Re: LyX 1.6.2 crashed

[Nikos Alexandris]

Steve Litt wrote:

   I opened one of my docs in LyX, clicked document on the menu, and lyx
   terminated...
  ...
   LyX Version 1.6.2
  ...

Nikos Alexandris wrote:

  If you have no strong reasons to stick with 1.6.2 you could try out 1.6.3.


Steve Litt wrote:

 Is there a way I could, using Ubuntu's package manager, 
 upgrade to 1.6.3 or better? I just want to avoid having to compile -- so far 
 every single thing but djbdns, VimOutliner and UMENU were installed via the 
 package manager, and I'd like to keep it that pure if possible.

Steve,

no need to compile here ;-). .deb packages are compiled stuff for
debian-based linux distris.

Especially the getdeb site [*] is dedicated to bring faster
ready-to-use packages for Ubuntu-Linux (because usually it takes some
time before new versions of applications land on the official
repositories -- that also means that those packages are not tested).

So, all you have to do to get LyX 1.6.3 for Ubuntu Jaunty 64-bit is a
few clicks to download the .deb's [1][2], give your password and click
Install each time. Most of it is self-explainable :-).

If you find that the .deb you have installed isn't doing what it
should do, you can always remove it the normal way, that is using the
package manager Synaptic - gui or from the command line.

All the best, Nikos
---

[*] http://www.getdeb.net

for Ubuntu Jaunty 64-bit:
[1] http://www.getdeb.net/download/4584/1
[2] http://www.getdeb.net/download/4584/0

If you have another version of Ubuntu, then click at
http://www.getdeb.net/distro_select.php and select accordingly. Probably
there is a .deb package for all Ubuntu versions.

\rm in formula

[Patrick Dupre]

Hello,

With version 1.6.3 it is easy to see what does lyx, so I would like to
mention this problem.
In math mode (CTRL M), I can type \rm and then CH, but I want a subscript,
I need to leave the rm mode while latex like: $\rm CH_3$ or $\rm CH_{3}$
Using lyx, I did not find any way to enter the same. lyx forces:
${\rm CH}_{3}$.
Is their any way to by pass this problem ?

Thank.

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logical markup and noweb articles

[Sam Liddicott]

The logical markup module's code markup:
   \code{code here}

works fine, unless a noweb article is selected, in which case the
typewriter font runs through to the rest of the document. The other
logical markup types seem to work fine.

Any clues for me? (Lyx 1.6.2)

Sam

Re: \rm in formula

[Matthias Bechmann]

Patrick Dupre pd...@... writes:



 lyx forces:
 ${\rm CH}_{3}$.
 Is their any way to by pass this problem ?

you can try using \mathrm instead of \rm


matthias

Re: logical markup and noweb articles

[Sam Liddicott]

* Sam Liddicott wrote, On 24/07/09 11:13:
 The logical markup module's code markup:
\code{code here}
 
 works fine, unless a noweb article is selected, in which case the
 typewriter font runs through to the rest of the document. The other
 logical markup types seem to work fine.
 
 Any clues for me? (Lyx 1.6.2)


I found that it is because noweb.sty also defines a \code

I'll try and combine some variant of:
\newcommand{\ncode}{\code}
before the noweb declarations start

Sam

Re: logical markup and noweb articles

[Sam Liddicott]

* Sam Liddicott wrote, On 24/07/09 11:13:
 The logical markup module's code markup:
\code{code here}
 
 works fine, unless a noweb article is selected, in which case the
 typewriter font runs through to the rest of the document. The other
 logical markup types seem to work fine.
 


As far as I can tell, noweb.sty doesn't actually use it's \code and
\edoc commands directly, and as noweb/lyx doesn't either, I just added
this line to my documents Latex preamble:

\renewcommand{\code}[1]{\texttt{#1}}

Sam

turkish language error

[Taner Mutlu]

I get compilation error when the following two configurations are done at the 
same time;

1)Change language from document-settings to turkish
2)The ouput size(scale, width and/or height) of a graphic is altered anyhow.

The error scheen is as follows:

Package babel Error: You haven't loaded the option english yet.
Package babel Error: You haven't loaded the option english yet.
Package babel Error: You haven't loaded the option english yet.
Missing \endcsname inserted.
Missing number, treated as zero.
Illegal unit of measure (pt inserted).
Extra \endcsname.
Missing \endcsname inserted.
Missing \endcsname inserted.
Missing number, treated as zero.
Illegal unit of measure (pt inserted).
Extra \endcsname.
Missing \endcsname inserted.

How can I avoid this error...




Taner Mutlu
İstanbul Teknik Üniversitesi
Uçak Uzay Bilimleri Fakültesi
ROTAM Merkezi
Maslak/İstanbul

Tel : 0212 2857189 - 115

Re: turkish language error

[Liviu Andronic]

Hello,
Please let us know your version of LyX and your OS.
Liviu

2009/7/23 Taner Mutlu tanermu...@rotam.itu.edu.tr:

 I get compilation error when the following two configurations are done at the 
 same time;

 1)Change language from document-settings to turkish
 2)The ouput size(scale, width and/or height) of a graphic is altered anyhow.

 The error scheen is as follows:

 Package babel Error: You haven't loaded the option english yet.
 Package babel Error: You haven't loaded the option english yet.
 Package babel Error: You haven't loaded the option english yet.
 Missing \endcsname inserted.
 Missing number, treated as zero.
 Illegal unit of measure (pt inserted).
 Extra \endcsname.
 Missing \endcsname inserted.
 Missing \endcsname inserted.
 Missing number, treated as zero.
 Illegal unit of measure (pt inserted).
 Extra \endcsname.
 Missing \endcsname inserted.

 How can I avoid this error...




 Taner Mutlu
 İstanbul Teknik Üniversitesi
 Uçak Uzay Bilimleri Fakültesi
 ROTAM Merkezi
 Maslak/İstanbul

 Tel : 0212 2857189 - 115







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noweb chunk cross references in lyx

[Sam Liddicott]

I can use an ERT: \nextchunklabel{save-handle}
to define a label for a code chunk, and then refer to this from another
part of the document with ERT: \subpageref{save-handle}

Does/Can lyx support this more natively to avoid the ERT, but allow a
new label type beginning with nw: ?

Sam

Creating pdf or dvi file

[Conor Quigley]

Hello,
I am a new user to LyX and I sometimes have trouble updating and viewing either 
the dvi or the pdf file.
It works fine up to a point, and then for no apparent reason it will not update 
the dvi/pdf. This is happening when I am putting in my Biblography.
Has anybody come across this before or give a possible reason for this?

Conor.

Re: Creating pdf or dvi file

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Friday 24 July 2009 15:14:02 schrieb Conor Quigley:
 Hello,
 I am a new user to LyX and I sometimes have trouble updating and viewing
 either the dvi or the pdf file.
 It works fine up to a point, and then for no apparent reason it will not
 update the dvi/pdf. This is happening when I am putting in my Biblography.
 Has anybody come across this before or give a possible reason for this?

 Conor.

in my experience (pdf files) it indicates an error in a particular reference 
(e.g. wrong coding). If you remove the Bibtex produced literature list at the 
end of your document and run pdf without it, and it works, it is probably 
what I suggested. 
You can check the Latex protocoll under documents or start your lyx from a 
terminal: That tells you which reference might have caused the trouble.

Wolfgang

LyX overwrite

[Ed]

Is there a way to get LyX to default to overwrite files when exporting rather
than throw up a dialog box that can get lost under other windows?

I looked a bit but never found that option.

Thanks!

strange bug: two tabs opened when starting LyX

[Erez Yerushalmi]

Dear All,

I'm using LyX 1.6.3-1 with windows.

In the last week I get this funny bug.

Every time I start LyX, two tabs are opened.
*Tab 1* doesn't do anything when you press it. Its name is LyX 1.6.3-1.
*Tab 2 *is the LyX program tab. Its name is first file I'm working on at the
moment.

I know this is a silly and non disturbing bug, but can anyone tell me why
this happens??
How do I report it??

Thanks, Erez



-- 
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PhD Student
Warwick University, UK
homepage: http://go.warwick.ac.uk/ep/pg/ecrfaw

Trouble with lyx ftp site

[Anton Driesse]

Hi,

The site ftp.lyx.org doesn't seem to be responding to my home computers. 
  All I get is the response connected to durga.via.ecp.fr and then 
nothing happens.  I can ftp to other sites.  I have also downloaded lyx 
using my work computer, and managed to install it at home, but when the 
installer tries to get the spell checkers using ftp, it hangs also.


Any ideas why this might be?

Thanks!

Anton

RE: strange bug: two tabs opened when starting LyX

[Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW]

 
Every time I start LyX, two tabs are opened.
*Tab 1* doesn't do anything when you press it. Its name
is LyX 1.6.3-1.
*Tab 2 *is the LyX program tab. Its name is first file
I'm working on at the moment.

What's the contents of your session file ? And especially, what entries
are there in the [last opened files] section ?

Maybe the problem is solved by deleting this session file.

Vincent

Re: strange bug: two tabs opened when starting LyX

[Erez Yerushalmi]

Hi Vincent

Thanks, but I don't really get what to do.

What do you mean by contents of your session file   ??

Even when I start LyX without opening a file, two Tabs are automatically
generated.
One with LyX 1.6.3-1 , and the other with just LyX.

In the file open recent, I can see the last opened files.
Is there a way to clear the last opened files??

Thanks again, Erez



On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW 
v.f.vanraveste...@tudelft.nl wrote:


 Every time I start LyX, two tabs are opened.
 *Tab 1* doesn't do anything when you press it. Its name
 is LyX 1.6.3-1.
 *Tab 2 *is the LyX program tab. Its name is first file
 I'm working on at the moment.

 What's the contents of your session file ? And especially, what entries
 are there in the [last opened files] section ?

 Maybe the problem is solved by deleting this session file.

 Vincent




-- 
Erez Yerushalmi
PhD Student
Warwick University, UK
homepage: http://go.warwick.ac.uk/ep/pg/ecrfaw

Re: strange bug: two tabs opened when starting LyX

[Erez Yerushalmi]

Problem solved. Very simple.* Thanks Vincent!*

Here is a summary for others in the future:

I went to Preferences  Look Feel  User Interface
then pressed clear all sessions information

Thanks, Erez



On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW 
v.f.vanraveste...@tudelft.nl wrote:


 Every time I start LyX, two tabs are opened.
 *Tab 1* doesn't do anything when you press it. Its name
 is LyX 1.6.3-1.
 *Tab 2 *is the LyX program tab. Its name is first file
 I'm working on at the moment.

 What's the contents of your session file ? And especially, what entries
 are there in the [last opened files] section ?

 Maybe the problem is solved by deleting this session file.

 Vincent




-- 
Erez Yerushalmi
PhD Student
Warwick University, UK
homepage: http://go.warwick.ac.uk/ep/pg/ecrfaw

how to install LyX in Windows?

[M . Kocinski]

It was rather surprise for me that installing LyX in Linux seems to be
much more complecated than in Windows. In fact, I have no experience in
Linux...
Why there is hard to find install. exe file for LyX at lyx.org?
Is it true taht that words Major Linux distributions take care of LyX
binaries themselves and you will find LyX in their repositories. mean
when I buy a new notebok with Linux installed then there will also LyX
there?

Thanks in advance for the answer!

how to install LyX in Linux?

