Wrong subscript size in small text

[Csikos Bela]

Hello:Inserting subscript into small text results in wrong subscript font size. 
The subscript size is equal to the font size (that is, small). Lyx incorrectly 
insert \small before the subscript text. An example:{\small{}aa 
A}\textsubscript{{\small{}B}}{\small{} bb}{\small\par}.This occurs in 
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centered text's line spacing

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Hello:In  lyx centering text changes line spacing. I can't write centered text 
with the same spacing as the normal text. Centering should not change line 
spacing.  I attach example files (lyx, tex, pdf).bcsikos

centered-text-linespace-lyx-2.3.6.1.lyx
Description: application/lyx
%% LyX 2.3.6.1 created this file.  For more info, see http://www.lyx.org/.
%% Do not edit unless you really know what you are doing.
\documentclass[english]{article}
\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
\usepackage[latin9]{inputenc}
\usepackage{babel}
\begin{document}
Text line, not centered.

Another text line, still not centered.

Third text line not centered.
\begin{center}
This text line is centered.
\par\end{center}

\begin{center}
Second centered text line.
\par\end{center}

\begin{center}
Third centered text line.
\par\end{center}
\end{document}


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Re: old lyx document in lyx 2.3.6 doesn't compile

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On 9/14/22 13:16, Csikos Bela wrote:Hello:I have an old document I made in lyx 
2.0. Lyx 2.3.6.1 opens
is but interprets the code incorrectly and gives compilation
error:In lyx 2.0 the latex code 
is:\selectlanguage{magyar}%\begin{enumerate}[nosep]\inputencoding{latin2}%\item 
Első

item.\inputencoding{latin9}\foreignlanguage{english}{}\\\foreignlanguage{english}{First
 item.
}\selectlanguage{english}%\end{enumerate}Opening the file in lyx 
2.3.6.1 latex code 
is:\selectlanguage{magyar}%\begin{enumerate}[\foreignlanguage{english}{nosep}]\inputencoding{latin2}%\item
 Első

item.\inputencoding{latin9}\foreignlanguage{english}{}\\\foreignlanguage{english}{First
 item.
}\selectlanguage{english}%\end{enumerate}How can I convert or open my 
lyx 2.0 document in lyx 2.3 so
that it would work correctly?I attach the the lyx 2.0 file 
(MWE).Thanks,bcsikosThe problem seems to be that the "nosep" option for the 
enumeration
is in the wrong place. It might be getting crosswise with the
language changes. I got it to compile as follows.I removed the magyar 
option from the line in the preamble that
loads babel. This may not be necessary for you, but on my system
"magyar" is not recognized by babel as a language name.I deleted the 
"enumerate options" inset.I put the cursor at the start of item 1 and hit enter,
temporarily changing the text to item 2.In the new (empty) item 1 
(which has reverted to English), I
used Insert > Enumerate Options to add back the "nosep"
option, then put the cursor after the inset and hit delete to
bring the original text back to item 1.HTH,PaulHello:Adding an option 
to enumitem in lyx 2.3.6. doesn't work if the list item has different language 
than the previous text. It works in lyx 2.0.6. It is a regression. I attach 
lyx, exported latex and compiled pdf files created with lyx 2.0.6 and 
2.3.6.1.bcsikos

enumitem-nosep-lyx2.0.6.lyx
Description: application/lyx
%% LyX 2.0.6 created this file.  For more info, see http://www.lyx.org/.
%% Do not edit unless you really know what you are doing.
\documentclass[ngerman,english]{article}
\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
\usepackage[latin9]{inputenc}

\makeatletter
%% Textclass specific LaTeX commands.
\usepackage{enumitem}		% customizable list environments
\newlength{\lyxlabelwidth}  % auxiliary length 

\makeatother

\usepackage{babel}
\begin{document}
Lyx 2.0.6 customizble items (enumitem)

Normal list:
\selectlanguage{ngerman}%
\begin{enumerate}
\item Normal list, item 1
\item Normal list, item 2
\item Normal list, item 3
\end{enumerate}
\selectlanguage{english}%
List with nosep option:
\selectlanguage{ngerman}%
\begin{enumerate}[nosep]
\item List with nosep, item 1
\item List with nosep, item 2
\item List with nosep, item 3\selectlanguage{english}%
\end{enumerate}

\end{document}


enumitem-nosep-lyx2.0.6.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document


enumitem-nosep-lyx-2.3.6.lyx
Description: application/lyx
%% LyX 2.3.6.1 created this file.  For more info, see http://www.lyx.org/.
%% Do not edit unless you really know what you are doing.
\documentclass[ngerman,english]{article}
\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
\usepackage[latin9]{inputenc}
\usepackage{enumitem}

\makeatletter
%% Textclass specific LaTeX commands.
\newlength{\lyxlabelwidth}  % auxiliary length 

\makeatother

\usepackage{babel}
\begin{document}
Lyx 2.3.6.1 customizable lists (enumitem)

Normal list:
\selectlanguage{ngerman}%
\begin{enumerate}
\item Normal list, item 1
\item Normal list, item 2
\item Normal list, item 3
\end{enumerate}
\selectlanguage{english}%
List with nosep option:
\selectlanguage{ngerman}%
\begin{enumerate}[\foreignlanguage{english}{nosep}]
\item List with nosep, item 1
\item List with nosep, item 2
\item List with nosep, item 3\selectlanguage{english}%
\end{enumerate}

\end{document}


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old lyx document in lyx 2.3.6 doesn't compile

[Csikos Bela]

Hello:I have an old document I made in lyx 2.0. Lyx 2.3.6.1 opens is but 
interprets the code incorrectly and gives compilation error:In lyx 2.0 the 
latex code 
is:\selectlanguage{magyar}%\begin{enumerate}[nosep]\inputencoding{latin2}%\item 
Első 
item.\inputencoding{latin9}\foreignlanguage{english}{}\\\foreignlanguage{english}{First
 item. }\selectlanguage{english}%\end{enumerate}Opening the file in lyx 2.3.6.1 
latex code 
is:\selectlanguage{magyar}%\begin{enumerate}[\foreignlanguage{english}{nosep}]\inputencoding{latin2}%\item
 Első 
item.\inputencoding{latin9}\foreignlanguage{english}{}\\\foreignlanguage{english}{First
 item. }\selectlanguage{english}%\end{enumerate}How can I convert or open my 
lyx 2.0 document in lyx 2.3 so that it would work correctly?I attach the the 
lyx 2.0 file (MWE).Thanks,bcsikos

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superscipt in large fonts

[Csikos Bela via lyx-users]

Hello:

This occurs in lyx 2.3.6.1.

When I add superscript to non-default sized fonts, for example to "larger" 
fonts, the 
superscript text is not scaled correctly, its size is the same as the size of 
the larger font.

How can I add correctly scaled superscript text to non default font sizes?

Thanks,

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Re: change superscript or subscript to normal font

[Csikos Bela]

Kornel Benko  írta:
>Am Tue, 24 Nov 2020 17:01:14 +0100 (CET)
>schrieb Csikos Bela :
>
>> Hello:
>> 
>> Accidentally I changed some text to superscript. How can I change it back to 
>> normal
>> font? I tried to reset all properties in font dialogue but none of them had 
>> the
>> required effect. This is  in lyx 2.0.6 (I know it's old but works for me.)
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> bcsikos
>
>Example file?

I don't see how it can help in this case, but see the attachment example file.

bcsikos


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Re: change superscript or subscript to normal font

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Axel Dessecker  írta:
>Am Dienstag, 24. November 2020, 17:01:14 CET schrieb Csikos Bela:
>> Hello:
>> 
>> Accidentally I changed some text to superscript. How can I change it back to
>> normal font? I tried to reset all properties in font dialogue but none of
>> them had the required effect. This is  in lyx 2.0.6 (I know it's old but
>> works for me.)
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> bcsikos
>
>Béla,
>
>Have a look at the insert -> formatting menu.
>
>Axel

Yes, but what am I supposed to find there?
I don't want to set superscipt, I want to turn superscript off.

Thanks,

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change superscript or subscript to normal font

[Csikos Bela]

Hello:

Accidentally I changed some text to superscript. How can I change it back to 
normal font?
I tried to reset all properties in font dialogue but none of them had the 
required effect.
This is  in lyx 2.0.6 (I know it's old but works for me.)

Thanks,

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Re: copy plain text

[Csikos Bela]

Hello, and thanks again your answer.

"Paul A. Rubin"  írta:

I snipped the content from previous messages.

>The text you are copying from ERT actually has no style attached to it. 
>The style is applied outside the ERT box. So what you are copying is, 
>from LyX's perspective, plain text.

Yes. This is the reason I gave the subject 'copy plain text'.

> I don't think there is a way around 
>that, because I do not believe LyX will let you apply LyX formatting 
>commands (\shape, \size) inside ERT.

My problem is not this.

>If you want the entire LyX table to be large italic, that is easy to do. 
>Rather than applying the format to the text inside the first row, select 
>the entire table and then apply the format to that. Once you've done 
>that, plain text from anywhere that you paste in becomes large and 
>italic.

Is is not correct, and that is my problem. I did exactly what you write
above, and the inserted text becomes plain text, not large italic.
I would expect too what you write, that is, if I apply the format to the whole
table then the newly inserted plain text will be formatted the same.
But it is not. At least not in my lyx 2.3.0. installation.

Thank again,

bcsikos

Re: character replacement in lyx 3.0

[Csikos Bela]

"Jürgen Spitzmüller" <sp...@lyx.org> írta:
>Am Donnerstag, den 03.05.2018, 18:03 +0200 schrieb Csikos Bela:
>> Hello:
>> 
>> In lyx 3.0 when I enter --, lyx shows an en-dash in its user
>> interface, which I don't like.
>> How to set lyx to show the original input (--)?
>
>It's not possible (apart from putting the dashes in ERT).
>
>> (I know that latex replaces -- with en-dash in the pdf output, but in
>> the lyx document file I want to see what I type.)
>
>I can understand that. I still prefer that as well. 
>
>Jürgen

Thanks.

Do you know in which lyx version was this behavior introduced?
The last I used was 2.1.x before 3.0.

bcsikos

Re: copy plain text

[Csikos Bela]

"Paul A. Rubin" <parubi...@gmail.com> írta:
>On 05/03/2018 12:05 PM, Csikos Bela wrote:
>> Hello:
>>
>> This question applies to lyx 3.0.
>>
>> I have some text formatted and entered in ERT. In the same document I 
>> inserted a table and formatted the table font size and shape (to larger 
>> italic) by selecting the whole table and applying the font commands to the 
>> whole selection. This works nicely. Now I would like to replace some text in 
>> the table with text from the ERT so that the formatted table text would keep 
>> its style (size and shape, larger italic). I tried to use different copy 
>> commands but all of them reformats the text in the table to normal size and 
>> shape. How can I keep the table font style (larger italic) when I copy text 
>> into the table from somewhere else? In other words I'd like if the copied 
>> text (into the table) took the style of the fonts already configured in the 
>> table.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> bcsikos
>Could you posted a minimal example of this?
>
Hello:

Here is a mwe.
Lyx table is formatted to have Italic large fonts.
When I copy text into it, the pasted text should be formatted to Italic large 
too.

bcsikos

table-copy-text-mwe-lyx230.lyx
Description: application/lyx

copy plain text

[Csikos Bela]

Hello:

This question applies to lyx 3.0.

I have some text formatted and entered in ERT. In the same document I inserted 
a table and formatted the table font size and shape (to larger italic) by 
selecting the whole table and applying the font commands to the whole 
selection. This works nicely. Now I would like to replace some text in the 
table with text from the ERT so that the formatted table text would keep its 
style (size and shape, larger italic). I tried to use different copy commands 
but all of them reformats the text in the table to normal size and shape. How 
can I keep the table font style (larger italic) when I copy text into the table 
from somewhere else? In other words I'd like if the copied text (into the 
table) took the style of the fonts already configured in the table.

Thanks,

bcsikos

character replacement in lyx 3.0

[Csikos Bela]

Hello:

In lyx 3.0 when I enter --, lyx shows an en-dash in its user interface, which I 
don't like.
How to set lyx to show the original input (--)?

(I know that latex replaces -- with en-dash in the pdf output, but in the lyx 
document file I want to see what I type.)

Thanks,

bcsikos

dotfill in tabbin or tables

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Dear list members:

I would like to make a table looking someting like this:

Article Title
Product . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ID #
Another product . . . . . . . .  ID #
Third product . . . . . . . . . . .ID #

I tried the tabbing environment but I can't make the dotfill
in it.

What would be a good solution?
Using ERT is not a problem if I have to.

Thanks,

bcsikos

dotfill in tabbin or tables

[Csikos Bela]

Dear list members:

I would like to make a table looking someting like this:

Article Title
Product . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ID #
Another product . . . . . . . .  ID #
Third product . . . . . . . . . . .ID #

I tried the tabbing environment but I can't make the dotfill
in it.

What would be a good solution?
Using ERT is not a problem if I have to.

Thanks,

bcsikos

dotfill in tabbin or tables

[Csikos Bela]

Dear list members:

I would like to make a "table" looking someting like this:

Article Title
Product . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ID #
Another product . . . . . . . .  ID #
Third product . . . . . . . . . . .ID #

I tried the tabbing environment but I can't make the dotfill
in it.

What would be a good solution?
Using ERT is not a problem if I have to.

