mac sound card question

[The wolf]

Hello I am wondering if any one could tell me how to set up the mac for 
line in recording?


there is only 1 jack on the mac it is a head phone jack I am thinking it 
may be one of those jacks that have multiple purposes like one of those 
jacks that you can use both for line in put recording or for head phones


once I get my partition issue fixed I was going to start recording some 
stuff on my mac


thanks

Hank


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Re: mac partition questiohn

[The wolf]

can you tell me where I go to resize the partition? or is that soemthing 
that I have to do in termonal?


I don't want to accidently remove the recovery partition

I just want to get this sorted out

I'm sorry for blowing up

this just has me seriusly frustrated
if I could get some help via phone or soemthing it would be helpful
thanks
Hank

On 1/13/2018 3:39 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
I think you have to resize or re-partition the mac and start over.
That’s the easiest solution.
/A


13 jan. 2018 kl. 00:23 skrev The wolf :

capassity

124.92 gigs

98.6 gigs

available

124 megabites

purgeable

26 gigs
used
I am still missing 100 gigs some where on this drive
my drive on the mac is a 250 gig drives
Hank

On 1/12/2018 4:11 PM, E.T. wrote:

Dump the trash and check again.

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On 1/12/2018 2:56 PM, The wolf wrote:

Hello total drive it is saying that it is 124 gig capassity

it is using 82 gig but the drive is a 250 gb so something is taking over 100 
gigs

On 1/12/2018 3:21 PM, E.T. wrote:

How do you know what you are missing? You did not say how much space is 
used. Do a Get Info on the drive.

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On 1/12/2018 2:05 PM, The wolf wrote:

Hello I was doing some looking around and my mac hd is 250 gigs

it says that 128 gigs is available

I think my partition got messed up some how wich would explain why I have been 
havinb boot camp issues

how ever I don't see any way to find where the extra partition is that is 
taking up the rest of the space?

the only other thing I see is the recovery disk.

surely that isn't what is taking up the rest of the space?

not sure if any of thi sis making sense

thanks for any help that you guys can give

Hank




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Re: mac partition questiohn

[The wolf]

yes of course
how big should the recovery partition be?
surely not 127 gigs?

On 1/13/2018 11:01 AM, Marshall Scott wrote:

Have you taken the recovery partition into account?
Marshall
On Jan 12, 2018, at 10:13 PM, The wolf  wrote:

Hello yes I am using High Sierra



On 1/12/2018 10:01 PM, E.T. wrote:

You are running High Sierra? If the drive is not an SSD then you are 
probably using macOS extended. Mine is formatted to APFS so the partition tab 
is different. So I am not sure what you should look for.

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On 1/12/2018 7:07 PM, The wolf wrote:

will give that a shot

is there anything that I should be looking out for?



On 1/12/2018 8:01 PM, E.T. wrote:

Off list. Since I have not had this problem, perchance you can go into the partition 
tab and see if you can address this there. Just a guess that you somehow "lost" 
125gigs in there.

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On 1/12/2018 5:07 PM, The wolf wrote:

disk aid was one of the verry first things that I tried running

On 1/12/2018 6:03 PM, E.T. wrote:

Too many things going on over here. So you are missing 125g. Have you run 
First Aid?

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E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 1/12/2018 4:56 PM, The wolf wrote:

250 gb capasity

minus 125 gigs for the intire mac partition=
125 gigs
there is still
125 gigs that should be free
is thismaking any sense?

On 1/12/2018 5:46 PM, E.T. wrote:

Hank,
Go to Finder, do a command shift c to bring up the drives, do a command i 
on the drive and tell me what the 3 numbers are. Capacity, available and used.

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On 1/12/2018 4:40 PM, The wolf wrote:

the mac book should show a capasity

of 250 gigs
not
124.92 gigs
there is still something not right with this


On 1/12/2018 5:33 PM, E.T. wrote:

If he partition is 125g, 25 used and 100g available then that adds up up 
250g. Am I missing something?

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On 1/12/2018 3:23 PM, The wolf wrote:

capassity

124.92 gigs

98.6 gigs

available

124 megabites

purgeable

26 gigs
used
I am still missing 100 gigs some where on this drive
my drive on the mac is a 250 gig drives
Hank

On 1/12/2018 4:11 PM, E.T. wrote:

Dump the trash and check again.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
and say God did it." --Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Contact
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 1/12/2018 2:56 PM, The wolf wrote:

Hello total drive it is saying that it is 124 gig capassity

it is using 82 gig but the drive is a 250 gb so something is taking over 100 
gigs

On 1/12/2018 3:21 PM, E.T. wrote:

How do you know what you are missing? You did not say how much space is 
used. Do a Get Info on the drive.

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all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
and say God did it." --Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Contact
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 1/12/2018 2:05 PM, The wolf wrote:

Hello I was doing some looking around and my mac hd is 250 gigs

it says that 128 gigs is available

I think my partition got messed up some how wich would explain why I have been 
havinb boot camp issues

how ever I don't see any way to find where the extra partition is that is 
taking up the rest of the space?

the only other thing I see is the recovery disk.

surely that isn't what is taking up the rest of the space?

not sure if any of thi sis making sense

thanks for any help that you guys can give

Hank




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Re: mac partition questiohn

[The wolf]

I was out of town and am just now getting to my emails



On 1/13/2018 9:55 AM, E.T. wrote:
   If in fact the drive in the old 2009 Mac is an SSD. If spinning, 
its macOS Extended.


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On 1/13/2018 8:37 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

To clarify.  What's likely happened here is that when you attempted 
to create the BootCamp partition, something went wrong.  Obvious, I 
know, but it needs to be said first.  So, you now have the Macintosh 
HD partition using up half the space of the 250 GB drive and the rest 
is unallocated space.  As Janina mentioned, distil in Terminal is 
your best option.  Since you have a MacBook and you're running High 
Sierra, the drive will be formatted as APFS which makes the distil 
command set slightly different than if it was a spinner drive.  "What 
you'll want to do is first determine a few facts about the drive and 
it's allocations, then you should be able to expand the Macintosh HD 
to use up the remaining free space and, thus, regain all the space 
that the 250 GB drive has to offer.


Actually, the first thing to do is to make sure that you have a 
backup of your data incase of problems.  There's not likely to be 
any, but as soon as I say that, there probably will be.  The commands 
that you need to consider are:


• distil list (this will list all the volumes on your drive and 
outline their format/size etc)
• distil apfs (this will list the available commands under the apfs 
volume set)
• distil apfs resizeVolume (is likely the command you'll need to 
regain the free space)


Note, arguments like resizeVolume are case sensitive.  Also, be sure 
to do the backup first as you don't want to lose you stuff.  Usually, 
the system won't let you destroy things without either warning you or 
just not allowing you to perform the action, but you never know.  You 
also may need to perform some of these actions from the Recovery 
Partition, but, I believe that you really should be able to 
non-destructively resize the Macintosh HD volume without too much 
headache from within Terminal.


Later...


Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 13, 2018, at 09:06, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:


The wolf writes:

Hello yes I am using High Sierra


Which means that you're using apfs, which is a whole new ball of wax.
It's not even that clearly explained anywhere that I've found between
it's concepts of drives, volumes, partitions, and containers.

diskutil is the best tool, promise.





On 1/12/2018 10:01 PM, E.T. wrote:
    You are running High Sierra? If the drive is not an SSD then 
you are

probably using macOS extended. Mine is formatted to APFS so the
partition tab is different. So I am not sure what you should look for.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
and say God did it." --Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Contact
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 1/12/2018 7:07 PM, The wolf wrote:

will give that a shot

is there anything that I should be looking out for?



