Re: Re: lyx 1.4.1 and branches

[Peter Čendula]

From: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes Date: 2006-04-25 14:52:28 GMT

Don't you have InsertBranch??
JMarc



I also don't have it.

my configuration:

LyX 1.6.4 (2009-08-22)

Built on Sep 23 2009, 00:00:08
Configuration
  Host type:x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
  Special build flags:  aiksaurus warnings  use-aspell use-ispell
  C   Compiler: gcc
  C   Compiler LyX flags:
  C   Compiler flags:-g -O2
  C++ Compiler: g++ (4.4.1)
  C++ Compiler LyX flags:
  C++ Compiler flags:-g -O2
  Linker flags:
  Linker user flags:-Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions -Wl,-z,defs
-Wl,--as-needed -Wl,-z,defs -Wl,--as-needed
  Qt 4 Frontend:
  Qt 4 version: 4.5.2
  Packaging:posix
  LyX binary dir:   /usr/bin
  LyX files dir:/usr/share/lyx


Peter
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Re: lyx 1.4.1 and branches

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Le 22/06/2011 10:40, Peter Čendula a écrit :

From: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes Date: 2006-04-25 14:52:28 GMT


Don't you have InsertBranch??
JMarc


I also don't have it.

my configuration:

[...]

I do not remember much about the 2006 discussion, but if you
do not have an InsertBranch, I suspect that you are using the so-called 
classic menus, which have not been updated a lot these days, and have 
been removed in 2.0.


I advise to go to the preference dialog and change user interface from 
classic to default.


JMarc

Re: lyx 1.4.1 and branches

[Peter Čendula]

On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
lasgout...@lyx.orgwrote:

 Le 22/06/2011 10:40, Peter Čendula a écrit :

  From: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes Date: 2006-04-25 14:52:28 GMT

  Don't you have InsertBranch??
 JMarc


 I also don't have it.

 my configuration:

 [...]

 I do not remember much about the 2006 discussion, but if you
 do not have an InsertBranch, I suspect that you are using the so-called
 classic menus, which have not been updated a lot these days, and have been
 removed in 2.0.

 I advise to go to the preference dialog and change user interface from
 classic to default.

 JMarc



Bingo!
Since I've only upgraded my ubuntu 8.10 to 9.10 (current), I didn't knew
there was change in the user interface setup.

Thanks
Peter

Re: Re: lyx 1.4.1 and branches

[Peter Čendula]

From: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes Date: 2006-04-25 14:52:28 GMT

Don't you have InsertBranch??
JMarc



I also don't have it.

my configuration:

LyX 1.6.4 (2009-08-22)

Built on Sep 23 2009, 00:00:08
Configuration
  Host type:x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
  Special build flags:  aiksaurus warnings  use-aspell use-ispell
  C   Compiler: gcc
  C   Compiler LyX flags:
  C   Compiler flags:-g -O2
  C++ Compiler: g++ (4.4.1)
  C++ Compiler LyX flags:
  C++ Compiler flags:-g -O2
  Linker flags:
  Linker user flags:-Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions -Wl,-z,defs
-Wl,--as-needed -Wl,-z,defs -Wl,--as-needed
  Qt 4 Frontend:
  Qt 4 version: 4.5.2
  Packaging:posix
  LyX binary dir:   /usr/bin
  LyX files dir:/usr/share/lyx


Peter
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skype:cendp1am
+49-176-63326870
+421-907-431671
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Re: lyx 1.4.1 and branches

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Le 22/06/2011 10:40, Peter Čendula a écrit :

From: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes Date: 2006-04-25 14:52:28 GMT


Don't you have InsertBranch??
JMarc


I also don't have it.

my configuration:

[...]

I do not remember much about the 2006 discussion, but if you
do not have an InsertBranch, I suspect that you are using the so-called 
classic menus, which have not been updated a lot these days, and have 
been removed in 2.0.


I advise to go to the preference dialog and change user interface from 
classic to default.


JMarc

Re: lyx 1.4.1 and branches

[Peter Čendula]

On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
lasgout...@lyx.orgwrote:

 Le 22/06/2011 10:40, Peter Čendula a écrit :

  From: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes Date: 2006-04-25 14:52:28 GMT

  Don't you have InsertBranch??
 JMarc


 I also don't have it.

 my configuration:

 [...]

 I do not remember much about the 2006 discussion, but if you
 do not have an InsertBranch, I suspect that you are using the so-called
 classic menus, which have not been updated a lot these days, and have been
 removed in 2.0.

 I advise to go to the preference dialog and change user interface from
 classic to default.

 JMarc



Bingo!
Since I've only upgraded my ubuntu 8.10 to 9.10 (current), I didn't knew
there was change in the user interface setup.

Thanks
Peter

Re: Re: lyx 1.4.1 and branches

[Peter Čendula]

From: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes Date: 2006-04-25 14:52:28 GMT

>Don't you have Insert>Branch??
>JMarc



I also don't have it.

my configuration:

LyX 1.6.4 (2009-08-22)

Built on Sep 23 2009, 00:00:08
Configuration
  Host type:x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
  Special build flags:  aiksaurus warnings  use-aspell use-ispell
  C   Compiler: gcc
  C   Compiler LyX flags:
  C   Compiler flags:-g -O2
  C++ Compiler: g++ (4.4.1)
  C++ Compiler LyX flags:
  C++ Compiler flags:-g -O2
  Linker flags:
  Linker user flags:-Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions -Wl,-z,defs
-Wl,--as-needed -Wl,-z,defs -Wl,--as-needed
  Qt 4 Frontend:
  Qt 4 version: 4.5.2
  Packaging:posix
  LyX binary dir:   /usr/bin
  LyX files dir:/usr/share/lyx


Peter
-- 
skype:cendp1am
+49-176-63326870
+421-907-431671
http://cendo.skialpfest.sk
http://www.ifw-dresden.de/institutes/iin/

Re: lyx 1.4.1 and branches

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Le 22/06/2011 10:40, Peter Čendula a écrit :

From: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes Date: 2006-04-25 14:52:28 GMT


Don't you have Insert>Branch??
JMarc


I also don't have it.

my configuration:

[...]

I do not remember much about the 2006 discussion, but if you
do not have an Insert>Branch, I suspect that you are using the so-called 
"classic" menus, which have not been updated a lot these days, and have 
been removed in 2.0.


I advise to go to the preference dialog and change "user interface" from 
classic to default.


JMarc

Re: lyx 1.4.1 and branches

[Peter Čendula]

On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
wrote:

> Le 22/06/2011 10:40, Peter Čendula a écrit :
>
>  From: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes Date: 2006-04-25 14:52:28 GMT
>>
>>  Don't you have Insert>Branch??
>>> JMarc
>>>
>>
>> I also don't have it.
>>
>> my configuration:
>>
> [...]
>
> I do not remember much about the 2006 discussion, but if you
> do not have an Insert>Branch, I suspect that you are using the so-called
> "classic" menus, which have not been updated a lot these days, and have been
> removed in 2.0.
>
> I advise to go to the preference dialog and change "user interface" from
> classic to default.
>
> JMarc
>


Bingo!
Since I've only upgraded my ubuntu 8.10 to 9.10 (current), I didn't knew
there was change in the user interface setup.

Thanks
Peter

Installation of Lyx 1.4.1 and 1.4.2 on WinXP: missing windefault

[Graeme Handisides]

Hi,

I just tried to install both 1.4.1 and 1.4.2 on WinXP and have the problem 
that it then refuses to start because windefault is missing. I assume this 
refers to windefault.ui. What has gone wrong here? Or more to the point, how 
do I replace this file. I have tried several different installation methods, 
and they all produce the same error. I have had Lyx installed before without 
problems, but this time the configuration doesn't seem to have worked properly.

Thanks for any help,

Graeme

Re: Installation of Lyx 1.4.1 and 1.4.2 on WinXP: missing windefault

[Paul A. Rubin]

Graeme Handisides wrote:

Hi,

I just tried to install both 1.4.1 and 1.4.2 on WinXP and have the problem 
that it then refuses to start because windefault is missing. I assume this 
refers to windefault.ui. What has gone wrong here? Or more to the point, how 
do I replace this file. I have tried several different installation methods, 
and they all produce the same error. I have had Lyx installed before without 
problems, but this time the configuration doesn't seem to have worked properly.




Ok, I'll bite:  what's windefault.ui?  I have LyX 1.3.7, 1.4.1 and 1.4.2 
installed on WinXP, and none of them have that file.


I think the following fix should work.  Navigate to C:\Documents and 
Settings\your id here\Application Data\LyX1.4.x\, open the preferences 
file in a text editor (e.g., notepad), and insert the line


\ui_file default

at the end.  If you don't have a preferences file, copy lyxrc.defaults 
to lyxrc and stick it in there.  (Or stick it in lyxrc.defaults, even 
though editing that file is apparently equivalent to tearing the tag off 
a mattress.)


HTH,
/Paul

Re: Installation of Lyx 1.4.1 and 1.4.2 on WinXP: missing windefault

[Uwe Stöhr]

Graeme Handisides wrote:

I just tried to install both 1.4.1 and 1.4.2 on WinXP and have the 
problem that it then refuses to start because windefault is missing. I 
assume this refers to windefault.ui. What has gone wrong here?


This is bug 720:

http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2720

windefault.ui-file was used by the old LyX Windows installer and should 
be removed when you uninstall LyX.
It seems that soething has gone wrong on your system. To fix it, either 
uninstall LyX 1.4.1 that might be on your system or delete the folder 
C:\documents and settings\username\Application Data\LyX1.4.x manually, 
or reinstall LyX 1.4.2 using this installer:


http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyXWinInstaller

that still supports windefault.ui.

regards Uwe

Installation of Lyx 1.4.1 and 1.4.2 on WinXP: missing windefault

[Graeme Handisides]

Hi,

I just tried to install both 1.4.1 and 1.4.2 on WinXP and have the problem 
that it then refuses to start because windefault is missing. I assume this 
refers to windefault.ui. What has gone wrong here? Or more to the point, how 
do I replace this file. I have tried several different installation methods, 
and they all produce the same error. I have had Lyx installed before without 
problems, but this time the configuration doesn't seem to have worked properly.

Thanks for any help,

Graeme

Re: Installation of Lyx 1.4.1 and 1.4.2 on WinXP: missing windefault

[Paul A. Rubin]

Graeme Handisides wrote:

Hi,

I just tried to install both 1.4.1 and 1.4.2 on WinXP and have the problem 
that it then refuses to start because windefault is missing. I assume this 
refers to windefault.ui. What has gone wrong here? Or more to the point, how 
do I replace this file. I have tried several different installation methods, 
and they all produce the same error. I have had Lyx installed before without 
problems, but this time the configuration doesn't seem to have worked properly.




Ok, I'll bite:  what's windefault.ui?  I have LyX 1.3.7, 1.4.1 and 1.4.2 
installed on WinXP, and none of them have that file.


I think the following fix should work.  Navigate to C:\Documents and 
Settings\your id here\Application Data\LyX1.4.x\, open the preferences 
file in a text editor (e.g., notepad), and insert the line


\ui_file default

at the end.  If you don't have a preferences file, copy lyxrc.defaults 
to lyxrc and stick it in there.  (Or stick it in lyxrc.defaults, even 
though editing that file is apparently equivalent to tearing the tag off 
a mattress.)


HTH,
/Paul

Re: Installation of Lyx 1.4.1 and 1.4.2 on WinXP: missing windefault

[Uwe Stöhr]

Graeme Handisides wrote:

I just tried to install both 1.4.1 and 1.4.2 on WinXP and have the 
problem that it then refuses to start because windefault is missing. I 
assume this refers to windefault.ui. What has gone wrong here?


This is bug 720:

http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2720

windefault.ui-file was used by the old LyX Windows installer and should 
be removed when you uninstall LyX.
It seems that soething has gone wrong on your system. To fix it, either 
uninstall LyX 1.4.1 that might be on your system or delete the folder 
C:\documents and settings\username\Application Data\LyX1.4.x manually, 
or reinstall LyX 1.4.2 using this installer:


http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyXWinInstaller

that still supports windefault.ui.

regards Uwe

Installation of Lyx 1.4.1 and 1.4.2 on WinXP: missing windefault

[Graeme Handisides]

Hi,

I just tried to install both 1.4.1 and 1.4.2 on WinXP and have the problem 
that it then refuses to start because windefault is missing. I assume this 
refers to windefault.ui. What has gone wrong here? Or more to the point, how 
do I replace this file. I have tried several different installation methods, 
and they all produce the same error. I have had Lyx installed before without 
problems, but this time the configuration doesn't seem to have worked properly.

