Re: Universal Keyboard on Sierra

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hello
Am still waiting ur help

Ramy moustafa saber
licturer at:
faculty of musical education
music arranger and sound engineer
Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 16, 2016, at 12:52 AM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> 
> yes
> 
>> On 11/15/16, E.T.  wrote:
>> Remy,
>>Is Bluetooth enabled on both devices and are they within range of
>> each other?
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>   Without H2O there is no life!
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>>> On 11/15/2016 12:13 AM, Ramy Moustafa wrote:
>>> Hello all:
>>> 
>>> I know how can I use the contuity or what it called Hand off, on IOs
>>> and mac, and I can write an email and complete it on my mac.
>>> but  til now I tried using the universal feature but couldn't. I wrote
>>> something on my mac, I hit copy with Command C, then I went to my
>>> Iphone and nothing to paste, of cores they are connected on the same
>>> network, and on the same Icloud id..
>>> so, what shall I do?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> --
>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac
>> Visionaries list.
>> 
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>> 
>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:
>> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you
>> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>> 
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>> ---
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Ramy MoustafaSaber
> Music instructor @:
> Faculty ofmusical education
> Music arranger and Sound engineer @:
> Harmony Recording Studio
> https://www.facebook.com/HarmonyRecordingStudio.eg

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Login Issue

[christopher hallsworth]

Hi

Don't know, but do know single user mode is not accessible because VoiceOver is 
not loaded in this mode. There might be a way in recovery mode to manage a 
locked account. For example in Terminal you can type
resetpassword
press return and you can reset the password for the local account.


> On 18 Nov 2016, at 04:34, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   A friend is unable to login to his Mac after his local Apple store reset 
> it. He thinks they left the user account set up which he cannot log into.
> 
>   While googling, I find articles about Single User Mode. Is this accessible? 
> Or is there anther way he can change that account or create his own? He is 
> new to the Mac so may be willing to sacrifice what he had already done and 
> begin fresh.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Login Issue

[E.T.]

   A friend is unable to login to his Mac after his local Apple store 
reset it. He thinks they left the user account set up which he cannot 
log into.


   While googling, I find articles about Single User Mode. Is this 
accessible? Or is there anther way he can change that account or create 
his own? He is new to the Mac so may be willing to sacrifice what he had 
already done and begin fresh.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.

To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
<>

Re: How does one get to know your e-mail address?

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

Exactly. If it sounds too good to be true, it is too good to be true.

E.T. writes:
> Kawal,
>This is phishing. Its a common ploy to steal one's information. Its also
> how the scumbugs plant their tools in one's computer so they can take it
> hostage and demand a ransom.
> 
>The best defense is simply to be extremely skeptical. And delete these
> emails permanently as soon as you receive it.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 11/17/2016 1:28 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
> > Hi.
> > 
> > This is a bit off topic but I have to ask this question.
> > 
> > I received an e-mail today to my me account as I only use that account for 
> > personal things and you may know I use my alias for stuff like this list.
> > 
> > Well, today I received an e-mail today to my me account, I will put this 
> > e-mail below so you can see what I'm talking about.  Now I think this 
> > e-mail is junk as I am frightened to do what is asked on it although I'm 
> > tempted if it means you get ready cash but I'm scared.
> > 
> > But what I'd like to know, how on earth do people get your e-mail 
> > especially if you do not give it out?  This e-mail is below.  I'd like 
> > someone's opinion for some one to tell me is this junk as It is difficult 
> > to tell.
> > 
> > I hope everyone understands that I only do this kind of thing to get advice 
> > from anyone who is happy to give it to me and as Mark says that this is a 
> > list to share things because we are all in the same boat, Visually impaired 
> > which is not my favourite word as I'm totally blind so my vision can't be 
> > impaired.  So please forgive me for this.
> > 
> > Time sensitive...
> > By using this free method just once, you will need a
> > checking account capable of receiving huge daily deposits.
> > 
> > I already made sure yours is ready here:
> > ==>> Check it out here!
> > 
> > Click inside to activate this so your checking account
> > can receive deposits
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > If you wish to unsubscribed and stop receiving
> > updates, you can unsubscribe here
> > 
> > All Rights Reserved.
> > 
> > I actually saved it to text edit to see if my name was spelt wrong and it 
> > was not so you see my anxiety about this thing.
> > 
> > Kawal.
> > 
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
> Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

> null

-- 

Janina Sajka,   Phone:  +1.443.300.2200
sip:jan...@asterisk.rednote.net
Email:  jan...@rednote.net

Linux Foundation Fellow
Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:   http://a11y.org

The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
Chair, Accessible Platform Architectureshttp://www.w3.org/wai/apa

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Alert! Fake email from Apple

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

You're correct, Scott. Two factor can be annoying, but it's tolerable in
my experience, and can be fully accessible. And, it definitely makes
things more secure.

For the sake of illustration, my Google account is setup for access with
two factor. I put in my account name and press on next. I'm then
presented with a screen prompting for my password. After I click the
login button I'm put in an edit field that's expecting me to type a
code.

I have chosen to get that code via voice phone call. It arrives at the
number I told Google to call within a second or two--very promptly,
always. There's a short disclaimer. I've noticed I've developed the
habit of sipping my coffee while the disclaimer plays. Than a 6 digit
code is read out. I type it in as I hear it, tab once and press enter.
Bingo, I'm in.

If I'm away from my phone and can't take a voice call, I have the option
to ask for alternate delivery of the code, by text message for example.
I sometimes use that approach when I'm in a room with other folks and
don't want to draw attention to myself unnecessarily.

Janina

Scott Granados writes:
> Just to be clear exactly how important this topic is and how careful people 
> should be, this is how the hackers were able to gain access to John Podesta’s 
> email and leak many of Hilary’s email transactions.  They seemed to have 
> gotten other administration folks this way as well.  What this illustrates is 
> how important it is to know where that link is going that you clink on, 
> Janina makes a very strong point.  It also demonstrates the importance of 
> 2factor authentication.  If Mr. Podesta or others in the administration had 
> 2factor enabled the emails would have remained secure most likely.  With 
> 2factor, even if the password is compromised the bad guy can’t get in with 
> out having access to your other devices like your phone.  It’s an extra step 
> that adds a ton of security to your services with out much work.  Be careful 
> out there.
>  
> 
> > On Nov 17, 2016, at 2:44 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Another great, and very reliable way to distinguish the malware from the
> > genuine article is to examine the link they want you to click. If it
> > doesn't end with "apple.com," it's most likely bogus, though Apple does
> > maintain other domains, e.g. icloud.com.
> > 
> > I like to report these kinds of phishing attacks. I keep a short list of
> > specific addresses that major companies who are frequent targets of such
> > attacks have setup for recieving these kinds of reports. I have
> > addresses for PayPal and for the IRS. In this instance the correct
> > address to forward this kind of mail is:
> > 
> > ab...@icloud.com
> > 
> > You do want to forward, as they will need to examine the email's
> > header--its metadata.
> > 
> > PS: It's something very much like this that compromised John Podesta's
> > email that was so much in the news during the U.S. election. He was
> > fooled by one of these "man in the middle" attacks that got him to
> > reveal his gmail password.
> > 
> > Janina
> > 
> > Andrew Lamanche writes:
> >> Hi Everyone,
> >> 
> >> I’ve just received two fake emails with the Subject line "Apple Service ID 
> >> unlock it now before you lose it”.  This sort of thing has happened 
> >> before.  The email tells me that my icloud account associated with itunes 
> >> is going to be locked unless I follow the link in the email.  When I read 
> >> the content carefully, the grammar of the email is one of the obvious 
> >> giveaways.  Besides the content is all in a table - another odd thing 
> >> about it.  Be cautious, everyone.
> >> 
> >> best wishes
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Andrew !
> >> 
> >> -- 
> >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
> >> Visionaries list.
> >> 
> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
> >> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
> >> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> >> 
> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark 
> >> at:  macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara 
> >> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> >> 
> >> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> >> --- 
> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> >> "MacVisionaries" group.
> >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> > 
> > -- 
> > 
> > Janina Sajka,   Phone:  +1.443.300.2200
> > 

Re: Podcasting on the Mac?

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Are you wanting tools to listen to the podcast, or more for creating the 
podcast? Let's start there.

---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

i...@gillandmarketing.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
- Original Message - 
From: "Shannon Dyer" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 7:10 PM
Subject: Podcasting on the Mac?


Hi, all.

A site I’m affiliated with is tossing around the idea of doing a podcast. I’m 
using a macbook pro, and have no idea what accessible software is out there 
for this purpose. Can someone please advise?


Thanks in advance.

Shannon

--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
Visionaries list.


If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.


Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at: 
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com


The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. 


--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.

To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: How does one get to know your e-mail address?

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Don't do it! I get these type things all the time. They are a hoax, and 
surely will fraud you once you give them your account info.

---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

i...@gillandmarketing.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
- Original Message - 
From: "Kawal Gucukoglu" 

To: "Macvisionaries" 
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 4:28 PM
Subject: How does one get to know your e-mail address?


Hi.

This is a bit off topic but I have to ask this question.

I received an e-mail today to my me account as I only use that account for 
personal things and you may know I use my alias for stuff like this list.


Well, today I received an e-mail today to my me account, I will put this 
e-mail below so you can see what I'm talking about.  Now I think this e-mail 
is junk as I am frightened to do what is asked on it although I'm tempted if 
it means you get ready cash but I'm scared.


But what I'd like to know, how on earth do people get your e-mail especially 
if you do not give it out?  This e-mail is below.  I'd like someone's 
opinion for some one to tell me is this junk as It is difficult to tell.


I hope everyone understands that I only do this kind of thing to get advice 
from anyone who is happy to give it to me and as Mark says that this is a 
list to share things because we are all in the same boat, Visually impaired 
which is not my favourite word as I'm totally blind so my vision can't be 
impaired.  So please forgive me for this.


Time sensitive...
By using this free method just once, you will need a
checking account capable of receiving huge daily deposits.

I already made sure yours is ready here:
==>> Check it out here!

Click inside to activate this so your checking account
can receive deposits









If you wish to unsubscribed and stop receiving
updates, you can unsubscribe here

All Rights Reserved.

I actually saved it to text edit to see if my name was spelt wrong and it 
was not so you see my anxiety about this thing.


Kawal.

--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
Visionaries list.


If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.


Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at: 
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com


The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. 


--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.

To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: A question about the Sonos

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Glad we all could help. Let us know if you need anything further.
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

i...@gillandmarketing.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
- Original Message - 
From: "Kristeen Hughes" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 1:37 PM
Subject: Re: A question about the Sonos


I appreciate all of the great posts on this subject.

It does work beautifully on my iPhone, and it also works well using a line 
in cable from the Mac mini.


Thanks again.

Kristeen

On Nov 13, 2016, at 5:15 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


You are in good hands, my friend! I use Sonos products so extensively, I'm 
literally a private beta tester. I can't really say much more than that 
however regarding that fact. However, in regards to your question, the 
Sonos app is not very speech friendly with voiceover on the Mac. This 
said, do you have an iOS device, or a Windows device? If so, you have two 
sollutions, both of which are 100% accessible.


First off, you can install the Sonos Controller iOS app. It is totally 
totally accessible! Secondly, you can go to:


http://www.sonos.com

and download the Windows PC version of the Sonos controller. Then, you'll 
also need to go to:


http://www.hartgen.org/sonos

and get the free JAWS scripts that Brian wrote for the controller. They're 
not required, but they'll definitely help tremendously.


Actually, you even have a 3rd option, come to think of it. You also can 
use the controller app through Android e with any of the screen readers 
over there like Talkback, Spiel, Shine, Voice Assist, etc. There might 
even be an app for the Kindle Fire, but not sure. If you have an Amazon 
Alexa Echo, you even can control the speakers with your voice.


You also may want to go to

http://www.mosen.org

Jonathan Mosen has written a book which is very very reasonably priced, 
and very very very worth it, which will explain every single aspect of the 
Sonos system. After reading the book cover to cover in one day, I was so 
freaking hooked/convinced, that I went that very day, practically begging! 
my grandmother to take me to Best Buy to pick up a set of Play1's. It was 
probably one of the best investments I've ever made!


Cristine, if you'd like to do so, this is my work number, but it rings at 
all hours of the day to my home office. I'll be here all tonight, and all 
tomorrow, so feel free to call me if you'd like to discuss this further 
via voice. I'd be tickled to death to help you with this! Again, this 
number already is very much public knowledge, so it's not like I'm giving 
out personal info on list. It's in my signature anyway, so it's not like 
people can't already get it.


You can call me at: 704-256-8010, Then choose option 1 from the IVR. If 
you don't get me, leave me a voicemail with a number, and I'll call you 
back. I'm on eastern time, and there is no time which is most convenient. 
Just call whenever.


Please don't return the speaker though. I cross my heart we can get you up 
and running! If you return, you'll definitely regret in the long run. 
Hell, I'd kill! for a set of play5's, but they weren't in my budget at the 
time.

---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

i...@gillandmarketing.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
- Original Message - From: "Kristeen Hughes" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 9:10 PM
Subject: A question about the Sonos


I just got a Sonos Player: 5. I have installed the Sonos software, but it 
seems very visual and I can do nothing with it. It appears to have added 
my music, but all I see are images and I’m wondering how to actually make 
it work. It is testing my stupidity levels right now and finding them 
high.


Kristeen


--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
Visionaries list.


If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.


Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark 
at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara 
Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com


The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac 

Re: A question about the Sonos

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Very very welcome, as always.
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

i...@gillandmarketing.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
- Original Message - 
From: "Kristeen Hughes" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: A question about the Sonos


This post was extremely helpful and well-written. Thank you for it.

Kristeen

On Nov 13, 2016, at 5:36 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Yes. Absolutely you can.

1. In the app, near the top of the screen, you'll find a button that is 
labeled with the name of the room that is currently playing. If you've 
grouped multiple rooms, it will be labeled with the name of all grouped 
rooms. For example, in my case, I hear Studio and bedroom. Double tap on 
this button.


2.  Now, in the bottom of the screen, you'll see a button that says room 
settings. Double tap on this.


3.  Now, find the room for the speaker you want to adjust the base and 
trebble. Double tap on it.


4.  In this screen, you should find a few things. Trueplay, which 
basically calebrates the speaker via means of test tones being played. 
This process is 100% accessible. It didn't used to be, but I got ahold of 
them, and worked very very extensively with them, and though I cannot 
clame that it was me who made it accessible, I think I probably had a huge 
part to do with it. You also under here have settings for compression on 
or off, reducing loudness, and your base/trebble, all of which are 
accessible.


As for volume, the play5 is a little weird. Let me try explaining this.

Take your hand on the front of the speaker grill on the front face of the 
speaker bezil. In the top center, you're going to feel a raised engraving 
bit of print letters. Note, this only is applicable to the Play5. I'll 
explain the Play 1 and 3 in a second.  OK, so get yourself oriented with 
that emblum. It's going to be magic key to getting this to work.


On the print raised label, move your finger up from the front face bezil 
right to the top of the unit. Let your finger glide off the front of your 
unit over the top edge until it rests right on the top of the speaker 
right there aligned with where that printed label would be on the front 
speaker grill. There is a small little window there. This is a touch 
pannel, but don't worry. This is very very very very very easy once you 
know where that print label is. You're gonna use that as home base to line 
yourself up. There are only 3 items on this touch screen, and they are not 
context sensitive. They always no matter what will be the same. They never 
ever ever change. So... on the left side of the window is volume down. On 
the right side is volume up. In the very center is play/pause. So if you 
can take your finger on the front faced print logo, then just slide your 
finger up off the front, over to the top of the unit, your finger should 
glide right over the window on the area you need to touch. This sounds 
maybe a little tricky, but I swear. It's not. It's really easy. I was able 
in the Best Buy store to consistently get this to work the very first try. 
It's really really not hard once you know where that print label is, and 
no this little trick.


The play 1 and 3's are a little different. On them, there is no touch 
screen. There are physical buttons.


You will notice that you have a long virtical bar on the top of the 
speaker, just a little offset to the left from the bottom center of the 
top of the unit.  Actually, I'm wrong, I just looked at mine. It's not 
offset. It's actually dead smack center. This is the volume. Obviously the 
bar is a rocker button. The top part will turn it up with each press, and 
the bottom part turns it down. Just above this is a small square button. 
It's about the size of the pad of your finger. This is play/pause.


Two things to note. ON the Play5, in the back of the speaker, where your 
power cord and your line in jack and what not is, there is a small little 
button. This is the connect button. When connecting the speaker to your 
controller, you'll be asked to hit the connect button. This is the button 
they're talking about.


On the Play1 and Play3, what you're gonna do is, you're gonna press the 
volume up, and the play/pause buttons at the same time, don't hold them 
in. Just press and release. You're not gonna hold the connect button 
either on the play5, just push and release, by the way. No holding 
necessary.  You should hear then a small little chime tone through the 
speaker, which will indicate you did it correctly, and the controller 
software should then progress automatically to the next step in the setup 
process.


One more thing. When a song is playing, on either the play1 or play 5, as 
well as the play 3, double pressing, or in the case of the play 5, 
tapping, the play pause button will advance to the next song, if anything 
is in the queue. The queue gets slightly 

Re: Accessible ftp client for the mac.

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

I think it was like, $29, or $39. Can't remember.

http://www.panics.com

---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

i...@gillandmarketing.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
- Original Message - 
From: "jeff `greene" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible ftp client for the mac.


Hi I use Transmit and love it. It is very accessible with Voiceover. I
don't remember how much it costs but if you do a google search for it
you'll sometimes find coupon codes to save money.
Hope this helps! Jeff


On 11/17/16, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

Hi,

For a GUI option, take a look at Transmit.  Totally accessible, unless
they've broken it in the latest version.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 17, 2016, at 12:00, Nektarios Mallas  wrote:

Thanks for that.
I will definitely take a look.
Nektarios.


On 17 Nov 2016, at 20:43, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
 wrote:

Nektarios Mallas  wrote:

Well, i’ d rather not.  As much as I used to work with Unix in the past,
I
was really hoping for an accessible graphical user interface for this
task.
I really don’ t want to have to type long file names.



With lftp, you get tab completion, so you don't have to type long file
names.

--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac
Visionaries list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark
at:  macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara
Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac
Visionaries list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
if
you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners 
or

moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark 
at:
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - 
you

can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac
Visionaries list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
if
you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners 
or

moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark 
at:
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - 
you

can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.



--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
Visionaries list.


If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.


Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at: 
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at 

Re: Accessible ftp client for the mac.

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

They've not broken it as far as accessibility, but I'm still pulling my hair 
out trying to figure out why things are moving so slow both on the upload, 
and download sides. Especially the former.

---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

i...@gillandmarketing.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
- Original Message - 
From: "Tim Kilburn" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible ftp client for the mac.


