KNFB reader

2014-09-26 Thread Judy Pryor
It seems the KNFB reader will not work on iPhone 4s any thoughts I do not want 
to buy another phone.  Judy
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Abbyy fine reader pro help please

2014-09-26 Thread Ian Harrison

I have just got the pro version of the above to help with my upcoming 
university studies and I am struggling to get started with it.

I have been searching for a tutorial without any real luck. Can anyone point me 
towards a written or audio guide for use with voice over or even just a 
straight quick start guide.

Thanks in advance
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Re: KNFB reader

2014-09-26 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Well someone did an audio boo regarding  knfb on the iphoen 4s.  It is not 
support but it does at least on their phone work, not that well. and besides 
the 4s is  probably 2 years out of date.  so getting a 5s at least is probably 
a good idea.

Take care.
On Sep 26, 2014, at 4:22 AM, Judy Pryor judith.pr...@btinternet.com wrote:

 It seems the KNFB reader will not work on iPhone 4s any thoughts I do not 
 want to buy another phone.  Judy
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Re: Read receipts in mail

2014-09-26 Thread Douglas
down fall for mac… i don’t remember what program it was on the … unmentionable 
system, but i was able to force readers into showing they opened them and 
acknowledged it..lol, time to get programming again lol
On Sep 25, 2014, at 10:44 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have no idea. but  her's the  snag of read receipts. the prof could open 
 the mail but weather they  actually read it won't show.  i should know. I 
 opened mail with read receipts but I jut closed and looked at them either 
 later, or never. 
 On Sep 25, 2014, at 8:59 PM, Douglas doug.c...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 crappy!!! i need to attach receipts to all my messages to the university 
 profs, because they have habits of not even acknowledging i sent them 
 anything lol… are there any alternative mail clients that are on the mac 
 that can do this? that are accessible with vo?
 On Sep 25, 2014, at 9:56 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 You cannot attach a read receipt in apple mail. this has gotten many 
 complaints on the apple forums but ther eyou go. 
 On Sep 25, 2014, at 6:27 AM, Douglas doug.c...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hey guys, i know this has problem been asked before, quite possibly by 
 even me, but. How do i attach a read receipt to an email  using Mail on 
 mac 10.9.4?
 thanks
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Re: Read receipts in mail

2014-09-26 Thread Sarah k Alawami
As stated I got around the read receipt for everybody else thinking i read the 
message by just opening the message and trashing it or responding it to it 
years later.  so really they are not reliable and are to me a form of 
unnecessary email.
On Sep 26, 2014, at 8:09 AM, Douglas doug.c...@gmail.com wrote:

 down fall for mac… i don’t remember what program it was on the … 
 unmentionable system, but i was able to force readers into showing they 
 opened them and acknowledged it..lol, time to get programming again lol
 On Sep 25, 2014, at 10:44 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have no idea. but  her's the  snag of read receipts. the prof could open 
 the mail but weather they  actually read it won't show.  i should know. I 
 opened mail with read receipts but I jut closed and looked at them either 
 later, or never. 
 On Sep 25, 2014, at 8:59 PM, Douglas doug.c...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 crappy!!! i need to attach receipts to all my messages to the university 
 profs, because they have habits of not even acknowledging i sent them 
 anything lol… are there any alternative mail clients that are on the mac 
 that can do this? that are accessible with vo?
 On Sep 25, 2014, at 9:56 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 You cannot attach a read receipt in apple mail. this has gotten many 
 complaints on the apple forums but ther eyou go. 
 On Sep 25, 2014, at 6:27 AM, Douglas doug.c...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hey guys, i know this has problem been asked before, quite possibly by 
 even me, but. How do i attach a read receipt to an email  using Mail on 
 mac 10.9.4?
 thanks
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Re: Abbyy fine reader pro help please

2014-09-26 Thread Bryan Jones
Hello Ian,

Here is the workflow I normally follow when using FineReader Pro (FRP) to 
convert existing PDF image files or other files I want to OCR. This is the 
quick method and basically involves opening the document in FRP, allowing the 
automatic recognition process to complete, and then exporting the resulting 
text to the desired file format. This quick process works fine for the vast 
majority of my OCR needs. Note that these instructions are for processing 
existing digital documents such as PDF files. I also use FRP to interface 
directly with my scanner for importing scanned paper documents, and I can write 
up a separate set of instructions for that process if you need them.

1. In the FInder, navigate to the file you wish to OCR.
2. Press VO+Shift+M to open the shortcut menu, and choose “Open with… 
FineReader Pro.
3. The file will open in FRP and FRP will automatically start the process of 
“Recognizing” the document. A dialog box provides status information on this 
process.
4. When the recognition process has completed, you might encounter a dialog box 
with a message or messages warning you of any problems encountered during the 
recognition process. Close the warning dialog when you’ve finished reading it.
5. Press Command+S to open the Export dialog.
6. Select the format you wish to export the document to, and adjust any 
associated options if desired, then click Next. This opens a standard OSX File 
Save As dialog where you will name the file, choose the location where you’d 
like it saved, and click the Export button to complete the process.

HTH,
Bryan

On Sep 26, 2014, at 7:32 AM, Ian Harrison 
harrisonc...@harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk wrote:
 I have just got the pro version of the above to help with my upcoming 
 university studies and I am struggling to get started with it.
 
 I have been searching for a tutorial without any real luck. Can anyone point 
 me towards a written or audio guide for use with voice over or even just a 
 straight quick start guide.

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Re: KNFB reader

2014-09-26 Thread Glenn
I think that the camera on the 4S is as good as on later phones.
Apple has stayed with 8MP cameras I believe.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 8:54 AM
Subject: Re: KNFB reader


Well someone did an audio boo regarding  knfb on the iphoen 4s.  It is not 
support but it does at least on their phone work, not that well. and besides 
the 4s is  probably 2 years out of date.  so getting a 5s at least is 
probably a good idea.

Take care.
On Sep 26, 2014, at 4:22 AM, Judy Pryor judith.pr...@btinternet.com wrote:

 It seems the KNFB reader will not work on iPhone 4s any thoughts I do not 
 want to buy another phone.  Judy
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Re: KNFB reader

2014-09-26 Thread Andy Collins
 It’s about the camera; they said you need a 5 and upwards for best results -

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Re: KNFB reader

2014-09-26 Thread Andy Collins
Not from what I’ve heard, the camera got upgraded with the 5 -

Andy
On 26 Sep 2014, at 17:28, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

 I think that the camera on the 4S is as good as on later phones.
 Apple has stayed with 8MP cameras I believe.
 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
 To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 8:54 AM
 Subject: Re: KNFB reader
 
 
 Well someone did an audio boo regarding  knfb on the iphoen 4s.  It is not 
 support but it does at least on their phone work, not that well. and besides 
 the 4s is  probably 2 years out of date.  so getting a 5s at least is 
 probably a good idea.
 
 Take care.
 On Sep 26, 2014, at 4:22 AM, Judy Pryor judith.pr...@btinternet.com wrote:
 
 It seems the KNFB reader will not work on iPhone 4s any thoughts I do not 
 want to buy another phone.  Judy
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Re: KNFB reader

2014-09-26 Thread Glenn
My 5 has an 8MP camera, as does the 4S.
I'm pretty sure that the 5S and 5Cs have an 8MP camera.
There may be other improvements to the cameras other than the megapixels, 
but phones are usually advertised with the megapixels.
Glenn
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Re: Abbyy fine reader pro help please

2014-09-26 Thread Leo Bissonnette
Hwllo Bryan,

I found this info very helpful, as I consider moving to FRP.

Would be interested in learning more about how you use FRP to interface 
directly with my scanner for importing scanned paper documents, 

Thanks in advance.

Leo




On Sep 26, 2014, at 12:21 PM, Bryan Jones openses...@me.com wrote:

 Hello Ian,
 
 Here is the workflow I normally follow when using FineReader Pro (FRP) to 
 convert existing PDF image files or other files I want to OCR. This is the 
 quick method and basically involves opening the document in FRP, allowing the 
 automatic recognition process to complete, and then exporting the resulting 
 text to the desired file format. This quick process works fine for the vast 
 majority of my OCR needs. Note that these instructions are for processing 
 existing digital documents such as PDF files. I also use FRP to interface 
 directly with my scanner for importing scanned paper documents, and I can 
 write up a separate set of instructions for that process if you need them.
 
 1. In the FInder, navigate to the file you wish to OCR.
 2. Press VO+Shift+M to open the shortcut menu, and choose “Open with… 
 FineReader Pro.
 3. The file will open in FRP and FRP will automatically start the process of 
 “Recognizing” the document. A dialog box provides status information on this 
 process.
 4. When the recognition process has completed, you might encounter a dialog 
 box with a message or messages warning you of any problems encountered during 
 the recognition process. Close the warning dialog when you’ve finished 
 reading it.
 5. Press Command+S to open the Export dialog.
 6. Select the format you wish to export the document to, and adjust any 
 associated options if desired, then click Next. This opens a standard OSX 
 File Save As dialog where you will name the file, choose the location where 
 you’d like it saved, and click the Export button to complete the process.
 
 HTH,
 Bryan
 
 On Sep 26, 2014, at 7:32 AM, Ian Harrison 
 harrisonc...@harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk wrote:
 I have just got the pro version of the above to help with my upcoming 
 university studies and I am struggling to get started with it.
 
 I have been searching for a tutorial without any real luck. Can anyone point 
 me towards a written or audio guide for use with voice over or even just a 
 straight quick start guide.
 
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Re: KNFB reader

2014-09-26 Thread Glenn
I'm not sure how it got upgraded then.
I still have my 4, and it has a 5MP camera, and they upgraded the 4S to an 
8MP.
My 5 has an 8MP.
So maybe there other enhancements that I'm not aware of, but they have not 
changed the megapixels.
Glenn
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To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 11:55 AM
Subject: Re: KNFB reader


Not from what I’ve heard, the camera got upgraded with the 5 -

Andy
On 26 Sep 2014, at 17:28, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

 I think that the camera on the 4S is as good as on later phones.
 Apple has stayed with 8MP cameras I believe.
 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
 To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 8:54 AM
 Subject: Re: KNFB reader


 Well someone did an audio boo regarding  knfb on the iphoen 4s.  It is not
 support but it does at least on their phone work, not that well. and 
 besides
 the 4s is  probably 2 years out of date.  so getting a 5s at least is
 probably a good idea.

