Re: Problems to select text in Lyx 2.1.4 / Ubuntu 16.04

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 05:18:16AM +0200, Liviu Andronic wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 4:04 AM, Scott Kostyshak  wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 03:40:48AM +0200, Liviu Andronic wrote:
> >> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 11:28 PM, Scott Kostyshak  wrote:
> >> > On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 07:04:27AM +, Hermann Josef Eckl wrote:
> >> >> Thank you Liviu for this further explanation. I understand that LyX has 
> >> >> a
> >> >> history of problems with clipoard managers. In the current case this 
> >> >> seems
> >> >> triggered by a buggy version of gpaste, which causes also other 
> >> >> problems.
> >> >> But fortunately, there is an easy solution, if gpaste is replaced by
> >> >> another clipboard manager.
> >> >>
> >> >> I will post this analysis also in the German ubuntuusers-forum, so maybe
> >> >> together we can find the underlying causes of these problems.
> >> >>
> >> >> Yours, Hermann Josef
> >> >
> >> > Note that the clipboard manager CopyQ works very well with LyX.
> >> >
> >>
> >> So does Clipman or Parcellite. Not sure how they interact with Gnome
> >> these days, though.
> >
> > I'm curious, when you retrieve an item in history, do they paste in
> > plain text? For example, make a LyX note, and copy some text and the LyX
> > note, then copy something else, then in Clipman/Parcellite retrieve the
> > previous item (the one with the LyX note) and paste. Does it paste the
> > LyX note?
> >
> If you specifically select an item in Clipman, then all you get is the
> note contents (i.e. plain text). Otherwise, simple copy/paste without
> accessing the clipboard's history results in the LyX Note being
> pasted. Is this different  from CopyQ?

Yes in CopyQ for me when I retrieve an item in history it pastes it as
it would paste it if I did an immediate copy/paste. That is, the LyX
note (and everything else) would be preserved.

You do have to set this up though (i.e. explicitly tell CopyQ to store
the LyX representation of the clipboard). It is reasonable for clipboard
managers to default to only preserving certain formats. Otherwise a lot
of memory is needed.

Scott

> 
> Liviu
> 
> 
> 
> > Scott
> >
> >>
> >> Liviu
> >>
> >>
> >> > Scott
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Am Mon, 13 Jun 2016 08:55:42 +0200 schrieb Liviu Andronic:
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 10:41 PM, Hermann Josef Eckl
> >> >> >  wrote:
> >> >> >> Thank you, Scott and all here.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I have tested now the situation on 4 computers and I can confirm, 
> >> >> >> that
> >> >> >> the gpaste-extension for the GNOME Shell interferes with LyX, so that
> >> >> >> problems in selecting text occur.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> As soon as I remove gpaste LyX works normally. The gpaste extension
> >> >> >> consists of 4 packages: gpaste (this seems to be the gpaste-demon),
> >> >> >> gnome-
> >> >> >> shell-extensions-gpaste (the visible shell extension),
> >> >> >> gir1.2-gpaste-4.0, libgpaste4. I am not sure, whether it is the
> >> >> >> shell-extension, that causes the problems or the underlying
> >> >> >> gpaste-demon.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> It is still strange, that only LyX has those text-selection problems,
> >> >> >> whereas all other programs work normally together with gpaste. Also 
> >> >> >> LyX
> >> >> >> worked fine prior to Ubuntu 16.04. In Debian 8.x gpaste has the 
> >> >> >> version
> >> >> >> 3.14-2, in Ubuntu it has the version 3.18.3-1.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Anyway gpaste causes some other strange problems in Ubuntu 16.04. The
> >> >> >> gpaste-demon seems to trigger an XORG-process which consumes extreme
> >> >> >> amounts of CPU-power. So I would give the advice that gpaste should 
> >> >> >> not
> >> >> >> be used in Ubuntu 16.04; it can be replaced by Clipboard Indicator,
> >> >> >> which can be installed online via the GNOME extensions website.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> > If this can be of any consolation, I've noticed strange interactions
> >> >> > between LyX and clipboard managers in the past:
> >> >> > http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/6780
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Though nothing as critical as you've experienced...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Livu
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Thank you for all the help and best wishes,
> >> >> >> yours, Hermann Josef
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Am Thu, 09 Jun 2016 17:58:35 -0400 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>> On Thu, Jun 09, 2016 at 09:08:16PM +, Hermann Josef Eckl wrote:
> >> >>  Thank you very much, Jean-Marc. It seems, that you gave me an
> >> >>  important hint for the solution of my problem.
> >> >> 
> >> >>  I have installed the "gpaste"-extension for the GNOME Shell, which 
> >> >>  is
> >> >>  provided as a package of Ubuntu 16.04.
> >> >> 
> >> >>  It seems that gpaste has some severe bugs. As soon as I remove it,
> >> >>  the text selection problems in LyX are totally gone. It is a little
> >> >>  bit strange, that this affects only 

Re: Problems to select text in Lyx 2.1.4 / Ubuntu 16.04

[Liviu Andronic]

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 4:04 AM, Scott Kostyshak  wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 03:40:48AM +0200, Liviu Andronic wrote:
>> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 11:28 PM, Scott Kostyshak  wrote:
>> > On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 07:04:27AM +, Hermann Josef Eckl wrote:
>> >> Thank you Liviu for this further explanation. I understand that LyX has a
>> >> history of problems with clipoard managers. In the current case this seems
>> >> triggered by a buggy version of gpaste, which causes also other problems.
>> >> But fortunately, there is an easy solution, if gpaste is replaced by
>> >> another clipboard manager.
>> >>
>> >> I will post this analysis also in the German ubuntuusers-forum, so maybe
>> >> together we can find the underlying causes of these problems.
>> >>
>> >> Yours, Hermann Josef
>> >
>> > Note that the clipboard manager CopyQ works very well with LyX.
>> >
>>
>> So does Clipman or Parcellite. Not sure how they interact with Gnome
>> these days, though.
>
> I'm curious, when you retrieve an item in history, do they paste in
> plain text? For example, make a LyX note, and copy some text and the LyX
> note, then copy something else, then in Clipman/Parcellite retrieve the
> previous item (the one with the LyX note) and paste. Does it paste the
> LyX note?
>
If you specifically select an item in Clipman, then all you get is the
note contents (i.e. plain text). Otherwise, simple copy/paste without
accessing the clipboard's history results in the LyX Note being
pasted. Is this different  from CopyQ?

