Re: Advice on VO Plist

[Gerry Cook]

Hi Colin I had this happen when i first updated to yosemiti and i went to the 
user library and deleted any of the vo plist files command down arrow to select 
them all and after that all went back to normal, because there could have been 
a currupt speech file and as they re generate that should fix the problem.All 
the best and i hope that helps. then you can check that other box to do with 
the apple scripts.
cheers gerry have a nice day
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> On 24 Apr 2015, at 9:53 am, Colin Matthews  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> OK it looks like I've got to maybe remove the VO Plist and I want to make 
> sure I'm deleting the right one!
> I did a [I thought] clean install of Yosemite also erasing my HD before 
> installing Yosemite I was on Mavericks!
> Well under Mavericks somehow I set something with Voice over where if I put 
> 12in after a track name VO would say 12 inches as I wanted but I ended up 
> with [not on everything] but like on an Email thread where the title is 
> "updating to 8.3" my voice over says 8.3inches even though there is no [in] 
> after the 8.3!
> So I thought after doing a total clean install of Yosemite would solve that!
> Well it still says it and also VO utility will not let me check the [allow 
> voice over to be controlled by apple scripts]
> and some letters are not spoken when I type like[c]
> So do I delete the whole VO plist or just part of them!
> Then do I empty the trash before restarting?
> Thanks!
> I've done the usuals Disc repairs and I also did a VO total reset!
> Colin
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Re: office preview for mac, Reading by Word??

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Maurice,

You need to get the update. Go to the Help menu and you’ll find it there. You 
have to jump through hoops to get the process established. The first thing is 
an update app which has to be downloaded.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 23 Apr 2015, at 19:32, Maurice Mines  wrote:
> 
> Good morning list, in response to this I can’t get Microsoft Word preview for 
> the Mac to work at all. Should I be just uninstalling it until this program 
> actually does something other than take up space on my hard drive? Because so 
> far I do the program and the Microsoft Office preview as a whole is 
> completely inaccessible which is about par for the course with this 
> particular kind of software. Unless someone can prove to me, and/or show me 
> that this is a viable product for anyone who is totally blind using the Mac 
> in the future. Any thoughts?
> 
> Sincerely Maurice mines.
> message number 505-369-3283.
> Note the text of this email that I have written, has been updated by using 
> Dragon 4.0 for the Mac. If there are any errors in the text of this message, 
> they are the result of either the software or the detention dictation process.
>> On Apr 23, 2015, at 7:30 AM, Krister Ekstrom  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> A thought i got, isn’t there a setting in Voiceover where you make the 
>> cursor behave like it does in Windows rather than how it behaves on the Mac? 
>> What if you made an activity where you turned this behaviour on or if it’s 
>> on turn it off?
>> /Krister
>> 
>>> 22 apr 2015 kl. 22:59 skrev Anne Robertson :
>>> 
>>> Editing in Word is Weird. When I do Option-Right Arrow, then just Right 
>>> Arrow alone, it reads each letter of the word I just thought I’d jumped 
>>> over. Also, Option-Left Arrow apparently takes me to the left of the word 
>>> before the one I thought I’d jumped over.
>>> 
>>> I also have insertion point issues, but not consistently. Several times, 
>>> I’ve pasted text only to find it’s in the wrong place.
>>> 
>>> As I said in a previous message, I haven’t used Word since Word 5, so I 
>>> don’t know how many of the oddities are standard behaviour for Word.
>>> 
>>> Also, the spell check almost works, but VO doesn’t read the word in 
>>> question! And has anyone figured out how to change the font? I opened a 
>>> blank document and the font was set to Calibri and although I found the 
>>> combo box, the menu showed me nothing.
>>> 
>>> I haven’t reported anything yet as I’m still feeling my way around it. I 
>>> tried to insert a table, but the command was dimmed, and although I had 
>>> words in my document, the word count said zero. This was strange because 
>>> when I was working on my translation, the word count etc worked fine.
>>> 
>>> Also, when I worked on my translation, Word said it was in Compatibility 
>>> mode but I couldn’t discover where this was set.
>>> 
>>> Sorry for the ramble.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
 On 22 Apr 2015, at 22:31, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
 
 This seems to be an issue at the end of the line.  It's been reported by 
 other users on this list.  I have tried this and I can reproduce this 
 problem  At the end of the line the word reads twice when you land on it 
 and when you vo+arrow to the next line.  It makes me feel quite insecure 
 in the sense that I don't know which line I'm in.  Sometimes i have to go 
 back a word and forward again to make sure I've read the wrod word right.
 
 I've reported it via the "feedback" option in Word itself but maybe if you 
 have the number or e-mail for microsoft office accessibility it would 
 certainly be worth reporting.  We must continue the pressure on microsoft 
 since its release of a promising product.
 
 Andrew
> On 22 Apr 2015, at 18:44, 'Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> In the latest Office Preview for Mac, I cannot get Option Right Arrow to 
> read word by word.
> Option Left Arrow does seem to be reading prior words.
> I'm just wondering if this is specific to my system or has anyone tried 
> this out?
> Thanks.
> 
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Seeking Recommendations for Check Writing Software

[Bill Gallik]

All;

I’ve been using Talking Checkbook for check writing on my Windows PC for about 
10 years.  However with my migration to Mac I’m wondering if any similar 
software is available for Macs?

Any and all suggestions are appreciated!
* * * * * * * * *
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Re: Wow!!!! apple watch is on its way.

[Donna Goodin]

Enjoy!  I'll be anxious to hear about your experiences.  I'll post mind as soon 
as I can.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Apr 23, 2015, at 4:09 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> Yes. I too have received notice that my two watches will be arriving 
> tomorrow, despite one of them previously being marked for much later. Makes a 
> nice change, that—I was way too late to preorder the iPhone 6 Plus. Guess the 
> secret is: get in early.
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Re: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Sorry, could you just clarify for me: were the watches you tried the sport 
models or the stainless steel models?  I’ve read lots of accounts of Apple 
stores carrying different sizes of watch, but not of the same type, and I’d be 
interested to know why people are opting for the steel model over the Sport if 
they are doing so, or whether their impression is true for both types.  The 
steel model seems to be reported as very chunky, and I’m wondering if the Sport 
improves on that.

The watches arriving tomorrow are both the Sport because I’m in trial mode with 
these things.  The wisdom of going to the Store to actually see them before 
ordering them is nothing to getting them tomorrow, and I can see all the others 
whenever my store next carries them. :)

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Re: Adware warning!

[Joe Quinn]

That's why I just got booth programs now, will test accessibility when i get to 
the mac.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 23, 2015, at 6:59 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> The Adware menace has, unfortunately, spread to the Mac, yes.
> 
> The good news is that, right now, there are fairly few strains of the stuff, 
> and AdwareMedic is a very good bet on its removal.  Antivirus software 
> typically doesn’t identify adware because, while obnoxious in the extreme, it 
> isn’t actually malicious—at least, not in the sense of actually being harmful 
> to your computer.
> 
> The bad news is that, like Windows users, you are no longer insulated by 
> obscurity against your own misjudgement.  Install software only from 
> reputable sources; do not download from any site other than that which 
> officially distributes the software.  In general this means that you do not 
> download from any repository, such as a download site, but get the software 
> directly from the project’s own web page, typically the page of the author.  
> Naturally, if you trust Apple, one obvious way to seal things tight is only 
> to install from the Mac App Store, or only to install Apple-signed software.  
> In any event, do not install software merely because you were asked to do so 
> by any message coming from within your web browser.  In case of doubt, ask 
> questions.
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Re: Adware warning!

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

The Adware menace has, unfortunately, spread to the Mac, yes.

The good news is that, right now, there are fairly few strains of the stuff, 
and AdwareMedic is a very good bet on its removal.  Antivirus software 
typically doesn’t identify adware because, while obnoxious in the extreme, it 
isn’t actually malicious—at least, not in the sense of actually being harmful 
to your computer.

The bad news is that, like Windows users, you are no longer insulated by 
obscurity against your own misjudgement.  Install software only from reputable 
sources; do not download from any site other than that which officially 
distributes the software.  In general this means that you do not download from 
any repository, such as a download site, but get the software directly from the 
project’s own web page, typically the page of the author.  Naturally, if you 
trust Apple, one obvious way to seal things tight is only to install from the 
Mac App Store, or only to install Apple-signed software.  In any event, do not 
install software merely because you were asked to do so by any message coming 
from within your web browser.  In case of doubt, ask questions.

