Re: Aftershockz bluez 2s headset

[Danny Noonan]

My head shape doesn't suit the blues 2's so mine were used maybe 20 times. If 
anyone wants to make me an offer. 

Danny

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> On 18 Nov 2016, at 10:50 am, Larry Thacker Jr.  
> wrote:
> 
> The Blues are a plastic band.  They necessarily have some flex, but I broke 
> at least 2 pair and one side went out on the third.  According to Aftershokz 
> there was a manufacturing defect that has been corrected since and my wife 
> has a pair that has held up, but they just sit on the table most of the time. 
>  The Trekz Titanium are actually made of Titanium.  I don’t think you could 
> break them if you tried, and they are lighter and smaller. The neck band is 
> less than 1/4 inches thick.  The plastic Blues are considerably wider around 
> the back.  
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2016, at 12:50 AM, Cheree Heppe  wrote:
>> 
>> How do those differ and why are they more durable?
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Nov 16, 2016, at 16:27, Larry Thacker Jr.  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Same here.  I recommend spending the extra to get the Trekz Titanium.  The 
>>> Blues I have had all broke or stopped working.  Aftershokz was good about 
>>> replacing them, but that gets old.  The Titaniums are made differently and 
>>> are much more durable.  I wear mine around the house and leave them on my 
>>> head all the time when I go out.  You may find them inadequate if you spend 
>>> time in loud environments such as a bus, train, or crowded restaurant.  
>>> Mine shipped with a pair of ear plugs, which rather defeats the purpose of 
>>> the headset but is a good solution if you’re somewhere safe and for the 
>>> moment don’t need to hear what’s around you.  They are best for their 
>>> advertised purpose of leaving your ears open.  However, as my wife would 
>>> tell you, what you are hearing in the headset will still distract you and 
>>> possibly cause you to miss what’s going on around you.  That’s a brain 
>>> issue, and perhaps others’ are better than mine.  If I have to start 
>>> commuting again, I may prefer something that works better on the train, but 
>>> otherwise I love my Aftershokz 
>>> and highly recommend them.
>>> 
 On Nov 16, 2016, at 6:08 PM, Cheree Heppe  wrote:
 
 I love mine because they let me hear both ambient and i-device sounds, 
 improving navigation and phone access.  They pair just fine.
 
 
 
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> On Nov 16, 2016, at 13:46, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> Has anyone on the list had aftershockz bluez 2S headset? If so, is it 
> easy to pair with iOS devices and/or mac? Any comments on their 
> performance?  I've only just come across them and thought they might be 
> rather useful as they wouldn't cut out the ambient noise - an important 
> factor if I walk around the house.  With headset that fit into my ear or 
> cover my ears, I either have to use just one ear or otherwise bump into 
> furniture and doors.
> 
> Andrew
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Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

[Danny Noonan]

I'm currently stuck  on iOS and for a lark spent some time trying to see what I 
could do. Some basic stuff like find my iPhone but no sign of anything male 
related. I did get better results in Crome  on desktop page but still no joy 
trying to set rules. Sigh. 

Danny

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> I have not got the site to work at all here. I tried 3 times and Safari 
> crashed all 3 times. I didn't even get the timezone selected. It just crashed 
> after I signed in and tried to click the button that said to change the 
> timezone. Clicking the button  labelled "setup instructions" also produced a 
> crash. So I suppose it's just as well that I haven't needed icloud.com for 
> anything. I'm not sure what you can do from the site that you couldn't manage 
> from your devices, but I guess we wait until they fix it to find out.
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Re: Transferring and reading text files on iOS devices

[Danny Noonan]

The google docs iOS app is great and you can set files for offline access. I 
store in google drive and offline any documents I want access too any time. 

Danny

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> On 27 Sep. 2016, at 12:06 am, Jenine Stanley  wrote:
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> Not sure if this works for you but I use Voice Dream Reader for this purpose. 
> The files won’t directly transfer into it unless you email them to yourself 
> and export then open them in Voice Dream Reader. You can also transfer them 
> to your iCloud drive in a special folder which is located inside the Reader 
> folder that Voice Dream sets up if you choose to use iCloud Drive. this 
> folder is called Loader and is where the files reside until transferred to 
> your iPhone. 
> 
> I believe you can do the same thing with voice Dream Writer as well. In fact, 
> that’s how I do things, with either app, depending on what I want to do with 
> the information. I’ve also used Google Docs but that’s cloud based. HTH
> Jenine Stanley
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>> Dear Macvisionaries subscribers,
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>> I am in need of an iOS app that makes it possible to transfer text files from
>> a Mac or from another operating system to an iOS device (e.g., an iPhone), 
>> then
>> read them quickly later on. The text files need to be stored on the iPhone or
>> iPad, not on a server somewhere.
>> 
>> For example, if I am about to travel, I can store flight and hotel 
>> information
>> in a text file for quick retrieval, instead of having to scroll through my
>> e-mail to find it.
>> 
>> I found File App, which appears to do what I want, but the latest version is
>> not accessible with VoiceOver under iOS. It claims to support ftp for file
>> transfers, which would be excellent, but the "swipe to continue" screen
>> displayed when the app starts presents difficulties.
>> 
>> Suggested apps would be most welcome. The solution needs to enable file
>> transfers from systems other than Mac OS, but it should also be accessible
>> when transferring files from Mac OS.
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Re: in public defense of those who beta test Apple software

[Danny Noonan]

Mail for me is now so much better. Reading threads is a smooth one handed 
option and I'm not even quite so upset about 3 finger tap for preview. That 
breaks the one hand option but still. Bring back hints preview for me and keep 
3 finger tap as well so when I turn off hints in a fit of rage when apple add 
oral hints adds in iOS 15. 
I wait until I decide on changes or i'de always be cranky boy. 

Danny

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> On 17 Sep. 2016, at 6:23 am, Phil Halton  wrote:
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> I'm the one who originally complained about the changes in mail app but now 
> that I've had a chance to work with it, and have found the messages router 
> feature as well as the ability to unpack the thread, I really like the what 
> they've done with it.
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
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> 
>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 3:34 PM, christopher hallsworth 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Can I speak up here as well?
>> 
>> I beta tested iOS 10 right from the very beginning, developer beta 1. How it 
>> was, Apple Developer Relations contacted me over a bug report I sent two 
>> years ago. Yes, two years ago. It was in relation to Braille Screen Input 
>> and contracted Braille. I reported then that there was absolutely no typing 
>> feedback when switching to contracted Braille input. After assuring me that 
>> they were looking for ideas, they finally told me that character feedback 
>> was turned off in all cases, and it was released like that. I was 
>> disappointed, but thought “hey, at least I tried”. So you can imagine the 
>> shock I felt when receiving that. So thought “hey, let’s check this out and 
>> see what I think?” And wow, it was amazing to see they finally added typing 
>> feedback to contracted Braille input. Since I was generally happy with the 
>> implementation, I simply replied to the report and resolving the bug report. 
>> Future betas of iOS 10 I saw small, but significant, changes, which were for 
>> the better. I’m not going to say the changes here, since even the public 
>> beta testers never saw them. They got changed probably in developer beta 2 
>> at least.
>> 
>> So please, give us credit where it’s due of course, and don’t blame it all 
>> on Apple. Thank you.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 16 Sep 2016, at 03:15, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I may have only tested the public betas, but, I’m totally going to stand 
>>> for Chris and the other Devs here who were always one step ahead of me.  IF 
>>> not for their pioneering work on all this. what we have now might:  and 
>>> indeed would be, much much more seriously flawed.  I think we who tested 
>>> the public betas have something to say to this also, for you see, I was one 
>>> of them and continue to be.  Now, I want to say something else that I feel 
>>> is in connection with all this.  Some say we who test the public betas can 
>>> in fact discuss what we find in public before the final release.  You could 
>>> not be more in error!!!  Obviously, you don’t know what you are  talking 
>>> about.  Have you bothered to read the terms of agreement that all beta 
>>> testers, (dev and public alike) must agree to?  No?  Well, permit me to 
>>> summarize them for you.  We cannot say a thing about what we are finding.  
>>> We’re strictly forbidden to show you non testers in any way what it is we 
>>> are working on.  If you think you have so much to say, you either pay the 
>>> developer fee or test the public beta.  Until then, shut up!  I’m 
>>> coming out here in such strong defense of dev and public beta testers 
>>> because I have gone through just about an entire summer of putting up with 
>>> idiotic fools whoo have NO respect for non disclosure agreements and the 
>>> seriousness with which such things MUST be taken.  True, not everyone on 
>>> this list is like that:  in fact, I suspect that most on this particular 
>>> list understand my point of view on this matter.  But on VORail, (yes I am 
>>> being specific about the place where most of this stupidity lives) it 
>>> seemed to reign supreme.  I’m sure I speak for Chris and the other devs and 
>>> for the other public beta testers here when I say that when we say we 
>>> cannot discuss something, you’d damn well better take us seriously because 
>>> we damn well take Apple’s non disclosure agreements very very seriously.  
>>> If stupid sighted people on podcasts can’t be bother to take such things 
>>> seriously and go  blabbing about what they find, that’s their problem.  
>>> Also, frankly, it’s not much help to us if Apple doesn’t enforce their own 
>>> non disclosure agreements.  Well, let the rest blab if they want to:  I, 
>>> for my part, will NOT.  
>>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>>> built-in
>>> 
>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
>>> 
 On Sep 15, 2016, at 8:26 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 

Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!

[Danny Noonan]

Perhaps it's evice specific as I'm having no trouble on my 6. 

Danny

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> On 17 Sep. 2016, at 4:45 am, don bishop  wrote:
> 
> Yes, I've noticed that too.  
> 
> Don  
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Date: Friday, September 16, 2016 11:43 am
> Subject: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!
> 
>> 
>> 
>> So... When I go, in iOS10 to the app store, then to the search tab, I only 
>> some of the time now see my search box at the top of the screen.  If I do 
>> see it, I double tap.  The keyboard comes up, but if I then flick back up to 
>> the text box, it doesn't say is editting.  If I try using Siri to dictate, 
>> nothing gets inserted into the box.  If I manually type my query in, it'll 
>> then type in the box, but the search button isn't showing at the bottom of 
>> the keyboard.  in fact, as soon as I put my finger in the bottom right 
>> quadrant of the screen to tap search, the keyboard disappears entirely, and 
>> I land on the update tab instead.  I know I quote, need to just move my 
>> finger up a little bit.  Trust me, I am profoundly familiar with the app 
>> store, and how it works.  I'm doing this 100% correctly, I assure you beyond 
>> a doubt.
>> 
>> Plus, I have enough low vision to see what it's doing.  I'm definitely doing 
>> it correctly.
>> 
>> The one time I somehow managed to get the search to carry out, mind you I 
>> dono what the heck I did to do so, there were no results.  The key word I 
>> searched for, just to see if I could make anything come up, not that I was 
>> gonna download it was, Pokimon G.  No results came up after doing the 
>> search.  Further, when I clicked clear search after the search field, it 
>> wouldn't clear out what I typed.
>> 
>> I've rebooted the phone.  NO good.  I disconnected and reconnected to my 
>> wifi.  No good.  I tried on cellular.  No good.  I even factory reset the 
>> phone.  NO good, and no, after doing so, I didn't restore from a backup.  I 
>> don't do that with major updates like this.  I just start over clean.
>> 
>> It wasn't doing this earlier this morning,  and what's weirded on the mac 
>> is, when I open ITunes, I can't even get to the store anymore with 
>> command+Shift+Have in the update that just came out.  It bwonks at me, if I 
>> try.  I literally have to vo+Right arrow to the store radio button, then 
>> VO+Space on it.  Incredibly, incredibly! clunky!
>> 
>> Is anyone else seeing this stuff?
>> 
>> Chris.
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Re: Audible.com new library view

[Danny Noonan]

To add to this, on my iPhone  I tried to select 2 books for 1 sale titles but 
now can't remove them, can't get to purchase them and can't even buy a book 
normally. My daughter who is sighted can't even work it out. Oh audible! You 
know better.  

Danny

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> On 14 Aug 2016, at 8:35 PM, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
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> Hi Anne,
> 
> 
> It might just be the  Mac version on Windows no issues.
> 
> 
> Thanks for the heads up.
> 
> 
> With best regards,
> 
> 
> Sadam Ahmed
> 
> 
>> On 14/08/2016 8:24 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> Audible has changed its library view and it’s horrible! You have to hover 
>> the mouse over the book’s cover image and click to get the download options. 
>> Sometimes, the mouse simply will not come to the VoiceOver cursor and the 
>> whole thing is very hit and miss.
>> I’ve chatted with someone at Audible and he’s going to pass my comments on 
>> to the web designers.
>> We’ll just have to wait and see.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card

[Danny Noonan]

You require a cym card on setup but don't once the phone is up and running. 

Danny

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> On 25 Jul 2016, at 11:56 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
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> I recall seeing somewhere that if you buy an iPhone, such as an iPhone SE, 
> and you don't get a carriers Sim card to go with it, you can't use it. Is 
> that true? I have an android phone that I never had a Sim card for, and it 
> has worked just fine as a tablet more or less. I would like to use an iPhone 
> se  as an iPod.  Is that possible?
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Re: For new, or majorly struggling Mac users: Please read

[Danny Noonan]

This won't work for me being in Australia but perhaps there are some aus Nz 
Asian etc Mac users who want to try and get something going down here. I have a 
lot to learn but also know enough to teach some things. 
Any interest let me know at
danny.noo...@icloud.com
There are always folks struggling with vo on the Mac. 

Danny

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> On 8 Jul 2016, at 10:02 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Guys,
>  
> I have been using a mac now for just over 10 years.  I started in the days of 
> mac OSX 10.4.1 Tiger with a Power Mac G4 Quick Silver.
>  
> I am at the point now where I could not function without my mac, end of 
> story!  There are a few things on Windows I still do, but very few.  I'd say 
> out of an 8 hour work day, I'm probably only in Windows maybe 30 minutes to 
> an hour out of that timeframe.
>  
> So, here is what I am thinking.  For those who live in the US, or have 
> telephone calling to the states, how interested would people like Andy, or 
> Arnald etc. be with me coordinating and teaching a 1 hour  class on the 
> basics of the mac OS from the standpoint of someone blind who has used 
> Windows all their life?  Make it very clear that I do not plan to charge for 
> this class.  I would very gladly vollenteer my time to do this for you all in 
> a group setting.  The classes would not be all lecture  based.  I would make 
> them very interactive.  This means, though I might have a small portion of 
> the class devoted to lecture, 95% of the hour would be helping you all better 
> understand Voiceover, and your new mac system.  Over time, the coriculum 
> would be:
>  
> Deciding which mac is right for you
> The differences in keyboard layouts
> Identifying the FN, CTRL, Option, and command keys
> Discussing the Voiceover modifier keys
> Turning on your mac for the very first time ever
> Turning on Voiceover with no sighted help
> Basic VO keyboard navigation
> Basic VO trackpad navigation
> Why trackpad gestures over keyboard navigation
> Completing the first time setup assistant
> Creating an Apple ID/ICloud ID, and why
> The basics of Quick Nav
> Accessing and navigating menu bars
> Accessing and navigating menu extras, and what they are
> Connecting to a wifi network
> Configuring Finder view options to your liking
> Accessing right click context menus
> Navigating the dock, and what is it
> Switching between opened applications
> The Running applications window
> Switching between opened windows within an application
> The Window chooser
> System Preferences, and useful configurations
> The Finder, and basic navigation
> Opening files/folders
> Explaining concepts of volumes vs. drives
> The Finder sidebar
> The finder browser
> Icon, list, and column views within the Finder
> Changing between the three different views
> Renaming files/folders
> Copy/pasting files/folders
> Selecting files/folders contiguously
> Selecting file/folders noncontiguously
> Adding items to the dock
> Aliuses, what are they, and how to create them
> Properly disconnecting USB drives, and external media
> Closing opened windows
> Quitting applications
> Force quitting applications, and when to do so
> An entire class hour long devoted to the Voiceover Utility
> An entire class devoted to the concept of interacting
> Routing the mouse pointer
> Querying location of keyboard, Voiceover, and mouse focus
> Getting very detailed coordinant locations of cursors
> Moving and resizing windows with no sighted help
> Hiding vs. minimizing
> Zooming vs. maximizing
> Closing vs. quitting
> Setting some useful preferences for Safari
> Two dedicated classes to surfing the web
> One dedicated class to working with E-mail
> Three dedicated classes to the basics of ITunes
> The extreme basics of Quicktime, and why you'd need it
> Basic word processing/text editting
> A very basic introduction to Pages
> A very basic introduction to Numbers
> A very basic introduction to Keynote
> The mac App Store
> Software Update
> Disk Utility
> An incredibly extremely basic intro to Terminal
> The notification Center
> Audio/Midi Setup, and its rare uses
> An intro to the stocked DVD player
> An intro to Airplay
> Booting into System Recovery
> Imaging your drive with Super Duper
> Time Machine, and its uses
> Migration Assistant, and its uses
> Installing, reinstalling, and clean installing OSX
> Troubleshooting misbehaving login items
> An intro to Activity Monitor
> An intro to ICloud Drive
> An Intro to Keychain Manager
>  
> The final class will be wishing everyone farewell with the mac, and 
> answerring any questions which may have not already been covered.
>  
> Upon completion, everyone would receive an electronically e-mailed 
> certifiquet certifying their full completion in the corse.
>  
> Along the way, some weeks will have weekly assignments which I will ask the 
> group to complete for the next class.
>  
> If I do this for you guys, and I do it for free, then realize, 

Re: OS mac and vo

[Danny Noonan]

Every time I do f7 to spell check the app crashes and even with auto save on 
document is locked. That's my problem with office. Sigh. 

