Re: videos on the mac
If they cannot accommodate you with the flash version, ask for another accommodation such as an alternate assignment. On Nov 14, 2011, at 9:31 PM, Stephanie Mitchell wrote: Hi all, I am currently undertaking an online course. Over all it seems accessible, except I can't play the 2 part video it has. There's just no link to the videos at all, which makes me think it could be flash perhaps. Any ideas of a way around this issue, or what I should tell the staff who run the course to make it more accessible? Thanks. Steph -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: JetBlue vs Chrome
Well, my son just informed me that a revised website will roll out on December 9 for JetBlue. There may also be an iPhone app as well coming around the same time. What's unclear is whether accessibility issues will be addressed. Les On Nov 14, 2011, at 3:05 PM, Mika Pyyhkala wrote: Hi, There are known accessibility issues with the main JetBlue web site. You may be able to get parts of it to work with various browser and screen reader combinations, but other features may not work at all. One feature where there is no work around is the flash based check in. JetBlue is working on an internal accessibility initiative, but it still would be good for them to hear from blind consumers about the accessibility of the web site. You may want to tweet them @JetBlue if you are on Twitter, or contact them in a written form in some way. You should be able to book flights using http://mobile.jetblue.com (although if you use this site from an iPhone the language preference is set to Pollish) I believe for a promotion you can also use: http://mobile.jetblue.com/promo (for instance today there is a 20% off promo code) I think its all upper case 20FORYOU They also have a reservations special services Help Line available at 855-232-5463 (855-ADALine) where the agents will be familiar with waiving the booking fee for blind passengers with accessibility issues. These agents will also readily be able to book web fares if you have an accessibility issue. If you call the main 800-JetBlue phone number they likely won't be as familiar with accessibility issues or especially with booking web fares over the phone. Even if you book through the special services desk, you can tell them you do not want a special service request SSR in your record. If you have an SSR in your record it flags you in their system as being blind, and it also prevents you from using the online check in. Much of my work in the NFB has to do with airline issues, and I regularly work with the DOT and the various airlines. There is an NPRM right now having to do with airline web site and kiosk accessibility which DOT is seeking public comment on. Best, Mika Pyyhkala @pyyhkala On 11/14/11, Jonathan C. Cohn jon.c.c...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I was having some difficulty with the popup choices presented by the JetBlue website when using Webkit, and since I have heard wonderful praises from Kevin about chrome, I decided to give it a chance to make the site work. I got to the first edit box, entered IAD (for Washington International Dulles Airport) and was told there was a table with Washington Dulles in it. I attempted to select on that link and chrome went into high CPU and Best wishes, Died. Can anybody successfully get flight searches to work from the JetBlue web site? Let me know what you did. Thanks, Jonathan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
more on speech recognition on the Mac
Hi all, I've been playing around again with speech recognition following Yuma's posts yesterday. My experience is that it seems to work about 3 out of ten times. Is this others experience? Yuma, you seem to be having a lot of success, did you tweak anything in the settings to improve recognition? I'm currently using the key press method, because when I tried to have it listen for a key word, I literally never got the Mac to respond. Best, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: more on speech recognition on the Mac
Hi Donna, I haven't looked at this in a while, but there is a button labelled calibrate in the speech recognition dialog. It should bring up a slider that you can move around until it is more accurate. I can't tell you what the slider does, just that that I moved it around until it was more accurate. Hope this helps. -Greg On Nov 15, 2011, at 8:10 AM, Goodin, Donna wrote: Hi all, I've been playing around again with speech recognition following Yuma's posts yesterday. My experience is that it seems to work about 3 out of ten times. Is this others experience? Yuma, you seem to be having a lot of success, did you tweak anything in the settings to improve recognition? I'm currently using the key press method, because when I tried to have it listen for a key word, I literally never got the Mac to respond. Best, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: more on speech recognition on the Mac
Hey Greg, Thanks! That seems to have done the trick. I hadn't messed with the calibration because I had no way to tell when it was set right, but the adjustment I made seems to have improved recognition significantly. Cheers, donna On Nov 15, 2011, at 10:12 AM, Greg Aikens wrote: Hi Donna, I haven't looked at this in a while, but there is a button labelled calibrate in the speech recognition dialog. It should bring up a slider that you can move around until it is more accurate. I can't tell you what the slider does, just that that I moved it around until it was more accurate. Hope this helps. -Greg On Nov 15, 2011, at 8:10 AM, Goodin, Donna wrote: Hi all, I've been playing around again with speech recognition following Yuma's posts yesterday. My experience is that it seems to work about 3 out of ten times. Is this others experience? Yuma, you seem to be having a lot of success, did you tweak anything in the settings to improve recognition? I'm currently using the key press method, because when I tried to have it listen for a key word, I literally never got the Mac to respond. Best, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Moderator assistance please
Hello, Would a moderator respond to me off list? I need some assistance. Thank you! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Stopwatch on the i-phone?
Is there a countdown timer on the i-phone. Could someone tell me where it is please. I have the 3Gs. Thanks. Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Nov 12, 2011, at 11:37 AM, Wendy Alling wrote: Hello all, Can someone give me some help with the audible app? I have it installed on my phone but can't find where to purchase a book using the app on the phone. I have an account but don't have a plan set up. Could that be the problem? Any tips would be most appreciated. Thanks. Wendy __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6623 (2012) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How do I get to mail from the doc quickly
Thank you Rachael. I hope you had a great weekend and have a great week. Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Nov 12, 2011, at 4:22 PM, Rachel magario wrote: Janny, I just created a shortcut to open mail for me in the voice over utilities under key board commanders. I chose the right option key to be my commander and I just do option m and that opens my mail, but you can choose whatever key you want. I thought this way it is super fast and I do only one short cut key instead of going to doc or to spot light search, although those are valid ways that I use for other applications I don't use as often as mail and safari. HTH, Rachel. On Nov 12, 2011, at 8:32 AM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: Thank you. Hope you have a great weekend. Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Nov 11, 2011, at 4:34 PM, Bill Holton wrote: Easiest way for me is to just press command space, type mail and press enter. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 3:41 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: How do I get to mail from the doc quickly Hi Jennifer, After you typed an M, if you wait a few seconds and type an A, you'll land on an app starting with the letter A. This is why you need to type successive letters quickly until you hear what you want to activate. Les On Nov 11, 2011, at 1:18 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: I try that and it goes to mission control and then something else that starts with an A. Am I doing something wrong? Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Nov 11, 2011, at 11:03 AM, Hai Nguyen Ly wrote: Jennifer, Just start typing in mail when you are in the dock and press enter when you hear VoiceOver say Mail. On Nov 11, 2011, at 11:52 AM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: When I go to the doc from lion I press M for mail and get mission control (Whatever that is), and then press A hoping it will go to mail. That doesn't work. How can I get to mail quicker than just arrowing to it. Thanks for your help. Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Nov 9, 2011, at 4:04 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: Karon, I have found that most PDF files are not readable using voiceover in OS X. this doesn't mean all of them are inaccessible, but it appears that a vast majority are imported graphic files in a container. as for captchas, I find them nearly impossible to solve, and some sites that have audio captchas, the audio will not play under safari and some others are severely distorted. couple this with the fact that mozilla firefox isn't accessible using voiceover, that certain captcha solving plugins are also inaccessible (and no such plugins are available for safari that I know of). since I am not a windows user, nor do I wish to spend large sums of money to do so, I am not inclined to use microsoft based products. This means that I am also limited in how I do some things on the net (especially where visually based security is concerned. -eric On Nov 8, 2011, at 4:57 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: Hi folks, For reasons that are complicated to explain I have the ear of the legal department at paypal -ebay. Part of the reason is that, as some of you may know, they are *requiring* all users to agree that that they read pdf files, or they will lose their account. Because of this and some other access issues with paypal and ebay, i have been asked to document why things like pdf and captcha are issues for those using adaptive tools. I have told them already that to assume everyone is using jaws is impractical, and that still browsers like lynx, with its recent edition dated June 2011, are good foundations for access. I have shared that pdf reaains a hurtle, and captcha is flat out an issue, as is stuff like flash. because they are serious though I want to make maximum use of this opportunity. What I would welcome is article information, places that discuss why pdf for example and captcha remain barriers. Likewise posts from you if you have met with issues with either service would be welcome. I want them to fix this for everyone, not just sweep me under the corporate rug. That they are shifting all document responsibility t the end user is disturbing, since if you have an issue say with security, you will bare the blame for any discrepancies in documentation. Additionally, if part of your professional life is access, share under your professional umbrella. If I get enough research responses, i will construct a solid document for them, and include as many other people as I can. Thanks in advance, Karen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
Re: Stopwatch on the i-phone?