Liviu



> Scott
>
>>
>> Liviu
>>
>>
>> > Scott
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Am Mon, 13 Jun 2016 08:55:42 +0200 schrieb Liviu Andronic:
>> >>
>> >> > On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 10:41 PM, Hermann Josef Eckl
>> >> >  wrote:
>> >> >> Thank you, Scott and all here.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I have tested now the situation on 4 computers and I can confirm, that
>> >> >> the gpaste-extension for the GNOME Shell interferes with LyX, so that
>> >> >> problems in selecting text occur.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> As soon as I remove gpaste LyX works normally. The gpaste extension
>> >> >> consists of 4 packages: gpaste (this seems to be the gpaste-demon),
>> >> >> gnome-
>> >> >> shell-extensions-gpaste (the visible shell extension),
>> >> >> gir1.2-gpaste-4.0, libgpaste4. I am not sure, whether it is the
>> >> >> shell-extension, that causes the problems or the underlying
>> >> >> gpaste-demon.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It is still strange, that only LyX has those text-selection problems,
>> >> >> whereas all other programs work normally together with gpaste. Also LyX
>> >> >> worked fine prior to Ubuntu 16.04. In Debian 8.x gpaste has the version
>> >> >> 3.14-2, in Ubuntu it has the version 3.18.3-1.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Anyway gpaste causes some other strange problems in Ubuntu 16.04. The
>> >> >> gpaste-demon seems to trigger an XORG-process which consumes extreme
>> >> >> amounts of CPU-power. So I would give the advice that gpaste should not
>> >> >> be used in Ubuntu 16.04; it can be replaced by Clipboard Indicator,
>> >> >> which can be installed online via the GNOME extensions website.
>> >> >>
>> >> > If this can be of any consolation, I've noticed strange interactions
>> >> > between LyX and clipboard managers in the past:
>> >> > http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/6780
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Though nothing as critical as you've experienced...
>> >> >
>> >> > Livu
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> Thank you for all the help and best wishes,
>> >> >> yours, Hermann Josef
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Am Thu, 09 Jun 2016 17:58:35 -0400 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> On Thu, Jun 09, 2016 at 09:08:16PM +, Hermann Josef Eckl wrote:
>> >>  Thank you very much, Jean-Marc. It seems, that you gave me an
>> >>  important hint for the solution of my problem.
>> >> 
>> >>  I have installed the "gpaste"-extension for the GNOME Shell, which is
>> >>  provided as a package of Ubuntu 16.04.
>> >> 
>> >>  It seems that gpaste has some severe bugs. As soon as I remove it,
>> >>  the text selection problems in LyX are totally gone. It is a little
>> >>  bit strange, that this affects only LyX and no other programs.
>> >>  Therefore I never thought, that gpaste could be the cause of this
>> >>  problem. In Debian 8 gpaste works fine with LyX and generally all
>> >>  programs.
>> >> 
>> >>  I will now test the situation on all of my four computers, where I
>> >>  have installed LyX / Ubuntu 16.04. If the removal of gpaste also
>> >>  clears the problems in LyX everywhere, then I think we have found the
>> >>  solution.
>> >> 
>> >>  Thank you so much, with best wishes,
>> >>  Hermann Josef
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Good job figuring out the problem! First, it is not necessarily the
>> >> >>> case that LyX is not to blame. LyX could be the problem, or gpaste
>> >> >>> could be the problem, or other updates due to 16.04 could be 

Re: Exporting to ODF or MS Office ignores any bibliography styles

[Bruce Muirhead]

  From: Scott Kostyshak 
 To: Nikola Ivan Leder  
Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
 Sent: Tuesday, 14 June 2016, 7:01
 Subject: Re: Exporting to ODF or MS Office ignores any bibliography styles
   
On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 08:52:33PM +, Nikola Ivan Leder wrote:
> I am using Lyx to write my thesis and have run into several problems with 
> exporting regarding references.
> 
> I need are numerical references in numbered by order of appearance in the 
> text (not sorted alphabetically) with vancouver style.
> 
> I set this up with natbib and bibtex8 with vancouver style. 
> The export to PDF or DVI via luatex gets me a perfect document, everything 
> else gives me alphabetically ordered references, completely ignoring any 
> changes I make to document/settings/bibliography.
> 
> My bibliography is in .bib made with Jabref.
> 
> 
> I need export to word or ODF so I can copy/paste certain parts of the text 
> to various web forms and such...  as well as for correspondence with my 
> mentor etc..
> 
> Is there any way to "fix" the export function?  
> If I just select all text in the PDF and paste it in a text processor, 
> there is a lot of manual work to get it to look proper.
> 
> thank you in advance!
> 
> P.S.  tried this in Linux and Windows, behavior is exactly the same
> 

You need to read the  pandoc user guide, which should be installed with pandoc, 
or is easily findable with a search.
LyX is not set up to produce bibliographies and references with pandoc. Rather, 
there are specific ways that the references and bibliography have to be set up, 
which means that you need to find and use the appropriate pandoc options.
I've only just commenced looking at this, so I cannot help with detail, except 
to say
1. tex4ht may not be under the most active development, but it continues to 
produce good output for me with citations and bibliography.

2. It seems the easiest way to use pandoc for citations and references (until 
you work out how to modify the LyX command---under preferences>output--- to get 
what you want) is to save as a LaTeX file and run pandoc on the command line.
Bruce




  

Re: Problems to select text in Lyx 2.1.4 / Ubuntu 16.04

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 03:40:48AM +0200, Liviu Andronic wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 11:28 PM, Scott Kostyshak  wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 07:04:27AM +, Hermann Josef Eckl wrote:
> >> Thank you Liviu for this further explanation. I understand that LyX has a
> >> history of problems with clipoard managers. In the current case this seems
> >> triggered by a buggy version of gpaste, which causes also other problems.
> >> But fortunately, there is an easy solution, if gpaste is replaced by
> >> another clipboard manager.
> >>
> >> I will post this analysis also in the German ubuntuusers-forum, so maybe
> >> together we can find the underlying causes of these problems.
> >>
> >> Yours, Hermann Josef
> >
> > Note that the clipboard manager CopyQ works very well with LyX.
> >
> 
> So does Clipman or Parcellite. Not sure how they interact with Gnome
> these days, though.

I'm curious, when you retrieve an item in history, do they paste in
plain text? For example, make a LyX note, and copy some text and the LyX
note, then copy something else, then in Clipman/Parcellite retrieve the
previous item (the one with the LyX note) and paste. Does it paste the
LyX note?

