I think I did it. I Guess we'll see next time I turn on my computer. Thanks.
Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Nov 15, 2011, at 6:37 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: > OK. Just do the vo keys plus M to get into the menu. In the apple menu, down > arrow until you hear system preferences. No need > to apologize for being a newbie. I still very much consider myself one. I > just had a minor breakthrough in understanding how > mail works, so I'm feeling really proud of myself right now. > Good luck! > Missy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Perdue > Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 7:32 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Preparing for clean lion install > > You're really gonna laugh, but where is system preferences? Sorry for the > dumb question but I'm still learning. > > You'll do fine with lion. I'm sure of it. > > Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks > On Nov 15, 2011, at 11:03 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote: > >> Hi! I think that if you hit U from within system preferences, you >> should be able to find it that way. Otherwise, just start tabbing >> around until you hear it. They totally changed the layout of system >> preferences, so it's easy to lose stuff. Speaking of which, since I >> wasn't noticing any benefits or performance improvements at all from >> the clean lion install I did over the weekend, I've decided to >> reinstall my updated version. I recognize that I need to start making >> myself learn lion, so will only run SL from an external drive when >> needed. It's just that for me, the clean install of lion was causing >> more trouble than it was worth, so if I have to put up with lion, I'm >> going to at least revert to a setup which more or less worked. The >> only thing I will definitely need to continue using SL for is creating >> spoken text audio files; no matter what I do, that > faeture just doesn't work reliably under Lion, and when I did manage to get > an mp3 under lion, it read out the line of > underline characters which I use as section separaters in the file I need to > make periodic mp3 versions of. That was never an > issue under SL. So, I don't know what the problem is, but at least I have my > external drive with SL that I can boot from > whenever I need to. In the mean time, I suppose it's time to start trying to > tame that pesky lion. (sigh) Good luck finding > what you need to fix, and I hope that you're having a great day! >> Missy >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Perdue >> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 11:39 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Preparing for clean lion install >> >> Hi, >> >> New to the mac so could you tell me where users and groups are? >> >> Thanks so much. >> >> Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks >> On Nov 13, 2011, at 2:21 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> In Users & Groups, Interact with the Users, Groups and Login Options >>> List, and navigate down to Login Options. stop >> Interacting With the List then navigate right until you locate the "Use >> VoiceOver at Login" checkbox. >>> >>> Sorry, I can't help with Pandora, I don't use it. >>> >>> Later... >>> >>> On 2011-11-13, at 12:10 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: >>> >>>> Hi! I have no idea why vo doesn't always speak it's welcome message; >>>> it almost always starts, but as I said, it's usually stuck in some >>>> weird window that doesn't exist, so I have to command tab before I >>>> can do anything; and I have no clue when it's OK to do >> that command tab since VO almost never says anything. >>>> I went through users and groups, but didn't find anything >>>> pertaining to vo. I'll look again, just in case I missed something, >>>> but since I'm not noticing any improvements, I don't know how much >>>> time I'll put into getting this fresh install up and running. The >>>> main thing I was curious about was if it would change/improve the >> way my pandora app read, and that did not improve in any way. Thanks >> for the help, though. I'll try to investigate things a little bit further. >>>> Missy >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn >>>> Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 2:04 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: Preparing for clean lion install >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> The option you're looking for in System Preferences is Users & >>>> Groups. Lion has made this option more in line with servers and >>>> other OS's that use that terminology. I'm not sure why your >>>> computer has the "hit and miss" when it comes to VO turning on >>>> automatically, I've only experienced this when a specific error >>>> message has circumvented VO from starting right away. In these >>>> cases, I >> just pressed cmd-f5, VO came on, I determined the error type and eliminated >> it so that VO behaved as it should. >>>> >>>> Later... >>>> >>>> On 2011-11-13, at 10:18 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello, all. I did the clean install of lion last night as planned, >>>>> and so far, I must say that I think it was a complete waste of time. >>>>> VO sspeaking at start-up is still hit or miss, and I now find >>>>> myself stuck in something called T.I. switcher; basicly the exact >>>>> same problem as the com.doc.apple.extra that existed when lion >>>>> first came out. The system preferences window seems to have been >>>>> completely rearranged, and I'm having trouble finding things: most >>>> noteably where I turn on the option for VO to speak log in windows. >>>> Since I don't have to log on, it wouldn't be a problem, but it >>>> becomes an issue if I'm installing updates that require the >> machine to be restarted. >>>>> I've installed all of the newest updates, and I do intend to >>>>> install a few apps just to say I've made a legitimate effort, but >>>>> in retrospect, I should have left well enough alone. Thankfully, I >>>>> cloned my SL drive before all this started, but so far, I'm very >>>>> disappointed in the lack of difference between the upgrade of lion >>>>> and the >>>> clean install. At least based on my experience so far, I have to >>>> agree with the folks at apple on this one; upgrading is better. >>>>> If anyone could provide any insite on what I'm doing wrong and why >>>>> lion is still such a tremendous disappointment, I would really >>>>> appreciate it. For now, though, I'm off to find the install of CCC. >>>>> I've got a feeling I'm going to need it in a few >> days. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Scott Howell >>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 5:48 PM >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: Re: Preparing for clean lion install >>>>> >>>>> The best thing you could do is install all the apps from scratch. >>>>> After all if your going to go through all the trouble, you might as >>>>> well start with a truly fresh system. Otherwise, you will be >>>>> copying things by hand and you may not get everything >>>> necessary. If nothing else, you will have learned from the experience and >>>> that itself is worth the effort. >>>>> Good luck, >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 12, 2011, at 5:32 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Good evening, all. I'm highly skeptical that this is going to do >>>>>> any good, but just because I want to say I've made the effort, I'm >>>>>> getting ready to do a clean install of lion. While I'm doing all my prep >>>>>> work: >>>>>> cloning to external drives to make sure I don't lose anything, I'm >>>>>> going to listen to Mike's podcast on Lion. I just wanted to write >>>>>> to the group, though, because I'm curious how I'll go about >>>>>> putting back apps. Can I restore them from the cloned drives, or >>>>>> do I have to actually reinstall things? More than anything else, >>>>>> I'm concerned about the Acapella voices I purchased to use with my >>>>>> mac, >>>>> but wouldn't mind tips about adium, skype and things of that nature. >>>>> Also, how do I back up my Itunes purchases. Granted, I've only made >>>>> two of them, but I don't want to lose them. What about Growl and >>>>> Yorufukuru? Will I just get those from the app store >>>> again? >>>>>> I've got 2 external drives handy, so I'm backing up not only my >>>>>> current lion install, but also my perfect and up-to-date SL install. >>>>>> That way, if the clean install still isn't >>>>> satisfactory, I can put everything back the way it was. >>>>>> Any advice will be extremely appreciated. I just keep reminding >>>>>> myself that there's no way I can possibly render the mac entirely >>>>>> useless, but I don't want to lose any apps, especially not ones >>>>>> that cost money. So, if anyone has any instructions to share, I >>>>> would be extremely greatful. Also, once I use my CD, will lion be able to >>>>> update itself to 7.2? >>>>>> OK. Sorry for the rambling, disjointed message. I just am trying >>>>>> this to give Lion another chance to get into my good >>>>> graces. >>>>>> Thank you all very much for your time, and I hope that everyone is >>>>>> having a great day! >>>>>> Missy >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Tim Kilburn >>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> Tim Kilburn >>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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