date:20120207

Hello,

In 16, I'm unable to use item chooser or the rotor menu to get to objects that 
are in tables.  Does this bug still exist in 17 beta?

Thanks.

Ricardo Walker
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On Feb 7, 2012, at 6:48 AM, roberto burceni wrote:

 Hi all, yes  google Chrome works fine, bbut in sites with frames it is not 
 working. I'm trying version 17 beta and it seems better than 16.0, but in 
 frames you can move only with tab and not with voiceover cursor.
 Regards 
 Il giorno 07/feb/2012, alle ore 12:02, Krister Ekstrom ha scritto:
 
 I'm too using Chrome now and have even set it as my default browser. Only 
 thing i have noticed so far is that it seems Chrome can't read pages with 
 frames, that is framesets. IFrames work fine, but when a page is devided 
 into frames, VO acts as if the html content was empty. Anyone else noticed 
 this?
 /Krister
 
 7 feb 2012 kl. 11:32 skrev Simon Cavendish:
 
 Yes, I love Google Chrome and have been using it regularly for a couple of 
 months. Very fast, no busy - ready reports. Only on some websites it does 
 not always report all the labels at which point I switch to Safari. 
 
 Simon
 On 7 Feb 2012, at 06:39, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 
 Hi, all,
 
 Upon a cursory look at vO with Google chrome, I notice no major 
 accessibility booboos. Does anyone else use VO successfully with this app? 
 I'm finding that I don't really care to use a separate voicing app for one 
 particular web browser, because I have to turn off VO, and turn it back on 
 when switching windows, and also, the two text-to-speech chrome 
 extensions, Chromevox and MetalMouth, do not work in parts of the browser 
 other than the page content.
 
 Thanks,
 Teresa
 
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mac mini and speakers?

2012-02-07 Thread Angie Giltinan

Does the mac mini have a built in speaker?
I asked the apple reps at my local apple store, but can't seem to get a strait 
answer.
Thanks in advance for all the help!
Angie

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Re: mac mini and speakers?

2012-02-07 Thread Brian Moore


mine does. two years old but can't imagine they changed that part

Contact me on skype: brian.moore
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On 07/02/2012 7:41 AM, Angie Giltinan wrote:

Does the mac mini have a built in speaker?
I asked the apple reps at my local apple store, but can't seem to get a strait 
answer.
Thanks in advance for all the help!
Angie



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Re: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 25 Messages in 8 Topics

2012-02-07 Thread Chenelle Hancock

 You can v.o right arrow to next and v.o space to select next. Hope this helps  
natt.Y

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 Reading Conversations in Mail [5 Updates]
 coaching software on the mac? [1 Update]
 Facebook on Mac [10 Updates]
 OCR on the mac [1 Update]
 The official Twitter app for iPhone and links... [4 Updates]
 mozy backup service [1 Update]
 Selecting text in Safari [1 Update]
 Audacity or amadeus pro? [2 Updates]
  Reading Conversations in Mail
 Marc Sutton marc...@gmail.com Jan 25 07:50PM -0800  
 
 Hi List,
 When there are multiple messages in a conversation, i have noticed that you 
 can use vo-j to get to all of them. If you press delete the first message is 
 gone and the next one in the stack appears. How can I move between threaded 
 messages without having to delete any of them? Thanks.
 Marc
  
 
 Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com Jan 25 11:30PM -0800  
 
 Hi, Marc,
  
 In the message list, you can expand a conversation by using right-arrow. 
 Also, in the message content area, without interacting with the text, you can 
 VO left and right arrow, and VO will read the entire content of the focussed 
 message to you.
  
 HTH,
 Teresa
  
 Slow down; you'll get there faster.
  
 On Jan 25, 2012, at 7:50 PM, Marc Sutton wrote:
  
  
 
 John Sanfilippo vze33...@verizon.net Jan 26 09:07AM -0500  
 
 yeah, my question also,
 thanks.
  
 js
  
  
 - Original Message - 
 From: Marc Sutton 
 When there are multiple messages in a conversation, i have noticed that you 
 can use vo-j to get to all of them. If you press delete the first message is 
 gone and the next one in the stack appears. How can I move between threaded 
 messages without having to delete any of them? Thanks.
 Marc
  
 
 Tim Kilburn kilbu...@shaw.ca Jan 26 07:29AM -0700  
 
 I use return instead of VO-j. This opens the entire conversation and reads 
 the first one in my stack. I then simply stop interacting with the current 
 message, VO-right and can go through each without deleting any of them.
  
 Later...
  
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 Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net Jan 26 12:51PM -0600  
 
 In the new or classic view?
  
  
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
  
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
  
 Skype name:
 barefootedray
  
 Facebook:
 facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
  
  
  
 On Jan 26, 2012, at 8:29 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
  
  
 
  coaching software on the mac?
 Karen Lewellen klewel...@shellworld.net Jan 26 01:41PM -0500  
 
 Hi all,
 I did a seminar yesterday from a company who trains individuals to be 
 health / life / business / whatever coaches.
 during my follow up session today, I asked if their coaching web portal 
 was w3c / wcag 2.0 compliant.
 I got the usual
 Oh we have blind people using it so...
 response to which I asked, Are you saying all those experiencing sight 
 loss are the same?
 anyway, I am wondering if anyone here may be using this or a comparative 
 program with their mac so I get an idea?
 Thanks,
 Karen
  
 
  Facebook on Mac
 Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com Jan 26 11:12AM +0100  
 
 Hi,
 I use an app called Menutab pro available from the App store. What's good 
 with this app is that you can both get the mobile and the desktop versions of 
 Facebook in the app and toggle between them as you like. The buttons are now 
 clearly labeled and the app, although in the menus normally only reachable by 
 using the physical mouse has a short cut key (by default it's control+f) to 
 reach the app.
 I like it very much.
 HTH
 /Krister
  
 25 jan 2012 kl. 22:32 skrev Kirsten Edmondson:
  
  
 
 Red.Falcon velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com Jan 26 11:55AM  
 
 Just for peoples info if you have the original facetab that is now menutab 
 and you will have to remove facetab and put in the trash and empty it before 
 getting menutab!
 hth Colin
  
 On 26 Jan 2012, at 10:12, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
  
  
 
 Jennifer Perdue jlperd...@gmail.com Jan 26 09:50AM -0600  
 
 Hi,
  
 Could someone explain the purpose of twitter and what it does. Also, could 
 someone tell me the easiest ap of whatever you would use to use twitter. Who 
 would I follow? I am not sure what you do with it?
  
 Thanks for your patience.
  
 Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
 On Jan 26, 2012, at 5:55 AM, Red.Falcon wrote:
  
  
 
 Sean Paul newsandtraf...@aol.com Jan 26 10:55AM -0500  
 
 Heyya Jen:
 Twitter is is what is known as a microblogging platform. The question that 
 is asked by them is. What are you doing? Most all

Re: mac mini and speakers?

Yes it does but, there terrible little things.  You will probably need to plug 
in speakers or use headphones.

Ricardo Walker
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On Feb 7, 2012, at 7:41 AM, Angie Giltinan wrote:

 Does the mac mini have a built in speaker?
 I asked the apple reps at my local apple store, but can't seem to get a 
 strait answer.
 Thanks in advance for all the help!
 Angie
 
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Re: mac mini and speakers?

Hi,

And just to add to this, voiceover works best with a monitor hooked up to a Mac 
mini.  If you were hoping to use your mini without a monitor, your better off 
getting a macbook air, or the macbook pro.

JMO.

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 Angie
 
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Re: Slow boot time with Lion. Opinions wanted.

2012-02-07 Thread Joel Zimba

the recent update seems to have made both boot time and general 
responsiveness better for me.


My computer was very frustrating to use  since upgrading to Lion and now 
it's fine.  Much less of the busy message overall.


Joel


On 2/6/2012 9:42 PM, Daniel Miller wrote:

Hi,

I've reported that issue several times to apple. They're aware of it, and
are working on a fix, at last response from the support people. Things like
this take time, however, so don't expect it to be fixed tomorrow.
Now keep in mind, I also experienced and still am experiencing what you guys
are talking about, but it's honestly no reason to shoot down the OS, for
something that they're obviously trying to fix, even if it takes them a bit
longer than we'd like to pinpoint what's causing the issue.
Another thing you have to keep in mind, Lions minimum system requirements
state 2GB of ram and a 2.0GHZ dual core processor is the bear least you can
get away with and run Lion, but with some slowness. Ram can have a factor in
boot times, as well as hard drive speed (5400 as opposed to 7200 RPM), so be
aware of that fact as well.
-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Missy Hoppe
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 8:10 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Slow boot time with Lion. Opinions wanted.

Hello. I, too, experience incredibly slow boot times with lion. I'm using a
2011 Macbook Pro 724LLA or whatever that model number is, and I'm guessing
your estimate of 1 minute 43 seconds is about the same for my boot time.
More annoying for me than the slow boot time, though, is that under lion, VO
startup is hit and miss at best. When lion first came out, it always got
stuck in come window called com.doc.apple.extra. That got fixed, only to be
replaced by the fact that if VO starts talking by itself at all, I'm stuck
in a window called speech synthesis server. In all the time I've run lion,
it's never landed me on the desktop the way snowy kitty always does, and
more often than not, I have to press command-tab before VO says anything at
all.
So, to make a long story short, it isn't just you, and like you, I've tried
everything I can think of to solve the problem, but nothing seems to make a
difference. It seems that my ancient 80 GB external drive which I still use
to boot into Snow Leopard when necessary runs faster than Lion, and that's
just wrong. So, like you, I'm wondering if there's any point in reporting
this to apple, or if it's something that taking my macbook to an apple store
might fix. I've just learned to live with it, but it's very strange,
especially since Snow Leopard boots so much faster and always reliably
starts on the desktop.
If you ever find a way to speed up lion's boot time, please share as I'd
love to get this issue resolved somehow.
Thanks!
Missy

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Campbell
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 8:33 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Slow boot time with Lion. Opinions wanted.

Hi everyone.
I'm just wondering if any of you are experiencing slow boot times when
running Mac OS 10 Lion on you're Macs?
I did a time estimation just now and found that from the press of the power
button until VO is heard on the log in screen takes roughly 1 minute and 43
seconds.
I'm running a late 2008 unibody MacBook and even though it is an older Mac,
it was never that slow while running SnowLeopard.
I've tried everything I can think of. I've Ran a battery of tasks using
Onyx, I've cleaned out my login items, I've checked free disk space,
repaired permissions, verified the start up disk, etc, etc.
Just wondering if this might be worth sending in a bug report to Apple or
calling Apple Care on this issue.
Let me know what you think.
Thanks and have a great evening,
Matthew Campbell and the slowpoke Mac.

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Re: converting m4a to wav or mp3

2012-02-07 Thread Paul Erkens

Angie,

Yes amadeus pro is in the mac app store.
Paul.
On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:36 PM, Angie Giltinan wrote:

 Wow, that was really helpfull, I was considering purchasing amadeus pro 
 anyway, this may be the good enough reason to do so.
 Can I find it on the app store?
 Thanks!
 
 On Feb 6, 2012, at 2:48 PM, Paul Erkens wrote:
 
 Hi Angie,
 I use amadeus pro all the time. I don't know if you ever used it, but if you 
 already bought it it's a breeze. Just hit command shift n after you start 
 amadeus pro, and a new batch converter window will appear. You have a 
 formats tab, where you set what you want your new files to become, in yor 
 case mp3. You also set the mp3 encoding settings in this tab. In the actions 
 tab, you can pick actions to be performed on the files, like normalization 
 if you want, before being converted. In the other 2 tabs, you can instruct 
 amadeus what to do with meta info such as the file tag and its art work, or 
 you can leave that out altogether if you wish, on your to be created mp3 
 files. Then when you point to a folder to convert, it can also recursively 
 search that folder for all the files it contains, and then do them all in 
 one simple go. You can also tell amadeus to convert a folder, and put all 
 new files in the same location as their originals, and then deleting the 
 originals. If you know what you are doing this can be a breeze. Once you are 
 familiar with the little interface in the batch converter in amadeus pro, 
 you will love it.
 
 If you don't have amadeus then I hope others will chime in on this.
 Hth,
 Paul.
 On Feb 6, 2012, at 7:58 PM, Angie Giltinan wrote:
 
 I opened the file in itunes, started it playing, then went to the advanced 
 menu, but could not find an option to convert to mp3 
 Any more help would be greatly appreciated!
 
 On Feb 6, 2012, at 1:21 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
 
 Can't you do this in iTunes? Load the tracks up, select them in iTunes and 
 then choose Convert to MP3 in the Advanced menu.
 
 CB
 
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 Hi all,
 do any of you know a program to convert m4A audio files to wav or mp3?
 Any info about his would be most helpfull!
 Thanks in advance!
 
 
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Re: cool discovery of keyboard viewer

2012-02-07 Thread Paul Erkens

Hi,
That's wonderful. Worth saving. Thanks for the tip.
Paul.
On Feb 7, 2012, at 1:35 AM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:

 HI all,
 
 For those of you wondering what each key on the keyboard does, especially if 
 you are using multiple layouts for different languages, I thought I would 
 share my nice little mac discovery in case some don't already know it.
 The feature called keyboard viewer is accessible with vo and if not always 
 clear definitely with exploring.
 To enable it:
 1. Go to system preferences
 2.then language and text
 3. select text input source (the 4th tab)
 4. In the input source table check the character and keyboard viewer.
 
 Now you can show the keyboard viewer for our current layout by going to the 
 text input menu.
 You will be presented  with a series of buttons arranged like a keyboard with 
 each of them labeled with its unction. IF you want to see any alternate 
 functions of each letter press option wile vo is on that letter and you will 
 hear what it is.
 
 Hope this makes sense and was useful or interesting for some of you.
 I found out about trademark sign degrees sign and so much more.
 
 Take care,
 
 Ioana
 Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online 
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Re: mac mini and speakers?

2012-02-07 Thread matthew Dyer

Hi Ange,
Yes the mac mini has an inter speeker, but it is not the greatest, but to each 
there own.

Matthew


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instructions on how to use pages with voice over?

2012-02-07 Thread Chenelle Hancock

hi everyone:
i have had my mb pro for about sixteen months now and  for the life of me!. i  
am still having problems using page correctly with voice over etc... i wanted 
to know if there were a list of key board commands that i could use to navigate 
pages?.
thank you so much for your time i really appreciate it.
sincerely, chenelle.

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Re: converting tapes to MP3

Do you have to stop the tape every 10 minutes to divide in to tracks?
On Feb 5, 2012, at 6:19 PM, Eric Caron wrote:

 Hello Sarai ,
 
 There are many different ways to do this on the mac.  I'll outline for you 
 how I do it.  First I have a regular tape deck on a stereo so I purchased the 
 Griffin iMike.  this usb device lets you plug in the output from your stereo 
 or from a mike directly into your computer.  So once you plug a cable with 
 the input into the Mike you will select the setting on the Mike for powered 
 or unpowered.  for a stereo it is unpowered.  I use a cable with two RCA 
 plugs attached to the tape output and on the other end a standard 35 
 millimeter jack like the one on headphones for the iPhone.
 
 Next I use Amadeus pro.  With that program you can input the tape then edit 
 tracks and much more.  I then save in the format of my choice  and my tapes 
 are now digital. 
 
 I do the same thing for vinyl records.
 
 There is a slightly outdated podcast on blindcooltech.com I think I called it 
 Amadeus Pro Vinyl to CD.  It covers a lot of the Amadeus Pro basics. 
 
 If you have a USB tape player then you will not need the Griffin iMike. 
 
 Hope this helps.
 
 eRic Caron 
 
 
 
 On Feb 5, 2012, at 2:50 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
 
 Hi guys:
 Is it possible for a blind person to convert tapes to MP3 files using a Mac 
 with Voiceover? If so, what is needed to do this, and what is the process? 
 
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Re: converting tapes to MP3

Hi:
My dad has a USB tape deck. On the Windows side, he says he has to listen to 
the tape while it is recording, and watch a timer on the screen. Then at 
specific points, he has to create tracks. I want to be able to record on my Mac 
using his USB tape deck, and figure out how to edit the tracks later. That way, 
I could get all of the tapes on the Mac. once those are physically there, I can 
then go edit later. I'm just not sure how you'd do this, or know when to make 
the track. Once everything is edited, I'd like to convert the files to MP3.
On Feb 5, 2012, at 6:20 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

 Hi,
 
 The short answer is, Yes.  You should use Audio High-Jack Pro to bring the 
 music into your Mac.  You would need a typical home stereo tape deck or any 
 tape player with RCA outputs.  I guess that you could use a tape player with 
 a headphone out, but the quality would be diminished when using this method.
 
 My suggestion would be to use the home stereo style tape deck.  Connect a 
 stereo RCA to 1/8 inch headphone jack style cable between the tape deck and 
 the computer.  The RCA jacks connect to the left and right outs from the tape 
 deck and put the 1/8 inch jack into the line-in of the Mac.  Start up Audio 
 High-Jack Pro, select Line-In as your Input source and begin recording.  You 
 can then use Audacity, Amadeus Pro or Fission as your audio editor to trim 
 everything up.
 