Scott

> 
> Liviu
> 
> 
> > Scott
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Am Mon, 13 Jun 2016 08:55:42 +0200 schrieb Liviu Andronic:
> >>
> >> > On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 10:41 PM, Hermann Josef Eckl
> >> >  wrote:
> >> >> Thank you, Scott and all here.
> >> >>
> >> >> I have tested now the situation on 4 computers and I can confirm, that
> >> >> the gpaste-extension for the GNOME Shell interferes with LyX, so that
> >> >> problems in selecting text occur.
> >> >>
> >> >> As soon as I remove gpaste LyX works normally. The gpaste extension
> >> >> consists of 4 packages: gpaste (this seems to be the gpaste-demon),
> >> >> gnome-
> >> >> shell-extensions-gpaste (the visible shell extension),
> >> >> gir1.2-gpaste-4.0, libgpaste4. I am not sure, whether it is the
> >> >> shell-extension, that causes the problems or the underlying
> >> >> gpaste-demon.
> >> >>
> >> >> It is still strange, that only LyX has those text-selection problems,
> >> >> whereas all other programs work normally together with gpaste. Also LyX
> >> >> worked fine prior to Ubuntu 16.04. In Debian 8.x gpaste has the version
> >> >> 3.14-2, in Ubuntu it has the version 3.18.3-1.
> >> >>
> >> >> Anyway gpaste causes some other strange problems in Ubuntu 16.04. The
> >> >> gpaste-demon seems to trigger an XORG-process which consumes extreme
> >> >> amounts of CPU-power. So I would give the advice that gpaste should not
> >> >> be used in Ubuntu 16.04; it can be replaced by Clipboard Indicator,
> >> >> which can be installed online via the GNOME extensions website.
> >> >>
> >> > If this can be of any consolation, I've noticed strange interactions
> >> > between LyX and clipboard managers in the past:
> >> > http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/6780
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Though nothing as critical as you've experienced...
> >> >
> >> > Livu
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Thank you for all the help and best wishes,
> >> >> yours, Hermann Josef
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Am Thu, 09 Jun 2016 17:58:35 -0400 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:
> >> >>
> >> >>> On Thu, Jun 09, 2016 at 09:08:16PM +, Hermann Josef Eckl wrote:
> >>  Thank you very much, Jean-Marc. It seems, that you gave me an
> >>  important hint for the solution of my problem.
> >> 
> >>  I have installed the "gpaste"-extension for the GNOME Shell, which is
> >>  provided as a package of Ubuntu 16.04.
> >> 
> >>  It seems that gpaste has some severe bugs. As soon as I remove it,
> >>  the text selection problems in LyX are totally gone. It is a little
> >>  bit strange, that this affects only LyX and no other programs.
> >>  Therefore I never thought, that gpaste could be the cause of this
> >>  problem. In Debian 8 gpaste works fine with LyX and generally all
> >>  programs.
> >> 
> >>  I will now test the situation on all of my four computers, where I
> >>  have installed LyX / Ubuntu 16.04. If the removal of gpaste also
> >>  clears the problems in LyX everywhere, then I think we have found the
> >>  solution.
> >> 
> >>  Thank you so much, with best wishes,
> >>  Hermann Josef
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Good job figuring out the problem! First, it is not necessarily the
> >> >>> case that LyX is not to blame. LyX could be the problem, or gpaste
> >> >>> could be the problem, or other updates due to 16.04 could be the
> >> >>> problem. It is hard to say.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Hopefully you can make progress in identifying where the bug comes
> >> >>> from so that you can report it to the right place so that future users
> >> >>> won't have the same issue. I think that would take you a lot of time
> >> >>> though.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Best,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Scott
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >>  Am Thu, 09 Jun 2016 12:22:34 +0200 schrieb Jean-Marc 

Re: Problems to select text in Lyx 2.1.4 / Ubuntu 16.04

[Liviu Andronic]

On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 11:28 PM, Scott Kostyshak  wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 07:04:27AM +, Hermann Josef Eckl wrote:
>> Thank you Liviu for this further explanation. I understand that LyX has a
>> history of problems with clipoard managers. In the current case this seems
>> triggered by a buggy version of gpaste, which causes also other problems.
>> But fortunately, there is an easy solution, if gpaste is replaced by
>> another clipboard manager.
>>
>> I will post this analysis also in the German ubuntuusers-forum, so maybe
>> together we can find the underlying causes of these problems.
>>
>> Yours, Hermann Josef
>
> Note that the clipboard manager CopyQ works very well with LyX.
>

So does Clipman or Parcellite. Not sure how they interact with Gnome
these days, though.

Liviu


> Scott
>
>>
>>
>> Am Mon, 13 Jun 2016 08:55:42 +0200 schrieb Liviu Andronic:
>>
>> > On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 10:41 PM, Hermann Josef Eckl
>> >  wrote:
>> >> Thank you, Scott and all here.
>> >>
>> >> I have tested now the situation on 4 computers and I can confirm, that
>> >> the gpaste-extension for the GNOME Shell interferes with LyX, so that
>> >> problems in selecting text occur.
>> >>
>> >> As soon as I remove gpaste LyX works normally. The gpaste extension
>> >> consists of 4 packages: gpaste (this seems to be the gpaste-demon),
>> >> gnome-
>> >> shell-extensions-gpaste (the visible shell extension),
>> >> gir1.2-gpaste-4.0, libgpaste4. I am not sure, whether it is the
>> >> shell-extension, that causes the problems or the underlying
>> >> gpaste-demon.
>> >>
>> >> It is still strange, that only LyX has those text-selection problems,
>> >> whereas all other programs work normally together with gpaste. Also LyX
>> >> worked fine prior to Ubuntu 16.04. In Debian 8.x gpaste has the version
>> >> 3.14-2, in Ubuntu it has the version 3.18.3-1.
>> >>
>> >> Anyway gpaste causes some other strange problems in Ubuntu 16.04. The
>> >> gpaste-demon seems to trigger an XORG-process which consumes extreme
>> >> amounts of CPU-power. So I would give the advice that gpaste should not
>> >> be used in Ubuntu 16.04; it can be replaced by Clipboard Indicator,
>> >> which can be installed online via the GNOME extensions website.
>> >>
>> > If this can be of any consolation, I've noticed strange interactions
>> > between LyX and clipboard managers in the past:
>> > http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/6780
>> >
>> >
>> > Though nothing as critical as you've experienced...
>> >
>> > Livu
>> >
>> >
>> >> Thank you for all the help and best wishes,
>> >> yours, Hermann Josef
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Am Thu, 09 Jun 2016 17:58:35 -0400 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:
>> >>
>> >>> On Thu, Jun 09, 2016 at 09:08:16PM +, Hermann Josef Eckl wrote:
>>  Thank you very much, Jean-Marc. It seems, that you gave me an
>>  important hint for the solution of my problem.
>> 
>>  I have installed the "gpaste"-extension for the GNOME Shell, which is
>>  provided as a package of Ubuntu 16.04.
>> 
>>  It seems that gpaste has some severe bugs. As soon as I remove it,
>>  the text selection problems in LyX are totally gone. It is a little
>>  bit strange, that this affects only LyX and no other programs.
>>  Therefore I never thought, that gpaste could be the cause of this
>>  problem. In Debian 8 gpaste works fine with LyX and generally all
>>  programs.
>> 
>>  I will now test the situation on all of my four computers, where I
>>  have installed LyX / Ubuntu 16.04. If the removal of gpaste also
>>  clears the problems in LyX everywhere, then I think we have found the
>>  solution.
>> 
>>  Thank you so much, with best wishes,
>>  Hermann Josef
>> >>>
>> >>> Good job figuring out the problem! First, it is not necessarily the
>> >>> case that LyX is not to blame. LyX could be the problem, or gpaste
>> >>> could be the problem, or other updates due to 16.04 could be the
>> >>> problem. It is hard to say.
>> >>>
>> >>> Hopefully you can make progress in identifying where the bug comes
>> >>> from so that you can report it to the right place so that future users
>> >>> won't have the same issue. I think that would take you a lot of time
>> >>> though.
>> >>>
>> >>> Best,
>> >>>
>> >>> Scott
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>>  Am Thu, 09 Jun 2016 12:22:34 +0200 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes:
>> 
>>  > Le 08/06/2016 à 09:06, Hermann J. Eckl a écrit :
>>  >> Currently I have installed Ubuntu 16.04 LTS - and am facing a very
>>  >> strange an annoying problem: I have difficulties to select longer
>>  >> or even shortes pieces of text with the keyboard or mouse.
>>  >
>>  > That seems very strange an annoying indeed.
>>  >
>>  >> If I am trying to select some text, the selection captures only
>>  >> short passages and fails after some words or paragraphs,
>>  >> regardless of whether I am selecting with the mouse or 