On 1/12/2018 8:01 PM, E.T. wrote:

    Off list. Since I have not had this problem, perchance you
can go into the partition tab and see if you can address this
there. Just a guess that you somehow "lost" 125gigs in there.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
"God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world,
all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind 
off

and say God did it." --Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Contact
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 1/12/2018 5:07 PM, The wolf wrote:

disk aid was one of the verry first things that I tried running

On 1/12/2018 6:03 PM, E.T. wrote:

    Too many things going on over here. So you are
missing 125g. Have you run First Aid?

 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
"God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the 
world,
all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your 
mind off

and say God did it." --Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Contact
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 1/12/2018 4:56 PM, The wolf wrote:

250 gb capasity

minus 125 gigs for the intire mac partition=
125 gigs
there is still
125 gigs that should be free
is thismaking any sense?

On 1/12/2018 5:46 PM, E.T. wrote:

Hank,
    Go to Finder, do a command shift c to bring
up the drives, do a command i on the drive and
tell me what the 3 numbers are. Capacity,
available and used.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
"God for you is where you sweep away all the
mysteries of the world,
all the challenges to our intelligence. You
simply turn your mind off
and say God did it." --Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Contact
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 1/12/2018 4:40 PM, 

Re: mac partition questiohn

[The wolf]

so where is my other 127 gigs then?

something is taking half my friggen hard drive space

grrr


On 1/13/2018 9:04 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:

What you're missing is the way Apple does the math.

Your available storage space is being dynamically allocated between what
is actually used and what's still available for use by Mac or some other
installation, like BootCamp. At least, that's what apfs is doing.

The wolf writes:

the mac book should show a capasity

of 250 gigs
not
124.92 gigs
there is still something not right with this


On 1/12/2018 5:33 PM, E.T. wrote:

    If he partition is 125g, 25 used and 100g available then that adds up
up 250g. Am I missing something?

 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
"God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world,
all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
and say God did it." --Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Contact
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 1/12/2018 3:23 PM, The wolf wrote:

capassity

124.92 gigs

98.6 gigs

available

124 megabites

purgeable

26 gigs
used
I am still missing 100 gigs some where on this drive
my drive on the mac is a 250 gig drives
Hank

On 1/12/2018 4:11 PM, E.T. wrote:

    Dump the trash and check again.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
"God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world,
all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
and say God did it." --Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Contact
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 1/12/2018 2:56 PM, The wolf wrote:

Hello total drive it is saying that it is 124 gig capassity

it is using 82 gig but the drive is a 250 gb so something is
taking over 100 gigs

On 1/12/2018 3:21 PM, E.T. wrote:

    How do you know what you are missing? You did not say
how much space is used. Do a Get Info on the drive.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
"God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world,
all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
and say God did it." --Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Contact
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 1/12/2018 2:05 PM, The wolf wrote:

Hello I was doing some looking around and my mac hd is 250 gigs

it says that 128 gigs is available

I think my partition got messed up some how wich
would explain why I have been havinb boot camp
issues

how ever I don't see any way to find where the extra
partition is that is taking up the rest of the
space?

the only other thing I see is the recovery disk.

surely that isn't what is taking up the rest of the space?

not sure if any of thi sis making sense

thanks for any help that you guys can give

Hank




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Re: mac partition questiohn

[The wolf]

can you give me a call?

I can give you my number off list


On 1/13/2018 9:04 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:

What you're missing is the way Apple does the math.

Your available storage space is being dynamically allocated between what
is actually used and what's still available for use by Mac or some other
installation, like BootCamp. At least, that's what apfs is doing.

The wolf writes:

the mac book should show a capasity

of 250 gigs
not
124.92 gigs
there is still something not right with this


On 1/12/2018 5:33 PM, E.T. wrote:

    If he partition is 125g, 25 used and 100g available then that adds up
up 250g. Am I missing something?

 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
and say God did it." --Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Contact
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 1/12/2018 3:23 PM, The wolf wrote:

capassity

124.92 gigs

98.6 gigs

available

124 megabites

purgeable

26 gigs
used
I am still missing 100 gigs some where on this drive
my drive on the mac is a 250 gig drives
Hank

On 1/12/2018 4:11 PM, E.T. wrote:

    Dump the trash and check again.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
"God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world,
all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
and say God did it." --Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Contact
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 1/12/2018 2:56 PM, The wolf wrote:

Hello total drive it is saying that it is 124 gig capassity

it is using 82 gig but the drive is a 250 gb so something is
taking over 100 gigs

On 1/12/2018 3:21 PM, E.T. wrote:

    How do you know what you are missing? You did not say
how much space is used. Do a Get Info on the drive.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
"God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world,
all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
and say God did it." --Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Contact
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 1/12/2018 2:05 PM, The wolf wrote:

Hello I was doing some looking around and my mac hd is 250 gigs

it says that 128 gigs is available

I think my partition got messed up some how wich
would explain why I have been havinb boot camp
issues

how ever I don't see any way to find where the extra
partition is that is taking up the rest of the
space?

the only other thing I see is the recovery disk.

surely that isn't what is taking up the rest of the space?

not sure if any of thi sis making sense

thanks for any help that you guys can give

Hank




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Re: mac partition questiohn

[The wolf]

I can't ssh in to the machine
my desktop that is running windows isn't stable
so basicly your telling me that the only way to fix this is to go in the 
to the termonal?

serusly?

On 1/13/2018 9:02 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:

You need to learn to use diskutil from the command line. This is best
accomplished by ssh into the Mac from another machine, because you're
more likely to get good screen reader support that way. Voice Over isn't
the best when run in Terminal, which is the native way to do this.

Note that diskutil is not the same as the application called Disk
Utility in the Utilities folder.

I believe I previously sent you a pointer about this?

Janina

The wolf writes:

Hello I was doing some looking around and my mac hd is 250 gigs

it says that 128 gigs is available

I think my partition got messed up some how wich would explain why I have
been havinb boot camp issues

how ever I don't see any way to find where the extra partition is that is
taking up the rest of the space?

the only other thing I see is the recovery disk.

surely that isn't what is taking up the rest of the space?

not sure if any of thi sis making sense

thanks for any help that you guys can give

Hank



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Re: mac partition questiohn

[The wolf]

it is not a ssd it is a spinning drive


On 1/13/2018 1:41 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

Is this an SSD or a spindal harddrive?

  If your computer using the Get Info option gives yo a total drive size of 
124gb then  then to me that would say your drive is a 128GB ssd

  But if you open your disk utilities and find the internal drive you should be 
able to see what if any partitions are created on the drive

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On Behalf Of The wolf
Sent: Saturday, 13 January 2018 11:57 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: mac partition questiohn

Hello total drive it is saying that it is 124 gig capassity

it is using 82 gig but the drive is a 250 gb so something is taking over
100 gigs

On 1/12/2018 3:21 PM, E.T. wrote:

    How do you know what you are missing? You did not say how much
space is used. Do a Get Info on the drive.

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On 1/12/2018 2:05 PM, The wolf wrote:

Hello I was doing some looking around and my mac hd is 250 gigs

it says that 128 gigs is available

I think my partition got messed up some how wich would explain why I
have been havinb boot camp issues

how ever I don't see any way to find where the extra partition is
that is taking up the rest of the space?

the only other thing I see is the recovery disk.

surely that isn't what is taking up the rest of the space?

not sure if any of thi sis making sense

thanks for any help that you guys can give

Hank




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RE: Bootable usb stick is not bootable.

[M. Taylor]

Hello Simon and Everyone,

Interesting.

I'm glad to know that the USB sticks show up in High Sierra.

I think the last time I made a bootable stick, then tried to use it, was back 
on El Capitan.

I think I'll make a bootable stick, sometime this week.  It's a good idea to 
have one, right?  

