Re: Physical units
Could this be adapted in the documentation, please? We aren't responsible for documentation of external packages. I know that very well. I took my example from p. 95, section: 6.6.5.2. http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/LyX/Manuals/1.4.2/UserGuide.pdf " The protected space: It is used to tell LYX (and LATEX) not to break the line at that point. This may be necessary to avoid unlucky linebreaks, like in: A good documentation should weight no more than 1 kg. Obviously, it would be a good thing to put a protected space between “1” and “kg”. A protected space is set with Insert . Special Formatting . Protected Space or with C-Space." Maybe there issue disussed in this thread here could be added there? Regards, Tim
Re: Physical units
Miki Dovrat schrieb: I always wrote the units outside the math box. Your way seems to make more sense now. I usually write it also outside math using "Ctrl-Shift Space". Is there a difference between \textrm and \mathrm ? The font. \mathrm uses an upright math font, \textrm an upright font you selected in the document settings. regards Uwe
Re: Physical units
Tim Michelsen schrieb: Concerning units, don't forget that there is only a hlaf space between number and units. A half space is produced in LyX with the shortcut "Ctrl-Shift Space" (menu Insert-> Formatting -> Thin space), see also the attached example. Thank you for clarifying! I did try the packages units/SIunits but then changed and used all units with a protected space after the numbers as recommended in the documentation. It should definively be a _half_ space, which is automatically protected. This is defined in DIN EN ISO norms. Could this be adapted in the documentation, please? We aren't responsible for documentation of external packages. regards Uwe
Re: Physical units
Concerning units, don't forget that there is only a hlaf space between number and units. A half space is produced in LyX with the shortcut "Ctrl-Shift Space" (menu Insert-> Formatting -> Thin space), see also the attached example. Thank you for clarifying! I did try the packages units/SIunits but then changed and used all units with a protected space after the numbers as recommended in the documentation. Could this be adapted in the documentation, please? In section 6.5.5 of the handbook of my package there's still recommended to use a proptected spaces between numbers and units: "A good documentation should not weigh more than 1 kg" I am still using 1.4.3 (Ubuntu) so maybe this has already been changed. Kind regards, Timmie
Re: Physical units
Hi, I always wrote the units outside the math box. Your way seems to make more sense now. Is there a difference between \textrm and \mathrm ? "Uwe Stöhr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Dov Feldstern schrieb: > >> BTW, inside an equation you can also type in the thin space as \, > > You can also use Ctrl-Space and then press Space several times to select > the space you need. Ctrl-Space is equal to \, > > regards Uwe >
Re: Physical units
Dov Feldstern schrieb: BTW, inside an equation you can also type in the thin space as \, You can also use Ctrl-Space and then press Space several times to select the space you need. Ctrl-Space is equal to \, regards Uwe
Re: Physical units
Miki Dovrat wrote: Hi, Do you know how to make a protected half space, so the units don't come out on a different line than the number? Miki Well, if you put it inside an equation, then the thin space itself *is* protected. BTW, inside an equation you can also type in the thin space as \, . I created a math macro for myself called units which does the following: #1\,\mathrm{#2} Then, to type in units you just have to Ctrl-m (enter math mode) \units space (enter the value) RIGHT (or LEFT in an RTL paragraph) (enter the units) space space. The result has a protected thin space, with the units in roman letters, as they should be. Dov "Uwe Stöhr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Steed, Robert J schrieb: I'm starting to write my thesis in Lyx and it so happens that I need to use microns(?) in my physical units alot. But I can't get a non-italic ? in math mode. Unicode doesn't seem to work either I get error messages: Package inputenc Error: Unicode char \u8:μ not set up for use with LaTeX. As you are using LyX 1.5 you can enter it directly via the keyboard. The only thing you have to do is to use the default encoding for English in your case. Attached is a LyX-file showing this. You can alternatively use the ERT-command \textmu when you add this to your document preamble: \usepackage{textcomp} Concerning units, don't forget that there is only a hlaf space between number and units. A half space is produced in LyX with the shortcut "Ctrl-Shift Space" (menu Insert-> Formatting -> Thin space), see also the attached example. regards Uwe
Re: Physical units