Re: Problems to select text in Lyx 2.1.4 / Ubuntu 16.04

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 07:04:27AM +, Hermann Josef Eckl wrote:
> Thank you Liviu for this further explanation. I understand that LyX has a 
> history of problems with clipoard managers. In the current case this seems 
> triggered by a buggy version of gpaste, which causes also other problems. 
> But fortunately, there is an easy solution, if gpaste is replaced by 
> another clipboard manager.
> 
> I will post this analysis also in the German ubuntuusers-forum, so maybe 
> together we can find the underlying causes of these problems.
> 
> Yours, Hermann Josef

Note that the clipboard manager CopyQ works very well with LyX.

Scott

> 
> 
> Am Mon, 13 Jun 2016 08:55:42 +0200 schrieb Liviu Andronic:
> 
> > On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 10:41 PM, Hermann Josef Eckl
> >  wrote:
> >> Thank you, Scott and all here.
> >>
> >> I have tested now the situation on 4 computers and I can confirm, that
> >> the gpaste-extension for the GNOME Shell interferes with LyX, so that
> >> problems in selecting text occur.
> >>
> >> As soon as I remove gpaste LyX works normally. The gpaste extension
> >> consists of 4 packages: gpaste (this seems to be the gpaste-demon),
> >> gnome-
> >> shell-extensions-gpaste (the visible shell extension),
> >> gir1.2-gpaste-4.0, libgpaste4. I am not sure, whether it is the
> >> shell-extension, that causes the problems or the underlying
> >> gpaste-demon.
> >>
> >> It is still strange, that only LyX has those text-selection problems,
> >> whereas all other programs work normally together with gpaste. Also LyX
> >> worked fine prior to Ubuntu 16.04. In Debian 8.x gpaste has the version
> >> 3.14-2, in Ubuntu it has the version 3.18.3-1.
> >>
> >> Anyway gpaste causes some other strange problems in Ubuntu 16.04. The
> >> gpaste-demon seems to trigger an XORG-process which consumes extreme
> >> amounts of CPU-power. So I would give the advice that gpaste should not
> >> be used in Ubuntu 16.04; it can be replaced by Clipboard Indicator,
> >> which can be installed online via the GNOME extensions website.
> >>
> > If this can be of any consolation, I've noticed strange interactions
> > between LyX and clipboard managers in the past:
> > http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/6780
> > 
> > 
> > Though nothing as critical as you've experienced...
> > 
> > Livu
> > 
> > 
> >> Thank you for all the help and best wishes,
> >> yours, Hermann Josef
> >>
> >>
> >> Am Thu, 09 Jun 2016 17:58:35 -0400 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:
> >>
> >>> On Thu, Jun 09, 2016 at 09:08:16PM +, Hermann Josef Eckl wrote:
>  Thank you very much, Jean-Marc. It seems, that you gave me an
>  important hint for the solution of my problem.
> 
>  I have installed the "gpaste"-extension for the GNOME Shell, which is
>  provided as a package of Ubuntu 16.04.
> 
>  It seems that gpaste has some severe bugs. As soon as I remove it,
>  the text selection problems in LyX are totally gone. It is a little
>  bit strange, that this affects only LyX and no other programs.
>  Therefore I never thought, that gpaste could be the cause of this
>  problem. In Debian 8 gpaste works fine with LyX and generally all
>  programs.
> 
>  I will now test the situation on all of my four computers, where I
>  have installed LyX / Ubuntu 16.04. If the removal of gpaste also
>  clears the problems in LyX everywhere, then I think we have found the
>  solution.
> 
>  Thank you so much, with best wishes,
>  Hermann Josef
> >>>
> >>> Good job figuring out the problem! First, it is not necessarily the
> >>> case that LyX is not to blame. LyX could be the problem, or gpaste
> >>> could be the problem, or other updates due to 16.04 could be the
> >>> problem. It is hard to say.
> >>>
> >>> Hopefully you can make progress in identifying where the bug comes
> >>> from so that you can report it to the right place so that future users
> >>> won't have the same issue. I think that would take you a lot of time
> >>> though.
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>>
> >>> Scott
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
>  Am Thu, 09 Jun 2016 12:22:34 +0200 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes:
> 
>  > Le 08/06/2016 à 09:06, Hermann J. Eckl a écrit :
>  >> Currently I have installed Ubuntu 16.04 LTS - and am facing a very
>  >> strange an annoying problem: I have difficulties to select longer
>  >> or even shortes pieces of text with the keyboard or mouse.
>  >
>  > That seems very strange an annoying indeed.
>  >
>  >> If I am trying to select some text, the selection captures only
>  >> short passages and fails after some words or paragraphs,
>  >> regardless of whether I am selecting with the mouse or with
>  >> keyboard shortcuts.
>  >> ALl other programmes (text editor, Libre Office etc.) are working
>  >> correctly and I can select text withput any problems.
>  >
>  > Do you run any utilisty related to clipboard (clipboard manager of
>  > some 

Re: how to instal the Texlive Manager from 'texlive2016-20160523.iso'

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 04:04:32PM +0200, UD wrote:
> I used Scott's script, and it worked perfectly without a hitch on my
> Lubuntu/Cinnamon system.
> This is a great!
> Thanks--
> Ehud Kaplan

Glad you got a solution. By the way your email configuration for some
reason only sends HTML emails. It would be great if you would
additionally send (automatically) a plain text version (let me know if
you want an explanation), as almost everyone does. I'm sure that this
can be configured in Thunderbird.