Thanks for any help,

Graeme

Re: Installation of Lyx 1.4.1 and 1.4.2 on WinXP: missing windefault

[Paul A. Rubin]

Graeme Handisides wrote:

Hi,

I just tried to install both 1.4.1 and 1.4.2 on WinXP and have the problem 
that it then refuses to start because windefault is missing. I assume this 
refers to windefault.ui. What has gone wrong here? Or more to the point, how 
do I replace this file. I have tried several different installation methods, 
and they all produce the same error. I have had Lyx installed before without 
problems, but this time the configuration doesn't seem to have worked properly.




Ok, I'll bite:  what's windefault.ui?  I have LyX 1.3.7, 1.4.1 and 1.4.2 
installed on WinXP, and none of them have that file.


I think the following fix should work.  Navigate to C:\Documents and 
Settings\\Application Data\LyX1.4.x\, open the preferences 
file in a text editor (e.g., notepad), and insert the line


\ui_file "default"

at the end.  If you don't have a preferences file, copy lyxrc.defaults 
to lyxrc and stick it in there.  (Or stick it in lyxrc.defaults, even 
though editing that file is apparently equivalent to tearing the tag off 
a mattress.)


HTH,
/Paul

Re: Installation of Lyx 1.4.1 and 1.4.2 on WinXP: missing windefault

[Uwe Stöhr]

Graeme Handisides wrote:

I just tried to install both 1.4.1 and 1.4.2 on WinXP and have the 
problem that it then refuses to start because windefault is missing. I 
assume this refers to windefault.ui. What has gone wrong here?


This is bug 720:

http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2720

windefault.ui-file was used by the old LyX Windows installer and should 
be removed when you uninstall LyX.
It seems that soething has gone wrong on your system. To fix it, either 
uninstall LyX 1.4.1 that might be on your system or delete the folder 
C:\documents and settings\username\Application Data\LyX1.4.x manually, 
or reinstall LyX 1.4.2 using this installer:


http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyXWinInstaller

that still supports windefault.ui.

regards Uwe

Re: lyx-1.4.1 to Mandriva 2006

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 Steve == Steve Litt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Steve Hi Miguel, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ locate libaudio | grep libaudio\\.
Steve /usr/X11R6/lib/libaudio.so.2 /usr/X11R6/lib/libaudio.so.2.3
Steve /usr/X11R6/lib/libaudio.so [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$

Steve I don't know exactly what the significance is, but see if U
Steve have those files.

Steve, if you do
rpm -qf /usr/X11R6/lib/libaudio.so.2.3
you will even be able to tell from which package they come.

JMarc

Re: lyx-1.4.1 to Mandriva 2006

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 Steve == Steve Litt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Steve Hi Miguel, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ locate libaudio | grep libaudio\\.
Steve /usr/X11R6/lib/libaudio.so.2 /usr/X11R6/lib/libaudio.so.2.3
Steve /usr/X11R6/lib/libaudio.so [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$

Steve I don't know exactly what the significance is, but see if U
Steve have those files.

Steve, if you do
rpm -qf /usr/X11R6/lib/libaudio.so.2.3
you will even be able to tell from which package they come.

JMarc

Re: lyx-1.4.1 to Mandriva 2006

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

> "Steve" == Steve Litt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Steve> Hi Miguel, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ locate libaudio | grep libaudio\\.
Steve> /usr/X11R6/lib/libaudio.so.2 /usr/X11R6/lib/libaudio.so.2.3
Steve> /usr/X11R6/lib/libaudio.so [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$

Steve> I don't know exactly what the significance is, but see if U
Steve> have those files.

Steve, if you do
rpm -qf /usr/X11R6/lib/libaudio.so.2.3
you will even be able to tell from which package they come.

JMarc

Re: lyx-1.4.1 to Mandriva 2006

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 Paul == Paul Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Paul On 6/29/06, icebna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Someone can say me, where can find the rpm lyx-1.4.1_qt to Mandriva
 2006 ? I have attempt compiled, but don't start. Don't give nothing
 error, but don't start.

Paul Maybe, this is the appropriate time to migrate to Fedora Core.
Paul You will always have available the recentest version of LyX and
Paul of very many others programs.

Or Mandrake 2006 community, maybe...

JMarc

Re: lyx-1.4.1 to Mandriva 2006

[icebna]

Hi all :
In the compilation of the tarball lyx-1.4.1.tar.gz in a machine with
Mandriva 2006
give the next errors, then make. The configuration ./configuration was 
succesfully :


I have compiled the tarball, and give me the next error
/usr/bin/ld cannot find -laudio
collect2 : ld returned 1 exit status
make[3]: *** [lyx-qt] Error 1
Leaving /home/.
make[2]: ***[all recursive] Error 1
Leaving /home .
make[1]: ***[all] Error 2
Leaving /home .

I have installed libaudiofile0-devel

Someone idea
Thanks
Miguel



Steve Litt escribió:

On Friday 30 June 2006 06:21 am, you wrote:
  

Hello Steve :
I have compiled the tarball, and give me the next error
/usr/bin/ld cannot find -laudio
collect2 : ld returned 1 exit status
make[3]: *** [lyx-qt] Error 1
Leaving /home/.
make[2]: ***[all recursive] Error 1
 Leaving /home .
make[1]: ***[all] Error 2
Leaving /home .

Can you help me ?
Miguel



Hi Miguel,

You're probably better off asking this on the list, as a lot of people there 
are much more conversant with compilation than I.


Probably you're missing something on your system, and given that the compile 
worked on my system, it's probably something that I've installed and you 
haven't, which means you can use Mandriva's package manager to install it, if 
only you knew what it was.


A man ld command showed that the -l flag of ld includes an archive file whose 
name is lib+the archive name, or in this case libaudio. In fact, I've 
installed a libaudiofile0-devel-0.2.6-3mdk. Maybe you haven't, and maybe 
that's the problem.


Anyway, I'd suggest asking on the list, where you'll have lots of eyes looking 
at your question.


Thanks

Steve

  

Steve Litt escribió:


On Thursday 29 June 2006 04:49 pm, Paul Smith wrote:
  

On 6/29/06, icebna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Someone can say me, where can find the rpm lyx-1.4.1_qt to Mandriva
2006 ? I have attempt compiled, but don't start. Don't give nothing
error, but don't start.
  

Maybe, this is the appropriate time to migrate to Fedora Core. You
will always have available the recentest version of LyX and of very
many others programs.

Paul


I just installed on Mandriva 2006 with ./configure;make;make install. The
process was very easy, and I didn't get any dependency problems. If you
like Mandriva 2006 (I've been a Mandrake Man since 2000), this might be
an excellent way to do it, especially because you can retain your old LyX
1.3.5 that came with Mandriva 2006.

Let me tell you how I did it...

tar xzvf lyx-1.4.1.tar.gz
cd lyx-1.4.1
./configure --with-version-suffix=-1.4.1qt --with-frontend=qt
make
su
make install
exit
cp ~/.lyx/layouts/* ~/.lyx-1.4.1qt/layouts/
lyx-1.4.1qt
#tools-reconfigure
cp mybook.lyx test.lyx
lyx-1.4.1qt   test.lyx

If you have the performance problems reported by some people, you can
compile it with xforms. Do the same thing as above, except everywhere
change qt to xforms. This will create a lyx-1.4.1xforms to coexist with
your lyx-1.4.1qt and lyx.

If you have performance problems, please report it to the list. Then you
and I can compare everything and find out why you have performance
problems and I don't, and in doing so, perhaps you and I could help the
developers nail this elusive bug.

HTH

SteveT

Steve Litt
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Re: lyx-1.4.1 to Mandriva 2006

[Steve Litt]

Hi Miguel,

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ locate libaudio |  grep libaudio\\.
/usr/X11R6/lib/libaudio.so.2
/usr/X11R6/lib/libaudio.so.2.3
/usr/X11R6/lib/libaudio.so
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$

I don't know exactly what the significance is, but see if U have those files.

SteveT

On Friday 30 June 2006 09:59 am, icebna wrote:
 Hi all :
 In the compilation of the tarball lyx-1.4.1.tar.gz in a machine with
 Mandriva 2006
 give the next errors, then make. The configuration ./configuration was
 succesfully :

 I have compiled the tarball, and give me the next error
 /usr/bin/ld cannot find -laudio
 collect2 : ld returned 1 exit status
 make[3]: *** [lyx-qt] Error 1
 Leaving /home/.
 make[2]: ***[all recursive] Error 1
 Leaving /home .
 make[1]: ***[all] Error 2
 Leaving /home .

 I have installed libaudiofile0-devel

 Someone idea
 Thanks
 Miguel

 Steve Litt escribió:
  On Friday 30 June 2006 06:21 am, you wrote:
  Hello Steve :
  I have compiled the tarball, and give me the next error
  /usr/bin/ld cannot find -laudio
  collect2 : ld returned 1 exit status
  make[3]: *** [lyx-qt] Error 1
  Leaving /home/.
  make[2]: ***[all recursive] Error 1
   Leaving /home .
  make[1]: ***[all] Error 2
  Leaving /home .
 
  Can you help me ?
  Miguel
 
  Hi Miguel,
 
  You're probably better off asking this on the list, as a lot of people
  there are much more conversant with compilation than I.
 
  Probably you're missing something on your system, and given that the
  compile worked on my system, it's probably something that I've installed
  and you haven't, which means you can use Mandriva's package manager to
  install it, if only you knew what it was.
 
  A man ld command showed that the -l flag of ld includes an archive file
  whose name is lib+the archive name, or in this case libaudio. In fact,
  I've installed a libaudiofile0-devel-0.2.6-3mdk. Maybe you haven't, and
  maybe that's the problem.
 
  Anyway, I'd suggest asking on the list, where you'll have lots of eyes
  looking at your question.
 
  Thanks
 
  Steve
 
  Steve Litt escribió:
  On Thursday 29 June 2006 04:49 pm, Paul Smith wrote:
  On 6/29/06, icebna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Someone can say me, where can find the rpm lyx-1.4.1_qt to Mandriva
  2006 ? I have attempt compiled, but don't start. Don't give nothing
  error, but don't start.
 
  Maybe, this is the appropriate time to migrate to Fedora Core. You
  will always have available the recentest version of LyX and of very
  many others programs.
 
  Paul
 
  I just installed on Mandriva 2006 with ./configure;make;make install.
  The process was very easy, and I didn't get any dependency problems. If
  you like Mandriva 2006 (I've been a Mandrake Man since 2000), this
  might be an excellent way to do it, especially because you can retain
  your old LyX 1.3.5 that came with Mandriva 2006.
 
  Let me tell you how I did it...
 
  tar xzvf lyx-1.4.1.tar.gz
  cd lyx-1.4.1
  ./configure --with-version-suffix=-1.4.1qt --with-frontend=qt
  make
  su
  make install
  exit
  cp ~/.lyx/layouts/* ~/.lyx-1.4.1qt/layouts/
  lyx-1.4.1qt
  #tools-reconfigure
  cp mybook.lyx test.lyx
  lyx-1.4.1qt   test.lyx
 
  If you have the performance problems reported by some people, you can
  compile it with xforms. Do the same thing as above, except everywhere
  change qt to xforms. This will create a lyx-1.4.1xforms to coexist with
  your lyx-1.4.1qt and lyx.
 
  If you have performance problems, please report it to the list. Then
  you and I can compare everything and find out why you have performance
  problems and I don't, and in doing so, perhaps you and I could help the
  developers nail this elusive bug.
 
  HTH
 
  SteveT
 
  Steve Litt
  Author:
 * Universal Troubleshooting Process courseware
 * Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist
 * Manager's Guide to Technical Troubleshooting
 * Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting
 * Rapid Learning: Secret Weapon of the Successful Technologist
 
  http://www.troubleshooters.com/bookstore
  http://www.troubleshooters.com/utp/tcourses.htm

Re: lyx-1.4.1 to Mandriva 2006

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 Paul == Paul Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Paul On 6/29/06, icebna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Someone can say me, where can find the rpm lyx-1.4.1_qt to Mandriva
 2006 ? I have attempt compiled, but don't start. Don't give nothing
 error, but don't start.

Paul Maybe, this is the appropriate time to migrate to Fedora Core.
Paul You will always have available the recentest version of LyX and
Paul of very many others programs.

Or Mandrake 2006 community, maybe...

