Important! -was- Re: OT Kindle II access petition

[Cara Quinn]

   Just a quick note; please do not send replies to this on the list.   
We don't want to generate a thread here, -I just wanted you all to  
know about this.  Thanks so much and have a lovely weekend!…

Smiles,

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On Apr 3, 2009, at 8:27 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:

   Hello All, I'm allowing this post from a member who wrote me  
privately, as I feel that this is of enough importance / benefit to  
the blind / VI community that we all might like to have a look and  
possibly add your voices.

   If anyone has issues with this posting, then please, by all means,  
feel free to write me at:

caraqu...@caraquinn.com

   Have a terrific weekend and make it one to remember!

Smiles,

Cara  :)

Begin forwarded message:
From: "Danielsen, Chris"  (by way of David Andrews  
)
Date: April 3, 2009 10:55:44 PM ADT
To: david.andr...@nfbnet.org
Subject: [nfbcs] Sign the petition to allow everyone access to e-books
Reply-To: NFBnet NFBCS Mailing List 


Dear Fellow Federationists:

As many of you know, we are engaged in a campaign to obtain access for  
the blind and others with print disabilities to e-books available for  
Amazon's new Kindle 2 e-book reader. The new reader, which Amazon is  
working to make fully accessible to the blind, has the ability to use  
text-to-speech to read these e-books aloud; but under pressure from  
the Authors Guild, Amazon has announced that authors and publishers  
will be allowed to disable the text-to-speech function. The National  
Federation of the blind has joined with over twenty other  
organizations to create the reading Rights Coalition, which has set up  
an on-line petition to urge the Authors Guild and Amazon to reverse  
course. Please read and sign the petition here: 
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/We-Want-To-Read

Please note: If you are using screen access technology, the first  
three fields on the form to sign the petition may not be announced.  
They are, in order: (1) a drop-down menu from which to select your  
prefix (Mr., Mrs., etc.); (2) an edit field for your first name, and  
(3) an edit field for your last name. the rest of the fields should  
announce themselves as you tab to them. If you still have trouble  
filling out the form, please send the following information to 
readingrig...@nfb.org and we will be happy to sign on your behalf.  
You will need to send us your name, address, e-mail address, and any  
personal comments you would like to make about this issue. Thank you  
so much for your participation in this critically important effort.

Sincerely:

Chris Danielsen
Director of Public Relations
National Federation of the Blind

P.S. Once you have signed the petition, please be sure to forward the  
link to all of the contacts in your address book that you believe will  
support us in this cause.


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OT Kindle II access petition

[Cara Quinn]

   Hello All, I'm allowing this post from a member who wrote me  
privately, as I feel that this is of enough importance / benefit to  
the blind / VI community that we all might like to have a look and  
possibly add your voices.

   If anyone has issues with this posting, then please, by all means,  
feel free to write me at:

caraqu...@caraquinn.com

   Have a terrific weekend and make it one to remember!

Smiles,

Cara  :)

Begin forwarded message:
From: "Danielsen, Chris"  (by way of David Andrews  
)
Date: April 3, 2009 10:55:44 PM ADT
To: david.andr...@nfbnet.org
Subject: [nfbcs] Sign the petition to allow everyone access to e-books
Reply-To: NFBnet NFBCS Mailing List 


Dear Fellow Federationists:

As many of you know, we are engaged in a campaign to obtain access for  
the blind and others with print disabilities to e-books available for  
Amazon's new Kindle 2 e-book reader. The new reader, which Amazon is  
working to make fully accessible to the blind, has the ability to use  
text-to-speech to read these e-books aloud; but under pressure from  
the Authors Guild, Amazon has announced that authors and publishers  
will be allowed to disable the text-to-speech function. The National  
Federation of the blind has joined with over twenty other  
organizations to create the reading Rights Coalition, which has set up  
an on-line petition to urge the Authors Guild and Amazon to reverse  
course. Please read and sign the petition here: 
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/We-Want-To-Read

Please note: If you are using screen access technology, the first  
three fields on the form to sign the petition may not be announced.  
They are, in order: (1) a drop-down menu from which to select your  
prefix (Mr., Mrs., etc.); (2) an edit field for your first name, and  
(3) an edit field for your last name. the rest of the fields should  
announce themselves as you tab to them. If you still have trouble  
filling out the form, please send the following information to 
readingrig...@nfb.org and we will be happy to sign on your behalf.  
You will need to send us your name, address, e-mail address, and any  
personal comments you would like to make about this issue. Thank you  
so much for your participation in this critically important effort.

Sincerely:

Chris Danielsen
Director of Public Relations
National Federation of the Blind

P.S. Once you have signed the petition, please be sure to forward the  
link to all of the contacts in your address book that you believe will  
support us in this cause.


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Re: Huge Problem with Keys

[Dan Eickmeier]

HI, in order to get the mac to boot from  the cd, when you hear the  
chime at startup, hold down the c key and  it should boot to the  
install.  WHen the disc stops spinning, you can hit command f5, or  
command fn f5 if you're on a laptop to bring of VO.  Although really I  
highly doubt that  a reinstall of the os will help this keyboard  
issue.  I think if you were to take your machine into Apple and get  
the keyboard replaced, that would  be the best thing to do.
On Apr 3, 2009, at 5:26 PM, Tiffany D wrote:


Well, I don't want to have to lug around a wireless keyboard as I
prefer everything built-in.  But for testing, it can't be that bad.  I
have a wireless keyboard but it's probably not Mac-compatible.  I
tried installing Leopard with my mother, who is literally just getting
into computers, and despite her best efforts, we couldn't get it to
work.  The Macbook would just start up with Skype and everything, even
when I put the disk in as it turned on.  She and I heard it ask if we
wanted to install only the bundled software but of course, that's not
what I wanted.  It was tricky trying to get her to open things cause
she's so new at this and not learning on a Mac and we couldn't figure
out how to get the cd to start on it's own so we just gave up.
Tomorrow, I'm having another sighted friend come over here.  He's
slightly better than Mom at the computer so maybe, we can figure it
out.  What am I missing?  I thought the Leopard installation was
supposed to be accessible?  If it really is the keyboard, maybe I'll
just have him delete my documents and other personal information and
then hsend it to Apple.

On 03/04/2009, chantel cuddemi  wrote:
>
> Yes, if you get a wireless usb keyboard, you should be fine.
> On Apr 3, 2009, at 4:46 AM, Mark Baxter wrote:
>
>>
>> It sounds like a keyboard issue and not an OS issue.  Why reinstall  
>> at
>> all, why not just get a new keyboard, or use a USB keyboard?
>>
>>
>> Mark BurningHawk
>>
>> Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
>> MSN:  burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
>> My home page:
>> http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
>>
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Re: Installing Leopard on a Netbook

[sandi sørensen]

not going to saying other than "badly deleted word account from a mail  
i was seeing when i saw her mail.:)
and chriss...nope i would never use such a language in a mail. ya know  
girl and our image and all that

/sandi




On Apr 3, 2009, at 6:35 PM, Chris Gilland wrote:

>
> Um,  Eck skeuz? me?  Sue your c***?  Excuse me?  I r'r'reely! hope you
> didn't mean the word ending with the letters, n t.  I find that word
> obscenely! offensive!  If I hear language not just from you, but  
> anyone! on
> list again of this nature I? w'will! leave, no questions asked.  I  
> am on
> your side and agree with your feeling of stance, however, in all do  
> respect,
> mam, that was extremely obscenely vile/vulgar! Please in all do  
> respect for
> my sake, try to choicen your words a bit.  I know you starred it  
> out, and
> thank you for that, but that word r'really! did offend me honestly.   
> No need
> to apologise, you didn't know, just in the future, all that I ask,  
> in all do
> respect, is please be more careful with your phraising.  That word  
> is a
> spoiler to me based on something in my childhood that happened.  I  
> won't go
> into it though.
>
> Chris.
>
>
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> - Original Message -
> From: "sandi sørensen" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 3:50 AM
> Subject: Re: Installing Leopard on a Netbook
>
>
>
> hey. :)
> just for the record... keep in mind that. The law never mind if you
> are blind of unable to use the little cute netbook without osx on it
> says it is illegal to do it.
> Meaning that apple can at anytime and with all right law in hand and
> all that sue your cu***. With that said. Would i do it?
> Not really it is alittle like buying a chevy and laying an lycomming
> in it.
> I mean... why not go out getting a netbook and be  legal  and lay
> linux on it?
> It would even be able to speak greek outta the box.
>
>
> /sandi
> On Apr 3, 2009, at 5:55 PM, ben mustill-rose wrote:
>
>>
>> Wow, lots of questions, here goes:
>> I went on Google and typed in "install leopard netbook" without the
>> quotes.  the first site in the results is the one to which I'm
>> referring.  I'm wondering if anyone has done this or if you think it
>> would be successful/easy for me to do.  Let's keep it hypothetical to
>> avoid legal drama.  Keep in mind that I don't have any experience  
>> with
>> terminal or partitioning etc and the first parts of the installation
>> probably wouldn't use sound, since the author said he installed that
>> driver later.  I would be relying on sighted assistance from someone
>> who's not too technically-oriented but who can follow instructions if
>> they're clear.  The first site made sense but one of the links on it
>> got very technical so my head is spinning.  The one thing I doubt I
>> need to worry about is resolution since I can't see it anyway.
>> Follow the instructions and you should be fine; just make sure that
>> someones done it on the aspire before you get one so you can be sure
>> it workss - partitions can get very messed up very quickly but again,
>> follow the instructions; personally I think that partitioning is
>> pretty obvious but meh, each to there own - you won't kill anything  
>> so
>> give it a go.
>>
>> I have the installation disks that came with my Macbook so I'm
>> assuming
>> that's Leopard?  What's the difference, tech-wise, between that and
>> the other version they mentioned on the site?
>> The one that i'm guessing they mensioned is a modified version of
>> leopard - ie: not the disks that came with your mb. You would have to
>> learn how to use bit torrent, download and then burn the os they are
>> speaking about and do it like that.
>> Can it work on any netbook with similar specs?
>> no! as I said ^, don't be the first to try it, be sure someones done
>> it before.
>> Does it still have VoiceOver on it?
>> yes, talking install might not work; on some netbooks the headphone
>> port or the speakers might not work.
>> what would I need to do differently if I used my copy, cause he still
>> talked about using a modified version, even though he chose a  
>> licensed
>> copy.
>> He's being sneaky to try and avoid a few grey airias of the apple
>> licencing agreement. He's not actually using original leopard disks;
>> he's using the hacked version and purchasing a leopard licence for
>> that hacked version; in other words, he's using a hacked version,
>> going out and buying a set of leopard dis

Re: Installing Leopard on a Netbook

[sandi sørensen]

hmmm I believe that is the most interesting read i have had for a long  
time.
Am just eying my little netbook...
And still... as cute and geeky as it would be to have the timid kitten  
on it i would still run for linux.
Yes reading longer docs would be a pain with espeak but the  
consequences would be worse.
Lets face it girls  apple makes a cool os for the most parts and wait  
til they come up with  a netbook


/sandi
On Apr 3, 2009, at 6:11 PM, E.J. Zufelt wrote:

>
> Good evening,
>
> I haven't followed this entire thread.  But, you may wish to look up
> Psystar v. Apple in google.  Apple is attempting to prevent Psystar
> from selling clone computers with retail versions of Leopard
> installed.  Apple claims that their license only extends to Apple
> branded hardware.
>
>
> On 4-Apr-09, at 4:50 AM, sandi sørensen wrote:
>
>>
>> hey. :)
>> just for the record... keep in mind that. The law never mind if you
>> are blind of unable to use the little cute netbook without osx on it
>> says it is illegal to do it.
>> Meaning that apple can at anytime and with all right law in hand and
>> all that sue your cu***. With that said. Would i do it?
>> Not really it is alittle like buying a chevy and laying an lycomming
>> in it.
>> I mean... why not go out getting a netbook and be  legal  and lay
>> linux on it?
>> It would even be able to speak greek outta the box.
>>
>>
>> /sandi
>> On Apr 3, 2009, at 5:55 PM, ben mustill-rose wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Wow, lots of questions, here goes:
>>> I went on Google and typed in "install leopard netbook" without the
>>> quotes.  the first site in the results is the one to which I'm
>>> referring.  I'm wondering if anyone has done this or if you think it
>>> would be successful/easy for me to do.  Let's keep it hypothetical  
>>> to
>>> avoid legal drama.  Keep in mind that I don't have any experience
>>> with
>>> terminal or partitioning etc and the first parts of the installation
>>> probably wouldn't use sound, since the author said he installed that
>>> driver later.  I would be relying on sighted assistance from someone
>>> who's not too technically-oriented but who can follow instructions  
>>> if
>>> they're clear.  The first site made sense but one of the links on it
>>> got very technical so my head is spinning.  The one thing I doubt I
>>> need to worry about is resolution since I can't see it anyway.
>>> Follow the instructions and you should be fine; just make sure that
>>> someones done it on the aspire before you get one so you can be sure
>>> it workss - partitions can get very messed up very quickly but  
>>> again,
>>> follow the instructions; personally I think that partitioning is
>>> pretty obvious but meh, each to there own - you won't kill anything
>>> so
>>> give it a go.
>>>
>>> I have the installation disks that came with my Macbook so I'm
>>> assuming
>>> that's Leopard?  What's the difference, tech-wise, between that and
>>> the other version they mentioned on the site?
>>> The one that i'm guessing they mensioned is a modified version of
>>> leopard - ie: not the disks that came with your mb. You would have  
>>> to
>>> learn how to use bit torrent, download and then burn the os they are
>>> speaking about and do it like that.
>>> Can it work on any netbook with similar specs?
>>> no! as I said ^, don't be the first to try it, be sure someones done
>>> it before.
>>> Does it still have VoiceOver on it?
>>> yes, talking install might not work; on some netbooks the headphone
>>> port or the speakers might not work.
>>> what would I need to do differently if I used my copy, cause he  
>>> still
>>> talked about using a modified version, even though he chose a
>>> licensed
>>> copy.
>>> He's being sneaky to try and avoid a few grey airias of the apple
>>> licencing agreement. He's not actually using original leopard disks;
>>> he's using the hacked version and purchasing a leopard licence for
>>> that hacked version; in other words, he's using a hacked version,
>>> going out and buying a set of leopard disks and then not putting the
>>> lajit disks anywhere nere his netbook.
>>> Now say I got an Acer - Aspire One Netbook with Intel® Atom™
>>> Processor
>>> N270 (either with the 120 or 160 gb hard drive and the six-cell
>>> battery, unless there's a better one under 9 inches and under $350
>>> tops out there).  Would I need to get special drivers for the
>>> netbook?
>>> Perhaps, but if its been done before then that shouldn't be a
>>> problem.
>>> I have an external cd/dvd rom drive and am wondering if I could just
>>> hook it up to the usb port on the netbook or would I need to get a
>>> drive specifically for that brand?  It did work on my desktop  
>>> without
>>> me installing any drivers, so I don't see why not.
>>> Yes, should work fine in osx, windows or what ever you want to put
>>> on it.
>>> What did he mean when he talked about having to get a wireless card.
>>> The Acer would
>>> one built-in and I have broadband from Verizon.  Would I stil

OMG: My dearest apology to the mods!