Best,

Scott

> On 06/13/2016 02:24 PM, Buenas Noticias wrote:
> 
> On 13/06/16 08:22, Buenas Noticias wrote:
> 
> Hi:
> 
> I download the tarball install-tl-unx.tar.gz and:
> 
> tar zxvf install-tl-unx.tar,gz
> 
> cd install-tl-20160523
> 
> su
> 
> pwd
> 
> #./install-tl-20160523 -gui
> 
> tlmgr is a a binary and shall open de interface to install.
> You must
> unistall the 2015 version.
> 
> Greetings
> 
> Miguel from Spain
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/06/16 21:56, UD wrote:
> 
> This is great!  Do you know if it will work in Lubuntu
> (the light-weight
> flavor of Ubuntu)?
> Thanks,
> Ehud Kaplan
> 
> 
> On 06/11/2016 08:14 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 08:17:35AM +0200, Michael
> Berger wrote:
> 
> Dear experts,
> I am a heavy user of LyX under Mageia5 which has
> all the normal TexLive
> stuff but does not provide tlmgr, TeX Live's
> package and configuration
> manager.
> What I am facing now is this 2.9 GiB
> 'texlive2016-20160523.iso - Ark'
> monster in /Home/Downloads.
> 
> 
> After reading all the documentation that came
> along plus some info
> from the
> internet I am more confused than ever and just do
> not know how to
> install
> tlmgr on my system.
> 
> Who would be so kind as to advise me (a person of
> blessed ignorance
> in this
> field) how to do that!?
> I prepared a fresh install of Mageia5 on a
> separate HD that could be
> used
> without damaging my system and data.
> 
> Thanks and cheers,
> Michael
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> If you want tlmgr my guess is you will have to
> install TeX Live
> manually, using install-tl. See here:
> https://www.tug.org/texlive/quickinstall.html
> If you have trouble, the tex-live mailing list is
> very helpful:
> http://lists.tug.org/tex-live
> 
> I have a script that automates everything and makes
> things easy, but it
> only works on Ubuntu. I think it would take a lot of
> work to adapt it to
> Mageia5 but just in case you want to see how
> something in particular is
> done, it is here:
> https://github.com/scottkosty/install-tl-ubuntu
> 
> Best,
> 
> Scott
> 
> 
> --
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Ehud Kaplan, Ph.D.
> Jules and Doris Stein Research to Prevent Blindness Professor
> Director, Center of Excellence for Computational & System neuroscience,
> The Friedman Brain Institute, MSSM
> Director, The laboratory of Visual & Computational Neuroscience
> Depts. of Neuroscience, Ophthalmology, Chemical & Structural Biology
> The Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai
> One Gustave Levy Place
> New York, NY, 10029
> 


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Re: Exporting to ODF or MS Office ignores any bibliography styles

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 08:52:33PM +, Nikola Ivan Leder wrote:
> I am using Lyx to write my thesis and have run into several problems with 
> exporting regarding references.
> 
> I need are numerical references in numbered by order of appearance in the 
> text (not sorted alphabetically) with vancouver style.
> 
> I set this up with natbib and bibtex8 with vancouver style. 
> The export to PDF or DVI via luatex gets me a perfect document, everything 
> else gives me alphabetically ordered references, completely ignoring any 
> changes I make to document/settings/bibliography.
> 
> My bibliography is in .bib made with Jabref.
> 
> 
> I need export to word or ODF so I can copy/paste certain parts of the text 
> to various web forms and such...  as well as for correspondence with my 
> mentor etc..
> 
> Is there any way to "fix" the export function?  
> If I just select all text in the PDF and paste it in a text processor, 
> there is a lot of manual work to get it to look proper.
> 
> thank you in advance!
> 
> P.S.  tried this in Linux and Windows, behavior is exactly the same
> 

Hi Nikola,

I would consider it a miracle if exporting to ODF/Word worked perfectly.
LyX is not actually responsible for the export. LyX just uses other
exporters that you have installed on your machine.

If you happen to be using the newest LyX version, 2.2.0, LyX now
supports exporting to ODF using Pandoc. I have no idea if the export is
better/worse than with tex4ht, but Pandoc is under much more active
development I believe so there is a chance it is better. So you could
try installing LyX 2.2.0 and the newest version of Pandoc.

If you are not using LyX 2.2.0, I would warn you to be careful when
changing from LyX 2.1.x to 2.2.0 at an important time. Make sure you
have time to address unwanted consequences of using a major version
upgrade. If you happen to be on Ubuntu, you can easily use 2.2.0
alongside 2.1.x so they do not interfere with each other. For more
information, see:
https://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnUbuntu#toc3

Best,

Scott

p.s. please respond to the list, and not to me personally


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Exporting to ODF or MS Office ignores any bibliography styles

[Nikola Ivan Leder]

I am using Lyx to write my thesis and have run into several problems with 
exporting regarding references.

I need are numerical references in numbered by order of appearance in the 
text (not sorted alphabetically) with vancouver style.

I set this up with natbib and bibtex8 with vancouver style. 
The export to PDF or DVI via luatex gets me a perfect document, everything 
else gives me alphabetically ordered references, completely ignoring any 
changes I make to document/settings/bibliography.

My bibliography is in .bib made with Jabref.


I need export to word or ODF so I can copy/paste certain parts of the text 
to various web forms and such...  as well as for correspondence with my 
mentor etc..

Is there any way to "fix" the export function?  
If I just select all text in the PDF and paste it in a text processor, 
there is a lot of manual work to get it to look proper.

thank you in advance!

P.S.  tried this in Linux and Windows, behavior is exactly the same

Re: Spacing of LaTeX insert too small

[Rich Shepard]

On Mon, 13 Jun 2016, Guenter Milde wrote:


No. This is a TeX feature: any TeX command "eats up" the following space
unless it is terminated by either \ or {}. I recommend
"... \textrho\texttau\textphi{} is ...".


