Re: [MacGroup] ISP advice

[Tanya BeliefBustingBreakthroughs]

I too have just cut cable from Spectrum. The only channel I ever watched was KET. I have Amazon prime and got a fire box. Really great shows. Now I just have to figure out how to get KET so I can watch Masterpiece shows. I don't know what sling TV carries but will check.___
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Re: [MacGroup] ISP advice

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

Cut the cable and put an antenna on your roof, and get subscriptions to a 
couple of services. I use Amazon Prime and get HBO Now to watch Game of Thrones 
and whatever I can squeeze in during the time Thrones is playing. I wish we 
still had video stores to watch older movies. RedBox only has newer ones.


> On Aug 6, 2017, at 11:06 PM, ANDREW ARNOLD  wrote:
> 
> I know the group has discussed services many times, any current 
> recommendations for ISPs, given all the tricks Spectrum is now playing? I 
> rec’d a letter this week indicating I would need Receivers for my TVs, which 
> would be free for 24 months (no indication how much afterward). They also 
> informed me they are taking away about 20 channels from my very basic cable 
> TV package. I don’t watch much TV, but still feel violated.
> 
> So 3-4 years ago I was paying $89/mo for basic phone, basic cable, and a 
> lower tier Internet speed. Now I am paying $140/mo for the same package! I 
> hate the lack of competition these near monopoly cable operators  have. 
> 
> Is anyone else upset about these new changes and have current recommendations?
> 
> Thank you
> Andy
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[MacGroup] ISP advice

[ANDREW ARNOLD]

I know the group has discussed services many times, any current recommendations 
for ISPs, given all the tricks Spectrum is now playing? I rec’d a letter this 
week indicating I would need Receivers for my TVs, which would be free for 24 
months (no indication how much afterward). They also informed me they are 
taking away about 20 channels from my very basic cable TV package. I don’t 
watch much TV, but still feel violated.

So 3-4 years ago I was paying $89/mo for basic phone, basic cable, and a lower 
tier Internet speed. Now I am paying $140/mo for the same package! I hate the 
lack of competition these near monopoly cable operators  have. 

Is anyone else upset about these new changes and have current recommendations?

Thank you
Andy





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Re: [MacGroup] another Who's on my WiFi question

[Jonathan Fletcher]

Harry, 

Are you sure the router is telling you its _WIFI_ MAC address or is it giving 
you a _LAN_ port address?

Jonathan




> On Aug 6, 2017, at 12:33 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
> 
> Do you know why my Router’s Mac Address printed on the router ends in 9c but 
> in the App it says the last two digits are 9D?

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Re: [MacGroup] another Who's on my WiFi question

[Lee Larson]

On Aug 6, 2017, at 12:33 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:

> Do you know why my Router’s Mac Address printed on the router ends in 9c but 
> in the App it says the last two digits are 9D?


Every network interface has its own MAC address. The address on the label is 
probably the WAN address and the address you’re seeing is the LAN address. The 
WAN (wide area network) address is the ethernet address seen by the outside 
world. The LAN (local area network) address is the one seen inside your house. 
There’s probably yet another LAN address because the router likely has both 
WiFi and Ethernet interfaces for the LAN.

Of course, it’s quite easy to change the advertised MAC address on most 
machines. For example on MacOS you can change it to whatever you want with the 
terminal command

sudo ifconfig en0 ether whatever

where ‘whatever’ is the address you want; e.g., 78:4f:63:12:34:56. This will 
stick until you either reboot or change it to something else. (The eth0 might 
be eth1, if you have a wired connection.)

L^2

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Re: [MacGroup] Who's on my WiFi

[Lee Larson]

On Aug 6, 2017, at 11:55 AM, rmead...@gmail.com  
wrote:

> Here's a screen shot of mine from this iPhone.
> 
> I am assuming the 1st one is the router and 2nd is my iPhone.
> 
> And the others are?
> 
> I entered those addresses in Safari and it just spins, then eventually say 
> safari can't open page.  What's up with that?

It’s lot likely they are running a Web server. The addresses of the form 
192.168.*.* are the addresses of devices on your local network—probably inside 
your house.

You can identify the manufacturer of most devices by grabbing the MAC number 
and going to a Web page such as

>

L^2

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Re: [MacGroup] another Who's on my WiFi question

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

Thanks Lee,

Do you know why my Router’s Mac Address printed on the router ends in 9c but in 
the App it says the last two digits are 9D?