JMarc

Re: lyx-1.4.1 to Mandriva 2006

[icebna]

Hi all :
In the compilation of the tarball lyx-1.4.1.tar.gz in a machine with
Mandriva 2006
give the next errors, then make. The configuration ./configuration was 
succesfully :


I have compiled the tarball, and give me the next error
/usr/bin/ld cannot find -laudio
collect2 : ld returned 1 exit status
make[3]: *** [lyx-qt] Error 1
Leaving /home/.
make[2]: ***[all recursive] Error 1
Leaving /home .
make[1]: ***[all] Error 2
Leaving /home .

I have installed libaudiofile0-devel

Someone idea
Thanks
Miguel



Steve Litt escribió:

On Friday 30 June 2006 06:21 am, you wrote:
  

Hello Steve :
I have compiled the tarball, and give me the next error
/usr/bin/ld cannot find -laudio
collect2 : ld returned 1 exit status
make[3]: *** [lyx-qt] Error 1
Leaving /home/.
make[2]: ***[all recursive] Error 1
 Leaving /home .
make[1]: ***[all] Error 2
Leaving /home .

Can you help me ?
Miguel



Hi Miguel,

You're probably better off asking this on the list, as a lot of people there 
are much more conversant with compilation than I.


Probably you're missing something on your system, and given that the compile 
worked on my system, it's probably something that I've installed and you 
haven't, which means you can use Mandriva's package manager to install it, if 
only you knew what it was.


A man ld command showed that the -l flag of ld includes an archive file whose 
name is lib+the archive name, or in this case libaudio. In fact, I've 
installed a libaudiofile0-devel-0.2.6-3mdk. Maybe you haven't, and maybe 
that's the problem.


Anyway, I'd suggest asking on the list, where you'll have lots of eyes looking 
at your question.


Thanks

Steve

  

Steve Litt escribió:


On Thursday 29 June 2006 04:49 pm, Paul Smith wrote:
  

On 6/29/06, icebna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Someone can say me, where can find the rpm lyx-1.4.1_qt to Mandriva
2006 ? I have attempt compiled, but don't start. Don't give nothing
error, but don't start.
  

Maybe, this is the appropriate time to migrate to Fedora Core. You
will always have available the recentest version of LyX and of very
many others programs.

Paul


I just installed on Mandriva 2006 with ./configure;make;make install. The
process was very easy, and I didn't get any dependency problems. If you
like Mandriva 2006 (I've been a Mandrake Man since 2000), this might be
an excellent way to do it, especially because you can retain your old LyX
1.3.5 that came with Mandriva 2006.

Let me tell you how I did it...

tar xzvf lyx-1.4.1.tar.gz
cd lyx-1.4.1
./configure --with-version-suffix=-1.4.1qt --with-frontend=qt
make
su
make install
exit
cp ~/.lyx/layouts/* ~/.lyx-1.4.1qt/layouts/
lyx-1.4.1qt
#tools-reconfigure
cp mybook.lyx test.lyx
lyx-1.4.1qt   test.lyx

If you have the performance problems reported by some people, you can
compile it with xforms. Do the same thing as above, except everywhere
change qt to xforms. This will create a lyx-1.4.1xforms to coexist with
your lyx-1.4.1qt and lyx.

If you have performance problems, please report it to the list. Then you
and I can compare everything and find out why you have performance
problems and I don't, and in doing so, perhaps you and I could help the
developers nail this elusive bug.

HTH

SteveT

Steve Litt
Author:
   * Universal Troubleshooting Process courseware
   * Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist
   * Manager's Guide to Technical Troubleshooting
   * Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting
   * Rapid Learning: Secret Weapon of the Successful Technologist

http://www.troubleshooters.com/bookstore
http://www.troubleshooters.com/utp/tcourses.htm
  


  

Re: lyx-1.4.1 to Mandriva 2006

[Steve Litt]

Hi Miguel,

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ locate libaudio |  grep libaudio\\.
/usr/X11R6/lib/libaudio.so.2
/usr/X11R6/lib/libaudio.so.2.3
/usr/X11R6/lib/libaudio.so
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$

I don't know exactly what the significance is, but see if U have those files.

SteveT

On Friday 30 June 2006 09:59 am, icebna wrote:
 Hi all :
 In the compilation of the tarball lyx-1.4.1.tar.gz in a machine with
 Mandriva 2006
 give the next errors, then make. The configuration ./configuration was
 succesfully :

 I have compiled the tarball, and give me the next error
 /usr/bin/ld cannot find -laudio
 collect2 : ld returned 1 exit status
 make[3]: *** [lyx-qt] Error 1
 Leaving /home/.
 make[2]: ***[all recursive] Error 1
 Leaving /home .
 make[1]: ***[all] Error 2
 Leaving /home .

 I have installed libaudiofile0-devel

 Someone idea
 Thanks
 Miguel

 Steve Litt escribió:
  On Friday 30 June 2006 06:21 am, you wrote:
  Hello Steve :
  I have compiled the tarball, and give me the next error
  /usr/bin/ld cannot find -laudio
  collect2 : ld returned 1 exit status
  make[3]: *** [lyx-qt] Error 1
  Leaving /home/.
  make[2]: ***[all recursive] Error 1
   Leaving /home .
  make[1]: ***[all] Error 2
  Leaving /home .
 
  Can you help me ?
  Miguel
 
  Hi Miguel,
 
  You're probably better off asking this on the list, as a lot of people
  there are much more conversant with compilation than I.
 
  Probably you're missing something on your system, and given that the
  compile worked on my system, it's probably something that I've installed
  and you haven't, which means you can use Mandriva's package manager to
  install it, if only you knew what it was.
 
  A man ld command showed that the -l flag of ld includes an archive file
  whose name is lib+the archive name, or in this case libaudio. In fact,
  I've installed a libaudiofile0-devel-0.2.6-3mdk. Maybe you haven't, and
  maybe that's the problem.
 
  Anyway, I'd suggest asking on the list, where you'll have lots of eyes
  looking at your question.
 
  Thanks
 
  Steve
 
  Steve Litt escribió:
  On Thursday 29 June 2006 04:49 pm, Paul Smith wrote:
  On 6/29/06, icebna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Someone can say me, where can find the rpm lyx-1.4.1_qt to Mandriva
  2006 ? I have attempt compiled, but don't start. Don't give nothing
  error, but don't start.
 
  Maybe, this is the appropriate time to migrate to Fedora Core. You
  will always have available the recentest version of LyX and of very
  many others programs.
 
  Paul
 
  I just installed on Mandriva 2006 with ./configure;make;make install.
  The process was very easy, and I didn't get any dependency problems. If
  you like Mandriva 2006 (I've been a Mandrake Man since 2000), this
  might be an excellent way to do it, especially because you can retain
  your old LyX 1.3.5 that came with Mandriva 2006.
 
  Let me tell you how I did it...
 
  tar xzvf lyx-1.4.1.tar.gz
  cd lyx-1.4.1
  ./configure --with-version-suffix=-1.4.1qt --with-frontend=qt
  make
  su
  make install
  exit
  cp ~/.lyx/layouts/* ~/.lyx-1.4.1qt/layouts/
  lyx-1.4.1qt
  #tools-reconfigure
  cp mybook.lyx test.lyx
  lyx-1.4.1qt   test.lyx
 
  If you have the performance problems reported by some people, you can
  compile it with xforms. Do the same thing as above, except everywhere
  change qt to xforms. This will create a lyx-1.4.1xforms to coexist with
  your lyx-1.4.1qt and lyx.
 
  If you have performance problems, please report it to the list. Then
  you and I can compare everything and find out why you have performance
  problems and I don't, and in doing so, perhaps you and I could help the
  developers nail this elusive bug.
 
  HTH
 
  SteveT
 
  Steve Litt
  Author:
 * Universal Troubleshooting Process courseware
 * Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist
 * Manager's Guide to Technical Troubleshooting
 * Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting
 * Rapid Learning: Secret Weapon of the Successful Technologist
 
  http://www.troubleshooters.com/bookstore
  http://www.troubleshooters.com/utp/tcourses.htm

Re: lyx-1.4.1 to Mandriva 2006

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

> "Paul" == Paul Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Paul> On 6/29/06, icebna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Someone can say me, where can find the rpm lyx-1.4.1_qt to Mandriva
>> 2006 ? I have attempt compiled, but don't start. Don't give nothing
>> error, but don't start.

Paul> Maybe, this is the appropriate time to migrate to Fedora Core.
Paul> You will always have available the recentest version of LyX and
Paul> of very many others programs.

Or Mandrake 2006 community, maybe...

JMarc

Re: lyx-1.4.1 to Mandriva 2006

[icebna]

Hi all :
In the compilation of the tarball lyx-1.4.1.tar.gz in a machine with
Mandriva 2006
give the next errors, then make. The configuration ./configuration was 
succesfully :


I have compiled the tarball, and give me the next error
/usr/bin/ld cannot find -laudio
collect2 : ld returned 1 exit status
make[3]: *** [lyx-qt] Error 1
Leaving /home/.
make[2]: ***[all recursive] Error 1
Leaving /home .
make[1]: ***[all] Error 2
Leaving /home .

I have installed libaudiofile0-devel

Someone idea
Thanks
Miguel



Steve Litt escribió:

On Friday 30 June 2006 06:21 am, you wrote:
  

Hello Steve :
I have compiled the tarball, and give me the next error
/usr/bin/ld cannot find -laudio
collect2 : ld returned 1 exit status
make[3]: *** [lyx-qt] Error 1
Leaving /home/.
make[2]: ***[all recursive] Error 1
 Leaving /home .
make[1]: ***[all] Error 2
Leaving /home .

Can you help me ?
Miguel



Hi Miguel,

You're probably better off asking this on the list, as a lot of people there 
are much more conversant with compilation than I.


Probably you're missing something on your system, and given that the compile 
worked on my system, it's probably something that I've installed and you 
haven't, which means you can use Mandriva's package manager to install it, if 
only you knew what it was.


A man ld command showed that the -l flag of ld includes an archive file whose 
name is lib+the archive name, or in this case libaudio. In fact, I've 
installed a libaudiofile0-devel-0.2.6-3mdk. Maybe you haven't, and maybe 
that's the problem.


Anyway, I'd suggest asking on the list, where you'll have lots of eyes looking 
at your question.


Thanks

Steve

  

Steve Litt escribió:


On Thursday 29 June 2006 04:49 pm, Paul Smith wrote:
  

On 6/29/06, icebna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Someone can say me, where can find the rpm lyx-1.4.1_qt to Mandriva
2006 ? I have attempt compiled, but don't start. Don't give nothing
error, but don't start.
  

Maybe, this is the appropriate time to migrate to Fedora Core. You
will always have available the recentest version of LyX and of very
many others programs.

Paul


I just installed on Mandriva 2006 with ./configure;make;make install. The
process was very easy, and I didn't get any dependency problems. If you
like Mandriva 2006 (I've been a Mandrake Man since 2000), this might be
an excellent way to do it, especially because you can retain your old LyX
1.3.5 that came with Mandriva 2006.

Let me tell you how I did it...

tar xzvf lyx-1.4.1.tar.gz
cd lyx-1.4.1
./configure --with-version-suffix=-1.4.1qt --with-frontend=qt
make
su
make install
exit
cp ~/.lyx/layouts/* ~/.lyx-1.4.1qt/layouts/
lyx-1.4.1qt
#tools->reconfigure
cp mybook.lyx test.lyx
lyx-1.4.1qt   test.lyx

If you have the performance problems reported by some people, you can
compile it with xforms. Do the same thing as above, except everywhere
change qt to xforms. This will create a lyx-1.4.1xforms to coexist with
your lyx-1.4.1qt and lyx.

If you have performance problems, please report it to the list. Then you
and I can compare everything and find out why you have performance
problems and I don't, and in doing so, perhaps you and I could help the
developers nail this elusive bug.

HTH

SteveT

Steve Litt
Author:
   * Universal Troubleshooting Process courseware
   * Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist
   * Manager's Guide to Technical Troubleshooting
   * Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting
   * Rapid Learning: Secret Weapon of the Successful Technologist

http://www.troubleshooters.com/bookstore
http://www.troubleshooters.com/utp/tcourses.htm
  


  

Re: lyx-1.4.1 to Mandriva 2006

[Steve Litt]

Hi Miguel,

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ locate libaudio |  grep libaudio\\.
/usr/X11R6/lib/libaudio.so.2
/usr/X11R6/lib/libaudio.so.2.3
/usr/X11R6/lib/libaudio.so
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$

I don't know exactly what the significance is, but see if U have those files.