Hi,

For a GUI option, take a look at Transmit.  Totally accessible, unless 
they've broken it in the latest version.


Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 17, 2016, at 12:00, Nektarios Mallas  wrote:

Thanks for that.
I will definitely take a look.
Nektarios.

On 17 Nov 2016, at 20:43, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:


Nektarios Mallas  wrote:
Well, i’ d rather not.  As much as I used to work with Unix in the past, 
I
was really hoping for an accessible graphical user interface for this 
task.

I really don’ t want to have to type long file names.



With lftp, you get tab completion, so you don't have to type long file 
names.


--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
Visionaries list.


If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.


Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark 
at:  macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara 
Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com


The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
Visionaries list.


If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.


Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at: 
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com


The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
Visionaries list.


If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.


Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at: 
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com


The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. 


--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:

Re: Accessible ftp client for the mac.

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

For the most part, yes. Editting conf files can be a little bit dicey in 
places, but it's definitely doable as long as you pay close attention to 
what you're doing.

---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

i...@gillandmarketing.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
- Original Message - 
From: "Karen Lewellen" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible ftp client for the mac.



Scott,
may I ask a silly question...perhaps?
Does voiceover  work the same in terminal mode as it does with the rest of 
the   system?
meaning your functionality, voice choices, remain when you are in 
terminal?

thanks,
Kare


On Thu, 17 Nov 2016, Scott Granados wrote:

Remember with the Mac you have the full compliment of unix tools.  You 
can go to terminal and use the good old ftp client ftp.  Also SCP and the 
complete suite of ssh tools are also available for remote login and 
moving files.


Hope that helps.


On Nov 17, 2016, at 12:30 PM, Nektarios Mallas  
wrote:


Hi guys.
Well, the subject says it all. I need an FTP client that will work well 
with voice over.
In windows many years ago, I used to use filezella and it was working 
very well with jaws.

Any help is very much appreciated.

Nektarios.

--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
Visionaries list.


If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.


Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark 
at:  macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara 
Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com


The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send 
an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
Visionaries list.


If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.


Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark 
at:  macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara 
Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com


The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.






--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.

To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Accessible ftp client for the mac.

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Another one that is really good by the way, from what I hear is Ciberduck.

I've never tried it, but I know people who have, who say it's quite good.
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

i...@gillandmarketing.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
- Original Message - 
From: "Nektarios Mallas" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible ftp client for the mac.



Hi Scott.
Well, i’ d rather not.
As much as I used to work with Unix in the past, I was really hoping for an 
accessible graphical user interface for this task.

I really don’ t want to have to type long file names.
Thanks any way.

Nektarios.


On 17 Nov 2016, at 19:40, Scott Granados  wrote:

Remember with the Mac you have the full compliment of unix tools.  You can 
go to terminal and use the good old ftp client ftp.  Also SCP and the 
complete suite of ssh tools are also available for remote login and moving 
files.


Hope that helps.



On Nov 17, 2016, at 12:30 PM, Nektarios Mallas  wrote:

Hi guys.
Well, the subject says it all. I need an FTP client that will work well 
with voice over.
In windows many years ago, I used to use filezella and it was working 
very well with jaws.

Any help is very much appreciated.

Nektarios.

--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
Visionaries list.


If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.


Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark 
at:  macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara 
Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com


The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
Visionaries list.


If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.


Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark 
at:  macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara 
Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com


The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
Visionaries list.


If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.


Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at: 
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com


The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. 


--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at 

Re: Accessible ftp client for the mac.

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Remember. There is always tab completion, so you don't have to type a whole 
long file name, or whatever. Just type the first bit of it, then hit your 
tab key. This said though, I agree with  you, and figured that was what you 
wanted, hince why I suggested transmit.

---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

i...@gillandmarketing.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
- Original Message - 
From: "Nektarios Mallas" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible ftp client for the mac.



Hi Scott.
Well, i’ d rather not.
As much as I used to work with Unix in the past, I was really hoping for an 
accessible graphical user interface for this task.

I really don’ t want to have to type long file names.
Thanks any way.

Nektarios.


On 17 Nov 2016, at 19:40, Scott Granados  wrote:

Remember with the Mac you have the full compliment of unix tools.  You can 
go to terminal and use the good old ftp client ftp.  Also SCP and the 
complete suite of ssh tools are also available for remote login and moving 
files.


Hope that helps.



On Nov 17, 2016, at 12:30 PM, Nektarios Mallas  wrote:

Hi guys.
Well, the subject says it all. I need an FTP client that will work well 
with voice over.
In windows many years ago, I used to use filezella and it was working 
very well with jaws.

Any help is very much appreciated.

Nektarios.

--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
Visionaries list.


If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.


Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark 
at:  macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara 
Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com


The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
Visionaries list.


If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.


Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark 
at:  macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara 
Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com


The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
Visionaries list.


If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.


Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at: 
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com


The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. 


--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can 

Re: Accessible ftp client for the mac.

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

um,

I thought cls was the command in dos that cleared the screen, which in unix 
is simply just, "clear". I think the command you're thinking of is just 
"ls". And, if you don't want anything but just a straight list of 
files/folders then you can do, "ls -1".


It's kind a like the "dir" command was in the old dos days.

Still though, being he talks about Filezilla, I'm presuming that he wants a 
gui based app, not a CLI.

---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

i...@gillandmarketing.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
- Original Message - 
From: "'Jason White' via MacVisionaries" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible ftp client for the mac.



Nektarios Mallas  wrote:
Well, the subject says it all. I need an FTP client that will work well 
with

voice over.


lftp will definitely work. You should be able to install it by first
installing HomeBrew, then installing the lftp package. Finally, run it 
from a
terminal. The cls command is the most convenient way to obtain a list of 
files

in a directory.

--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
Visionaries list.


If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.


Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark 
at:  macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara 
Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com


The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. 


--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.

To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Accessible ftp client for the mac.

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

I really like transmit, although, lately it's going really slow for me, and 
I've yet figured out why.

---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

i...@gillandmarketing.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
- Original Message - 
From: "Nektarios Mallas" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 12:30 PM
Subject: Accessible ftp client for the mac.



Hi guys.
Well, the subject says it all. I need an FTP client that will work well 
with voice over.
In windows many years ago, I used to use filezella and it was working very 
well with jaws.

Any help is very much appreciated.

Nektarios.

--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
Visionaries list.


If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.


Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark 
at:  macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara 
Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com


The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. 


--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.

To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Another phenominal story to tell you all about Apple Accessibility!

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Again,

I never said there wasn't hope for Apple, nor did I say that what I did was 
a smart move. Honestly, I feel pretty stupid!

---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

i...@gillandmarketing.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
- Original Message - 
From: "Scott Granados" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: Another phenominal story to tell you all about Apple 
Accessibility!



I’m not sure why there wouldn’t be hope for Apple, this is pretty common 
behavior although you’d have to be pretty odd to be ripping off parts of the 
tray that’s already installed.  I can sort of understand how this might 
happen though as sometimes the components feel different than you might 
imagine but in general, if I don’t know what it is I don’t rip it off.;)



On Nov 17, 2016, at 10:45 AM, E.T.  wrote:

  There is hope for Apple yet. (shakes head in wonderment)

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/17/2016 12:53 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Guys, once again, Apple has done it! They have exceeded my expectations
by far! I'm very very impressed!

So, here's the medium length version of the Sauga.

I have two iPhones, a 7+, and a 6S.

What I wanted to do was, I wanted to take the sim cards, and reverse
them. So the 6S goes in the 7+, the 7+ goes in the 6S. Basically a phone
number swap.

What happened was, for some reason, I don't know if the sim tray was
crooked or what, but it wasn't seating  flushed with the bezil of the
phone. So, I slid the tray out all the way into my hand, and really
examined the tray closely with no sim lying in it. What I noticed was,
on the end opisit from what goes first slidden into the phone, there was
this really el cheapo dinky dank little thing that felt like the
protective plastic thin film that would go over the screen of a phone
during packaging to protect it. The best way I can describe it is, it
felt like really really really thin filmy wax paper, or maybe like

really thin cellophan. I was like, what on earth? um, why would

cellophane be on the tray down inside the sim slot stuck to the tray?
Don't tell me at Best buy, they didn't see this and forgot to remove
it.  Well, no worries. Well? yeah, worries! Oopsy doodles, Me bwoke it
weel good! Basically, thinking that was

cellophane, what did little Crissy dumb nut do? You guessed it!  Yank? I
tore the thing right off. I'm like it's just

cellophane, so who cares!



Well? I later found out, so guys with iPhone 7 and 7 pluses, beware of
this, that's not actually

cellophane! Don't pull it off, whatever the heck you do! That film is a
very thin rubbery bumpber/gasket which basically helps the sim card tray
to slide in totally aligned straight/flat. If you tear it off, you just
rendered that sim tray utterly useless.



So long story short, I called Apple Accessibility and told them I was
having issues.  Through describing to them what I did, and what
initially happened before doing so, and what happened now that I did! do
so, they were able to conclude what I'd done, and explained to me about
that little rubber piece. They took my feedback and sent to engineers
regarding this, as to a blind person, that's really kind a a bad way to
make that sim tray. I mean, the tray from my 6S doesn't have one of
those rubber pieces, and it fits both my phones perfectly! So, why add
that bumper? Don't fix it if it ain't a problem to start with. I liked
it better on the 6S, 6S+, 6, and 6S, how there are! no pieces like that
on the tray. It just is what it is, a tray.



They said I'm by far not the first person's who's done this to their
7/7+ tray, and were very very willing to own up to it being their falt
for confusing design, especially if you can't visually see what it is
you're pulling to know what it isn't. They were so sorry for this, that
they agreed even to send me out not 1, but two! 6S doors, and! two 7+
doors. so I'd have some spares. They're not even charging me a penny 
either!




To me, that really shows that they get it. They really do understand how
this potentially is a bigtime problem that needs to be dealt with in
their making assemblyline.



Go Apple!



Chris.

--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac
Visionaries list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark
at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara
Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
Groups 

Re: Podcasting on the Mac?

[Michael Babcock]

Parden, Amadeus is just for audio editing; i personally use Libsyn to host the 
files and generate any xml files i need for my podcasts.
(i’ll admit i’m in love with Libsyn’s stats)

> On Nov 17, 2016, at 5:41 PM, Todor Fassl  wrote:
> 
> Does Amadeus create the podcast xml file? I found that creating the audio 
> file was only half the job. Creating a valid podcast xml file was the other 
> half. This was a couple of years ago but I was surprised that there didn't 
> seem to be any software for generating that xml file.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/17/2016 06:31 PM, michael babcock wrote:
>> I use Amadeus Lite and others use Amadeus PRO.
>> http://mosen.org/become-an-amadeus-pro-maestro/ 
>> 
>> hope this helps
>> (note, i can also take care of the technical podcast requirements, e.g. 
>> audio editing and establishing your podcast; email:
>> mich...@yourownpay.com 
>> for more information)
>> best.
>> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2016, at 4:10 PM, Shannon Dyer >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, all.
>>> 
>>> A site I’m affiliated with is tossing around the idea of doing a podcast. 
>>> I’m using a macbook pro, and have no idea what accessible software is out 
>>> there for this purpose. Can someone please advise?
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>> 
>>> Shannon
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>>> Visionaries list.
>>> 
>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners 
>>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>> 
>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at: 
>>>  macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com 
>>>  and your owner is Cara 
>>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ 
>>> 
>>> --- 
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
>>> .
>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> .
>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries 
>>> .
>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout 
>>> .
>> 
>> -- 
>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>> Visionaries list.
>>  
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>  
>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: 
>> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com 
>>  and your owner is Cara 
>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com 
>> 
>>  
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ 
>> 
>> --- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
>> .
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> .
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries 
>> .
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout 
>> .
> 
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
>  
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>  
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: 
> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>  
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> 

Re: Podcasting on the Mac?

[Larry Thacker Jr.]

There are plenty of ready-made solutions for publishing your audio file as a 
podcast.  You should not have to generate the XML for yourself unless you’re 
planning to write all your own software for publishing.  A web search on the 
topic will turn up all kinds of solutions, but accessibility is always the 
question.  I’m publishing a couple of podcasts using WordPress with the 
Seriously Simple Podcasting plugin.  Now admittedly mine are far from 
professional quality.  I’m taking files off of a digital voice recorder, 
cleaning them up a little with Amadeus, then publishing them.

> On Nov 17, 2016, at 7:41 PM, Todor Fassl  wrote:
> 
> Does Amadeus create the podcast xml file? I found that creating the audio 
> file was only half the job. Creating a valid podcast xml file was the other 
> half. This was a couple of years ago but I was surprised that there didn't 
> seem to be any software for generating that xml file.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/17/2016 06:31 PM, michael babcock wrote:
>> I use Amadeus Lite and others use Amadeus PRO.
>> http://mosen.org/become-an-amadeus-pro-maestro/ 
>> 
>> hope this helps
>> (note, i can also take care of the technical podcast requirements, e.g. 
>> audio editing and establishing your podcast; email:
>> mich...@yourownpay.com 
>> for more information)
>> best.
>> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2016, at 4:10 PM, Shannon Dyer >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, all.
>>> 
>>> A site I’m affiliated with is tossing around the idea of doing a podcast. 
>>> I’m using a macbook pro, and have no idea what accessible software is out 
>>> there for this purpose. Can someone please advise?
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>> 
>>> Shannon
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>>> Visionaries list.
>>> 
>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners 
>>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>> 
>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at: 
>>>  macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com 
>>>  and your owner is Cara 
>>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ 
>>> 
>>> --- 
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
>>> .
>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> .
>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries 
>>> .
>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout 
>>> .
>> 
>> -- 
>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>> Visionaries list.
>>  
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>  
>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: 
>> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com 
>>  and your owner is Cara 
>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com 
>> 
>>  
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ 
>> 
>> --- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
>> .
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> .
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries 
>> .
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout 
>> .
> 
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
>  
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's 

Re: Podcasting on the Mac?

[Todor Fassl]

Does Amadeus create the podcast xml file? I found that creating the 
audio file was only half the job. Creating a valid podcast xml file was 
the other half. This was a couple of years ago but I was surprised that 
there didn't seem to be any software for generating that xml file.






On 11/17/2016 06:31 PM, michael babcock wrote:

I use Amadeus Lite and others use Amadeus PRO.
_http://mosen.org/become-an-amadeus-pro-maestro/_
_hope this helps_
_(note, i can also take care of the technical podcast requirements, 
e.g. audio editing and establishing your podcast; email:_

_mich...@yourownpay.com _
_for more information)_
_best._
_
_
On Nov 17, 2016, at 4:10 PM, Shannon Dyer > wrote:


Hi, all.

A site I’m affiliated with is tossing around the idea of doing a 
podcast. I’m using a macbook pro, and have no idea what accessible 
software is out there for this purpose. Can someone please advise?


Thanks in advance.

Shannon

--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
Visionaries list.


If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, 
or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact 
the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.


Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach 
mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com 
 and your owner is 
Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com 



The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, 
send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
Visionaries list.


If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, 
or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact 
the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.


Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark 
at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara 
Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com


The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send 
an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
.

Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.

To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Mac won't boot from anything but cd and dvd

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

I believe that Sierra is not compatible with that machine.  When you start up 
from the CD or DVD, is the Macintosh HD visible?  If so, then the HD is likely 
OK.  There are cases when the HD is visible to Disk Utility or the installer, 
but the installation will fail.  In those cases, the HD probably has some bad 
sectors and is essentially at the end of its life cycle.  Whether it is or not 
though, I don't believe that Sierra is an option for that unit.  It may have 
more life left in it if you install an SSD with El Capitan or Yosemite.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 17, 2016, at 18:23, Portia Scott  wrote:

Hey all,

For some odd reason, my friend Michelle's MacBook Pro, Which is from mid 2009, 
Will not boot anything unless it is from a CD/DVD.

I have tried redoing the USB thumb drive/ SD card, both with terminal using the 
MacWorld article, And the disc maker ex six release candidate version that is 
made  for Mack OS Sierra.

Could the hard drive be totally gone? It won't install Mac from the DVD, But 
funnily enough, it will install Linux…

I am not sure what is going on with it, but I do not know what to do at this 
point. I have tried helping her in any way, shape or form. We did redo the SD 
card and USB drive for two days straight. So any ideas would be very 
appreciated, thank you very much

Sincerely,

A very confused and baffled Portia, lol.

PS. Sorry for the mention of linux, just... . Very confused and baffled 
here.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Podcasting on the Mac?

[Todor Fassl]

A podcast consists of a collection of audio or video files and an xml 
document that describes them. If there is an easy way to generate the 
xml file, I have never seen it. I wrote a perl script that generates a 
podcast xml document from the tags in a set of mp3 files in a folder. In 
other words, if the mp3 files contain the appropriate tags, it will 
generate a valid podcast xml file. If you are interested in that, email 
me off list.






On 11/17/2016 06:10 PM, Shannon Dyer wrote:

Hi, all.

A site I’m affiliated with is tossing around the idea of doing a podcast. I’m 
using a macbook pro, and have no idea what accessible software is out there for 
this purpose. Can someone please advise?

Thanks in advance.

Shannon



--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.

To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: The control-G vm fusion question again

[E.T.]

   I ran VM a bit ago and this time I did not execute command-g. I did 
not do a lot but found things worked just fine. Will need to do more 
experimenting.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/17/2016 4:07 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

Very good.  For a goof I just tried parallels with their trial option.  Talk 
about less than useless.  Completely and utterly inaccessible.  I was hopeful 
that over all this time things had improved but no such luck.



On Nov 17, 2016, at 5:07 PM, E.T.  wrote:

Scott,
  I do not remember what version of Fusion I started with. I do not think the 
force grab function was brought over to version 8. It used to be on the Virtual 
Machine menu. I looked at version 8 release notes and found nothing.

  If we can find out what replaces the force grab, we might have solved it.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/17/2016 1:06 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

It does and I’ll do some googling on the command g feature, maybe I can shed 
some light on this by playing with it more myself.

Thanks as always ET.

And good comments from Janina this might be worth some communication with 
VMWare once I’m more confident it’s not the user behind my keyboard that’s the 
problem.:)


On Nov 17, 2016, at 4:03 PM, E.T.  wrote:

Scott,
 Ok here is what I think would be worth studying. I was just in my VM and my 
frustration level is still a bit high so will not run it again for now.

 Seems Command-G was on the menu when I first started using VMware. Its no 
longer there yet it seems to still work. I want to play with this a lot more 
though and confirm some suspicions. Its supposed to grab the heyboard away from 
the Mac.

 This may not work any more as lately I have found just pressing a wrong key or 
too long throws things around and I have trouble getting focused on the VM 
again.

