RE: Using My iPad, More and More

[M. Taylor]

Hello E. T., 

Yes, I am definitely using iPad-specific apps, where available.

Mark

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Mark,
Then there is iPadOS which will be very interesting to hear about. 
My iPad mono 4 is not supported so all can do is watch from the sidelines.

Are you using iPad-specific apps such as Skype for iPad?

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On 6/12/2019 10:17 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> Hello All,
> 
> Well, I've had my iPad Pro, 10.5 with the Apple Smart keyboard for a 
> couple of months now.
> 
> At first, I found it somewhat difficult to allocate certain tasks to 
> it that could not be done, or in some cases, more easily done on my 
> beloved iPhone 8 Plus.
> 
> However, as time has passed I have discovered that I prefer performing 
> some tasks on iPad more than on iPhone.
> 
> For example, I definitely enjoy using Twitter, Facebook and other 
> social media such as Yelp on iPad, especially in conjunction with the 
> Apple Smart keyboard.  Also, the TV Guide Mobile app is fabulous on iPad.
> 
> Apps such as Skype work well on iPad and I love the larger display as 
> it brings video calls up close and personal.
> 
> While I continue to listen to audio book, primarily on iPhone, I enjoy 
> reading eBooks on iPad with the larger display.
> 
> The battery power is so much better on iPad than on iPhone that I 
> delegate more battery draining tasks to iPad.
> 
> My point is that while there is some cross-over between iPad and 
> iPhone, I am definitely finding a groove for both in my digital online world.
> 
> Are there some tasks you prefer on iPad rather than iPhone?
> 
> I look forward to all replies.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 

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Everyday tasks that few people do anymore because of technology, USA Today

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

Since many of the items on this list involve iOS, I thought I'd post it here
for all to enjoy.

Mark

Everyday tasks that few people do anymore because of technology, USA Today

Phone book, what's a phone book? 20 everyday tasks that nobody does anymore

Kim Komando  |  Special to USA TODAY Updated 6 hours ago 
USA TODAY
Daily necessities are vanishing one by one, thanks to new and efficient
technology. Stamps, maps and cookbooks still exist, but we hardly ever need
them. Why place a personals ad when you can just "swipe left?"
The standard electronics, gear and ways of yesteryear have vanished as if it
was never invented at all. As old formats disappear, that leaves us with the
task of what to do with our memories. 
Even services that seem new are vanishing in the name of progress; Apple is
killing off iTunes, for example. and here's what it means to your music and
movies.
Here are some rituals that are no longer required in many households. If
you're 40 years or older, you'll probably smile with nostalgia. Share this
list on social media. Others will enjoy this trip down memory lane too!

1.
Memorize a phone number
Pop quiz: How many phone numbers do you know by heart? Some people don't
even know their spouse's numbers. How times have changed. Now, you tell your
smart assistant to call someone in your contacts, or you touch their name on
your phone.
The earliest cellphones required you to transfer your entire directory by
hand, from the old unit to the new one; now, with cloud technology, your
contacts are automatically downloaded.
What happens if you lose your phone, say, at a Disney theme park? This
couple got separated and turned to Facebook for help.

2.
Use a phone book to find a company to do work around your house
Generation Z may not even know what "Yellow Pages" refers to. They may not
have ever seen a phone book.
Online consumer services like Angie's List and Yelp have made finding
service people easy, plus you can read other users' ratings. One of the
newer ways to find ultra-local services is Nextdoor, which has a special
section for "recommendations," along with crime watches and other local
info.

3.
Sell your car with a cardboard sign stuck on the windshield
Unless you're selling your vehicle to someone you know and trust, these
transactions can get sticky and even a little dangerous, especially with all
the trolls. Craigslist started more than 20 years ago, and it's still going
strong, although it, too, still suffers from trolls and weirdos. If you want
to sell your car, here are three sites that may be better than Craigslist.

4.
Figure out math in your head
Few of us ever carried calculators with us to the grocery store. In
contrast, pretty much everyone with a smartphone uses it to do basic
calculations, no matter where or when you need it. In fact, you don't even
have to jab numbers anymore, physical or virtual: Tell Siri to solve a math
problem, or command Alexa to do that pesky long division for you, along with
countless other handy skills.

5.
Call and ask a family member, "Where are you?"
Find My Friends changed the family-safety landscape by geographically
connecting iPhone users. This app was a life-saver for parents with kids,
adults taking care of aging parents, and countless others. Phone Tracker is
a free app for iPhone and Android-powered phones that not only tracks
location but also messaging and web activity.

6.
Tell time by hands on a clock
Like cursive writing, analog clocks may be teetering on extinction. Few
people with smartphones bother with watches anymore, unless they're fashion
statements or fitness trackers. With digital clocks dominating our computers
and hardware, those 12-numeral timepieces may become pure novelties.
Even your trusted alarm clock has received a tech makeover. Click or tap for
three apps that monitor your sleep cycle, and wake you up when you'll feel
the most rested.