Thank you all for chiming in on this one.  I love re-evaluating my perspective 
on these types of issues said reevaluation being inspired by all of your 
wonderful feedback.

Mark

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 9:51 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bootable usb stick is not bootable.

Yes I to can confirm that the usb bootable installers do show up in start up 
disk.

 However there is an issue if the bootable USB has an older version of the mac 
os installer An older version wont show up in the start up disk 

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On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Tuesday, 16 January 2018 9:45 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bootable usb stick is not bootable.

Hi Mark,

I have not experienced what you are stating.  In all previous version of the 
MacOS bootable installer on a USB stick that I have created, it was visible 
through the Startup Disk.  I just tested my High Sierra USB installer and it 
was visible in the Startup Disk pane as well.  I'm certainly not disputing that 
you've had that experience, but it is not the morn.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 15, 2018, at 13:31, M. Taylor  wrote:

Anders,

As I recall, in all previous versions of Mac OS, even if the bootable stick is 
prepared correctly, it does not show up in the Startup Disk preferences dialog 
box.

The last time I checked, the only way I could see the bootable stick was via 
the Option key-press at startup.  

I have not yet made a bootable High Sierra stick so cannot confirm this but 
such was definitely the case in the previous OS.

Mark 

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On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 1:29 AM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Subject: Bootable usb stick is not bootable.

Hi!
I have created a bootable usb stick with Hi sierra as i have to do a clean 
install.
The problem is that its not in the startdisk selection when i go to system 
prefs and start disk.
I think i have made a mistake by formatting it to Mac os extended journal.
I am not sure if this matters or not.
Is there a way of checking wheather the downloaded installer may be corrupt or 
something else may have gone south?
How big should the installer package be when its downloaded.
Mine is 5 gb.
Thanks in advance.
/A

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RE: Bootable usb stick is not bootable.

[Simon Fogarty]

Earlier versions wont show up 

I've tried with Yosemite and elcap in high sierra and sierra and there was no 
go but hey there is stil the option key at start up / power on.

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On Behalf Of E.T.
Sent: Tuesday, 16 January 2018 11:51 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bootable usb stick is not bootable.

I don't know about that, Mark. I see both of my High Sierra and Sierra 
install sticks. Don't recall not seeing earlier versions of OS X either in the 
startup disk window.

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On 1/15/2018 12:31 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> Anders,
> 
> As I recall, in all previous versions of Mac OS, even if the bootable stick 
> is prepared correctly, it does not show up in the Startup Disk preferences 
> dialog box.
> 
> The last time I checked, the only way I could see the bootable stick was via 
> the Option key-press at startup.
> 
> I have not yet made a bootable High Sierra stick so cannot confirm this but 
> such was definitely the case in the previous OS.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 1:29 AM
> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
> Subject: Bootable usb stick is not bootable.
> 
> Hi!
> I have created a bootable usb stick with Hi sierra as i have to do a clean 
> install.
> The problem is that its not in the startdisk selection when i go to system 
> prefs and start disk.
> I think i have made a mistake by formatting it to Mac os extended journal.
> I am not sure if this matters or not.
> Is there a way of checking wheather the downloaded installer may be corrupt 
> or something else may have gone south?
> How big should the installer package be when its downloaded.
> Mine is 5 gb.
> Thanks in advance.
> /A
> 

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RE: Bootable usb stick is not bootable.

[Simon Fogarty]

Yes I to can confirm that the usb bootable installers do show up in start up 
disk.

 However there is an issue if the bootable USB has an older version of the mac 
os installer 
An older version wont show up in the start up disk 

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On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Tuesday, 16 January 2018 9:45 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bootable usb stick is not bootable.

Hi Mark,

I have not experienced what you are stating.  In all previous version of the 
MacOS bootable installer on a USB stick that I have created, it was visible 
through the Startup Disk.  I just tested my High Sierra USB installer and it 
was visible in the Startup Disk pane as well.  I'm certainly not disputing that 
you've had that experience, but it is not the morn.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 15, 2018, at 13:31, M. Taylor  wrote:

Anders,

As I recall, in all previous versions of Mac OS, even if the bootable stick is 
prepared correctly, it does not show up in the Startup Disk preferences dialog 
box.

The last time I checked, the only way I could see the bootable stick was via 
the Option key-press at startup.  

I have not yet made a bootable High Sierra stick so cannot confirm this but 
such was definitely the case in the previous OS.

Mark 

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On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 1:29 AM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Subject: Bootable usb stick is not bootable.

Hi!
I have created a bootable usb stick with Hi sierra as i have to do a clean 
install.
The problem is that its not in the startdisk selection when i go to system 
prefs and start disk.
I think i have made a mistake by formatting it to Mac os extended journal.
I am not sure if this matters or not.
Is there a way of checking wheather the downloaded installer may be corrupt or 
something else may have gone south?
How big should the installer package be when its downloaded.
Mine is 5 gb.
Thanks in advance.
/A

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RE: Bootable usb stick is not bootable.

[Simon Fogarty]

That's not the way to create a bootable USB device,

 You need about 7gig for high sierra 
Terminal for the command to create the bootable USB,
 And the installer file (file name.app) from within the download package.
The usb needs to be mac os extended journaled 
And GUID 
But the terminal command will format the drive as part of the setup.

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On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Tuesday, 16 January 2018 6:51 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bootable usb stick is not bootable.

Hi!
I actually did it from the terminal.
Now i have tried re downloading the installer and put it via the terminal onto 
the usb stick.
I will now try to boot it up and see if it works.
/A

> 15 jan. 2018 kl. 17:20 skrev Tim Kilburn :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Formatting it to MacOS X Extended - Journaled should be fine.  Not sure why 
> it's not working for you though.  Which method did you use to create the 
> bootable stick?  5 GB sounds about right, it's usually 5 point something GB 
> for the MacOS installers.  I suggest you try it one more time in case the 
> first time had unforeseen problems.  The other thing to try, is to start up 
> in the Recovery partition, then go to the Apple menu and Startup Disk.  It's 
> possible that the Mac is being uncooperative due to the APFS vs HFS 
> formatting.  This usually shouldn't be an issue as APFS sees HFS just fine, 
> it's the other way around that doesn't always work as you might be accustomed 
> to.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jan 15, 2018, at 02:29, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I have created a bootable usb stick with Hi sierra as i have to do a clean 
> install.
> The problem is that its not in the startdisk selection when i go to system 
> prefs and start disk.
> I think i have made a mistake by formatting it to Mac os extended journal.
> I am not sure if this matters or not.
> Is there a way of checking wheather the downloaded installer may be corrupt 
> or something else may have gone south?
> How big should the installer package be when its downloaded.
> Mine is 5 gb.
> Thanks in advance.
> /A
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Re: Command to email link in Safari no longer works?

[Antonio Guimaraes]

Rebooting did fix the issue with the command.

Antonio

> On Jan 15, 2018, at 10:26 PM, Antonio Guimaraes  
> wrote:
> 
> I'll have to reboot, and report back.
> 
> Antonio
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 14, 2018, at 2:04 PM, John Panarese > > wrote:
>> 
>>This is still working here in High Sierra.
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
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>>> On Jan 14, 2018, at 1:48 PM, Antonio Guimaraes >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Command+shift+I in Safari used to open mail with a message containing the 
>>> current URL.
>>> 
>>> This was an easy way to send someone a link to any website I was on.
>>> 
>>> This command seems not to be working any longer. 
>>> 
>>> I'm using Safari 11.0.2.
>>> 
>>> Could anyone confirm this?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
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Re: Command to email link in Safari no longer works?

[Antonio Guimaraes]

I'll have to reboot, and report back.

