Re: Sources for Embossers

[E.T.]

   Thanks John, good to know. Easy web site to browse too.

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 They are probably one of the best from my experience. I’ve always had 
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On Jan 7, 2016, at 6:34 PM, E.T.  wrote:

   I am looking around at embossers and find BraillerDepot.com. Are there other 
sources that offer competitive prices? I realize that prices in general for AT 
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Re: Converting youtube to mp3 on the mac.

[Dionipher Presas Herrera]

copy the youtube link here the convert then download.
http://www.youtube-mp3.org/it   
> On 07 Jan 2016, at 5:22 PM, Stacey Robinson  wrote:
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> Is there a free accessible program where I can convert youtube videos to mp3 
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> Any help is greatly appreciated.
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Re: Sources for Embossers

[John Panarese]

They are probably one of the best from my experience. I’ve always had great 
luck with them.


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> On Jan 7, 2016, at 6:34 PM, E.T.  wrote:
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>   I am looking around at embossers and find BraillerDepot.com. Are there 
> other sources that offer competitive prices? I realize that prices in general 
> for AT products are high. Still is worth shopping around.
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Re: Converting youtube to mp3 on the mac.

[Stacey Robinson]

Thanks Vaughn,
This should work great.
 - Original Message -
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, January 7, 2016 12:37 pm
Subject: Re: Converting youtube to mp3 on the mac.

>
>
> Here is a web site I use all of the time.
> 
> http://www.youtube-mp3.org/
> 
> Hope this helps.
> Vaughn
> 
> On 1/7/16, E.T.  wrote:
> > VidConvert. $3.99. So easy even a baby could run this app. This app
> > will convert to most any video format and audio as well.
> >
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> >> mp3 files on the mac?
> >> Any help is greatly appreciated.
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Sources for Embossers

[E.T.]

   I am looking around at embossers and find BraillerDepot.com. Are 
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Re: Self-Muting Watch

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

I’m fairly sure I always took my hand off as soon as I heard the locking click. 
 I’ll try harder to remove my hand sooner.  Thanks for the suggestion.

And no, for the record, I did not physically assault my watch.  Just clapped it 
lightly with my palm.  There’s no risk to the screen.

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Re: Converting youtube to mp3 on the mac.

[E.T.]

   VidConvert. $3.99. So easy even a baby could run this app. This app 
will convert to most any video format and audio as well.


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On 1/7/2016 8:22 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote:

Is there a free accessible program where I can convert youtube videos to
mp3 files on the mac?
Any help is greatly appreciated.

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mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net

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Confused about bootcamp drivers for windows7 installation on mac

[Andrew Lamanche]

Hi,

When installing Windows 7 in bootcamp from ISO, is it necessary to manually get 
the appropriate Apple drivers for windows, or will Bootcamp get them 
automatically and install them?

I've been poring through help pages and I can see confusing info.  

Many thanks

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Question about Learning Alley L A Book Manager

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Guys,

I just renewed my Learning Alley membership, as I've not been current now for 
quite some time, probably since 2011.  A lot seems to have changed since then.

I see that they have a mac version of the Learning alley Book Manager.  I know 
it's not necessary for downloading books, but if I want to play them on my mac, 
I'll need it, no doubt, being the books are incrypted.

After installing the book manager, and launching it, I get a message saying I 
need to go into System Preferences, and then tab down to the checkbox to enable 
access for assistive devices within Universal Access.  Well, obviously, there 
is no such thing in El Capitan as Universal Access.  Yeah, under System prefs, 
there is the accessibility payne, but even under there, none of the categories 
within the table give you the option to allow access to assistive devices.  I 
definitely do see 3 buttons in that message given by the Book Manager.  I have 
an option to continue anyway, to quit, or of corse, to open System Prefs, which 
does absolutely no good in this case.

If I elect to continue anyway, then I'm given to items on the  screen of which 
both just say unknown, and interacting with them does entirely nothing.  I 
can't even access About window to tell you all what version of the manager is 
running.  Again, I just get two unknowns.  I don't honestly even think the 
About window is even popping up, period.

Yes, this is the most recent version of the software.  It has to be, as I just 
downloaded it from the Learning Alley web site this morning.

Suffice it to say, if L A can't get their crap together more than this, I'm 
probably gonna cancel my membership.  When I called their support, they were 
incredibly unhelpful.  They told me they had no user guide for the mac client, 
which I later after looking myself found out wasn't true.  The pdf for the 
guide however is only images, with no text.  Therefore, I'd have to find a way 
to O C R the blasted thing.

When I called and asked to speak to someone who was in tech support that could 
help me with the mac side of things, they not only said they were doing away 
with the mac software eventually, but that they had no one on staff at all 
either in office or not who knew Voiceover, and for that mind, not only this, 
but they'd never even heard of Voiceover and didn't even know it existed.  
Finally, after some research, the lady I spoke with came back on the line and 
goes, OK, sir.  You're running OSX 10.5 Leopard, right?  I'm like, uh... Not? 
freaking, hardly!  Try El Capitan 10.11.2!  She's like, oh, I didn't realize 
they'd come out with something so much newer.

Needless to say, I'm not even slightly! impressed.

I'd be incredibly curious if anyone of you all have gotten the manager to work, 
and if not, then how the hell are you playing your books on the mac, or do you 
simply not.  Yeah, I have both my IPhone, and my Nexus 6, and both on the Apple 
side of things with Voiceover, as well as on the Android side with Talkback, 
things in both cases seem to work quite well, but it would be nice to not 
always have to rely on a mobile device just to listen to things.  Ya know?  
Yeah, I also do have my Bard Enhanced NLS player, but again, I might not always 
want to rely on that thing.