 That should do it.
 
 Later...
 
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 Hi guys:
 Is it possible for a blind person to convert tapes to MP3 files using a Mac 
 with Voiceover? If so, what is needed to do this, and what is the process? 
 
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Re: converting tapes to MP3

2012-02-07 Thread Ray Foret Jr

Not at all.  Just let it record all the way  through.  You can do all the track 
deviding later when you're done recording.  In fact, I've done the same with 
vinyl LP records.  after I descratch and denois them, (using RX from Izotope), 
I go back to Amadeus pro and cut out the parts where the record changed sides 
and then, still using amadeus pro, I place all my marks exactly where I want 
them.  Then, I fade out the end of each track and insert silence between each 
track and then, I go through and take out the markers I no longer want and 
then, the fun begins.  I enter the marker window and rename all the markers to 
correspond with each track.  Make sure, by the way, that you place a marker at 
the beginning of the first track when you do this otherwise, that first track 
will not be marked up for devition.  Now, after you've made sure that each 
marker is exactly at the beginning of each track and you've named them, Now, 
you can go in to the sound menu and devide the file according to the markers.  
This opens up a window where you can choose what format you want each segment 
saved in.  Also, be aware that the folder that is created when you do this will 
have the same name as the file from which the other files were taken.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

Skype name:
barefootedray

Facebook:
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On Feb 7, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:

 Do you have to stop the tape every 10 minutes to divide in to tracks?
 On Feb 5, 2012, at 6:19 PM, Eric Caron wrote:
 
 Hello Sarai ,
 
 There are many different ways to do this on the mac.  I'll outline for you 
 how I do it.  First I have a regular tape deck on a stereo so I purchased 
 the Griffin iMike.  this usb device lets you plug in the output from your 
 stereo or from a mike directly into your computer.  So once you plug a cable 
 with the input into the Mike you will select the setting on the Mike for 
 powered or unpowered.  for a stereo it is unpowered.  I use a cable with two 
 RCA plugs attached to the tape output and on the other end a standard 35 
 millimeter jack like the one on headphones for the iPhone.
 
 Next I use Amadeus pro.  With that program you can input the tape then edit 
 tracks and much more.  I then save in the format of my choice  and my tapes 
 are now digital. 
 
 I do the same thing for vinyl records.
 
 There is a slightly outdated podcast on blindcooltech.com I think I called 
 it Amadeus Pro Vinyl to CD.  It covers a lot of the Amadeus Pro basics. 
 
 If you have a USB tape player then you will not need the Griffin iMike. 
 
 Hope this helps.
 
 eRic Caron 
 
 
 
 On Feb 5, 2012, at 2:50 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
 
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 with Voiceover? If so, what is needed to do this, and what is the process? 
 
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Re: utorrent and accessibility?

2012-02-07 Thread Wes Smith

I'm not sure...it just works...didnt change any settings

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:40 PM, Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com wrote:

 ok, how did you manage this? I am running OS X 10.6.4 and all I get is the 
 pulldown menus, toolbar items, empty scorell area and some frame elements.

 also, I attempted to register on the uTorrent forums and was faced with a 
 shockwave flash captcha that won't play sound here.

 so? what settings must I change for accessibility to be usable?

 -eric

 On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:26 PM, Wes Smith wrote:

 Utorrent works fine for me, I can see everything

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:59 PM, Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com wrote:

 I used to use torrent as my default torrent transfer agent (torrent makes 
 getting linux distress so much easier). the only problem is that I cannot 
 find the details pane. I also can't tell when a torrent is done or not. 
 this is so frustrating. it seems that the only torrent client that would be 
 worth anything is reorient (A command line client) but I am missing some 
 libs to make the packages here.

 anyone have any suggestions as far as other accessible torrent clients 
 goes? both torrent and fuze don't display anything other than the toolbars 
 and frame elements.

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Re: converting tapes to MP3

2012-02-07 Thread Marc Sutton

Hi,

I have a Macbook Air. I don't believe it has in input jack. What usb sound 
cards do people recommend  for use in these situations? Thanks.
Marc

On Feb 7, 2012, at 6:57 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

 Not at all.  Just let it record all the way  through.  You can do all the 
 track deviding later when you're done recording.  In fact, I've done the same 
 with vinyl LP records.  after I descratch and denois them, (using RX from 
 Izotope), I go back to Amadeus pro and cut out the parts where the record 
 changed sides and then, still using amadeus pro, I place all my marks exactly 
 where I want them.  Then, I fade out the end of each track and insert silence 
 between each track and then, I go through and take out the markers I no 
 longer want and then, the fun begins.  I enter the marker window and rename 
 all the markers to correspond with each track.  Make sure, by the way, that 
 you place a marker at the beginning of the first track when you do this 
 otherwise, that first track will not be marked up for devition.  Now, after 
 you've made sure that each marker is exactly at the beginning of each track 
 and you've named them, Now, you can go in to the sound menu and devide the 
 file according to the markers.  This opens up a window where you can choose 
 what format you want each segment saved in.  Also, be aware that the folder 
 that is created when you do this will have the same name as the file from 
 which the other files were taken.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype name:
 barefootedray
 
 Facebook:
 facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
 
 
 
 On Feb 7, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
 
 Do you have to stop the tape every 10 minutes to divide in to tracks?
 On Feb 5, 2012, at 6:19 PM, Eric Caron wrote:
 
 Hello Sarai ,
 
 There are many different ways to do this on the mac.  I'll outline for you 
 how I do it.  First I have a regular tape deck on a stereo so I purchased 
 the Griffin iMike.  this usb device lets you plug in the output from your 
 stereo or from a mike directly into your computer.  So once you plug a 
 cable with the input into the Mike you will select the setting on the Mike 
 for powered or unpowered.  for a stereo it is unpowered.  I use a cable 
 with two RCA plugs attached to the tape output and on the other end a 
 standard 35 millimeter jack like the one on headphones for the iPhone.
 
 Next I use Amadeus pro.  With that program you can input the tape then edit 
 tracks and much more.  I then save in the format of my choice  and my tapes 
 are now digital. 
 
 I do the same thing for vinyl records.
 
 There is a slightly outdated podcast on blindcooltech.com I think I called 
 it Amadeus Pro Vinyl to CD.  It covers a lot of the Amadeus Pro basics. 
 
 If you have a USB tape player then you will not need the Griffin iMike. 
 
 Hope this helps.
 
 eRic Caron 
 
 
 
 On Feb 5, 2012, at 2:50 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
 
 Hi guys:
 Is it possible for a blind person to convert tapes to MP3 files using a 
 Mac with Voiceover? If so, what is needed to do this, and what is the 
 process? 
 
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Re: converting tapes to MP3

2012-02-07 Thread Ray Foret Jr

Canpt go wrong with the Griphin Imic.  A nice little unit that has an input 
jack which is swichable between Mic and linein and an earphone jack also.  The 
USB corde, (built in) is a little on the short side.


Sincerely,
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Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

Skype name:
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Facebook:
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On Feb 7, 2012, at 9:06 AM, Marc Sutton wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I have a Macbook Air. I don't believe it has in input jack. What usb sound 
 cards do people recommend  for use in these situations? Thanks.
 Marc
 
 On Feb 7, 2012, at 6:57 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 Not at all.  Just let it record all the way  through.  You can do all the 
 track deviding later when you're done recording.  In fact, I've done the 
 same with vinyl LP records.  after I descratch and denois them, (using RX 
 from Izotope), I go back to Amadeus pro and cut out the parts where the 
 record changed sides and then, still using amadeus pro, I place all my marks 
 exactly where I want them.  Then, I fade out the end of each track and 
 insert silence between each track and then, I go through and take out the 
 markers I no longer want and then, the fun begins.  I enter the marker 
 window and rename all the markers to correspond with each track.  Make sure, 
 by the way, that you place a marker at the beginning of the first track when 
 you do this otherwise, that first track will not be marked up for devition.  
 Now, after you've made sure that each marker is exactly at the beginning of 
 each track and you've named them, Now, you can go in to the sound menu and 
 devide the file according to the markers.  This opens up a window where you 
 can choose what format you want each segment saved in.  Also, be aware that 
 the folder that is created when you do this will have the same name as the 
 file from which the other files were taken.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype name:
 barefootedray
 
 Facebook:
 facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
 
 
 
 On Feb 7, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
 
 Do you have to stop the tape every 10 minutes to divide in to tracks?
 On Feb 5, 2012, at 6:19 PM, Eric Caron wrote:
 
 Hello Sarai ,
 
 There are many different ways to do this on the mac.  I'll outline for you 
 how I do it.  First I have a regular tape deck on a stereo so I purchased 
 the Griffin iMike.  this usb device lets you plug in the output from your 
 stereo or from a mike directly into your computer.  So once you plug a 
 cable with the input into the Mike you will select the setting on the Mike 
 for powered or unpowered.  for a stereo it is unpowered.  I use a cable 
 with two RCA plugs attached to the tape output and on the other end a 
 standard 35 millimeter jack like the one on headphones for the iPhone.
 
 Next I use Amadeus pro.  With that program you can input the tape then 
 edit tracks and much more.  I then save in the format of my choice  and my 
 tapes are now digital. 
 
 I do the same thing for vinyl records.
 
 There is a slightly outdated podcast on blindcooltech.com I think I called 
 it Amadeus Pro Vinyl to CD.  It covers a lot of the Amadeus Pro basics. 
 
 If you have a USB tape player then you will not need the Griffin iMike. 
 
 Hope this helps.
 
 eRic Caron 
 
 
 
 On Feb 5, 2012, at 2:50 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
 
 Hi guys:
 Is it possible for a blind person to convert tapes to MP3 files using a 
 Mac with Voiceover? If so, what is needed to do this, and what is the 
 process? 
 
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Re: converting tapes to MP3

2012-02-07 Thread Matt Dierckens

I would suggest, get a standard patch chord, one that has both 8th inch jacks 
at the end of it. Just plug one end into linein on the mac and the other end 
into the stereo or tape deck, and just record in audio highjack. It's definetly 
worth the price.

Matt
Sent from my macbook pro

On 2012-02-07, at 10:18 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

 Canpt go wrong with the Griphin Imic.  A nice little unit that has an input 
 jack which is swichable between Mic and linein and an earphone jack also.  
 The USB corde, (built in) is a little on the short side.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype name:
 barefootedray
 
 Facebook:
 facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
 
 
 
 On Feb 7, 2012, at 9:06 AM, Marc Sutton wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I have a Macbook Air. I don't believe it has in input jack. What usb sound 
 cards do people recommend  for use in these situations? Thanks.
 Marc
 
 On Feb 7, 2012, at 6:57 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 Not at all.  Just let it record all the way  through.  You can do all the 
 track deviding later when you're done recording.  In fact, I've done the 
 same with vinyl LP records.  after I descratch and denois them, (using RX 
 from Izotope), I go back to Amadeus pro and cut out the parts where the 
 record changed sides and then, still using amadeus pro, I place all my 
 marks exactly where I want them.  Then, I fade out the end of each track 
 and insert silence between each track and then, I go through and take out 
 the markers I no longer want and then, the fun begins.  I enter the marker 
 window and rename all the markers to correspond with each track.  Make 
 sure, by the way, that you place a marker at the beginning of the first 
 track when you do this otherwise, that first track will not be marked up 
 for devition.  Now, after you've made sure that each marker is exactly at 
 the beginning of each track and you've named them, Now, you can go in to 
 the sound menu and devide the file according to the markers.  This opens up 
 a window where you can choose what format you want each segment saved in.  
 Also, be aware that the folder that is created when you do this will have 
 the same name as the file from which the other files were taken.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype name:
 barefootedray
 
 Facebook:
 facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
 
 
 
 On Feb 7, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
 
 Do you have to stop the tape every 10 minutes to divide in to tracks?
 On Feb 5, 2012, at 6:19 PM, Eric Caron wrote:
 
 Hello Sarai ,
 
 There are many different ways to do this on the mac.  I'll outline for 
 you how I do it.  First I have a regular tape deck on a stereo so I 
 purchased the Griffin iMike.  this usb device lets you plug in the output 
 from your stereo or from a mike directly into your computer.  So once you 
 plug a cable with the input into the Mike you will select the setting on 
 the Mike for powered or unpowered.  for a stereo it is unpowered.  I use 
 a cable with two RCA plugs attached to the tape output and on the other 
 end a standard 35 millimeter jack like the one on headphones for the 
 iPhone.
 
 Next I use Amadeus pro.  With that program you can input the tape then 
 edit tracks and much more.  I then save in the format of my choice  and 
 my tapes are now digital. 
 
 I do the same thing for vinyl records.
 
 There is a slightly outdated podcast on blindcooltech.com I think I 
 called it Amadeus Pro Vinyl to CD.  It covers a lot of the Amadeus Pro 
 basics. 
 
 If you have a USB tape player then you will not need the Griffin iMike. 
 
 Hope this helps.
 
 eRic Caron 
 
 
 
 On Feb 5, 2012, at 2:50 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
 
 Hi guys:
 Is it possible for a blind person to convert tapes to MP3 files using a 
 Mac with Voiceover? If so, what is needed to do this, and what is the 
 process? 
 
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Re: converting tapes to MP3

Hi,

sure the Macbook air does.  Its just that input and output is handled by the 
same jack.  Go to systempreferences/sounds and you can select if the headphone 
jack is used for input or output.

hth

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Feb 7, 2012, at 10:06 AM, Marc Sutton wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I have a Macbook Air. I don't believe it has in input jack. What usb sound 
 cards do people recommend  for use in these situations? Thanks.
 Marc
 
 On Feb 7, 2012, at 6:57 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 Not at all.  Just let it record all the way  through.  You can do all the 
 track deviding later when you're done recording.  In fact, I've done the 
 same with vinyl LP records.  after I descratch and denois them, (using RX 
 from Izotope), I go back to Amadeus pro and cut out the parts where the 
 record changed sides and then, still using amadeus pro, I place all my marks 
 exactly where I want them.  Then, I fade out the end of each track and 
 insert silence between each track and then, I go through and take out the 
 markers I no longer want and then, the fun begins.  I enter the marker 
 window and rename all the markers to correspond with each track.  Make sure, 
 by the way, that you place a marker at the beginning of the first track when 
 you do this otherwise, that first track will not be marked up for devition.  
 Now, after you've made sure that each marker is exactly at the beginning of 
 each track and you've named them, Now, you can go in to the sound menu and 
 devide the file according to the markers.  This opens up a window where you 
 can choose what format you want each segment saved in.  Also, be aware that 
 the folder that is created when you do this will have the same name as the 
 file from which the other files were taken.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype name:
 barefootedray
 
 Facebook:
 facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
 
 
 
 On Feb 7, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
 
 Do you have to stop the tape every 10 minutes to divide in to tracks?
 On Feb 5, 2012, at 6:19 PM, Eric Caron wrote:
 
 Hello Sarai ,
 
 There are many different ways to do this on the mac.  I'll outline for you 
 how I do it.  First I have a regular tape deck on a stereo so I purchased 
 the Griffin iMike.  this usb device lets you plug in the output from your 
 stereo or from a mike directly into your computer.  So once you plug a 
 cable with the input into the Mike you will select the setting on the Mike 
 for powered or unpowered.  for a stereo it is unpowered.  I use a cable 
 with two RCA plugs attached to the tape output and on the other end a 
 standard 35 millimeter jack like the one on headphones for the iPhone.
 
 Next I use Amadeus pro.  With that program you can input the tape then 
 edit tracks and much more.  I then save in the format of my choice  and my 
 tapes are now digital. 
 
 I do the same thing for vinyl records.
 
 There is a slightly outdated podcast on blindcooltech.com I think I called 
 it Amadeus Pro Vinyl to CD.  It covers a lot of the Amadeus Pro basics. 
 
 If you have a USB tape player then you will not need the Griffin iMike. 
 