Thanks,

bcsikos

Re: Longtable problem

[Csikos Bela]

Jacob Bishop bisho...@byui.edu írta:
On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Csikos Bela bcsikos...@freemail.hu 
wrote:Hello:

I would like to make a landscape longtable in Lyx.
I#39;d like to make a formal table with header, but I want only one separator 
line between the header and the following row. I attached an example table 
(MWE) in  lyx and the pdf output.

This table has the following problems:

1. On some pages the bottom line of the last row isn#39;t shown, eg. below 
rows I and P.
2. Row A is repeated on every page.
3. Row A has double bottom lines on pages 2 and 3. In table settings all rows 
are set the same: bottom line is on, top line is off; except for the very 
first row which has both top and bottom lines on.

How can I fix these?
The separators go where you tell them to...maybe it will make more sense if I 
try to explain this in the context of your example, and how to fix the 
problems you outlined. I will answer them out of order, though so I hope you 
don#39;t mind.

Thank you for the thorough answer.

2) LyX sets the rows as headers that you tell it to. This is done by going 
into a row, and right-clicking. You can see the row#39;s settings under 
quot;Row Settingsquot; in the longtable tab. In your case, you had both the 
first and second rows set as header rows. When I downloaded your 
example, and deselected the header row checkbox for the second row, it 
only uses the first row as a header. Problem 2 solved.

OK, I see.

3) Once we understand the above, that should help here. The reason you have 
two separator lines is because
 on the header row, you have the row set to have a border below the row.
 So, everywhere the header row appears, it sets a border below. That#39;s why 
 you see a border below for that, and also the border for the row it was 
 displaying anyway. So, remove the 
border below on the the header row, and only use a border above on your 
other rows, and that will fix things.

I think this is not correct, it doesn't explain why I have the double lines. I 
also investigated this in the meantime. Note, that all my rows, except the 
header, have only bottom rule. 
That is, the row following the header has only bottom rule as well, it's top 
rule practically is the bottom rule that belongs to the header. What I think 
that the bottom rule of the last row in the previous page is pushed to the next 
page under the header. I also found that this occurs only when I use formal 
table: it seems booktabs and longtable packages do not work well together. This 
explains why I have only doubles on pages following missing bottom rules in the 
previous page.

1) This one is the most complicated, and it has to do with something about how 
the rows behave. For some reason which makes no sense to me, the page 
breaking behaves such that a row may print the contents on one page, but the 
border below on another (or print the border above on the previous page, but 
the contents on the next).

Yes, this is what I wrote above.

Fortunately, this (strange) behavior can be controlled by manually telling the 
table where to break pages. This is done by right-clicking in a row, and 
within the table settings, selecting the checkbox by quot;Page break on 
current row.quot; That makes the behavior predictable, which is nice. 

Yes, manual page break can prevent pushing the last bottom rule to the next 
page if I specify the previous row for page breaking. 

Thanks again!

bcsikos

natbib with natmove

[Csikos Bela]

Hello:

I would like to load natbib manually in the preamble why keeping the capability 
of using lyx's insert cite options. How can I?

Reason:

The natmove package doesn't work if natbib is loaded by lyx, only if loaded 
manually in the preamble by \usepackage[numbers,super,sortcompress]{natbib}.

Even if I add options super,sortcompress to the class options, natmove doesn't 
work I I let lyx load natbib.

Thanks,

bcsikos

Re: natbib with natmove

[Csikos Bela]

Scott Kostyshak írta:
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Csikos Bela wrote:
 Hello:

 I would like to load natbib manually in the preamble why keeping the 
 capability of using lyx's insert cite options. How can I?

Can you try going to document  settings  Local Layout and putting in there:
Provides natbib 1
Then validate, then OK. Then load natbib yourself.

Scott

Thanks Scott.
It works only partially.
What works: I can use insert citation and can select from citation options.
What doesn't work: Author-year type citation options are shown only (same as 
when natbib style is set to author-year in lyx). I need options for numerical 
natbib style.

bcsikos

Re: natbib with natmove

[Csikos Bela]

Csikos Bela  írta:
Scott Kostyshak írta:
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Csikos Bela wrote:
 Hello:

 I would like to load natbib manually in the preamble why keeping the 
 capability of using lyx's insert cite options. How can I?

Can you try going to document  settings  Local Layout and putting in there:
Provides natbib 1
Then validate, then OK. Then load natbib yourself.

Scott

Thanks Scott.
It works only partially.
What works: I can use insert citation and can select from citation options.
What doesn't work: Author-year type citation options are shown only (same as 
when natbib style is set to author-year in lyx). I need options for numerical 
natbib style.


OK, I found how to make it work.

When local layout is set, Natbib becomes selected in Bibliography settings and 
one can select either Author-year or Numerical style. Selecting numerical 
solves my problem.

Thanks again,

bcsikos

Re: Longtable problem

[Csikos Bela]

Jacob Bishop bisho...@byui.edu írta:
On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Csikos Bela bcsikos...@freemail.hu 
wrote:Hello:

I would like to make a landscape longtable in Lyx.
I#39;d like to make a formal table with header, but I want only one separator 
line between the header and the following row. I attached an example table 
(MWE) in  lyx and the pdf output.

This table has the following problems:

1. On some pages the bottom line of the last row isn#39;t shown, eg. below 
rows I and P.
2. Row A is repeated on every page.
3. Row A has double bottom lines on pages 2 and 3. In table settings all rows 
are set the same: bottom line is on, top line is off; except for the very 
first row which has both top and bottom lines on.

How can I fix these?
The separators go where you tell them to...maybe it will make more sense if I 
try to explain this in the context of your example, and how to fix the 
problems you outlined. I will answer them out of order, though so I hope you 
don#39;t mind.

Thank you for the thorough answer.

2) LyX sets the rows as headers that you tell it to. This is done by going 
into a row, and right-clicking. You can see the row#39;s settings under 
quot;Row Settingsquot; in the longtable tab. In your case, you had both the 
first and second rows set as header rows. When I downloaded your 
example, and deselected the header row checkbox for the second row, it 
only uses the first row as a header. Problem 2 solved.

OK, I see.

3) Once we understand the above, that should help here. The reason you have 
two separator lines is because
 on the header row, you have the row set to have a border below the row.
 So, everywhere the header row appears, it sets a border below. That#39;s why 
 you see a border below for that, and also the border for the row it was 
 displaying anyway. So, remove the 
border below on the the header row, and only use a border above on your 
other rows, and that will fix things.

I think this is not correct, it doesn't explain why I have the double lines. I 
also investigated this in the meantime. Note, that all my rows, except the 
header, have only bottom rule. 
That is, the row following the header has only bottom rule as well, it's top 
rule practically is the bottom rule that belongs to the header. What I think 
that the bottom rule of the last row in the previous page is pushed to the next 
page under the header. I also found that this occurs only when I use formal 
table: it seems booktabs and longtable packages do not work well together. This 
explains why I have only doubles on pages following missing bottom rules in the 
previous page.

1) This one is the most complicated, and it has to do with something about how 
the rows behave. For some reason which makes no sense to me, the page 
breaking behaves such that a row may print the contents on one page, but the 
border below on another (or print the border above on the previous page, but 
the contents on the next).

Yes, this is what I wrote above.

Fortunately, this (strange) behavior can be controlled by manually telling the 
table where to break pages. This is done by right-clicking in a row, and 
within the table settings, selecting the checkbox by quot;Page break on 
current row.quot; That makes the behavior predictable, which is nice. 

Yes, manual page break can prevent pushing the last bottom rule to the next 
page if I specify the previous row for page breaking. 

Thanks again!

bcsikos

natbib with natmove

[Csikos Bela]

Hello:

I would like to load natbib manually in the preamble why keeping the capability 
of using lyx's insert cite options. How can I?

Reason:

The natmove package doesn't work if natbib is loaded by lyx, only if loaded 
manually in the preamble by \usepackage[numbers,super,sortcompress]{natbib}.

Even if I add options super,sortcompress to the class options, natmove doesn't 
work I I let lyx load natbib.

Thanks,

bcsikos

Re: natbib with natmove

[Csikos Bela]

Scott Kostyshak írta:
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Csikos Bela wrote:
 Hello:

 I would like to load natbib manually in the preamble why keeping the 
 capability of using lyx's insert cite options. How can I?

Can you try going to document  settings  Local Layout and putting in there:
Provides natbib 1
Then validate, then OK. Then load natbib yourself.

Scott

Thanks Scott.
It works only partially.
What works: I can use insert citation and can select from citation options.
What doesn't work: Author-year type citation options are shown only (same as 
when natbib style is set to author-year in lyx). I need options for numerical 
natbib style.

bcsikos

Re: natbib with natmove

[Csikos Bela]

Csikos Bela  írta:
Scott Kostyshak írta:
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Csikos Bela wrote:
 Hello:

 I would like to load natbib manually in the preamble why keeping the 
 capability of using lyx's insert cite options. How can I?

Can you try going to document  settings  Local Layout and putting in there:
Provides natbib 1
Then validate, then OK. Then load natbib yourself.

Scott

Thanks Scott.
It works only partially.
What works: I can use insert citation and can select from citation options.
What doesn't work: Author-year type citation options are shown only (same as 
when natbib style is set to author-year in lyx). I need options for numerical 
natbib style.


OK, I found how to make it work.

When local layout is set, Natbib becomes selected in Bibliography settings and 
one can select either Author-year or Numerical style. Selecting numerical 
solves my problem.

Thanks again,

bcsikos

Re: Longtable problem

[Csikos Bela]

Jacob Bishop <bisho...@byui.edu> írta:
>On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Csikos Bela bcsikos...@freemail.hu> 
>wrote:Hello:
>
>I would like to make a landscape longtable in Lyx.
>Id like to make a formal table with header, but I want only one separator 
>line between the header and the following row. I attached an example table 
>(MWE) in  lyx and the pdf output.
>
>This table has the following problems:
>
>1. On some pages the bottom line of the last row isnt shown, eg. below 
>rows I and P.
>2. Row A is repeated on every page.
>3. Row A has double bottom lines on pages 2 and 3. In table settings all rows 
>are set the same: bottom line is on, top line is off; except for the very 
>first row which has both top and bottom lines on.
>
>How can I fix these?
>The separators go where you tell them to...maybe it will make more sense if I 
>try to explain this in the context of your example, and how to fix the 
>problems you outlined. I will answer them out of order, though so I hope you 
>dont mind.

Thank you for the thorough answer.

>2) LyX sets the rows as headers that you tell it to. This is done by going 
>into a row, and right-clicking. You can see the rows settings under 
>Row Settings in the longtable tab. In your case, you had both the 
>first and second rows set as header rows. When I downloaded your 
>example, and deselected the header row checkbox for the second row, it 
>only uses the first row as a header. Problem 2 solved.

OK, I see.

>3) Once we understand the above, that should help here. The reason you have 
>two >separator lines is because
> on the header row, you have the row set to have a border below the row.
> So, everywhere the header row appears, it sets a border below. Thats why 
> you >see a border below for that, and also the border for the row it was 
> displaying anyway. >So, remove the 
>border below on the the header row, and only use a border above on your 
>other rows, and that will fix things.

I think this is not correct, it doesn't explain why I have the double lines. I 
also investigated this in the meantime. Note, that all my rows, except the 
header, have only bottom rule. 
That is, the row following the header has only bottom rule as well, it's top 
rule practically is the bottom rule that belongs to the header. What I think 
that the bottom rule of the last row in the previous page is pushed to the next 
page under the header. I also found that this occurs only when I use formal 
table: it seems booktabs and longtable packages do not work well together. This 
explains why I have only doubles on pages following missing bottom rules in the 
previous page.

>1) This one is the most complicated, and it has to do with something about how 
>the >rows behave. For some reason which makes no sense to me, the page 
>breaking >behaves such that a row may print the contents on one page, but the 
>border below on >another (or print the border above on the previous page, but 
>the contents on the >next).

Yes, this is what I wrote above.

>Fortunately, this (strange) behavior can be controlled by manually telling the 
>table where >to break pages. This is done by right-clicking in a row, and 
>within the table settings, >selecting the checkbox by Page break on 
>current row. That makes the >behavior predictable, which is nice. 

Yes, manual page break can prevent pushing the last bottom rule to the next 
page if I specify the previous row for page breaking. 

Thanks again!

bcsikos

natbib with natmove

[Csikos Bela]

Hello:

I would like to load natbib manually in the preamble why keeping the capability 
of using lyx's insert cite options. How can I?

Reason:

The natmove package doesn't work if natbib is loaded by lyx, only if loaded 
manually in the preamble by \usepackage[numbers,super,sort]{natbib}.

Even if I add options super,sort to the class options, natmove doesn't 
work I I let lyx load natbib.