 So perhaps Command-G really is not used any more. When I run the VM in full 
screen I am not interested in switching between Mac and Windows. Yet I want 
access to the menu bar. I have disabled the VM toolbar and mini bar. I think I 
have conflicts here though by inadvertently pressing Mac keystrokes.

 Did this make sense?

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/17/2016 12:42 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

I misspoke I meant command G not control G.  Command G doesn’t seem to do 
anything for me, maybe I’m using it at the wrong time, not sure.


On Nov 17, 2016, at 2:01 PM, E.T.  wrote:

Scott,
I do not see that command in my list of shortcuts. When I load my VM and wait 
long enough to let Windows fully load. I press Cmd-G to grab the keyboard and 
then Cmd-Ctrl-F to enter full screen.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/17/2016 10:45 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

Hi, I wanted to confirm this.

When I run fusion and boot a VM, is it control-G that is supposed to allow me 
to gain access to the vm interface?  I just get a bonk sound when I press this 
combo and nothing happens.  In most cases, in full screen mode I can’t enter 
the VM and in zoom reduced mode I can but by tabbing past the snapshots button 
I will drop in to the vm.  Is there a more simple mechanism, do I have the 
keystroke wrong?  Any pointers would be most appreciated.

Thank you



--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.





--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara 

Mac won't boot from anything but cd and dvd

[Portia Scott]

Hey all,

For some odd reason, my friend Michelle's MacBook Pro, Which is from mid 2009, 
Will not boot anything unless it is from a CD/DVD.

I have tried redoing the USB thumb drive/ SD card, both with terminal using the 
MacWorld article, And the disc maker ex six release candidate version that is 
made  for Mack OS Sierra.

Could the hard drive be totally gone? It won't install Mac from the DVD, But 
funnily enough, it will install Linux…

I am not sure what is going on with it, but I do not know what to do at this 
point. I have tried helping her in any way, shape or form. We did redo the SD 
card and USB drive for two days straight. So any ideas would be very 
appreciated, thank you very much

Sincerely,

 A very confused and baffled Portia, lol.

PS. Sorry for the mention of linux, just... . Very confused and baffled 
here.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Podcasting on the Mac?

[Shannon Dyer]

Thanks for this.

I’ll definitely let you know once the site manager figures out exactly what she 
wants to do.

Shannon
> On Nov 17, 2016, at 7:31 PM, michael babcock  
> wrote:
> 
> I use Amadeus Lite and others use Amadeus PRO.
> http://mosen.org/become-an-amadeus-pro-maestro/ 
> 
> hope this helps
> (note, i can also take care of the technical podcast requirements, e.g. audio 
> editing and establishing your podcast; email:
> mich...@yourownpay.com 
> for more information)
> best.
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2016, at 4:10 PM, Shannon Dyer > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, all.
>> 
>> A site I’m affiliated with is tossing around the idea of doing a podcast. 
>> I’m using a macbook pro, and have no idea what accessible software is out 
>> there for this purpose. Can someone please advise?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> Shannon
>> 
>> -- 
>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>> Visionaries list.
>> 
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>> 
>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
>> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com 
>>  and your owner is Cara 
>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com 
>> 
>> 
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ 
>> 
>> --- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
>  
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>  
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: 
> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>  
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ 
> 
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
> .
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> .
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries 
> .
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout 
> .

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: How does one get to know your e-mail address?

[E.T.]

   I am not surprised one bit. Why? Because there is no real threat 
against these scammers.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/17/2016 4:05 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

You’d be surprised how successful these are.

Scamming like this is one of the largest industries in Nigeria for example.


On Nov 17, 2016, at 5:39 PM, E.T.  wrote:

  Oh I do too but I hear more and more creative scams on the news. Latest one 
is virtual kidnapping. The woman this happened to said the caller warned her 
not to hang up but follow directions and her daughter would be safe. She was to 
drive to Western Union and send 10 grand in some form of currency that cannot 
be traced. He tracked her all the way, knew exactly where she was at any given 
moment. Of course her daughter had not been kidnapped and that 10 grand was 
gone forever.

  Another way that many people leave their doors wide open is to publish all 
their social media contacts in their sigs which reads like a big city phone 
directory.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/17/2016 2:25 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

Oh thanks ET.  Will delete it now.  I wish people didn't do this kind of thing.

On 17 Nov 2016, at 21:37, E.T.  wrote:

Kawal,
 This is phishing. Its a common ploy to steal one's information. Its also how 
the scumbugs plant their tools in one's computer so they can take it hostage 
and demand a ransom.

 The best defense is simply to be extremely skeptical. And delete these emails 
permanently as soon as you receive it.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/17/2016 1:28 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

Hi.

This is a bit off topic but I have to ask this question.

I received an e-mail today to my me account as I only use that account for 
personal things and you may know I use my alias for stuff like this list.

Well, today I received an e-mail today to my me account, I will put this e-mail 
below so you can see what I'm talking about.  Now I think this e-mail is junk 
as I am frightened to do what is asked on it although I'm tempted if it means 
you get ready cash but I'm scared.

But what I'd like to know, how on earth do people get your e-mail especially if 
you do not give it out?  This e-mail is below.  I'd like someone's opinion for 
some one to tell me is this junk as It is difficult to tell.

I hope everyone understands that I only do this kind of thing to get advice 
from anyone who is happy to give it to me and as Mark says that this is a list 
to share things because we are all in the same boat, Visually impaired which is 
not my favourite word as I'm totally blind so my vision can't be impaired.  So 
please forgive me for this.

Time sensitive...
By using this free method just once, you will need a
checking account capable of receiving huge daily deposits.

I already made sure yours is ready here:
==>> Check it out here!

Click inside to activate this so your checking account
can receive deposits









If you wish to unsubscribed and stop receiving
updates, you can unsubscribe here

All Rights Reserved.

I actually saved it to text edit to see if my name was spelt wrong and it was 
not so you see my anxiety about this thing.

Kawal.



--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.





--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:

Re: Aftershockz bluez 2s headset

[Danny Noonan]

My head shape doesn't suit the blues 2's so mine were used maybe 20 times. If 
anyone wants to make me an offer. 

Danny

Sent from my iPhone

> On 18 Nov 2016, at 10:50 am, Larry Thacker Jr.  
> wrote:
> 
> The Blues are a plastic band.  They necessarily have some flex, but I broke 
> at least 2 pair and one side went out on the third.  According to Aftershokz 
> there was a manufacturing defect that has been corrected since and my wife 
> has a pair that has held up, but they just sit on the table most of the time. 
>  The Trekz Titanium are actually made of Titanium.  I don’t think you could 
> break them if you tried, and they are lighter and smaller. The neck band is 
> less than 1/4 inches thick.  The plastic Blues are considerably wider around 
> the back.  
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2016, at 12:50 AM, Cheree Heppe  wrote:
>> 
>> How do those differ and why are they more durable?
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 16, 2016, at 16:27, Larry Thacker Jr.  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Same here.  I recommend spending the extra to get the Trekz Titanium.  The 
>>> Blues I have had all broke or stopped working.  Aftershokz was good about 
>>> replacing them, but that gets old.  The Titaniums are made differently and 
>>> are much more durable.  I wear mine around the house and leave them on my 
>>> head all the time when I go out.  You may find them inadequate if you spend 
>>> time in loud environments such as a bus, train, or crowded restaurant.  
>>> Mine shipped with a pair of ear plugs, which rather defeats the purpose of 
>>> the headset but is a good solution if you’re somewhere safe and for the 
>>> moment don’t need to hear what’s around you.  They are best for their 
>>> advertised purpose of leaving your ears open.  However, as my wife would 
>>> tell you, what you are hearing in the headset will still distract you and 
>>> possibly cause you to miss what’s going on around you.  That’s a brain 
>>> issue, and perhaps others’ are better than mine.  If I have to start 
>>> commuting again, I may prefer something that works better on the train, but 
>>> otherwise I love my Aftershokz 
>>> and highly recommend them.
>>> 
 On Nov 16, 2016, at 6:08 PM, Cheree Heppe  wrote:
 
 I love mine because they let me hear both ambient and i-device sounds, 
 improving navigation and phone access.  They pair just fine.
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Nov 16, 2016, at 13:46, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Has anyone on the list had aftershockz bluez 2S headset? If so, is it 
> easy to pair with iOS devices and/or mac? Any comments on their 
> performance?  I've only just come across them and thought they might be 
> rather useful as they wouldn't cut out the ambient noise - an important 
> factor if I walk around the house.  With headset that fit into my ear or 
> cover my ears, I either have to use just one ear or otherwise bump into 
> furniture and doors.
> 
> Andrew
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
> Visionaries list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark 
> at:  macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara 
> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
 
 -- 
 The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
 Visionaries list.
 
 If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
 if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
 owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
 
 Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark 
 at:  macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara 
 Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
 
 The archives for this list can be searched at:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
 

Re: Podcasting on the Mac?

[michael babcock]

I use Amadeus Lite and others use Amadeus PRO.
http://mosen.org/become-an-amadeus-pro-maestro/ 

hope this helps
(note, i can also take care of the technical podcast requirements, e.g. audio 
editing and establishing your podcast; email:
mich...@yourownpay.com 
for more information)
best.

> On Nov 17, 2016, at 4:10 PM, Shannon Dyer  wrote:
> 
> Hi, all.
> 
> A site I’m affiliated with is tossing around the idea of doing a podcast. I’m 
> using a macbook pro, and have no idea what accessible software is out there 
> for this purpose. Can someone please advise?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Shannon
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Podcasting on the Mac?

[Shannon Dyer]

Hi, all.

A site I’m affiliated with is tossing around the idea of doing a podcast. I’m 
using a macbook pro, and have no idea what accessible software is out there for 
this purpose. Can someone please advise?

Thanks in advance.

Shannon

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: The control-G vm fusion question again

[Scott Granados]

Very good.  For a goof I just tried parallels with their trial option.  Talk 
about less than useless.  Completely and utterly inaccessible.  I was hopeful 
that over all this time things had improved but no such luck.
 

> On Nov 17, 2016, at 5:07 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> Scott,
>   I do not remember what version of Fusion I started with. I do not think the 
> force grab function was brought over to version 8. It used to be on the 
> Virtual Machine menu. I looked at version 8 release notes and found nothing.
> 
>   If we can find out what replaces the force grab, we might have solved it.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 11/17/2016 1:06 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> It does and I’ll do some googling on the command g feature, maybe I can shed 
>> some light on this by playing with it more myself.
>> 
>> Thanks as always ET.
>> 
>> And good comments from Janina this might be worth some communication with 
>> VMWare once I’m more confident it’s not the user behind my keyboard that’s 
>> the problem.:)
>> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2016, at 4:03 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Scott,
>>>  Ok here is what I think would be worth studying. I was just in my VM and 
>>> my frustration level is still a bit high so will not run it again for now.
>>> 
>>>  Seems Command-G was on the menu when I first started using VMware. Its no 
>>> longer there yet it seems to still work. I want to play with this a lot 
>>> more though and confirm some suspicions. Its supposed to grab the heyboard 
>>> away from the Mac.
>>> 
>>>  This may not work any more as lately I have found just pressing a wrong 
>>> key or too long throws things around and I have trouble getting focused on 
>>> the VM again.
>>> 
>>>  So perhaps Command-G really is not used any more. When I run the VM in 
>>> full screen I am not interested in switching between Mac and Windows. Yet I 
>>> want access to the menu bar. I have disabled the VM toolbar and mini bar. I 
>>> think I have conflicts here though by inadvertently pressing Mac keystrokes.
>>> 
>>>  Did this make sense?
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Without H2O there is no life!
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 11/17/2016 12:42 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
 I misspoke I meant command G not control G.  Command G doesn’t seem to do 
 anything for me, maybe I’m using it at the wrong time, not sure.
 
> On Nov 17, 2016, at 2:01 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> Scott,
> I do not see that command in my list of shortcuts. When I load my VM and 
> wait long enough to let Windows fully load. I press Cmd-G to grab the 
> keyboard and then Cmd-Ctrl-F to enter full screen.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 11/17/2016 10:45 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> Hi, I wanted to confirm this.
>> 
>> When I run fusion and boot a VM, is it control-G that is supposed to 
>> allow me to gain access to the vm interface?  I just get a bonk sound 
>> when I press this combo and nothing happens.  In most cases, in full 
>> screen mode I can’t enter the VM and in zoom reduced mode I can but by 
>> tabbing past the snapshots button I will drop in to the vm.  Is there a 
>> more simple mechanism, do I have the keystroke wrong?  Any pointers 
>> would be most appreciated.
>> 
>> Thank you
>> 
> 
> --
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
> Visionaries list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark 
> at:  macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara 
> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
> Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>>> Visionaries list.
>>> 
>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners 
>>> or moderators 

Re: How does one get to know your e-mail address?

[Scott Granados]

You’d be surprised how successful these are.

Scamming like this is one of the largest industries in Nigeria for example.

> On Nov 17, 2016, at 5:39 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Oh I do too but I hear more and more creative scams on the news. Latest one 
> is virtual kidnapping. The woman this happened to said the caller warned her 
> not to hang up but follow directions and her daughter would be safe. She was 
> to drive to Western Union and send 10 grand in some form of currency that 
> cannot be traced. He tracked her all the way, knew exactly where she was at 
> any given moment. Of course her daughter had not been kidnapped and that 10 
> grand was gone forever.
> 
>   Another way that many people leave their doors wide open is to publish all 
> their social media contacts in their sigs which reads like a big city phone 
> directory.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 11/17/2016 2:25 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>> Oh thanks ET.  Will delete it now.  I wish people didn't do this kind of 
>> thing.
>>> On 17 Nov 2016, at 21:37, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Kawal,
>>>  This is phishing. Its a common ploy to steal one's information. Its also 
>>> how the scumbugs plant their tools in one's computer so they can take it 
>>> hostage and demand a ransom.
>>> 
>>>  The best defense is simply to be extremely skeptical. And delete these 
>>> emails permanently as soon as you receive it.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Without H2O there is no life!
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 11/17/2016 1:28 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
 Hi.
 
 This is a bit off topic but I have to ask this question.
 
 I received an e-mail today to my me account as I only use that account for 
 personal things and you may know I use my alias for stuff like this list.
 
 Well, today I received an e-mail today to my me account, I will put this 
 e-mail below so you can see what I'm talking about.  Now I think this 
 e-mail is junk as I am frightened to do what is asked on it although I'm 
 tempted if it means you get ready cash but I'm scared.
 
 But what I'd like to know, how on earth do people get your e-mail 
 especially if you do not give it out?  This e-mail is below.  I'd like 
 someone's opinion for some one to tell me is this junk as It is difficult 
 to tell.
 
 I hope everyone understands that I only do this kind of thing to get 
 advice from anyone who is happy to give it to me and as Mark says that 
 this is a list to share things because we are all in the same boat, 
 Visually impaired which is not my favourite word as I'm totally blind so 
 my vision can't be impaired.  So please forgive me for this.
 
 Time sensitive...
 By using this free method just once, you will need a
 checking account capable of receiving huge daily deposits.
 
 I already made sure yours is ready here:
 ==>> Check it out here!
 
 Click inside to activate this so your checking account
 can receive deposits
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 If you wish to unsubscribed and stop receiving
 updates, you can unsubscribe here
 
 All Rights Reserved.
 
 I actually saved it to text edit to see if my name was spelt wrong and it 
 was not so you see my anxiety about this thing.
 
 Kawal.
 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>>> Visionaries list.
>>> 
>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners 
>>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>> 
>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at: 
>>>  macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - 
>>> you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>> 
>>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>>> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>> 
>> 
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator 

Re: How does one get to know your e-mail address?

[Scott Granados]

Kawal, this is a scam, run and don’t walk and get away from it.;). They find 
your email addresses from things like this mailing list.  All mailing lists are 
indexed and can be scraped for email address by bots or even by hand and they 
send you these mails.  It’s called fishing, similar to the fake email from 
apple messages someone mentioned earlier.  You want nothing to do with this.

> On Nov 17, 2016, at 4:28 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> Hi.
> 
> This is a bit off topic but I have to ask this question.
> 
> I received an e-mail today to my me account as I only use that account for 
> personal things and you may know I use my alias for stuff like this list.
> 
> Well, today I received an e-mail today to my me account, I will put this 
> e-mail below so you can see what I'm talking about.  Now I think this e-mail 
> is junk as I am frightened to do what is asked on it although I'm tempted if 
> it means you get ready cash but I'm scared.
> 
> But what I'd like to know, how on earth do people get your e-mail especially 
> if you do not give it out?  This e-mail is below.  I'd like someone's opinion 
> for some one to tell me is this junk as It is difficult to tell.
> 
> I hope everyone understands that I only do this kind of thing to get advice 
> from anyone who is happy to give it to me and as Mark says that this is a 
> list to share things because we are all in the same boat, Visually impaired 
> which is not my favourite word as I'm totally blind so my vision can't be 
> impaired.  So please forgive me for this.
> 
> Time sensitive...
> By using this free method just once, you will need a 
> checking account capable of receiving huge daily deposits.
> 
> I already made sure yours is ready here:
> ==>> Check it out here!
> 
> Click inside to activate this so your checking account 
> can receive deposits
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> If you wish to unsubscribed and stop receiving
> updates, you can unsubscribe here 
> 
> All Rights Reserved.
> 
> I actually saved it to text edit to see if my name was spelt wrong and it was 
> not so you see my anxiety about this thing.
> 
> Kawal.
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Aftershockz bluez 2s headset

[Larry Thacker Jr.]

The Blues are a plastic band.  They necessarily have some flex, but I broke at 
least 2 pair and one side went out on the third.  According to Aftershokz there 
was a manufacturing defect that has been corrected since and my wife has a pair 
that has held up, but they just sit on the table most of the time.  The Trekz 
Titanium are actually made of Titanium.  I don’t think you could break them if 
you tried, and they are lighter and smaller. The neck band is less than 1/4 
inches thick.  The plastic Blues are considerably wider around the back.  