[M . Kocinski]

It was rather surprise for me that installing LyX in Linux seems to be
much more complecated than in Windows. In fact, I have no experience in
Linux...
Why there is hard to find install. exe file for LyX at lyx.org?
Is it true taht that words Major Linux distributions take care of LyX
binaries themselves and you will find LyX in their repositories. mean
when I buy a new notebok with Linux installed then there will also LyX
there?

Thanks in advance for the answer!

Re: how to install LyX in Linux?

[Rich Shepard]

On Fri, 24 Jul 2009, m.kocin...@mini.pw.edu.pl wrote:


It was rather surprise for me that installing LyX in Linux seems to be
much more complecated than in Windows. In fact, I have no experience in
Linux... Why there is hard to find install. exe file for LyX at lyx.org?


  Because it's not needed. Copy the executable to /usr/bin or
/usr/local/bin, change the permissions to 555 and you're good to go.


Is it true taht that words Major Linux distributions take care of LyX
binaries themselves and you will find LyX in their repositories. mean
when I buy a new notebok with Linux installed then there will also LyX
there?


  No. But, most distributions now have their own package management systems.
For Red Hat and its derivatives they are the .rpm files with YUM (or
something else) as the manager; for Debian and its derivatives they are the
.deb files and apt as the manager; for Slackware and its derivatives they
are .tgz files and slaptget (which I don't use anyway).

  In linux _you_ control your system. So, you place files where you want
them to be located (sticking with the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard is
always a good idea), turn on the executable flag in the permissions and
use. It's a completely different world from Microsoft.

Rich

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Re: LyX 1.6.2 crashed

[Steve Litt]

On Friday 24 July 2009 04:14:50 Nikos Alexandris wrote:
 Steve Litt wrote:
I opened one of my docs in LyX, clicked document on the menu, and
lyx terminated...
  
   ...
  
LyX Version 1.6.2
  
   ...

 Nikos Alexandris wrote:
   If you have no strong reasons to stick with 1.6.2 you could try out
   1.6.3.

 Steve Litt wrote:
  Is there a way I could, using Ubuntu's package manager,
  upgrade to 1.6.3 or better? I just want to avoid having to compile -- so
  far every single thing but djbdns, VimOutliner and UMENU were installed
  via the package manager, and I'd like to keep it that pure if possible.

 Steve,

 no need to compile here ;-). .deb packages are compiled stuff for
 debian-based linux distris.

 Especially the getdeb site [*] is dedicated to bring faster
 ready-to-use packages for Ubuntu-Linux (because usually it takes some
 time before new versions of applications land on the official
 repositories -- that also means that those packages are not tested).

 So, all you have to do to get LyX 1.6.3 for Ubuntu Jaunty 64-bit is a
 few clicks to download the .deb's [1][2], give your password and click
 Install each time. Most of it is self-explainable :-).

 If you find that the .deb you have installed isn't doing what it
 should do, you can always remove it the normal way, that is using the
 package manager Synaptic - gui or from the command line.

 All the best, Nikos

OK, I've downloaded these two, for 32 bit Jaunty, which I think is what I 
have. I know I have 32 bit, and I know I have 9.0.4. Here's what I downloaded:

* lyx_1.6.3-1~getdeb1_i386.deb  
* lyx-common_1.6.3-1~getdeb1_all.deb

I've never used Ubuntu before, and my last use of Debian was last century, so 
I'm as raw a newbie as you can imagine. So my question is, now that I have 
these two packages on my local hard drive, exactly what commands do I use to 
upgrade or install or whatever, and if I don't like it, exactly what do I do 
to back it out to the current LyX I have now?

Thanks for your patience. I'd rather ask dumb questions than make horrible 
mistakes :-)

SteveT

Re: how to install LyX in Linux?

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 1:23 AM, m.kocin...@mini.pw.edu.pl wrote:
 It was rather surprise for me that installing LyX in Linux seems to be
 much more complecated than in Windows. In fact, I have no experience in
 Linux...
 Why there is hard to find install. exe file for LyX at lyx.org?

In Linux it is traditional to install software via your package
manager rather than via dodgy third party websites (like lyx.org :P).
This is in part to avoid viruses, and in part to avoid DLL hell (or
so hell as it would be more accurately described for Linux operating
systems). Personally I also find it more convenient, as I once set my
mirror to be my ISP (System-Administration-Software Sources in
Ubuntu), and then all the software I install comes from my FreeZone
(and not from my 4GB cap). This is especially handy since the LaTeX
install alone is quite big.

In Ubuntu Linux you go Applications-Add/Remove, type in lyx, click
the check box besides lyx, and press Apply Changes.

Other operating systems built on top of Linux, such as Fedora Core,
have similar ways of adding software.

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: LyX 1.6.2 crashed

[Paul A. Rubin]

Steve Litt wrote:



OK, I've downloaded these two, for 32 bit Jaunty, which I think is what I 
have. I know I have 32 bit, and I know I have 9.0.4.


9.04 is indeed Jaunty Jackelope.


Here's what I downloaded:

* lyx_1.6.3-1~getdeb1_i386.deb  
* lyx-common_1.6.3-1~getdeb1_all.deb


I've never used Ubuntu before, and my last use of Debian was last century, so 
I'm as raw a newbie as you can imagine. So my question is, now that I have 
these two packages on my local hard drive, exactly what commands do I use to 
upgrade or install or whatever, and if I don't like it, exactly what do I do 
to back it out to the current LyX I have now?




If you right-click each of the .deb files, the first option in the 
context menu should be 'Open with GDebi Package Installer'.  Once the 
window pops up, you want to click 'Install Package'.  There's a catch: 
you need to install the 'common' package first (the installer won't 
install LyX itself until that dependency is met), but if you have 1.6.2 
installed, the installer won't install the 1.6.3 common package because 
it will break the dependency of LyX 1.6.2 on the 1.6.2 common package.


So (assuming 1.6.2 or earlier is installed), start by going to System  
Administration  Synaptic Package Manager, search on 'lyx' (you may want 
to filter just installed packages on the left), select 'lyx-common', 
click on the box at the left and select 'Mark for Removal' (not 'Mark 
for Complete Removal', which I think would also nuke your local .lyx 
directory with any settings changes, local layouts etc. -- although I'm 
not 100% positive about that, being too chicken to try).  It should be 
ok to leave the latex-xft-fonts package alone.  Then click 'Apply' (on 
the menu bar and again in the dialog) and let the package manager 
uninstall LyX.  Close anything that can't outrun you when it's done. 
Then right-click the 'common' package and click install.  You'll get a 
warning that an older version (which you just uninstalled) is available 
in the official channel.  Ignore it and forge ahead.  When the 'install' 
button changes to 'reinstall', you're done with that package; kill the 
dialog and repeat with the other package.  Applications  Office  LyX 
should start the new version.


/Paul

Re: LyX 1.6.2 crashed

[Steve Litt]

On Friday 24 July 2009 14:29:34 Paul A. Rubin wrote:
 Steve Litt wrote:
  OK, I've downloaded these two, for 32 bit Jaunty, which I think is what I
  have. I know I have 32 bit, and I know I have 9.0.4.

 9.04 is indeed Jaunty Jackelope.

  Here's what I downloaded:
 
  * lyx_1.6.3-1~getdeb1_i386.deb
  * lyx-common_1.6.3-1~getdeb1_all.deb
 
  I've never used Ubuntu before, and my last use of Debian was last
  century, so I'm as raw a newbie as you can imagine. So my question is,
  now that I have these two packages on my local hard drive, exactly what
  commands do I use to upgrade or install or whatever, and if I don't like
  it, exactly what do I do to back it out to the current LyX I have now?

 If you right-click each of the .deb files, the first option in the
 context menu should be 'Open with GDebi Package Installer'.  Once the
 window pops up, you want to click 'Install Package'.  There's a catch:
 you need to install the 'common' package first (the installer won't
 install LyX itself until that dependency is met), but if you have 1.6.2
 installed, the installer won't install the 1.6.3 common package because   
 it will break the dependency of LyX 1.6.2 on the 1.6.2 common package.

 So (assuming 1.6.2 or earlier is installed), start by going to System 
 Administration  Synaptic Package Manager, search on 'lyx' (you may want
 to filter just installed packages on the left), select 'lyx-common',
 click on the box at the left and select 'Mark for Removal' (not 'Mark
 for Complete Removal', which I think would also nuke your local .lyx
 directory with any settings changes, local layouts etc. -- although I'm
 not 100% positive about that, being too chicken to try).  It should be
 ok to leave the latex-xft-fonts package alone.  Then click 'Apply' (on
 the menu bar and again in the dialog) and let the package manager
 uninstall LyX.  Close anything that can't outrun you when it's done.
 Then right-click the 'common' package and click install.  You'll get a
 warning that an older version (which you just uninstalled) is available
 in the official channel.  Ignore it and forge ahead.  When the 'install'
 button changes to 'reinstall', you're done with that package; kill the
 dialog and repeat with the other package.  Applications  Office  LyX
 should start the new version.

 /Paul

* *
\ o /
 \|/ 
  |   C O O L
 / \  _  
/   \/
   /
  -

Thanks Paul Your instructions worked perfectly, and 1.6.3 is stable enough 
to keep LyX up the whole time I tested it (15 minutes), so I assume it's 
stable for hours or days.

By the way, I wasn't sure what you meant by Close anything that can't outrun 
you when it's done so I ignored that part.

Thanks again.

SteveT

Re: LyX 1.6.2 crashed

[Steve Litt]

On Friday 24 July 2009 04:14:50 you wrote:
 Steve Litt wrote:
I opened one of my docs in LyX, clicked document on the menu, and
lyx terminated...
  
   ...
  
LyX Version 1.6.2
  
   ...

 Nikos Alexandris wrote:
   If you have no strong reasons to stick with 1.6.2 you could try out
   1.6.3.

 Steve Litt wrote:
  Is there a way I could, using Ubuntu's package manager,
  upgrade to 1.6.3 or better? I just want to avoid having to compile -- so
  far every single thing but djbdns, VimOutliner and UMENU were installed
  via the package manager, and I'd like to keep it that pure if possible.

 Steve,

 no need to compile here ;-). .deb packages are compiled stuff for
 debian-based linux distris.

Thanks so much Nikos!!

I did what you said, and now have a very stable 1.6.3. You helped me out 
immensely.

SteveT

Re: how to install LyX in Windows?

[Witold (grizz) Firlej]

On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 19:19, m.kocin...@mini.pw.edu.pl wrote:
 It was rather surprise for me that installing LyX in Linux seems to be
 much more complecated than in Windows. In fact, I have no experience in
 Linux...

for example in PLD Linux

ipoldek install lyx

DONE ;)





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Re: LyX 1.6.2 crashed

[Nikos Alexandris]

On Fri, 2009-07-24 at 15:25 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
...
 I did what you said, and now have a very stable 1.6.3. You helped me out 
 immensely.

So, it works! Great :-)

I promise I'll never use Memoir again!

[Steve Litt]

Hi all,

Memoir.

Slowly I turn, step by step, inch by inch.

Memoir. Never again!

As you know I switched to Ubuntu and of course things are different. But for 
the most part, my books whose document classes were based on book fired up 
just fine once I fixed the layout location (and of course once I got a LyX that 
stayed running more than 20 seconds :-)

But Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting is built with a document class 
based on Memoir, and it's nothing but trouble. First I had to get Memoir from 
the web because the Ubuntu one didn't seem to work. Now I need memhfixc or my 
book gets the zero output error.