7.
Make photo albums
It's hard to imagine printing an image at a one-hour photo store, taking
back your packet of 4x6 snapshots, and then meticulously pasting them into a
faux-leather photo album. Given the ease of digital photography, and the
innumerable images you could produce on a regular day, you'd fill up entire
shelves in no time.
Photo-sharing services like Flickr and Amazon Cloud and have existed for
some years, and now some apps will help you organize your photos and
keepsakes, some of them from well-known companies like CVS and Walgreens.

8.
Have a CD or record collection
Wasn't it cool back in the day to walk into a shabby-chic apartment and see
those shelves of CDs? Wasn't it a joy to flip through boxes of vinyl
records? Napster was the first sign that music could exist as a tiny,
virtual MP3 file, and then iPods basically dealt the death blow.
Today, music exists as a digital index on a screen. Purists may love their
turntables, but CDs have probably gone the way of the wax cylinder. 

9.
Make mixtapes
There was something so special about a 

Re: Using My iPad, More and More

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Should add, use either VO gestures or external keyboard.

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On 6/13/2019 2:43 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries wrote:
    If folks add the option to the rotor, one can easily move next or 
previous container on the iPad. It is called 'container'.


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On 6/13/2019 1:45 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:
In that case, I’ll just carry on not using the iPad. I’m not going to 
miss it anyway.


On 14/06/2019, at 8:34 AM, 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
> wrote:


Split Screen lets you run multiple iPad apps together, side by side. 
You’ll know if you’re using it. You can dismiss a split screen pane 
when it’s active, and you have to activate the feature whenever you 
need it. So unless you’re intentionally using split screen, it’s not 
being used. If you want to disable it completely, you can in General 
settings. However this is different from multi-pane applications, 
like Settings and mail, which drive me nuts. iPads have bigger 
screens so the form factor of apps is different. I’m afraid iPad apps 
are always multi-pane and there’s no way to turn it off, but I’d love 
to be wrong about that.


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Re: Using My iPad, More and More

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   If folks add the option to the rotor, one can easily move next or 
previous container on the iPad. It is called 'container'.


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On 6/13/2019 1:45 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:
In that case, I’ll just carry on not using the iPad. I’m not going to 
miss it anyway.


On 14/06/2019, at 8:34 AM, 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
> wrote:


Split Screen lets you run multiple iPad apps together, side by side. 
You’ll know if you’re using it. You can dismiss a split screen pane 
when it’s active, and you have to activate the feature whenever you 
need it. So unless you’re intentionally using split screen, it’s not 
being used. If you want to disable it completely, you can in General 
settings. However this is different from multi-pane applications, like 
Settings and mail, which drive me nuts. iPads have bigger screens so 
the form factor of apps is different. I’m afraid iPad apps are always 
multi-pane and there’s no way to turn it off, but I’d love to be wrong 
about that.


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Best way to get gmail and apple mail to work together in the best way possible.

[matthew dyer]

Hi all.

I am just wondering what the best way to get mail to work offisionetly with 
gmail.  I have things set for the default behavior with the only exception 
being that archived messages go to an archive folder.  I use several  devices 
most of which use imap.  Is there anything ddifferent either on the gmail side 
or in mail itself I should change.  I see in gmail settings an option to turn 
off auto expunge.  What is the difference between having this on or off?  If 
there is anything else I should do, I would like to know.  Thanks.

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Re: New router or not?

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It depends how you’ll use your AirPorts.

You can turn them into bridges, which means they extend a wireless network 
using Ethernet or wireless. To be honest though, this is mesh network 
territory, and unless you have a particularly ingrained fetish for speed and 
will use Ethernet exclusively as I do, then anything else is preferable, even 
using your power lines for  networking such as HomePlug adaptors.  I have had 
no experience with any particular vendors' mesh products.

Extreme, Time Capsule, and Express do offer network services. Time Capsule, of 
course, can expose a networked disk; this is still useful, if slow. Both 
Extreme and Time Capsule will expose a disk over USB 2.0 through the included 
port, though even more slowly. AirPort Express, of course, can be used for 
AirPlay. All of the devices can share a printer to the network, except that 
most printers nowadays are already networked. The devices are all capable of 
joining your network as a wireless client for these purposes, or you can bridge 
it using Ethernet, and simply turn the Wi-Fi off, just as you would any other 
peripheral.

Finally the Express has a very unique feature: it can join a wireless network, 
in client mode as before, and can then proxy Ethernet devices onto it by 
emulating wireless stations on their behalf. In this way it becomes a kind of 
portable Ethernet jack, for those stations that don't have wireless, like my 
very old BrailleNote Apex that can't reach the 5 GHz band. But naturally this 
is a very unusual need, and there are already extender products on the market 
that do a very similar thing without the added expense and with modern AC Wi-Fi 
or power line networking.