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Advice on VO Plist

[Colin Matthews]

Hi!
OK it looks like I've got to maybe remove the VO Plist and I want to make sure 
I'm deleting the right one!
I did a [I thought] clean install of Yosemite also erasing my HD before 
installing Yosemite I was on Mavericks!
Well under Mavericks somehow I set something with Voice over where if I put 
12in after a track name VO would say 12 inches as I wanted but I ended up with 
[not on everything] but like on an Email thread where the title is "updating to 
8.3" my voice over says 8.3inches even though there is no [in] after the 8.3!
So I thought after doing a total clean install of Yosemite would solve that!
Well it still says it and also VO utility will not let me check the [allow 
voice over to be controlled by apple scripts]
and some letters are not spoken when I type like[c]
So do I delete the whole VO plist or just part of them!
Then do I empty the trash before restarting?
Thanks!
I've done the usuals Disc repairs and I also did a VO total reset!
Colin

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RE: Adware warning!

[M. Taylor]

Hello Christine,  

I am so sorry that you had to experience such a, what for many of us, would be 
a scary thing.  

You know, a month or so ago, a friend of mine purchased a new MacBook Air.  

I don't know what she did between the Friday when I set it up and the following 
Tuesday but when next I saw it, there was no doubt but that she had been 
hacked/compromised.  I don't remember the particulars but a quick Google search 
confirmed it.

Now even though many hate to hear this, I'll tell you that, for my money, the 
only way to really be certain that you have a clean secure system is to (1) 
restore from a known good backup such as one would have using SuperDuper or (2) 
wiping the drive clean and performing a fresh install.  As far as I am 
concerned, once your system has been compromised, there are no other options.

So many times I see both Windows and Mac users take less drastic steps to 
redeem their systems only to have the same problems crop up a few weeks or 
sometimes months later.  

This is just my opinion, of course, as I do not want to start a heated debate.

Mark

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Christine Grassman
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 3:55 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Adware warning!

I want you all to know about something I just experienced.
I was on Twitter within Safari and a “critical service warning” popped up, 
informing me that a malicious virus had been detected and had attacked my 
system, and that “we have shut down all of your critical systems to protect any 
further damage.” The warning went on to give this number:
888 553-4193
and directed me to give a number starting with Mac and ending with several 
digits.
My BS detector was on full alert. 
I called Apple and told them what was going on. I was informed that this occurs 
several times a day at least, and that it usually involves adware.
When a screen sharing session link was sent, Safari could not find the server, 
nor could Google Chrome. 
I was then told to open the MacBook in safe mode, and I thought I could use 
VoiceOver in safe mode, but it would not come on, and command F5 would not 
bring it up.
The tech support rep handed me over to someone who had more VoiceOver 
experience. He had me shut down and restart normally, then sent me the ability 
to screen share by using my apple ID, which made the screen sharing like an 
application, which enabled me to go to adwaremedic.com, download adware medic, 
and run it.
This problem appears to be resolved, but I wanted you all to be aware of this 
incident, as well as to inquire: Isn’t there a way to use VoiceOver in safe 
mode?
Thank you . . . and be careful out there. I was told people have been known to 
give their credit card numbers to these people thinking they are getting their 
computers fixed.
Christine

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Re: Adware warning!

[Christine Grassman]

I asked the Apple tech support rep about whether I should install anything else 
besides adware Medic and he did not seem to think I needed anything more. I do 
have to say that no one I know personally  who has  a Mac has antivirus 
software, and precious few have had issues. I will look into this though. 
Thanks. 
Christine

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Re: Adware warning!

[Ray Foret Jr]

First, I know of kno way to use Voice Over at the true route level of the drive 
itself.  Second, I just cannot halp asking.  Do you have any sort of anti virus 
protection on board your system?  IF not, for my part, I urge you to consider 
it.  What you get is, of course, up to you:  and, there will be quite a few 
recommendations from the folks here:  but, for my part, ClamXAV can't be beat 
for accessibility, eas of use, and completeness of protection.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray

Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!

Sent from my Mac,
the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in

> On Apr 23, 2015, at 5:54 PM, Christine Grassman  
> wrote:
> 
> I want you all to know about something I just experienced.
> I was on Twitter within Safari and a “critical service warning” popped up, 
> informing me that a malicious virus had been detected and had attacked my 
> system, and that “we have shut down all of your critical systems to protect 
> any further damage.” The warning went on to give this number:
> 888 553-4193
> and directed me to give a number starting with Mac and ending with several 
> digits.
> My BS detector was on full alert. 
> I called Apple and told them what was going on. I was informed that this 
> occurs several times a day at least, and that it usually involves adware.
> When a screen sharing session link was sent, Safari could not find the 
> server, nor could Google Chrome. 
> I was then told to open the MacBook in safe mode, and I thought I could use 
> VoiceOver in safe mode, but it would not come on, and command F5 would not 
> bring it up.
> The tech support rep handed me over to someone who had more VoiceOver 
> experience. He had me shut down and restart normally, then sent me the 
> ability to screen share by using my apple ID, which made the screen sharing 
> like an application, which enabled me to go to adwaremedic.com 
> , download adware medic, and run it.
> This problem appears to be resolved, but I wanted you all to be aware of this 
> incident, as well as to inquire: Isn’t there a way to use VoiceOver in safe 
> mode?
> Thank you . . . and be careful out there. I was told people have been known 
> to give their credit card numbers to these people thinking they are getting 
> their computers fixed.
> Christine
> 
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Adware warning!

[Christine Grassman]

I want you all to know about something I just experienced.
I was on Twitter within Safari and a “critical service warning” popped up, 
informing me that a malicious virus had been detected and had attacked my 
system, and that “we have shut down all of your critical systems to protect any 
further damage.” The warning went on to give this number:
888 553-4193
and directed me to give a number starting with Mac and ending with several 
digits.
My BS detector was on full alert. 
I called Apple and told them what was going on. I was informed that this occurs 
several times a day at least, and that it usually involves adware.
When a screen sharing session link was sent, Safari could not find the server, 
nor could Google Chrome. 
I was then told to open the MacBook in safe mode, and I thought I could use 
VoiceOver in safe mode, but it would not come on, and command F5 would not 
bring it up.
The tech support rep handed me over to someone who had more VoiceOver 
experience. He had me shut down and restart normally, then sent me the ability 
to screen share by using my apple ID, which made the screen sharing like an 
application, which enabled me to go to adwaremedic.com 
, download adware medic, and run it.
This problem appears to be resolved, but I wanted you all to be aware of this 
incident, as well as to inquire: Isn’t there a way to use VoiceOver in safe 
mode?
Thank you . . . and be careful out there. I was told people have been known to 
give their credit card numbers to these people thinking they are getting their 
computers fixed.
Christine

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Re: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!

[Eileen]

HI   
HiHi Myrna,

Ohto to to You were so lucky to have a chance to try the VO feature. I went to 
the store a day after they were released. I didn't purchase yet, but was very 
tempted as a early birthday gift to myself. It's a big one this year, so I 
thought I would do it in grand style. I decided to wait for some feedback from 
other blind folks on how well accessibility works before placing an order. 
Well!!! Now I will need to wait until the summertime when they'll be more 
available. Anyways, I hope you make the right choice for yourself, "To Buy Or 
Not To Buy..." 

Best,
Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 23, 2015, at 2:20 PM, Myrna Votta  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Today, I visited the Apple Store on West 14th Street, in New York City.  I 
> really don’t know why I was so lucky, perhaps just picked the right store, 
> because when I told the sales person there that I knew that I wasn’t going to 
> be able to experience  Voiceover, she said that she was almost positive that 
> the store did have one accessible Apple watch so that blind visitors could 
> try Voiceover.  She had her colleague look for it and it was found.  
> Therefore, I had the opportunity to play with Voiceover and interact with the 
> screen.  I also had siri open the settings app for me.  The watch was the 
> 42mm sports model and I would say that the speaker sound level was like most 
> of the talking watches all of us have used.   The atmosphere in the store, as 
> in most of the Apple stores, of course, was noisy, so it was a bit difficult 
> to hear.  However, in a less noisy environment, I think that it will be fine. 
>  I did have the chance to try the 38mm model, which I liked even better than 
> the larger watch, which really isn’t that much larger.  The sales woman said 
> that she liked the look of it on my wrist better than the 42mm watch.  I did 
> try the band that comes with the sports model, the melanise band and the 
> leather loop band.  Although the sales woman and my friend really liked the 
> leather loop, I didn’t  I did, however, like the melanise band because it 
> felt like a mesh bracelet and it was very light.  I loved the design of the 
> watch and the feel of the glass.  Now, For me  “to order or not to order, 
> that is the question."
> 
> 
> Myrna
> 
>> On Apr 22, 2015, at 5:24 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>> I'd like to know if a Braille display will work with the watch.  I'm going 
>> to try it when I get mine.
>> 
>> I thought the 42 Millimetre was heavy because of the stainless steal and the 
>> Safire Diamond.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> On 22 Apr 2015, at 14:56, Mika Pyyhkala  wrote:
>> 
>> I am still struggling with whether to get the 38mm or 42mm sport
>> model; so I have both sizes on order.  But I want to cancel one.
>> 
>> I tried both sizes on and didn't notice a huge difference in feel.
>> Some have said the 42mm will have slightly better battery life.
>> 
>> I think it depends on what kinds of gestures and input one will need
>> to do on the watch.  If having to actually type on the watch, it may
>> be better to have the 42mm.
>> 
>> Anyone have ideas on pros and cons of the 38mm or 42mm size?
>> 
>> I think the watch will be helpful for notifications.  It will be
>> easier to access the notifications on your rist rather than having to
>> take the iPhone out of your pocket, etc.
>> 
>> I also think pass book and boarding passes and hotel keys eventually
>> will be a cool function of the watch so again as not to have to take
>> your iPhone out.
>> 
>> It will also be handy to keep track of the ETA of an Uber or Lyft
>> without again having to take my iPhone out of my pocket or constantly
>> be holding on to my iPhone in order to check on the ETA information.
>> 
>> I've never been extraordinarily concerned about VoiceOver talking in
>> the background if its kept at a low volume.  I use ear buds on the
>> plane, but otherwise usually just use the built in speaker to the
>> iPhone.  Perhaps there will be a way to mute the watch say if you are
>> in an important meeting.
>> 
>> One commentary I read really made sense.  It said that the Apple watch
>> is good for someone who is constantly on their iPhone, and constantly
>> handling notifications.  It will make it easier to process these
>> notifications.  I often find that when I take my iPhone out, I have 10
>> or 20 pending notifications.
>> 
>> The round knob on the watch is the digital crown.  You can use it to
>> scroll through different functions and applications.
>> 
>> The square button will bring up contacts and also bring up Apple pay.
>> 
>> Both the digital crown (knob) and square button are on the same side
>> of the watch.
>> 
>> I also saw the abbreviated demo where you couldn't really do much in
>> the store.  David Woodbridge also posted a positive review using
>> VoiceOver.
>> 
>> I also look forward to the heart beat monitoring, and like that it
>> will be in one device rather than also say having to get a Fitbit.
>> 
>> Best,
>> M