Hi Jennifer! You should have Utilities folder and in there should be Clock! Open it and there should be 4 tabs at the bottom world clock, alarm, stop watch and timer! hth Colin On 15 Nov 2011, at 15:37, Jennifer Perdue wrote: Is there a countdown timer on the i-phone. Could someone tell me where it is please. I have the 3Gs. Thanks. Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Nov 12, 2011, at 11:37 AM, Wendy Alling wrote: Hello all, Can someone give me some help with the audible app? I have it installed on my phone but can't find where to purchase a book using the app on the phone. I have an account but don't have a plan set up. Could that be the problem? Any tips would be most appreciated. Thanks. Wendy __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6623 (2012) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
How to delete messages in my mail on my iPhone
Hello everyone, I have recently purchased an iPhone and I must say things are going very well. I find it all very intuitive, in fact I'm dictating this message to Siri so hopefully there are not too many errors. Anyway, one thing that I haven't worked out how to do yet is how to delete messages in mail. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thank you Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How do I get to mail from the doc quickly
Thank you. That works well. Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Nov 12, 2011, at 9:36 PM, Johnny Angel! wrote: Hi Jenny, Just quickly type the first two or three letters for the program you wish to navigate to. On Nov 11, 2011, at 11:52 AM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: When I go to the doc from lion I press M for mail and get mission control (Whatever that is), and then press A hoping it will go to mail. That doesn't work. How can I get to mail quicker than just arrowing to it. Thanks for your help. Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Nov 9, 2011, at 4:04 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: Karon, I have found that most PDF files are not readable using voiceover in OS X. this doesn't mean all of them are inaccessible, but it appears that a vast majority are imported graphic files in a container. as for captchas, I find them nearly impossible to solve, and some sites that have audio captchas, the audio will not play under safari and some others are severely distorted. couple this with the fact that mozilla firefox isn't accessible using voiceover, that certain captcha solving plugins are also inaccessible (and no such plugins are available for safari that I know of). since I am not a windows user, nor do I wish to spend large sums of money to do so, I am not inclined to use microsoft based products. This means that I am also limited in how I do some things on the net (especially where visually based security is concerned. -eric On Nov 8, 2011, at 4:57 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: Hi folks, For reasons that are complicated to explain I have the ear of the legal department at paypal -ebay. Part of the reason is that, as some of you may know, they are *requiring* all users to agree that that they read pdf files, or they will lose their account. Because of this and some other access issues with paypal and ebay, i have been asked to document why things like pdf and captcha are issues for those using adaptive tools. I have told them already that to assume everyone is using jaws is impractical, and that still browsers like lynx, with its recent edition dated June 2011, are good foundations for access. I have shared that pdf reaains a hurtle, and captcha is flat out an issue, as is stuff like flash. because they are serious though I want to make maximum use of this opportunity. What I would welcome is article information, places that discuss why pdf for example and captcha remain barriers. Likewise posts from you if you have met with issues with either service would be welcome. I want them to fix this for everyone, not just sweep me under the corporate rug. That they are shifting all document responsibility t the end user is disturbing, since if you have an issue say with security, you will bare the blame for any discrepancies in documentation. Additionally, if part of your professional life is access, share under your professional umbrella. If I get enough research responses, i will construct a solid document for them, and include as many other people as I can. Thanks in advance, Karen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Johnny Angel! beefca...@neo.rr.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Facebook
Is Facebook accessable? I've never used it. Any suggestions? Just curious. Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Nov 13, 2011, at 12:27 AM, Rahul Bajaj wrote: David, Your suggestion about that movie was too hilarious :P On my Windows laptop, the mobile site is working perfectly. I have been trying to use the mobile site on my Mac for a long time, but it always redirects me to the main site. Will the Facebook people do something about it if I write to them? Other mobile sites are working perfectly on my Mac. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Facebook
Hi. I use the mobile site. I think the main site is accessible, but i do not like the lay out of it at all. And it does seem that Facebook wants to change things on the site a little too often Sent from my MBP On Nov 15, 2011, at 10:02 AM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: Is Facebook accessable? I've never used it. Any suggestions? Just curious. Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Nov 13, 2011, at 12:27 AM, Rahul Bajaj wrote: David, Your suggestion about that movie was too hilarious :P On my Windows laptop, the mobile site is working perfectly. I have been trying to use the mobile site on my Mac for a long time, but it always redirects me to the main site. Will the Facebook people do something about it if I write to them? Other mobile sites are working perfectly on my Mac. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How to delete messages in my mail on my iPhone
There is an edit button towards the top right of the mail display. Double tap Edit and then double tap the messages you want to delete. You will notice that as you move through your messages they will be read as selected or unselected. When you are done selecting everything you want to delete, go to the bottom of the screen. There are several choices, such as move etc. but the one you want is delete. Hope this helps. -Greg On Nov 15, 2011, at 9:53 AM, David Eagle wrote: Hello everyone, I have recently purchased an iPhone and I must say things are going very well. I find it all very intuitive, in fact I'm dictating this message to Siri so hopefully there are not too many errors. Anyway, one thing that I haven't worked out how to do yet is how to delete messages in mail. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thank you Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Facebook
I use the mobile site also m.facebook.com and it filters out a lot of the more annoying ads, game messages, and so on, which make the main site so overwhelming. My only piece of advice would be to start with a few friends or fan pages and then add more as you get used to it. Kes - Original Message - From: Jennifer Perdue jlperd...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 11:02 AM Subject: Re: Facebook Is Facebook accessable? I've never used it. Any suggestions? Just curious. Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Nov 13, 2011, at 12:27 AM, Rahul Bajaj wrote: David, Your suggestion about that movie was too hilarious :P On my Windows laptop, the mobile site is working perfectly. I have been trying to use the mobile site on my Mac for a long time, but it always redirects me to the main site. Will the Facebook people do something about it if I write to them? Other mobile sites are working perfectly on my Mac. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Preparing for clean lion install
Mine does the same weird window thing at the beginning of the loading process when I turn my mac on but that's the only weird thing it does. It's not worth reinstalling lion over for me. I hope that will stay like that though. Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks, Oh yeah You can get out of that window but pressing command W On Nov 13, 2011, at 1:10 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: Hi! I have no idea why vo doesn't always speak it's welcome message; it almost always starts, but as I said, it's usually stuck in some weird window that doesn't exist, so I have to command tab before I can do anything; and I have no clue when it's OK to do that command tab since VO almost never says anything. I went through users and groups, but didn't find anything pertaining to vo. I'll look again, just in case I missed something, but since I'm not noticing any improvements, I don't know how much time I'll put into getting this fresh install up and running. The main thing I was curious about was if it would change/improve the way my pandora app read, and that did not improve in any way. Thanks for the help, though. I'll try to investigate things a little bit further. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 2:04 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Preparing for clean lion install Hi, The option you're looking for in System Preferences is Users Groups. Lion has made this option more in line with servers and other OS's that use that terminology. I'm not sure why your computer has the hit and miss when it comes to VO turning on automatically, I've only experienced this when a specific error message has circumvented VO from starting right away. In these cases, I just pressed cmd-f5, VO came on, I determined the error type and eliminated it so that VO behaved as it should. Later... On 2011-11-13, at 10:18 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote: Hello, all. I did the clean install of lion last night as planned, and so far, I must say that I think it was a complete waste of time. VO sspeaking at start-up is still hit or miss, and I now find myself stuck in something called T.I. switcher; basicly the exact same problem as the com.doc.apple.extra that existed when lion first came out. The system preferences window seems to have been completely rearranged, and I'm having trouble finding things: most noteably where I turn on the option for VO to speak log in windows. Since I don't have to log on, it wouldn't be a problem, but it becomes an issue if I'm installing updates that require the machine to be restarted. I've installed all of the newest updates, and I do intend to install a few apps just to say I've made a legitimate effort, but in retrospect, I should have left well enough alone. Thankfully, I cloned my SL drive before all this started, but so far, I'm very disappointed in the lack of difference between the upgrade of lion and the clean install. At least based on my experience so far, I have to agree with the folks at apple on this one; upgrading is better. If anyone could provide any insite on what I'm doing wrong and why lion is still such a tremendous disappointment, I would really appreciate it. For now, though, I'm off to find the install of CCC. I've got a feeling I'm going to need it in a few days. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 5:48 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Preparing for clean lion install The best thing you could do is install all the apps from scratch. After all if your going to go through all the trouble, you might as well start with a truly fresh system. Otherwise, you will be copying things by hand and you may not get everything necessary. If nothing else, you will have learned from the experience and that itself is worth the effort. Good luck, On Nov 12, 2011, at 5:32 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: Good evening, all. I'm highly skeptical that this is going to do any good, but just because I want to say I've made the effort, I'm getting ready to do a clean install of lion. While I'm doing all my prep work: cloning to external drives to make sure I don't lose anything, I'm going to listen to Mike's podcast on Lion. I just wanted to write to the group, though, because I'm curious how I'll go about putting back apps. Can I restore them from the cloned drives, or do I have to actually reinstall things? More than anything else, I'm concerned about the Acapella voices I purchased to use with my mac, but wouldn't mind tips about adium, skype and things of that nature. Also, how do I back up my Itunes purchases. Granted, I've only made two of them, but I don't want to lose them. What about Growl and Yorufukuru? Will I just