 Take care.
 On Sep 26, 2014, at 4:22 AM, Judy Pryor judith.pr...@btinternet.com 
 wrote:

 It seems the KNFB reader will not work on iPhone 4s any thoughts I do not
 want to buy another phone.  Judy
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Re: KNFB reader

2014-09-26 Thread Glenn
Judy,
If you want the KNFB reader, and are willing to upgrade to use it, why not 
get it and install it on your iPhone 4S, and if it is not up to your liking, 
then upgrade.
I'm sure that you can do this, since I read where someone did that with an 
iPad.
Glenn
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To: mac-access access mac-access@mac-access.net
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Subject: KNFB reader


It seems the KNFB reader will not work on iPhone 4s any thoughts I do not 
want to buy another phone.  Judy
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Re: KNFB reader

2014-09-26 Thread Andy Collins
All I can say is what the makers of the app said about it, and that was you 
needed the 5 or above -

Andy
On 26 Sep 2014, at 17:58, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

 My 5 has an 8MP camera, as does the 4S.
 I'm pretty sure that the 5S and 5Cs have an 8MP camera.
 There may be other improvements to the cameras other than the megapixels, 
 but phones are usually advertised with the megapixels.
 Glenn
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 It’s about the camera; they said you need a 5 and upwards for best 
 results -
 
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Re: KNFB reader

2014-09-26 Thread Andy Collins
I haven’t heard the podcast for several weeks, but it’s explained in there if 
you want to listen -

Andy
On 26 Sep 2014, at 18:06, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

 I'm not sure how it got upgraded then.
 I still have my 4, and it has a 5MP camera, and they upgraded the 4S to an 
 8MP.
 My 5 has an 8MP.
 So maybe there other enhancements that I'm not aware of, but they have not 
 changed the megapixels.
 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 11:55 AM
 Subject: Re: KNFB reader
 
 
 Not from what I’ve heard, the camera got upgraded with the 5 -
 
 Andy
 On 26 Sep 2014, at 17:28, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:
 
 I think that the camera on the 4S is as good as on later phones.
 Apple has stayed with 8MP cameras I believe.
 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
 To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 8:54 AM
 Subject: Re: KNFB reader
 
 
 Well someone did an audio boo regarding  knfb on the iphoen 4s.  It is not
 support but it does at least on their phone work, not that well. and 
 besides
 the 4s is  probably 2 years out of date.  so getting a 5s at least is
 probably a good idea.
 
 Take care.
 On Sep 26, 2014, at 4:22 AM, Judy Pryor judith.pr...@btinternet.com 
 wrote:
 
 It seems the KNFB reader will not work on iPhone 4s any thoughts I do not
 want to buy another phone.  Judy
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Re: KNFB reader

2014-09-26 Thread eleanor martha burke
I do not get an option even to have it on my iPad mini.

Eleanor Martha Burke

 On 26 Sep 2014, at 18:21, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:
 
 Judy,
 If you want the KNFB reader, and are willing to upgrade to use it, why not 
 get it and install it on your iPhone 4S, and if it is not up to your liking, 
 then upgrade.
 I'm sure that you can do this, since I read where someone did that with an 
 iPad.
 Glenn
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 To: mac-access access mac-access@mac-access.net
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Re: KNFB reader

2014-09-26 Thread eleanor martha burke
people are certainly using it on the for S

Eleanor Martha Burke

 On 26 Sep 2014, at 17:55, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:
 
 Not from what I’ve heard, the camera got upgraded with the 5 -
 
 Andy
 On 26 Sep 2014, at 17:28, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:
 
 I think that the camera on the 4S is as good as on later phones.
 Apple has stayed with 8MP cameras I believe.
 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
 To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 8:54 AM
 Subject: Re: KNFB reader
 
 
 Well someone did an audio boo regarding  knfb on the iphoen 4s.  It is not 
 support but it does at least on their phone work, not that well. and besides 
 the 4s is  probably 2 years out of date.  so getting a 5s at least is 
 probably a good idea.
 
 Take care.
 On Sep 26, 2014, at 4:22 AM, Judy Pryor judith.pr...@btinternet.com wrote:
 
 It seems the KNFB reader will not work on iPhone 4s any thoughts I do not 
 want to buy another phone.  Judy
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Re: KNFB reader

2014-09-26 Thread eleanor martha burke
I tried it on an iPod touch fifth-generation and it worked all be it slowly.

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Re: KNFB reader

2014-09-26 Thread Glenn
You may be able to purchase it in the app store on your computer, and then 
sync it to your device.
Glenn
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To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: KNFB reader


I do not get an option even to have it on my iPad mini.

Eleanor Martha Burke

 On 26 Sep 2014, at 18:21, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

 Judy,
 If you want the KNFB reader, and are willing to upgrade to use it, why not
 get it and install it on your iPhone 4S, and if it is not up to your 
 liking,
 then upgrade.
 I'm sure that you can do this, since I read where someone did that with an
 iPad.
 Glenn
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 It seems the KNFB reader will not work on iPhone 4s any thoughts I do not
 want to buy another phone.  Judy
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Re: KNFB reader

2014-09-26 Thread eleanor martha burke
I have it on my iPhone.

Eleanor Martha Burke

 On 26 Sep 2014, at 20:01, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:
 
 You may be able to purchase it in the app store on your computer, and then 
 sync it to your device.
 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: eleanor martha burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 1:57 PM
 Subject: Re: KNFB reader
 
 
 I do not get an option even to have it on my iPad mini.
 
 Eleanor Martha Burke
 
 On 26 Sep 2014, at 18:21, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:
 
 Judy,
 If you want the KNFB reader, and are willing to upgrade to use it, why not
 get it and install it on your iPhone 4S, and if it is not up to your 
 liking,
 then upgrade.
 I'm sure that you can do this, since I read where someone did that with an
 iPad.
 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: Judy Pryor judith.pr...@btinternet.com
 To: mac-access access mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 6:22 AM
 Subject: KNFB reader
 
 
 It seems the KNFB reader will not work on iPhone 4s any thoughts I do not
 want to buy another phone.  Judy
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Re: KNFB reader

2014-09-26 Thread eleanor martha burke
you are right it is not designed for iPad.

Eleanor Martha Burke

 On 26 Sep 2014, at 17:24, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:
 
 Judy,
 It may soon.
 I thought I read somewhere that it will be released for more devices.
 I don't think it is marketed to work on an iPad, but someone put it on an 
 iPad.
 Glenn
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Re: KNFB reader

2014-09-26 Thread Glenn
How was the accuracy?
Glenn
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Subject: Re: KNFB reader


I tried it on an iPod touch fifth-generation and it worked all be it slowly.

Eleanor Martha Burke

On 26 Sep 2014, at 17:54, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:

 It’s about the camera; they said you need a 5 and upwards for best 
 results -

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Re: KNFB reader

2014-09-26 Thread Eleanor Martha Burke
Perfect but it was slow in trying to navagate the screen to the various 
buttons but once picture was taken and it started reading it was just fine. 
The other thing is that an iPod Touch and iPad or iPad Mini do not have 
vibration and there is a vibration setting on it to help with page 
alignment.  I do not like this vibration even when using it on the iPhone 
and have turned it off.
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Subject: Re: KNFB reader



How was the accuracy?
Glenn
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From: eleanor martha burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: KNFB reader


I tried it on an iPod touch fifth-generation and it worked all be it 
slowly.


Eleanor Martha Burke

On 26 Sep 2014, at 17:54, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:


It’s about the camera; they said you need a 5 and upwards for best
results -


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Re: KNFB reader

2014-09-26 Thread Glenn
I think you can sync the apps you have on your phone to your mini.
I did this when I had an iPod, that is, I had the apps on both my iPod and 
iPhone.
Glenn
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To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: KNFB reader


I have it on my iPhone.

Eleanor Martha Burke

 On 26 Sep 2014, at 20:01, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

 You may be able to purchase it in the app store on your computer, and then
 sync it to your device.
 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: eleanor martha burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 1:57 PM
 Subject: Re: KNFB reader


 I do not get an option even to have it on my iPad mini.

 Eleanor Martha Burke

 On 26 Sep 2014, at 18:21, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

 Judy,
 If you want the KNFB reader, and are willing to upgrade to use it, why 
 not
 get it and install it on your iPhone 4S, and if it is not up to your
 liking,
 then upgrade.
 I'm sure that you can do this, since I read where someone did that with 
 an
 iPad.
 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: Judy Pryor judith.pr...@btinternet.com
 To: mac-access access mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 6:22 AM
 Subject: KNFB reader


 It seems the KNFB reader will not work on iPhone 4s any thoughts I do not
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iPod Touch 5th Generation

2014-09-26 Thread Eleanor Martha Burke
Hi All, I have just restored my iPod Touch 5th generation in order to sell 
it.  I was in the Apple store and when no speech on it, I asked the man 
assisting me to turn on voice over.  He said he did but I said I could not 
hear it.  He went in again to General and Accessability and this time I 
could hear it.  I put the iPod Touch in my pocket and went home.  When I 
came home vo was not talking.  Any ideas how I put voice over on please and 
why would it have turned off like that.  I did the usual 2 finger tripple 
tap but that did nothing.


Eleanor 


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Re: KNFB reader

2014-09-26 Thread Eleanor Martha Burke
Well like Andy said they have not said it would work with an iPad or iPad 
Mini.  I just tried it on the iPod Touch as it was 5th generation but like I 
said it was doable but not sharp and snappy like on my iPhone.  At least I 
have it on my iPhone so no problems really.  Great app though and worth the 
money.
- Original Message - 
From: Glenn glenner...@cableone.net

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: KNFB reader



I think you can sync the apps you have on your phone to your mini.
I did this when I had an iPod, that is, I had the apps on both my iPod and
iPhone.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: eleanor martha burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: KNFB reader


I have it on my iPhone.