Antonio





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>This is still working here in High Sierra.
> 
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> Take Care
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>> On Jan 14, 2018, at 1:48 PM, Antonio Guimaraes > > wrote:
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>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Command+shift+I in Safari used to open mail with a message containing the 
>> current URL.
>> 
>> This was an easy way to send someone a link to any website I was on.
>> 
>> This command seems not to be working any longer. 
>> 
>> I'm using Safari 11.0.2.
>> 
>> Could anyone confirm this?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
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Re: Apple watch

[Jeff Berwick]

Yes.  Two-finger double tap and hold and then move your fingers up or down the 
watch face to increase or decrease the volume.

Jeff


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Apple watch

[Marie Lyons]

Is there a way to increase the volume on the watch?

Marie Lyons

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Re: Bootable usb stick is not bootable.

[E.T.]

   I don't know about that, Mark. I see both of my High Sierra and 
Sierra install sticks. Don't recall not seeing earlier versions of OS X 
either in the startup disk window.


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On 1/15/2018 12:31 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

Anders,

As I recall, in all previous versions of Mac OS, even if the bootable stick is 
prepared correctly, it does not show up in the Startup Disk preferences dialog 
box.

The last time I checked, the only way I could see the bootable stick was via 
the Option key-press at startup.

I have not yet made a bootable High Sierra stick so cannot confirm this but 
such was definitely the case in the previous OS.

Mark

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On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 1:29 AM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Subject: Bootable usb stick is not bootable.

Hi!
I have created a bootable usb stick with Hi sierra as i have to do a clean 
install.
The problem is that its not in the startdisk selection when i go to system 
prefs and start disk.
I think i have made a mistake by formatting it to Mac os extended journal.
I am not sure if this matters or not.
Is there a way of checking wheather the downloaded installer may be corrupt or 
something else may have gone south?
How big should the installer package be when its downloaded.
Mine is 5 gb.
Thanks in advance.
/A



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Re: Keychain

[Agent086b]

Hi,
you are correct. I was talking about the service  Apple Keychain.
Max.

> On 16 Jan 2018, at 12:37 am, Alex Hall  wrote:
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> I read the original message as talking about the Apple service called 
> Keychain. I hope I interpreted things correctly.
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jan 15, 2018, at 03:44, Simon Fogarty  > wrote:
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>> Ok, this is getting confusing,
>>  
>> I take it that there is an app called keychain
>>  
>> Because the mac os and IOS platform have a built in feature called the 
>> keychain.
>>  
>>  
>> Which stores passwords and certs etc
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>  
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> ] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
>> Sent: Monday, 15 January 2018 2:09 PM
>> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries > >
>> Subject: Re: Keychain
>>  
>> I use Keychain, but I use it to store passwords I come up with. It offers, 
>> but I don't let it generate passwords for me. A few things about Keychain:
>>  
>> * It's not for documents, notes, or anything else. It stores secure 
>> information, like credit card details or passwords, for auto-fill in 
>> websites and apps. To store notes, you'd use the Notes app, optionally 
>> password-protecting them.
>>  
>> * Keychain is only available for Apple products. The moment you want to 
>> auto-fill your password from Keychain on Windows or Android, you're out of 
>> luck. This isn't a problem if you live in Apple World as my family does, but 
>> it's worth keeping in mind and could be a show-stopper for plenty of users.
>>  
>> * It can be a little complex to set up, using a different code to enable on 
>> macOS and doing some other funny things. It's not bad, but it's not a simple 
>> checkbox either.
>>  
>> * Oddly, it will auto-fill at your request. That is, you can use it with no 
>> additional security. On iOS, for instance, you can let it fill in a card or 
>> password, no Touch ID necessary. Of course, your device has to be unlocked, 
>> but it's still worth remembering that anyone can log in or fill in cards if 
>> they have your unlocked device. They can't see passwords, and auto-filled 
>> cards that need a security code still make you enter the code.
>>  
>> That's all I can think of off the top of my head.
>> 
>> --
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>>  
>>  
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 14, 2018, at 20:01, Agent086b > > wrote:
>>  
>> Hi all,
>> I am thinking of switching later this year to using Keychain to store my 
>> passwords etc. I have been using Lastpas since about 2010. Since they were 
>> purchased by Log Me In INC the price has doubled to $24.00 US per year. That 
>> is not much except the Australian Dollar is usually between 70c  & 80c US. 
>> Are people using Keychain? if so can you store  documents or as Lastpas 
>> calls them secure notes. In notes I store passwords for Apps and things like 
>> safe combination for a safe and other things that if I have died my wife can 
>> find them. 
>> Thanks as always for any help.
>> Max.
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Re: Bootable usb stick is not bootable.

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi Mark,

I have not experienced what you are stating.  In all previous version of the 
MacOS bootable installer on a USB stick that I have created, it was visible 
through the Startup Disk.  I just tested my High Sierra USB installer and it 
was visible in the Startup Disk pane as well.  I'm certainly not disputing that 
you've had that experience, but it is not the morn.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 15, 2018, at 13:31, M. Taylor  wrote:

Anders,

As I recall, in all previous versions of Mac OS, even if the bootable stick is 
prepared correctly, it does not show up in the Startup Disk preferences dialog 
box.

The last time I checked, the only way I could see the bootable stick was via 
the Option key-press at startup.  

I have not yet made a bootable High Sierra stick so cannot confirm this but 
such was definitely the case in the previous OS.

Mark 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 1:29 AM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Subject: Bootable usb stick is not bootable.

Hi!
I have created a bootable usb stick with Hi sierra as i have to do a clean 
install.
The problem is that its not in the startdisk selection when i go to system 
prefs and start disk.
I think i have made a mistake by formatting it to Mac os extended journal.
I am not sure if this matters or not.
Is there a way of checking wheather the downloaded installer may be corrupt or 
something else may have gone south?
How big should the installer package be when its downloaded.
Mine is 5 gb.
Thanks in advance.
/A

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RE: Heres a Link to get the previous version of Skype if you need it.

[M. Taylor]

Hello Chuck and thank you for this information.

Mark

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On Behalf Of CHUCK REICHEL
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 11:47 AM
To: macvisionaries
Subject: Heres a Link to get the previous version of Skype if you need it.

Hi list,
This will help anybody looking for the previous version of Skype.

https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA34825/accessibility-features-in-the-new-skype-for-windows-mac-and-linux
heres a blurb from their site;


Skype is designed to work with Assistive Technologies, including screen readers 
provided with Windows and MacOS. Microsoft is aware of potential performance 
issues when using the new version of Skype with VoiceOver, on older versions of 
MacOS. Microsoft recommends updating to the latest version of MacOS, and 
installing available updates.
We're continually working to improve accessibility in Skype, but if you prefer 
the previous experience you can download it.
I did and its night and day better than the new 1! :)

HTH
Chuck
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RE: Contact data for Microsoft's dedicated accessibility help desk

[M. Taylor]

Hello Janina,

Thank you for posting this info.

Yes, the techs at this number are excellent.  

I have called them several times during the past two years and they have 
resolved my issues, beautifully.

Mark

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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Contact data for Microsoft's dedicated accessibility help desk

Hi All:

For everyone who's interested in contact data for the dedicated accessibility 
support desk service offered by Microsoft, the web page you want to bookmark is:

https://support.microsoft.com/answerdesk/accessibility


They have a phone number you can call in the U.S.:

+1 800 936 5900

I have it on good authority these are specialists trained especially to help 
persons with disabilities use Windows and Office. They're based in Denver.