Re: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!

[Jonathan Mosen]

Hi Myrna and others. I saw a very handy tip posted to Twitter indicating that 
you can take any of the Apple Watch models they have in store, and tell Siri to 
turn VoiceOver on.
Cool that you got to play with it fully VO-enabled.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
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> On 24/04/2015, at 9:20 am, Myrna Votta  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Today, I visited the Apple Store on West 14th Street, in New York City.  I 
> really don’t know why I was so lucky, perhaps just picked the right store, 
> because when I told the sales person there that I knew that I wasn’t going to 
> be able to experience  Voiceover, she said that she was almost positive that 
> the store did have one accessible Apple watch so that blind visitors could 
> try Voiceover.  She had her colleague look for it and it was found.  
> Therefore, I had the opportunity to play with Voiceover and interact with the 
> screen.  I also had siri open the settings app for me.  The watch was the 
> 42mm sports model and I would say that the speaker sound level was like most 
> of the talking watches all of us have used.   The atmosphere in the store, as 
> in most of the Apple stores, of course, was noisy, so it was a bit difficult 
> to hear.  However, in a less noisy environment, I think that it will be fine. 
>  I did have the chance to try the 38mm model, which I liked even better than 
> the larger watch, which really isn’t that much larger.  The sales woman said 
> that she liked the look of it on my wrist better than the 42mm watch.  I did 
> try the band that comes with the sports model, the melanise band and the 
> leather loop band.  Although the sales woman and my friend really liked the 
> leather loop, I didn’t  I did, however, like the melanise band because it 
> felt like a mesh bracelet and it was very light.  I loved the design of the 
> watch and the feel of the glass.  Now, For me  “to order or not to order, 
> that is the question."
> 
> 
> Myrna
> 
>> On Apr 22, 2015, at 5:24 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>> I'd like to know if a Braille display will work with the watch.  I'm going 
>> to try it when I get mine.
>> 
>> I thought the 42 Millimetre was heavy because of the stainless steal and the 
>> Safire Diamond.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> On 22 Apr 2015, at 14:56, Mika Pyyhkala  wrote:
>> 
>> I am still struggling with whether to get the 38mm or 42mm sport
>> model; so I have both sizes on order.  But I want to cancel one.
>> 
>> I tried both sizes on and didn't notice a huge difference in feel.
>> Some have said the 42mm will have slightly better battery life.
>> 
>> I think it depends on what kinds of gestures and input one will need
>> to do on the watch.  If having to actually type on the watch, it may
>> be better to have the 42mm.
>> 
>> Anyone have ideas on pros and cons of the 38mm or 42mm size?
>> 
>> I think the watch will be helpful for notifications.  It will be
>> easier to access the notifications on your rist rather than having to
>> take the iPhone out of your pocket, etc.
>> 
>> I also think pass book and boarding passes and hotel keys eventually
>> will be a cool function of the watch so again as not to have to take
>> your iPhone out.
>> 
>> It will also be handy to keep track of the ETA of an Uber or Lyft
>> without again having to take my iPhone out of my pocket or constantly
>> be holding on to my iPhone in order to check on the ETA information.
>> 
>> I've never been extraordinarily concerned about VoiceOver talking in
>> the background if its kept at a low volume.  I use ear buds on the
>> plane, but otherwise usually just use the built in speaker to the
>> iPhone.  Perhaps there will be a way to mute the watch say if you are
>> in an important meeting.
>> 
>> One commentary I read really made sense.  It said that the Apple watch
>> is good for someone who is constantly on their iPhone, and constantly
>> handling notifications.  It will make it easier to process these
>> notifications.  I often find that when I take my iPhone out, I have 10
>> or 20 pending notifications.
>> 
>> The round knob on the watch is the digital crown.  You can use it to
>> scroll through different functions and applications.
>> 
>> The square button will bring up contacts and also bring up Apple pay.
>> 
>> Both the digital crown (knob) and square button are on the same side
>> of the watch.
>> 
>> I also saw the abbreviated demo where you couldn't really do much in
>> the store.  David Woodbridge also posted a positive review using
>> VoiceOver.
>> 
>> I also look forward to the heart beat monitoring, and like that it
>> will be in one device rather than also say having to get a Fitbit.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Mika
>> @pyyhkala
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 4/19/15, Cheree Heppe  wrote:
>>> Cheree Heppe here:
>>> 
>>> With all that has been posted and written, I finally stopped by our
>>> city's Apple store to check out the two sizes of Apple watches.
>>> 
>>> The Apple store has installed a table f

Re: Wow!!!! apple watch is on its way.

[Sagar]

hello all!
May I just ask? whats the apple watch subject doing here?
cause this is a mac mailing list.
 mac and apple watch are to different products.
this has nothing to do with the mac.

thanks.


sincerely,
Sagar,
Sent using OS X

> On 24 Apr 2015, at 5:09 am, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> Yes. I too have received notice that my two watches will be arriving 
> tomorrow, despite one of them previously being marked for much later. Makes a 
> nice change, that—I was way too late to preorder the iPhone 6 Plus. Guess the 
> secret is: get in early.
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Re: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!

[Myrna Votta]

Hi,

Today, I visited the Apple Store on West 14th Street, in New York City.  I 
really don’t know why I was so lucky, perhaps just picked the right store, 
because when I told the sales person there that I knew that I wasn’t going to 
be able to experience  Voiceover, she said that she was almost positive that 
the store did have one accessible Apple watch so that blind visitors could try 
Voiceover.  She had her colleague look for it and it was found.  Therefore, I 
had the opportunity to play with Voiceover and interact with the screen.  I 
also had siri open the settings app for me.  The watch was the 42mm sports 
model and I would say that the speaker sound level was like most of the talking 
watches all of us have used.   The atmosphere in the store, as in most of the 
Apple stores, of course, was noisy, so it was a bit difficult to hear.  
However, in a less noisy environment, I think that it will be fine.  I did have 
the chance to try the 38mm model, which I liked even better than the larger 
watch, which really isn’t that much larger.  The sales woman said that she 
liked the look of it on my wrist better than the 42mm watch.  I did try the 
band that comes with the sports model, the melanise band and the leather loop 
band.  Although the sales woman and my friend really liked the leather loop, I 
didn’t  I did, however, like the melanise band because it felt like a mesh 
bracelet and it was very light.  I loved the design of the watch and the feel 
of the glass.  Now, For me  “to order or not to order, that is the question."
  