Re: Preparing for clean lion install
Hi, New to the mac so could you tell me where users and groups are? Thanks so much. Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Nov 13, 2011, at 2:21 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: Hi, In Users Groups, Interact with the Users, Groups and Login Options List, and navigate down to Login Options. stop Interacting With the List then navigate right until you locate the Use VoiceOver at Login checkbox. Sorry, I can't help with Pandora, I don't use it. Later... On 2011-11-13, at 12:10 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: Hi! I have no idea why vo doesn't always speak it's welcome message; it almost always starts, but as I said, it's usually stuck in some weird window that doesn't exist, so I have to command tab before I can do anything; and I have no clue when it's OK to do that command tab since VO almost never says anything. I went through users and groups, but didn't find anything pertaining to vo. I'll look again, just in case I missed something, but since I'm not noticing any improvements, I don't know how much time I'll put into getting this fresh install up and running. The main thing I was curious about was if it would change/improve the way my pandora app read, and that did not improve in any way. Thanks for the help, though. I'll try to investigate things a little bit further. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 2:04 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Preparing for clean lion install Hi, The option you're looking for in System Preferences is Users Groups. Lion has made this option more in line with servers and other OS's that use that terminology. I'm not sure why your computer has the hit and miss when it comes to VO turning on automatically, I've only experienced this when a specific error message has circumvented VO from starting right away. In these cases, I just pressed cmd-f5, VO came on, I determined the error type and eliminated it so that VO behaved as it should. Later... On 2011-11-13, at 10:18 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote: Hello, all. I did the clean install of lion last night as planned, and so far, I must say that I think it was a complete waste of time. VO sspeaking at start-up is still hit or miss, and I now find myself stuck in something called T.I. switcher; basicly the exact same problem as the com.doc.apple.extra that existed when lion first came out. The system preferences window seems to have been completely rearranged, and I'm having trouble finding things: most noteably where I turn on the option for VO to speak log in windows. Since I don't have to log on, it wouldn't be a problem, but it becomes an issue if I'm installing updates that require the machine to be restarted. I've installed all of the newest updates, and I do intend to install a few apps just to say I've made a legitimate effort, but in retrospect, I should have left well enough alone. Thankfully, I cloned my SL drive before all this started, but so far, I'm very disappointed in the lack of difference between the upgrade of lion and the clean install. At least based on my experience so far, I have to agree with the folks at apple on this one; upgrading is better. If anyone could provide any insite on what I'm doing wrong and why lion is still such a tremendous disappointment, I would really appreciate it. For now, though, I'm off to find the install of CCC. I've got a feeling I'm going to need it in a few days. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 5:48 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Preparing for clean lion install The best thing you could do is install all the apps from scratch. After all if your going to go through all the trouble, you might as well start with a truly fresh system. Otherwise, you will be copying things by hand and you may not get everything necessary. If nothing else, you will have learned from the experience and that itself is worth the effort. Good luck, On Nov 12, 2011, at 5:32 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: Good evening, all. I'm highly skeptical that this is going to do any good, but just because I want to say I've made the effort, I'm getting ready to do a clean install of lion. While I'm doing all my prep work: cloning to external drives to make sure I don't lose anything, I'm going to listen to Mike's podcast on Lion. I just wanted to write to the group, though, because I'm curious how I'll go about putting back apps. Can I restore them from the cloned drives, or do I have to actually reinstall things? More than anything else, I'm concerned about the Acapella voices I purchased to use with my mac, but wouldn't mind tips about adium, skype and things of that nature. Also, how do I back up
Re: Facebook
Hi Jenny, Yes, the mobile version of Facebook is very accessible. Even the main site used to work very well until Facebook decided to change its interface. The problem with the main site is that they constantly keep making unnecessary changes to it. Even sighted people don't like most of those ridiculous changes. So, I mostly use the mobile site. Cheers, Rahul -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Preparing for clean lion install
Hi! I think that if you hit U from within system preferences, you should be able to find it that way. Otherwise, just start tabbing around until you hear it. They totally changed the layout of system preferences, so it's easy to lose stuff. Speaking of which, since I wasn't noticing any benefits or performance improvements at all from the clean lion install I did over the weekend, I've decided to reinstall my updated version. I recognize that I need to start making myself learn lion, so will only run SL from an external drive when needed. It's just that for me, the clean install of lion was causing more trouble than it was worth, so if I have to put up with lion, I'm going to at least revert to a setup which more or less worked. The only thing I will definitely need to continue using SL for is creating spoken text audio files; no matter what I do, that faeture just doesn't work reliably under Lion, and when I did manage to get an mp3 under lion, it read out the line of underline characters which I use as section separaters in the file I need to make periodic mp3 versions of. That was never an issue under SL. So, I don't know what the problem is, but at least I have my external drive with SL that I can boot from whenever I need to. In the mean time, I suppose it's time to start trying to tame that pesky lion. (sigh) Good luck finding what you need to fix, and I hope that you're having a great day! Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jennifer Perdue Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 11:39 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Preparing for clean lion install Hi, New to the mac so could you tell me where users and groups are? Thanks so much. Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Nov 13, 2011, at 2:21 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: Hi, In Users Groups, Interact with the Users, Groups and Login Options List, and navigate down to Login Options. stop Interacting With the List then navigate right until you locate the Use VoiceOver at Login checkbox. Sorry, I can't help with Pandora, I don't use it. Later... On 2011-11-13, at 12:10 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: Hi! I have no idea why vo doesn't always speak it's welcome message; it almost always starts, but as I said, it's usually stuck in some weird window that doesn't exist, so I have to command tab before I can do anything; and I have no clue when it's OK to do that command tab since VO almost never says anything. I went through users and groups, but didn't find anything pertaining to vo. I'll look again, just in case I missed something, but since I'm not noticing any improvements, I don't know how much time I'll put into getting this fresh install up and running. The main thing I was curious about was if it would change/improve the way my pandora app read, and that did not improve in any way. Thanks for the help, though. I'll try to investigate things a little bit further. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 2:04 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Preparing for clean lion install Hi, The option you're looking for in System Preferences is Users Groups. Lion has made this option more in line with servers and other OS's that use that terminology. I'm not sure why your computer has the hit and miss when it comes to VO turning on automatically, I've only experienced this when a specific error message has circumvented VO from starting right away. In these cases, I just pressed cmd-f5, VO came on, I determined the error type and eliminated it so that VO behaved as it should. Later... On 2011-11-13, at 10:18 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote: Hello, all. I did the clean install of lion last night as planned, and so far, I must say that I think it was a complete waste of time. VO sspeaking at start-up is still hit or miss, and I now find myself stuck in something called T.I. switcher; basicly the exact same problem as the com.doc.apple.extra that existed when lion first came out. The system preferences window seems to have been completely rearranged, and I'm having trouble finding things: most noteably where I turn on the option for VO to speak log in windows. Since I don't have to log on, it wouldn't be a problem, but it becomes an issue if I'm installing updates that require the machine to be restarted. I've installed all of the newest updates, and I do intend to install a few apps just to say I've made a legitimate effort, but in retrospect, I should have left well enough alone. Thankfully, I cloned my SL drive before all this started, but so far, I'm very disappointed in the lack of difference between the upgrade of lion and the clean install. At least based on my experience so far, I have to agree with the folks at apple on this one; upgrading is
Deleting voice mail messages
Hello, Is there an easy way to delete voice mail messages from the phone? Thanks for any help. Wendy __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6632 (2015) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Drop Box
