Re: Is latest Windows 10 (1809 prior to 1903-not installed) Update breaking Lyx 2.33 and MikTex?
Le 17/07/2019 à 19:20, Brian Davis a écrit : 1) Win 10 Enterprise (earlier versions of LyX and MikTeX as reported earlier a) run as administrator application will generate a pdf of my thesis b) Shows article.cls as available c) Enterprise is remaining in half (baked) working mode. Sees article.cls as available and can generate a pdf, but cannot generate thesis unless in admin mode (I literally just verified this) OK, I just see a run of short and precise sentences, so I dive in. When LyX show something as available, it just mean that it could access it last time Options>reconfigure was run. So in 3/ above, do you mean that you are in non-admin mode, run Option>reconfigure, article.cls is shown as available, but then you cannot generate a pdf? JMarc
Re: Is latest Windows 10 (1809 prior to 1903-not installed) Update breaking Lyx 2.33 and MikTex?
On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 11:21 AM Brian Davis wrote: > > Odd, strange, not normal... yes, but not impossible or even improbable > it is happening. > > Insanity Is Doing the Same Thing Over and Over Again and Expecting > Different Results - Einstein > > Einstein obviously never used a computer. Updates, patches, fixes, > rolling modifications, BIOS and boot roms, firmware updates... we can be > doing literally the same things (steps) when using the software, but > quite literally the system is changing out from underneath us. I expect > different results it's only a matter of time. I had an argument with a > fellow software engineer regarding building software is like building, > as building it can be designed and implemented cleanly, he argued and I > have come to agree with the reality that building software is like > building a sand castle as the waves keep crashing causing pieces to fall > into the sea in while an impetuous child barks orders (changing > requirements) on how to build it often changing goals on each new wave. > Periodic brief and amusing comments are welcome. However, including these lengthy irrelevant remarks obscure the relevant text and waste everyone's time. Please be considerate to the volunteers who support LyX and think twice before including such content in your email. How do you communicate with professional colleagues? The same style is appropriate here. Thank you, Joel
Re: Is latest Windows 10 (1809 prior to 1903-not installed) Update breaking Lyx 2.33 and MikTex?
On 7/17/2019 7:00 AM, Kees Zeelenberg wrote: Op 14-07-19 om 19:20 schreef Richard Kimberly Heck: On 7/14/19 12:26 PM, Brian Davis wrote: without more information. But contrary to what someone said here, MikTeX has an annoying habit of updating itself in the background and breaking things. We've seen it time and time again. The list archives are full of such problems. I have been using MikTeX for over 15 years (with LyX for over 10 years), and have never experienced such an automatic update that some have ascribed to it. To make sure, I have checked on the MikTeX issue tracker, with the following outcome. A user can configure MikTeX to install on the fly LaTeX-packages that are required by his/her document. But MikTeX does never update automatically its executables or packages that have previously been installed; this has to be done manually through the MikTeX console. (https://github.com/MiKTeX/miktex/issues/342#issuecomment-512218341) In the past LyX was available in a bundle with MikTeX. During install, the LyX-installer did update MikTeX; so it was not MikTeX, but the LyX-installer that did the update, and caused problems. Any reason to think this could be Windows updates not allowing programs to reach into other programs such as from some Lyx in C:\Program Files (x86) and MikTeX in C:\Program Files but does when run in administrator mode (note x86 and not x86 dirs)? There has got to be some sort of permissions problem, not imagined as I certainly don't think I could make it as a science fiction writer, though with computers and AI these days my computer(s) could be forming a mind(s) of their own. I also do not think I am part of some conspiracy as at least one other has experienced similar and I had no prior contact with that person unless on some ethereal plane in a dream state that I am unable to remember after waking. There also could be the case that I have been the victim of a post 70's era remote viewing scenario conjured up by the CIA where others then report my experience on the user forum. I have thought if I could only master this remote viewing skill I could then cancel my Netfix subscription, but that is an aside. I am also not a robot, bot, or part of a Russian troll farm. Though my entrance to the forum did not require reCAPTCHA verification only email verify so I cannot be certain I am not a robot. Surly any or all these could be true, but what might be more likely: I am just a pedantic Biomedical Engineering student working and living in the land of cheese (Wisconsin) trying to get LyX to generate my Thesis and experiencing, while strange, a very real software issue. Maybe it is time for me to make a YouTube vid on this experience. Then I might get fake news or deep fake or other type of fakery. I have experienced different behavior when running the application 1) Win 10 Enterprise (earlier versions of LyX and MikTeX as reported earlier a) run as administrator application will generate a pdf of my thesis b) Shows article.cls as available c) Enterprise is remaining in half (baked) working mode. Sees article.cls as available and can generate a pdf, but cannot generate thesis unless in admin mode (I literally just verified this) 2) Win 10 Pro a) run as administrator will generate article.cls b) showed article.cls as unavailable until run as administrator then it shows as available (with out "unavailable: " preceding it in Document->Settings c) Literately changed its behavior (possibly due to Dell or Windows update) within a day or days (2) to then working (it's current state) showing article.cls as available and generating the pdf without having to use Administrator mode. I did not reinstall, update, or modify LyX or MikTeX in any way during this event. Though I believe I may have installed a Dell update and possibly Windows updates. d) I have not tried to the the win 10 pro box to generate my Thesis as it requires addition of files in MikTex and LyX dirs. I am curious to install my files to see if I can generate and whether or not I have to enter admin mode to do it. Could there be a chance that the files I install require admin privileges? Sure, but this does not explain the article.cls issue. Odd, strange, not normal... yes, but not impossible or even improbable it is happening. Insanity Is Doing the Same Thing Over and Over Again and Expecting Different Results - Einstein Einstein obviously never used a computer. Updates, patches, fixes, rolling modifications, BIOS and boot roms, firmware updates... we can be doing literally the same things (steps) when using the software, but quite literally the system is changing out from underneath us. I expect different results it's only a matter of time. I had an argument with a fellow software engineer regarding building software is like building, as building it can be designed and implemented cleanly, he argued
Re: Is latest Windows 10 (1809 prior to 1903-not installed) Update breaking Lyx 2.33 and MikTex?
Le 16/07/2019 à 19:29, Brian Davis a écrit :
Win 10 Enterprise box this morning still requires admin mode to generate
pdf. So at least there is stable insanity there.
In this case, does the miktex installation work without being admin?
IOW, can you compile from command line a simple latex file like the
following?
\documentclass{article}
\begin{document}
Hello World!
\end{document}
JMarc
Re: Is latest Windows 10 (1809 prior to 1903-not installed) Update breaking Lyx 2.33 and MikTex?