Thanks,

bcsikos

Re: natbib with natmove

[Csikos Bela]

Scott Kostyshak írta:
>On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Csikos Bela wrote:
>> Hello:
>>
>> I would like to load natbib manually in the preamble why keeping the 
>> capability of using lyx's insert cite options. How can I?
>
>Can you try going to document > settings > Local Layout and putting in there:
>Provides natbib 1
>Then validate, then "OK". Then load natbib yourself.
>
>Scott

Thanks Scott.
It works only partially.
What works: I can use insert citation and can select from citation options.
What doesn't work: Author-year type citation options are shown only (same as 
when natbib style is set to author-year in lyx). I need options for numerical 
natbib style.

bcsikos

Re: natbib with natmove

[Csikos Bela]

Csikos Bela  írta:
>Scott Kostyshak írta:
>>On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Csikos Bela wrote:
>>> Hello:
>>>
>>> I would like to load natbib manually in the preamble why keeping the 
>>> capability of >>>using lyx's insert cite options. How can I?
>>
>>Can you try going to document > settings > Local Layout and putting in there:
>>Provides natbib 1
>>Then validate, then "OK". Then load natbib yourself.
>>
>>Scott
>
>Thanks Scott.
>It works only partially.
>What works: I can use insert citation and can select from citation options.
>What doesn't work: Author-year type citation options are shown only (same as 
>when >natbib style is set to author-year in lyx). I need options for numerical 
>natbib style.
>

OK, I found how to make it work.

When local layout is set, Natbib becomes selected in Bibliography settings and 
one can select either Author-year or Numerical style. Selecting numerical 
solves my problem.

Thanks again,

bcsikos

Re: Change horizontal spaces in lists without extra package

[Csikos Bela]

Guenter Milde írta:
On 2015-03-02, Csikos Bela wrote:

 [-- Type: text/plain, Encoding:  --]

 Hello:

 I would like to change the spaces between text and beginning/ending of
 lists, as well as between list items.

 Based on http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/List_Structures I modified
 list spacing values, but it has only partial effect. The space betweens
 items has changed, but the space between text and list hasn't
 disappeared. I would like to decrease the space between text and list
 beginning/ending to exactly one linespace. 

 I don't want to use enumitem or any other extra package to approach
 this.

 How can I?

You have to read a book about TeX/LaTeX and how lists are structured and
which parameters you can change and how.

Then, try with a test.tex example document.

Then, transfer the knowledge to LyX: you will need to insert preamble
code in DocumentSettingsuser-preamble and code in the document in ERT (raw
LaTeX inserts).


All this is done for you by the LaTeX package authors and LyX module authors.
So it is easier to use a package.

Thanks.
Have you looked at my example files, how I changed preamble code?
Before my posting I also read the document Customizing LATEX lists by
Michel Goossens , Frank Mittelbachy and Alexander Samarinz. I have looked at 
other sources too. What I don't understand why setting \partopsep, \parskip, 
\topsep to zero has no effect. I even don't know which one of these produces 
the extra space.

Thank,

bcsikos

Longtable problem

[Csikos Bela]

Hello:

I would like to make a landscape longtable in Lyx.
I'd like to make a formal table with header, but I want only one separator line 
between the header and the following row. I attached an example table (MWE) in  
lyx and the pdf output.

This table has the following problems:

1. On some pages the bottom line of the last row isn't shown, eg. below rows I 
and P.
2. Row A is repeated on every page.
3. Row A has double bottom lines on pages 2 and 3. In table settings all rows 
are set the same: bottom line is on, top line is off; except for the very first 
row which has both top and bottom lines on.

How can I fix these?

The attached files were made by lyx 2.0.6 in linux.

Thanks,

bcsikos

Longtable-example.lyx
Description: Binary data


Longtable-example.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document

Re: Longtable problem

[Csikos Bela]

Wolfgang Engelmann írta:
   
Am 03.03.2015 um 18:55 schrieb Csikos
  Bela:


  Hello:

I would like to make a landscape longtable in Lyx.
I'd like to make a formal table with header, but I want only one separator 
line between the header and the following row. I attached an example table 
(MWE) in  lyx and the pdf output.

This table has the following problems:

1. On some pages the bottom line of the last row isn't shown, eg. below rows I 
and P.
2. Row A is repeated on every page.
3. Row A has double bottom lines on pages 2 and 3. In table settings all rows 
are set the same: bottom line is on, top line is off; except for the very 
first row which has both top and bottom lines on.

How can I fix these?

The attached files were made by lyx 2.0.6 in linux.

Thanks,

bcsikos


Have
  you should check the tex source (viewlatex source)
  closely? Do you find any cue? 
  \midrule
\textsf{\small{}}
  amp; \textsf{\small{}I  I I
  III II
III
   III  II II} amp;
  \textsf{\small{}I  I I III
  II
III
   III  II II} amp; \textsf{\small{}}
  amp; \textsf{\small{}}\tabularnewline
\midrule
\textsf{\small{}}
  amp; \textsf{\small{}J JJ JJJ JJ J
  JJJ J
J
  JJ JJ} amp; \textsf{\small{}J JJ JJJ
  JJ J JJJ J} amp; \textsf{\small{}} amp;
  \textsf{\small{}}\tabularnewline
\midrule

If I understand correctly the \midrule is moved to the next page beacuse it is 
after \tabularnewline, and it is placed below the header which must be on top. 
Is this correct? Or is it moved because there is not enough room for it on the 
page?

But how can I prevent this? When I make the table in lyx/latex I cannot predict 
how many
rows will fit a page.  I dont't see either how I can fix this. If I remove the 
bottom rule from row I, the duplicated rules won't show above row J. But I 
still won't have the rule below row I. How can I make the bottom rule stuck to 
row I?

Thanks,

bcsikos

Re: Longtable problem

[Csikos Bela]

Csikos Bela írta:
Hello:

I would like to make a landscape longtable in Lyx.
I'd like to make a formal table with header, but I want only one separator 
line between the header and the following row. I attached an example table 
(MWE) in  lyx and the pdf output.

This table has the following problems:

1. On some pages the bottom line of the last row isn't shown, eg. below rows I 
and P.
2. Row A is repeated on every page.

Looking at the source I see that lyx specifies the first two rows as header; 
\endhead is inserted after row A. How can I set lyx to use only the first row 
as header? 

Thanks,

bcsikos

Re: Change horizontal spaces in lists without extra package

[Csikos Bela]

Guenter Milde írta:
On 2015-03-02, Csikos Bela wrote:

 [-- Type: text/plain, Encoding:  --]

 Hello:

 I would like to change the spaces between text and beginning/ending of
 lists, as well as between list items.

 Based on http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/List_Structures I modified
 list spacing values, but it has only partial effect. The space betweens
 items has changed, but the space between text and list hasn't
 disappeared. I would like to decrease the space between text and list
 beginning/ending to exactly one linespace. 

 I don't want to use enumitem or any other extra package to approach
 this.

 How can I?

You have to read a book about TeX/LaTeX and how lists are structured and
which parameters you can change and how.

Then, try with a test.tex example document.

Then, transfer the knowledge to LyX: you will need to insert preamble
code in DocumentSettingsuser-preamble and code in the document in ERT (raw
LaTeX inserts).


All this is done for you by the LaTeX package authors and LyX module authors.
So it is easier to use a package.

Thanks.
Have you looked at my example files, how I changed preamble code?
Before my posting I also read the document Customizing LATEX lists by
Michel Goossens , Frank Mittelbachy and Alexander Samarinz. I have looked at 
other sources too. What I don't understand why setting \partopsep, \parskip, 
\topsep to zero has no effect. I even don't know which one of these produces 
the extra space.

Thank,

bcsikos

Longtable problem

[Csikos Bela]

Hello:

I would like to make a landscape longtable in Lyx.
I'd like to make a formal table with header, but I want only one separator line 
between the header and the following row. I attached an example table (MWE) in  
lyx and the pdf output.

This table has the following problems:

1. On some pages the bottom line of the last row isn't shown, eg. below rows I 
and P.
2. Row A is repeated on every page.
3. Row A has double bottom lines on pages 2 and 3. In table settings all rows 
are set the same: bottom line is on, top line is off; except for the very first 
row which has both top and bottom lines on.

How can I fix these?

The attached files were made by lyx 2.0.6 in linux.

Thanks,

bcsikos

Longtable-example.lyx
Description: Binary data


Longtable-example.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document

Re: Longtable problem

[Csikos Bela]

Wolfgang Engelmann írta:
   
Am 03.03.2015 um 18:55 schrieb Csikos
  Bela:


  Hello:

I would like to make a landscape longtable in Lyx.
I'd like to make a formal table with header, but I want only one separator 
line between the header and the following row. I attached an example table 
(MWE) in  lyx and the pdf output.

This table has the following problems:

1. On some pages the bottom line of the last row isn't shown, eg. below rows I 
and P.
2. Row A is repeated on every page.
3. Row A has double bottom lines on pages 2 and 3. In table settings all rows 
are set the same: bottom line is on, top line is off; except for the very 
first row which has both top and bottom lines on.

How can I fix these?

The attached files were made by lyx 2.0.6 in linux.

Thanks,

bcsikos


Have
  you should check the tex source (viewlatex source)
  closely? Do you find any cue? 
  \midrule
\textsf{\small{}}
  amp; \textsf{\small{}I  I I
  III II
III
   III  II II} amp;
  \textsf{\small{}I  I I III
  II
III
   III  II II} amp; \textsf{\small{}}
  amp; \textsf{\small{}}\tabularnewline
\midrule
\textsf{\small{}}
  amp; \textsf{\small{}J JJ JJJ JJ J
  JJJ J
J
  JJ JJ} amp; \textsf{\small{}J JJ JJJ
  JJ J JJJ J} amp; \textsf{\small{}} amp;
  \textsf{\small{}}\tabularnewline
\midrule

If I understand correctly the \midrule is moved to the next page beacuse it is 
after \tabularnewline, and it is placed below the header which must be on top. 
Is this correct? Or is it moved because there is not enough room for it on the 
page?

But how can I prevent this? When I make the table in lyx/latex I cannot predict 
how many
rows will fit a page.  I dont't see either how I can fix this. If I remove the 
bottom rule from row I, the duplicated rules won't show above row J. But I 
still won't have the rule below row I. How can I make the bottom rule stuck to 
row I?

Thanks,

bcsikos

Re: Longtable problem

[Csikos Bela]

Csikos Bela írta:
Hello:

I would like to make a landscape longtable in Lyx.
I'd like to make a formal table with header, but I want only one separator 
line between the header and the following row. I attached an example table 
(MWE) in  lyx and the pdf output.

This table has the following problems:

1. On some pages the bottom line of the last row isn't shown, eg. below rows I 
and P.
2. Row A is repeated on every page.

Looking at the source I see that lyx specifies the first two rows as header; 
\endhead is inserted after row A. How can I set lyx to use only the first row 
as header? 

Thanks,

bcsikos

Re: Change horizontal spaces in lists without extra package

[Csikos Bela]

Guenter Milde írta:
>On 2015-03-02, Csikos Bela wrote:
>
>> [-- Type: text/plain, Encoding:  --]
>
>> Hello:
>
>> I would like to change the spaces between text and beginning/ending of
>> lists, as well as between list items.
>
>> Based on http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/List_Structures I modified
>> list spacing values, but it has only partial effect. The space betweens
>> items has changed, but the space between text and list hasn't
>> disappeared. I would like to decrease the space between text and list
>> beginning/ending to exactly one linespace. 
>
>> I don't want to use enumitem or any other extra package to approach
>> this.
>
>> How can I?
>
>You have to read a book about TeX/LaTeX and how lists are structured and
>which parameters you can change and how.
>
>Then, try with a "test.tex" example document.
>
>Then, transfer the knowledge to LyX: you will need to insert preamble
>code in Document>Settings>user-preamble and code in the document in ERT (raw
>LaTeX inserts).
>
>
>All this is done for you by the LaTeX package authors and LyX module authors.
>So it is easier to use a package.

Thanks.
Have you looked at my example files, how I changed preamble code?
Before my posting I also read the document "Customizing LATEX lists" by
Michel Goossens , Frank Mittelbachy and Alexander Samarinz. I have looked at 
other sources too. What I don't understand why setting \partopsep, \parskip, 
\topsep to zero has no effect. I even don't know which one of these produces 
the extra space.

Thank,

bcsikos

Longtable problem

[Csikos Bela]

Hello:

I would like to make a landscape longtable in Lyx.
I'd like to make a formal table with header, but I want only one separator line 
between the header and the following row. I attached an example table (MWE) in  
lyx and the pdf output.

This table has the following problems:

1. On some pages the bottom line of the last row isn't shown, eg. below rows I 
and P.
2. Row A is repeated on every page.
3. Row A has double bottom lines on pages 2 and 3. In table settings all rows 
are set the same: bottom line is on, top line is off; except for the very first 
row which has both top and bottom lines on.

How can I fix these?

The attached files were made by lyx 2.0.6 in linux.

Thanks,

bcsikos

Longtable-example.lyx
Description: Binary data


Longtable-example.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document

Re: Longtable problem

[Csikos Bela]

Wolfgang Engelmann írta:
>   
>Am 03.03.2015 um 18:55 schrieb Csikos
>  Bela:
>
>
>  Hello:
>
>I would like to make a landscape longtable in Lyx.
>I'd like to make a formal table with header, but I want only one separator 
>line between the header and the following row. I attached an example table 
>(MWE) in  lyx and the pdf output.
>
>This table has the following problems:
>
>1. On some pages the bottom line of the last row isn't shown, eg. below rows I 
>and P.
>2. Row A is repeated on every page.
>3. Row A has double bottom lines on pages 2 and 3. In table settings all rows 
>are set the same: bottom line is on, top line is off; except for the very 
>first row which has both top and bottom lines on.
>
>How can I fix these?
>
>The attached files were made by lyx 2.0.6 in linux.
>
>Thanks,
>
>bcsikos
>
>
>Have
>  you should check the tex source (>view>latex source)
>  closely? Do you find any cue? 
>  \midrule
>\textsf{\small{}}
>   \textsf{\small{}I  I I
>  III II
>III
>   III  II II} 
>  \textsf{\small{}I  I I III
>  II
>III
>   III  II II}  \textsf{\small{}}
>   \textsf{\small{}}\tabularnewline
>\midrule
>\textsf{\small{}}
>   \textsf{\small{}J JJ JJJ JJ J
>  JJJ J
>J
>  JJ JJ}  \textsf{\small{}J JJ JJJ
>  JJ J JJJ J}  \textsf{\small{}} 
>  \textsf{\small{}}\tabularnewline
>\midrule

If I understand correctly the \midrule is moved to the next page beacuse it is 
after \tabularnewline, and it is placed below the header which must be on top. 
Is this correct? Or is it moved because there is not enough room for it on the 
page?