 Hope this helps.
 
 eRic Caron 
 
 
 
 On Feb 5, 2012, at 2:50 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
 
 Hi guys:
 Is it possible for a blind person to convert tapes to MP3 files using a 
 Mac with Voiceover? If so, what is needed to do this, and what is the 
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Re: converting tapes to MP3

2012-02-07 Thread Marc Sutton

Hi,
Actually the 2011 models do not support this. The only choice available for 
input is the built-in mic.
Marc

On Feb 7, 2012, at 7:24 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

 Hi,
 
 sure the Macbook air does.  Its just that input and output is handled by the 
 same jack.  Go to systempreferences/sounds and you can select if the 
 headphone jack is used for input or output.
 
 hth
 
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 On Feb 7, 2012, at 10:06 AM, Marc Sutton wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I have a Macbook Air. I don't believe it has in input jack. What usb sound 
 cards do people recommend  for use in these situations? Thanks.
 Marc
 
 On Feb 7, 2012, at 6:57 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 Not at all.  Just let it record all the way  through.  You can do all the 
 track deviding later when you're done recording.  In fact, I've done the 
 same with vinyl LP records.  after I descratch and denois them, (using RX 
 from Izotope), I go back to Amadeus pro and cut out the parts where the 
 record changed sides and then, still using amadeus pro, I place all my 
 marks exactly where I want them.  Then, I fade out the end of each track 
 and insert silence between each track and then, I go through and take out 
 the markers I no longer want and then, the fun begins.  I enter the marker 
 window and rename all the markers to correspond with each track.  Make 
 sure, by the way, that you place a marker at the beginning of the first 
 track when you do this otherwise, that first track will not be marked up 
 for devition.  Now, after you've made sure that each marker is exactly at 
 the beginning of each track and you've named them, Now, you can go in to 
 the sound menu and devide the file according to the markers.  This opens up 
 a window where you can choose what format you want each segment saved in.  
 Also, be aware that the folder that is created when you do this will have 
 the same name as the file from which the other files were taken.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype name:
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 On Feb 7, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
 
 Do you have to stop the tape every 10 minutes to divide in to tracks?
 On Feb 5, 2012, at 6:19 PM, Eric Caron wrote:
 
 Hello Sarai ,
 
 There are many different ways to do this on the mac.  I'll outline for 
 you how I do it.  First I have a regular tape deck on a stereo so I 
 purchased the Griffin iMike.  this usb device lets you plug in the output 
 from your stereo or from a mike directly into your computer.  So once you 
 plug a cable with the input into the Mike you will select the setting on 
 the Mike for powered or unpowered.  for a stereo it is unpowered.  I use 
 a cable with two RCA plugs attached to the tape output and on the other 
 end a standard 35 millimeter jack like the one on headphones for the 
 iPhone.
 
 Next I use Amadeus pro.  With that program you can input the tape then 
 edit tracks and much more.  I then save in the format of my choice  and 
 my tapes are now digital. 
 
 I do the same thing for vinyl records.
 
 There is a slightly outdated podcast on blindcooltech.com I think I 
 called it Amadeus Pro Vinyl to CD.  It covers a lot of the Amadeus Pro 
 basics. 
 
 If you have a USB tape player then you will not need the Griffin iMike. 
 
 Hope this helps.
 
 eRic Caron 
 
 
 
 On Feb 5, 2012, at 2:50 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
 
 Hi guys:
 Is it possible for a blind person to convert tapes to MP3 files using a 
 Mac with Voiceover? If so, what is needed to do this, and what is the 
 process? 
 
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That's the same reason I first figured it out was to keep the kids from
messing up my wife's laptop when they were watching movies and such. I
also did the parental controls stuff to keep them from accidentally
deleting things.

On 2/6/12 6:42 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

Well I answered my own question and thanks a lot gents. I set this up and it
works exactly as I had hoped. In fact the really great side benefit is the
library has only those things my wife and kid want which is the movies. Now we
don't even need the DVD player. :)

On Feb 6, 2012, at 1:30 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

You can be logged into one box multiple times as different users, each running a copy of iTunes. Each instance of
iTunes has it's own library and preferences. So I was logged into my laptop both as myself and an account I
called Test. Each one ran iTunes and had sharing turned on. Then on another Mac I pulled up iTunes and saw both
Chris Blouch's Library and Test's Library as choices. You'll want to turn on Show fast
user switching menu in the Preferences Users Groups Login Options. Then you'll have a new user
menu to the right of the clock in the menu bar (VO-M twice and the VO-right a couple times). You should be
able to pick each user in turn there to switch back and forth. As a new account you'll need to turn voiceover on
again along with any other favorite preference changes since it will all be stock.

On 2/6/12 12:03 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

Chris,

Yes I understand that is possible, but unfortunately and unless I am missing
something here, the issue is I would have to log in as that user and launch
iTunes. THis means I could not be logged in as myself because it would not be
possible to effectively have two instances of iTUnes running.

On Feb 6, 2012, at 11:54 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

I'm saying you can have two different users both logged into the same Mac and
both with their own instance of iTunes running. Give it a try by creating a
second account and then switching to that user without logging out of the
current user. If you launch iTunes you'll find a pristine library with settings
all its own.

On 2/6/12 10:45 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

Chris,

Yes a Mini would work in this case, but not looking to go that route. I'm done
buying computers for a while. :)
So, with that said my wife is a user on my Mac. I could obviously log in as her
and setup iTunes and that would work great. However, I do not know how I could
have us both logged into the same machine and I think what you are saying is
you have two different Macs in this scenario?
Seems to me the problem is that iTunes has to be running and that library
active. If I could get around that I probably would solve my problem. :)

THanks,
On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

As an aside, an old MacMini would also make a nice media computer if you want
real storage and more than what an AppleTV will get you. The headphone jack is
actually a digital optical output which you can connect to any typical
surround-sound stereo to get the full 5.1 output from DVDs and such.

That said, I did try just duplicating the iTunes app to try and run two
instances, but no luck, they share the same preference files. What did work was
setting up another user on my Mac and having that second user logged in running
iTunes. That instance had it's own library and preferences so I could share two
libraries from the same machine with two users logged in.

On 2/6/12 10:11 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi Scott,

If you had a 1st Generation Apple TV with the built-in HD, this would work as
once the Apple TV is synced, you wouldn't need to have the iTunes Library
actually active. Now, of course, they're hard to find now and you need sighted
assistance to set them up, but after that, you'd be golden. I was also
thinking about iTunes Match on the 2nd Gen Apple TV, you'd be able to use a
matched Library in that situation except, at the moment, it only applies to
iTunes music files, not movie and TV shows. You might also have volume
restrictions from your ISP that could interfere with this idea as well.

Not helping much, am I?

Hmmm, you could stoop to putting Windows on your Mac as well so that you could
run Fusion or Parallels, thus having two Libraries running simultaneously from
the same machine. I don't particularly care for Windows though, even though I
have to use it at work sometimes.

I'll think some more and let you know if I come up with anything.

Later...

On 2012-02-06, at 4:34 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

Tim and Ricardo,

I figured out how to do this, but sadly I ran into one problem that I suspect
there is no solution for. In order to make this Home SHaring thing work you
have to have iTunes running and that library active which means I cannot use my
library. So, it amounts to all or nothing. So, that idea ain't gonna work.

THanks,

On Feb 6, 2012, at 6:02 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

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On Feb 7, 2012, at 10:27 AM, Marc Sutton wrote:

 Hi,
 Actually the 2011 models do not support this. The only choice available for 
 input is the built-in mic.
 Marc
 
 On Feb 7, 2012, at 7:24 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 sure the Macbook air does.  Its just that input and output is handled by the 
 same jack.  Go to systempreferences/sounds and you can select if the 
 headphone jack is used for input or output.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Feb 7, 2012, at 10:06 AM, Marc Sutton wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I have a Macbook Air. I don't believe it has in input jack. What usb sound 
 cards do people recommend  for use in these situations? Thanks.
 Marc
 
 On Feb 7, 2012, at 6:57 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 Not at all.  Just let it record all the way  through.  You can do all the 
 track deviding later when you're done recording.  In fact, I've done the 
 same with vinyl LP records.  after I descratch and denois them, (using RX 
 from Izotope), I go back to Amadeus pro and cut out the parts where the 
 record changed sides and then, still using amadeus pro, I place all my 
 marks exactly where I want them.  Then, I fade out the end of each track 
 and insert silence between each track and then, I go through and take out 
 the markers I no longer want and then, the fun begins.  I enter the marker 
 window and rename all the markers to correspond with each track.  Make 
 sure, by the way, that you place a marker at the beginning of the first 
 track when you do this otherwise, that first track will not be marked up 
 for devition.  Now, after you've made sure that each marker is exactly at 
 the beginning of each track and you've named them, Now, you can go in to 
 the sound menu and devide the file according to the markers.  This opens 
 up a window where you can choose what format you want each segment saved 
 in.  Also, be aware that the folder that is created when you do this will 
 have the same name as the file from which the other files were taken.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype name:
 barefootedray
 
 Facebook:
 facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
 
 
 
 On Feb 7, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
 
 Do you have to stop the tape every 10 minutes to divide in to tracks?
 On Feb 5, 2012, at 6:19 PM, Eric Caron wrote:
 
 Hello Sarai ,
 
 There are many different ways to do this on the mac.  I'll outline for 
 you how I do it.  First I have a regular tape deck on a stereo so I 
 purchased the Griffin iMike.  this usb device lets you plug in the 
 output from your stereo or from a mike directly into your computer.  So 
 once you plug a cable with the input into the Mike you will select the 
 setting on the Mike for powered or unpowered.  for a stereo it is 
 unpowered.  I use a cable with two RCA plugs attached to the tape output 
 and on the other end a standard 35 millimeter jack like the one on 
 headphones for the iPhone.
 
 Next I use Amadeus pro.  With that program you can input the tape then 
 edit tracks and much more.  I then save in the format of my choice  and 
 my tapes are now digital. 
 
 I do the same thing for vinyl records.
 
 There is a slightly outdated podcast on blindcooltech.com I think I 
 called it Amadeus Pro Vinyl to CD.  It covers a lot of the Amadeus Pro 
 basics. 
 
 If you have a USB tape player then you will not need the Griffin iMike. 
 
 Hope this helps.
 
 eRic Caron 
 
 
 
 On Feb 5, 2012, at 2:50 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
 
 Hi guys:
 Is it possible for a blind person to convert tapes to MP3 files using a 
 Mac with Voiceover? If so, what is needed to do this, and what is the 
 process? 
 
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CyberSound Music Studio VO friendly, worth it?

2012-02-07 Thread Mark BurningHawk Baxter

Just as it says; I'm wondering whether it's worth my time to acquire CyberSound 
Music Studio with keyboard.  Is it VO friendly, too old (All the reviews on the 
web I can find are from about 2004), etc?  Anyone with experience in this, 
thanks for a tip.


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Re: Anyone Using Google Chrome with VO?

2012-02-07 Thread Larry Skutchan

Chrome works great with VO and is a very very nice browser. Once in a great 
while, it is necessary to use Safari for some accessibility reason, but most of 
the time, Chrome rocks.

On Feb 7, 2012, at 1:39 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

 Hi, all,
 
 Upon a cursory look at vO with Google chrome, I notice no major accessibility 
 booboos. Does anyone else use VO successfully with this app? I'm finding that 
 I don't really care to use a separate voicing app for one particular web 
 browser, because I have to turn off VO, and turn it back on when switching 
 windows, and also, the two text-to-speech chrome extensions, Chromevox and 
 MetalMouth, do not work in parts of the browser other than the page content.
 
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Re: Anyone Using Google Chrome with VO?

2012-02-07 Thread Elena Brescacin

I think it's a good browser, too
but I stopped using it when I found some third-party extensions that
were not vo-friendly
for example the ones to listen to last.fm radio, and I had a problem
also in the home banking service I am using
for other sites it's OK



2012/2/7, Larry Skutchan blindcoolt...@gmail.com:
 Chrome works great with VO and is a very very nice browser. Once in a great
 while, it is necessary to use Safari for some accessibility reason, but most
 of the time, Chrome rocks.

 On Feb 7, 2012, at 1:39 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

 Hi, all,

 Upon a cursory look at vO with Google chrome, I notice no major
 accessibility booboos. Does anyone else use VO successfully with this app?
 I'm finding that I don't really care to use a separate voicing app for one
 particular web browser, because I have to turn off VO, and turn it back on
 when switching windows, and also, the two text-to-speech chrome
 extensions, Chromevox and MetalMouth, do not work in parts of the browser
 other than the page content.

 Thanks,
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Re: question about spell check

2012-02-07 Thread Anne Robertson

Hello Gigi,

On 6 Feb 2012, at 23:35, Eugenia Firth wrote:
 I know the command semicolon is the command to call up spell checking. What 
 is the command to replace the misspelled word with the correct one?

You just press VO-Shift-m to get a contextual menu and select the word you want.

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Re: Creating Presentations USING KeyNote

2012-02-07 Thread Anne Robertson

Hello Ezzie,

On 7 Feb 2012, at 06:58, ezzie bueno wrote:
 
 Can you lovely people please help me with the basics of creating PowerPoint 
 presentations using KeyNote? I've never created a presentation before.

I'm afraid the answer is much too complicated to put into an e-mail message. 
Most people take a course to learn how to do presentations.

Have you listened to the VoiceOver On podcast that covered this? It might at 
least give you some idea.

I can tell you that it's perfectly possible to create presentations in KeyNote 
using VO.

Will your presentation include pictures or graphics? Or will it just be text?

Cheers,

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Re: Bugs in Mail

If you are doing this in gmail, do look at your All mail folder; if
your deleted messages are remaining behind in there, you may have
thousands of them.  that happened to me before I realized that
deleting messages in traditional IMAP does not work the same way in
gmail.  They have to be moved to Trash to truely be rid of them.

On 2/6/12, Chris Westbrook westbch...@gmail.com wrote:
 That's weird, I'm using imap with gmail and when I delete a message thread,
 not sure where it goes lol but it is gone from my mailbox at least.
 On Feb 6, 2012, at 12:13 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:

 I find with gmail and IMAP, the best way to Delete messages for good
 is to Move them to Trash while in a mail client.  Yes, there is a
 delete function on the web site which actually deletes messages (if
 trueth be known, it moves them to trash too).  Anyway, that's what I
 do in mutt, thunderbird, mail app on both mac and iPod.

 On 2/6/12, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote:
 This may not be a bug in Mail, but the imap implementation such as found
 with Gmail.

 On Feb 6, 2012, at 11:37 AM, Becky Knaub wrote:

 Hi Guys,
 Has anyone noticed that when you delete messages they don't leave the
 mail
 box unless you close and reopen the app? So if anyone's had this problem
 besides me after I updated? If so does anyone know how to get rid of it?

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Re: utorrent and accessibility?

regarding utorrent. I use it myself and have no problems with it. please be 
advised to upgrade to 10.6.8 for better accessibility within certain app 
environments.

I swear by utorrent for recovery data volumes and other software through 
official distributors like linux, etc. love it to bits.

anyway enough from e.

lew

On 7 Feb 2012, at 15:00, Wes Smith wrote:

 I'm not sure...it just works...didnt change any settings
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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 ok, how did you manage this? I am running OS X 10.6.4 and all I get is the 
 pulldown menus, toolbar items, empty scorell area and some frame elements.
 
 also, I attempted to register on the uTorrent forums and was faced with a 
 shockwave flash captcha that won't play sound here.
 
 so? what settings must I change for accessibility to be usable?
 
 -eric
 
 On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:26 PM, Wes Smith wrote:
 
 Utorrent works fine for me, I can see everything
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:59 PM, Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I used to use torrent as my default torrent transfer agent (torrent makes 
 getting linux distress so much easier). the only problem is that I cannot 
 find the details pane. I also can't tell when a torrent is done or not. 
 this is so frustrating. it seems that the only torrent client that would 
 be worth anything is reorient (A command line client) but I am missing 
 some libs to make the packages here.
 
 anyone have any suggestions as far as other accessible torrent clients 
 goes? both torrent and fuze don't display anything other than the toolbars 
 and frame elements.
 
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Voiceover text edit Save As bug

There is a bug where saving a file with a non-default extension pops a 
verification modal dialog but Voiceover does not announce this and focus 
can't be moved to it. Discovered on OSX 10.7 latest public patch level. 
Reproduced on multiple machines.


Steps to reproduce:

1. Turn on Voiceover

2. Launch TextEdit

3. Type some text

4. Save As...

5. Name the document something with an extension such as test.html

TextEdit pops a dialog saying that I can't save the document with .html 
as it needs to be .rtf. Or if I have set things up for plaintext it pops 
a similar dialog asking if I would like a .txt extension instead.


Expected Behavior
Focus should move to the modal dialog and announce the message and 
available buttons


Actual behavior
Focus remains on the initial file save as pane, users can continue to 
interact with it such as continuing to change the file name and action 
the Save button. There is no indication of a modal popup requiring 
action to continue and there is no way to move focus to the modal even 
if the VO user knew it was there.


Please advise when this will be fixed.

CB

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Re: Hi

Welcome Don, Looks like both you and I are both new to macs.  I bought
a Mac mini a few weeks ago and have been using it without a monitor.
These other comments about system lags and all haven't bitten me yet
but then again, I've used it little so far.  The main issue without a
monitor is when you login, you can have VO startup during the login
screen but once logged into your account, you have to turn VO back on;
minor hassle for me since I don't have a spare monitor to hook up and
I tried to go the budget route with this purchase.  It is doable
though.  But if you have a monitor to use then by all means, go for
it; probably better off doing that.

On 2/7/12, Don Breda don.br...@gmail.com wrote:
 Wow! Thanks for all the responses. I really appreciate it.

 For now  I guess I will connect my monitor and not rely just on an
 adapter being present.

 Not the worst thing in the world but like others, I hope apple fixes
 this in a future OS release.

 Lets hope it doesn't require different hardware but I doubt it.

 Don


 On 2/7/2012 4:53 AM, Charlie Doremus wrote:
  The general consensus is that it is best to have some kind of monitor
 connected to a Mac Mini, or at least, with the newer models. Early on,
 one could get away with having just a video adaptor connected, but
 apparently, at this point, especially using Safari, there seems to be
 a lot of lag and slow down to lead most to believe a monitor is the
 best solution.