> On Nov 17, 2016, at 12:50 AM, Cheree Heppe  wrote:
> 
> How do those differ and why are they more durable?
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 16, 2016, at 16:27, Larry Thacker Jr.  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Same here.  I recommend spending the extra to get the Trekz Titanium.  The 
>> Blues I have had all broke or stopped working.  Aftershokz was good about 
>> replacing them, but that gets old.  The Titaniums are made differently and 
>> are much more durable.  I wear mine around the house and leave them on my 
>> head all the time when I go out.  You may find them inadequate if you spend 
>> time in loud environments such as a bus, train, or crowded restaurant.  Mine 
>> shipped with a pair of ear plugs, which rather defeats the purpose of the 
>> headset but is a good solution if you’re somewhere safe and for the moment 
>> don’t need to hear what’s around you.  They are best for their advertised 
>> purpose of leaving your ears open.  However, as my wife would tell you, what 
>> you are hearing in the headset will still distract you and possibly cause 
>> you to miss what’s going on around you.  That’s a brain issue, and perhaps 
>> others’ are better than mine.  If I have to start commuting again, I may 
>> prefer something that works better on the train, but otherwise I love my 
>> Aftershokz 
>> and highly recommend them.
>> 
>>> On Nov 16, 2016, at 6:08 PM, Cheree Heppe  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I love mine because they let me hear both ambient and i-device sounds, 
>>> improving navigation and phone access.  They pair just fine.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Nov 16, 2016, at 13:46, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Has anyone on the list had aftershockz bluez 2S headset? If so, is it easy 
 to pair with iOS devices and/or mac? Any comments on their performance?  
 I've only just come across them and thought they might be rather useful as 
 they wouldn't cut out the ambient noise - an important factor if I walk 
 around the house.  With headset that fit into my ear or cover my ears, I 
 either have to use just one ear or otherwise bump into furniture and doors.
 
 Andrew
 
 -- 
 The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
 Visionaries list.
 
 If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
 if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
 owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
 
 Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark 
 at:  macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara 
 Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
 
 The archives for this list can be searched at:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
 --- 
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 "MacVisionaries" group.
 To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
 email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
 Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
 For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>>> Visionaries list.
>>> 
>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners 
>>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>> 
>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at: 
>>>  macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - 
>>> you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>> 
>>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>>> --- 
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>>> Visit this group at 

Re: How does one get to know your e-mail address?

[David Griffith]

You have to think why would somebody who does not know you want to give 
you ready cash?


It is obvious a fishing email which should go straight into the trash.


As to how they get your email address they apparently have engines which 
churn out thousands and thousands of user names sequentially and link 
them to known email providers.



I once had an email address which for various reasons I never ever used. 
I did not publish it and it never appeared on any email message or was 
involved in any transaction.  Sure enough after a while even this 
completely unused account started to attract spam messages. A spam 
engine had managed to hit it by trying out names almost at random.



The crucial thing of course is to never reply to these emails or if you 
can avoid allowing your email account to remotely download content which 
of course also confirms to the the spammers that they have made a hit.



David Griffith


On 17/11/2016 21:28, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:


Hi.

This is a bit off topic but I have to ask this question.

I received an e-mail today to my me account as I only use that account for 
personal things and you may know I use my alias for stuff like this list.

Well, today I received an e-mail today to my me account, I will put this e-mail 
below so you can see what I'm talking about.  Now I think this e-mail is junk 
as I am frightened to do what is asked on it although I'm tempted if it means 
you get ready cash but I'm scared.

But what I'd like to know, how on earth do people get your e-mail especially if 
you do not give it out?  This e-mail is below.  I'd like someone's opinion for 
some one to tell me is this junk as It is difficult to tell.

I hope everyone understands that I only do this kind of thing to get advice 
from anyone who is happy to give it to me and as Mark says that this is a list 
to share things because we are all in the same boat, Visually impaired which is 
not my favourite word as I'm totally blind so my vision can't be impaired.  So 
please forgive me for this.

Time sensitive...
By using this free method just once, you will need a
checking account capable of receiving huge daily deposits.

I already made sure yours is ready here:
==>> Check it out here!

Click inside to activate this so your checking account
can receive deposits









If you wish to unsubscribed and stop receiving
updates, you can unsubscribe here

All Rights Reserved.

I actually saved it to text edit to see if my name was spelt wrong and it was 
not so you see my anxiety about this thing.

Kawal.



--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.

To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Accessible ftp client for mac.

[Nektarios Mallas]

Hi guys. 
Well, I tried transmit and indeed it works very well with voice over. 
It is rather on the expensive side for what I need, about $35, however it is 
much more than a simple client. 
I have a week to decide. 

Will see. 
Nektarios.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: How does one get to know your e-mail address?

[E.T.]

   Oh I do too but I hear more and more creative scams on the news. 
Latest one is virtual kidnapping. The woman this happened to said the 
caller warned her not to hang up but follow directions and her daughter 
would be safe. She was to drive to Western Union and send 10 grand in 
some form of currency that cannot be traced. He tracked her all the way, 
knew exactly where she was at any given moment. Of course her daughter 
had not been kidnapped and that 10 grand was gone forever.


   Another way that many people leave their doors wide open is to 
publish all their social media contacts in their sigs which reads like a 
big city phone directory.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/17/2016 2:25 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

Oh thanks ET.  Will delete it now.  I wish people didn't do this kind of thing.

On 17 Nov 2016, at 21:37, E.T.  wrote:

Kawal,
  This is phishing. Its a common ploy to steal one's information. Its also how 
the scumbugs plant their tools in one's computer so they can take it hostage 
and demand a ransom.

  The best defense is simply to be extremely skeptical. And delete these emails 
permanently as soon as you receive it.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/17/2016 1:28 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

Hi.

This is a bit off topic but I have to ask this question.

I received an e-mail today to my me account as I only use that account for 
personal things and you may know I use my alias for stuff like this list.

Well, today I received an e-mail today to my me account, I will put this e-mail 
below so you can see what I'm talking about.  Now I think this e-mail is junk 
as I am frightened to do what is asked on it although I'm tempted if it means 
you get ready cash but I'm scared.

But what I'd like to know, how on earth do people get your e-mail especially if 
you do not give it out?  This e-mail is below.  I'd like someone's opinion for 
some one to tell me is this junk as It is difficult to tell.

I hope everyone understands that I only do this kind of thing to get advice 
from anyone who is happy to give it to me and as Mark says that this is a list 
to share things because we are all in the same boat, Visually impaired which is 
not my favourite word as I'm totally blind so my vision can't be impaired.  So 
please forgive me for this.

Time sensitive...
By using this free method just once, you will need a
checking account capable of receiving huge daily deposits.

I already made sure yours is ready here:
==>> Check it out here!

Click inside to activate this so your checking account
can receive deposits









If you wish to unsubscribed and stop receiving
updates, you can unsubscribe here

All Rights Reserved.

I actually saved it to text edit to see if my name was spelt wrong and it was 
not so you see my anxiety about this thing.

Kawal.



--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.





--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.

To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more 

Re: How does one get to know your e-mail address?

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Oh thanks ET.  Will delete it now.  I wish people didn't do this kind of thing.
> On 17 Nov 2016, at 21:37, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> Kawal,
>   This is phishing. Its a common ploy to steal one's information. Its also 
> how the scumbugs plant their tools in one's computer so they can take it 
> hostage and demand a ransom.
> 
>   The best defense is simply to be extremely skeptical. And delete these 
> emails permanently as soon as you receive it.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 11/17/2016 1:28 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>> Hi.
>> 
>> This is a bit off topic but I have to ask this question.
>> 
>> I received an e-mail today to my me account as I only use that account for 
>> personal things and you may know I use my alias for stuff like this list.
>> 
>> Well, today I received an e-mail today to my me account, I will put this 
>> e-mail below so you can see what I'm talking about.  Now I think this e-mail 
>> is junk as I am frightened to do what is asked on it although I'm tempted if 
>> it means you get ready cash but I'm scared.
>> 
>> But what I'd like to know, how on earth do people get your e-mail especially 
>> if you do not give it out?  This e-mail is below.  I'd like someone's 
>> opinion for some one to tell me is this junk as It is difficult to tell.
>> 
>> I hope everyone understands that I only do this kind of thing to get advice 
>> from anyone who is happy to give it to me and as Mark says that this is a 
>> list to share things because we are all in the same boat, Visually impaired 
>> which is not my favourite word as I'm totally blind so my vision can't be 
>> impaired.  So please forgive me for this.
>> 
>> Time sensitive...
>> By using this free method just once, you will need a
>> checking account capable of receiving huge daily deposits.
>> 
>> I already made sure yours is ready here:
>> ==>> Check it out here!
>> 
>> Click inside to activate this so your checking account
>> can receive deposits
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> If you wish to unsubscribed and stop receiving
>> updates, you can unsubscribe here
>> 
>> All Rights Reserved.
>> 
>> I actually saved it to text edit to see if my name was spelt wrong and it 
>> was not so you see my anxiety about this thing.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> 
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: The control-G vm fusion question again

[E.T.]

Scott,
   I do not remember what version of Fusion I started with. I do not 
think the force grab function was brought over to version 8. It used to 
be on the Virtual Machine menu. I looked at version 8 release notes and 
found nothing.


   If we can find out what replaces the force grab, we might have 
solved it.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/17/2016 1:06 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

It does and I’ll do some googling on the command g feature, maybe I can shed 
some light on this by playing with it more myself.

Thanks as always ET.

And good comments from Janina this might be worth some communication with 
VMWare once I’m more confident it’s not the user behind my keyboard that’s the 
problem.:)


On Nov 17, 2016, at 4:03 PM, E.T.  wrote:

Scott,
  Ok here is what I think would be worth studying. I was just in my VM and my 
frustration level is still a bit high so will not run it again for now.

  Seems Command-G was on the menu when I first started using VMware. Its no 
longer there yet it seems to still work. I want to play with this a lot more 
though and confirm some suspicions. Its supposed to grab the heyboard away from 
the Mac.

  This may not work any more as lately I have found just pressing a wrong key 
or too long throws things around and I have trouble getting focused on the VM 
again.

  So perhaps Command-G really is not used any more. When I run the VM in full 
screen I am not interested in switching between Mac and Windows. Yet I want 
access to the menu bar. I have disabled the VM toolbar and mini bar. I think I 
have conflicts here though by inadvertently pressing Mac keystrokes.

  Did this make sense?

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/17/2016 12:42 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

I misspoke I meant command G not control G.  Command G doesn’t seem to do 
anything for me, maybe I’m using it at the wrong time, not sure.


On Nov 17, 2016, at 2:01 PM, E.T.  wrote:

Scott,
 I do not see that command in my list of shortcuts. When I load my VM and wait 
long enough to let Windows fully load. I press Cmd-G to grab the keyboard and 
then Cmd-Ctrl-F to enter full screen.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/17/2016 10:45 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

Hi, I wanted to confirm this.

When I run fusion and boot a VM, is it control-G that is supposed to allow me 
to gain access to the vm interface?  I just get a bonk sound when I press this 
combo and nothing happens.  In most cases, in full screen mode I can’t enter 
the VM and in zoom reduced mode I can but by tabbing past the snapshots button 
I will drop in to the vm.  Is there a more simple mechanism, do I have the 
keystroke wrong?  Any pointers would be most appreciated.

Thank you



--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.





--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit 

Re: How does one get to know your e-mail address?

[Kliphton Miller]

My rule of thumb is, if I don’t know the sender, then I don’t open it.  A lot 
of websites like PayPal, e-bay, and amazon have sellers, or people who know how 
to get a hold of mass email lists, and sends out this kind of stuff.
> On Nov 17, 2016, at 4:37 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> Kawal,
>   This is phishing. Its a common ploy to steal one's information. Its also 
> how the scumbugs plant their tools in one's computer so they can take it 
> hostage and demand a ransom.
> 
>   The best defense is simply to be extremely skeptical. And delete these 
> emails permanently as soon as you receive it.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 11/17/2016 1:28 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>> Hi.
>> 
>> This is a bit off topic but I have to ask this question.
>> 
>> I received an e-mail today to my me account as I only use that account for 
>> personal things and you may know I use my alias for stuff like this list.
>> 
>> Well, today I received an e-mail today to my me account, I will put this 
>> e-mail below so you can see what I'm talking about.  Now I think this e-mail 
>> is junk as I am frightened to do what is asked on it although I'm tempted if 
>> it means you get ready cash but I'm scared.
>> 
>> But what I'd like to know, how on earth do people get your e-mail especially 
>> if you do not give it out?  This e-mail is below.  I'd like someone's 
>> opinion for some one to tell me is this junk as It is difficult to tell.
>> 
>> I hope everyone understands that I only do this kind of thing to get advice 
>> from anyone who is happy to give it to me and as Mark says that this is a 
>> list to share things because we are all in the same boat, Visually impaired 
>> which is not my favourite word as I'm totally blind so my vision can't be 
>> impaired.  So please forgive me for this.
>> 
>> Time sensitive...
>> By using this free method just once, you will need a
>> checking account capable of receiving huge daily deposits.
>> 
>> I already made sure yours is ready here:
>> ==>> Check it out here!
>> 
>> Click inside to activate this so your checking account
>> can receive deposits
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> If you wish to unsubscribed and stop receiving
>> updates, you can unsubscribe here
>> 
>> All Rights Reserved.
>> 
>> I actually saved it to text edit to see if my name was spelt wrong and it 
>> was not so you see my anxiety about this thing.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> 
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: How does one get to know your e-mail address?

[E.T.]

Kawal,
   This is phishing. Its a common ploy to steal one's information. Its 
also how the scumbugs plant their tools in one's computer so they can 
take it hostage and demand a ransom.


   The best defense is simply to be extremely skeptical. And delete 
these emails permanently as soon as you receive it.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/17/2016 1:28 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

Hi.

This is a bit off topic but I have to ask this question.

I received an e-mail today to my me account as I only use that account for 
personal things and you may know I use my alias for stuff like this list.

Well, today I received an e-mail today to my me account, I will put this e-mail 
below so you can see what I'm talking about.  Now I think this e-mail is junk 
as I am frightened to do what is asked on it although I'm tempted if it means 
you get ready cash but I'm scared.

But what I'd like to know, how on earth do people get your e-mail especially if 
you do not give it out?  This e-mail is below.  I'd like someone's opinion for 
some one to tell me is this junk as It is difficult to tell.

I hope everyone understands that I only do this kind of thing to get advice 
from anyone who is happy to give it to me and as Mark says that this is a list 
to share things because we are all in the same boat, Visually impaired which is 
not my favourite word as I'm totally blind so my vision can't be impaired.  So 
please forgive me for this.

Time sensitive...
By using this free method just once, you will need a
checking account capable of receiving huge daily deposits.

I already made sure yours is ready here:
==>> Check it out here!

Click inside to activate this so your checking account
can receive deposits









If you wish to unsubscribed and stop receiving
updates, you can unsubscribe here

All Rights Reserved.

I actually saved it to text edit to see if my name was spelt wrong and it was 
not so you see my anxiety about this thing.

Kawal.



--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.

To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
<>

How does one get to know your e-mail address?

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Hi.

This is a bit off topic but I have to ask this question.

I received an e-mail today to my me account as I only use that account for 
personal things and you may know I use my alias for stuff like this list.

Well, today I received an e-mail today to my me account, I will put this e-mail 
below so you can see what I'm talking about.  Now I think this e-mail is junk 
as I am frightened to do what is asked on it although I'm tempted if it means 
you get ready cash but I'm scared.

But what I'd like to know, how on earth do people get your e-mail especially if 
you do not give it out?  This e-mail is below.  I'd like someone's opinion for 
some one to tell me is this junk as It is difficult to tell.

I hope everyone understands that I only do this kind of thing to get advice 
from anyone who is happy to give it to me and as Mark says that this is a list 
to share things because we are all in the same boat, Visually impaired which is 
not my favourite word as I'm totally blind so my vision can't be impaired.  So 
please forgive me for this.

Time sensitive...
By using this free method just once, you will need a 
checking account capable of receiving huge daily deposits.

I already made sure yours is ready here:
==>> Check it out here!

Click inside to activate this so your checking account 
can receive deposits









If you wish to unsubscribed and stop receiving
updates, you can unsubscribe here 

All Rights Reserved.

I actually saved it to text edit to see if my name was spelt wrong and it was 
not so you see my anxiety about this thing.

Kawal.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: The control-G vm fusion question again

[E.T.]

Scott,
   Ok here is what I think would be worth studying. I was just in my VM 
and my frustration level is still a bit high so will not run it again 
for now.


   Seems Command-G was on the menu when I first started using VMware. 
Its no longer there yet it seems to still work. I want to play with this 
a lot more though and confirm some suspicions. Its supposed to grab the 
heyboard away from the Mac.


   This may not work any more as lately I have found just pressing a 
wrong key or too long throws things around and I have trouble getting 
focused on the VM again.


   So perhaps Command-G really is not used any more. When I run the VM 
in full screen I am not interested in switching between Mac and Windows. 
Yet I want access to the menu bar. I have disabled the VM toolbar and 
mini bar. I think I have conflicts here though by inadvertently pressing 
Mac keystrokes.


   Did this make sense?

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/17/2016 12:42 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

I misspoke I meant command G not control G.  Command G doesn’t seem to do 
anything for me, maybe I’m using it at the wrong time, not sure.


On Nov 17, 2016, at 2:01 PM, E.T.  wrote:

Scott,
  I do not see that command in my list of shortcuts. When I load my VM and wait 
long enough to let Windows fully load. I press Cmd-G to grab the keyboard and 
then Cmd-Ctrl-F to enter full screen.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/17/2016 10:45 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

Hi, I wanted to confirm this.

When I run fusion and boot a VM, is it control-G that is supposed to allow me 
to gain access to the vm interface?  I just get a bonk sound when I press this 
combo and nothing happens.  In most cases, in full screen mode I can’t enter 
the VM and in zoom reduced mode I can but by tabbing past the snapshots button 
I will drop in to the vm.  Is there a more simple mechanism, do I have the 
keystroke wrong?  Any pointers would be most appreciated.

Thank you



--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.





--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.

To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
<>

Re: The control-G vm fusion question again

[Scott Granados]

It does and I’ll do some googling on the command g feature, maybe I can shed 
some light on this by playing with it more myself.

Thanks as always ET.

And good comments from Janina this might be worth some communication with 
VMWare once I’m more confident it’s not the user behind my keyboard that’s the 
problem.:)

> On Nov 17, 2016, at 4:03 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> Scott,
>   Ok here is what I think would be worth studying. I was just in my VM and my 
> frustration level is still a bit high so will not run it again for now.
> 
>   Seems Command-G was on the menu when I first started using VMware. Its no 
> longer there yet it seems to still work. I want to play with this a lot more 
> though and confirm some suspicions. Its supposed to grab the heyboard away 
> from the Mac.
> 
>   This may not work any more as lately I have found just pressing a wrong key 
> or too long throws things around and I have trouble getting focused on the VM 
> again.
> 
>   So perhaps Command-G really is not used any more. When I run the VM in full 
> screen I am not interested in switching between Mac and Windows. Yet I want 
> access to the menu bar. I have disabled the VM toolbar and mini bar. I think 
> I have conflicts here though by inadvertently pressing Mac keystrokes.
> 
>   Did this make sense?
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 11/17/2016 12:42 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> I misspoke I meant command G not control G.  Command G doesn’t seem to do 
>> anything for me, maybe I’m using it at the wrong time, not sure.
>> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2016, at 2:01 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Scott,
>>>  I do not see that command in my list of shortcuts. When I load my VM and 
>>> wait long enough to let Windows fully load. I press Cmd-G to grab the 
>>> keyboard and then Cmd-Ctrl-F to enter full screen.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Without H2O there is no life!
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 11/17/2016 10:45 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 Hi, I wanted to confirm this.
 