Günter,

  That's interesting. It's only with the \textphi command that the following
space is dropped. I added an interword space (not a protected space) and
that fixed the appearance.

  In the future, if I see this again I will add braces to the command.

Many thanks,

Rich

Re: Spacing of LaTeX insert too small

[Guenter Milde]

On 2016-06-13, Rich Shepard wrote:

>A KOMA-script Article class document contains three Greek characters in
> the text: \textrho, \texttau, and \textphi. The first two have correct
> spacing before and after the letter, but phi seems to lack that spacing in
> both places where it's included. See the attached .png; the phi is in the
> third row with the word 'is' squashed against its right side. I'll put a
> protected space there, but it might be a glitch that can be corrected in the
> next release.

No. This is a TeX feature: any TeX command "eats up" the following space
unless it is terminated by either \ or {}. I recommend 
"... \textrho\texttau\textphi{} is ...".

(See the source panel (View>Source) for an example how LyX handles this when
converting Unicode characters to LaTeX macros.)

Günter

Spacing of LaTeX insert too small

[Rich Shepard]

  I'm running lyx-2.2.0 on Slackware-14.1.

  A KOMA-script Article class document contains three Greek characters in
the text: \textrho, \texttau, and \textphi. The first two have correct
spacing before and after the letter, but phi seems to lack that spacing in
both places where it's included. See the attached .png; the phi is in the
third row with the word 'is' squashed against its right side. I'll put a
protected space there, but it might be a glitch that can be corrected in the
next release.

Rich

Re: Stop pdflatex

[Richard Heck]

On 06/13/2016 09:26 AM, Jürgen Lange wrote:
> Hello,
> how can I stop the compiler process (pdflatex etc.) in Lyx? TeXworks
> has a start/stop button for the compilation: "Process interrupted by
> user". I want to avoid an appcrash of the compiler caused by faulty
> code (hanging process).

http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/7900

Richard

Re: how to instal the Texlive Manager from 'texlive2016-20160523.iso'

[Kornel Benko]

Am Montag, 13. Juni 2016 um 16:01:58, schrieb Michael Berger 
> 
> On 06/12/2016 09:35 AM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> > On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 09:25:17AM +0200, Michael Berger wrote:
> >>
> >> On 06/11/2016 08:14 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> >>>
> >>> If you want tlmgr my guess is you will have to install TeX Live
> >>> manually, using install-tl. See here:
> >>> https://www.tug.org/texlive/quickinstall.html
> >>> If you have trouble, the tex-live mailing list is very helpful:
> >>> http://lists.tug.org/tex-live
> >>>
> >>> Scott
> >> Dear Scott,
> >> after all my so many attempts I had just decided to give up and simply wait
> >> for better times. But your answer stirs up new hope.
> >> I will be free in a couple of days to attend to your promising ideas and
> >> then report back to you.
> >>
> >> Thanks and cheers!
> >> Michael
> >>
> >> PS: the background is that I asap want to use the great new features of
> >> Lyx2.2, classicthesis4.2, and Komascript2016
> > Sounds like you have a good goal in mind. Best of luck!
> >
> > Scott
> Dear Scott,
> I installed texlive2016 using install-tl (no options used) in 
> /usr/local/texlive/2016 after cleaning it with rm... (it was empty anyway).
> However, I did not remove TexLive2013 as part of Mageia5's standard 
> installation (/usr/share/texmf-dist...).
> 
> The installation run with no errors and completed after 50 minutes 
> greeting me "Welcome to Tex Live!"
> Then I set the path
> PATH=/usr/local/texlive/2016/bin/x86_64-linux:$PATH
> 
> Was it a mistake not to remove texlive2013 first because I cannot call 
> tlmgr? :-(

No mistake.
'tlmgr' should be in your path now as 
'/usr/local/texlive/2016/bin/x86_64-linux/tlmgr'

> How can I test the new texlive2016 installation?

# which latex
should give you /usr/local/texlive/2016/bin/x86_64-linux/latex.

> Michael

Kornel

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Re: how to instal the Texlive Manager from 'texlive2016-20160523.iso'

[UD]

  
  
I used Scott's script, and it worked perfectly without a hitch on my
Lubuntu/Cinnamon system. 
This is a great!
Thanks--
Ehud Kaplan

On 06/13/2016 02:24 PM, Buenas Noticias
  wrote:

On 13/06/16 08:22, Buenas Noticias wrote:
  
  Hi:


I download the tarball install-tl-unx.tar.gz and:


tar zxvf install-tl-unx.tar,gz


cd install-tl-20160523


su


pwd


#./install-tl-20160523 -gui


tlmgr is a a binary and shall open de interface to install. You
must

unistall the 2015 version.


Greetings


Miguel from Spain




On 11/06/16 21:56, UD wrote:

This is great!  Do you know if it will
  work in Lubuntu (the light-weight
  
  flavor of Ubuntu)?
  
  Thanks,
  
  Ehud Kaplan
  
  
  
  On 06/11/2016 08:14 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
  
  On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 08:17:35AM
+0200, Michael Berger wrote:

Dear experts,
  
  I am a heavy user of LyX under Mageia5 which has all the
  normal TexLive
  
  stuff but does not provide tlmgr, TeX Live's package and
  configuration
  
  manager.
  
  What I am facing now is this 2.9 GiB
  'texlive2016-20160523.iso - Ark'
  
  monster in /Home/Downloads.
  

  



  
After reading all the documentation
  that came along plus some info
  
  from the
  
  internet I am more confused than ever and just do not know
  how to
  
  install
  
  tlmgr on my system.
  
  
  Who would be so kind as to advise me (a person of blessed
  ignorance
  
  in this
  
  field) how to do that!?
  
  I prepared a fresh install of Mageia5 on a separate HD
  that could be
  
  used
  
  without damaging my system and data.
  
