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Re: HTML question.

2024-05-24 Thread Karen Lewellen

I understand..actually I do not use Linux directly either. No screen
reader that works with my needs.

Still, my hope was thinking of it like a file might help.
Would you mind if I asked a few people?
HTML is such an important foundation for inclusive web creation, and
clearly you are dedicated to become the best professional you can.

On Fri, 24 May 2024, Jessica Moss wrote:

While I completely get designing a site in html, I unfortunately don’t know
anything about using Linux. We weren’t taught that during the time I was in
school, and I literally went straight from using an Apple 2 machine to learning
Windows. Then the main experience I got learning the Mac, actually came from
this list, along with what used to be Blindcooltech’s podcasts.

On May 24, 2024, at 11:16 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote:

Hi Jessica,
speaking personally?
This may be a question of tool, and how you consider the process.
Again speaking personally, I am not sure, at least for me, that the folder
image is the best so to speak.
My own personal website, No I am not blowing my own horn smiles,
www.karenlewellen.com
Was done in html.
I insisted on this so I could, as I often need to, update things on my own.
Pull up a page in a editor and so forth..but that is me.
It may be helpful, if you are interested, to connect with Linux users who also
live with sight loss.
Some of them are more used to this kind of editing with their ears, and are
more likely to have a solid tool to suggest.
Does that resonate?
Karen

On Fri, 24 May 2024, Jessica Moss wrote:

I’m attempting to proceed further in learning HTML, and have been having one of
my coworkers help when he’s had some spare time. However, with him having
completely usable vision, and trying to explain to me how certain portions of
this work, divs and classes being a big thing, that’s where this becomes
interesting, and makes me wonder how often will I use these, and should I just
leave styling type elements such as these to someone who has more knowledge and
can actually see where they need to go.
He’s told me that it’s like putting items into a folder when dealing with html
divs/classes, but that’s as far as I’ve gotten, considering the fact that while
I understand the concept of having a physical folder, where you’d have deviders
separating your homework assignments from your tests and quizzes for example,
how would I style an existing template I’ve already started building in that
same manner, without being able to see it, and know that I’ve done it correctly?

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Re: HTML question.

2024-05-24 Thread Karen Lewellen

My own personal website, No I am not blowing my own horn smiles,
www.karenlewellen.com
Was done in html.
I insisted on this so I could, as I often need to, update things on my
own.

Pull up a page in a editor and so forth..but that is me.
It may be helpful, if you are interested, to connect with Linux users who
also live with sight loss.
Some of them are more used to this kind of editing with their ears, and
are more likely to have a solid tool to suggest.

Does that resonate?
Karen

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Re: Convert PDF to txt on iPhone or iPad?

2024-05-14 Thread Karen Lewellen

Hi Donna,
Speaking personally, rtf or txt will fair better.
That is likely because of the different flavors of word, and the goal of
robobraille to get items to the simplest format.

Hope that resonates,
Karen

On Tue, 14 May 2024, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Thanks Robert and Karen. Robobraille is an interesting suggestion that hadn’t
occurred to me. I own Duxbury, so I’ve never used it before. I just tried a
sample file. It wasn’t problem free, but I chose to convert it to Word. When
I opened it in Pages, Pages inserted text boxes, which made it hard to read.
But I’m wondering if I’ll get better results if I go with Txt or RTF. This
definitely warrants further explanation.

Again, thank you for the suggestion.
Cheers,
Donna

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Donna,
Why not send the files to robobraille?
www.robobraille.org
via an email address,
conv...@robobraille.org
the pdf files can be converted to text in a matter of moments.
You also support a service providing this service in many formats and language
around the world...and its free.

Cheers,
Karen

On Tue, 14 May 2024, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi all,

While I’m in Italy, I’ll be taking language classes. I may have a need to
convert pdfs to text, and I’m hoping to do it on either my phone or my iPad.
Anyone have a recommendation for an app that will do this? I know ABBYY will,
but it seems kind of like overkill.
Cheers,
Donna

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Re: Convert PDF to txt on iPhone or iPad?

2024-05-14 Thread Karen Lewellen

Cheers,
Karen

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Hi all,

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Re: Mac with VoiceOver Help/Discussion Group Meeting this Saturday April 27 at 2:00 PM Eastern (11:00 AM Pacific)

2024-04-27 Thread Karen Lewellen

she wrote me as well..some are simply dialing in, no link required.
The sense she gave me is that all the details, link meeting Id and the
like will be new.

Karen

On Sat, 27 Apr 2024, Brad Snyder wrote:

Yes, apparently there was a problem with the registration URL.
Chancey has been made aware of the issue, and it should be corrected in time
for next months meeting.

- Brad -

On Apr 27, 2024, at 15:44, Ian Robinson wrote:

HI,

Yes, the meeting went ahead as scheduled. I got in using the same link from
last month.

Ian

On 27 Apr 2024, at 19:32, Karen Lewellen wrote:

is this event actually happening?
Chancey sent me the meeting id this morning.
however its 2:30 eastern and no one seems to be there?
Karen

On Fri, 26 Apr 2024, Brad Snyder wrote:

Mac with VoiceOver Help/Discussion Group
Saturdays April 27, May 18, and June 29, 2:00 PM - 4:00 PM Eastern.
This informal group meets monthly to tackle questions about using the Mac with
voiceOver.
This workshop will take place online.

Registration is required at the following link:
https://nypl.zoom.us/meeting/register/tZwpd-qspz8qH9TPI2LGYxFM34_dknY-pxGM

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Re: Mac with VoiceOver Help/Discussion Group Meeting this Saturday April 27 at 2:00 PM Eastern (11:00 AM Pacific)

2024-04-27 Thread Karen Lewellen

When I wrote Chancey she told me she was researching the problem..a few
also had issues.

On Sat, 27 Apr 2024, Ian Robinson wrote:

HI,

Yes, the meeting went ahead as scheduled. I got in using the same link from
last month.

Ian

On 27 Apr 2024, at 19:32, Karen Lewellen wrote:

is this event actually happening?
Chancey sent me the meeting id this morning.
however its 2:30 eastern and no one seems to be there?
Karen

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Registration is required at the following link:
https://nypl.zoom.us/meeting/register/tZwpd-qspz8qH9TPI2LGYxFM34_dknY-pxGM

Chancey S. Fleet
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Re: Mac with VoiceOver Help/Discussion Group Meeting this Saturday April 27 at 2:00 PM Eastern (11:00 AM Pacific)

2024-04-27 Thread Karen Lewellen

is this event actually happening?
Chancey sent me the meeting id this morning.
however its 2:30 eastern and no one seems to be there?
Karen

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Registration is required at the following link:
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Re: Apple Watch rapid battery drain during sleep

2024-04-25 Thread Karen Lewellen

Sorry, I ought to have been more specific. To demonstrate the voice issue 
as that is clearly access related.

Karen



On Thu, 25 Apr 2024, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:


I was Kinda surprised by that too, Brad, and they didn???t say.  The only 
reason I can imagine is that the two issues started at the same time, so it 
does seem like there???s a possibility that they are related.
Best,
Donna


On Apr 25, 2024, at 5:39 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:

Why would they tell you to call Accessibility to discuss the battery issue.
I don???t see how this could have anything to do with accessibility.
This seems like a blow-off move.