Dropbox is running in the background. Close that, then quit the dropbox process using Activity monitor in Utilities. Then run that file and you should be good to go. On 11/15/11, Kirsten Edmondson kirsten.edmond...@btinternet.com wrote: Hi, Today I managed to view package contents and I went to the Mac one and the Dropbox in there but when I open it I get the below message. I've switched off and restarted and get the same message, just with a different time, way am I doing wrong? Last login: Tue Nov 15 17:53:09 on console unknown-b8-8d-12-22-16-ac:~ kirstenedmondson$ /Applications/Dropbox.app/Contents/MacOS/Dropbox ; exit; Another instance of Dropbox (165) is running! logout [Process completed] -- I can't seem to get anything to press to get rid of it so can only close or quit. Any help would be appreciated, I'm know I'm being stupid about this and it must be easier than it's seeming, but it's zoo frustrating and I really need to access it as my entire computer contents (from my Windows machine which crashed and is no longer accessible) is on there, and this is going to be my only way of getting at it … Thanks. Kirsten. On 14 Nov 2011, at 21:34, Kirsten Edmondson wrote: This sounds great, but when I go to show package contents it is dimmed. What am I doing wrong? I'm sure this is my solution if only I can get it right … On 14 Nov 2011, at 21:25, Missy Hoppe wrote: Are you having trouble setting dropbox up? if that's the problem, there is a work around. you go to your applications folder on the mac, find dropbox, but don't open it. Instead, go through the context menu until you get to show package contents. I think you need a folder calld Macosx or something like that. Hit enter on that and then there's something called dropbox. Open that and you'll get an accessible install. Once everything is set up, everyone is right; just browse your dropbox through finder like it's any other folder on your system. Good luck, and I hope this helps. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of matthew Dyer Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 1:48 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Drop Box Hi Does anyone know how to get my drop box to work. I still can not get the setup to work. it just tells me dropbox has no windows. Matthew On Nov 14, 2011, at 1:31 PM, Kirsten Edmondson wrote: Becky, I am able to read things I have put in there in the last couple of days, but I can't seem to get the stuff that I know is already in my dropbox account (It's on the website and on my iPhone, but not on my Mac). Any ideas? Thanks. Kirsten. On 14 Nov 2011, at 00:48, Becky Knaub wrote: Hi All, I just go to my dropbox folder through dfinder. If you interact with the side bar and use the arrow keys you will find the drop box folder, I navigate it just fine with VO. Becky and Onyx On Nov 13, 2011, at 4:41 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: Today's Topic Summary Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics Dropbox accessibility [2 Updates] Preparing for clean lion install [5 Updates] VOICE RECOGNITION WITH VOICEOVER? [1 Update] Back and forward in Safari on iPad [2 Updates] solving visual captchas with mac and safari [2 Updates] Search in Apple Mail [1 Update] Attaching files in apple Mail for Gavan [2 Updates] A question about Dropbox and Flash-player [1 Update] Attaching a file in apple Mail seems ridiculous [7 Updates] Maybe an alternative to Chrome and Safari? [1 Update] smartsync: resetting contacts with iclaud [1 Update] Dropbox accessibility Kirsten Edmondson kirsten.edmond...@btinternet.com Nov 13 05:30PM Hi, I am guessing, since I just can't get it to sync, that the version of Dropbox, even though I downloaded and installed the Mac specific version from the dropbox.com website, isn't accessible? Is there an earlier version of dropbox which is accessible? Where might I find it? Can anyone give me a link? Thanks. Kirsten. Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com Nov 13 03:14PM -0600 Hi, Unfortunately, dropbox has never been accessible on the mac, since it relies on a menu bar that VO can't gain access to. This just isn't the case for dropbox, however, it's an issue with all apps that use that type of interface, including the Wifi menu in Lion Recovery. I've emailed apple about this, but have gotten no response back as of yet on a possible solution. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kirsten Edmondson Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 11:30 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Dropbox accessibility Hi, I am guessing, since I just can't get it to sync, that the version of Dropbox, even though I downloaded and installed the Mac specific version from the dropbox.com website, isn't accessible? Is there an earlier version of dropbox
Re: Drop Box
I'm still getting the same message. Is it because when I registered this Mac on my dropbox account when I installed I renamed the computer, so maybe it doesn't recognise it? If so, How do I rename it to what it thinks it should be? Should I just uninstall and reinstall? And if so how do I do that? Thanks. On 15 Nov 2011, at 18:04, Taylor Scott wrote: Dropbox is running in the background. Close that, then quit the dropbox process using Activity monitor in Utilities. Then run that file and you should be good to go. On 11/15/11, Kirsten Edmondson kirsten.edmond...@btinternet.com wrote: Hi, Today I managed to view package contents and I went to the Mac one and the Dropbox in there but when I open it I get the below message. I've switched off and restarted and get the same message, just with a different time, way am I doing wrong? Last login: Tue Nov 15 17:53:09 on console unknown-b8-8d-12-22-16-ac:~ kirstenedmondson$ /Applications/Dropbox.app/Contents/MacOS/Dropbox ; exit; Another instance of Dropbox (165) is running! logout [Process completed] -- I can't seem to get anything to press to get rid of it so can only close or quit. Any help would be appreciated, I'm know I'm being stupid about this and it must be easier than it's seeming, but it's zoo frustrating and I really need to access it as my entire computer contents (from my Windows machine which crashed and is no longer accessible) is on there, and this is going to be my only way of getting at it … Thanks. Kirsten. On 14 Nov 2011, at 21:34, Kirsten Edmondson wrote: This sounds great, but when I go to show package contents it is dimmed. What am I doing wrong? I'm sure this is my solution if only I can get it right … On 14 Nov 2011, at 21:25, Missy Hoppe wrote: Are you having trouble setting dropbox up? if that's the problem, there is a work around. you go to your applications folder on the mac, find dropbox, but don't open it. Instead, go through the context menu until you get to show package contents. I think you need a folder calld Macosx or something like that. Hit enter on that and then there's something called dropbox. Open that and you'll get an accessible install. Once everything is set up, everyone is right; just browse your dropbox through finder like it's any other folder on your system. Good luck, and I hope this helps. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of matthew Dyer Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 1:48 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Drop Box Hi Does anyone know how to get my drop box to work. I still can not get the setup to work. it just tells me dropbox has no windows. Matthew On Nov 14, 2011, at 1:31 PM, Kirsten Edmondson wrote: Becky, I am able to read things I have put in there in the last couple of days, but I can't seem to get the stuff that I know is already in my dropbox account (It's on the website and on my iPhone, but not on my Mac). Any ideas? Thanks. Kirsten. On 14 Nov 2011, at 00:48, Becky Knaub wrote: Hi All, I just go to my dropbox folder through dfinder. If you interact with the side bar and use the arrow keys you will find the drop box folder, I navigate it just fine with VO. Becky and Onyx On Nov 13, 2011, at 4:41 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: Today's Topic Summary Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics Dropbox accessibility [2 Updates] Preparing for clean lion install [5 Updates] VOICE RECOGNITION WITH VOICEOVER? [1 Update] Back and forward in Safari on iPad [2 Updates] solving visual captchas with mac and safari [2 Updates] Search in Apple Mail [1 Update] Attaching files in apple Mail for Gavan [2 Updates] A question about Dropbox and Flash-player [1 Update] Attaching a file in apple Mail seems ridiculous [7 Updates] Maybe an alternative to Chrome and Safari? [1 Update] smartsync: resetting contacts with iclaud [1 Update] Dropbox accessibility Kirsten Edmondson kirsten.edmond...@btinternet.com Nov 13 05:30PM Hi, I am guessing, since I just can't get it to sync, that the version of Dropbox, even though I downloaded and installed the Mac specific version from the dropbox.com website, isn't accessible? Is there an earlier version of dropbox which is accessible? Where might I find it? Can anyone give me a link? Thanks. Kirsten. Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com Nov 13 03:14PM -0600 Hi, Unfortunately, dropbox has never been accessible on the mac, since it relies on a menu bar that VO can't gain access to. This just isn't the case for dropbox, however, it's an issue with all apps that use that type of interface, including the Wifi menu in Lion Recovery. I've emailed apple about this, but have gotten no response back as of yet on a possible solution. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Re: How to delete messages in my mail on my iPhone
Thank you Greg, that was very helpful. And very easy to do. However, there was not a delete option but by selecting the move I could then send the message or messages to the deleted items folder. Thanks again Sent from my iPhone On 15 Nov 2011, at 16:15, Greg Aikens gpaik...@gmail.com wrote: There is an edit button towards the top right of the mail display. Double tap Edit and then double tap the messages you want to delete. You will notice that as you move through your messages they will be read as selected or unselected. When you are done selecting everything you want to delete, go to the bottom of the screen. There are several choices, such as move etc. but the one you want is delete. Hope this helps. -Greg On Nov 15, 2011, at 9:53 AM, David Eagle wrote: Hello everyone, I have recently purchased an iPhone and I must say things are going very well. I find it all very intuitive, in fact I'm dictating this message to Siri so hopefully there are not too many errors. Anyway, one thing that I haven't worked out how to do yet is how to delete messages in mail. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thank you Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Apple's AssistiveTouch Helps the Disabled Use a Smartphone - NYTimes.com