Eleanor Martha Burke


On 26 Sep 2014, at 20:01, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

You may be able to purchase it in the app store on your computer, and 
then

sync it to your device.
Glenn
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To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: KNFB reader


I do not get an option even to have it on my iPad mini.

Eleanor Martha Burke


On 26 Sep 2014, at 18:21, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

Judy,
If you want the KNFB reader, and are willing to upgrade to use it, why
not
get it and install it on your iPhone 4S, and if it is not up to your
liking,
then upgrade.
I'm sure that you can do this, since I read where someone did that with
an
iPad.
Glenn
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From: Judy Pryor judith.pr...@btinternet.com

To: mac-access access mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 6:22 AM
Subject: KNFB reader


It seems the KNFB reader will not work on iPhone 4s any thoughts I do 
not

want to buy another phone.  Judy
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Re: KNFB reader

2014-09-26 Thread Andy Collins
WELL, I’M HAPPY THAT PEOPLE GET THE RESULTS THEY DESIRE, I WAS JUST REPORTING 
WHAT THE PRODUCERS OF THE APP SAID -

ANDY
On 26 Sep 2014, at 20:00, eleanor martha burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 people are certainly using it on the for S
 
 Eleanor Martha Burke
 
 On 26 Sep 2014, at 17:55, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:
 
 Not from what I’ve heard, the camera got upgraded with the 5 -
 
 Andy
 On 26 Sep 2014, at 17:28, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:
 
 I think that the camera on the 4S is as good as on later phones.
 Apple has stayed with 8MP cameras I believe.
 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
 To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 8:54 AM
 Subject: Re: KNFB reader
 
 
 Well someone did an audio boo regarding  knfb on the iphoen 4s.  It is not 
 support but it does at least on their phone work, not that well. and 
 besides 
 the 4s is  probably 2 years out of date.  so getting a 5s at least is 
 probably a good idea.
 
 Take care.
 On Sep 26, 2014, at 4:22 AM, Judy Pryor judith.pr...@btinternet.com 
 wrote:
 
 It seems the KNFB reader will not work on iPhone 4s any thoughts I do not 
 want to buy another phone.  Judy
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Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation

2014-09-26 Thread barbara jones
Did you do a triple click with the home button to toggle it on or off? It’s a 3 
finger double tap to toggle speech on and off and one more thing, have you 
checked the volume? Sometimes for whatever reason the volume on mine gets 
turned down without me touching that button.
Barbara

On Sep 26, 2014, at 3:25 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi All, I have just restored my iPod Touch 5th generation in order to sell 
 it.  I was in the Apple store and when no speech on it, I asked the man 
 assisting me to turn on voice over.  He said he did but I said I could not 
 hear it.  He went in again to General and Accessability and this time I could 
 hear it.  I put the iPod Touch in my pocket and went home.  When I came home 
 vo was not talking.  Any ideas how I put voice over on please and why would 
 it have turned off like that.  I did the usual 2 finger tripple tap but that 
 did nothing.
 
 Eleanor 
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Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation

2014-09-26 Thread Matthew Carello
Hello Eleanor. It is a double three finger tap to turn speech back on. Not a 
two finger triple tap, grin.
On Sep 26, 2014, at 2:25 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi All, I have just restored my iPod Touch 5th generation in order to sell 
 it.  I was in the Apple store and when no speech on it, I asked the man 
 assisting me to turn on voice over.  He said he did but I said I could not 
 hear it.  He went in again to General and Accessability and this time I could 
 hear it.  I put the iPod Touch in my pocket and went home.  When I came home 
 vo was not talking.  Any ideas how I put voice over on please and why would 
 it have turned off like that.  I did the usual 2 finger tripple tap but that 
 did nothing.
 
 Eleanor 
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Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation

2014-09-26 Thread Eleanor Martha Burke

How do I do a tripple click without sighted assistance please?
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From: barbara jones jone...@comcast.net

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 8:53 PM
Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation


Did you do a triple click with the home button to toggle it on or off? It’s 
a 3 finger double tap to toggle speech on and off and one more thing, have 
you checked the volume? Sometimes for whatever reason the volume on mine 
gets turned down without me touching that button.

Barbara

On Sep 26, 2014, at 3:25 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi All, I have just restored my iPod Touch 5th generation in order to sell 
it.  I was in the Apple store and when no speech on it, I asked the man 
assisting me to turn on voice over.  He said he did but I said I could not 
hear it.  He went in again to General and Accessability and this time I 
could hear it.  I put the iPod Touch in my pocket and went home.  When I 
came home vo was not talking.  Any ideas how I put voice over on please 
and why would it have turned off like that.  I did the usual 2 finger 
tripple tap but that did nothing.


Eleanor
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Re: KNFB reader

2014-09-26 Thread Eleanor Martha Burke

Fair point Andy.
- Original Message - 
From: Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 8:50 PM
Subject: Re: KNFB reader


WELL, I’M HAPPY THAT PEOPLE GET THE RESULTS THEY DESIRE, I WAS JUST 
REPORTING WHAT THE PRODUCERS OF THE APP SAID -


ANDY
On 26 Sep 2014, at 20:00, eleanor martha burke 
eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:



people are certainly using it on the for S

Eleanor Martha Burke


On 26 Sep 2014, at 17:55, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:

Not from what I’ve heard, the camera got upgraded with the 5 -

Andy

On 26 Sep 2014, at 17:28, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

I think that the camera on the 4S is as good as on later phones.
Apple has stayed with 8MP cameras I believe.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com

To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 8:54 AM
Subject: Re: KNFB reader


Well someone did an audio boo regarding  knfb on the iphoen 4s.  It is 
not
support but it does at least on their phone work, not that well. and 
besides

the 4s is  probably 2 years out of date.  so getting a 5s at least is
probably a good idea.

Take care.
On Sep 26, 2014, at 4:22 AM, Judy Pryor judith.pr...@btinternet.com 
wrote:


It seems the KNFB reader will not work on iPhone 4s any thoughts I do 
not

want to buy another phone.  Judy
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Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation

2014-09-26 Thread Glenn
One thing I have found is that if you want the volume of VoiceOver to be 
turned up, it helps to be swiping left to right and then right to left, as 
to make VO speak, while at the same time you are pressing the volume up 
button.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: barbara jones jone...@comcast.net
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation


Did you do a triple click with the home button to toggle it on or off? It’s 
a 3 finger double tap to toggle speech on and off and one more thing, have 
you checked the volume? Sometimes for whatever reason the volume on mine 
gets turned down without me touching that button.
Barbara

On Sep 26, 2014, at 3:25 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi All, I have just restored my iPod Touch 5th generation in order to sell 
 it.  I was in the Apple store and when no speech on it, I asked the man 
 assisting me to turn on voice over.  He said he did but I said I could not 
 hear it.  He went in again to General and Accessability and this time I 
 could hear it.  I put the iPod Touch in my pocket and went home.  When I 
 came home vo was not talking.  Any ideas how I put voice over on please 
 and why would it have turned off like that.  I did the usual 2 finger 
 tripple tap but that did nothing.

 Eleanor
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Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation

2014-09-26 Thread Sarah k Alawami
tripple click the home button. Just press it 3 times. 

Take care.
On Sep 26, 2014, at 1:05 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:

 How do I do a tripple click without sighted assistance please?
 - Original Message - From: barbara jones jone...@comcast.net
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 8:53 PM
 Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation
 
 
 Did you do a triple click with the home button to toggle it on or off? It’s a 
 3 finger double tap to toggle speech on and off and one more thing, have you 
 checked the volume? Sometimes for whatever reason the volume on mine gets 
 turned down without me touching that button.
 Barbara
 
 On Sep 26, 2014, at 3:25 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi All, I have just restored my iPod Touch 5th generation in order to sell 
 it.  I was in the Apple store and when no speech on it, I asked the man 
 assisting me to turn on voice over.  He said he did but I said I could not 
 hear it.  He went in again to General and Accessability and this time I 
 could hear it.  I put the iPod Touch in my pocket and went home.  When I 
 came home vo was not talking.  Any ideas how I put voice over on please and 
 why would it have turned off like that.  I did the usual 2 finger tripple 
 tap but that did nothing.
 
 Eleanor
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Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation

2014-09-26 Thread Glenn
Eleanor,
You press the home button three times quickly.
A double-tap of three fingers only turns speech on and off, but does not 
disable VoiceOver.
So if you did the latter, a sighted person would still have trouble using it 
without knowing how to use VO.
Glenn
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From: Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation


How do I do a tripple click without sighted assistance please?
- Original Message - 
From: barbara jones jone...@comcast.net
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 8:53 PM
Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation


Did you do a triple click with the home button to toggle it on or off? It’s
a 3 finger double tap to toggle speech on and off and one more thing, have
you checked the volume? Sometimes for whatever reason the volume on mine
gets turned down without me touching that button.
Barbara

On Sep 26, 2014, at 3:25 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke
eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi All, I have just restored my iPod Touch 5th generation in order to sell
 it.  I was in the Apple store and when no speech on it, I asked the man
 assisting me to turn on voice over.  He said he did but I said I could not
 hear it.  He went in again to General and Accessability and this time I
 could hear it.  I put the iPod Touch in my pocket and went home.  When I
 came home vo was not talking.  Any ideas how I put voice over on please
 and why would it have turned off like that.  I did the usual 2 finger
 tripple tap but that did nothing.

 Eleanor
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Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation

2014-09-26 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Actually there's an easier way. simply do a 2 finger swipe up and let it start 
to read. then turn the volume up and down. 

Hth. 
On Sep 26, 2014, at 1:12 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

 One thing I have found is that if you want the volume of VoiceOver to be 
 turned up, it helps to be swiping left to right and then right to left, as 
 to make VO speak, while at the same time you are pressing the volume up 
 button.
 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: barbara jones jone...@comcast.net
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 2:53 PM
 Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation
 
 
 Did you do a triple click with the home button to toggle it on or off? It’s 
 a 3 finger double tap to toggle speech on and off and one more thing, have 
 you checked the volume? Sometimes for whatever reason the volume on mine 
 gets turned down without me touching that button.
 Barbara
 
 On Sep 26, 2014, at 3:25 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi All, I have just restored my iPod Touch 5th generation in order to sell 
 it.  I was in the Apple store and when no speech on it, I asked the man 
 assisting me to turn on voice over.  He said he did but I said I could not 
 hear it.  He went in again to General and Accessability and this time I 
 could hear it.  I put the iPod Touch in my pocket and went home.  When I 
 came home vo was not talking.  Any ideas how I put voice over on please 
 and why would it have turned off like that.  I did the usual 2 finger 
 tripple tap but that did nothing.
 