Le 17/07/2019 à 14:00, Kees Zeelenberg a écrit : I have been using MikTeX for over 15 years (with LyX for over 10 years), and have never experienced such an automatic update that some have ascribed to it. To make sure, I have checked on the MikTeX issue tracker, with the following outcome. A user can configure MikTeX to install on the fly LaTeX-packages that are required by his/her document. But MikTeX does never update automatically its executables or packages that have previously been installed; this has to be done manually through the MikTeX console. (https://github.com/MiKTeX/miktex/issues/342#issuecomment-512218341) In the past LyX was available in a bundle with MikTeX. During install, the LyX-installer did update MikTeX; so it was not MikTeX, but the LyX-installer that did the update, and caused problems. I checked the relevant bug report that concerned LyX to refresh my memory, and you are right indeed. MikTeX did break itself in a non easy to fix way, but it was because the update was triggered by our installer. https://github.com/MiKTeX/miktex/issues/82 JMarc
Re: Is latest Windows 10 (1809 prior to 1903-not installed) Update breaking Lyx 2.33 and MikTex?
On 17-Jul-19 3:00 PM, Kees Zeelenberg wrote: > Op 14-07-19 om 19:20 schreef Richard Kimberly Heck: >> On 7/14/19 12:26 PM, Brian Davis wrote: >> >> without more information. But contrary to what someone said here, MikTeX >> has an annoying habit of updating itself in the background and breaking >> things. We've seen it time and time again. The list archives are full of >> such problems. > > I have been using MikTeX for over 15 years (with LyX for over 10 > years), and have never experienced such an automatic update that some > have ascribed to it. To make sure, I have checked on the MikTeX issue > tracker, with the following outcome. A user can configure MikTeX to > install on the fly LaTeX-packages that are required by his/her > document. But MikTeX does never update automatically its executables > or packages that have previously been installed; this has to be done > manually through the MikTeX console. > (https://github.com/MiKTeX/miktex/issues/342#issuecomment-512218341) > > In the past LyX was available in a bundle with MikTeX. During install, > the LyX-installer did update MikTeX; so it was not MikTeX, but the > LyX-installer that did the update, and caused problems. > > +1 -- ↓↓ Please bottom-post. Start your reply here:
Re: Is latest Windows 10 (1809 prior to 1903-not installed) Update breaking Lyx 2.33 and MikTex?
Op 14-07-19 om 19:20 schreef Richard Kimberly Heck: On 7/14/19 12:26 PM, Brian Davis wrote: without more information. But contrary to what someone said here, MikTeX has an annoying habit of updating itself in the background and breaking things. We've seen it time and time again. The list archives are full of such problems. I have been using MikTeX for over 15 years (with LyX for over 10 years), and have never experienced such an automatic update that some have ascribed to it. To make sure, I have checked on the MikTeX issue tracker, with the following outcome. A user can configure MikTeX to install on the fly LaTeX-packages that are required by his/her document. But MikTeX does never update automatically its executables or packages that have previously been installed; this has to be done manually through the MikTeX console. (https://github.com/MiKTeX/miktex/issues/342#issuecomment-512218341) In the past LyX was available in a bundle with MikTeX. During install, the LyX-installer did update MikTeX; so it was not MikTeX, but the LyX-installer that did the update, and caused problems.
Re: Is latest Windows 10 (1809 prior to 1903-not installed) Update breaking Lyx 2.33 and MikTex?
On 16-Jul-19 8:29 PM, Brian Davis wrote: Win 10 Enterprise box this morning still requires admin mode to generate pdf. So at least there is stable insanity there. stable insanity: this one of the best quotes ever. I hope you problems are solved before it get to unstable+chaotic insanity... Good Luck! -- ↓↓ Please bottom-post. Start your reply here:
Re: Is latest Windows 10 (1809 prior to 1903-not installed) Update breaking Lyx 2.33 and MikTex?
User directory: ~\AppData\Roaming\LyX2.3\ > > Did you check permissions on this directory? > Permissions were same on the directory. > Is it the same user directory whether you run it in administrator mode or > not? > Another trick question? On windows my understanding is ~ is current user which would remain same user in this case bdavis as Windows does not switch to Administrator, but only elevates the privileges of current user to Administrator. The permissions on the directory do no change as it is the same directory and permissions do not change on a directory just by becoming Adminstrator... err well provided the software is actually using that directory is it? On Linux I would assume ~ would switch to root. > Was MikTeX installed for one user or for all users? > I always install for all users. > Same question for LyX. A mismatch between those could cause a problem. > Again same. I always install for all users. Strangely on Win 10 Pro box this morning LyX no longer requires me to run in Administrator mode to have article.cls show up as available. Something is changing out from under the hood on Windows/LyX/MikTeX combo to the point it could mess with a persons sanity. A Dell update may have been applied. This is one of the most bizarre user experiences I have had. It's like owning one of those cars where the insulation of the wires are made from soybeans and squirrels get all up in under the hood to create havoc chewing on the wires or like the cars with CAN network issues requiring the use of the left turn signal to roll down the right rear passenger window. Win 10 Enterprise box this morning still requires admin mode to generate pdf. So at least there is stable insanity there.
Re: Is latest Windows 10 (1809 prior to 1903-not installed) Update breaking Lyx 2.33 and MikTex?
On 7/14/19 3:46 PM, Brian Davis wrote: > > > On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 12:22 PM Richard Kimberly Heck > mailto:rikih...@lyx.org>> wrote: > > On 7/14/19 1:10 PM, Brian Davis wrote: > > > > I checked the Windows 10 Pro box and ran LyX in: > > > > non administrator mode and it reported: "Unavailable" for > Article.cls > > administrator mode and it reported Article.cls as available. > > Can you check what the user directory is in these two cases? You can > find that under Help> About LyX. Also check the permissions on that > directory. Configuration will fail if LyX cannot write to that > directory. > > Riki > > > > Win 10 Pro box: > > LyX Version 2.3.3 > > (Monday, June 10, 2019) > > Library directory: C:\Program Files (x86)\LyX 2.3\Resources\ > > User directory: ~\AppData\Roaming\LyX2.3\ > Did you check permissions on this directory? Is it the same user directory whether you run it in administrator mode or not? Was MikTeX installed for one user or for all users? Same question for LyX. A mismatch between those could cause a problem. Riki
Re: Is latest Windows 10 (1809 prior to 1903-not installed) Update breaking Lyx 2.33 and MikTex?