> On Aug 6, 2017, at 12:23 PM, Lee Larson  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Aug 6, 2017, at 11:21 AM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer > > wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve identified all of my devices on my network in Who’s on my Wifi.
>> 
>> I have one device I can’t identify. In safari I entered the ip address for 
>> my router (ATT Uverse router). 
>> 
>> Searching through the router I found the Mac Address I can’t identify in 
>> Who’s on my WiFi and it’s labeled “Local Host.
>> 
>> Can someone please explain what this means?
> 
> On most operating systems localhost is the internal network address of the 
> local computer. It usually lives at ip 127.0.0.1 in IPv4 and ::1 in IPv6. 
> Your router is probably running some form of Linux (most do), so you inherit 
> the standard Linux localhost. (Actually, in IPv4, any address starting with 
> 127 will resolve to localhost.)
> 
> The localhost address is used internally by the operating system to talk to 
> itself via what’s called the loopback interface.
> 
> L^2
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Re: [MacGroup] Who's on my WiFi

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

You have to identify each object by it’s MacAddress. You can edit each unknown 
item once you know what it is.
> On Aug 6, 2017, at 11:55 AM, rmead...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Here's a screen shot of mine from this iPhone. 
> 
> I am assuming the 1st one is the router and 2nd is my iPhone.  
> 
> And the others are?  
> 
> I entered those addresses in Safari and it just spins, then eventually say 
> safari can't open page.  What's up with that? 
> 
> 
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[Lee Larson]

> On Aug 6, 2017, at 11:21 AM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  > wrote:
> 
> I’ve identified all of my devices on my network in Who’s on my Wifi.
> 
> I have one device I can’t identify. In safari I entered the ip address for my 
> router (ATT Uverse router).
> 
> Searching through the router I found the Mac Address I can’t identify in 
> Who’s on my WiFi and it’s labeled “Local Host.
> 
> Can someone please explain what this means?

On most operating systems localhost is the internal network address of the 
local computer. It usually lives at ip 127.0.0.1 in IPv4 and ::1 in IPv6. Your 
router is probably running some form of Linux (most do), so you inherit the 
standard Linux localhost. (Actually, in IPv4, any address starting with 127 
will resolve to localhost.)

The localhost address is used internally by the operating system to talk to 
itself via what’s called the loopback interface.

L^2

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[MacGroup] another Who's on my WiFi question

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

I’ve identified all of my devices on my network in Who’s on my Wifi.

I have one device I can’t identify. In safari I entered the ip address for my 
router (ATT Uverse router). 

Searching through the router I found the Mac Address I can’t identify in Who’s 
on my WiFi and it’s labeled “Local Host.

Can someone please explain what this means?

Thanks.


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Re: [MacGroup] Who's On My WiFi

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

Yeah, but my router doesn’t have blue tooth.
> On Aug 6, 2017, at 9:40 AM, Brian ONeal  wrote:
> 
> Bluetooth and wifi are usually one character different on a device like an 
> iPhone or iPad for their mac addresses. 
> 
> Brian O
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 6, 2017, at 6:28 AM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve been using the App Who’s on My WiFi.
>> 
>> This morning I began to identify all the devices on my network. The App says 
>> my router’s Mac Address ends in 9D but on the router it says the Mac Adress 
>> ends in 9C. All the other number/letter combinations in the Mac Address are 
>> the same.
>> 
>> Why are the two different?
>> 
>> It’s an ATT UVerse router.
>> 
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[Brian ONeal]

Bluetooth and wifi are usually one character different on a device like an 
iPhone or iPad for their mac addresses. 

Brian O

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 6, 2017, at 6:28 AM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
> 
> I’ve been using the App Who’s on My WiFi.
> 
> This morning I began to identify all the devices on my network. The App says 
> my router’s Mac Address ends in 9D but on the router it says the Mac Adress 
> ends in 9C. All the other number/letter combinations in the Mac Address are 
> the same.
> 
> Why are the two different?
> 
> It’s an ATT UVerse router.
> 
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[MacGroup] Who's On My WiFi

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

I’ve been using the App Who’s on My WiFi.

This morning I began to identify all the devices on my network. The App says my 
router’s Mac Address ends in 9D but on the router it says the Mac Adress ends 
in 9C. All the other number/letter combinations in the Mac Address are the same.

Why are the two different?

It’s an ATT UVerse router.



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