Hope this helps.

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Re: Using My iPad, More and More

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In that case, I’ll just carry on not using the iPad. I’m not going to miss it 
anyway. 

> On 14/06/2019, at 8:34 AM, 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
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> Split Screen lets you run multiple iPad apps together, side by side. You’ll 
> know if you’re using it. You can dismiss a split screen pane when it’s 
> active, and you have to activate the feature whenever you need it. So unless 
> you’re intentionally using split screen, it’s not being used. If you want to 
> disable it completely, you can in General settings. However this is different 
> from multi-pane applications, like Settings and mail, which drive me nuts. 
> iPads have bigger screens so the form factor of apps is different. I’m afraid 
> iPad apps are always multi-pane and there’s no way to turn it off, but I’d 
> love to be wrong about that.
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Re: Using My iPad, More and More

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Split Screen lets you run multiple iPad apps together, side by side. You’ll 
know if you’re using it. You can dismiss a split screen pane when it’s active, 
and you have to activate the feature whenever you need it. So unless you’re 
intentionally using split screen, it’s not being used. If you want to disable 
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be wrong about that.

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Re: New router or not?

['Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries]

I have been reading about the new router is in the Apple Store. I am thinking 
of getting one of these when I get a new iMac around Christmas time. Out of 
interest has anybody been using the new wireless meshes  and are they 
accessible?

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> On 13 Jun 2019, at 9:20 pm, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
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> If I were to choose a non-apple router like Netgear Nighthawk, can I put my 
> existing airport extreeme latest version to some use? Or does it mean selling 
> it on?
> 
> Andrew
>> On Jun 13, 2019, at 8:47 PM, 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I still use a Time Capsule, but in bridged mode for exclusive use as a 
>> wireless access point, with my own Linux box as router doing PPPoE to a VDSL 
>> modem. This overcomes the chief limitation of the device, which is 
>> translation speed beyond about 300 MB/s. My bandwidth does not yet exceed 80 
>> down 20 up yet, though, so this is not needed for simple Ethernet 
>> connections and if I had cable I would still be using TC exclusively.  
>> Wireless coverage in my flat isn’t the issue: the TC works great even at 5 
>> GHz and in fact disabling the 2.4 GHz band actually makes things better 
>> where I am, in London, where the 2.4 GHz band is completely and totally 
>> choked.
>> 
>> My biggest gripe with current consumer stuff is it’s all pretty dire in 
>> terms of flexibility and security.  Running your own box overcomes that but 
>> it’s not for the faint of heart.  However, even I will eventually need a new 
>> access point, and in that case I will probably just go with the Netgear 
>> Nighthawk.  My only gripe about that is it doesn’t let you use multiple 
>> VLANs when it is in bridge mode, so you can’t run your own custom guest 
>> network or hotspot, which is something I’ve always wanted to do but probably 
>> never will, LOL.
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Re: Using My iPad, More and More

[Mary Otten]

As far as I know, you cannot change those apps, like mail, that have the two 
side-by-side panes. Split screen is optional. But that set up is not.


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iTunes reports busy in Sierra

['Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

For a few days now, if I launch iTunes, it opens but it reports constantly busy 
and I have to force quit it.  I am still on Sierra.  What can have gone wrong, 
and how can I fix it?  Is there & where a plist I could try and discard?

Andrew

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Re: New router or not?

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If I were to choose a non-apple router like Netgear Nighthawk, can I put my 
existing airport extreeme latest version to some use? Or does it mean selling 
it on?

Andrew
> On Jun 13, 2019, at 8:47 PM, 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
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> I still use a Time Capsule, but in bridged mode for exclusive use as a 
> wireless access point, with my own Linux box as router doing PPPoE to a VDSL 
> modem. This overcomes the chief limitation of the device, which is 
> translation speed beyond about 300 MB/s. My bandwidth does not yet exceed 80 
> down 20 up yet, though, so this is not needed for simple Ethernet connections 
> and if I had cable I would still be using TC exclusively.  Wireless coverage 
> in my flat isn’t the issue: the TC works great even at 5 GHz and in fact 
> disabling the 2.4 GHz band actually makes things better where I am, in 
> London, where the 2.4 GHz band is completely and totally choked.
> 
> My biggest gripe with current consumer stuff is it’s all pretty dire in terms 
> of flexibility and security.  Running your own box overcomes that but it’s 
> not for the faint of heart.  However, even I will eventually need a new 
> access point, and in that case I will probably just go with the Netgear 
> Nighthawk.  My only gripe about that is it doesn’t let you use multiple VLANs 
> when it is in bridge mode, so you can’t run your own custom guest network or 
> hotspot, which is something I’ve always wanted to do but probably never will, 
> LOL.
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Re: Using My iPad, More and More

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How does one turn off the split screen on the iPad? I hate the split screen and 
hardly ever use the iPad except to check for the updates for my wife. She is 
sighted and also hates the split screen. I’ve had a look in settings but 
couldn’t find where to turn it off.