Le 14/07/2019 à 20:46, Brian Davis a écrit : I have had a great deal of experience in trying to convince developers of problems. It is not sarcasm, just statement of fact. Devs do not believe me until I prove it to them or they experience for themselves. Let's cut to the core of the issue : we have presumably many Windows users, but no developer who principally uses windows. We know about the problem and are trying to attract some (Jürgen WS, are you readning this ;). Besides this, I would say that this days the team is composed of 10 people, who have a variable amount of time to spend for LyX; We can add to that 2 or 3 non programmers really committed to help (and who do help). So, while we do have automated testing to check that code compiles, that document import/export works in as many situations as possible, while we do run our code though static analysis code to detect bugs, there are holes in the racket. One of this holes is being able to help users when some particular situation makes his/her box behave differently from others. And, yes, on this front we are pretty much in reactive mode. This is all we can afford. That's understandable. Something they might do say if the followed my "Schorched Earth" instructions on a Win 10 box with latest updates. Or if they were performing test cases as Win 10 and MikTeX updates rolled out. Likely people do not believe me as my street cred on the internet super highway is below some threshold as determined by some AI deep inside the bowels of AWS. It did not cross my mind that people do not believe you. The issue is more that your system does not work like other systems work, and we need to see what is the point that is different. The fact that you see this issue on many different systems where you install suggest to possibilities to me: 1/ there is something special at you site (network drives, weird proxies, whatever) that lead to the issue 2/ you install in a creative way that does not work Either way, we have to determine what the actual problem is in order to fix it. JMarc
Re: Is latest Windows 10 (1809 prior to 1903-not installed) Update breaking Lyx 2.33 and MikTex?
On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 12:22 PM Richard Kimberly Heck wrote: > On 7/14/19 1:10 PM, Brian Davis wrote: > > > > I checked the Windows 10 Pro box and ran LyX in: > > > > non administrator mode and it reported: "Unavailable" for Article.cls > > administrator mode and it reported Article.cls as available. > > Can you check what the user directory is in these two cases? You can > find that under Help> About LyX. Also check the permissions on that > directory. Configuration will fail if LyX cannot write to that directory. > > Riki > > > Win 10 Pro box: LyX Version 2.3.3 (Monday, June 10, 2019) Library directory: C:\Program Files (x86)\LyX 2.3\Resources\ User directory: ~\AppData\Roaming\LyX2.3\ Qt Version (run-time): 5.11.3 Qt Version (compile-time): 5.11.3 Win Enterprise Box LyX Version 2.3.2-2 (Sunday, December 30, 2018) Library directory: C:\Program Files (x86)\LyX 2.3\Resources\ User directory: ~\AppData\Roaming\LyX2.3\ Qt Version (run-time): 5.10.1 Qt Version (compile-time): 5.10.1 Now you got me curious to upgrade the Win 10 Enterprise box to 2.3.3 and latest MikTeX to see if I can completely break that one. It is running basic-miktex-2.9.7031-x64.exe confirmed via MikTeX Console. It is working on thesis in admin mode, but does show article.cls as available in user mode. I am experiencing slightly different modes of brokenness between the two as stated. Advisors Enterprise box is unknown Versions at this time.
Re: Is latest Windows 10 (1809 prior to 1903-not installed) Update breaking Lyx 2.33 and MikTex?
> > Any thoughts by Devs on if this is a real problem knowing that us > > users can't be believed? > > What's with the sarcasm? It doesn't tend to get one help. > > I have had a great deal of experience in trying to convince developers of problems. It is not sarcasm, just statement of fact. Devs do not believe me until I prove it to them or they experience for themselves. That's understandable. Something they might do say if the followed my "Schorched Earth" instructions on a Win 10 box with latest updates. Or if they were performing test cases as Win 10 and MikTeX updates rolled out. Likely people do not believe me as my street cred on the internet super highway is below some threshold as determined by some AI deep inside the bowels of AWS. I don't take it personally... recommend do same with my comments. Then I get I don't have access to a Win 10 box or we can't run test cases for every potential unknown problem... I get that... alot. How about for known problems like say the ones in the list archives are full of, are there test cases for these? Are they run and tested... and looked at before release? Then in comes that LyX and MikTeX combo and variant use cases are too broad and all cannot be tested... yep there is certainly a chaos tree fan-out on the problem of all the ways it can be used and abused. Yes the exact failure method is unknown. Maybe it is windows update, possibly MikTeX update or install, maybe LyX or installer not flipping some bit to make Windows completely satisfied, could be gremlins, or planetary alignment. Say have you tried installing LyX (latest) and MikTeX (Latest) on Windows 10 Pro/Enterprise/Home (latest) and running the crazy use case of compiling the default article.cls to see if it generates a PDF or article.cls appearing as "Unavailable" like I have been reporting problems with? Then switching LyX to Admin mode as experiencing how it then works? There is active problem detection and reactive bug detection. Having just installed latest on latest windows build I am sensing a reactive approach to finding problems. The argument could come... well how are we to know if a new version of windows or MikTeX breaks the system. Possible answer: automated build and test continuous integration system. > Anyway, yes, permission problems can be an issue on Windows, especially > with MikTeX, which is part of why we have stopped bundling it with LyX > itself. > > Well that seemed to solve the permissions problem right? sigh. I used these until the were no longer supported as I though they were more likely to work as the combo must have been tested together. > Obviously, if it was working and now isn't, then something changed. > Whether that had to do with some update involving MikTeX is hard to say > without more information. But contrary to what someone said here, MikTeX > has an annoying habit of updating itself in the background and breaking > things. We've seen it time and time again. The list archives are full of > such problems. > Yes it was working and now it is not. Likely as I stated due to some windows update that rolled out best I can tell. More information? How about trying a fresh install of latest everything on a Windows 10 box with all the updates? I am running latest 1903 on win 10 box and again just checking if LyX can see article.cls in Document->Settings causes problems. Agreed on MikTeX Are "list archive problems" transmogrified into test cases? > > It could be something else, too, involving Windows itself. Again, hard > to know without more information, but one possibility is that the > environment in which LyX is being run is somehow wrong. We've seen cases > in which it works when launched from a terminal, but not when launched > via the icon. > > One could argue that Windows 10 is a wrong environment by definition ;-) , but seriously I do think it appears to be win 10 updates breaking LyX and MikTeX interaction again best I can tell. That's not meant to imply that LyX has a problem, but rather the carpet got swiped out from underneath it by Windows changing or now enforcing permissions or possibly changes by MikTeX. I have a work around and I am continuing on with that. Debugging my systems via email I would think would be a horribly inefficient way of finding the problem vs just checking out latest builds on an up-to-date Win 10 box (or VM) of your choosing and seeing if what I am saying is happening. There appears at least one other person in this thread to is experiencing same as I am. We cannot be, for long, isolated cases.
Re: Is latest Windows 10 (1809 prior to 1903-not installed) Update breaking Lyx 2.33 and MikTex?
On 7/14/19 1:10 PM, Brian Davis wrote: > > I checked the Windows 10 Pro box and ran LyX in: > > non administrator mode and it reported: "Unavailable" for Article.cls > administrator mode and it reported Article.cls as available. Can you check what the user directory is in these two cases? You can find that under Help> About LyX. Also check the permissions on that directory. Configuration will fail if LyX cannot write to that directory. Riki
Re: Is latest Windows 10 (1809 prior to 1903-not installed) Update breaking Lyx 2.33 and MikTex?