Suggestions, aside from the obvious of screaming at the top of my lungs?

Chris.

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Re: Self-Muting Watch

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Well, I mean, if you're trying to silence just Voiceover, then two finger 
single tap.


You won't mute it as long as you place your hand over the watch, but then 
immediately take it away from the watch.  Just don't leave your hand there 
over the top of the thing.  Put it there, wait for the click, then 
immediately move your hand out of the way.


Chris.

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To: "'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries" 
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 2:14 AM
Subject: Re: Self-Muting Watch


Mmm! Oh dear. Well, that’s no good then.  Do you know how one simply shuts 
the watch up without globally muting it, if not by simply slapping it?


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Re: Self-Muting Watch

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Have you been putting your hand over the face of the watch a fair amount? 
If you do so, and don't move your hand right away, after leaving it there 
for a few seconds, your watch will go to mute until you turn mute back off.


Chris.

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To: "'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries" 
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 12:39 AM
Subject: Self-Muting Watch


That’s the second time now that I’ve looked in the Settings glance on my 
Apple Watch and found that, by some means or other, the Mute switch is on, 
without my doing anything to set it.


Anybody have the reasons?

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Re: Self-Muting Watch

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

For one thing, no need to slap it.  Just be gentle.  Secondly, yeah, if you 
put your hand over the thing, you won't mute it as long as you move your 
hand away as soon as you hear the little click telling you it locked.  Just 
don't leave your hand over the thing.  that's the main trick.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Scott Granados" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: Self-Muting Watch


You’re a bit off, if you hold your hand flat over the face or cover the face 
for 3 seconds or more it mutes the watch.  Sounds stop but VO persists so 
you can reenable.  If you slap the watch and hold to long you’ll enable 
mute.


On Jan 6, 2016, at 10:19 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  
wrote:


Yep.  I often slap the watch to shut it up, and it works.  However I’m 
fairly sure that is only intended to silence the watch, not enable the 
muting of sounds permanently.  I hope I’m not wrong about that.


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Re: Converting youtube to mp3 on the mac.

[Vaughn Brown]

Here is a web site I use all of the time.

http://www.youtube-mp3.org/

Hope this helps.
Vaughn

On 1/7/16, E.T.  wrote:
> VidConvert. $3.99. So easy even a baby could run this app. This app
> will convert to most any video format and audio as well.
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Re: Braille embossers supported by OS X

[E.T.]

Kawal,
   Thanks so much for this. I too could not find the information, This 
is becoming more interesting as I am stonewalled trying to connect the 
old embosser with CUPS.


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On 1/7/2016 1:37 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

Found the details and are below.



At a Glance

Basic-D is a success story. The best-selling braille embosser in the
world is easy-to-use and easy-to-like, using fan-folded paper to produce
double-sided braille.

  * 100 characters/second - fastest embosser in its price range!
  * High-quality interpoint Braille
  * Braille labeled and speech guided, multilingual user interface
  * Horizontal and vertical printing
  * Tractor-fed paper - the most reliable paper feeding method


This is Basic-D V4

Basic-D V4 is a small, powerful, portable Braille printer. Its
extraordinary performance and competitive price has made Basic-D the
most sought after Braille printer in the world. It uses fan-folded paper
which is the most commonly used paper style for Braille embossers.
Basic-D is stable and capable of continuous Braille embossing.


Double-sided high quality Braille

Interpoint Braille - double-sided Braille printing on both sides of the
paper - is an Index Braille trademark. Basic-D V4 produces double-sided
Braille in which achieves all Braille reading demands, in addition to
Braille international standards. The Braille dots are easy to read and
do not wear with age so expect endless top-of-the-line quality Braille.
This reliable dot forming technology found in the Basic-D is
environmentally friendly and green approved and is sure to save you
money comparably.


Easy user interface

User Interface. Basic-D V4 is complete with an easy-to-follow user
interface equipped with on-board speech interface guidance. The
preferred spoken language may be selected from the front control panel
of the embosser. You may also find additional languages download able
from the Index Braille website; visit downloads. Your preferred language
not available? Contact us.


Meaningful features

Basic-D V4 is complete with valuable features; printable in single and
double-sided Braille, horizontal and vertical printing options and sharp
tactile graphics. Basic-D is supplied with USB, serial and network ports
for easy connectivity, as well as, a service port compatible with an
embedded web interface to maneuver the embosser via internet. Not to
mention that Basic-D V4 has printer drivers to support embossing from
Windows PC and Macs!


Even better embossers

Index V4 Braille embossers are easier to use than ever; with a longer
lifespan, simpler servicing options and much more. Basic V4 is
accommodated with the best Braille technology available, and will
continue to do so in its leading segment, for years to come.


Technical Specification

General

  *   Warranty - 2 years

Braille

  *   Embossing speed cps - 100 cps
  *   Single-sided
  *   Double-sided
  *   Vertical printing (newspaper)
  *   Braille font - 2.2, 2.5, 3.2 mm
  *   Tactile resolution - 50 dpi
  *   Forming method - 13 hammers/anvils

Paper

  * Tractor-fed
  * Sheet feeder size


  *
  o Paper weight - 120-180 g/m2 (80-110 lbs)
  o Paper width - 5-13 in
  o Paper length - 1-17 in
  o Paper formats - Adjustable

Measurements

  * Height - 13 cm (5.12 in)
  * Width - 52 cm (20.47 in)
  * Depth - 26 cm (10.24 in)
  * Net volume - 17.58 dm3 (0.62 ft3)
  * Net weight - 7.6 kg (16.72 lbs)
  * Noise level - 80 dB(A)
  * Noise level with acoustic protection - 60 dB(A)

Communication

  * User interface - Braille and ink labelled panel with multilingual
speech feedback
  * USB
  * Network
  * Serial port
  * Web
  * Firmware upgrade - Via internet always free of charge
  * LED feedback - 3 LED on front panel and 4 on back side
  * Printer drivers - Windows 32/64

Electrical

  * Voltage - 100-240 V AC
  * Power max - 140 W
  * Power stand by - 5 W
  * Eco power down - 0.05 W




On 7 Jan 2016, at 21:25, gkearney > wrote:

I see nothing on that site about Braille at all. Could you provide a
bit more detail?