Danny

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> On 16 Jun 2016, at 12:58 AM, Krister Ekstrom  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi I’m not Simon but let me tell you about my experiences and i don’t know if 
> this has gotten different:
> In word, when reading long documents, the focus tends to jump to the 
> beginning of a text after several pages of reading, making it a bit tricky to 
> read longish documents. That’s what i’ve noticed.
> /Krister
> 
>> 15 juni 2016 kl. 16:34 skrev Scott Granados :
>> 
>> Simon, what are you finding wrong with office?  I’m using it, just started 
>> and actually like it.  I might not be smart enough to know otherwise 
>> though.:)  What’s the issues in your mind with office?
>>  
>> Thanks
>>  
>>  
>> From:  on behalf of Simon Fogarty 
>> 
>> Reply-To: 
>> Date: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 5:22 AM
>> To: "macvisionaries@googlegroups.com" 
>> Subject: OS mac and vo
>>  
>> Hi list,
>>  
>> Just thinking about another thing with in the new upcoming mac os sierra 
>>  Will voiceover for mac os be any better with applications such as ms office 
>> 2016 
>>  
>> I’ve noticed that it’s still not great although better than 2011 ofice 
>>  
>> And although this probably can’t be answered honestly,
>> For those that are dev beta testers, this would be good to know if you can 
>> test it out?
>>  
>> Cheers,
>>  
>>  
>> Simon F
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Re: Facebook and their improvements on pictures

[Danny Noonan]

I have it and in time I think it will be a great feature. 
Speaking about staggered rollouts I don't have the option to love, hate etc on 
posts. Still just likes for now. 
Danny

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> On 7 Mar 2016, at 10:42 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> As I said in a previous message, the feature is being rolled out to a few 
> users for now. Facebook said, through a reply to me on Twitter, that the 
> general rollout hasn't happened yet. When it does, they'll announce it, but 
> for now, only select users have the feature. How those users were selected, 
> and if more users are still being added, no one knows.
>> On Mar 7, 2016, at 03:30, Helga Schreiber  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all! I have an  iPhone 6S. And my frien d hwo has the feature ahs the 
>> iPhone 6S as well! I look forward in hearin gform you soon. Thanks adn God 
>> bless!
>> 
>> Helga Schreiber 
>> 
>> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
>> Students.
>> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
>> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
>> Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
>> Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com 
>> Skype: helga.schreiber26 
>> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx 
>> INT Website: http://int4life.com/ 
>> 
>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
>> believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
>> Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 9.2.1  
>> 
>>> On Mar 7, 2016, at 2:43 AM, Dora Speck  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think it depends on what phone you have. Not entirely sure.
>>> 
>>> Dora Speck
>>> 
>>> [Sent from my iPhone]
>>> 
 On Mar 6, 2016, at 11:41 PM, Helga Schreiber  
 wrote:
 
 Hi,  this is Helga! How are you? I also have the sameproblem guys! When 
 I'm in facebook! Only announces pictures guys! Like image! My frien d has 
 the feature. How com esome of us don't have it and some of us do have it? 
 Just wondeirng! I don't ahve it at all! I look forward in hearin gfomr you 
 soon. Thanks and God bless!
 
 Helga Schreiber 
 
 Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of 
 Blind Students.
 Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
 Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
 Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
 Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com 
 Skype: helga.schreiber26 
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> On Mar 5, 2016, at 6:49 AM, Mário Navarro  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> hi.
> sorry, but that it does not happen here.
> 
> I already tested in all kinds of pictures, and no information is given 
> the description of the picture.
> only announces picture image. nothing more.
> cheers.
> 
> Às 08:18 de 05/03/2016, Dora Speck escreveu:
>> Facebook sure has come along way since I first started using it. The 
>> greatest improvement I found they've made is the excessibility feature 
>> with pictures people often post! To a sighted person, I'm not sure if 
>> this will make sense to you, but I will try and describe in the best way 
>> I can. When I first started, Facebook did not have an accessibility 
>> feature for describing photos. All you heard when ever you were looking 
>> at Facebook with a screen reader was, "Photo." Of course, as a blind 
>> individual I had no clue what that picture was of whether it be an 
>> object or face up until now. Here we are at 2016. They've now got to 
>> wear my voiceover will actually say the following when I come across a 
>> photo.
>> "Image may contain, 1 person." And if a person is smiling, it will say, 
>> "Image may contain, 1 person smiling." If there are more than one person 
>> in a photo, it will specify just how many people are with in that photo! 
>> I'm very pleased with Facebook and their accomplishments, and I hope 
>> Twitter will do the same.
>> 
>> Dora Speck
>> 
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Re: response from SpeedDots

[Danny Noonan]

I've had one situation where they sent the wrong pritecters and although I 
wasn't happy with the mistake I was impressed with them directly sending the 
correct product straight away no questions asked. 


Danny

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> On 7 Mar 2016, at 12:56 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Since I shared my negative opinions on SpeedDots yesterday, I also wanted to 
> write and share some positive follow-up.
> 
> As I wrote earlier, I wrote to SpeedDots yesterday.  I did not ask for a 
> refund, but shared my disappointment with the product, and specifically the 
> lack of instruction for how to properly place it on the phone.  I received a 
> response from them within four hours, which to my thinking is pretty 
> impressive, especially since it was a Saturday.  Their response stated that 
> on their website it states that this protector will not work without the 
> OtterBox case on the phone.  I had not seen anything that said that when I 
> was at the site, and I had also had an email exchange with them before 
> purchasing that did not indicate that that was the case, but I assume the 
> information is there somewhere.  At any rate, they offered me a choice, 
> either a refund or a replacement with the correct protector for phones that 
> don't have the OtterBox Case.  I chose the latter, as I figure I ought to 
> give it a fair try under the conditions that they say will work.
> 
> Though I could have done without yesterday's frustrations, I couldn't have 
> asked for a more prompt or customer-oriented response.  I still don't know 
> where I'm going to end re these tactile covers, but the people at SpeedDots 
> get high marks from me for the way they've handled my situation.
> Cheers,
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Re: Questions re tactile covers

[Danny Noonan]

I don't know anyone who uses the basic model as it ends up being more confusing 
with so many dots. My wife thought the basic would be better but found finding 
the gaps with out dots on f and j was very slow. We both use touch typing which 
may make a difference. 


Danny

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> On 23 Feb 2016, at 8:35 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi Rachel,
> 
> Thanks for responding.  I do think I'm going to give them a try, just haven't 
> yet decided between the standard and the advanced.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Feb 22, 2016, at 11:05 PM, Rachel Feinberg  wrote:
>> 
>> I use the standard model, and am able to text one-handed, along with 
>> auto-correct and spelling suggestions, I sometimes prefer typing on the 
>> touch-screen than with a bluetooth keyboard. Having reference points for the 
>> 5 on the numbpad, the back/done/next/previous buttons in various apps like 
>> phone and mail, and having direct access to the send, attach media, and 
>> predictions buttons in the mesages app makes everything that much speedier 
>> and efficient. If productivity is what you're after, I'd strongly recommend 
>> you give the speedDots screen protectors a try.
>>> On 2/21/2016 6:05 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> When I was asked about these, it kind of took me by surprise.  I got my 
>>> first iPhone the first week that the first accessible model, the 3GS, came 
>>> out.  At that time of course there was no such thing as a tactile cover, so 
>>> I learned to use my phone without one.  I'd be curious to hear from those 
>>> of you who do use them.  Which one do you use?  Have you always use a 
>>> tactile cover?  If not, do you feel like using one improves your speed on 
>>> the iPhone?
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
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Re: Questions re tactile covers

[Danny Noonan]

As the dots are reference points less dots IMO are far less confusing. Also at 
least with speed dots there is no grid. Just small dots aprox the size of a 
Braille dot and they in no way effect use of the touch screen. I find it easier 
and have more control than with plane glass which is more slippery. Moving 
icons is no harder or different with speed dots. 
Give it a try with an open mind and good chance you'll like it and if not it's 
only a few dollars lost. 
Oh, you can see the dots but my daughter and sighted friends have no trouble 
seeing the screen and I don't find it destroys the tactile asthetic either. 

Have a great day.  

Danny 

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> On 23 Feb 2016, at 1:23 AM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Danny,
> 
> Thanks for responding.  As I said, when I started using an iPhone, these 
> things didn't exist.  Consequently, I've never really thought about them 
> until now.  I confess that I dislike the thought of turning my nice, smooth 
> iPhone into something, well, not nice and smooth, but I may try it.  Faster 
> typing would be nice, I'm probably about like Erik, maybe 20 WPM.
> 
> Thanks also for sharing your preference for the advanced version.  On the one 
> hand, if faster typing is what I'm after, it seems like it would be nice to 
> have all the letters.  But I can also see where that might bake the overlay 
> too crowded.
> Cheers,
> Donna  
>> On Feb 22, 2016, at 4:06 AM, Danny Noonan <danny.p.noo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I concidder myself a power user and although I can certainly use I devices 
>> without a speed dots on I do definately prefer the tactile. My wife and I 
>> use the advanced as the f and j home keys are enough. The entire keyboard 
>> minus home keys is harder to use IMO. The back edit 5 on the num pad etc 
>> just give quick reference points that help me find buttons that much 
>> quicker. Personal preference but my typing with tactile home keys is much 
>> faster along with general movement and orientation on the screen. 
>> If you decide only beginners need tactile screen covers then your not being 
>> open minded. Try it out and decide. 
>> 
>> Danny
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 22 Feb 2016, at 8:38 PM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Erik,
>>> 
>>> I suspect I would feel the same way, though I am thinking about giving one 
>>> a try just to see if I like it.  Typing speed would be the one real 
>>> advantage I could see.  Mostly I just use Siri and dictate, but it does 
>>> seem like being able to actually type more quickly, say if you're in a 
>>> noisy environment, could be handy.  Thanks for sharing your reaction.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>>> On Feb 21, 2016, at 10:14 AM, erik burggraaf <e...@erik-burggraaf.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,  I saw several when I was training extensively.  I found it very 
>>>> distracting after learning without.  On the other hand,  I've read user 
>>>> claims of 80 wpm typing speed when learning to type with a tactile screen 
>>>> protecter.  I'm certainly nowhere near that.  15 or 20 wpm at best and 
>>>> thank goodness for completion suggestions and spelling corrections.  Maybe 
>>>> I missed the boat on tactile screen protectors but it certainly doesn't 
>>>> feel that way when I pick up my devices.
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> 
>>>> Erik Burggraaf
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 21, 2016, at 9:05 AM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> When I was asked about these, it kind of took me by surprise.  I got my 
>>>>> first iPhone the first week that the first accessible model, the 3GS, 
>>>>> came out.  At that time of course there was no such thing as a tactile 
>>>>> cover, so I learned to use my phone without one.  I'd be curious to hear 
>>>>> from those of you who do use them.  Which one do you use?  Have you 
>>>>> always use a tactile cover?  If not, do you feel like using one improves 
>>>>> your speed on the iPhone?
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Donna
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Re: Questions re tactile covers

[Danny Noonan]

I concidder myself a power user and although I can certainly use I devices 
without a speed dots on I do definately prefer the tactile. My wife and I use 
the advanced as the f and j home keys are enough. The entire keyboard minus 
home keys is harder to use IMO. The back edit 5 on the num pad etc just give 
quick reference points that help me find buttons that much quicker. Personal 
preference but my typing with tactile home keys is much faster along with 
general movement and orientation on the screen. 
If you decide only beginners need tactile screen covers then your not being 
open minded. Try it out and decide. 

Danny

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> On 22 Feb 2016, at 8:38 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi Erik,
> 
> I suspect I would feel the same way, though I am thinking about giving one a 
> try just to see if I like it.  Typing speed would be the one real advantage I 
> could see.  Mostly I just use Siri and dictate, but it does seem like being 
> able to actually type more quickly, say if you're in a noisy environment, 
> could be handy.  Thanks for sharing your reaction.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Feb 21, 2016, at 10:14 AM, erik burggraaf  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,  I saw several when I was training extensively.  I found it very 
>> distracting after learning without.  On the other hand,  I've read user 
>> claims of 80 wpm typing speed when learning to type with a tactile screen 
>> protecter.  I'm certainly nowhere near that.  15 or 20 wpm at best and thank 
>> goodness for completion suggestions and spelling corrections.  Maybe I 
>> missed the boat on tactile screen protectors but it certainly doesn't feel 
>> that way when I pick up my devices.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Erik Burggraaf
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 21, 2016, at 9:05 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> When I was asked about these, it kind of took me by surprise.  I got my 
>>> first iPhone the first week that the first accessible model, the 3GS, came 
>>> out.  At that time of course there was no such thing as a tactile cover, so 
>>> I learned to use my phone without one.  I'd be curious to hear from those 
>>> of you who do use them.  Which one do you use?  Have you always use a 
>>> tactile cover?  If not, do you feel like using one improves your speed on 
>>> the iPhone?
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
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Re: getting the current time

[Danny Noonan]

Please correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it right option t

Danny

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> On 13 Nov 2015, at 7:15 AM, Eileen Scrivani  wrote:
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> If you have Key Board Commanders enabled, then the right Command + T will 
> give you the date and time. 
>  
> From: Marie Lyons
> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 11:51 AM
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> Subject: getting the current time
>  
> Is there a command to get the time like there was on windows with jaws?
> 
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Re: E-mail bug on IOS.

[Danny Noonan]

I had it on a 4s and a 5s and it was anywhere I had to swipe through scrollable 
lists over multiple screens. Mail, settings etc and resets, restoring from 
backups and even full reset of all settings and data and a fresh install 
wouldn't fix it. 
The bug is fully gone as far as I can tell. 

Danny

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> On Sep 18, 2015, at 5:17 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> No Chris.
> 
> It didn't matter if I restored the phone or updated to 8.2 or 3 or 5, the bug 
> has always been there.
> 
> Kawal.
> On 17 Sep 2015, at 19:31, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> I too agree, never in 8, 9 beta, nor 9 official ever have I seen those things.
> 
> Seems like you probably needed a phone restore or something.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Scott Granados" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 11:11 AM
> Subject: Re: E-mail bug on IOS.
> 
> 
> Wow I never saw these bugs on my iPhone 6+.  I read a lot of mail though I 
> don’t respond much from the phone so that could be why.
> 
>> On Sep 17, 2015, at 11:08 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Michael.
>> 
>> I thought I had explained that in one of my previous messages some time ago. 
>>  If not, then I apologise.
>> 
>> So here goes again.
>> 
>> If in IOS8, you opened your mailbox, you could not always focus on every 
>> message.  Also when in a body of a message, you could find the delete button 
>> and Voice Over would land on the reply button instead.
>> 
>> Another bug I found in IOS8 was for instance:
>> 
>> 1. Open settings.
>> 
>> 2. flick right and pretend you were looking for phone.
>> 
>> 3.  You'd pass reminders and suddenly Voice Over would say apple pay or 
>> compass.  You'd flick left and you'd notice that it had missed, face time, 
>> messages and phone.
>> 
>> I hope this clarifies.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> On 17 Sep 2015, at 00:37, Michael Babcock  wrote:
>> 
>> OK, but what i’m asking is what bugs are you experiencing an IOS eight? If I 
>> had A better clarification of the "bugs" you're experiencing, I could've 
>> that you know if they are present in IOS nine or not.
>> Michael Babcock
>> Your Blind Digital Marketing Partner.
>> @payown on periscope and twitter.
>> http://yourownpay.com/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 16, 2015, at 4:36 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am not running iOS 9. The bugs are in iOS 8.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 16 Sep 2015, at 10:56 pm, Michael  wrote:
 
 Could you be more specific about what bug you're talking about in mail? I 
 haven't observed any as of yet and been running iOS nine cents July.
 
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> Hi.
> 
> I don't know if anyone has got IOS9 on there I phone yet but if they have 
> and it's released, can someone tell me if the e-mail bug has been fixed 
> please?  Also, the bug where Voice Over did not focus properly on I cons, 
> is that fixed too please?  Please could someone tell me when El Capitan 
> will be released as I don't know.
> 
> I hope my questions are allowed now meaning we can ask I phone questions 
> on here now.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Kawal.
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Re: IOS 9 impressions?

[Danny Noonan]

I have found 2 variants of the audio routing bug although neither is related to 
calls and neither is a big  problem.  All of these are with my headset in. 
If I have several audio apps loaded at the same time, in this case it was 
downcast voice dream and music, the voiceover volume reduced by about 40% and 
starting any audio the app volume would be low as well but soon slide back up 
to the set app volume. 
Taking apps out of the app chooser fixed it. 
Some times the play pause button on my headset stops working or plays music 
over or instead of my current audio apps. Either tapping the play button in the 
app or turning vo off and on fixes this. 
My ringer has been silent for a few seconds but then kicks in. 
Having said that I'm loving 9.   

Danny

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> On Sep 18, 2015, at 4:57 AM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
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> Hi everyone, I've written about 28000 words on iOS 9 in my book released 
> yesterday, but I did want to comment on some bugs, in case people haven't 
> upgraded yet and are wondering if there might be any pitfalls in doing so.
> I am enthusiastic about iOS 9. It is significantly more responsive than its 
> predecessor, and there are many new features that I'm sure you'll enjoy. 
> Unfortunately, there are also some VoiceOver bugs in iOS 9 that range from 
> minor annoyances to potentially critical, depending on how you use your 
> device and whether you find yourself affected. Here are just a few that you 
> might like to take into consideration before deciding whether to wait for a 
> bug fix release before installing iOS 9. Remember that a few days following 
> iOS 9's release, it will not be possible to downgrade again, so you should 
> consider the upgrade to iOS 9 a one-way trip, and proceed with caution if 
> anything below concerns you.
> 1. Audio routing bug. This is potentially the most significant accessibility 
> bug I can recall ever to slip through an iOS release, due to the number of 
> people who may be affected. Not everyone will be, and at present, even after 
> extensive testing with a range of people owning different devices, I have no 
> information about why it affects some users, but not others. It is not device 
> specific, for example it is happening to me on my iPhone 6 Plus, but I know 
> iPhone 6 Plus users where the problem isn't so severe. Nor does it seem to be 
> affected by any setting. If you're lucky, it won't happen to you, but the 
> only way I am aware of to determine this is to upgrade.
> This bug may affect you when you have earbuds or headphones connected to the 
> headphone socket of your iPhone. The primary way the audio routing bug 
> manifests itself is when you receive an incoming phone or FaceTime call. You 
> can usually hear if you're going to be affected by the bug because your 
> ring-tone will fade in and out, rather like the way VOiceOver causes system 
> audio to fade in and out when audio ducking is enabled. At this point, if you 
> press the power button to silence the ringer and then flick through the 
> screen, you will find that not only has VOiceOver become unresponsive, but 
> the entire phone has as well.
> If you don't press the power button while the phone is ringing, but instead 
> opt to flick through the iPHone's screen to locate the Answer button or 
> review caller ID information, VoiceOver may not speak at all.
> Finally, if you attempt to answer the incoming call with a two-finger 
> double-tap, you may not be able to, since VoiceOver has effectively locked up.
> The bottom line is that if you have earbuds connected, you may not be able to 
> answer a call.
> Some people have also reported similar problems answering calls when their 
> phone is set to silent.
> If you rely on your phone for business or safety, this could be a deal 
> breaker in terms of upgrading at this point.
> What makes this bug so fascinating is that not only is it completely absent 
> for some people, but of those who experience it, not all symptoms are present 
> for all users. For example, some people experience the issues I have 
> described when they press the power button to mute the ringer, but not when 
> the phone is ringing. Others can answer a call by pressing the button on 
> their EarPods, while others cannot.
> If you upgrade and are affected by this, here are a few things to try.
> (A) If you have the more moderate version of this bug, avoid pressing the 
> power button when you receive an incoming call.
> (B) Turning off audio ducking seems to help a little for some users.
> (C) If you can't answer a call with a two-finger double-tap, try pressing the 
> button on your EarPods or similar device if you have such a device connected.
> (D) If all else fails, you can disconnect any device from the headphone jack, 
> answer the call with a two-finger double-tap, then reconnect the device to 
> the headphone jack.
> (E) Given the critical nature of this bug, if you've upgraded and now find 
> yourself 

Re: Where is ICloud Drive on I O S 9?

[Danny Noonan]

Go to settings iCloud iCloud Drive and there is an option in there to put it on 
your homes green but it's off by default. 