The memhfixc and memoir documentations say memhfixc is included in memoir, but 
I 
sure couldn't find it. Yeah, I finally realized I had to run latex  
mempatch.ins, but it all took time and it was all a hassle. I had to take 
apart the book til I got a small file to reproduce the problem, narrowed it 
down to memhfixc, and then had to figure out how to fix it. For all I know, 
there 
will be yet other problems when I put back the original layout file and the 
original document.

Worse, this isn't the first time. Every time I lay down a new OS, my memoir 
derived book fails. All my book derived books work marvelously. If I get time, 
I'm going to rework Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting to use a book 
derived document class.

I'm not saying Memoir doesn't have its place. The person who uses Memoir for 
every book and is intimately familiar with its idiocyncracies will have little 
trouble with it. But that's not me.

One thing's for sure -- I'll never use Memoir for a new book again.

SteveT

Re: I promise I'll never use Memoir again!

[Rich Shepard]

On Fri, 24 Jul 2009, Steve Litt wrote:


Worse, this isn't the first time. Every time I lay down a new OS, my
memoir derived book fails.


Steve,

  Perhaps this is a clue to stick with a single distribution. :-)


I'm not saying Memoir doesn't have its place. The person who uses Memoir
for every book and is intimately familiar with its idiocyncracies will
have little trouble with it. But that's not me.


  I tried the Memoir class a couple of times but it did not work as
expected. So now I stick with the KOMA-Script book class and it's easy to do
the few tweaks I want.


One thing's for sure -- I'll never use Memoir for a new book again.


  I have been told by Those Who Know that it's common for a new version of
Microsoft Word to refuse to open a document created with an earlier version.
And people still pay money for this! Imagine what fun will occur in another
decade with legal documents in Word-3, -4, -5, or -6 format if they cannot
be opened in whatever version is sold by then. Whew!

  Now and then I find old documents prepared by OpenOffice.org-1.0.0 (or
earlier) and all of them open without any problems in the current -3.0.0.

  Try KOMA-Script. Works well and the documentation is thorough and well
written (in LaTeX, of course).

Rich

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Re: I promise I'll never use Memoir again!

[Steve Litt]

On Friday 24 July 2009 19:08:43 Rich Shepard wrote:
 On Fri, 24 Jul 2009, Steve Litt wrote:
  Worse, this isn't the first time. Every time I lay down a new OS, my
  memoir derived book fails.

 Steve,

Perhaps this is a clue to stick with a single distribution. :-)

  I'm not saying Memoir doesn't have its place. The person who uses Memoir
  for every book and is intimately familiar with its idiocyncracies will
  have little trouble with it. But that's not me.

I tried the Memoir class a couple of times but it did not work as
 expected. So now I stick with the KOMA-Script book class and it's easy to
 do the few tweaks I want.

  One thing's for sure -- I'll never use Memoir for a new book again.

I have been told by Those Who Know that it's common for a new version of
 Microsoft Word to refuse to open a document created with an earlier
 version. And people still pay money for this! Imagine what fun will occur
 in another decade with legal documents in Word-3, -4, -5, or -6 format if
 they cannot be opened in whatever version is sold by then. Whew!

Now and then I find old documents prepared by OpenOffice.org-1.0.0 (or
 earlier) and all of them open without any problems in the current -3.0.0.

Try KOMA-Script. Works well and the documentation is thorough and well
 written (in LaTeX, of course).

 Rich

If I'm not mistaken, the doc class for Troubleshooting Techniques of the 
Successful Technologist was derived from Koma. I'll keep you informed :-)

SteveT

Re: I promise I'll never use Memoir again!

[Paul A. Rubin]

Steve Litt wrote:



But Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting is built with a document class 
based on Memoir, and it's nothing but trouble. First I had to get Memoir from 
the web because the Ubuntu one didn't seem to work. Now I need memhfixc or my 
book gets the zero output error.


The memhfixc and memoir documentations say memhfixc is included in memoir, but I 
sure couldn't find it. Yeah, I finally realized I had to run latex  
mempatch.ins, but it all took time and it was all a hassle. I had to take 
apart the book til I got a small file to reproduce the problem, narrowed it 
down to memhfixc, and then had to figure out how to fix it. For all I know, there 
will be yet other problems when I put back the original layout file and the 
original document.




The 2008 version of TeXLive (which seems to be the preferred LaTeX 
distro on Ubuntu) supposedly has a package manager (tlmgr) which might 
take care of some of the package installation hassles.  Unfortunately, 
the official repositories for Ubuntu have a somewhat conservative 
adoption rate for new packages (including updates), so the official 
release is still TeXLive 2007, with no package manager.


So you might want to manually install the 2008 version. Alternatively 
(and this is what I use at the moment), MiKTeX's excellent package 
manager has been ported to Linux.  It lacks the GUI of the Windows 
version, but the command line syntax is not all that complicated, and it 
Just Works.  I'm not positive whether using it to install memoir would 
get mempatch properly installed, but in general there seems to be no 
manual futzing required once it installs a package.


HTH,
Paul

Re: I promise I'll never use Memoir again!

[Rich Shepard]

On Fri, 24 Jul 2009, Steve Litt wrote:


If I'm not mistaken, the doc class for Troubleshooting Techniques of the
Successful Technologist was derived from Koma. I'll keep you informed :-)


SteveT,

  Whatever floats your boat is OK with me. It's your issue, so do whatever
feels good.

Rich

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Re: how to install LyX in Windows?

[Richard Heck]

On 07/24/2009 01:19 PM, m.kocin...@mini.pw.edu.pl wrote:

It was rather surprise for me that installing LyX in Linux seems to be
much more complecated than in Windows. In fact, I have no experience in
Linux...

   
It's actually a whole lot simpler to install software in Linux than in 
Windows.



Why there is hard to find install. exe file for LyX at lyx.org?
Is it true that that words Major Linux distributions take care of LyX
binaries themselves and you will find LyX in their repositories. mean
when I buy a new notebok with Linux installed then there will also LyX
there?

   
Possibly it will be installed by default, but if not, it will normally 
be very easy to install it. How fast it will be will depend upon the 
speed of your internet connection, but of course that's the same as with 
any software you download.


Linux distros generally maintain a software repository of some sort 
and provide some way of installing software from this repository (and, 
more generally, of managing your installed software). Different distros 
have different ways of doing this. But most provide both some sort of 
GUI interface that allows you to browse, search, etc, the available 
software, and then install it. The GUI is built on top of some lower 
level library, or on top of command line tools.


So, on Fedora, it can be as easy as typing this:
yum install lyx
in a terminal window. That will install LyX and everything LyX needs to 
work properly. No manual downloads of installation files required. If 
you decide you want to remove lyx, you type:

yum remove lyx
and it's gone.

By the way: No need to reboot when you do this kind of thing. Once it's 
installed, it's ready to go.


Even better: When a new version of LyX comes out (say, 1.6.4, in not 
very long), it will be added fairly quickly to the Fedora repositories 
and then will be updated, along with everything else, when the system is 
updated---which, of course, it is just as easy to do:

 yum update
Or you can use the gui, if you prefer.

And, of course, it's not just LyX that is so easy to install and update. 
It's everything.


I've talked about Fedora, because that's my distro. But Ubuntu, Debian, 
Suse, whatever, all have similar tools.


Score one for Linux

Richard

Re: LyX 1.6.2 crashed

[Nikos Alexandris]

Steve Litt wrote:

   I opened one of my docs in LyX, clicked document on the menu, and lyx
   terminated...
  ...
   LyX Version 1.6.2
  ...

Nikos Alexandris wrote:

  If you have no strong reasons to stick with 1.6.2 you could try out 1.6.3.


Steve Litt wrote:

 Is there a way I could, using Ubuntu's package manager, 
 upgrade to 1.6.3 or better? I just want to avoid having to compile -- so far 
 every single thing but djbdns, VimOutliner and UMENU were installed via the 
 package manager, and I'd like to keep it that pure if possible.

Steve,

no need to compile here ;-). .deb packages are compiled stuff for
debian-based linux distris.

Especially the getdeb site [*] is dedicated to bring faster
ready-to-use packages for Ubuntu-Linux (because usually it takes some
time before new versions of applications land on the official
repositories -- that also means that those packages are not tested).

So, all you have to do to get LyX 1.6.3 for Ubuntu Jaunty 64-bit is a
few clicks to download the .deb's [1][2], give your password and click
Install each time. Most of it is self-explainable :-).

If you find that the .deb you have installed isn't doing what it
should do, you can always remove it the normal way, that is using the
package manager Synaptic - gui or from the command line.

All the best, Nikos
---

[*] http://www.getdeb.net

for Ubuntu Jaunty 64-bit:
[1] http://www.getdeb.net/download/4584/1
[2] http://www.getdeb.net/download/4584/0

If you have another version of Ubuntu, then click at
http://www.getdeb.net/distro_select.php and select accordingly. Probably
there is a .deb package for all Ubuntu versions.

\rm in formula

[Patrick Dupre]

Hello,

With version 1.6.3 it is easy to see what does lyx, so I would like to
mention this problem.
In math mode (CTRL M), I can type \rm and then CH, but I want a subscript,
I need to leave the rm mode while latex like: $\rm CH_3$ or $\rm CH_{3}$
Using lyx, I did not find any way to enter the same. lyx forces:
${\rm CH}_{3}$.
Is their any way to by pass this problem ?

Thank.

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logical markup and noweb articles

[Sam Liddicott]

The logical markup module's code markup:
   \code{code here}

works fine, unless a noweb article is selected, in which case the
typewriter font runs through to the rest of the document. The other
logical markup types seem to work fine.

Any clues for me? (Lyx 1.6.2)

Sam

Re: \rm in formula

[Matthias Bechmann]

Patrick Dupre pd...@... writes:



 lyx forces:
 ${\rm CH}_{3}$.
 Is their any way to by pass this problem ?

you can try using \mathrm instead of \rm


matthias

Re: logical markup and noweb articles

[Sam Liddicott]

* Sam Liddicott wrote, On 24/07/09 11:13:
 The logical markup module's code markup:
\code{code here}
 
 works fine, unless a noweb article is selected, in which case the
 typewriter font runs through to the rest of the document. The other
 logical markup types seem to work fine.
 
 Any clues for me? (Lyx 1.6.2)


I found that it is because noweb.sty also defines a \code

I'll try and combine some variant of:
\newcommand{\ncode}{\code}
before the noweb declarations start

Sam

Re: logical markup and noweb articles

[Sam Liddicott]

* Sam Liddicott wrote, On 24/07/09 11:13:
 The logical markup module's code markup:
\code{code here}
 
 works fine, unless a noweb article is selected, in which case the
 typewriter font runs through to the rest of the document. The other
 logical markup types seem to work fine.
 


As far as I can tell, noweb.sty doesn't actually use it's \code and
\edoc commands directly, and as noweb/lyx doesn't either, I just added
this line to my documents Latex preamble:

\renewcommand{\code}[1]{\texttt{#1}}

Sam

turkish language error

[Taner Mutlu]

I get compilation error when the following two configurations are done at the 
same time;

1)Change language from document-settings to turkish
2)The ouput size(scale, width and/or height) of a graphic is altered anyhow.