  
  Thanks and cheers,
  
  Michael
  

Hi Michael,


If you want tlmgr my guess is you will have to install TeX
Live

manually, using install-tl. See here:

https://www.tug.org/texlive/quickinstall.html

If you have trouble, the tex-live mailing list is very
helpful:

http://lists.tug.org/tex-live


I have a script that automates everything and makes things
easy, but it

only works on Ubuntu. I think it would take a lot of work to
adapt it to

Mageia5 but just in case you want to see how something in
particular is

done, it is here:

https://github.com/scottkosty/install-tl-ubuntu


Best,


Scott

  
  
  --
  
  


  
  


-- 
Ehud Kaplan, Ph.D.
Jules and Doris Stein Research to Prevent Blindness Professor
Director, Center of Excellence for Computational & System neuroscience,
The Friedman Brain Institute, MSSM
Director, The laboratory of Visual & Computational Neuroscience
Depts. of Neuroscience, Ophthalmology, Chemical & Structural Biology
The Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai
One Gustave Levy Place
New York, NY, 10029
  

Re: how to instal the Texlive Manager from 'texlive2016-20160523.iso'

[Michael Berger]

On 06/12/2016 09:35 AM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:

On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 09:25:17AM +0200, Michael Berger wrote:


On 06/11/2016 08:14 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:


If you want tlmgr my guess is you will have to install TeX Live
manually, using install-tl. See here:
https://www.tug.org/texlive/quickinstall.html
If you have trouble, the tex-live mailing list is very helpful:
http://lists.tug.org/tex-live

Scott

Dear Scott,
after all my so many attempts I had just decided to give up and simply wait
for better times. But your answer stirs up new hope.
I will be free in a couple of days to attend to your promising ideas and
then report back to you.

Thanks and cheers!
Michael

PS: the background is that I asap want to use the great new features of
Lyx2.2, classicthesis4.2, and Komascript2016

Sounds like you have a good goal in mind. Best of luck!

Scott

Dear Scott,
I installed texlive2016 using install-tl (no options used) in 
/usr/local/texlive/2016 after cleaning it with rm... (it was empty anyway).
However, I did not remove TexLive2013 as part of Mageia5's standard 
installation (/usr/share/texmf-dist...).


The installation run with no errors and completed after 50 minutes 
greeting me "Welcome to Tex Live!"

Then I set the path
PATH=/usr/local/texlive/2016/bin/x86_64-linux:$PATH

Was it a mistake not to remove texlive2013 first because I cannot call 
tlmgr? :-(

How can I test the new texlive2016 installation?

Michael

Stop pdflatex

[Jürgen Lange]

Hello,
how can I stop the compiler process (pdflatex etc.) in Lyx? TeXworks has a  
start/stop button for the compilation: "Process interrupted by user". I  
want to avoid an appcrash of the compiler caused by faulty code (hanging  
process).


Regards
Jürgen

Biblatex in LyX 2.2

[F M Salter]

Hi
In attempting to follow the biblatex instructions on the wiki, I
have run into two problems.  I would very much appreciate a helping hand.

1.  Using the style authoryear produces the required "References"
section heading on the left.
 There is however on each reference page an extra centred
"/references/" page header for which I have no explanation.

How might this be removed?

2. This style introduces  "In:" after the title for both  journal
name and  book titles in the references.
The editorial style calls for a "," between title and a journal
and for "in:" between title and book title.

How might this be achieved?

Regards
Frank Salter

   

Re: how to instal the Texlive Manager from 'texlive2016-20160523.iso'

[Buenas Noticias]

On 13/06/16 08:22, Buenas Noticias wrote:

Hi:

I download the tarball install-tl-unx.tar.gz and:

tar zxvf install-tl-unx.tar,gz

cd install-tl-20160523

su

pwd

#./install-tl-20160523 -gui

tlmgr is a a binary and shall open de interface to install. You must
unistall the 2015 version.

Greetings

Miguel from Spain



On 11/06/16 21:56, UD wrote:

This is great!  Do you know if it will work in Lubuntu (the light-weight
flavor of Ubuntu)?
Thanks,
Ehud Kaplan


On 06/11/2016 08:14 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:

On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 08:17:35AM +0200, Michael Berger wrote:

Dear experts,
I am a heavy user of LyX under Mageia5 which has all the normal TexLive
stuff but does not provide tlmgr, TeX Live's package and configuration
manager.
What I am facing now is this 2.9 GiB 'texlive2016-20160523.iso - Ark'
monster in /Home/Downloads.



After reading all the documentation that came along plus some info
from the
internet I am more confused than ever and just do not know how to
install
tlmgr on my system.

Who would be so kind as to advise me (a person of blessed ignorance
in this
field) how to do that!?
I prepared a fresh install of Mageia5 on a separate HD that could be
used
without damaging my system and data.

Thanks and cheers,
Michael

Hi Michael,

If you want tlmgr my guess is you will have to install TeX Live
manually, using install-tl. See here:
https://www.tug.org/texlive/quickinstall.html
If you have trouble, the tex-live mailing list is very helpful:
http://lists.tug.org/tex-live

I have a script that automates everything and makes things easy, but it
only works on Ubuntu. I think it would take a lot of work to adapt it to
Mageia5 but just in case you want to see how something in particular is
done, it is here:
https://github.com/scottkosty/install-tl-ubuntu

Best,

Scott


--

Re: Problems to select text in Lyx 2.1.4 / Ubuntu 16.04

[Hermann Josef Eckl]

Thank you Liviu for this further explanation. I understand that LyX has a 
history of problems with clipoard managers. In the current case this seems 
triggered by a buggy version of gpaste, which causes also other problems. 
But fortunately, there is an easy solution, if gpaste is replaced by 
another clipboard manager.

I will post this analysis also in the German ubuntuusers-forum, so maybe 
together we can find the underlying causes of these problems.

Yours, Hermann Josef


Am Mon, 13 Jun 2016 08:55:42 +0200 schrieb Liviu Andronic:

> On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 10:41 PM, Hermann Josef Eckl
>  wrote:
>> Thank you, Scott and all here.
>>
>> I have tested now the situation on 4 computers and I can confirm, that
>> the gpaste-extension for the GNOME Shell interferes with LyX, so that
>> problems in selecting text occur.
>>
>> As soon as I remove gpaste LyX works normally. The gpaste extension
>> consists of 4 packages: gpaste (this seems to be the gpaste-demon),
>> gnome-
>> shell-extensions-gpaste (the visible shell extension),
>> gir1.2-gpaste-4.0, libgpaste4. I am not sure, whether it is the
>> shell-extension, that causes the problems or the underlying
>> gpaste-demon.
>>
>> It is still strange, that only LyX has those text-selection problems,
>> whereas all other programs work normally together with gpaste. Also LyX
>> worked fine prior to Ubuntu 16.04. In Debian 8.x gpaste has the version
>> 3.14-2, in Ubuntu it has the version 3.18.3-1.
>>
>> Anyway gpaste causes some other strange problems in Ubuntu 16.04. The
>> gpaste-demon seems to trigger an XORG-process which consumes extreme
>> amounts of CPU-power. So I would give the advice that gpaste should not
>> be used in Ubuntu 16.04; it can be replaced by Clipboard Indicator,
>> which can be installed online via the GNOME extensions website.
>>
> If this can be of any consolation, I've noticed strange interactions
> between LyX and clipboard managers in the past:
> http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/6780
> 
> 
> Though nothing as critical as you've experienced...
> 
> Livu
> 
> 
>> Thank you for all the help and best wishes,
>> yours, Hermann Josef
>>
>>
>> Am Thu, 09 Jun 2016 17:58:35 -0400 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:
>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 09, 2016 at 09:08:16PM +, Hermann Josef Eckl wrote:
 Thank you very much, Jean-Marc. It seems, that you gave me an
 important hint for the solution of my problem.