 Eleanor
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Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation

2014-09-26 Thread Eleanor Martha Burke
Well I thought one had to set up the tripple click from within 
accessability.
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From: Glenn glenner...@cableone.net

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation


One thing I have found is that if you want the volume of VoiceOver to be
turned up, it helps to be swiping left to right and then right to left, as
to make VO speak, while at the same time you are pressing the volume up
button.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: barbara jones jone...@comcast.net

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation


Did you do a triple click with the home button to toggle it on or off? It’s
a 3 finger double tap to toggle speech on and off and one more thing, have
you checked the volume? Sometimes for whatever reason the volume on mine
gets turned down without me touching that button.
Barbara

On Sep 26, 2014, at 3:25 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke
eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi All, I have just restored my iPod Touch 5th generation in order to sell
it.  I was in the Apple store and when no speech on it, I asked the man
assisting me to turn on voice over.  He said he did but I said I could not
hear it.  He went in again to General and Accessability and this time I
could hear it.  I put the iPod Touch in my pocket and went home.  When I
came home vo was not talking.  Any ideas how I put voice over on please
and why would it have turned off like that.  I did the usual 2 finger
tripple tap but that did nothing.

Eleanor
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Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation

2014-09-26 Thread Eleanor Martha Burke
Yes I understand that and it is set up on my iPhone but this iPod touch is 
now ready for use by someone else.
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From: Matthew Carello mcarell...@comcast.net

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 9:13 PM
Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation


your just pressing the home button three times in a row. This turns on and 
off VO as opposed to muting speech. When you turn off VO all Vo commands are 
off. Muting speech will still allow the commands to to work just no speech.
On Sep 26, 2014, at 3:05 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:



How do I do a tripple click without sighted assistance please?
- Original Message - From: barbara jones jone...@comcast.net
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 8:53 PM
Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation


Did you do a triple click with the home button to toggle it on or off? It’s 
a 3 finger double tap to toggle speech on and off and one more thing, have 
you checked the volume? Sometimes for whatever reason the volume on mine 
gets turned down without me touching that button.

Barbara

On Sep 26, 2014, at 3:25 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi All, I have just restored my iPod Touch 5th generation in order to 
sell it.  I was in the Apple store and when no speech on it, I asked the 
man assisting me to turn on voice over.  He said he did but I said I 
could not hear it.  He went in again to General and Accessability and 
this time I could hear it.  I put the iPod Touch in my pocket and went 
home.  When I came home vo was not talking.  Any ideas how I put voice 
over on please and why would it have turned off like that.  I did the 
usual 2 finger tripple tap but that did nothing.


Eleanor
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Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation

2014-09-26 Thread Eleanor Martha Burke
Now guys in my case I am familiar with vo and tripple clicks etc, my problem 
is that I got the iPod Touch restored to factory settings in the store.  Now 
I do not have sighted assistance.  If I did, I would know eactly as to how 
to instruct the person myself.  What I am looking from here is if you guys 
can give me a way without the sighted assistance of getting the vo going.
- Original Message - 
From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com

To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation


Actually there's an easier way. simply do a 2 finger swipe up and let it 
start to read. then turn the volume up and down.


Hth.
On Sep 26, 2014, at 1:12 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:


One thing I have found is that if you want the volume of VoiceOver to be
turned up, it helps to be swiping left to right and then right to left, as
to make VO speak, while at the same time you are pressing the volume up
button.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: barbara jones jone...@comcast.net

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation


Did you do a triple click with the home button to toggle it on or off? It’s
a 3 finger double tap to toggle speech on and off and one more thing, have
you checked the volume? Sometimes for whatever reason the volume on mine
gets turned down without me touching that button.
Barbara

On Sep 26, 2014, at 3:25 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke
eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi All, I have just restored my iPod Touch 5th generation in order to 
sell

it.  I was in the Apple store and when no speech on it, I asked the man
assisting me to turn on voice over.  He said he did but I said I could 
not

hear it.  He went in again to General and Accessability and this time I
could hear it.  I put the iPod Touch in my pocket and went home.  When I
came home vo was not talking.  Any ideas how I put voice over on please
and why would it have turned off like that.  I did the usual 2 finger
tripple tap but that did nothing.

Eleanor
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Re: iphone question.

2014-09-26 Thread Diane Bomar
It depends on what you want to use the 4s to do. For example, I would advise 
anyone with a 4s NOT to upgrade it to the latest OS that supports it, namely, 
IOS8. Expect the phone to be sluggish, and even freeze up on occasion. You will 
not be able to use many new apps, as the 5s and after have 64 bit processors 
and apps will be written to utilize this more powerful processor. The 4s can be 
used as a phone and ereader, if you want that capability. Personally, I would 
not get anything below a 5s, at this point. I have just replacd my 30 month old 
4s with an iPhone 6 with 128 GB. The 4s has 64gb and has been filled to 
capacity multiple times.Definitely do not get a 4s with only 8GB! 

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 22, 2014, at 8:52 PM, michael's mail boxl 
michaelandjea...@aapt.net.au wrote:

Hi Glen I have not felt the size of each yet.
I guess it depends on what we want the phone for.
I just thought for the money the 4s would be good I don't want just the 4 model.
The thing with Apple if you want the latest and greatest it will cost every 
year they reliese a new model.
I still useing my old 3GS witch has been a good reliable phone and still is 
like new.
I will not be buying every time Apple bring out a new model.
cheers Michael.

-Original Message- From: Glenn
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 10:06 AM
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: iphone question.

I have a 5, and may give my 5 to my son and get a 4S.
The phones keep getting bigger, and I think the 5 is too big, and the 4S is
just right.
Glenn
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michaelandjea...@aapt.net.au
To: mac help list mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 6:53 AM
Subject: iphone question.


Hi guys I was wondering if many folks are still useing iphone 4s.
Are they a good phone still and what is the latest IOS it can run easy.
I am thinking of buying an 4S or a 5.
What are your feelings about them 2 models.
Cheers michael.
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Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation

2014-09-26 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Tell siri to enable voice over.  this is new since I believe ios7 or is it 6?

Take care. 
On Sep 26, 2014, at 1:35 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Now guys in my case I am familiar with vo and tripple clicks etc, my problem 
 is that I got the iPod Touch restored to factory settings in the store.  Now 
 I do not have sighted assistance.  If I did, I would know eactly as to how to 
 instruct the person myself.  What I am looking from here is if you guys can 
 give me a way without the sighted assistance of getting the vo going.
 - Original Message - From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
 To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 9:25 PM
 Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation
 
 
 Actually there's an easier way. simply do a 2 finger swipe up and let it 
 start to read. then turn the volume up and down.
 
 Hth.
 On Sep 26, 2014, at 1:12 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:
 
 One thing I have found is that if you want the volume of VoiceOver to be
 turned up, it helps to be swiping left to right and then right to left, as
 to make VO speak, while at the same time you are pressing the volume up
 button.
 Glenn
 - Original Message - From: barbara jones jone...@comcast.net
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 2:53 PM
 Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation
 
 
 Did you do a triple click with the home button to toggle it on or off? It’s
 a 3 finger double tap to toggle speech on and off and one more thing, have
 you checked the volume? Sometimes for whatever reason the volume on mine
 gets turned down without me touching that button.
 Barbara
 
 On Sep 26, 2014, at 3:25 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke
 eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi All, I have just restored my iPod Touch 5th generation in order to sell
 it.  I was in the Apple store and when no speech on it, I asked the man
 assisting me to turn on voice over.  He said he did but I said I could not
 hear it.  He went in again to General and Accessability and this time I
 could hear it.  I put the iPod Touch in my pocket and went home.  When I
 came home vo was not talking.  Any ideas how I put voice over on please
 and why would it have turned off like that.  I did the usual 2 finger
 tripple tap but that did nothing.
 
 Eleanor
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How to download a previously purchased iPhone App

2014-09-26 Thread Paul Hopewell
Hello, 
I am trying to download an iPhone App which I had purchased some time ago and 
subsequently deleted from itunes. I have now moved to IOS 8 where this App will 
now work again but cannot download it. 

If I go to the itunes App store the download button for the App is dimmed. If I 
go to the purchased tab in iTunes I can see the App but there is no button to 
re-download it. 

I recall that there is a keystroke which will undim a dimed control, which 
would then let me redo the download. 

Any ideas would be appreciated. 
Many thanks. 

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Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation

2014-09-26 Thread Andy Collins
SHE WON’T BE ABLE TO AS SHE WON’T HAVE wi-fi sET UP HAVING REVERTED TO FACTORY 
SETTINGS -

ANDY
On 26 Sep 2014, at 21:43, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 Tell siri to enable voice over.  this is new since I believe ios7 or is it 6?
 
 Take care. 
 On Sep 26, 2014, at 1:35 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Now guys in my case I am familiar with vo and tripple clicks etc, my problem 
 is that I got the iPod Touch restored to factory settings in the store.  Now 
 I do not have sighted assistance.  If I did, I would know eactly as to how 
 to instruct the person myself.  What I am looking from here is if you guys 
 can give me a way without the sighted assistance of getting the vo going.
 - Original Message - From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
 To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 9:25 PM
 Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation
 
 
 Actually there's an easier way. simply do a 2 finger swipe up and let it 
 start to read. then turn the volume up and down.
 