But how can I prevent this? When I make the table in lyx/latex I cannot predict 
how many
rows will fit a page.  I dont't see either how I can fix this. If I remove the 
bottom rule from row I, the duplicated rules won't show above row J. But I 
still won't have the rule below row I. How can I make the bottom rule stuck to 
row I?

Thanks,

bcsikos

Re: Longtable problem

[Csikos Bela]

Csikos Bela írta:
>Hello:
>
>I would like to make a landscape longtable in Lyx.
>I'd like to make a formal table with header, but I want only one separator 
>line between the header and the following row. I attached an example table 
>(MWE) in  lyx and the pdf output.
>
>This table has the following problems:
>
>1. On some pages the bottom line of the last row isn't shown, eg. below rows I 
>and P.
>2. Row A is repeated on every page.

Looking at the source I see that lyx specifies the first two rows as header; 
\endhead is inserted after row A. How can I set lyx to use only the first row 
as header? 

Thanks,

bcsikos

Change horizontal spaces in lists without extra package

[Csikos Bela]

Hello:

I would like to change the spaces between text and beginning/ending of lists, 
as well as between list items.

Based on http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/List_Structures I modified list 
spacing values, but it has only partial effect. The space betweens items has 
changed, but the space between text and list hasn't disappeared. I would like 
to decrease the space between text and list beginning/ending to exactly one 
linespace. 

I don't want to use enumitem or any other extra package to approach this.

How can I?
Why doesn't the setting in my example's preamble have effect?

I attach an example lyx file and a pdf output.

Thanks,

bcsikos

list-example.lyx
Description: Binary data


list-example.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document

Change horizontal spaces in lists without extra package

[Csikos Bela]

Hello:

I would like to change the spaces between text and beginning/ending of lists, 
as well as between list items.

Based on http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/List_Structures I modified list 
spacing values, but it has only partial effect. The space betweens items has 
changed, but the space between text and list hasn't disappeared. I would like 
to decrease the space between text and list beginning/ending to exactly one 
linespace. 

I don't want to use enumitem or any other extra package to approach this.

How can I?
Why doesn't the setting in my example's preamble have effect?

I attach an example lyx file and a pdf output.

Thanks,

bcsikos

list-example.lyx
Description: Binary data


list-example.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document

Change horizontal spaces in lists without extra package

[Csikos Bela]

Hello:

I would like to change the spaces between text and beginning/ending of lists, 
as well as between list items.

Based on http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/List_Structures I modified list 
spacing values, but it has only partial effect. The space betweens items has 
changed, but the space between text and list hasn't disappeared. I would like 
to decrease the space between text and list beginning/ending to exactly one 
linespace. 

I don't want to use enumitem or any other extra package to approach this.

How can I?
Why doesn't the setting in my example's preamble have effect?

I attach an example lyx file and a pdf output.

Thanks,

bcsikos

list-example.lyx
Description: Binary data


list-example.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document

Re: chemmacros in lyx

[Csikos Bela]

Wolfgang Engelmann írta:
  
Has anybody used chemmacros in lyx and could provide a minimal
example, e.g. for D_2O and the necessary usepackage entrances in the
preamble?

\usepackage{chemmacros}
  there and \chD2O in the text gives this error message:
  ! Undefined control sequence.
  l.1408
... lithium ions \citep{Engelmann1976}.
  
  -
\chD
  2O
  The
control sequence at the end of the top line
  of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have
  misspelled
it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct
  spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue,
  and I'll
forget about whatever was undefined.
  
  Wolfgang
  p.s. would it be difficult to include chemmacros in lyx without
  using ERT?
  


p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }

Wolfgang,

chemmacros is a very nice package. It has detailed documentation, I suggest 
that you read it. In the meantime.

In the preamble you put:

\usepackage{chemmacros}

In the document:

In lyx ERT you write:

\ch{D2O H2O Na+ Cl- NH4+}

That's it.

Regards,

bcsikos

Re: chemmacros in lyx

[Csikos Bela]

Wolfgang Engelmann írta:
  
Has anybody used chemmacros in lyx and could provide a minimal
example, e.g. for D_2O and the necessary usepackage entrances in the
preamble?

\usepackage{chemmacros}
  there and \chD2O in the text gives this error message:
  ! Undefined control sequence.
  l.1408
... lithium ions \citep{Engelmann1976}.
  
  -
\chD
  2O
  The
control sequence at the end of the top line
  of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have
  misspelled
it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct
  spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue,
  and I'll
forget about whatever was undefined.
  
  Wolfgang
  p.s. would it be difficult to include chemmacros in lyx without
  using ERT?
  


p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }

Wolfgang,

chemmacros is a very nice package. It has detailed documentation, I suggest 
that you read it. In the meantime.

In the preamble you put:

\usepackage{chemmacros}

In the document:

In lyx ERT you write:

\ch{D2O H2O Na+ Cl- NH4+}

That's it.

Regards,

bcsikos

Re: chemmacros in lyx

[Csikos Bela]

Wolfgang Engelmann írta:
>  
>Has anybody used chemmacros in lyx and could provide a minimal
>example, e.g. for D_2O and the necessary usepackage entrances in the
>preamble?
>
>\usepackage{chemmacros}
>  there and \chD2O in the text gives this error message:
>  ! Undefined control sequence.
>  l.1408
>... lithium ions \citep{Engelmann1976}.
>  
>  ->
>\chD
>  2O
>  The
>control sequence at the end of the top line
>  of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have
>  misspelled
>it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct
>  spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue,
>  and I'll
>forget about whatever was undefined.
>  
>  Wolfgang
>  p.s. would it be difficult to include chemmacros in lyx without
>  using ERT?
>  
>
>
>p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }

Wolfgang,

chemmacros is a very nice package. It has detailed documentation, I suggest 
that you read it. In the meantime.

In the preamble you put:

\usepackage{chemmacros}

In the document:

In lyx ERT you write:

\ch{D2O H2O Na+ Cl- NH4+}

That's it.

Regards,

bcsikos

Re: Customization manual, 5.1 Installing new LaTeX files, Kubuntu 12.04

[Csikos Bela]

[Long snip]

In my experience it is more straightforward to install complete latex from a 
latex source, e.g. Texlive, than using distribution packages. If you install 
e.g. complete Texlive 2014 you don't have to worry about the several latex 
packages of you distibution, you will have everything. In this case you have to 
forbid installation of distribuiton latex packages disregarding dependency 
error warnings. An example: You have installed Texlive 2014 from Texlive 
source. You also want to install lyx as a distribution package. The package 
manager will say it needs some latex/texlive distribution packages as lyx 
requires them. You have to say no to those dependent packages as Texlive 2014 
install has them already.

Installing Texlive 2014 from Texlive source is quite simple. The easiest way is 
downloading the install program according to your architecture 
(http://tug.org/texlive/), uncompressing, and running the install script: 
either in gui mode or simpe text mode. You can specify where the whole stuff 
should be installed, usually /usr/local/texlive.

If you install Texlive you'll have apa and apa6 latex packages.

Write if you need more specific help.

bcsikos

Re: Customization manual, 5.1 Installing new LaTeX files, Kubuntu 12.04

[Csikos Bela]

[Long snip]

In my experience it is more straightforward to install complete latex from a 
latex source, e.g. Texlive, than using distribution packages. If you install 
e.g. complete Texlive 2014 you don't have to worry about the several latex 
packages of you distibution, you will have everything. In this case you have to 
forbid installation of distribuiton latex packages disregarding dependency 
error warnings. An example: You have installed Texlive 2014 from Texlive 
source. You also want to install lyx as a distribution package. The package 
manager will say it needs some latex/texlive distribution packages as lyx 
requires them. You have to say no to those dependent packages as Texlive 2014 
install has them already.

Installing Texlive 2014 from Texlive source is quite simple. The easiest way is 
downloading the install program according to your architecture 
(http://tug.org/texlive/), uncompressing, and running the install script: 
either in gui mode or simpe text mode. You can specify where the whole stuff 
should be installed, usually /usr/local/texlive.

If you install Texlive you'll have apa and apa6 latex packages.

Write if you need more specific help.

bcsikos

Re: Customization manual, 5.1 Installing new LaTeX files, Kubuntu 12.04

[Csikos Bela]

[Long snip]

In my experience it is more straightforward to install complete latex from a 
latex source, e.g. Texlive, than using distribution packages. If you install 
e.g. complete Texlive 2014 you don't have to worry about the several latex 
packages of you distibution, you will have everything. In this case you have to 
forbid installation of distribuiton latex packages disregarding dependency 
error warnings. An example: You have installed Texlive 2014 from Texlive 
source. You also want to install lyx as a distribution package. The package 
manager will say it needs some latex/texlive distribution packages as lyx 
requires them. You have to say no to those dependent packages as Texlive 2014 
install has them already.

Installing Texlive 2014 from Texlive source is quite simple. The easiest way is 
downloading the install program according to your architecture 
(http://tug.org/texlive/), uncompressing, and running the install script: 
either in gui mode or simpe text mode. You can specify where the whole stuff 
should be installed, usually /usr/local/texlive.

If you install Texlive you'll have apa and apa6 latex packages.

Write if you need more specific help.

bcsikos

Re: Removing a period from BibTeX generated references

[Csikos Bela]

Steve Burnham írta:
I have a BibTeX generated list of references that is doing one entry 
incorrectly. As sen in the attached picture there is a period being placed 
after the question mark. I need to remove this period but am I having 
difficulty doing so. I found this 
solutionhttp://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/181130/remove-question-mark-following-period-for-reference-title-in-pdf-using-vancouveI
 tried to implement it by adding the \killpunct after the question mark in my 
.bib file and then added \newcommand{\killpunct}[1]{} to my preamble. Upon 
compilation I get an error that there is a built in limit of 9 arguments. 
Searching around it seems like there are some fixes to overcome this 
limitation but nothing straightforward and all involve lots of programming in 
LaTeX, which I am not comfortable with. Is there any easy fix to remove the 
offending period?--Steve Burnham

Hello:

I guess the problem is the bst file. It should not add the dot after given 
characters as ? !.
Nevertheless I would check first the database file if the title has as ? or 
?.. If it's the latter correcting it might help.

If the database entry is correct you have two options.

1. Find or create a bst file which makes correct output. makebst (custom-bst ) 
generated bst files never does not have this issue (at least never had it for 
me).

2. Compile the document manually as:
--Export the lyx file as plain latex (tex) file from lyx. Make sure the paths 
for the bst and bib files are correct in the tex file.
--In a console (or dos window) navigate to the directory where the file is 
located.
--run pdflatex on the file (pdflatex filename.tex) This creates a bbl file in 
the directory.
--run bibtex (bibtex filename without extension or bibtex filename.aux.
--In the directory now you should see a file filename.bbl. Look for bbl 
extension.
--Edit the bbl file: search for the incorrect entry and correct it, save the 
edited file.
--Now run again pdflatex filename.tex one, two, or even more time until all 
the citations, references, cross references in the file are inserted correctly.

You can use latex insted of pdflatex if want dvi output.

bcsikos

Re: Removing a period from BibTeX generated references

[Csikos Bela]

Steve Burnham írta:
I have a BibTeX generated list of references that is doing one entry 
incorrectly. As sen in the attached picture there is a period being placed 
after the question mark. I need to remove this period but am I having 
difficulty doing so. I found this 
solutionhttp://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/181130/remove-question-mark-following-period-for-reference-title-in-pdf-using-vancouveI
 tried to implement it by adding the \killpunct after the question mark in my 
.bib file and then added \newcommand{\killpunct}[1]{} to my preamble. Upon 
compilation I get an error that there is a built in limit of 9 arguments. 
Searching around it seems like there are some fixes to overcome this 
limitation but nothing straightforward and all involve lots of programming in 
LaTeX, which I am not comfortable with. Is there any easy fix to remove the 
offending period?--Steve Burnham

Hello:

I guess the problem is the bst file. It should not add the dot after given 
characters as ? !.
Nevertheless I would check first the database file if the title has as ? or 
?.. If it's the latter correcting it might help.

If the database entry is correct you have two options.

1. Find or create a bst file which makes correct output. makebst (custom-bst ) 
generated bst files never does not have this issue (at least never had it for 
me).