On Wednesday, 6 January 2016 13:29:48 UTC-8, wal wrote:

There is another Braille embosser which works with the Mac and it
does not use any kind of drivers.  You just plug in your USB port
and it’s ready to print.  More information can be found at
www.siteandsound.co.uk  and they
ship internationally.  I did send a message about it before and
it’s in the archives.

Kawal.

On 4 Jan 2016, at 21:38, E.T.  wrote:

  Well I will at the least do some shopping around. Who makes
interpoint models that will work via Bluetooth?

  Anders mentioned Index. Are there others? Thanks.

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Many 

Re: Question about Learning Alley L A Book Manager

[Karen Lewellen]

why not send the pdf user guide here?
conv...@robobraille.org
they can convert pdf files, even images into a number of other formats.
Karen


On Thu, 7 Jan 2016, Sharon Hooley wrote:


I guess it'll take a lot of people to call the attention to the techies over 
there to keep up with all the devices blind users like to work with.

Sharon H.


On Jan 7, 2016, at 12:20 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:

Guys,

I just renewed my Learning Alley membership, as I've not been current now for 
quite some time, probably since 2011.  A lot seems to have changed since then.

I see that they have a mac version of the Learning alley Book Manager.  I know 
it's not necessary for downloading books, but if I want to play them on my mac, 
I'll need it, no doubt, being the books are incrypted.

After installing the book manager, and launching it, I get a message saying I 
need to go into System Preferences, and then tab down to the checkbox to enable 
access for assistive devices within Universal Access.  Well, obviously, there 
is no such thing in El Capitan as Universal  Access.  Yeah, under System prefs, 
there is the accessibility payne, but even under there, none of the categories 
within the table give you the option to allow access to assistive devices.  I 
definitely do see 3 buttons in that message given by the Book Manager.  I have 
an option to continue anyway, to quit, or of corse, to open System Prefs, which 
does absolutely no good in this case.

If I elect to continue anyway, then I'm given to items on the  screen of which 
both just say unknown, and interacting with them does entirely nothing.  I 
can't even access About window to tell you all what version of the manager is 
running.  Again, I just get two unknowns.  I don't honestly even think the 
About window is even popping up, period.

Yes, this is the most recent version of the software.  It has to be, as I just 
downloaded it from the Learning Alley web site this morning.

Suffice it to say, if L A can't get their crap together more than this, I'm 
probably gonna cancel my membership.  When I called their support, they were 
incredibly unhelpful.  They told me they had no user guide for the mac client, 
which I later after looking myself found out wasn't true.  The pdf for the 
guide however is only images, with no text.  Therefore, I'd have to find a way 
to O C R the blasted thing.

When I called and asked to speak to someone who was in tech support that could 
help me with the mac side of things, they not only said they were doing away 
with the mac software eventually, but that they had no one on staff at all 
either in office or not who knew Voiceover, and for that mind, not only this, 
but they'd never even heard of Voiceover and didn't even know it existed.  
Finally, after some research, the lady I spoke with came back on the line and 
goes, OK, sir.  You're running OSX 10.5 Leopard, right?  I'm like, uh... Not? 
freaking, hardly!  Try El Capitan 10.11.2!  She's like, oh, I didn't realize 
they'd come out with something so much newer.

Needless to say, I'm not even slightly! impressed.

I'd be incredibly curious if anyone of you all have gotten the manager to work, 
and if not, then how the hell are you playing your books on the mac, or do you 
simply not.  Yeah, I have both my IPhone, and my Nexus 6, and both on the Apple 
side of things with Voiceover, as well as on the Android side with Talkback, 
things in both cases seem to work quite well, but it would be nice to not 
always have to rely on a mobile device just to listen to things.  Ya know?  
Yeah, I also do have my Bard Enhanced NLS player, but again, I might not always 
want to rely on that thing.

Suggestions, aside from the obvious of screaming at the top of my lungs?

Chris.
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Re: Braille embossers supported by OS X

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Found the details and are below.

At a Glance 
Basic-D is a success story. The best-selling braille embosser in the world is 
easy-to-use and easy-to-like, using fan-folded paper to produce double-sided 
braille.

100 characters/second - fastest embosser in its price range!
High-quality interpoint Braille
Braille labeled and speech guided, multilingual user interface
Horizontal and vertical printing
Tractor-fed paper - the most reliable paper feeding method
This is Basic-D V4
Basic-D V4 is a small, powerful, portable Braille printer. Its extraordinary 
performance and competitive price has made Basic-D the most sought after 
Braille printer in the world. It uses fan-folded paper which is the most 
commonly used paper style for Braille embossers. Basic-D is stable and capable 
of continuous Braille embossing.