 I have installed the "gpaste"-extension for the GNOME Shell, which is
 provided as a package of Ubuntu 16.04.

 It seems that gpaste has some severe bugs. As soon as I remove it,
 the text selection problems in LyX are totally gone. It is a little
 bit strange, that this affects only LyX and no other programs.
 Therefore I never thought, that gpaste could be the cause of this
 problem. In Debian 8 gpaste works fine with LyX and generally all
 programs.

 I will now test the situation on all of my four computers, where I
 have installed LyX / Ubuntu 16.04. If the removal of gpaste also
 clears the problems in LyX everywhere, then I think we have found the
 solution.

 Thank you so much, with best wishes,
 Hermann Josef
>>>
>>> Good job figuring out the problem! First, it is not necessarily the
>>> case that LyX is not to blame. LyX could be the problem, or gpaste
>>> could be the problem, or other updates due to 16.04 could be the
>>> problem. It is hard to say.
>>>
>>> Hopefully you can make progress in identifying where the bug comes
>>> from so that you can report it to the right place so that future users
>>> won't have the same issue. I think that would take you a lot of time
>>> though.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>>
>>>
 Am Thu, 09 Jun 2016 12:22:34 +0200 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes:

 > Le 08/06/2016 à 09:06, Hermann J. Eckl a écrit :
 >> Currently I have installed Ubuntu 16.04 LTS - and am facing a very
 >> strange an annoying problem: I have difficulties to select longer
 >> or even shortes pieces of text with the keyboard or mouse.
 >
 > That seems very strange an annoying indeed.
 >
 >> If I am trying to select some text, the selection captures only
 >> short passages and fails after some words or paragraphs,
 >> regardless of whether I am selecting with the mouse or with
 >> keyboard shortcuts.
 >> ALl other programmes (text editor, Libre Office etc.) are working
 >> correctly and I can select text withput any problems.
 >
 > Do you run any utilisty related to clipboard (clipboard manager of
 > some sort)?
 >
 > JMarc



>>

Re: Problems to select text in Lyx 2.1.4 / Ubuntu 16.04

[Liviu Andronic]

On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 10:41 PM, Hermann Josef Eckl
 wrote:
> Thank you, Scott and all here.
>
> I have tested now the situation on 4 computers and I can confirm, that the
> gpaste-extension for the GNOME Shell interferes with LyX, so that problems
> in selecting text occur.
>
> As soon as I remove gpaste LyX works normally. The gpaste extension
> consists of 4 packages: gpaste (this seems to be the gpaste-demon), gnome-
> shell-extensions-gpaste (the visible shell extension), gir1.2-gpaste-4.0,
> libgpaste4. I am not sure, whether it is the shell-extension, that causes
> the problems or the underlying gpaste-demon.
>
> It is still strange, that only LyX has those text-selection problems,
> whereas all other programs work normally together with gpaste. Also LyX
> worked fine prior to Ubuntu 16.04. In Debian 8.x gpaste has the version
> 3.14-2, in Ubuntu it has the version 3.18.3-1.
>
> Anyway gpaste causes some other strange problems in Ubuntu 16.04. The
> gpaste-demon seems to trigger an XORG-process which consumes extreme
> amounts of CPU-power. So I would give the advice that gpaste should not be
> used in Ubuntu 16.04; it can be replaced by Clipboard Indicator, which can
> be installed online via the GNOME extensions website.
>
If this can be of any consolation, I've noticed strange interactions
between LyX and clipboard managers in the past:
http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/6780


Though nothing as critical as you've experienced...

Livu


> Thank you for all the help and best wishes,
> yours, Hermann Josef
>
>
> Am Thu, 09 Jun 2016 17:58:35 -0400 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:
>
>> On Thu, Jun 09, 2016 at 09:08:16PM +, Hermann Josef Eckl wrote:
>>> Thank you very much, Jean-Marc. It seems, that you gave me an important
>>> hint for the solution of my problem.
>>>
>>> I have installed the "gpaste"-extension for the GNOME Shell, which is
>>> provided as a package of Ubuntu 16.04.
>>>
>>> It seems that gpaste has some severe bugs. As soon as I remove it, the
>>> text selection problems in LyX are totally gone. It is a little bit
>>> strange, that this affects only LyX and no other programs. Therefore I
>>> never thought, that gpaste could be the cause of this problem. In
>>> Debian 8 gpaste works fine with LyX and generally all programs.
>>>
>>> I will now test the situation on all of my four computers, where I have
>>> installed LyX / Ubuntu 16.04. If the removal of gpaste also clears the
>>> problems in LyX everywhere, then I think we have found the solution.
>>>
>>> Thank you so much, with best wishes,
>>> Hermann Josef
>>
>> Good job figuring out the problem! First, it is not necessarily the case
>> that LyX is not to blame. LyX could be the problem, or gpaste could be
>> the problem, or other updates due to 16.04 could be the problem. It is
>> hard to say.
>>
>> Hopefully you can make progress in identifying where the bug comes from
>> so that you can report it to the right place so that future users won't
>> have the same issue. I think that would take you a lot of time though.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Am Thu, 09 Jun 2016 12:22:34 +0200 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes:
>>>
>>> > Le 08/06/2016 à 09:06, Hermann J. Eckl a écrit :
>>> >> Currently I have installed Ubuntu 16.04 LTS - and am facing a very
>>> >> strange an annoying problem: I have difficulties to select longer or
>>> >> even shortes pieces of text with the keyboard or mouse.
>>> >
>>> > That seems very strange an annoying indeed.
>>> >
>>> >> If I am trying to select some text, the selection captures only
>>> >> short passages and fails after some words or paragraphs, regardless
>>> >> of whether I am selecting with the mouse or with keyboard shortcuts.
>>> >> ALl other programmes (text editor, Libre Office etc.) are working
>>> >> correctly and I can select text withput any problems.
>>> >
>>> > Do you run any utilisty related to clipboard (clipboard manager of
>>> > some sort)?
>>> >
>>> > JMarc
>>>
>>>
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