Hi all! Well some of you have said you've got Motor-control problems! So I wonder if this would work with vo! But it is Apple doing there thing! Colin Qapla! Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak http://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/11/10/apples-assistivetouch-helps-the-disabled-use-a-smartphone/ Apple’s AssistiveTouch Helps the Disabled Use a Smartphone Plenty has been written about the new iPhone 4S, with its voice-controlled virtual assistant Siri, and about iOS 5, its software. But in writing a book about both, I stumbled across an amazingly thoughtful feature that I haven’t seen a word about: something called AssistiveTouch. The Times’s technology columnist, David Pogue, keeps you on top of the industry in his free, weekly e-mail newsletter. Sign up | See Sample Now, Apple has always gone to considerable lengths to make the iPhone usable for people with vision and hearing impairments. If you’re deaf, you can have the LED flash to get your attention when the phone rings. You can create custom vibration patterns for each person who might call you. You can convert stereo music to mono (handy if you’re deaf in one ear). If you’re blind, you can literally turn the screen off and operate everything — do your e-mail, surf the Web, adjust settings, run apps — by tapping and letting the phone speak what you’re touching. You can also magnify the screen or reverse black for white (for better-contrast reading). In short, iPhone was already pretty good at helping out if you’re blind or deaf. But until iOS 5 came along, it was tough rocks if you had motor-control problems. How are you supposed to shake the phone (a shortcut for “Undo”) if you can’t even hold the thing? How are you supposed to pinch-to-zoom a map or a photo if you can’t even move your fingers? One new feature, called AssistiveTouch, is Apple’s accessibility team at its most creative. When you turn on this feature in Settings-General-Accessibility, a new, white circle appears at the bottom of the screen. It stays there all the time. When you tap it, you get a floating on-screen palette. Its buttons trigger motions and gestures on the iPhone screen without requiring hand or multiple-finger movement. All you have to be able to do is tap with a single finger — even a stylus you’re holding in your teeth or fist. For example, you can tap the Home on-screen button instead of pressing the physical Home button. If you tap Device, you get a sub-palette of six functions that would otherwise require you to grasp the phone or push its tiny physical buttons. There’s Rotate Screen (tap this instead of turning the phone 90 degrees), Lock Screen (tap instead of pressing the Sleep switch), Volume Up and Volume Down (tap instead of pressing the volume keys), Shake (does the same as shaking the phone to undo typing), and Mute/Unmute (tap instead of flipping the small Mute switch on the side). If you tap Gestures, you get a peculiar palette that depicts a hand holding up two, three, four, or five fingers. When you tap the three-finger icon, for example, you get three blue circles on the screen. They move together. Drag one of them, and the phone thinks you’re dragging three fingers on its surface. Using this technique, you can operate apps that require multiple fingers dragging on the screen. To me, the most impressive part is that you can define your own gestures. In Settings-General-Accessibility, you can tap Create New Gesture to draw your own gesture right on the screen, using up to five fingers. For example, suppose you’re frustrated in Google Maps because you can’t do the two-finger double-tap that means “zoom out.” On the Create New Gesture screen, get somebody to do the two-finger double-tap for you. Tap Save and give the gesture a name—say, “2 double tap.” From now on, “2 double tap” shows up on the final AssistiveTouch panel, called Favorites, ready to trigger with a single tap by a single finger or stylus. (Apple starts you off with one predefined gesture already in Favorites: Pinch. That’s the two-finger pinch or spread gesture you use to zoom in and out of photos, maps, Web pages, PDF documents, and so on. Now you can trigger it with only one finger.) I doubt that people with severe motor control challenges represent a financially significant number of the iPhone’s millions of customers. But somebody at Apple took them seriously enough to write a complete, elegant and thoughtful feature that takes down most of the barriers to using an app phone. I, for one, am impressed. And I’d also like to hear, in the Comments, from people who actually use AssistiveTouch. How well does it work? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
Re: Apple's AssistiveTouch Helps the Disabled Use a Smartphone - NYTimes.com
I've played with it a little. Seems that I had trouble opening some apps when it was enabled. I would double tap on the app, but the app didn't open for some reason. I'll have to play with it a bit more. Sent from my MBP On Nov 15, 2011, at 4:38 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: Hi all! Well some of you have said you've got Motor-control problems! So I wonder if this would work with vo! But it is Apple doing there thing! Colin Qapla! Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak http://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/11/10/apples-assistivetouch-helps-the-disabled-use-a-smartphone/ Apple’s AssistiveTouch Helps the Disabled Use a Smartphone Plenty has been written about the new iPhone 4S, with its voice-controlled virtual assistant Siri, and about iOS 5, its software. But in writing a book about both, I stumbled across an amazingly thoughtful feature that I haven’t seen a word about: something called AssistiveTouch. The Times’s technology columnist, David Pogue, keeps you on top of the industry in his free, weekly e-mail newsletter. Sign up | See Sample Now, Apple has always gone to considerable lengths to make the iPhone usable for people with vision and hearing impairments. If you’re deaf, you can have the LED flash to get your attention when the phone rings. You can create custom vibration patterns for each person who might call you. You can convert stereo music to mono (handy if you’re deaf in one ear). If you’re blind, you can literally turn the screen off and operate everything — do your e-mail, surf the Web, adjust settings, run apps — by tapping and letting the phone speak what you’re touching. You can also magnify the screen or reverse black for white (for better-contrast reading). In short, iPhone was already pretty good at helping out if you’re blind or deaf. But until iOS 5 came along, it was tough rocks if you had motor-control problems. How are you supposed to shake the phone (a shortcut for “Undo”) if you can’t even hold the thing? How are you supposed to pinch-to-zoom a map or a photo if you can’t even move your fingers? One new feature, called AssistiveTouch, is Apple’s accessibility team at its most creative. When you turn on this feature in Settings-General-Accessibility, a new, white circle appears at the bottom of the screen. It stays there all the time. When you tap it, you get a floating on-screen palette. Its buttons trigger motions and gestures on the iPhone screen without requiring hand or multiple-finger movement. All you have to be able to do is tap with a single finger — even a stylus you’re holding in your teeth or fist. For example, you can tap the Home on-screen button instead of pressing the physical Home button. If you tap Device, you get a sub-palette of six functions that would otherwise require you to grasp the phone or push its tiny physical buttons. There’s Rotate Screen (tap this instead of turning the phone 90 degrees), Lock Screen (tap instead of pressing the Sleep switch), Volume Up and Volume Down (tap instead of pressing the volume keys), Shake (does the same as shaking the phone to undo typing), and Mute/Unmute (tap instead of flipping the small Mute switch on the side). If you tap Gestures, you get a peculiar palette that depicts a hand holding up two, three, four, or five fingers. When you tap the three-finger icon, for example, you get three blue circles on the screen. They move together. Drag one of them, and the phone thinks you’re dragging three fingers on its surface. Using this technique, you can operate apps that require multiple fingers dragging on the screen. To me, the most impressive part is that you can define your own gestures. In Settings-General-Accessibility, you can tap Create New Gesture to draw your own gesture right on the screen, using up to five fingers. For example, suppose you’re frustrated in Google Maps because you can’t do the two-finger double-tap that means “zoom out.” On the Create New Gesture screen, get somebody to do the two-finger double-tap for you. Tap Save and give the gesture a name—say, “2 double tap.” From now on, “2 double tap” shows up on the final AssistiveTouch panel, called Favorites, ready to trigger with a single tap by a single finger or stylus. (Apple starts you off with one predefined gesture already in Favorites: Pinch. That’s the two-finger pinch or spread gesture you use to zoom in and out of photos, maps, Web pages, PDF documents, and so on. Now you can trigger it with only one finger.) I doubt that people with severe motor control challenges represent a financially significant number of the iPhone’s millions of customers. But somebody at Apple took them seriously enough to write a complete, elegant and thoughtful feature that takes down most of the barriers to using an app phone. I, for one, am impressed. And I’d also like to hear, in the Comments, from people who actually use
Re: Apple's AssistiveTouch Helps the Disabled Use a Smartphone - NYTimes.com
Does it work with VO, or does VO become disabled with it? Teresa Man is matter's ability to contemplate itself.--Albert Einstein On Nov 15, 2011, at 2:50 PM, Chad King wrote: I've played with it a little. Seems that I had trouble opening some apps when it was enabled. I would double tap on the app, but the app didn't open for some reason. I'll have to play with it a bit more. Sent from my MBP On Nov 15, 2011, at 4:38 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: Hi all! Well some of you have said you've got Motor-control problems! So I wonder if this would work with vo! But it is Apple doing there thing! Colin Qapla! Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak http://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/11/10/apples-assistivetouch-helps-the-disabled-use-a-smartphone/ Apple’s AssistiveTouch Helps the Disabled Use a Smartphone Plenty has been written about the new iPhone 4S, with its voice-controlled virtual assistant Siri, and about iOS 5, its software. But in writing a book about both, I stumbled across an amazingly thoughtful feature that I haven’t seen a word about: something called AssistiveTouch. The Times’s technology columnist, David Pogue, keeps you on top of the industry in his free, weekly e-mail newsletter. Sign up | See Sample Now, Apple has always gone to considerable lengths to make the iPhone usable for people with vision and hearing impairments. If you’re deaf, you can have the LED flash to get your attention when the phone rings. You can create custom vibration patterns for each person who might call you. You can convert stereo music to mono (handy if you’re deaf in one ear). If you’re blind, you can literally turn the screen off and operate everything — do your e-mail, surf the Web, adjust settings, run apps — by tapping and letting the phone speak what you’re touching. You can also magnify the screen or reverse black for white (for better-contrast reading). In short, iPhone was already pretty good at helping out if you’re blind or deaf. But until iOS 5 came along, it was tough rocks if you had motor-control problems. How are you supposed to shake the phone (a shortcut for “Undo”) if you can’t even hold the thing? How are you supposed to pinch-to-zoom a map or a photo if you can’t even move your fingers? One new feature, called AssistiveTouch, is Apple’s accessibility team at its most creative. When you turn on this feature in Settings-General-Accessibility, a new, white circle appears at the bottom of the screen. It stays there all the time. When you tap it, you get a floating on-screen palette. Its buttons trigger motions and gestures on the iPhone screen without requiring hand