- Brad -



On Apr 25, 2024, at 16:52, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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I heard back from Apple.  They are looking into the Samantha issue.  They???ve 
suggested I call accessibility to discuss the battery issue.  I will do that 
when time permits.
Donna


On Apr 25, 2024, at 2:14 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

Has anyone called apple accessibility directly about the problem?
Kare



On Thu, 25 Apr 2024, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:


Mine is using Samantha right now, and I absolutely can???t get it to change 
back, no matter what I do.  That voice really grates on me.  She sounds like 
she has been out drinking and smoking all night and has a bad hangover. Lol
Cheers,
Donna


On Apr 25, 2024, at 1:13 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

I just saw that language switch thing yesterday. I had never seen it before. In 
my case, I have Samantha set, but then it sometimes just switches to Russian, 
which I also have. But I don???t want it except if I???m trying to read 
Russian, which I don???t usually do on the watch.

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 25, 2024, at 9:34 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

???Oh, wow!  That must be really annoying.  It???s bad enough with both voices 
speaking English. I will write to accessibility right now.
Cheers,
Donna


On Apr 25, 2024, at 11:30 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
Yes I have that Samantha thing happening too and I am using Swedish Alva.
It takes time to switch her back to Swedish and stop her from speaking Swedish 
with the Samantha Voice.
So write to the accessibility team and I will give them feedback as I am a beta 
tester.
Bless.
/A


25 apr. 2024 kl. 15:05 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
:

Oh, and one more weird thing.  This one happens during the day, when not in 
sleep mode.  My watch keeps switching back to Samantha.  Currently, I am unable 
to get it back to Siri voice 4, my usual voice.
Thanks,
Donna


On Apr 25, 2024, at 7:47 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:

Hi Gabe,

Thanks for the suggestion.  I???ve tried that, with no change.  In fact, the 
problem is getting worse.  Last night when I went to bed at ten, it was at 
100%.  When I woke up at 3:30 this morning, it was down to 56%.  But it???s 
definitely related to sleep mode.  When I get up, I force power off the watch, 
and when it comes back up with sleep mode off, the battery behaves normally.
Cheers,
Donna


On Apr 24, 2024, at 10:24 PM, Gabe Griffith  wrote:

Hi,

I'd also double tap the side button to bring up the app switcher and close any 
apps that appear like they might be battery drainers. Heck, if your battery is 
draining that fast it might be worth closing all apps and then restarting your 
watch again

Gabe




On Apr 24, 2024, at 7:44???AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

???Did that.  I have been force powering it off every morning since this 
started.  Once I do that, everything is back to normal, but then the next night 
the same thing happens.
Cheers,
Donna


On Apr 24, 2024, at 8:21 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:

Try restarting your watch, and see if that helps.

- Brad -



On Apr 24, 2024, at 07:46, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi all,

For the past three days, I???ve been waking up to find that my Apple Watch 
battery is severely drained.  When I went to bed last night, it was at 100%, 
and when I woke up this morning, it was at 56%.  Before this week, it would 
generally be right around 92% when I woke up.  The other thing that seems 
strange, is that when I went to take it out of sleep mode, there appeared to be 
some kind of count-down timer running.  Anyone have any idea what could be 
going on?
TIA,
Donna

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Re: Apple Watch rapid battery drain during sleep

2024-04-25 Thread Karen Lewellen

personally?  I was thinking of how Donna could not get the voice she 
prefers back.
Its why I made the suggestion right above her amusing description of 
Samantha.




On Thu, 25 Apr 2024, Brad Snyder wrote:


Why would they tell you to call Accessibility to discuss the battery issue.
I don???t see how this could have anything to do with accessibility.
This seems like a blow-off move.

- Brad -



On Apr 25, 2024, at 16:52, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

I heard back from Apple.  They are looking into the Samantha issue.  They???ve 
suggested I call accessibility to discuss the battery issue.  I will do that 
when time permits.
Donna


On Apr 25, 2024, at 2:14 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

Has anyone called apple accessibility directly about the problem?
Kare



On Thu, 25 Apr 2024, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:


Mine is using Samantha right now, and I absolutely can???t get it to change 
back, no matter what I do.  That voice really grates on me.  She sounds like 
she has been out drinking and smoking all night and has a bad hangover. Lol
Cheers,
Donna


On Apr 25, 2024, at 1:13 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

I just saw that language switch thing yesterday. I had never seen it before. In 
my case, I have Samantha set, but then it sometimes just switches to Russian, 
which I also have. But I don???t want it except if I???m trying to read 
Russian, which I don???t usually do on the watch.

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 25, 2024, at 9:34 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

???Oh, wow!  That must be really annoying.  It???s bad enough with both voices 
speaking English. I will write to accessibility right now.
Cheers,
Donna


On Apr 25, 2024, at 11:30 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
Yes I have that Samantha thing happening too and I am using Swedish Alva.
It takes time to switch her back to Swedish and stop her from speaking Swedish 
with the Samantha Voice.
So write to the accessibility team and I will give them feedback as I am a beta 
tester.
Bless.
/A


25 apr. 2024 kl. 15:05 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
:

Oh, and one more weird thing.  This one happens during the day, when not in 
sleep mode.  My watch keeps switching back to Samantha.  Currently, I am unable 
to get it back to Siri voice 4, my usual voice.
Thanks,
Donna


On Apr 25, 2024, at 7:47 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:

Hi Gabe,

Thanks for the suggestion.  I???ve tried that, with no change.  In fact, the 
problem is getting worse.  Last night when I went to bed at ten, it was at 
100%.  When I woke up at 3:30 this morning, it was down to 56%.  But it???s 
definitely related to sleep mode.  When I get up, I force power off the watch, 
and when it comes back up with sleep mode off, the battery behaves normally.
Cheers,
Donna


On Apr 24, 2024, at 10:24 PM, Gabe Griffith  wrote:

Hi,

I'd also double tap the side button to bring up the app switcher and close any 
apps that appear like they might be battery drainers. Heck, if your battery is 
draining that fast it might be worth closing all apps and then restarting your 
watch again

Gabe




On Apr 24, 2024, at 7:44???AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

???Did that.  I have been force powering it off every morning since this 
started.  Once I do that, everything is back to normal, but then the next night 
the same thing happens.
Cheers,
Donna


On Apr 24, 2024, at 8:21 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:

Try restarting your watch, and see if that helps.

- Brad -



On Apr 24, 2024, at 07:46, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi all,

For the past three days, I???ve been waking up to find that my Apple Watch 
battery is severely drained.  When I went to bed last night, it was at 100%, 
and when I woke up this morning, it was at 56%.  Before this week, it would 
generally be right around 92% when I woke up.  The other thing that seems 
strange, is that when I went to take it out of sleep mode, there appeared to be 
some kind of count-down timer running.  Anyone have any idea what could be 
going on?
TIA,
Donna

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Re: Apple Watch rapid battery drain during sleep

2024-04-25 Thread Karen Lewellen

Has anyone called apple accessibility directly about the problem?
Kare

On Thu, 25 Apr 2024, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Mine is using Samantha right now, and I absolutely can???t get it to change
back, no matter what I do. That voice really grates on me. She sounds like
she has been out drinking and smoking all night and has a bad hangover. Lol
Cheers,
Donna

On Apr 25, 2024, at 1:13 PM, Mary Otten wrote:

I just saw that language switch thing yesterday. I had never seen it before. In
my case, I have Samantha set, but then it sometimes just switches to Russian,
which I also have. But I don???t want it except if I???m trying to read
Russian, which I don???t usually do on the watch.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 25, 2024, at 9:34 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
wrote:

???Oh, wow! That must be really annoying. It???s bad enough with both voices
speaking English. I will write to accessibility right now.
Cheers,
Donna

On Apr 25, 2024, at 11:30 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
Yes I have that Samantha thing happening too and I am using Swedish Alva.
It takes time to switch her back to Swedish and stop her from speaking Swedish
with the Samantha Voice.
So write to the accessibility team and I will give them feedback as I am a beta
tester.
Bless.
/A

25 apr. 2024 kl. 15:05 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
:

Oh, and one more weird thing. This one happens during the day, when not in
sleep mode. My watch keeps switching back to Samantha. Currently, I am unable
to get it back to Siri voice 4, my usual voice.
Thanks,
Donna

On Apr 25, 2024, at 7:47 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

Hi Gabe,

Thanks for the suggestion. I???ve tried that, with no change. In fact, the
problem is getting worse. Last night when I went to bed at ten, it was at
100%. When I woke up at 3:30 this morning, it was down to 56%. But it???s
definitely related to sleep mode. When I get up, I force power off the watch,
and when it comes back up with sleep mode off, the battery behaves normally.
Cheers,
Donna

On Apr 24, 2024, at 10:24 PM, Gabe Griffith wrote:

Hi,

I'd also double tap the side button to bring up the app switcher and close any
apps that appear like they might be battery drainers. Heck, if your battery is
draining that fast it might be worth closing all apps and then restarting your
watch again

Gabe

On Apr 24, 2024, at 7:44???AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
wrote:

???Did that. I have been force powering it off every morning since this
started. Once I do that, everything is back to normal, but then the next night
the same thing happens.
Cheers,
Donna

On Apr 24, 2024, at 8:21 AM, Brad Snyder wrote:

Try restarting your watch, and see if that helps.

- Brad -

On Apr 24, 2024, at 07:46, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
wrote:

Hi all,

For the past three days, I???ve been waking up to find that my Apple Watch
battery is severely drained. When I went to bed last night, it was at 100%,
and when I woke up this morning, it was at 56%. Before this week, it would
generally be right around 92% when I woke up. The other thing that seems
strange, is that when I went to take it out of sleep mode, there appeared to be
some kind of count-down timer running. Anyone have any idea what could be
going on?
TIA,
Donna

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Re: More on the HomePod from hell

2024-04-05 Thread Karen Lewellen


hi Mary,
You might be surprised what is available, and inexpensively, to insure 
your stereo equipment can connect to other things.
Part of my professional life is as a radio producer. Often those working 
in  broadcasting need to connect their standard equipment to these new 
toys, so smaller adapters exist that make this easy..and once you buy it, 
it lasts  forever.

I may be easing into off topic territory however.
Still, depending on where you live, finding the toolscan be done.
Kare



On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, Mary Otten wrote:


So how did you get your problem resolved, Donna? I know they finally figured 
out a way to charge iPhones in the store which is a good thing, since that 
caused a big mess. I don’t think they’ve done that with HomePods. So how did 
you get yours done? I still have my pair of old HomePods connected in the front 
room. I love old-fashioned stereo, and the HomePods don’t compare with my big 
fat great stereo speakers. The only problem is, they don’t make equipment that 
connects like that anymore unless you want to spend we big bucks. So, we’re 
stuck with all this wireless crap. This is not progress, but what can you do?
Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 29, 2024, at 7:45 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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Thanks, Karen. It all worked out in the end. Well I respect your choice to 
continue using your stereo, personally I love voice control. I love that I can 
use it to do things and get more stuff done. We all choose the technology that 
is most comfortable for us. Well I recognize that HomePods may not be your 
choice, they were mine. And when we purchased this HomePod mini, we had no 
expectation of the trials that awaited us. I do think apples quality control 
has gone downhill a lot, and I think this is just the latest example of that, 
unfortunately.
Cheers,
Donna
Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 29, 2024, at 6:47 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

Donna,
I am deeply sorry this situation is so frustrating.
I  also respect your personal choices for your personal enjoyment of what the  
Homepods provide for you.
Hopefully others will provide a path not requiring you to reconfigure 
everything from scratch.
Downloading an older edition of the software seems odd indeed.
Karen




On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:


First of all, it appears that getting a full-sized one wouldn’t solve the 
problem.  In the discussions I saw on the internet, both devices were 
mentioned.  Second, when we’re in the kitchen, we’re usually also doing other 
things, so there’s no real need to spend the money for full-sized HomePod.
Donna


On Mar 29, 2024, at 1:47 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:


Ah, an understandable reason.
Thanks for sharing.
Curious why not simply getting a second full sized homepod would not work 
though?
Speaking personally if I ever reach that level of need, that they are not sold  
in pairs automatically will either insure I get them, or skip the process all 
together smiles.
but hey I sill play my music on a stereo.




On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:



We had one full-sized HomePod in the kitchen, which served as our primary hub, 
and another in the family room.  We decided that in the kitchen we could do 
with just a mini, and that would allow us to move the kitchen HomePod to the 
Family room and create a stereo pair.
Donna


On Mar 29, 2024, at 1:23 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

,Donna,
I have a question.
what need motivated your adding this new homepod in the first place?
What in your current set up was no longer working to your  satisfaction leading 
to your needing a new option?
Just curious, especially given  this latest chapter.
Kare



On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:


Hi again all,

So, late last night I finally got my new Mini to download a more current 
software version by connecting it to My Mac and using Finder.  However, for 
reasons I can’t begin to fathom, it downloaded 17.2, instead of 17.4, which is 
what the rest of my Home is running.  I have my HomePods set to update 
automatically, so I figured I’d just set it up, and it would update 
automatically overnight.  But apparently that was too much to hope for.  
Instead, it made a wreck of my home in the Home app.  I have devices that have 
had multiple names, as I have moved them to different rooms.  All those devices 
reverted back to an older name.  And none of my accessories, other than the 
HomePods are responding.  Does anyone have an idea what happened or thoughts on 
a possible fix?  I’d really love to avoid deleting my Home and setting it up 
from scratch.
TIA,
Donna

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Re: More on the HomePod from hell

2024-03-29 Thread Karen Lewellen

YOu are welcome Donna,
I do resonate with your feelings about apple quality control.
These devices are not personally options for me just now, a secondary
disability experience making them unsafe to use.
Still, I have my cozy stereo near my sofa, where music is, for me a
physical experience holding album covers and cd cases rich with memories,
and hours of both songwriting and music making..and you have your voice
control smiles.

Glad there was a solution in the end.
Karen

On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Thanks, Karen. It all worked out in the end. Well I respect your choice to
continue using your stereo, personally I love voice control. I love that I can
use it to do things and get more stuff done. We all choose the technology that
is most comfortable for us. Well I recognize that HomePods may not be your
choice, they were mine. And when we purchased this HomePod mini, we had no
expectation of the trials that awaited us. I do think apples quality control
has gone downhill a lot, and I think this is just the latest example of that,
unfortunately.
Cheers,
Donna
Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 29, 2024, at 6:47 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:

Donna,
I am deeply sorry this situation is so frustrating.
I also respect your personal choices for your personal enjoyment of what the
Homepods provide for you.
Hopefully others will provide a path not requiring you to reconfigure
everything from scratch.
Downloading an older edition of the software seems odd indeed.
Karen

On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

First of all, it appears that getting a full-sized one wouldn’t solve the
problem. In the discussions I saw on the internet, both devices were
mentioned. Second, when we’re in the kitchen, we’re usually also doing other
things, so there’s no real need to spend the money for full-sized HomePod.
Donna

On Mar 29, 2024, at 1:47 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:

Ah, an understandable reason.
Thanks for sharing.
Curious why not simply getting a second full sized homepod would not work
though?
Speaking personally if I ever reach that level of need, that they are not sold
in pairs automatically will either insure I get them, or skip the process all
together smiles.
but hey I sill play my music on a stereo.