 When I run fusion and boot a VM, is it control-G that is supposed to allow 
 me to gain access to the vm interface?  I just get a bonk sound when I 
 press this combo and nothing happens.  In most cases, in full screen mode 
 I can’t enter the VM and in zoom reduced mode I can but by tabbing past 
 the snapshots button I will drop in to the vm.  Is there a more simple 
 mechanism, do I have the keystroke wrong?  Any pointers would be most 
 appreciated.
 
 Thank you
 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>>> Visionaries list.
>>> 
>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners 
>>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>> 
>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at: 
>>>  macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - 
>>> you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>> 
>>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>>> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>> 
>> 
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the 

Re: Alert! Fake email from Apple

[Scott Granados]

Just to be clear exactly how important this topic is and how careful people 
should be, this is how the hackers were able to gain access to John Podesta’s 
email and leak many of Hilary’s email transactions.  They seemed to have gotten 
other administration folks this way as well.  What this illustrates is how 
important it is to know where that link is going that you clink on, Janina 
makes a very strong point.  It also demonstrates the importance of 2factor 
authentication.  If Mr. Podesta or others in the administration had 2factor 
enabled the emails would have remained secure most likely.  With 2factor, even 
if the password is compromised the bad guy can’t get in with out having access 
to your other devices like your phone.  It’s an extra step that adds a ton of 
security to your services with out much work.  Be careful out there.
 

> On Nov 17, 2016, at 2:44 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Another great, and very reliable way to distinguish the malware from the
> genuine article is to examine the link they want you to click. If it
> doesn't end with "apple.com," it's most likely bogus, though Apple does
> maintain other domains, e.g. icloud.com.
> 
> I like to report these kinds of phishing attacks. I keep a short list of
> specific addresses that major companies who are frequent targets of such
> attacks have setup for recieving these kinds of reports. I have
> addresses for PayPal and for the IRS. In this instance the correct
> address to forward this kind of mail is:
> 
> ab...@icloud.com
> 
> You do want to forward, as they will need to examine the email's
> header--its metadata.
> 
> PS: It's something very much like this that compromised John Podesta's
> email that was so much in the news during the U.S. election. He was
> fooled by one of these "man in the middle" attacks that got him to
> reveal his gmail password.
> 
> Janina
> 
> Andrew Lamanche writes:
>> Hi Everyone,
>> 
>> I’ve just received two fake emails with the Subject line "Apple Service ID 
>> unlock it now before you lose it”.  This sort of thing has happened before.  
>> The email tells me that my icloud account associated with itunes is going to 
>> be locked unless I follow the link in the email.  When I read the content 
>> carefully, the grammar of the email is one of the obvious giveaways.  
>> Besides the content is all in a table - another odd thing about it.  Be 
>> cautious, everyone.
>> 
>> best wishes
>> 
>> 
>> Andrew !
>> 
>> -- 
>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>> Visionaries list.
>> 
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>> 
>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
>> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
>> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>> 
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>> --- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Janina Sajka, Phone:  +1.443.300.2200
>   sip:jan...@asterisk.rednote.net
>   Email:  jan...@rednote.net
> 
> Linux Foundation Fellow
> Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org
> 
> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
> Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures  http://www.w3.org/wai/apa
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group 

Re: The control-G vm fusion question again

[Scott Granados]

I misspoke I meant command G not control G.  Command G doesn’t seem to do 
anything for me, maybe I’m using it at the wrong time, not sure.

> On Nov 17, 2016, at 2:01 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> Scott,
>   I do not see that command in my list of shortcuts. When I load my VM and 
> wait long enough to let Windows fully load. I press Cmd-G to grab the 
> keyboard and then Cmd-Ctrl-F to enter full screen.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 11/17/2016 10:45 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> Hi, I wanted to confirm this.
>> 
>> When I run fusion and boot a VM, is it control-G that is supposed to allow 
>> me to gain access to the vm interface?  I just get a bonk sound when I press 
>> this combo and nothing happens.  In most cases, in full screen mode I can’t 
>> enter the VM and in zoom reduced mode I can but by tabbing past the 
>> snapshots button I will drop in to the vm.  Is there a more simple 
>> mechanism, do I have the keystroke wrong?  Any pointers would be most 
>> appreciated.
>> 
>> Thank you
>> 
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Accessible ftp client for the mac.

[jeff `greene]

Hi I use Transmit and love it. It is very accessible with Voiceover. I
don't remember how much it costs but if you do a google search for it
you'll sometimes find coupon codes to save money.
Hope this helps! Jeff


On 11/17/16, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> For a GUI option, take a look at Transmit.  Totally accessible, unless
> they've broken it in the latest version.
>
> Later...
>
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>
> On Nov 17, 2016, at 12:00, Nektarios Mallas  wrote:
>
> Thanks for that.
> I will definitely take a look.
> Nektarios.
>
>> On 17 Nov 2016, at 20:43, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Nektarios Mallas  wrote:
>>> Well, i’ d rather not.  As much as I used to work with Unix in the past,
>>> I
>>> was really hoping for an accessible graphical user interface for this
>>> task.
>>> I really don’ t want to have to type long file names.
>>
>>
>> With lftp, you get tab completion, so you don't have to type long file
>> names.
>>
>> --
>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac
>> Visionaries list.
>>
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>
>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark
>> at:  macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara
>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>> ---
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>
> --
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac
> Visionaries list.
>
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:
> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you
> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> ---
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>
> --
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac
> Visionaries list.
>
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:
> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you
> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> ---
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the 

Re: The control-G vm fusion question again

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

I have never found a reliable way to get into and outof the guest vm.
For me this is a significant frustration.
To
my mind this functionality is a feature we should demand of VMware. I'm
not sure where to file the RFE, but if someone knows or posts one,
please share so that others of us can add our support for the request.

Janina

Chris Moore writes:
> ScottI don’t know about control + g.  What sometimes helps is to switch to 
> full screen mode with cmd + control + f.  Then turn it off with the same 
> keystroke.  I also tend to disable voiceover once I am safely in the VM with 
> cmd + control followed by cmd + f5.
> 
> HTH
> Chris
> > On Nov 17, 2016, at 1:45 PM, Scott Granados  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > Hi, I wanted to confirm this.
> > 
> > When I run fusion and boot a VM, is it control-G that is supposed to allow 
> > me to gain access to the vm interface?  I just get a bonk sound when I 
> > press this combo and nothing happens.  In most cases, in full screen mode I 
> > can’t enter the VM and in zoom reduced mode I can but by tabbing past the 
> > snapshots button I will drop in to the vm.  Is there a more simple 
> > mechanism, do I have the keystroke wrong?  Any pointers would be most 
> > appreciated.
> > 
> > Thank you
> > 
> > -- 
> > The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
> > Visionaries list.
> > 
> > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners 
> > or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> > 
> > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at: 
> >  macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - 
> > you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> > 
> > The archives for this list can be searched at:
> > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> > --- 
> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> > "MacVisionaries" group.
> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 

Janina Sajka,   Phone:  +1.443.300.2200
sip:jan...@asterisk.rednote.net
Email:  jan...@rednote.net

Linux Foundation Fellow
Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:   http://a11y.org

The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
Chair, Accessible Platform Architectureshttp://www.w3.org/wai/apa

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Alert! Fake email from Apple

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

Another great, and very reliable way to distinguish the malware from the
genuine article is to examine the link they want you to click. If it
doesn't end with "apple.com," it's most likely bogus, though Apple does
maintain other domains, e.g. icloud.com.

I like to report these kinds of phishing attacks. I keep a short list of
specific addresses that major companies who are frequent targets of such
attacks have setup for recieving these kinds of reports. I have
addresses for PayPal and for the IRS. In this instance the correct
address to forward this kind of mail is:

ab...@icloud.com

You do want to forward, as they will need to examine the email's
header--its metadata.

PS: It's something very much like this that compromised John Podesta's
email that was so much in the news during the U.S. election. He was
fooled by one of these "man in the middle" attacks that got him to
reveal his gmail password.

Janina

Andrew Lamanche writes:
> Hi Everyone,
> 
> I’ve just received two fake emails with the Subject line "Apple Service ID 
> unlock it now before you lose it”.  This sort of thing has happened before.  
> The email tells me that my icloud account associated with itunes is going to 
> be locked unless I follow the link in the email.  When I read the content 
> carefully, the grammar of the email is one of the obvious giveaways.  Besides 
> the content is all in a table - another odd thing about it.  Be cautious, 
> everyone.
> 
> best wishes
> 
> 
> Andrew !
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 

Janina Sajka,   Phone:  +1.443.300.2200
sip:jan...@asterisk.rednote.net
Email:  jan...@rednote.net

Linux Foundation Fellow
Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:   http://a11y.org

The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
Chair, Accessible Platform Architectureshttp://www.w3.org/wai/apa

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Accessible ftp client for the mac.

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

For a GUI option, take a look at Transmit.  Totally accessible, unless they've 
broken it in the latest version.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 17, 2016, at 12:00, Nektarios Mallas  wrote:

Thanks for that.
I will definitely take a look. 
Nektarios.

> On 17 Nov 2016, at 20:43, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Nektarios Mallas  wrote:
>> Well, i’ d rather not.  As much as I used to work with Unix in the past, I
>> was really hoping for an accessible graphical user interface for this task.
>> I really don’ t want to have to type long file names.  
> 
> 
> With lftp, you get tab completion, so you don't have to type long file names.
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: The control-G vm fusion question again

[E.T.]

Scott,
   I do not see that command in my list of shortcuts. When I load my VM 
and wait long enough to let Windows fully load. I press Cmd-G to grab 
the keyboard and then Cmd-Ctrl-F to enter full screen.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/17/2016 10:45 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

Hi, I wanted to confirm this.

When I run fusion and boot a VM, is it control-G that is supposed to allow me 
to gain access to the vm interface?  I just get a bonk sound when I press this 
combo and nothing happens.  In most cases, in full screen mode I can’t enter 
the VM and in zoom reduced mode I can but by tabbing past the snapshots button 
I will drop in to the vm.  Is there a more simple mechanism, do I have the 
keystroke wrong?  Any pointers would be most appreciated.

Thank you



--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.

To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
<>

Re: Accessible ftp client for the mac.

[Nektarios Mallas]

Thanks for that.
I will definitely take a look. 
Nektarios.

> On 17 Nov 2016, at 20:43, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Nektarios Mallas  wrote:
>> Well, i’ d rather not.  As much as I used to work with Unix in the past, I
>> was really hoping for an accessible graphical user interface for this task.
>> I really don’ t want to have to type long file names.  
> 
> 
> With lftp, you get tab completion, so you don't have to type long file names.
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: The control-G vm fusion question again

[Chris Moore]

ScottI don’t know about control + g.  What sometimes helps is to switch to full 
screen mode with cmd + control + f.  Then turn it off with the same keystroke.  
I also tend to disable voiceover once I am safely in the VM with cmd + control 
followed by cmd + f5.

HTH
Chris
> On Nov 17, 2016, at 1:45 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Hi, I wanted to confirm this.
> 
> When I run fusion and boot a VM, is it control-G that is supposed to allow me 
> to gain access to the vm interface?  I just get a bonk sound when I press 
> this combo and nothing happens.  In most cases, in full screen mode I can’t 
> enter the VM and in zoom reduced mode I can but by tabbing past the snapshots 
> button I will drop in to the vm.  Is there a more simple mechanism, do I have 
> the keystroke wrong?  Any pointers would be most appreciated.
> 
> Thank you
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: A question about the Sonos

[Kristeen Hughes]

This post was extremely helpful and well-written. Thank you for it.

Kristeen

> On Nov 13, 2016, at 5:36 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Yes. Absolutely you can.
> 
> 1. In the app, near the top of the screen, you'll find a button that is 
> labeled with the name of the room that is currently playing. If you've 
> grouped multiple rooms, it will be labeled with the name of all grouped 
> rooms. For example, in my case, I hear Studio and bedroom. Double tap on this 
> button.
> 
> 2.  Now, in the bottom of the screen, you'll see a button that says room 
> settings. Double tap on this.
> 
> 3.  Now, find the room for the speaker you want to adjust the base and 
> trebble. Double tap on it.
> 
> 4.  In this screen, you should find a few things. Trueplay, which basically 
> calebrates the speaker via means of test tones being played. This process is 
> 100% accessible. It didn't used to be, but I got ahold of them, and worked 
> very very extensively with them, and though I cannot clame that it was me who 
> made it accessible, I think I probably had a huge part to do with it. You 
> also under here have settings for compression on or off, reducing loudness, 
> and your base/trebble, all of which are accessible.
> 
> As for volume, the play5 is a little weird. Let me try explaining this.
> 
> Take your hand on the front of the speaker grill on the front face of the 
> speaker bezil. In the top center, you're going to feel a raised engraving bit 
> of print letters. Note, this only is applicable to the Play5. I'll explain 
> the Play 1 and 3 in a second.  OK, so get yourself oriented with that emblum. 
> It's going to be magic key to getting this to work.
> 
> On the print raised label, move your finger up from the front face bezil 
> right to the top of the unit. Let your finger glide off the front of your 
> unit over the top edge until it rests right on the top of the speaker right 
> there aligned with where that printed label would be on the front speaker 
> grill. There is a small little window there. This is a touch pannel, but 
> don't worry. This is very very very very very easy once you know where that 
> print label is. You're gonna use that as home base to line yourself up. There 
> are only 3 items on this touch screen, and they are not context sensitive. 
> They always no matter what will be the same. They never ever ever change. 
> So... on the left side of the window is volume down. On the right side is 
> volume up. In the very center is play/pause. So if you can take your finger 
> on the front faced print logo, then just slide your finger up off the front, 
> over to the top of the unit, your finger should glide right over the window 
> on the area you need to touch. This sounds maybe a little tricky, but I 
> swear. It's not. It's really easy. I was able in the Best Buy store to 
> consistently get this to work the very first try. It's really really not hard 
> once you know where that print label is, and no this little trick.
> 
> The play 1 and 3's are a little different. On them, there is no touch screen. 
> There are physical buttons.
> 
> You will notice that you have a long virtical bar on the top of the speaker, 
> just a little offset to the left from the bottom center of the top of the 
> unit.  Actually, I'm wrong, I just looked at mine. It's not offset. It's 
> actually dead smack center. This is the volume. Obviously the bar is a rocker 
> button. The top part will turn it up with each press, and the bottom part 
> turns it down. Just above this is a small square button. It's about the size 
> of the pad of your finger. This is play/pause.
> 
> Two things to note. ON the Play5, in the back of the speaker, where your 
> power cord and your line in jack and what not is, there is a small little 
> button. This is the connect button. When connecting the speaker to your 
> controller, you'll be asked to hit the connect button. This is the button 
> they're talking about.
> 
> On the Play1 and Play3, what you're gonna do is, you're gonna press the 
> volume up, and the play/pause buttons at the same time, don't hold them in. 
> Just press and release. You're not gonna hold the connect button either on 
> the play5, just push and release, by the way. No holding necessary.  You 
> should hear then a small little chime tone through the speaker, which will 
> indicate you did it correctly, and the controller software should then 
> progress automatically to the next step in the setup process.
> 
> One more thing. When a song is playing, on either the play1 or play 5, as 
> well as the play 3, double pressing, or in the case of the play 5, tapping, 
> the play pause button will advance to the next song, if anything is in the 
> queue. The queue gets slightly more advanced, so I won't cover that here, but 
> generally, doing this will get you to the next track.
> 
> On iOS, to turn up and down the volume, near the bottom of the screen, you'll 
> find a 

The control-G vm fusion question again

[Scott Granados]

Hi, I wanted to confirm this.

When I run fusion and boot a VM, is it control-G that is supposed to allow me 
to gain access to the vm interface?  I just get a bonk sound when I press this 
combo and nothing happens.  In most cases, in full screen mode I can’t enter 
the VM and in zoom reduced mode I can but by tabbing past the snapshots button 
I will drop in to the vm.  Is there a more simple mechanism, do I have the 
keystroke wrong?  Any pointers would be most appreciated.

Thank you

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Accessible ftp client for the mac.

[Karen Lewellen]

very much Scott, thanks for providing that information.
Shellworld is a Linux /UNIX  shell service.  Currently I can log in here 
not from  windows,  and have access to all the things I store and use as 
part  of the service.
I had wondered, if I ever manage a workable mac environment , How I would 
still  reach my workspace.

 Nice to know it would be an effortless situation.
Cheers,
Kare


On Thu, 17 Nov 2016, Scott Granados wrote:


Hi Kare, yes pretty much it does.  You drop in to a window with a prompt 
reminiscent of the old windows days for folks non familiar but with a unix type 
prompt instead and a bash shell.  The voice stays the same and the features 
pretty much stay the same.  I like it, others run a virtual environment like 
ubuntu and use that instead but for me this works out pretty well.

Hope that helps.


On Nov 17, 2016, at 1:14 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

Scott,
may I ask a silly question...perhaps?
Does voiceover  work the same in terminal mode as it does with the rest of the  
 system?
meaning your functionality, voice choices, remain when you are in terminal?
thanks,
Kare


On Thu, 17 Nov 2016, Scott Granados wrote:


Remember with the Mac you have the full compliment of unix tools.  You can go 
to terminal and use the good old ftp client ftp.  Also SCP and the complete 
suite of ssh tools are also available for remote login and moving files.

Hope that helps.



On Nov 17, 2016, at 12:30 PM, Nektarios Mallas  wrote:

Hi guys.
Well, the subject says it all. I need an FTP client that will work well with 
voice over.
In windows many years ago, I used to use filezella and it was working very well 
with jaws.
Any help is very much appreciated.

Nektarios.

--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.




--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Accessible ftp client for the mac.

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

Nektarios Mallas  wrote:
> Well, i’ d rather not.  As much as I used to work with Unix in the past, I
> was really hoping for an accessible graphical user interface for this task.
> I really don’ t want to have to type long file names.  


With lftp, you get tab completion, so you don't have to type long file names.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: A question about the Sonos

[Kristeen Hughes]

I appreciate all of the great posts on this subject.

It does work beautifully on my iPhone, and it also works well using a line in 
cable from the Mac mini.

Thanks again.