Miki Dovrat schrieb: Do you know how to make a protected half space, so the units don't come out on a different line than the number? You already know the answer, see the bottom of the email you sent: Concerning units, don't forget that there is only a hlaf space between number and units. A half space is produced in LyX with the shortcut "Ctrl-Shift Space" (menu Insert-> Formatting -> Thin space), see also the attached example. Uwe
Re: Physical units
Hi, Do you know how to make a protected half space, so the units don't come out on a different line than the number? Miki "Uwe Stöhr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Steed, Robert J schrieb: > >> I'm starting to write my thesis in Lyx and it so happens that I need to >> use microns(?) in my physical units alot. But I can't get a non-italic ? >> in math mode. Unicode doesn't seem to work either I get error messages: >> >> Package inputenc Error: Unicode char \u8:μ not set up for use with >> LaTeX. > > As you are using LyX 1.5 you can enter it directly via the keyboard. The > only thing you have to do > is to use the default encoding for English in your case. Attached is a > LyX-file showing this. > > You can alternatively use the ERT-command > \textmu > when you add this to your document preamble: > \usepackage{textcomp} > > Concerning units, don't forget that there is only a hlaf space between > number and units. A half > space is produced in LyX with the shortcut "Ctrl-Shift Space" (menu > Insert-> Formatting -> Thin > space), see also the attached example. > > regards Uwe >
RE: Physical units
Thanks for all the tips. I'm going to use this last method as it seems the simplest, I must of taken my symbols from the wrong locale. Regarding the 'normal text mode' in maths mode; it works for most text but not for the greek symbols for which latex complains and adds extra math mode $$. -Original Message- From: Uwe Stöhr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 30/05/2007 18:32 To: Steed, Robert J Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Subject: Re: Physical units Steed, Robert J schrieb: > I'm starting to write my thesis in Lyx and it so happens that I need to use > microns(?) in my physical units alot. But I can't get a non-italic ? in math > mode. Unicode doesn't seem to work either I get error messages: > > Package inputenc Error: Unicode char \u8:μ not set up for use with LaTeX. As you are using LyX 1.5 you can enter it directly via the keyboard. The only thing you have to do is to use the default encoding for English in your case. Attached is a LyX-file showing this. You can alternatively use the ERT-command \textmu when you add this to your document preamble: \usepackage{textcomp} Concerning units, don't forget that there is only a hlaf space between number and units. A half space is produced in LyX with the shortcut "Ctrl-Shift Space" (menu Insert-> Formatting -> Thin space), see also the attached example. regards Uwe
Re: Physical units
On Wednesday 30 May 2007 10:40, Brian Larsen wrote: > I use the SIunits package for latex to do all my units. [=] > It is a bit > cumbersome until you get the hang of it but then works great. I think the preceding sentence sums up working with LyX, LaTeX and TeX. SteveT
Re: Physical units
Steed, Robert J schrieb: I'm starting to write my thesis in Lyx and it so happens that I need to use microns(?) in my physical units alot. But I can't get a non-italic ? in math mode. Unicode doesn't seem to work either I get error messages: Package inputenc Error: Unicode char \u8:μ not set up for use with LaTeX. As you are using LyX 1.5 you can enter it directly via the keyboard. The only thing you have to do is to use the default encoding for English in your case. Attached is a LyX-file showing this. You can alternatively use the ERT-command \textmu when you add this to your document preamble: \usepackage{textcomp} Concerning units, don't forget that there is only a hlaf space between number and units. A half space is produced in LyX with the shortcut "Ctrl-Shift Space" (menu Insert-> Formatting -> Thin space), see also the attached example. regards Uwe newfile1.lyx Description: application/lyx
Re: Physical units
You could probably create a macro for it, which would make the input much easier --- you would only need to use the ERT once, when creating the macro. (I haven't use the SIunits package, maybe it's simple enough to use that macros are not even necessary; but if you find yourself typing a lot of ERT over and over again, it may be helpful). To learn about how to create and use macros in math, see the User Guide, Section 5.6. I think there's been quite a bit of development regarding math macros going on lately, I'm not sure though how much of it is already in the beta versions. Good luck! Dov Steed, Robert J wrote: I think that its working. I have to use ERT to do it, right? Thanks for the speedy reply. Rob -Original Message- From: Brian Larsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 30/05/2007 15:40 To: Steed, Robert J Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Subject: Re: Physical units I use the SIunits package for latex to do all my units. It is a bit cumbersome until you get the hang of it but then works great. I just include it in the LyX preamble, here is what I use in the preamble for siunits: % new commands using SIunits.sty %%% \usepackage[thickqspace,thickspace,amssymb]{SIunits} \usepackage{amssymb,amsmath,amsbsy,amsfonts} \newcommand{\ev}{\electronvolt} \newcommand{\kg}{\kilogram} \newcommand{\cm}{\centi\meter} \newcommand{\npcmcubed}{\cm\rpcubed} \newcommand{\npcmsquared}{\cm\rpsquared} \newcommand{\npsecond}{\reciprocal\second} \newcommand{\nm}{\nano\meter} \newcommand{\mps}{\meter\per\second} \newcommand{\npmps}{\meter\usk\npsecond} Cheers, Brian On 5/30/07, Steed, Robert J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm starting to write my thesis in Lyx and it so happens that I need to use microns(?) in my physical units alot. But I can't get a non-italic ? in math mode. Unicode doesn't seem to work either I get error messages: Package inputenc Error: Unicode char \u8:? not set up for use with LaTeX. Does anyone know what I should do? I'm using lyx-1.5.0beta3 and miktex on winxp. Thanks Rob
RE: Physical units
I think that its working. I have to use ERT to do it, right? Thanks for the speedy reply. Rob -Original Message- From: Brian Larsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 30/05/2007 15:40 To: Steed, Robert J Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Subject: Re: Physical units I use the SIunits package for latex to do all my units. It is a bit cumbersome until you get the hang of it but then works great. I just include it in the LyX preamble, here is what I use in the preamble for siunits: % new commands using SIunits.sty %%% \usepackage[thickqspace,thickspace,amssymb]{SIunits} \usepackage{amssymb,amsmath,amsbsy,amsfonts} \newcommand{\ev}{\electronvolt} \newcommand{\kg}{\kilogram} \newcommand{\cm}{\centi\meter} \newcommand{\npcmcubed}{\cm\rpcubed} \newcommand{\npcmsquared}{\cm\rpsquared} \newcommand{\npsecond}{\reciprocal\second} \newcommand{\nm}{\nano\meter} \newcommand{\mps}{\meter\per\second} \newcommand{\npmps}{\meter\usk\npsecond} Cheers, Brian On 5/30/07, Steed, Robert J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm starting to write my thesis in Lyx and it so happens that I need to > use microns(?) in my physical units alot. But I can't get a non-italic ? in > math mode. Unicode doesn't seem to work either I get error messages: > > Package inputenc Error: Unicode char \u8:? not set up for use with LaTeX. > > Does anyone know what I should do? > > I'm using lyx-1.5.0beta3 and miktex on winxp. > > Thanks > Rob > -- - Brian A Larsen RBSP-ECT Instrument Suite Scientist Boston University Center for Space Physics 725 Commonwealth Ave, Rm 506 Boston, MA 02215-1401 T: 617-358-4945 F: 627-353-6463 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Physical units
Steed, Robert J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I'm starting to write my thesis in Lyx and it so happens that I need to use microns(?) in my physical units > alot. But I can't get a non-italic ? in math mode. Unicode doesn't seem to work either I get error messages: > > Package inputenc Error: Unicode char \u8:μ not set up for use with LaTeX. > > Does anyone know what I should do? > > I'm using lyx-1.5.0beta3 and miktex on winxp. > > Thanks > Rob > In math mode, 1) insert text '?' 2) select text '?' 3) right click to bring up math panel 4) left click on 4th button on top row 5) select "Normal text mode" The question mark should now be upright. Regards
Re: Physical units
I use the SIunits package for latex to do all my units. It is a bit cumbersome until you get the hang of it but then works great. I just include it in the LyX preamble, here is what I use in the preamble for siunits: % new commands using SIunits.sty %%% \usepackage[thickqspace,thickspace,amssymb]{SIunits} \usepackage{amssymb,amsmath,amsbsy,amsfonts} \newcommand{\ev}{\electronvolt} \newcommand{\kg}{\kilogram} \newcommand{\cm}{\centi\meter} \newcommand{\npcmcubed}{\cm\rpcubed} \newcommand{\npcmsquared}{\cm\rpsquared} \newcommand{\npsecond}{\reciprocal\second} \newcommand{\nm}{\nano\meter} \newcommand{\mps}{\meter\per\second} \newcommand{\npmps}{\meter\usk\npsecond} Cheers, Brian On 5/30/07, Steed, Robert J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm starting to write my thesis in Lyx and it so happens that I need to use microns(?) in my physical units alot. But I can't get a non-italic ? in math mode. Unicode doesn't seem to work either I get error messages: Package inputenc Error: Unicode char \u8:μ not set up for use with LaTeX. Does anyone know what I should do? I'm using lyx-1.5.0beta3 and miktex on winxp. Thanks Rob -- - Brian A Larsen RBSP-ECT Instrument Suite Scientist Boston University Center for Space Physics 725 Commonwealth Ave, Rm 506 Boston, MA 02215-1401 T: 617-358-4945 F: 627-353-6463 [EMAIL PROTECTED]