Myrna

> On Apr 22, 2015, at 5:24 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> I'd like to know if a Braille display will work with the watch.  I'm going to 
> try it when I get mine.
> 
> I thought the 42 Millimetre was heavy because of the stainless steal and the 
> Safire Diamond.
> 
> Kawal.
> On 22 Apr 2015, at 14:56, Mika Pyyhkala  wrote:
> 
> I am still struggling with whether to get the 38mm or 42mm sport
> model; so I have both sizes on order.  But I want to cancel one.
> 
> I tried both sizes on and didn't notice a huge difference in feel.
> Some have said the 42mm will have slightly better battery life.
> 
> I think it depends on what kinds of gestures and input one will need
> to do on the watch.  If having to actually type on the watch, it may
> be better to have the 42mm.
> 
> Anyone have ideas on pros and cons of the 38mm or 42mm size?
> 
> I think the watch will be helpful for notifications.  It will be
> easier to access the notifications on your rist rather than having to
> take the iPhone out of your pocket, etc.
> 
> I also think pass book and boarding passes and hotel keys eventually
> will be a cool function of the watch so again as not to have to take
> your iPhone out.
> 
> It will also be handy to keep track of the ETA of an Uber or Lyft
> without again having to take my iPhone out of my pocket or constantly
> be holding on to my iPhone in order to check on the ETA information.
> 
> I've never been extraordinarily concerned about VoiceOver talking in
> the background if its kept at a low volume.  I use ear buds on the
> plane, but otherwise usually just use the built in speaker to the
> iPhone.  Perhaps there will be a way to mute the watch say if you are
> in an important meeting.
> 
> One commentary I read really made sense.  It said that the Apple watch
> is good for someone who is constantly on their iPhone, and constantly
> handling notifications.  It will make it easier to process these
> notifications.  I often find that when I take my iPhone out, I have 10
> or 20 pending notifications.
> 
> The round knob on the watch is the digital crown.  You can use it to
> scroll through different functions and applications.
> 
> The square button will bring up contacts and also bring up Apple pay.
> 
> Both the digital crown (knob) and square button are on the same side
> of the watch.
> 
> I also saw the abbreviated demo where you couldn't really do much in
> the store.  David Woodbridge also posted a positive review using
> VoiceOver.
> 
> I also look forward to the heart beat monitoring, and like that it
> will be in one device rather than also say having to get a Fitbit.
> 
> Best,
> Mika
> @pyyhkala
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 4/19/15, Cheree Heppe  wrote:
>> Cheree Heppe here:
>> 
>> With all that has been posted and written, I finally stopped by our
>> city's Apple store to check out the two sizes of Apple watches.
>> 
>> The Apple store has installed a table for displaying the various band
>> types and the two watch sizes.  There are demo watches kept in a drawer
>> built into the table.  There is a trick way of opening the drawer.
>> 
>> Some people wrote about various elements of the watch and bands.
>> 
>> Leather bands.  The bands I saw looked exactly like high end leather
>> bands.  I have owned high end leather goods.  The sides and surfaces are
>> finished in much the same ways.  I have done leather and harness
>> crafting and know the rudiments, so, I don'

Re: Wow!!!! apple watch is on its way.

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Yes. I too have received notice that my two watches will be arriving tomorrow, 
despite one of them previously being marked for much later. Makes a nice 
change, that—I was way too late to preorder the iPhone 6 Plus. Guess the secret 
is: get in early.

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Re: office preview for mac, Reading by Word??

[Andrew Lamanche]

Hi Anne,

Yes, I can see what you mean.  It seems that in Word, Voiceover reports the 
word in front of the cursor rather than the word which the cursor has just 
passed when you move forward through the text with option+arrow key.  However, 
when you move through the words backwards, Voiceover will report the words that 
the cursor has just passed.  I wonder whether it has something to do with the 
way some screen readers on Windows work, like for instance Jaws.  This is going 
to take some getting used to.

Andrew
> On 22 Apr 2015, at 21:59, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Editing in Word is Weird. When I do Option-Right Arrow, then just Right Arrow 
> alone, it reads each letter of the word I just thought I’d jumped over. Also, 
> Option-Left Arrow apparently takes me to the left of the word before the one 
> I thought I’d jumped over.
> 
> I also have insertion point issues, but not consistently. Several times, I’ve 
> pasted text only to find it’s in the wrong place.
> 
> As I said in a previous message, I haven’t used Word since Word 5, so I don’t 
> know how many of the oddities are standard behaviour for Word.
> 
> Also, the spell check almost works, but VO doesn’t read the word in question! 
> And has anyone figured out how to change the font? I opened a blank document 
> and the font was set to Calibri and although I found the combo box, the menu 
> showed me nothing.
> 
> I haven’t reported anything yet as I’m still feeling my way around it. I 
> tried to insert a table, but the command was dimmed, and although I had words 
> in my document, the word count said zero. This was strange because when I was 
> working on my translation, the word count etc worked fine.
> 
> Also, when I worked on my translation, Word said it was in Compatibility mode 
> but I couldn’t discover where this was set.
> 
> Sorry for the ramble.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On 22 Apr 2015, at 22:31, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>> 
>> This seems to be an issue at the end of the line.  It's been reported by 
>> other users on this list.  I have tried this and I can reproduce this 
>> problem  At the end of the line the word reads twice when you land on it and 
>> when you vo+arrow to the next line.  It makes me feel quite insecure in the 
>> sense that I don't know which line I'm in.  Sometimes i have to go back a 
>> word and forward again to make sure I've read the wrod word right.
>> 
>> I've reported it via the "feedback" option in Word itself but maybe if you 
>> have the number or e-mail for microsoft office accessibility it would 
>> certainly be worth reporting.  We must continue the pressure on microsoft 
>> since its release of a promising product.
>> 
>> Andrew
>>> On 22 Apr 2015, at 18:44, 'Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> In the latest Office Preview for Mac, I cannot get Option Right Arrow to 
>>> read word by word.
>>> Option Left Arrow does seem to be reading prior words.
>>> I'm just wondering if this is specific to my system or has anyone tried 
>>> this out?
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
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Re: question about RSS readers

[Jonathan Mosen]

Hi Juliette? I presume it has a website? You'll need to go to its website and 
find the import option, then upload the OPML file.
Jonathan Mosen
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> On 23/04/2015, at 12:09 pm, Juliette Swiler  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> I saved an OPML file to my Mac that I exported from REadKit’s built-in RSS 
> reader. I want to import it into Feed Rangler. How do I do this?
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Wow!!!! apple watch is on its way.

[Donna Goodin]

Well, I was told it would be shipped in June, but I just received the shipment 
notice and it's scheduled to arrive tomorrow!!!
Cheers,
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Re: Toggle Bluetooth Script

[Barry Hadder]

Ok, then that must be it.
UI scripting is definitely less reliable, but but without any programatic 
interface there isn’t any other way to do certain things.

I’m able to tell which button is which be getting the result of every button of 
front window.  I was able to tell that button 6 on my system is the minimize 
from the result of properties of button 6 of front window.
This is all in the second tell block.

It appears that this script will break whenever you upgrade your system.  I 
have a suggestion that I believe is more reliable.

tell application "System Events" to tell process "System Preferences"
set theButtons to every button of front window
repeat with theButton in theButtons
if (name of theButton is "Turn Bluetooth On" or name of 
theButton is "Turn Bluetooth Off") then
exit repeat
end if
end repeat

click theButton
beep 3
end tell

Of course, if they ever change the title of the button, then this will break as 
well.  But, they haven’t ever changed it to my knowledge.

Thanks for replying.  I really wanted to know more about what was going on and 
that helped a lot.  This is a good lesson on the pitfalls of UI scripting.


On Apr 23, 2015, at 11:03 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:

No, I’m still in Mavericks.  Out of curiosity, how do you know the number of 
the buttons?

Thanks,
Traci

On Apr 23, 2015, at 7:12 AM, Barry Hadder mailto:bhad...@gmail.com>> wrote:

> Hi Traci,
> 
> On my system, button 6 of that window is the minimize button.  I would really 
> like to understand why it seems to be different on your’s.
> Are you using Yosemite?
> Thanks.
> 
> On Apr 22, 2015, at 11:17 PM, Traci Duncan  > wrote:
> 
> I ended up putting beep3 after the line:  click button 6 of window 1
> 
> It is working like a charm.  I think the only thing I would add to improve 
> it, is make it similar to my toggle wifi script.  Where Alex actually says, 
> wifi on/wifi off.
> 
> The 3 beeps work for now.  :)
> 
> Thanks y’all!
> 
> On Apr 22, 2015, at 9:14 AM, Barry Hadder  > wrote:
> 
>> I would put the beep 3 right after the click.
>> If you don’t have a slight delay, then it might not work.
>> 
>> Are you trying to toggal bluetooth on and off?  If so, I think there may be 
>> a problem.  You might want to change button 6 to button 3.
>> 
>> On Apr 22, 2015, at 10:22 AM, Traci Duncan > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all, I’ve needed to update my toggle bluetooth script & thankfully I 
>> found one on the web.  My question is, in the below script, where would I 
>> add in a sound effect?  Beep 3, something like that.
>> tell application "System Preferences"
>>  reveal pane "com.apple.preferences.Bluetooth"
>> end tell
>> tell application "System Events" to tell process "System Preferences"
>>  click button 6 of window 1
>> end tell
>> quit application "System Preferences"
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Traci
>> 
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Re: office preview for mac, Reading by Word??