On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

We had one full-sized HomePod in the kitchen, which served as our primary hub,
and another in the family room. We decided that in the kitchen we could do
with just a mini, and that would allow us to move the kitchen HomePod to the
Family room and create a stereo pair.
Donna

On Mar 29, 2024, at 1:23 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:

,Donna,
I have a question.
what need motivated your adding this new homepod in the first place?
What in your current set up was no longer working to your satisfaction leading
to your needing a new option?
Just curious, especially given this latest chapter.
Kare

On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi again all,

So, late last night I finally got my new Mini to download a more current
software version by connecting it to My Mac and using Finder. However, for
reasons I can’t begin to fathom, it downloaded 17.2, instead of 17.4, which is
what the rest of my Home is running. I have my HomePods set to update
automatically, so I figured I’d just set it up, and it would update
automatically overnight. But apparently that was too much to hope for.
Instead, it made a wreck of my home in the Home app. I have devices that have
had multiple names, as I have moved them to different rooms. All those devices
reverted back to an older name. And none of my accessories, other than the
HomePods are responding. Does anyone have an idea what happened or thoughts on
a possible fix? I’d really love to avoid deleting my Home and setting it up
from scratch.
TIA,
Donna

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Re: More on the HomePod from hell

2024-03-29 Thread Karen Lewellen

Donna,
I am deeply sorry this situation is so frustrating.
I also respect your personal choices for your personal enjoyment of what
the Homepods provide for you.
Hopefully others will provide a path not requiring you to reconfigure
everything from scratch.

Downloading an older edition of the software seems odd indeed.
Karen

On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

On Mar 29, 2024, at 1:47 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:

On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

On Mar 29, 2024, at 1:23 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:

On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

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Re: More on the HomePod from hell

2024-03-29 Thread Karen Lewellen

Ah, an understandable reason.
Thanks for sharing.
Curious why not simply getting a second full sized homepod would not work
though?
Speaking personally if I ever reach that level of need, that they are not
sold in pairs automatically will either insure I get them, or skip the
process all together smiles.

but hey I sill play my music on a stereo.

On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

On Mar 29, 2024, at 1:23 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:

On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi again all,

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Re: More on the HomePod from hell

2024-03-29 Thread Karen Lewellen

Just curious, especially given this latest chapter.
Kare

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Linkedin?

2024-01-29 Thread Karen Lewellen


Hi folks,
its slightly off topic, unless there is an apple associated accessibility 
contact.
Still, I am wondering if Microsoft accessibility still has a direct phone 
door, and, since Microsoft owns Linkedin as I understand things, one can 
reach a human about access issues there?

Thanks,
Karen

Re: Coming up Saturday: Voiceover for Mac Discussion Group

2024-01-27 Thread Karen Lewellen


Its in Johnathan's post, you must register to attend.



On Sat, 27 Jan 2024, Kliph wrote:


I don’t see the time or join info for this meeting.


On Jan 24, 2024, at 9:31 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

Johnathan
You are a prince, thank you!
Karen



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Re: Fwd: Coming up Saturday: Voiceover for Mac Discussion Group

2024-01-25 Thread Karen Lewellen


Johnathan
You are a prince, thank you!
Karen



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Re: cd player/burner

2024-01-07 Thread Karen Lewellen

Indeed that tends to mean that for whatever reason the CD content is not
being seen.
If you have a clean microfiber cloth, give the disc a gentle rub, even a
fingerprint can keep one from being read correctly.

On Sun, 7 Jan 2024, Tom Rash wrote:

My only suggestion is to make sure that the CD is right side up when inserting
it into the player. I’m sure you’ve taken that into consideration though.
Good luck.

On Jan 6, 2024, at 6:35 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:

I have my cd player hooked up to my new Mac. I got it in 2014 when I got my
first Mac. when I tried to put a cd in it, it wouldn’t take it. the cd kept
coming back out. what does this mean? what do I need. to change?

thanks.
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Re: Bug in Numbers

2023-12-26 Thread Karen Lewellen

Jonathan,
I am sorry to wander through this thread, but I have been meaning to get
permission to write you off list.
I am interested in learning more about the new York Public Library apple
group you referenced in another thread.

May I write you privately?
Thanks,
Karen

On Tue, 26 Dec 2023, Jonathan Cohn wrote:

I believe numbers is not as fluid about moving between the Grid and the
formula editing box. I can't remember if I was able to use VO-J to jump
between them, or if I ended up setting up a VO hotspot. It also might be
worth while trying to turn off cursor tracking while in numbers.

On Mon, Dec 25, 2023 at 7:18???AM Brandon Olivares
wrote:

I???ve been experiencing this bug in Numbers for a while now. Sometimes when
I go into a spreadsheet, I can???t navigate any of the cells. Interacting
with the table just results in it making an error noise any time I try to
go in any direction, as if there???s nothing in the document, but there
clearly is.

Only if I restart Numbers does it work again, but it keeps happening.

Are others experiencing this? I???ve had it for a while now and thought I???d
wait to see if it was fixed, but it???s still happening.

Is there any workaround or something I???m doing wrong?

Thanks,
Brandon

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ot: slightly, amazon.com captcha process.

2023-12-04 Thread Karen Lewellen


Hi all,
Was actually told, by the accessibility team member answering my call..and 
two supervisors as well to.

Find someone to help me.
I am quite serious.
Karen

anyone have an older apple 2v?

2023-11-27 Thread Karen Lewellen


Hi folks,
Have made no secret of the unique layers between me and some of the more 
up-to-date apple items.

this one is no exception.
Anyone hiding an apple TV third generation they might want to sell?  its 
the last model with conventional optical connectors.

With appreciation,
Kare

Re: Concerned about the future Mac accessibility

2023-09-10 Thread Karen Lewellen

Is not it amazing that choices exists so that one can create he 
interaction process  that works best for them?
May have to look into making the vo key cap lock instead.  On some laptops 
there is only one combination on one side.
I type very fast indeed.  Personally it is frustrating being slowed down 
while I try to create just the right hand dance for vo keys and something 
else.
Imagine the beauty here is that everyone brings their individual 
experience to computing, and seemingly Apple has a path allowing inclusion 
for that experience, most of the time at least.
Now, if I could just sit in the same room as a trainer and learn the basics 
so I could use the thing laughs!




On Sun, 10 Sep 2023, Brad Snyder wrote:


If you find Interacting so annoying, you can turn it off in VoiceOver Utility, 
under the Navigation category > Grouping Behavior.
There are 4 options to choose from: Standard, Bookend Groups, Announce groups, 
and Ignore groups.
Also, you can use the Tab key to enter and exit areas that require interaction, 
without using VO + Shift + Up/Down Arrow keys.

Personally, I find using standard grouping with interacting to be a highly 
efficient method of navigating.
It allows for skipping over regions such as Toolbars, and tables when I don???t 
need to interact with these regions.
I have been using a Mac for over 10 years, and this has been one of my favorite 
features of using a Mac with VoiceOver.