Danny

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> On Sep 18, 2015, at 9:25 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> People say that ICloud drive is now on the home screen of I O S.  Where 
> though?
> 
> I definitely don't see it.
> 
> Could it be that I've rearranged my icons into folders back in the I O S 8 
> days, so maybe therefore it isn't showing out on my main screen, but instead 
> is berried within a folder, like Utilities, etc?
> 
> Chris. 
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Help installing windows7 on boot camp.

[Danny Noonan]

Danny

Sent from my iPhoneany help off or on list appreciated on installing windows 7 
ultimate 64 bit ISO on a thumb drive and installed on to boot camp.  
I have decent if rusty  vo skills From mountain lion days but my just repaired 
mbp is running the latest OS X.  .  

Thanks in advance for any help. 
Regards 
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Adding members to office365

[Danny Noonan]

I just started my free trial of office 365 and attempted to add my family 
members but every time I enter an email address I am told I have to prove I'm 
not a robot. I click next and in Safari on the Mac and my iPhone I get
Safari can not make a secure connection to this server.
I've tried turning off wifi on the phone but it's the same on 4g. I've also 
tried crome on the iPhone and get a blank page. On the suggestion from 
Microsoft I deleted my cookies and history with no luck. Microsoft suggested I 
use a pc. What pc? I'm an apple guy. 

Any suggestions greatly appreciated. 

Thanks. 

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Re: Thanks for the ToDo app!

[Danny Noonan]

Great to here. It's certainly made my life easier and far more productive. I 
don't have a watch but for when I do it's great to know apps like due and trip 
view work well on it. 

Have a great day and a tip if you want to set future date events in due, 
customising the quick times in settings helps. I have 1 day instead of 3 hours 
and 1 month in place of the 1 day. 


Danny

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 On 30 Jun 2015, at 8:13 am, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The Due app is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks so much. 
 
 the Watch version is awesome! I’d say well worth the $4.99. 
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Re: Recommendations for good ToDo app for iOS

[Danny Noonan]

I can't find the app. Are you sure of the spelling?
I used to use fantastical which is a calendar and reminders app but reliable 
voiceover accessibility broke in a big way so I had to quit it. It was a 
brilliant app when it worked. 
 

Danny

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 Look into fantastico for iOS.
 
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 On Jun 29, 2015, at 12:02 PM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I’m looking for recommendations for a good ToDo app that will allow me to 
 list things and be reminded on a regular basis, more than once a day, to 
 actually do them. Then an easy way to delete or move the task to a Done 
 list. 
 
 does this make sense? 
 
 Curious to see what you all use. I’d like this mainly for iOS but a Mac 
 version would also be helpful.
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 dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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Re: Recommendations for good ToDo app for iOS

[Danny Noonan]

I'm really enjoying due. It's quick and easy and you have total control over 
the amount of repetition. 
Check out 
Due — Reminders, Countdown Timers by Due Apps LLP
https://appsto.re/au/XoZpx.i
 

Danny

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 I’m looking for recommendations for a good ToDo app that will allow me to 
 list things and be reminded on a regular basis, more than once a day, to 
 actually do them. Then an easy way to delete or move the task to a Done list. 
 
 does this make sense? 
 
 Curious to see what you all use. I’d like this mainly for iOS but a Mac 
 version would also be helpful.
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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Re: rebooting your iPhone

[Danny Noonan]

Turning the phone off and on is rebooting it like any computer. You can also do 
a quick reset by pressing the power/screen lock button and as mentioned a hard 
reset by holding power and home until the apple logo shows up on the screen or 
15 seconds or so if you can't see the logo. None of these options should do any 
harm. In the past sometimes a hard reset could turn off voiceover and perhaps 
brick the phone but I haven't herd of this for a good while. None of these 
options should cause a software reset but rather a hardware reset. Software 
resets are only from settings general reset. 

Having said this always attempt to have a recent backup because stuff happens 
even if unlikely. Cya always. 

Danny

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 On 28 Jun 2015, at 2:14 am, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I thought the long hold like that totally resets the phone. I don’t want to 
 totally reset it. Just reboot it if that makes sense. thanks.
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Jun 27, 2015, at 12:08 PM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote:
 
 Hi!
 I use the home and the power button together.
 Hold it for 10 seconds or something like that.
 /A
 27 jun 2015 kl. 18:05 skrev Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com:
 
 Stupid question here. I have an iPhone 5S and am running the most current 
 iOS, 8.3. I believe that you can no longer use the good old power button 
 plus home button for a reboot of the phone. What’s the new command to do 
 this? 
 
 I just need to reboot as the phone is extremely wonky today. In the past, 
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Re: Mac visionaries

[Danny Noonan]

My brother has applied more than once so I second the request for assistance. 
It took me 2 or 3 attempts and nearly a year. 


Danny. 
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 On 19 May 2014, at 4:58 am, Christopher Hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Please can you help this person join the list. Thanks!
 
 
 Christopher Hallsworth
 Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
 www.hadley.edu
 
 
  Original Message 
 Subject: [BlindTech] Mac visionaries
 Date: Sun, 18 May 2014 16:40:00 +0200
 From: Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se
 Reply-To: blindt...@freelists.org
 To: blindt...@freelists.org
 
 Hi!
 Does anybody knows who the moderator is for the mac visionaries mailinglist?
 I have tried several times to subscribe with no luck.
 Its very annoying.
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Re: deleting trash on iphone5s with ios 7.1

[Danny Noonan]

Yes there is. Go to the trash folder, double tap the edit button on the top 
right and then double tap the delete all button on the bottom right of the 
screen. . 


Danny. 
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 Hi, ,
 I've deleted a lot of message in the mail app on the iphone 5s under ios 
 7..1.  
 Is there a way to empty the trash in one or maybe two steps without having to 
 delete each  message individually?
 
 Thanks,
 Don
 
 
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Re: Browsers Other than the stock iOS one

[Danny Noonan]

The one I have is atomic web browser and it works well but hasn't been updated 
for a long time and developer doesn't answer emails. You can choose which 
browser you want to show as, can double tap and hold to get extra options like 
downloading files even if their media files. There is a download manager as 
well from memory but I personally use browsers in my file manager etc. 

Find the app at
https://itunes.apple.com/au/app/atomic-web-browser-full-screen/id347929410?mt=8 


Danny. 
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 On 25 Mar 2014, at 11:23 am, Daniel C topdog2...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I'd like to know what other browsers besides the default one, can I use iwth 
 iOS7 and VO? I want to be able to view full sites on my phone, in case I 
 choose not to use my computer to do what I need to do on said websites.
 Every site I go to on my iphone displays the mobile version and I do not want 
 that specific option in certain cases.
 I herd of Opera, but not sure if that will work with vo, so I have not gotten 
 it yet.
 Do you know if they have firefox for iOS that will work with VO?
 
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Re: The bug for Messaging on the I phone.

[Danny Noonan]

For most people this is a perfectly reasonable solution until the minor bug is 
addressed. For a minority with different usage needs or a lower tollerence to 
imperfection however this is of high importance. If a keyboard or Braille 
display  is used a distance from the I device for example moving to the device 
every time may be highly irritating and if there is a mobility issue through 
disability a broken foot etc etc this little bug gains a lot more importance. 

Regardless write to apple and help it get fixed for the good of us all as a bug 
is a bug is a bug and full functionalety via brl display or qwerty is the aim 
and intent. I don't want to have to pull my phone out of my bag on the train to 
write a message. Is it the end of the world, no but it is a pain. Smile. 


Danny. 
Sent from my iPhone

 On 14 Mar 2014, at 8:14 am, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I just mean you can touch the screen somewhere near the edit field towards 
 the bottom of the screen. Double tapping there then lets you write in the 
 edit field.
 I just don't agree it's that unacceptable in the general scheme of things. 
 Apple fixed a lot in the latest 7.1 release, including elimination of the 
 focus issues when using the on screen keyboard. 
 
 Lisette 
 
 On 14/03/2014, at 9:53 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 What do you mean just touching the phone?  That bug is unacceptible and 
 Apple needs to know about it.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 What's wrong with just touching the phone? I know it's a small bug but in 
 the scheme of things it's surely not a show stopper. Yes Apple needs to 
 know about it but to say it's unacceptable is a little strong methinks.
 
 
 On 13/03/2014, at 4:48 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 A point I myself have made several times here already.  Yesterday, Bill 
 Holton and I verified this issue.  My only suggestion is that we flood 
 Apple with this matter and indicate in blunt absolutely no uncertain terms 
 that this is positively unacceptable.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 7:46 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 The bug for Messaging, I messaging is still on the I phone, you type your 
 contact and you still can't arrow across to type your message unless you 
 touch the I phone some where else. Is this a bug or is there another way 
 of getting to the messaging field where you type the content of the 
 message?
 
 Jonathan is absolutely right about typing with the Focus blue as I 
 haven't been using mine very much but its lovely. The only problem is i 
 can't write true UEB as Apple have strange ways of writing Braille which 
 jonathan explained once in his article. Writing on the Focus blue is 
 better than writing on the Apex!
 
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Re: The bug for Messaging on the I phone.

[Danny Noonan]

It's not funny but rather one of the advantages we have over the sighted with 
Bluetooth. It may not last but then again a trend to have a device docked and 
use peripherals might mean our and the sighted wants may  match up. 


Danny. 
Sent from my iPhone

 On 14 Mar 2014, at 8:55 am, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The funny thing about your response is, sighted people always pull their 
 phones out of their bags or pockets in order to write a reply. 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 14 Mar 2014, at 10:28, Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net wrote:
 
 For most people this is a perfectly reasonable solution until the minor bug 
 is addressed. For a minority with different usage needs or a lower 
 tollerence to imperfection however this is of high importance. If a keyboard 
 or Braille display  is used a distance from the I device for example moving 
 to the device every time may be highly irritating and if there is a mobility 
 issue through disability a broken foot etc etc this little bug gains a lot 
 more importance. 
 
 Regardless write to apple and help it get fixed for the good of us all as a 
 bug is a bug is a bug and full functionalety via brl display or qwerty is 
 the aim and intent. I don't want to have to pull my phone out of my bag on 
 the train to write a message. Is it the end of the world, no but it is a 
 pain. Smile. 
 
 
 Danny. 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 14 Mar 2014, at 8:14 am, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I just mean you can touch the screen somewhere near the edit field towards 
 the bottom of the screen. Double tapping there then lets you write in the 
 edit field.
 I just don't agree it's that unacceptable in the general scheme of things. 
 Apple fixed a lot in the latest 7.1 release, including elimination of the 
 focus issues when using the on screen keyboard. 
 
 Lisette 
 
 On 14/03/2014, at 9:53 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 What do you mean just touching the phone?  That bug is unacceptible and 
 Apple needs to know about it.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Lisette Wesseling 
 lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What's wrong with just touching the phone? I know it's a small bug but in 
 the scheme of things it's surely not a show stopper. Yes Apple needs to 
 know about it but to say it's unacceptable is a little strong methinks.
 
 
 On 13/03/2014, at 4:48 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 A point I myself have made several times here already.  Yesterday, Bill 
 Holton and I verified this issue.  My only suggestion is that we flood 
 Apple with this matter and indicate in blunt absolutely no uncertain 
 terms that this is positively unacceptable.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the 
 blind built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 7:46 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 The bug for Messaging, I messaging is still on the I phone, you type 
 your contact and you still can't arrow across to type your message 
 unless you touch the I phone some where else. Is this a bug or is there 
 another way of getting to the messaging field where you type the 
 content of the message?
 
 Jonathan is absolutely right about typing with the Focus blue as I 
 haven't been using mine very much but its lovely. The only problem is i 
 can't write true UEB as Apple have strange ways of writing Braille 
 which jonathan explained once in his article. Writing on the Focus blue 
 is better than writing on the Apex!
 
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Re: The bug for Messaging on the I phone.

[Danny Noonan]

And 5 do a clean install and rather than use a possibly corrupted backup synch 
contacts straight into the clean device. A big unpleasant job but some times 
required. 


Danny. 
Sent from my iPhone

 On 14 Mar 2014, at 9:10 am, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 As I have not experienced what you are talking about, I would suggest you 
 take the iPhone to either an Apple Store or mobile carrier store and show 
 them what is going on. That is definitely a strange situation. 
 
 The steps I would take are: First, reboot the phone by turning it off and 
 then on. Second, hard reboot the phone by holding the home and power buttons 
 for 12 seconds. Third, connect the phone to iTunes and run a repair after 
 creating a secure back-up. Fourth, take the phone to the carrier store. Note 
 that each step is the next level up.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 14 Mar 2014, at 10:56, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 You mean move down from the home number?  Thing is, I'm double tapping on 
 the mobile number to select it but the home number gets selected instead.  
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:53 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Just go further down the screen to find the other contact number. It is 
 there. 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 14 Mar 2014, at 10:21, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 That is not the bug I am talking about.  I'm talking about not being able 
 to select a contact's mobile number when both a home number and mobile 
 number are present in a contact's information.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Lisette Wesseling 
 lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I just mean you can touch the screen somewhere near the edit field 
 towards the bottom of the screen. Double tapping there then lets you 
 write in the edit field.
 I just don't agree it's that unacceptable in the general scheme of 
 things. Apple fixed a lot in the latest 7.1 release, including 
 elimination of the focus issues when using the on screen keyboard. 
 
 Lisette 
 
 On 14/03/2014, at 9:53 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 What do you mean just touching the phone?  That bug is unacceptible and 
 Apple needs to know about it.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the 
 blind built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Lisette Wesseling 
 lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What's wrong with just touching the phone? I know it's a small bug but 
 in the scheme of things it's surely not a show stopper. Yes Apple needs 
 to know about it but to say it's unacceptable is a little strong 
 methinks.
 
 
 On 13/03/2014, at 4:48 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 A point I myself have made several times here already.  Yesterday, 
 Bill Holton and I verified this issue.  My only suggestion is that we 
 flood Apple with this matter and indicate in blunt absolutely no 
 uncertain terms that this is positively unacceptable.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the 
 blind built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 
 user!
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 7:46 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 The bug for Messaging, I messaging is still on the I phone, you type 
 your contact and you still can't arrow across to type your message 
 unless you touch the I phone some where else. Is this a bug or is 
 there another way of getting to the messaging field where you type 
 the content of the message?
 
 Jonathan is absolutely right about typing with the Focus blue as I 
 haven't been using mine very much but its lovely. The only problem is 
 i can't write true UEB as Apple have strange ways of writing Braille 
 which jonathan explained once in his article. Writing on the Focus 
 blue is better than writing on the Apex!
 
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Re: The bug for Messaging on the I phone.

[Danny Noonan]

It bugs me. I couldn't work out why Siri wouldn't let me call radio cabs. There 
is no radio number for radio cabs she would tell me. 


Danny. 
Sent from my iPhone

 On 14 Mar 2014, at 10:32 am, Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 When entering numbers into a contact, does anyone know why one of the labels 
 is radio? That one has puzzled me for a while. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 5:23 PM, Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 One thing to keep in mind is that messages will refuse to choose a contact 
 option that can't receive a message.
 Is the mobile number an iPhone?  If not, you might check in settings whether 
 or not you have sending sms turned off.
 If you know that the number in question is an iPhone but the field says 
 mobile, you might need to redo the contact and choose iPhone from the popup 
 rather than mobile if you're just wanting to send an iMessage.
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:56 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 You mean move down from the home number?  Thing is, I'm double tapping on 
 the mobile number to select it but the home number gets selected instead.  
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and IPhone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:53 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Just go further down the screen to find the other contact number. It is 
 there. 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 14 Mar 2014, at 10:21, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 That is not the bug I am talking about.  I'm talking about not being able 
 to select a contact's mobile number when both a home number and mobile 
 number are present in a contact's information.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Lisette Wesseling 
 lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I just mean you can touch the screen somewhere near the edit field 
 towards the bottom of the screen. Double tapping there then lets you 
 write in the edit field.
 I just don't agree it's that unacceptable in the general scheme of 
 things. Apple fixed a lot in the latest 7.1 release, including 
 elimination of the focus issues when using the on screen keyboard. 
 
 Lisette 
 
 On 14/03/2014, at 9:53 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 What do you mean just touching the phone?  That bug is unacceptible and 
 Apple needs to know about it.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the 
 blind built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Lisette Wesseling 
 lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What's wrong with just touching the phone? I know it's a small bug but 
 in the scheme of things it's surely not a show stopper. Yes Apple needs 
 to know about it but to say it's unacceptable is a little strong 
 methinks.
 
 
 On 13/03/2014, at 4:48 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 A point I myself have made several times here already.  Yesterday, 
 Bill Holton and I verified this issue.  My only suggestion is that we 
 flood Apple with this matter and indicate in blunt absolutely no 
 uncertain terms that this is positively unacceptable.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the 
 blind built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 
 user!
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 7:46 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 The bug for Messaging, I messaging is still on the I phone, you type 
 your contact and you still can't arrow across to type your message 
 unless you touch the I phone some where else. Is this a bug or is 
 there another way of getting to the messaging field where you type 
 the content of the message?
 
 Jonathan is absolutely right about typing with the Focus blue as I 
 haven't been using mine very much but its lovely. The only problem is 
 i can't write true UEB as Apple have strange ways of writing Braille 
 which jonathan explained once in his article. Writing on the Focus 
 blue is better than writing on the Apex!
 
 Kawal.
 
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Re: Calendar in iOS

[Danny Noonan]

Go into any month and there is a list button top middle of the screen. This 
gives you a list of all events like it did in ios6. You ca move by headings or 
with a 3 finger swipe and pressing the today button bottom left focus will jump 
to the current date. 
Hope this helps.  

Danny. 
Sent from my iPhone

 On 13 Mar 2014, at 5:48 am, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Has anyone noticed a problem calendar? It seems to of been changed again so 
 that now there's no list feature. We used to be able to just press search and 
 that would bring up the list, but now there's a list button which doesn't 
 seem to work, and the search button does not bring up the list anymore. Any 
 ideas?
 
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Re: Calendar in iOS

[Danny Noonan]

Oh missed the bit about your list button not working. Sorry. In any month view 
mine works great. It still doesn't mean I'll use the Callander being a diehard 
fantastical fan but it's an improvement. When it works I guess. 

Good luck. 


Danny. 
Sent from my iPhone

 On 13 Mar 2014, at 5:48 am, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Has anyone noticed a problem calendar? It seems to of been changed again so 
 that now there's no list feature. We used to be able to just press search and 
 that would bring up the list, but now there's a list button which doesn't 
 seem to work, and the search button does not bring up the list anymore. Any 
 ideas?
 
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Re: Amazon Kendle App versuses Audiblee App

[Danny Noonan]

The only way to read kindle books on an iOS device is with the kindle app. Yes 
it uses the VoiceOver voice but the app has to be installed to access the 
books. 

Although amazon own audible and kindle this doesn't make them the same. Kindle 
books are ebooks so digital print/text books. Audible books as the name implies 
are audio books or talking books if you rather. They play in either the audible 
app or in the music app but in the music app have to be loaded from a computer. 

There are many more kindle titles and their usually cheaper but can only be 
listened to via your voice overs peach so you don't get human narration which 
can be a negative or a posative depending on several issues such as navigatio 
of material, quality of narration and personal preference. 