2. Compile the document manually as:
--Export the lyx file as plain latex (tex) file from lyx. Make sure the paths 
for the bst and bib files are correct in the tex file.
--In a console (or dos window) navigate to the directory where the file is 
located.
--run pdflatex on the file (pdflatex filename.tex) This creates a bbl file in 
the directory.
--run bibtex (bibtex filename without extension or bibtex filename.aux.
--In the directory now you should see a file filename.bbl. Look for bbl 
extension.
--Edit the bbl file: search for the incorrect entry and correct it, save the 
edited file.
--Now run again pdflatex filename.tex one, two, or even more time until all 
the citations, references, cross references in the file are inserted correctly.

You can use latex insted of pdflatex if want dvi output.

bcsikos

Re: Removing a period from BibTeX generated references

[Csikos Bela]

Steve Burnham írta:
>I have a BibTeX generated list of references that is doing one entry 
>incorrectly. As sen in the attached picture there is a period being placed 
>after the question mark. I need to remove this period but am I having 
>difficulty doing so. I found this 
>solutionhttp://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/181130/remove-question-mark-following-period-for-reference-title-in-pdf-using-vancouveI
> tried to implement it by adding the \killpunct after the question mark in my 
>.bib file and then added \newcommand{\killpunct}[1]{} to my preamble. Upon 
>compilation I get an error that there is a built in limit of 9 arguments. 
>Searching around it seems like there are some fixes to overcome this 
>limitation but nothing straightforward and all involve lots of programming in 
>LaTeX, which I am not comfortable with. Is there any easy fix to remove the 
>offending period?--Steve Burnham

Hello:

I guess the problem is the bst file. It should not add the dot after given 
characters as ? !.
Nevertheless I would check first the database file if the title has as "?" or 
"?.". If it's the latter correcting it might help.

If the database entry is correct you have two options.

1. Find or create a bst file which makes correct output. makebst (custom-bst ) 
generated bst files never does not have this issue (at least never had it for 
me).

2. Compile the document manually as:
--Export the lyx file as plain latex (tex) file from lyx. Make sure the paths 
for the bst and bib files are correct in the tex file.
--In a console (or dos window) navigate to the directory where the file is 
located.
--run pdflatex on the file ("pdflatex filename.tex") This creates a bbl file in 
the directory.
--run bibtex ("bibtex filename" without extension or "bibtex filename.aux".
--In the directory now you should see a file "filename.bbl". Look for bbl 
extension.
--Edit the bbl file: search for the incorrect entry and correct it, save the 
edited file.
--Now run again "pdflatex filename.tex" one, two, or even more time until all 
the citations, references, cross references in the file are inserted correctly.

You can use latex insted of pdflatex if want dvi output.

bcsikos

setting line space in lyx table

[Csikos Bela]

Hello:

How to set or change line spacing in a lyx table? I would like to decrease line 
space between lines in cell, not the space between columns.

Thanks,

bcsikos

Re: setting line space in lyx table

[Csikos Bela]

Csikos Bela bcsikos...@freemail.hu írta:
Hello:

How to set or change line spacing in a lyx table? I would like to decrease 
line space
between lines in cell, not the space between columns.

I wanted to say 'not the line space between rows'.

setting line space in lyx table

[Csikos Bela]

Hello:

How to set or change line spacing in a lyx table? I would like to decrease line 
space between lines in cell, not the space between columns.

Thanks,

bcsikos

Re: setting line space in lyx table

[Csikos Bela]

Csikos Bela bcsikos...@freemail.hu írta:
Hello:

How to set or change line spacing in a lyx table? I would like to decrease 
line space
between lines in cell, not the space between columns.

I wanted to say 'not the line space between rows'.

setting line space in lyx table

[Csikos Bela]

Hello:

How to set or change line spacing in a lyx table? I would like to decrease line 
space between lines in cell, not the space between columns.

Thanks,

bcsikos

Re: setting line space in lyx table

[Csikos Bela]

Csikos Bela <bcsikos...@freemail.hu> írta:
>Hello:
>
>How to set or change line spacing in a lyx table? I would like to decrease 
>line space
>between lines in cell, not the space between columns.

I wanted to say 'not the line space between rows'.

lyx 2.1 subscript and superscript problem

[Csikos Bela]

Hello:

In lyx 2.1 I can not make subscript and superscript work.

In a new file (every setting is default) I type A2, highlight 2, select 
Insert-Formatting-
Superscript (or Subscript) - View document (pdflatex): the character 2 is not 
subscript
or superscript, it is a normal inline character.

In the editor window it is sub- or superscript. In the source pane there is no 
indication of any sub or superscript command, it is simply A2.

What am I missing?

Thanks,

bcsikos

Re: lyx 2.1 subscript and superscript problem

[Csikos Bela]

Csikos Bela bcsikos...@freemail.hu írta:

In lyx 2.1 I can not make subscript and superscript work.

In a new file (every setting is default) I type A2, highlight 2, select 
Insert-Formatting-
Superscript (or Subscript) - View document (pdflatex): the character 2 is not 
subscript
or superscript, it is a normal inline character.

In the editor window it is sub- or superscript. In the source pane there is no 
indication of
any sub or superscript command, it is simply A2.

It was something in the lyx preferences (~/.lyx) folder.
Recreating it solved the problem.

bcsikos

lyx 2.1 subscript and superscript problem

[Csikos Bela]

Hello:

In lyx 2.1 I can not make subscript and superscript work.

In a new file (every setting is default) I type A2, highlight 2, select 
Insert-Formatting-
Superscript (or Subscript) - View document (pdflatex): the character 2 is not 
subscript
or superscript, it is a normal inline character.

In the editor window it is sub- or superscript. In the source pane there is no 
indication of any sub or superscript command, it is simply A2.

What am I missing?

Thanks,

bcsikos

Re: lyx 2.1 subscript and superscript problem

[Csikos Bela]

Csikos Bela bcsikos...@freemail.hu írta:

In lyx 2.1 I can not make subscript and superscript work.

In a new file (every setting is default) I type A2, highlight 2, select 
Insert-Formatting-
Superscript (or Subscript) - View document (pdflatex): the character 2 is not 
subscript
or superscript, it is a normal inline character.

In the editor window it is sub- or superscript. In the source pane there is no 
indication of
any sub or superscript command, it is simply A2.

It was something in the lyx preferences (~/.lyx) folder.
Recreating it solved the problem.

bcsikos

lyx 2.1 subscript and superscript problem

[Csikos Bela]

Hello:

In lyx 2.1 I can not make subscript and superscript work.

In a new file (every setting is default) I type A2, highlight 2, select 
Insert->Formatting->
Superscript (or Subscript) -> View document (pdflatex): the character 2 is not 
subscript
or superscript, it is a normal inline character.

In the editor window it is sub- or superscript. In the source pane there is no 
indication of any sub or superscript command, it is simply A2.

What am I missing?

Thanks,

bcsikos

Re: lyx 2.1 subscript and superscript problem

[Csikos Bela]

Csikos Bela <bcsikos...@freemail.hu> írta:

>In lyx 2.1 I can not make subscript and superscript work.
>
>In a new file (every setting is default) I type A2, highlight 2, select 
>Insert->Formatting->
>Superscript (or Subscript) -> View document (pdflatex): the character 2 is not 
>subscript
>or superscript, it is a normal inline character.
>
>In the editor window it is sub- or superscript. In the source pane there is no 
>indication of
>any sub or superscript command, it is simply A2.

It was something in the lyx preferences (~/.lyx) folder.
Recreating it solved the problem.

bcsikos

Re: Problems with custom modules after upgrade to 2.1.0

[Csikos Bela]

aparsloe apars...@clear.net.nz írta:
On 23/04/2014 5:50 a.m., John Kane

Currently I am
running Ubuntu 13.10 with LyX 2.1.0. I seem to be having

[LONG SNIP]
   
I'm the writer of the ShortInsetNames module. I tried it with
2.1.0beta2 earlier today and it worked. I've now installed 2.1.0 and
it doesn't, but it's easily fixed. Open the module in a text editor
and insert double quotes so that the relevant two lines look like:

Hello:

You both mention lyx 2.1.0. Do you really mean 2.1.0 or would it be 2.1.0rc1?

I don't see reference to 2.1.0 on the lyx site (main page and under recent 
news) and it was not announced in this list either.

bcsikos

Re: Problems with custom modules after upgrade to 2.1.0

[Csikos Bela]

aparsloe apars...@clear.net.nz írta:
On 23/04/2014 5:50 a.m., John Kane

Currently I am
running Ubuntu 13.10 with LyX 2.1.0. I seem to be having

[LONG SNIP]
   
I'm the writer of the ShortInsetNames module. I tried it with
2.1.0beta2 earlier today and it worked. I've now installed 2.1.0 and
it doesn't, but it's easily fixed. Open the module in a text editor
and insert double quotes so that the relevant two lines look like:

Hello:

You both mention lyx 2.1.0. Do you really mean 2.1.0 or would it be 2.1.0rc1?

I don't see reference to 2.1.0 on the lyx site (main page and under recent 
news) and it was not announced in this list either.

bcsikos

Re: Problems with custom modules after upgrade to 2.1.0

[Csikos Bela]

aparsloe  írta:
>On 23/04/2014 5:50 a.m., John Kane
>
>Currently I am
>running Ubuntu 13.10 with LyX 2.1.0. I seem to be having

[LONG SNIP]
   
>I'm the writer of the ShortInsetNames module. I tried it with
>2.1.0beta2 earlier today and it worked. I've now installed 2.1.0 and
>it doesn't, but it's easily fixed. Open the module in a text editor
>and insert double quotes so that the relevant two lines look like:

Hello:

You both mention lyx 2.1.0. Do you really mean 2.1.0 or would it be 2.1.0rc1?

I don't see reference to 2.1.0 on the lyx site (main page and under recent 
news) and it was not announced in this list either.

bcsikos

koma script book (scrbook) class section numbering in lyx 2.0.x and 2.1.0rc1

[Csikos Bela]

Hello:

This is only a report of a misbehavior so that lyx user (and possibly 
developers) would be aware of it.

Lyx (both 2.0.x and 2.1.0rc1) numbers koma book class sections consecutively 
disregarding \frontmatter and \mainmatter.

This results in a difference between section numbers in lyx interface and the 
pdf output.
For example if the document has 2 sections in the front matter and 5 in the 
main matter,
in lyx these are numbered from 1 to 7. In the pdf output the sections in the 
front matter are not numbered and the the sections in the main matter are 
numbered from 1 to 5.
This makes identifying text locations and editing/correcting the text difficult 
occasionally.

bcsikos425

koma script book (scrbook) class section numbering in lyx 2.0.x and 2.1.0rc1

[Csikos Bela]

Hello:

This is only a report of a misbehavior so that lyx user (and possibly 
developers) would be aware of it.

Lyx (both 2.0.x and 2.1.0rc1) numbers koma book class sections consecutively 
disregarding \frontmatter and \mainmatter.

This results in a difference between section numbers in lyx interface and the 
pdf output.
For example if the document has 2 sections in the front matter and 5 in the 
main matter,
in lyx these are numbered from 1 to 7. In the pdf output the sections in the 
front matter are not numbered and the the sections in the main matter are 
numbered from 1 to 5.
This makes identifying text locations and editing/correcting the text difficult 
occasionally.

bcsikos425

koma script book (scrbook) class section numbering in lyx 2.0.x and 2.1.0rc1

[Csikos Bela]

Hello:

This is only a report of a misbehavior so that lyx user (and possibly 
developers) would be aware of it.

Lyx (both 2.0.x and 2.1.0rc1) numbers koma book class sections consecutively 
disregarding \frontmatter and \mainmatter.

This results in a difference between section numbers in lyx interface and the 
pdf output.
For example if the document has 2 sections in the front matter and 5 in the 
main matter,
in lyx these are numbered from 1 to 7. In the pdf output the sections in the 
front matter are not numbered and the the sections in the main matter are 
numbered from 1 to 5.
This makes identifying text locations and editing/correcting the text difficult 
occasionally.

bcsikos425

Re: beamer in lyx 2.0.1rc1 - bad experience

[Csikos Bela]

Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org írta:
2014-03-28 18:02 GMT+01:00 Csikos Bela bcsikos...@freemail.hu:

There are minor issues regarding the look of the new layout. I preferred the
longerhorizontal lines between frames. And I would like the frame titles to 
be centered.
Is it possible to adjust my  layout file accordingly? What should I change?

As for the longer line, change the LabelString of the quot;Separatorquot; 
style in the
beamer class. Instead of copying and modifying the file itself (which cuts you 
from
further updates and fixes in that layout class), you can also add this to 
Document  Settings  Local Layout:

style Separator
LabelString   quot;quot;
End

This looks much better. Thanks.

Centering the frame title is more difficult. You cannot do this currently 
without also centering the whole frame content.

I can live without it.

bcsikos

Re: beamer in lyx 2.0.1rc1 - bad experience

[Csikos Bela]

Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org írta:
2014-03-28 18:02 GMT+01:00 Csikos Bela bcsikos...@freemail.hu:

There are minor issues regarding the look of the new layout. I preferred the
longerhorizontal lines between frames. And I would like the frame titles to 
be centered.
Is it possible to adjust my  layout file accordingly? What should I change?

As for the longer line, change the LabelString of the quot;Separatorquot; 
style in the
beamer class. Instead of copying and modifying the file itself (which cuts you 
from
further updates and fixes in that layout class), you can also add this to 
Document  Settings  Local Layout:

style Separator
LabelString   quot;quot;
End

This looks much better. Thanks.

Centering the frame title is more difficult. You cannot do this currently 
without also centering the whole frame content.