Janina

Jonathan Cohn writes:
> Well Virtiual box has a pretty good command line interface. Did you get the 
> number for the Microsoft Accessibility help desk?
> 
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
> > On Jan 13, 2018, at 11:09 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Hi, Anders:
> > 
> > Yeah, I'm starting to be tired of handing VMware a few hundred $$ 
> > every few years.
> > 
> > I'm seriously thinking of switching to VirtualBox. I expect a 
> > steeper learning curve, but more consistent maintanance.
> > 
> > Anders Holmberg writes:
> >> Hi Janina!
> >> Yeah typically i also have a tight budget this month.
> >> I had to pay 150 bucks for repairing the display of my moto g5 and i think 
> >> i was stupid leaving it for repair as i have a nokia 8 now too.
> >> Therefore i can’t buy the upgrade for vmware fusion.
> >> Very frustrating.
> >> /A
> >> 
> >>> 12 jan. 2018 kl. 07:46 skrev 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> >>> :
> >>> 
> >>> Hi, Anders:
> >>> 
> >>> I suspect that option might still be there for the paid version. 
> >>> It certainly was last time I used VMware, which was version 8.5.0
> >>> 
> >>> All I'm saying is that the option is not there in the 30day trial 
> >>> status of VMware 10.1.1.
> >>> 
> >>> I upgraded the other day, through a couple iterations as directed 
> >>> by the VMware tool itself, from 8.5.0 all the way to version 
> >>> 10.1.1, but I did not opt to pay for a license as my funds are 
> >>> typically tight early January.
> >>> 
> >>> Janina
> >>> 
> >>> Anders Holmberg writes:
>  Hi!
> > From what i understand you should be able to move the bootcamp to a 
> > virtual machine.
>  But i haven’t done this so i can’t say for sure but when i pressed 
>  command n i found a table with a lot of options.
>  One of these options was to use a bootcamp partition.
>  /A
>  
> > 11 jan. 2018 kl. 00:46 skrev Georgina Joyce :
> > 
> > Hello Janina,
> > 
> > Well I’m tired of this and I’m going to get some sleep.
> > 
> > My MacBook Air 2013 uses a driver Cirrus Audio CS4208 X64 driver. I 
> > have found several Apple resources then I found this Microsoft resource.
> > 
> > https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-har
> > dware/windows-10-and-macbook-air-external-speaker/332a9694-3636-
> > 456e-bb55-4894bd066dd8 
> >  > rdware/windows-10-and-macbook-air-external-speaker/332a9694-3636
> > -456e-bb55-4894bd066dd8>
> > 
> > Where as Apple tell us to get the latest driver this article suggests a 
> > roll back may solve the issue. I’ve tried downloading from a site but 
> > meet a graphical challenge.
> > 
> > Let us know if you crack it.
> > 
> > Gena
> > 
> > “Blindness is not a handicap, it is something I have always lived with. 
> > The real handicap is the prejudices people have about blindness.”
> > 
> > Michael Hinson 2011
> > 
> >> On 10 Jan 2018, at 21:07, Georgina Joyce  >> > wrote:
> >> 
> >> Hello Janina,
> >> 
> >> Well sound has died via my headset too. I didn’t get to the device 
> >> manager to see the driver status.
> >> 
> >> What the ….. is going on?
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Gena
> >> 
> >> Call: M0EBP
> >> Loc: IO83PS
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> On 10 Jan 2018, at 20:50, Georgina Joyce  >>> > wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Hello Janina,
> >>> 
> >>> Well good but bad news. I’ve been using my MacBook Air’s bootcamp 
> >>> partition for about an hour. I’ve lost audio. Just plugged in my USB 
> >>> headset that I used to install Windows. It made the new hardware 
> >>> sound through the headset and NVDA announced installing 

RE: Bootable usb stick is not bootable.

[M. Taylor]

Anders,

As I recall, in all previous versions of Mac OS, even if the bootable stick is 
prepared correctly, it does not show up in the Startup Disk preferences dialog 
box.

The last time I checked, the only way I could see the bootable stick was via 
the Option key-press at startup.  

I have not yet made a bootable High Sierra stick so cannot confirm this but 
such was definitely the case in the previous OS.

Mark 

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 1:29 AM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Subject: Bootable usb stick is not bootable.

Hi!
I have created a bootable usb stick with Hi sierra as i have to do a clean 
install.
The problem is that its not in the startdisk selection when i go to system 
prefs and start disk.
I think i have made a mistake by formatting it to Mac os extended journal.
I am not sure if this matters or not.
Is there a way of checking wheather the downloaded installer may be corrupt or 
something else may have gone south?
How big should the installer package be when its downloaded.
Mine is 5 gb.
Thanks in advance.
/A

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Heres a Link to get the previous version of Skype if you need it.

[CHUCK REICHEL]

Hi list,
This will help anybody looking for the previous version of Skype.

https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA34825/accessibility-features-in-the-new-skype-for-windows-mac-and-linux
heres a blurb from their site;


Skype is designed to work with Assistive Technologies, including screen readers 
provided with Windows and MacOS. Microsoft is aware of potential performance 
issues when using the new version of Skype with VoiceOver, on older versions of 
MacOS. Microsoft recommends updating to the latest version of MacOS, and 
installing available updates.
We're continually working to improve accessibility in Skype, but if you prefer 
the previous experience you can download it.
I did and its night and day better than the new 1! :)

HTH
Chuck
"God does not play dice with the universe"
"Albert Einstein’


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Re: Bootable usb stick is not bootable.

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi Anders,

You cannot simply copy the installer over to the USB stick when creating this 
via Terminal.  What you need to do is:

1.  Use a minimum 8 GB USB stick.
2.  Format the USB stick to MacOS Extended (Journaled) and make sure it is 
named "Untitled".
3.  Make sure that the High Sierra installer is in the Applications folder of 
your Mac.
4.  Enter the following into terminal:

sudo /Applications/Install\ macOS\ High\ 
Sierra.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/Untitled 
--applicationpath /Applications/Install\ macOS\ High\ Sierra.app --nointeraction

5.  Press return.
6.  Terminal will ask for your password.  Enter it and go have a drink.  The 
process should take about half an hour.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 15, 2018, at 10:51, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
I actually did it from the terminal.
Now i have tried re downloading the installer and put it via the terminal onto 
the usb stick.
I will now try to boot it up and see if it works.
/A

> 15 jan. 2018 kl. 17:20 skrev Tim Kilburn :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Formatting it to MacOS X Extended - Journaled should be fine.  Not sure why 
> it's not working for you though.  Which method did you use to create the 
> bootable stick?  5 GB sounds about right, it's usually 5 point something GB 
> for the MacOS installers.  I suggest you try it one more time in case the 
> first time had unforeseen problems.  The other thing to try, is to start up 
> in the Recovery partition, then go to the Apple menu and Startup Disk.  It's 
> possible that the Mac is being uncooperative due to the APFS vs HFS 
> formatting.  This usually shouldn't be an issue as APFS sees HFS just fine, 
> it's the other way around that doesn't always work as you might be accustomed 
> to.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jan 15, 2018, at 02:29, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I have created a bootable usb stick with Hi sierra as i have to do a clean 
> install.
> The problem is that its not in the startdisk selection when i go to system 
> prefs and start disk.
> I think i have made a mistake by formatting it to Mac os extended journal.
> I am not sure if this matters or not.
> Is there a way of checking wheather the downloaded installer may be corrupt 
> or something else may have gone south?
> How big should the installer package be when its downloaded.
> Mine is 5 gb.
> Thanks in advance.
> /A
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Re: Bootable usb stick is not bootable.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I actually did it from the terminal.
Now i have tried re downloading the installer and put it via the terminal onto 
the usb stick.
I will now try to boot it up and see if it works.
/A

> 15 jan. 2018 kl. 17:20 skrev Tim Kilburn :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Formatting it to MacOS X Extended - Journaled should be fine.  Not sure why 
> it's not working for you though.  Which method did you use to create the 
> bootable stick?  5 GB sounds about right, it's usually 5 point something GB 
> for the MacOS installers.  I suggest you try it one more time in case the 
> first time had unforeseen problems.  The other thing to try, is to start up 
> in the Recovery partition, then go to the Apple menu and Startup Disk.  It's 
> possible that the Mac is being uncooperative due to the APFS vs HFS 
> formatting.  This usually shouldn't be an issue as APFS sees HFS just fine, 
> it's the other way around that doesn't always work as you might be accustomed 
> to.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jan 15, 2018, at 02:29, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I have created a bootable usb stick with Hi sierra as i have to do a clean 
> install.
> The problem is that its not in the startdisk selection when i go to system 
> prefs and start disk.
> I think i have made a mistake by formatting it to Mac os extended journal.
> I am not sure if this matters or not.
> Is there a way of checking wheather the downloaded installer may be corrupt 
> or something else may have gone south?
> How big should the installer package be when its downloaded.
> Mine is 5 gb.
> Thanks in advance.
> /A
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Re: Reference books for Apple accessibility?