[Chris Gilland]

I'm gonna say only one thing on this, at which point I'm putting the thread 
to a rest, case closed.

I did not! under any! circumstances! mean for my last post to be sent to the 
list.  That was a complete! accident!  I could a sworn I'd changed the to 
field to reflect just the sender's e-mail address!  God I hate computers! 
Anyway, now that I'm crawling under my desk.  Cara, and others. I wanna 
apologise.  I didn't mean for that to hit the list.  I swear to god I'll be 
more careful.

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Re: Installing Leopard on a Netbook

[Chris Gilland]

Um,  Eck skeuz? me?  Sue your c***?  Excuse me?  I r'r'reely! hope you 
didn't mean the word ending with the letters, n t.  I find that word 
obscenely! offensive!  If I hear language not just from you, but anyone! on 
list again of this nature I? w'will! leave, no questions asked.  I am on 
your side and agree with your feeling of stance, however, in all do respect, 
mam, that was extremely obscenely vile/vulgar! Please in all do respect for 
my sake, try to choicen your words a bit.  I know you starred it out, and 
thank you for that, but that word r'really! did offend me honestly.  No need 
to apologise, you didn't know, just in the future, all that I ask, in all do 
respect, is please be more careful with your phraising.  That word is a 
spoiler to me based on something in my childhood that happened.  I won't go 
into it though.

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- Original Message - 
From: "sandi sørensen" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 3:50 AM
Subject: Re: Installing Leopard on a Netbook



hey. :)
just for the record... keep in mind that. The law never mind if you
are blind of unable to use the little cute netbook without osx on it
says it is illegal to do it.
Meaning that apple can at anytime and with all right law in hand and
all that sue your cu***. With that said. Would i do it?
Not really it is alittle like buying a chevy and laying an lycomming
in it.
I mean... why not go out getting a netbook and be  legal  and lay
linux on it?
It would even be able to speak greek outta the box.


/sandi
On Apr 3, 2009, at 5:55 PM, ben mustill-rose wrote:

>
> Wow, lots of questions, here goes:
> I went on Google and typed in "install leopard netbook" without the
> quotes.  the first site in the results is the one to which I'm
> referring.  I'm wondering if anyone has done this or if you think it
> would be successful/easy for me to do.  Let's keep it hypothetical to
> avoid legal drama.  Keep in mind that I don't have any experience with
> terminal or partitioning etc and the first parts of the installation
> probably wouldn't use sound, since the author said he installed that
> driver later.  I would be relying on sighted assistance from someone
> who's not too technically-oriented but who can follow instructions if
> they're clear.  The first site made sense but one of the links on it
> got very technical so my head is spinning.  The one thing I doubt I
> need to worry about is resolution since I can't see it anyway.
> Follow the instructions and you should be fine; just make sure that
> someones done it on the aspire before you get one so you can be sure
> it workss - partitions can get very messed up very quickly but again,
> follow the instructions; personally I think that partitioning is
> pretty obvious but meh, each to there own - you won't kill anything so
> give it a go.
>
>  I have the installation disks that came with my Macbook so I'm
> assuming
> that's Leopard?  What's the difference, tech-wise, between that and
> the other version they mentioned on the site?
> The one that i'm guessing they mensioned is a modified version of
> leopard - ie: not the disks that came with your mb. You would have to
> learn how to use bit torrent, download and then burn the os they are
> speaking about and do it like that.
> Can it work on any netbook with similar specs?
> no! as I said ^, don't be the first to try it, be sure someones done
> it before.
> Does it still have VoiceOver on it?
> yes, talking install might not work; on some netbooks the headphone
> port or the speakers might not work.
> what would I need to do differently if I used my copy, cause he still
> talked about using a modified version, even though he chose a licensed
> copy.
> He's being sneaky to try and avoid a few grey airias of the apple
> licencing agreement. He's not actually using original leopard disks;
> he's using the hacked version and purchasing a leopard licence for
> that hacked version; in other words, he's using a hacked version,
> going out and buying a set of leopard disks and then not putting the
> lajit disks anywhere nere his netbook.
> Now say I got an Acer - Aspire One Netbook with Intel® Atom™ Processor
> N270 (either with the 120 or 160 gb hard drive and the six-cell
> battery, unless there's a better one under 9 inches and under $350
> tops out there).  Would I need to get special drivers for the netbook?
> Perhaps, but if its been done before then that shouldn't be a problem.
> I have an external cd/dvd rom drive 

Re: Installing Leopard on a Netbook

[E.J. Zufelt]

Good evening,

I haven't followed this entire thread.  But, you may wish to look up  
Psystar v. Apple in google.  Apple is attempting to prevent Psystar  
from selling clone computers with retail versions of Leopard  
installed.  Apple claims that their license only extends to Apple  
branded hardware.


On 4-Apr-09, at 4:50 AM, sandi sørensen wrote:

>
> hey. :)
> just for the record... keep in mind that. The law never mind if you
> are blind of unable to use the little cute netbook without osx on it
> says it is illegal to do it.
> Meaning that apple can at anytime and with all right law in hand and
> all that sue your cu***. With that said. Would i do it?
> Not really it is alittle like buying a chevy and laying an lycomming
> in it.
> I mean... why not go out getting a netbook and be  legal  and lay
> linux on it?
> It would even be able to speak greek outta the box.
>
>
> /sandi
> On Apr 3, 2009, at 5:55 PM, ben mustill-rose wrote:
>
>>
>> Wow, lots of questions, here goes:
>> I went on Google and typed in "install leopard netbook" without the
>> quotes.  the first site in the results is the one to which I'm
>> referring.  I'm wondering if anyone has done this or if you think it
>> would be successful/easy for me to do.  Let's keep it hypothetical to
>> avoid legal drama.  Keep in mind that I don't have any experience  
>> with
>> terminal or partitioning etc and the first parts of the installation
>> probably wouldn't use sound, since the author said he installed that
>> driver later.  I would be relying on sighted assistance from someone
>> who's not too technically-oriented but who can follow instructions if
>> they're clear.  The first site made sense but one of the links on it
>> got very technical so my head is spinning.  The one thing I doubt I
>> need to worry about is resolution since I can't see it anyway.
>> Follow the instructions and you should be fine; just make sure that
>> someones done it on the aspire before you get one so you can be sure
>> it workss - partitions can get very messed up very quickly but again,
>> follow the instructions; personally I think that partitioning is
>> pretty obvious but meh, each to there own - you won't kill anything  
>> so
>> give it a go.
>>
>> I have the installation disks that came with my Macbook so I'm
>> assuming
>> that's Leopard?  What's the difference, tech-wise, between that and
>> the other version they mentioned on the site?
>> The one that i'm guessing they mensioned is a modified version of
>> leopard - ie: not the disks that came with your mb. You would have to
>> learn how to use bit torrent, download and then burn the os they are
>> speaking about and do it like that.
>> Can it work on any netbook with similar specs?
>> no! as I said ^, don't be the first to try it, be sure someones done
>> it before.
>> Does it still have VoiceOver on it?
>> yes, talking install might not work; on some netbooks the headphone
>> port or the speakers might not work.
>> what would I need to do differently if I used my copy, cause he still
>> talked about using a modified version, even though he chose a  
>> licensed
>> copy.
>> He's being sneaky to try and avoid a few grey airias of the apple
>> licencing agreement. He's not actually using original leopard disks;
>> he's using the hacked version and purchasing a leopard licence for
>> that hacked version; in other words, he's using a hacked version,
>> going out and buying a set of leopard disks and then not putting the
>> lajit disks anywhere nere his netbook.
>> Now say I got an Acer - Aspire One Netbook with Intel® Atom™  
>> Processor
>> N270 (either with the 120 or 160 gb hard drive and the six-cell
>> battery, unless there's a better one under 9 inches and under $350
>> tops out there).  Would I need to get special drivers for the  
>> netbook?
>> Perhaps, but if its been done before then that shouldn't be a  
>> problem.
>> I have an external cd/dvd rom drive and am wondering if I could just
>> hook it up to the usb port on the netbook or would I need to get a
>> drive specifically for that brand?  It did work on my desktop without
>> me installing any drivers, so I don't see why not.
>> Yes, should work fine in osx, windows or what ever you want to put
>> on it.
>> What did he mean when he talked about having to get a wireless card.
>> The Acer would
>> one built-in and I have broadband from Verizon.  Would I still need  
>> to
>> get a special card or would it recognise my connection like the Mac
>> does?
>> No, in that case, it wouldn't be able to use your wireless, you'd
>> either have to get a different card or not use wireless at all.  
>> Unless
>> I am mistakened, the only cards that work in this situation are mini
>> pci ones, so you'd have to open your new pet up and void its  
>> worranty.
>> I'd still do it; sounds like it could be fun.
>> Thanks.
>>
>> On 04/04/2009, Tiffany D  wrote:
>>>
>>> I went on Google and typed in "install leopard netbook" without the
>>> quotes.  the first 

Re: Installing Leopard on a Netbook

[sandi sørensen]

hey. :)
just for the record... keep in mind that. The law never mind if you  
are blind of unable to use the little cute netbook without osx on it  
says it is illegal to do it.
Meaning that apple can at anytime and with all right law in hand and  
all that sue your cu***. With that said. Would i do it?
Not really it is alittle like buying a chevy and laying an lycomming  
in it.
I mean... why not go out getting a netbook and be  legal  and lay  
linux on it?
It would even be able to speak greek outta the box.


/sandi
On Apr 3, 2009, at 5:55 PM, ben mustill-rose wrote:

>
> Wow, lots of questions, here goes:
> I went on Google and typed in "install leopard netbook" without the
> quotes.  the first site in the results is the one to which I'm
> referring.  I'm wondering if anyone has done this or if you think it
> would be successful/easy for me to do.  Let's keep it hypothetical to
> avoid legal drama.  Keep in mind that I don't have any experience with
> terminal or partitioning etc and the first parts of the installation
> probably wouldn't use sound, since the author said he installed that
> driver later.  I would be relying on sighted assistance from someone
> who's not too technically-oriented but who can follow instructions if
> they're clear.  The first site made sense but one of the links on it
> got very technical so my head is spinning.  The one thing I doubt I
> need to worry about is resolution since I can't see it anyway.
> Follow the instructions and you should be fine; just make sure that
> someones done it on the aspire before you get one so you can be sure
> it workss - partitions can get very messed up very quickly but again,
> follow the instructions; personally I think that partitioning is
> pretty obvious but meh, each to there own - you won't kill anything so
> give it a go.
>
>  I have the installation disks that came with my Macbook so I'm  
> assuming
> that's Leopard?  What's the difference, tech-wise, between that and
> the other version they mentioned on the site?
> The one that i'm guessing they mensioned is a modified version of
> leopard - ie: not the disks that came with your mb. You would have to
> learn how to use bit torrent, download and then burn the os they are
> speaking about and do it like that.
> Can it work on any netbook with similar specs?
> no! as I said ^, don't be the first to try it, be sure someones done  
> it before.
> Does it still have VoiceOver on it?
> yes, talking install might not work; on some netbooks the headphone
> port or the speakers might not work.
> what would I need to do differently if I used my copy, cause he still
> talked about using a modified version, even though he chose a licensed
> copy.
> He's being sneaky to try and avoid a few grey airias of the apple
> licencing agreement. He's not actually using original leopard disks;
> he's using the hacked version and purchasing a leopard licence for
> that hacked version; in other words, he's using a hacked version,
> going out and buying a set of leopard disks and then not putting the
> lajit disks anywhere nere his netbook.
> Now say I got an Acer - Aspire One Netbook with Intel® Atom™ Processor
> N270 (either with the 120 or 160 gb hard drive and the six-cell
> battery, unless there's a better one under 9 inches and under $350
> tops out there).  Would I need to get special drivers for the netbook?
> Perhaps, but if its been done before then that shouldn't be a problem.
> I have an external cd/dvd rom drive and am wondering if I could just
> hook it up to the usb port on the netbook or would I need to get a
> drive specifically for that brand?  It did work on my desktop without
> me installing any drivers, so I don't see why not.
> Yes, should work fine in osx, windows or what ever you want to put  
> on it.
> What did he mean when he talked about having to get a wireless card.
> The Acer would
> one built-in and I have broadband from Verizon.  Would I still need to
> get a special card or would it recognise my connection like the Mac
> does?
> No, in that case, it wouldn't be able to use your wireless, you'd
> either have to get a different card or not use wireless at all. Unless
> I am mistakened, the only cards that work in this situation are mini
> pci ones, so you'd have to open your new pet up and void its worranty.
> I'd still do it; sounds like it could be fun.
>  Thanks.
>
> On 04/04/2009, Tiffany D  wrote:
>>
>> I went on Google and typed in "install leopard netbook" without the
>> quotes.  the first site in the results is the one to which I'm
>> referring.  I'm wondering if anyone has done this or if you think it
>> would be successful/easy for me to do.  Let's keep it hypothetical to
>> avoid legal drama.  Keep in mind that I don't have any experience  
>> with
>> terminal or partitioning etc and the first parts of the installation
>> probably wouldn't use sound, since the author said he installed that
>> driver later.  I would be relying on sighted assistance from someone

Re: Software Update Problems - Please help

[linson]

if you don't remember setting one up then just press enter and see if  
that works, otherwise if you have time machine i would reinstall mac  
OS and then use time machine to back everything up.
On Apr 3, 2009, at 1:34 PM, rayna424 wrote:

>
> Hi Guys. I keep getting a message that software updates are available.
> But it asks me for a password, and I don't remember setting one up. Is
> there a way to search for it somewhere?
>
> Thanks,
> Randi
> >


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Re: Installing Leopard on a Netbook

[ben mustill-rose]

Wow, lots of questions, here goes:
I went on Google and typed in "install leopard netbook" without the
quotes.  the first site in the results is the one to which I'm
referring.  I'm wondering if anyone has done this or if you think it
would be successful/easy for me to do.  Let's keep it hypothetical to
avoid legal drama.  Keep in mind that I don't have any experience with
terminal or partitioning etc and the first parts of the installation
probably wouldn't use sound, since the author said he installed that
driver later.  I would be relying on sighted assistance from someone
who's not too technically-oriented but who can follow instructions if
they're clear.  The first site made sense but one of the links on it
got very technical so my head is spinning.  The one thing I doubt I
need to worry about is resolution since I can't see it anyway.
Follow the instructions and you should be fine; just make sure that
someones done it on the aspire before you get one so you can be sure
it workss - partitions can get very messed up very quickly but again,
follow the instructions; personally I think that partitioning is
pretty obvious but meh, each to there own - you won't kill anything so
give it a go.

