Re: Hindi typing in ubuntu 12.10

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
 I guess we need some 
 special support like we have for arabic. Are there some special 
 character composition rules we should know about?

Do we really have to reinvent the wheel given that Qt has all this 
information? I understand it would be significant work to break down and 
rebuild our painter on top of Qt, but I also understand it would solve many 
(performance and rendering) problems.

Jürgen

Re: unicode superscripts in the bibliography

[Frédéric Parrenin]

Dear Stefano,

Thank you for your answer.
I followed the Lyx wiki for biber/biblatex but now:
- the references are not formatted, only the shortcut/nickname appears
- there is no bibliography at the end of the document (yes, I inserted the
bibtex bibliography in a comment and the \printbibliography command in ERT).

What is going wrong?

Frédéric Parrenin



2013/1/25 stefano franchi stefano.fran...@gmail.com

 Frederic,

 which bibliography  processor do you use? bibtex does not support unicode
 and I guess it never will. If you want your bibtex files to be
 unicode-encoded, the best solution, in my opinion is to switch to
 biber+biblatex. biber supports unicode fully and lyx can be set to use it
 (in DocumentsSettings). biblatex is not completely supported in LyX yet,
 but it is usabel if you follow the instructions in the wiki.

 Cheers,

 Stefano


 On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 4:55 AM, Frédéric Parrenin 
 parre...@ujf-grenoble.fr wrote:

 Dear all,


 I use my bibtex database both with LibreOffice (using jabref and the OO
 plugin) and Lyx.
 For superscript/subscript characters, I use unicode encoding since it is
 the only way jabref and its OO plugin can process them.

 Problem is that now, I get some errors when using these references in
 Lyx, for example:

 using δ¹

 ⁸o of atmospheric oxygen measurements.

 I've inserted a begin-math/end-math symbol since I think

 you left one out. Proceed, with fingers crossed.


 Do you know if there is a solution for this problem (apart from creating
 double entries, one with unicode and one with latex coding)?

 Best regards,

 Frédéric Parrenin





 --
 __
 Stefano Franchi
 Associate Research Professor
 Department of Hispanic StudiesPh:   +1 (979) 845-2125
 Texas AM University  Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
 College Station, Texas, USA

 stef...@tamu.edu
 http://stefano.cleinias.org

Error on Memoir after Linux upgrade

[Steve Litt]

Hi all,

I googled this thing from here to eternity, and didn't find anything
helpful. This happened right after I replaced Ubuntu 11.10 with Xubuntu
12.10. This book, whose document class is based on Memoir, got four
error messages like this:

Class memoir Error: The pagestyle 'cleared' is marked as an alias page
style.

Here are the four error locations it reported:

\makeevenhead{cleared}{}{}{}

\makeoddhead{cleared}{}{}{}

\makeevenfoot{cleared}{}{\thepage}{}

\makeoddfoot{cleared}{}{\thepage}{}

Right now I'm assuming this is caused by either my failure to install
something, or a change within Memoir. Has anybody run into this or do
you have an idea of its cause and/or solution?

Thanks

SteveT

Re: Hindi typing in ubuntu 12.10

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Hridayesh Gupta wrote:
 Chandas was already installed in my Ubuntu 12.10. I tried Chandas, Sahdeva,
 Nakula, Siddhanta, Sanskrit2003, FreeSans from given list which were
 already installed, as well as some other installed fonts.
 Copied the same text mentioned in that email to try these fonts. not able
 to understand Why this issue.

Do you refer both to the PDF output and the LyX-internal display? I understand 
that the display in the LyX view is broken, but I do not understand why the 
PDF output should be, as long as the LaTeX source preview is correct. 
Did you use

\setmainfont[Script=Devanagari]{Chandas}

in the preamble, while having Use non-TeX fonts checked and having selected 
_no_ particular font from the dropdown boxes?
This setting seems to work for me. However, I cannot read Devanagari, so I 
cannot really judge whether the output is correct.


As far as the LyX view is concerned, the problem comes from the fact that we 
paint character by character, which breaks ligatures. As far as I can see, the 
situation improves if you put the following line in your preferences file in 
~/.lyx (if you do not have a preferences file, do an arbitrary change in 
Tools  Preferences, and it will be generated):

\force_paint_single_char false

You also might need to uncheck Spellcheck continuously in Tools  
Preferences  Language Settings  Spellchecker.

This workaround probably has some disadvantages (else we would not force this 
by default), but I don't remember which.

Jürgen

Re: unicode superscripts in the bibliography

[stefano franchi]

On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 3:37 AM, Frédéric Parrenin parre...@ujf-grenoble.fr
 wrote:

 Dear Stefano,

 Thank you for your answer.
 I followed the Lyx wiki for biber/biblatex but now:
 - the references are not formatted, only the shortcut/nickname appears
 - there is no bibliography at the end of the document (yes, I inserted the
 bibtex bibliography in a comment and the \printbibliography command in ERT).


Most likely, this means that your bibtex processor (which should be biber)
fails to find the bib file with your references or it finds it but somehow
chokes on it. Check the following:

1. you have a line in your preamble (DocumentSettingsLaTeX preamble)
that says:

\addbibresource(/absolute/path/to/my/reference/file.bib}

Notice that the .bib extension is required AND you need the absolute path

2. You have biber selected as bibtex processor in
DocumentSettingsBibliographyProcessor

3. your bibtex file is actually encoded in unicode (UTF8)

If all fails, check the biber log, which you can reach via DocumentLaTeX
loglog type BibTeX
and post it here

Cheers,

Stefano


 What is going wrong?