SteveT

On Friday 30 June 2006 09:59 am, icebna wrote:
> Hi all :
> In the compilation of the tarball lyx-1.4.1.tar.gz in a machine with
> Mandriva 2006
> give the next errors, then make. The configuration ./configuration was
> succesfully :
>
> I have compiled the tarball, and give me the next error
> /usr/bin/ld cannot find -laudio
> collect2 : ld returned 1 exit status
> make[3]: *** [lyx-qt] Error 1
> Leaving /home/.
> make[2]: ***[all recursive] Error 1
> Leaving /home .
> make[1]: ***[all] Error 2
> Leaving /home .
>
> I have installed libaudiofile0-devel
>
> Someone idea
> Thanks
> Miguel
>
> Steve Litt escribió:
> > On Friday 30 June 2006 06:21 am, you wrote:
> >> Hello Steve :
> >> I have compiled the tarball, and give me the next error
> >> /usr/bin/ld cannot find -laudio
> >> collect2 : ld returned 1 exit status
> >> make[3]: *** [lyx-qt] Error 1
> >> Leaving /home/.
> >> make[2]: ***[all recursive] Error 1
> >>  Leaving /home .
> >> make[1]: ***[all] Error 2
> >> Leaving /home .
> >>
> >> Can you help me ?
> >> Miguel
> >
> > Hi Miguel,
> >
> > You're probably better off asking this on the list, as a lot of people
> > there are much more conversant with compilation than I.
> >
> > Probably you're missing something on your system, and given that the
> > compile worked on my system, it's probably something that I've installed
> > and you haven't, which means you can use Mandriva's package manager to
> > install it, if only you knew what it was.
> >
> > A man ld command showed that the -l flag of ld includes an archive file
> > whose name is lib+the archive name, or in this case libaudio. In fact,
> > I've installed a libaudiofile0-devel-0.2.6-3mdk. Maybe you haven't, and
> > maybe that's the problem.
> >
> > Anyway, I'd suggest asking on the list, where you'll have lots of eyes
> > looking at your question.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >> Steve Litt escribió:
> >>> On Thursday 29 June 2006 04:49 pm, Paul Smith wrote:
> >>>> On 6/29/06, icebna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>>> Someone can say me, where can find the rpm lyx-1.4.1_qt to Mandriva
> >>>>> 2006 ? I have attempt compiled, but don't start. Don't give nothing
> >>>>> error, but don't start.
> >>>>
> >>>> Maybe, this is the appropriate time to migrate to Fedora Core. You
> >>>> will always have available the recentest version of LyX and of very
> >>>> many others programs.
> >>>>
> >>>> Paul
> >>>
> >>> I just installed on Mandriva 2006 with ./configure;make;make install.
> >>> The process was very easy, and I didn't get any dependency problems. If
> >>> you like Mandriva 2006 (I've been a Mandrake Man since 2000), this
> >>> might be an excellent way to do it, especially because you can retain
> >>> your old LyX 1.3.5 that came with Mandriva 2006.
> >>>
> >>> Let me tell you how I did it...
> >>>
> >>> tar xzvf lyx-1.4.1.tar.gz
> >>> cd lyx-1.4.1
> >>> ./configure --with-version-suffix=-1.4.1qt --with-frontend=qt
> >>> make
> >>> su
> >>> make install
> >>> exit
> >>> cp ~/.lyx/layouts/* ~/.lyx-1.4.1qt/layouts/
> >>> lyx-1.4.1qt
> >>> #tools->reconfigure
> >>> cp mybook.lyx test.lyx
> >>> lyx-1.4.1qt   test.lyx
> >>>
> >>> If you have the performance problems reported by some people, you can
> >>> compile it with xforms. Do the same thing as above, except everywhere
> >>> change qt to xforms. This will create a lyx-1.4.1xforms to coexist with
> >>> your lyx-1.4.1qt and lyx.
> >>>
> >>> If you have performance problems, please report it to the list. Then
> >>> you and I can compare everything and find out why you have performance
> >>> problems and I don't, and in doing so, perhaps you and I could help the
> >>> developers nail this elusive bug.
> >>>
> >>> HTH
> >>>
> >>> SteveT
> >>>
> >>> Steve Litt
> >>> Author:
> >>>* Universal Troubleshooting Process courseware
> >>>* Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist
> >>>* Manager's Guide to Technical Troubleshooting
> >>>* Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting
> >>>* Rapid Learning: Secret Weapon of the Successful Technologist
> >>>
> >>> http://www.troubleshooters.com/bookstore
> >>> http://www.troubleshooters.com/utp/tcourses.htm

lyx-1.4.1 to Mandriva 2006

[icebna]

Hi all :
Someone can say me, where can find the rpm lyx-1.4.1_qt to Mandriva 2006 
? I have attempt compiled, but don't start. Don't give nothing error, 
but don't start.

Miguel

Re: Centering image on Lyx 1.4.1

[Helge Hafting]

Isaac Pante wrote:

Hello everybody!

I know you have already answered at this question, but all the answers 
didn't worked for me. I'm trying to center a PDF image in my document. 
I made a floatting box, and tried to change the paragraph alignement 
setting to center. But Lyx won't do it.

Lyx can center images within the margins, assuming you set up
the centering _inside_ that floating box.  (Don't turn on
centering before making the float.  Instead, put the cursor
next to the image inside the float and apply centering.)


What is very strange is the fact that the legend is perfectly 
centered, but not the image. I also tried with a BMP image, but with 
the same result. Here is what I get:

http://isaacpante.net/problem.png

As others have pointed out already, the image is too large. Therefore it
doesn't get centered.  There is no space left, so it  is aligned with the
left margin and breaks through the right one. (Centering is
done by distributing leftover space on both sides of the image,
in this case there were no leftover space.)

It is possible to use latex commands to achieve centering in such a
way that the image breaks equally much through the left and the right
margin.  But do you really want that?  It tends to be ugly.

What I do, is to resize such big images so they fit perfectly between
the margins. This is easy in lyx, click on the image to get the
graphichs dialog, and change the output width to 100 line%.
That way, the width of the image will be exactly the width of the line,
and it will be beautifully flush with both margins.  No ugly breaking
through either margin, and perfectly centered too of course.

Helge Hafting

LyX 1.4.1: crash while opening certain file

[Lorenzo Paulatto]

I have attached a minimal file example that crashes lyx 1.4.1 when
opened. I hope you can fix it soon.

Bye and many thanks for your software!

-- 
Lorenzo `paulatz' Paulatto
Trieste

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fatto l'universo più proporzionato alla piccola capacità del lor discorso.''
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Re: LyX 1.4.1: crash while opening certain file

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 Lorenzo == Lorenzo Paulatto [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Lorenzo I have attached a minimal file example that crashes lyx 1.4.1
Lorenzo when opened. I hope you can fix it soon.

This is a bug related with italian documents. It will be fixed in
1.4.2.

JMarc

Re: lyx-1.4.1 to Mandriva 2006

[Paul Smith]

On 6/29/06, icebna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Someone can say me, where can find the rpm lyx-1.4.1_qt to Mandriva 2006
? I have attempt compiled, but don't start. Don't give nothing error,
but don't start.


Maybe, this is the appropriate time to migrate to Fedora Core. You
will always have available the recentest version of LyX and of very
many others programs.

Paul

Re: lyx-1.4.1 to Mandriva 2006

[Steve Litt]

On Thursday 29 June 2006 04:49 pm, Paul Smith wrote:
 On 6/29/06, icebna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Someone can say me, where can find the rpm lyx-1.4.1_qt to Mandriva 2006
  ? I have attempt compiled, but don't start. Don't give nothing error,
  but don't start.

 Maybe, this is the appropriate time to migrate to Fedora Core. You
 will always have available the recentest version of LyX and of very
 many others programs.

 Paul

I just installed on Mandriva 2006 with ./configure;make;make install. The 
process was very easy, and I didn't get any dependency problems. If you like 
Mandriva 2006 (I've been a Mandrake Man since 2000), this might be an 
excellent way to do it, especially because you can retain your old LyX 1.3.5 
that came with Mandriva 2006.

Let me tell you how I did it...

tar xzvf lyx-1.4.1.tar.gz
cd lyx-1.4.1
./configure --with-version-suffix=-1.4.1qt --with-frontend=qt
make
su
make install
exit
cp ~/.lyx/layouts/* ~/.lyx-1.4.1qt/layouts/
lyx-1.4.1qt
#tools-reconfigure
cp mybook.lyx test.lyx
lyx-1.4.1qt   test.lyx

If you have the performance problems reported by some people, you can compile 
it with xforms. Do the same thing as above, except everywhere change qt to 
xforms. This will create a lyx-1.4.1xforms to coexist with your lyx-1.4.1qt 
and lyx.

If you have performance problems, please report it to the list. Then you and I 
can compare everything and find out why you have performance problems and I 
don't, and in doing so, perhaps you and I could help the developers nail this 
elusive bug.

HTH

SteveT

Steve Litt
Author: 
   * Universal Troubleshooting Process courseware
   * Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist
   * Manager's Guide to Technical Troubleshooting
   * Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting
   * Rapid Learning: Secret Weapon of the Successful Technologist

http://www.troubleshooters.com/bookstore
http://www.troubleshooters.com/utp/tcourses.htm

lyx-1.4.1 to Mandriva 2006

[icebna]

Hi all :
Someone can say me, where can find the rpm lyx-1.4.1_qt to Mandriva 2006 
? I have attempt compiled, but don't start. Don't give nothing error, 
but don't start.

Miguel

Re: Centering image on Lyx 1.4.1

[Helge Hafting]

Isaac Pante wrote:

Hello everybody!

I know you have already answered at this question, but all the answers 
didn't worked for me. I'm trying to center a PDF image in my document. 
I made a floatting box, and tried to change the paragraph alignement 
setting to center. But Lyx won't do it.

Lyx can center images within the margins, assuming you set up
the centering _inside_ that floating box.  (Don't turn on
centering before making the float.  Instead, put the cursor
next to the image inside the float and apply centering.)


What is very strange is the fact that the legend is perfectly 
centered, but not the image. I also tried with a BMP image, but with 
the same result. Here is what I get:

http://isaacpante.net/problem.png

As others have pointed out already, the image is too large. Therefore it
doesn't get centered.  There is no space left, so it  is aligned with the
left margin and breaks through the right one. (Centering is
done by distributing leftover space on both sides of the image,
in this case there were no leftover space.)

It is possible to use latex commands to achieve centering in such a
way that the image breaks equally much through the left and the right
margin.  But do you really want that?  It tends to be ugly.

What I do, is to resize such big images so they fit perfectly between
the margins. This is easy in lyx, click on the image to get the
graphichs dialog, and change the output width to 100 line%.
That way, the width of the image will be exactly the width of the line,
and it will be beautifully flush with both margins.  No ugly breaking
through either margin, and perfectly centered too of course.

Helge Hafting

LyX 1.4.1: crash while opening certain file

[Lorenzo Paulatto]

I have attached a minimal file example that crashes lyx 1.4.1 when
opened. I hope you can fix it soon.

Bye and many thanks for your software!

-- 
Lorenzo `paulatz' Paulatto
Trieste

``Grandissima mi par l'inezia di coloro che vorrebbero che Iddio avesse
fatto l'universo più proporzionato alla piccola capacità del lor discorso.''
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Description: application/lyx

Re: LyX 1.4.1: crash while opening certain file

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 Lorenzo == Lorenzo Paulatto [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Lorenzo I have attached a minimal file example that crashes lyx 1.4.1
Lorenzo when opened. I hope you can fix it soon.

This is a bug related with italian documents. It will be fixed in
1.4.2.

JMarc

Re: lyx-1.4.1 to Mandriva 2006

[Paul Smith]

On 6/29/06, icebna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Someone can say me, where can find the rpm lyx-1.4.1_qt to Mandriva 2006
? I have attempt compiled, but don't start. Don't give nothing error,
but don't start.


Maybe, this is the appropriate time to migrate to Fedora Core. You
will always have available the recentest version of LyX and of very
many others programs.

Paul

Re: lyx-1.4.1 to Mandriva 2006

[Steve Litt]

On Thursday 29 June 2006 04:49 pm, Paul Smith wrote:
 On 6/29/06, icebna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Someone can say me, where can find the rpm lyx-1.4.1_qt to Mandriva 2006
  ? I have attempt compiled, but don't start. Don't give nothing error,
  but don't start.

 Maybe, this is the appropriate time to migrate to Fedora Core. You
 will always have available the recentest version of LyX and of very
 many others programs.

 Paul

I just installed on Mandriva 2006 with ./configure;make;make install. The 
process was very easy, and I didn't get any dependency problems. If you like 
Mandriva 2006 (I've been a Mandrake Man since 2000), this might be an 
excellent way to do it, especially because you can retain your old LyX 1.3.5 
that came with Mandriva 2006.