  I have the installation disks that came with my Macbook so I'm assuming
that's Leopard?  What's the difference, tech-wise, between that and
the other version they mentioned on the site?
The one that i'm guessing they mensioned is a modified version of
leopard - ie: not the disks that came with your mb. You would have to
learn how to use bit torrent, download and then burn the os they are
speaking about and do it like that.
 Can it work on any netbook with similar specs?
no! as I said ^, don't be the first to try it, be sure someones done it before.
 Does it still have VoiceOver on it?
yes, talking install might not work; on some netbooks the headphone
port or the speakers might not work.
 what would I need to do differently if I used my copy, cause he still
talked about using a modified version, even though he chose a licensed
copy.
He's being sneaky to try and avoid a few grey airias of the apple
licencing agreement. He's not actually using original leopard disks;
he's using the hacked version and purchasing a leopard licence for
that hacked version; in other words, he's using a hacked version,
going out and buying a set of leopard disks and then not putting the
lajit disks anywhere nere his netbook.
Now say I got an Acer - Aspire One Netbook with Intel® Atom™ Processor
N270 (either with the 120 or 160 gb hard drive and the six-cell
battery, unless there's a better one under 9 inches and under $350
tops out there).  Would I need to get special drivers for the netbook?
Perhaps, but if its been done before then that shouldn't be a problem.
 I have an external cd/dvd rom drive and am wondering if I could just
hook it up to the usb port on the netbook or would I need to get a
drive specifically for that brand?  It did work on my desktop without
me installing any drivers, so I don't see why not.
Yes, should work fine in osx, windows or what ever you want to put on it.
 What did he mean when he talked about having to get a wireless card.
The Acer would
one built-in and I have broadband from Verizon.  Would I still need to
get a special card or would it recognise my connection like the Mac
does?
No, in that case, it wouldn't be able to use your wireless, you'd
either have to get a different card or not use wireless at all. Unless
I am mistakened, the only cards that work in this situation are mini
pci ones, so you'd have to open your new pet up and void its worranty.
I'd still do it; sounds like it could be fun.
  Thanks.

On 04/04/2009, Tiffany D  wrote:
>
> I went on Google and typed in "install leopard netbook" without the
> quotes.  the first site in the results is the one to which I'm
> referring.  I'm wondering if anyone has done this or if you think it
> would be successful/easy for me to do.  Let's keep it hypothetical to
> avoid legal drama.  Keep in mind that I don't have any experience with
> terminal or partitioning etc and the first parts of the installation
> probably wouldn't use sound, since the author said he installed that
> driver later.  I would be relying on sighted assistance from someone
> who's not too technically-oriented but who can follow instructions if
> they're clear.  The first site made sense but one of the links on it
> got very technical so my head is spinning.  The one thing I doubt I
> need to worry about is resolution since I can't see it anyway.  I have
> the installation disks that came with my Macbook so I'm assuming
> that's Leopard?  What's the difference, tech-wise, between that and
> the other version they mentioned on the site?  Can it work on any
> netbook with similar specs?  Does it still have VoiceOver on it?  what
> would I need to do differently if I used my copy, cause he still
> talked about using a modified version, even though he chose a licensed
> copy.
>
> Now say I

Installing Leopard on a Netbook

[Tiffany D]

I went on Google and typed in "install leopard netbook" without the
quotes.  the first site in the results is the one to which I'm
referring.  I'm wondering if anyone has done this or if you think it
would be successful/easy for me to do.  Let's keep it hypothetical to
avoid legal drama.  Keep in mind that I don't have any experience with
terminal or partitioning etc and the first parts of the installation
probably wouldn't use sound, since the author said he installed that
driver later.  I would be relying on sighted assistance from someone
who's not too technically-oriented but who can follow instructions if
they're clear.  The first site made sense but one of the links on it
got very technical so my head is spinning.  The one thing I doubt I
need to worry about is resolution since I can't see it anyway.  I have
the installation disks that came with my Macbook so I'm assuming
that's Leopard?  What's the difference, tech-wise, between that and
the other version they mentioned on the site?  Can it work on any
netbook with similar specs?  Does it still have VoiceOver on it?  what
would I need to do differently if I used my copy, cause he still
talked about using a modified version, even though he chose a licensed
copy.

Now say I got an Acer - Aspire One Netbook with Intel® Atom™ Processor
N270 (either with the 120 or 160 gb hard drive and the six-cell
battery, unless there's a better one under 9 inches and under $350
tops out there).  Would I need to get special drivers for the netbook?
 I have an external cd/dvd rom drive and am wondering if I could just
hook it up to the usb port on the netbook or would I need to get a
drive specifically for that brand?  It did work on my desktop without
me installing any drivers, so I don't see why not.  What did he mean
when he talked about having to get a wireless card.  The Acer would
one built-in and I have broadband from Verizon.  Would I still need to
get a special card or would it recognise my connection like the Mac
does?  Thanks.

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Re: Software Update Problems - Please help

[rayna424]

Thanks guys. I think I'll try the hitting return next time software
update pops up. All the disk stuff flew way over my head. Hopefullyj
return works.

Thanks,
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Re: Software Update Problems - Please help

[Scott Howell]

Justin it all Leopard install DVDs regardless of whether you purchased  
it or if it came with your machine will have this capability. Actually  
the DVD you get with your machine is the same if you were to purchase  
it separately minus the iLife suite and any of the other trial or demo  
software, which I can't even remember at this point. :)
On Apr 3, 2009, at 6:12 PM, Justin Harford wrote:

>
> Hello
>
> If it happens that you wrote a password and forgot it, you might just
> be able to rewrite it.
>
> OK someone else should comment on this too.  So I know if you have the
> leopard installation CD there is a way to boot into the system through
> the disk and change the password.
>
> Put CD in computer
> Cmd option C to open computer view in finder, go under the CD drive,
> start the app file, should say something like " install os x.app"
> It prompts you to restart the computer and you say yes
> The computer restarts, you hear the apple boot up chord, and the cd
> spins around for a while.  When it stops spinning, press cmd f5 and VO
> should come on.
> Go to the utilities menu VO M
> under that there should be something like "password utility" or
> "change password" etc
> Open that and it gives you a dialog where you can enter in a new admin
> password without knowing the old one.
>
> I'm not entirely sure if your restoration CD that came with your
> computer would have this though I would imagine so.
>
> Regards
>
> Justin Harford
>
> "Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already
> tomorrow in Australia." Charles Schultz, creator of the Peanuts comic
> strip.
>
> On 03/04/2009, at 14:35, rayna424 wrote:
>
>>
>> I realize that, but I don't remember if I set up a password,  
>> therefore
>> I don't know the password. I'll try hitting enter next time though I
>> think when I selected the restart it asked for the passwrod.
>>
>> The second part of my question was, is there a place to look up the
>> password if I did set one?
>>
>> I've only been a Mac user for a few months, and was so excited the
>> night I brought it home that I don't remember setting up a password.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Randi
>>>
>
>
> >


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Re: Software Update Problems - Please help

[Justin Harford]

Hello

If it happens that you wrote a password and forgot it, you might just  
be able to rewrite it.