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 On 25 Feb 2014, at 12:16 pm, Angus MacKinnon thedog...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I was thiking of downloading the Amazon Kendle App and/or Audible App on my 
 iPhone 5 S. What is the point. Same owner and books. The Kendle Books can be 
 read by Siri. Which should I download? The Kendle App or Audible App.
 
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Re: fantastical 2 is an app I like more than apple calendar

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Go to Settings help and the last option is to contact them. 

I quite like the date ticker  only being the date as it suits it's function 
IMO. Also when date ticker is in focus a 3 finger swipe left or right moves by 
3 days. To add to that when the events section, ie events and reminders, roter 
on headings will move day by day and 3 finger swipe up or down will scroll 
larger amounts although I've found this a tad buggy as focus jumps back to my 
start point at times. I'll tap and hold on the month heading and jump straight 
to the date or nearbye it and then use the date ticker or headings in events to 
check round the date I want. 

Sorry if this is obvious to some. I've only played with the app for 40 minutes 
and with no mention of VoiceOver anywhere I had to reinvent the wheel a bit. 
It's a different beast to apples calendar app. Smile. 


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 On 1 Nov 2013, at 3:08 am, Christina C. blindmaclo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I have no idea how to contact or find the contact info for the developer and 
 I have also never done this before, so this would be new territory for me. :) 
  I know this sounds sad but I never feel like I can sound smart enough to be 
 convincing. LOL!
 
 Christina
 On Oct 30, 2013, at 6:17 PM, Nicholas Parsons 
 mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 This sounds great I will go get it now. I've always heard good things about 
 Fantastical but until Apple stuffed up Calendar in iOS 7 I never thought I'd 
 need it because Apple's Calendar was great. I've always wanted to see my 
 calendar events and reminders/ToDo's in one place though, so this point 
 really sold me.
 
 Regarding VoiceOver not announcing the day of the week in month view: How 
 about contacting the developer on this issue? That should be something the 
 developer could easily address and I agree it would be a really useful 
 feature for VoiceOver users. 
 
 Just while we're on the topic of calendars, I also downloaded the trial 
 version of BusyCal for Mac. It has fantastic features, but unfortunately the 
 actual calendar part of the application seems completely invisible to 
 VoiceOver. It also seems to make VoiceOver really sluggish. I will contact 
 the developer though and hopefully might be able to work something out.
 
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Re: fantastical 2 is an app I like more than apple calendar

[Danny Noonan]

If that's turning the phone to landscape mode I can't make use of it. If it's 
something else I don't think so. 


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Sent from my iPhone

 On 1 Nov 2013, at 9:40 am, Christina C. blindmaclo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Cool! I didn’t know about swiping the day ticker left or right. Did you get 
 the month view calendar? This is my favorite feature along with being able to 
 see my reminders on the same page. I never thought about using the rotor and 
 headings to move through my list.
 Sent from Christina's iMac :)
 
 On Oct 31, 2013, at 1:18 PM, Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net wrote:
 
 Go to Settings help and the last option is to contact them. 
 
 I quite like the date ticker  only being the date as it suits it's function 
 IMO. Also when date ticker is in focus a 3 finger swipe left or right moves 
 by 3 days. To add to that when the events section, ie events and reminders, 
 roter on headings will move day by day and 3 finger swipe up or down will 
 scroll larger amounts although I've found this a tad buggy as focus jumps 
 back to my start point at times. I'll tap and hold on the month heading and 
 jump straight to the date or nearbye it and then use the date ticker or 
 headings in events to check round the date I want. 
 
 Sorry if this is obvious to some. I've only played with the app for 40 
 minutes and with no mention of VoiceOver anywhere I had to reinvent the 
 wheel a bit. It's a different beast to apples calendar app. Smile. 
 
 
 Danny. 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 1 Nov 2013, at 3:08 am, Christina C. blindmaclo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I have no idea how to contact or find the contact info for the developer 
 and I have also never done this before, so this would be new territory for 
 me. :)  I know this sounds sad but I never feel like I can sound smart 
 enough to be convincing. LOL!
 
 Christina
 On Oct 30, 2013, at 6:17 PM, Nicholas Parsons 
 mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 This sounds great I will go get it now. I've always heard good things 
 about Fantastical but until Apple stuffed up Calendar in iOS 7 I never 
 thought I'd need it because Apple's Calendar was great. I've always wanted 
 to see my calendar events and reminders/ToDo's in one place though, so 
 this point really sold me.
 
 Regarding VoiceOver not announcing the day of the week in month view: How 
 about contacting the developer on this issue? That should be something the 
 developer could easily address and I agree it would be a really useful 
 feature for VoiceOver users. 
 
 Just while we're on the topic of calendars, I also downloaded the trial 
 version of BusyCal for Mac. It has fantastic features, but unfortunately 
 the actual calendar part of the application seems completely invisible to 
 VoiceOver. It also seems to make VoiceOver really sluggish. I will contact 
 the developer though and hopefully might be able to work something out.
 
 Cheers,
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Re: Fantastical for iOS

[Danny Noonan]

All your problems are caused by the intro tips. Once you do the 3 tasks it 
gives you your settings etc will not be greyed any more. 

When they say swipe or slide down vo users do a double tap and hold and when 
the tone sounds slide your finger down a bit. With this and double tap on the 
today button etc I was able to get into the app proper. 



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 On 31 Oct 2013, at 2:52 pm, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I bought Fantastical 2 today on sale. Everything seems labeled properly, but 
 still having some issues getting it working.
 
 1. The settings button remains dim. Presumably I have to do something to 
 activate this button, but not sure what that is.
 2. Welcome message remains displayed. The welcome message tells me to swipe 
 down on the date picker to reveal the calendar. I can't work out how to do 
 this.
 3. Unable to open events or mark reminders as complete. Double tapping on 
 reminders or events doesn't seem to do anything.
 
 If anyone can help with any of these issues I'd really appreciate it.
 
 Cheers,
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Re: Home and end keys on mbp

[Danny Noonan]

Also, fn up arrow is page up and fn down arrow is page down. 


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 Hi List. Well, I've finally got my new MacBook Pro  and starting to learn the 
 basics. Have heaps of podcasts on downcast to go through thanks to David 
 Woodbridge and Applevis - smile.
 One podcast talked about using vo home to go to the top of the page and vo 
 end to get to the bottom. For the life of me I can't find a home or end key 
 on the mbp keyboard. I even had my sighted husband have a look and he 
 couldn't find these keys either. 
 I have tried key describer and everything but they remain a mystery.
 Can anyone enlighten me as to how I find these keys or how to perform the 
 functions to get to the top and bottom of things. 
 Thanks, 
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Re: keystroke to jump to message body in Apple Mail compose window?

[Danny Noonan]

Knowing how flaky I have been lately i probably said vo shift down arrow 
instead of end or something stupid like that. I also left out the importance of 
not interacting. Blush. . That's what I ment.  Smile. I use that in several 
apps to get to the edit body etc. 

Thanks. 


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 On 3 Oct 2013, at 6:05 am, Greg Aikens gpaik...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Why not just hit VO+Shift+End (VO+Shift+ FN+Right Arrow on my Macbook Pro)?  
 As long as you don't interact with the To and CC fields, this should take you 
 straight to the body.  Just interact with it and start typing.
 
 -Greg
 
 Greg Aikens, M. Ed.
 Teacher of students who are blind and visually impaired
 Cobb County School District
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 On Oct 2, 2013, at 7:52 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Wow, that does work. Thanks! Yes, it only works from the to field here as 
 well, but it's better than nothing.
 On Oct 2, 2013, at 3:57 AM, Red.Falcon velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi!
 OK I've just had a go and if you go from [to field] to [subject field] you 
 have to tab!
 But for some reason if you go back to [CC/BCC field] hitting VO+j takes you 
 in to the main body!
 HTH Colin
 
 On 2 Oct 2013, at 04:15, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 as far as I know, there is no shortcut.  You just have to tab to the body.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
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 Hi all,
 I feel like I saw this once, but maybe not. Is there a keystroke to jump 
 straight to the message body when you are writing a new message? Often I 
 just want to fill in the first two fields, then start typing, instead of 
 tabbing past the headers, from, and signature options. As I said, maybe I 
 dreamed this or something, but I thought there was a way to do this. 
 Thanks.
 
 
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Re: keystroke to jump to message body in Apple Mail compose window?

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Can't you just do vo shift end or something? My mac is terminally ill or IDE 
check.  


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 Hi all,
 I feel like I saw this once, but maybe not. Is there a keystroke to jump 
 straight to the message body when you are writing a new message? Often I just 
 want to fill in the first two fields, then start typing, instead of tabbing 
 past the headers, from, and signature options. As I said, maybe I dreamed 
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Re: folders on the mac

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I like to use command o or command downn arrow to open the folder i want to put 
my new sub folder into. Then its alwayse in the right spot. 


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 You must be in list view, or whatever view it is when you hit cmd-3. Either 
 hit cmd-2 and create your folder, or go one level up. So, to make a folder in 
 Documents in the cmd-3 view, move to Documents and hit cmd-shift-n. To make a 
 folder on the same level as Documents, go to the Users folder, find the 
 folder for your account, and hit cmd-shift-n there.
 On Sep 30, 2013, at 11:48 PM, jean parker radiofore...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello All:
 I am trying to make a new folder in my documents directory.  I hit command 
 shift n but the folder keeps ending up inside of one of the folders already 
 in my documents folder.  I know I have done this before because I have 
 folders already created but I am missing something that is keeping the 
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Re: Audiobooks

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You don't sync audible books from computer to iOS. You download to the phone 
seperetly   

In the audible app make sure clowd is selected and then go to settings. Tap 
refresh entire library and then the book should show up in the list. Double tap 
on the book and you will find a download all option. 

Hope this helps. If you still have trouble I'll write a better description when 
I'm not so rushed. 



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 I bought an audiobook on iTunes on my Mac last night today I went to sync it 
 to my phone but it's not showing up under books or anywhere so I can sync it 
 
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Re: Audiobooks

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Sorry, 5 am brain fart. How I herd audible I don't know. Blush. 


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 to my phone but it's not showing up under books or anywhere so I can sync it 
 
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Re: Battery Life on IOS 7

[Danny Noonan]

Obviously there are many variables as with all respect to your experience, most 
people neger get that kind of battery life even if not using there phone much 
at all. 

Ky battery life has gotten less and less from iOS 5 and took a huge reduction 
with 7. I religiously turn off wifi when out, keep apps shutdown between use, 
keep screen curtain on and brightness on 0 etc. I let my phone run down to 0% 
battery too and still have to recharge in the afternoon. I leave with 90% at 
7.40 and get home at 4.30 often with battery in single didjets having used the 
phone a maximum of 2 hours. 

Wanna swap phones made? :-) 


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 On 25 Sep 2013, at 2:06 pm, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yeah.
 
 I’m like you.  If I’m really conservative, I can get about 26 to 28 hours.  
 But generally, I get about 18 to 20 hours on a single charge.  Enough to get 
 me through the day.  This has been the case for me on all my iPhones.  The 4, 
 4S, and now the 5.
 
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 On Sep 24, 2013, at 11:10 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Forty-eight hours? I can get through a full day assuming I don't use the 
 phone all the time, but that's the extent of it. You are either blessed with 
 a magical phone, or... well, I don't know.
 
 As I said, I disabled Frequent Locations in iOS7 and that seems to have 
 helped a lot. My battery still drops faster than it used to, but not nearly 
 as much. I'll let it go to 0% soon and re-charge it as others have suggested 
 to see if that helps anything.
 On Sep 24, 2013, at 11:01 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I'm not sure why many are having battery life issues with iOS 7.  I really 
 haven't noticed a significant difference from iOS 6 to 7.  I'm not on my 
 iPhone all day but fairly often in my opinion, have Mail Push and Fetch set 
 to Manual, don't always close every app when I should, have FaceBook, 
 Calendar and a few other apps set to notify me even in the locked screen, 
 work in buildings with lots of block walls which affect signal strength and 
 numerous other normal iPhone usage factors.  An, I usually get over 48 
 hours of battery life on my iPhone 5.  I'm not convinced that these 
 problems are necessarily an issue that an iOS update will fix, although, I 
 could very well be mistaken.  All concerns raised here are valid and that's 
 kind of why we have this list.
 
 So, what am I rambling on for?  Don't jump to conclusions, keep asking 
 questions, keep supplying helpful answers, keep investigating to determine 
 answers and your iPhone experience should remain positive.
 
 That's my nickel's worth, we don't have pennies anymore so 2 cents is an 
 obsolete amount.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On 2013-09-24, at 5:09 PM, Taylor Scott taylor9...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Coming in late to this thread.
 I personally don't have a battery issue with Ios7, on a 4, and 5...
 What are the usage stats saying?
 Useage and standby times?
 
 Also, has the people experiencing the drainage tried doing a complete
 restore, and not restoring?
 I.E, do a restore, and then do not sync your device for a day or 2 to
 see if the battery acts any different?
 
 
 On 9/24/13, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com wrote:
 I think that Ricardo is spot on with respect to past updates, but not this
 time.  In fact, several sighted friends and relatives have been making the
 same complaints -- I wonder if that means their sighted peers who do not
 seem to be having a battery issue will consider them paranoid, recklessly
 screaming drama queens.  Ricardo's post was respectful and level-headed, 
 and
 worth considering.  However, to suggest that those of us who are reporting
 serious battery drain  are  predicting the imminent collapse of the earth
 and that we are at risk of giving blind people a bad reputation is absurd,
 offensive, and uncalled-for.
 Christine
 On Sep 24, 2013, at 6:36 PM, CJ Daniel cj.bear.dan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Riccardo,
 
 Way to stay level-headed, assess the data,  not scream the sky is
 falling!  The sky is falling!  If you keep this up, you'll give blind
 folks a good reputation.
 
 Seriously, some good points,
 
 CJ
 
 
 On Sep 23, 2013, at 10:03 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 lol,
 
 Hi.  I kid you not, I see this with every, single, major update to IOS.
 a bunch of people start complaining on how terrible their battery life
 is.  Now, before anyone gets upset, I’m not saying some cases aren’t
 genuine.  But, the overwhelming majority are not.
 
 Let us step back and think what happens when we get a major update.  For
 the majority of us, usage goes up.  At least in the short term.  If 
 there
 was a chart out there, I bet you would see a usage spike right after
 major updates.  Everyone wants to check out all the new features,
 improvements, etc.  So naturally, the battery is 

Re: has anyone been able to return audible books successfully with voice over?

[Danny Noonan]

I haven't done it on the mac but I've done it 2 or 3 times on my iPhone running 
iOS6. 

It was a tad fiddely but certainly is possible. 


Danny. 
Sent from my iPhone

 On 24 Sep 2013, at 2:00 am, Maria and Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi list.
 
 the subject line says it all.  I was trying to return a book I bought in 
 error and had some trouble using voice over.  I ended up writing to customer 
 service and they did it for me.  They then proceded to send me instructions 
 on how to do it. I was doing it correctly but when clicking on the return 
 link with vo nothing seemed to happen.  Is anyone getting this to work or are 
 there any work arounds?  If not perhaps we should write to audible and see if 
 they can address the problem?
 
 thanks 
 Blessings!
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Re: Colors

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You can't unfortunately. Lots of low vision users hate it too. 


Danny. 
Sent from my iPhone

 On 20 Sep 2013, at 8:04 am, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi guys
 Does anybody know how to restore the old color scheme that was in iOS 6? It 
 doesn't matter to me, but my sided husband can't stand the new color scheme. 
 Hey has been using voice over today to read a book or something. I think he 
 wants to practice since his eyes of been bothering him.
 Regards,
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Re: How to use loops in Garageband for iOS?

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It can be done but there are major limitations at least in my experience.

To bring a loop into your project, double tap and hold Pass through and it 
will drop in the project. unfortunately as far as I'm aware there is no reel 
way to be able to choose where it goes unless you have a little site or very 
good screen awareness and even then… I've also found that after a while 
projects seem to break. I can no longer copy loops in or no matter what I try, 
they drop in the middle of other loops on other tracks.

As for resizing them, from memory and it has been a while, double tap on the 
loop within your project and handles should appear. You can double tap and hold 
on a handle to stretch or shrink the loop and if things are playing nicely, vo 
will give a vocal indication of how much your stretching/shrinking  much like 
when you move a track/loop etc.

Sorry if this isn't accurate, it's been a while and my memory aint so good any 
more. grin  There is a podcast on applevis about using garageband on iOS that 
may help refresh your skills.

Hope this helps a bit.

Danny:

On 26/08/2013, at 4:42 PM, Daniela Rubio mabuha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all:
 I am working on Garageband in iPad with some students and I need to bring 
 some loops to my project. How do I do this using VoiceOver? I find the loop I 
 want, but I can't do anything. I would like to copy and be able to change its 
 duration. I remember that I did this before, but I don't know if it is 
 because I forgot how to do it, or because something has changed and it is not 
 possible anymore.
 Thank you very much for your ideas!
 Best
 
 Daniela Rubio T
 iphone: +34662328507
 
 
 
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Re: What I think Apple needs to change: was: Re: best way to navigate Mail when Quick Nav is on?

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I'm not arguing with that. It's the way many programs deal with interaction 
that's the real problem in my opinion. Lots of separate sections with multiple 
layers and no efficient method to switch between them like you can through 
containers. I understand the concept and see how it can and often is a great 
concept. It's all about integration. .

Danny.

On 04/08/2013, at 9:55 PM, Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com wrote:

 But interaction makes so much more sense.
 Its basically telling VO,  this is what I want to focus on, and not like 
 windows where it reads you every single thing and half the time you have to 
 read it anyway, and with VO you can choose to or not.
 Matt Dierckens
 matt.dierck...@gmail.com
 
 IOS and Macintosh User support, Windsor area
 Sight Substitution Centre
 
 On 2013-08-04, at 7:30 AM, Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net wrote:
 
 I'm thinking of Garage band and how often you interact and stop interacting 
 over and over again. There are some key strokes but it's still such a time 
 sink.
 
 I don't know how it could be done away with fully but better use of 
 interaction by software would certainly make life easier. Have it be more 
 universal across apps both native and third party. Making vo j work in most 
 if not all multi interaction situations. Some times now it's vo j, other 
 times, vo command shift t to switch between tables and other times like in 
 the Sendspace wizard, you have 3 or more levels of interaction and have to 
 move up 2 levels, vo right and then interact in another chain of levels. 
 Arg.  
 
 I love the mac but this is 1 of those things that makes the experience far 
 sloppier and less consistent and is a major stumbling block on many coming 
 to love using the OS despite its many advantages over windows.
 
 Danny.
 
 On 31/07/2013, at 9:03 AM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I think it is obvious that the interaction deal is one of the most 
 difficult things that somebody who moves from Windows to Mac needs to deal 
 with. What is frustrating is that it is not always clear when one needs to 
 interact. Trial and error and lots of keystrokes and wasted time result. I 
 certainly do agree that tabbing until your finger falls off isn't the best 
 solution. But I do wonder if there might not be a more innovative means of  
 efficiently navigating complex screens. Sometimes, it isn't even clear, for 
 instance, that you are in a situation where interacting again would yield 
 more info. I'm thinking of nested tables as an example. VO doesn't always 
 announce the fact that you have moved into a level 12 or even 3 table or 
 that you could do so by interacting. Maybe that is a coding issue, not a VO 
 issue. I do wonder if there are actual blind users who work for Apple who 
 have experience with other operating systems. I say that not because I want 
 to see some other approach duplicated, but because I've seen too much 
 tunnel vision coming from folks whose only experience is with one or 
 another os. 
 