Let me tell you how I did it...

tar xzvf lyx-1.4.1.tar.gz
cd lyx-1.4.1
./configure --with-version-suffix=-1.4.1qt --with-frontend=qt
make
su
make install
exit
cp ~/.lyx/layouts/* ~/.lyx-1.4.1qt/layouts/
lyx-1.4.1qt
#tools-reconfigure
cp mybook.lyx test.lyx
lyx-1.4.1qt   test.lyx

If you have the performance problems reported by some people, you can compile 
it with xforms. Do the same thing as above, except everywhere change qt to 
xforms. This will create a lyx-1.4.1xforms to coexist with your lyx-1.4.1qt 
and lyx.

If you have performance problems, please report it to the list. Then you and I 
can compare everything and find out why you have performance problems and I 
don't, and in doing so, perhaps you and I could help the developers nail this 
elusive bug.

HTH

SteveT

Steve Litt
Author: 
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lyx-1.4.1 to Mandriva 2006

[icebna]

Hi all :
Someone can say me, where can find the rpm lyx-1.4.1_qt to Mandriva 2006 
? I have attempt compiled, but don't start. Don't give nothing error, 
but don't start.

Miguel

Re: Centering image on Lyx 1.4.1

[Helge Hafting]

Isaac Pante wrote:

Hello everybody!

I know you have already answered at this question, but all the answers 
didn't worked for me. I'm trying to center a PDF image in my document. 
I made a floatting box, and tried to change the "paragraph" alignement 
setting to "center". But Lyx won't do it.

Lyx can center images within the margins, assuming you set up
the centering _inside_ that floating box.  (Don't turn on
centering before making the float.  Instead, put the cursor
next to the image inside the float and apply centering.)


What is very strange is the fact that the legend is perfectly 
centered, but not the image. I also tried with a BMP image, but with 
the same result. Here is what I get:

http://isaacpante.net/problem.png

As others have pointed out already, the image is too large. Therefore it
doesn't get centered.  There is no space left, so it  is aligned with the
left margin and breaks through the right one. (Centering is
done by distributing leftover space on both sides of the image,
in this case there were no leftover space.)

It is possible to use latex commands to achieve "centering" in such a
way that the image breaks equally much through the left and the right
margin.  But do you really want that?  It tends to be ugly.

What I do, is to resize such big images so they fit perfectly between
the margins. This is easy in lyx, click on the image to get the
graphichs dialog, and change the output width to 100 line%.
That way, the width of the image will be exactly the width of the line,
and it will be beautifully flush with both margins.  No ugly breaking
through either margin, and perfectly centered too of course.

Helge Hafting

LyX 1.4.1: crash while opening certain file

[Lorenzo Paulatto]

I have attached a minimal file example that crashes lyx 1.4.1 when
opened. I hope you can fix it soon.

Bye and many thanks for your software!

-- 
Lorenzo `paulatz' Paulatto
Trieste

``Grandissima mi par l'inezia di coloro che vorrebbero che Iddio avesse
fatto l'universo più proporzionato alla piccola capacità del lor discorso.''
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Description: application/lyx

Re: LyX 1.4.1: crash while opening certain file

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

>>>>> "Lorenzo" == Lorenzo Paulatto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Lorenzo> I have attached a minimal file example that crashes lyx 1.4.1
Lorenzo> when opened. I hope you can fix it soon.

This is a bug related with italian documents. It will be fixed in
1.4.2.

JMarc

Re: lyx-1.4.1 to Mandriva 2006

[Paul Smith]

On 6/29/06, icebna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Someone can say me, where can find the rpm lyx-1.4.1_qt to Mandriva 2006
? I have attempt compiled, but don't start. Don't give nothing error,
but don't start.


Maybe, this is the appropriate time to migrate to Fedora Core. You
will always have available the recentest version of LyX and of very
many others programs.

Paul

Re: lyx-1.4.1 to Mandriva 2006

[Steve Litt]

On Thursday 29 June 2006 04:49 pm, Paul Smith wrote:
> On 6/29/06, icebna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Someone can say me, where can find the rpm lyx-1.4.1_qt to Mandriva 2006
> > ? I have attempt compiled, but don't start. Don't give nothing error,
> > but don't start.
>
> Maybe, this is the appropriate time to migrate to Fedora Core. You
> will always have available the recentest version of LyX and of very
> many others programs.
>
> Paul

I just installed on Mandriva 2006 with ./configure;make;make install. The 
process was very easy, and I didn't get any dependency problems. If you like 
Mandriva 2006 (I've been a Mandrake Man since 2000), this might be an 
excellent way to do it, especially because you can retain your old LyX 1.3.5 
that came with Mandriva 2006.

Let me tell you how I did it...

tar xzvf lyx-1.4.1.tar.gz
cd lyx-1.4.1
./configure --with-version-suffix=-1.4.1qt --with-frontend=qt
make
su
make install
exit
cp ~/.lyx/layouts/* ~/.lyx-1.4.1qt/layouts/
lyx-1.4.1qt
#tools->reconfigure
cp mybook.lyx test.lyx
lyx-1.4.1qt   test.lyx

If you have the performance problems reported by some people, you can compile 
it with xforms. Do the same thing as above, except everywhere change qt to 
xforms. This will create a lyx-1.4.1xforms to coexist with your lyx-1.4.1qt 
and lyx.

If you have performance problems, please report it to the list. Then you and I 
can compare everything and find out why you have performance problems and I 
don't, and in doing so, perhaps you and I could help the developers nail this 
elusive bug.

HTH

SteveT

Steve Litt
Author: 
   * Universal Troubleshooting Process courseware
   * Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist
   * Manager's Guide to Technical Troubleshooting
   * Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting
   * Rapid Learning: Secret Weapon of the Successful Technologist

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http://www.troubleshooters.com/utp/tcourses.htm

Re: Serious performance problem with LyX 1.4.1 on OS X

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 Yaron == Yaron Y Goland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Yaron First, THANK YOU! I love LyX! And the integration that 1.4.x
Yaron provided into OS X is great. It is still too slow for me to use
Yaron but the direction is great and in the meantime I can use 1.3.7
Yaron which performs just fine on my mac.

Yaron Second, any idea when 1.4.2 might be released?

I would be very glad to be able to do it this week or next week. Time
will tell.

JMarc

Re: Serious performance problem with LyX 1.4.1 on OS X

[Yaron Y. Goland]

Sorry for what? That your life interfered with providing a free  
service to the community? Gosh... shame on you! :)


Yaron

On Jun 28, 2006, at 7:06 AM, Bennett Helm wrote:


On Jun 28, 2006, at 4:45 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:


Yaron == Yaron Y Goland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Yaron First, THANK YOU! I love LyX! And the integration that 1.4.x
Yaron provided into OS X is great. It is still too slow for me to  
use

Yaron but the direction is great and in the meantime I can use 1.3.7
Yaron which performs just fine on my mac.

Yaron Second, any idea when 1.4.2 might be released?

I would be very glad to be able to do it this week or next week. Time
will tell.


Even if LyX-1.4.2 is released earlier, my packaging of LyX/ 
Mac-1.4.2 will have to wait until after July 11, however: I'll be  
pretty much offline from now until then. Sorry.


Bennett

Re: Serious performance problem with LyX 1.4.1 on OS X

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 Yaron == Yaron Y Goland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Yaron First, THANK YOU! I love LyX! And the integration that 1.4.x
Yaron provided into OS X is great. It is still too slow for me to use
Yaron but the direction is great and in the meantime I can use 1.3.7
Yaron which performs just fine on my mac.

Yaron Second, any idea when 1.4.2 might be released?

I would be very glad to be able to do it this week or next week. Time
will tell.

JMarc

Re: Serious performance problem with LyX 1.4.1 on OS X

[Yaron Y. Goland]

Sorry for what? That your life interfered with providing a free  
service to the community? Gosh... shame on you! :)


Yaron

On Jun 28, 2006, at 7:06 AM, Bennett Helm wrote:


On Jun 28, 2006, at 4:45 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:


Yaron == Yaron Y Goland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Yaron First, THANK YOU! I love LyX! And the integration that 1.4.x
Yaron provided into OS X is great. It is still too slow for me to  
use

Yaron but the direction is great and in the meantime I can use 1.3.7
Yaron which performs just fine on my mac.

Yaron Second, any idea when 1.4.2 might be released?

I would be very glad to be able to do it this week or next week. Time
will tell.


Even if LyX-1.4.2 is released earlier, my packaging of LyX/ 
Mac-1.4.2 will have to wait until after July 11, however: I'll be  
pretty much offline from now until then. Sorry.


Bennett

Re: Serious performance problem with LyX 1.4.1 on OS X

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

> "Yaron" == Yaron Y Goland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Yaron> First, THANK YOU! I love LyX! And the integration that 1.4.x
Yaron> provided into OS X is great. It is still too slow for me to use
Yaron> but the direction is great and in the meantime I can use 1.3.7
Yaron> which performs just fine on my mac.

Yaron> Second, any idea when 1.4.2 might be released?

I would be very glad to be able to do it this week or next week. Time
will tell.

JMarc

Re: Serious performance problem with LyX 1.4.1 on OS X

[Yaron Y. Goland]

Sorry for what? That your life interfered with providing a free  
service to the community? Gosh... shame on you! :)


Yaron

On Jun 28, 2006, at 7:06 AM, Bennett Helm wrote:


On Jun 28, 2006, at 4:45 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:


"Yaron" == Yaron Y Goland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


Yaron> First, THANK YOU! I love LyX! And the integration that 1.4.x
Yaron> provided into OS X is great. It is still too slow for me to  
use

Yaron> but the direction is great and in the meantime I can use 1.3.7
Yaron> which performs just fine on my mac.

Yaron> Second, any idea when 1.4.2 might be released?

I would be very glad to be able to do it this week or next week. Time
will tell.


Even if LyX-1.4.2 is released earlier, my packaging of LyX/ 
Mac-1.4.2 will have to wait until after July 11, however: I'll be  
pretty much offline from now until then. Sorry.


Bennett

Re: Serious performance problem with LyX 1.4.1 on OS X

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 Steve == Steve Litt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 If you ever upgrade to 1.4, you will find that the display is
 significantly slower with qt (for a reason we do not really
 understand). The old xforms version is still ugly, but snappy.

Steve Do I need to recompile to switch to Xforms?

Yes, unless you can find it precompiled for your platform.

In 1.3, when you configure without any special option, you do get the
xforms version. To get the qt version, you need to use the switch
--with-frontend=qt. I do not think you will find that the xforms
frontend is better in 1.3.

In 1.4, it is required to specify which frontend you want (xforms, qt,
or the unofficial gtk). You can even specify several frontends, like
--with-frontend='qt xforms'. Xforms will feel snappier, in particular
when scrolling or selecting text. But of course it is ugly (in
particular the fonts are not antialiased on screen).

JMarc

Re: Serious performance problem with LyX 1.4.1 on OS X

[Yaron Y. Goland]

First, THANK YOU! I love LyX! And the integration that 1.4.x provided  
into OS X is great. It is still too slow for me to use but the  
direction is great and in the meantime I can use 1.3.7 which performs  
just fine on my mac.


Second, any idea when 1.4.2 might be released?

Thanks,

Yaron

P.S. If I can make a feature request for 1.4.2 what about native  
support for hypertarget and hyperlink? Having to enter and manage  
these manually as ERT is a nightmare!


On Jun 26, 2006, at 8:42 AM, Bennett Helm wrote:


On Jun 26, 2006, at 11:26 AM, Steve Litt wrote:


Hi Yaron,

I've never used LyX 1.4.x, but from what I understand they've made  
LyX support
multiple graphics libraries, whereas in the old days it was just  
Xforms. See
if there's any way to configure your LyX so it uses Xforms rather  
than KDE

bloated stuff like that.


This is not possible on Mac (natively).

1.4.2 -- currently still undergoing testing -- will be much better  
for speed on Mac. (It's acceptable for me on a 466 MHz iBook, which  
was impossible to use with 1.4.1.)


Bennett

Re: Serious performance problem with LyX 1.4.1 on OS X

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 Steve == Steve Litt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 If you ever upgrade to 1.4, you will find that the display is
 significantly slower with qt (for a reason we do not really
 understand). The old xforms version is still ugly, but snappy.

Steve Do I need to recompile to switch to Xforms?

Yes, unless you can find it precompiled for your platform.

In 1.3, when you configure without any special option, you do get the
xforms version. To get the qt version, you need to use the switch
--with-frontend=qt. I do not think you will find that the xforms
frontend is better in 1.3.