The error scheen is as follows:

Package babel Error: You haven't loaded the option english yet.
Package babel Error: You haven't loaded the option english yet.
Package babel Error: You haven't loaded the option english yet.
Missing \endcsname inserted.
Missing number, treated as zero.
Illegal unit of measure (pt inserted).
Extra \endcsname.
Missing \endcsname inserted.
Missing \endcsname inserted.
Missing number, treated as zero.
Illegal unit of measure (pt inserted).
Extra \endcsname.
Missing \endcsname inserted.

How can I avoid this error...




Taner Mutlu
İstanbul Teknik Üniversitesi
Uçak Uzay Bilimleri Fakültesi
ROTAM Merkezi
Maslak/İstanbul

Tel : 0212 2857189 - 115

Re: turkish language error

[Liviu Andronic]

Hello,
Please let us know your version of LyX and your OS.
Liviu

2009/7/23 Taner Mutlu tanermu...@rotam.itu.edu.tr:

 I get compilation error when the following two configurations are done at the 
 same time;

 1)Change language from document-settings to turkish
 2)The ouput size(scale, width and/or height) of a graphic is altered anyhow.

 The error scheen is as follows:

 Package babel Error: You haven't loaded the option english yet.
 Package babel Error: You haven't loaded the option english yet.
 Package babel Error: You haven't loaded the option english yet.
 Missing \endcsname inserted.
 Missing number, treated as zero.
 Illegal unit of measure (pt inserted).
 Extra \endcsname.
 Missing \endcsname inserted.
 Missing \endcsname inserted.
 Missing number, treated as zero.
 Illegal unit of measure (pt inserted).
 Extra \endcsname.
 Missing \endcsname inserted.

 How can I avoid this error...




 Taner Mutlu
 İstanbul Teknik Üniversitesi
 Uçak Uzay Bilimleri Fakültesi
 ROTAM Merkezi
 Maslak/İstanbul

 Tel : 0212 2857189 - 115







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noweb chunk cross references in lyx

[Sam Liddicott]

I can use an ERT: \nextchunklabel{save-handle}
to define a label for a code chunk, and then refer to this from another
part of the document with ERT: \subpageref{save-handle}

Does/Can lyx support this more natively to avoid the ERT, but allow a
new label type beginning with nw: ?

Sam

Creating pdf or dvi file

[Conor Quigley]

Hello,
I am a new user to LyX and I sometimes have trouble updating and viewing either 
the dvi or the pdf file.
It works fine up to a point, and then for no apparent reason it will not update 
the dvi/pdf. This is happening when I am putting in my Biblography.
Has anybody come across this before or give a possible reason for this?

Conor.

Re: Creating pdf or dvi file

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Friday 24 July 2009 15:14:02 schrieb Conor Quigley:
 Hello,
 I am a new user to LyX and I sometimes have trouble updating and viewing
 either the dvi or the pdf file.
 It works fine up to a point, and then for no apparent reason it will not
 update the dvi/pdf. This is happening when I am putting in my Biblography.
 Has anybody come across this before or give a possible reason for this?

 Conor.

in my experience (pdf files) it indicates an error in a particular reference 
(e.g. wrong coding). If you remove the Bibtex produced literature list at the 
end of your document and run pdf without it, and it works, it is probably 
what I suggested. 
You can check the Latex protocoll under documents or start your lyx from a 
terminal: That tells you which reference might have caused the trouble.

Wolfgang

LyX overwrite

[Ed]

Is there a way to get LyX to default to overwrite files when exporting rather
than throw up a dialog box that can get lost under other windows?

I looked a bit but never found that option.

Thanks!

strange bug: two tabs opened when starting LyX

[Erez Yerushalmi]

Dear All,

I'm using LyX 1.6.3-1 with windows.

In the last week I get this funny bug.

Every time I start LyX, two tabs are opened.
*Tab 1* doesn't do anything when you press it. Its name is LyX 1.6.3-1.
*Tab 2 *is the LyX program tab. Its name is first file I'm working on at the
moment.

I know this is a silly and non disturbing bug, but can anyone tell me why
this happens??
How do I report it??

Thanks, Erez



-- 
Erez Yerushalmi
PhD Student
Warwick University, UK
homepage: http://go.warwick.ac.uk/ep/pg/ecrfaw

Trouble with lyx ftp site

[Anton Driesse]

Hi,

The site ftp.lyx.org doesn't seem to be responding to my home computers. 
  All I get is the response connected to durga.via.ecp.fr and then 
nothing happens.  I can ftp to other sites.  I have also downloaded lyx 
using my work computer, and managed to install it at home, but when the 
installer tries to get the spell checkers using ftp, it hangs also.


Any ideas why this might be?

Thanks!

Anton

RE: strange bug: two tabs opened when starting LyX

[Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW]

 
Every time I start LyX, two tabs are opened.
*Tab 1* doesn't do anything when you press it. Its name
is LyX 1.6.3-1.
*Tab 2 *is the LyX program tab. Its name is first file
I'm working on at the moment.

What's the contents of your session file ? And especially, what entries
are there in the [last opened files] section ?

Maybe the problem is solved by deleting this session file.

Vincent

Re: strange bug: two tabs opened when starting LyX

[Erez Yerushalmi]

Hi Vincent

Thanks, but I don't really get what to do.

What do you mean by contents of your session file   ??

Even when I start LyX without opening a file, two Tabs are automatically
generated.
One with LyX 1.6.3-1 , and the other with just LyX.

In the file open recent, I can see the last opened files.
Is there a way to clear the last opened files??

Thanks again, Erez



On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW 
v.f.vanraveste...@tudelft.nl wrote:


 Every time I start LyX, two tabs are opened.
 *Tab 1* doesn't do anything when you press it. Its name
 is LyX 1.6.3-1.
 *Tab 2 *is the LyX program tab. Its name is first file
 I'm working on at the moment.

 What's the contents of your session file ? And especially, what entries
 are there in the [last opened files] section ?

 Maybe the problem is solved by deleting this session file.

 Vincent




-- 
Erez Yerushalmi
PhD Student
Warwick University, UK
homepage: http://go.warwick.ac.uk/ep/pg/ecrfaw

Re: strange bug: two tabs opened when starting LyX

[Erez Yerushalmi]

Problem solved. Very simple.* Thanks Vincent!*

Here is a summary for others in the future:

I went to Preferences  Look Feel  User Interface
then pressed clear all sessions information

Thanks, Erez



On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW 
v.f.vanraveste...@tudelft.nl wrote:


 Every time I start LyX, two tabs are opened.
 *Tab 1* doesn't do anything when you press it. Its name
 is LyX 1.6.3-1.
 *Tab 2 *is the LyX program tab. Its name is first file
 I'm working on at the moment.

 What's the contents of your session file ? And especially, what entries
 are there in the [last opened files] section ?

 Maybe the problem is solved by deleting this session file.

 Vincent




-- 
Erez Yerushalmi
PhD Student
Warwick University, UK
homepage: http://go.warwick.ac.uk/ep/pg/ecrfaw

how to install LyX in Windows?

[M . Kocinski]

It was rather surprise for me that installing LyX in Linux seems to be
much more complecated than in Windows. In fact, I have no experience in
Linux...
Why there is hard to find install. exe file for LyX at lyx.org?
Is it true taht that words Major Linux distributions take care of LyX
binaries themselves and you will find LyX in their repositories. mean
when I buy a new notebok with Linux installed then there will also LyX
there?

Thanks in advance for the answer!

how to install LyX in Linux?

[M . Kocinski]

It was rather surprise for me that installing LyX in Linux seems to be
much more complecated than in Windows. In fact, I have no experience in
Linux...
Why there is hard to find install. exe file for LyX at lyx.org?
Is it true taht that words Major Linux distributions take care of LyX
binaries themselves and you will find LyX in their repositories. mean
when I buy a new notebok with Linux installed then there will also LyX
there?

Thanks in advance for the answer!

Re: how to install LyX in Linux?

[Rich Shepard]

On Fri, 24 Jul 2009, m.kocin...@mini.pw.edu.pl wrote:


It was rather surprise for me that installing LyX in Linux seems to be
much more complecated than in Windows. In fact, I have no experience in
Linux... Why there is hard to find install. exe file for LyX at lyx.org?


  Because it's not needed. Copy the executable to /usr/bin or
/usr/local/bin, change the permissions to 555 and you're good to go.


Is it true taht that words Major Linux distributions take care of LyX
binaries themselves and you will find LyX in their repositories. mean
when I buy a new notebok with Linux installed then there will also LyX
there?


  No. But, most distributions now have their own package management systems.
For Red Hat and its derivatives they are the .rpm files with YUM (or
something else) as the manager; for Debian and its derivatives they are the
.deb files and apt as the manager; for Slackware and its derivatives they
are .tgz files and slaptget (which I don't use anyway).

  In linux _you_ control your system. So, you place files where you want
them to be located (sticking with the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard is
always a good idea), turn on the executable flag in the permissions and
use. It's a completely different world from Microsoft.

Rich

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Re: LyX 1.6.2 crashed

[Steve Litt]

On Friday 24 July 2009 04:14:50 Nikos Alexandris wrote:
 Steve Litt wrote:
I opened one of my docs in LyX, clicked document on the menu, and
lyx terminated...
  
   ...
  
LyX Version 1.6.2
  
   ...

 Nikos Alexandris wrote:
   If you have no strong reasons to stick with 1.6.2 you could try out
   1.6.3.

 Steve Litt wrote:
  Is there a way I could, using Ubuntu's package manager,
  upgrade to 1.6.3 or better? I just want to avoid having to compile -- so
  far every single thing but djbdns, VimOutliner and UMENU were installed
  via the package manager, and I'd like to keep it that pure if possible.

 Steve,

 no need to compile here ;-). .deb packages are compiled stuff for
 debian-based linux distris.

 Especially the getdeb site [*] is dedicated to bring faster
 ready-to-use packages for Ubuntu-Linux (because usually it takes some
 time before new versions of applications land on the official
 repositories -- that also means that those packages are not tested).

 So, all you have to do to get LyX 1.6.3 for Ubuntu Jaunty 64-bit is a
 few clicks to download the .deb's [1][2], give your password and click
 Install each time. Most of it is self-explainable :-).

 If you find that the .deb you have installed isn't doing what it
 should do, you can always remove it the normal way, that is using the
 package manager Synaptic - gui or from the command line.

 All the best, Nikos

OK, I've downloaded these two, for 32 bit Jaunty, which I think is what I 
have. I know I have 32 bit, and I know I have 9.0.4. Here's what I downloaded:

* lyx_1.6.3-1~getdeb1_i386.deb  
* lyx-common_1.6.3-1~getdeb1_all.deb

I've never used Ubuntu before, and my last use of Debian was last century, so 
I'm as raw a newbie as you can imagine. So my question is, now that I have 
these two packages on my local hard drive, exactly what commands do I use to 
upgrade or install or whatever, and if I don't like it, exactly what do I do 
to back it out to the current LyX I have now?

Thanks for your patience. I'd rather ask dumb questions than make horrible 
mistakes :-)

SteveT

Re: how to install LyX in Linux?

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 1:23 AM, m.kocin...@mini.pw.edu.pl wrote:
 It was rather surprise for me that installing LyX in Linux seems to be
 much more complecated than in Windows. In fact, I have no experience in
 Linux...
 Why there is hard to find install. exe file for LyX at lyx.org?