> On 14/06/2019, at 7:50 AM, 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
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Re: Using My iPad, More and More

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You can turn off multiple pane iPad apps? So you can make Mail and Settings 
look like the ones on the iPhone? Or do you just mean not using split screen, 
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Re: New router or not?

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I still use a Time Capsule, but in bridged mode for exclusive use as a wireless 
access point, with my own Linux box as router doing PPPoE to a VDSL modem. This 
overcomes the chief limitation of the device, which is translation speed beyond 
about 300 MB/s. My bandwidth does not yet exceed 80 down 20 up yet, though, so 
this is not needed for simple Ethernet connections and if I had cable I would 
still be using TC exclusively.  Wireless coverage in my flat isn’t the issue: 
the TC works great even at 5 GHz and in fact disabling the 2.4 GHz band 
actually makes things better where I am, in London, where the 2.4 GHz band is 
completely and totally choked.

My biggest gripe with current consumer stuff is it’s all pretty dire in terms 
of flexibility and security.  Running your own box overcomes that but it’s not 
for the faint of heart.  However, even I will eventually need a new access 
point, and in that case I will probably just go with the Netgear Nighthawk.  My 
only gripe about that is it doesn’t let you use multiple VLANs when it is in 
bridge mode, so you can’t run your own custom guest network or hotspot, which 
is something I’ve always wanted to do but probably never will, LOL.

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Re: Using My iPad, More and More

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
You can disable the split-screen i think.
/A

> 13 juni 2019 kl. 19:34 skrev 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
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> It seems to me that if iPhone got keyboard shortcuts then many of the 
> supposed advantages of the iPad would disappear. I had avoided iPad 
> specifically because of the split-screen app layouts that I do not like very 
> much, but perhaps this is just another inevitable that I have to face.
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Re: New router or not?

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Thanks for your great help Simon.
Yeah, i need to get a better router.
I’ve looked att asus routers and will also look to see if i can find one of the 
netgear ones.
/A

> 13 juni 2019 kl. 12:09 skrev Simon Fogarty :
> 
> Hi Anders,
> 
> I'm not really an apple router fan but I'm not saying they are bad or 
> otherwise,
> May be slightly out dated,
> 
> In saying that I used an airport express before getting my netgear nighthawk 
> router 
> I find it's interface great to use and accessible from my iPhone or iPad 
> through the nighthawk app 
> Very accessible with voiceover 
> Oh and windows if you need it.
> 
> They have a number of different devices,
> Mine is an R8000 I think it is, I've kind of just ignored the model now as 
> it's just sitting and working as it needs to.
> 
> 4 antenna 
> 4 ethernet pors on the back and a USB port on the front for connection of god 
> knows what.
> I've never used the USB for anything,
> 
> The device also has OpenVPN built in and very simple to use / setup for 
> anyone that wishs to have a secure log in and connection back to your own 
> home via VPN 
> 
> As I said, there is a range of nighthawk devices and the ones I looked at can 
> do giga bit wired and ac wifi 
> I rate them as a device to buy but really it's up to you.
> 
> If you had the money and it's avaible in swedan then I'd say look at the 
> R9600  I think it is which was the top of the line device when I was looking,
> It is well over spec'd for new Zealand with WiFi AD 
> And things that probably only a business would use.
> 
> Hope that helps and good luck.
> 
> 
> Simon 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
> Sent: Thursday, 13 June 2019 12:21 AM
> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: New router or not?
> 
> Hi!
> We’re getting fibre connection at 1000 Mbit here in my apartment and i want 
> to make use of that as much as possible.
> So i will be connecting my airport extreme to the new connection.
> However i am wondering if the airport extreme is out of date as a good router 
> and if i should get me a new one instead?
> If i get a new router then support for OpenVpn is a must.
> So i ask if someone here can give me some advice?
> Thanks in advance.
> Note that the interface for a new router of course has to be VoiceOver 
> friendly.
> The airport utility is one of the best i’ve seen so far.
> I know that there  are routers with Unix interfaces, but any tips are welcome.
> 
> Thanks.
> /A
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Re: Using My iPad, More and More

['Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries]

It seems to me that if iPhone got keyboard shortcuts then many of the supposed 
advantages of the iPad would disappear. I had avoided iPad specifically because 
of the split-screen app layouts that I do not like very much, but perhaps this 
is just another inevitable that I have to face.