 Hth.
 On Sep 26, 2014, at 1:12 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:
 
 One thing I have found is that if you want the volume of VoiceOver to be
 turned up, it helps to be swiping left to right and then right to left, as
 to make VO speak, while at the same time you are pressing the volume up
 button.
 Glenn
 - Original Message - From: barbara jones jone...@comcast.net
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 2:53 PM
 Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation
 
 
 Did you do a triple click with the home button to toggle it on or off? It’s
 a 3 finger double tap to toggle speech on and off and one more thing, have
 you checked the volume? Sometimes for whatever reason the volume on mine
 gets turned down without me touching that button.
 Barbara
 
 On Sep 26, 2014, at 3:25 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke
 eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi All, I have just restored my iPod Touch 5th generation in order to sell
 it.  I was in the Apple store and when no speech on it, I asked the man
 assisting me to turn on voice over.  He said he did but I said I could not
 hear it.  He went in again to General and Accessability and this time I
 could hear it.  I put the iPod Touch in my pocket and went home.  When I
 came home vo was not talking.  Any ideas how I put voice over on please
 and why would it have turned off like that.  I did the usual 2 finger
 tripple tap but that did nothing.
 
 Eleanor
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Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation

2014-09-26 Thread Aleeha Dudley
You can do one of three things.
All of these do not require sighted assistance. I will list them in the order 
of the ease in which to accomplish them.
First: press the home button three times rapidly. This does not require cited 
assistance, and should turn voiceover on. This is set by default, I believe, in 
the majority of newdevices.
Second: if Siri is enabled, and you have Wi-Fi, you can tell Siri to do it. A 
good way to check and see if you have Siri is to press and hold the home 
button. If it says that Siri is not available because you are not connected to 
the Internet, then try step three. You will not be able to get Internet without 
voiceover.
Third: connect your iPod to a computer. Do not allow it to sink, but you can 
then choose a voiceover in the configure accessibility dialogue.

Aleeha Dudley and seeing eye dog Dallas 
Vice President, Ohio Association of blind students
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proverb 
 
Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 26, 2014, at 4:35 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Now guys in my case I am familiar with vo and tripple clicks etc, my problem 
 is that I got the iPod Touch restored to factory settings in the store.  Now 
 I do not have sighted assistance.  If I did, I would know eactly as to how to 
 instruct the person myself.  What I am looking from here is if you guys can 
 give me a way without the sighted assistance of getting the vo going.
 - Original Message - From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
 To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 9:25 PM
 Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation
 
 
 Actually there's an easier way. simply do a 2 finger swipe up and let it 
 start to read. then turn the volume up and down.
 
 Hth.
 On Sep 26, 2014, at 1:12 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:
 
 One thing I have found is that if you want the volume of VoiceOver to be
 turned up, it helps to be swiping left to right and then right to left, as
 to make VO speak, while at the same time you are pressing the volume up
 button.
 Glenn
 - Original Message - From: barbara jones jone...@comcast.net
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 2:53 PM
 Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation
 
 
 Did you do a triple click with the home button to toggle it on or off? It’s
 a 3 finger double tap to toggle speech on and off and one more thing, have
 you checked the volume? Sometimes for whatever reason the volume on mine
 gets turned down without me touching that button.
 Barbara
 
 On Sep 26, 2014, at 3:25 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke
 eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi All, I have just restored my iPod Touch 5th generation in order to sell
 it.  I was in the Apple store and when no speech on it, I asked the man
 assisting me to turn on voice over.  He said he did but I said I could not
 hear it.  He went in again to General and Accessability and this time I
 could hear it.  I put the iPod Touch in my pocket and went home.  When I
 came home vo was not talking.  Any ideas how I put voice over on please
 and why would it have turned off like that.  I did the usual 2 finger
 tripple tap but that did nothing.
 
 Eleanor
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Re: iphone question.

2014-09-26 Thread Glenn
Not really that price.
When you pay that price, you are stuck in an expensive contract, and hence 
paying a lot for the phone.
I recommend buying one either used, or an older one that Apple still sells, 
and take it in to the phone store to activate, or use it without a phone 
number.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: Diane Bomar bomon...@earthlink.net
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: iphone question.


Upgrading every time there is a new model and staying 4 generations behind 
are not the only alternatives. How about purchasing a phone that Apple still 
sells, and will readily accommodate the latest OS and planning to keep it 
for several years In that way, you will not always be so far behind the 
capabilities. If you only want a basic phone, that will support reading 
ebooks and music, then there are several free phones out there. Even a basic 
5s with 16GB and a two-year contract is $99!

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 22, 2014, at 8:52 PM, michael's mail boxl 
michaelandjea...@aapt.net.au wrote:

Hi Glen I have not felt the size of each yet.
I guess it depends on what we want the phone for.
I just thought for the money the 4s would be good I don't want just the 4 
model.
The thing with Apple if you want the latest and greatest it will cost every 
year they reliese a new model.
I still useing my old 3GS witch has been a good reliable phone and still is 
like new.
I will not be buying every time Apple bring out a new model.
cheers Michael.

-Original Message- From: Glenn
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 10:06 AM
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: iphone question.

I have a 5, and may give my 5 to my son and get a 4S.
The phones keep getting bigger, and I think the 5 is too big, and the 4S is
just right.
Glenn
- Original Message - From: michael's mail box 
michaelandjea...@aapt.net.au
To: mac help list mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 6:53 AM
Subject: iphone question.


Hi guys I was wondering if many folks are still useing iphone 4s.
Are they a good phone still and what is the latest IOS it can run easy.
I am thinking of buying an 4S or a 5.
What are your feelings about them 2 models.
Cheers michael.
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Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation

2014-09-26 Thread Glenn
Good point, but I think that on version 7, you can triple-click the home key 
on a newly restored phone and make VO start talking.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation


SHE WON’T BE ABLE TO AS SHE WON’T HAVE wi-fi sET UP HAVING REVERTED TO 
FACTORY SETTINGS -

ANDY
On 26 Sep 2014, at 21:43, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 Tell siri to enable voice over.  this is new since I believe ios7 or is it 
 6?

 Take care.
 On Sep 26, 2014, at 1:35 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Now guys in my case I am familiar with vo and tripple clicks etc, my 
 problem is that I got the iPod Touch restored to factory settings in the 
 store.  Now I do not have sighted assistance.  If I did, I would know 
 eactly as to how to instruct the person myself.  What I am looking from 
 here is if you guys can give me a way without the sighted assistance of 
 getting the vo going.
 - Original Message - From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
 To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 9:25 PM
 Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation


 Actually there's an easier way. simply do a 2 finger swipe up and let it 
 start to read. then turn the volume up and down.

 Hth.
 On Sep 26, 2014, at 1:12 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

 One thing I have found is that if you want the volume of VoiceOver to be
 turned up, it helps to be swiping left to right and then right to left, 
 as
 to make VO speak, while at the same time you are pressing the volume up
 button.
 Glenn
 - Original Message - From: barbara jones jone...@comcast.net
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 2:53 PM
 Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation


 Did you do a triple click with the home button to toggle it on or off? 
 It’s
 a 3 finger double tap to toggle speech on and off and one more thing, 
 have
 you checked the volume? Sometimes for whatever reason the volume on mine
 gets turned down without me touching that button.
 Barbara

 On Sep 26, 2014, at 3:25 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke
 eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi All, I have just restored my iPod Touch 5th generation in order to 
 sell
 it.  I was in the Apple store and when no speech on it, I asked the man
 assisting me to turn on voice over.  He said he did but I said I could 
 not
 hear it.  He went in again to General and Accessability and this time I
 could hear it.  I put the iPod Touch in my pocket and went home.  When 
 I
 came home vo was not talking.  Any ideas how I put voice over on please
 and why would it have turned off like that.  I did the usual 2 finger
 tripple tap but that did nothing.

 Eleanor
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Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation

2014-09-26 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Not all the time.  Iv'e used phones where that was disabled by the place where 
the phone was baught. so it is very much a good idea to use siri.

Take care. 
On Sep 26, 2014, at 1:59 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

 Good point, but I think that on version 7, you can triple-click the home key 
 on a newly restored phone and make VO start talking.
 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 3:47 PM
 Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation
 
 
 SHE WON’T BE ABLE TO AS SHE WON’T HAVE wi-fi sET UP HAVING REVERTED TO 
 FACTORY SETTINGS -
 
 ANDY
 On 26 Sep 2014, at 21:43, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Tell siri to enable voice over.  this is new since I believe ios7 or is it 
 6?
 
 Take care.
 On Sep 26, 2014, at 1:35 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Now guys in my case I am familiar with vo and tripple clicks etc, my 
 problem is that I got the iPod Touch restored to factory settings in the 
 store.  Now I do not have sighted assistance.  If I did, I would know 
 eactly as to how to instruct the person myself.  What I am looking from 
 here is if you guys can give me a way without the sighted assistance of 
 getting the vo going.
 - Original Message - From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
 To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 9:25 PM
 Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation
 
 
 Actually there's an easier way. simply do a 2 finger swipe up and let it 
 start to read. then turn the volume up and down.
 
 Hth.
 On Sep 26, 2014, at 1:12 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:
 
 One thing I have found is that if you want the volume of VoiceOver to be
 turned up, it helps to be swiping left to right and then right to left, 
 as
 to make VO speak, while at the same time you are pressing the volume up
 button.
 Glenn
 - Original Message - From: barbara jones jone...@comcast.net
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 2:53 PM
 Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation
 
 
 Did you do a triple click with the home button to toggle it on or off? 
 It’s
 a 3 finger double tap to toggle speech on and off and one more thing, 
 have
 you checked the volume? Sometimes for whatever reason the volume on mine
 gets turned down without me touching that button.
 Barbara
 
 On Sep 26, 2014, at 3:25 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke
 eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi All, I have just restored my iPod Touch 5th generation in order to 
 sell
 it.  I was in the Apple store and when no speech on it, I asked the man
 assisting me to turn on voice over.  He said he did but I said I could 
 not
 hear it.  He went in again to General and Accessability and this time I
 could hear it.  I put the iPod Touch in my pocket and went home.  When 
 I
 came home vo was not talking.  Any ideas how I put voice over on please
 and why would it have turned off like that.  I did the usual 2 finger
 tripple tap but that did nothing.
 