In 1.4, it is required to specify which frontend you want (xforms, qt,
or the unofficial gtk). You can even specify several frontends, like
--with-frontend='qt xforms'. Xforms will feel snappier, in particular
when scrolling or selecting text. But of course it is ugly (in
particular the fonts are not antialiased on screen).

JMarc

Re: Serious performance problem with LyX 1.4.1 on OS X

[Yaron Y. Goland]

First, THANK YOU! I love LyX! And the integration that 1.4.x provided  
into OS X is great. It is still too slow for me to use but the  
direction is great and in the meantime I can use 1.3.7 which performs  
just fine on my mac.


Second, any idea when 1.4.2 might be released?

Thanks,

Yaron

P.S. If I can make a feature request for 1.4.2 what about native  
support for hypertarget and hyperlink? Having to enter and manage  
these manually as ERT is a nightmare!


On Jun 26, 2006, at 8:42 AM, Bennett Helm wrote:


On Jun 26, 2006, at 11:26 AM, Steve Litt wrote:


Hi Yaron,

I've never used LyX 1.4.x, but from what I understand they've made  
LyX support
multiple graphics libraries, whereas in the old days it was just  
Xforms. See
if there's any way to configure your LyX so it uses Xforms rather  
than KDE

bloated stuff like that.


This is not possible on Mac (natively).

1.4.2 -- currently still undergoing testing -- will be much better  
for speed on Mac. (It's acceptable for me on a 466 MHz iBook, which  
was impossible to use with 1.4.1.)


Bennett

Re: Serious performance problem with LyX 1.4.1 on OS X

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

> "Steve" == Steve Litt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> If you ever upgrade to 1.4, you will find that the display is
>> significantly slower with qt (for a reason we do not really
>> understand). The old xforms version is still ugly, but snappy.

Steve> Do I need to recompile to switch to Xforms?

Yes, unless you can find it precompiled for your platform.

In 1.3, when you configure without any special option, you do get the
xforms version. To get the qt version, you need to use the switch
--with-frontend=qt. I do not think you will find that the xforms
frontend is better in 1.3.

In 1.4, it is required to specify which frontend you want (xforms, qt,
or the unofficial gtk). You can even specify several frontends, like
--with-frontend='qt xforms'. Xforms will feel snappier, in particular
when scrolling or selecting text. But of course it is ugly (in
particular the fonts are not antialiased on screen).

JMarc

Re: Serious performance problem with LyX 1.4.1 on OS X

[Yaron Y. Goland]

First, THANK YOU! I love LyX! And the integration that 1.4.x provided  
into OS X is great. It is still too slow for me to use but the  
direction is great and in the meantime I can use 1.3.7 which performs  
just fine on my mac.


Second, any idea when 1.4.2 might be released?

Thanks,

Yaron

P.S. If I can make a feature request for 1.4.2 what about native  
support for hypertarget and hyperlink? Having to enter and manage  
these manually as ERT is a nightmare!


On Jun 26, 2006, at 8:42 AM, Bennett Helm wrote:


On Jun 26, 2006, at 11:26 AM, Steve Litt wrote:


Hi Yaron,

I've never used LyX 1.4.x, but from what I understand they've made  
LyX support
multiple graphics libraries, whereas in the old days it was just  
Xforms. See
if there's any way to configure your LyX so it uses Xforms rather  
than KDE

bloated stuff like that.


This is not possible on Mac (natively).

1.4.2 -- currently still undergoing testing -- will be much better  
for speed on Mac. (It's acceptable for me on a 466 MHz iBook, which  
was impossible to use with 1.4.1.)


Bennett

Re: Serious performance problem with LyX 1.4.1 on OS X

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 Yaron == Yaron Y Goland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Yaron When I first installed LyX 1.4.0 on OS X I had such serious
Yaron performance problems that even on my dual proc G5 with 1 gig of
Yaron Ram I could trivially type faster than LyX could print out my
Yaron characters. So when LyX 1.4.1 was released with a focus on
Yaron performance I was very excited. Unfortunately LyX 1.4.1 is as
Yaron slow for me as LyX 1.4.0 is. In fact even on simple documents
Yaron containing little more than text (e.g.
Yaron http://www.goland.org/webtemplate.lyx) just typing simple text
Yaron is so slow that I can easily out type LyX.

The performance improvements in 1.4.1 were mostly for when typing
inside insets. LyX 1.4.2 will have some speedup for LyX/Mac, but there
is still some inherent drawing performance problem we are not able to
pinpoint.

JMarc

Re: Serious performance problem with LyX 1.4.1 on OS X

[Steve Litt]

On Monday 26 June 2006 01:54 am, Yaron Y. Goland wrote:
 When I first installed LyX 1.4.0 on OS X I had such serious
 performance problems that even on my dual proc G5 with 1 gig of Ram I
 could trivially type faster than LyX could print out my characters.
 So when LyX 1.4.1 was released with a focus on performance I was very
 excited. Unfortunately LyX 1.4.1 is as slow for me as LyX 1.4.0 is.
 In fact even on simple documents containing little more than text
 (e.g. http://www.goland.org/webtemplate.lyx) just typing simple text
 is so slow that I can easily out type LyX.

 Please note that I made sure to delete LyX 1.4.0 and do a new install
 of LyX 1.4.1 and then confirm that my newly installed program is
 indeed LyX 1.4.1

 If anyone has any suggestions or ideas I would love to hear them
 because I depend on LyX for a book I'm writing and as things now
 stand I'm in trouble.

   Thanks,

   Yaron


Hi Yaron,

I've never used LyX 1.4.x, but from what I understand they've made LyX support 
multiple graphics libraries, whereas in the old days it was just Xforms. See 
if there's any way to configure your LyX so it uses Xforms rather than KDE 
bloated stuff like that.

I use the Xforms interface in 1.3.6 (and have for many older versions), and 
personally I never did see the need to have it support anything else -- after 
all, LyX is just a simple front end to LaTeX.

SteveT


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Re: Serious performance problem with LyX 1.4.1 on OS X

[Bennett Helm]

On Jun 26, 2006, at 11:26 AM, Steve Litt wrote:


Hi Yaron,

I've never used LyX 1.4.x, but from what I understand they've made  
LyX support
multiple graphics libraries, whereas in the old days it was just  
Xforms. See
if there's any way to configure your LyX so it uses Xforms rather  
than KDE

bloated stuff like that.


This is not possible on Mac (natively).

1.4.2 -- currently still undergoing testing -- will be much better  
for speed on Mac. (It's acceptable for me on a 466 MHz iBook, which  
was impossible to use with 1.4.1.)


Bennett

Re: Serious performance problem with LyX 1.4.1 on OS X

[Steve Litt]

On Monday 26 June 2006 11:42 am, Bennett Helm wrote:
 On Jun 26, 2006, at 11:26 AM, Steve Litt wrote:
  Hi Yaron,
 
  I've never used LyX 1.4.x, but from what I understand they've made
  LyX support
  multiple graphics libraries, whereas in the old days it was just
  Xforms. See
  if there's any way to configure your LyX so it uses Xforms rather
  than KDE
  bloated stuff like that.

 This is not possible on Mac (natively).

Curious -- is it possible on Linux? I'd really hate to have a great product 
slide backwards just to make a prettier screen and more KDE 
interoperability or Gnome interoperability, whatever those are.

Is the default graphics library on LyX 1.4 Qt? Ughh. Is Xforms still 
available? I like it -- it's worked every time for me since 2000.

SteveT

Steve Litt
Author: 
   * Universal Troubleshooting Process courseware
   * Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist
   * Manager's Guide to Technical Troubleshooting
   * Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting
   * Rapid Learning: Secret Weapon of the Successful Technologist

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Re: Serious performance problem with LyX 1.4.1 on OS X

[Bennett Helm]

On Jun 26, 2006, at 1:59 PM, Steve Litt wrote:


On Monday 26 June 2006 11:42 am, Bennett Helm wrote:

On Jun 26, 2006, at 11:26 AM, Steve Litt wrote:

Hi Yaron,

I've never used LyX 1.4.x, but from what I understand they've made
LyX support
multiple graphics libraries, whereas in the old days it was just
Xforms. See
if there's any way to configure your LyX so it uses Xforms rather
than KDE
bloated stuff like that.


This is not possible on Mac (natively).


Curious -- is it possible on Linux? I'd really hate to have a great  
product

slide backwards just to make a prettier screen and more KDE
interoperability or Gnome interoperability, whatever those are.

Is the default graphics library on LyX 1.4 Qt? Ughh. Is Xforms still
available? I like it -- it's worked every time for me since 2000.


All I meant is that the native Mac port of LyX depends on Qt. LyX-1.4  
should work with Xforms on Linux, but on Mac doing so would require  
an X11 environment that is not nicely integrated with the rest of Mac  
OS X. (I don't know about Windows.)


Bennett

Re: Serious performance problem with LyX 1.4.1 on OS X

[Georg Baum]

Steve Litt wrote:

 On Monday 26 June 2006 11:42 am, Bennett Helm wrote:
 On Jun 26, 2006, at 11:26 AM, Steve Litt wrote:
  Hi Yaron,
 
  I've never used LyX 1.4.x, but from what I understand they've made
  LyX support
  multiple graphics libraries, whereas in the old days it was just
  Xforms. See
  if there's any way to configure your LyX so it uses Xforms rather
  than KDE
  bloated stuff like that.

 This is not possible on Mac (natively).
 
 Curious -- is it possible on Linux?

Of course - at compile time. What Bennet probably meant was that if you want
a native Mac LyX with Aqua GUI you have only one choice: qt. You can of
course use LyX xforms via the X server if you want to. I don't know if
anybody did it, but assume that xforms is available via fink.

 I'd really hate to have a great 
 product slide backwards just to make a prettier screen and more KDE
 interoperability or Gnome interoperability, whatever those are.
 
 Is the default graphics library on LyX 1.4 Qt?

Yes.

 Ughh. Is Xforms still 
 available?

Yes, but probably not in 1.5 when it comes out.


Georg

Re: Serious performance problem with LyX 1.4.1 on OS X

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

Steve Litt wrote:
 Is the default graphics library on LyX 1.4 Qt? 

Yes. It already was in LyX 1.3 IIRC.

 Ughh. Is Xforms still 
 available?

Yes. Still.

Jürgen

Re: Serious performance problem with LyX 1.4.1 on OS X

[Steve Litt]

On Monday 26 June 2006 02:14 pm, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
 Steve Litt wrote:
  Is the default graphics library on LyX 1.4 Qt?

 Yes. It already was in LyX 1.3 IIRC.

That's interesting. I use 1.3.5 currently. How can I tell whether I'm using 
Xforms or Qt? I assumed Xforms because it looks the same as it always looked.

Thanks

SteveT

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Re: Serious performance problem with LyX 1.4.1 on OS X

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 Georg == Georg Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Is the default graphics library on LyX 1.4 Qt?

Georg Yes.

Well, not really. Now there is no default :)

JMarc

Re: Serious performance problem with LyX 1.4.1 on OS X

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 Steve == Steve Litt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Steve On Monday 26 June 2006 02:14 pm, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
 Steve Litt wrote:  Is the default graphics library on LyX 1.4 Qt?
 
 Yes. It already was in LyX 1.3 IIRC.

Steve That's interesting. I use 1.3.5 currently. How can I tell
Steve whether I'm using Xforms or Qt? I assumed Xforms because it
Steve looks the same as it always looked.

The it is xforms. You can run 'lyx --version' to know for sure.

JMarc

Re: Serious performance problem with LyX 1.4.1 on OS X

[Steve Litt]

On Monday 26 June 2006 04:32 pm, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
  Steve == Steve Litt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Steve On Monday 26 June 2006 02:14 pm, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
  Steve Litt wrote:  Is the default graphics library on LyX 1.4 Qt?
 
  Yes. It already was in LyX 1.3 IIRC.

 Steve That's interesting. I use 1.3.5 currently. How can I tell
 Steve whether I'm using Xforms or Qt? I assumed Xforms because it
 Steve looks the same as it always looked.

 The it is xforms. You can run 'lyx --version' to know for sure.