 Frédéric Parrenin




 2013/1/25 stefano franchi stefano.fran...@gmail.com

 Frederic,

 which bibliography  processor do you use? bibtex does not support unicode
 and I guess it never will. If you want your bibtex files to be
 unicode-encoded, the best solution, in my opinion is to switch to
 biber+biblatex. biber supports unicode fully and lyx can be set to use it
 (in DocumentsSettings). biblatex is not completely supported in LyX yet,
 but it is usabel if you follow the instructions in the wiki.

 Cheers,

 Stefano


 On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 4:55 AM, Frédéric Parrenin 
 parre...@ujf-grenoble.fr wrote:

 Dear all,


 I use my bibtex database both with LibreOffice (using jabref and the OO
 plugin) and Lyx.
 For superscript/subscript characters, I use unicode encoding since it is
 the only way jabref and its OO plugin can process them.

 Problem is that now, I get some errors when using these references in
 Lyx, for example:

 using δ¹

 ⁸o of atmospheric oxygen measurements.

 I've inserted a begin-math/end-math symbol since I think

 you left one out. Proceed, with fingers crossed.


 Do you know if there is a solution for this problem (apart from creating
 double entries, one with unicode and one with latex coding)?

 Best regards,

 Frédéric Parrenin





 --
 __
 Stefano Franchi
 Associate Research Professor
 Department of Hispanic StudiesPh:   +1 (979) 845-2125
 Texas AM University  Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
 College Station, Texas, USA

 stef...@tamu.edu
 http://stefano.cleinias.org





-- 
__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic StudiesPh:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas AM University  Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

stef...@tamu.edu
http://stefano.cleinias.org

Re: Error on Memoir after Linux upgrade

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 5:29 AM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 I googled this thing from here to eternity, and didn't find anything
 helpful. This happened right after I replaced Ubuntu 11.10 with Xubuntu
 12.10. This book, whose document class is based on Memoir, got four
 error messages like this:

 Class memoir Error: The pagestyle 'cleared' is marked as an alias page
 style.

 Here are the four error locations it reported:

 \makeevenhead{cleared}{}{}{}

 \makeoddhead{cleared}{}{}{}

 \makeevenfoot{cleared}{}{\thepage}{}

 \makeoddfoot{cleared}{}{\thepage}{}

 Right now I'm assuming this is caused by either my failure to install
 something, or a change within Memoir. Has anybody run into this or do
 you have an idea of its cause and/or solution?

Hi Steve,

What version of LyX are you using? Are you using the LyX Ubuntu PPA?
http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnUbuntu#toc3
It might be worth using that (e.g. daily PPA lyx2.0 which is what will
turn into LyX 2.0.6) and seeing if the problem is fixed.

If not, do you have a MWE?

Scott

Re: Error on Memoir after Linux upgrade WORKAROUND

[Steve Litt]

On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 05:29:25 -0500
Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I googled this thing from here to eternity, and didn't find anything
 helpful. This happened right after I replaced Ubuntu 11.10 with
 Xubuntu 12.10. This book, whose document class is based on Memoir,
 got four error messages like this:
 
 Class memoir Error: The pagestyle 'cleared' is marked as an alias page
 style.
 
 Here are the four error locations it reported:
 
 \makeevenhead{cleared}{}{}{}
 
 \makeoddhead{cleared}{}{}{}
 
 \makeevenfoot{cleared}{}{\thepage}{}
 
 \makeoddfoot{cleared}{}{\thepage}{}
 
 Right now I'm assuming this is caused by either my failure to install
 something, or a change within Memoir. Has anybody run into this or do
 you have an idea of its cause and/or solution?


My layout file had 

\makeevenhead{cleared}{}{}{}
\makeoddhead{cleared}{}{}{}
\makeevenfoot{cleared}{}{\thepage}{}
\makeoddfoot{cleared}{}{\thepage}{}

I commented those out, the problem went away, and I couldn't see any
side effects. Memoir docs are so sparse I don't know what the purpose
of those four lines were, but everything appears OK now.

Thanks

SteveT

Re: Error on Memoir after Linux upgrade

[Steve Litt]

On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:34:28 -0500
Scott Kostyshak skost...@princeton.edu wrote:

 On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 5:29 AM, Steve Litt
 sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  I googled this thing from here to eternity, and didn't find anything
  helpful. This happened right after I replaced Ubuntu 11.10 with
  Xubuntu 12.10. This book, whose document class is based on Memoir,
  got four error messages like this:
 
  Class memoir Error: The pagestyle 'cleared' is marked as an alias
  page style.

[clip]

 
  Right now I'm assuming this is caused by either my failure to
  install something, or a change within Memoir. Has anybody run into
  this or do you have an idea of its cause and/or solution?
 
 Hi Steve,
 
 What version of LyX are you using? Are you using the LyX Ubuntu PPA?
 http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnUbuntu#toc3
 It might be worth using that (e.g. daily PPA lyx2.0 which is what will
 turn into LyX 2.0.6) and seeing if the problem is fixed.
 
 If not, do you have a MWE?
 
 Scott

Thanks Scott,

It turned out to be a Memoir thing at a lower level than LyX, and  I
worked around it by commenting out four statements whose purpose I long
ago forgot.

Upgrading an app beyond what comes with the distro (Xubuntu 12.10 in
this case) is a last resort in my life. Distros are kind of like a
Chinese puzzle, and if you upgrade an app, a lot of times you need to
upgrade a dependency, and that breaks other things...

I never upgrade as a diagnostic test, but only if:

1) I'm sure it will fix it (known problem with my version, etc), or
2) I want the new version anyway (probably because of enhanced features)

So far the LyX that ships with Xubuntu 12.10 looks like it's working
just fine. All my eBooks compile on it, although I had to do a little
fancy footwork with makeindex, which I'll discuss in a separate email.

So, if anyone's using Memoir and things stop working when you upgrade,
it might be as simple as commenting out stuff with the word cleared
in it.