On 7/14/19 12:26 PM, Brian Davis wrote: > Having an epiphany this morning, after a third cup of coffee with the > grounds at the bottom (the stiff stuff). I thought what if I try > running LyX in administrator mode? > > I switched back to the Win 10 Enterprise with my UW thesis because > ultimately that is what I need to get working. I did try rolling back > to 5 various versions on the thesis using git and this failed for > every previous version I tried... versions I am certain worked on the > version of LyX and MikTeX that have not changed on the machine. > Then I ran LyX in administrator mode and compiled exact version that > previously failed and it worked (with errors as typical) and showed > the dialog with "Show Output Anyway" which once clicked as before now > shows the pdf again. > > I think there is a very real problem on Win 10 Pro, Win 10 Enterprise > of permissions between LyX and MikTeX. > > But hey at least as administrator I can get my Thesis to be generated. > > Any thoughts by Devs on if this is a real problem knowing that us > users can't be believed? What's with the sarcasm? It doesn't tend to get one help. Anyway, yes, permission problems can be an issue on Windows, especially with MikTeX, which is part of why we have stopped bundling it with LyX itself. Obviously, if it was working and now isn't, then something changed. Whether that had to do with some update involving MikTeX is hard to say without more information. But contrary to what someone said here, MikTeX has an annoying habit of updating itself in the background and breaking things. We've seen it time and time again. The list archives are full of such problems. It could be something else, too, involving Windows itself. Again, hard to know without more information, but one possibility is that the environment in which LyX is being run is somehow wrong. We've seen cases in which it works when launched from a terminal, but not when launched via the icon. Riki
Re: Is latest Windows 10 (1809 prior to 1903-not installed) Update breaking Lyx 2.33 and MikTex?
I checked the Windows 10 Pro box and ran LyX in: non administrator mode and it reported: "Unavailable" for Article.cls administrator mode and it reported Article.cls as available. Something fishy is going on in Windows 10 privileges and folder access between LyX and MikTeX.
Re: Is latest Windows 10 (1809 prior to 1903-not installed) Update breaking Lyx 2.33 and MikTex?
@Andrew Parsloe --- When you reinstalled LyX did you retain your preferences? If so, then try renaming the file C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\LyX2.3 to (say) C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\LyX2.3old and then start LyX. This will create a pristine LyX2.3 folder and subdirectories. See if that cures the article.cls problem. I've had occasions when something has gone wrong in my preferences file and this has done the trick. If it does solve the problem, then copy back the subdirectories one by one from LyX2.3old to the new LyX2.3 and start LyX after each copy to see when the problem re-emerges. --- Yes specifically: Zip Lyx user dir stuff in AppData Uninstall LyX with check box to remove all user data I did think of that one. Note that I may have recently figured out that it is a Win 10 Pro/Enterprise and possibly Home (though I cannot verify) permissions change between folders on Win 10 like between MikTeX and LyX dirs. Running LyX in Administrator mode now allows me to generate PDF on the Win 10 Enterprise Machine... I will now try the trick on the Win 10 Pro box.
Re: Is latest Windows 10 (1809 prior to 1903-not installed) Update breaking Lyx 2.33 and MikTex?
Having an epiphany this morning, after a third cup of coffee with the grounds at the bottom (the stiff stuff). I thought what if I try running LyX in administrator mode? I switched back to the Win 10 Enterprise with my UW thesis because ultimately that is what I need to get working. I did try rolling back to 5 various versions on the thesis using git and this failed for every previous version I tried... versions I am certain worked on the version of LyX and MikTeX that have not changed on the machine. Then I ran LyX in administrator mode and compiled exact version that previously failed and it worked (with errors as typical) and showed the dialog with "Show Output Anyway" which once clicked as before now shows the pdf again. I think there is a very real problem on Win 10 Pro, Win 10 Enterprise of permissions between LyX and MikTeX. But hey at least as administrator I can get my Thesis to be generated. Any thoughts by Devs on if this is a real problem knowing that us users can't be believed?
Re: Is latest Windows 10 (1809 prior to 1903-not installed) Update breaking Lyx 2.33 and MikTex?
On 14/07/2019 5:57 AM, Brian Davis wrote: Performing operation scorched earth (a play by play): Zip Lyx user dir stuff in AppData Uninstall MikTeX Laugh at MikTex Uninstall Delete cruft MikTeX leaves behind in C:\Program Files (x86) Uninstall LyX with check box to remove all user data Reboot machine. Install MikTex basic-miktex-2.9.7100-x64.exe Select Letter Select Auto install dependencies Click through Install LyX LyX-233-Installer-1.exe Click through Wait for MikTex LyX to check and download any packages. Watch paint dry Count the popcorn on the ceiling Contemplate the meaning of life Could we detect life on exoplanets by looking near atmosphere for space junk... h? One persons junk is another persons treasure. LyX/MikTex still spinning. Could coronal mass ejections (CME) (millions of tons of matter) be redirected towards earth or moon using magneto hydrodynamics and a series of satellites to create the largest 3D Universal (as in solar system) Printer in the universe? Possibly even separate the matter stream for various matter types? Say space mining on steroids? Hmm lets submit that question to GSFC public portal done. Hey LyX is done installing Finally Check Launch LyX Open my test.lyx Check for document creation using eyes icon to generate pdf. Works Check Document -> Settings Document Class reads: Unavailable: Article (Standard Class) Wait... what ... How can it generate a pdf if the cls file cannot be found by LyX. At least now it is generating the pdf file, but how? What da h#!!? I even switched the document class to another unavailable Article class the one with Extra Font Sizes and received an error about not being able to compile the document t yada... yada ...yada and IT STILL COMPILES AND GENERATES A PDF... What is going on? Do I need to post a YouTube vid on this bizarro experience? I am thoroughly confused. When you reinstalled LyX did you retain your preferences? If so, then try renaming the file C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\LyX2.3 to (say) C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\LyX2.3old and then start LyX. This will create a pristine LyX2.3 folder and subdirectories. See if that cures the article.cls problem. I've had occasions when something has gone wrong in my preferences file and this has done the trick. If it does solve the problem, then copy back the subdirectories one by one from LyX2.3old to the new LyX2.3 and start LyX after each copy to see when the problem re-emerges. Andrew
Re: Is latest Windows 10 (1809 prior to 1903-not installed) Update breaking Lyx 2.33 and MikTex?