In Linux it is traditional to install software via your package
manager rather than via dodgy third party websites (like lyx.org :P).
This is in part to avoid viruses, and in part to avoid DLL hell (or
so hell as it would be more accurately described for Linux operating
systems). Personally I also find it more convenient, as I once set my
mirror to be my ISP (System-Administration-Software Sources in
Ubuntu), and then all the software I install comes from my FreeZone
(and not from my 4GB cap). This is especially handy since the LaTeX
install alone is quite big.

In Ubuntu Linux you go Applications-Add/Remove, type in lyx, click
the check box besides lyx, and press Apply Changes.

Other operating systems built on top of Linux, such as Fedora Core,
have similar ways of adding software.

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: LyX 1.6.2 crashed

[Paul A. Rubin]

Steve Litt wrote:



OK, I've downloaded these two, for 32 bit Jaunty, which I think is what I 
have. I know I have 32 bit, and I know I have 9.0.4.


9.04 is indeed Jaunty Jackelope.


Here's what I downloaded:

* lyx_1.6.3-1~getdeb1_i386.deb  
* lyx-common_1.6.3-1~getdeb1_all.deb


I've never used Ubuntu before, and my last use of Debian was last century, so 
I'm as raw a newbie as you can imagine. So my question is, now that I have 
these two packages on my local hard drive, exactly what commands do I use to 
upgrade or install or whatever, and if I don't like it, exactly what do I do 
to back it out to the current LyX I have now?




If you right-click each of the .deb files, the first option in the 
context menu should be 'Open with GDebi Package Installer'.  Once the 
window pops up, you want to click 'Install Package'.  There's a catch: 
you need to install the 'common' package first (the installer won't 
install LyX itself until that dependency is met), but if you have 1.6.2 
installed, the installer won't install the 1.6.3 common package because 
it will break the dependency of LyX 1.6.2 on the 1.6.2 common package.


So (assuming 1.6.2 or earlier is installed), start by going to System  
Administration  Synaptic Package Manager, search on 'lyx' (you may want 
to filter just installed packages on the left), select 'lyx-common', 
click on the box at the left and select 'Mark for Removal' (not 'Mark 
for Complete Removal', which I think would also nuke your local .lyx 
directory with any settings changes, local layouts etc. -- although I'm 
not 100% positive about that, being too chicken to try).  It should be 
ok to leave the latex-xft-fonts package alone.  Then click 'Apply' (on 
the menu bar and again in the dialog) and let the package manager 
uninstall LyX.  Close anything that can't outrun you when it's done. 
Then right-click the 'common' package and click install.  You'll get a 
warning that an older version (which you just uninstalled) is available 
in the official channel.  Ignore it and forge ahead.  When the 'install' 
button changes to 'reinstall', you're done with that package; kill the 
dialog and repeat with the other package.  Applications  Office  LyX 
should start the new version.


/Paul

Re: LyX 1.6.2 crashed

[Steve Litt]

On Friday 24 July 2009 14:29:34 Paul A. Rubin wrote:
 Steve Litt wrote:
  OK, I've downloaded these two, for 32 bit Jaunty, which I think is what I
  have. I know I have 32 bit, and I know I have 9.0.4.

 9.04 is indeed Jaunty Jackelope.

  Here's what I downloaded:
 
  * lyx_1.6.3-1~getdeb1_i386.deb
  * lyx-common_1.6.3-1~getdeb1_all.deb
 
  I've never used Ubuntu before, and my last use of Debian was last
  century, so I'm as raw a newbie as you can imagine. So my question is,
  now that I have these two packages on my local hard drive, exactly what
  commands do I use to upgrade or install or whatever, and if I don't like
  it, exactly what do I do to back it out to the current LyX I have now?

 If you right-click each of the .deb files, the first option in the
 context menu should be 'Open with GDebi Package Installer'.  Once the
 window pops up, you want to click 'Install Package'.  There's a catch:
 you need to install the 'common' package first (the installer won't
 install LyX itself until that dependency is met), but if you have 1.6.2
 installed, the installer won't install the 1.6.3 common package because   
 it will break the dependency of LyX 1.6.2 on the 1.6.2 common package.

 So (assuming 1.6.2 or earlier is installed), start by going to System 
 Administration  Synaptic Package Manager, search on 'lyx' (you may want
 to filter just installed packages on the left), select 'lyx-common',
 click on the box at the left and select 'Mark for Removal' (not 'Mark
 for Complete Removal', which I think would also nuke your local .lyx
 directory with any settings changes, local layouts etc. -- although I'm
 not 100% positive about that, being too chicken to try).  It should be
 ok to leave the latex-xft-fonts package alone.  Then click 'Apply' (on
 the menu bar and again in the dialog) and let the package manager
 uninstall LyX.  Close anything that can't outrun you when it's done.
 Then right-click the 'common' package and click install.  You'll get a
 warning that an older version (which you just uninstalled) is available
 in the official channel.  Ignore it and forge ahead.  When the 'install'
 button changes to 'reinstall', you're done with that package; kill the
 dialog and repeat with the other package.  Applications  Office  LyX
 should start the new version.

 /Paul

* *
\ o /
 \|/ 
  |   C O O L
 / \  _  
/   \/
   /
  -

Thanks Paul Your instructions worked perfectly, and 1.6.3 is stable enough 
to keep LyX up the whole time I tested it (15 minutes), so I assume it's 
stable for hours or days.

By the way, I wasn't sure what you meant by Close anything that can't outrun 
you when it's done so I ignored that part.

Thanks again.

SteveT

Re: LyX 1.6.2 crashed

[Steve Litt]

On Friday 24 July 2009 04:14:50 you wrote:
 Steve Litt wrote:
I opened one of my docs in LyX, clicked document on the menu, and
lyx terminated...
  
   ...
  
LyX Version 1.6.2
  
   ...

 Nikos Alexandris wrote:
   If you have no strong reasons to stick with 1.6.2 you could try out
   1.6.3.

 Steve Litt wrote:
  Is there a way I could, using Ubuntu's package manager,
  upgrade to 1.6.3 or better? I just want to avoid having to compile -- so
  far every single thing but djbdns, VimOutliner and UMENU were installed
  via the package manager, and I'd like to keep it that pure if possible.

 Steve,

 no need to compile here ;-). .deb packages are compiled stuff for
 debian-based linux distris.

Thanks so much Nikos!!

I did what you said, and now have a very stable 1.6.3. You helped me out 
immensely.

SteveT

Re: how to install LyX in Windows?

[Witold (grizz) Firlej]

On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 19:19, m.kocin...@mini.pw.edu.pl wrote:
 It was rather surprise for me that installing LyX in Linux seems to be
 much more complecated than in Windows. In fact, I have no experience in
 Linux...

for example in PLD Linux

ipoldek install lyx

DONE ;)





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Re: LyX 1.6.2 crashed

[Nikos Alexandris]

On Fri, 2009-07-24 at 15:25 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
...
 I did what you said, and now have a very stable 1.6.3. You helped me out 
 immensely.

So, it works! Great :-)

I promise I'll never use Memoir again!

[Steve Litt]

Hi all,

Memoir.

Slowly I turn, step by step, inch by inch.

Memoir. Never again!

As you know I switched to Ubuntu and of course things are different. But for 
the most part, my books whose document classes were based on book fired up 
just fine once I fixed the layout location (and of course once I got a LyX that 
stayed running more than 20 seconds :-)

But Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting is built with a document class 
based on Memoir, and it's nothing but trouble. First I had to get Memoir from 
the web because the Ubuntu one didn't seem to work. Now I need memhfixc or my 
book gets the zero output error.

The memhfixc and memoir documentations say memhfixc is included in memoir, but 
I 
sure couldn't find it. Yeah, I finally realized I had to run latex  
mempatch.ins, but it all took time and it was all a hassle. I had to take 
apart the book til I got a small file to reproduce the problem, narrowed it 
down to memhfixc, and then had to figure out how to fix it. For all I know, 
there 
will be yet other problems when I put back the original layout file and the 
original document.

Worse, this isn't the first time. Every time I lay down a new OS, my memoir 
derived book fails. All my book derived books work marvelously. If I get time, 
I'm going to rework Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting to use a book 
derived document class.

I'm not saying Memoir doesn't have its place. The person who uses Memoir for 
every book and is intimately familiar with its idiocyncracies will have little 
trouble with it. But that's not me.

One thing's for sure -- I'll never use Memoir for a new book again.

SteveT

Re: I promise I'll never use Memoir again!

[Rich Shepard]

On Fri, 24 Jul 2009, Steve Litt wrote:


Worse, this isn't the first time. Every time I lay down a new OS, my
memoir derived book fails.


Steve,

  Perhaps this is a clue to stick with a single distribution. :-)


I'm not saying Memoir doesn't have its place. The person who uses Memoir
for every book and is intimately familiar with its idiocyncracies will
have little trouble with it. But that's not me.


  I tried the Memoir class a couple of times but it did not work as
expected. So now I stick with the KOMA-Script book class and it's easy to do
the few tweaks I want.


One thing's for sure -- I'll never use Memoir for a new book again.


  I have been told by Those Who Know that it's common for a new version of
Microsoft Word to refuse to open a document created with an earlier version.
And people still pay money for this! Imagine what fun will occur in another
decade with legal documents in Word-3, -4, -5, or -6 format if they cannot
be opened in whatever version is sold by then. Whew!

  Now and then I find old documents prepared by OpenOffice.org-1.0.0 (or
earlier) and all of them open without any problems in the current -3.0.0.

  Try KOMA-Script. Works well and the documentation is thorough and well
written (in LaTeX, of course).

Rich

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Re: I promise I'll never use Memoir again!

[Steve Litt]

On Friday 24 July 2009 19:08:43 Rich Shepard wrote:
 On Fri, 24 Jul 2009, Steve Litt wrote:
  Worse, this isn't the first time. Every time I lay down a new OS, my
  memoir derived book fails.

 Steve,

Perhaps this is a clue to stick with a single distribution. :-)

  I'm not saying Memoir doesn't have its place. The person who uses Memoir
  for every book and is intimately familiar with its idiocyncracies will
  have little trouble with it. But that's not me.

I tried the Memoir class a couple of times but it did not work as
 expected. So now I stick with the KOMA-Script book class and it's easy to
 do the few tweaks I want.

  One thing's for sure -- I'll never use Memoir for a new book again.

I have been told by Those Who Know that it's common for a new version of
 Microsoft Word to refuse to open a document created with an earlier
 version. And people still pay money for this! Imagine what fun will occur
 in another decade with legal documents in Word-3, -4, -5, or -6 format if
 they cannot be opened in whatever version is sold by then. Whew!

Now and then I find old documents prepared by OpenOffice.org-1.0.0 (or
 earlier) and all of them open without any problems in the current -3.0.0.

Try KOMA-Script. Works well and the documentation is thorough and well
 written (in LaTeX, of course).

 Rich

If I'm not mistaken, the doc class for Troubleshooting Techniques of the 
Successful Technologist was derived from Koma. I'll keep you informed :-)

SteveT

Re: I promise I'll never use Memoir again!

[Paul A. Rubin]

Steve Litt wrote:



But Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting is built with a document class 
based on Memoir, and it's nothing but trouble. First I had to get Memoir from 
the web because the Ubuntu one didn't seem to work. Now I need memhfixc or my 
book gets the zero output error.