[Maurice Mines]

Good morning list, in response to this I can’t get Microsoft Word preview for 
the Mac to work at all. Should I be just uninstalling it until this program 
actually does something other than take up space on my hard drive? Because so 
far I do the program and the Microsoft Office preview as a whole is completely 
inaccessible which is about par for the course with this particular kind of 
software. Unless someone can prove to me, and/or show me that this is a viable 
product for anyone who is totally blind using the Mac in the future. Any 
thoughts?

Sincerely Maurice mines.
message number 505-369-3283.
Note the text of this email that I have written, has been updated by using 
Dragon 4.0 for the Mac. If there are any errors in the text of this message, 
they are the result of either the software or the detention dictation process.
> On Apr 23, 2015, at 7:30 AM, Krister Ekstrom  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> A thought i got, isn’t there a setting in Voiceover where you make the cursor 
> behave like it does in Windows rather than how it behaves on the Mac? What if 
> you made an activity where you turned this behaviour on or if it’s on turn it 
> off?
> /Krister
> 
>> 22 apr 2015 kl. 22:59 skrev Anne Robertson :
>> 
>> Editing in Word is Weird. When I do Option-Right Arrow, then just Right 
>> Arrow alone, it reads each letter of the word I just thought I’d jumped 
>> over. Also, Option-Left Arrow apparently takes me to the left of the word 
>> before the one I thought I’d jumped over.
>> 
>> I also have insertion point issues, but not consistently. Several times, 
>> I’ve pasted text only to find it’s in the wrong place.
>> 
>> As I said in a previous message, I haven’t used Word since Word 5, so I 
>> don’t know how many of the oddities are standard behaviour for Word.
>> 
>> Also, the spell check almost works, but VO doesn’t read the word in 
>> question! And has anyone figured out how to change the font? I opened a 
>> blank document and the font was set to Calibri and although I found the 
>> combo box, the menu showed me nothing.
>> 
>> I haven’t reported anything yet as I’m still feeling my way around it. I 
>> tried to insert a table, but the command was dimmed, and although I had 
>> words in my document, the word count said zero. This was strange because 
>> when I was working on my translation, the word count etc worked fine.
>> 
>> Also, when I worked on my translation, Word said it was in Compatibility 
>> mode but I couldn’t discover where this was set.
>> 
>> Sorry for the ramble.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>>> On 22 Apr 2015, at 22:31, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>>> 
>>> This seems to be an issue at the end of the line.  It's been reported by 
>>> other users on this list.  I have tried this and I can reproduce this 
>>> problem  At the end of the line the word reads twice when you land on it 
>>> and when you vo+arrow to the next line.  It makes me feel quite insecure in 
>>> the sense that I don't know which line I'm in.  Sometimes i have to go back 
>>> a word and forward again to make sure I've read the wrod word right.
>>> 
>>> I've reported it via the "feedback" option in Word itself but maybe if you 
>>> have the number or e-mail for microsoft office accessibility it would 
>>> certainly be worth reporting.  We must continue the pressure on microsoft 
>>> since its release of a promising product.
>>> 
>>> Andrew
 On 22 Apr 2015, at 18:44, 'Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 Hello,
 In the latest Office Preview for Mac, I cannot get Option Right Arrow to 
 read word by word.
 Option Left Arrow does seem to be reading prior words.
 I'm just wondering if this is specific to my system or has anyone tried 
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Re: Toggle Bluetooth Script

[Alex Hall]

For the record, this is exactly why I avoid GUI scripts. A UI redesign I never 
notice suddenly has a script clicking things it was never meant to click. Plus, 
I hate to have things open if I don't have to have them open.

As to speaking, if you already have Talking Dashboard, have a look in the 
Utilities script. There is a speak handler you can copy for use in your own 
scripts, just be sure to include the credit to Apple at the top, and the 
isVoiceOverRunning handler that the speak handler needs.
> On Apr 23, 2015, at 12:03 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
> No, I’m still in Mavericks.  Out of curiosity, how do you know the number of 
> the buttons?
> 
> Thanks,
> Traci
> 
> On Apr 23, 2015, at 7:12 AM, Barry Hadder  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi Traci,
>> 
>> On my system, button 6 of that window is the minimize button.  I would 
>> really like to understand why it seems to be different on your’s.
>> Are you using Yosemite?
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> On Apr 22, 2015, at 11:17 PM, Traci Duncan > > wrote:
>> 
>> I ended up putting beep3 after the line: click button 6 of window 1
>> 
>> It is working like a charm.  I think the only thing I would add to improve 
>> it, is make it similar to my toggle wifi script.  Where Alex actually says, 
>> wifi on/wifi off.
>> 
>> The 3 beeps work for now.  :)
>> 
>> Thanks y’all!
>> 
>> On Apr 22, 2015, at 9:14 AM, Barry Hadder > > wrote:
>> 
>>> I would put the beep 3 right after the click.
>>> If you don’t have a slight delay, then it might not work.
>>> 
>>> Are you trying to toggal bluetooth on and off?  If so, I think there may be 
>>> a problem.  You might want to change button 6 to button 3.
>>> 
>>> On Apr 22, 2015, at 10:22 AM, Traci Duncan >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all, I’ve needed to update my toggle bluetooth script & thankfully I 
>>> found one on the web.  My question is, in the below script, where would I 
>>> add in a sound effect?  Beep 3, something like that.
>>> tell application "System Preferences"
>>> reveal pane "com.apple.preferences.Bluetooth"
>>> end tell
>>> tell application "System Events" to tell process "System Preferences"
>>> click button 6 of window 1
>>> end tell
>>> quit application "System Preferences"
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Traci
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Re: Toggle Bluetooth Script

[Traci Duncan]

No, I’m still in Mavericks.  Out of curiosity, how do you know the number of 
the buttons?

Thanks,
Traci

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> Hi Traci,
> 
> On my system, button 6 of that window is the minimize button.  I would really 
> like to understand why it seems to be different on your’s.
> Are you using Yosemite?
> Thanks.
> 
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> 
> I ended up putting beep3 after the line:  click button 6 of window 1
> 
> It is working like a charm.  I think the only thing I would add to improve 
> it, is make it similar to my toggle wifi script.  Where Alex actually says, 
> wifi on/wifi off.
> 
> The 3 beeps work for now.  :)
> 
> Thanks y’all!
> 
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> 
>> I would put the beep 3 right after the click.
>> If you don’t have a slight delay, then it might not work.
>> 
>> Are you trying to toggal bluetooth on and off?  If so, I think there may be 
>> a problem.  You might want to change button 6 to button 3.
>> 
>> On Apr 22, 2015, at 10:22 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all, I’ve needed to update my toggle bluetooth script & thankfully I 
>> found one on the web.  My question is, in the below script, where would I 
>> add in a sound effect?  Beep 3, something like that.
>> tell application "System Preferences"
>>  reveal pane "com.apple.preferences.Bluetooth"
>> end tell
>> tell application "System Events" to tell process "System Preferences"
>>  click button 6 of window 1
>> end tell
>> quit application "System Preferences"
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Traci
>> 
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Re: Help creating resume on pages

[Anne Robertson]

On page 2, in English, the placeholder text says Education and training, so 
that’s where you put your education information.

Cheers,

Anne


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> on the curriculum vitae, i dont se where i can insert my scholastics

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Re: need a way to very pitch on recording and uncertain where to turn now

[Ray Foret Jr]

But, can that feature actually bend the pitch?  The pitch on the recording is 
verible and thus the pitch needs to actually very with the recording.  Can 
Amadeus Pro do that?  Not to the best of my knowledge.  I'm not talking here 
about merely changing the pitch.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray

Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!

Sent from my Mac,
the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in

> On Apr 23, 2015, at 7:41 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> Ray, I use the pitch and speech change unit in Amadeus Pro all the time. It 
> works fine for me. Don't give up on it because it works really well. I use it 
> to change the key and the BPM speed of various guitar rhythm tracks that I 
> use.
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
> On Apr 23, 2015, at 5:49 AM, Ray Foret Jr  > wrote:
> 
>> Okay,
>> 
>> Just how to say this I do not exactly know.  I bought Sound Forge Pro for 
>> the Mac, and, I am having the case of discovering that much of what I 
>> thought I had, I don't in fact have.  Yes, some major accessibility issues 
>> have been address:  for example, one can now manipulate regions and markers 
>> and one can use presets also.  While I am happy about this, and while the 6 
>> band paragraphic mastering equalizer is a mighty big plus, I find myself 
>> dissapointed at the noise reduction and click and pop supression.  Yes, they 
>> work, but, the Algarythms which Izotope has chosen to license for Sound 
>> Forge fall very short of what I quire.  The algarythms used in RX 2 are so 
>> much better:  so, I keep and use those instead.  RX three is impossible and 
>> won't even open.  Asside from all that, what I'm looking for is a way to 
>> take the pitch of a recording and bend it veriably either up or down.  So 
>> far, the Apple provided AU pitch controls seem not to be having any effect 
>> at all.  Amadeus Pro, as good as it truly is, cannot make this happen:  at 
>> least, I have yet to find a way to do it.  So, anybody out there able to 
>> recommend a good AU (audio unit) plug in that will allow verible pitch?  I'd 
>> rather not go with audasity on this.  Thanks.
>> 
>> Sorry for the rant, but, I'm sort of at a loss here.
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> 
>> Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
>> 
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Re: Mail drop in OS X Yosemite.