or multiple-finger movement. All you have to be able to do is tap with a single finger — even a stylus you’re holding in your teeth or fist. For example, you can tap the Home on-screen button instead of pressing the physical Home button. If you tap Device, you get a sub-palette of six functions that would otherwise require you to grasp the phone or push its tiny physical buttons. There’s Rotate Screen (tap this instead of turning the phone 90 degrees), Lock Screen (tap instead of pressing the Sleep switch), Volume Up and Volume Down (tap instead of pressing the volume keys), Shake (does the same as shaking the phone to undo typing), and Mute/Unmute (tap instead of flipping the small Mute switch on the side). If you tap Gestures, you get a peculiar palette that depicts a hand holding up two, three, four, or five fingers. When you tap the three-finger icon, for example, you get three blue circles on the screen. They move together. Drag one of them, and the phone thinks you’re dragging three fingers on its surface. Using this technique, you can operate apps that require multiple fingers dragging on the screen. To me, the most impressive part is that you can define your own gestures. In Settings-General-Accessibility, you can tap Create New Gesture to draw your own gesture right on the screen, using up to five fingers. For example, suppose you’re frustrated in Google Maps because you can’t do the two-finger double-tap that means “zoom out.” On the Create New Gesture screen, get somebody to do the two-finger double-tap for you. Tap Save and give the gesture a name—say, “2 double tap.” From now on, “2 double tap” shows up on the final AssistiveTouch panel, called Favorites, ready to trigger with a single tap by a single finger or stylus. (Apple starts you off with one predefined gesture already in Favorites: Pinch. That’s the two-finger pinch or spread gesture you use to zoom in and out of photos, maps, Web pages, PDF documents, and so on. Now you can trigger it with only one finger.) I doubt that people with severe motor control challenges represent a financially significant number of the iPhone’s millions of customers. But somebody at Apple took them seriously enough to write a complete, elegant and
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Hi all, I have some ms word documents i need to download. firstly, how do I download them. Secondly, can the mac read ms word files? Thanks. Steph -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Unable to eject cd
I have tried all the options but with no success. However with command shift E the machine tries to eject the cd but the cd does not come out. Mano - Original Message - From: Jessica To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 5:36 AM Subject: Re: Unable to eject cd I think command E usually does it. - Original Message - From: Daniel Miller To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 4:41 AM Subject: RE: Unable to eject cd Hi, You have to hold the eject button for a few seconds. And I don't think it's command shift t to eject, but I could be wrong. Then again, I never use keyboard commands to eject discs. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Manohar Singaram Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 6:38 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Unable to eject cd Hi, I have two problems. First I am unable to eject my cd, neither the eject button or command shift T is able to eject the cd out. Second problem is In the mail I can read by date, subject and so on but I am unable to get voice over to read all the columns in one go and also downwards to the other messages. I have tried inter acting and stop inter acting with messages and also mail boxes. Your kind help please. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Facebook
Facebook mobile works fine on my windows computer so for some reason it's to do with the using Facebook on the Mac. Very strange. I've tried contacting face book before and it was very challenging. The mobile site was working on my Mac a couple of months ago, but I haven't used it since then. On 15 Nov 2011, at 16:56, Rahul Bajaj wrote: Hi Jenny, Yes, the mobile version of Facebook is very accessible. Even the main site used to work very well until Facebook decided to change its interface. The problem with the main site is that they constantly keep making unnecessary changes to it. Even sighted people don't like most of those ridiculous changes. So, I mostly use the mobile site. Cheers, Rahul -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Stopwatch on the i-phone?
Thank you very much and have a great evening. Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Nov 15, 2011, at 9:46 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: Hi Jennifer! You should have Utilities folder and in there should be Clock! Open it and there should be 4 tabs at the bottom world clock, alarm, stop watch and timer! hth Colin On 15 Nov 2011, at 15:37, Jennifer Perdue wrote: Is there a countdown timer on the i-phone. Could someone tell me where it is please. I have the 3Gs. Thanks. Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Nov 12, 2011, at 11:37 AM, Wendy Alling wrote: Hello all, Can someone give me some help with the audible app? I have it installed on my phone but can't find where to purchase a book using the app on the phone. I have an account but don't have a plan set up. Could that be the problem? Any tips would be most appreciated. Thanks. Wendy __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6623 (2012) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Facebook
Thank you very much for your help. Have a great evening. Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Nov 15, 2011, at 10:05 AM, Chad King wrote: Hi. I use the mobile site. I think the main site is accessible, but i do not like the lay out of it at all. And it does seem that Facebook wants to change things on the site a little too often Sent from my MBP On Nov 15, 2011, at 10:02 AM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: Is Facebook accessable? I've never used it. Any suggestions? Just curious. Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Nov 13, 2011, at 12:27 AM, Rahul Bajaj wrote: David, Your suggestion about that movie was too hilarious :P On my Windows laptop, the mobile site is working perfectly. I have been trying to use the mobile site on my Mac for a long time, but it always redirects me to the main site. Will the Facebook people do something about it if I write to them? Other mobile sites are working perfectly on my Mac. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Facebook
Can you use the mobile site on your regular mac? Thanks and everybody have a great evening. Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Nov 15, 2011, at 10:21 AM, Kestrell wrote: I use the mobile site also m.facebook.com and it filters out a lot of the more annoying ads, game messages, and so on, which make the main site so overwhelming. My only piece of advice would be to start with a few friends or fan pages and then add more as you get used to it. Kes - Original Message - From: Jennifer Perdue jlperd...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 11:02 AM Subject: Re: Facebook Is Facebook accessable? I've never used it. Any suggestions? Just curious. Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Nov 13, 2011, at 12:27 AM, Rahul Bajaj wrote: David, Your suggestion about that movie was too hilarious :P On my Windows laptop, the mobile site is working perfectly. I have been trying to use the mobile site on my Mac for a long time, but it always redirects me to the main site. Will the Facebook people do something about it if I write to them? Other mobile sites are working perfectly on my Mac. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Facebook
Thank you for your help and have a nice evening . Jenning and my goofy guide Brooks On Nov 15, 2011, at 10:56 AM, Rahul Bajaj wrote: Hi Jenny, Yes, the mobile version of Facebook is very accessible. Even the main site used to work very well until Facebook decided to change its interface. The problem with the main site is that they constantly keep making unnecessary changes to it. Even sighted people don't like most of those ridiculous changes. So, I mostly use the mobile site. Cheers, Rahul -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Preparing for clean lion install
You're really gonna laugh, but where is system preferences? Sorry for the dumb question but I'm still learning. You'll do fine with lion. I'm sure of it. Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Nov 15, 2011, at 11:03 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote: Hi! I think that if you hit U from within system preferences, you should be able to find it that way. Otherwise, just start tabbing around until you hear it. They totally changed the layout of system preferences, so it's easy to lose stuff. Speaking of which, since I wasn't noticing any benefits or performance improvements at all from the clean lion install I did over the weekend, I've decided to reinstall my updated version. I recognize that I need to start making myself learn lion, so will only run SL from an external drive when needed. It's just that for me, the clean install of lion was causing more trouble than it was worth, so if I have to put up with lion, I'm going to at least revert to a setup which more or less worked. The only thing I will definitely need to continue using SL for is creating spoken text audio files; no matter what I do, that faeture just doesn't work reliably under Lion, and when I did manage to get an mp3 under lion, it read out the line of underline characters which I use as section separaters in the file I need to make periodic mp3 versions of. That was never an issue under SL. So, I don't know what the problem is, but at least I have my external drive with SL that I can boot from whenever I need to. In the mean time, I suppose it's time to start trying to tame that pesky lion. (sigh) Good luck finding what you need to fix, and I hope that you're having a great day! Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jennifer Perdue Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 11:39 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Preparing for clean lion install Hi, New to the mac so could you tell me where users and groups are? Thanks so much. Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Nov 13, 2011, at 2:21 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: Hi, In Users Groups, Interact with the Users, Groups and Login Options List, and navigate down to Login Options. stop Interacting With the List then navigate right until you locate the Use VoiceOver at Login checkbox. Sorry, I can't help with Pandora, I don't use it. Later... On 2011-11-13, at 12:10 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: Hi! I have no idea why vo doesn't always speak it's welcome message; it almost always starts, but as I said, it's usually stuck in some weird window that doesn't exist, so I have to command tab before I can do anything; and I have no clue when it's OK to do that command tab since VO almost never says anything. I went through users and groups, but didn't find anything pertaining to vo. I'll look again, just in case I missed something, but since I'm not noticing any improvements, I don't know how much time I'll put into getting this fresh install up and running. The main thing I was curious about was if it would change/improve the way my pandora app read, and that did not improve in any way. Thanks for the help, though. I'll try to investigate things a little bit further. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 2:04 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Preparing for clean lion install Hi, The option you're looking for in System Preferences is Users Groups. Lion has made this option more in line with servers and other OS's that use that terminology. I'm not sure why your computer has the hit and miss when it comes to VO turning on automatically, I've only experienced this when a specific error message has circumvented VO from starting right away. In these cases, I just pressed cmd-f5, VO came on, I determined the error type and eliminated it so that VO behaved as it should. Later... On 2011-11-13, at 10:18 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote: Hello, all. I did the clean install of lion last night as planned, and so far, I must say that I think it was a complete waste of time. VO sspeaking at start-up is still hit or miss, and I now find myself stuck in something called T.I. switcher; basicly the exact same problem as the com.doc.apple.extra that existed when lion first came out. The system preferences window seems to have been completely rearranged, and I'm having trouble finding things: most noteably where I turn on the option for VO to speak log in windows. Since I don't have to log on, it wouldn't be a problem, but it becomes an issue if I'm installing updates that require the machine to be restarted. I've installed all of the newest updates, and I do intend to install a few apps just to say I've made a legitimate effort, but in retrospect, I should have