 On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com
 mailto:scottn3...@gmail.com wrote:

 You need to have the monitor connected, but not powered on. I am
 not sure about it being actually plugged into the wall, so give it
 a try.
 ENjoy your new Mini. I just purchased one and really like it.

 On Feb 7, 2012, at 4:12 AM, Don Breda wrote:

  Hi there.
 
  I am new to the list and don't have a mac yet but my mac mini is
 coming tomorrow.
  I have been concerned about this monitor issue and only just
 joined the list so my apologies in advance for a subject that has
 probably been beaten to death.
 
  1. Do I need to have a nomitor connected?
  2. If so does it need to have power applied and if so does it
 need to actually be turned on?
 
  3. without a monitor how does the accessibility change? Does the
 screen layout in an application change, etc.?
 
  Thanks very much for this because I need to do some testing to
 make sure a program is accessible on the mac for my employer.
 
  Don
 
 
 
  On 2/5/2012 1:56 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:
  On Sun, Feb 05, 2012 at 04:57:49PM +, chris hallsworth wrote:
  Thanks Lu, ar I see. Well the Mac Mini I will possibly pass on
 then
  if VO requires a monitor.
  Well, the only issue I see without a monitor connected to the
 Mini is
  you have to force VO back on with the Commend+F5 key after
 logging in;
  minur nusince but I can live with it.  For me, it was the money.  I
  bought the Mini for $695 or so where the macbooks are well over
 $1,000
  so I went the cheapest route possible for now.  I just got into the
  Mac world about 3 weeks ago so maybe in the future with more
 money, I
  would expand the mac collection to include a powerful macbook
 pro or
  something.
 
  Just to note though, the lack of a monitor with a mac mini
 brings up
  only minor inconveniences in case you're trying to save some money.
 
 
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Re: Hi

The mac looks at sense pins on the VGA connection which is basically 
some resisters bridging certain pins together. So this is a passive 
detection and should work even if the monitor is not plugged in or 
turned on. Back in the day some sites sold VGA Terminators which was a 
little dongle with these resisters soldered to the right pins but every 
vendor I found nowdays no longer stocks them. You could make your own if 
you're handy with a soldering iron or know somebody who is, but I've 
never tried that. Extron part #26-106-01 seems to be the thing but I 
couldn't find anyone online selling it. List price from Extron is $60 
just for that little piece. CDW sells something called a VGA terminator 
for $32 but gives no details so it's hard to say what it really is:


http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/MINICOM-VGA-TERMINATOR-F-CATLINC-VGA/1681126.aspx

so if somebody wants to risk $30 to give that a whirl, it would be nice 
to know there is a supplier.


CB

On 2/7/12 4:14 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

You need to have the monitor connected, but not powered on. I am not sure about 
it being actually plugged into the wall, so give it a try.
ENjoy your new Mini. I just purchased one and really like it.

On Feb 7, 2012, at 4:12 AM, Don Breda wrote:


Hi there.

I am new to the list and don't have a mac yet but my mac mini is coming 
tomorrow.
I have been concerned about this monitor issue and only just joined the list so 
my apologies in advance for a subject that has probably been beaten to death.

1. Do I need to have a nomitor connected?
2. If so does it need to have power applied and if so does it need to actually 
be turned on?

3. without a monitor how does the accessibility change? Does the screen layout 
in an application change, etc.?

Thanks very much for this because I need to do some testing to make sure a 
program is accessible on the mac for my employer.

Don



On 2/5/2012 1:56 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:

On Sun, Feb 05, 2012 at 04:57:49PM +, chris hallsworth wrote:

Thanks Lu, ar I see. Well the Mac Mini I will possibly pass on then
if VO requires a monitor.

Well, the only issue I see without a monitor connected to the Mini is
you have to force VO back on with the Commend+F5 key after logging in;
minur nusince but I can live with it.  For me, it was the money.  I
bought the Mini for $695 or so where the macbooks are well over $1,000
so I went the cheapest route possible for now.  I just got into the
Mac world about 3 weeks ago so maybe in the future with more money, I
would expand the mac collection to include a powerful macbook pro or
something.

Just to note though, the lack of a monitor with a mac mini brings up
only minor inconveniences in case you're trying to save some money.


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Re: Slow boot time with Lion. Opinions wanted.

Due to my newness to the mac, I can't compare with prior versions of
OS X but one observation I do concur with is the lack of focus to the
desktop when VO is started.  I found a work-around for that one though
and I never suffer that one anymore.  I added at least one item to my
list of items to launch at login.  I do this in the user settings
under system preferences.  In my case, I added the terminal app in
there because I like to use terminal from time to time so I figured it
a good choice.  Now whenever I login, I just press command+f5 to start
VO (this is due to me not having a monitor connected) VO starts up
every time and focuses me right to the desktop.  Oh, I have the
checkbox for terminal set to hide otherwise I think terminal would
grab the focus.  I thought the boot time to be a bit lengthy byt a lot
of windows systems are slower than that.  I've only seen the busy
stuff once in a while; wasn't sure what the cause of that was.  I see
that a lot with Mail and IMAP implementations and I figured that was
caused by fetching a new message every time you move up and down the
message list.

On 2/7/12, Joel Zimba zimbameis...@gmail.com wrote:
 the recent update seems to have made both boot time and general
 responsiveness better for me.

 My computer was very frustrating to use  since upgrading to Lion and now
 it's fine.  Much less of the busy message overall.

 Joel


 On 2/6/2012 9:42 PM, Daniel Miller wrote:
 Hi,

 I've reported that issue several times to apple. They're aware of it, and
 are working on a fix, at last response from the support people. Things
 like
 this take time, however, so don't expect it to be fixed tomorrow.
 Now keep in mind, I also experienced and still am experiencing what you
 guys
 are talking about, but it's honestly no reason to shoot down the OS, for
 something that they're obviously trying to fix, even if it takes them a
 bit
 longer than we'd like to pinpoint what's causing the issue.
 Another thing you have to keep in mind, Lions minimum system requirements
 state 2GB of ram and a 2.0GHZ dual core processor is the bear least you
 can
 get away with and run Lion, but with some slowness. Ram can have a factor
 in
 boot times, as well as hard drive speed (5400 as opposed to 7200 RPM), so
 be
 aware of that fact as well.
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Missy Hoppe
 Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 8:10 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Slow boot time with Lion. Opinions wanted.

 Hello. I, too, experience incredibly slow boot times with lion. I'm using
 a
 2011 Macbook Pro 724LLA or whatever that model number is, and I'm guessing
 your estimate of 1 minute 43 seconds is about the same for my boot time.
 More annoying for me than the slow boot time, though, is that under lion,
 VO
 startup is hit and miss at best. When lion first came out, it always got
 stuck in come window called com.doc.apple.extra. That got fixed, only to
 be
 replaced by the fact that if VO starts talking by itself at all, I'm stuck
 in a window called speech synthesis server. In all the time I've run lion,
 it's never landed me on the desktop the way snowy kitty always does, and
 more often than not, I have to press command-tab before VO says anything
 at
 all.
 So, to make a long story short, it isn't just you, and like you, I've
 tried
 everything I can think of to solve the problem, but nothing seems to make
 a
 difference. It seems that my ancient 80 GB external drive which I still
 use
 to boot into Snow Leopard when necessary runs faster than Lion, and that's
 just wrong. So, like you, I'm wondering if there's any point in reporting
 this to apple, or if it's something that taking my macbook to an apple
 store
 might fix. I've just learned to live with it, but it's very strange,
 especially since Snow Leopard boots so much faster and always reliably
 starts on the desktop.
 If you ever find a way to speed up lion's boot time, please share as I'd
 love to get this issue resolved somehow.
 Thanks!
 Missy

 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Campbell
 Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 8:33 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Slow boot time with Lion. Opinions wanted.

 Hi everyone.
 I'm just wondering if any of you are experiencing slow boot times when
 running Mac OS 10 Lion on you're Macs?
 I did a time estimation just now and found that from the press of the
 power
 button until VO is heard on the log in screen takes roughly 1 minute and
 43
 seconds.
 I'm running a late 2008 unibody MacBook and even though it is an older
 Mac,
 it was never that slow while running SnowLeopard.
 I've tried everything I can think of. I've Ran a battery of tasks using
 Onyx, I've cleaned out my login items, I've checked free disk space,
 repaired permissions, verified the start up disk, etc, etc.

Re: Hi

got it in one chris.

I was going to write this up earlier but you've saved me time lol.

VGA terminators are not exactly common place in the UK so is more specialist 
than consumer.

that's the thing about graphics cards. people often think that a graphic card 
is output only. nope. it's both. as you rightly say, there are 2 control points 
from the GPU which sense a display. this includes display resolution and in 
certain cases manufacturer and identifier points.

lew

On 7 Feb 2012, at 16:47, Chris Blouch wrote:

 The mac looks at sense pins on the VGA connection which is basically some 
 resisters bridging certain pins together. So this is a passive detection and 
 should work even if the monitor is not plugged in or turned on. Back in the 
 day some sites sold VGA Terminators which was a little dongle with these 
 resisters soldered to the right pins but every vendor I found nowdays no 
 longer stocks them. You could make your own if you're handy with a soldering 
 iron or know somebody who is, but I've never tried that. Extron part 
 #26-106-01 seems to be the thing but I couldn't find anyone online selling 
 it. List price from Extron is $60 just for that little piece. CDW sells 
 something called a VGA terminator for $32 but gives no details so it's hard 
 to say what it really is:
 
 http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/MINICOM-VGA-TERMINATOR-F-CATLINC-VGA/1681126.aspx
 
 so if somebody wants to risk $30 to give that a whirl, it would be nice to 
 know there is a supplier.
 
 CB
 
 On 2/7/12 4:14 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
 You need to have the monitor connected, but not powered on. I am not sure 
 about it being actually plugged into the wall, so give it a try.
 ENjoy your new Mini. I just purchased one and really like it.
 
 On Feb 7, 2012, at 4:12 AM, Don Breda wrote:
 
 Hi there.
 
 I am new to the list and don't have a mac yet but my mac mini is coming 
 tomorrow.
 I have been concerned about this monitor issue and only just joined the 
 list so my apologies in advance for a subject that has probably been beaten 
 to death.
 
 1. Do I need to have a nomitor connected?
 2. If so does it need to have power applied and if so does it need to 
 actually be turned on?
 
 3. without a monitor how does the accessibility change? Does the screen 
 layout in an application change, etc.?
 
 Thanks very much for this because I need to do some testing to make sure a 
 program is accessible on the mac for my employer.
 
 Don
 
 
 
 On 2/5/2012 1:56 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:
 On Sun, Feb 05, 2012 at 04:57:49PM +, chris hallsworth wrote:
 Thanks Lu, ar I see. Well the Mac Mini I will possibly pass on then
 if VO requires a monitor.
 Well, the only issue I see without a monitor connected to the Mini is
 you have to force VO back on with the Commend+F5 key after logging in;
 minur nusince but I can live with it.  For me, it was the money.  I
 bought the Mini for $695 or so where the macbooks are well over $1,000
 so I went the cheapest route possible for now.  I just got into the
 Mac world about 3 weeks ago so maybe in the future with more money, I
 would expand the mac collection to include a powerful macbook pro or
 something.
 
 Just to note though, the lack of a monitor with a mac mini brings up
 only minor inconveniences in case you're trying to save some money.
 
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Re: mac mini and speakers?

If you want, you can also hook it up to a surround-sound home theater 
system and get all the 5.1 DVD goodness from your mini as well. The 
headphone jack is both an analog audio out and a digital optical out.


CB

On 2/7/12 8:56 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

Yes it does but, there terrible little things.  You will probably need to plug 
in speakers or use headphones.

Ricardo Walker
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On Feb 7, 2012, at 7:41 AM, Angie Giltinan wrote:


Does the mac mini have a built in speaker?
I asked the apple reps at my local apple store, but can't seem to get a strait 
answer.
Thanks in advance for all the help!
Angie

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Re: mac mini and speakers?

that's nice.

I'm toying with doing this with my mbp soon. could do with some decent sound.

lew

On 7 Feb 2012, at 16:53, Chris Blouch wrote:

 If you want, you can also hook it up to a surround-sound home theater system 
 and get all the 5.1 DVD goodness from your mini as well. The headphone jack 
 is both an analog audio out and a digital optical out.
 
 CB
 
 On 2/7/12 8:56 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 Yes it does but, there terrible little things.  You will probably need to 
 plug in speakers or use headphones.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Feb 7, 2012, at 7:41 AM, Angie Giltinan wrote:
 
 Does the mac mini have a built in speaker?
 I asked the apple reps at my local apple store, but can't seem to get a 
 strait answer.
 Thanks in advance for all the help!
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Re: Hi

2012-02-07 Thread Marlaina Lieberg

Don!  What a joy to see you here!  If nobody else posts, I'll post what I know, 
but  that is usually precious little, smile.

Looking forward to your participation on the list.



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On Feb 7, 2012, at 1:12 AM, Don Breda wrote:

Hi there.

I am new to the list and don't have a mac yet but my mac mini is coming 
tomorrow.
I have been concerned about this monitor issue and only just joined the list so 
my apologies in advance for a subject that has probably been beaten to death.

1. Do I need to have a nomitor connected?
2. If so does it need to have power applied and if so does it need to actually 
be turned on?

3. without a monitor how does the accessibility change? Does the screen layout 
in an application change, etc.?

Thanks very much for this because I need to do some testing to make sure a 
program is accessible on the mac for my employer.

Don



On 2/5/2012 1:56 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:
 On Sun, Feb 05, 2012 at 04:57:49PM +, chris hallsworth wrote:
 Thanks Lu, ar I see. Well the Mac Mini I will possibly pass on then
 if VO requires a monitor.
 Well, the only issue I see without a monitor connected to the Mini is
 you have to force VO back on with the Commend+F5 key after logging in;
 minur nusince but I can live with it.  For me, it was the money.  I
 bought the Mini for $695 or so where the macbooks are well over $1,000
 so I went the cheapest route possible for now.  I just got into the
 Mac world about 3 weeks ago so maybe in the future with more money, I
 would expand the mac collection to include a powerful macbook pro or
 something.
 
 Just to note though, the lack of a monitor with a mac mini brings up
 only minor inconveniences in case you're trying to save some money.
 

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Re: mac mini and speakers?


You'll need a TOSlink to MiniTOSlink cable like this one for $4

http://sewelldirect.com/Toslink-to-35mm-Mini-Audio-Cable-15-ft.asp

When I first set my mini up for home theatre stuff I went to all the 
usual places like BestBuy, RadioShack and even the Apple store. None of 
them knew what I was talking about. So you pretty much have to order the 
cable from your favorite supplier on the web. The one end is the usual 
square-ish fibre optic connector which fits most home theatre systems. 
The other end is shaped like a mini headphone jack. The main difference 
is it's not an electrical connection. There is a small hole in the tip 
for light to go into and out of. My cable came with little caps to keep 
dirt from getting into the tips which I kept on until the very moment I 
plug them into my mini or stereo.


CB

On 2/7/12 11:54 AM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote:

that's nice.

I'm toying with doing this with my mbp soon. could do with some decent sound.

lew

On 7 Feb 2012, at 16:53, Chris Blouch wrote:


If you want, you can also hook it up to a surround-sound home theater system 
and get all the 5.1 DVD goodness from your mini as well. The headphone jack is 
both an analog audio out and a digital optical out.

CB

On 2/7/12 8:56 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

Yes it does but, there terrible little things.  You will probably need to plug 
in speakers or use headphones.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Feb 7, 2012, at 7:41 AM, Angie Giltinan wrote:


Does the mac mini have a built in speaker?
I asked the apple reps at my local apple store, but can't seem to get a strait 
answer.
Thanks in advance for all the help!
Angie

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New epub Reader

2012-02-07 Thread Robert Carter

Hi,

I just got email from the Take Control Book publisher announcing a brand new 
epub reader for the Mac called Bookel. It is available on the Mac app store for 
$9.95. Just wondering whether or not anybody has tried it for VoiceOver 
compatibility?

Robert Carter

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Re: converting tapes to MP3

Hi Marc, Ricardo, and Others,

The MacBook Air models will handle recording from, for example, the headsets 
with Mic that come with the iPhone.  In that case the setting under System 
Preferences  Sound  Input table for devices will change from a name of 
Internal microphone to External microphone when you plug the headset in.  
The problem is that you need headphones with a three-way 3.5mm jack - plain 
stereo isn't enough, since the jack is being used for both input and output.  
This is why a regular patch cable won't work here for input recording. This 
behavior is true of both the 2011 and 2010 model MacBook Airs. 

If you want to test this out, plug in one of the headsets with Mic from an 
iPhone or iPod Touch -- or other model iPods that can use such headsets for 
recording as well as listening.  You'll find that you can listen to the audio 
through the headset (no surprise).  If you go to System Preferences  Sound and 
examine the Input and Output tabs, the device name will change from Internal 
Speakers to Headphones on the Output device table, and from Internal 
microphone to External microphone on the Input device table.  The device 
type will say Headphone port for output and Microphone port for input.  
Both these functions are built into the same jack.  Now, if you launch 
QuickTime Player, and start a new audio recording with Control-Option-Command-N 
or by navigating to the File menu on the menu bar and selecting this option, 
you can press the Start Recording button, start speaking, then press the 
button again to stop and have it turn into a Play button.  Then you can play 
back to hear what you've recorded with the headset Mic.  The individual files 
will show up in the Movies folder under your user account named Audio 
Recording, Audio Recording 2, etc. in uncompressed AIFF format, as Chris 
Blouch described earlier in this thread.