 Mary
 
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Re: Daisy readers for IOS?

[Danny Noonan]

Sorry for the late reply. Voice Dream Reader can read Daisy Text and Read2Go 
can read Text or Audio.

Danny.

On 28/07/2013, at 6:47 PM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:

 I think voice dream reader can do them too. It can do bookshare anyways.
 sent from my Mac Mini with iCloud.
 Devin prater
 email and iMessage: d.pra...@me.com or r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
 Skype:
 devinprater
 msn:
 devinpra...@live.com
 
 
 On Jul 24, 2013, at 1:08 PM, Maria and Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi.  the only one i know of is read2go. It costs aprox $20.00 and is the 
 bookshare app but it does daisy files.
 
 hth 
 Warm regards and blessings 
 Maria, Joe and FurBabies
 Email:  iMessage:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On 24/07/2013, at 8:51 AM, Paul Hunt prhu...@att.net wrote:
 
 Hello everyone. I have some Daisy books that I created with the Plextalk 
 recording software and want to read them on my IPhone. Is there a Daisy 
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Re: What I think Apple needs to change: was: Re: best way to navigate Mail when Quick Nav is on?

[Danny Noonan]

I'm thinking of Garage band and how often you interact and stop interacting 
over and over again. There are some key strokes but it's still such a time sink.

I don't know how it could be done away with fully but better use of interaction 
by software would certainly make life easier. Have it be more universal across 
apps both native and third party. Making vo j work in most if not all multi 
interaction situations. Some times now it's vo j, other times, vo command shift 
t to switch between tables and other times like in the Sendspace wizard, you 
have 3 or more levels of interaction and have to move up 2 levels, vo right and 
then interact in another chain of levels. Arg.  

I love the mac but this is 1 of those things that makes the experience far 
sloppier and less consistent and is a major stumbling block on many coming to 
love using the OS despite its many advantages over windows.

Danny.

On 31/07/2013, at 9:03 AM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think it is obvious that the interaction deal is one of the most difficult 
 things that somebody who moves from Windows to Mac needs to deal with. What 
 is frustrating is that it is not always clear when one needs to interact. 
 Trial and error and lots of keystrokes and wasted time result. I certainly do 
 agree that tabbing until your finger falls off isn't the best solution. But I 
 do wonder if there might not be a more innovative means of  efficiently 
 navigating complex screens. Sometimes, it isn't even clear, for instance, 
 that you are in a situation where interacting again would yield more info. 
 I'm thinking of nested tables as an example. VO doesn't always announce the 
 fact that you have moved into a level 12 or even 3 table or that you could do 
 so by interacting. Maybe that is a coding issue, not a VO issue. I do wonder 
 if there are actual blind users who work for Apple who have experience with 
 other operating systems. I say that not because I want to see some other 
 approach duplicated, but because I've seen too much tunnel vision coming from 
 folks whose only experience is with one or another os. 
 
 Mary
 
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Burn - Home

[Danny Noonan]

This is probably old news to many of you but my Brother just put me on to Burn. 
It's a great, simple and VO friendly disk burning app for the mac. I hate 
having to make play lists just to burn audio cd's in iTunes so when he shared 
this app it made my day.

Paste or drag and drop audio files including flack straight in to the app. Make 
mp3 audio, Data, video/dvd etc disks. 

The app has mp3 tagging and other features that I haven't played with so can't 
comment on there accessibility but for the price, free, being able to burn 
disks so easily is fantastic.

Find info on the app at
http://burn-osx.sourceforge.net/Pages/English/home.html 

Hope this is of use to some.

Kind regards,
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Main Stage question.

[Danny Noonan]

I own MainStage. I guess it's Main Stage II as I got it earlier this year 
through the app store. I hadn't reinstalled it since my OS reinstall so decided 
to download it from the app store app from purchases. I get an error saying 
that the app is currently not available in the Australian app store. Any ideas? 

Thanks.

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Finder view question.

[Danny Noonan]

I don't know what I've done but I have my finder view set to list and sort set 
to name but the numbered files are showing up in reverse order. I want lowest 
alphanumeric files at the top of my lists but can't for the life of me work 
out how to do it. I've had it working on my mac for 18 months and since I had 
to reinstall the hd I can't get it back that way.

Any help appreciated.

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Re: Extracting audio from mp4 files.

[Danny Noonan]

Many thanks. I grabbed the software and it looks nice. If only a friend hadn't 
sent me a gig in MKV format as it seems to be one of the only formats not 
supported. smile

Thanks for the help.

Kind regards,
Danny.

On 26/06/2013, at 1:36 PM, Patrick Neazer patricknea...@mac.com wrote:

 Hello Danny and all:
 
 Mpeg stream clip is a great way to extract audio from a wide variety of 
 files. 
 
 I do not have the website in front of me though if you perform a google 
 search you should be able to dig it up. If you cannot find it, email me back 
 and I will sort it out for you.
 
 Hopefully this information proves useful. Please let us know.
 
 Take good care and I wish you enough.
 
 Patrick 
 On Jun 25, 2013, at 6:43 PM, Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net wrote:
 
 Is there any way to extract audio from mp4's? I have dvd extractor pro, 
 Amadeus pro, easy audio converter, right click mp3 and more and can't find a 
 way in any of them.
 
 Any help greatly appreciated.
 
 Thanks,
 Danny.
 
 
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Re: iPhone orientation

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Go to the app chooser by double tapping the home button. Now 3 finger swipe 
left and you will find an option to lock in portrait mode. When iOS 7 comes out 
it will be a little easier. 


Danny. 
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On 07/07/2013, at 10:41 AM, Scott Berry sb356...@gmail.com wrote:

 I don't think there is a way. To get it to go back to portrait just take the 
 top and stand it up and shake towards the botom and it should go back in to
 Portrait.
 
 
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 Hi everyone, can someone please tell me how to lock my phone orientation so 
 that it only stays in the portrait? Thanks so much,
 
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Labelling problem with iPhone.

[Danny Noonan]

I've been labelling some elements on my 4s in some third party apps like 
OPlayer and somehow now lots of edit fields and images/graphics are showing as 
name and not there correct labels. It's only happening to third party apps 
but when I can't read correct field titles in my banking app etc this little 
problem becomes huge. I do a lot on my 4s so any help would be very welcome 

I've taken all apps out of memory in app chooser, turned VO off and on, 
restarted my phone, done a 6 screen lock soft reset and a screen lock home 
button hard reset. I've also uninstalled and reinstalled apps all with no luck. 
Thanks in advance. 


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Re: accessing DropBox settings V 2.0.22

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It's a Dropbox issue. With VO on the menu opens and then closes again. Instead 
of VO space do VO shift space and you can get to the settings. 


Danny. 
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 I have the dropbox folder on an external drive and want to move it back onto 
 the MacHD. But, I can't seem to get the dropbox menu to open. I am using the 
 VO+M twice command, then pressing VO+space on the dropbox menu item. I've 
 also pressed VO+enter, but it just clunks and won't open.
 How can I get to the dropbox preferences so I can set the dropbox folder 
 location back onto the main HD?
  
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Re: finding dropbox

[Danny Noonan]

Yes you download it from the 
Dropbox.com
Site and do the following to install it properly. 

. Do a google search for
Install Dropbox with VoiceOver
And a great document from memory by maccessibility will turn up with simple 
instructions on installing Dropbox. Follow them or you won't get full access to 
functionality. 



Danny. 
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On 29/06/2013, at 2:20 PM, jean parker radiofore...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello All:
 So I went to the app store for the mac for the first time thinking that I 
 would download dropbox and see if I can figure it out.  I did a search for it 
 but all that the results showed appear to be some programs that work with 
 drop box.
 I am thinking perhaps it must be downloaded from the drop box site rather 
 than the  app store?
 Is there anything I need to know before installing it?
 Many thanks,
 Jean
 
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Remapping vo to capslock again.

[Danny Noonan]

With the updates to the apps to rout vo to caps lock, just wondered which app 
versions should be used now. I tried installing them and following the applevis 
instructions but it didn't work and I'm trying to work out what went wrong. 

Any help greatly appreciated.

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Extracting audio from mp4 files.

[Danny Noonan]

Is there any way to extract audio from mp4's? I have dvd extractor pro, Amadeus 
pro, easy audio converter, right click mp3 and more and can't find a way in any 
of them.

Any help greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
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Re my mp3 from mp4 question: Extract audio from video Directly in Mac OS X Lion

[Danny Noonan]

Well, after asking the list how to extract audio from mp4 video files I slapped 
myself for only looking for an app solution and looked closer to home and what 
do you know, ML can do the job for me. I followed the below instructions but 
did a batch conversion which worked exactly the same even though the 
instructions only mention single file conversion. Hope this helps anyone 
wanting to do what I wanted to do.

Many thanks.
Danny.

http://www.iskysoft.com/convert-audio/extract-audio-from-video.html#part1

Extract Audio from Video Directly in Mac OS X Lion

Part 1: Extract M4A audio from video in MPG, M4V, MP4 and MOV (Mountain Lion 
included)
If you own Mac OS X Mountain Lion, you will find that it is easy to process Mac 
audio extraction. This latest Mac system comes with the ability allowing you to 
extract audio from video. The Finder on it has the new built-in feature of 
media encoding, which enables you to do the extraction simply. However, it does 
not mean that you are able to extract audio from every video file. You only can 
extract audio from video in MP4, MPG, M4V and MOV format. And the audio 
extracted from video only can be saved in M4A files with 256kbps.
Directly convert video to audio track on your Mac OS X Mountain Lion:

Right click the video icon you would like to convert;
In the pop-up menu, click Encode Selected Video Files option at the bottom;


Then you will go to the Encode Media window. In Setting tab, select Audio 
Only option;


Do not click the Same as source file option and set a destination to save the 
output audio. Last, Click Continue to start to extract audio from video;
After that, you will get the M4A audio in a short time. The output audio file 
will come with the same name as the original one. You can double click the 
audio to open it by iTunes.

If you didn’t see the Encode options, you can

Head to the Apple menu and go to System Preferences;


Click Keyboard;


Go to the Keyboard Shortcuts tab;
Choose Services on the left sidebar and check“Encode Selected Audio Files” and 
“Encode Selected Video Files”

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Re: logic pro 9

[Danny Noonan]

I didn't get any impression of that. 


Danny. 
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On 20/06/2013, at 8:48 PM, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well I am sorry.  I was just trying to help.  You don't have to blame me.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 6:45 AM
 Subject: Re: logic pro 9
 
 
 Bad news dude,
 
 Blind Cool Tech programs seem to be 404 now. I found the entry you referred 
 to but can't download - not found. Bummer for sure.
 
 If they are going to throw away their files, then they should throw away the 
 links too. Nothing like link rot.
 
 On Jun 19, 2013, at 6:52 PM, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I myself have not done any on Amadeus, but there is a very very! good 
 podcast done on
 
 http://www.blindcooltech.com
 
 once there just do a search for the word Amadeus.  the guy is taking an old 
 lp record and converting it to mp3, but in the process, he does show you how 
 to edit, and move around, etc.  It's quite in depth, and frankly, it's the 
 exact recording I used to learn the app myself.  He did a bangup! job!
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: keith weatherly 
 musicma...@walterharper.org
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 3:15 PM
 Subject: Re: logic pro 9
 
 
 I don’t have pro tools yet, but I do have Amadeus. Do you have any podcasts
 on that program?
 
 -Original Message- From: Chris Gilland
 Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 8:10 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: logic pro 9
 
 No problem.  As I said, I am big into audio, and do professional audio
 design / production work for a living, so I know all about Garageband,
 ProTools, Amadeus, etc.  so if you need any further help, reach out to
 either my business's tech support department, or fire me off an e-mail
 either on or off list, and I'll try to help you out where I best can.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: keith weatherly 
 musicma...@walterharper.org
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 12:42 AM
 Subject: Re: logic pro 9
 
 
 ok thank you.
 
 -Original Message- From: Ricardo Walker
 Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 3:29 PM
 To: Macvisionaries
 Subject: Re: logic pro 9
 
 Hi,
 
 I’m pretty sure there is no logic 10 at this point.  9 is the current
 version of logic.  From everything I’ve read, its not very accessible with
 Voiceover either.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Jun 18, 2013, at 10:58 AM, Walter Harper walterharp...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I don’t think there is a podcast for logic 9 logic 10 is the current 
 version.
 
 
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of keith weatherly
 Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:21 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: logic pro 9
 
 Does any one know if or where there’s a audio podcast that goes over Logic 
 pro 9 using Voiceover?
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Re: iPad questions

[Danny Noonan]

Sam and I use my apple I'd so we can both gain access to all my apps but she 
has her apple I'd for her mail messages etc.  definitely the best way to save 
money but retain indevedual contact ability. We share Dropbox so sharing is 
easy between devices. 


Danny. 
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On 19/06/2013, at 12:21 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes, bluetooth keyboards will work just fine. It has Notes, which is good for 
 basic note taking and syncs (through iCloud) with any other iOS or OS10 
 device tied to your account. You can buy Pages if you need serious text 
 editing, or any of hundreds of editors out there. You can just plug the iPad 
 into the Mac and import the photos using iPhoto, but you really should 
 consider using iCloud. It will sync contacts, calendars, reminders, notes, 
 Safari reading lists and open tabs, and more (especially once iOS7 and OS10.9 
 come out). It is a very convenient way to keep things up to date - add an 
 appointment on the Mac, and your iPad or iPhone will remind you of it, for 
 instance, or take notes on the iPad, and then open the notes on the Mac for 
 exporting or further editing. That said, each person has an iCloud, so if it 
 were me, I'd set your wife up with her own account, then make a new user 
 account on the Mac and tie her Apple ID to that one. That way, if she wants 
 to use the Mac for iPad-related things, she can just log into her account and 
 you never have to worry about having both of your content mixing with each 
 other.
 On Jun 18, 2013, at 9:39 PM, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
 I am thinking of getting my wife an iPad for her birthday later in the year. 
 I have been on the Apple site and read as much as I can find. 
 I have a few questions.
 Can we connect a Bluetooth keyboard to an iPad?
 Also does it come with Textedit or similar?
 I would like to take any photos from her iPad and store them on my Mac that 
 is backed up to Carbonite. We don't use iCloud so how would I transfer the 
 pictures to my computer? We have a wireless network if this can be used.
 Thanks for any advice.
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Re: night owl question

[Danny Noonan]

It's also easy and quite helpful to set up hotspots to automatically say which 
tab your in and how many characters are left when writing tweets. Well, it was 
last time I played with it. I don't seem to have time for twitter any more. Dam 
RealWorld. smile

Danny:



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 Direct messages are in their own tab. Either cmd-right twice from the main 
 timeline tab, or press ctrl-3. Incidentally, mentions are one tab right of 
 the timeline, or ctrl-2, and, of course, the main timeline is ctrl-1. You 
 have other tabs, and can even make your own if you want to, though I have not 
 tried that yet.
 
 To view a conversation, move to a tweet and press cmd-3. This changes your 
 current timeline to show all messages in the conversation; hit cmd-1 to 
 return to normal. By the way, cmd-2 shows a user view, which is recent tweets 
 from the user.
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Re: VMWare Fusion for $15 (plus shipping)

[Danny Noonan]

Lucky Americans. Grin. I've got to grab it but it'll be the $50 down under. 



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 Hi all,
 Fusion is normally $50 i believe, but Dell has a DVD of the program for only 
 $15! I don't know if this is a sale and, if so, how long it will last, so if 
 you need Fusion (as I do), go grab it now! Here is the link:
 http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=usl=ens=bsdcs=04sku=A6502528dgc=SScid=261927lid=4738769acd=12309177348460817
 
 
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Apple Mail question.

[Danny Noonan]

I've had disk issues with my mac since day 1 and finally after 2 years talked 
apple into installing a new hard disk so I'm setting up from scratch again. 
With this in mind, I've somehow stumbled on the 48000 messages that were 
somehow stored on my mail server. There now all in an old messages folder in 
apple mail.

This is good because I don't have to try and grab the couple of thousand 
archive messages from my corrupted ccc boot disk backup but trying to work with 
1 folder with this many messages is painful. The amount of busy notifications 
and mail restarts is astounding. grin

My question is, I'm trying to apply message rules to this folder so that I can 
have list messages in appropriate folders to be able to work with them but all 
I can find is control option l to apply message rules. I've tried this in the 
folder with all message s highlighted and not highlighted but nothing seems to 
be working. Is there a way to force apple mail to apply rules to a specific 
folder or set of messages?

Thanks in advance and apologies for the next batch of questions in advance 
also..

Danny.

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Re: Apple Mail question.

[Danny Noonan]

Thanks muchly for the tips. I didn't know the mail activity hotkey. That's 
great to have.

I decided I had to trim the monster mailbox  down to give mail a chance to be 
able to function at all so I've been experimenting with folder searches saved 
into smart folders where I can delete or move as required and it seems to be 
helping. I've gotten rid of 3 or 4  thousand so far but have a long way to go. 
turns out it was still downloading and there were 65000 messages when it had 
finished.. I'm frankly amazed mail can function at all with this. Windows would 
have pooped itself to death way before this. smile.

Thanks again.

Danny.

On 15/06/2013, at 7:04 PM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I think the problem is that you've got so many messages and it will take a 
 long time for Mail to scan your messages and apply the rules. I've done this 
 before with a few thousand messages and I too thought nothing was hapenning 
 for a long time. I can't imagine what it would be like with 48 thousand. So, 
 my advice, after you try applying rules, press command-option-0 to view Mail 
 activity. Take a look and see if Mail is doing anything. If it is, then just 
 give it time. If not, then let us know and maybe someone will have more ideas.
 
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Re: Bone conduction your phones with iPhone

[Danny Noonan]

You can use them for music but can't expect hifi quality. For hearing VO whilst 
still being fully aware of your surroundings they are amazingly good. My 
brother and I use them for calls as well and if the mike is placed well then 
they work perfectly well. 

I find them great in meetings class rooms etc.   At first going from never 
wearing them to 4 to 8 hours in a day I tended to get the occasional headache 
but that was a bunch of extreme changes of which the conduction was a small 
part. 

I love them and for me there worth every penny and the battery life s amazing. 
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On 15/06/2013, at 4:30 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:

 Hi guys
 I bought BlindSquare for my iPhone yesterday. It recommends getting bone 
 conduction your phones, and I found the ones on Amazon for aftershock. The 
 reviews I read seemed somewhat mixed. But these people were using them for 
 different things that I want to use them for. A lot of them were using it for 
 music and phone calls. However, I want to hear GPS information on. If 
 anybody's got some of these things, do you like them?
 Regards,
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Re: contacts manager in i phone

[Danny Noonan]

All things new iOS users deel with. Please don't think me patronising but 
frustration slows down the learning curve quite a lot. Everything is rational 
and accessible but not expected or in a manner most of us expect. ESP people 
like me from a windows background. 