Thanks

SteveT

How to compile with the new texmf

[Steve Litt]

Hi all,

I'll relate this to you, because it might happen to you...

I use scripts to personalize and compile my eBooks for each order. I
upgraded from Ubuntu 11.10 to Xubuntu 12.10, and one of my books broke.
A little investigation showed that it got to .dvi OK, but then things
went south. Eventually I narrowed it down to a failure in makeindex.

It turns out that now texmf changed so that it defaults to openout_any =
p, which precludes running makeindex on an absolute filename. If you
look around the net, you'll see people suggesting changing openout_any
in texmf.conf, but that's a bad idea for security reasons. Security is
the reason they've adopted the new default.

I finally found the right way to do it. Just before the call to
makeindex, I added these two lines:

TEXMFOUTPUT=/absolute/path/to/temp/files
export TEXMFOUTPUT

In hindsight, an even better way might have been:

TEXMFOUTPUT=/absolute/path/to/temp/files   makeindex

So, if your scripts start breaking and you suspect they're failing on
makeindex, and you get an error message saying something about
openout_any is p, try what I did and it just might fix it.

SteveT

Re: Error on Memoir after Linux upgrade

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:25 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:
 On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:34:28 -0500
 Scott Kostyshak skost...@princeton.edu wrote:

 On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 5:29 AM, Steve Litt
 sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  I googled this thing from here to eternity, and didn't find anything
  helpful. This happened right after I replaced Ubuntu 11.10 with
  Xubuntu 12.10. This book, whose document class is based on Memoir,
  got four error messages like this:
 
  Class memoir Error: The pagestyle 'cleared' is marked as an alias
  page style.

 [clip]

 
  Right now I'm assuming this is caused by either my failure to
  install something, or a change within Memoir. Has anybody run into
  this or do you have an idea of its cause and/or solution?

 Hi Steve,

 What version of LyX are you using? Are you using the LyX Ubuntu PPA?
 http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnUbuntu#toc3
 It might be worth using that (e.g. daily PPA lyx2.0 which is what will
 turn into LyX 2.0.6) and seeing if the problem is fixed.

 If not, do you have a MWE?

 Scott

 Thanks Scott,

 It turned out to be a Memoir thing at a lower level than LyX, and  I
 worked around it by commenting out four statements whose purpose I long
 ago forgot.

Glad you got it fixed.

 Upgrading an app beyond what comes with the distro (Xubuntu 12.10 in
 this case) is a last resort in my life. Distros are kind of like a
 Chinese puzzle, and if you upgrade an app, a lot of times you need to
 upgrade a dependency, and that breaks other things...

 I never upgrade as a diagnostic test, but only if:

 1) I'm sure it will fix it (known problem with my version, etc), or
 2) I want the new version anyway (probably because of enhanced features)

Steve, these are wise words. I sometimes find myself upgrading things
for no reason and sometimes I pay the price. You are right that there
are potential disadvantages to upgrading.

In this case, I think the risk is small if you do what I suggested
(the daily PPA and install lyx2.0) because of two reasons:
1) This should bring in no extra dependencies (I don't think LyX ever
changes dependencies between minor releases)
and
2) Instead of upgrading your LyX, this installs alongside your
existing distribution. Then, to run LyX you can either do 'lyx
yourFile.lyx' (which is what you currently have installed) or 'lyx2.0
yourFile.lyx' (which is the version from the PPA). lyx2.0 also uses a
different home folder by default, ~/.lyx2.0 I think so in theory 'lyx'
should never know the existence of its hopefully more mature older
sibling, 'lyx2.0'. However, although I've found this to be true in
practice, you never know.

Of course, things can always go wrong, especially since the PPAs are
new and although we haven't heard any problems (at all) I don't think
many people have been using them.

Best,

Scott

Re: Hindi typing in ubuntu 12.10

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
 I guess we need some 
 special support like we have for arabic. Are there some special 
 character composition rules we should know about?

Do we really have to reinvent the wheel given that Qt has all this 
information? I understand it would be significant work to break down and 
rebuild our painter on top of Qt, but I also understand it would solve many 
(performance and rendering) problems.

Jürgen

Re: unicode superscripts in the bibliography

[Frédéric Parrenin]

Dear Stefano,

Thank you for your answer.
I followed the Lyx wiki for biber/biblatex but now:
- the references are not formatted, only the shortcut/nickname appears
- there is no bibliography at the end of the document (yes, I inserted the
bibtex bibliography in a comment and the \printbibliography command in ERT).

What is going wrong?

Frédéric Parrenin



2013/1/25 stefano franchi stefano.fran...@gmail.com

 Frederic,

 which bibliography  processor do you use? bibtex does not support unicode
 and I guess it never will. If you want your bibtex files to be
 unicode-encoded, the best solution, in my opinion is to switch to
 biber+biblatex. biber supports unicode fully and lyx can be set to use it
 (in DocumentsSettings). biblatex is not completely supported in LyX yet,
 but it is usabel if you follow the instructions in the wiki.

 Cheers,

 Stefano


 On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 4:55 AM, Frédéric Parrenin 
 parre...@ujf-grenoble.fr wrote:

 Dear all,


 I use my bibtex database both with LibreOffice (using jabref and the OO
 plugin) and Lyx.
 For superscript/subscript characters, I use unicode encoding since it is
 the only way jabref and its OO plugin can process them.

 Problem is that now, I get some errors when using these references in
 Lyx, for example:

 using δ¹

 ⁸o of atmospheric oxygen measurements.

 I've inserted a begin-math/end-math symbol since I think

 you left one out. Proceed, with fingers crossed.


 Do you know if there is a solution for this problem (apart from creating
 double entries, one with unicode and one with latex coding)?