Other headsets with built-in Mic can also be used the same way.

If you connect a Griffin iMic to the USB port, it will show up as another 
device option under System Preferences  Sound named iMic USB audio system, 
and you can select it on either the Input or Output tab.  Plugging a patch 
cable (3.5mm jack to 3.5mm jack) from your audio source to the iMic input port 
will work here to record.  (My Griffin iMic is 7 years old, and gets 
automatically recognized.  I can also use it to record directly to my iPad if I 
plug it into the USB connector of the Camera Kit accessory for the iPad dock.  
You just use a recording app, such as Voxie, or other app that is set to easily 
stop and start recording by shaking the device.)

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther
 


On Feb 7, 2012, at 5:34 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

 Oh really?  Sorry. I didn't know.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Feb 7, 2012, at 10:27 AM, Marc Sutton wrote:
 
 Hi,
 Actually the 2011 models do not support this. The only choice available for 
 input is the built-in mic.
 Marc
 
 On Feb 7, 2012, at 7:24 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 sure the Macbook air does.  Its just that input and output is handled by 
 the same jack.  Go to systempreferences/sounds and you can select if the 
 headphone jack is used for input or output.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Feb 7, 2012, at 10:06 AM, Marc Sutton wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I have a Macbook Air. I don't believe it has in input jack. What usb sound 
 cards do people recommend  for use in these situations? Thanks.
 Marc
 
 On Feb 7, 2012, at 6:57 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 Not at all.  Just let it record all the way  through.  You can do all the 
 track deviding later when you're done recording.  In fact, I've done the 
 same with vinyl LP records.  after I descratch and denois them, (using RX 
 from Izotope), I go back to Amadeus pro and cut out the parts where the 
 record changed sides and then, still using amadeus pro, I place all my 
 marks exactly where I want them.  Then, I fade out the end of each track 
 and insert silence between each track and then, I go through and take out 
 the markers I no longer want and then, the fun begins.  I enter the 
 marker window and rename all the markers to correspond with each track.  
 Make sure, by the way, that you place a marker at the beginning of the 
 first track when you do this otherwise, that first track will not be 
 marked up for devition.  Now, after you've made sure that each marker is 
 exactly at the beginning of each track and you've named them, Now, you 
 can go in to the sound menu and devide the file according to the markers. 
  This opens up a window where you can choose what format you want each 
 segment saved in.  Also, be aware that the folder that is created when 
 you do this will have the same name as the file from which the other 
 files were taken.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype

Re: Anyone Using Google Chrome with VO?

2012-02-07 Thread Teresa Cochran

Thanks, guys. I'm trying it out as my default browser till I get used to it or 
can't stand it, one. :) I like having more than one browser available on my 
computer. :)

Teresa

We are made of star-stuff--Carl Sagan, Cosmos

On Feb 7, 2012, at 7:54 AM, Elena Brescacin wrote:

 I think it's a good browser, too
 but I stopped using it when I found some third-party extensions that
 were not vo-friendly
 for example the ones to listen to last.fm radio, and I had a problem
 also in the home banking service I am using
 for other sites it's OK
 
 
 
 2012/2/7, Larry Skutchan blindcoolt...@gmail.com:
 Chrome works great with VO and is a very very nice browser. Once in a great
 while, it is necessary to use Safari for some accessibility reason, but most
 of the time, Chrome rocks.
 
 On Feb 7, 2012, at 1:39 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 
 Hi, all,
 
 Upon a cursory look at vO with Google chrome, I notice no major
 accessibility booboos. Does anyone else use VO successfully with this app?
 I'm finding that I don't really care to use a separate voicing app for one
 particular web browser, because I have to turn off VO, and turn it back on
 when switching windows, and also, the two text-to-speech chrome
 extensions, Chromevox and MetalMouth, do not work in parts of the browser
 other than the page content.
 
 Thanks,
 Teresa
 
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Re: converting m4a to wav or mp3

Hi Angie and Others,

You can download a free trial version of Amadeus Pro from the developer's web 
site:
http://www.hairersoft.com/pro.html#4
There's both a Pro and Lite version, and I think the difference in price is $60 
for Pro and $40 for Lite.  Batch conversion (that Paul described) is only 
supported in the Pro version, which also features multi-track editing and 
support of Audio plug-ins -- other features not in the Lite version.

The editing interface is likely to be different from what your are used to.  
Check the guides at Keith's icanworkthisthing site for a quick, VoiceOver 
friendly summary of command shortcuts:
• Audio and Recording With Mac and Voiceover:
http://icanworkthisthing.com/docs/mac_with_voiceover/audio/

You can purchase Amadeus Pro from either the App Store or separately from the 
developer's site.  The App Store is the easy way to buy it, but check the 
developer's web site for trial versions, and additional downloadable plug-ins.  
He also maintains a forum for user questions and discussions.  

Colin has already described how to convert using iTunes.  Basically, you can 
choose your default importing format for music.  If you don't do anything, it 
will be set to AAC format.  This is done from the iTunes preferences file, 
brought up with Command-comma.  On the general tab, in addition to a pop-up 
menu button that lets you choose the default action when a CD is inserted, 
there will be an Import Settings button.  Press this to bring up the dialog 
window for choosing the format and quality of your default encoding method.   
You'll find options for AAC and MP3 as compressed options, along with Apple 
Lossless, and uncompressed WAV and AIFF options -- the default Windows and Mac 
uncompressed formats.  After that, your selected format will be used as the 
default for when you rip CDs.  If you add other audio files to iTunes, you'll 
have the option to convert the file to your default audio importing format when 
you check the menu options under the Advanced menu on your iTunes menu bar. 
And you can change this via your preferences menu at any later time.  (Chris 
Blouch actually said all this in his succinct reply; I'm just fleshing out the 
details.)

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther
On Feb 7, 2012, at 4:27 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:

 Angie,
 
 Yes amadeus pro is in the mac app store.
 Paul.
 On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:36 PM, Angie Giltinan wrote:
 
 Wow, that was really helpfull, I was considering purchasing amadeus pro 
 anyway, this may be the good enough reason to do so.
 Can I find it on the app store?
 Thanks!
 
 On Feb 6, 2012, at 2:48 PM, Paul Erkens wr   ote:
 
 Hi Angie,
 I use amadeus pro all the time. I don't know if you ever used it, but if 
 you already bought it it's a breeze. Just hit command shift n after you 
 start amadeus pro, and a new batch converter window will appear. You have a 
 formats tab, where you set what you want your new files to become, in yor 
 case mp3. You also set the mp3 encoding settings in this tab. In the 
 actions tab, you can pick actions to be performed on the files, like 
 normalization if you want, before being converted. In the other 2 tabs, you 
 can instruct amadeus what to do with meta info such as the file tag and its 
 art work, or you can leave that out altogether if you wish, on your to be 
 created mp3 files. Then when you point to a folder to convert, it can also 
 recursively search that folder for all the files it contains, and then do 
 them all in one simple go. You can also tell amadeus to convert a folder, 
 and put all new files in the same location as their originals, and then 
 deleting the originals. If you know what you are doing this can be a 
 breeze. Once you are familiar with the little interface in the batch 
 converter in amadeus pro, you will love it.
 
 If you don't have amadeus then I hope others will chime in on this.
 Hth,
 Paul.
 On Feb 6, 2012, at 7:58 PM, Angie Giltinan wrote:
 
 I opened the file in itunes, started it playing, then went to the advanced 
 menu, but could not find an option to convert to mp3 
 Any more help would be greatly appreciated!
 
 On Feb 6, 2012, at 1:21 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
 
 Can't you do this in iTunes? Load the tracks up, select them in iTunes 
 and then choose Convert to MP3 in the Advanced menu.
 
 CB
 
 On 2/6/12 12:38 PM, Angie Giltinan wrote:
 Hi all,
 do any of you know a program to convert m4A audio files to wav or mp3?
 Any info about his would be most helpfull!
 Thanks in advance!
 
 

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Re: New epub Reader

2012-02-07 Thread Robert Carter

Hi All,

I am replying to my own message. The Bookle app seems perfectly accessible with 
VoiceOver. It now gives us a way to read unprotected epub content on the Mac.

Robert Carter


On Feb 7, 2012, at 11:08 AM, Robert Carter wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I just got email from the Take Control Book publisher announcing a brand new 
 epub reader for the Mac called Bookel. It is available on the Mac app store 
 for $9.95. Just wondering whether or not anybody has tried it for VoiceOver 
 compatibility?
 
 Robert Carter

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Re: mac mini and speakers?

2012-02-07 Thread chris hallsworth

Going by some podcasts over at www.blindcooltech.com, the Mac Mini does 
have two tiny internal speakers, but the podcaster in question plugged 
in some external ones.



Christopher H

On 07/02/2012 12:41, Angie Giltinan wrote:

Does the mac mini have a built in speaker?
I asked the apple reps at my local apple store, but can't seem to get a strait 
answer.
Thanks in advance for all the help!
Angie



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Re: New epub Reader

Hi Robert,

Bookle works OK for straight reading.  There's no ability to set bookmarks, but 
last location will be remembered.  Zack commented in the Bookle support forums 
that there were still some issues with VoiceOver cursor focus.  I haven't tried 
testing this in detail for character by character reading such as you might 
want to do if you are reading about computer command line instructions.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Feb 7, 2012, at 7:08 AM, Robert Carter wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I just got email from the Take Control Book publisher announcing a brand new 
 epub reader for the Mac called Bookel. It is available on the Mac app store 
 for $9.95. Just wondering whether or not anybody has tried it for VoiceOver 
 compatibility?
 
 Robert Carter
 

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RE: Slow boot time with Lion. Opinions wanted.

2012-02-07 Thread Missy Hoppe

Hi! Thanks for this intriguing suggestion. Unfortunately, I can't think of 
anything else I'd want to run at startup apart
from whatever already has to: dropbox and audio hijack scheduler. I guess I can 
look for something, though if it really might
help. On the other side of the coin, I wonder if there's something running at 
startup that doesn't have to. I'm still too new
to mac to do much playing, but it seems to me that an awful lot of things run, 
but I don't have the sense to know which of
them are important, and which it might be safe to delete. I went through my 
startup options and told all of them to be
hidden, thinking that might help, but no, VO still is in the speech synthesis 
server window, if it starts automatically at
all. Since 10.7.3, I've had to command-tab out of seemingly nothing before it 
will even start. I have light and color
perception, and am not noticing anything popping up on the screen, which makes 
this problem even more mysterious.
Missy


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Steve Holmes
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 11:52 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Slow boot time with Lion. Opinions wanted.

Due to my newness to the mac, I can't compare with prior versions of OS X but 
one observation I do concur with is the lack of
focus to the desktop when VO is started.  I found a work-around for that one 
though and I never suffer that one anymore.  I
added at least one item to my list of items to launch at login.  I do this in 
the user settings under system preferences.  In
my case, I added the terminal app in there because I like to use terminal from 
time to time so I figured it a good choice.
Now whenever I login, I just press command+f5 to start VO (this is due to me 
not having a monitor connected) VO starts up
every time and focuses me right to the desktop.  Oh, I have the checkbox for 
terminal set to hide otherwise I think terminal
would grab the focus.  I thought the boot time to be a bit lengthy byt a lot of 
windows systems are slower than that.  I've
only seen the busy
stuff once in a while; wasn't sure what the cause of that was.  I see that a 
lot with Mail and IMAP implementations and I
figured that was caused by fetching a new message every time you move up and 
down the message list.

On 2/7/12, Joel Zimba zimbameis...@gmail.com wrote:
 the recent update seems to have made both boot time and general
 responsiveness better for me.

 My computer was very frustrating to use  since upgrading to Lion and
 now it's fine.  Much less of the busy message overall.

 Joel


 On 2/6/2012 9:42 PM, Daniel Miller wrote:
 Hi,

 I've reported that issue several times to apple. They're aware of it,
 and are working on a fix, at last response from the support people.
 Things like this take time, however, so don't expect it to be fixed
 tomorrow.
 Now keep in mind, I also experienced and still am experiencing what
 you guys are talking about, but it's honestly no reason to shoot down
 the OS, for something that they're obviously trying to fix, even if
 it takes them a bit longer than we'd like to pinpoint what's causing
 the issue.
 Another thing you have to keep in mind, Lions minimum system
 requirements state 2GB of ram and a 2.0GHZ dual core processor is the
 bear least you can get away with and run Lion, but with some
 slowness. Ram can have a factor in boot times, as well as hard drive
 speed (5400 as opposed to 7200 RPM), so be aware of that fact as
 well.
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Missy Hoppe
 Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 8:10 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Slow boot time with Lion. Opinions wanted.

 Hello. I, too, experience incredibly slow boot times with lion. I'm
 using a
 2011 Macbook Pro 724LLA or whatever that model number is, and I'm
 guessing your estimate of 1 minute 43 seconds is about the same for my boot 
 time.
 More annoying for me than the slow boot time, though, is that under
 lion, VO startup is hit and miss at best. When lion first came out,
 it always got stuck in come window called com.doc.apple.extra. That
 got fixed, only to be replaced by the fact that if VO starts talking
 by itself at all, I'm stuck in a window called speech synthesis
 server. In all the time I've run lion, it's never landed me on the
 desktop the way snowy kitty always does, and more often than not, I
 have to press command-tab before VO says anything at all.
 So, to make a long story short, it isn't just you, and like you, I've
 tried everything I can think of to solve the problem, but nothing
 seems to make a difference. It seems that my ancient 80 GB external
 drive which I still use to boot into Snow Leopard when necessary runs
 faster than Lion, and that's just wrong. So, like you, I'm wondering
 if there's any point in reporting this to apple, or

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Re: New epub Reader

Hi,

Adobe digital editions also added this functionality to the Mac. btw.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Feb 7, 2012, at 12:34 PM, Robert Carter wrote:

 Hi All,
 
 I am replying to my own message. The Bookle app seems perfectly accessible 
 with VoiceOver. It now gives us a way to read unprotected epub content on the 
 Mac.
 
 Robert Carter
 
 
 On Feb 7, 2012, at 11:08 AM, Robert Carter wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I just got email from the Take Control Book publisher announcing a brand new 
 epub reader for the Mac called Bookel. It is available on the Mac app store 
 for $9.95. Just wondering whether or not anybody has tried it for VoiceOver 
 compatibility?
 
 Robert Carter
 
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Re: Slow boot time with Lion. Opinions wanted.

I never got stuck in any speech synthesis window; have no idea what
that even is.  Oh, you have a couple things in the startup list? Humm,
I would think that should work then.  I would like to add dropbox but
didn't find anything in the app store for it.  Do I have to get that
directly from Dropbox? Actually, I wonder if whatever it is that
enables my desktop to properly focus has to be some actual app that
has a focus of its own.  I think before I added terminal to mine, I
had iTunes Helper and it was also hidden but still had the focus
issues.  It was after I added terminal to the list that my focus issue
cleared up.

You might ask, how did I discover that? Well, while dealing with Apple
tech support concerning why VO wouldn't startup on my mac mini,
someone suggested to add VoiceOver Utility to that startup list. Well,
that improved the focus situation but not the auto starting of VO.
Since then, I removed the VO utility as I can invoke that at any time
I need it with VO+F8 and I want quick easy access to the terminal.  So
as far as I got, things are stable for me and all I do right now is if
I login anew, I press command+f5 and VO starts talking for me without
further interaction on my part.  Sorry I can't help you with your
additional problems.

On 2/7/12, Missy Hoppe melis...@fuse.net wrote:
 Hi! Thanks for this intriguing suggestion. Unfortunately, I can't think of
 anything else I'd want to run at startup apart
 from whatever already has to: dropbox and audio hijack scheduler. I guess I
 can look for something, though if it really might
 help. On the other side of the coin, I wonder if there's something running
 at startup that doesn't have to. I'm still too new
 to mac to do much playing, but it seems to me that an awful lot of things
 run, but I don't have the sense to know which of
 them are important, and which it might be safe to delete. I went through my
 startup options and told all of them to be
 hidden, thinking that might help, but no, VO still is in the speech
 synthesis server window, if it starts automatically at
 all. Since 10.7.3, I've had to command-tab out of seemingly nothing before
 it will even start. I have light and color
 perception, and am not noticing anything popping up on the screen, which
 makes this problem even more mysterious.
 Missy


 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Holmes
 Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 11:52 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Slow boot time with Lion. Opinions wanted.