The first thing to remember is that each field you want to add or change 
information in has to be made active like entering into forms mode in jfw. 
Touch a field like last name and then lift your finger and tap twice anywhere 
on the screen and this will activate the field. Touch to highlight the field or 
controll then 1 finger double tap to start editing. Sounds like your trouble is 
you don't do this again on the next field. The way to know an edit field is 
activated is when you touch the field it will say the field name followed by is 
editing. Eg in my mail message the subject says subject text field. Double tap 
to edit but the message body says message body text field editing. 

Some times you will find a back next and done button just above the keyboard. 
Think of them as shift tab tab and ok. Back and next will move you back and 
forth through the fields making your current field active automatically. Done 
Is pretty self explanatory. It's an ok button 
 for the mobile button, I don't know anyone who didn't think it was for putting 
in the number. Me and my friends sure did.  Smile. This is a button you can 
press to get a list of number types. There labels but in the case of iPhone, if 
someone has iPhone set for their number you can automatically send them 
iMessages saving SMS charges plus use FaceTime etc. not esenchal but very 
handy.  


Danny. 
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On 15/06/2013, at 7:08 AM, jean parker radiofore...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello All:
 I am having no end of trouble with the contacts manager on the i phone.
 Finding a contact is ok for the most part although trying to slog through the 
 letter headings is annoying.  
 My current problem is how to add a contact.  When I open up the add contacts 
 thing the first thing it wants to know is whether I want to add a photo.  
 Whatever.  Then it has a field for last name and then first name.  Somehow 
 when I try to enter the last name in the last name field ten the first name 
 in the first name field they both end up in the last name field.  Next comes 
 company then mobile button.  Thinking this is where I put someone's mobile 
 number I tap this and get some nonsense about labels If I cancel this and 
 return to the add contact dialogue I find a mobile phone text field that was 
 not there previously.  This text field contains  a keypad I guess but then 
 when I return to the add contact screen once again I have to go all the way 
 to the done field in order to hopefully save the contact.  There has to be a 
 better way.
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Re: contacts manager in i phone

[Danny Noonan]

It's easy to do but stupid in method. You have to edit the contact, scroll to 
the bottom with a 3 finger swipe up and flick to delete contact which is the 
very bottom option 



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On 15/06/2013, at 11:19 AM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ok, to add to this thread, how do you go about removing a contact?  I think I 
 stumbled across this once, but can't remember how I found it now, so could 
 use a memory refresher, sense I have several I need to get rid of.
 On Jun 14, 2013, at 5:18 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
 
 My responses are in the below message.
 On Jun 14, 2013, at 5:08 PM, jean parker radiofore...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello All:
 I am having no end of trouble with the contacts manager on the i phone.
 Finding a contact is ok for the most part although trying to slog through 
 the letter headings is annoying.  
 My current problem is how to add a contact.  When I open up the add 
 contacts thing the first thing it wants to know is whether I want to add a 
 photo.  Whatever.  Then it has a field for last name and then first name.  
 Somehow when I try to enter the last name in the last name field ten the 
 first name in the first name field they both end up in the last name field.
 Are you double tapping on each field in turn? Just flicking to the next 
 field is not enough, you must then tap on it to edit it.
 
 Next comes company then mobile button.  Thinking this is where I put 
 someone's mobile number I tap this and get some nonsense about labels
 This is the place where you can label the phone number. If the contact only 
 has a work and home number, you would hit the mobile button, choose work 
 or home, then hit done.
 
 If I cancel this and return to the add contact dialogue I find a mobile 
 phone text field that was not there previously.
 No, it was there all along, but when you get out of the labels screen you 
 are automatically focused on the field to enter the number you just labeled.
 
 This text field contains  a keypad I guess but then when I return to the 
 add contact screen once again I have to go all the way to the done field in 
 order to hopefully save the contact.  There has to be a better way.
 What do you mean by return? Once you are adding the number, just touch the 
 number field or the label button, then keep flicking right to enter 
 additional information.
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Re: features I wish Apple would have included

[Danny Noonan]

Oh I'm pretty sure. Fanboy trates often lead those afflicted to trample over 
facts, rational discussion and argument with empty snark and irrational 
assertions.  Commonly if it is stated that it would be nice to have some 
feature set of the rival product this is taken as a personal attack on that 
fanboys item of adoration. The assumed assertion that ones god is not all 
powerful if you will. Accusations that a man or product is less than perfect is 
tad amount to defiling ones temple. 

Don't you talk badly about queen  though as we all go a little fanboy at times 
but as long as it isn't to often most people forget or forgive after a while. 
Smile. 



Danny. 
Sent from my iPhone

On 12/06/2013, at 9:19 AM, CJ Daniel cj.bear.dan...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey Dave,
 
 Not sure if you meant your comments to come across as rude, but you managed 
 it brilliantly.  As far as what list Mike should be on goes, maybe you're 
 unaware of how much Mike has done over the last four or five years to promote 
 the Mac in the blind community  He was probably one of the first to take the 
 plunge  has been willing to share his efforts  hard won knowledge with 
 fellow-travelers in the form of 15 or so podcasts on switching to the Mac  
 many email responses to his listeners.  I'm not personally acquainted with 
 Mike, but I have all of his podcasts stored on my drive  appreciate the 
 confidence he helped me to gain in switching to the Mac, after 25+ years with 
 CP/M, DOS,  windows in the personal  professional world.  I think Mike's 
 just one of those people who will explore any technology without forming 
 silly allegiances to any name brand,  I.E. if it can do something different 
 or, maybe even better, why not give it a whirl.  I certainly think that 
 spirit lead him to try the Mac, when most of us were clinging to Windows  
 over-priced screen reader add-ons.  For what it's worth, I appreciate his 
 pioneering spirit  think your response was out of place.
 
 CJ
 
 On Jun 11, 2013, at 2:18 AM, Dave dave...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Is it just me, or is it at all possible you're on the wrong mailing list?
 
 
 I'm sure there's an Android list around somewhere that would be happy to 
 have you.
 
 Perhaps you don't understand why IOS is the way that it is, and what that 
 means for the companies, the developers, or for the installed user base.But 
 it's just a guess.
 
 
 I thought the WWDC Keynote yesterday was filled with all kinds of things to 
 look forward to for all of the above. I look forward to playing with 
 Mavericks and IOS7 in the future! I think it'll be an awesome experience!
 
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Re: Mail not opening conversations?

[Danny Noonan]

I'm curious. Is there a difference between command o and enter in this 
situation. Pressing enter  on a conversation I often don't even have to 
interact with messages as they will read as I move between them and I don't 
mean message  preview either. 



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wrote:

 I don't know how to solve this problem of yours, but the way I read Mail 
 conversations I don't ever encounter the problem. When I get to a 
 conversation in the messages table, I just command-O to open it. By default I 
 end up in one of the messages. To read another message in the conversation I 
 just stop interacting with the message and then VO-left and right arrows to 
 get to the other messages in the conversation and then interact with them. 
 Maybe it's more steps than what you do, but it behaves consistently. 
 
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Re: features I wish Apple would have included

[Danny Noonan]

I don't recall saying or implying that in any way what so ever. To tell someone 
their on the wrong list because someone said it would be nice to have some 
feature sets similar to android is however a sign of likely fanboy itas. In my 
home we have 2 apple tv's 2 MacBooks 4 iPhones, an AirPort Extreme and an iPod 
touch. I'm dug in the apple camp good and strong but do I think wanting new 
features and less restrictions means someone should nick off and go android? Of 
course not because I agree. Do I tell my 10year  old daughter perhaps she is in 
the wrong house as she likes my temp windows laptop?! Surely the difference 
between people who love apple and share their enjoyment and knolidge is obvious 
when compared with the stark black and white world of the fanboy. 

I currently have no plans to move to the dark side and go android for many 
reasons but if apple in the future drops the qualety and or accessibility ball 
ill certainly see if android in my own personal opinion has become a better 
choice for me with my totally personal and specific needs and expectations. 
Also I'm a child in a 39 year old body and respond childishly to snark like was 
shown in reply to a well thought out statement. 

Danny. 
Sent from my iPhone

On 14/06/2013, at 5:13 AM, Kerri shalo...@shaw.ca wrote:

 I don't necessarily agree with this assumption totally. I think personally 
 that not everyone who sticks with one product is nor should be, entitled a 
 fan boy just as I think that not everyone who is looking at the competition 
 is disrespecting what they currently use.  
 
 Allow me to explain. I use one product for the simple reason that our cell 
 providers don't' allow one to return a product if it does not work and we 
 annoy switch sim cards if we buy a new phone. Does that make me a fanboy? No, 
 it just makes me very cautious to try new or different products.  Would I 
 consider Android et al if I were able, maybe.
 On 2013-06-13, at 12:09 PM, Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net wrote:
 
 Oh I'm pretty sure. Fanboy trates often lead those afflicted to trample over 
 facts, rational discussion and argument with empty snark and irrational 
 assertions.  Commonly if it is stated that it would be nice to have some 
 feature set of the rival product this is taken as a personal attack on that 
 fanboys item of adoration. The assumed assertion that ones god is not all 
 powerful if you will. Accusations that a man or product is less than perfect 
 is tad amount to defiling ones temple. 
 
 Don't you talk badly about queen  though as we all go a little fanboy at 
 times but as long as it isn't to often most people forget or forgive after a 
 while. Smile. 
 
 
 
 Danny. 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 12/06/2013, at 9:19 AM, CJ Daniel cj.bear.dan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hey Dave,
 
 Not sure if you meant your comments to come across as rude, but you managed 
 it brilliantly.  As far as what list Mike should be on goes, maybe you're 
 unaware of how much Mike has done over the last four or five years to 
 promote the Mac in the blind community  He was probably one of the first to 
 take the plunge  has been willing to share his efforts  hard won 
 knowledge with fellow-travelers in the form of 15 or so podcasts on 
 switching to the Mac  many email responses to his listeners.  I'm not 
 personally acquainted with Mike, but I have all of his podcasts stored on 
 my drive  appreciate the confidence he helped me to gain in switching to 
 the Mac, after 25+ years with CP/M, DOS,  windows in the personal  
 professional world.  I think Mike's just one of those people who will 
 explore any technology without forming silly allegiances to any name brand, 
  I.E. if it can do something different or, maybe even better, why not give 
 it a whirl.  I certainly think that spirit lead him to try the Mac, when 
 most of us were clinging to Windows  over-priced screen reader add-ons.  
 For what it's worth, I appreciate his pioneering spirit  think your 
 response was out of place.
 
 CJ
 
 On Jun 11, 2013, at 2:18 AM, Dave dave...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Is it just me, or is it at all possible you're on the wrong mailing list?
 
 
 I'm sure there's an Android list around somewhere that would be happy to 
 have you.
 
 Perhaps you don't understand why IOS is the way that it is, and what that 
 means for the companies, the developers, or for the installed user 
 base.But it's just a guess.
 
 
 I thought the WWDC Keynote yesterday was filled with all kinds of things 
 to look forward to for all of the above. I look forward to playing with 
 Mavericks and IOS7 in the future! I think it'll be an awesome experience!
 
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Re: Mail not opening conversations?

[Danny Noonan]

Oh I do the same thing a lot of the time. Both methods work for different 
situations. 



Danny. 
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On 14/06/2013, at 7:09 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think they both do the same thing. Yes, I often use that trick as well, but 
 sometimes I only want the most recent message, or most of the messages are 
 already read, or for some other reason I want to just expand the conversation.
 On Jun 13, 2013, at 3:22 PM, Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net wrote:
 
 I'm curious. Is there a difference between command o and enter in this 
 situation. Pressing enter  on a conversation I often don't even have to 
 interact with messages as they will read as I move between them and I don't 
 mean message  preview either. 
 
 
 
 Danny. 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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 wrote:
 
 I don't know how to solve this problem of yours, but the way I read Mail 
 conversations I don't ever encounter the problem. When I get to a 
 conversation in the messages table, I just command-O to open it. By default 
 I end up in one of the messages. To read another message in the 
 conversation I just stop interacting with the message and then VO-left and 
 right arrows to get to the other messages in the conversation and then 
 interact with them. Maybe it's more steps than what you do, but it behaves 
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Re: a couple questions about IOS 7

[Danny Noonan]

I didn't here that. I thought the only mention of lock screen was that 
notifications could be accessed from it. 



Danny. 
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On 12/06/2013, at 8:08 PM, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well I would say do a three finger swipe up from the lock screen to bring up 
 the Control Centre. According to the keynote this is accessed from the lock 
 screen, nowhere else.
 
 
 Chris
 
 On 12/06/2013 02:33, Ray Foret jr wrote:
 I would also supsect that, since three finger swipe down from the status bar 
 would open the notification center, three finger swipe up from focusing at 
 the status bar would bring up the control area.
 
 
 Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
 
 On Jun 11, 2013, at 8:29 PM, Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net wrote:
 
 My guess is 3 finger swipe up but look at 3 finger flick to refresh as 
 aposed to notifications which is tap status bar which is the top edge of 
 the screen. VO only has so many reasonable ways to tap flick swipe slide 
 etc. I'm not assuming VO is on or off but rather what possible forms of 
 reasonable interaction still remain. Smile.
 
 
 
 Danny.
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 12/06/2013, at 10:54 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 This is assuming that action would be the same for Voiceover users.  I can 
 imagine Apple making this modified when VO is on.  Similar to notification 
 center.  people who do not use Voiceover just slide down with 1 finger 
 instead of 3.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Jun 11, 2013, at 8:14 PM, Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net wrote:
 
 Yep. As from edge is now different we will have to get better at mid 
 screen swiping. I already deal with this on the mac trackpad.
 
 
 
 Danny.
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 12/06/2013, at 9:51 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 
 I can't answer the question you asked concerning your fourth generation 
 device, but I do have a question and I don't know if anybody on this 
 list knows the answer. When we got iOS 6 one of the problems I had until 
 I stopped making the same mistake of time, was constantly calling the 
 notifications center when I was trying to go to a previous page in 
 Safari or something like that. Apple is adding in the control center 
 which is down on the bottom level the way I understand it so that you 
 swiped from bottom to top. I can just see myself constantly calling out 
 the control center whether I want aeronaut. I guess we are going to have 
 to use the middle part of the screen to do page swipes.
 Regards,
 Gigi
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 11, 2013, at 2:14 PM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:
 
 So my fourth gen iPod is now obsolete? Erg
 
 Sent from my iPod
 
 On Jun 11, 2013, at 8:05 AM, Scott Davert scottslistm...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 For the record, iOS 7 will be available for the iPhone 4 and higher,
 all iPads except for the original, and only the 5th gen iPod. They did
 confirm that it will be a fall release, but didn't specify a date. My
 somewhat educated guess would be September, but you really never can
 tell with Apple.
 
 Scott
 
 On 6/11/13, Scott Berry sb356...@gmail.com wrote:
 Awesome Michael thanks much.
 
 \
 
 On 6/10/13 21:58, Michael Babcock, Marketing and Sales Manager, 
 Commtech
 LLC wrote:
 You will be able to update your iPad 2, via settings, general, 
 software
 update. The iPad 2 will be supported on iOS 7 according to the 
 worldwide
 developers convention today.
 
 Michael Babcock
 Marketing and Sales Manager
 Commtech LLC
 Web: http://commtechusa.net
 phone: (888) 351-5289 Ext. 704
 Fax: (480) 535-7649
 
 On Jun 10, 2013, at 9:52 PM, Scott Berry sb356...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello there,
 
 Firstly, when it is available what will the page show that has IOS 
 7 on
 it?  Will it show a download link like?
 
 Secondly, is IOS 7 going to work on the old Ipad 2's?
 
 
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Re: The podcast application

[Danny Noonan]

I'm guessing like in many apple apps double Tap and hold until the tone and 
slide right will work as well. It works in many apps actually. 



Danny. 
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On 12/06/2013, at 6:29 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Really?  I'm not having any trouble.  I just tried deleting a podcast now, 
 and it worked easily.  I double tapped the edit button, then double tapped 
 the delete switch for the podcast I wanted to delete.  Voiceover then moved 
 focus to the confirm deletion button, and I double tapped that.
 
 hth
 
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 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Jun 12, 2013, at 3:53 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 That podcast App was always difficult when deleting content. Turn voice over 
 off swipe to the right and double tap when you have selected the item to be 
 deleted. I could never do it so that's why I have Downcast installed. 
 Perhaps in IOS7 the Podcast will have improved.
 
 Kawal.
 
 On 12 Jun 2013, at 12:57 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 
 I got this message from iTunes, and I downloaded the free application from 
 Apple for podcasts. I can't figure out how to delete one. There is a delete 
 button, But I can't make it work for some reason. How do you delete one? Do 
 you have to do it from iTunes?
 Regards,
 Gigi
 
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Re: a couple questions about IOS 7

[Danny Noonan]

Sorry, thought you were saying only from the lock screen and that wouldn't be 
true as they made such a point of it working from anywhere.



Danny. 
Sent from my iPhone

On 12/06/2013, at 11:06 PM, Scott Davert scottslistm...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Danny.
 No, they did say that you would be able to access the control center
 through the lock screen. I also suspect that you'd have to go in to
 the status bar and then swipe up for it, since it's the opposite
 gesture of the notification center for sighted folks.
 Yes, the iPod 4 is out of the running, but really, it seemed a bit
 sluggish on iOS 6, so that's not surprising. I'd not run my iPhone 4
 on it, in fact, I roled back to iOS 5.1 on that. SO I ccan still have
 the lack of sluggishness and browse the web without the headings issue
 of VoiceOver.
 
 Scott
 
 On 6/12/13, Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net wrote:
 I didn't here that. I thought the only mention of lock screen was that
 notifications could be accessed from it.
 
 
 
 Danny.
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 12/06/2013, at 8:08 PM, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Well I would say do a three finger swipe up from the lock screen to bring
 up the Control Centre. According to the keynote this is accessed from the
 lock screen, nowhere else.
 
 
 Chris
 
 On 12/06/2013 02:33, Ray Foret jr wrote:
 I would also supsect that, since three finger swipe down from the status
 bar would open the notification center, three finger swipe up from
 focusing at the status bar would bring up the control area.
 
 
 Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind
 built-in!
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
 
 On Jun 11, 2013, at 8:29 PM, Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net
 wrote:
 
 My guess is 3 finger swipe up but look at 3 finger flick to refresh as
 aposed to notifications which is tap status bar which is the top edge of
 the screen. VO only has so many reasonable ways to tap flick swipe slide
 etc. I'm not assuming VO is on or off but rather what possible forms of
 reasonable interaction still remain. Smile.
 
 
 
 Danny.
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 12/06/2013, at 10:54 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 This is assuming that action would be the same for Voiceover users.  I
 can imagine Apple making this modified when VO is on.  Similar to
 notification center.  people who do not use Voiceover just slide down
 with 1 finger instead of 3.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Jun 11, 2013, at 8:14 PM, Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net
 wrote:
 
 Yep. As from edge is now different we will have to get better at mid
 screen swiping. I already deal with this on the mac trackpad.
 