Kristeen

> On Nov 13, 2016, at 5:15 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> You are in good hands, my friend! I use Sonos products so extensively, I'm 
> literally a private beta tester. I can't really say much more than that 
> however regarding that fact. However, in regards to your question, the Sonos 
> app is not very speech friendly with voiceover on the Mac. This said, do you 
> have an iOS device, or a Windows device? If so, you have two sollutions, both 
> of which are 100% accessible.
> 
> First off, you can install the Sonos Controller iOS app. It is totally 
> totally accessible! Secondly, you can go to:
> 
> http://www.sonos.com
> 
> and download the Windows PC version of the Sonos controller. Then, you'll 
> also need to go to:
> 
> http://www.hartgen.org/sonos
> 
> and get the free JAWS scripts that Brian wrote for the controller. They're 
> not required, but they'll definitely help tremendously.
> 
> Actually, you even have a 3rd option, come to think of it. You also can use 
> the controller app through Android e with any of the screen readers over 
> there like Talkback, Spiel, Shine, Voice Assist, etc. There might even be an 
> app for the Kindle Fire, but not sure. If you have an Amazon Alexa Echo, you 
> even can control the speakers with your voice.
> 
> You also may want to go to
> 
> http://www.mosen.org
> 
> Jonathan Mosen has written a book which is very very reasonably priced, and 
> very very very worth it, which will explain every single aspect of the Sonos 
> system. After reading the book cover to cover in one day, I was so freaking 
> hooked/convinced, that I went that very day, practically begging! my 
> grandmother to take me to Best Buy to pick up a set of Play1's. It was 
> probably one of the best investments I've ever made!
> 
> Cristine, if you'd like to do so, this is my work number, but it rings at all 
> hours of the day to my home office. I'll be here all tonight, and all 
> tomorrow, so feel free to call me if you'd like to discuss this further via 
> voice. I'd be tickled to death to help you with this! Again, this number 
> already is very much public knowledge, so it's not like I'm giving out 
> personal info on list. It's in my signature anyway, so it's not like people 
> can't already get it.
> 
> You can call me at: 704-256-8010, Then choose option 1 from the IVR. If you 
> don't get me, leave me a voicemail with a number, and I'll call you back. I'm 
> on eastern time, and there is no time which is most convenient. Just call 
> whenever.
> 
> Please don't return the speaker though. I cross my heart we can get you up 
> and running! If you return, you'll definitely regret in the long run. Hell, 
> I'd kill! for a set of play5's, but they weren't in my budget at the time.
> ---
> Christopher Gilland
> JAWS Certified, 2016.
> Training Instructor.
> 
> i...@gillandmarketing.com
> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
> - Original Message - From: "Kristeen Hughes" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 9:10 PM
> Subject: A question about the Sonos
> 
> 
> I just got a Sonos Player: 5. I have installed the Sonos software, but it 
> seems very visual and I can do nothing with it. It appears to have added my 
> music, but all I see are images and I’m wondering how to actually make it 
> work. It is testing my stupidity levels right now and finding them high.
> 
> Kristeen
> 
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at: 
> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly 

Re: Accessible ftp client for the mac.

[Scott Granados]

Hi Kare, yes pretty much it does.  You drop in to a window with a prompt 
reminiscent of the old windows days for folks non familiar but with a unix type 
prompt instead and a bash shell.  The voice stays the same and the features 
pretty much stay the same.  I like it, others run a virtual environment like 
ubuntu and use that instead but for me this works out pretty well.

Hope that helps.

> On Nov 17, 2016, at 1:14 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> 
> Scott,
> may I ask a silly question...perhaps?
> Does voiceover  work the same in terminal mode as it does with the rest of 
> the   system?
> meaning your functionality, voice choices, remain when you are in terminal?
> thanks,
> Kare
> 
> 
> On Thu, 17 Nov 2016, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> Remember with the Mac you have the full compliment of unix tools.  You can 
>> go to terminal and use the good old ftp client ftp.  Also SCP and the 
>> complete suite of ssh tools are also available for remote login and moving 
>> files.
>> 
>> Hope that helps.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2016, at 12:30 PM, Nektarios Mallas  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi guys.
>>> Well, the subject says it all. I need an FTP client that will work well 
>>> with voice over.
>>> In windows many years ago, I used to use filezella and it was working very 
>>> well with jaws.
>>> Any help is very much appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Nektarios.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>>> Visionaries list.
>>> 
>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners 
>>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>> 
>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at: 
>>>  macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - 
>>> you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>> 
>>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>>> ---
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>> 
>> -- 
>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>> Visionaries list.
>> 
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>> 
>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
>> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
>> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>> 
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>> ---
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>> 
>> 

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Accessible ftp client for the mac.

[Karen Lewellen]

Scott,
may I ask a silly question...perhaps?
Does voiceover  work the same in terminal mode as it does with the rest of 
the   system?
meaning your functionality, voice choices, remain when you are in 
terminal?

thanks,
Kare


On Thu, 17 Nov 2016, Scott Granados wrote:


Remember with the Mac you have the full compliment of unix tools.  You can go 
to terminal and use the good old ftp client ftp.  Also SCP and the complete 
suite of ssh tools are also available for remote login and moving files.

Hope that helps.



On Nov 17, 2016, at 12:30 PM, Nektarios Mallas  wrote:

Hi guys.
Well, the subject says it all. I need an FTP client that will work well with 
voice over.
In windows many years ago, I used to use filezella and it was working very well 
with jaws.
Any help is very much appreciated.

Nektarios.

--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Accessible ftp client for the mac.

[Nektarios Mallas]

Hi Scott. 
Well, i’ d rather not. 
As much as I used to work with Unix in the past, I was really hoping for an 
accessible graphical user interface for this task. 
I really don’ t want to have to type long file names. 
Thanks any way. 

Nektarios.

> On 17 Nov 2016, at 19:40, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Remember with the Mac you have the full compliment of unix tools.  You can go 
> to terminal and use the good old ftp client ftp.  Also SCP and the complete 
> suite of ssh tools are also available for remote login and moving files.
> 
> Hope that helps.
> 
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2016, at 12:30 PM, Nektarios Mallas  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi guys.
>> Well, the subject says it all. I need an FTP client that will work well with 
>> voice over. 
>> In windows many years ago, I used to use filezella and it was working very 
>> well with jaws. 
>> Any help is very much appreciated. 
>> 
>> Nektarios.
>> 
>> -- 
>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>> Visionaries list.
>> 
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>> 
>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
>> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
>> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>> 
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>> --- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Accessible ftp client for the mac.

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

Nektarios Mallas  wrote:
> Well, the subject says it all. I need an FTP client that will work well with
> voice over.  

lftp will definitely work. You should be able to install it by first
installing HomeBrew, then installing the lftp package. Finally, run it from a
terminal. The cls command is the most convenient way to obtain a list of files
in a directory.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Accessible ftp client for the mac.

[Scott Granados]

Remember with the Mac you have the full compliment of unix tools.  You can go 
to terminal and use the good old ftp client ftp.  Also SCP and the complete 
suite of ssh tools are also available for remote login and moving files.

Hope that helps.
 

> On Nov 17, 2016, at 12:30 PM, Nektarios Mallas  wrote:
> 
> Hi guys.
> Well, the subject says it all. I need an FTP client that will work well with 
> voice over. 
> In windows many years ago, I used to use filezella and it was working very 
> well with jaws. 
> Any help is very much appreciated. 
> 
> Nektarios.
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Accessible ftp client for the mac.

[Nektarios Mallas]

Hi guys.
Well, the subject says it all. I need an FTP client that will work well with 
voice over. 
In windows many years ago, I used to use filezella and it was working very well 
with jaws. 
Any help is very much appreciated. 

Nektarios.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: KNFB Reader on Iphone

[Cameron Strife]

I really like the sounds on that board but how do you find it as far
as ease of use goes without being able to read the display? I assume
there is no accessible editor/librarian like there is with the Yamaha
Motif series...



On 11/17/16, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> Hi!
> It does not read my roland FA 08 keyboard screen.
> Sadly.
> /A
>> 16 nov. 2016 kl. 07:41 skrev Simon Fogarty :
>>
>> Yeah use my KNFB reader all the time for reading notebook screans and if
>> needed my desktop screan.
>>
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> ] On Behalf Of becky knaub
>> Sent: Wednesday, 16 November 2016 2:27 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> 
>> Subject: Re: KNFB Reader on Iphone
>>
>> Hi,
>> I'm not sure if it will or not. Sometimes things like that will but if
>> there's any kind of glare or anything it won't. I would suggest if you
>> need to read the computer screen using TapTapSee, Be My Eyes or
>> BeSpecular. I have used TapTapSee and Be My Eyes to read things on the
>> computer that VoiceOver wasn't reading.
>>
>> Becky and Hazel
>>
>> On Nov 15, 2016, at 6:56 AM, Scott Granados > > wrote:
>>
>> I have had luck with this as well as reading screens of devices with
>> dedicated LCD or LED screens that don’t have any sort of accessibility
>> features.
>>
>> To be honest, KNFB reader always surprises me with what it actually reads.
>>  The iPhone 7+ does a very good job as well but I’ve had remarkable
>> results from the 6 forward.
>>
>>
>> On Nov 15, 2016, at 3:16 AM, Ramy Moustafa > > wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>> of cores everyone is searching to  find the best accessibility tools
>> to help surviving in life, and I read about the KNFB reader on Iphone,
>> the only thing that will make me buy it is, does it read the computer
>> screen, if I  found something that I could not read with Voice over?
>> this is the most important part for me. because,  the KNFB reader will
>> not read Arabic, but if it can read the computer screen, I will buy it
>> now.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> --
>> Ramy MoustafaSaber
>> Music instructor @:
>> Faculty ofmusical education
>> Music arranger and Sound engineer @:
>> Harmony Recording Studio
>> https://www.facebook.com/HarmonyRecordingStudio.eg
>> 
>>
>> --
>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac
>> Visionaries list.
>>
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>
>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark
>> at:  macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com
>>  and your owner is Cara
>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>> 
>>
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>> 
>> ---
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
>> .
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> .
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries
>> .
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout
>> .
>>
>> --
>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac
>> Visionaries list.
>>
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>
>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark
>> at:  macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com
>>  and your owner is Cara
>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>> 
>>
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>> 
>> ---
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group 

Re: Amadeus Pro from app store or not?

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Ok.
Thanks for that one.
/A
> 16 nov. 2016 kl. 21:00 skrev Rachel Feinberg :
> 
> You'll want the version from the website. The app store version, because of 
> Apple's "sanboxing" approach to apps, takes away  some functionality. Such as 
> being able to save in some formats, or missing some options.
> Rachel.
> 
>> On Nov 16, 2016, at 11:34 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I am going to buy the amadeus pro version but need to know whats the 
>> differences between the one from app store and the one from their site?
>> I know i can convert the license but if i can get the most out of the one 
>> version from appStore i get that one because the easyness with payment and 
>> such.
>> Thanks in Advance.
>> /A
>> 
>> -- 
>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>> Visionaries list.
>> 
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>> 
>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
>> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
>> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>> 
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>> --- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: KNFB Reader on Iphone

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
It does not read my roland FA 08 keyboard screen.
Sadly.
/A
> 16 nov. 2016 kl. 07:41 skrev Simon Fogarty :
> 
> Yeah use my KNFB reader all the time for reading notebook screans and if 
> needed my desktop screan.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>  
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> ] On Behalf Of becky knaub
> Sent: Wednesday, 16 November 2016 2:27 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: KNFB Reader on Iphone
>  
> Hi,
> I'm not sure if it will or not. Sometimes things like that will but if 
> there's any kind of glare or anything it won't. I would suggest if you need 
> to read the computer screen using TapTapSee, Be My Eyes or BeSpecular. I have 
> used TapTapSee and Be My Eyes to read things on the computer that VoiceOver 
> wasn't reading.
> 
> Becky and Hazel
> 
> On Nov 15, 2016, at 6:56 AM, Scott Granados  > wrote:
> 
> I have had luck with this as well as reading screens of devices with 
> dedicated LCD or LED screens that don’t have any sort of accessibility 
> features.
> 
> To be honest, KNFB reader always surprises me with what it actually reads.  
> The iPhone 7+ does a very good job as well but I’ve had remarkable results 
> from the 6 forward.
> 
> 
> On Nov 15, 2016, at 3:16 AM, Ramy Moustafa  > wrote:
>  
> Hello,
> of cores everyone is searching to  find the best accessibility tools
> to help surviving in life, and I read about the KNFB reader on Iphone,
> the only thing that will make me buy it is, does it read the computer
> screen, if I  found something that I could not read with Voice over?
> this is the most important part for me. because,  the KNFB reader will
> not read Arabic, but if it can read the computer screen, I will buy it
> now.
>  
> Thanks
>  
>  
> -- 
> Ramy MoustafaSaber
> Music instructor @:
> Faculty ofmusical education
> Music arranger and Sound engineer @:
> Harmony Recording Studio
> https://www.facebook.com/HarmonyRecordingStudio.eg 
> 
>  
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
>  
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>  
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com 
>  and your owner is Cara 
> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com 
> 
>  
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ 
> 
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
> .
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> .
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries 
> .
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout 
> .
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com 
>  and your owner is Cara 
> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com 
> 
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ 
> 
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
> .
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> .
> Visit this group at 

Re: Another phenominal story to tell you all about Apple Accessibility!

[E.T.]

   Heh. Its been ages, last I remember him was a TV ad I think for 
carpet. All you could see was his head on top of the floor and probably 
saying something being walked on.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/17/2016 8:15 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

I always new I liked you E.T.  Don Rickles is the man.

I saw him open for Frank at Foxwoods Casino when I was much younger.

:)


On Nov 17, 2016, at 11:13 AM, E.T.  wrote:

  That was somewhat a tongue in cheek comment. Think Don Rickles.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/17/2016 7:55 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

I’m not sure why there wouldn’t be hope for Apple, this is pretty common 
behavior although you’d have to be pretty odd to be ripping off parts of the 
tray that’s already installed.  I can sort of understand how this might happen 
though as sometimes the components feel different than you might imagine but in 
general, if I don’t know what it is I don’t rip it off.;)


On Nov 17, 2016, at 10:45 AM, E.T.  wrote:

 There is hope for Apple yet. (shakes head in wonderment)

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/17/2016 12:53 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Guys, once again, Apple has done it! They have exceeded my expectations
by far! I'm very very impressed!

So, here's the medium length version of the Sauga.

I have two iPhones, a 7+, and a 6S.

What I wanted to do was, I wanted to take the sim cards, and reverse
them. So the 6S goes in the 7+, the 7+ goes in the 6S. Basically a phone
number swap.

What happened was, for some reason, I don't know if the sim tray was
crooked or what, but it wasn't seating  flushed with the bezil of the
phone. So, I slid the tray out all the way into my hand, and really
examined the tray closely with no sim lying in it. What I noticed was,
on the end opisit from what goes first slidden into the phone, there was
this really el cheapo dinky dank little thing that felt like the
protective plastic thin film that would go over the screen of a phone
during packaging to protect it. The best way I can describe it is, it
felt like really really really thin filmy wax paper, or maybe like

really thin cellophan. I was like, what on earth? um, why would

cellophane be on the tray down inside the sim slot stuck to the tray?
Don't tell me at Best buy, they didn't see this and forgot to remove
it.  Well, no worries. Well? yeah, worries! Oopsy doodles, Me bwoke it
weel good! Basically, thinking that was

cellophane, what did little Crissy dumb nut do? You guessed it!  Yank? I
tore the thing right off. I'm like it's just

cellophane, so who cares!



Well? I later found out, so guys with iPhone 7 and 7 pluses, beware of
this, that's not actually

cellophane! Don't pull it off, whatever the heck you do! That film is a
very thin rubbery bumpber/gasket which basically helps the sim card tray
to slide in totally aligned straight/flat. If you tear it off, you just
rendered that sim tray utterly useless.



So long story short, I called Apple Accessibility and told them I was
having issues.  Through describing to them what I did, and what
initially happened before doing so, and what happened now that I did! do
so, they were able to conclude what I'd done, and explained to me about
that little rubber piece. They took my feedback and sent to engineers
regarding this, as to a blind person, that's really kind a a bad way to
make that sim tray. I mean, the tray from my 6S doesn't have one of
those rubber pieces, and it fits both my phones perfectly! So, why add
that bumper? Don't fix it if it ain't a problem to start with. I liked
it better on the 6S, 6S+, 6, and 6S, how there are! no pieces like that
on the tray. It just is what it is, a tray.



They said I'm by far not the first person's who's done this to their
7/7+ tray, and were very very willing to own up to it being their falt
for confusing design, especially if you can't visually see what it is
you're pulling to know what it isn't. They were so sorry for this, that
they agreed even to send me out not 1, but two! 6S doors, and! two 7+
doors. so I'd have some spares. They're not even charging me a penny either!



To me, that really shows that they get it. They really do understand how
this potentially is a bigtime problem that needs to be dealt with in
their making assemblyline.



Go Apple!



Chris.

--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac
Visionaries list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark
at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara
Quinn - you can reach Cara at 

Re: Another phenominal story to tell you all about Apple Accessibility!

[Scott Granados]

I always new I liked you E.T.  Don Rickles is the man.

I saw him open for Frank at Foxwoods Casino when I was much younger.

:)

> On Nov 17, 2016, at 11:13 AM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   That was somewhat a tongue in cheek comment. Think Don Rickles.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 11/17/2016 7:55 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> I’m not sure why there wouldn’t be hope for Apple, this is pretty common 
>> behavior although you’d have to be pretty odd to be ripping off parts of the 
>> tray that’s already installed.  I can sort of understand how this might 
>> happen though as sometimes the components feel different than you might 
>> imagine but in general, if I don’t know what it is I don’t rip it off.;)
>> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2016, at 10:45 AM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  There is hope for Apple yet. (shakes head in wonderment)
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Without H2O there is no life!
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 11/17/2016 12:53 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
 Guys, once again, Apple has done it! They have exceeded my expectations
 by far! I'm very very impressed!
 
 So, here's the medium length version of the Sauga.
 
 I have two iPhones, a 7+, and a 6S.
 
 What I wanted to do was, I wanted to take the sim cards, and reverse
 them. So the 6S goes in the 7+, the 7+ goes in the 6S. Basically a phone
 number swap.
 
 What happened was, for some reason, I don't know if the sim tray was
 crooked or what, but it wasn't seating  flushed with the bezil of the
 phone. So, I slid the tray out all the way into my hand, and really
 examined the tray closely with no sim lying in it. What I noticed was,
 on the end opisit from what goes first slidden into the phone, there was
 this really el cheapo dinky dank little thing that felt like the
 protective plastic thin film that would go over the screen of a phone
 during packaging to protect it. The best way I can describe it is, it
 felt like really really really thin filmy wax paper, or maybe like
 
 really thin cellophan. I was like, what on earth? um, why would
 
 cellophane be on the tray down inside the sim slot stuck to the tray?
 Don't tell me at Best buy, they didn't see this and forgot to remove
 it.  Well, no worries. Well? yeah, worries! Oopsy doodles, Me bwoke it
 weel good! Basically, thinking that was
 
 cellophane, what did little Crissy dumb nut do? You guessed it!  Yank? I
 tore the thing right off. I'm like it's just
 
 cellophane, so who cares!
 