Ok I know bottom post, but think I need to inline comment on this > OK. Here is the thing: > > I had similar experiences on my students PCs. The problem maybe related to > Windows+Miktex as follows: > > In the past year Microsoft did some changes to the administrative and > security bits of Windows. I do not exactly what it is, but we are > observing it. > > Parallel to these changes in the OS, we also observe how programs such as > MikTex, SourceTree, VS Code and etc. change their way of installing on the > PC. > Yes this has been my thought as well as possibly install of LyX in C:\Programs ... and MikTeX in C:\Programs ... where LyX cannot see into MikTeX possibly with windows updates rolling in. > My understanding is that programs are installed either for all users or > for the current user only. If the program is installed for all users, it is > located under the Program Files folder or a folder you select. If it is > installed only for one user, it is installed to somewhere under > C:\Users\*username*\AppData\. > I installed both LyX and MikTeX for All Users. > Depending on where it is installed LyX may have difficulty to access > properly to MikTeX, even if you may have your files installed properly. > Yes!!! This seems like the issue where LyX says it cannot see article.cls as "Unavailable" can now generate it when it sends command to MikTeX to generate after my scorched earth reinstall on Win 10 Pro box. This is also related to the Windows version you have. I observed these > problems a lot on Windows 10 home-type, single language kind-of version. My > students have laptops that come with a preinstalled Windows 10, and this > version of Windows 10 is not generally a professional version. > Personal laptop is Windows 10 Professional now with latest 1903 and updates. I upgraded win 10 pro box hoping it would help, it did not. School laptop is Windows 10 Enterprise image from the school. Advisor computer is ??, but if managed by school likely Win 10 Enterprise as well. > I did not have these issues on my PC, which I have a Windows 10 comes from > the university and it is professional/enterprise type version. > This has been my experience too with Win 10 Enterprise machines working *mostly* minus the withesis on Advisors laptop and now on my School laptop. However I am going to commit my thesis into git roll back and see if it works with prior version as it could be the convergence of two problems. 1) Issue described above regarding various flavors of win 10 (Professional versions having issues) and 2) could be something in LyX / LaTeX stuff being sent to MikTeX causing it to spin to infinity (on Win 10 Enterprise). I have had this problem on Windows 10 Professional so I can attest that is likely Win 10 Enterprise that is partially immune for now! > So the problem may be related to this. This sort of problem is generally > fixable. Even it the problem is due to some other issue, It is worth to try > it some fixes. Here is my suggestion: > > *On one of the PCs that you are flexible to try, uninstall all MikTex and > LyX. Remove all files under the user folders as well. MikTeX put some files > under C:\Users\*username*\AppData\Local\. LyX puts some files under > C:\Users\*username*\AppData\Roaming\ > Ok I did something similar in my Scorched Earth post where I checked the box to have LyX remove the files in AppData removing my user settings and custom layout files. > *Create a new user from Windows. Give full admin privileges to that user. > Make sure the user name is a single word without spaces. The folder under > the C:\User for this new account should be single word. > Yes my current user is 1 word and and has admin. > *Login to the new account. > > *Start MikTeX setup with right-click "Run as Administrator" > Installs always switch to Administrator mode, but I can try the uber paranoid approach ;-) > * Install MikTeX to a folder under C:\ or to the root of another drive, > but not to C:\program files. > Ok will try this. > * Install MikTeX **for all users** --not for a single user-- (very > important) > I always do this. > * Select the option of install packages on the fly. > Yep check. I always do this as the alternative is not really an option. > * Highly recommended: install all packages right after the first setup. > This may take couple of hours. > My connection is better than carrier pigeons, but not by much. More like a carrier fleet of carrier pigeons all working in unison. > * Refresh file name database, refresh font maps and update package list. > Yes I have done this before > * If you have a custom class file (e.g. your thesis class file), create a > localtexmf folder under C:\ and place the custom class files to > C:\localtexmf\tex\latex\ folder > I have not been doing this with my thesis as yet, but have in past as I have been trying to figure out the article.cls problem, but if it is a Windows access problem then I can try to continue on.
Re: Is latest Windows 10 (1809 prior to 1903-not installed) Update breaking Lyx 2.33 and MikTex?
Le 13/07/2019 à 21:05, Brian Davis a écrit : I tried again to get it to work on my advisors computer this Wednesday and failed with same error as I am now seeing on my other two laptops, though with varying degrees. So uhhh yeah you could say I am in a hurry for my thesis at least so I can start revisions with my Advisor. Could LyX be reporting Unavailable when in reality the cls and deps are there? Is this a bug in LyX? I do not know, do you have a particular setup? This stuff has been working for some time. LyX does not check by itself that the files are there, it asks LaTeX whether they can be found. So you may be seeing a MikTex issue. You could try to install texlive instead of MikTex, as is officially advised these days. Texlive does not have the 'interesting' auto update feature that makes life with MikTex more 'lively'. Good luck, JMarc
Re: Is latest Windows 10 (1809 prior to 1903-not installed) Update breaking Lyx 2.33 and MikTex?
>From Baris Erkus - Hello, I am following your post and would like to help. I am swamped with a paper now, are you in hurry for your thesis? -- ↓↓ Please bottom-post. Start your reply here: - Is that a trick question? Ok let me frame this. My advisor has been wanting to see my Thesis for the past month. Which I shared through Box and requires syncing to his computer. After installing LyX MikTeX a couple of months ago only and writing a step by step guide to install MikTeX, LyX, and necessary UW-Madtown withesis to find it not working when we actually tried it. I upgraded all the machines to Latest MikTeX and LyX. I then had to update all the howto docs and get it to work on his computer. Time then passes due to 4th. One machine works(sort of)/worked and it now works for article.cls as a test, but not when generating the thesis. It did work. My personal laptop did not work for article.cls as a test but after uninstall/reinstall a article.cls dependent .lyx file will generate. See prior "Scorched Earth" post. However... get this LyX still reports it as Unavailable in Document -> Settings. The School computer (not Advisors computer) reports article.cls as there and can generate. When using withesis which did work piror (a couple of weeks ago) no longer compiles and times out with spinning wheel at bottom of LyX and error screens to confine and ultimately unable to generate using pdflatex. I also have my Thesis tracked in git and will commit an roll back to see if School machine, the machine that has been most successful of late, can create the pdf. I tried again to get it to work on my advisors computer this Wednesday and failed with same error as I am now seeing on my other two laptops, though with varying degrees. So uhhh yeah you could say I am in a hurry for my thesis at least so I can start revisions with my Advisor. Could LyX be reporting Unavailable when in reality the cls and deps are there? Is this a bug in LyX?
Re: Is latest Windows 10 (1809 prior to 1903-not installed) Update breaking Lyx 2.33 and MikTex?