[Janet Ingber]

Go to National Braille Press nbp.org. Put in Mac in the search box.  I believe 
there is a book on Apple Watch.  Also download the AccessWorld iOS app.  There 
are articles and they are free.

David Woodbridge does excellent podcasts.  Many of them are on Apple products.  
Go to 
davidwoodbr.podbean.com

Check out AppleVis www.applevis.com   The site hads a lot of great information.

Hope this helps.
Janet
> On Jan 15, 2018, at 9:30 AM, John JD Denning  wrote:
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> Hi all, are there any books, documents to help learning all the voiceover in 
> accessibility features for both the Apple Watch, and the Mack OS? I’m aware 
> of a book written for iOS.
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Re: Bootable usb stick is not bootable.

[E.T.]

Anders,
   macOD Extended Journaled and size is fine. Check the code if using 
Terminal. Rename the USB to Untitled and run the code below.


sudo /Applications/Install\ macOS\ High\ 
Sierra.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume 
/Volumes/Untitled --applicationpath /Applications/Install\ macOS\ High\ 
Sierra.app --nointeraction & Done


   Or use an app called "Install Disk Creator" from 
. It does all the hard work 
for you.


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On 1/15/2018 1:29 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Mac os extended journal.


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Re: Bootable usb stick is not bootable.

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Formatting it to MacOS X Extended - Journaled should be fine.  Not sure why 
it's not working for you though.  Which method did you use to create the 
bootable stick?  5 GB sounds about right, it's usually 5 point something GB for 
the MacOS installers.  I suggest you try it one more time in case the first 
time had unforeseen problems.  The other thing to try, is to start up in the 
Recovery partition, then go to the Apple menu and Startup Disk.  It's possible 
that the Mac is being uncooperative due to the APFS vs HFS formatting.  This 
usually shouldn't be an issue as APFS sees HFS just fine, it's the other way 
around that doesn't always work as you might be accustomed to.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 15, 2018, at 02:29, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
I have created a bootable usb stick with Hi sierra as i have to do a clean 
install.
The problem is that its not in the startdisk selection when i go to system 
prefs and start disk.
I think i have made a mistake by formatting it to Mac os extended journal.
I am not sure if this matters or not.
Is there a way of checking wheather the downloaded installer may be corrupt or 
something else may have gone south?
How big should the installer package be when its downloaded.
Mine is 5 gb.
Thanks in advance.
/A

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Reference books for Apple accessibility?

[John JD Denning]

Hi all, are there any books, documents to help learning all the voiceover in 
accessibility features for both the Apple Watch, and the Mack OS? I’m aware of 
a book written for iOS.

Sent from my iPhone

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Alex Braillenote question please write offlist

[Stacey Robinson]

Alex,
I couldn’t find your address in my contacts so could you please write me off 
list.
I saw on Braillenote users that you
 had created some programs for the Braillenote apex.
I would like to learn where to find these and what you have.
Peace,
Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.

stacey...@bellsouth.net

> On Jan 15, 2018, at 7:37 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> I read the original message as talking about the Apple service called 
> Keychain. I hope I interpreted things correctly.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 15, 2018, at 03:44, Simon Fogarty  > wrote:
> 
>> Ok, this is getting confusing,
>>  
>> I take it that there is an app called keychain
>>  
>> Because the mac os and IOS platform have a built in feature called the 
>> keychain.
>>  
>>  
>> Which stores passwords and certs etc
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>  ] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
>> Sent: Monday, 15 January 2018 2:09 PM
>> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries > >
>> Subject: Re: Keychain
>>  
>> I use Keychain, but I use it to store passwords I come up with. It offers, 
>> but I don't let it generate passwords for me. A few things about Keychain:
>>  
>> * It's not for documents, notes, or anything else. It stores secure 
>> information, like credit card details or passwords, for auto-fill in 
>> websites and apps. To store notes, you'd use the Notes app, optionally 
>> password-protecting them.
>>  
>> * Keychain is only available for Apple products. The moment you want to 
>> auto-fill your password from Keychain on Windows or Android, you're out of 
>> luck. This isn't a problem if you live in Apple World as my family does, but 
>> it's worth keeping in mind and could be a show-stopper for plenty of users.
>>  
>> * It can be a little complex to set up, using a different code to enable on 
>> macOS and doing some other funny things. It's not bad, but it's not a simple 
>> checkbox either.
>>  
>> * Oddly, it will auto-fill at your request. That is, you can use it with no 
>> additional security. On iOS, for instance, you can let it fill in a card or 
>> password, no Touch ID necessary. Of course, your device has to be unlocked, 
>> but it's still worth remembering that anyone can log in or fill in cards if 
>> they have your unlocked device. They can't see passwords, and auto-filled 
>> cards that need a security code still make you enter the code.
>>  
>> That's all I can think of off the top of my head.
>> 
>> --
>> Alex Hall
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 14, 2018, at 20:01, Agent086b > > wrote:
>>  
>> Hi all,
>> I am thinking of switching later this year to using Keychain to store my 
>> passwords etc. I have been using Lastpas since about 2010. Since they were 
>> purchased by Log Me In INC the price has doubled to $24.00 US per year. That 
>> is not much except the Australian Dollar is usually between 70c  & 80c US. 
>> Are people using Keychain? if so can you store  documents or as Lastpas 
>> calls them secure notes. In notes I store passwords for Apps and things like 
>> safe combination for a safe and other things that if I have died my wife can 
>> find them. 
>> Thanks as always for any help.
>> Max.
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Re: Keychain

[Alex Hall]

I read the original message as talking about the Apple service called Keychain. 
I hope I interpreted things correctly.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 15, 2018, at 03:44, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Ok, this is getting confusing,
>  
> I take it that there is an app called keychain
>  
> Because the mac os and IOS platform have a built in feature called the 
> keychain.
>  
>  
> Which stores passwords and certs etc
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
> Sent: Monday, 15 January 2018 2:09 PM
> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Re: Keychain
>  
> I use Keychain, but I use it to store passwords I come up with. It offers, 
> but I don't let it generate passwords for me. A few things about Keychain:
>  
> * It's not for documents, notes, or anything else. It stores secure 
> information, like credit card details or passwords, for auto-fill in websites 
> and apps. To store notes, you'd use the Notes app, optionally 
> password-protecting them.
>  
> * Keychain is only available for Apple products. The moment you want to 
> auto-fill your password from Keychain on Windows or Android, you're out of 
> luck. This isn't a problem if you live in Apple World as my family does, but 
> it's worth keeping in mind and could be a show-stopper for plenty of users.
>  
> * It can be a little complex to set up, using a different code to enable on 
> macOS and doing some other funny things. It's not bad, but it's not a simple 
> checkbox either.
>  
> * Oddly, it will auto-fill at your request. That is, you can use it with no 
> additional security. On iOS, for instance, you can let it fill in a card or 
> password, no Touch ID necessary. Of course, your device has to be unlocked, 
> but it's still worth remembering that anyone can log in or fill in cards if 
> they have your unlocked device. They can't see passwords, and auto-filled 
> cards that need a security code still make you enter the code.
>  
> That's all I can think of off the top of my head.
> 
> --
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>  
>  
>  
> 
> 
> On Jan 14, 2018, at 20:01, Agent086b  wrote:
>  
> Hi all,
> I am thinking of switching later this year to using Keychain to store my 
> passwords etc. I have been using Lastpas since about 2010. Since they were 
> purchased by Log Me In INC the price has doubled to $24.00 US per year. That 
> is not much except the Australian Dollar is usually between 70c  & 80c US. 
> Are people using Keychain? if so can you store  documents or as Lastpas calls 
> them secure notes. In notes I store passwords for Apps and things like safe 
> combination for a safe and other things that if I have died my wife can find 
> them. 
> Thanks as always for any help.
> Max.
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Re: Keychain