- Brad -



On Sep 10, 2023, at 04:57, lenron brown  wrote:

Interacting is one of the most annoying things, look for some using
the vo key along with another key can be much if I have to hold the vo
key and do other stuff. I made my vo key caps lock. Because there is
no way I am using 3 keys buy using option and the command key, then
whatever other key I need to press. Also Safari seems to be fine but I
am not testing the beta. I do however prefer chrome or firefox.

On 9/9/23, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:

There is a toggle command for VO keys but it is not used much and its
functionality has decresed now that the rotar and quicknav keys are
available. The quicknav keys work like JAWS virtual cursor, but are only
toggled manually by pressing the left and right arrow keys at the same time.
 Personally I like using a keyboard with a numpad and turning on numpad
commander then 2, 4, 6, and 8 do the VO  commands up, left, right and down.

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 9, 2023, at 7:56???AM, Tom Rash  wrote:

???I???m still new whe it comes to the Mac.  Is this a toggle command?


On Sep 8, 2023, at 9:40 AM, 'Jason J.G. White' via MacVisionaries
 wrote:

That must be exactly why I don???t encounter the issue. I always use VO
commands when reading text (either via keyboard or the braille display).
So far as I remember, this is what the documentation recommends.

Also, the command to move keyboard cursor to VO cursor is VO-Command-F4,
just to be sure you???re trying the right function. Moving the mouse
pointer there won???t do it.



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Date: Friday, September 8, 2023 at 09:35
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Concerned about the future Mac accessibility

You can avoid this issue by, after navigating to a Heading in an email
message, rather than using arrow keys, use VO navigation to navigate from
that point onward.



- Brad -


On Sep 8, 2023, at 07:50, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries
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???In Apple???s mail app, oftentimes in newslettters, when I jump to a
heading or link using voiceover commands and then attempt to read the
content underneath the heading with arrow keys, I find myself
frustratingly at the beginning of the newsletter again.  Even when I
route mouse to voiceover I still don???t seem to be able to read from a
particular heading onwards using arrow keys.



Andrew




On 8 Sep 2023, at 12:27, 'Jason J.G. White' via MacVisionaries
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I???ve successfully navigated headings, links, etc., in e-mail messages on
the Mac, suing the usual Voiceover commands. So I don???t know what is
causing your problems here.

I agree that such navigation works well under Windows, until Microsoft
Outlook crashes ??? then of course, one loses time restarting it, in some
cases, having to repair the data file corruption, which is the very
annoying aspect.

Mozilla Thunderbird under Linux performs quite well for e-mail reading.



From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries

Date: Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 15:18
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Concerned about the future Mac accessibility

I agree and I use the same tactic: Windows is superior on web navigation
and even email when it comes to newsletters where you can swiftly and
reliably navigate through headings and links and activate them - a
difficult if not impossible task in Apple mail.



Andrew





On 7 Sep 2023, at 18:32, lenron brown  wrote:



I hate web Browsing on the mac. Most other things I am good with. I
use both platforms for

Re: Concerned about the future Mac accessibility

2023-09-08 Thread Karen Lewellen


brad,
accessibility is neither about blindness or limiting choices speaking 
personally.
Arrow key function meets several needs, that likely cannot be matched by 
removing your hands  for the option you suggest.

For example, does it work via voice?
Many times voice driven tools match arrow key manipulation.
And, if a party has been successfully navigating with arrow keys, and that 
stops working, how will they effortlessly learn a solution?
Again speaking personally, the more paths to a door the greater the tool 
is accessible for the widest number of individuals.  All of whom embody 
their disability experience uniquely.

Just my take,
Karen


On Fri, 8 Sep 2023, Brad Snyder wrote:


It's not a big deal.
It's just a key stroke, same as using the arrow keys.

- Brad -

On Sep 8, 2023, at 09:10, lenron brown  wrote:

But that's just it it's extra steps having to use those keys for
everything. It's always been one of my gripes with using the mac. I
always feel like I have to do combos for most things.

On 9/8/23, Brad Snyder  wrote:

You can avoid this issue by, after navigating to a Heading in an email
message, rather than using arrow keys, use VO navigation to navigate from
that point onward.

- Brad -

On Sep 8, 2023, at 07:50, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries
 wrote:

In Apple’s mail app, oftentimes in newslettters, when I jump to a heading
or link using voiceover commands and then attempt to read the content
underneath the heading with arrow keys, I find myself frustratingly at the
beginning of the newsletter again.  Even when I route mouse to voiceover I
still don’t seem to be able to read from a particular heading onwards using
arrow keys.

Andrew


On 8 Sep 2023, at 12:27, 'Jason J.G. White' via MacVisionaries
 wrote:

I’ve successfully navigated headings, links, etc., in e-mail messages on
the Mac, suing the usual Voiceover commands. So I don’t know what is
causing your problems here.
I agree that such navigation works well under Windows, until Microsoft
Outlook crashes – then of course, one loses time restarting it, in some
cases, having to repair the data file corruption, which is the very
annoying aspect.
Mozilla Thunderbird under Linux performs quite well for e-mail reading.


From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries

Date: Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 15:18
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Concerned about the future Mac accessibility

I agree and I use the same tactic: Windows is superior on web navigation
and even email when it comes to newsletters where you can swiftly and
reliably navigate through headings and links and activate them - a
difficult if not impossible task in Apple mail.

Andrew



On 7 Sep 2023, at 18:32, lenron brown  wrote:

I hate web Browsing on the mac. Most other things I am good with. I
use both platforms for different reasons, even having a 2023 MBP 14
with max chip. I still use my windows computers as my daily drivers. I
like my mac for vocr and logic, and a few other things. Some things
can just be slower on a mac  when it comes to page navagation and a
couple other things, I just would rather not deal with it.

On 9/7/23, Mohamed Fayed  wrote:


Hi,

I’ve lately switched from 2016 15” MBP to 2023 M2Max 16””. The gain in
performance is tremendous and you will notice it.

For issues related to “mail is not responding”, it occurs when you make
the
exact keystrokes, but Voiceover continues within a significantly shorter
duration.

For web browsing, Safari nowadays is pretty bad. This is not related to
VO.
You may try Google Chrome or MS Edge instead.

Windows on Apple Silicon is significantly faster. If there is a chance
to
get to Apple Silicon device, and try it yourself, that would be great.

The issue that annoys me the most is VO stops talking. It is on Mac and
iOS.
I hope they fix it soon.

Hope that helps,

Mohamed E. Fayed




On 7 Sep 2023, at 8:01 PM, Dave Carlson 
wrote:

My biggest gripe with Mac OS and VO is web browsing. It’s awful
compared
to Windows with JAWS or NNVDA. It is the main reason I would seriously
consider going back to Windows if/when it’s time to get a new laptop.
I use DuckDuckGo as my browser now to get away from that annoying
“Safari
is Busy” message that cripples my productivity.

So I’m on the fence about switching back to Windows, but if VO on the
Mac
does not improve over time (and I doubt that it will) I might just flip
a
coin on the decision.

Dave Carlson
Woodworker, Musician, Oregonian, Engineer,  Farfar
dgcarlson0...@gmail.com



On Sep 7, 2023, at 9:23 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:

Hi all, it seems like we are having more than a few messages on this
list
about the disappointment in Mac’s VoiceOver performance.