OK someone else should comment on this too.  So I know if you have the  
leopard installation CD there is a way to boot into the system through  
the disk and change the password.

Put CD in computer
Cmd option C to open computer view in finder, go under the CD drive,  
start the app file, should say something like " install os x.app"
It prompts you to restart the computer and you say yes
The computer restarts, you hear the apple boot up chord, and the cd  
spins around for a while.  When it stops spinning, press cmd f5 and VO  
should come on.
Go to the utilities menu VO M
under that there should be something like "password utility" or  
"change password" etc
Open that and it gives you a dialog where you can enter in a new admin  
password without knowing the old one.

I'm not entirely sure if your restoration CD that came with your  
computer would have this though I would imagine so.

Regards

Justin Harford

"Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already  
tomorrow in Australia." Charles Schultz, creator of the Peanuts comic  
strip.

On 03/04/2009, at 14:35, rayna424 wrote:

>
> I realize that, but I don't remember if I set up a password, therefore
> I don't know the password. I'll try hitting enter next time though I
> think when I selected the restart it asked for the passwrod.
>
> The second part of my question was, is there a place to look up the
> password if I did set one?
>
> I've only been a Mac user for a few months, and was so excited the
> night I brought it home that I don't remember setting up a password.
>
> Thanks,
> Randi
> >


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Re: Software Update Problems - Please help

[patrickneazer]

Hello Randi and all:

There might be a chance that no password at all was set in the  
beginning. When prompted, try simply pressing return and see what  
happens. I cannot make any promises though that is what happened to me  
when I purchased my last Mac mini. It was previously owned by someone  
else and I was prompted with the password. Not knowing it I summoned  
the Mac store where I bought it. They suggested enter and poof ...  
success.

Good luck.


On Apr 3, 2009, at 4:47 PM, chantel cuddemi wrote:

>
> When you are in the software update window, you must enter the
> password you set up when you registered th operating system.
> Hth,
> Chantel.
> On Apr 3, 2009, at 4:34 PM, rayna424 wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Guys. I keep getting a message that software updates are  
>> available.
>> But it asks me for a password, and I don't remember setting one up.  
>> Is
>> there a way to search for it somewhere?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Randi
>>>
>
>
> >

Take good care and I wish you enough.



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Re: Software Update Problems - Please help

[rayna424]

I realize that, but I don't remember if I set up a password, therefore
I don't know the password. I'll try hitting enter next time though I
think when I selected the restart it asked for the passwrod.

The second part of my question was, is there a place to look up the
password if I did set one?

I've only been a Mac user for a few months, and was so excited the
night I brought it home that I don't remember setting up a password.

Thanks,
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Re: Huge Problem with Keys

[Tiffany D]

Well, I don't want to have to lug around a wireless keyboard as I
prefer everything built-in.  But for testing, it can't be that bad.  I
have a wireless keyboard but it's probably not Mac-compatible.  I
tried installing Leopard with my mother, who is literally just getting
into computers, and despite her best efforts, we couldn't get it to
work.  The Macbook would just start up with Skype and everything, even
when I put the disk in as it turned on.  She and I heard it ask if we
wanted to install only the bundled software but of course, that's not
what I wanted.  It was tricky trying to get her to open things cause
she's so new at this and not learning on a Mac and we couldn't figure
out how to get the cd to start on it's own so we just gave up.
Tomorrow, I'm having another sighted friend come over here.  He's
slightly better than Mom at the computer so maybe, we can figure it
out.  What am I missing?  I thought the Leopard installation was
supposed to be accessible?  If it really is the keyboard, maybe I'll
just have him delete my documents and other personal information and
then hsend it to Apple.

On 03/04/2009, chantel cuddemi  wrote:
>
> Yes, if you get a wireless usb keyboard, you should be fine.
> On Apr 3, 2009, at 4:46 AM, Mark Baxter wrote:
>
>>
>> It sounds like a keyboard issue and not an OS issue.  Why reinstall at
>> all, why not just get a new keyboard, or use a USB keyboard?
>>
>>
>> Mark BurningHawk
>>
>> Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
>> MSN:  burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
>> My home page:
>> http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
>>
>>
>> >
>
>
> >
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Re: Software Update Problems - Please help

[chantel cuddemi]

When you are in the software update window, you must enter the  
password you set up when you registered th operating system.
Hth,
Chantel.
On Apr 3, 2009, at 4:34 PM, rayna424 wrote:

>
> Hi Guys. I keep getting a message that software updates are available.
> But it asks me for a password, and I don't remember setting one up. Is
> there a way to search for it somewhere?
>
> Thanks,
> Randi
> >


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Re: Software Update Problems - Please help

[Brandon Misch]

well, if it asks you for a password and you didn't set one hit, just  
hit enter.

On Apr 3, 2009, at 4:34 PM, rayna424 wrote:

>
> Hi Guys. I keep getting a message that software updates are available.
> But it asks me for a password, and I don't remember setting one up. Is
> there a way to search for it somewhere?
>
> Thanks,
> Randi
> >


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Software Update Problems - Please help

[rayna424]

Hi Guys. I keep getting a message that software updates are available.
But it asks me for a password, and I don't remember setting one up. Is
there a way to search for it somewhere?

Thanks,
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Re: New URL for Louis, DTBmaker

[Greg Kearney]

What is the difference between these two tables? I also made the last  
letter of one into a standard u to make it simpler to handle in the  
program.

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On Apr 3, 2009, at 10:13 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:

> Hi,
> Greg,
>
> Here they are. Unfortunately I can't figure out what John said about
> them needing proofreading, but I've done my best.
>
>
> >
> 
>
> Thanks,
> Alex,
>
>
> On 3-Apr-09, at 8:34 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:
>
>>
>> Send it to me and I'll put it onto the page.
>>
>> Greg Kearney
>> 535 S. Jackson St.
>> Casper, Wyoming 82601
>> 307-224-4022
>> gkear...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 3, 2009, at 9:25 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> Greg.
>>>
>>> I did the table for Libloui already. At least the grade 1 because
>>> grade 2 is still under revision.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Alex,
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3-Apr-09, at 5:07 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:
>>>

 Not yet we need to find someone who knows Kurdish Braille to make a
 table for us.

 Greg Kearney
 535 S. Jackson St.
 Casper, Wyoming 82601
 307-224-4022
 gkear...@gmail.com



 On Apr 2, 2009, at 11:41 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> Is the Kurdish Braille Table in there yet.
>
> Thanks,
> Alex,
>
>
> On 2-Apr-09, at 7:24 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:
>
>>
>> Please not the following URL changes for Louis Braille Translator
>> and
>> DTBmaker persons having links to these programs from web pages
>> should
>> update their pages as needed.
>>
>> Louis: http://www.cucat.org/projects/louis
>> DTBmaker: http://www.cucat.org/projects/dtbmaker
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Greg Kearney
>> 535 S. Jackson St.
>> Casper, Wyoming 82601
>> 307-224-4022
>> gkear...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
>>


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Re: New URL for Louis, DTBmaker

[Alex Jurgensen]

Hi,

No, there is a directory.