I can live without it.

bcsikos

Re: beamer in lyx 2.0.1rc1 - bad experience

[Csikos Bela]

"Jürgen Spitzmüller" <sp...@lyx.org> írta:
>2014-03-28 18:02 GMT+01:00 Csikos Bela bcsikos...@freemail.hu>:
>
>>There are minor issues regarding the look of the new layout. I preferred the
>>longerhorizontal lines between frames. And I would like the frame titles to 
>>be centered.
>>Is it possible to adjust my  layout file accordingly? What should I change?

>As for the longer line, change the LabelString of the Separator 
>style in the
>beamer class. Instead of copying and modifying the file itself (which cuts you 
>from
>further updates and fixes in that layout class), you can also add this to 
>Document > >Settings > Local Layout:
>
>style Separator
>LabelString   
>End

This looks much better. Thanks.

>Centering the frame title is more difficult. You cannot do this currently 
>without also >centering the whole frame content.

I can live without it.

bcsikos

Re: beamer in lyx 2.0.1rc1 - bad experience

[Csikos Bela]

Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org írta:
2014-03-27 21:37 GMT+01:00 Csikos Bela:



That is, the frame environment is a standard environment placed in a frame, 
but keeps
its nested status. Therefore I don#39;t have to change it to 
#39;standard#39;
environment and nest it manually. Is this correct?

Not quite. The frame environment is a frame environment. It can consists of 
several
paragraphs, but only one frame title, which is normally given in the first 
line.

Thanks. I guess I meant the same, ie I don't have to change Frame environment 
to any other and I don't have to nest it either.

It behaves
 ?exatly as any other environment now. If you use, to stick with the beamer 
 class, an
example or block environment, it is conceptually the same than the frame 
environment.
You do not change the paragraph style of a block environment to Standard and 
nest it,
do you? Neither don#39;t you change the content of a quote environment to 
Standard
and nest it. So why would you want to do it with the frame environment?


Based on your suggestions I created a frame with title and content with 
keeping
#39;frame#39; environment for the content. Then I inserted a subtitle below 
the
title (moving cursor after title, pressing enter and applying 
#39;subtitle#39;
environment). This resulted in a non-indented subtitle and messed up the 
frame. I had
to manually increase depth for the subtitle.


I find it messy that I have to manually nest subtitle but I don#39;t have to 
 nest
standard frame content.

Look, the subtitle is a command, while the frame is an environment. In LaTeX, 
it looks like this

\begin{frame}{title}  \subtitle{Subtitle}frame textframe text\end{frame}
This is conceptually the same as if you would nest a chapter within a quote 
environment.
You would also need to nest it.

Why is this so? Because the beamer author decided to implement it that way (he 
could
also have implemented it via a further optional argument, but he didn#39;t).

Furthermore if I add list environment to the frame content it is not nested 
either, have
to be indented manually.

This is the normal way LyX treats _any_ environment. Content inside 
environments must
be nested. Frame was the only exception.

The previous method (in lyx 2.0, 1.6) was much more straightforward and more 
usable.
In that version the nesting problem appeared only when I used the columns
environment  (and usually it drove me nuts). Now, as I see this complication 
have been
extended to the whole frame composition. There must be some big advantage of 
this
approach, what is it?

Let me put it the reverse way: What was the bid disadvantage of the old 
approach? Itwas based on a huge, ugly, completely opaque hack. The old frame 
layout in fact did
not use a real beamer frame, but this hack (take out your brown paper bag):
    \long\def\lyxframe#1{\@lyxframe#1\@lyxframestop}%    \def\@lyxframe
{\@ifnextchar}}%    
\def\@@lyxframe{\@ifnextchar[{\@@@lyxframe}{\@@@lyxframe[]}}
    \def\@@@lyxframe[{\@ifnextchar[}{\lyxframe[][}}    \def\@lyxframe
[#2]{\@ifnextchar[{\lyxframe[#2]}{\lyxframe[#2][]}}
    \long\def\lyxframe[#2][#3]#4\@lyxframestop#5\lyxframeend{%  
\frame[#2]
[#3]{\frametitle{#4}#5}}And plainframe:    \long\def
\lyxplainframe#1{\@lyxplainframe#1\@lyxframestop}%
    \def\@lyxplainframe{\@ifnextchar}}%    \long\def
\@@lyxplainframe#2\@lyxframestop#3\lyxframeend{%  
\frame[plain]{\frametitle{#2}
#3}}
And againframe:    \long\def\lyxagainframe#1{\@lyxagainframe#1\@lyxframestop}% 
\def\@lyxagainframe{\@ifnextchar}}%    \def\@@lyxagainframe{\@ifnextchar
[{\@@@lyxagainframe}{\@@@lyxagainframe[]}}
    \long\def\@@@lyxagainframe[#2]#3\@lyxframestop{%  
\againframe[#2]{#3}}Do
you understand these definitions? No? Good: Me neither. No LyX developer does. 
Not
even the current beamer developers do. It was written many years ago by the 
original
beamer developer (who is not active anymore) just for the sake of the LyX user
interface.
The problem with this definition, apart from its opaqueness, is that it is a 
dead end
street. Nobody knows how long it will continue to work as beamer is developed 
further.
It was the reason that LyX could not support many beamer features (fragile 
frame was
not supported at all, beamer handout could only be supported in a very limited 
way, only 
a subset of frame options could be supported, optional arguments did not work, 
and so
on and so forth). All these problems were unfixable on the basis of the old 
approach.

And finally, LyX exported nonstandard LaTeX output. With the old layout, you 
got this LyXism in the LaTeX export:

p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }

\lyxframeend{}\lyxframe{Frame title}

Frame content


\lyxframeend{}With LyX 2.1, you get _proper_ LaTeX output:
\begin{frame}{Frame title}Frame content
\end{frame}I completely understand that it is demanding to get used to a new 
UI when
you were used to the old one. I felt the same. But I can assure you, that you 
can get
used

Re: beamer in lyx 2.0.1rc1 - bad experience

[Csikos Bela]

Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org írta:
2014-03-27 21:37 GMT+01:00 Csikos Bela:



That is, the frame environment is a standard environment placed in a frame, 
but keeps
its nested status. Therefore I don#39;t have to change it to 
#39;standard#39;
environment and nest it manually. Is this correct?

Not quite. The frame environment is a frame environment. It can consists of 
several
paragraphs, but only one frame title, which is normally given in the first 
line.

Thanks. I guess I meant the same, ie I don't have to change Frame environment 
to any other and I don't have to nest it either.

It behaves
 ?exatly as any other environment now. If you use, to stick with the beamer 
 class, an
example or block environment, it is conceptually the same than the frame 
environment.
You do not change the paragraph style of a block environment to Standard and 
nest it,
do you? Neither don#39;t you change the content of a quote environment to 
Standard
and nest it. So why would you want to do it with the frame environment?


Based on your suggestions I created a frame with title and content with 
keeping
#39;frame#39; environment for the content. Then I inserted a subtitle below 
the
title (moving cursor after title, pressing enter and applying 
#39;subtitle#39;
environment). This resulted in a non-indented subtitle and messed up the 
frame. I had
to manually increase depth for the subtitle.


I find it messy that I have to manually nest subtitle but I don#39;t have to 
 nest
standard frame content.

Look, the subtitle is a command, while the frame is an environment. In LaTeX, 
it looks like this

\begin{frame}{title}  \subtitle{Subtitle}frame textframe text\end{frame}
This is conceptually the same as if you would nest a chapter within a quote 
environment.
You would also need to nest it.

Why is this so? Because the beamer author decided to implement it that way (he 
could
also have implemented it via a further optional argument, but he didn#39;t).

Furthermore if I add list environment to the frame content it is not nested 
either, have
to be indented manually.

This is the normal way LyX treats _any_ environment. Content inside 
environments must
be nested. Frame was the only exception.

The previous method (in lyx 2.0, 1.6) was much more straightforward and more 
usable.
In that version the nesting problem appeared only when I used the columns
environment  (and usually it drove me nuts). Now, as I see this complication 
have been
extended to the whole frame composition. There must be some big advantage of 
this
approach, what is it?

Let me put it the reverse way: What was the bid disadvantage of the old 
approach? Itwas based on a huge, ugly, completely opaque hack. The old frame 
layout in fact did
not use a real beamer frame, but this hack (take out your brown paper bag):
    \long\def\lyxframe#1{\@lyxframe#1\@lyxframestop}%    \def\@lyxframe
{\@ifnextchar}}%    
\def\@@lyxframe{\@ifnextchar[{\@@@lyxframe}{\@@@lyxframe[]}}
    \def\@@@lyxframe[{\@ifnextchar[}{\lyxframe[][}}    \def\@lyxframe
[#2]{\@ifnextchar[{\lyxframe[#2]}{\lyxframe[#2][]}}
    \long\def\lyxframe[#2][#3]#4\@lyxframestop#5\lyxframeend{%  
\frame[#2]
[#3]{\frametitle{#4}#5}}And plainframe:    \long\def
\lyxplainframe#1{\@lyxplainframe#1\@lyxframestop}%
    \def\@lyxplainframe{\@ifnextchar}}%    \long\def
\@@lyxplainframe#2\@lyxframestop#3\lyxframeend{%  
\frame[plain]{\frametitle{#2}
#3}}
And againframe:    \long\def\lyxagainframe#1{\@lyxagainframe#1\@lyxframestop}% 
\def\@lyxagainframe{\@ifnextchar}}%    \def\@@lyxagainframe{\@ifnextchar
[{\@@@lyxagainframe}{\@@@lyxagainframe[]}}
    \long\def\@@@lyxagainframe[#2]#3\@lyxframestop{%  
\againframe[#2]{#3}}Do
you understand these definitions? No? Good: Me neither. No LyX developer does. 
Not
even the current beamer developers do. It was written many years ago by the 
original
beamer developer (who is not active anymore) just for the sake of the LyX user
interface.
The problem with this definition, apart from its opaqueness, is that it is a 
dead end
street. Nobody knows how long it will continue to work as beamer is developed 
further.
It was the reason that LyX could not support many beamer features (fragile 
frame was
not supported at all, beamer handout could only be supported in a very limited 
way, only 
a subset of frame options could be supported, optional arguments did not work, 
and so
on and so forth). All these problems were unfixable on the basis of the old 
approach.

And finally, LyX exported nonstandard LaTeX output. With the old layout, you 
got this LyXism in the LaTeX export:

p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }

\lyxframeend{}\lyxframe{Frame title}

Frame content


\lyxframeend{}With LyX 2.1, you get _proper_ LaTeX output:
\begin{frame}{Frame title}Frame content
\end{frame}I completely understand that it is demanding to get used to a new 
UI when
you were used to the old one. I felt the same. But I can assure you, that you 
can get
used

Re: beamer in lyx 2.0.1rc1 - bad experience

[Csikos Bela]

"Jürgen Spitzmüller" <sp...@lyx.org> írta:
>>2014-03-27 21:37 GMT+01:00 Csikos Bela:
>>
>>
>>
>>That is, the frame environment is a standard environment placed in a frame, 
>>but keeps
>>its nested status. Therefore I dont have to change it to 
>>standard
>>environment and nest it manually. Is this correct?
>>
>Not quite. The frame environment is a frame environment. It can consists of 
>several
>paragraphs, but only one frame title, which is normally given in the first 
>line.

Thanks. I guess I meant the same, ie I don't have to change Frame environment 
to any other and I don't have to nest it either.

>It behaves
> ?exatly as any other environment now. If you use, to stick with the beamer 
> class, an
>example or block environment, it is conceptually the same than the frame 
>environment.
>You do not change the paragraph style of a block environment to Standard and 
>nest it,
>do you? Neither dont you change the content of a quote environment to 
>Standard
>and nest it. So why would you want to do it with the frame environment?

>>
>>Based on your suggestions I created a frame with title and content with 
>>keeping
>>frame environment for the content. Then I inserted a subtitle below 
>>the
>>title (moving cursor after title, pressing enter and applying 
>>subtitle
>>environment). This resulted in a non-indented subtitle and messed up the 
>>frame. I had
>>to manually increase depth for the subtitle.
>>
>>
>>I find it messy that I have to manually nest subtitle but I dont have to 
>> nest
>>standard frame content.

>Look, the subtitle is a command, while the frame is an environment. In LaTeX, 
>it looks >like this
>
>\begin{frame}{title}  \subtitle{Subtitle}frame textframe text\end{frame}
>This is conceptually the same as if you would nest a chapter within a quote 
>environment.
>You would also need to nest it.
>
>Why is this so? Because the beamer author decided to implement it that way (he 
>could
>also have implemented it via a further optional argument, but he didnt).
>
>>Furthermore if I add list environment to the frame content it is not nested 
>>either, have
>>to be indented manually.

>This is the normal way LyX treats _any_ environment. Content inside 
>environments must
>be nested. Frame was the only exception.

>>The previous method (in lyx 2.0, 1.6) was much more straightforward and more 
>>usable.
>>In that version the nesting problem appeared only when I used the columns
>>environment  (and usually it drove me nuts). Now, as I see this complication 
>>have been
>>extended to the whole frame composition. There must be some big advantage of 
>>this
>>approach, what is it?