 Due to my newness to the mac, I can't compare with prior versions of OS X
 but one observation I do concur with is the lack of
 focus to the desktop when VO is started.  I found a work-around for that one
 though and I never suffer that one anymore.  I
 added at least one item to my list of items to launch at login.  I do this
 in the user settings under system preferences.  In
 my case, I added the terminal app in there because I like to use terminal
 from time to time so I figured it a good choice.
 Now whenever I login, I just press command+f5 to start VO (this is due to me
 not having a monitor connected) VO starts up
 every time and focuses me right to the desktop.  Oh, I have the checkbox for
 terminal set to hide otherwise I think terminal
 would grab the focus.  I thought the boot time to be a bit lengthy byt a lot
 of windows systems are slower than that.  I've
 only seen the busy
 stuff once in a while; wasn't sure what the cause of that was.  I see that a
 lot with Mail and IMAP implementations and I
 figured that was caused by fetching a new message every time you move up and
 down the message list.

 On 2/7/12, Joel Zimba zimbameis...@gmail.com wrote:
 the recent update seems to have made both boot time and general
 responsiveness better for me.

 My computer was very frustrating to use  since upgrading to Lion and
 now it's fine.  Much less of the busy message overall.

 Joel


 On 2/6/2012 9:42 PM, Daniel Miller wrote:
 Hi,

 I've reported that issue several times to apple. They're aware of it,
 and are working on a fix, at last response from the support people.
 Things like this take time, however, so don't expect it to be fixed
 tomorrow.
 Now keep in mind, I also experienced and still am experiencing what
 you guys are talking about, but it's honestly no reason to shoot down
 the OS, for something that they're obviously trying to fix, even if
 it takes them a bit longer than we'd like to pinpoint what's causing
 the issue.
 Another thing you have to keep in mind, Lions minimum system
 requirements state 2GB of ram and a 2.0GHZ dual core processor is the
 bear least you can get away with and run Lion, but with some
 slowness. Ram can have a factor in boot times, as well as hard drive
 speed (5400 as opposed to 7200 RPM), so be aware of that fact as
 well.
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

Re: Bugs in Mail

2012-02-07 Thread Becky Knaub

I am using Embarqmail in the mail app. I have it set to delete messages from 
the server after downloading. I never really used to have this issue until I 
updated just the other day. Once in a blue moon I would have the same thing on 
the iPhone. Thanks

Becky and C
On Feb 7, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Steve Holmes wrote:

 If you are doing this in gmail, do look at your All mail folder; if
 your deleted messages are remaining behind in there, you may have
 thousands of them.  that happened to me before I realized that
 deleting messages in traditional IMAP does not work the same way in
 gmail.  They have to be moved to Trash to truely be rid of them.
 
 On 2/6/12, Chris Westbrook westbch...@gmail.com wrote:
 That's weird, I'm using imap with gmail and when I delete a message thread,
 not sure where it goes lol but it is gone from my mailbox at least.
 On Feb 6, 2012, at 12:13 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:
 
 I find with gmail and IMAP, the best way to Delete messages for good
 is to Move them to Trash while in a mail client.  Yes, there is a
 delete function on the web site which actually deletes messages (if
 trueth be known, it moves them to trash too).  Anyway, that's what I
 do in mutt, thunderbird, mail app on both mac and iPod.
 
 On 2/6/12, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote:
 This may not be a bug in Mail, but the imap implementation such as found
 with Gmail.
 
 On Feb 6, 2012, at 11:37 AM, Becky Knaub wrote:
 
 Hi Guys,
 Has anyone noticed that when you delete messages they don't leave the
 mail
 box unless you close and reopen the app? So if anyone's had this problem
 besides me after I updated? If so does anyone know how to get rid of it?
 
 Thanks
 
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Re: Anyone Using Google Chrome with VO?

2012-02-07 Thread Bejarano, Rafael P.

How does Google Chrome do with Facebook?  I find that Safari does not work very 
well with that website.

Rafael Bejarano
On Feb 7, 2012, at 9:48 AM, Larry Skutchan wrote:

 Chrome works great with VO and is a very very nice browser. Once in a great 
 while, it is necessary to use Safari for some accessibility reason, but most 
 of the time, Chrome rocks.
 
 On Feb 7, 2012, at 1:39 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 
 Hi, all,
 
 Upon a cursory look at vO with Google chrome, I notice no major 
 accessibility booboos. Does anyone else use VO successfully with this app? 
 I'm finding that I don't really care to use a separate voicing app for one 
 particular web browser, because I have to turn off VO, and turn it back on 
 when switching windows, and also, the two text-to-speech chrome extensions, 
 Chromevox and MetalMouth, do not work in parts of the browser other than the 
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Re: converting m4a to wav or mp3

Hi,

Can Amadeus light drop markers in the playing track, like gold wave for example 
or do you need to input the exact time for each marker?

Is this something only possible in pro if at all?
Also, can I open a movie file let's say .avi or .mp4 and extract the audio file 
from it with Amadeus?

Thanks,

Ioana

Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online 
stores.

On Feb 7, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Esther wrote:

 Hi Angie and Others,
 
 You can download a free trial version of Amadeus Pro from the developer's web 
 site:
 http://www.hairersoft.com/pro.html#4
 There's both a Pro and lite  version, and I think the difference in price is 
 $60 for Pro and $40 for lite.  Batch conversion (that Paul described) is only 
 supported in the Pro version, which also features multi-track editing and 
 support of Audio plug-ins -- other features not in the lite version.
 
 The editing interface is likely to be different from what your are used to.  
 Check the guides at Keith's icanworkthisthing site for a quick, VoiceOver 
 friendly summary of command shortcuts:
 • Audio and Recording With Mac and Voiceover:
 http://icanworkthisthing.com/docs/mac_with_voiceover/audio/
 
 You can purchase Amadeus Pro from either the App Store or separately from the 
 developer's site.  The App Store is the easy way to buy it, but check the 
 developer's web site for trial versions, and additional downloadable 
 plug-ins.  He also maintains a forum for user questions and discussions.  
 
 Colin has already described how to convert using iTunes.  Basically, you can 
 choose your default importing format for music.  If you don't do anything, it 
 will be set to AAC format.  This is done from the iTunes preferences file, 
 brought up with Command-comma.  On the general tab, in addition to a pop-up 
 menu button that lets you choose the default action when a CD is inserted, 
 there will be an Import Settings button.  Press this to bring up the dialog 
 window for choosing the format and quality of your default encoding method.   
 You'll find options for AAC and MP3 as compressed options, along with Apple 
 Lossless, and uncompressed WAV and AIFF options -- the default Windows and 
 Mac uncompressed formats.  After that, your selected format will be used as 
 the default for when you rip CDs.  If you add other audio files to iTunes, 
 you'll have the option to convert the file to your default audio importing 
 format when you check the menu options under the Advanced menu on your 
 iTunes menu bar. And you can change this via your preferences menu at any 
 later time.  (Chris Blouch actually said all this in his succinct reply; I'm 
 just fleshing out the details.)
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
 Esther
 On Feb 7, 2012, at 4:27 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:
 
 Angie,
 
 Yes amadeus pro is in the mac app store.
 Paul.
 On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:36 PM, Angie Giltinan wrote:
 
 Wow, that was really helpfull, I was considering purchasing amadeus pro 
 anyway, this may be the good enough reason to do so.
 Can I find it on the app store?
 Thanks!
 
 On Feb 6, 2012, at 2:48 PM, Paul Erkens wr  ote:
 
 Hi Angie,
 I use amadeus pro all the time. I don't know if you ever used it, but if 
 you already bought it it's a breeze. Just hit command shift n after you 
 start amadeus pro, and a new batch converter window will appear. You have 
 a formats tab, where you set what you want your new files to become, in 
 yor case mp3. You also set the mp3 encoding settings in this tab. In the 
 actions tab, you can pick actions to be performed on the files, like 
 normalization if you want, before being converted. In the other 2 tabs, 
 you can instruct amadeus what to do with meta info such as the file tag 
 and its art work, or you can leave that out altogether if you wish, on 
 your to be created mp3 files. Then when you point to a folder to convert, 
 it can also recursively search that folder for all the files it contains, 
 and then do them all in one simple go. You can also tell amadeus to 
 convert a folder, and put all new files in the same location as their 
 originals, and then deleting the originals. If you know what you are doing 
 this can be a breeze. Once you are familiar with the little interface in 
 the batch converter in amadeus pro, you will love it.
 
 If you don't have amadeus then I hope others will chime in on this.
 Hth,
 Paul.
 On Feb 6, 2012, at 7:58 PM, Angie Giltinan wrote:
 
 I opened the file in itunes, started it playing, then went to the 
 advanced menu, but could not find an option to convert to mp3 
 Any more help would be greatly appreciated!
 
 On Feb 6, 2012, at 1:21 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
 
 Can't you do this in iTunes? Load the tracks up, select them in iTunes 
 and then choose Convert to MP3 in the Advanced menu.
 
 CB
 
 On 2/6/12 12:38 PM, Angie Giltinan wrote:
 Hi all,
 do any of you know a program to convert m4A audio files to wav or mp3?
 Any info about his would be most helpfull!
 Thanks in advance!
 
 
 
 --

please ignore my questions on amadeus was Re: converting m4a to wav or mp3

Sorry for asking about the program before doing more research. Just downloaded 
the trial and got may answers.
Cool program!
Best,

Ioana

Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online 
stores.

On Feb 7, 2012, at 2:38 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Can Amadeus light drop markers in the playing track, like gold wave for 
 example or do you need to input the exact time for each marker?
 
 Is this something only possible in pro if at all?
 Also, can I open a movie file let's say .avi or .mp4 and extract the audio 
 file from it with Amadeus?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Ioana
 
 Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online 
 stores.
 
 On Feb 7, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Esther wrote:
 
 Hi Angie and Others,
 
 You can download a free trial version of Amadeus Pro from the developer's 
 web site:
 http://www.hairersoft.com/pro.html#4
 There's both a Pro and lite  version, and I think the difference in price is 
 $60 for Pro and $40 for lite.  Batch conversion (that Paul described) is 
 only supported in the Pro version, which also features multi-track editing 
 and support of Audio plug-ins -- other features not in the lite version.
 
 The editing interface is likely to be different from what your are used to.  
 Check the guides at Keith's icanworkthisthing site for a quick, VoiceOver 
 friendly summary of command shortcuts:
 • Audio and Recording With Mac and Voiceover:
 http://icanworkthisthing.com/docs/mac_with_voiceover/audio/
 
 You can purchase Amadeus Pro from either the App Store or separately from 
 the developer's site.  The App Store is the easy way to buy it, but check 
 the developer's web site for trial versions, and additional downloadable 
 plug-ins.  He also maintains a forum for user questions and discussions.  
 
 Colin has already described how to convert using iTunes.  Basically, you can 
 choose your default importing format for music.  If you don't do anything, 
 it will be set to AAC format.  This is done from the iTunes preferences 
 file, brought up with Command-comma.  On the general tab, in addition to a 
 pop-up menu button that lets you choose the default action when a CD is 
 inserted, there will be an Import Settings button.  Press this to bring up 
 the dialog window for choosing the format and quality of your default 
 encoding method.   You'll find options for AAC and MP3 as compressed 
 options, along with Apple Lossless, and uncompressed WAV and AIFF options -- 
 the default Windows and Mac uncompressed formats.  After that, your selected 
 format will be used as the default for when you rip CDs.  If you add other 
 audio files to iTunes, you'll have the option to convert the file to your 
 default audio importing format when you check the menu options under the 
 Advanced menu on your iTunes menu bar. And you can change this via your 
 preferences menu at any later time.  (Chris Blouch actually said all this in 
 his succinct reply; I'm just fleshing out the details.)
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
 Esther
 On Feb 7, 2012, at 4:27 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:
 
 Angie,
 
 Yes amadeus pro is in the mac app store.
 Paul.
 On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:36 PM, Angie Giltinan wrote:
 
 Wow, that was really helpfull, I was considering purchasing amadeus pro 
 anyway, this may be the good enough reason to do so.
 Can I find it on the app store?
 Thanks!
 
 On Feb 6, 2012, at 2:48 PM, Paul Erkens wr ote:
 
 Hi Angie,
 I use amadeus pro all the time. I don't know if you ever used it, but if 
 you already bought it it's a breeze. Just hit command shift n after you 
 start amadeus pro, and a new batch converter window will appear. You have 
 a formats tab, where you set what you want your new files to become, in 
 yor case mp3. You also set the mp3 encoding settings in this tab. In the 
 actions tab, you can pick actions to be performed on the files, like 
 normalization if you want, before being converted. In the other 2 tabs, 
 you can instruct amadeus what to do with meta info such as the file tag 
 and its art work, or you can leave that out altogether if you wish, on 
 your to be created mp3 files. Then when you point to a folder to convert, 
 it can also recursively search that folder for all the files it contains, 
 and then do them all in one simple go. You can also tell amadeus to 
 convert a folder, and put all new files in the same location as their 
 originals, and then deleting the originals. If you know what you are 
 doing this can be a breeze. Once you are familiar with the little 
 interface in the batch converter in amadeus pro, you will love it.
 
 If you don't have amadeus then I hope others will chime in on this.
 Hth,
 Paul.
 On Feb 6, 2012, at 7:58 PM, Angie Giltinan wrote:
 
 I opened the file in itunes, started it playing, then went to the 
 advanced menu, but could not find an option to convert to mp3 
 Any more help would be greatly appreciated!
 
 On Feb 6, 2012, at 1:21 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
 
 Can't you do this in iTunes? Load the

Re: converting m4a to wav or mp3

Hi Ioana,

I think that Amadeus Lite has all the basic editing functions of Amadeus Pro 
(but not the multi-track support for recording/editing).  One of the features 
that I like is the ability to drop markers automatically in the middle of 
silence gaps of a middle of a specified time interval to split up recordings. 
 You can adjust these thresholds for this placement, and also edit to remove or 
interactively shift the marker points.  You can also manually set up markers, 
either by dropping them in the playing track, or by inputting a specific time 
for a marker.  

I think that Amadeus Pro can convert MP4 to MP3, for example.  I've read about 
people using a combination of Handbrake and Amadeus Pro to extract audio from 
movie tracks, usually starting from DVDs and using Handbrake to convert the 
Video_TS folder to MP4, then using Amadeus Pro to convert MP4 to MP3.  I 
haven't done this myself.  I know the Lite version supports things like editing 
audio tracks of QuickTime movies, but I'm not sure about other movie formats.  
I'd guess you could export the audio track to different formats. You could try 
separately downloading a trial version of Amadeus Lite:
http://www.hairersoft.com/lite.html#4  

There are people on this list who routinely do a lot of audio processing and 
editing who can probably give you a better answer. 

HTH. Cheers,

Esther 

On Feb 7, 2012, at 9:38 AM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Can Amadeus light drop markers in the playing track, like gold wave for 
 example or do you need to input the exact time for each marker?
 
 Is this something only possible in pro if at all?
 Also, can I open a movie file let's say .avi or .mp4 and extract the audio 
 file from it with Amadeus?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Ioana
 
 Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online 
 stores.
 
 On Feb 7, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Esther wrote:
 
 Hi Angie and Others,
 
 You can download a free trial version of Amadeus Pro from the developer's 
 web site:
 http://www.hairersoft.com/pro.html#4
 There's both a Pro and lite  version, and I think the difference in price is 
 $60 for Pro and $40 for lite.  Batch conversion (that Paul described) is 
 only supported in the Pro version, which also features multi-track editing 
 and support of Audio plug-ins -- other features not in the lite version.
 
 The editing interface is likely to be different from what your are used to.  
 Check the guides at Keith's icanworkthisthing site for a quick, VoiceOver 
 friendly summary of command shortcuts:
 • Audio and Recording With Mac and Voiceover:
 http://icanworkthisthing.com/docs/mac_with_voiceover/audio/
 
 You can purchase Amadeus Pro from either the App Store or separately from 
 the developer's site.  The App Store is the easy way to buy it, but check 
 the developer's web site for trial versions, and additional downloadable 
 plug-ins.  He also maintains a forum for user questions and discussions.  
 
 Colin has already described how to convert using iTunes.  Basically, you can 
 choose your default importing format for music.  If you don't do anything, 
 it will be set to AAC format.  This is done from the iTunes preferences 
 file, brought up with Command-comma.  On the general tab, in addition to a 
 pop-up menu button that lets you choose the default action when a CD is 
 inserted, there will be an Import Settings button.  Press this to bring up 
 the dialog window for choosing the format and quality of your default 
 encoding method.   You'll find options for AAC and MP3 as compressed 
 options, along with Apple Lossless, and uncompressed WAV and AIFF options -- 
 the default Windows and Mac uncompressed formats.  After that, your selected 
 format will be used as the default for when you rip CDs.  If you add other 
 audio files to iTunes, you'll have the option to convert the file to your 
 default audio importing format when you check the menu options under the 
 Advanced menu on your iTunes menu bar. And you can change this via your 
 preferences menu at any later time.  (Chris Blouch actually said all this in 
 his succinct reply; I'm just fleshing out the details.)
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
 Esther
 On Feb 7, 2012, at 4:27 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:
 
 Angie,
 
 Yes amadeus pro is in the mac app store.
 Paul.
 On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:36 PM, Angie Giltinan wrote:
 
 Wow, that was really helpfull, I was considering purchasing amadeus pro 
 anyway, this may be the good enough reason to do so.
 Can I find it on the app store?
 Thanks!
 