>From Andrew: - l3backend was the only missing package I was aware of. There are various MiKTeX log files available. You need to dig deep to find them. On my system they're at C:\Users\Andrew\AppData\Local\MiKTeX\2.9\miktex\log See which ones are getting added to when you try to run LyX (sort them by date/time) - I am the embodiment of the digital age frogman. Digging deep is what I do. Parse it, hex edit, sed, grep, and awk, compile, decompile, debug, and log... bit@bitbucket MINGW64 ~/AppData/Local/MiKTeX/2.9/miktex/log $ ls -rt * | xargs grep cls kpsewhich.log:2019-07-13 11:32:46,821-0500 INFO kpsewhich - starting with command line: kpsewhich.exe article.cls latex.log:2017-11-15 13:33:53,532-0600 INFO latex - installing package ieeetran triggered by tex\latex\ieeetran\IEEEtran.cls latex.log:2017-11-15 13:34:00,298-0600 INFO latex - installing package a0poster triggered by tex\latex\a0poster\a0poster.cls latex.log:2017-11-15 13:34:03,097-0600 INFO latex - installing package aastex triggered by tex\latex\aastex\aastex6.cls latex.log:2017-11-15 13:34:10,346-0600 INFO latex - installing package achemso triggered by tex\latex\achemso\achemso.cls latex.log:2017-11-15 13:34:28,377-0600 INFO latex - installing package aguplus triggered by tex\latex\aguplus\aguplus.cls latex.log:2017-11-15 13:34:31,743-0600 INFO latex - installing package apa6 triggered by tex\latex\apa6\apa6.cls latex.log:2017-11-15 13:34:41,925-0600 INFO latex - installing package apa triggered by tex\latex\apa\apa.cls latex.log:2017-11-15 13:34:44,424-0600 INFO latex - installing package arabtex triggered by tex\latex\arabtex\arabart.cls latex.log:2017-11-15 13:35:05,887-0600 INFO latex - installing package ctex triggered by tex\latex\ctex\ctexart.cls latex.log:2017-11-15 13:35:16,936-0600 INFO latex - installing package dinbrief triggered by tex\latex\dinbrief\dinbrief.cls latex.log:2017-11-15 13:35:23,718-0600 INFO latex - installing package dtk triggered by tex\latex\dtk\dtk.cls latex.log:2017-11-15 13:35:36,352-0600 INFO latex - installing package elsarticle triggered by tex\latex\elsarticle\elsarticle.cls latex.log:2017-11-15 13:35:39,934-0600 INFO latex - installing package elsevier triggered by tex\latex\elsevier\elsart.cls latex.log:2017-11-15 13:35:43,356-0600 INFO latex - installing package europasscv triggered by tex\latex\europasscv\europasscv.cls latex.log:2017-11-15 13:35:59,061-0600 INFO latex - installing package europecv triggered by tex\latex\europecv\europecv.cls latex.log:2017-11-15 13:36:09,248-0600 INFO latex - installing package extsizes triggered by tex\latex\extsizes\extarticle.cls latex.log:2017-11-15 13:36:11,701-0600 INFO latex - installing package frletter triggered by tex\latex\frletter\frletter.cls latex.log:2017-11-15 13:36:13,764-0600 INFO latex - installing package g-brief triggered by tex\latex\g-brief\g-brief2.cls latex.log:2017-11-15 13:36:16,498-0600 INFO latex - installing package platex triggered by tex\platex\base\jarticle.cls latex.log:2017-11-15 13:36:23,716-0600 INFO latex - installing package jsclasses triggered by tex\platex\jsclasses\jsarticle.cls latex.log:2017-11-15 13:36:34,419-0600 INFO latex - installing package kluwer triggered by tex\latex\kluwer\kluwer.cls latex.log:2017-11-15 13:36:37,278-0600 INFO latex - installing package lettre triggered by tex\latex\lettre\lettre.cls latex.log:2017-11-15 13:36:41,169-0600 INFO latex - installing package tugboat triggered by tex\latex\tugboat\ltugboat.cls latex.log:2017-11-15 13:36:44,872-0600 INFO latex - installing package memoir triggered by tex\latex\memoir\memoir.cls latex.log:2017-11-15 13:36:53,574-0600 INFO latex - installing package moderncv triggered by tex\latex\moderncv\moderncv.cls latex.log:2017-11-15 13:37:11,808-0600 INFO latex - installing package mwcls triggered by tex\latex\mwcls\mwart.cls latex.log:2017-11-15 13:37:11,933-0600 INFO latex - mpm: downloading ftp://ftp.fernuni-hagen.de/pub/mirrors/www.ctan.org/systems/win32/miktex/tm/packages/mwcls.tar.lzma. .. latex.log:2017-11-15 13:37:13,745-0600 INFO latex - mpm: extracting files from mwcls.tar.lzma... latex.log:2017-11-15 13:37:15,823-0600 INFO latex - installing package paper triggered by tex\latex\paper\paper.cls latex.log:2017-11-15 13:37:19,948-0600 INFO latex - installing package powerdot triggered by tex\latex\powerdot\powerdot.cls latex.log:2017-11-15 13:37:27,557-0600 INFO latex - installing package koma-script triggered by tex\latex\koma-script\scrbook.cls latex.log:2017-11-15 13:37:49,087-0600 INFO latex - installing package revtex triggered by tex\latex\revtex\revtex4-1.cls latex.log:2017-11-15 13:38:01,604-0600 INFO latex - installing package revtex4 triggered by tex\latex\revtex4\revtex4.cls latex.log:2017-11-15 13:38:05,573-0600 INFO latex - installing package sciposter triggered by tex\latex\sciposter\sciposter.cls latex.log:2017-11-15 13:38:08,683-0600 INFO latex - installing package seminar triggered by
Re: Is latest Windows 10 (1809 prior to 1903-not installed) Update breaking Lyx 2.33 and MikTex?
On 13-Jul-19 8:57 PM, Brian Davis wrote: > Performing operation scorched earth (a play by play): > > Zip Lyx user dir stuff in AppData > Uninstall MikTeX > Laugh at MikTex Uninstall > Delete cruft MikTeX leaves behind in C:\Program Files (x86) > Uninstall LyX with check box to remove all user data > > Reboot machine. > > Install MikTex basic-miktex-2.9.7100-x64.exe > Select Letter > Select Auto install dependencies > Click through > > Install LyX LyX-233-Installer-1.exe > Click through > Wait for MikTex LyX to check and download any packages. > Watch paint dry > Count the popcorn on the ceiling > Contemplate the meaning of life > Could we detect life on exoplanets by looking near atmosphere for > space junk... h? One persons junk is another persons treasure. > LyX/MikTex still spinning. > Could coronal mass ejections (CME) (millions of tons of matter) be > redirected towards earth or moon using magneto hydrodynamics and a > series of satellites to create the largest 3D Universal (as in solar > system) Printer in the universe? Possibly even separate the matter > stream for various matter types? Say space mining on steroids? Hmm > lets submit that question to GSFC public portal done. > Hey LyX is done installing > Finally > Check Launch LyX > > Open my test.lyx > Check for document creation using eyes icon to generate pdf. > Works > Check Document -> Settings > Document Class reads: Unavailable: Article (Standard Class) > > Wait... what ... How can it generate a pdf if the cls file cannot be > found by LyX. > At least now it is generating the pdf file, but how? > What da h#!!? > I even switched the document class to another unavailable Article > class the one with Extra Font Sizes and received an error about not > being able to compile the document t yada... yada ...yada and IT STILL > COMPILES AND GENERATES A PDF... What is going on? > > Do I need to post a YouTube vid on this bizarro experience? > > I am thoroughly confused. > Hello, I am following your post and would like to help. I am swamped with a paper now, are you in hurry for your thesis? -- ↓↓ Please bottom-post. Start your reply here:
Re: Is latest Windows 10 (1809 prior to 1903-not installed) Update breaking Lyx 2.33 and MikTex?