Double-sided high quality Braille
Interpoint Braille - double-sided Braille printing on both sides of the paper - 
is an Index Braille trademark. Basic-D V4 produces double-sided Braille in 
which achieves all Braille reading demands, in addition to Braille 
international standards. The Braille dots are easy to read and do not wear with 
age so expect endless top-of-the-line quality Braille. This reliable dot 
forming technology found in the Basic-D is environmentally friendly and green 
approved and is sure to save you money comparably.

Easy user interface
User Interface. Basic-D V4 is complete with an easy-to-follow user interface 
equipped with on-board speech interface guidance. The preferred spoken language 
may be selected from the front control panel of the embosser. You may also find 
additional languages download able from the Index Braille website; visit 
downloads. Your preferred language not available? Contact us.

Meaningful features
Basic-D V4 is complete with valuable features; printable in single and 
double-sided Braille, horizontal and vertical printing options and sharp 
tactile graphics. Basic-D is supplied with USB, serial and network ports for 
easy connectivity, as well as, a service port compatible with an embedded web 
interface to maneuver the embosser via internet. Not to mention that Basic-D V4 
has printer drivers to support embossing from Windows PC and Macs!

Even better embossers
Index V4 Braille embossers are easier to use than ever; with a longer lifespan, 
simpler servicing options and much more. Basic V4 is accommodated with the best 
Braille technology available, and will continue to do so in its leading 
segment, for years to come.

Technical Specification
 General

 Warranty - 2 years
 Braille

 Embossing speed cps - 100 cps
 Single-sided
 Double-sided
 Vertical printing (newspaper)
 Braille font - 2.2, 2.5, 3.2 mm
 Tactile resolution - 50 dpi
 Forming method - 13 hammers/anvils
Paper

Tractor-fed
Sheet feeder size

  
Paper weight - 120-180 g/m2 (80-110 lbs)
Paper width - 5-13 in
Paper length - 1-17 in
Paper formats - Adjustable
Measurements

Height - 13 cm (5.12 in)
Width - 52 cm (20.47 in)
Depth - 26 cm (10.24 in)
Net volume - 17.58 dm3 (0.62 ft3)
Net weight - 7.6 kg (16.72 lbs)
Noise level - 80 dB(A)
Noise level with acoustic protection - 60 dB(A)
Communication

User interface - Braille and ink labelled panel with multilingual speech 
feedback
USB
Network
Serial port
Web
Firmware upgrade - Via internet always free of charge
LED feedback - 3 LED on front panel and 4 on back side
Printer drivers - Windows 32/64
Electrical

Voltage - 100-240 V AC
Power max - 140 W
Power stand by - 5 W
Eco power down - 0.05 W
 

> On 7 Jan 2016, at 21:25, gkearney  wrote:
> 
> I see nothing on that site about Braille at all. Could you provide a bit more 
> detail?
> 
> On Wednesday, 6 January 2016 13:29:48 UTC-8, wal wrote:
> There is another Braille embosser which works with the Mac and it does not 
> use any kind of drivers.  You just plug in your USB port and it’s ready to 
> print.  More information can be found at www.siteandsound.co.uk 
>  and they ship internationally.  I did send a 
> message about it before and it’s in the archives.
> 
> Kawal.
>> On 4 Jan 2016, at 21:38, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>>   Well I will at the least do some shopping around. Who makes interpoint 
>> models that will work via Bluetooth?
>> 
>>   Anders mentioned Index. Are there others? Thanks.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>   ancient...@icloud.com 
>> Many believe that we have been visited
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Re: Question about Learning Alley L A Book Manager

[Sharon Hooley]

I guess it'll take a lot of people to call the attention to the techies over 
there to keep up with all the devices blind users like to work with.

Sharon H.

> On Jan 7, 2016, at 12:20 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Guys,
>  
> I just renewed my Learning Alley membership, as I've not been current now for 
> quite some time, probably since 2011.  A lot seems to have changed since then.
>  
> I see that they have a mac version of the Learning alley Book Manager.  I 
> know it's not necessary for downloading books, but if I want to play them on 
> my mac, I'll need it, no doubt, being the books are incrypted.
>  
> After installing the book manager, and launching it, I get a message saying I 
> need to go into System Preferences, and then tab down to the checkbox to 
> enable access for assistive devices within Universal Access.  Well, 
> obviously, there is no such thing in El Capitan as Universal  Access.  Yeah, 
> under System prefs, there is the accessibility payne, but even under there, 
> none of the categories within the table give you the option to allow access 
> to assistive devices.  I definitely do see 3 buttons in that message given by 
> the Book Manager.  I have an option to continue anyway, to quit, or of corse, 
> to open System Prefs, which does absolutely no good in this case.
>  
> If I elect to continue anyway, then I'm given to items on the  screen of 
> which both just say unknown, and interacting with them does entirely nothing. 
>  I can't even access About window to tell you all what version of the manager 
> is running.  Again, I just get two unknowns.  I don't honestly even think the 
> About window is even popping up, period.
>  
> Yes, this is the most recent version of the software.  It has to be, as I 
> just downloaded it from the Learning Alley web site this morning.
>  
> Suffice it to say, if L A can't get their crap together more than this, I'm 
> probably gonna cancel my membership.  When I called their support, they were 
> incredibly unhelpful.  They told me they had no user guide for the mac 
> client, which I later after looking myself found out wasn't true.  The pdf 
> for the guide however is only images, with no text.  Therefore, I'd have to 
> find a way to O C R the blasted thing.
>  
> When I called and asked to speak to someone who was in tech support that 
> could help me with the mac side of things, they not only said they were doing 
> away with the mac software eventually, but that they had no one on staff at 
> all either in office or not who knew Voiceover, and for that mind, not only 
> this, but they'd never even heard of Voiceover and didn't even know it 
> existed.  Finally, after some research, the lady I spoke with came back on 
> the line and goes, OK, sir.  You're running OSX 10.5 Leopard, right?  I'm 
> like, uh... Not? freaking, hardly!  Try El Capitan 10.11.2!  She's like, oh, 
> I didn't realize they'd come out with something so much newer.
>  
> Needless to say, I'm not even slightly! impressed.
>  
> I'd be incredibly curious if anyone of you all have gotten the manager to 
> work, and if not, then how the hell are you playing your books on the mac, or 
> do you simply not.  Yeah, I have both my IPhone, and my Nexus 6, and both on 
> the Apple side of things with Voiceover, as well as on the Android side with 
> Talkback, things in both cases seem to work quite well, but it would be nice 
> to not always have to rely on a mobile device just to listen to things.  Ya 
> know?  Yeah, I also do have my Bard Enhanced NLS player, but again, I might 
> not always want to rely on that thing.
>  
> Suggestions, aside from the obvious of screaming at the top of my lungs?
>  
> Chris.
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Re: Braille embossers supported by OS X