Are quite a few of you thinking of switching back to windows? Or are a
lot
of you overall still happy with the VoiceOver experience?

I think I am mostly curious about this, because I have been talking
about
updating my MacBook Eyre. I guess part of me is beginning to wonder,
should I get a

Re: simple mac or voiceover question?

2023-07-29 Thread Karen Lewellen

no, its an ibook, which should share the nature of the os. 10.5 I think?
I am guessing arrow keys can select the cd drive?

On Sat, 29 Jul 2023, mr.robertcole via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,
Is the CD Drive on the Desktop?
If so, try selecting it and press command plus E.
If not, press command plus shift plus C, then select the CD Drive and press
command plus E.

Is there not a eject button on the CD Drive?
Rob

On Jul 29, 2023, at 6:06 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:

Hi,
is there a keystroke that will open the cd door say from the finder?
Think older editions of the operating system, leopard for example, or snow
leopard.
Have a cd stuck and cannot discover how to open the door.
Thanks,
Karen

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Re: simple mac or voiceover question?

2023-07-29 Thread Karen Lewellen


worth a shot2, as I do have an external mac keyboard.



On Sat, 29 Jul 2023, Lorie McCloud wrote:


I used to have a key on my keyboard that would do it back when I had a Mac 
keyboard for my Mac mini. I think it was F12.


On Jul 29, 2023, at 5:06 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

Hi,
is there a keystroke that will open the  cd door say from the finder?
Think older editions of  the operating system, leopard for example, or snow 
leopard.
Have a cd stuck and cannot discover how to open the door.
Thanks,
Karen




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simple mac or voiceover question?

2023-07-29 Thread Karen Lewellen


Hi,
is there a keystroke that will open the  cd door say from the finder?
Think older editions of  the operating system, leopard for example, or 
snow leopard.

Have a cd stuck and cannot discover how to open the door.
Thanks,
Karen

could a mod write meoff list?

2023-07-20 Thread Karen Lewellen


Seek permission for a post in advance.
Thanks, karen

Re: Chat GPT, Anyone?

2023-07-11 Thread Karen Lewellen

Hi Donna,
I respect your stance, but I invite you to search for articles showcasing
when the tool has been used, songwriting for drake, trying to write a
mash script for Alan alda, the factors around its use in the current
writer's strike.

I imagine the usage is in the hands of the beholder if that makes sense.
Best,
Karen

On Tue, 11 Jul 2023, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Actually, Karen, I have to disagree. I know writers who use it to help them
generate ideas for their fiction. That’s pretty abstract. And those same
writers will tell you that they do often repeat the prompt in order to get a
variety of responses.
Best,
Donna

On Jul 11, 2023, at 9:20 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote:

The program is not created for independent thought.
It is created to piece together the thoughts, information so forth from others.
The same question over and over? perhaps. Abstract? no, fortunately, because
that keeps human touch in place.

On Tue, 11 Jul 2023, Jessica Moss wrote:

Isn’t it? I play around with it from time to time, but where I’ve found it to have
fallen a little short is when it comes to its ability to write code, unless there’s
something I’m missing. I asked it one day after listening to the AppleVis podcast
Thomas Domville did, borrowed his idea to have it create multiple choice questions
about AppleVis, but then asked it to create a sharable template with radio buttons,
which it attempted to do, but instead of radio buttons, it created checkboxes. I
then attempted to test the line of code it created on Codepen.io
<http://codepen.io/>, and unfortunately the site wouldn’t have anything to do
with it.

On Jul 10, 2023, at 11:01 PM, Brandon Olivares wrote:

I use it regularly and it works really well, though it has limits. I use it to
help with writing, sometimes to help with programming, to brainstorm ideas,
etc. It’s definitely insane how far things have come in such a short time.

BTW you don’t necessarily need the app: there is a web interface as well.

On Jul 10, 2023, at 10:39 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

Hello All,

Just so you know, I am posting this to both lists.

So I keep running into all kinds of news articles on Chat GPT, a product
from the Open A I project.

Has anyone downloaded the app from the App Store and, if so, are you finding
it as amazing as some of the news reporters from USA Today and the
Wallstreet Journal?

I went to the website at chat.openai.com to see what I could find. I did
not find much; I'll have to download the app to really check it out.

Oh, the article I read today, in the Apple News app talked about how Chat
GPT planned the writer's vacation itinerary and did a pretty good job of it,
apparently.

I look forward to reading your replies,

Mark

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Re: Chat GPT, Anyone?

2023-07-11 Thread Karen Lewellen

The program is not created for independent thought.
It is created to piece together the thoughts, information so forth from
others.
The same question over and over? perhaps. Abstract? no, fortunately,
because that keeps human touch in place.

On Tue, 11 Jul 2023, Jessica Moss wrote:

Isn???t it? I play around with it from time to time, but where I???ve found it to
have fallen a little short is when it comes to its ability to write code, unless
there???s something I???m missing. I asked it one day after listening to the
AppleVis podcast Thomas Domville did, borrowed his idea to have it create multiple
choice questions about AppleVis, but then asked it to create a sharable template with
radio buttons, which it attempted to do, but instead of radio buttons, it created
checkboxes. I then attempted to test the line of code it created on Codepen.io
, and unfortunately the site wouldn???t have anything to do
with it.

On Jul 10, 2023, at 11:01 PM, Brandon Olivares wrote:

I use it regularly and it works really well, though it has limits. I use it to
help with writing, sometimes to help with programming, to brainstorm ideas,
etc. It???s definitely insane how far things have come in such a short time.

BTW you don???t necessarily need the app: there is a web interface as well.

On Jul 10, 2023, at 10:39 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

Hello All,

Just so you know, I am posting this to both lists.

So I keep running into all kinds of news articles on Chat GPT, a product
from the Open A I project.

Has anyone downloaded the app from the App Store and, if so, are you finding
it as amazing as some of the news reporters from USA Today and the
Wallstreet Journal?

I went to the website at chat.openai.com to see what I could find. I did
not find much; I'll have to download the app to really check it out.

Oh, the article I read today, in the Apple News app talked about how Chat
GPT planned the writer's vacation itinerary and did a pretty good job of it,
apparently.

I look forward to reading your replies,

Mark

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Re: PayPal on Mac safari

2023-04-30 Thread Karen Lewellen

Yes!

Please do this.
Karen

On Sun, 30 Apr 2023, Dave Carlson wrote:

Give them a call. I did when I did not see the ???mail check??? option on the
iPhone version of the app.

1-888-221-1161

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, Woodworker, Farfar, Engineer, Musician
dgcarlson0...@gmail.com

On Apr 30, 2023, at 10:21 AM, Phil Halton wrote:

What the heck is wrong with PayPal using Safari on the Mac? I just sent the
payment. Got all the way to the end, selecting the proper payment source, and
there was no send button anywhere to be found. I had to cancel out of it and
make the payment on my iPhone. At least there there is a send button. Any clue
as to what???s wrong with PayPal? Any known workaround to this problem?

Sent from my IPhone

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Re: PayPal on Mac safari

2023-04-30 Thread Karen Lewellen

Hi there,
Regardless of what solution you may discover, please please please report
moments like this to Paypal.

1-888-221-1161.
Speaking personally, you help those who, although perhaps sharing a label
with you, do not embody the disability experience as you do.
Paypal cannot fix what is not shared, and the platform should work
equally, across tools.