The memhfixc and memoir documentations say memhfixc is included in memoir, but I 
sure couldn't find it. Yeah, I finally realized I had to run latex  
mempatch.ins, but it all took time and it was all a hassle. I had to take 
apart the book til I got a small file to reproduce the problem, narrowed it 
down to memhfixc, and then had to figure out how to fix it. For all I know, there 
will be yet other problems when I put back the original layout file and the 
original document.




The 2008 version of TeXLive (which seems to be the preferred LaTeX 
distro on Ubuntu) supposedly has a package manager (tlmgr) which might 
take care of some of the package installation hassles.  Unfortunately, 
the official repositories for Ubuntu have a somewhat conservative 
adoption rate for new packages (including updates), so the official 
release is still TeXLive 2007, with no package manager.


So you might want to manually install the 2008 version. Alternatively 
(and this is what I use at the moment), MiKTeX's excellent package 
manager has been ported to Linux.  It lacks the GUI of the Windows 
version, but the command line syntax is not all that complicated, and it 
Just Works.  I'm not positive whether using it to install memoir would 
get mempatch properly installed, but in general there seems to be no 
manual futzing required once it installs a package.


HTH,
Paul

Re: I promise I'll never use Memoir again!

[Rich Shepard]

On Fri, 24 Jul 2009, Steve Litt wrote:


If I'm not mistaken, the doc class for Troubleshooting Techniques of the
Successful Technologist was derived from Koma. I'll keep you informed :-)


SteveT,

  Whatever floats your boat is OK with me. It's your issue, so do whatever
feels good.

Rich

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Re: how to install LyX in Windows?

[Richard Heck]

On 07/24/2009 01:19 PM, m.kocin...@mini.pw.edu.pl wrote:

It was rather surprise for me that installing LyX in Linux seems to be
much more complecated than in Windows. In fact, I have no experience in
Linux...

   
It's actually a whole lot simpler to install software in Linux than in 
Windows.



Why there is hard to find install. exe file for LyX at lyx.org?
Is it true that that words Major Linux distributions take care of LyX
binaries themselves and you will find LyX in their repositories. mean
when I buy a new notebok with Linux installed then there will also LyX
there?

   
Possibly it will be installed by default, but if not, it will normally 
be very easy to install it. How fast it will be will depend upon the 
speed of your internet connection, but of course that's the same as with 
any software you download.


Linux distros generally maintain a software repository of some sort 
and provide some way of installing software from this repository (and, 
more generally, of managing your installed software). Different distros 
have different ways of doing this. But most provide both some sort of 
GUI interface that allows you to browse, search, etc, the available 
software, and then install it. The GUI is built on top of some lower 
level library, or on top of command line tools.


So, on Fedora, it can be as easy as typing this:
yum install lyx
in a terminal window. That will install LyX and everything LyX needs to 
work properly. No manual downloads of installation files required. If 
you decide you want to remove lyx, you type:

yum remove lyx
and it's gone.

By the way: No need to reboot when you do this kind of thing. Once it's 
installed, it's ready to go.


Even better: When a new version of LyX comes out (say, 1.6.4, in not 
very long), it will be added fairly quickly to the Fedora repositories 
and then will be updated, along with everything else, when the system is 
updated---which, of course, it is just as easy to do:

 yum update
Or you can use the gui, if you prefer.

And, of course, it's not just LyX that is so easy to install and update. 
It's everything.


I've talked about Fedora, because that's my distro. But Ubuntu, Debian, 
Suse, whatever, all have similar tools.


Score one for Linux

Richard

Re: LyX 1.6.2 crashed

[Nikos Alexandris]

Steve Litt wrote:

> > > I opened one of my docs in LyX, clicked "document" on the menu, and lyx
> > > terminated...
> > ...
> > > LyX Version 1.6.2
> > ...

Nikos Alexandris wrote:

> > If you have no strong reasons to stick with 1.6.2 you could try out 1.6.3.


Steve Litt wrote:

> Is there a way I could, using Ubuntu's package manager, 
> upgrade to 1.6.3 or better? I just want to avoid having to compile -- so far 
> every single thing but djbdns, VimOutliner and UMENU were installed via the 
> package manager, and I'd like to keep it that pure if possible.

Steve,

no need to compile here ;-). ".deb" packages are compiled stuff for
debian-based linux distris.

Especially the "getdeb" site [*] is dedicated to bring faster
ready-to-use packages for Ubuntu-Linux (because usually it takes some
time before new versions of applications land on the official
repositories -- that also means that those packages are not tested).

So, all you have to do to get LyX 1.6.3 for Ubuntu Jaunty 64-bit is a
few clicks to download the ".deb's" [1][2], give your password and click
Install each time. Most of it is self-explainable :-).

If you find that the ".deb" you have installed isn't doing what it
should do, you can always remove it the "normal" way, that is using the
package manager Synaptic - gui or from the command line.

All the best, Nikos
---

[*] http://www.getdeb.net

for Ubuntu Jaunty 64-bit:
[1] http://www.getdeb.net/download/4584/1
[2] http://www.getdeb.net/download/4584/0

If you have another version of Ubuntu, then click at
http://www.getdeb.net/distro_select.php and select accordingly. Probably
there is a ".deb" package for all Ubuntu versions.

\rm in formula

[Patrick Dupre]

Hello,

With version 1.6.3 it is easy to see what does lyx, so I would like to
mention this problem.
In math mode (CTRL M), I can type \rm and then CH, but I want a subscript,
I need to leave the rm mode while latex like: $\rm CH_3$ or $\rm CH_{3}$
Using lyx, I did not find any way to enter the same. lyx forces:
${\rm CH}_{3}$.
Is their any way to by pass this problem ?

Thank.

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==

logical markup and noweb articles

[Sam Liddicott]

The logical markup module's code markup:
   \code{code here}

works fine, unless a noweb article is selected, in which case the
typewriter font runs through to the rest of the document. The other
logical markup types seem to work fine.

Any clues for me? (Lyx 1.6.2)

Sam

Re: \rm in formula

[Matthias Bechmann]

Patrick Dupre  writes:



> lyx forces:
> ${\rm CH}_{3}$.
> Is their any way to by pass this problem ?

you can try using \mathrm instead of \rm


matthias

Re: logical markup and noweb articles

[Sam Liddicott]

* Sam Liddicott wrote, On 24/07/09 11:13:
> The logical markup module's code markup:
>\code{code here}
> 
> works fine, unless a noweb article is selected, in which case the
> typewriter font runs through to the rest of the document. The other
> logical markup types seem to work fine.
> 
> Any clues for me? (Lyx 1.6.2)


I found that it is because noweb.sty also defines a \code

I'll try and combine some variant of:
\newcommand{\ncode}{\code}
before the noweb declarations start

Sam

Re: logical markup and noweb articles

[Sam Liddicott]

* Sam Liddicott wrote, On 24/07/09 11:13:
> The logical markup module's code markup:
>\code{code here}
> 
> works fine, unless a noweb article is selected, in which case the
> typewriter font runs through to the rest of the document. The other
> logical markup types seem to work fine.
> 


As far as I can tell, noweb.sty doesn't actually use it's \code and
\edoc commands directly, and as noweb/lyx doesn't either, I just added
this line to my documents Latex preamble:

\renewcommand{\code}[1]{\texttt{#1}}

Sam

turkish language error

[Taner Mutlu]

I get compilation error when the following two configurations are done at the 
same time;

1)Change language from document->settings to turkish
2)The ouput size(scale, width and/or height) of a graphic is altered anyhow.

The error scheen is as follows:

Package babel Error: You haven't loaded the option english yet.
Package babel Error: You haven't loaded the option english yet.
Package babel Error: You haven't loaded the option english yet.
Missing \endcsname inserted.
Missing number, treated as zero.
Illegal unit of measure (pt inserted).
Extra \endcsname.
Missing \endcsname inserted.
Missing \endcsname inserted.
Missing number, treated as zero.
Illegal unit of measure (pt inserted).
Extra \endcsname.
Missing \endcsname inserted.

How can I avoid this error...




Taner Mutlu
İstanbul Teknik Üniversitesi
Uçak Uzay Bilimleri Fakültesi
ROTAM Merkezi
Maslak/İstanbul

Tel : 0212 2857189 - 115

Re: turkish language error

[Liviu Andronic]

Hello,
Please let us know your version of LyX and your OS.
Liviu

2009/7/23 Taner Mutlu :
>
> I get compilation error when the following two configurations are done at the 
> same time;
>
> 1)Change language from document->settings to turkish
> 2)The ouput size(scale, width and/or height) of a graphic is altered anyhow.
>
> The error scheen is as follows:
>
> Package babel Error: You haven't loaded the option english yet.
> Package babel Error: You haven't loaded the option english yet.
> Package babel Error: You haven't loaded the option english yet.
> Missing \endcsname inserted.
> Missing number, treated as zero.
> Illegal unit of measure (pt inserted).
> Extra \endcsname.
> Missing \endcsname inserted.
> Missing \endcsname inserted.
> Missing number, treated as zero.
> Illegal unit of measure (pt inserted).
> Extra \endcsname.
> Missing \endcsname inserted.
>
> How can I avoid this error...
>
>
>
>
> Taner Mutlu
> İstanbul Teknik Üniversitesi
> Uçak Uzay Bilimleri Fakültesi
> ROTAM Merkezi
> Maslak/İstanbul
>
> Tel : 0212 2857189 - 115
>
>
>
>



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noweb chunk cross references in lyx

[Sam Liddicott]

I can use an ERT: \nextchunklabel{save-handle}
to define a label for a code chunk, and then refer to this from another
part of the document with ERT: \subpageref{save-handle}

Does/Can lyx support this more natively to avoid the ERT, but allow a
new label type beginning with nw: ?

Sam

Creating pdf or dvi file

[Conor Quigley]

Hello,
I am a new user to LyX and I sometimes have trouble updating and viewing either 
the dvi or the pdf file.
It works fine up to a point, and then for no apparent reason it will not update 
the dvi/pdf. This is happening when I am putting in my Biblography.
Has anybody come across this before or give a possible reason for this?

Conor.

Re: Creating pdf or dvi file

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Friday 24 July 2009 15:14:02 schrieb Conor Quigley:
> Hello,
> I am a new user to LyX and I sometimes have trouble updating and viewing
> either the dvi or the pdf file.
> It works fine up to a point, and then for no apparent reason it will not
> update the dvi/pdf. This is happening when I am putting in my Biblography.
> Has anybody come across this before or give a possible reason for this?
>
> Conor.

in my experience (pdf files) it indicates an error in a particular reference 
(e.g. wrong coding). If you remove the Bibtex produced literature list at the 
end of your document and run pdf without it, and it works, it is probably 
what I suggested. 
You can check the Latex protocoll under documents or start your lyx from a 
terminal: That tells you which reference might have caused the trouble.

Wolfgang

LyX overwrite

[Ed]

Is there a way to get LyX to default to overwrite files when exporting rather
than throw up a dialog box that can get lost under other windows?

I looked a bit but never found that option.

Thanks!

strange bug: two tabs opened when starting LyX

[Erez Yerushalmi]

Dear All,

I'm using LyX 1.6.3-1 with windows.

In the last week I get this funny bug.