[gkearney]

I see nothing on that site about Braille at all. Could you provide a bit 
more detail?

On Wednesday, 6 January 2016 13:29:48 UTC-8, wal wrote:
>
> There is another Braille embosser which works with the Mac and it does not 
> use any kind of drivers.  You just plug in your USB port and it’s ready to 
> print.  More information can be found at www.siteandsound.co.uk and they 
> ship internationally.  I did send a message about it before and it’s in the 
> archives.
>
> Kawal.
>
> On 4 Jan 2016, at 21:38, E.T.  wrote:
>
>   Well I will at the least do some shopping around. Who makes interpoint 
> models that will work via Bluetooth?
>
>   Anders mentioned Index. Are there others? Thanks.
>
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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Re: Question about Learning Alley L A Book Manager

[joseph hudson]

Chris, I'm not sure if I'll be able to but I will definitely give it a try NCE 
if I guy name by the name of Rich Lambert still works the school for the blind 
and see if they have tried using Learning ally on the Mac. He might be able to 
assist you as he is the technologist for a local school for the blind here in 
Texas. As he Is very Mac savvy. I knows about learning ally. Email me, or/call 
me if you are interested.
Joseph Hudson
Email
jhud7...@gmail.com 
I device support
Telephone
2543007667
Skype
joseph.hudson89 facebook
https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 

Twitter
https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 

FaceTime/iMessage
jhud7...@yahoo.com 
> On Jan 7, 2016, at 1:20 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Guys,
>  
> I just renewed my Learning Alley membership, as I've not been current now for 
> quite some time, probably since 2011.  A lot seems to have changed since then.
>  
> I see that they have a mac version of the Learning alley Book Manager.  I 
> know it's not necessary for downloading books, but if I want to play them on 
> my mac, I'll need it, no doubt, being the books are incrypted.
>  
> After installing the book manager, and launching it, I get a message saying I 
> need to go into System Preferences, and then tab down to the checkbox to 
> enable access for assistive devices within Universal Access.  Well, 
> obviously, there is no such thing in El Capitan as Universal Access.  Yeah, 
> under System prefs, there is the accessibility payne, but even under there, 
> none of the categories within the table give you the option to allow access 
> to assistive devices.  I definitely do see 3 buttons in that message given by 
> the Book Manager.  I have an option to continue anyway, to quit, or of corse, 
> to open System Prefs, which does absolutely no good in this case.
>  
> If I elect to continue anyway, then I'm given to items on the  screen of 
> which both just say unknown, and interacting with them does entirely nothing. 
>  I can't even access About window to tell you all what version of the manager 
> is running.  Again, I just get two unknowns.  I don't honestly even think the 
> About window is even popping up, period.
>  
> Yes, this is the most recent version of the software.  It has to be, as I 
> just downloaded it from the Learning Alley web site this morning.
>  
> Suffice it to say, if L A can't get their crap together more than this, I'm 
> probably gonna cancel my membership.  When I called their support, they were 
> incredibly unhelpful.  They told me they had no user guide for the mac 
> client, which I later after looking myself found out wasn't true.  The pdf 
> for the guide however is only images, with no text.  Therefore, I'd have to 
> find a way to O C R the blasted thing.
>  
> When I called and asked to speak to someone who was in tech support that 
> could help me with the mac side of things, they not only said they were doing 
> away with the mac software eventually, but that they had no one on staff at 
> all either in office or not who knew Voiceover, and for that mind, not only 
> this, but they'd never even heard of Voiceover and didn't even know it 
> existed.  Finally, after some research, the lady I spoke with came back on 
> the line and goes, OK, sir.  You're running OSX 10.5 Leopard, right?  I'm 
> like, uh... Not? freaking, hardly!  Try El Capitan 10.11.2!  She's like, oh, 
> I didn't realize they'd come out with something so much newer.
>  
> Needless to say, I'm not even slightly! impressed.
>  
> I'd be incredibly curious if anyone of you all have gotten the manager to 
> work, and if not, then how the hell are you playing your books on the mac, or 
> do you simply not.  Yeah, I have both my IPhone, and my Nexus 6, and both on 
> the Apple side of things with Voiceover, as well as on the Android side with 
> Talkback, things in both cases seem to work quite well, but it would be nice 
> to not always have to rely on a mobile device just to listen to things.  Ya 
> know?  Yeah, I also do have my Bard Enhanced NLS player, but again, I might 
> not always want to rely on that thing.
>  
> Suggestions, aside from the obvious of screaming at the top of my lungs?
>  
> Chris.
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Re: Question about Learning Alley L A Book Manager

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

That's exactly what I did.