I'm sorry. A little explanation would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Alex,


On 3-Apr-09, at 9:17 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:

>
> Have you tried these out by putting them into the directory with the
> other tables?
>
> Greg Kearney
> 535 S. Jackson St.
> Casper, Wyoming 82601
> 307-224-4022
> gkear...@gmail.com
>
>
>
> On Apr 3, 2009, at 10:13 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> Greg,
>>
>> Here they are. Unfortunately I can't figure out what John said about
>> them needing proofreading, but I've done my best.
>>
>>
>>>
>> 
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Alex,
>>
>>
>> On 3-Apr-09, at 8:34 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Send it to me and I'll put it onto the page.
>>>
>>> Greg Kearney
>>> 535 S. Jackson St.
>>> Casper, Wyoming 82601
>>> 307-224-4022
>>> gkear...@gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 3, 2009, at 9:25 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
>>>

 Hi,
 Greg.

 I did the table for Libloui already. At least the grade 1 because
 grade 2 is still under revision.

 Thanks,
 Alex,


 On 3-Apr-09, at 5:07 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:

>
> Not yet we need to find someone who knows Kurdish Braille to  
> make a
> table for us.
>
> Greg Kearney
> 535 S. Jackson St.
> Casper, Wyoming 82601
> 307-224-4022
> gkear...@gmail.com
>
>
>
> On Apr 2, 2009, at 11:41 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Is the Kurdish Braille Table in there yet.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Alex,
>>
>>
>> On 2-Apr-09, at 7:24 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Please not the following URL changes for Louis Braille  
>>> Translator
>>> and
>>> DTBmaker persons having links to these programs from web pages
>>> should
>>> update their pages as needed.
>>>
>>> Louis: http://www.cucat.org/projects/louis
>>> DTBmaker: http://www.cucat.org/projects/dtbmaker
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Greg Kearney
>>> 535 S. Jackson St.
>>> Casper, Wyoming 82601
>>> 307-224-4022
>>> gkear...@gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>>
>
>
>>


>
>>>
>>>
>>> >>>
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Re: New URL for Louis, DTBmaker

[Greg Kearney]

Have you tried these out by putting them into the directory with the  
other tables?

Greg Kearney
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On Apr 3, 2009, at 10:13 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:

> Hi,
> Greg,
>
> Here they are. Unfortunately I can't figure out what John said about
> them needing proofreading, but I've done my best.
>
>
> >
> 
>
> Thanks,
> Alex,
>
>
> On 3-Apr-09, at 8:34 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:
>
>>
>> Send it to me and I'll put it onto the page.
>>
>> Greg Kearney
>> 535 S. Jackson St.
>> Casper, Wyoming 82601
>> 307-224-4022
>> gkear...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 3, 2009, at 9:25 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> Greg.
>>>
>>> I did the table for Libloui already. At least the grade 1 because
>>> grade 2 is still under revision.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Alex,
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3-Apr-09, at 5:07 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:
>>>

 Not yet we need to find someone who knows Kurdish Braille to make a
 table for us.

 Greg Kearney
 535 S. Jackson St.
 Casper, Wyoming 82601
 307-224-4022
 gkear...@gmail.com



 On Apr 2, 2009, at 11:41 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> Is the Kurdish Braille Table in there yet.
>
> Thanks,
> Alex,
>
>
> On 2-Apr-09, at 7:24 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:
>
>>
>> Please not the following URL changes for Louis Braille Translator
>> and
>> DTBmaker persons having links to these programs from web pages
>> should
>> update their pages as needed.
>>
>> Louis: http://www.cucat.org/projects/louis
>> DTBmaker: http://www.cucat.org/projects/dtbmaker
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Greg Kearney
>> 535 S. Jackson St.
>> Casper, Wyoming 82601
>> 307-224-4022
>> gkear...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
>>


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Re: New URL for Louis, DTBmaker

[Alex Jurgensen]

Hi,
Greg,

Here they are. Unfortunately I can't figure out what John said about  
them needing proofreading, but I've done my best.


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Ku-Yekgirtû-grade1.ctb.
Description: Binary data


Ku-Hawar-Grade-1.ctb
Description: Binary data


Thanks,
Alex,


On 3-Apr-09, at 8:34 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:

>
> Send it to me and I'll put it onto the page.
>
> Greg Kearney
> 535 S. Jackson St.
> Casper, Wyoming 82601
> 307-224-4022
> gkear...@gmail.com
>
>
>
> On Apr 3, 2009, at 9:25 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>> Greg.
>>
>> I did the table for Libloui already. At least the grade 1 because
>> grade 2 is still under revision.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Alex,
>>
>>
>> On 3-Apr-09, at 5:07 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Not yet we need to find someone who knows Kurdish Braille to make a
>>> table for us.
>>>
>>> Greg Kearney
>>> 535 S. Jackson St.
>>> Casper, Wyoming 82601
>>> 307-224-4022
>>> gkear...@gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 2, 2009, at 11:41 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
>>>

 Hi,

 Is the Kurdish Braille Table in there yet.

 Thanks,
 Alex,


 On 2-Apr-09, at 7:24 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:

>
> Please not the following URL changes for Louis Braille Translator
> and
> DTBmaker persons having links to these programs from web pages
> should
> update their pages as needed.
>
> Louis: http://www.cucat.org/projects/louis
> DTBmaker: http://www.cucat.org/projects/dtbmaker
>
> Thank you.
>
> Greg Kearney
> 535 S. Jackson St.
> Casper, Wyoming 82601
> 307-224-4022
> gkear...@gmail.com
>
>
>
>
>>


>
>>>
>>>

>>
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Re: Huge Problem with Keys

[chantel cuddemi]

Yes, if you get a wireless usb keyboard, you should be fine.
On Apr 3, 2009, at 4:46 AM, Mark Baxter wrote:

>
> It sounds like a keyboard issue and not an OS issue.  Why reinstall at
> all, why not just get a new keyboard, or use a USB keyboard?
>
>
> Mark BurningHawk
>
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> My home page:
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Re: New URL for Louis, DTBmaker

[Greg Kearney]

Send it to me and I'll put it onto the page.

Greg Kearney
535 S. Jackson St.
Casper, Wyoming 82601
307-224-4022
gkear...@gmail.com



On Apr 3, 2009, at 9:25 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:

>
> Hi,
> Greg.
>
> I did the table for Libloui already. At least the grade 1 because
> grade 2 is still under revision.
>
> Thanks,
> Alex,
>
>
> On 3-Apr-09, at 5:07 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:
>
>>
>> Not yet we need to find someone who knows Kurdish Braille to make a
>> table for us.
>>
>> Greg Kearney
>> 535 S. Jackson St.
>> Casper, Wyoming 82601
>> 307-224-4022
>> gkear...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 2, 2009, at 11:41 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Is the Kurdish Braille Table in there yet.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Alex,
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2-Apr-09, at 7:24 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:
>>>

 Please not the following URL changes for Louis Braille Translator
 and
 DTBmaker persons having links to these programs from web pages
 should
 update their pages as needed.

 Louis: http://www.cucat.org/projects/louis
 DTBmaker: http://www.cucat.org/projects/dtbmaker

 Thank you.

 Greg Kearney
 535 S. Jackson St.
 Casper, Wyoming 82601
 307-224-4022
 gkear...@gmail.com




>
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>>>

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Re: New URL for Louis, DTBmaker

[Alex Jurgensen]

Hi,
Greg.

I did the table for Libloui already. At least the grade 1 because  
grade 2 is still under revision.