 
 
 Danny.
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 12/06/2013, at 9:51 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 
 I can't answer the question you asked concerning your fourth
 generation device, but I do have a question and I don't know if
 anybody on this list knows the answer. When we got iOS 6 one of the
 problems I had until I stopped making the same mistake of time, was
 constantly calling the notifications center when I was trying to go
 to a previous page in Safari or something like that. Apple is adding
 in the control center which is down on the bottom level the way I
 understand it so that you swiped from bottom to top. I can just see
 myself constantly calling out the control center whether I want
 aeronaut. I guess we are going to have to use the middle part of the
 screen to do page swipes.
 Regards,
 Gigi
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 11, 2013, at 2:14 PM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:
 
 So my fourth gen iPod is now obsolete? Erg
 
 Sent from my iPod
 
 On Jun 11, 2013, at 8:05 AM, Scott Davert scottslistm...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 For the record, iOS 7 will be available for the iPhone 4 and
 higher,
 all iPads except for the original, and only the 5th gen iPod. They
 did
 confirm that it will be a fall release, but didn't specify a date.
 My
 somewhat educated guess would be September, but you really never
 can
 tell with Apple.
 
 Scott
 
 On 6/11/13, Scott Berry sb356...@gmail.com wrote:
 Awesome Michael thanks much.
 
 \
 
 On 6/10/13 21:58, Michael Babcock, Marketing and Sales Manager,
 Commtech
 LLC wrote:
 You will be able to update your iPad 2, via settings, general,
 software
 update. The iPad 2 will be supported on iOS 7 according to the
 worldwide
 developers convention today.
 
 Michael Babcock
 Marketing and Sales Manager
 Commtech LLC
 Web: http://commtechusa.net
 phone: (888) 351-5289 Ext. 704
 Fax: (480) 535-7649
 
 On Jun 10, 2013, at 9:52 PM, Scott Berry sb356...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hello there,
 
 Firstly, when it is available what will the page show that has
 IOS 7 on
 it?  Will it show a download link like?
 
 Secondly, is IOS 7 going to work on the old Ipad 2's?
 
 
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Re: features I wish Apple would have included

[Danny Noonan]

Well, toggle radios is added for sure and not only easily through out the os 
and lock screen but also through Siri. 




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On 13/06/2013, at 9:43 AM, Sean Murphy mhysnm1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello all.
 
 I hope they make it easier to delete contacts in the next version. Other 
 feature sets I would like to see:
 
 
 1. Being able to toggle on/off the bluetooth, wireless, VPN (if configured), 
 3/4g from the status bar.
 
 Improved voice recognition to permit you to create contacts, apps taking 
 advantage of it and being able to issue commands within standard apps 
 provided within IOS.
 
 Being able to direct your audio to a different speaker when you are on the 
 phone.
 
 Sean 
 
 On 12/06/2013, at 7:31 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Also the aeaility of wishing to save messages would be great as you could do 
 on the Nokia devices make new folders in messages and save the messages.
 
 On 12 Jun 2013, at 10:27 AM, Daniela Rubio mabuha...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all!
 I am very happy with what we have listened in the WWDC. One thing I would 
 love, is to have the ability of copy the last to clipboard as we have in 
 mac. That would help a lot for selecting chunks of text from different 
 places including Safari, instead of having to do it by hand, or in the case 
 of messages, with the edit option.
 Best
 
 Daniela Rubio T
 iPhone: +34662328507
 
 
 
 
 
 
 El 12/06/2013, a las 03:37, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com 
 escribió:
 
 Would love to see a delete all feature in all folders if iat all possible, 
 especially if you end up with a massive amount of e-mail, and don't have 
 time to delete/read 3 or 4 messages before more come in.
 On Jun 11, 2013, at 8:06 PM, Danny Noonan wrote:
 
 Email rules and delete all as well  would be wonderful  come to think of 
 it. 
 
 
 
 Danny. 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 12/06/2013, at 9:42 AM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 One thing I'd love to see them include, is the option to mark message as 
 Spam, not spam, etc., the ability to transfer files you've transferred 
 from someone else's Itunes library to your own without the use of 
 another 3rd-party app, and in agreement, would love to see these devices 
 be able to be mounted as drives.
 On Jun 11, 2013, at 7:33 PM, Danny Noonan wrote:
 
 There are several things I would love but iOS becoming android isn't 1. 
 I'd very much like Braille and Bluetooth keyboards to get more 
 functionality. Command n for new email, document, iMessage in specific 
 apps for example. 
 
 
 
 Danny. 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 11/06/2013, at 10:29 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen 
 annieskovniel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi.
 
 I am very saticefied with IOS, I do not need many more options exept 
 for some braille options. I would really love, if we could get allowed 
 to make our own keyboard layout for our speciffic needs and to use all 
 our keys on our braille displays in a better way.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 Den Jun 11, 2013 kl. 1:50 PM skrev Nicholas Parsons 
 mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com:
 
 I think the suggestions are fair enough. They're all good things but 
 as was said it's a matter of opinion and people will differ.
 
 Personally, I think Dropbox is a more than adequate replacement to a 
 file management system. In fact it's much better than anything Apple 
 could do as it's cross platform and just awesome. So if you don't yet 
 use Dropbox, go get it now.
 
 As for typing, I'm not all that big on Flexy. I much prefer 
 BrailleTouch. But, with either app I still feel I really need the 
 built in iOS keyboard at the end to do any final editing. Neither of 
 those apps (Flexy and BrailleTouch) are very good at editing once 
 you've already typed. At least Flexy wasn't last time I used it 
 which, admittedly, was a while ago.
 
 I don't think I really need additional TTS on my iPhone for anything. 
 Hence I don't bother with VoiceDream. I don't mind an additional 
 100MB here or there on my device either as I tend to have much more 
 storage than I really need. I would, however, like the option to 
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 only one premium voice and having to use compact voices for other 
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Re: Bizarre problem with iOS, and mail.

[Danny Noonan]

There is a documented bug that gives an error message when moving or deleting 
messages in imap. I don't know if this will help but it can't hurt trying. 

Settings / mail contacts calender
Enter advanced settings for the mail account and in
Imap path prefix
Write the following in all caps
INBOX

See if that helps. 




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Sent from my iPhone

On 13/06/2013, at 1:18 PM, Ray Foret jr rfore...@att.net wrote:

 The only thing I can hazard a guess at is that perhaps some data in the 
 account information section got corrupted:  or, perhaps, your Iphone believes 
 it's corrupted.  Just about the only solution I can suggest is the one you 
 already posited.
 
 
 Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
 
 On Jun 12, 2013, at 9:57 PM, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello guys. I am having a really bizarre problem on my iPhone, and hope that 
 one of you may have some insight as to what might be going on.
 
 To be frankly honest, I do not check email very often on my phone, I 
 normally do so from my nac. I am noticing however, that when I double tap 
 the delete option, or swipe down with one finger through the actions rotor, 
 And go to delete an email, more specifically, move it to the trash folder, 
 if the email is Originally and my Gmail inbox, I am getting an error message 
 that states that the message cannot be moved to the trash folder. This is 
 completely absurd, as in all actuality, it really does move it. And I can 
 confirm this by looking in the Gmail trash folder, and when I do, the email 
 definitely is there. I am also successfully able to clean it out of the 
 trash folder with no problem whatsoever. This is just totally weird! Like I 
 said, I have no earthly idea when this problem started. I've only recently 
 noticed it. So yeah… If anyone Has any idea what the heck might be going on, 
 Please let me know; I am very intrigued. This is just wickedly strange. I 
 have Gmail configured on my phone using IMAP, not pop three. It is 
 exhibiting this problem both over Wi-Fi, as well as over LTE. I suppose that 
 I could remove the account, and re-added, however, I would rather not do 
 that unless it be absolutely necessary. At any rate, if any of you have any 
 earthly idea, as I said, let me know. No pressure, just curious.
 
 Have an absolutely magnificent, and blessed day.
 
 Chris.
 
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Re: Mail not opening conversations?

[Danny Noonan]

It's definitely known by apple. Friends and I have written. I even had it 
happen with folders in finder and when it happened was drag and drop in mail 
favourites bar etc wouldn't work. I suspect it has a link with some background 
processes as it happened at predictable times some of the time. 



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On 13/06/2013, at 1:17 PM, Ray Foret jr rfore...@att.net wrote:

 This is an issue which also plegues me from one time to another.  Seems to me 
 Apple needs to know about this and act upon it.  Perhaps if we wrote to the 
 accessibility address at Apple we could perhaps put a bit of a bug in their 
 ear you think?
 
 
 Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
 
 On Jun 12, 2013, at 9:56 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 This happens from time to time, and it usually goes away on its own, but now 
 it is not. Hitting right arrow or vo-backslash on a conversation in Mail 
 does not open it (conversely, any open conversations refuse to close). I 
 have restarted Mail as well as VO, but to no avail. Short of restarting the 
 Mac, is there a way to get Mail to behave? Thanks.
 
 
 Have a great day,
 Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
 mehg...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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Re: features I wish Apple would have included

[Danny Noonan]

Ill just add to this, since I was put onto FileBrowser on list recently I've 
fallen in love. It's integration with Dropbox, additional buildable file 
structure, built in media player,  unzip and ability to add pcs macs nas and 
additional cloud options like sky drive etc plus open files  in other apps 
gives me plenty of options for using my iDevices in more open, powerful and 
useful ways.  



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wrote:

 I think the suggestions are fair enough. They're all good things but as was 
 said it's a matter of opinion and people will differ.
 
 Personally, I think Dropbox is a more than adequate replacement to a file 
 management system. In fact it's much better than anything Apple could do as 
 it's cross platform and just awesome. So if you don't yet use Dropbox, go get 
 it now.
 
 As for typing, I'm not all that big on Flexy. I much prefer BrailleTouch. 
 But, with either app I still feel I really need the built in iOS keyboard at 
 the end to do any final editing. Neither of those apps (Flexy and 
 BrailleTouch) are very good at editing once you've already typed. At least 
 Flexy wasn't last time I used it which, admittedly, was a while ago.
 
 I don't think I really need additional TTS on my iPhone for anything. Hence I 
 don't bother with VoiceDream. I don't mind an additional 100MB here or there 
 on my device either as I tend to have much more storage than I really need. I 
 would, however, like the option to download additional premium voices. I 
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Re: features I wish Apple would have included

[Danny Noonan]

There are several things I would love but iOS becoming android isn't 1. I'd 
very much like Braille and Bluetooth keyboards to get more functionality. 
Command n for new email, document, iMessage in specific apps for example. 



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On 11/06/2013, at 10:29 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Hi.
 
 I am very saticefied with IOS, I do not need many more options exept for some 
 braille options. I would really love, if we could get allowed to make our own 
 keyboard layout for our speciffic needs and to use all our keys on our 
 braille displays in a better way.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 Den Jun 11, 2013 kl. 1:50 PM skrev Nicholas Parsons 
 mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com:
 
 I think the suggestions are fair enough. They're all good things but as was 
 said it's a matter of opinion and people will differ.
 
 Personally, I think Dropbox is a more than adequate replacement to a file 
 management system. In fact it's much better than anything Apple could do as 
 it's cross platform and just awesome. So if you don't yet use Dropbox, go 
 get it now.
 
 As for typing, I'm not all that big on Flexy. I much prefer BrailleTouch. 
 But, with either app I still feel I really need the built in iOS keyboard at 
 the end to do any final editing. Neither of those apps (Flexy and 
 BrailleTouch) are very good at editing once you've already typed. At least 
 Flexy wasn't last time I used it which, admittedly, was a while ago.
 
 I don't think I really need additional TTS on my iPhone for anything. Hence 
 I don't bother with VoiceDream. I don't mind an additional 100MB here or 
 there on my device either as I tend to have much more storage than I really 
 need. I would, however, like the option to download additional premium 
 voices. I don't like being stuck with only one premium voice and having to 
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Re: features I wish Apple would have included

[Danny Noonan]

Email rules and delete all as well  would be wonderful  come to think of it. 



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On 12/06/2013, at 9:42 AM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:

 One thing I'd love to see them include, is the option to mark message as 
 Spam, not spam, etc., the ability to transfer files you've transferred from 
 someone else's Itunes library to your own without the use of another 
 3rd-party app, and in agreement, would love to see these devices be able to 
 be mounted as drives.
 On Jun 11, 2013, at 7:33 PM, Danny Noonan wrote:
 
 There are several things I would love but iOS becoming android isn't 1. I'd 
 very much like Braille and Bluetooth keyboards to get more functionality. 
 Command n for new email, document, iMessage in specific apps for example. 
 
 
 
 Danny. 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 11/06/2013, at 10:29 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi.
 
 I am very saticefied with IOS, I do not need many more options exept for 
 some braille options. I would really love, if we could get allowed to make 
 our own keyboard layout for our speciffic needs and to use all our keys on 
 our braille displays in a better way.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 Den Jun 11, 2013 kl. 1:50 PM skrev Nicholas Parsons 
 mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com:
 
 I think the suggestions are fair enough. They're all good things but as 
 was said it's a matter of opinion and people will differ.
 
 Personally, I think Dropbox is a more than adequate replacement to a file 
 management system. In fact it's much better than anything Apple could do 
 as it's cross platform and just awesome. So if you don't yet use Dropbox, 
 go get it now.
 
 As for typing, I'm not all that big on Flexy. I much prefer BrailleTouch. 
 But, with either app I still feel I really need the built in iOS keyboard 
 at the end to do any final editing. Neither of those apps (Flexy and 
 BrailleTouch) are very good at editing once you've already typed. At least 
 Flexy wasn't last time I used it which, admittedly, was a while ago.
 
 I don't think I really need additional TTS on my iPhone for anything. 
 Hence I don't bother with VoiceDream. I don't mind an additional 100MB 
 here or there on my device either as I tend to have much more storage than 
 I really need. I would, however, like the option to download additional 
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Re: a couple questions about IOS 7

[Danny Noonan]

Yep. As from edge is now different we will have to get better at mid screen 
swiping. I already deal with this on the mac trackpad. 



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On 12/06/2013, at 9:51 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:

 I can't answer the question you asked concerning your fourth generation 
 device, but I do have a question and I don't know if anybody on this list 
 knows the answer. When we got iOS 6 one of the problems I had until I stopped 
 making the same mistake of time, was constantly calling the notifications 
 center when I was trying to go to a previous page in Safari or something like 
 that. Apple is adding in the control center which is down on the bottom level 
 the way I understand it so that you swiped from bottom to top. I can just see 
 myself constantly calling out the control center whether I want aeronaut. I 
 guess we are going to have to use the middle part of the screen to do page 
 swipes.
 Regards,
 Gigi
 
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 On Jun 11, 2013, at 2:14 PM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:
 
 So my fourth gen iPod is now obsolete? Erg 
 
 Sent from my iPod
 
 On Jun 11, 2013, at 8:05 AM, Scott Davert scottslistm...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 For the record, iOS 7 will be available for the iPhone 4 and higher,
 all iPads except for the original, and only the 5th gen iPod. They did
 confirm that it will be a fall release, but didn't specify a date. My
 somewhat educated guess would be September, but you really never can
 tell with Apple.
 
 Scott
 
 On 6/11/13, Scott Berry sb356...@gmail.com wrote:
 Awesome Michael thanks much.
 
 \
 
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 LLC wrote:
 You will be able to update your iPad 2, via settings, general, software
 update. The iPad 2 will be supported on iOS 7 according to the worldwide
 developers convention today.
 
 Michael Babcock
 Marketing and Sales Manager
 Commtech LLC
 Web: http://commtechusa.net
 phone: (888) 351-5289 Ext. 704
 Fax: (480) 535-7649
 
 On Jun 10, 2013, at 9:52 PM, Scott Berry sb356...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello there,
 
 Firstly, when it is available what will the page show that has IOS 7 on
 it?  Will it show a download link like?
 
 Secondly, is IOS 7 going to work on the old Ipad 2's?
 
 
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Re: features I wish Apple would have included

[Danny Noonan]

IDE join you and even let you lead if they did. Grin. 



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On 12/06/2013, at 10:50 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:

 Lol,
 
 especially delete all.  Oh boy! I would do a little dance around my house if 
 they added that 1 feature.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Jun 11, 2013, at 8:06 PM, Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net wrote:
 
 Email rules and delete all as well  would be wonderful  come to think of it. 
 
 
 
 Danny. 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 12/06/2013, at 9:42 AM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 One thing I'd love to see them include, is the option to mark message as 
 Spam, not spam, etc., the ability to transfer files you've transferred from 
 someone else's Itunes library to your own without the use of another 
 3rd-party app, and in agreement, would love to see these devices be able to 
 be mounted as drives.
 On Jun 11, 2013, at 7:33 PM, Danny Noonan wrote:
 
 There are several things I would love but iOS becoming android isn't 1. 
 I'd very much like Braille and Bluetooth keyboards to get more 
 functionality. Command n for new email, document, iMessage in specific 
 apps for example. 
 
 
 
 Danny. 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 11/06/2013, at 10:29 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen 
 annieskovniel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi.
 
 I am very saticefied with IOS, I do not need many more options exept for 
 some braille options. I would really love, if we could get allowed to 
 make our own keyboard layout for our speciffic needs and to use all our 
 keys on our braille displays in a better way.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 Den Jun 11, 2013 kl. 1:50 PM skrev Nicholas Parsons 
 mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com:
 
 I think the suggestions are fair enough. They're all good things but as 
 was said it's a matter of opinion and people will differ.
 
 Personally, I think Dropbox is a more than adequate replacement to a 
 file management system. In fact it's much better than anything Apple 
 could do as it's cross platform and just awesome. So if you don't yet 
 use Dropbox, go get it now.
 
 As for typing, I'm not all that big on Flexy. I much prefer 
 BrailleTouch. But, with either app I still feel I really need the built 
 in iOS keyboard at the end to do any final editing. Neither of those 
 apps (Flexy and BrailleTouch) are very good at editing once you've 
 already typed. At least Flexy wasn't last time I used it which, 
 admittedly, was a while ago.
 
 I don't think I really need additional TTS on my iPhone for anything. 
 Hence I don't bother with VoiceDream. I don't mind an additional 100MB 
 here or there on my device either as I tend to have much more storage 
 than I really need. I would, however, like the option to download 
 additional premium voices. I don't like being stuck with only one 
 premium voice and having to use compact voices for other languages.
 
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Re: a couple questions about IOS 7

[Danny Noonan]

My guess is 3 finger swipe up but look at 3 finger flick to refresh as aposed 
to notifications which is tap status bar which is the top edge of the screen. 
VO only has so many reasonable ways to tap flick swipe slide etc. I'm not 
assuming VO is on or off but rather what possible forms of reasonable 
interaction still remain. Smile. 



Danny. 
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On 12/06/2013, at 10:54 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 This is assuming that action would be the same for Voiceover users.  I can 
 imagine Apple making this modified when VO is on.  Similar to notification 
 center.  people who do not use Voiceover just slide down with 1 finger 
 instead of 3.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Jun 11, 2013, at 8:14 PM, Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net wrote:
 
 Yep. As from edge is now different we will have to get better at mid screen 
 swiping. I already deal with this on the mac trackpad. 
 