The guide mentions nothing though about El Capitan.  The most recent OS it 
references is Leopard.  Go figure.


Chris.
Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Karen Lewellen" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: Question about Learning Alley L A Book Manager



why not send the pdf user guide here?
conv...@robobraille.org
they can convert pdf files, even images into a number of other formats.
Karen


On Thu, 7 Jan 2016, Sharon Hooley wrote:

I guess it'll take a lot of people to call the attention to the techies 
over there to keep up with all the devices blind users like to work with.


Sharon H.

On Jan 7, 2016, at 12:20 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Guys,

I just renewed my Learning Alley membership, as I've not been current 
now for quite some time, probably since 2011.  A lot seems to have 
changed since then.


I see that they have a mac version of the Learning alley Book Manager. 
I know it's not necessary for downloading books, but if I want to play 
them on my mac, I'll need it, no doubt, being the books are incrypted.


After installing the book manager, and launching it, I get a message 
saying I need to go into System Preferences, and then tab down to the 
checkbox to enable access for assistive devices within Universal Access. 
Well, obviously, there is no such thing in El Capitan as Universal 
Access.  Yeah, under System prefs, there is the accessibility payne, but 
even under there, none of the categories within the table give you the 
option to allow access to assistive devices.  I definitely do see 3 
buttons in that message given by the Book Manager.  I have an option to 
continue anyway, to quit, or of corse, to open System Prefs, which does 
absolutely no good in this case.


If I elect to continue anyway, then I'm given to items on the  screen of 
which both just say unknown, and interacting with them does entirely 
nothing.  I can't even access About window to tell you all what version 
of the manager is running.  Again, I just get two unknowns.  I don't 
honestly even think the About window is even popping up, period.


Yes, this is the most recent version of the software.  It has to be, as 
I just downloaded it from the Learning Alley web site this morning.


Suffice it to say, if L A can't get their crap together more than this, 
I'm probably gonna cancel my membership.  When I called their support, 
they were incredibly unhelpful.  They told me they had no user guide for 
the mac client, which I later after looking myself found out wasn't 
true.  The pdf for the guide however is only images, with no text. 
Therefore, I'd have to find a way to O C R the blasted thing.


When I called and asked to speak to someone who was in tech support that 
could help me with the mac side of things, they not only said they were 
doing away with the mac software eventually, but that they had no one on 
staff at all either in office or not who knew Voiceover, and for that 
mind, not only this, but they'd never even heard of Voiceover and didn't 
even know it existed.  Finally, after some research, the lady I spoke 
with came back on the line and goes, OK, sir.  You're running OSX 10.5 
Leopard, right?  I'm like, uh... Not? freaking, hardly!  Try El Capitan 
10.11.2!  She's like, oh, I didn't realize they'd come out with 
something so much newer.


Needless to say, I'm not even slightly! impressed.

I'd be incredibly curious if anyone of you all have gotten the manager 
to work, and if not, then how the hell are you playing your books on the 
mac, or do you simply not.  Yeah, I have both my IPhone, and my Nexus 6, 
and both on the Apple side of things with Voiceover, as well as on the 
Android side with Talkback, things in both cases seem to work quite 
well, but it would be nice to not always have to rely on a mobile device 
just to listen to things.  Ya know?  Yeah, I also do have my Bard 
Enhanced NLS player, but again, I might not always want to rely on that 
thing.


Suggestions, aside from the obvious of screaming at the top of my lungs?

Chris.
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Re: Braille embossers supported by OS X