 Best regards,

 Frédéric Parrenin





 --
 __
 Stefano Franchi
 Associate Research Professor
 Department of Hispanic StudiesPh:   +1 (979) 845-2125
 Texas AM University  Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
 College Station, Texas, USA

 stef...@tamu.edu
 http://stefano.cleinias.org

Error on Memoir after Linux upgrade

[Steve Litt]

Hi all,

I googled this thing from here to eternity, and didn't find anything
helpful. This happened right after I replaced Ubuntu 11.10 with Xubuntu
12.10. This book, whose document class is based on Memoir, got four
error messages like this:

Class memoir Error: The pagestyle 'cleared' is marked as an alias page
style.

Here are the four error locations it reported:

\makeevenhead{cleared}{}{}{}

\makeoddhead{cleared}{}{}{}

\makeevenfoot{cleared}{}{\thepage}{}

\makeoddfoot{cleared}{}{\thepage}{}

Right now I'm assuming this is caused by either my failure to install
something, or a change within Memoir. Has anybody run into this or do
you have an idea of its cause and/or solution?

Thanks

SteveT

Re: Hindi typing in ubuntu 12.10

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Hridayesh Gupta wrote:
 Chandas was already installed in my Ubuntu 12.10. I tried Chandas, Sahdeva,
 Nakula, Siddhanta, Sanskrit2003, FreeSans from given list which were
 already installed, as well as some other installed fonts.
 Copied the same text mentioned in that email to try these fonts. not able
 to understand Why this issue.

Do you refer both to the PDF output and the LyX-internal display? I understand 
that the display in the LyX view is broken, but I do not understand why the 
PDF output should be, as long as the LaTeX source preview is correct. 
Did you use

\setmainfont[Script=Devanagari]{Chandas}

in the preamble, while having Use non-TeX fonts checked and having selected 
_no_ particular font from the dropdown boxes?
This setting seems to work for me. However, I cannot read Devanagari, so I 
cannot really judge whether the output is correct.


As far as the LyX view is concerned, the problem comes from the fact that we 
paint character by character, which breaks ligatures. As far as I can see, the 
situation improves if you put the following line in your preferences file in 
~/.lyx (if you do not have a preferences file, do an arbitrary change in 
Tools  Preferences, and it will be generated):

\force_paint_single_char false

You also might need to uncheck Spellcheck continuously in Tools  
Preferences  Language Settings  Spellchecker.

This workaround probably has some disadvantages (else we would not force this 
by default), but I don't remember which.

Jürgen

Re: unicode superscripts in the bibliography

[stefano franchi]

On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 3:37 AM, Frédéric Parrenin parre...@ujf-grenoble.fr
 wrote:

 Dear Stefano,

 Thank you for your answer.
 I followed the Lyx wiki for biber/biblatex but now:
 - the references are not formatted, only the shortcut/nickname appears
 - there is no bibliography at the end of the document (yes, I inserted the
 bibtex bibliography in a comment and the \printbibliography command in ERT).


Most likely, this means that your bibtex processor (which should be biber)
fails to find the bib file with your references or it finds it but somehow
chokes on it. Check the following:

1. you have a line in your preamble (DocumentSettingsLaTeX preamble)
that says:

\addbibresource(/absolute/path/to/my/reference/file.bib}

Notice that the .bib extension is required AND you need the absolute path

2. You have biber selected as bibtex processor in
DocumentSettingsBibliographyProcessor

3. your bibtex file is actually encoded in unicode (UTF8)

If all fails, check the biber log, which you can reach via DocumentLaTeX
loglog type BibTeX
and post it here

Cheers,

Stefano


 What is going wrong?

 Frédéric Parrenin




 2013/1/25 stefano franchi stefano.fran...@gmail.com

 Frederic,

 which bibliography  processor do you use? bibtex does not support unicode
 and I guess it never will. If you want your bibtex files to be
 unicode-encoded, the best solution, in my opinion is to switch to
 biber+biblatex. biber supports unicode fully and lyx can be set to use it
 (in DocumentsSettings). biblatex is not completely supported in LyX yet,
 but it is usabel if you follow the instructions in the wiki.

 Cheers,

 Stefano


 On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 4:55 AM, Frédéric Parrenin 
 parre...@ujf-grenoble.fr wrote:

 Dear all,


 I use my bibtex database both with LibreOffice (using jabref and the OO
 plugin) and Lyx.
 For superscript/subscript characters, I use unicode encoding since it is
 the only way jabref and its OO plugin can process them.

 Problem is that now, I get some errors when using these references in
 Lyx, for example:

 using δ¹

 ⁸o of atmospheric oxygen measurements.

 I've inserted a begin-math/end-math symbol since I think

 you left one out. Proceed, with fingers crossed.


 Do you know if there is a solution for this problem (apart from creating
 double entries, one with unicode and one with latex coding)?

 Best regards,

 Frédéric Parrenin





 --
 __
 Stefano Franchi
 Associate Research Professor
 Department of Hispanic StudiesPh:   +1 (979) 845-2125
 Texas AM University  Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
 College Station, Texas, USA

 stef...@tamu.edu
 http://stefano.cleinias.org





-- 
__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic StudiesPh:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas AM University  Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

stef...@tamu.edu
http://stefano.cleinias.org

Re: Error on Memoir after Linux upgrade

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 5:29 AM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 I googled this thing from here to eternity, and didn't find anything
 helpful. This happened right after I replaced Ubuntu 11.10 with Xubuntu
 12.10. This book, whose document class is based on Memoir, got four
 error messages like this:

 Class memoir Error: The pagestyle 'cleared' is marked as an alias page
 style.

 Here are the four error locations it reported:

 \makeevenhead{cleared}{}{}{}

 \makeoddhead{cleared}{}{}{}

 \makeevenfoot{cleared}{}{\thepage}{}

 \makeoddfoot{cleared}{}{\thepage}{}

 Right now I'm assuming this is caused by either my failure to install
 something, or a change within Memoir. Has anybody run into this or do
 you have an idea of its cause and/or solution?