 Eleanor
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Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation

2014-09-26 Thread Eleanor Martha Burke

Oh right that is an idea thanks.
- Original Message - 
From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com

To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 10:16 PM
Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation


Not all the time.  Iv'e used phones where that was disabled by the place 
where the phone was baught. so it is very much a good idea to use siri.


Take care.
On Sep 26, 2014, at 1:59 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

Good point, but I think that on version 7, you can triple-click the home 
key

on a newly restored phone and make VO start talking.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation


SHE WON’T BE ABLE TO AS SHE WON’T HAVE wi-fi sET UP HAVING REVERTED TO
FACTORY SETTINGS -

ANDY
On 26 Sep 2014, at 21:43, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

Tell siri to enable voice over.  this is new since I believe ios7 or is 
it

6?

Take care.
On Sep 26, 2014, at 1:35 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke
eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:


Now guys in my case I am familiar with vo and tripple clicks etc, my
problem is that I got the iPod Touch restored to factory settings in the
store.  Now I do not have sighted assistance.  If I did, I would know
eactly as to how to instruct the person myself.  What I am looking from
here is if you guys can give me a way without the sighted assistance of
getting the vo going.
- Original Message - From: Sarah k Alawami 
marri...@gmail.com

To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation


Actually there's an easier way. simply do a 2 finger swipe up and let it
start to read. then turn the volume up and down.

Hth.
On Sep 26, 2014, at 1:12 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

One thing I have found is that if you want the volume of VoiceOver to 
be

turned up, it helps to be swiping left to right and then right to left,
as
to make VO speak, while at the same time you are pressing the volume up
button.
Glenn
- Original Message - From: barbara jones 
jone...@comcast.net

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation


Did you do a triple click with the home button to toggle it on or off?
It’s
a 3 finger double tap to toggle speech on and off and one more thing,
have
you checked the volume? Sometimes for whatever reason the volume on 
mine

gets turned down without me touching that button.
Barbara

On Sep 26, 2014, at 3:25 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke
eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi All, I have just restored my iPod Touch 5th generation in order to
sell
it.  I was in the Apple store and when no speech on it, I asked the 
man

assisting me to turn on voice over.  He said he did but I said I could
not
hear it.  He went in again to General and Accessability and this time 
I

could hear it.  I put the iPod Touch in my pocket and went home.  When
I
came home vo was not talking.  Any ideas how I put voice over on 
please

and why would it have turned off like that.  I did the usual 2 finger
tripple tap but that did nothing.

Eleanor
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Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation

2014-09-26 Thread Eleanor Martha Burke

Can't and it is the iOS8
- Original Message - 
From: Glenn glenner...@cableone.net

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation


Good point, but I think that on version 7, you can triple-click the home key
on a newly restored phone and make VO start talking.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation


SHE WON’T BE ABLE TO AS SHE WON’T HAVE wi-fi sET UP HAVING REVERTED TO
FACTORY SETTINGS -

ANDY
On 26 Sep 2014, at 21:43, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:


Tell siri to enable voice over.  this is new since I believe ios7 or is it
6?

Take care.
On Sep 26, 2014, at 1:35 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke
eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:


Now guys in my case I am familiar with vo and tripple clicks etc, my
problem is that I got the iPod Touch restored to factory settings in the
store.  Now I do not have sighted assistance.  If I did, I would know
eactly as to how to instruct the person myself.  What I am looking from
here is if you guys can give me a way without the sighted assistance of
getting the vo going.
- Original Message - From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation


Actually there's an easier way. simply do a 2 finger swipe up and let it
start to read. then turn the volume up and down.

Hth.
On Sep 26, 2014, at 1:12 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:


One thing I have found is that if you want the volume of VoiceOver to be
turned up, it helps to be swiping left to right and then right to left,
as
to make VO speak, while at the same time you are pressing the volume up
button.
Glenn
- Original Message - From: barbara jones jone...@comcast.net
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation


Did you do a triple click with the home button to toggle it on or off?
It’s
a 3 finger double tap to toggle speech on and off and one more thing,
have
you checked the volume? Sometimes for whatever reason the volume on mine
gets turned down without me touching that button.
Barbara

On Sep 26, 2014, at 3:25 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke
eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi All, I have just restored my iPod Touch 5th generation in order to
sell
it.  I was in the Apple store and when no speech on it, I asked the man
assisting me to turn on voice over.  He said he did but I said I could
not
hear it.  He went in again to General and Accessability and this time I
could hear it.  I put the iPod Touch in my pocket and went home.  When
I
came home vo was not talking.  Any ideas how I put voice over on please
and why would it have turned off like that.  I did the usual 2 finger
tripple tap but that did nothing.

Eleanor
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Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation

2014-09-26 Thread Glenn
If SIRI will work without WIFI.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation


Oh right that is an idea thanks.
- Original Message - 
From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 10:16 PM
Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation


Not all the time.  Iv'e used phones where that was disabled by the place
where the phone was baught. so it is very much a good idea to use siri.

Take care.
On Sep 26, 2014, at 1:59 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

 Good point, but I think that on version 7, you can triple-click the home
 key
 on a newly restored phone and make VO start talking.
 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 3:47 PM
 Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation


 SHE WON’T BE ABLE TO AS SHE WON’T HAVE wi-fi sET UP HAVING REVERTED TO
 FACTORY SETTINGS -

 ANDY
 On 26 Sep 2014, at 21:43, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 Tell siri to enable voice over.  this is new since I believe ios7 or is
 it
 6?

 Take care.
 On Sep 26, 2014, at 1:35 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke
 eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Now guys in my case I am familiar with vo and tripple clicks etc, my
 problem is that I got the iPod Touch restored to factory settings in the
 store.  Now I do not have sighted assistance.  If I did, I would know
 eactly as to how to instruct the person myself.  What I am looking from
 here is if you guys can give me a way without the sighted assistance of
 getting the vo going.
 - Original Message - From: Sarah k Alawami
 marri...@gmail.com
 To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 9:25 PM
 Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation


 Actually there's an easier way. simply do a 2 finger swipe up and let it
 start to read. then turn the volume up and down.

 Hth.
 On Sep 26, 2014, at 1:12 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

 One thing I have found is that if you want the volume of VoiceOver to
 be
 turned up, it helps to be swiping left to right and then right to left,
 as
 to make VO speak, while at the same time you are pressing the volume up
 button.
 Glenn
 - Original Message - From: barbara jones
 jone...@comcast.net
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 2:53 PM
 Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation


 Did you do a triple click with the home button to toggle it on or off?
 It’s
 a 3 finger double tap to toggle speech on and off and one more thing,
 have
 you checked the volume? Sometimes for whatever reason the volume on
 mine
 gets turned down without me touching that button.
 Barbara

 On Sep 26, 2014, at 3:25 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke
 eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi All, I have just restored my iPod Touch 5th generation in order to
 sell
 it.  I was in the Apple store and when no speech on it, I asked the
 man
 assisting me to turn on voice over.  He said he did but I said I could
 not
 hear it.  He went in again to General and Accessability and this time
 I
 could hear it.  I put the iPod Touch in my pocket and went home.  When
 I
 came home vo was not talking.  Any ideas how I put voice over on
 please
 and why would it have turned off like that.  I did the usual 2 finger
 tripple tap but that did nothing.

 Eleanor
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Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation

2014-09-26 Thread Eleanor Martha Burke

Exactly Andy but I will get there somehow.

Eleanor
- Original Message - 
From: Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation


SHE WON’T BE ABLE TO AS SHE WON’T HAVE wi-fi sET UP HAVING REVERTED TO 
FACTORY SETTINGS -


ANDY
On 26 Sep 2014, at 21:43, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

Tell siri to enable voice over.  this is new since I believe ios7 or is it 
6?


Take care.
On Sep 26, 2014, at 1:35 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:


Now guys in my case I am familiar with vo and tripple clicks etc, my 
problem is that I got the iPod Touch restored to factory settings in the 
store.  Now I do not have sighted assistance.  If I did, I would know 
eactly as to how to instruct the person myself.  What I am looking from 
here is if you guys can give me a way without the sighted assistance of 
getting the vo going.

- Original Message - From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation


Actually there's an easier way. simply do a 2 finger swipe up and let it 
start to read. then turn the volume up and down.


Hth.
On Sep 26, 2014, at 1:12 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:


One thing I have found is that if you want the volume of VoiceOver to be
turned up, it helps to be swiping left to right and then right to left, 
as

to make VO speak, while at the same time you are pressing the volume up
button.
Glenn
- Original Message - From: barbara jones jone...@comcast.net
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation


Did you do a triple click with the home button to toggle it on or off? 
It’s
a 3 finger double tap to toggle speech on and off and one more thing, 
have

you checked the volume? Sometimes for whatever reason the volume on mine
gets turned down without me touching that button.
Barbara

On Sep 26, 2014, at 3:25 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke
eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi All, I have just restored my iPod Touch 5th generation in order to 
sell

it.  I was in the Apple store and when no speech on it, I asked the man
assisting me to turn on voice over.  He said he did but I said I could 
not

hear it.  He went in again to General and Accessability and this time I
could hear it.  I put the iPod Touch in my pocket and went home.  When 
I

came home vo was not talking.  Any ideas how I put voice over on please
and why would it have turned off like that.  I did the usual 2 finger
tripple tap but that did nothing.

Eleanor
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Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation

2014-09-26 Thread Glenn
You might be turning it on and off if the volume is too low.
You should do a triple-click of the home key, and do the two-finger flick 
up, and start voluming up.
Then repeat that once more, to make sure you are voluming up VO.
That is the only way to know, to do it twice.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation


Can't and it is the iOS8
- Original Message - 
From: Glenn glenner...@cableone.net
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation


Good point, but I think that on version 7, you can triple-click the home key
on a newly restored phone and make VO start talking.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation


SHE WON’T BE ABLE TO AS SHE WON’T HAVE wi-fi sET UP HAVING REVERTED TO
FACTORY SETTINGS -

ANDY
On 26 Sep 2014, at 21:43, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 Tell siri to enable voice over.  this is new since I believe ios7 or is it
 6?