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Go to www.sightandsound.co.uk and in the search box put Embossers.  I did that. 
 Then the embossers come up.
> On 7 Jan 2016, at 21:50, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> Kawal,
>   Thanks so much for this. I too could not find the information, This is 
> becoming more interesting as I am stonewalled trying to connect the old 
> embosser with CUPS.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 1/7/2016 1:37 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>> Found the details and are below.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>At a Glance
>> 
>> Basic-D is a success story. The best-selling braille embosser in the
>> world is easy-to-use and easy-to-like, using fan-folded paper to produce
>> double-sided braille.
>> 
>>  * 100 characters/second - fastest embosser in its price range!
>>  * High-quality interpoint Braille
>>  * Braille labeled and speech guided, multilingual user interface
>>  * Horizontal and vertical printing
>>  * Tractor-fed paper - the most reliable paper feeding method
>> 
>> 
>>This is Basic-D V4
>> 
>> Basic-D V4 is a small, powerful, portable Braille printer. Its
>> extraordinary performance and competitive price has made Basic-D the
>> most sought after Braille printer in the world. It uses fan-folded paper
>> which is the most commonly used paper style for Braille embossers.
>> Basic-D is stable and capable of continuous Braille embossing.
>> 
>> 
>>Double-sided high quality Braille
>> 
>> Interpoint Braille - double-sided Braille printing on both sides of the
>> paper - is an Index Braille trademark. Basic-D V4 produces double-sided
>> Braille in which achieves all Braille reading demands, in addition to
>> Braille international standards. The Braille dots are easy to read and
>> do not wear with age so expect endless top-of-the-line quality Braille.
>> This reliable dot forming technology found in the Basic-D is
>> environmentally friendly and green approved and is sure to save you
>> money comparably.
>> 
>> 
>>Easy user interface
>> 
>> User Interface. Basic-D V4 is complete with an easy-to-follow user
>> interface equipped with on-board speech interface guidance. The
>> preferred spoken language may be selected from the front control panel
>> of the embosser. You may also find additional languages download able
>> from the Index Braille website; visit downloads. Your preferred language
>> not available? Contact us.
>> 
>> 
>>Meaningful features
>> 
>> Basic-D V4 is complete with valuable features; printable in single and
>> double-sided Braille, horizontal and vertical printing options and sharp
>> tactile graphics. Basic-D is supplied with USB, serial and network ports
>> for easy connectivity, as well as, a service port compatible with an
>> embedded web interface to maneuver the embosser via internet. Not to
>> mention that Basic-D V4 has printer drivers to support embossing from
>> Windows PC and Macs!
>> 
>> 
>>Even better embossers
>> 
>> Index V4 Braille embossers are easier to use than ever; with a longer
>> lifespan, simpler servicing options and much more. Basic V4 is
>> accommodated with the best Braille technology available, and will
>> continue to do so in its leading segment, for years to come.
>> 
>> 
>>Technical Specification
>> 
>> General
>> 
>>  *   Warranty - 2 years
>> 
>> Braille
>> 
>>  *   Embossing speed cps - 100 cps
>>  *   Single-sided
>>  *   Double-sided
>>  *   Vertical printing (newspaper)
>>  *   Braille font - 2.2, 2.5, 3.2 mm
>>  *   Tactile resolution - 50 dpi
>>  *   Forming method - 13 hammers/anvils
>> 
>> Paper
>> 
>>  * Tractor-fed
>>  * Sheet feeder size
>> 
>> 
>>  *
>>  o Paper weight - 120-180 g/m2 (80-110 lbs)
>>  o Paper width - 5-13 in
>>  o Paper length - 1-17 in
>>  o Paper formats - Adjustable
>> 
>> Measurements
>> 
>>  * Height - 13 cm (5.12 in)
>>  * Width - 52 cm (20.47 in)
>>  * Depth - 26 cm (10.24 in)
>>  * Net volume - 17.58 dm3 (0.62 ft3)
>>  * Net weight - 7.6 kg (16.72 lbs)
>>  * Noise level - 80 dB(A)
>>  * Noise level with acoustic protection - 60 dB(A)
>> 
>> Communication
>> 
>>  * User interface - Braille and ink labelled panel with multilingual
>>speech feedback
>>  * USB
>>  * Network
>>  * Serial port
>>  * Web
>>  * Firmware upgrade - Via internet always free of charge
>>  * LED feedback - 3 LED on front panel and 4 on back side
>>  * Printer drivers - Windows 32/64
>> 
>> Electrical
>> 
>>  * Voltage - 100-240 V AC
>>  * Power max - 140 W
>>  * Power stand by - 5 W
>>  * Eco power down - 0.05 W
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 7 Jan 2016, at 21:25, gkearney >> 
>>> >> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I see nothing on that site about Braille at all. Could you provide a
>>> bit more detail?
>>> 
>>> On Wednesday, 6 January 2016 13:29:48 UTC-8, wal wrote:
>>> 
>>>There is another Braille 

Re: Question about Learning Alley L A Book Manager

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Joseph,

I'm not where I can get at a phone to call you right now, but you have my 
number.  Please don't publish it on list, but you're more than welcome to give 
it to that guy.  Permission is granted.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: joseph hudson 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:27 PM
  Subject: Re: Question about Learning Alley L A Book Manager


  Chris, I'm not sure if I'll be able to but I will definitely give it a try 
NCE if I guy name by the name of Rich Lambert still works the school for the 
blind and see if they have tried using Learning ally on the Mac. He might be 
able to assist you as he is the technologist for a local school for the blind 
here in Texas. As he Is very Mac savvy. I knows about learning ally. Email me, 
or/call me if you are interested.

  Joseph Hudson
  Email
  jhud7...@gmail.com
  I device support
  Telephone
  2543007667
  Skype
  joseph.hudson89 facebook
  https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
  Twitter
  https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 


  FaceTime/iMessage
  jhud7...@yahoo.com


On Jan 7, 2016, at 1:20 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Guys,

I just renewed my Learning Alley membership, as I've not been current now 
for quite some time, probably since 2011.  A lot seems to have changed since 
then.

I see that they have a mac version of the Learning alley Book Manager.  I 
know it's not necessary for downloading books, but if I want to play them on my 
mac, I'll need it, no doubt, being the books are incrypted.

After installing the book manager, and launching it, I get a message saying 
I need to go into System Preferences, and then tab down to the checkbox to 
enable access for assistive devices within Universal Access.  Well, obviously, 
there is no such thing in El Capitan as Universal Access.  Yeah, under System 
prefs, there is the accessibility payne, but even under there, none of the 
categories within the table give you the option to allow access to assistive 
devices.  I definitely do see 3 buttons in that message given by the Book 
Manager.  I have an option to continue anyway, to quit, or of corse, to open 
System Prefs, which does absolutely no good in this case.

If I elect to continue anyway, then I'm given to items on the  screen of 
which both just say unknown, and interacting with them does entirely nothing.  
I can't even access About window to tell you all what version of the manager is 
running.  Again, I just get two unknowns.  I don't honestly even think the 
About window is even popping up, period.

Yes, this is the most recent version of the software.  It has to be, as I 
just downloaded it from the Learning Alley web site this morning.

Suffice it to say, if L A can't get their crap together more than this, I'm 
probably gonna cancel my membership.  When I called their support, they were 
incredibly unhelpful.  They told me they had no user guide for the mac client, 
which I later after looking myself found out wasn't true.  The pdf for the 
guide however is only images, with no text.  Therefore, I'd have to find a way 
to O C R the blasted thing.