Hi Steve,

What version of LyX are you using? Are you using the LyX Ubuntu PPA?
http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnUbuntu#toc3
It might be worth using that (e.g. daily PPA lyx2.0 which is what will
turn into LyX 2.0.6) and seeing if the problem is fixed.

If not, do you have a MWE?

Scott

Re: Error on Memoir after Linux upgrade WORKAROUND

[Steve Litt]

On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 05:29:25 -0500
Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I googled this thing from here to eternity, and didn't find anything
 helpful. This happened right after I replaced Ubuntu 11.10 with
 Xubuntu 12.10. This book, whose document class is based on Memoir,
 got four error messages like this:
 
 Class memoir Error: The pagestyle 'cleared' is marked as an alias page
 style.
 
 Here are the four error locations it reported:
 
 \makeevenhead{cleared}{}{}{}
 
 \makeoddhead{cleared}{}{}{}
 
 \makeevenfoot{cleared}{}{\thepage}{}
 
 \makeoddfoot{cleared}{}{\thepage}{}
 
 Right now I'm assuming this is caused by either my failure to install
 something, or a change within Memoir. Has anybody run into this or do
 you have an idea of its cause and/or solution?


My layout file had 

\makeevenhead{cleared}{}{}{}
\makeoddhead{cleared}{}{}{}
\makeevenfoot{cleared}{}{\thepage}{}
\makeoddfoot{cleared}{}{\thepage}{}

I commented those out, the problem went away, and I couldn't see any
side effects. Memoir docs are so sparse I don't know what the purpose
of those four lines were, but everything appears OK now.

Thanks

SteveT

Re: Error on Memoir after Linux upgrade

[Steve Litt]

On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:34:28 -0500
Scott Kostyshak skost...@princeton.edu wrote:

 On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 5:29 AM, Steve Litt
 sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  I googled this thing from here to eternity, and didn't find anything
  helpful. This happened right after I replaced Ubuntu 11.10 with
  Xubuntu 12.10. This book, whose document class is based on Memoir,
  got four error messages like this:
 
  Class memoir Error: The pagestyle 'cleared' is marked as an alias
  page style.

[clip]

 
  Right now I'm assuming this is caused by either my failure to
  install something, or a change within Memoir. Has anybody run into
  this or do you have an idea of its cause and/or solution?
 
 Hi Steve,
 
 What version of LyX are you using? Are you using the LyX Ubuntu PPA?
 http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnUbuntu#toc3
 It might be worth using that (e.g. daily PPA lyx2.0 which is what will
 turn into LyX 2.0.6) and seeing if the problem is fixed.
 
 If not, do you have a MWE?
 
 Scott

Thanks Scott,

It turned out to be a Memoir thing at a lower level than LyX, and  I
worked around it by commenting out four statements whose purpose I long
ago forgot.

Upgrading an app beyond what comes with the distro (Xubuntu 12.10 in
this case) is a last resort in my life. Distros are kind of like a
Chinese puzzle, and if you upgrade an app, a lot of times you need to
upgrade a dependency, and that breaks other things...

I never upgrade as a diagnostic test, but only if:

1) I'm sure it will fix it (known problem with my version, etc), or
2) I want the new version anyway (probably because of enhanced features)

So far the LyX that ships with Xubuntu 12.10 looks like it's working
just fine. All my eBooks compile on it, although I had to do a little
fancy footwork with makeindex, which I'll discuss in a separate email.

So, if anyone's using Memoir and things stop working when you upgrade,
it might be as simple as commenting out stuff with the word cleared
in it.

Thanks

SteveT

How to compile with the new texmf

[Steve Litt]

Hi all,

I'll relate this to you, because it might happen to you...

I use scripts to personalize and compile my eBooks for each order. I
upgraded from Ubuntu 11.10 to Xubuntu 12.10, and one of my books broke.
A little investigation showed that it got to .dvi OK, but then things
went south. Eventually I narrowed it down to a failure in makeindex.

It turns out that now texmf changed so that it defaults to openout_any =
p, which precludes running makeindex on an absolute filename. If you
look around the net, you'll see people suggesting changing openout_any
in texmf.conf, but that's a bad idea for security reasons. Security is
the reason they've adopted the new default.

I finally found the right way to do it. Just before the call to
makeindex, I added these two lines:

TEXMFOUTPUT=/absolute/path/to/temp/files
export TEXMFOUTPUT

In hindsight, an even better way might have been:

TEXMFOUTPUT=/absolute/path/to/temp/files   makeindex

So, if your scripts start breaking and you suspect they're failing on
makeindex, and you get an error message saying something about
openout_any is p, try what I did and it just might fix it.

SteveT

Re: Error on Memoir after Linux upgrade

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:25 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:
 On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:34:28 -0500
 Scott Kostyshak skost...@princeton.edu wrote:

 On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 5:29 AM, Steve Litt
 sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  I googled this thing from here to eternity, and didn't find anything
  helpful. This happened right after I replaced Ubuntu 11.10 with
  Xubuntu 12.10. This book, whose document class is based on Memoir,
  got four error messages like this:
 
  Class memoir Error: The pagestyle 'cleared' is marked as an alias
  page style.

 [clip]

 
  Right now I'm assuming this is caused by either my failure to
  install something, or a change within Memoir. Has anybody run into
  this or do you have an idea of its cause and/or solution?

 Hi Steve,

 What version of LyX are you using? Are you using the LyX Ubuntu PPA?
 http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnUbuntu#toc3
 It might be worth using that (e.g. daily PPA lyx2.0 which is what will
 turn into LyX 2.0.6) and seeing if the problem is fixed.