 Take care.
 On Sep 26, 2014, at 1:35 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke
 eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Now guys in my case I am familiar with vo and tripple clicks etc, my
 problem is that I got the iPod Touch restored to factory settings in the
 store.  Now I do not have sighted assistance.  If I did, I would know
 eactly as to how to instruct the person myself.  What I am looking from
 here is if you guys can give me a way without the sighted assistance of
 getting the vo going.
 - Original Message - From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
 To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 9:25 PM
 Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation


 Actually there's an easier way. simply do a 2 finger swipe up and let it
 start to read. then turn the volume up and down.

 Hth.
 On Sep 26, 2014, at 1:12 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

 One thing I have found is that if you want the volume of VoiceOver to be
 turned up, it helps to be swiping left to right and then right to left,
 as
 to make VO speak, while at the same time you are pressing the volume up
 button.
 Glenn
 - Original Message - From: barbara jones jone...@comcast.net
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 2:53 PM
 Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation


 Did you do a triple click with the home button to toggle it on or off?
 It’s
 a 3 finger double tap to toggle speech on and off and one more thing,
 have
 you checked the volume? Sometimes for whatever reason the volume on mine
 gets turned down without me touching that button.
 Barbara

 On Sep 26, 2014, at 3:25 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke
 eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi All, I have just restored my iPod Touch 5th generation in order to
 sell
 it.  I was in the Apple store and when no speech on it, I asked the man
 assisting me to turn on voice over.  He said he did but I said I could
 not
 hear it.  He went in again to General and Accessability and this time I
 could hear it.  I put the iPod Touch in my pocket and went home.  When
 I
 came home vo was not talking.  Any ideas how I put voice over on please
 and why would it have turned off like that.  I did the usual 2 finger
 tripple tap but that did nothing.

 Eleanor
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Re: iphone question.

2014-09-26 Thread Diane Bomar
Before making any assumptions about the cost of a contract, it is besst to find 
out how much  you will have to pay with or without a contract. In recent 
months, they seem to be remarkably the same, and significantly less than they 
were a year ago. That would depend on the provider you choose, which depends on 
the country in which you live. If used as a with cellular data, there is going 
to be a monthly charge in addition to the cost of the phone, no matter how the 
phone is purchased. In my case, I pay the same now, under contract, as I paid 
before the contract, and it is $50 less than I was paying a year ago  It is 
important not to make assumptions, based on the past, without researching what 
is presently available. 
IMHO,

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 26, 2014, at 2:58 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

Not really that price.
When you pay that price, you are stuck in an expensive contract, and hence 
paying a lot for the phone.
I recommend buying one either used, or an older one that Apple still sells, 
and take it in to the phone store to activate, or use it without a phone 
number.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: Diane Bomar bomon...@earthlink.net
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: iphone question.


Upgrading every time there is a new model and staying 4 generations behind 
are not the only alternatives. How about purchasing a phone that Apple still 
sells, and will readily accommodate the latest OS and planning to keep it 
for several years In that way, you will not always be so far behind the 
capabilities. If you only want a basic phone, that will support reading 
ebooks and music, then there are several free phones out there. Even a basic 
5s with 16GB and a two-year contract is $99!

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 22, 2014, at 8:52 PM, michael's mail boxl 
michaelandjea...@aapt.net.au wrote:

Hi Glen I have not felt the size of each yet.
I guess it depends on what we want the phone for.
I just thought for the money the 4s would be good I don't want just the 4 
model.
The thing with Apple if you want the latest and greatest it will cost every 
year they reliese a new model.
I still useing my old 3GS witch has been a good reliable phone and still is 
like new.
I will not be buying every time Apple bring out a new model.
cheers Michael.

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Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 10:06 AM
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Re: iphone question.

2014-09-26 Thread Glenn
Yes, but one can get significantly less expensive service from a 
non-contract company than with one.
In fact, Selectel has a 15 dollar a month data plan, and Verizon's least 
expensive one, the last time I checked was 45 dollars.

Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: Diane Bomar bomon...@earthlink.net
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 4:33 PM
Subject: Re: iphone question.


Before making any assumptions about the cost of a contract, it is besst to 
find out how much  you will have to pay with or without a contract. In 
recent months, they seem to be remarkably the same, and significantly less 
than they were a year ago. That would depend on the provider you choose, 
which depends on the country in which you live. If used as a with cellular 
data, there is going to be a monthly charge in addition to the cost of the 
phone, no matter how the phone is purchased. In my case, I pay the same now, 
under contract, as I paid before the contract, and it is $50 less than I was 
paying a year ago  It is important not to make assumptions, based on the 
past, without researching what is presently available.
IMHO,

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 26, 2014, at 2:58 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

Not really that price.
When you pay that price, you are stuck in an expensive contract, and hence
paying a lot for the phone.
I recommend buying one either used, or an older one that Apple still sells,
and take it in to the phone store to activate, or use it without a phone
number.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: Diane Bomar bomon...@earthlink.net
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: iphone question.


Upgrading every time there is a new model and staying 4 generations behind
are not the only alternatives. How about purchasing a phone that Apple still
sells, and will readily accommodate the latest OS and planning to keep it
for several years In that way, you will not always be so far behind the
capabilities. If you only want a basic phone, that will support reading
ebooks and music, then there are several free phones out there. Even a basic
5s with 16GB and a two-year contract is $99!

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 22, 2014, at 8:52 PM, michael's mail boxl
michaelandjea...@aapt.net.au wrote:

Hi Glen I have not felt the size of each yet.
I guess it depends on what we want the phone for.
I just thought for the money the 4s would be good I don't want just the 4
model.
The thing with Apple if you want the latest and greatest it will cost every
year they reliese a new model.
I still useing my old 3GS witch has been a good reliable phone and still is
like new.
I will not be buying every time Apple bring out a new model.
cheers Michael.

-Original Message- From: Glenn
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 10:06 AM
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Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation

2014-09-26 Thread eleanor martha burke
I cannot use Siri because I'm not connected to the Internet I get speech 
telling me that I'm not good at doing the iTunes thing so I may have to wait 
till tomorrow for sighted systems however thanks to everyone for all your help

Eleanor Martha Burke

 On 26 Sep 2014, at 21:54, Aleeha Dudley blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 You can do one of three things.
 All of these do not require sighted assistance. I will list them in the order 
 of the ease in which to accomplish them.
 First: press the home button three times rapidly. This does not require cited 
 assistance, and should turn voiceover on. This is set by default, I believe, 
 in the majority of newdevices.
 Second: if Siri is enabled, and you have Wi-Fi, you can tell Siri to do it. A 
 good way to check and see if you have Siri is to press and hold the home 
 button. If it says that Siri is not available because you are not connected 
 to the Internet, then try step three. You will not be able to get Internet 
 without voiceover.
 Third: connect your iPod to a computer. Do not allow it to sink, but you can 
 then choose a voiceover in the configure accessibility dialogue.
 
 Aleeha Dudley and seeing eye dog Dallas 
 Vice President, Ohio Association of blind students
 blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com
 The wind of Heaven is that which blows between a horse's ears. Arabian 
 proverb 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Sep 26, 2014, at 4:35 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Now guys in my case I am familiar with vo and tripple clicks etc, my problem 
 is that I got the iPod Touch restored to factory settings in the store.  Now 
 I do not have sighted assistance.  If I did, I would know eactly as to how 
 to instruct the person myself.  What I am looking from here is if you guys 
 can give me a way without the sighted assistance of getting the vo going.
 - Original Message - From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
 To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 9:25 PM
 Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation
 
 
 Actually there's an easier way. simply do a 2 finger swipe up and let it 
 start to read. then turn the volume up and down.
 
 Hth.
 On Sep 26, 2014, at 1:12 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:
 
 One thing I have found is that if you want the volume of VoiceOver to be
 turned up, it helps to be swiping left to right and then right to left, as
 to make VO speak, while at the same time you are pressing the volume up
 button.
 Glenn
 - Original Message - From: barbara jones jone...@comcast.net
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 2:53 PM
 Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation
 
 
 Did you do a triple click with the home button to toggle it on or off? It’s
 a 3 finger double tap to toggle speech on and off and one more thing, have
 you checked the volume? Sometimes for whatever reason the volume on mine
 gets turned down without me touching that button.
 Barbara
 
 On Sep 26, 2014, at 3:25 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke
 eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi All, I have just restored my iPod Touch 5th generation in order to sell
 it.  I was in the Apple store and when no speech on it, I asked the man
 assisting me to turn on voice over.  He said he did but I said I could not
 hear it.  He went in again to General and Accessability and this time I
 could hear it.  I put the iPod Touch in my pocket and went home.  When I
 came home vo was not talking.  Any ideas how I put voice over on please
 and why would it have turned off like that.  I did the usual 2 finger
 tripple tap but that did nothing.
 
 Eleanor
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Re: How to download a previously purchased iPhone App

2014-09-26 Thread Matthew Carello
hello Paul. Go to updates in the app store on the phone. Double tap on 
purchases. Then double tap on not on this IPhone. There should be a list of 
apps you got that are not there. Just double tap on install.
On Sep 26, 2014, at 3:45 PM, Paul Hopewell hopew...@hopewell.org.uk wrote:

 Hello, 
 I am trying to download an iPhone App which I had purchased some time ago and 
 subsequently deleted from itunes. I have now moved to IOS 8 where this App 
 will now work again but cannot download it. 
 
 If I go to the itunes App store the download button for the App is dimmed. If 
 I go to the purchased tab in iTunes I can see the App but there is no button 
 to re-download it. 
 
 I recall that there is a keystroke which will undim a dimed control, which 
 would then let me redo the download. 
 
 Any ideas would be appreciated. 
 Many thanks. 
 
 Paul Hopewell
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Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation

2014-09-26 Thread Andy Collins
Siri needs wi-fi or cellular connectivity -

Andy
On 26 Sep 2014, at 22:28, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

 If SIRI will work without WIFI.
 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 4:23 PM
 Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation
 
 
 Oh right that is an idea thanks.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
 To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 10:16 PM
 Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation
 
 
 Not all the time.  Iv'e used phones where that was disabled by the place
 where the phone was baught. so it is very much a good idea to use siri.
 