 
 
 Well? I later found out, so guys with iPhone 7 and 7 pluses, beware of
 this, that's not actually
 
 cellophane! Don't pull it off, whatever the heck you do! That film is a
 very thin rubbery bumpber/gasket which basically helps the sim card tray
 to slide in totally aligned straight/flat. If you tear it off, you just
 rendered that sim tray utterly useless.
 
 
 
 So long story short, I called Apple Accessibility and told them I was
 having issues.  Through describing to them what I did, and what
 initially happened before doing so, and what happened now that I did! do
 so, they were able to conclude what I'd done, and explained to me about
 that little rubber piece. They took my feedback and sent to engineers
 regarding this, as to a blind person, that's really kind a a bad way to
 make that sim tray. I mean, the tray from my 6S doesn't have one of
 those rubber pieces, and it fits both my phones perfectly! So, why add
 that bumper? Don't fix it if it ain't a problem to start with. I liked
 it better on the 6S, 6S+, 6, and 6S, how there are! no pieces like that
 on the tray. It just is what it is, a tray.
 
 
 
 They said I'm by far not the first person's who's done this to their
 7/7+ tray, and were very very willing to own up to it being their falt
 for confusing design, especially if you can't visually see what it is
 you're pulling to know what it isn't. They were so sorry for this, that
 they agreed even to send me out not 1, but two! 6S doors, and! two 7+
 doors. so I'd have some spares. They're not even charging me a penny 
 either!
 
 
 
 To me, that really shows that they get it. They really do understand how
 this potentially is a bigtime problem that needs to be dealt with in
 their making assemblyline.
 
 
 
 Go Apple!
 
 
 
 Chris.
 
 --
 The following information is important for all members of the Mac
 Visionaries list.
 
 If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
 if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
 owners or moderators directly rather than 

Re: Another phenominal story to tell you all about Apple Accessibility!

[E.T.]

   That was somewhat a tongue in cheek comment. Think Don Rickles.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/17/2016 7:55 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

I’m not sure why there wouldn’t be hope for Apple, this is pretty common 
behavior although you’d have to be pretty odd to be ripping off parts of the 
tray that’s already installed.  I can sort of understand how this might happen 
though as sometimes the components feel different than you might imagine but in 
general, if I don’t know what it is I don’t rip it off.;)


On Nov 17, 2016, at 10:45 AM, E.T.  wrote:

  There is hope for Apple yet. (shakes head in wonderment)

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/17/2016 12:53 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Guys, once again, Apple has done it! They have exceeded my expectations
by far! I'm very very impressed!

So, here's the medium length version of the Sauga.

I have two iPhones, a 7+, and a 6S.

What I wanted to do was, I wanted to take the sim cards, and reverse
them. So the 6S goes in the 7+, the 7+ goes in the 6S. Basically a phone
number swap.

What happened was, for some reason, I don't know if the sim tray was
crooked or what, but it wasn't seating  flushed with the bezil of the
phone. So, I slid the tray out all the way into my hand, and really
examined the tray closely with no sim lying in it. What I noticed was,
on the end opisit from what goes first slidden into the phone, there was
this really el cheapo dinky dank little thing that felt like the
protective plastic thin film that would go over the screen of a phone
during packaging to protect it. The best way I can describe it is, it
felt like really really really thin filmy wax paper, or maybe like

really thin cellophan. I was like, what on earth? um, why would

cellophane be on the tray down inside the sim slot stuck to the tray?
Don't tell me at Best buy, they didn't see this and forgot to remove
it.  Well, no worries. Well? yeah, worries! Oopsy doodles, Me bwoke it
weel good! Basically, thinking that was

cellophane, what did little Crissy dumb nut do? You guessed it!  Yank? I
tore the thing right off. I'm like it's just

cellophane, so who cares!



Well? I later found out, so guys with iPhone 7 and 7 pluses, beware of
this, that's not actually

cellophane! Don't pull it off, whatever the heck you do! That film is a
very thin rubbery bumpber/gasket which basically helps the sim card tray
to slide in totally aligned straight/flat. If you tear it off, you just
rendered that sim tray utterly useless.



So long story short, I called Apple Accessibility and told them I was
having issues.  Through describing to them what I did, and what
initially happened before doing so, and what happened now that I did! do
so, they were able to conclude what I'd done, and explained to me about
that little rubber piece. They took my feedback and sent to engineers
regarding this, as to a blind person, that's really kind a a bad way to
make that sim tray. I mean, the tray from my 6S doesn't have one of
those rubber pieces, and it fits both my phones perfectly! So, why add
that bumper? Don't fix it if it ain't a problem to start with. I liked
it better on the 6S, 6S+, 6, and 6S, how there are! no pieces like that
on the tray. It just is what it is, a tray.



They said I'm by far not the first person's who's done this to their
7/7+ tray, and were very very willing to own up to it being their falt
for confusing design, especially if you can't visually see what it is
you're pulling to know what it isn't. They were so sorry for this, that
they agreed even to send me out not 1, but two! 6S doors, and! two 7+
doors. so I'd have some spares. They're not even charging me a penny either!



To me, that really shows that they get it. They really do understand how
this potentially is a bigtime problem that needs to be dealt with in
their making assemblyline.



Go Apple!



Chris.

--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac
Visionaries list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark
at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara
Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send
an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

Re: Another phenominal story to tell you all about Apple Accessibility!

[Scott Granados]

I’m not sure why there wouldn’t be hope for Apple, this is pretty common 
behavior although you’d have to be pretty odd to be ripping off parts of the 
tray that’s already installed.  I can sort of understand how this might happen 
though as sometimes the components feel different than you might imagine but in 
general, if I don’t know what it is I don’t rip it off.;)

> On Nov 17, 2016, at 10:45 AM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   There is hope for Apple yet. (shakes head in wonderment)
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 11/17/2016 12:53 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>> Guys, once again, Apple has done it! They have exceeded my expectations
>> by far! I'm very very impressed!
>> 
>> So, here's the medium length version of the Sauga.
>> 
>> I have two iPhones, a 7+, and a 6S.
>> 
>> What I wanted to do was, I wanted to take the sim cards, and reverse
>> them. So the 6S goes in the 7+, the 7+ goes in the 6S. Basically a phone
>> number swap.
>> 
>> What happened was, for some reason, I don't know if the sim tray was
>> crooked or what, but it wasn't seating  flushed with the bezil of the
>> phone. So, I slid the tray out all the way into my hand, and really
>> examined the tray closely with no sim lying in it. What I noticed was,
>> on the end opisit from what goes first slidden into the phone, there was
>> this really el cheapo dinky dank little thing that felt like the
>> protective plastic thin film that would go over the screen of a phone
>> during packaging to protect it. The best way I can describe it is, it
>> felt like really really really thin filmy wax paper, or maybe like
>> 
>> really thin cellophan. I was like, what on earth? um, why would
>> 
>> cellophane be on the tray down inside the sim slot stuck to the tray?
>> Don't tell me at Best buy, they didn't see this and forgot to remove
>> it.  Well, no worries. Well? yeah, worries! Oopsy doodles, Me bwoke it
>> weel good! Basically, thinking that was
>> 
>> cellophane, what did little Crissy dumb nut do? You guessed it!  Yank? I
>> tore the thing right off. I'm like it's just
>> 
>> cellophane, so who cares!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Well? I later found out, so guys with iPhone 7 and 7 pluses, beware of
>> this, that's not actually
>> 
>> cellophane! Don't pull it off, whatever the heck you do! That film is a
>> very thin rubbery bumpber/gasket which basically helps the sim card tray
>> to slide in totally aligned straight/flat. If you tear it off, you just
>> rendered that sim tray utterly useless.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> So long story short, I called Apple Accessibility and told them I was
>> having issues.  Through describing to them what I did, and what
>> initially happened before doing so, and what happened now that I did! do
>> so, they were able to conclude what I'd done, and explained to me about
>> that little rubber piece. They took my feedback and sent to engineers
>> regarding this, as to a blind person, that's really kind a a bad way to
>> make that sim tray. I mean, the tray from my 6S doesn't have one of
>> those rubber pieces, and it fits both my phones perfectly! So, why add
>> that bumper? Don't fix it if it ain't a problem to start with. I liked
>> it better on the 6S, 6S+, 6, and 6S, how there are! no pieces like that
>> on the tray. It just is what it is, a tray.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> They said I'm by far not the first person's who's done this to their
>> 7/7+ tray, and were very very willing to own up to it being their falt
>> for confusing design, especially if you can't visually see what it is
>> you're pulling to know what it isn't. They were so sorry for this, that
>> they agreed even to send me out not 1, but two! 6S doors, and! two 7+
>> doors. so I'd have some spares. They're not even charging me a penny either!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> To me, that really shows that they get it. They really do understand how
>> this potentially is a bigtime problem that needs to be dealt with in
>> their making assemblyline.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Go Apple!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> --
>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac
>> Visionaries list.
>> 
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>> 
>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark
>> at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara
>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>> 
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>> ---
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send
>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
>> 

Re: Another phenominal story to tell you all about Apple Accessibility!

[E.T.]

   There is hope for Apple yet. (shakes head in wonderment)

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/17/2016 12:53 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Guys, once again, Apple has done it! They have exceeded my expectations
by far! I'm very very impressed!

So, here's the medium length version of the Sauga.

I have two iPhones, a 7+, and a 6S.

What I wanted to do was, I wanted to take the sim cards, and reverse
them. So the 6S goes in the 7+, the 7+ goes in the 6S. Basically a phone
number swap.

What happened was, for some reason, I don't know if the sim tray was
crooked or what, but it wasn't seating  flushed with the bezil of the
phone. So, I slid the tray out all the way into my hand, and really
examined the tray closely with no sim lying in it. What I noticed was,
on the end opisit from what goes first slidden into the phone, there was
this really el cheapo dinky dank little thing that felt like the
protective plastic thin film that would go over the screen of a phone
during packaging to protect it. The best way I can describe it is, it
felt like really really really thin filmy wax paper, or maybe like

really thin cellophan. I was like, what on earth? um, why would

cellophane be on the tray down inside the sim slot stuck to the tray?
Don't tell me at Best buy, they didn't see this and forgot to remove
it.  Well, no worries. Well? yeah, worries! Oopsy doodles, Me bwoke it
weel good! Basically, thinking that was

cellophane, what did little Crissy dumb nut do? You guessed it!  Yank? I
tore the thing right off. I'm like it's just

cellophane, so who cares!



Well? I later found out, so guys with iPhone 7 and 7 pluses, beware of
this, that's not actually

cellophane! Don't pull it off, whatever the heck you do! That film is a
very thin rubbery bumpber/gasket which basically helps the sim card tray
to slide in totally aligned straight/flat. If you tear it off, you just
rendered that sim tray utterly useless.



So long story short, I called Apple Accessibility and told them I was
having issues.  Through describing to them what I did, and what
initially happened before doing so, and what happened now that I did! do
so, they were able to conclude what I'd done, and explained to me about
that little rubber piece. They took my feedback and sent to engineers
regarding this, as to a blind person, that's really kind a a bad way to
make that sim tray. I mean, the tray from my 6S doesn't have one of
those rubber pieces, and it fits both my phones perfectly! So, why add
that bumper? Don't fix it if it ain't a problem to start with. I liked
it better on the 6S, 6S+, 6, and 6S, how there are! no pieces like that
on the tray. It just is what it is, a tray.



They said I'm by far not the first person's who's done this to their
7/7+ tray, and were very very willing to own up to it being their falt
for confusing design, especially if you can't visually see what it is
you're pulling to know what it isn't. They were so sorry for this, that
they agreed even to send me out not 1, but two! 6S doors, and! two 7+
doors. so I'd have some spares. They're not even charging me a penny either!



To me, that really shows that they get it. They really do understand how
this potentially is a bigtime problem that needs to be dealt with in
their making assemblyline.



Go Apple!



Chris.

--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac
Visionaries list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark
at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara
Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send
an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at 

Re: Another phenominal story to tell you all about Apple Accessibility!

[Stacey Robinson]

Chris, that’s wonderful.
I wouldn’t even know how to remove my simcard.

Peace,  
Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.

mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net

> On Nov 17, 2016, at 2:53 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Guys, once again, Apple has done it! They have exceeded my expectations by 
> far! I'm very very impressed!
>  
> So, here's the medium length version of the Sauga.
>  
> I have two iPhones, a 7+, and a 6S.
>  
> What I wanted to do was, I wanted to take the sim cards, and reverse them. So 
> the 6S goes in the 7+, the 7+ goes in the 6S. Basically a phone number swap.
>  
> What happened was, for some reason, I don't know if the sim tray was crooked 
> or what, but it wasn't seating  flushed with the bezil of the phone. So, I 
> slid the tray out all the way into my hand, and really examined the tray 
> closely with no sim lying in it. What I noticed was, on the end opisit from 
> what goes first slidden into the phone, there was this really el cheapo dinky 
> dank little thing that felt like the protective plastic thin film that would 
> go over the screen of a phone during packaging to protect it. The best way I 
> can describe it is, it felt like really really really thin filmy wax paper, 
> or maybe like
> really thin cellophan. I was like, what on earth? um, why would 
> cellophane be on the tray down inside the sim slot stuck to the tray? Don't 
> tell me at Best buy, they didn't see this and forgot to remove it.  Well, no 
> worries. Well? yeah, worries! Oopsy doodles, Me bwoke it weel good! 
> Basically, thinking that was 
> cellophane, what did little Crissy dumb nut do? You guessed it!  Yank? I tore 
> the thing right off. I'm like it's just 
> cellophane, so who cares!
>  
> Well? I later found out, so guys with iPhone 7 and 7 pluses, beware of this, 
> that's not actually 
> cellophane! Don't pull it off, whatever the heck you do! That film is a very 
> thin rubbery bumpber/gasket which basically helps the sim card tray to slide 
> in totally aligned straight/flat. If you tear it off, you just rendered that 
> sim tray utterly useless.
>  
> So long story short, I called Apple Accessibility and told them I was having 
> issues.  Through describing to them what I did, and what initially happened 
> before doing so, and what happened now that I did! do so, they were able to 
> conclude what I'd done, and explained to me about that little rubber piece. 
> They took my feedback and sent to engineers regarding this, as to a blind 
> person, that's really kind a a bad way to make that sim tray. I mean, the 
> tray from my 6S doesn't have one of those rubber pieces, and it fits both my 
> phones perfectly! So, why add that bumper? Don't fix it if it ain't a problem 
> to start with. I liked it better on the 6S, 6S+, 6, and 6S, how there are! no 
> pieces like that on the tray. It just is what it is, a tray.
>  
> They said I'm by far not the first person's who's done this to their 7/7+ 
> tray, and were very very willing to own up to it being their falt for 
> confusing design, especially if you can't visually see what it is you're 
> pulling to know what it isn't. They were so sorry for this, that they agreed 
> even to send me out not 1, but two! 6S doors, and! two 7+ doors. so I'd have 
> some spares. They're not even charging me a penny either!
>  
> To me, that really shows that they get it. They really do understand how this 
> potentially is a bigtime problem that needs to be dealt with in their making 
> assemblyline.
>  
> Go Apple!
>  
> Chris.
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
>  
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>  
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: 
> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com 
>  and your owner is Cara 
> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com 
> 
>  
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ 
> 
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
> .
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> .
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries 
> .
> For more options, visit 

Re: Battery draining quicly on ipod touch latest generation

[Todor Fassl]

I have to apologize. I missed some of your message. You're right. I'm 
wrong. I am really sorry. Technically, I may be violating my pledge not 
to go OT but I think this message does not violate the spirit of the pledge.




On 11/17/2016 07:44 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

My explanation is exactly what you said, you use matrixes of transistors to 
move the liquid crystals in to different charged states that filter white light.

I’m not going to argue with you because you’re to dense to listen and it’s a 
waste of my time but you literally confirmed everything I said in your response.




On Nov 17, 2016, at 8:06 AM, Todor Fassl  wrote:


You don't actually understand how a screen works, right?

Actually, I googled it and it does make sense. So a touch screen works by 
filtering phosphorescent light. It's likechristmas lights. They are just white 
lights with a colored transparent plastic bulb. The screen aligns crystals to 
filter the light depending on what color each pixel is to display. If you align 
the crystals so they filter all of the light, that's black. So actually, the 
device probably is absorbing that energy and radiating it as heat when you turn 
the screen curtain on.

Your explanation is nonsense but the screen curtain may not save energy. You 
happen to be right but for the wrong reason.



On 11/16/2016 09:52 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

Of course black requires power, any light omitted regardless of color requires 
the same amount of power. The color of the pixels doesn’t matter they all 
generate the same amount regardless of whether it’s white, black or something 
in-between.  Hell, pixels technically don’t even have to omit visible light to 
draw power if they generated something in the infrared or ultraviolet spectrum. 
 It’s not like CRT displays where black is generated by pulsing off the 
electron gun.;)

A good understanding of how displays work would be a good start.  In the case 
of these screens, basically each pixel or color element consists of a 
transistor array and elements that are combined to generate a particular set of 
colors.  Some use red, green and blue in combination, others use C Y M and K 
and all designs use a backlight.  You also have designs where the transistor 
array enables a set of chemicals which can become opaque to certain colors or 
all colors based on the light filtered so it’s a subtractive system.  You start 
with a white light in the back and you filter out all the color combinations 
you want to block to leave yourself with the color you wish to display that 
remains.  In this case, you’d activate all the transistors in the array to 
filter out all colors and be left with the absence of color for that particular 
element.  If the screen curtain is enabled the back light is still generating 
the same white and the pixel elements are filtering out that white light on all 
elements being left with the absence of color yet the net energy drain is the 
same.  Whether an additive or subtractive system you will draw power per 
element to generate a color or in the case of black the absence of color.  You 
also still have the multiplexer / demultiplexer electronics that are carrying 
the black signal that draw power regardless of the color being generated, the 
graphics processor is generating a signal with all black elements and so on and 
so forth.  All displays work a little differently whether it’s LCD which tends 
to be subtractive or LED where you use light emitting components or OLED that 
uses organic chemistry under electrical stimulus to generate light the concepts 
are the same.



On Nov 16, 2016, at 10:11 PM, Todor Fassl  wrote:

No, black does not requirejuice.  I have been thinking about this and this 
thing about the screen curtain not saving power defies the laws of physics. 
When the screen curtain is off, light is emitted from the screen. Energy is 
escaping through the screen. If the screen curtain is off, where does that 
energy go? Does turning on the screen curtain make the device disipate more 
energy as heat or something? I doubt it.