 If not, do you have a MWE?

 Scott

 Thanks Scott,

 It turned out to be a Memoir thing at a lower level than LyX, and  I
 worked around it by commenting out four statements whose purpose I long
 ago forgot.

Glad you got it fixed.

 Upgrading an app beyond what comes with the distro (Xubuntu 12.10 in
 this case) is a last resort in my life. Distros are kind of like a
 Chinese puzzle, and if you upgrade an app, a lot of times you need to
 upgrade a dependency, and that breaks other things...

 I never upgrade as a diagnostic test, but only if:

 1) I'm sure it will fix it (known problem with my version, etc), or
 2) I want the new version anyway (probably because of enhanced features)

Steve, these are wise words. I sometimes find myself upgrading things
for no reason and sometimes I pay the price. You are right that there
are potential disadvantages to upgrading.

In this case, I think the risk is small if you do what I suggested
(the daily PPA and install lyx2.0) because of two reasons:
1) This should bring in no extra dependencies (I don't think LyX ever
changes dependencies between minor releases)
and
2) Instead of upgrading your LyX, this installs alongside your
existing distribution. Then, to run LyX you can either do 'lyx
yourFile.lyx' (which is what you currently have installed) or 'lyx2.0
yourFile.lyx' (which is the version from the PPA). lyx2.0 also uses a
different home folder by default, ~/.lyx2.0 I think so in theory 'lyx'
should never know the existence of its hopefully more mature older
sibling, 'lyx2.0'. However, although I've found this to be true in
practice, you never know.

Of course, things can always go wrong, especially since the PPAs are
new and although we haven't heard any problems (at all) I don't think
many people have been using them.

Best,

Scott

Re: Hindi typing in ubuntu 12.10

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> I guess we need some 
> special support like we have for arabic. Are there some special 
> character composition rules we should know about?

Do we really have to reinvent the wheel given that Qt has all this 
information? I understand it would be significant work to break down and 
rebuild our painter on top of Qt, but I also understand it would solve many 
(performance and rendering) problems.

Jürgen

Re: unicode superscripts in the bibliography

[Frédéric Parrenin]

Dear Stefano,

Thank you for your answer.
I followed the Lyx wiki for biber/biblatex but now:
- the references are not formatted, only the shortcut/nickname appears
- there is no bibliography at the end of the document (yes, I inserted the
bibtex bibliography in a comment and the \printbibliography command in ERT).

What is going wrong?

Frédéric Parrenin



2013/1/25 stefano franchi 

> Frederic,
>
> which bibliography  processor do you use? bibtex does not support unicode
> and I guess it never will. If you want your bibtex files to be
> unicode-encoded, the best solution, in my opinion is to switch to
> biber+biblatex. biber supports unicode fully and lyx can be set to use it
> (in Documents>>Settings). biblatex is not completely supported in LyX yet,
> but it is usabel if you follow the instructions in the wiki.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Stefano
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 4:55 AM, Frédéric Parrenin <
> parre...@ujf-grenoble.fr> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>>
>> I use my bibtex database both with LibreOffice (using jabref and the OO
>> plugin) and Lyx.
>> For superscript/subscript characters, I use unicode encoding since it is
>> the only way jabref and its OO plugin can process them.
>>
>> Problem is that now, I get some errors when using these references in
>> Lyx, for example:
>>
>> using δ¹
>>
>> ⁸o of atmospheric oxygen measurements.
>>
>> I've inserted a begin-math/end-math symbol since I think
>>
>> you left one out. Proceed, with fingers crossed.
>>
>>
>> Do you know if there is a solution for this problem (apart from creating
>> double entries, one with unicode and one with latex coding)?
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Frédéric Parrenin
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> __
> Stefano Franchi
> Associate Research Professor
> Department of Hispanic StudiesPh:   +1 (979) 845-2125
> Texas A University  Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
> College Station, Texas, USA
>
> stef...@tamu.edu
> http://stefano.cleinias.org
>

Error on Memoir after Linux upgrade

[Steve Litt]

Hi all,

I googled this thing from here to eternity, and didn't find anything
helpful. This happened right after I replaced Ubuntu 11.10 with Xubuntu
12.10. This book, whose document class is based on Memoir, got four
error messages like this:

Class memoir Error: The pagestyle 'cleared' is marked as an alias page
style.

Here are the four error locations it reported:

\makeevenhead{cleared}{}{}{}

\makeoddhead{cleared}{}{}{}

\makeevenfoot{cleared}{}{\thepage}{}

\makeoddfoot{cleared}{}{\thepage}{}

Right now I'm assuming this is caused by either my failure to install
something, or a change within Memoir. Has anybody run into this or do
you have an idea of its cause and/or solution?

Thanks

SteveT

Re: Hindi typing in ubuntu 12.10

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Hridayesh Gupta wrote:
> Chandas was already installed in my Ubuntu 12.10. I tried Chandas, Sahdeva,
> Nakula, Siddhanta, Sanskrit2003, FreeSans from given list which were
> already installed, as well as some other installed fonts.
> Copied the same text mentioned in that email to try these fonts. not able
> to understand Why this issue.

Do you refer both to the PDF output and the LyX-internal display? I understand 
that the display in the LyX view is broken, but I do not understand why the 
PDF output should be, as long as the LaTeX source preview is correct. 
Did you use

\setmainfont[Script=Devanagari]{Chandas}

in the preamble, while having "Use non-TeX fonts" checked and having selected 
_no_ particular font from the dropdown boxes?
This setting seems to work for me. However, I cannot read Devanagari, so I 
cannot really judge whether the output is correct.