 On Feb 6, 2012, at 2:48 PM, Paul Erkens wr ote:
 
 Hi Angie,
 I use amadeus pro all the time. I don't know if you ever used it, but if 
 you already bought it it's a breeze. Just hit command shift n after you 
 start amadeus pro, and a new batch converter window will appear. You have 
 a formats tab, where you set what you want your new files to become, in 
 yor case mp3. You also set the mp3 encoding settings in this tab. In the 
 actions tab, you can pick actions to be

Re: converting tapes to MP3

Hi,

If I understand correctly, Amadeus pro can record sound. Is there a reason to 
use audio highjack pro for recording the tapes?

Thanks,

Ioana

Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online 
stores.

On Feb 7, 2012, at 10:18 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

 Canpt go wrong with the Griphin Imic.  A nice little unit that has an input 
 jack which is swichable between Mic and linein and an earphone jack also.  
 The USB corde, (built in) is a little on the short side.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype name:
 barefootedray
 
 Facebook:
 facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
 
 
 
 On Feb 7, 2012, at 9:06 AM, Marc Sutton wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I have a Macbook Air. I don't believe it has in input jack. What usb sound 
 cards do people recommend  for use in these situations? Thanks.
 Marc
 
 On Feb 7, 2012, at 6:57 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 Not at all.  Just let it record all the way  through.  You can do all the 
 track deviding later when you're done recording.  In fact, I've done the 
 same with vinyl LP records.  after I descratch and denois them, (using RX 
 from Izotope), I go back to Amadeus pro and cut out the parts where the 
 record changed sides and then, still using amadeus pro, I place all my 
 marks exactly where I want them.  Then, I fade out the end of each track 
 and insert silence between each track and then, I go through and take out 
 the markers I no longer want and then, the fun begins.  I enter the marker 
 window and rename all the markers to correspond with each track.  Make 
 sure, by the way, that you place a marker at the beginning of the first 
 track when you do this otherwise, that first track will not be marked up 
 for devition.  Now, after you've made sure that each marker is exactly at 
 the beginning of each track and you've named them, Now, you can go in to 
 the sound menu and devide the file according to the markers.  This opens up 
 a window where you can choose what format you want each segment saved in.  
 Also, be aware that the folder that is created when you do this will have 
 the same name as the file from which the other files were taken.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype name:
 barefootedray
 
 Facebook:
 facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
 
 
 
 On Feb 7, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
 
 Do you have to stop the tape every 10 minutes to divide in to tracks?
 On Feb 5, 2012, at 6:19 PM, Eric Caron wrote:
 
 Hello Sarai ,
 
 There are many different ways to do this on the mac.  I'll outline for 
 you how I do it.  First I have a regular tape deck on a stereo so I 
 purchased the Griffin iMike.  this usb device lets you plug in the output 
 from your stereo or from a mike directly into your computer.  So once you 
 plug a cable with the input into the Mike you will select the setting on 
 the Mike for powered or unpowered.  for a stereo it is unpowered.  I use 
 a cable with two RCA plugs attached to the tape output and on the other 
 end a standard 35 millimeter jack like the one on headphones for the 
 iPhone.
 
 Next I use Amadeus pro.  With that program you can input the tape then 
 edit tracks and much more.  I then save in the format of my choice  and 
 my tapes are now digital. 
 
 I do the same thing for vinyl records.
 
 There is a slightly outdated podcast on blindcooltech.com I think I 
 called it Amadeus Pro Vinyl to CD.  It covers a lot of the Amadeus Pro 
 basics. 
 
 If you have a USB tape player then you will not need the Griffin iMike. 
 
 Hope this helps.
 
 eRic Caron 
 
 
 
 On Feb 5, 2012, at 2:50 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
 
 Hi guys:
 Is it possible for a blind person to convert tapes to MP3 files using a 
 Mac with Voiceover? If so, what is needed to do this, and what is the 
 process? 
 
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Re: please ignore my questions on amadeus was Re: converting m4a to wav or mp3

Hi,

I replied before I read this post, but maybe the comments about automatic 
marker generation will also be of interest.  You might want to separately try 
the download for the Lite version:
http://www.hairersoft.com/lite.html#4

Another thing that I like to use this app for is de-noising tracks.  You can 
select a section of your recorded track that doesn't have active recording 
signal and have Amadeus Pro (or Lite) use that to de-noise the rest of your 
recording.  This isn't sophisticated, and more expensive sound-cleaning 
applications can do a better job, but this works fairly well as a simple 
solution for a wide range of cases.

You've probably also found that you can undo a lot of your editing actions 
and marker placements if you don't like the results.


HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Feb 7, 2012, at 10:06 AM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:

 Sorry for asking about the program before doing more research. Just 
 downloaded the trial and got may answers.
 Cool program!
 Best,
 
 Ioana
 
 Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online 
 stores.
 
 On Feb 7, 2012, at 2:38 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Can Amadeus light drop markers in the playing track, like gold wave for 
 example or do you need to input the exact time for each marker?
 
 Is this something only possible in pro if at all?
 Also, can I open a movie file let's say .avi or .mp4 and extract the audio 
 file from it with Amadeus?
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: Anyone Using Google Chrome with VO?

2012-02-07 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen

Hi.

It works with java too, and that can be a problem in safari, I have not 
succeeded in finding a way to get java to work well in safari everytime i try, 
that works in google chrome, but there are a big problem with frames, I do not 
know if they do not work in google chrome or it is VoiceOver, that has a 
problem. I will try to find the beta of google chrome, and upgrade to that.

Best regards Annie.
Den Feb 7, 2012 kl. 4:48 PM skrev Larry Skutchan:

 Chrome works great with VO and is a very very nice browser. Once in a great 
 while, it is necessary to use Safari for some accessibility reason, but most 
 of the time, Chrome rocks.
 
 On Feb 7, 2012, at 1:39 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 
 Hi, all,
 
 Upon a cursory look at vO with Google chrome, I notice no major 
 accessibility booboos. Does anyone else use VO successfully with this app? 
 I'm finding that I don't really care to use a separate voicing app for one 
 particular web browser, because I have to turn off VO, and turn it back on 
 when switching windows, and also, the two text-to-speech chrome extensions, 
 Chromevox and MetalMouth, do not work in parts of the browser other than the 
 page content.
 
 Thanks,
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Re: converting tapes to MP3

Hi,

There's a TidBITS article about digitizing LPs where the author uses Audio 
Highjack Pro to do the recording and Amadeus Pro to do the editing, as Tim 
Kilburn outlined.   I think that one of the reasons people like to use Audio 
Hijack Pro in this mode is the low latency when you do the sound capture, and 
the ease of doing something else with your system while the recording is going 
on.  I've generally just recorded directly to Amadeus Pro.  Here's the link to 
the TidBITS article:
• Media Creation - Transferring Vinyl LPs to Digital: One Approach by Matt 
Neuberg 10 Mar 2010
http://tidbits.com/article/11072 

Audio Hijack Pro can be used for other functions, as well, including recording 
separate Skype sessions.  There's actually a new version of Audio Hijack Pro 
that just came out at the beginning of this week, that will now support 
capturing audio from sandboxed Mac App Store applications.  I was going to take 
a look at it.  John Gruber's Daring Fireball feed has a discount coupon for 
Daring Fireball readers that will work for this week only: DF201202 if you 
download and purchase the program from the Rogue Amoeba web site:
http://rogueamoeba.com/
(As you might guess, the Mac App Store doesn't support coupon promotions or 
trial downloads.)

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther 

On Feb 7, 2012, at 10:23 AM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:

 Hi,
 
 If I understand correctly, Amadeus pro can record sound. Is there a reason to 
 use audio highjack pro for recording the tapes?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Ioana
 
 Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online 
 stores.
 
 On Feb 7, 2012, at 10:18 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 Canpt go wrong with the Griphin Imic.  A nice little unit that has an input 
 jack which is swichable between Mic and linein and an earphone jack also.  
 The USB corde, (built in) is a little on the short side.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype name:
 barefootedray
 
 Facebook:
 facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
 
 
 
 On Feb 7, 2012, at 9:06 AM, Marc Sutton wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I have a Macbook Air. I don't believe it has in input jack. What usb sound 
 cards do people recommend  for use in these situations? Thanks.
 Marc
 
 On Feb 7, 2012, at 6:57 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 Not at all.  Just let it record all the way  through.  You can do all the 
 track deviding later when you're done recording.  In fact, I've done the 
 same with vinyl LP records.  after I descratch and denois them, (using RX 
 from Izotope), I go back to Amadeus pro and cut out the parts where the 
 record changed sides and then, still using amadeus pro, I place all my 
 marks exactly where I want them.  Then, I fade out the end of each track 
 and insert silence between each track and then, I go through and take out 
 the markers I no longer want and then, the fun begins.  I enter the marker 
 window and rename all the markers to correspond with each track.  Make 
 sure, by the way, that you place a marker at the beginning of the first 
 track when you do this otherwise, that first track will not be marked up 
 for devition.  Now, after you've made sure that each marker is exactly at 
 the beginning of each track and you've named them, Now, you can go in to 
 the sound menu and devide the file according to the markers.  This opens 
 up a window where you can choose what format you want each segment saved 
 in.  Also, be aware that the folder that is created when you do this will 
 have the same name as the file from which the other files were taken.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype name:
 barefootedray
 
 Facebook:
 facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
 
 
 
 On Feb 7, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
 
 Do you have to stop the tape every 10 minutes to divide in to tracks?
 On Feb 5, 2012, at 6:19 PM, Eric Caron wrote:
 
 Hello Sarai ,
 
 There are many different ways to do this on the mac.  I'll outline for 
 you how I do it.  First I have a regular tape deck on a stereo so I 
 purchased the Griffin iMike.  this usb device lets you plug in the 
 output from your stereo or from a mike directly into your computer.  So 
 once you plug a cable with the input into the Mike you will select the 
 setting on the Mike for powered or unpowered.  for a stereo it is 
 unpowered.  I use a cable with two RCA plugs attached to the tape output 
 and on the other end a standard 35 millimeter jack like the one on 
 headphones for the iPhone.
 
 Next I use Amadeus pro.  With that program you can input the tape then 
 edit tracks and much more.  I then save in the format of my choice  and 
 my tapes are now digital. 
 
 I do the same thing for vinyl records.
 
 There is a slightly outdated podcast on blindcooltech.com I think I 
 called it Amadeus Pro Vinyl to CD.  It covers a lot of the Amadeus Pro 
 basics. 
 
 If you have a USB tape player then you will not need the Griffin iMike. 
 
 Hope this helps.

Re: Anyone Using Google Chrome with VO?

2012-02-07 Thread Teresa Cochran

I find it works quite well with Facebook. I notice practically no busy 
messages.

Teresa

Nobody ever tells me anything!--James Forsyte, quoted in the Forsyte Saga

On Feb 7, 2012, at 10:51 AM, Bejarano, Rafael P. wrote:

 How does Google Chrome do with Facebook?  I find that Safari does not work 
 very well with that website.
 
 Rafael Bejarano
 On Feb 7, 2012, at 9:48 AM, Larry Skutchan wrote:
 
 Chrome works great with VO and is a very very nice browser. Once in a great 
 while, it is necessary to use Safari for some accessibility reason, but most 
 of the time, Chrome rocks.
 
 On Feb 7, 2012, at 1:39 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 
 Hi, all,
 
 Upon a cursory look at vO with Google chrome, I notice no major 
 accessibility booboos. Does anyone else use VO successfully with this app? 
 I'm finding that I don't really care to use a separate voicing app for one 
 particular web browser, because I have to turn off VO, and turn it back on 
 when switching windows, and also, the two text-to-speech chrome extensions, 
 Chromevox and MetalMouth, do not work in parts of the browser other than 
 the page content.
 
 Thanks,
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Re: instructions on how to use pages with voice over?

2012-02-07 Thread CJ Daniel

Chenelle,

I'm just embarking upon my Pages adventure, as I've recently decided to become 
familiar with the program using VO.  As I discovered in the past, while using 
MS Word with Windows  JAWS, one of the tricks to using any feature-packed 
application with adaptive software is to learn about that applications shortcut 
keys.  Often times, these hot-keys can accomplish your goals, with a minimum of 
fuss  much less effort than the work-arounds that the adaptive software tries 
to piggy-back on to the original processing needs of the software in question.  
To whit, I have begun my adventure by selecting the short-cut keys option under 
the Help menu in pages.  This will provide you with a list of nearly 250 
various key combinations in Pages for accomplishing all sorts of tasks.  
Daunting?  I'll say, but it's a start.

I wish you luck  invite you to share any of your findings as well,

CJ


On Feb 7, 2012, at 7:40 AM, Chenelle Hancock wrote:

 hi everyone:
 i have had my mb pro for about sixteen months now and  for the life of me!. i 
  am still having problems using page correctly with voice over etc... i 
 wanted to know if there were a list of key board commands that i could use to 
 navigate pages?.
 thank you so much for your time i really appreciate it.
 sincerely, chenelle.
 
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Mager lybrarry problem in itunes.

2012-02-07 Thread matthew Dyer

Hi all.

I just moved my itunes lybrarry over to an external hd and now I have a mager. 
problem with it.

All of my track names have invalid location before the name.  Any ideas on how 
to fix this please?  

Thanks.

Matthew.


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RE: Mager lybrarry problem in itunes.

2012-02-07 Thread Daniel Miller

Hi,

You need to consolidate your library. That will fix the issue. You moved the
files, so Itunes has no idea they're not in the media folder anymore, so
it's still trying to find them there.


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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of matthew Dyer
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 3:54 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Mager lybrarry problem in itunes.

Hi all.

I just moved my itunes lybrarry over to an external hd and now I have a
mager. problem with it.

All of my track names have invalid location before the name.  Any ideas on
how to fix this please?  

Thanks.

Matthew.


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Re: Anyone Using Google Chrome with VO?

2012-02-07 Thread Frank Tom

I used it when I went to the MyWay web site in Switzerland. The site is in 
either French or German and I had Google Chrome translate from German into 
English. It worked remarkably well.

Tom
On Feb 7, 2012, at 1:39 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

 Hi, all,
 
 Upon a cursory look at vO with Google chrome, I notice no major accessibility 
 booboos. Does anyone else use VO successfully with this app? I'm finding that 
 I don't really care to use a separate voicing app for one particular web 
 browser, because I have to turn off VO, and turn it back on when switching 
 windows, and also, the two text-to-speech chrome extensions, Chromevox and 
 MetalMouth, do not work in parts of the browser other than the page content.
 
 Thanks,
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Help getting started with Amadeus

2012-02-07 Thread Marlaina Lieberg

After all the good things I've read, I have downloaded the trial of the light 
version.  I cannot locate info on keyboard commands.  Could somebody get me 
started?  I'd like to know where I might find a list, but would like to know 
for starters how to select sound, highlight it, drop markers, etc.  I am using 
sound forge on my windows machine, but would dearly love to be able to do more 
recording on the mac side of the house.

Reach within you, find the beauty of you, then share your light with the world!

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Re: converting tapes to MP3

2012-02-07 Thread Hank Smith


how do you moniter what you are listening to though?
On 2/7/2012 8:24 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

Hi,

sure the Macbook air does.  Its just that input and output is handled by the 
same jack.  Go to systempreferences/sounds and you can select if the headphone 
jack is used for input or output.

hth

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On Feb 7, 2012, at 10:06 AM, Marc Sutton wrote:


Hi,

I have a Macbook Air. I don't believe it has in input jack. What usb sound 
cards do people recommend  for use in these situations? Thanks.
Marc

On Feb 7, 2012, at 6:57 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:


Not at all.  Just let it record all the way  through.  You can do all the track 
deviding later when you're done recording.  In fact, I've done the same with 
vinyl LP records.  after I descratch and denois them, (using RX from Izotope), 
I go back to Amadeus pro and cut out the parts where the record changed sides 
and then, still using amadeus pro, I place all my marks exactly where I want 
them.  Then, I fade out the end of each track and insert silence between each 
track and then, I go through and take out the markers I no longer want and 
then, the fun begins.  I enter the marker window and rename all the markers to 
correspond with each track.  Make sure, by the way, that you place a marker at 
the beginning of the first track when you do this otherwise, that first track 
will not be marked up for devition.  Now, after you've made sure that each 
marker is exactly at the beginning of each track and you've named them, Now, 
you can go in to the sound menu and devide the file according to the markers.  
This opens up a window where you can choose what format you want each segment 
saved in.  Also, be aware that the folder that is created when you do this will 
have the same name as the file from which the other files were taken.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

Skype name:
barefootedray

Facebook:
facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1



On Feb 7, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:


Do you have to stop the tape every 10 minutes to divide in to tracks?
On Feb 5, 2012, at 6:19 PM, Eric Caron wrote:


Hello Sarai ,

There are many different ways to do this on the mac.  I'll outline for you how 
I do it.  First I have a regular tape deck on a stereo so I purchased the 
Griffin iMike.  this usb device lets you plug in the output from your stereo or 
from a mike directly into your computer.  So once you plug a cable with the 
input into the Mike you will select the setting on the Mike for powered or 
unpowered.  for a stereo it is unpowered.  I use a cable with two RCA plugs 
attached to the tape output and on the other end a standard 35 millimeter jack 
like the one on headphones for the iPhone.