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Re: Question for Apple TV users regarding sound bar

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

No, the Apple TV 4th Generation models no longer have the optical connection.

Later...

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On Jun 13, 2019, at 08:52, Mary Otten  wrote:

Hi Simon,
Well, it seems to me that we tried the sound bar that my husband currently 
uses, which is one that exhibits the problem, with an optical cable. But I 
could be wrong. That probably would’ve been with an older Apple TV. I have the 
one just before the 4K these days, and I don’t even know if it has an optical 
connection. Seems to me I remember that it doesn’t. But I will have to check 
into it.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 13, 2019, at 3:23 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> I've got a Sonos Play Bar,
> It's a few years old now and I don't have any issues with the voiceover voice 
> being cut off from my apple tv,
> This may well be due to my sound bar being connected to my tv using an 
> optical cable and my apple tv connected to my Samsung tv with HDMI 
> 
> That way everything comes through the tv first and as I've switched the tv 
> speakers off the sonos play bar and surrounds play the related audio.
> 
> Hope that helps.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Mary Otten
> Sent: Thursday, 13 June 2019 12:48 PM
> To: viph...@googlegroups.com; macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Question for Apple TV users regarding sound bar
> 
> Hi all,
> In the past, I have had a lot of trouble with sound bars not playing nicely 
> with voiceover, in that, when you were looking around, the first several 
> syllables of voiceover audio would go missing. If sound was playing through 
> the sound bar already, such as music or TV program, there was not a problem. 
> I did finally find a sound bar from LG a few years ago which solved this 
> problem. But I am considering an upgrade, and don’t want to go through the 
> hassle again. So I’m curious what quality sound bars are folks using these 
> days with Apple TV where a voiceover works as it should, that is no audio is 
> cut off, even when no other sounds are playing?
> Mary
> 
> 
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downloaded twitterific from mac appstore now it wont open please help.

[Trahern Culver]

 

Hi everyone I hope your all well, I’m running Mac os10 high Sierra. I’m 
having a strange issue, I downloaded twitterific from the Mac App Store but 
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Re: Question for Apple TV users regarding sound bar

[Mary Otten]

Hi Simon,
Well, it seems to me that we tried the sound bar that my husband currently 
uses, which is one that exhibits the problem, with an optical cable. But I 
could be wrong. That probably would’ve been with an older Apple TV. I have the 
one just before the 4K these days, and I don’t even know if it has an optical 
connection. Seems to me I remember that it doesn’t. But I will have to check 
into it.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 13, 2019, at 3:23 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> I've got a Sonos Play Bar,
> It's a few years old now and I don't have any issues with the voiceover voice 
> being cut off from my apple tv,
> This may well be due to my sound bar being connected to my tv using an 
> optical cable and my apple tv connected to my Samsung tv with HDMI 
> 
> That way everything comes through the tv first and as I've switched the tv 
> speakers off the sonos play bar and surrounds play the related audio.
> 
> Hope that helps.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Mary Otten
> Sent: Thursday, 13 June 2019 12:48 PM
> To: viph...@googlegroups.com; macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Question for Apple TV users regarding sound bar
> 
> Hi all,
> In the past, I have had a lot of trouble with sound bars not playing nicely 
> with voiceover, in that, when you were looking around, the first several 
> syllables of voiceover audio would go missing. If sound was playing through 
> the sound bar already, such as music or TV program, there was not a problem. 
> I did finally find a sound bar from LG a few years ago which solved this 
> problem. But I am considering an upgrade, and don’t want to go through the 
> hassle again. So I’m curious what quality sound bars are folks using these 
> days with Apple TV where a voiceover works as it should, that is no audio is 
> cut off, even when no other sounds are playing?
> Mary
> 
> 
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Re: Using My iPad, More and More

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Mark,
   Then there is iPadOS which will be very interesting to hear about. 
My iPad mono 4 is not supported so all can do is watch from the sidelines.


   Are you using iPad-specific apps such as Skype for iPad?

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 6/12/2019 10:17 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

Hello All,

Well, I've had my iPad Pro, 10.5 with the Apple Smart keyboard for a couple
of months now.

At first, I found it somewhat difficult to allocate certain tasks to it that
could not be done, or in some cases, more easily done on my beloved iPhone 8
Plus.

However, as time has passed I have discovered that I prefer performing some
tasks on iPad more than on iPhone.

For example, I definitely enjoy using Twitter, Facebook and other social
media such as Yelp on iPad, especially in conjunction with the Apple Smart
keyboard.  Also, the TV Guide Mobile app is fabulous on iPad.

Apps such as Skype work well on iPad and I love the larger display as it
brings video calls up close and personal.

While I continue to listen to audio book, primarily on iPhone, I enjoy
reading eBooks on iPad with the larger display.