 
 
 Danny. 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 12/06/2013, at 9:51 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 
 I can't answer the question you asked concerning your fourth generation 
 device, but I do have a question and I don't know if anybody on this list 
 knows the answer. When we got iOS 6 one of the problems I had until I 
 stopped making the same mistake of time, was constantly calling the 
 notifications center when I was trying to go to a previous page in Safari 
 or something like that. Apple is adding in the control center which is down 
 on the bottom level the way I understand it so that you swiped from bottom 
 to top. I can just see myself constantly calling out the control center 
 whether I want aeronaut. I guess we are going to have to use the middle 
 part of the screen to do page swipes.
 Regards,
 Gigi
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 11, 2013, at 2:14 PM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:
 
 So my fourth gen iPod is now obsolete? Erg 
 
 Sent from my iPod
 
 On Jun 11, 2013, at 8:05 AM, Scott Davert scottslistm...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 For the record, iOS 7 will be available for the iPhone 4 and higher,
 all iPads except for the original, and only the 5th gen iPod. They did
 confirm that it will be a fall release, but didn't specify a date. My
 somewhat educated guess would be September, but you really never can
 tell with Apple.
 
 Scott
 
 On 6/11/13, Scott Berry sb356...@gmail.com wrote:
 Awesome Michael thanks much.
 
 \
 
 On 6/10/13 21:58, Michael Babcock, Marketing and Sales Manager, Commtech
 LLC wrote:
 You will be able to update your iPad 2, via settings, general, software
 update. The iPad 2 will be supported on iOS 7 according to the worldwide
 developers convention today.
 
 Michael Babcock
 Marketing and Sales Manager
 Commtech LLC
 Web: http://commtechusa.net
 phone: (888) 351-5289 Ext. 704
 Fax: (480) 535-7649
 
 On Jun 10, 2013, at 9:52 PM, Scott Berry sb356...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello there,
 
 Firstly, when it is available what will the page show that has IOS 7 on
 it?  Will it show a download link like?
 
 Secondly, is IOS 7 going to work on the old Ipad 2's?
 
 
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Re: from snow leopard to mountain lion with voice over

[Danny Noonan]

There are some great resources by david Woodbridge on the vision Australia site 
but I don't have my laptop to search addresses but I'm sure you would find 
stuff in google. David has put a lot of his stuff on the applevis podcast feed 
as wellso you'll find that and more at
Www.applevis.com




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 I wonder if there is a resource somewhere that I can use to educate myself 
 about the changes in voice over and major applications between SL and ML. 
 
 Mary
 
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Re: a couple questions about IOS 7

[Danny Noonan]

That's like 12 years in 20th century tech obsolescence years. Grin. 




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On 12/06/2013, at 3:43 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:

 haha.
 
 I guess so.  It had a 4 year run though so, Its not that surprising.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Jun 11, 2013, at 3:14 PM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:
 
 So my fourth gen iPod is now obsolete? Erg 
 
 Sent from my iPod
 
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 For the record, iOS 7 will be available for the iPhone 4 and higher,
 all iPads except for the original, and only the 5th gen iPod. They did
 confirm that it will be a fall release, but didn't specify a date. My
 somewhat educated guess would be September, but you really never can
 tell with Apple.
 
 Scott
 
 On 6/11/13, Scott Berry sb356...@gmail.com wrote:
 Awesome Michael thanks much.
 
 \
 
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 LLC wrote:
 You will be able to update your iPad 2, via settings, general, software
 update. The iPad 2 will be supported on iOS 7 according to the worldwide
 developers convention today.
 
 Michael Babcock
 Marketing and Sales Manager
 Commtech LLC
 Web: http://commtechusa.net
 phone: (888) 351-5289 Ext. 704
 Fax: (480) 535-7649
 
 On Jun 10, 2013, at 9:52 PM, Scott Berry sb356...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello there,
 
 Firstly, when it is available what will the page show that has IOS 7 on
 it?  Will it show a download link like?
 
 Secondly, is IOS 7 going to work on the old Ipad 2's?
 
 
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Re: I just saw Ibooks on the dock in the OSX Maverick demo @ WWDC!!!!

[Danny Noonan]

Be aware you just off sided a large number of Christians and that seems to be a 
disproportionate amount of VIPs. ;p



Danny. 
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On 11/06/2013, at 5:23 AM, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think Ray was concerned about the smart alak comment I made regarding the 
 Chita.  Frankly, I think some people need to grow up, and take a joke for 
 christ sake!  I was kidding!  It's not like I bombed the list with sligh 
 remarks.  I made one meezley little joke for god sake!  Anyway, whatever 
 trips his trigger, I guess.  Igh yigh yigh.  I'm not getting in the middle of 
 it.  I got better things to deal with than list drama.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Pete Nalda lpna...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 3:19 PM
 Subject: Re: I just saw Ibooks on the dock in the OSX Maverick demo @ WWDC
 
 
 Well, I thought your question was a valid one, to me.  I really did find it 
 a surprise they moved away from the cat theme.  I thought there were way 
 more species available to use.
 
 On Jun 10, 2013, at 2:15 PM, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Well, excuse me for asking a question!  Christ alive!
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Ray Foret jr rfore...@att.net
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 3:01 PM
 Subject: Re: I just saw Ibooks on the dock in the OSX Maverick demo @ 
 WWDC
 
 
 Waste of bandwidth.
 
 
 Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
 
 On Jun 10, 2013, at 1:29 PM, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 When you say Mavericks, I assume that's the code name for 10.9, kind of 
 like Mountain Lion is for 10.8?
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Pete Nalda lpna...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 1:57 PM
 Subject: Re: I just saw Ibooks on the dock in the OSX Maverick demo @ 
 WWDC
 
 
 Yeah, I hope they talk about Mavericks Accessibility and the various 
 apps, but I'm like you, I think it should be accessible.
 
 On Jun 10, 2013, at 12:51 PM, Tyler Thompson tktpianostud...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 confirmed, iBooks is there
 On Jun 10, 2013, at 11:49 AM, Pete Nalda lpna...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'm pretty sure I wasn't seeing things, but my stream went down, and 
 they just passed calendar, so I can't confirm.
 
 On Jun 10, 2013, at 12:31 PM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:
 
 That will be simply amazing!
 
 Sent from my iPod
 
 On Jun 10, 2013, at 12:28 PM, Pete Nalda lpna...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Too excited, but I saw Ibooks' icon on the dock.
 
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Re: Cat Types was I just saw Ibooks on the dock in the OSX Maverick demo @ WWDC!!!!

[Danny Noonan]

I was hanging for tabby myself. Oh well, with the new california names I guess 
I can look forward to fault line soon. We'll just call it osx fault. 



Danny. 
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On 11/06/2013, at 6:38 AM, Red.Falcon velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com 
wrote:

 I was looking forward to Sabre-toothed Tiger myself! Oh well I guess not!
 
 On 10 Jun 2013, at 20:23, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I think Ray was concerned about the smart alak comment I made regarding the 
 Chita.  Frankly, I think some people need to grow up, and take a joke for 
 christ sake!  I was kidding!  It's not like I bombed the list with sligh 
 remarks.  I made one meezley little joke for god sake!  Anyway, whatever 
 trips his trigger, I guess.  Igh yigh yigh.  I'm not getting in the middle 
 of it.  I got better things to deal with than list drama.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Pete Nalda lpna...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 3:19 PM
 Subject: Re: I just saw Ibooks on the dock in the OSX Maverick demo @ 
 WWDC
 
 
 Well, I thought your question was a valid one, to me.  I really did find it 
 a surprise they moved away from the cat theme.  I thought there were way 
 more species available to use.
 
 On Jun 10, 2013, at 2:15 PM, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Well, excuse me for asking a question!  Christ alive!
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Ray Foret jr rfore...@att.net
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 3:01 PM
 Subject: Re: I just saw Ibooks on the dock in the OSX Maverick demo @ 
 WWDC
 
 
 Waste of bandwidth.
 
 
 Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
 
 On Jun 10, 2013, at 1:29 PM, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 When you say Mavericks, I assume that's the code name for 10.9, kind of 
 like Mountain Lion is for 10.8?
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Pete Nalda lpna...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 1:57 PM
 Subject: Re: I just saw Ibooks on the dock in the OSX Maverick demo @ 
 WWDC
 
 
 Yeah, I hope they talk about Mavericks Accessibility and the various 
 apps, but I'm like you, I think it should be accessible.
 
 On Jun 10, 2013, at 12:51 PM, Tyler Thompson 
 tktpianostud...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 confirmed, iBooks is there
 On Jun 10, 2013, at 11:49 AM, Pete Nalda lpna...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'm pretty sure I wasn't seeing things, but my stream went down, and 
 they just passed calendar, so I can't confirm.
 
 On Jun 10, 2013, at 12:31 PM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:
 
 That will be simply amazing!
 
 Sent from my iPod
 
 On Jun 10, 2013, at 12:28 PM, Pete Nalda lpna...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Too excited, but I saw Ibooks' icon on the dock.
 
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Re: IOS 7 did I hear something right?

[Danny Noonan]

Weather the new Siri voices are also going to be new VoiceOver voices makes the 
question if not, will the new Siri voice be used at all  if VO is on.  



Danny. 
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 yes, siri has a new improved voice, and you can change it to a male voice 
 
 --apps have always been able to run in the background to some degree but now 
 there's smart logic to give priority to apps that you use often, it preserves 
 battery life.
 
 
 On Jun 10, 2013, at 3:36 PM, Michael Babcock, Marketing and Sales Manager, 
 Commtech LLC michael.babcoc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hey guys,
 Pretty sure when Siri was being demonstrated at the worldwide developer 
 convention this morning, I heard a much more clearer female voice, alongside 
 with I mail voice that was demonstrated. Therefore, it would be nice if 
 someone would be able to possibly confirm whether or not these features are 
 available in voice over, to utilize these voices. In addition, I noticed 
 that applications have the ability of running in the background now, does 
 this mean and API tie-in for Fleksy?
 
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Re: IOS 7 did I hear something right?

[Danny Noonan]

It is one or the other oh that I was trying to say that if VO doesn't get the 
voices they demonstrated for Siri it will either be VO voice for Siri or the 
Siri voice will take over which I doubt. 




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On 11/06/2013, at 9:34 AM, Ray Foret jr rfore...@att.net wrote:

 You're assuming it's either one or the other.  I guess (and it's only a guess 
 mind you) that, while in the Voice OVer settings, One will be able to choose 
 between the new male and female voices;  and, gone is Samantha.
 
 
 Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 Sincerely,
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 Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
 
 On Jun 10, 2013, at 5:28 PM, Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net wrote:
 
 Weather the new Siri voices are also going to be new VoiceOver voices makes 
 the question if not, will the new Siri voice be used at all  if VO is on.  
 
 
 
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 On 11/06/2013, at 7:45 AM, Tyler Thompson tktpianostud...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 yes, siri has a new improved voice, and you can change it to a male voice 
 
 --apps have always been able to run in the background to some degree but 
 now there's smart logic to give priority to apps that you use often, it 
 preserves battery life.
 
 
 On Jun 10, 2013, at 3:36 PM, Michael Babcock, Marketing and Sales Manager, 
 Commtech LLC michael.babcoc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hey guys,
 Pretty sure when Siri was being demonstrated at the worldwide developer 
 convention this morning, I heard a much more clearer female voice, 
 alongside with I mail voice that was demonstrated. Therefore, it would be 
 nice if someone would be able to possibly confirm whether or not these 
 features are available in voice over, to utilize these voices. In 
 addition, I noticed that applications have the ability of running in the 
 background now, does this mean and API tie-in for Fleksy?
 
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 Web: http://commtechusa.net
 phone: (888) 351-5289 Ext. 704
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Re: Kindle Books Not Opening or Downloading

[Danny Noonan]

Make sure the app is set on device. Then it's the standard iOS deletion method 
like in mail and messages. Swipe down when on an item and it should say delete. 
Double tap and the item should be gone. If 1 finger swipe down doesn't  say 
delete use the roter until it is on actions and then swiping down should say 
delete. 

Hope this helps. 



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 Hi,
 I tried deleting from app switcher and restarting, with no luck. I tried 
 re-ordering the samples from Safari. This worked for one book, but not 
 others. So I'm going to try and delete some samples and then request them 
 again. NOt sure how to do this though.
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Re: Kindle Books Not Opening or Downloading

[Danny Noonan]

Usual first steps  delete the app from memory in app switcher, restart your 
phone and reopen the app. If no luck with current samples try deleting a 
couple, re send them to your iDevice and if they open and original samples 
don't, rince and replete with the other samples. If none of this works 
uninstall the app and reinstall and try again. 

Sorry for no great solution. Hopefully someone has a proper solution. 



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On 07/06/2013, at 11:19 PM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I've got a whole lot of Kindle book samples. I sent them from the 
 Amazon/Kindle website on Safari on my Mac to my iPhone. I can see all the 
 books on the home screen on the device tab. However, when I tap on a book, 
 nothing happens. The book doesn't open and doesn't start downloading. Well, 
 actually, one of the books downloaded and opened fine. But the others are not 
 doing anything.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 I'm using the first accessible version of the Kindle app on my iPhone 4S 
 running iOS 6.1.3.
 
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Re: calendar alert

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Sounds silly but have you deleted the calender app in app switcher and all 
other apps for that matter and restarted your phone? If all else fails delete 
from me memory and restart iOS device in my opinion. 




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On 06/06/2013, at 2:38 PM, jean parker radiofore...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi All:
 It still isn't working.
 I went to default alert in the calendar settings.  It is set to sound an 
 alert 15 minutes before an event.  So I put two events in my calendar as an 
 experiment but the alert did not go off.  Any other suggestions?
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Re: time machine or super duper

[Danny Noonan]

You want to do a full backup of your internal drive with superdooper and even 
better if you make it bootable. Time machine is a different kind of backup. 




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 Per an accessibility standpoint, Please any input on whether one can use time 
 machine on its own or superduper to back up one's computer.
 I need to take my mac to the apple store tomorrow. I want an accessibile 
 means to backk up its data before I take it in.
 Any help you, as a list could offer would be appreciated.
 
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Re: a program that allows me to create new folders on the iphone and Ipad

[Danny Noonan]

Found it in the middle of 165 listings. It's $5.49 in Australia so is probably 
4.95 us. 

It looks good and when my laptop is fixed ill start playing with it. 

The info to find it is 

https://itunes.apple.com/au/app/filebrowser-access-files-on/id364738545?mt=8

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 I'm sorry. I meant to say File Browser and for me I found it at the top of 
 the list of results. Be sure and check both iPhone or iPad. I don't remember 
 if you have an iPhone or iPad. If iPhone, then search should be easy enough. 
 Again, try File Browser. That is what what I'm using.
 
 On Jun 4, 2013, at 8:05 PM, Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net wrote:
 
 I found over 300 responses to File Manager and none in the first hundred for 
 that price. Do you know developer or have an AppStore address for it?
 
 Thanks. 
 
 
 
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 I like File Manager; it is available in the App store of course and sells 
 for something like 9.95 US. It integrates with Dropbox and maintains a nice 
 file structure on the local device and you can create folders and import 
 and export files to appropriate apps on the device.
 
 On Jun 3, 2013, at 7:03 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Drop box?
 
 On 3 Jun 2013, at 02:46 PM, Scott Berry sb356...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hey everyone,
 
 What is a good app to allow me to have good control over creating and 
 editing folders and other control over tasks like uploading different 
 types of documents to my Iphone.  I do have Pages and Number already for 
 my word processor but I'll also take other ideas on this as well ifthere 
 are other apps that people feel can do better or have better 
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Re: calendar alerts

[Danny Noonan]

Their is an alert sound. If you tap on calender and swipe to alerts it will say 
the sound. Mine says alert, trill for example. 

Obvious but make sure do not disturb is off. 



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 Mark and all:
 Jean
 When I check in the notifications center I find no option for sounds in the 
 calendar settings.  It just has banners and badges.
 
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Re: a program that allows me to create new folders on the iphone and Ipad

[Danny Noonan]

I found over 300 responses to File Manager and none in the first hundred for 
that price. Do you know developer or have an AppStore address for it?

Thanks. 



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On 05/06/2013, at 12:14 PM, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote:

 I like File Manager; it is available in the App store of course and sells for 
 something like 9.95 US. It integrates with Dropbox and maintains a nice file 
 structure on the local device and you can create folders and import and 
 export files to appropriate apps on the device.
 
 On Jun 3, 2013, at 7:03 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Drop box?
 
 On 3 Jun 2013, at 02:46 PM, Scott Berry sb356...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hey everyone,
 
 What is a good app to allow me to have good control over creating and 
 editing folders and other control over tasks like uploading different types 
 of documents to my Iphone.  I do have Pages and Number already for my word 
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Re: Is the reminders app on IOS inaccessible

[Danny Noonan]

Strange. I don't have it on my 4s. I have a show lists button instead. 



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On 31/05/2013, at 1:44 PM, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:

 No, I don't have any reminders at all set up.  I did however figure out, I 
 think, what it is.  It looks like that moves me from completed, active, etc. 
 etc.
 
 Chris.
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 Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 11:39 PM
 Subject: Re: Is the reminders app on IOS inaccessible
 
 
 I don't have that but ill hazard a guess. Do you have lots of reminders? If 
 so a multi page switcher may show as an alternate option to the 3 finger 
 swipe to scroll through screens of reminders.
 
 As I use calendars for most things I only have a few reminders in my lists.
 
 Danny.
 
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 On 31/05/2013, at 11:56 AM, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The thing about reminders that I! didn't quite understand is the area that 
 says page one of 3, or was it 4, something like that.  what the heck is that 
 used for?  It's near the bottom of the screen.
 
 Chris.
 
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 Subject: Re: Is the reminders app on IOS inaccessible
 
 
 It's accessible but you have to feel round the screen for the time and date 
 pickers rather than swiping.
 
 
 
 To save some typing tap means double tap.
 Tap add reminder.
 Type the reminder name.
 Tap edit details which appears to the right of the text field.
 Tap  on a day.
 Now a date will appear right in the middle of the screen. If you use speed 
 dots its directly at the center dot.
 Tap the date. It should be today's date.
 It will now be selected and you now have to feel in the bottom section of 
 the screen where the time and date pickers have  appeared. It's important 
 that you touch the picker section of the screen as swiping will deselect the 
 date option in the middle of the screen and the pickers will go away until 
 you tap the date again.
 You can swipe between day, month, hour, minutes in 5 minute intervals and 
 am/pm but swipe outside the picker section and again, the pickers disappear.
 Tap the repeat button  for a screen with never, daily, every week, 2 weeks, 
 month or year options.
 You can also tap show more to get options to set priority, choose which 
 reminder list the reminder is in and to add text notes. Tap done when your 
 finished and that's that. .
 
 
 
 Hope this helps and holler with any more questions.
 Danny
 
 
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 Hi, I'm trying to create some reminders on my Iphone manually, without 
 using SIRI and it seems really inaccessible. I can't change the day or the 
 time of when I wanted to be riminded by. I'm using the default reminders 
 app inside IOS.It seems a bit odd for this to be inaccessible. Thanks
 
 
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