When I called and asked to speak to someone who was in tech support that 
could help me with the mac side of things, they not only said they were doing 
away with the mac software eventually, but that they had no one on staff at all 
either in office or not who knew Voiceover, and for that mind, not only this, 
but they'd never even heard of Voiceover and didn't even know it existed.  
Finally, after some research, the lady I spoke with came back on the line and 
goes, OK, sir.  You're running OSX 10.5 Leopard, right?  I'm like, uh... Not? 
freaking, hardly!  Try El Capitan 10.11.2!  She's like, oh, I didn't realize 
they'd come out with something so much newer.

Needless to say, I'm not even slightly! impressed.

I'd be incredibly curious if anyone of you all have gotten the manager to 
work, and if not, then how the hell are you playing your books on the mac, or 
do you simply not.  Yeah, I have both my IPhone, and my Nexus 6, and both on 
the Apple side of things with Voiceover, as well as on the Android side with 
Talkback, things in both cases seem to work quite well, but it would be nice to 
not always have to rely on a mobile device just to listen to things.  Ya know?  
Yeah, I also do have my Bard Enhanced NLS player, but again, I might not always 
want to rely on that thing.

Suggestions, aside from the obvious of screaming at the top of my lungs?

Chris.


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Re: Question about Learning Alley L A Book Manager

[joseph hudson]

Okay cool, let me see if I can get a hold of him and I will get back with you.
Joseph Hudson
Email
jhud7...@gmail.com 
I device support
Telephone
2543007667
Skype
joseph.hudson89 facebook
https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 

Twitter
https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 

FaceTime/iMessage
jhud7...@yahoo.com 
> On Jan 7, 2016, at 4:29 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Joseph,
>  
> I'm not where I can get at a phone to call you right now, but you have my 
> number.  Please don't publish it on list, but you're more than welcome to 
> give it to that guy.  Permission is granted.
>  
> Chris.
>  
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: joseph hudson 
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: Question about Learning Alley L A Book Manager
>> 
>> Chris, I'm not sure if I'll be able to but I will definitely give it a try 
>> NCE if I guy name by the name of Rich Lambert still works the school for the 
>> blind and see if they have tried using Learning ally on the Mac. He might be 
>> able to assist you as he is the technologist for a local school for the 
>> blind here in Texas. As he Is very Mac savvy. I knows about learning ally. 
>> Email me, or/call me if you are interested.
>> Joseph Hudson
>> Email
>> jhud7...@gmail.com 
>> I device support
>> Telephone
>> 2543007667
>> Skype
>> joseph.hudson89 facebook
>> https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 
>> 
>> Twitter
>> https://twitter.com/josephhudson89  
>> 
>> FaceTime/iMessage
>> jhud7...@yahoo.com 
>>> On Jan 7, 2016, at 1:20 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Guys,
>>>  
>>> I just renewed my Learning Alley membership, as I've not been current now 
>>> for quite some time, probably since 2011.  A lot seems to have changed 
>>> since then.
>>>  
>>> I see that they have a mac version of the Learning alley Book Manager.  I 
>>> know it's not necessary for downloading books, but if I want to play them 
>>> on my mac, I'll need it, no doubt, being the books are incrypted.
>>>  
>>> After installing the book manager, and launching it, I get a message saying 
>>> I need to go into System Preferences, and then tab down to the checkbox to 
>>> enable access for assistive devices within Universal Access.  Well, 
>>> obviously, there is no such thing in El Capitan as Universal Access.  Yeah, 
>>> under System prefs, there is the accessibility  payne, but even under 
>>> there, none of the categories within the table give you the option to allow 
>>> access to assistive devices.  I definitely do  see 3 buttons in that 
>>> message given by the Book Manager.  I have an option to continue anyway, to 
>>> quit, or of corse, to open System Prefs, which does absolutely no good in 
>>> this case.
>>>  
>>> If I elect to continue anyway, then I'm given to items on the  screen of 
>>> which both just say unknown, and interacting with them does entirely 
>>> nothing.  I can't even access About window to tell you all what version of 
>>> the manager is running.  Again, I just get two unknowns.  I don't honestly 
>>> even think the About window is even popping up, period.
>>>  
>>> Yes, this is the most recent version of the software.  It has to be, as I 
>>> just downloaded it from the Learning Alley web site this morning.
>>>  
>>> Suffice it to say, if L A can't get their crap together more than this, I'm 
>>> probably gonna cancel my membership.  When I called their support, they 
>>> were incredibly unhelpful.  They told me they had no user guide for the mac 
>>> client, which I later after looking myself found out wasn't true.  The pdf 
>>> for the guide however is only images, with no text.  Therefore, I'd have to 
>>> find a way to O C R the blasted thing.
>>>  
>>> When I called and asked to speak to someone who was in tech support that 
>>> could help me with the mac side of things, they not only said they were 
>>> doing away with the mac software eventually, but that they had no one on 
>>> staff at all either in office or not who knew Voiceover, and for that mind, 
>>> not only this, but they'd never even heard of Voiceover and didn't even 
>>> know it existed.  Finally, after some research, the lady I spoke with came 
>>> back on the line and goes, OK, sir.  You're running OSX 10.5 Leopard, 
>>> right?  I'm like, uh... Not? freaking, hardly!  Try El Capitan 10.11.2!  
>>> She's like, oh, I didn't realize they'd come out with something so much 
>>> newer.
>>>  
>>> Needless to say, I'm not even slightly! impressed.
>>>  
>>> I'd be incredibly curious if anyone of you all have gotten the