The battery power is so much better on iPad than on iPhone that I delegate
more battery draining tasks to iPad.

My point is that while there is some cross-over between iPad and iPhone, I
am definitely finding a groove for both in my digital online world.

Are there some tasks you prefer on iPad rather than iPhone?

I look forward to all replies.

Mark




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RE: Question for Apple TV users regarding sound bar

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Mary,

I've got a Sonos Play Bar,
It's a few years old now and I don't have any issues with the voiceover voice 
being cut off from my apple tv,
 This may well be due to my sound bar being connected to my tv using an optical 
cable and my apple tv connected to my Samsung tv with HDMI 

That way everything comes through the tv first and as I've switched the tv 
speakers off the sonos play bar and surrounds play the related audio.

Hope that helps.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, 13 June 2019 12:48 PM
To: viph...@googlegroups.com; macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Question for Apple TV users regarding sound bar

Hi all,
In the past, I have had a lot of trouble with sound bars not playing nicely 
with voiceover, in that, when you were looking around, the first several 
syllables of voiceover audio would go missing. If sound was playing through the 
sound bar already, such as music or TV program, there was not a problem. I did 
finally find a sound bar from LG a few years ago which solved this problem. But 
I am considering an upgrade, and don’t want to go through the hassle again. So 
I’m curious what quality sound bars are folks using these days with Apple TV 
where a voiceover works as it should, that is no audio is cut off, even when no 
other sounds are playing?
Mary


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RE: Encrypt.me accessibility update

[Simon Fogarty]

Hey thanks for this,

Might be worth looking at if travelling and need something more than open vpn

From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Thursday, 13 June 2019 8:04 AM
To: 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Encrypt.me accessibility update

Hi,

I’ve posted before about VPN app called encrypt.me & its 
accessibility.  I shared my communication with the developer, Terry Myers, 
who’s been very helpful & understanding of our needs.  Following his & his team 
commitment to improve accessibility of encrypt.me apps on 
all platforms, he’s just updated me by saying the following;
"The next release going into QA has a slightly improved accessibility feature.

You'll be able to enable/disable Encrypt.me using Siri, on 
iOS & Mac.

Monochrome is coming - we're going to work on that along side the new dark mode 
in iOS13.”

Encrypt.me applications are available for iOS, Android, mac 
platforms.  In fact, I have iOS versions & mac apps and they are fairly 
accessible anyway but I thought I’d make Terry aware that we exist and that it 
is important to keep us in mind, and his response was tremendously positive.  
Encrypt.me is a subscription VPN but it’s fairly affordable.

Andrew
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RE: New router or not?

[Simon Fogarty]

Yeah Ubiquity  have some great devices and high quality.

I have one sitting on an antenna in my living room.
It was sitting above my house giving a wider signal over the neighbourhood 
Made it easy surfing the net using my own wifi when in a café 50 or so meters 
away.

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Sent: Thursday, 13 June 2019 5:51 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New router or not?

You definitely should consider a new router. I looked it Manny and went with he 
ubiquityAmplifi HD. It supports very high speeds it’s a quality router and for 
a good price. And you do all of its set up and control via an iPhone app. Or 
web interface but I haven’t tried that. There are many good routers on the 
market right now. For me I just felt this was the best mix of features, price, 
and from a company that has a very good track record and producing commercial 
Wi-Fi equipment.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 12, 2019, at 13:04, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I can’t answer the question about open VPN. But I can’t say that the airport 
> extreme is definitely out of date. I had an airport extreme, and last year, I 
> replaced it with a mesh system, and the difference was amazing. I get solid 
> signal throughout my house. Wi-Fi speeds have dramatically increased. We 
> don’t have giga giga bit like what you’re going to have. But at least I am 
> now getting what I am paying for from my cable provider. The system I bought 
> was a Netgear Orby. It has one main router and two satellite. If you have an 
> apartment, you probably don’t need that. But getting something with better 
> throughput will certainly serve you well.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 12, 2019, at 5:20 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> We’re getting fibre connection at 1000 Mbit here in my apartment and i want 
>> to make use of that as much as possible.
>> So i will be connecting my airport extreme to the new connection.
>> However i am wondering if the airport extreme is out of date as a good 
>> router and if i should get me a new one instead?
>> If i get a new router then support for OpenVpn is a must.
>> So i ask if someone here can give me some advice?
>> Thanks in advance.
>> Note that the interface for a new router of course has to be VoiceOver 
>> friendly.
>> The airport utility is one of the best i’ve seen so far.
>> I know that there  are routers with Unix interfaces, but any tips are 
>> welcome.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> /A
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RE: Mailboxes under macOS

[Simon Fogarty]

Has anyone tried following the words of the Worms when speaking to Mr Floyd?
Tear down the wall,
Tear down the wall,

Tear down the wall!