Every time I start LyX, two tabs are opened.
*Tab 1* doesn't do anything when you press it. Its name is LyX 1.6.3-1.
*Tab 2 *is the LyX program tab. Its name is first file I'm working on at the
moment.

I know this is a silly and non disturbing bug, but can anyone tell me why
this happens??
How do I report it??

Thanks, Erez



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Trouble with lyx ftp site

[Anton Driesse]

Hi,

The site ftp.lyx.org doesn't seem to be responding to my home computers. 
  All I get is the response "connected to durga.via.ecp.fr" and then 
nothing happens.  I can ftp to other sites.  I have also downloaded lyx 
using my work computer, and managed to install it at home, but when the 
installer tries to get the spell checkers using ftp, it hangs also.


Any ideas why this might be?

Thanks!

Anton

RE: strange bug: two tabs opened when starting LyX

[Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW]

 
>Every time I start LyX, two tabs are opened.
>*Tab 1* doesn't do anything when you press it. Its name
>is LyX 1.6.3-1.
>*Tab 2 *is the LyX program tab. Its name is first file
>I'm working on at the moment.

What's the contents of your session file ? And especially, what entries
are there in the [last opened files] section ?

Maybe the problem is solved by deleting this session file.

Vincent

Re: strange bug: two tabs opened when starting LyX

[Erez Yerushalmi]

Hi Vincent

Thanks, but I don't really get what to do.

What do you mean by "contents of your session file "  ??

Even when I start LyX without opening a file, two Tabs are automatically
generated.
One with LyX 1.6.3-1 , and the other with just LyX.

In the file> open recent, I can see the last opened files.
Is there a way to clear the last opened files??

Thanks again, Erez



On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW <
v.f.vanraveste...@tudelft.nl> wrote:

>
> >Every time I start LyX, two tabs are opened.
> >*Tab 1* doesn't do anything when you press it. Its name
> >is LyX 1.6.3-1.
> >*Tab 2 *is the LyX program tab. Its name is first file
> >I'm working on at the moment.
>
> What's the contents of your session file ? And especially, what entries
> are there in the [last opened files] section ?
>
> Maybe the problem is solved by deleting this session file.
>
> Vincent
>



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PhD Student
Warwick University, UK
homepage: http://go.warwick.ac.uk/ep/pg/ecrfaw

Re: strange bug: two tabs opened when starting LyX

[Erez Yerushalmi]

Problem solved. Very simple.* Thanks Vincent!*

Here is a summary for others in the future:

I went to Preferences > Look Feel > User Interface
then pressed "clear all sessions information"

Thanks, Erez



On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW <
v.f.vanraveste...@tudelft.nl> wrote:

>
> >Every time I start LyX, two tabs are opened.
> >*Tab 1* doesn't do anything when you press it. Its name
> >is LyX 1.6.3-1.
> >*Tab 2 *is the LyX program tab. Its name is first file
> >I'm working on at the moment.
>
> What's the contents of your session file ? And especially, what entries
> are there in the [last opened files] section ?
>
> Maybe the problem is solved by deleting this session file.
>
> Vincent
>



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PhD Student
Warwick University, UK
homepage: http://go.warwick.ac.uk/ep/pg/ecrfaw

how to install LyX in Windows?

[M . Kocinski]

It was rather surprise for me that installing LyX in Linux seems to be
much more complecated than in Windows. In fact, I have no experience in
Linux...
Why there is hard to find "install. exe" file for LyX at lyx.org?
Is it true taht that words "Major Linux distributions take care of LyX
binaries themselves and you will find LyX in their repositories." mean
when I buy a new notebok with Linux installed then there will also LyX
there?

Thanks in advance for the answer!

how to install LyX in Linux?

[M . Kocinski]

It was rather surprise for me that installing LyX in Linux seems to be
much more complecated than in Windows. In fact, I have no experience in
Linux...
Why there is hard to find "install. exe" file for LyX at lyx.org?
Is it true taht that words "Major Linux distributions take care of LyX
binaries themselves and you will find LyX in their repositories." mean
when I buy a new notebok with Linux installed then there will also LyX
there?

Thanks in advance for the answer!

Re: how to install LyX in Linux?

[Rich Shepard]

On Fri, 24 Jul 2009, m.kocin...@mini.pw.edu.pl wrote:


It was rather surprise for me that installing LyX in Linux seems to be
much more complecated than in Windows. In fact, I have no experience in
Linux... Why there is hard to find "install. exe" file for LyX at lyx.org?


  Because it's not needed. Copy the executable to /usr/bin or
/usr/local/bin, change the permissions to 555 and you're good to go.


Is it true taht that words "Major Linux distributions take care of LyX
binaries themselves and you will find LyX in their repositories." mean
when I buy a new notebok with Linux installed then there will also LyX
there?


  No. But, most distributions now have their own package management systems.
For Red Hat and its derivatives they are the .rpm files with YUM (or
something else) as the manager; for Debian and its derivatives they are the
.deb files and apt as the manager; for Slackware and its derivatives they
are .tgz files and slaptget (which I don't use anyway).

  In linux _you_ control your system. So, you place files where you want
them to be located (sticking with the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard is
always a good idea), turn on the executable flag in the permissions and
use. It's a completely different world from Microsoft.

Rich

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Re: LyX 1.6.2 crashed

[Steve Litt]

On Friday 24 July 2009 04:14:50 Nikos Alexandris wrote:
> Steve Litt wrote:
> > > > I opened one of my docs in LyX, clicked "document" on the menu, and
> > > > lyx terminated...
> > >
> > > ...
> > >
> > > > LyX Version 1.6.2
> > >
> > > ...
>
> Nikos Alexandris wrote:
> > > If you have no strong reasons to stick with 1.6.2 you could try out
> > > 1.6.3.
>
> Steve Litt wrote:
> > Is there a way I could, using Ubuntu's package manager,
> > upgrade to 1.6.3 or better? I just want to avoid having to compile -- so
> > far every single thing but djbdns, VimOutliner and UMENU were installed
> > via the package manager, and I'd like to keep it that pure if possible.
>
> Steve,
>
> no need to compile here ;-). ".deb" packages are compiled stuff for
> debian-based linux distris.
>
> Especially the "getdeb" site [*] is dedicated to bring faster
> ready-to-use packages for Ubuntu-Linux (because usually it takes some
> time before new versions of applications land on the official
> repositories -- that also means that those packages are not tested).
>
> So, all you have to do to get LyX 1.6.3 for Ubuntu Jaunty 64-bit is a
> few clicks to download the ".deb's" [1][2], give your password and click
> Install each time. Most of it is self-explainable :-).
>
> If you find that the ".deb" you have installed isn't doing what it
> should do, you can always remove it the "normal" way, that is using the
> package manager Synaptic - gui or from the command line.
>
> All the best, Nikos

OK, I've downloaded these two, for 32 bit Jaunty, which I think is what I 
have. I know I have 32 bit, and I know I have 9.0.4. Here's what I downloaded:

* lyx_1.6.3-1~getdeb1_i386.deb  
* lyx-common_1.6.3-1~getdeb1_all.deb

I've never used Ubuntu before, and my last use of Debian was last century, so 
I'm as raw a newbie as you can imagine. So my question is, now that I have 
these two packages on my local hard drive, exactly what commands do I use to 
upgrade or install or whatever, and if I don't like it, exactly what do I do 
to back it out to the current LyX I have now?

Thanks for your patience. I'd rather ask dumb questions than make horrible 
mistakes :-)

SteveT

Re: how to install LyX in Linux?

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 1:23 AM,  wrote:
> It was rather surprise for me that installing LyX in Linux seems to be
> much more complecated than in Windows. In fact, I have no experience in
> Linux...
> Why there is hard to find "install. exe" file for LyX at lyx.org?

In Linux it is traditional to install software via your package
manager rather than via dodgy third party websites (like lyx.org :P).
This is in part to avoid viruses, and in part to avoid DLL hell (or
"so" hell as it would be more accurately described for Linux operating
systems). Personally I also find it more convenient, as I once set my
mirror to be my ISP (System->Administration->Software Sources in
Ubuntu), and then all the software I install comes from my FreeZone
(and not from my 4GB cap). This is especially handy since the LaTeX
install alone is quite big.

In Ubuntu Linux you go "Applications->Add/Remove", type in lyx, click
the check box besides lyx, and press Apply Changes.

Other operating systems built on top of Linux, such as Fedora Core,
have similar ways of adding software.

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: LyX 1.6.2 crashed

[Paul A. Rubin]

Steve Litt wrote:



OK, I've downloaded these two, for 32 bit Jaunty, which I think is what I 
have. I know I have 32 bit, and I know I have 9.0.4.


9.04 is indeed Jaunty Jackelope.


Here's what I downloaded:

* lyx_1.6.3-1~getdeb1_i386.deb  
* lyx-common_1.6.3-1~getdeb1_all.deb


I've never used Ubuntu before, and my last use of Debian was last century, so 
I'm as raw a newbie as you can imagine. So my question is, now that I have 
these two packages on my local hard drive, exactly what commands do I use to 
upgrade or install or whatever, and if I don't like it, exactly what do I do 
to back it out to the current LyX I have now?




If you right-click each of the .deb files, the first option in the 
context menu should be 'Open with "GDebi Package Installer"'.  Once the 
window pops up, you want to click 'Install Package'.  There's a catch: 
you need to install the 'common' package first (the installer won't 
install LyX itself until that dependency is met), but if you have 1.6.2 
installed, the installer won't install the 1.6.3 common package because 
it will break the dependency of LyX 1.6.2 on the 1.6.2 common package.


So (assuming 1.6.2 or earlier is installed), start by going to System > 
Administration > Synaptic Package Manager, search on 'lyx' (you may want 
to filter just installed packages on the left), select 'lyx-common', 
click on the box at the left and select 'Mark for Removal' (not 'Mark 
for Complete Removal', which I think would also nuke your local .lyx 
directory with any settings changes, local layouts etc. -- although I'm 
not 100% positive about that, being too chicken to try).  It should be 
ok to leave the latex-xft-fonts package alone.  Then click 'Apply' (on 
the menu bar and again in the dialog) and let the package manager 
uninstall LyX.  Close anything that can't outrun you when it's done. 
Then right-click the 'common' package and click install.  You'll get a 
warning that an older version (which you just uninstalled) is available 
in the official channel.  Ignore it and forge ahead.  When the 'install' 
button changes to 'reinstall', you're done with that package; kill the 
dialog and repeat with the other package.  Applications > Office > LyX 
should start the new version.