 JMarc

Well looky looky...
===
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ lyx --version
LyX 1.3.5 of Wed, Oct 6, 2004
Built on Sep  9 2005, 18:48:14
Configuration
  Host type:  i586-mandriva-linux-gnu
  Special build flags:   
  C   Compiler:   gcc
  C   Compiler flags: -O2  -pipe -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 
-fomit-frame-pointer -march=i586 -mtune=pentiumpro
  C++ Compiler:   g++ (4.0.1)
  C++ Compiler flags: -O2 -Wall -W
  Linker flags:   
  Frontend:   qt
Qt version:   3.3.4
  LyX binary dir: /usr/bin
  LyX files dir:  /usr/share/lyx

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$
===

I've been using qt all along, and have observed absolutely no problems. Here's 
what my machine looks like:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] proc]$ cat meminfo | head -n2
MemTotal:  1555824 kB
MemFree:718944 kB

[EMAIL PROTECTED] proc]$ cat cpuinfo | head -n8
processor   : 0
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family  : 6
model   : 10
model name  : AMD Athlon(TM) XP 2600+
stepping: 0
cpu MHz : 1916.547
cache size  : 512 KB

[EMAIL PROTECTED] proc]$ uname -a
Linux mydesk.domain.cxm 2.6.12-12mdk #1 Fri Sep 9 18:15:22 CEST 2005 i686 AMD 
Athlon(TM) XP 2600+ unknown GNU/Linux

[EMAIL PROTECTED] proc]$

So I officially withdraw my objections to qt. I've been using it the past 
several months, thinking it was Xforms, and liking it just fine.

Thanks for the tip!

SteveT

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Re: Serious performance problem with LyX 1.4.1 on OS X

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 Steve == Steve Litt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Steve So I officially withdraw my objections to qt. I've been using
Steve it the past several months, thinking it was Xforms, and liking
Steve it just fine.

:)

If you ever upgrade to 1.4, you will find that the display is
significantly slower with qt (for a reason we do not really
understand). The old xforms version is still ugly, but snappy.

JMarc

Re: Serious performance problem with LyX 1.4.1 on OS X

[Steve Litt]

On Monday 26 June 2006 05:52 pm, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
  Steve == Steve Litt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Steve So I officially withdraw my objections to qt. I've been using
 Steve it the past several months, thinking it was Xforms, and liking
 Steve it just fine.

 :)

 If you ever upgrade to 1.4, you will find that the display is
 significantly slower with qt (for a reason we do not really
 understand). The old xforms version is still ugly, but snappy.

Do I need to recompile to switch to Xforms?

SteveT

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Re: Serious performance problem with LyX 1.4.1 on OS X

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 Yaron == Yaron Y Goland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Yaron When I first installed LyX 1.4.0 on OS X I had such serious
Yaron performance problems that even on my dual proc G5 with 1 gig of
Yaron Ram I could trivially type faster than LyX could print out my
Yaron characters. So when LyX 1.4.1 was released with a focus on
Yaron performance I was very excited. Unfortunately LyX 1.4.1 is as
Yaron slow for me as LyX 1.4.0 is. In fact even on simple documents
Yaron containing little more than text (e.g.
Yaron http://www.goland.org/webtemplate.lyx) just typing simple text
Yaron is so slow that I can easily out type LyX.

The performance improvements in 1.4.1 were mostly for when typing
inside insets. LyX 1.4.2 will have some speedup for LyX/Mac, but there
is still some inherent drawing performance problem we are not able to
pinpoint.

JMarc

Re: Serious performance problem with LyX 1.4.1 on OS X

[Steve Litt]

On Monday 26 June 2006 01:54 am, Yaron Y. Goland wrote:
 When I first installed LyX 1.4.0 on OS X I had such serious
 performance problems that even on my dual proc G5 with 1 gig of Ram I
 could trivially type faster than LyX could print out my characters.
 So when LyX 1.4.1 was released with a focus on performance I was very
 excited. Unfortunately LyX 1.4.1 is as slow for me as LyX 1.4.0 is.
 In fact even on simple documents containing little more than text
 (e.g. http://www.goland.org/webtemplate.lyx) just typing simple text
 is so slow that I can easily out type LyX.

 Please note that I made sure to delete LyX 1.4.0 and do a new install
 of LyX 1.4.1 and then confirm that my newly installed program is
 indeed LyX 1.4.1

 If anyone has any suggestions or ideas I would love to hear them
 because I depend on LyX for a book I'm writing and as things now
 stand I'm in trouble.

   Thanks,

   Yaron


Hi Yaron,

I've never used LyX 1.4.x, but from what I understand they've made LyX support 
multiple graphics libraries, whereas in the old days it was just Xforms. See 
if there's any way to configure your LyX so it uses Xforms rather than KDE 
bloated stuff like that.

I use the Xforms interface in 1.3.6 (and have for many older versions), and 
personally I never did see the need to have it support anything else -- after 
all, LyX is just a simple front end to LaTeX.

SteveT


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Re: Serious performance problem with LyX 1.4.1 on OS X

[Bennett Helm]

On Jun 26, 2006, at 11:26 AM, Steve Litt wrote:


Hi Yaron,

I've never used LyX 1.4.x, but from what I understand they've made  
LyX support
multiple graphics libraries, whereas in the old days it was just  
Xforms. See
if there's any way to configure your LyX so it uses Xforms rather  
than KDE

bloated stuff like that.


This is not possible on Mac (natively).

1.4.2 -- currently still undergoing testing -- will be much better  
for speed on Mac. (It's acceptable for me on a 466 MHz iBook, which  
was impossible to use with 1.4.1.)


Bennett

Re: Serious performance problem with LyX 1.4.1 on OS X

[Steve Litt]

On Monday 26 June 2006 11:42 am, Bennett Helm wrote:
 On Jun 26, 2006, at 11:26 AM, Steve Litt wrote:
  Hi Yaron,
 
  I've never used LyX 1.4.x, but from what I understand they've made
  LyX support
  multiple graphics libraries, whereas in the old days it was just
  Xforms. See
  if there's any way to configure your LyX so it uses Xforms rather
  than KDE
  bloated stuff like that.

 This is not possible on Mac (natively).

Curious -- is it possible on Linux? I'd really hate to have a great product 
slide backwards just to make a prettier screen and more KDE 
interoperability or Gnome interoperability, whatever those are.

Is the default graphics library on LyX 1.4 Qt? Ughh. Is Xforms still 
available? I like it -- it's worked every time for me since 2000.

SteveT

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Author: 
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Re: Serious performance problem with LyX 1.4.1 on OS X

[Bennett Helm]

On Jun 26, 2006, at 1:59 PM, Steve Litt wrote:


On Monday 26 June 2006 11:42 am, Bennett Helm wrote:

On Jun 26, 2006, at 11:26 AM, Steve Litt wrote:

Hi Yaron,

I've never used LyX 1.4.x, but from what I understand they've made
LyX support
multiple graphics libraries, whereas in the old days it was just
Xforms. See
if there's any way to configure your LyX so it uses Xforms rather
than KDE
bloated stuff like that.


This is not possible on Mac (natively).


Curious -- is it possible on Linux? I'd really hate to have a great  
product

slide backwards just to make a prettier screen and more KDE
interoperability or Gnome interoperability, whatever those are.

Is the default graphics library on LyX 1.4 Qt? Ughh. Is Xforms still
available? I like it -- it's worked every time for me since 2000.


All I meant is that the native Mac port of LyX depends on Qt. LyX-1.4  
should work with Xforms on Linux, but on Mac doing so would require  
an X11 environment that is not nicely integrated with the rest of Mac  
OS X. (I don't know about Windows.)


Bennett

Re: Serious performance problem with LyX 1.4.1 on OS X

[Georg Baum]

Steve Litt wrote:

 On Monday 26 June 2006 11:42 am, Bennett Helm wrote:
 On Jun 26, 2006, at 11:26 AM, Steve Litt wrote:
  Hi Yaron,
 
  I've never used LyX 1.4.x, but from what I understand they've made
  LyX support
  multiple graphics libraries, whereas in the old days it was just
  Xforms. See
  if there's any way to configure your LyX so it uses Xforms rather
  than KDE
  bloated stuff like that.

 This is not possible on Mac (natively).
 
 Curious -- is it possible on Linux?

Of course - at compile time. What Bennet probably meant was that if you want
a native Mac LyX with Aqua GUI you have only one choice: qt. You can of
course use LyX xforms via the X server if you want to. I don't know if
anybody did it, but assume that xforms is available via fink.

 I'd really hate to have a great 
 product slide backwards just to make a prettier screen and more KDE
 interoperability or Gnome interoperability, whatever those are.
 
 Is the default graphics library on LyX 1.4 Qt?

Yes.

 Ughh. Is Xforms still 
 available?

Yes, but probably not in 1.5 when it comes out.


Georg

Re: Serious performance problem with LyX 1.4.1 on OS X

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

Steve Litt wrote:
 Is the default graphics library on LyX 1.4 Qt? 

Yes. It already was in LyX 1.3 IIRC.

 Ughh. Is Xforms still 
 available?

Yes. Still.

Jürgen

Re: Serious performance problem with LyX 1.4.1 on OS X

[Steve Litt]

On Monday 26 June 2006 02:14 pm, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
 Steve Litt wrote:
  Is the default graphics library on LyX 1.4 Qt?

 Yes. It already was in LyX 1.3 IIRC.

That's interesting. I use 1.3.5 currently. How can I tell whether I'm using 
Xforms or Qt? I assumed Xforms because it looks the same as it always looked.

Thanks

SteveT

Steve Litt
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Re: Serious performance problem with LyX 1.4.1 on OS X

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 Georg == Georg Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Is the default graphics library on LyX 1.4 Qt?

Georg Yes.

Well, not really. Now there is no default :)

JMarc

Re: Serious performance problem with LyX 1.4.1 on OS X

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 Steve == Steve Litt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Steve On Monday 26 June 2006 02:14 pm, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
 Steve Litt wrote:  Is the default graphics library on LyX 1.4 Qt?
 
 Yes. It already was in LyX 1.3 IIRC.

Steve That's interesting. I use 1.3.5 currently. How can I tell
Steve whether I'm using Xforms or Qt? I assumed Xforms because it
Steve looks the same as it always looked.

The it is xforms. You can run 'lyx --version' to know for sure.

JMarc

Re: Serious performance problem with LyX 1.4.1 on OS X

[Steve Litt]

On Monday 26 June 2006 04:32 pm, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
  Steve == Steve Litt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Steve On Monday 26 June 2006 02:14 pm, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
  Steve Litt wrote:  Is the default graphics library on LyX 1.4 Qt?
 
  Yes. It already was in LyX 1.3 IIRC.

 Steve That's interesting. I use 1.3.5 currently. How can I tell
 Steve whether I'm using Xforms or Qt? I assumed Xforms because it
 Steve looks the same as it always looked.

 The it is xforms. You can run 'lyx --version' to know for sure.

 JMarc

Well looky looky...
===
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ lyx --version
LyX 1.3.5 of Wed, Oct 6, 2004
Built on Sep  9 2005, 18:48:14
Configuration
  Host type:  i586-mandriva-linux-gnu
  Special build flags:   
  C   Compiler:   gcc
  C   Compiler flags: -O2  -pipe -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 
-fomit-frame-pointer -march=i586 -mtune=pentiumpro
  C++ Compiler:   g++ (4.0.1)
  C++ Compiler flags: -O2 -Wall -W
  Linker flags:   
  Frontend:   qt
Qt version:   3.3.4
  LyX binary dir: /usr/bin
  LyX files dir:  /usr/share/lyx

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$
===

I've been using qt all along, and have observed absolutely no problems. Here's 
what my machine looks like:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] proc]$ cat meminfo | head -n2
MemTotal:  1555824 kB
MemFree:718944 kB

[EMAIL PROTECTED] proc]$ cat cpuinfo | head -n8
processor   : 0
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family  : 6
model   : 10
model name  : AMD Athlon(TM) XP 2600+
stepping: 0
cpu MHz : 1916.547
cache size  : 512 KB

[EMAIL PROTECTED] proc]$ uname -a
Linux mydesk.domain.cxm 2.6.12-12mdk #1 Fri Sep 9 18:15:22 CEST 2005 i686 AMD 
Athlon(TM) XP 2600+ unknown GNU/Linux

[EMAIL PROTECTED] proc]$

So I officially withdraw my objections to qt. I've been using it the past 
several months, thinking it was Xforms, and liking it just fine.

Thanks for the tip!

SteveT

Steve Litt
Author: 
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Re: Serious performance problem with LyX 1.4.1 on OS X

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 Steve == Steve Litt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Steve So I officially withdraw my objections to qt. I've been using
Steve it the past several months, thinking it was Xforms, and liking
Steve it just fine.

:)

If you ever upgrade to 1.4, you will find that the display is
significantly slower with qt (for a reason we do not really
understand). The old xforms version is still ugly, but snappy.