From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Thursday, 13 June 2019 5:39 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mailboxes under macOS

I've fought those a few times too.  Just hurt my fists.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)

[cid:image001.jpg@01D52235.2D8F8850]

Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 12, 2019, at 11:38, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

  Ok thanks I will stop fighting the brick wall. ")

>From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 6/12/2019 10:36 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,
Those are stock mailboxes.  Like your InBox, they cannot be removed.
Later...
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Jun 12, 2019, at 11:22, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
> wrote:
  I have chosen to use certain names for some boxes such as Junk and Trash. 
Under the Smart Mailboxes however, I have Deleted Messages or Spam. I cannot 
get rid of these, I get an error 1030. Is there a reason why this is? I am 
using 3 email accounts and set Mailbox Behavior for each.
>From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com 

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RE: New router or not?

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Anders,

I'm not really an apple router fan but I'm not saying they are bad or otherwise,
May be slightly out dated,

In saying that I used an airport express before getting my netgear nighthawk 
router 
I find it's interface great to use and accessible from my iPhone or iPad 
through the nighthawk app 
Very accessible with voiceover 
Oh and windows if you need it.

 They have a number of different devices,
Mine is an R8000 I think it is, I've kind of just ignored the model now as it's 
just sitting and working as it needs to.

 4 antenna 
4 ethernet pors on the back and a USB port on the front for connection of god 
knows what.
I've never used the USB for anything,

The device also has OpenVPN built in and very simple to use / setup for anyone 
that wishs to have a secure log in and connection back to your own home via VPN 

As I said, there is a range of nighthawk devices and the ones I looked at can 
do giga bit wired and ac wifi 
I rate them as a device to buy but really it's up to you.

If you had the money and it's avaible in swedan then I'd say look at the R9600  
I think it is which was the top of the line device when I was looking,
It is well over spec'd for new Zealand with WiFi AD 
And things that probably only a business would use.

Hope that helps and good luck.


Simon 
 
-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Thursday, 13 June 2019 12:21 AM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: New router or not?

Hi!
We’re getting fibre connection at 1000 Mbit here in my apartment and i want to 
make use of that as much as possible.
So i will be connecting my airport extreme to the new connection.
However i am wondering if the airport extreme is out of date as a good router 
and if i should get me a new one instead?
If i get a new router then support for OpenVpn is a must.
So i ask if someone here can give me some advice?
Thanks in advance.
Note that the interface for a new router of course has to be VoiceOver friendly.
The airport utility is one of the best i’ve seen so far.
I know that there  are routers with Unix interfaces, but any tips are welcome.

Thanks.
/A

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RE: new mac books

[Simon Fogarty]

Yeah that's true,

 Except for the current situation where I've completely deleted the OS from the 
ssd and it's now not talking to me.

I believe this might be due to file volt which was installed the first time I 
set it up before wiping it to install Mojave latest os version.
Oh well gives me something to play with at work tomorrow.
-Original Message-
From: 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Thursday, 13 June 2019 12:14 AM
To: Macvisionaries 
Subject: Re: new mac books

You can always use an external keyboard while it's at home or at your workplace 
on a desk (either Bluetooth or USB).

On 6/11/19, 02:22, "Simon Fogarty"  wrote:

Thanks Janina,

 I'll let you know how it goes.

 Simon F


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Sent: Tuesday, 11 June 2019 4:04 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new mac books

So, good luck with it, Simon! May you be pleasantly surprised.