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

I'm also in the process of leaving Last Pass.

I'm currently working on switching to Pass:

https://www.passwordstore.org/


I'm currently at a threshold problem in this process--I need to update
my gpg keys, and that's become an issue for reasons I won't bore you
with.

However, I'm attacted to Pass because:

*   It offers clients for all my OS platforms and smart devices,
*   including integration with most of my browsers

*   If a browser I use doesn't have a Pass plugin, I can use the
*   cliboard easily

*   I really, really like the organizational structure of Pass,
*   where every site's data is ina single file unlockable by your
*   gpg key. That makes Pass highly portable, fully accessible, and
*   quite secure, imo.

Just my contribution to the question. The app you're looking at may be
an excellent app. I've no knowledge of that.

Janina

Agent086b writes:
> Hi all,
> I am thinking of switching later this year to using Keychain to store my 
> passwords etc. I have been using Lastpas since about 2010. Since they were 
> purchased by Log Me In INC the price has doubled to $24.00 US per year. That 
> is not much except the Australian Dollar is usually between 70c  & 80c US. 
> Are people using Keychain? if so can you store  documents or as Lastpas calls 
> them secure notes. In notes I store passwords for Apps and things like safe 
> combination for a safe and other things that if I have died my wife can find 
> them. 
> Thanks as always for any help.
> Max.
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Re: VMware Fusion 10.1.1 and BootCamp

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I actually want to buy a windows 10 license just to try this out myself.
I am not familiar with fedora at all.
Am sadly a bit prejudiced about other distros of linux.
Debian or nothing else *lol*.
BUt i guess they are more similar to each other than different.
/A

> 14 jan. 2018 kl. 13:03 skrev 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Yes, that's exactly what I'm thinking.
> 
> Right now I'm playing with Ubuntu under Microsoft Windows in my BootCamp
> partition. Who'd have ever thought of such a thing even ten years ago?
> I'll wait for the release of Fedora under Windows WS, as that's the
> distro I'll want to keep being that I'm far more familiar with Fedora
> than Ubuntu.
> 
> Anders Holmberg writes:
>> Hi!
>> Some of the virtualbox gui interface is accessible but i wouldn’t use that 
>> if i were you.
>> THere are commands for virtualbox from terminal so i guess you just ssh into 
>> your mac and do the configuring and then use it from the mac itself when all 
>> is setup.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 13 jan. 2018 kl. 17:09 skrev 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> Hi, Anders:
>>> 
>>> Yeah, I'm starting to be tired of handing VMware a few hundred $$ every
>>> few years.
>>> 
>>> I'm seriously thinking of switching to VirtualBox. I expect a steeper
>>> learning curve, but more consistent maintanance.
>>> 
>>> Anders Holmberg writes:
 Hi Janina!
 Yeah typically i also have a tight budget this month.
 I had to pay 150 bucks for repairing the display of my moto g5 and i think 
 i was stupid leaving it for repair as i have a nokia 8 now too.
 Therefore i can’t buy the upgrade for vmware fusion.
 Very frustrating.
 /A
 
> 12 jan. 2018 kl. 07:46 skrev 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hi, Anders:
> 
> I suspect that option might still be there for the paid version. It
> certainly was last time I used VMware, which was version 8.5.0
> 
> All I'm saying is that the option is not there in the 30day trial status
> of VMware 10.1.1.
> 
> I upgraded the other day, through a couple iterations as directed by the
> VMware tool itself, from 8.5.0 all the way to version 10.1.1, but I did
> not opt to pay for a license as my funds are typically tight early
> January.
> 
> Janina
> 
> Anders Holmberg writes:
>> Hi!
>>> From what i understand you should be able to move the bootcamp to a 
>>> virtual machine.
>> But i haven’t done this so i can’t say for sure but when i pressed 
>> command n i found a table with a lot of options.
>> One of these options was to use a bootcamp partition.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 11 jan. 2018 kl. 00:46 skrev Georgina Joyce :
>>> 
>>> Hello Janina,
>>> 
>>> Well I’m tired of this and I’m going to get some sleep.
>>> 
>>> My MacBook Air 2013 uses a driver Cirrus Audio CS4208 X64 driver. I 
>>> have found several Apple resources then I found this Microsoft resource.
>>> 
>>> https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-hardware/windows-10-and-macbook-air-external-speaker/332a9694-3636-456e-bb55-4894bd066dd8
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Where as Apple tell us to get the latest driver this article suggests a 
>>> roll back may solve the issue. I’ve tried downloading from a site but 
>>> meet a graphical challenge.
>>> 
>>> Let us know if you crack it.
>>> 
>>> Gena
>>> 
>>> “Blindness is not a handicap, it is something I have always lived with. 
>>> The real handicap is the prejudices people have about blindness.”
>>> 
>>> Michael Hinson 2011
>>> 
 On 10 Jan 2018, at 21:07, Georgina Joyce > wrote:
 
 Hello Janina,
 
 Well sound has died via my headset too. I didn’t get to the device 
 manager to see the driver status.
 
 What the ….. is going on?
 
 
 
 Gena
 
 Call: M0EBP
 Loc: IO83PS
 
 
 
> On 10 Jan 2018, at 20:50, Georgina Joyce  > wrote:
> 
> Hello Janina,
> 
> Well good but bad news. I’ve been using my MacBook Air’s bootcamp 
> partition for about an hour. I’ve lost audio. Just plugged in my USB 
> headset that I used to install Windows. It made the new hardware 
> sound through the headset and NVDA announced installing software for 
> the new device. So I have lost sound via it’s own speakers and have 
> sound through an independent sound card. 

Contact data for Microsoft's dedicated accessibility help desk

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

Hi All:

For everyone who's interested in contact data for the dedicated
accessibility support desk service offered by Microsoft, the web page
you want to bookmark is:

https://support.microsoft.com/answerdesk/accessibility


They have a phone number you can call in the U.S.:

+1 800 936 5900

I have it on good authority these are specialists trained especially to
help persons with disabilities use Windows and Office. They're based in
Denver.