 Take care.
 On Sep 26, 2014, at 1:59 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:
 
 Good point, but I think that on version 7, you can triple-click the home
 key
 on a newly restored phone and make VO start talking.
 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 3:47 PM
 Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation
 
 
 SHE WON’T BE ABLE TO AS SHE WON’T HAVE wi-fi sET UP HAVING REVERTED TO
 FACTORY SETTINGS -
 
 ANDY
 On 26 Sep 2014, at 21:43, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Tell siri to enable voice over.  this is new since I believe ios7 or is
 it
 6?
 
 Take care.
 On Sep 26, 2014, at 1:35 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke
 eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Now guys in my case I am familiar with vo and tripple clicks etc, my
 problem is that I got the iPod Touch restored to factory settings in the
 store.  Now I do not have sighted assistance.  If I did, I would know
 eactly as to how to instruct the person myself.  What I am looking from
 here is if you guys can give me a way without the sighted assistance of
 getting the vo going.
 - Original Message - From: Sarah k Alawami
 marri...@gmail.com
 To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 9:25 PM
 Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation
 
 
 Actually there's an easier way. simply do a 2 finger swipe up and let it
 start to read. then turn the volume up and down.
 
 Hth.
 On Sep 26, 2014, at 1:12 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:
 
 One thing I have found is that if you want the volume of VoiceOver to
 be
 turned up, it helps to be swiping left to right and then right to left,
 as
 to make VO speak, while at the same time you are pressing the volume up
 button.
 Glenn
 - Original Message - From: barbara jones
 jone...@comcast.net
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 2:53 PM
 Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation
 
 
 Did you do a triple click with the home button to toggle it on or off?
 It’s
 a 3 finger double tap to toggle speech on and off and one more thing,
 have
 you checked the volume? Sometimes for whatever reason the volume on
 mine
 gets turned down without me touching that button.
 Barbara
 
 On Sep 26, 2014, at 3:25 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke
 eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi All, I have just restored my iPod Touch 5th generation in order to
 sell
 it.  I was in the Apple store and when no speech on it, I asked the
 man
 assisting me to turn on voice over.  He said he did but I said I could
 not
 hear it.  He went in again to General and Accessability and this time
 I
 could hear it.  I put the iPod Touch in my pocket and went home.  When
 I
 came home vo was not talking.  Any ideas how I put voice over on
 please
 and why would it have turned off like that.  I did the usual 2 finger
 tripple tap but that did nothing.
 
 Eleanor
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thanks re KNFB reader

2014-09-26 Thread Judy Pryor
I would like to thank Glen, Andy, Sarah and Eleanor for all the input you have 
given e on the reader.   I like my 4S very much maybe one day when I can afford 
it I will upgrade..
all the best Judy
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Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation

2014-09-26 Thread barbara jones
You wil need to  press the home button 3 times quickly.
On Sep 26, 2014, at 4:05 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:

 How do I do a tripple click without sighted assistance please?
 - Original Message - From: barbara jones jone...@comcast.net
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 8:53 PM
 Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation
 
 
 Did you do a triple click with the home button to toggle it on or off? It’s a 
 3 finger double tap to toggle speech on and off and one more thing, have you 
 checked the volume? Sometimes for whatever reason the volume on mine gets 
 turned down without me touching that button.
 Barbara
 
 On Sep 26, 2014, at 3:25 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi All, I have just restored my iPod Touch 5th generation in order to sell 
 it.  I was in the Apple store and when no speech on it, I asked the man 
 assisting me to turn on voice over.  He said he did but I said I could not 
 hear it.  He went in again to General and Accessability and this time I 
 could hear it.  I put the iPod Touch in my pocket and went home.  When I 
 came home vo was not talking.  Any ideas how I put voice over on please and 
 why would it have turned off like that.  I did the usual 2 finger tripple 
 tap but that did nothing.
 
 Eleanor
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iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-26 Thread Matthew Chao
Hi, Folks.  I have an iPhone 5 running the latest version of 
iOS7.  I've heard that 8.0.0 had problems regarding the Bluetooth 
keyboards working with VoiceOver.  Has this been fixed in 
iOS8.0.2?  Also, what about the sticking phone touch tone 
key?  Thanks in advance for info.


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Re: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-26 Thread Glenn
Hi Matthew,
Since you asked, I would offer my opinion that it is a good idea to wait for 
a couple weeks at least after a major update, to let all the bugs get worked 
out.
IOS 7X is not that bad and waiting just gives something to look forward to 
in a few weeks.
Don't get wrapped up in this instant gratification craze, and save yourself 
some headache and wait for a while.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
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To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 9:30 PM
Subject: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?


Hi, Folks.  I have an iPhone 5 running the latest version of
iOS7.  I've heard that 8.0.0 had problems regarding the Bluetooth
keyboards working with VoiceOver.  Has this been fixed in
iOS8.0.2?  Also, what about the sticking phone touch tone
key?  Thanks in advance for info.

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Re: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-26 Thread Anna
From the update info list given during update there were no accessibilty bug 
fixes listed, mainly cellular connectivity fixes. 

I would wait. 

Anna 

Sent from my iPad

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Re: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-26 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Actually I heard some of the accessibility bugs have been fixed and some work 
arounds as well. I myself will wait especially now that apple stopped code 
signing ios7 so down grading really is not a possibility anymore if you find 
somethign brakes.

At the same time how ever  the more of us that report bugs the more apple might 
consider a fix for us.
On Sep 26, 2014, at 8:00 PM, Anna asengi...@rochester.rr.com wrote:

 From the update info list given during update there were no accessibilty bug 
 fixes listed, mainly cellular connectivity fixes. 
 
 I would wait. 
 
 Anna 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Sep 26, 2014, at 10:30 PM, Matthew Chao mattc...@verizon.net wrote:
 
 Hi, Folks.  I have an iPhone 5 running the latest version of iOS7.  I've 
 heard that 8.0.0 had problems regarding the Bluetooth keyboards working with 
 VoiceOver.  Has this been fixed in iOS8.0.2?  Also, what about the sticking 
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RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-26 Thread Shaun Oliver
It's always a good idea to upgrade, even if the bugs haven't all been ironed
out, you'll find that there's always security fixes which are reason enough
to upgrade.


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Saturday, 27 September 2014 14:25
To: mac access list iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

Actually I heard some of the accessibility bugs have been fixed and some
work arounds as well. I myself will wait especially now that apple stopped
code signing ios7 so down grading really is not a possibility anymore if you
find somethign brakes.

At the same time how ever  the more of us that report bugs the more apple
might consider a fix for us.
On Sep 26, 2014, at 8:00 PM, Anna asengi...@rochester.rr.com wrote:

 From the update info list given during update there were no accessibilty
bug fixes listed, mainly cellular connectivity fixes. 
 
 I would wait. 
 
 Anna 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Sep 26, 2014, at 10:30 PM, Matthew Chao mattc...@verizon.net wrote:
 
 Hi, Folks.  I have an iPhone 5 running the latest version of iOS7.  I've
heard that 8.0.0 had problems regarding the Bluetooth keyboards working with
VoiceOver.  Has this been fixed in iOS8.0.2?  Also, what about the sticking
phone touch tone key?  Thanks in advance for info.
 
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IOS8 and handwriting

2014-09-26 Thread Diane Bomar
Is handwriting broken in IOS8? It seems to be broken in 8.02, but I did not try 
it in 8.0. Have others experienced this problem?
Diane
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Re: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-26 Thread Glenn
I don't think we need to worry about security in version 7.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: Shaun Oliver blindma...@gmail.com
To: 'OS X  iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 11:57 PM
Subject: RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?


It's always a good idea to upgrade, even if the bugs haven't all been ironed
out, you'll find that there's always security fixes which are reason enough
to upgrade.


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Saturday, 27 September 2014 14:25
To: mac access list iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

Actually I heard some of the accessibility bugs have been fixed and some
work arounds as well. I myself will wait especially now that apple stopped
code signing ios7 so down grading really is not a possibility anymore if you
find somethign brakes.

At the same time how ever  the more of us that report bugs the more apple
might consider a fix for us.
On Sep 26, 2014, at 8:00 PM, Anna asengi...@rochester.rr.com wrote:

 From the update info list given during update there were no accessibilty
bug fixes listed, mainly cellular connectivity fixes.

 I would wait.

 Anna

 Sent from my iPad

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heard that 8.0.0 had problems regarding the Bluetooth keyboards working with
VoiceOver.  Has this been fixed in iOS8.0.2?  Also, what about the sticking
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Re: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-26 Thread Diane Bomar
Unless there is something in IOS 8, that you absolutely must have, I would 
encourage you to wait. After using IOS 8 for a week, on my new iPhone, I 
definitely will not be updating this iPad mini, till some bugs are fixed.



Sent from my iPad

On Sep 26, 2014, at 11:07 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

I don't think we need to worry about security in version 7.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: Shaun Oliver blindma...@gmail.com
To: 'OS X  iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 11:57 PM
Subject: RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?


It's always a good idea to upgrade, even if the bugs haven't all been ironed
out, you'll find that there's always security fixes which are reason enough
to upgrade.


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Saturday, 27 September 2014 14:25
To: mac access list iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

Actually I heard some of the accessibility bugs have been fixed and some
work arounds as well. I myself will wait especially now that apple stopped
code signing ios7 so down grading really is not a possibility anymore if you
find somethign brakes.

At the same time how ever  the more of us that report bugs the more apple
might consider a fix for us.
 On Sep 26, 2014, at 8:00 PM, Anna asengi...@rochester.rr.com wrote:
 
 From the update info list given during update there were no accessibilty
bug fixes listed, mainly cellular connectivity fixes.
 
 I would wait.
 
 Anna
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Sep 26, 2014, at 10:30 PM, Matthew Chao mattc...@verizon.net wrote:
 
 Hi, Folks.  I have an iPhone 5 running the latest version of iOS7.  I've
heard that 8.0.0 had problems regarding the Bluetooth keyboards working with
VoiceOver.  Has this been fixed in iOS8.0.2?  Also, what about the sticking
phone touch tone key?  Thanks in advance for info.
 
 Matthew Chao
 
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