Best,

Janina

Simon Fogarty writes:
> Hi Janina,
> 
>  To late,
> 
> I've grabbed the 16GB I7 pro and as for the keyboard well that's 
something I can't get around as apple don't make a better option.
> If I get stuck I'll just make changes with a hot stick or something.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> 
> Sent: Monday, 10 June 2019 1:27 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: new mac books
> 
> Hi, Simon:
> 
> Being limited to 8Gb RAM might be a problem if you're running Win10, and 
especially if running in a vm.
> 
> But, I should think a keyboard you don't like would be even worse.
> 
> Can you hold out to see what comes from Apple later in the year? A lot of 
people are having issues with the newer keyboards. Seems reasonable Apple will 
do something about those complaints.
> 
> Janina
> 
> Simon Fogarty writes:
> > Hi Janina,
> > 
> >  That' my thoughts also,
> > 
> >  I can get a 2017 13" air for 2504 NZ dollars,  But it's got the 
> > custom build with 8gb ram, 2.2GHz I7 processor and 512GB ram, Oh and 
> > it's got the older keyboard style, But now I'm thinking I should 
> > just go for a newer pro and get use to the new butterfly keyboard as 
I'm guessing it's not going anywhere quickly.
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> > 
> > Sent: Thursday, 6 June 2019 12:20 AM
> > To: 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries 
> > 
> > Subject: Re: new mac books
> > 
> > Thanks very much for this info, Shawn.
> > 
> > 
> > These days I'm preferring the smallest and lightest physical unit I can 
get packed to the teeth with RAM, CPU, and SSD. So, a 2017 Air might just be 
the ticket.
> > 
> > Janina
> > 
> > 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries writes:
> > > I should've said the 2017 MacBook Air did the startup chime in Mojave 
which is what I have.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > On Jun 3, 2019, at 11:03 PM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Hi Janina. In Mojave, the 2017 models did make the startup chime. 
I'm currently beta testing Catalina which is 10.15 so I can't say if it's still 
there or not.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >> On Jun 3, 2019, at 12:45 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:
> > > >> 
> > > >> I'm also interested in this question and wondering whether the
> > > >> 2017 models still have the boot chime?
> > > >> 
> > > >> Janina
> > > >> 
> > > >> Simon Fogarty writes:
> > > >>> Hi Listers,
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> It's looking like I'm going to have to replace  my mid 2013 11" 
> > > >>> MacBookAir,
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> Currently the closest replacement would be the still currently 
> > > >>> available 2017 version of the mac book air, Apart from only 
> > > >>> being able to have 16GB ram in them it's an ok machine if 
> > > >>> spec'ed out completely,
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> However what I'm really wondering is if it's really possible for 
apple to put the older non butterfly keyboard in to something in the mac book 
pro range?
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> I've been using a mac book pro 2018 for almost a year and I still 
can't get use to the keys on the keyboard.
> > > >>> Preferring my 11" MBA keyboard.
> > > >>> Does anyone know if there is such a customize option for the mac 
book line?
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Arranging my contacts, Icloud, gmail or what?

[Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر]

Hi all:

I found that i have some contacts doublicates, because i created my contacts in 
the past using Both gmail and now Icloud,
I need to have a good and Professional contact list, what can i do exactly?
should i get all the contacts from the Gmail and Import them to Icloud then 
stop synching my Ios with Gmail? or what?
I need an accessible way also, because my contacts are full of data which i 
need to edit on computer sometimes.
Need your advice please
Thanks in advance

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Re: Using My iPad, More and More

[Jürgen Fleger]

Hi Mark,

same happened to me more or less. I love my iPad more and more too. And I 
beliefe it will even increase when iPad OS will bring more and more useful 
functions to iPads. A while further it might even replace the Mac for nonne 
power users.

I like to accomplish some tasks better than on my iPhone XS like writing diary, 
using meditation apps because of the better sound quality, Safari because of 
the Smart Keyboard, RSS reading and some more. But I like audio books and 
e-books still better on my iPhone.

I hope Apple will fix some VO bugs like reading lines not correctly while 
navigating through a text in word processing apps using arrow down or up. And I 
hope they will find a solution for CMD. Often times it happens while holding 
down a VO key combination in in combination with CMD that the extra window 
appears which shows the short cuts for each app.

All the best
Jürgen

Von meinem iPad Pro gesendet

> Am 13.06.2019 um 07:17 schrieb M. Taylor :
> 
> Hello All, 
> 
> Well, I've had my iPad Pro, 10.5 with the Apple Smart keyboard for a couple
> of months now.
> 
> At first, I found it somewhat difficult to allocate certain tasks to it that
> could not be done, or in some cases, more easily done on my beloved iPhone 8
> Plus.
> 
> However, as time has passed I have discovered that I prefer performing some
> tasks on iPad more than on iPhone.  
> 
> For example, I definitely enjoy using Twitter, Facebook and other social
> media such as Yelp on iPad, especially in conjunction with the Apple Smart
> keyboard.  Also, the TV Guide Mobile app is fabulous on iPad.  
> 
> Apps such as Skype work well on iPad and I love the larger display as it
> brings video calls up close and personal.  
> 
> While I continue to listen to audio book, primarily on iPhone, I enjoy
> reading eBooks on iPad with the larger display.  
> 
> The battery power is so much better on iPad than on iPhone that I delegate
> more battery draining tasks to iPad.  
> 
> My point is that while there is some cross-over between iPad and iPhone, I
> am definitely finding a groove for both in my digital online world.
> 
> Are there some tasks you prefer on iPad rather than iPhone?
> 
> I look forward to all replies.
> 
> Mark
> 
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Re: converting csv file to vcf, or what?

[Ramy Moustafa]

Ramy moustafa saber
licturer at:
faculty of musical education
music arranger and sound engineer
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 12, 2019, at 12:07 PM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> 
> all:
> I was having a big excel cheat for all my business contacts, someone 
> converted it to csv file, and it can be imported to google contacts, but 
> doing that is not accessible, so, i need to import this file to my contacts 
> on ios, how?
> 
> Ramy moustafa saber
> licturer at:
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