[Sadam Ahmed]

Hello,

Thanks for sending through the info regarding Mail Drop.

It's a great feature of Yosemite that's proving to be useful when 
sending large attachments to my teachers.


Again thanks the  the clarification.

All the best,

Sadam Ahmed

On 16/04/2015 04:46, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:

MailDrop works fine.  The attachments menu will show the attachment just as 
though it were part of the message.  You don’t need to do anything special to 
send.  For the benefit of other email clients, the body of the message is 
updated to include a fragment of text, one per attachment, with the clickable 
link.  This also makes MailDrop a nice way to temporarily host something; send 
an email to yourself, copy the link, and share it.  The file expires in a 
month.  MailDrop is only activated when the SMTP server announces a SIZE 
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Re: Toggle Bluetooth Script

[Barry Hadder]

Hi Traci,

On my system, button 6 of that window is the minimize button.  I would really 
like to understand why it seems to be different on your’s.
Are you using Yosemite?
Thanks.

On Apr 22, 2015, at 11:17 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:

I ended up putting beep3 after the line:click button 6 of window 1

It is working like a charm.  I think the only thing I would add to improve it, 
is make it similar to my toggle wifi script.  Where Alex actually says, wifi 
on/wifi off.

The 3 beeps work for now.  :)

Thanks y’all!

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> I would put the beep 3 right after the click.
> If you don’t have a slight delay, then it might not work.
> 
> Are you trying to toggal bluetooth on and off?  If so, I think there may be a 
> problem.  You might want to change button 6 to button 3.
> 
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> 
> Hi all, I’ve needed to update my toggle bluetooth script & thankfully I found 
> one on the web.  My question is, in the below script, where would I add in a 
> sound effect?  Beep 3, something like that.
> tell application "System Preferences"
>   reveal pane "com.apple.preferences.Bluetooth"
> end tell
> tell application "System Events" to tell process "System Preferences"
>   click button 6 of window 1
> end tell
> quit application "System Preferences"
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Re: doing a paper in pages, my experience

[Barry Hadder]

Hi Anne,

Thanks for the tip.

A couple of things I feel worth mentioning about office are that firstly, Word 
doesn’t reopen windows after quitting when you uncheck the box in system 
preferences like it is supposed to do.  And secondly, they have overridden some 
basic OS X keystrokes in the document area such as control-a.
Office just made a giant leap forward, so a lot of these things  could be 
cleared up by the final release and it would be healthy to have another option 
for such things on the Mac.
That being said, I think that iWork are very good office apps and if they would 
just take the time to beaf them up a little bit, they would be great.   
Unfortunately, they appear to be more interested in gold watches than their OS 
X software at the moment.

On Apr 23, 2015, at 1:24 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:

Hello Barry,

Although in Pages images won’t overflow text, they will fall off the edge of 
the page! It’s always important to check the X and Y coordinates and the size 
of the image.

The current version of Word is lacking in many ways. I feel as though I’m 
wading through mud when using it, whereas in Pages, I’m swimming through clear 
water.

Of course, I’m unfamiliar with Word and know Pages very well, which probably 
makes a difference, but there are so many things I don’t like about Office in 
general, such as Cmd-w not closing Preferences and combo boxes not working. 
Neither can I read straight through a document sentence by sentence. I have to 
stop interacting with one page and interact with the next to carry on.

The only real plus is that it talks to Contacts, which the new Pages still 
doesn’t do – unless there’s some way of scripting this.

Cheers,

Anne


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> I had to use Word 97 in a technical writing class at it was a complete 
> nightmare.  Things have definitely come  a long way from where they were.  
> With Pages, it would have been a breez.
> 
> As far as I know, images or other objects will not overlap text.  You can set 
> them to move with text, or to have text flow around them in the arrange pain 
> of the formatter.  And, just incase you weren’t aware, you can interact with 
> an image in the layout area and resize it with it’s handles.
> 
> It’s worth noting that from what I’ve been able to tell, you can’t do any of 
> this in the current Word 2016 preview with Voiceover.
> 
> On Apr 21, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
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> Hi all. This might be a rather lengthy email, so I hope you don’t mind 
> reading a longer piece than you’re used to getting, lol.
> So our class was given the task of creating a sort of project of anatomy. We 
> were to make a cover page, a table of contents, and make a description and 
> add pictures of systems of the body. Each system had to be on its own page. 
> That seemed easy, and it turned out to be. I started up pages, created the 
> document, and started to work. I first made the cover page, with my name and 
> the title on it. Then, after searching through the menus, I found “page 
> break, command+enter.” So I pressed command enter. Nothing. (the enter key 
> beside the apostrophe, that is.) I tried it several times, then I went to the 
> keyboard help, voiceover k. I tried the enter on the numbed, and it said 
> “enter.” So, I tried that and it worked. I suppose fn+command+return would do 
> it on the macbook. Anyways, the new page was inserted and I went through the 
> menu bar and found the way to create a table of contents. When it was 
> created, I for some reason was able to move it, but didn’t mess with that. So 
> I started on the systems, saving images to the downloads folder, copying and 
> pasting them into pages at the position where I wanted them, moving to the 
> point where the error ding was heard, then leaving them alone. I was the only 
> blind person that was able to find and add images to the project on my own. 
> The other two used Windows, and had to ask for help. I set the titles of each 
> page to headings, and just saved as a Word file, had it printed, and there it 
> is. All in all, I was very happy with the accessibility pages offered, but do 
> wish moving images was a little more understandable. I’d rather know if the 
> image overlaps text or not than some obscure coordinates.
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Re: Help creating resume on pages

[Dionipher Presas Herrera]

on the curriculum vitae, i dont se where i can insert my scholastics
> On 23 Apr 2015, at 1:28 pm, Anne Robertson  wrote:
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> Hello,
> 
> When using one of the templates provided in Pages, there’s a problem with 
> placeholder text. What you have to do to be able to navigate using the arrow 
> keys is to press Return followed by Cmd-z. After that, you won’t start moving 
> the element around.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On 23 Apr 2015, at 13:03, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
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>>  Hello to all, i would like to ask somebody to help me create my resumé 
>> since this is my first time to create this on pages and my first to create 
>> since i've been blind. 
>> When i got to the templates, i use the curriculum vitaé to get started, but 
>> the problem was when i tried going back forth to the edit text i get thee 
>> sound like the box were moving. can somebody help me please.
>> thanks
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Re: An odd problem with Amadeus Pro

[Jamie Pauls]

That works. Just glad to know it wasn't something I had inadvertently changed. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 23, 2015, at 7:50 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> That sounds vaguely familiar to me. That sort of thing used to happen when I 
> first started using Amadeus, and I quickly realized the best procedure is to 
> use the P Kee to set markers. You can always re-name and manipulate your 
> markers in the markers window. I avoid using the M and ship them keys 
> entirely. You can set Mark is with P either on the fly or when playback has 
> stopped, And that's all the markers functionality I need. As I said you can 
> rename markers or delete them etc. in the markers window if need be.
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
>> On Apr 22, 2015, at 10:56 PM, Jamie Pauls  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello, all,
>> 
>> Over the last few days, I have encountered a persistent problem with Amadeus 
>> Pro. When I use shift-M to set a mark without naming it, my Macbook Pro 
>> bonks at me and no mark is set. When I use the M key to set a mark that can 
>> be named, the mark is set but I am not given the opportunity to name the 
>> mark. In essence, the M key does what shift-m should do, and shift-m does 
>> nothing. Does anyone have any ideas as to why this has just started 
>> happening? I am working with projects saved in the Amadeus Pro format. 
>> Thanks for any suggestions.
>> 
>> Take care and have a great day.
>> Jamie Pauls
>> jamiepa...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
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Re: office preview for mac, Reading by Word??