Performing operation scorched earth (a play by play): Zip Lyx user dir stuff in AppData Uninstall MikTeX Laugh at MikTex Uninstall Delete cruft MikTeX leaves behind in C:\Program Files (x86) Uninstall LyX with check box to remove all user data Reboot machine. Install MikTex basic-miktex-2.9.7100-x64.exe Select Letter Select Auto install dependencies Click through Install LyX LyX-233-Installer-1.exe Click through Wait for MikTex LyX to check and download any packages. Watch paint dry Count the popcorn on the ceiling Contemplate the meaning of life Could we detect life on exoplanets by looking near atmosphere for space junk... h? One persons junk is another persons treasure. LyX/MikTex still spinning. Could coronal mass ejections (CME) (millions of tons of matter) be redirected towards earth or moon using magneto hydrodynamics and a series of satellites to create the largest 3D Universal (as in solar system) Printer in the universe? Possibly even separate the matter stream for various matter types? Say space mining on steroids? Hmm lets submit that question to GSFC public portal done. Hey LyX is done installing Finally Check Launch LyX Open my test.lyx Check for document creation using eyes icon to generate pdf. Works Check Document -> Settings Document Class reads: Unavailable: Article (Standard Class) Wait... what ... How can it generate a pdf if the cls file cannot be found by LyX. At least now it is generating the pdf file, but how? What da h#!!? I even switched the document class to another unavailable Article class the one with Extra Font Sizes and received an error about not being able to compile the document t yada... yada ...yada and IT STILL COMPILES AND GENERATES A PDF... What is going on? Do I need to post a YouTube vid on this bizarro experience? I am thoroughly confused.
Re: Is latest Windows 10 (1809 prior to 1903-not installed) Update breaking Lyx 2.33 and MikTex?
MikTeX comes with its own kpsewhich. You may check whether MikTeX can find e.g. article.cls by giving the command (in a command prompt window): kpsewhich article.cls Kees As suspected MikTeX sees it c:\Program Files (x86)\MiKTeX 2.9\miktex\bin>kpsewhich.exe article.cls kpsewhich: warning: running with administrator privileges C:/Program Files (x86)/MiKTeX 2.9/tex/latex/base/article.cls LyX not so much How to check if LyX is "Reconfigured" correctly? I have never been here with LyX and MikTeX which I am sure is some sort of right of passage that all must experience at some point, but it still beats Word in referencing, in line notes, equations, tables, figures, referencing, tables, figure refs, tables, and did I mention tables. Sigh... various versions of word could not even understand it's own table format over the years. I checked the other machine that I said was working and it does for article.cls but not for withesis which is off UW website and I hacked it in with lyx layout. The current machine I am on can't even find article.cls. All good fun. Anyone know of some good caves I can scratch my thesis on?
Re: Is latest Windows 10 (1809 prior to 1903-not installed) Update breaking Lyx 2.33 and MikTex?
Op 12-07-19 om 21:36 schreef Brian Davis: @Andrew Parsloe I tried installing I3backend and "Reconfigure" / Restart Lyx and no dice. I also checked for article.cls and MikTeX states Itxbase is installed but LyX states it is still unavailable. Any other packages? that you may have also installed? Thx B MikTeX comes with its own kpsewhich. You may check whether MikTeX can find e.g. article.cls by giving the command (in a command prompt window): kpsewhich article.cls Kees
Re: Is latest Windows 10 (1809 prior to 1903-not installed) Update breaking Lyx 2.33 and MikTex?
Op 12-07-19 om 19:29 schreef Richard Kimberly Heck: On 7/12/19 11:07 AM, Pavel Sanda wrote: Sounds like MikTeX updated packages in background :) Sounds like an old and very sad story. Riki MikTeX never updates packages by itself (in the background); you must always do that actively yourself through the MikTeX console. Kees
Re: Is latest Windows 10 (1809 prior to 1903-not installed) Update breaking Lyx 2.33 and MikTex?
On 13/07/2019 7:36 AM, Brian Davis wrote: @Andrew Parsloe I tried installing I3backend and "Reconfigure" / Restart Lyx and no dice. I also checked for article.cls and MikTeX states Itxbase is installed but LyX states it is still unavailable. Any other packages? that you may have also installed? Thx B l3backend was the only missing package I was aware of. There are various MiKTeX log files available. You need to dig deep to find them. On my system they're at C:\Users\Andrew\AppData\Local\MiKTeX\2.9\miktex\log See which ones are getting added to when you try to run LyX (sort them by date/time). Andrew
Re: Is latest Windows 10 (1809 prior to 1903-not installed) Update breaking Lyx 2.33 and MikTex?
@Andrew Parsloe I tried installing I3backend and "Reconfigure" / Restart Lyx and no dice. I also checked for article.cls and MikTeX states Itxbase is installed but LyX states it is still unavailable. Any other packages? that you may have also installed? Thx B
Re: Is latest Windows 10 (1809 prior to 1903-not installed) Update breaking Lyx 2.33 and MikTex?
On 7/12/19 11:07 AM, Pavel Sanda wrote: > On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 06:21:51PM -0500, Brian Davis wrote: >> How is it possible to have 3 working versions of LyX/MikTex on three >> different computers (all Windows) and have them all break within a couple >> of weeks without doing anything (except allowing Windows Updates)? > Sounds like MikTeX updated packages in background :) Sounds like an old and very sad story. Riki
Re: Is latest Windows 10 (1809 prior to 1903-not installed) Update breaking Lyx 2.33 and MikTex?