RE: Preparing for clean lion install
OK. Just do the vo keys plus M to get into the menu. In the apple menu, down arrow until you hear system preferences. No need to apologize for being a newbie. I still very much consider myself one. I just had a minor breakthrough in understanding how mail works, so I'm feeling really proud of myself right now. Good luck! Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jennifer Perdue Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 7:32 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Preparing for clean lion install You're really gonna laugh, but where is system preferences? Sorry for the dumb question but I'm still learning. You'll do fine with lion. I'm sure of it. Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Nov 15, 2011, at 11:03 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote: Hi! I think that if you hit U from within system preferences, you should be able to find it that way. Otherwise, just start tabbing around until you hear it. They totally changed the layout of system preferences, so it's easy to lose stuff. Speaking of which, since I wasn't noticing any benefits or performance improvements at all from the clean lion install I did over the weekend, I've decided to reinstall my updated version. I recognize that I need to start making myself learn lion, so will only run SL from an external drive when needed. It's just that for me, the clean install of lion was causing more trouble than it was worth, so if I have to put up with lion, I'm going to at least revert to a setup which more or less worked. The only thing I will definitely need to continue using SL for is creating spoken text audio files; no matter what I do, that faeture just doesn't work reliably under Lion, and when I did manage to get an mp3 under lion, it read out the line of underline characters which I use as section separaters in the file I need to make periodic mp3 versions of. That was never an issue under SL. So, I don't know what the problem is, but at least I have my external drive with SL that I can boot from whenever I need to. In the mean time, I suppose it's time to start trying to tame that pesky lion. (sigh) Good luck finding what you need to fix, and I hope that you're having a great day! Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jennifer Perdue Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 11:39 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Preparing for clean lion install Hi, New to the mac so could you tell me where users and groups are? Thanks so much. Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Nov 13, 2011, at 2:21 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: Hi, In Users Groups, Interact with the Users, Groups and Login Options List, and navigate down to Login Options. stop Interacting With the List then navigate right until you locate the Use VoiceOver at Login checkbox. Sorry, I can't help with Pandora, I don't use it. Later... On 2011-11-13, at 12:10 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: Hi! I have no idea why vo doesn't always speak it's welcome message; it almost always starts, but as I said, it's usually stuck in some weird window that doesn't exist, so I have to command tab before I can do anything; and I have no clue when it's OK to do that command tab since VO almost never says anything. I went through users and groups, but didn't find anything pertaining to vo. I'll look again, just in case I missed something, but since I'm not noticing any improvements, I don't know how much time I'll put into getting this fresh install up and running. The main thing I was curious about was if it would change/improve the way my pandora app read, and that did not improve in any way. Thanks for the help, though. I'll try to investigate things a little bit further. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 2:04 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Preparing for clean lion install Hi, The option you're looking for in System Preferences is Users Groups. Lion has made this option more in line with servers and other OS's that use that terminology. I'm not sure why your computer has the hit and miss when it comes to VO turning on automatically, I've only experienced this when a specific error message has circumvented VO from starting right away. In these cases, I just pressed cmd-f5, VO came on, I determined the error type and eliminated it so that VO behaved as it should. Later... On 2011-11-13, at 10:18 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote: Hello, all. I did the clean install of lion last night as planned, and so far, I must say that I think it was a complete waste of time. VO sspeaking at start-up is still hit or miss, and I now find myself stuck in something called T.I. switcher; basicly the exact same problem as the
Change Volume Gradually in Garageband
Hi, Is there a way to change the volume gradually in a track in Garageband? I know there's a way to do this with the mouse, but how do you do it with voiceover? I want to have music at the end of a recording. It should be quiet while I finish talking, but then should slowly get louder afterwards. Thanks, Brandon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
is it possible to remote another mac
Hello All I use Lion, and sometimes i help friends and family with lion questions. is it possible to remote a mac with lion. I want a program, i can use with VoiceOver. Thanks in advance. Best Regards Jorgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Preparing for clean lion install
I think I did it. I Guess we'll see next time I turn on my computer. Thanks. Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Nov 15, 2011, at 6:37 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: OK. Just do the vo keys plus M to get into the menu. In the apple menu, down arrow until you hear system preferences. No need to apologize for being a newbie. I still very much consider myself one. I just had a minor breakthrough in understanding how mail works, so I'm feeling really proud of myself right now. Good luck! Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jennifer Perdue Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 7:32 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Preparing for clean lion install You're really gonna laugh, but where is system preferences? Sorry for the dumb question but I'm still learning. You'll do fine with lion. I'm sure of it. Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Nov 15, 2011, at 11:03 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote: Hi! I think that if you hit U from within system preferences, you should be able to find it that way. Otherwise, just start tabbing around until you hear it. They totally changed the layout of system preferences, so it's easy to lose stuff. Speaking of which, since I wasn't noticing any benefits or performance improvements at all from the clean lion install I did over the weekend, I've decided to reinstall my updated version. I recognize that I need to start making myself learn lion, so will only run SL from an external drive when needed. It's just that for me, the clean install of lion was causing more trouble than it was worth, so if I have to put up with lion, I'm going to at least revert to a setup which more or less worked. The only thing I will definitely need to continue using SL for is creating spoken text audio files; no matter what I do, that faeture just doesn't work reliably under Lion, and when I did manage to get an mp3 under lion, it read out the line of underline characters which I use as section separaters in the file I need to make periodic mp3 versions of. That was never an issue under SL. So, I don't know what the problem is, but at least I have my external drive with SL that I can boot from whenever I need to. In the mean time, I suppose it's time to start trying to tame that pesky lion. (sigh) Good luck finding what you need to fix, and I hope that you're having a great day! Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jennifer Perdue Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 11:39 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Preparing for clean lion install Hi, New to the mac so could you tell me where users and groups are? Thanks so much. Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Nov 13, 2011, at 2:21 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: Hi, In Users Groups, Interact with the Users, Groups and Login Options List, and navigate down to Login Options. stop Interacting With the List then navigate right until you locate the Use VoiceOver at Login checkbox. Sorry, I can't help with Pandora, I don't use it. Later... On 2011-11-13, at 12:10 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: Hi! I have no idea why vo doesn't always speak it's welcome message; it almost always starts, but as I said, it's usually stuck in some weird window that doesn't exist, so I have to command tab before I can do anything; and I have no clue when it's OK to do that command tab since VO almost never says anything. I went through users and groups, but didn't find anything pertaining to vo. I'll look again, just in case I missed something, but since I'm not noticing any improvements, I don't know how much time I'll put into getting this fresh install up and running. The main thing I was curious about was if it would change/improve the way my pandora app read, and that did not improve in any way. Thanks for the help, though. I'll try to investigate things a little bit further. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 2:04 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Preparing for clean lion install Hi, The option you're looking for in System Preferences is Users Groups. Lion has made this option more in line with servers and other OS's that use that terminology. I'm not sure why your computer has the hit and miss when it comes to VO turning on automatically, I've only experienced this when a specific error message has circumvented VO from starting right away. In these cases, I just pressed cmd-f5, VO came on, I determined the error type and eliminated it so that VO behaved as it should. Later... On 2011-11-13, at 10:18 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote: Hello, all. I did the clean install of lion last night as planned, and so far, I