Thanks,
Alex,


On 3-Apr-09, at 5:07 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:

>
> Not yet we need to find someone who knows Kurdish Braille to make a
> table for us.
>
> Greg Kearney
> 535 S. Jackson St.
> Casper, Wyoming 82601
> 307-224-4022
> gkear...@gmail.com
>
>
>
> On Apr 2, 2009, at 11:41 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Is the Kurdish Braille Table in there yet.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Alex,
>>
>>
>> On 2-Apr-09, at 7:24 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Please not the following URL changes for Louis Braille Translator  
>>> and
>>> DTBmaker persons having links to these programs from web pages  
>>> should
>>> update their pages as needed.
>>>
>>> Louis: http://www.cucat.org/projects/louis
>>> DTBmaker: http://www.cucat.org/projects/dtbmaker
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Greg Kearney
>>> 535 S. Jackson St.
>>> Casper, Wyoming 82601
>>> 307-224-4022
>>> gkear...@gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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Re: Huge Problem with Keys

[Alex Jurgensen]

Hi,

About 80 $ US if you do it yourself or get a trusty friend to do it.  
Hold on, not on a Macbook. They usually charge $40 to fix things,  
Unless you buy a keyboard on EBay.

Thanks,
Alex,


On 3-Apr-09, at 4:10 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

>
> Mark, I agree that testing with another keyboard is the first step if
> this has not been done. It may be that replacing the keyboard on the
> laptop might not be to expensive. Certainly worth asking the local
> Apple store about.
> On Apr 3, 2009, at 4:46 AM, Mark Baxter wrote:
>
>>
>> It sounds like a keyboard issue and not an OS issue.  Why reinstall  
>> at
>> all, why not just get a new keyboard, or use a USB keyboard?
>>
>>
>> Mark BurningHawk
>>
>> Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
>> MSN:  burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
>> My home page:
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Re: Looking for Headphones

[Alex Jurgensen]

Hi,

Get a small washer and stick it on the Port with some glue. That is  
what happned to my IBook.

Thanks,
Alex,


On 2-Apr-09, at 11:41 AM, Tiffany D wrote:

>
> Awhile ago, I bought a pair of Plantronics headphones.  I forget the
> model but they're the kind with both the regular 3.5 in. plugs and a
> usb adaptor.  Anyway, the headphone port on my Macbook is near broken.
> I have to put the plug in just the right way to get it to work and if
> I put them in all the way the sound will come through the speaker.
> The same goes for the line-in, minus the speakers, though it's in
> slightly better shape.  These headphones are huge when it comes to
> portability.  I'm looking for either bluetooth, wireless or usb
> headphones that have a good stereo sound and are under $50.  I'd like
> them to be small enough to pack away if at all possible.  If they're
> usb I want the connection to be built-in not separate like on my
> Plantronics model.  It doesn't matter if they have a microphone.
> Thanks.
>
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Re: Huge Problem with Keys

[Fonzie]

Hi Tiffany.

I hope your doing well.

Sorry to hear about your keys.  The best thing to do would probably be  
to call Apple, or head into your local store, and have it checked out.

As far as keys go.  I take it the keys are for one license machine?   
In any case, you should be fine.  With my experience, I wanted to see  
the installation of Leopard myself, so I wiped my mac clean with a new  
install, and just simply reinstalled the programs I had licensed, such  
as Audio HiJack, and Amadeus Pro, and I was on my way to using my  
computer again.  I do not think you will have any problems with  
registering your products again.  The serial you will be using for  
your copy of leopard is the same, so there should not be any trouble.

Unless, your serials are different, than I suppose you could run into  
trouble.  I do not believe so though.  Just setup your mac as you did  
before, with the credentials you gave before, if you would feel safer.

In any case, just make sure you have your information regarding the  
products you want to register.  The only one I am unsure of is InfoVox  
IVox.

I am sure someone will jump in about that when they can.  If it is  
just a general serial, then you should be fine.



I hope this helps.

Fonzie



On Apr 3, 2009, at 1:14 AM, Tiffany D wrote:

>
> As some of you might remember the right command key on my Macbook
> stopped working several months ago.  Stupid me, I never got it fixed
> and I was still under warrentee.  Well, now the a, q, z, 1 and delete
> keys no longer work.  Thank The Gods, I was able to save my important
> work etc to my external hard disk before that stopped being
> recognised.  I restarted several times and the situation is still the
> same.  Needless to say, I'm writing this with the XP machine.
> Tomorrow, I'm gonna reinstall Leopard and hope that fixes the problem.
> I also hope that the cd rom drive and the eject button will work or
> I'll be stuck in the middle of an install and have no way to finish
> it.  Ihave no idea how much Apple would charge to fix such a thing.
> To make matters worse, I have my registered copy of the Dimitris voice
> for InfoVox IVox and also a program called TapeDeck on there.  So what
> will happen to my licenses?  Can I write to the companies and explain
> my situation?  I don't want to reinstall these things and have the
> registration get sent to them again and then get in trouble cause they
> think I have it on two machines.  Any help, advice or shared
> experiences would be appreciated.
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Re: New URL for Louis, DTBmaker

[Greg Kearney]

Not yet we need to find someone who knows Kurdish Braille to make a  
table for us.

Greg Kearney
535 S. Jackson St.
Casper, Wyoming 82601
307-224-4022
gkear...@gmail.com



On Apr 2, 2009, at 11:41 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> Is the Kurdish Braille Table in there yet.
>
> Thanks,
> Alex,
>
>
> On 2-Apr-09, at 7:24 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:
>
>>
>> Please not the following URL changes for Louis Braille Translator and
>> DTBmaker persons having links to these programs from web pages should
>> update their pages as needed.
>>
>> Louis: http://www.cucat.org/projects/louis
>> DTBmaker: http://www.cucat.org/projects/dtbmaker
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Greg Kearney
>> 535 S. Jackson St.
>> Casper, Wyoming 82601
>> 307-224-4022
>> gkear...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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Re: Huge Problem with Keys

[Scott Howell]

Mark, I agree that testing with another keyboard is the first step if  
this has not been done. It may be that replacing the keyboard on the  
laptop might not be to expensive. Certainly worth asking the local  
Apple store about.
On Apr 3, 2009, at 4:46 AM, Mark Baxter wrote:

>
> It sounds like a keyboard issue and not an OS issue.  Why reinstall at
> all, why not just get a new keyboard, or use a USB keyboard?
>
>
> Mark BurningHawk
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Re: VO and Toast Titanium or others...

[Scott Howell]

Yes, Toast since version 7.01, which is what I had tried initially was  
not at all friendly to use. Simply Burns is one choice and Dragon Burn  
is a second choice and it does cost you money, but is a very good  
program as well.
On Apr 2, 2009, at 7:51 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

>
> You might try simply burns, it works well. Toast does have some  
> issues, a
> lot of the controls are just described as unknown. Apparently the  
> same thing
> happens with version 10 as well.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mike" 
> To: "MacVisionaries" 
> Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 8:48 AM
> Subject: VO and Toast Titanium or others...
>
>
>>
>> Hi all:
>>
>> Is there anyway to have VO access the cd/dvd type tabs in Toast
>> Titanium 9 and above?
>> Perhaps someone may know of another cd/dvd burning program more  
>> suited
>> for VO.
>>
>> TNX:
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>>
>>
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>
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Re: Huge Problem with Keys

[Mark Baxter]

It sounds like a keyboard issue and not an OS issue.  Why reinstall at  
all, why not just get a new keyboard, or use a USB keyboard?


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