As far as the LyX view is concerned, the problem comes from the fact that we 
paint character by character, which breaks ligatures. As far as I can see, the 
situation improves if you put the following line in your preferences file in 
~/.lyx (if you do not have a "preferences" file, do an arbitrary change in 
Tools > Preferences, and it will be generated):

\force_paint_single_char false

You also might need to uncheck "Spellcheck continuously" in Tools > 
Preferences > Language Settings > Spellchecker.

This workaround probably has some disadvantages (else we would not force this 
by default), but I don't remember which.

Jürgen

Re: unicode superscripts in the bibliography

[stefano franchi]

On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 3:37 AM, Frédéric Parrenin  wrote:

> Dear Stefano,
>
> Thank you for your answer.
> I followed the Lyx wiki for biber/biblatex but now:
> - the references are not formatted, only the shortcut/nickname appears
> - there is no bibliography at the end of the document (yes, I inserted the
> bibtex bibliography in a comment and the \printbibliography command in ERT).
>
>
Most likely, this means that your bibtex processor (which should be biber)
fails to find the bib file with your references or it finds it but somehow
chokes on it. Check the following:

1. you have a line in your preamble (Document>>Settings>>LaTeX preamble)
that says:

\addbibresource(/absolute/path/to/my/reference/file.bib}

Notice that the .bib extension is required AND you need the absolute path

2. You have biber selected as bibtex processor in
Document>>Settings>>Bibliography>>Processor

3. your bibtex file is actually encoded in unicode (UTF8)

If all fails, check the biber log, which you can reach via Document>>LaTeX
log>>log type BibTeX
and post it here

Cheers,

Stefano


> What is going wrong?
>
> Frédéric Parrenin
>
>
>
>
> 2013/1/25 stefano franchi 
>
>> Frederic,
>>
>> which bibliography  processor do you use? bibtex does not support unicode
>> and I guess it never will. If you want your bibtex files to be
>> unicode-encoded, the best solution, in my opinion is to switch to
>> biber+biblatex. biber supports unicode fully and lyx can be set to use it
>> (in Documents>>Settings). biblatex is not completely supported in LyX yet,
>> but it is usabel if you follow the instructions in the wiki.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Stefano
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 4:55 AM, Frédéric Parrenin <
>> parre...@ujf-grenoble.fr> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>>
>>> I use my bibtex database both with LibreOffice (using jabref and the OO
>>> plugin) and Lyx.
>>> For superscript/subscript characters, I use unicode encoding since it is
>>> the only way jabref and its OO plugin can process them.
>>>
>>> Problem is that now, I get some errors when using these references in
>>> Lyx, for example:
>>>
>>> using δ¹
>>>
>>> ⁸o of atmospheric oxygen measurements.
>>>
>>> I've inserted a begin-math/end-math symbol since I think
>>>
>>> you left one out. Proceed, with fingers crossed.
>>>
>>>
>>> Do you know if there is a solution for this problem (apart from creating
>>> double entries, one with unicode and one with latex coding)?
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Frédéric Parrenin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> __
>> Stefano Franchi
>> Associate Research Professor
>> Department of Hispanic StudiesPh:   +1 (979) 845-2125
>> Texas A University  Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
>> College Station, Texas, USA
>>
>> stef...@tamu.edu
>> http://stefano.cleinias.org
>>
>
>


-- 
__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic StudiesPh:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas A University  Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

stef...@tamu.edu
http://stefano.cleinias.org

Re: Error on Memoir after Linux upgrade

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 5:29 AM, Steve Litt  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I googled this thing from here to eternity, and didn't find anything
> helpful. This happened right after I replaced Ubuntu 11.10 with Xubuntu
> 12.10. This book, whose document class is based on Memoir, got four
> error messages like this:
>
> Class memoir Error: The pagestyle 'cleared' is marked as an alias page
> style.
>
> Here are the four error locations it reported:
>
> \makeevenhead{cleared}{}{}{}
>
> \makeoddhead{cleared}{}{}{}
>
> \makeevenfoot{cleared}{}{\thepage}{}
>
> \makeoddfoot{cleared}{}{\thepage}{}
>
> Right now I'm assuming this is caused by either my failure to install
> something, or a change within Memoir. Has anybody run into this or do
> you have an idea of its cause and/or solution?

Hi Steve,

What version of LyX are you using? Are you using the LyX Ubuntu PPA?
http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnUbuntu#toc3
It might be worth using that (e.g. daily PPA lyx2.0 which is what will
turn into LyX 2.0.6) and seeing if the problem is fixed.

If not, do you have a MWE?

Scott

Re: Error on Memoir after Linux upgrade

[Steve Litt]

On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 05:29:25 -0500
Steve Litt  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I googled this thing from here to eternity, and didn't find anything
> helpful. This happened right after I replaced Ubuntu 11.10 with
> Xubuntu 12.10. This book, whose document class is based on Memoir,
> got four error messages like this:
> 
> Class memoir Error: The pagestyle 'cleared' is marked as an alias page
> style.
> 
> Here are the four error locations it reported:
> 
> \makeevenhead{cleared}{}{}{}
> 
> \makeoddhead{cleared}{}{}{}
> 
> \makeevenfoot{cleared}{}{\thepage}{}
> 
> \makeoddfoot{cleared}{}{\thepage}{}
> 
> Right now I'm assuming this is caused by either my failure to install
> something, or a change within Memoir. Has anybody run into this or do
> you have an idea of its cause and/or solution?


My layout file had 

\makeevenhead{cleared}{}{}{}
\makeoddhead{cleared}{}{}{}
\makeevenfoot{cleared}{}{\thepage}{}
\makeoddfoot{cleared}{}{\thepage}{}

I commented those out, the problem went away, and I couldn't see any
side effects. Memoir docs are so sparse I don't know what the purpose
of those four lines were, but everything appears OK now.