On 11/16/2016 11:31 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

David this sounds correct to me as well, black requires juice just like all the 
other colors.  Turning down the brightness is the only way to save power with 
the screen.  Frankly, I don’t bother, just put the brightness in auto mode and 
let her rip.



On Nov 15, 2016, at 1:00 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:

According to Apple, screen curtain has no effect on battery life. Screen 
curtain sets all the pixels to black. It does not turn the backlight off.

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone


On 16/11/2016, at 06:42, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
Screen curtain does not help saving battery from what i have heard.
But i am not sure.
/A

13 nov. 2016 kl. 19:17 skrev Anne Robertson 

Re: Battery draining quicly on ipod touch latest generation

[Scott Granados]

My explanation is exactly what you said, you use matrixes of transistors to 
move the liquid crystals in to different charged states that filter white light.

I’m not going to argue with you because you’re to dense to listen and it’s a 
waste of my time but you literally confirmed everything I said in your response.



> On Nov 17, 2016, at 8:06 AM, Todor Fassl  wrote:
> 
> 
> You don't actually understand how a screen works, right?
> 
> Actually, I googled it and it does make sense. So a touch screen works by 
> filtering phosphorescent light. It's likechristmas lights. They are just 
> white lights with a colored transparent plastic bulb. The screen aligns 
> crystals to filter the light depending on what color each pixel is to 
> display. If you align the crystals so they filter all of the light, that's 
> black. So actually, the device probably is absorbing that energy and 
> radiating it as heat when you turn the screen curtain on.
> 
> Your explanation is nonsense but the screen curtain may not save energy. You 
> happen to be right but for the wrong reason.
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/16/2016 09:52 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> Of course black requires power, any light omitted regardless of color 
>> requires the same amount of power. The color of the pixels doesn’t matter 
>> they all generate the same amount regardless of whether it’s white, black or 
>> something in-between.  Hell, pixels technically don’t even have to omit 
>> visible light to draw power if they generated something in the infrared or 
>> ultraviolet spectrum.  It’s not like CRT displays where black is generated 
>> by pulsing off the electron gun.;)
>> 
>> A good understanding of how displays work would be a good start.  In the 
>> case of these screens, basically each pixel or color element consists of a 
>> transistor array and elements that are combined to generate a particular set 
>> of colors.  Some use red, green and blue in combination, others use C Y M 
>> and K and all designs use a backlight.  You also have designs where the 
>> transistor array enables a set of chemicals which can become opaque to 
>> certain colors or all colors based on the light filtered so it’s a 
>> subtractive system.  You start with a white light in the back and you filter 
>> out all the color combinations you want to block to leave yourself with the 
>> color you wish to display that remains.  In this case, you’d activate all 
>> the transistors in the array to filter out all colors and be left with the 
>> absence of color for that particular element.  If the screen curtain is 
>> enabled the back light is still generating the same white and the pixel 
>> elements are filtering out that white light on all elements being left with 
>> the absence of color yet the net energy drain is the same.  Whether an 
>> additive or subtractive system you will draw power per element to generate a 
>> color or in the case of black the absence of color.  You also still have the 
>> multiplexer / demultiplexer electronics that are carrying the black signal 
>> that draw power regardless of the color being generated, the graphics 
>> processor is generating a signal with all black elements and so on and so 
>> forth.  All displays work a little differently whether it’s LCD which tends 
>> to be subtractive or LED where you use light emitting components or OLED 
>> that uses organic chemistry under electrical stimulus to generate light the 
>> concepts are the same.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 16, 2016, at 10:11 PM, Todor Fassl  wrote:
>>> 
>>> No, black does not requirejuice.  I have been thinking about this and this 
>>> thing about the screen curtain not saving power defies the laws of physics. 
>>> When the screen curtain is off, light is emitted from the screen. Energy is 
>>> escaping through the screen. If the screen curtain is off, where does that 
>>> energy go? Does turning on the screen curtain make the device disipate more 
>>> energy as heat or something? I doubt it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 11/16/2016 11:31 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 David this sounds correct to me as well, black requires juice just like 
 all the other colors.  Turning down the brightness is the only way to save 
 power with the screen.  Frankly, I don’t bother, just put the brightness 
 in auto mode and let her rip.
 
 
> On Nov 15, 2016, at 1:00 PM, David Chittenden  
> wrote:
> 
> According to Apple, screen curtain has no effect on battery life. Screen 
> curtain sets all the pixels to black. It does not turn the backlight off.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 16/11/2016, at 06:42, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Screen curtain does not help saving battery from what i have heard.
>> But i 

Re: Battery draining quicly on ipod touch latest generation

[Todor Fassl]

You don't actually understand how a screen works, right?

Actually, I googled it and it does make sense. So a touch screen works 
by filtering phosphorescent light. It's likechristmas lights. They are 
just white lights with a colored transparent plastic bulb. The screen 
aligns crystals to filter the light depending on what color each pixel 
is to display. If you align the crystals so they filter all of the 
light, that's black. So actually, the device probably is absorbing that 
energy and radiating it as heat when you turn the screen curtain on.


Your explanation is nonsense but the screen curtain may not save energy. 
You happen to be right but for the wrong reason.




On 11/16/2016 09:52 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

Of course black requires power, any light omitted regardless of color requires 
the same amount of power. The color of the pixels doesn’t matter they all 
generate the same amount regardless of whether it’s white, black or something 
in-between.  Hell, pixels technically don’t even have to omit visible light to 
draw power if they generated something in the infrared or ultraviolet spectrum. 
 It’s not like CRT displays where black is generated by pulsing off the 
electron gun.;)

A good understanding of how displays work would be a good start.  In the case 
of these screens, basically each pixel or color element consists of a 
transistor array and elements that are combined to generate a particular set of 
colors.  Some use red, green and blue in combination, others use C Y M and K 
and all designs use a backlight.  You also have designs where the transistor 
array enables a set of chemicals which can become opaque to certain colors or 
all colors based on the light filtered so it’s a subtractive system.  You start 
with a white light in the back and you filter out all the color combinations 
you want to block to leave yourself with the color you wish to display that 
remains.  In this case, you’d activate all the transistors in the array to 
filter out all colors and be left with the absence of color for that particular 
element.  If the screen curtain is enabled the back light is still generating 
the same white and the pixel elements are filtering out that white light on all 
elements being left with the absence of color yet the net energy drain is the 
same.  Whether an additive or subtractive system you will draw power per 
element to generate a color or in the case of black the absence of color.  You 
also still have the multiplexer / demultiplexer electronics that are carrying 
the black signal that draw power regardless of the color being generated, the 
graphics processor is generating a signal with all black elements and so on and 
so forth.  All displays work a little differently whether it’s LCD which tends 
to be subtractive or LED where you use light emitting components or OLED that 
uses organic chemistry under electrical stimulus to generate light the concepts 
are the same.



On Nov 16, 2016, at 10:11 PM, Todor Fassl  wrote:

No, black does not requirejuice.  I have been thinking about this and this 
thing about the screen curtain not saving power defies the laws of physics. 
When the screen curtain is off, light is emitted from the screen. Energy is 
escaping through the screen. If the screen curtain is off, where does that 
energy go? Does turning on the screen curtain make the device disipate more 
energy as heat or something? I doubt it.






On 11/16/2016 11:31 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

David this sounds correct to me as well, black requires juice just like all the 
other colors.  Turning down the brightness is the only way to save power with 
the screen.  Frankly, I don’t bother, just put the brightness in auto mode and 
let her rip.



On Nov 15, 2016, at 1:00 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:

According to Apple, screen curtain has no effect on battery life. Screen 
curtain sets all the pixels to black. It does not turn the backlight off.

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone


On 16/11/2016, at 06:42, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
Screen curtain does not help saving battery from what i have heard.
But i am not sure.
/A

13 nov. 2016 kl. 19:17 skrev Anne Robertson :

Hello,

The battery drain problem is a known issue and would appear to be fixed by the 
second release of iOS 10.1.1. It has nothing to do with using VoiceOver as 
non-voiceOver users have the same problem.

Cheers,

Anne




On 13 Nov 2016, at 17:50, Todor Fassl  wrote:

Have you fiddled with the screen brightness? I have the screen bightness on my 
itouch set to zero and the screen curtain on as well. But some of my friends 
who are visually impaired turned the brightness up and it drained their battery 
a lot.



On 11/12/2016 01:27 PM, Andrew Lamanche wrote:
Hi Listers,

I have a new ipod touch - the latest one 

Re: iPhone headset recommendations

[Jenine Stanley]

I am lusting for the Airpods. Enough said there.
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



> On Nov 17, 2016, at 1:52 AM, David Chittenden  wrote:
> 
> Yes, that is what I am waiting for. I currently use my earpods, and my cheap 
> Bluetooth earpiece when necessary.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 17/11/2016, at 19:02, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Just a thought here,
>> 
>> And ok I don’t' think the base / treble  is going to work but what about the 
>> not yet released apple wifi earposds?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>> Sent: Thursday, 17 November 2016 6:40 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iPhone headset recommendations
>> 
>> I can help you with everything but the base adjustment.  On the cordless 
>> side, the Plantronics Voyager 5220 is a fantastic headset with the best 
>> noise cancelation I’ve used so far and that’s saying something because 
>> plantronics has kick ass sound cancelation in their products for a long time 
>> now.  The battery life is good, lots of audio queues and they have a UC 
>> model that can snap in to your phone system as well as cell phone.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 16, 2016, at 10:03 AM, Jenine Stanley  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, I actually use that headset also, though the microphone is sketchy for 
>>> phone calls. I have the corded model. I had one of the original Aftershokz 
>>> bluetooth models but the power port died fairly early on.
>>> Jenine Stanley
>>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Nov 16, 2016, at 9:44 AM, Todor Fassl  wrote:
 
 I use a headset from Aftershokz. They are bone-conduction which means they 
 don't cover your ears. I was getting a lot of ear infections and I thought 
 maybe it was because my ears were covered for 8 hours a day. Plus I was 
 worried about the effect headphones had on my hearing. That's not 
 scientific. I know of no studies that show that wearing headphones over 
 your ears damages your hearing. But I figure bone conduction is less 
 likely to have an effect because the sound is not trapped in your ear 
 canal. Anyway, the big problem with this headset is that it has a battery. 
 It is a rechargeable battery built into the chord. That has two problems, 
 the chord has extra weight to it and you have to periodically recharge the 
 headset. You can recharge them while using them but it makes an annoying 
 buzzing sound. The rechargeable battery is pretty small and it is designed 
 to clip onto your collar so it is tolerable. All in all, I would probably 
 buy another headset like this if this one broke. But it is not ideal. It 
 does have a volume control but not a bass/treble control.
 
 I also have an Aftershokz bluetooth headphone, without a microphone. That 
 actually is really nice. It also has a battery but you'd expect that. The 
 battery life is really long and the sound quality is way better thanI 
 expected. As I said, this is just a pair of headphone but I would think 
 the bluetooth headset by the same company would pretty much be the same 
 thing only with a microphone attach.
 
 
 n 11/15/2016 03:31 PM, Jenine Stanley wrote:
> Sorry, I wasn’t paying attention when this thread came up earlier but now 
> I have a need for a specific type of headset.
> 
> I use my iPhone 6S for work calls and I need a good headset, money being 
> a minimal concern here, that has both a volume control separate from the 
> phone and a control for bass/trebel.
> 
> I’d take a bluetooth recommendation but prefer wired for this situation.
> 
> Thanks.
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
 
 -- 
 Todd
 
 -- 
 The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
 Visionaries list.
 
 If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
 if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
 owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
 
 Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark 
 at:  macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara 
 Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
 
 The archives for this list can be searched at:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
 Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
 To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
 email to 

Re: iPhone headset recommendations

[Jenine Stanley]

I generally really like the Apple earpods and the design is fairly good in my 
ears. I am losing some low frequency hearing though and as a good bit of my job 
involves phone calls, I need to maximize my listening ability on said phone. 
Granted the best headset in the world isn’t going to make someone else’s crappy 
cell phone sound any better but at least I can try. 

I’m considering buying a pair of the lightning earpods as I hear the base is 
fuller on them.
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



> On Nov 17, 2016, at 12:57 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Janine,
> 
> What is wrong with the apple headphones for your mobile?
> 
> I use mine all the time for phone calls and music etc if I need to shut 
> myself away from life in general.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jenine Stanley
> Sent: Thursday, 17 November 2016 4:03 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone headset recommendations
> 
> Hi, I actually use that headset also, though the microphone is sketchy for 
> phone calls. I have the corded model. I had one of the original Aftershokz 
> bluetooth models but the power port died fairly early on.
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 16, 2016, at 9:44 AM, Todor Fassl  wrote:
>> 
>> I use a headset from Aftershokz. They are bone-conduction which means they 
>> don't cover your ears. I was getting a lot of ear infections and I thought 
>> maybe it was because my ears were covered for 8 hours a day. Plus I was 
>> worried about the effect headphones had on my hearing. That's not 
>> scientific. I know of no studies that show that wearing headphones over your 
>> ears damages your hearing. But I figure bone conduction is less likely to 
>> have an effect because the sound is not trapped in your ear canal. Anyway, 
>> the big problem with this headset is that it has a battery. It is a 
>> rechargeable battery built into the chord. That has two problems, the chord 
>> has extra weight to it and you have to periodically recharge the headset. 
>> You can recharge them while using them but it makes an annoying buzzing 
>> sound. The rechargeable battery is pretty small and it is designed to clip 
>> onto your collar so it is tolerable. All in all, I would probably buy 
>> another headset like this if this one broke. But it is not ideal. It does 
>> have a volume control but not a bass/treble control.
>> 
>> I also have an Aftershokz bluetooth headphone, without a microphone. That 
>> actually is really nice. It also has a battery but you'd expect that. The 
>> battery life is really long and the sound quality is way better thanI 
>> expected. As I said, this is just a pair of headphone but I would think the 
>> bluetooth headset by the same company would pretty much be the same thing 
>> only with a microphone attach.
>> 
>> 
>> n 11/15/2016 03:31 PM, Jenine Stanley wrote:
>>> Sorry, I wasn’t paying attention when this thread came up earlier but now I 
>>> have a need for a specific type of headset.
>>> 
>>> I use my iPhone 6S for work calls and I need a good headset, money being a 
>>> minimal concern here, that has both a volume control separate from the 
>>> phone and a control for bass/trebel.
>>> 
>>> I’d take a bluetooth recommendation but prefer wired for this situation.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> Jenine Stanley
>>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Todd
>> 
>> -- 
>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>> Visionaries list.
>> 
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>> 
>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
>> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
>> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>> 
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list 

Re: iPhone headset recommendations

[Saqib Hussain]

Hi. I use the Sony SBH60 Bluetooth stereo headset and it’s good for calls and 
has plenty of base which is good for listening to EDM. They also supply a 3.5m 
audio code so you can plug your headset in when the battery dies. Battery life 
is good with 10 hours of playback time. 
> On 15 Nov 2016, at 21:31, Jenine Stanley  wrote:
> 
> Sorry, I wasn’t paying attention when this thread came up earlier but now I 
> have a need for a specific type of headset. 
> 
> I use my iPhone 6S for work calls and I need a good headset, money being a 
> minimal concern here, that has both a volume control separate from the phone 
> and a control for bass/trebel. 
> 
> I’d take a bluetooth recommendation but prefer wired for this situation.
> 
> Thanks.
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Another phenominal story to tell you all about Apple Accessibility!

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Guys, once again, Apple has done it! They have exceeded my expectations by far! 
I'm very very impressed!

So, here's the medium length version of the Sauga.

I have two iPhones, a 7+, and a 6S.

What I wanted to do was, I wanted to take the sim cards, and reverse them. So 
the 6S goes in the 7+, the 7+ goes in the 6S. Basically a phone number swap.

What happened was, for some reason, I don't know if the sim tray was crooked or 
what, but it wasn't seating  flushed with the bezil of the phone. So, I slid 
the tray out all the way into my hand, and really examined the tray closely 
with no sim lying in it. What I noticed was, on the end opisit from what goes 
first slidden into the phone, there was this really el cheapo dinky dank little 
thing that felt like the protective plastic thin film that would go over the 
screen of a phone during packaging to protect it. The best way I can describe 
it is, it felt like really really really thin filmy wax paper, or maybe like
really thin cellophan. I was like, what on earth? um, why would 

cellophane be on the tray down inside the sim slot stuck to the tray? Don't 
tell me at Best buy, they didn't see this and forgot to remove it.  Well, no 
worries. Well? yeah, worries! Oopsy doodles, Me bwoke it weel good! Basically, 
thinking that was 

cellophane, what did little Crissy dumb nut do? You guessed it!  Yank? I tore 
the thing right off. I'm like it's just 

cellophane, so who cares!



Well? I later found out, so guys with iPhone 7 and 7 pluses, beware of this, 
that's not actually 

cellophane! Don't pull it off, whatever the heck you do! That film is a very 
thin rubbery bumpber/gasket which basically helps the sim card tray to slide in 
totally aligned straight/flat. If you tear it off, you just rendered that sim 
tray utterly useless.



So long story short, I called Apple Accessibility and told them I was having 
issues.  Through describing to them what I did, and what initially happened 
before doing so, and what happened now that I did! do so, they were able to 
conclude what I'd done, and explained to me about that little rubber piece. 
They took my feedback and sent to engineers regarding this, as to a blind 
person, that's really kind a a bad way to make that sim tray. I mean, the tray 
from my 6S doesn't have one of those rubber pieces, and it fits both my phones 
perfectly! So, why add that bumper? Don't fix it if it ain't a problem to start 
with. I liked it better on the 6S, 6S+, 6, and 6S, how there are! no pieces 
like that on the tray. It just is what it is, a tray.



They said I'm by far not the first person's who's done this to their 7/7+ tray, 
and were very very willing to own up to it being their falt for confusing 
design, especially if you can't visually see what it is you're pulling to know 
what it isn't. They were so sorry for this, that they agreed even to send me 
out not 1, but two! 6S doors, and! two 7+ doors. so I'd have some spares. 
They're not even charging me a penny either!



To me, that really shows that they get it. They really do understand how this 
potentially is a bigtime problem that needs to be dealt with in their making 
assemblyline.



Go Apple!



Chris.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Alert! Fake email from Apple

[Andrew Lamanche]

Hi Everyone,

I’ve just received two fake emails with the Subject line "Apple Service ID 
unlock it now before you lose it”.  This sort of thing has happened before.  
The email tells me that my icloud account associated with itunes is going to be 
locked unless I follow the link in the email.  When I read the content 
carefully, the grammar of the email is one of the obvious giveaways.  Besides 
the content is all in a table - another odd thing about it.  Be cautious, 
everyone.

best wishes


Andrew !

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.