JMarc

Re: Serious performance problem with LyX 1.4.1 on OS X

[Steve Litt]

On Monday 26 June 2006 05:52 pm, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
  Steve == Steve Litt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Steve So I officially withdraw my objections to qt. I've been using
 Steve it the past several months, thinking it was Xforms, and liking
 Steve it just fine.

 :)

 If you ever upgrade to 1.4, you will find that the display is
 significantly slower with qt (for a reason we do not really
 understand). The old xforms version is still ugly, but snappy.

Do I need to recompile to switch to Xforms?

SteveT

Steve Litt
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Re: Serious performance problem with LyX 1.4.1 on OS X

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

>>>>> "Yaron" == Yaron Y Goland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Yaron> When I first installed LyX 1.4.0 on OS X I had such serious
Yaron> performance problems that even on my dual proc G5 with 1 gig of
Yaron> Ram I could trivially type faster than LyX could print out my
Yaron> characters. So when LyX 1.4.1 was released with a focus on
Yaron> performance I was very excited. Unfortunately LyX 1.4.1 is as
Yaron> slow for me as LyX 1.4.0 is. In fact even on simple documents
Yaron> containing little more than text (e.g.
Yaron> http://www.goland.org/webtemplate.lyx) just typing simple text
Yaron> is so slow that I can easily out type LyX.

The performance improvements in 1.4.1 were mostly for when typing
inside insets. LyX 1.4.2 will have some speedup for LyX/Mac, but there
is still some inherent drawing performance problem we are not able to
pinpoint.

JMarc

Re: Serious performance problem with LyX 1.4.1 on OS X

[Steve Litt]

On Monday 26 June 2006 01:54 am, Yaron Y. Goland wrote:
> When I first installed LyX 1.4.0 on OS X I had such serious
> performance problems that even on my dual proc G5 with 1 gig of Ram I
> could trivially type faster than LyX could print out my characters.
> So when LyX 1.4.1 was released with a focus on performance I was very
> excited. Unfortunately LyX 1.4.1 is as slow for me as LyX 1.4.0 is.
> In fact even on simple documents containing little more than text
> (e.g. http://www.goland.org/webtemplate.lyx) just typing simple text
> is so slow that I can easily out type LyX.
>
> Please note that I made sure to delete LyX 1.4.0 and do a new install
> of LyX 1.4.1 and then confirm that my newly installed program is
> indeed LyX 1.4.1
>
> If anyone has any suggestions or ideas I would love to hear them
> because I depend on LyX for a book I'm writing and as things now
> stand I'm in trouble.
>
>   Thanks,
>
>   Yaron


Hi Yaron,

I've never used LyX 1.4.x, but from what I understand they've made LyX support 
multiple graphics libraries, whereas in the old days it was just Xforms. See 
if there's any way to configure your LyX so it uses Xforms rather than KDE 
bloated stuff like that.

I use the Xforms interface in 1.3.6 (and have for many older versions), and 
personally I never did see the need to have it support anything else -- after 
all, LyX is just a simple front end to LaTeX.

SteveT


-- 
Steve Litt
Author: 
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Re: Serious performance problem with LyX 1.4.1 on OS X

[Bennett Helm]

On Jun 26, 2006, at 11:26 AM, Steve Litt wrote:


Hi Yaron,

I've never used LyX 1.4.x, but from what I understand they've made  
LyX support
multiple graphics libraries, whereas in the old days it was just  
Xforms. See
if there's any way to configure your LyX so it uses Xforms rather  
than KDE

bloated stuff like that.


This is not possible on Mac (natively).

1.4.2 -- currently still undergoing testing -- will be much better  
for speed on Mac. (It's acceptable for me on a 466 MHz iBook, which  
was impossible to use with 1.4.1.)


Bennett

Re: Serious performance problem with LyX 1.4.1 on OS X

[Steve Litt]

On Monday 26 June 2006 11:42 am, Bennett Helm wrote:
> On Jun 26, 2006, at 11:26 AM, Steve Litt wrote:
> > Hi Yaron,
> >
> > I've never used LyX 1.4.x, but from what I understand they've made
> > LyX support
> > multiple graphics libraries, whereas in the old days it was just
> > Xforms. See
> > if there's any way to configure your LyX so it uses Xforms rather
> > than KDE
> > bloated stuff like that.
>
> This is not possible on Mac (natively).

Curious -- is it possible on Linux? I'd really hate to have a great product 
slide backwards just to make a prettier screen and more "KDE 
interoperability" or "Gnome interoperability", whatever those are.

Is the default graphics library on LyX 1.4 Qt? Ughh. Is Xforms still 
available? I like it -- it's worked every time for me since 2000.

SteveT

Steve Litt
Author: 
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Re: Serious performance problem with LyX 1.4.1 on OS X

[Bennett Helm]

On Jun 26, 2006, at 1:59 PM, Steve Litt wrote:


On Monday 26 June 2006 11:42 am, Bennett Helm wrote:

On Jun 26, 2006, at 11:26 AM, Steve Litt wrote:

Hi Yaron,

I've never used LyX 1.4.x, but from what I understand they've made
LyX support
multiple graphics libraries, whereas in the old days it was just
Xforms. See
if there's any way to configure your LyX so it uses Xforms rather
than KDE
bloated stuff like that.


This is not possible on Mac (natively).


Curious -- is it possible on Linux? I'd really hate to have a great  
product

slide backwards just to make a prettier screen and more "KDE
interoperability" or "Gnome interoperability", whatever those are.

Is the default graphics library on LyX 1.4 Qt? Ughh. Is Xforms still
available? I like it -- it's worked every time for me since 2000.


All I meant is that the native Mac port of LyX depends on Qt. LyX-1.4  
should work with Xforms on Linux, but on Mac doing so would require  
an X11 environment that is not nicely integrated with the rest of Mac  
OS X. (I don't know about Windows.)


Bennett

Re: Serious performance problem with LyX 1.4.1 on OS X

[Georg Baum]

Steve Litt wrote:

> On Monday 26 June 2006 11:42 am, Bennett Helm wrote:
>> On Jun 26, 2006, at 11:26 AM, Steve Litt wrote:
>> > Hi Yaron,
>> >
>> > I've never used LyX 1.4.x, but from what I understand they've made
>> > LyX support
>> > multiple graphics libraries, whereas in the old days it was just
>> > Xforms. See
>> > if there's any way to configure your LyX so it uses Xforms rather
>> > than KDE
>> > bloated stuff like that.
>>
>> This is not possible on Mac (natively).
> 
> Curious -- is it possible on Linux?

Of course - at compile time. What Bennet probably meant was that if you want
a native Mac LyX with Aqua GUI you have only one choice: qt. You can of
course use LyX xforms via the X server if you want to. I don't know if
anybody did it, but assume that xforms is available via fink.

> I'd really hate to have a great 
> product slide backwards just to make a prettier screen and more "KDE
> interoperability" or "Gnome interoperability", whatever those are.
> 
> Is the default graphics library on LyX 1.4 Qt?

Yes.

> Ughh. Is Xforms still 
> available?

Yes, but probably not in 1.5 when it comes out.


Georg

Re: Serious performance problem with LyX 1.4.1 on OS X

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

Steve Litt wrote:
> Is the default graphics library on LyX 1.4 Qt? 

Yes. It already was in LyX 1.3 IIRC.

> Ughh. Is Xforms still 
> available?

Yes. Still.

Jürgen

Re: Serious performance problem with LyX 1.4.1 on OS X

[Steve Litt]

On Monday 26 June 2006 02:14 pm, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
> Steve Litt wrote:
> > Is the default graphics library on LyX 1.4 Qt?
>
> Yes. It already was in LyX 1.3 IIRC.

That's interesting. I use 1.3.5 currently. How can I tell whether I'm using 
Xforms or Qt? I assumed Xforms because it looks the same as it always looked.

Thanks

SteveT

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Re: Serious performance problem with LyX 1.4.1 on OS X

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

> "Georg" == Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> Is the default graphics library on LyX 1.4 Qt?

Georg> Yes.

Well, not really. Now there is no default :)

JMarc

Re: Serious performance problem with LyX 1.4.1 on OS X

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

> "Steve" == Steve Litt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Steve> On Monday 26 June 2006 02:14 pm, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
>> Steve Litt wrote: > Is the default graphics library on LyX 1.4 Qt?
>> 
>> Yes. It already was in LyX 1.3 IIRC.

Steve> That's interesting. I use 1.3.5 currently. How can I tell
Steve> whether I'm using Xforms or Qt? I assumed Xforms because it
Steve> looks the same as it always looked.

The it is xforms. You can run 'lyx --version' to know for sure.

JMarc

Re: Serious performance problem with LyX 1.4.1 on OS X

[Steve Litt]

On Monday 26 June 2006 04:32 pm, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> > "Steve" == Steve Litt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Steve> On Monday 26 June 2006 02:14 pm, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
> >> Steve Litt wrote: > Is the default graphics library on LyX 1.4 Qt?
> >>
> >> Yes. It already was in LyX 1.3 IIRC.
>
> Steve> That's interesting. I use 1.3.5 currently. How can I tell
> Steve> whether I'm using Xforms or Qt? I assumed Xforms because it
> Steve> looks the same as it always looked.
>
> The it is xforms. You can run 'lyx --version' to know for sure.
>
> JMarc

Well looky looky...
===
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ lyx --version
LyX 1.3.5 of Wed, Oct 6, 2004
Built on Sep  9 2005, 18:48:14
Configuration
  Host type:  i586-mandriva-linux-gnu
  Special build flags:   
  C   Compiler:   gcc
  C   Compiler flags: -O2  -pipe -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 
-fomit-frame-pointer -march=i586 -mtune=pentiumpro
  C++ Compiler:   g++ (4.0.1)
  C++ Compiler flags: -O2 -Wall -W
  Linker flags:   
  Frontend:   qt
Qt version:   3.3.4
  LyX binary dir: /usr/bin
  LyX files dir:  /usr/share/lyx

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$
===

I've been using qt all along, and have observed absolutely no problems. Here's 
what my machine looks like:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] proc]$ cat meminfo | head -n2
MemTotal:  1555824 kB
MemFree:718944 kB

[EMAIL PROTECTED] proc]$ cat cpuinfo | head -n8
processor   : 0
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family  : 6
model   : 10
model name  : AMD Athlon(TM) XP 2600+
stepping: 0
cpu MHz : 1916.547
cache size  : 512 KB

[EMAIL PROTECTED] proc]$ uname -a
Linux mydesk.domain.cxm 2.6.12-12mdk #1 Fri Sep 9 18:15:22 CEST 2005 i686 AMD 
Athlon(TM) XP 2600+ unknown GNU/Linux

[EMAIL PROTECTED] proc]$

So I officially withdraw my objections to qt. I've been using it the past 
several months, thinking it was Xforms, and liking it just fine.

Thanks for the tip!

SteveT

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Re: Serious performance problem with LyX 1.4.1 on OS X

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

> "Steve" == Steve Litt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Steve> So I officially withdraw my objections to qt. I've been using
Steve> it the past several months, thinking it was Xforms, and liking
Steve> it just fine.

:)

If you ever upgrade to 1.4, you will find that the display is
significantly slower with qt (for a reason we do not really
understand). The old xforms version is still ugly, but snappy.

JMarc

Re: Serious performance problem with LyX 1.4.1 on OS X

[Steve Litt]

On Monday 26 June 2006 05:52 pm, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> > "Steve" == Steve Litt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Steve> So I officially withdraw my objections to qt. I've been using
> Steve> it the past several months, thinking it was Xforms, and liking
> Steve> it just fine.
>
> :)
>
> If you ever upgrade to 1.4, you will find that the display is
> significantly slower with qt (for a reason we do not really
> understand). The old xforms version is still ugly, but snappy.

Do I need to recompile to switch to Xforms?

SteveT

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Serious performance problem with LyX 1.4.1 on OS X

[Yaron Y. Goland]

When I first installed LyX 1.4.0 on OS X I had such serious  
performance problems that even on my dual proc G5 with 1 gig of Ram I  
could trivially type faster than LyX could print out my characters.  
So when LyX 1.4.1 was released with a focus on performance I was very  
excited. Unfortunately LyX 1.4.1 is as slow for me as LyX 1.4.0 is.  
In fact even on simple documents containing little more than text  
(e.g. http://www.goland.org/webtemplate.lyx) just typing simple text  
is so slow that I can easily out type LyX.


Please note that I made sure to delete LyX 1.4.0 and do a new install  
of LyX 1.4.1 and then confirm that my newly installed program is  
indeed LyX 1.4.1


If anyone has any suggestions or ideas I would love to hear them  
because I depend on LyX for a book I'm writing and as things now  
stand I'm in trouble.


Thanks,

Yaron