/Paul

Re: LyX 1.6.2 crashed

[Steve Litt]

On Friday 24 July 2009 14:29:34 Paul A. Rubin wrote:
> Steve Litt wrote:
> > OK, I've downloaded these two, for 32 bit Jaunty, which I think is what I
> > have. I know I have 32 bit, and I know I have 9.0.4.
>
> 9.04 is indeed Jaunty Jackelope.
>
> > Here's what I downloaded:
> >
> > * lyx_1.6.3-1~getdeb1_i386.deb
> > * lyx-common_1.6.3-1~getdeb1_all.deb
> >
> > I've never used Ubuntu before, and my last use of Debian was last
> > century, so I'm as raw a newbie as you can imagine. So my question is,
> > now that I have these two packages on my local hard drive, exactly what
> > commands do I use to upgrade or install or whatever, and if I don't like
> > it, exactly what do I do to back it out to the current LyX I have now?
>
> If you right-click each of the .deb files, the first option in the
> context menu should be 'Open with "GDebi Package Installer"'.  Once the
> window pops up, you want to click 'Install Package'.  There's a catch:
> you need to install the 'common' package first (the installer won't
> install LyX itself until that dependency is met), but if you have 1.6.2
> installed, the installer won't install the 1.6.3 common package because   
> it will break the dependency of LyX 1.6.2 on the 1.6.2 common package.
>
> So (assuming 1.6.2 or earlier is installed), start by going to System >
> Administration > Synaptic Package Manager, search on 'lyx' (you may want
> to filter just installed packages on the left), select 'lyx-common',
> click on the box at the left and select 'Mark for Removal' (not 'Mark
> for Complete Removal', which I think would also nuke your local .lyx
> directory with any settings changes, local layouts etc. -- although I'm
> not 100% positive about that, being too chicken to try).  It should be
> ok to leave the latex-xft-fonts package alone.  Then click 'Apply' (on
> the menu bar and again in the dialog) and let the package manager
> uninstall LyX.  Close anything that can't outrun you when it's done.
> Then right-click the 'common' package and click install.  You'll get a
> warning that an older version (which you just uninstalled) is available
> in the official channel.  Ignore it and forge ahead.  When the 'install'
> button changes to 'reinstall', you're done with that package; kill the
> dialog and repeat with the other package.  Applications > Office > LyX
> should start the new version.
>
> /Paul

* *
\ o /
 \|/ 
  |   C O O L
 / \  _  
/   \/
   /
  -

Thanks Paul Your instructions worked perfectly, and 1.6.3 is stable enough 
to keep LyX up the whole time I tested it (15 minutes), so I assume it's 
stable for hours or days.

By the way, I wasn't sure what you meant by "Close anything that can't outrun 
you when it's done" so I ignored that part.

Thanks again.

SteveT

Re: LyX 1.6.2 crashed

[Steve Litt]

On Friday 24 July 2009 04:14:50 you wrote:
> Steve Litt wrote:
> > > > I opened one of my docs in LyX, clicked "document" on the menu, and
> > > > lyx terminated...
> > >
> > > ...
> > >
> > > > LyX Version 1.6.2
> > >
> > > ...
>
> Nikos Alexandris wrote:
> > > If you have no strong reasons to stick with 1.6.2 you could try out
> > > 1.6.3.
>
> Steve Litt wrote:
> > Is there a way I could, using Ubuntu's package manager,
> > upgrade to 1.6.3 or better? I just want to avoid having to compile -- so
> > far every single thing but djbdns, VimOutliner and UMENU were installed
> > via the package manager, and I'd like to keep it that pure if possible.
>
> Steve,
>
> no need to compile here ;-). ".deb" packages are compiled stuff for
> debian-based linux distris.

Thanks so much Nikos!!

I did what you said, and now have a very stable 1.6.3. You helped me out 
immensely.

SteveT

Re: how to install LyX in Windows?

[Witold (grizz) Firlej]

On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 19:19,  wrote:
> It was rather surprise for me that installing LyX in Linux seems to be
> much more complecated than in Windows. In fact, I have no experience in
> Linux...

for example in PLD Linux

ipoldek install lyx

DONE ;)





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Re: LyX 1.6.2 crashed

[Nikos Alexandris]

On Fri, 2009-07-24 at 15:25 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
...
> I did what you said, and now have a very stable 1.6.3. You helped me out 
> immensely.

So, it works! Great :-)

I promise I'll never use Memoir again!

[Steve Litt]

Hi all,

Memoir.

Slowly I turn, step by step, inch by inch.

Memoir. Never again!

As you know I switched to Ubuntu and of course things are different. But for 
the most part, my books whose document classes were based on "book" fired up 
just fine once I fixed the layout location (and of course once I got a LyX that 
stayed running more than 20 seconds :-)

But "Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting is built with a document class 
based on Memoir, and it's nothing but trouble. First I had to get Memoir from 
the web because the Ubuntu one didn't seem to work. Now I need memhfixc or my 
book gets the "zero output" error.

The memhfixc and memoir documentations say memhfixc is included in memoir, but 
I 
sure couldn't find it. Yeah, I finally realized I had to run latex  
mempatch.ins, but it all took time and it was all a hassle. I had to take 
apart the book til I got a small file to reproduce the problem, narrowed it 
down to memhfixc, and then had to figure out how to fix it. For all I know, 
there 
will be yet other problems when I put back the original layout file and the 
original document.

Worse, this isn't the first time. Every time I lay down a new OS, my memoir 
derived book fails. All my book derived books work marvelously. If I get time, 
I'm going to rework "Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting" to use a book 
derived document class.

I'm not saying Memoir doesn't have its place. The person who uses Memoir for 
every book and is intimately familiar with its idiocyncracies will have little 
trouble with it. But that's not me.

One thing's for sure -- I'll never use Memoir for a new book again.

SteveT

Re: I promise I'll never use Memoir again!

[Rich Shepard]

On Fri, 24 Jul 2009, Steve Litt wrote:


Worse, this isn't the first time. Every time I lay down a new OS, my
memoir derived book fails.


Steve,

  Perhaps this is a clue to stick with a single distribution. :-)


I'm not saying Memoir doesn't have its place. The person who uses Memoir
for every book and is intimately familiar with its idiocyncracies will
have little trouble with it. But that's not me.


  I tried the Memoir class a couple of times but it did not work as
expected. So now I stick with the KOMA-Script book class and it's easy to do
the few tweaks I want.


One thing's for sure -- I'll never use Memoir for a new book again.


  I have been told by Those Who Know that it's common for a new version of
Microsoft Word to refuse to open a document created with an earlier version.
And people still pay money for this! Imagine what fun will occur in another
decade with legal documents in Word-3, -4, -5, or -6 format if they cannot
be opened in whatever version is sold by then. Whew!

  Now and then I find old documents prepared by OpenOffice.org-1.0.0 (or
earlier) and all of them open without any problems in the current -3.0.0.

  Try KOMA-Script. Works well and the documentation is thorough and well
written (in LaTeX, of course).

Rich

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Re: I promise I'll never use Memoir again!

[Steve Litt]

On Friday 24 July 2009 19:08:43 Rich Shepard wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Jul 2009, Steve Litt wrote:
> > Worse, this isn't the first time. Every time I lay down a new OS, my
> > memoir derived book fails.
>
> Steve,
>
>Perhaps this is a clue to stick with a single distribution. :-)
>
> > I'm not saying Memoir doesn't have its place. The person who uses Memoir
> > for every book and is intimately familiar with its idiocyncracies will
> > have little trouble with it. But that's not me.
>
>I tried the Memoir class a couple of times but it did not work as
> expected. So now I stick with the KOMA-Script book class and it's easy to
> do the few tweaks I want.
>
> > One thing's for sure -- I'll never use Memoir for a new book again.
>
>I have been told by Those Who Know that it's common for a new version of
> Microsoft Word to refuse to open a document created with an earlier
> version. And people still pay money for this! Imagine what fun will occur
> in another decade with legal documents in Word-3, -4, -5, or -6 format if
> they cannot be opened in whatever version is sold by then. Whew!
>
>Now and then I find old documents prepared by OpenOffice.org-1.0.0 (or
> earlier) and all of them open without any problems in the current -3.0.0.
>
>Try KOMA-Script. Works well and the documentation is thorough and well
> written (in LaTeX, of course).
>
> Rich

If I'm not mistaken, the doc class for "Troubleshooting Techniques of the 
Successful Technologist" was derived from Koma. I'll keep you informed :-)

SteveT

Re: I promise I'll never use Memoir again!

[Paul A. Rubin]

Steve Litt wrote:



But "Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting is built with a document class 
based on Memoir, and it's nothing but trouble. First I had to get Memoir from 
the web because the Ubuntu one didn't seem to work. Now I need memhfixc or my 
book gets the "zero output" error.


The memhfixc and memoir documentations say memhfixc is included in memoir, but I 
sure couldn't find it. Yeah, I finally realized I had to run latex  
mempatch.ins, but it all took time and it was all a hassle. I had to take 
apart the book til I got a small file to reproduce the problem, narrowed it 
down to memhfixc, and then had to figure out how to fix it. For all I know, there 
will be yet other problems when I put back the original layout file and the 
original document.




The 2008 version of TeXLive (which seems to be the preferred LaTeX 
distro on Ubuntu) supposedly has a package manager (tlmgr) which might 
take care of some of the package installation hassles.  Unfortunately, 
the official repositories for Ubuntu have a somewhat conservative 
adoption rate for new packages (including updates), so the official 
release is still TeXLive 2007, with no package manager.


So you might want to manually install the 2008 version. Alternatively 
(and this is what I use at the moment), MiKTeX's excellent package 
manager has been ported to Linux.  It lacks the GUI of the Windows 
version, but the command line syntax is not all that complicated, and it 
Just Works.  I'm not positive whether using it to install memoir would 
get mempatch properly installed, but in general there seems to be no 
manual futzing required once it installs a package.


HTH,
Paul

Re: I promise I'll never use Memoir again!

[Rich Shepard]

On Fri, 24 Jul 2009, Steve Litt wrote:


If I'm not mistaken, the doc class for "Troubleshooting Techniques of the
Successful Technologist" was derived from Koma. I'll keep you informed :-)


SteveT,

  Whatever floats your boat is OK with me. It's your issue, so do whatever
feels good.

Rich

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Re: how to install LyX in Windows?

[Richard Heck]

On 07/24/2009 01:19 PM, m.kocin...@mini.pw.edu.pl wrote:

It was rather surprise for me that installing LyX in Linux seems to be
much more complecated than in Windows. In fact, I have no experience in
Linux...

   
It's actually a whole lot simpler to install software in Linux than in 
Windows.



Why there is hard to find "install. exe" file for LyX at lyx.org?
Is it true that that words "Major Linux distributions take care of LyX
binaries themselves and you will find LyX in their repositories." mean
when I buy a new notebok with Linux installed then there will also LyX
there?

   
Possibly it will be installed by default, but if not, it will normally 
be very easy to install it. How fast it will be will depend upon the 
speed of your internet connection, but of course that's the same as with 
any software you download.


Linux distros generally maintain a "software repository" of some sort 
and provide some way of installing software from this repository (and, 
more generally, of managing your installed software). Different distros 
have different ways of doing this. But most provide both some sort of 
GUI interface that allows you to browse, search, etc, the available 
software, and then install it. The GUI is built on top of some lower 
level library, or on top of command line tools.


So, on Fedora, it can be as easy as typing this:
yum install lyx
in a terminal window. That will install LyX and everything LyX needs to 
work properly. No manual downloads of installation files required. If 
you decide you want to remove lyx, you type:

yum remove lyx
and it's gone.

By the way: No need to reboot when you do this kind of thing. Once it's 
installed, it's ready to go.


Even better: When a new version of LyX comes out (say, 1.6.4, in not 
very long), it will be added fairly quickly to the Fedora repositories 
and then will be updated, along with everything else, when the system is 
updated---which, of course, it is just as easy to do:

 yum update
Or you can use the gui, if you prefer.

And, of course, it's not just LyX that is so easy to install and update. 
It's everything.


I've talked about Fedora, because that's my distro. But Ubuntu, Debian, 
Suse, whatever, all have similar tools.


Score one for Linux

Richard