>Let me put it the reverse way: What was the bid disadvantage of the old 
>approach? >Itwas based on a huge, ugly, completely opaque hack. The old frame 
>layout in fact did
>not use a real beamer frame, but this hack (take out your brown paper bag):
>    \long\def\lyxframe#1{\@lyxframe#1\@lyxframestop}%    \def\@lyxframe
>{\@ifnextchar}}%    
>\def\@@lyxframe{\@ifnextchar[{\@@@lyxframe}{\@@@lyxframe[]}}
>    \def\@@@lyxframe[{\@ifnextchar[}{\lyxframe[][}}    \def\@lyxframe
>[#2]{\@ifnextchar[{\lyxframe[#2]}{\lyxframe[#2][]}}
>    \long\def\lyxframe[#2][#3]#4\@lyxframestop#5\lyxframeend{%  
>\frame[#2]
>[#3]{\frametitle{#4}#5}}And plainframe:    \long\def
>\lyxplainframe#1{\@lyxplainframe#1\@lyxframestop}%
>    \def\@lyxplainframe{\@ifnextchar}}%    \long\def
>\@@lyxplainframe#2\@lyxframestop#3\lyxframeend{%  
>\frame[plain]{\frametitle{#2}
>#3}}
>And againframe:    \long\def\lyxagainframe#1{\@lyxagainframe#1\@lyxframestop}% 
>\def\@lyxagainframe{\@ifnextchar}}%    \def\@@lyxagainframe{\@ifnextchar
>[{\@@@lyxagainframe}{\@@@lyxagainframe[]}}
>    \long\def\@@@lyxagainframe[#2]#3\@lyxframestop{%  
>\againframe[#2]{#3}}Do
>you understand these definitions? No? Good: Me neither. No LyX developer does. 
>Not
>even the current beamer developers do. It was written many years ago by the 
>original
>beamer developer (who is not active anymore) just for the sake of the LyX user
>interface.
>The problem with this definition, apart from its opaqueness, is that it is a 
>dead end
>street. Nobody knows how long it will continue to work as beamer is developed 
>further.
>It was the reason that LyX could not support many beamer features (fragile 
>frame was
>not supported at all, beamer handout could only be supported in a very limited 
>way, only 
>a subset of frame options could be supported, optional arguments did not work, 
>and so
>on and so forth). All these prob

beamer in lyx 2.0.1rc1 - bad experience

[Csikos Bela]

Hello:

I tried beamer in lyx 2.0.1rc1.

Unfortunately I have to say that handling of frames is worse than in lyx 2.0.

There is no frame end option and no indication of frame ends -- must look at 
the source. Furthermore after adding a subtitle and frame content resulted in 
content going after \endframe. Sorry to say but this is not improvement but 
regression.

Very frustrating.

bcsikos425



beamer-lyx2.0.1rc1.lyx
Description: Binary data

Re: beamer in lyx 2.0.1rc1 - bad experience

[Csikos Bela]

Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org írta:
2014-03-27 17:09 GMT+01:00 Csikos Bela:

Hello:

I tried beamer in lyx 2.0.1rc1.

Unfortunately I have to say that handling of frames is worse than in lyx 2.0.

There is no frame end option and no indication of frame ends -- must look at 
the
source. Furthermore after adding a subtitle and frame content resulted in 
content going
after \endframe. Sorry to say but this is not improvement but regression.


Very frustrating.

I suggest you read Help  Beamer Presentations, where the new interface is 
described.
Expecially read the section on quot;nestingquot;.It was not a goal in itself 
to change
the user interface, but it was unavoidable to overcome many serious flaws of
LyX#39;s beamer support. So I am afraid you#39;ll have to get used to the new
interface.

Thank you.

Unfortunately I don't have the manual you referenced under Help menu.
(lyx-2.0.1rc1 built on openSUSE 12.2 linux)

See my help menu items here:

http://i58.tinypic.com/29x81tz.jpg

Is there other (online) place where it is available?

Thanks,

bcsikos425

Re: beamer in lyx 2.0.1rc1 - bad experience

[Csikos Bela]

Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org írta:
On 03/27/2014 12:46 PM, Csikos Bela wrote:
 Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org írta:
 2014-03-27 17:09 GMT+01:00 Csikos Bela:

 Hello:

 I tried beamer in lyx 2.0.1rc1.

 Unfortunately I have to say that handling of frames is worse than in lyx 
 2.0.

 There is no frame end option and no indication of frame ends -- must look 
 at the
 source. Furthermore after adding a subtitle and frame content resulted in 
 content
going
 after \endframe. Sorry to say but this is not improvement but regression.


 Very frustrating.
 I suggest you read Help  Beamer Presentations, where the new interface is
described.
 Expecially read the section on quot;nestingquot;.It was not a goal in 
 itself to
change
 the user interface, but it was unavoidable to overcome many serious flaws of
 LyX#39;s beamer support. So I am afraid you#39;ll have to get used to the 
 new
 interface.
 Thank you.

 Unfortunately I don't have the manual you referenced under Help menu.
 (lyx-2.0.1rc1 built on openSUSE 12.2 linux)

 See my help menu items here:

 http://i58.tinypic.com/29x81tz.jpg

 Is there other (online) place where it is available?

You're missing quite a lot of the manuals. Did you customize the menu 
items at some point? Have a look at ~/.lyx/ui/ (or whatever your userdir 
is). Are there files in there?

Yes I customized it (copied items here from lyx 2.0 userdir).

I removed those items and now I have more menu items.

How can I have my customized items and all the menus is a later question.


In any event, you must have this file in your installation. Look for 
beamer.lyx, probably somewhere like /usr/local/share/lyx/lib/examples/.


I found it. Thanks.

Back to the beamer module and nesting. This is an example workflow:

1. I start a frame using/selecting frame. Fill the frame title. Press enter.

2. Write frame content. The style still show 'frame'. Is that normal?

3. I manually change content to standard style. This results in appearance 
another frame 

below content. Is this normal?

4. I increase depth for content. Content becomes indented and previously 
appeared 

frame disappears. Press enter. Style becomes 'frame' again.

5.  I apply style separator. Frame is ended, new frame appears below.

6. Now I try to insert a subtitle. Move the cursor to the end of title, press 
enter.

7. Select/apply style 'frame subtitle'. Content below becomes unindented. I 
enter frame 

subtitle text. I increase dept for frame subtitle. Content remains unindented.

8. I have to increase depth again for content if I want it to stay part of the 
frame.

That is, inserting a subtitle afterwards, messes the whole frame content, and I 
have to 

start over increasing depth. Is this really what we want?

Or do I do something wrong?

Thanks,

bcsikos

Re: beamer in lyx 2.0.1rc1 - bad experience

[Csikos Bela]

Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org írta:
2014-03-27 18:51 GMT+01:00 Csikos Bela:

Back to the beamer module and nesting. This is an example workflow:

1. I start a frame using/selecting frame. Fill the frame title. Press enter.

2. Write frame content. The style still show #39;frame#39;. Is that normal?

Yes. The frame is a normal environment and behaves like a normal environment 
now.

That is, the frame environment is a standard environment placed in a frame, but 
keeps its nested status. Therefore I don't have to change it to 'standard' 
environment and nest it manually. Is this correct?

[LONG SNIP]

Based on your suggestions I created a frame with title and content with keeping 
'frame' environment for the content. Then I inserted a subtitle below the title 
(moving cursor after title, pressing enter and applying 'subtitle' 
environment). This resulted in a non-indented subtitle and messed up the frame. 
I had to manually increase depth for the subtitle.
I find it messy that I have to manually nest subtitle but I don't have to  nest 
standard frame content. Furthermore if I add list environment to the frame 
content it is not nested either, have to be indented manually. The previous 
method (in lyx 2.0, 1.6) was much more straightforward and more usable. In that 
version the nesting problem appeared only when I used the columns environment  
(and usually it drove me nuts). Now, as I see this complication have been 
extended to the whole frame composition. There must be some big advantage of 
this approach, what is it?

bcsikos

beamer in lyx 2.0.1rc1 - bad experience

[Csikos Bela]

Hello:

I tried beamer in lyx 2.0.1rc1.

Unfortunately I have to say that handling of frames is worse than in lyx 2.0.

There is no frame end option and no indication of frame ends -- must look at 
the source. Furthermore after adding a subtitle and frame content resulted in 
content going after \endframe. Sorry to say but this is not improvement but 
regression.

Very frustrating.

bcsikos425



beamer-lyx2.0.1rc1.lyx
Description: Binary data

Re: beamer in lyx 2.0.1rc1 - bad experience

[Csikos Bela]

Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org írta:
2014-03-27 17:09 GMT+01:00 Csikos Bela:

Hello:

I tried beamer in lyx 2.0.1rc1.

Unfortunately I have to say that handling of frames is worse than in lyx 2.0.

There is no frame end option and no indication of frame ends -- must look at 
the
source. Furthermore after adding a subtitle and frame content resulted in 
content going
after \endframe. Sorry to say but this is not improvement but regression.


Very frustrating.

I suggest you read Help  Beamer Presentations, where the new interface is 
described.
Expecially read the section on quot;nestingquot;.It was not a goal in itself 
to change
the user interface, but it was unavoidable to overcome many serious flaws of
LyX#39;s beamer support. So I am afraid you#39;ll have to get used to the new
interface.

Thank you.

Unfortunately I don't have the manual you referenced under Help menu.
(lyx-2.0.1rc1 built on openSUSE 12.2 linux)

See my help menu items here:

http://i58.tinypic.com/29x81tz.jpg

Is there other (online) place where it is available?

Thanks,

bcsikos425

Re: beamer in lyx 2.0.1rc1 - bad experience

[Csikos Bela]

Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org írta:
On 03/27/2014 12:46 PM, Csikos Bela wrote:
 Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org írta:
 2014-03-27 17:09 GMT+01:00 Csikos Bela:

 Hello:

 I tried beamer in lyx 2.0.1rc1.

 Unfortunately I have to say that handling of frames is worse than in lyx 
 2.0.

 There is no frame end option and no indication of frame ends -- must look 
 at the
 source. Furthermore after adding a subtitle and frame content resulted in 
 content
going
 after \endframe. Sorry to say but this is not improvement but regression.


 Very frustrating.
 I suggest you read Help  Beamer Presentations, where the new interface is
described.
 Expecially read the section on quot;nestingquot;.It was not a goal in 
 itself to
change
 the user interface, but it was unavoidable to overcome many serious flaws of
 LyX#39;s beamer support. So I am afraid you#39;ll have to get used to the 
 new
 interface.
 Thank you.

 Unfortunately I don't have the manual you referenced under Help menu.
 (lyx-2.0.1rc1 built on openSUSE 12.2 linux)

 See my help menu items here:

 http://i58.tinypic.com/29x81tz.jpg

 Is there other (online) place where it is available?

You're missing quite a lot of the manuals. Did you customize the menu 
items at some point? Have a look at ~/.lyx/ui/ (or whatever your userdir 
is). Are there files in there?

Yes I customized it (copied items here from lyx 2.0 userdir).

I removed those items and now I have more menu items.

How can I have my customized items and all the menus is a later question.


In any event, you must have this file in your installation. Look for 
beamer.lyx, probably somewhere like /usr/local/share/lyx/lib/examples/.


I found it. Thanks.

Back to the beamer module and nesting. This is an example workflow:

1. I start a frame using/selecting frame. Fill the frame title. Press enter.

2. Write frame content. The style still show 'frame'. Is that normal?

3. I manually change content to standard style. This results in appearance 
another frame 

below content. Is this normal?

4. I increase depth for content. Content becomes indented and previously 
appeared 

frame disappears. Press enter. Style becomes 'frame' again.

5.  I apply style separator. Frame is ended, new frame appears below.

6. Now I try to insert a subtitle. Move the cursor to the end of title, press 
enter.

7. Select/apply style 'frame subtitle'. Content below becomes unindented. I 
enter frame 

subtitle text. I increase dept for frame subtitle. Content remains unindented.

8. I have to increase depth again for content if I want it to stay part of the 
frame.

That is, inserting a subtitle afterwards, messes the whole frame content, and I 
have to 

start over increasing depth. Is this really what we want?

Or do I do something wrong?

Thanks,

bcsikos

Re: beamer in lyx 2.0.1rc1 - bad experience

[Csikos Bela]

Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org írta:
2014-03-27 18:51 GMT+01:00 Csikos Bela:

Back to the beamer module and nesting. This is an example workflow:

1. I start a frame using/selecting frame. Fill the frame title. Press enter.

2. Write frame content. The style still show #39;frame#39;. Is that normal?

Yes. The frame is a normal environment and behaves like a normal environment 
now.

That is, the frame environment is a standard environment placed in a frame, but 
keeps its nested status. Therefore I don't have to change it to 'standard' 
environment and nest it manually. Is this correct?

[LONG SNIP]

Based on your suggestions I created a frame with title and content with keeping 
'frame' environment for the content. Then I inserted a subtitle below the title 
(moving cursor after title, pressing enter and applying 'subtitle' 
environment). This resulted in a non-indented subtitle and messed up the frame. 
I had to manually increase depth for the subtitle.
I find it messy that I have to manually nest subtitle but I don't have to  nest 
standard frame content. Furthermore if I add list environment to the frame 
content it is not nested either, have to be indented manually. The previous 
method (in lyx 2.0, 1.6) was much more straightforward and more usable. In that 
version the nesting problem appeared only when I used the columns environment  
(and usually it drove me nuts). Now, as I see this complication have been 
extended to the whole frame composition. There must be some big advantage of 
this approach, what is it?

bcsikos

beamer in lyx 2.0.1rc1 - bad experience

[Csikos Bela]

Hello:

I tried beamer in lyx 2.0.1rc1.