[Krister Ekstrom]

Hello,
A thought i got, isn’t there a setting in Voiceover where you make the cursor 
behave like it does in Windows rather than how it behaves on the Mac? What if 
you made an activity where you turned this behaviour on or if it’s on turn it 
off?
/Krister

> 22 apr 2015 kl. 22:59 skrev Anne Robertson :
> 
> Editing in Word is Weird. When I do Option-Right Arrow, then just Right Arrow 
> alone, it reads each letter of the word I just thought I’d jumped over. Also, 
> Option-Left Arrow apparently takes me to the left of the word before the one 
> I thought I’d jumped over.
> 
> I also have insertion point issues, but not consistently. Several times, I’ve 
> pasted text only to find it’s in the wrong place.
> 
> As I said in a previous message, I haven’t used Word since Word 5, so I don’t 
> know how many of the oddities are standard behaviour for Word.
> 
> Also, the spell check almost works, but VO doesn’t read the word in question! 
> And has anyone figured out how to change the font? I opened a blank document 
> and the font was set to Calibri and although I found the combo box, the menu 
> showed me nothing.
> 
> I haven’t reported anything yet as I’m still feeling my way around it. I 
> tried to insert a table, but the command was dimmed, and although I had words 
> in my document, the word count said zero. This was strange because when I was 
> working on my translation, the word count etc worked fine.
> 
> Also, when I worked on my translation, Word said it was in Compatibility mode 
> but I couldn’t discover where this was set.
> 
> Sorry for the ramble.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On 22 Apr 2015, at 22:31, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>> 
>> This seems to be an issue at the end of the line.  It's been reported by 
>> other users on this list.  I have tried this and I can reproduce this 
>> problem  At the end of the line the word reads twice when you land on it and 
>> when you vo+arrow to the next line.  It makes me feel quite insecure in the 
>> sense that I don't know which line I'm in.  Sometimes i have to go back a 
>> word and forward again to make sure I've read the wrod word right.
>> 
>> I've reported it via the "feedback" option in Word itself but maybe if you 
>> have the number or e-mail for microsoft office accessibility it would 
>> certainly be worth reporting.  We must continue the pressure on microsoft 
>> since its release of a promising product.
>> 
>> Andrew
>>> On 22 Apr 2015, at 18:44, 'Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> In the latest Office Preview for Mac, I cannot get Option Right Arrow to 
>>> read word by word.
>>> Option Left Arrow does seem to be reading prior words.
>>> I'm just wondering if this is specific to my system or has anyone tried 
>>> this out?
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
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Re: Clean installation of Yosemite stalled

[Rachel Feinberg]

There's a command you can paste into terminal and assuming you have the OS 
installer,it does the rest.

> On Apr 23, 2015, at 6:04 AM, Kliph  wrote:
> 
> What program did you use to create a bootible drive?
> 
> Sent from my MobileOffice
> 
>> On Apr 22, 2015, at 5:52 PM, Rachel Feinberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> I appreciate this information so much! I did what one person from here 
>> suggested, held down the option key as the computer was booting, played the 
>> “let’s guess which drive the Mac will boot from” game, and landed on my 
>> bootable drive! I waited a bit, started Voiceover, and it did allow me to 
>> install Yosemite.
>> Added to that, the restoration  from a Time machine backup, and things seem 
>> to be working nicely!
>> Thank you again for all your help and advice. One thing I did read is you 
>> can press C when the Mac boots up to force it to start from any external 
>> bootable media. That would’ve been my next plan if the option and right 
>> arrow course of action hadn’t of worked.
>> Rachel. 
>>> On Apr 22, 2015, at 12:25 PM, Erik Heil  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> Do you wireless information is stored within NV RAM. As such, if you have 
>>> previously entered security of mission for wireless networks, it is 
>>> automatically entered. It will automatically connect to a wireless network 
>>> if it has previously associated it with your iCloud account. For more 
>>> information, if you view the deed it with a and B RAM, you'll see network 
>>> he's related to the wireless networks if you have any. Of course, this 
>>> information is encrypted, but like I said before, it is see with them in 
>>> the room. If you actually were to clear and we ramp settings, 
>>> disinformation would not be available, and as such, some system values 
>>> which are stored within and be ram will be restored to their factory 
>>> defaults.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Apr 22, 2015, at 1:59 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
 
 Yes, it does use the Internet to connect to Apple’s servers.  Info on this 
 is found here...
 
 https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT201314
 
 I haven’t tried it, but, I’m guessing that the initial place where you 
 need to select a wireless network probably isn’t accessible since there’s 
 been no real base System to load VO from.  If you live in a place where 
 there’s no other WiFi networks visible, then you should be able to enter 
 your WiFi password and move on.  If there are many WiFi networks close by, 
 this may be difficult without sighted assistance.  I guess a person could 
 arrow down once, press return then enter your WiFi password, then wait 
 five or so minutes to see if the base System is downloaded to your 
 machine, then move on if that doesn’t work by trying two down arrows and 
 so on.  This could take you quite a while and be very frustrating, but it 
 may be your only option if you don’t have access to sighted assistance.
 
 Sorry.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Apr 22, 2015, at 11:48, Rachel Feinberg  wrote:
 
 Hi Tim,
 
 thanks for this tip! In trying it I haven't had luck so far, however, just 
 wondering if this contacts Apple's servers, does this require internet 
 connectivity? And if nothing is installed, it'd make connecting difficult. 
 If, in fact, that's what's needed.
> On 4/22/2015 10:37 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Yes, you likely have affected the Recovery Partition.  Try starting with 
> cmd-option-r which should start up from Apple’s servers.  It may take a 
> little longer to boot up, but you should be able to install from there.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Apr 22, 2015, at 11:30, Rachel Feinberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> A quick question on clean installing OS X. I wanted to clean install 
> before putting Yosemite on my Macbook Air. I made a bootable drive, 
> booted into the recovery partition by holding down command+R then 
> pressing command+F5 until Voiceover started up and I could format the 
> Macintosh HD. I clicked on the size, (128 GB Apple SSD), and chose to 
> erase it. Could it be possible that I've inadvertently erased the 
> recovery partition?
> As I then went back to the utilities table, chose to re-install OS X, 
> which turned out to be Mavericks. As I didn't wish to install this 
> version, I shut down the computer, restarted it and attempted to get back 
> into recovery mode, but no dice this time. I'm unable to get VO to start, 
> and even accessing the boot menyu with the option key and pressing right 
> arrow once or twice and pressing enter to boot from the external media is 
> a no-go.
> I've read several archives from this list that say to wait different 
> amounts of time before at

Re: is it okay to delete the lost+found folder on my mac?

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

You could try identifying the file type.  Copy the file in Finder, open 
Terminal, type “file” followed by a space, and then paste.  Press RETURN.  File 
will try to identify the file type, which may give you a hint as to what it was 
before it lost its name.

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Re: Clean installation of Yosemite stalled

[Kliph]

What program did you use to create a bootible drive?

Sent from my MobileOffice

> On Apr 22, 2015, at 5:52 PM, Rachel Feinberg  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> I appreciate this information so much! I did what one person from here 
> suggested, held down the option key as the computer was booting, played the 
> “let’s guess which drive the Mac will boot from” game, and landed on my 
> bootable drive! I waited a bit, started Voiceover, and it did allow me to 
> install Yosemite.
> Added to that, the restoration  from a Time machine backup, and things seem 
> to be working nicely!
> Thank you again for all your help and advice. One thing I did read is you can 
> press C when the Mac boots up to force it to start from any external bootable 
> media. That would’ve been my next plan if the option and right arrow course 
> of action hadn’t of worked.
> Rachel. 
>> On Apr 22, 2015, at 12:25 PM, Erik Heil  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> Do you wireless information is stored within NV RAM. As such, if you have 
>> previously entered security of mission for wireless networks, it is 
>> automatically entered. It will automatically connect to a wireless network 
>> if it has previously associated it with your iCloud account. For more 
>> information, if you view the deed it with a and B RAM, you'll see network 
>> he's related to the wireless networks if you have any. Of course, this 
>> information is encrypted, but like I said before, it is see with them in the 
>> room. If you actually were to clear and we ramp settings, disinformation 
>> would not be available, and as such, some system values which are stored 
>> within and be ram will be restored to their factory defaults.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 22, 2015, at 1:59 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, it does use the Internet to connect to Apple’s servers.  Info on this 
>>> is found here...
>>> 
>>> https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT201314
>>> 
>>> I haven’t tried it, but, I’m guessing that the initial place where you need 
>>> to select a wireless network probably isn’t accessible since there’s been 
>>> no real base System to load VO from.  If you live in a place where there’s 
>>> no other WiFi networks visible, then you should be able to enter your WiFi 
>>> password and move on.  If there are many WiFi networks close by, this may 
>>> be difficult without sighted assistance.  I guess a person could arrow down 
>>> once, press return then enter your WiFi password, then wait five or so 
>>> minutes to see if the base System is downloaded to your machine, then move 
>>> on if that doesn’t work by trying two down arrows and so on.  This could 
>>> take you quite a while and be very frustrating, but it may be your only 
>>> option if you don’t have access to sighted assistance.
>>> 
>>> Sorry.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Apr 22, 2015, at 11:48, Rachel Feinberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Tim,
>>> 
>>> thanks for this tip! In trying it I haven't had luck so far, however, just 
>>> wondering if this contacts Apple's servers, does this require internet 
>>> connectivity? And if nothing is installed, it'd make connecting difficult. 
>>> If, in fact, that's what's needed.
 On 4/22/2015 10:37 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Yes, you likely have affected the Recovery Partition.  Try starting with 
 cmd-option-r which should start up from Apple’s servers.  It may take a 
 little longer to boot up, but you should be able to install from there.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Apr 22, 2015, at 11:30, Rachel Feinberg  wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 A quick question on clean installing OS X. I wanted to clean install 
 before putting Yosemite on my Macbook Air. I made a bootable drive, booted 
 into the recovery partition by holding down command+R then pressing 
 command+F5 until Voiceover started up and I could format the Macintosh HD. 
 I clicked on the size, (128 GB Apple SSD), and chose to erase it. Could it 
 be possible that I've inadvertently erased the recovery partition?
 As I then went back to the utilities table, chose to re-install OS X, 
 which turned out to be Mavericks. As I didn't wish to install this 
 version, I shut down the computer, restarted it and attempted to get back 
 into recovery mode, but no dice this time. I'm unable to get VO to start, 
 and even accessing the boot menyu with the option key and pressing right 
 arrow once or twice and pressing enter to boot from the external media is 
 a no-go.
 I've read several archives from this list that say to wait different 
 amounts of time before attempting to start Voiceover in the recovery 
 partition, and none have worked. I understand this partition is hidden, 
 but I wonder if by clicking on, and erasing the size of the drive, instead 
 of the Macintosh HD partition, I've slipped out of the grasp 