Just my take,
Karen

On Sun, 30 Apr 2023, Phil Halton wrote:

What the heck is wrong with PayPal using Safari on the Mac? I just sent the
payment. Got all the way to the end, selecting the proper payment source, and
there was no send button anywhere to be found. I had to cancel out of it and
make the payment on my iPhone. At least there there is a send button. Any clue
as to what’s wrong with PayPal? Any known workaround to this problem?

Sent from my IPhone

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Re: the old mac os 9

2023-04-27 Thread Karen Lewellen

Just sent.
The file is a plain text one, provided as an attachment.
Sing out if You have a challenge with it.
Kare

On Thu, 27 Apr 2023, mattias jonsson wrote:

yes please

27 apr. 2023 kl. 17:50 skrev Karen Lewellen :

Let me locate my manual and send it off list.
Karen

On Thu, 27 Apr 2023, mattias jonsson wrote:

yes i found a mac os 9 app
it have the old outspoken installed
but how to use outspoken?

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Re: the old mac os 9

2023-04-27 Thread Karen Lewellen


Let me locate my manual and send it off list.
Karen



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yes i found a mac os 9 app
it have the old outspoken installed
but how to use outspoken?

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quick apple 4k tv question?

2023-03-09 Thread Karen Lewellen


Actually 2 of them.
I have never  actually been in the same room as an apple TV before, but it 
*might* be an option provided by my Cable service here.
However, I have a great deal of professional equipment that must be 
connected to my existing television.

anyone know if
1. the apple TV 4k still has RCA like connectors on it?  My thought was 
the last one with optical connectors may have been in the 3 edition, but I 
may be wrong.
2. what variety of voiceover voices are options, is this comparative to 
IOS for example or Macos?

Thanks,
Karen

Re: Mac os

2023-02-19 Thread Karen Lewellen


Herb,
There is, or was a comparative effort here to get  right to repair 
legislation on the books, I do appreciate your intelligently illustrating 
the differences.
speaking personally, tone is largely  in the heart of those seeking a 
tone.  I am not the first member to suggest brad might provide wisdom 
differently, with my not reading posts at the same time as others if that 
resonates.

I do type  slightly chastised though smiles.



On Sun, 19 Feb 2023, Herbie Allen wrote:


A 2011 Mac would be upgradable, but later models around the 2014 forward were 
constructed differently. We have a 2012 Mac that was upgraded to 16 Gigs Ram, 
but there is no way I could upgrade my 2019 Mac. It’s decisions like this on 
Apples part along with many others that have fueled the right to repare 
arguments. However, something else, Lori, had already excepted our answers and 
sounds like had moved on for now. I shouldn’t get involved like this, but I 
feel like your email could be construed as an attack and wanting to start 
something that shouldn’t be started. Yes, by writing this I’m just as guilty I 
admit, but I think it needed to be said.


On Feb 19, 2023, at 17:37, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

brad,
Do you work for apple?
I have an associate here in  Toronto working with the centre for social 
innovation.
They currently run an entire commerce company with a 2011 mac machine..and they 
are not  using voiceover.
If indeed a door to a new machine opens up, that will be marvelous.
However, with all due respect, I would be doubtful that an upgrade is not 
possible when it is for units far older.
The best path forward is the one that lets her make uninformed decision from a 
variety of sources.
as Donna has noted before, you can be a touch heavy handed with the 
condescension.
Perhaps learning the two magic words "speaking personally," might be helpful?
best,
Karen



On Sun, 19 Feb 2023, Bradford Snyder wrote:


I believe Lori has a 2014 Mac mini.  I do not believe the RAM or storage can be 
upgraded on that model.
Getting a new M2 Mac mini would be her best option, and a big leap forward in 
performance for her.

- Brad -



On Feb 18, 2023, at 22:51, Herbie Allen  wrote:

Where it can get tricky is that not all Apple Stores are able to handle Macs. 
The new machine would definitely be your best bet. If you do end up upgrading 
your machine, you will probably have to buy the Ram from Crucial and then 
someone can install it for you. Bestbuy is also an option.


On Feb 18, 2023, at 22:32, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

If you call my-apple, part of what they can do is set up a genus session with  
your local apple store.  Of course you can talk to them apple has a major  
customer service hub in Austin Texas.
Still, if you anticipate a new machine soon, perhaps waiting makes more sense 
in general.  Unless the memory factors are so frustrating they impact  getting 
things done.
In that case improving the value of your current machine for sale or whatever 
would make the memory factor worth considering.



On Sat, 18 Feb 2023, Lorie McCloud wrote:


we have an actual Apple store here in Fort Worth, Tx. I don’t think you can 
just call and talk to somebody though. within the next few months it appears I 
might have the opportunity to get a new Mac mini. if that chance comes up I’m 
not going to waste it that’s for sure.


On Feb 18, 2023, at 8:02 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

Speaking personally?
It depends on where you are in the world, but I would first call 1-800-my apple.
I would speak to support, share our apple id so they can know more details and 
ask for my options.
Then perhaps report that here.
There are often loads of ways to upgrade a mac, or that used to be the case,  
older machines can sometimes have an advantage.
cost may depend on things like warranty, but as an example in Toronto we have a 
store called simply mac that specializes on apple computers, have been here 
since the 1990's.
sometimes they do the upgrades for the experience, or connect you with free 
geeks who do it as well.
Still, speaking personally, I would start with getting answers from apple 
directly, just my thoughts of course.
Karen


On Sat, 18 Feb 2023, Lorie McCloud wrote:


no. I just didn’t think of it. how do I do that?


On Feb 18, 2023, at 6:00 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

Are you in a position to increase the memory?  may even help with Catalina.



On Sat, 18 Feb 2023, Lorie McCloud wrote:


thanks. I appreciate that very much.


On Feb 18, 2023, at 1:46 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:

Yes, my opinion is not to try Big Sur given the 8 GB of Ram.


On Feb 18, 2023, at 13:36, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

ok. tell me if I have the right info.
Processor 2.6 ghz dual-core Intel I5
memory: 8 gb 1600 mhz ddr3


On Feb 17, 2023, at 8:15 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:

How much Ram and Hard Drive Space. Yes, that is in the About my Mac.


On Feb 17, 2023, at 18:32, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

tell me exactly what you’re looking for and where to find it

Re: Mac os

2023-02-19 Thread Karen Lewellen


brad,
I note you ignored the greater focus of your message...which is that Apple 
can   confirm or deny  your stance as they are expert...and your conveying 
this information, speaking personally, lacks grace.




On Sun, 19 Feb 2023, Brad Snyder wrote:


The 2014 Mac mini has RAM and SSD that is soldered to the motherboard.
This model is not upgradable.
Feel free to look it up for yourself.

- Brad -

On Feb 19, 2023, at 17:37, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

brad,
Do you work for apple?
I have an associate here in  Toronto working with the centre for social 
innovation.
They currently run an entire commerce company with a 2011 mac machine..and they 
are not  using voiceover.
If indeed a door to a new machine opens up, that will be marvelous.
However, with all due respect, I would be doubtful that an upgrade is not 
possible when it is for units far older.
The best path forward is the one that lets her make uninformed decision from a 
variety of sources.
as Donna has noted before, you can be a touch heavy handed with the 
condescension.
Perhaps learning the two magic words "speaking personally," might be helpful?
best,
Karen



On Sun, 19 Feb 2023, Bradford Snyder wrote:


I believe Lori has a 2014 Mac mini.  I do not believe the RAM or storage can be 
upgraded on that model.
Getting a new M2 Mac mini would be her best option, and a big leap forward in 
performance for her.