Unfortunately I have to say that handling of frames is worse than in lyx 2.0.

There is no frame end option and no indication of frame ends -- must look at 
the source. Furthermore after adding a subtitle and frame content resulted in 
content going after \endframe. Sorry to say but this is not improvement but 
regression.

Very frustrating.

bcsikos425



beamer-lyx2.0.1rc1.lyx
Description: Binary data

Re: beamer in lyx 2.0.1rc1 - bad experience

[Csikos Bela]

"Jürgen Spitzmüller" <sp...@lyx.org> írta:
>>2014-03-27 17:09 GMT+01:00 Csikos Bela:
>>
>>Hello:
>>
>>I tried beamer in lyx 2.0.1rc1.
>>
>>Unfortunately I have to say that handling of frames is worse than in lyx 2.0.
>>
>>There is no frame end option and no indication of frame ends -- must look at 
>>the
>>source. Furthermore after adding a subtitle and frame content resulted in 
>>content going
>>after \endframe. Sorry to say but this is not improvement but regression.
>>
>>
>>Very frustrating.

>I suggest you read Help > Beamer Presentations, where the new interface is 
>described.
>Expecially read the section on nesting.It was not a goal in itself 
>to change
>the user interface, but it was unavoidable to overcome many serious flaws of
>LyXs beamer support. So I am afraid youll have to get used to the new
>interface.

Thank you.

Unfortunately I don't have the manual you referenced under Help menu.
(lyx-2.0.1rc1 built on openSUSE 12.2 linux)

See my help menu items here:

http://i58.tinypic.com/29x81tz.jpg

Is there other (online) place where it is available?

Thanks,

bcsikos425

Re: beamer in lyx 2.0.1rc1 - bad experience

[Csikos Bela]

Richard Heck <rgh...@lyx.org> írta:
>On 03/27/2014 12:46 PM, Csikos Bela wrote:
>> "Jürgen Spitzmüller" <sp...@lyx.org> írta:
>>>> 2014-03-27 17:09 GMT+01:00 Csikos Bela:
>>>>
>>>> Hello:
>>>>
>>>> I tried beamer in lyx 2.0.1rc1.
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately I have to say that handling of frames is worse than in lyx 
>>>> 2.0.
>>>>
>>>> There is no frame end option and no indication of frame ends -- must look 
>>>> at the
>>>> source. Furthermore after adding a subtitle and frame content resulted in 
>>>> content
>>>going
>>>> after \endframe. Sorry to say but this is not improvement but regression.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Very frustrating.
>>> I suggest you read Help > Beamer Presentations, where the new interface is
>>>described.
>>> Expecially read the section on nesting.It was not a goal in 
>>> itself to
>>>change
>>> the user interface, but it was unavoidable to overcome many serious flaws of
>>> LyXs beamer support. So I am afraid youll have to get used to the 
>>> new
>>> interface.
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Unfortunately I don't have the manual you referenced under Help menu.
>> (lyx-2.0.1rc1 built on openSUSE 12.2 linux)
>>
>> See my help menu items here:
>>
>> http://i58.tinypic.com/29x81tz.jpg
>>
>> Is there other (online) place where it is available?
>
>You're missing quite a lot of the manuals. Did you customize the menu 
>items at some point? Have a look at ~/.lyx/ui/ (or whatever your userdir 
>is). Are there files in there?

Yes I customized it (copied items here from lyx 2.0 userdir).

I removed those items and now I have more menu items.

How can I have my customized items and all the menus is a later question.

>
>In any event, you must have this file in your installation. Look for 
>beamer.lyx, probably somewhere like /usr/local/share/lyx/lib/examples/.
>

I found it. Thanks.

Back to the beamer module and nesting. This is an example workflow:

1. I start a frame using/selecting frame. Fill the frame title. Press enter.

2. Write frame content. The style still show 'frame'. Is that normal?

3. I manually change content to standard style. This results in appearance 
another frame 

below content. Is this normal?

4. I increase depth for content. Content becomes indented and previously 
appeared 

frame disappears. Press enter. Style becomes 'frame' again.

5.  I apply style "separator". Frame is ended, new frame appears below.

6. Now I try to insert a subtitle. Move the cursor to the end of title, press 
enter.

7. Select/apply style 'frame subtitle'. Content below becomes unindented. I 
enter frame 

subtitle text. I increase dept for frame subtitle. Content remains unindented.

8. I have to increase depth again for content if I want it to stay part of the 
frame.

That is, inserting a subtitle afterwards, messes the whole frame content, and I 
have to 

start over increasing depth. Is this really what we want?

Or do I do something wrong?

Thanks,

bcsikos

Re: beamer in lyx 2.0.1rc1 - bad experience

[Csikos Bela]

"Jürgen Spitzmüller" <sp...@lyx.org> írta:
>2014-03-27 18:51 GMT+01:00 Csikos Bela:
>>
>>Back to the beamer module and nesting. This is an example workflow:
>>
>>1. I start a frame using/selecting frame. Fill the frame title. Press enter.
>>
>>2. Write frame content. The style still show frame. Is that normal?

>Yes. The frame is a normal environment and behaves like a normal environment 
>now.

That is, the frame environment is a standard environment placed in a frame, but 
keeps its nested status. Therefore I don't have to change it to 'standard' 
environment and nest it manually. Is this correct?

[LONG SNIP]

Based on your suggestions I created a frame with title and content with keeping 
'frame' environment for the content. Then I inserted a subtitle below the title 
(moving cursor after title, pressing enter and applying 'subtitle' 
environment). This resulted in a non-indented subtitle and messed up the frame. 
I had to manually increase depth for the subtitle.
I find it messy that I have to manually nest subtitle but I don't have to  nest 
standard frame content. Furthermore if I add list environment to the frame 
content it is not nested either, have to be indented manually. The previous 
method (in lyx 2.0, 1.6) was much more straightforward and more usable. In that 
version the nesting problem appeared only when I used the columns environment  
(and usually it drove me nuts). Now, as I see this complication have been 
extended to the whole frame composition. There must be some big advantage of 
this approach, what is it?

bcsikos

Re: bst file not in tar.gz archive

[Csikos Bela]

Wolfgang Engelmann engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de írta:


p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }

On Tuesday 18 March 2014 14:50:10 Csikos Bela wrote:
 Wolfgang Engelmann  írta:
 p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }
 
 Hallo, Lyx users,
 
 Hello:
 
 Please clarify what you are talking about.
 
 I thought the bibtex style file
 
 Which bibtex style file? 
e.g. spbasic.bst 
(bibtex generated bibliography in document, usually at the end)
 
 is also exported
 
 What is exported from where?
e.g. spbasic.bst exported with the other stuff (lyx file, figures, bib file..) 
fileexportLyx Archive tar.gz
nbsp;
Is it now clear, what I mean? Sorry for not being precise enough

Hello:

I never used Export=Lyx archive option in lyx. Based on The LyX user's guide 
and the
Additional LyX features manuals it should export in one archive every file 
necesary for compilation of the document. If this does not occur, it is a bug.

Apart from this I guess it is more straightforward to make a separate directory 
for every document and copy/store all the necessary file in that directory. 
Then it is very easy to make an archive of the directory with its content.

Regards,

bcsikos

Re: bst file not in tar.gz archive

[Csikos Bela]

Wolfgang Engelmann engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de írta:


p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }

On Tuesday 18 March 2014 14:50:10 Csikos Bela wrote:
 Wolfgang Engelmann  írta:
 p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }
 
 Hallo, Lyx users,
 
 Hello:
 
 Please clarify what you are talking about.
 
 I thought the bibtex style file
 
 Which bibtex style file? 
e.g. spbasic.bst 
(bibtex generated bibliography in document, usually at the end)
 
 is also exported
 
 What is exported from where?
e.g. spbasic.bst exported with the other stuff (lyx file, figures, bib file..) 
fileexportLyx Archive tar.gz
nbsp;
Is it now clear, what I mean? Sorry for not being precise enough

Hello:

I never used Export=Lyx archive option in lyx. Based on The LyX user's guide 
and the
Additional LyX features manuals it should export in one archive every file 
necesary for compilation of the document. If this does not occur, it is a bug.

Apart from this I guess it is more straightforward to make a separate directory 
for every document and copy/store all the necessary file in that directory. 
Then it is very easy to make an archive of the directory with its content.

Regards,

bcsikos

Re: bst file not in tar.gz archive

[Csikos Bela]

Wolfgang Engelmann <engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de> írta:
>
>
>p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }
>
>On Tuesday 18 March 2014 14:50:10 Csikos Bela wrote:
>> Wolfgang Engelmann  írta:
>> >p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }
>> >
>> >Hallo, Lyx users,
>> 
>> Hello:
>> 
>> Please clarify what you are talking about.
>> 
>> >I thought the bibtex style file
>> 
>> Which bibtex style file? 
>e.g. spbasic.bst 
>(bibtex generated bibliography in document, usually at the end)
>> 
>> >is also exported
>> 
>> What is exported from where?
>e.g. spbasic.bst exported with the other stuff (lyx file, figures, bib file..) 
>>file>export>Lyx Archive tar.gz
>
>Is it now clear, what I mean? Sorry for not being precise enough

Hello:

I never used Export=>Lyx archive option in lyx. Based on "The LyX user's guide" 
and the
"Additional LyX features" manuals it should export in one archive every file 
necesary for compilation of the document. If this does not occur, it is a bug.

Apart from this I guess it is more straightforward to make a separate directory 
for every document and copy/store all the necessary file in that directory. 
Then it is very easy to make an archive of the directory with its content.

Regards,

bcsikos

Re: bst file not in tar.gz archive

[Csikos Bela]

Wolfgang Engelmann engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de írta:


p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }

Hallo, Lyx users,

Hello:

Please clarify what you are talking about.

I thought the bibtex style file

Which bibtex style file?


is also exported

What is exported from where?

into the tar.gz archive

Exported to what tar.gz?

bcsikos

Re: bst file not in tar.gz archive

[Csikos Bela]

Wolfgang Engelmann engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de írta:


p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }

Hallo, Lyx users,

Hello:

Please clarify what you are talking about.

I thought the bibtex style file

Which bibtex style file?


is also exported

What is exported from where?

into the tar.gz archive

Exported to what tar.gz?

bcsikos

Re: bst file not in tar.gz archive

[Csikos Bela]

Wolfgang Engelmann  írta:
>
>
>p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }
>
>Hallo, Lyx users,

Hello:

Please clarify what you are talking about.

>I thought the bibtex style file

Which bibtex style file?


>is also exported

What is exported from where?

>into the tar.gz archive

Exported to what tar.gz?

bcsikos

lyx, koma-script book (srcbook), mainmatter, backmatter

[Csikos Bela]

Hello:

How can I apply \frontmatter, \mainmatter, and \backmatter in lyx using srcbook 
(koma script book) class?

Do I have to use ERT or is there a lyx specific GUI method?

Thanks,

bcsikos

Re: lyx, koma-script book (srcbook), mainmatter, backmatter

[Csikos Bela]

Wolfgang Engelmann engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de írta:
On Thursday 13 March 2014 18:00:20 stefano franchi wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Csikos Bela  wrote:
  Hello:
  
  How can I apply \frontmatter, \mainmatter, and \backmatter in lyx
  using srcbook (koma script book) class?
Yes, it works with koma script book
Wolfgang

Thanks. But the question was: do I have to use ERT code or is there a lyx 
builtin
class function to apply the commands?

Thanks,

bcsikos

lyx, koma-script book (srcbook), mainmatter, backmatter

[Csikos Bela]

Hello:

How can I apply \frontmatter, \mainmatter, and \backmatter in lyx using srcbook 
(koma script book) class?

Do I have to use ERT or is there a lyx specific GUI method?

Thanks,

bcsikos

Re: lyx, koma-script book (srcbook), mainmatter, backmatter

[Csikos Bela]

Wolfgang Engelmann engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de írta:
On Thursday 13 March 2014 18:00:20 stefano franchi wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Csikos Bela  wrote:
  Hello:
  
  How can I apply \frontmatter, \mainmatter, and \backmatter in lyx
  using srcbook (koma script book) class?
Yes, it works with koma script book
Wolfgang

Thanks. But the question was: do I have to use ERT code or is there a lyx 
builtin
class function to apply the commands?

Thanks,

bcsikos

lyx, koma-script book (srcbook), mainmatter, backmatter

[Csikos Bela]

Hello:

How can I apply \frontmatter, \mainmatter, and \backmatter in lyx using srcbook 
(koma script book) class?

Do I have to use ERT or is there a lyx specific GUI method?

Thanks,

bcsikos

Re: lyx, koma-script book (srcbook), mainmatter, backmatter

[Csikos Bela]

Wolfgang Engelmann <engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de> írta:
>On Thursday 13 March 2014 18:00:20 stefano franchi wrote:
>> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Csikos Bela  wrote:
>> > Hello:
>> > 
>> > How can I apply \frontmatter, \mainmatter, and \backmatter in lyx
>> > using srcbook (koma script book) class?
>Yes, it works with koma script book
>Wolfgang

Thanks. But the question was: do I have to use ERT code or is there a lyx 
builtin
class function to apply the commands?

Thanks,

bcsikos