Thanks

SteveT

Re: Error on Memoir after Linux upgrade

[Steve Litt]

On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:34:28 -0500
Scott Kostyshak  wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 5:29 AM, Steve Litt
>  wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I googled this thing from here to eternity, and didn't find anything
> > helpful. This happened right after I replaced Ubuntu 11.10 with
> > Xubuntu 12.10. This book, whose document class is based on Memoir,
> > got four error messages like this:
> >
> > Class memoir Error: The pagestyle 'cleared' is marked as an alias
> > page style.

[clip]

> >
> > Right now I'm assuming this is caused by either my failure to
> > install something, or a change within Memoir. Has anybody run into
> > this or do you have an idea of its cause and/or solution?
> 
> Hi Steve,
> 
> What version of LyX are you using? Are you using the LyX Ubuntu PPA?
> http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnUbuntu#toc3
> It might be worth using that (e.g. daily PPA lyx2.0 which is what will
> turn into LyX 2.0.6) and seeing if the problem is fixed.
> 
> If not, do you have a MWE?
> 
> Scott

Thanks Scott,

It turned out to be a Memoir thing at a lower level than LyX, and  I
worked around it by commenting out four statements whose purpose I long
ago forgot.

Upgrading an app beyond what comes with the distro (Xubuntu 12.10 in
this case) is a last resort in my life. Distros are kind of like a
Chinese puzzle, and if you upgrade an app, a lot of times you need to
upgrade a dependency, and that breaks other things...

I never upgrade as a diagnostic test, but only if:

1) I'm sure it will fix it (known problem with my version, etc), or
2) I want the new version anyway (probably because of enhanced features)

So far the LyX that ships with Xubuntu 12.10 looks like it's working
just fine. All my eBooks compile on it, although I had to do a little
fancy footwork with makeindex, which I'll discuss in a separate email.

So, if anyone's using Memoir and things stop working when you upgrade,
it might be as simple as commenting out stuff with the word "cleared"
in it.

Thanks

SteveT

How to compile with the new texmf

[Steve Litt]

"Hi all,

I'll relate this to you, because it might happen to you...

I use scripts to personalize and compile my eBooks for each order. I
upgraded from Ubuntu 11.10 to Xubuntu 12.10, and one of my books broke.
A little investigation showed that it got to .dvi OK, but then things
went south. Eventually I narrowed it down to a failure in makeindex.

It turns out that now texmf changed so that it defaults to openout_any =
p, which precludes running makeindex on an absolute filename. If you
look around the net, you'll see people suggesting changing openout_any
in texmf.conf, but that's a bad idea for security reasons. Security is
the reason they've adopted the new default.

I finally found the right way to do it. Just before the call to
makeindex, I added these two lines:

TEXMFOUTPUT=/absolute/path/to/temp/files
export TEXMFOUTPUT

In hindsight, an even better way might have been:

TEXMFOUTPUT=/absolute/path/to/temp/files   makeindex

So, if your scripts start breaking and you suspect they're failing on
makeindex, and you get an error message saying something about
"openout_any is p", try what I did and it just might fix it.

SteveT

Re: Error on Memoir after Linux upgrade

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:25 PM, Steve Litt  wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:34:28 -0500
> Scott Kostyshak  wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 5:29 AM, Steve Litt
>>  wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I googled this thing from here to eternity, and didn't find anything
>> > helpful. This happened right after I replaced Ubuntu 11.10 with
>> > Xubuntu 12.10. This book, whose document class is based on Memoir,
>> > got four error messages like this:
>> >
>> > Class memoir Error: The pagestyle 'cleared' is marked as an alias
>> > page style.
>
> [clip]
>
>> >
>> > Right now I'm assuming this is caused by either my failure to
>> > install something, or a change within Memoir. Has anybody run into
>> > this or do you have an idea of its cause and/or solution?
>>
>> Hi Steve,
>>
>> What version of LyX are you using? Are you using the LyX Ubuntu PPA?
>> http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnUbuntu#toc3
>> It might be worth using that (e.g. daily PPA lyx2.0 which is what will
>> turn into LyX 2.0.6) and seeing if the problem is fixed.
>>
>> If not, do you have a MWE?
>>
>> Scott
>
> Thanks Scott,
>
> It turned out to be a Memoir thing at a lower level than LyX, and  I
> worked around it by commenting out four statements whose purpose I long
> ago forgot.

Glad you got it fixed.

> Upgrading an app beyond what comes with the distro (Xubuntu 12.10 in
> this case) is a last resort in my life. Distros are kind of like a
> Chinese puzzle, and if you upgrade an app, a lot of times you need to
> upgrade a dependency, and that breaks other things...
>
> I never upgrade as a diagnostic test, but only if:
>
> 1) I'm sure it will fix it (known problem with my version, etc), or
> 2) I want the new version anyway (probably because of enhanced features)

Steve, these are wise words. I sometimes find myself upgrading things
for no reason and sometimes I pay the price. You are right that there
are potential disadvantages to upgrading.

In this case, I think the risk is small if you do what I suggested
(the daily PPA and install lyx2.0) because of two reasons:
1) This should bring in no extra dependencies (I don't think LyX ever
changes dependencies between minor releases)
and
2) Instead of upgrading your LyX, this installs alongside your
existing distribution. Then, to run LyX you can either do 'lyx
yourFile.lyx' (which is what you currently have installed) or 'lyx2.0
yourFile.lyx' (which is the version from the PPA). lyx2.0 also uses a
different home folder by default, ~/.lyx2.0 I think so in theory 'lyx'
should never know the existence of its hopefully more mature older
sibling, 'lyx2.0'. However, although I've found this to be true in
practice, you never know.

Of course, things can always go wrong, especially since the PPAs are
new and although we haven't heard any problems (at all) I don't think
many people have been using them.

Best,

Scott