Janina

Jonathan Cohn writes:
> Well Virtiual box has a pretty good command line interface. Did you get the 
> number for the Microsoft Accessibility help desk?
> 
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
> > On Jan 13, 2018, at 11:09 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Hi, Anders:
> > 
> > Yeah, I'm starting to be tired of handing VMware a few hundred $$ every
> > few years.
> > 
> > I'm seriously thinking of switching to VirtualBox. I expect a steeper
> > learning curve, but more consistent maintanance.
> > 
> > Anders Holmberg writes:
> >> Hi Janina!
> >> Yeah typically i also have a tight budget this month.
> >> I had to pay 150 bucks for repairing the display of my moto g5 and i think 
> >> i was stupid leaving it for repair as i have a nokia 8 now too.
> >> Therefore i can’t buy the upgrade for vmware fusion.
> >> Very frustrating.
> >> /A
> >> 
> >>> 12 jan. 2018 kl. 07:46 skrev 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> >>> :
> >>> 
> >>> Hi, Anders:
> >>> 
> >>> I suspect that option might still be there for the paid version. It
> >>> certainly was last time I used VMware, which was version 8.5.0
> >>> 
> >>> All I'm saying is that the option is not there in the 30day trial status
> >>> of VMware 10.1.1.
> >>> 
> >>> I upgraded the other day, through a couple iterations as directed by the
> >>> VMware tool itself, from 8.5.0 all the way to version 10.1.1, but I did
> >>> not opt to pay for a license as my funds are typically tight early
> >>> January.
> >>> 
> >>> Janina
> >>> 
> >>> Anders Holmberg writes:
>  Hi!
> > From what i understand you should be able to move the bootcamp to a 
> > virtual machine.
>  But i haven’t done this so i can’t say for sure but when i pressed 
>  command n i found a table with a lot of options.
>  One of these options was to use a bootcamp partition.
>  /A
>  
> > 11 jan. 2018 kl. 00:46 skrev Georgina Joyce :
> > 
> > Hello Janina,
> > 
> > Well I’m tired of this and I’m going to get some sleep.
> > 
> > My MacBook Air 2013 uses a driver Cirrus Audio CS4208 X64 driver. I 
> > have found several Apple resources then I found this Microsoft resource.
> > 
> > https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-hardware/windows-10-and-macbook-air-external-speaker/332a9694-3636-456e-bb55-4894bd066dd8
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > Where as Apple tell us to get the latest driver this article suggests a 
> > roll back may solve the issue. I’ve tried downloading from a site but 
> > meet a graphical challenge.
> > 
> > Let us know if you crack it.
> > 
> > Gena
> > 
> > “Blindness is not a handicap, it is something I have always lived with. 
> > The real handicap is the prejudices people have about blindness.”
> > 
> > Michael Hinson 2011
> > 
> >> On 10 Jan 2018, at 21:07, Georgina Joyce  >> > wrote:
> >> 
> >> Hello Janina,
> >> 
> >> Well sound has died via my headset too. I didn’t get to the device 
> >> manager to see the driver status.
> >> 
> >> What the ….. is going on?
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Gena
> >> 
> >> Call: M0EBP
> >> Loc: IO83PS
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> On 10 Jan 2018, at 20:50, Georgina Joyce  >>> > wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Hello Janina,
> >>> 
> >>> Well good but bad news. I’ve been using my MacBook Air’s bootcamp 
> >>> partition for about an hour. I’ve lost audio. Just plugged in my USB 
> >>> headset that I used to install Windows. It made the new hardware 
> >>> sound through the headset and NVDA announced installing software for 
> >>> the new device. So I have lost sound via it’s own speakers and have 
> >>> sound through an independent sound card. So you were right it’s a 
> >>> driver issue.
> >>> 
> >>> Now why should Windows mess about with a driver while it is in use?
> >>> 
> >>> Regards,
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Gena
> >>> 
> >>> Georgina Joyce
> >>> Applied Psychologist
> >>> Training and Coaching.
> >>> Because individuals of groups matter!
> >>> 

Bootable usb stick is not bootable.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I have created a bootable usb stick with Hi sierra as i have to do a clean 
install.
The problem is that its not in the startdisk selection when i go to system 
prefs and start disk.
I think i have made a mistake by formatting it to Mac os extended journal.
I am not sure if this matters or not.
Is there a way of checking wheather the downloaded installer may be corrupt or 
something else may have gone south?
How big should the installer package be when its downloaded.
Mine is 5 gb.
Thanks in advance.
/A

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RE: Keychain

[Simon Fogarty]

Ok, this is getting confusing,

I take it that there is an app called keychain

Because the mac os and IOS platform have a built in feature called the keychain.


Which stores passwords and certs etc
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Alex Hall
Sent: Monday, 15 January 2018 2:09 PM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: Keychain

I use Keychain, but I use it to store passwords I come up with. It offers, but 
I don't let it generate passwords for me. A few things about Keychain:

* It's not for documents, notes, or anything else. It stores secure 
information, like credit card details or passwords, for auto-fill in websites 
and apps. To store notes, you'd use the Notes app, optionally 
password-protecting them.

* Keychain is only available for Apple products. The moment you want to 
auto-fill your password from Keychain on Windows or Android, you're out of 
luck. This isn't a problem if you live in Apple World as my family does, but 
it's worth keeping in mind and could be a show-stopper for plenty of users.

* It can be a little complex to set up, using a different code to enable on 
macOS and doing some other funny things. It's not bad, but it's not a simple 
checkbox either.

* Oddly, it will auto-fill at your request. That is, you can use it with no 
additional security. On iOS, for instance, you can let it fill in a card or 
password, no Touch ID necessary. Of course, your device has to be unlocked, but 
it's still worth remembering that anyone can log in or fill in cards if they 
have your unlocked device. They can't see passwords, and auto-filled cards that 
need a security code still make you enter the code.

That's all I can think of off the top of my head.

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On Jan 14, 2018, at 20:01, Agent086b 
> wrote:

Hi all,
I am thinking of switching later this year to using Keychain to store my 
passwords etc. I have been using Lastpas since about 2010. Since they were 
purchased by Log Me In INC the price has doubled to $24.00 US per year. That is 
not much except the Australian Dollar is usually between 70c  & 80c US. Are 
people using Keychain? if so can you store  documents or as Lastpas calls them 
secure notes. In notes I store passwords for Apps and things like safe 
combination for a safe and other things that if I have died my wife can find 
them.
Thanks as always for any help.
Max.

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RE: Keychain

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Thomas,

 The key chain in the mac / IOS platforms is really limited to the password and 
related security features of the device,

 Certificates etc.

However with the new file app on the iPhone you may get the best of both worlds 
with secure document management but I've not really looked in to it yet do use 
the key chain on iphone and mac book air.

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On Behalf Of Agent086b
Sent: Monday, 15 January 2018 2:02 PM
To: Mac List 
Subject: Keychain

Hi all,
I am thinking of switching later this year to using Keychain to store my 
passwords etc. I have been using Lastpas since about 2010. Since they were 
purchased by Log Me In INC the price has doubled to $24.00 US per year. That is 
not much except the Australian Dollar is usually between 70c  & 80c US. Are 
people using Keychain? if so can you store  documents or as Lastpas calls them 
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Thanks as always for any help.
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RE: Quick Question about Using an Apple Keyboard with Bootcamp

[Simon Fogarty]

No it's not but it's ok 

Once you have windows installed and the bootcamp drivers setup correctly, then 
if you have the function keys set to act as f1 f2 normal function keys which 
you change under system preferences keyboard in the mac then you can use the 
key combination of

Function key shift and f10 to right click or application key 

I do this everyday on my mac book air running windows 10.

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Des Delgadillo
Sent: Monday, 15 January 2018 6:57 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Quick Question about Using an Apple Keyboard with Bootcamp

Hi all,
I’m sorry if this question’s been asked before if there’s a good tutorial 
available I’d love if anyone could point me to it.

I’m taking the plunge and installing Windows this afternoon, but before I do I 
have a concern about the Mac’s keyboard working with Windows. I’ve read 
somewhere that the applications key isn’t supported on the Apple keyboard. Is 
there a way to re-map the apple keyboard for use on Windows so I have an 
applications key and a modifier key for NVDA?


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