Next I use Amadeus pro.  With that program you can input the tape then edit 
tracks and much more.  I then save in the format of my choice  and my tapes are 
now digital.

I do the same thing for vinyl records.

There is a slightly outdated podcast on blindcooltech.com I think I called it 
Amadeus Pro Vinyl to CD.  It covers a lot of the Amadeus Pro basics.

If you have a USB tape player then you will not need the Griffin iMike.

Hope this helps.

eRic Caron



On Feb 5, 2012, at 2:50 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:


Hi guys:
Is it possible for a blind person to convert tapes to MP3 files using a Mac 
with Voiceover? If so, what is needed to do this, and what is the process?

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Re: utorrent and accessibility?

2012-02-07 Thread Eric Oyen

last time I tried to update to 10.6.8, I ran into the problem of my usb ports 
not working, which means no access  to the machine. 

I  will get some sighted help here, as I also happen to be a hackintosh  user 
(I know, it is strictly outside the Apple EULA, but it is the only I can have 
accessibility without having to shell out for jaws and windows 7). still, I am 
saving up for either a new mac mini (core i7) or a mac book pro (used). 

btw, for those that will inevitably ask: I do own a legal (purchased directly 
from apple) a DVD of Snow Leopard.

-eric

On Feb 7, 2012, at 9:25 AM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote:

 regarding utorrent. I use it myself and have no problems with it. please be 
 advised to upgrade to 10.6.8 for better accessibility within certain app 
 environments.
 
 I swear by utorrent for recovery data volumes and other software through 
 official distributors like linux, etc. love it to bits.
 
 anyway enough from e.
 
 lew
 
 On 7 Feb 2012, at 15:00, Wes Smith wrote:
 
 I'm not sure...it just works...didnt change any settings
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:40 PM, Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 ok, how did you manage this? I am running OS X 10.6.4 and all I get is the 
 pulldown menus, toolbar items, empty scorell area and some frame elements.
 
 also, I attempted to register on the uTorrent forums and was faced with a 
 shockwave flash captcha that won't play sound here.
 
 so? what settings must I change for accessibility to be usable?
 
 -eric
 
 On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:26 PM, Wes Smith wrote:
 
 Utorrent works fine for me, I can see everything
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:59 PM, Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I used to use torrent as my default torrent transfer agent (torrent makes 
 getting linux distress so much easier). the only problem is that I cannot 
 find the details pane. I also can't tell when a torrent is done or not. 
 this is so frustrating. it seems that the only torrent client that would 
 be worth anything is reorient (A command line client) but I am missing 
 some libs to make the packages here.
 
 anyone have any suggestions as far as other accessible torrent clients 
 goes? both torrent and fuze don't display anything other than the 
 toolbars and frame elements.
 
 -eric
 
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Re: Mager lybrarry problem in itunes.

Hi,

This is not necessary.  Unless he first changes the location of the iTunes 
media folder in iTunes prefs, consolidating will just do nothing at best, and 
at worse make a duplicatete copy of all his media oh his hard drive that he 
probably just moved his library from.  I think the best thing to do here is 
just point iTunes at the new location.  Open iTunes prefs and under advanced, 
and under iTunes Media folder location hit the change button.  Now select the 
location of the iTunes media folder in the file browser.  This should fix the 
problem. your 

Ricardo Walker
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On Feb 7, 2012, at 4:55 PM, Daniel Miller wrote:

 Hi,
 
 You need to consolidate your library. That will fix the issue. You moved the
 files, so Itunes has no idea they're not in the media folder anymore, so
 it's still trying to find them there.
 
 
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 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of matthew Dyer
 Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 3:54 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Mager lybrarry problem in itunes.
 
 Hi all.
 
 I just moved my itunes lybrarry over to an external hd and now I have a
 mager. problem with it.
 
 All of my track names have invalid location before the name.  Any ideas on
 how to fix this please?  
 
 Thanks.
 
 Matthew.
 
 
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RE: Mager lybrarry problem in itunes.

2012-02-07 Thread Daniel Miller

Oh, right. I got them reversed. Lol my mistake.

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
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Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 5:52 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mager lybrarry problem in itunes.

Hi,

This is not necessary.  Unless he first changes the location of the iTunes
media folder in iTunes prefs, consolidating will just do nothing at best,
and at worse make a duplicatete copy of all his media oh his hard drive that
he probably just moved his library from.  I think the best thing to do here
is just point iTunes at the new location.  Open iTunes prefs and under
advanced, and under iTunes Media folder location hit the change button.  Now
select the location of the iTunes media folder in the file browser.  This
should fix the problem. your 

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Feb 7, 2012, at 4:55 PM, Daniel Miller wrote:

 Hi,

 You need to consolidate your library. That will fix the issue. You 
 moved the files, so Itunes has no idea they're not in the media folder 
 anymore, so it's still trying to find them there.

 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of matthew Dyer
 Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 3:54 PM
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 Subject: Mager lybrarry problem in itunes.

 Hi all.

 I just moved my itunes lybrarry over to an external hd and now I have 
 a mager. problem with it.

 All of my track names have invalid location before the name.  Any 
 ideas on how to fix this please?

 Thanks.

 Matthew.

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Re: Anyone Using Google Chrome with VO?

2012-02-07 Thread Mike Arrigo

It work well with voice over, but there are a few issues. Voiceover does not 
see lists, such as what you might find on some email sites. Also, pressing vo 
shift u to hear the location of a link does not work. I have also seen times 
where using voiceover to click links does not work, but this only happens 
sometimes. Over all chrome is good to have around, you can also install 
chromevox and enable and disable it as you wish.
On Feb 7, 2012, at 12:39 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

 Hi, all,
 
 Upon a cursory look at vO with Google chrome, I notice no major accessibility 
 booboos. Does anyone else use VO successfully with this app? I'm finding that 
 I don't really care to use a separate voicing app for one particular web 
 browser, because I have to turn off VO, and turn it back on when switching 
 windows, and also, the two text-to-speech chrome extensions, Chromevox and 
 MetalMouth, do not work in parts of the browser other than the page content.
 
 Thanks,
 Teresa
 
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Re: Creating Presentations USING KeyNote

2012-02-07 Thread ezzie bueno


Hello Anne,

My presentation must include two pictures along with a biography, 
motivations, something interesting about myself, and my future 
plans.  Would it be a good idea to discuss these items in their 
own separate slides? How can I get pictures into the document 
itself?


Thanks,
Ezzie

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From: Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 17:14:22 +0100
Subject: Re: Creating Presentations USING KeyNote

Hello Ezzie,

On 7 Feb 2012, at 06:58, ezzie bueno wrote:

Can you lovely people please help me with the basics of creating 
PowerPoint presentations using KeyNote? I've never created a 
presentation before.


I'm afraid the answer is much too complicated to put into an 
e-mail message.  Most people take a course to learn how to do 
presentations.


Have you listened to the VoiceOver On podcast that covered this? 
It might at least give you some idea.


I can tell you that it's perfectly possible to create 
presentations in KeyNote using VO.


Will your presentation include pictures or graphics? Or will it 
just be text?


Cheers,

Anne

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where did my bookmarks go?

2012-02-07 Thread Matthew Campbell

Hi all.
I wanted to go to one of my bookmarked sites recently but found that there was 
no second table when I hit Command Option B to show all bookmarks.
Has anyone else had this issue?
Thanks,
Matthew Campbell.


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syncing reminders between iPhone and ical?

Hi all,

I have some location reminders on the iPhone but they do not appear to sync on 
ical. Is this even possible? Do date reminders synced between ical and iPhone?

Thanks,

Ioana

Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online 
stores.

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Re: utorrent and accessibility?

that explains it.

the reason you encounter the USB issue is due to the fact that apple 
deliberately  created an attack code for Hackintosh systems

Though I won't go into the ethics of it I strongly disapprove of hackintosh 
methods. not only is it not permitted by apple but it's also an issue of 
hardware dependancy.

if you're looking for a mac capable of running snow leopard, may I suggest 
checking places like ebay for some of the earlier intel iMacs, macbooks, 
macbook pro's, mac mini's etc as you're bound to come across a system very 
cheap which will cater you officially and permit upgrades, especially where 
voiceover is concerned.

lew

On 7 Feb 2012, at 23:26, Eric Oyen wrote:

 last time I tried to update to 10.6.8, I ran into the problem of my usb ports 
 not working, which means no access  to the machine. 
 
 I  will get some sighted help here, as I also happen to be a hackintosh  user 
 (I know, it is strictly outside the Apple EULA, but it is the only I can have 
 accessibility without having to shell out for jaws and windows 7). still, I 
 am saving up for either a new mac mini (core i7) or a mac book pro (used). 
 
 btw, for those that will inevitably ask: I do own a legal (purchased directly 
 from apple) a DVD of Snow Leopard.
 
 -eric
 
 On Feb 7, 2012, at 9:25 AM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote:
 
 regarding utorrent. I use it myself and have no problems with it. please be 
 advised to upgrade to 10.6.8 for better accessibility within certain app 
 environments.
 
 I swear by utorrent for recovery data volumes and other software through 
 official distributors like linux, etc. love it to bits.
 
 anyway enough from e.
 
 lew
 
 On 7 Feb 2012, at 15:00, Wes Smith wrote:
 
 I'm not sure...it just works...didnt change any settings
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:40 PM, Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 ok, how did you manage this? I am running OS X 10.6.4 and all I get is the 
 pulldown menus, toolbar items, empty scorell area and some frame elements.
 
 also, I attempted to register on the uTorrent forums and was faced with a 
 shockwave flash captcha that won't play sound here.
 
 so? what settings must I change for accessibility to be usable?
 
 -eric
 
 On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:26 PM, Wes Smith wrote:
 
 Utorrent works fine for me, I can see everything
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:59 PM, Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I used to use torrent as my default torrent transfer agent (torrent 
 makes getting linux distress so much easier). the only problem is that I 
 cannot find the details pane. I also can't tell when a torrent is done 
 or not. this is so frustrating. it seems that the only torrent client 
 that would be worth anything is reorient (A command line client) but I 
 am missing some libs to make the packages here.
 
 anyone have any suggestions as far as other accessible torrent clients 
 goes? both torrent and fuze don't display anything other than the 
 toolbars and frame elements.
 
 -eric
 
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Re: utorrent and accessibility?

2012-02-07 Thread Jessica

Ok, as to not make this an off-topic post, can I get some tips from you off 
list on purchasing stuff on ebay?  I'm in the market for an IPhone, seeing 
as how my phone is giving me issues, and I'm tired of having it reset time 
and again and really don't feel like having it replaced for a 3rd time.
 However, I'm not eligible for an upgrade until November, and can't afford 
to buy one outright, so would really appreciate some tips so as not to end 
up purchasing one that's been stolen and not know it until it's too late.
- Original Message - 
From: Mr. L. Alexander turningbyto...@gmail.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 5:56 PM
Subject: Re: utorrent and accessibility?


that explains it.

the reason you encounter the USB issue is due to the fact that apple 
deliberately  created an attack code for Hackintosh systems


Though I won't go into the ethics of it I strongly disapprove of 
hackintosh methods. not only is it not permitted by apple but it's also an 
issue of hardware dependancy.


if you're looking for a mac capable of running snow leopard, may I suggest 
checking places like ebay for some of the earlier intel iMacs, macbooks, 
macbook pro's, mac mini's etc as you're bound to come across a system very 
cheap which will cater you officially and permit upgrades, especially where 
voiceover is concerned.


lew

On 7 Feb 2012, at 23:26, Eric Oyen wrote:

last time I tried to update to 10.6.8, I ran into the problem of my usb 
ports not working, which means no access  to the machine.


I  will get some sighted help here, as I also happen to be a hackintosh 
user (I know, it is strictly outside the Apple EULA, but it is the only I 
can have accessibility without having to shell out for jaws and windows 
7). still, I am saving up for either a new mac mini (core i7) or a mac 
book pro (used).


btw, for those that will inevitably ask: I do own a legal (purchased 
directly from apple) a DVD of Snow Leopard.


-eric

On Feb 7, 2012, at 9:25 AM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote:

regarding utorrent. I use it myself and have no problems with it. please 
be advised to upgrade to 10.6.8 for better accessibility within certain 
app environments.


I swear by utorrent for recovery data volumes and other software through 
official distributors like linux, etc. love it to bits.


anyway enough from e.

lew

On 7 Feb 2012, at 15:00, Wes Smith wrote:


I'm not sure...it just works...didnt change any settings

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:40 PM, Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com wrote:

ok, how did you manage this? I am running OS X 10.6.4 and all I get is 
the pulldown menus, toolbar items, empty scorell area and some frame 
elements.


also, I attempted to register on the uTorrent forums and was faced with 
a shockwave flash captcha that won't play sound here.


so? what settings must I change for accessibility to be usable?

-eric

On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:26 PM, Wes Smith wrote:


Utorrent works fine for me, I can see everything

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:59 PM, Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com wrote:

I used to use torrent as my default torrent transfer agent (torrent 
makes getting linux distress so much easier). the only problem is 
that I cannot find the details pane. I also can't tell when a torrent 
is done or not. this is so frustrating. it seems that the only 
torrent client that would be worth anything is reorient (A command 
line client) but I am missing some libs to make the packages here.


anyone have any suggestions as far as other accessible torrent 
clients goes? both torrent and fuze don't display anything other than 
the toolbars and frame elements.


-eric

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deleting content from iPod

Hi guys:
I have a 5th gen Nano. I can copy and paste content using iTunes. I cannot 
delete content anymore, nor set the view options, and column browser options. 
That part is dimmed. When I navigate the podcast table under iPod/podcasts, and 
hit delete, nothing happens. My settings are to manually manage content. Any 
thoughts? 

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Re: utorrent and accessibility?

2012-02-07 Thread Eric Oyen

finding them hasn't been the problem.. finding the money to buy any of them is 
a very big issue. There is a reason that apple hasn't gone after folks like me. 
it is because that part of their EULA would be considered unenforceable. there 
is also a value in having people like me that have such a system setup: 
debugging and development. 

as for the USB issue, I wasn't aware of any Attack code written into the 
updater. guess I learn something new everyday. 

anyway, thanks for the input.

-eric

On Feb 7, 2012, at 6:56 PM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote:

 that explains it.
 
 the reason you encounter the USB issue is due to the fact that apple 
 deliberately  created an attack code for Hackintosh systems
 
 Though I won't go into the ethics of it I strongly disapprove of hackintosh 
 methods. not only is it not permitted by apple but it's also an issue of 
 hardware dependancy.
 
 if you're looking for a mac capable of running snow leopard, may I suggest 
 checking places like ebay for some of the earlier intel iMacs, macbooks, 
 macbook pro's, mac mini's etc as you're bound to come across a system very 
 cheap which will cater you officially and permit upgrades, especially where 
 voiceover is concerned.
 
 lew
 
 On 7 Feb 2012, at 23:26, Eric Oyen wrote:
 
 last time I tried to update to 10.6.8, I ran into the problem of my usb 
 ports not working, which means no access  to the machine. 
 
 I  will get some sighted help here, as I also happen to be a hackintosh  
 user (I know, it is strictly outside the Apple EULA, but it is the only I 
 can have accessibility without having to shell out for jaws and windows 7). 
 still, I am saving up for either a new mac mini (core i7) or a mac book pro 
 (used). 
 
 btw, for those that will inevitably ask: I do own a legal (purchased 
 directly from apple) a DVD of Snow Leopard.
 
 -eric
 
 On Feb 7, 2012, at 9:25 AM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote:
 
 regarding utorrent. I use it myself and have no problems with it. please be 
 advised to upgrade to 10.6.8 for better accessibility within certain app 
 environments.
 
 I swear by utorrent for recovery data volumes and other software through 
 official distributors like linux, etc. love it to bits.
 
 anyway enough from e.
 
 lew
 
 On 7 Feb 2012, at 15:00, Wes Smith wrote:
 
 I'm not sure...it just works...didnt change any settings
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:40 PM, Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 ok, how did you manage this? I am running OS X 10.6.4 and all I get is 
 the pulldown menus, toolbar items, empty scorell area and some frame 
 elements.
 
 also, I attempted to register on the uTorrent forums and was faced with a 
 shockwave flash captcha that won't play sound here.
 
 so? what settings must I change for accessibility to be usable?
 
 -eric
 
 On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:26 PM, Wes Smith wrote:
 
 Utorrent works fine for me, I can see everything
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:59 PM, Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I used to use torrent as my default torrent transfer agent (torrent 
 makes getting linux distress so much easier). the only problem is that 
 I cannot find the details pane. I also can't tell when a torrent is 
 done or not. this is so frustrating. it seems that the only torrent 
 client that would be worth anything is reorient (A command line client) 
 but I am missing some libs to make the packages here.
 
 anyone have any suggestions as far as other accessible torrent clients 
 goes? both torrent and fuze don't display anything other than the 
 toolbars and frame elements.
 
 -eric
 
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Re: converting tapes to MP3