Re: Facebook
Jennifer, I just wanted to chime in that the regular Facebook site is what I use. A majority of what one wishes to accomplish is accessible on the site. I have used the mobile site. From time to time, I'll use a feature or two on there, but I much rather use the main site. You can post links, update status, comment on your own status, comment on others' updates, or use different aps. There are a few times where FB Accessilibty responded promptly and assisted me with any issues quickly, but other times where they did not respond yet the issue was eventually resolved by the team. Sexy Isra Israel Antonio www.sexyisra.blogspot.com www.twitter.com/sexyisra On Nov 15, 2011, at 10:02 AM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: Is Facebook accessable? I've never used it. Any suggestions? Just curious. Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Nov 13, 2011, at 12:27 AM, Rahul Bajaj wrote: David, Your suggestion about that movie was too hilarious :P On my Windows laptop, the mobile site is working perfectly. I have been trying to use the mobile site on my Mac for a long time, but it always redirects me to the main site. Will the Facebook people do something about it if I write to them? Other mobile sites are working perfectly on my Mac. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: JetBlue vs Chrome
Thanks for checking into this for me. Best wishes, Jonathan On Nov 15, 2011, at 6:49 AM, Les Kriegler wrote: Well, my son just informed me that a revised website will roll out on December 9 for JetBlue. There may also be an iPhone app as well coming around the same time. What's unclear is whether accessibility issues will be addressed. Les On Nov 14, 2011, at 3:05 PM, Mika Pyyhkala wrote: Hi, There are known accessibility issues with the main JetBlue web site. You may be able to get parts of it to work with various browser and screen reader combinations, but other features may not work at all. One feature where there is no work around is the flash based check in. JetBlue is working on an internal accessibility initiative, but it still would be good for them to hear from blind consumers about the accessibility of the web site. You may want to tweet them @JetBlue if you are on Twitter, or contact them in a written form in some way. You should be able to book flights using http://mobile.jetblue.com (although if you use this site from an iPhone the language preference is set to Pollish) I believe for a promotion you can also use: http://mobile.jetblue.com/promo (for instance today there is a 20% off promo code) I think its all upper case 20FORYOU They also have a reservations special services Help Line available at 855-232-5463 (855-ADALine) where the agents will be familiar with waiving the booking fee for blind passengers with accessibility issues. These agents will also readily be able to book web fares if you have an accessibility issue. If you call the main 800-JetBlue phone number they likely won't be as familiar with accessibility issues or especially with booking web fares over the phone. Even if you book through the special services desk, you can tell them you do not want a special service request SSR in your record. If you have an SSR in your record it flags you in their system as being blind, and it also prevents you from using the online check in. Much of my work in the NFB has to do with airline issues, and I regularly work with the DOT and the various airlines. There is an NPRM right now having to do with airline web site and kiosk accessibility which DOT is seeking public comment on. Best, Mika Pyyhkala @pyyhkala On 11/14/11, Jonathan C. Cohn jon.c.c...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I was having some difficulty with the popup choices presented by the JetBlue website when using Webkit, and since I have heard wonderful praises from Kevin about chrome, I decided to give it a chance to make the site work. I got to the first edit box, entered IAD (for Washington International Dulles Airport) and was told there was a table with Washington Dulles in it. I attempted to select on that link and chrome went into high CPU and Best wishes, Died. Can anybody successfully get flight searches to work from the JetBlue web site? Let me know what you did. Thanks, Jonathan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Change Volume Gradually in Garageband
Hi, Nope. I haven't figured out away to do this with Garageband at least. Your best bet is to use an audio editor to fade the part of the audio track you want lowered. Or, you can always try ducking in Garageband but, that doesn't sound like the effect your looking for. But, it might be close enough. hth Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Nov 15, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Brandon Olivares wrote: Hi, Is there a way to change the volume gradually in a track in Garageband? I know there's a way to do this with the mouse, but how do you do it with voiceover? I want to have music at the end of a recording. It should be quiet while I finish talking, but then should slowly get louder afterwards. Thanks, Brandon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Facebook
Jenny, Yes, it is meant to work with any regular Mac, but, for some reason, it's not been working for me. I've asked the people at Facebook to look into this. Cheers, RB -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: A question.
Hey Chad, Thanks a lot for replying. I searched in Spotlight for the file that I wanted to open. When I found that file, I pressed VO shift M, but nothing happened. I tried it many times, but there was no result. Am I doing something incorrectly? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: more on speech recognition on the Mac
Hi Donna, Greg is right about the calibration. And just as you have tried it, the constant listening method is a bit quirky as it seems as though the constant chatter of voice over while we use the computer can probably overwhelm the listening algorithms. So the best approach is really to keep a certain key as the command key. I've tried several times with the listen keyword method with different original names but it's a bit annoying to keep calling amadeus to check the time for example or other tasks. And some tasks could also be enhanced such as some form of automation coupled with applescript or automator workflows. Best Yuma On 16/11/2011, at 4:23 AM, Goodin, Donna wrote: Hey Greg, Thanks! That seems to have done the trick. I hadn't messed with the calibration because I had no way to tell when it was set right, but the adjustment I made seems to have improved recognition significantly. Cheers, donna On Nov 15, 2011, at 10:12 AM, Greg Aikens wrote: Hi Donna, I haven't looked at this in a while, but there is a button labelled calibrate in the speech recognition dialog. It should bring up a slider that you can move around until it is more accurate. I can't tell you what the slider does, just that that I moved it around until it was more accurate. Hope this helps. -Greg On Nov 15, 2011, at 8:10 AM, Goodin, Donna wrote: Hi all, I've been playing around again with speech recognition following Yuma's posts yesterday. My experience is that it seems to work about 3 out of ten times. Is this others experience? Yuma, you seem to be having a lot of success, did you tweak anything in the settings to improve recognition? I'm currently using the key press method, because when I tried to have it listen for a key word, I literally never got the Mac to respond. Best, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: help! tables and pages
Hi Kirsten, highlighting an empty portion of a table in Numbers and copying it to Pages should also work. But creating a table without contents is also possible in Pages itself. I'm totally with you. It's really a pitty that VO doesn't recognizes tables. All we can do is to write an e-mail to accessibil...@apple.com to explane how unbeleivable that is. All the best Jürgen Am 14.11.2011 um 19:20 schrieb Kirsten Edmondson: Hi, Tables is something which majorly bothers me about Pages too. I couldn't understand why it wouldn't read them. Now I am enlightened! Thanks. What is the command to convert text to table and table to text which was mentioned? Or if I read right, how do you create a command like this? Also, someone said to put your table in numbers, modify it and then copy back only the columns with text in, back into Pages. But, what if you want to have blank columns? I create tables for students to fill in, so need blank columns and just the structure. Will my table come out looking very random? Thanks. Kirsten. On 14 Nov 2011, at 17:38, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Gigi, On 14 Nov 2011, at 15:07, Eugenia Firth wrote: Let me make sure I have it straight. I have been doing the layout in Numbers, but what I have been doing is pasting all of the text after I get it done. Also, I finally figured out I had to take out all the extra columns and rows before pasting the text. Are you saying that I should paste each column back into Pages separately? No. It sounds as though you're doing the right thing. I would leave the text in Numbers after doing the layout, but I can't get it to save in Word. It wants to do Excel, which I don't want. No, it won't save in Word. Also, Pages has been converting all my text to an image immediately when I paste it. It shouldn't be an image, but it's a kind of dynamic element that VoiceOver can't read. However, if you use the command that converts the table to text, you can check it and then press Cmd-z to undo that command without damaging the layout, as long as you don't change anything. I've created short cuts for the commands to convert table to text, and to convert text to table to make things easier. Alternatively, you can use the command to copy the selection into a new textEdit window so that you can check your table. I hope I haven't confused you further. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: help! tables and pages
Hi Anne, when my cursor for example sitts in A1 and I press Shift + arrow right VO says two selected. When I then press Shift + arro down VO anounces four selected. When I press again Shift + arrow down VO says six selected. So I'm able to select portions of the table but of course just in rectangular shapes. Seems to be easier then to use mouse clicks. But your methode might serve another funktion. So I'm interested wether your methode does a different thing. Could you please compair the two results of the methodes? Thanks for your answer and all the best Jürgen Am 14.11.2011 um 18:41 schrieb Anne Robertson: Hello Jürgen, Using your method, can you select a portion of a table or are you stuck with entire columns and entire rows? My method allows you to select just the part you want. Cheers, Anne On 14 Nov 2011, at 17:48, Jürgen Fleger wrote: Hi Anne, could you please tell me, what's the advantedge of your methode? What I normally do is just hold down shift and press arro keys to select either columns or rows. I can also highlight a row and go downwards to select the next row. Thanks for your hints and all the best Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