Re: An odd problem with Amadeus Pro

[Phil Halton]

That sounds vaguely familiar to me. That sort of thing used to happen when I 
first started using Amadeus, and I quickly realized the best procedure is to 
use the P Kee to set markers. You can always re-name and manipulate your 
markers in the markers window. I avoid using the M and ship them keys entirely. 
You can set Mark is with P either on the fly or when playback has stopped, And 
that's all the markers functionality I need. As I said you can rename markers 
or delete them etc. in the markers window if need be.

Sent from my IPhone


> On Apr 22, 2015, at 10:56 PM, Jamie Pauls  wrote:
> 
> Hello, all,
> 
> Over the last few days, I have encountered a persistent problem with Amadeus 
> Pro. When I use shift-M to set a mark without naming it, my Macbook Pro bonks 
> at me and no mark is set. When I use the M key to set a mark that can be 
> named, the mark is set but I am not given the opportunity to name the mark. 
> In essence, the M key does what shift-m should do, and shift-m does nothing. 
> Does anyone have any ideas as to why this has just started happening? I am 
> working with projects saved in the Amadeus Pro format. Thanks for any 
> suggestions.
> 
> Take care and have a great day.
> Jamie Pauls
> jamiepa...@gmail.com
> 
> 
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Re: need a way to very pitch on recording and uncertain where to turn now

[Phil Halton]

Ray, I use the pitch and speech change unit in Amadeus Pro all the time. It 
works fine for me. Don't give up on it because it works really well. I use it 
to change the key and the BPM speed of various guitar rhythm tracks that I use.

Sent from my IPhone


> On Apr 23, 2015, at 5:49 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
> Okay,
> 
> Just how to say this I do not exactly know.  I bought Sound Forge Pro for the 
> Mac, and, I am having the case of discovering that much of what I thought I 
> had, I don't in fact have.  Yes, some major accessibility issues have been 
> address:  for example, one can now manipulate regions and markers and one can 
> use presets also.  While I am happy about this, and while the 6 band 
> paragraphic mastering equalizer is a mighty big plus, I find myself 
> dissapointed at the noise reduction and click and pop supression.  Yes, they 
> work, but, the Algarythms which Izotope has chosen to license for Sound Forge 
> fall very short of what I quire.  The algarythms used in RX 2 are so much 
> better:  so, I keep and use those instead.  RX three is impossible and won't 
> even open.  Asside from all that, what I'm looking for is a way to take the 
> pitch of a recording and bend it veriably either up or down.  So far, the 
> Apple provided AU pitch controls seem not to be having any effect at all.  
> Amadeus Pro, as good as it truly is, cannot make this happen:  at least, I 
> have yet to find a way to do it.  So, anybody out there able to recommend a 
> good AU (audio unit) plug in that will allow verible pitch?  I'd rather not 
> go with audasity on this.  Thanks.
> 
> Sorry for the rant, but, I'm sort of at a loss here.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> 
> Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
> 
> Sent from my Mac,
> the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
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Re: doing a paper in pages, my experience

[Anne Robertson]

Hello,

You know the size of your page and its margins, so you know the size of the 
available space. It’s a case of simple arithmetic. Just make sure that you’re 
using either inches or centimetres and not points.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 23 Apr 2015, at 13:36, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
> How can you check the x and y coords of the page as compared with the image? 

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Re: doing a paper in pages, my experience

[Devin Prater]

How can you check the x and y coords of the page as compared with the image? 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 23, 2015, at 1:51 AM, 'Gabriele Battaglia' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Anne.
> As the most experienced user I've read from, I'd like to ask you.
> How would you assign a virtual accessibility percentage between Pages and MS 
> Word? Something like: 50 50, would mean the same amount of accessibility and 
> usability.
> Obviously we are pretending to be an user at your skill level.
> Gabriel.
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Re: doing a paper in pages, my experience

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Gabriel,

I’m not familiar enough with Word to rate it honestly. However, Pages is 95% 
accessible and, in my opinion, easy to use.

Of course, the accessible version of Office is still in beta so you would 
expect problems.

Cheers,

Anne


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> Hi Anne.
> As the most experienced user I've read from, I'd like to ask you.
> How would you assign a virtual accessibility percentage between Pages and MS 
> Word? Something like: 50 50, would mean the same amount of accessibility and 
> usability.
> Obviously we are pretending to be an user at your skill level.
> Gabriel.
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Re: Help creating resume on pages

[Anne Robertson]

Hello,

When using one of the templates provided in Pages, there’s a problem with 
placeholder text. What you have to do to be able to navigate using the arrow 
keys is to press Return followed by Cmd-z. After that, you won’t start moving 
the element around.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 23 Apr 2015, at 13:03, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
> wrote:
> 
>   Hello to all, i would like to ask somebody to help me create my resumé 
> since this is my first time to create this on pages and my first to create 
> since i've been blind. 
> When i got to the templates, i use the curriculum vitaé to get started, but 
> the problem was when i tried going back forth to the edit text i get thee 
> sound like the box were moving. can somebody help me please.
> thanks
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Help creating resume on pages

[Dionipher Presas Herrera]

Hello to all, i would like to ask somebody to help me create my resumé 
since this is my first time to create this on pages and my first to create 
since i've been blind. 
When i got to the templates, i use the curriculum vitaé to get started, but the 
problem was when i tried going back forth to the edit text i get thee sound 
like the box were moving. can somebody help me please.
thanks

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Mail has crashed

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi.  When I open the mail on my Mac, it seems that all my accounts are gone. I 
was just closing mail and then  restarted  my Mac. No I don't have any accounts 
when opening mailIs it possible to get things back properly 

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need a way to very pitch on recording and uncertain where to turn now

[Ray Foret Jr]

Okay,

Just how to say this I do not exactly know.  I bought Sound Forge Pro for the 
Mac, and, I am having the case of discovering that much of what I thought I 
had, I don't in fact have.  Yes, some major accessibility issues have been 
address:  for example, one can now manipulate regions and markers and one can 
use presets also.  While I am happy about this, and while the 6 band 
paragraphic mastering equalizer is a mighty big plus, I find myself 
dissapointed at the noise reduction and click and pop supression.  Yes, they 
work, but, the Algarythms which Izotope has chosen to license for Sound Forge 
fall very short of what I quire.  The algarythms used in RX 2 are so much 
better:  so, I keep and use those instead.  RX three is impossible and won't 
even open.  Asside from all that, what I'm looking for is a way to take the 
pitch of a recording and bend it veriably either up or down.  So far, the Apple 
provided AU pitch controls seem not to be having any effect at all.  Amadeus 
Pro, as good as it truly is, cannot make this happen:  at least, I have yet to 
find a way to do it.  So, anybody out there able to recommend a good AU (audio 
unit) plug in that will allow verible pitch?  I'd rather not go with audasity 
on this.  Thanks.

Sorry for the rant, but, I'm sort of at a loss here.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray

Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!

Sent from my Mac,
the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in

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Re: is it okay to delete the lost+found folder on my mac?

[Dionipher Presas Herrera]

it has this file on it 

iNode7113831
> On 23 Apr 2015, at 7:24 am, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> That is data recovered by the file system check process.  Look inside the 
> folder first, and if it’s empty, throw it away; otherwise you may be looking 
> at data that is recovered but for which the file names may not be available.  
> What you do next depends on your willingness to investigate further.
> 
> As usual, you should be backing up on a regular basis.  And as usual, try to 
> avoid unplanned shutdowns (always shut down from the Apple menu).
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