On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 10:41 PM Baris Erkus wrote: > On 12-Jul-19 2:21 AM, Brian Davis wrote: > > How is it possible to have 3 working versions of LyX/MikTex on three > different computers (all Windows) and have them all break within a couple > of weeks without doing anything (except allowing Windows Updates)? > > I have been receiving errors after latest windows updates on 3 different > machines all were running successfully LyX and MikTex and stopped working > out of the blue with the following type errors: > > The process latex icon bottom right just spins for minutes then: > > LyX: Stop command? > > The command pdflatex "test.txt" has not completed. > > Do you want to stop it? > > Stop it Let it run > > If Let it run: > > Does not matter which it will still fail either way. > > LyX: LaTeX failed: > > The external program > > pdflatex > > finished with an error. It is recommended you fix the cause of the > external program's error (check the logs) > > And right about now I certainly wish LyX would make the error text boxes > where the text can be copied an pasted into an email sigh. > > I currently upgraded to latest Lyx and MikTex and performed the typical > LyX -> Reconfigure and restart Lyx only to still find Unavailable: Article > (Standard Class) and still above errors as though LyX cannot find MikTex > even though Tools->TeX Information finds .cls files in the MikTex 2.9 > directory in Program Files (x86) > > basic-miktex-2.9.7100-x64.exe > > LyX Version 2.3.3 > > (Monday, June 10, 2019) > > Library directory: C:\Program Files (x86)\LyX 2.3\Resources\ > > User directory: ~\AppData\Roaming\LyX2.3\ > > Qt Version (run-time): 5.11.3 > > Qt Version (compile-time): 5.11.3 > > Anyone else experience this? > It is super-awesome! > > > > I have latest version of Windows 10: 1903 and just yesterday there was a > set of updates for 1903 itself. I have latest version of MikTeX, LaTex > packages (updated just now) and LyX (2.3.3). LyX works just fine on my PC. > > If your problem is a matter of a missing package, I have to tell you that > I have *full* install of LaTeX packages. I highly recommend to do that if > you have enough space on your PC, since LyX uses many packages that you are > now aware of. If they are not available in the current MikTeX installation, > LyX will try to install them by itself. However, recent changes in the > MikTeX setup (setup for a specific user and for the all users, allow on the > fly installs or not and etc...) may cause issues installing these missing > packages resulting LyX does not work properly. This happened to several of > my students' LyX. > > Again, this is the case if you have missing packages. You problem may be > very well related to another issue. > > -- > ↓↓ > Please bottom-post. Start your reply here: > > So I found out it works on 1 of the three machines so 2 (on personal laptop and other advisors laptop - you can imagine my frustration there) of 3 are not working after having been working which I find very odd. I am trying to determine why it works on the one and not the other 2. Ah yes the missing package... Lets just say I NEVER allow MikTex to Ask... and ask... and ask and ask again and again and again for missing packages as it becomes a full time job just to click the install button. Not sure why this is a "feature" of MikTex. So MikTex has free range to install what it wants on the 1TB SSD primary disk. Data I keep on the other 1TB Mech disk so its got plenty of space. Do you know if there is a disk hog check box in MikTex or install world setting? It does almost seem like LyX either cannot talk to MikTex, MikTex is missing something like article class (never seen this before) and some basics, or just runs off in the forest and times out after getting lost. Where does LyX go and why does it need to be stooped or let it run (off in the forest). I am all for free range so if LyX wants to run... I let it be free ... be free LyX. sigh. I checked MikTex for article class and it is found in: C:\Program Files (x86)\MiKTeX 2.9\tex\latex\base\article.cls Why would article.cls be in MikTex, but LyX reports "Unavailable: Article (Standard Class)" in Document->Settings after repeated "Reconfigure" and restarts of LyX? Is there a way to start verifying what LyX can see. I have looked at TeX information and article.cls does not appear there even after Tools->Reconfigure and restart LyX. Should it. Be nice if the TeX Information was searchable not that I mind paging through 4 pgs of cls files... programmers do know about search boxes these days right? I would settle for a lyx file generation like Help->LaTeX Configuration which I can then search. Or maybe a diagnostics lyx file showing all the broken bits. Like maybe it could say... I (LyX) have tried to contact MikText N times for 4
Re: Is latest Windows 10 (1809 prior to 1903-not installed) Update breaking Lyx 2.33 and MikTex?
On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 06:21:51PM -0500, Brian Davis wrote: > How is it possible to have 3 working versions of LyX/MikTex on three > different computers (all Windows) and have them all break within a couple > of weeks without doing anything (except allowing Windows Updates)? Sounds like MikTeX updated packages in background :) Pavel
Re: Is latest Windows 10 (1809 prior to 1903-not installed) Update breaking Lyx 2.33 and MikTex?
On 12/07/2019 11:21 AM, Brian Davis wrote: How is it possible to have 3 working versions of LyX/MikTex on three different computers (all Windows) and have them all break within a couple of weeks without doing anything (except allowing Windows Updates)? I have been receiving errors after latest windows updates on 3 different machines all were running successfully LyX and MikTex and stopped working out of the blue with the following type errors: The process latex icon bottom right just spins for minutes then: LyX: Stop command? The command pdflatex "test.txt" has not completed. Do you want to stop it? Stop it Let it run If Let it run: Does not matter which it will still fail either way. LyX: LaTeX failed: The external program pdflatex finished with an error. It is recommended you fix the cause of the external program's error (check the logs) And right about now I certainly wish LyX would make the error text boxes where the text can be copied an pasted into an email sigh. I currently upgraded to latest Lyx and MikTex and performed the typical LyX -> Reconfigure and restart Lyx only to still find Unavailable: Article (Standard Class) and still above errors as though LyX cannot find MikTex even though Tools->TeX Information finds .cls files in the MikTex 2.9 directory in Program Files (x86) basic-miktex-2.9.7100-x64.exe LyX Version 2.3.3 (Monday, June 10, 2019) Library directory: C:\Program Files (x86)\LyX 2.3\Resources\ User directory: ~\AppData\Roaming\LyX2.3\ Qt Version (run-time): 5.11.3 Qt Version (compile-time): 5.11.3 Anyone else experience this? It is super-awesome! I'm running LyX 2.3.3 with MiKTeX 2.9 on windows 10 without problems. However, after a MiKTeX update a week (or two? -- memory fades) ago I had a problem compiling documents which previously compiled successfully. There was a pdflatex error, the little circling busy sign continuing endlessly. The problem was the absence of the LaTeX3 package l3backend which is a new package required for the working of expl3.sty which LyX requires. Check whether you have l3backend installed. Andrew
Is latest Windows 10 (1809 prior to 1903-not installed) Update breaking Lyx 2.33 and MikTex?
How is it possible to have 3 working versions of LyX/MikTex on three different computers (all Windows) and have them all break within a couple of weeks without doing anything (except allowing Windows Updates)? I have been receiving errors after latest windows updates on 3 different machines all were running successfully LyX and MikTex and stopped working out of the blue with the following type errors: The process latex icon bottom right just spins for minutes then: LyX: Stop command? The command pdflatex "test.txt" has not completed. Do you want to stop it? Stop it Let it run If Let it run: Does not matter which it will still fail either way. LyX: LaTeX failed: The external program pdflatex finished with an error. It is recommended you fix the cause of the external program's error (check the logs) And right about now I certainly wish LyX would make the error text boxes where the text can be copied an pasted into an email sigh. I currently upgraded to latest Lyx and MikTex and performed the typical LyX -> Reconfigure and restart Lyx only to still find Unavailable: Article (Standard Class) and still above errors as though LyX cannot find MikTex even though Tools->TeX Information finds .cls files in the MikTex 2.9 directory in Program Files (x86) basic-miktex-2.9.7100-x64.exe LyX Version 2.3.3 (Monday, June 10, 2019) Library directory: C:\Program Files (x86)\LyX 2.3\Resources\ User directory: ~\AppData\Roaming\LyX2.3\ Qt Version (run-time): 5.11.3 Qt Version (compile-time): 5.11.3 Anyone else experience this? It is super-awesome!