- Brad -



On Feb 18, 2023, at 22:51, Herbie Allen  wrote:

Where it can get tricky is that not all Apple Stores are able to handle Macs. 
The new machine would definitely be your best bet. If you do end up upgrading 
your machine, you will probably have to buy the Ram from Crucial and then 
someone can install it for you. Bestbuy is also an option.


On Feb 18, 2023, at 22:32, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

If you call my-apple, part of what they can do is set up a genus session with  
your local apple store.  Of course you can talk to them apple has a major  
customer service hub in Austin Texas.
Still, if you anticipate a new machine soon, perhaps waiting makes more sense 
in general.  Unless the memory factors are so frustrating they impact  getting 
things done.
In that case improving the value of your current machine for sale or whatever 
would make the memory factor worth considering.



On Sat, 18 Feb 2023, Lorie McCloud wrote:


we have an actual Apple store here in Fort Worth, Tx. I don’t think you can 
just call and talk to somebody though. within the next few months it appears I 
might have the opportunity to get a new Mac mini. if that chance comes up I’m 
not going to waste it that’s for sure.


On Feb 18, 2023, at 8:02 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

Speaking personally?
It depends on where you are in the world, but I would first call 1-800-my apple.
I would speak to support, share our apple id so they can know more details and 
ask for my options.
Then perhaps report that here.
There are often loads of ways to upgrade a mac, or that used to be the case,  
older machines can sometimes have an advantage.
cost may depend on things like warranty, but as an example in Toronto we have a 
store called simply mac that specializes on apple computers, have been here 
since the 1990's.
sometimes they do the upgrades for the experience, or connect you with free 
geeks who do it as well.
Still, speaking personally, I would start with getting answers from apple 
directly, just my thoughts of course.
Karen


On Sat, 18 Feb 2023, Lorie McCloud wrote:


no. I just didn’t think of it. how do I do that?


On Feb 18, 2023, at 6:00 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

Are you in a position to increase the memory?  may even help with Catalina.



On Sat, 18 Feb 2023, Lorie McCloud wrote:


thanks. I appreciate that very much.


On Feb 18, 2023, at 1:46 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:

Yes, my opinion is not to try Big Sur given the 8 GB of Ram.


On Feb 18, 2023, at 13:36, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

ok. tell me if I have the right info.
Processor 2.6 ghz dual-core Intel I5
memory: 8 gb 1600 mhz ddr3


On Feb 17, 2023, at 8:15 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:

How much Ram and Hard Drive Space. Yes, that is in the About my Mac.


On Feb 17, 2023, at 18:32, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

tell me exactly what you’re looking for and where to find it. I assume it might 
be in “about this Mac” but I don’t know which items constitute the specs.


On Feb 17, 2023, at 5:19 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:

What are the specs for that Mac?


On Feb 17, 2023, at 17:00, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

I’m running Catalina on my old Mac Mini. I had to roll back to it. lately I’ve 
been considering going up to Big Sur. I never ran that one so I have no idea 
how my Mac would handle it. Monterey was too much for it. does anybody have 
experience with Big Sur on their old Mac? do you have any suggestions or advice 
for me. maybe I should leave well enough alone. suggestions and advice welcome.

thanks.
Lorie

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Re: Mac os

2023-02-19 Thread Karen Lewellen


brad,
Do you work for apple?
I have an associate here in  Toronto working with the centre for social 
innovation.
They currently run an entire commerce company with a 2011 mac 
machine..and they are not  using voiceover.

If indeed a door to a new machine opens up, that will be marvelous.
However, with all due respect, I would be doubtful that an upgrade is not 
possible when it is for units far older.
The best path forward is the one that lets her make uninformed decision 
from a variety of sources.
as Donna has noted before, you can be a touch heavy handed with the 
condescension.
Perhaps learning the two magic words "speaking personally," might be 
helpful?

best,
Karen



On Sun, 19 Feb 2023, Bradford Snyder wrote:


I believe Lori has a 2014 Mac mini.  I do not believe the RAM or storage can be 
upgraded on that model.
Getting a new M2 Mac mini would be her best option, and a big leap forward in 
performance for her.

- Brad -



On Feb 18, 2023, at 22:51, Herbie Allen  wrote:

Where it can get tricky is that not all Apple Stores are able to handle Macs. 
The new machine would definitely be your best bet. If you do end up upgrading 
your machine, you will probably have to buy the Ram from Crucial and then 
someone can install it for you. Bestbuy is also an option.


On Feb 18, 2023, at 22:32, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

If you call my-apple, part of what they can do is set up a genus session with  
your local apple store.  Of course you can talk to them apple has a major  
customer service hub in Austin Texas.
Still, if you anticipate a new machine soon, perhaps waiting makes more sense 
in general.  Unless the memory factors are so frustrating they impact  getting 
things done.
In that case improving the value of your current machine for sale or whatever 
would make the memory factor worth considering.



On Sat, 18 Feb 2023, Lorie McCloud wrote:


we have an actual Apple store here in Fort Worth, Tx. I don???t think you can 
just call and talk to somebody though. within the next few months it appears I 
might have the opportunity to get a new Mac mini. if that chance comes up I???m 
not going to waste it that???s for sure.


On Feb 18, 2023, at 8:02 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

Speaking personally?
It depends on where you are in the world, but I would first call 1-800-my apple.
I would speak to support, share our apple id so they can know more details and 
ask for my options.
Then perhaps report that here.
There are often loads of ways to upgrade a mac, or that used to be the case,  
older machines can sometimes have an advantage.
cost may depend on things like warranty, but as an example in Toronto we have a 
store called simply mac that specializes on apple computers, have been here 
since the 1990's.
sometimes they do the upgrades for the experience, or connect you with free 
geeks who do it as well.
Still, speaking personally, I would start with getting answers from apple 
directly, just my thoughts of course.
Karen


On Sat, 18 Feb 2023, Lorie McCloud wrote:


no. I just didn???t think of it. how do I do that?


On Feb 18, 2023, at 6:00 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

Are you in a position to increase the memory?  may even help with Catalina.



On Sat, 18 Feb 2023, Lorie McCloud wrote:


thanks. I appreciate that very much.


On Feb 18, 2023, at 1:46 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:

Yes, my opinion is not to try Big Sur given the 8 GB of Ram.


On Feb 18, 2023, at 13:36, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

ok. tell me if I have the right info.
Processor 2.6 ghz dual-core Intel I5
memory: 8 gb 1600 mhz ddr3


On Feb 17, 2023, at 8:15 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:

How much Ram and Hard Drive Space. Yes, that is in the About my Mac.


On Feb 17, 2023, at 18:32, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

tell me exactly what you???re looking for and where to find it. I assume it 
might be in ???about this Mac??? but I don???t know which items constitute the 
specs.


On Feb 17, 2023, at 5:19 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:

What are the specs for that Mac?


On Feb 17, 2023, at 17:00, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

I???m running Catalina on my old Mac Mini. I had to roll back to it. lately 
I???ve been considering going up to Big Sur. I never ran that one so I have no 
idea how my Mac would handle it. Monterey was too much for it. does anybody 
have experience with Big Sur on their old Mac? do you have any suggestions or 
advice for me. maybe I should leave well enough alone. suggestions and advice 
welcome.

thanks.
Lorie

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Re: Mac os

2023-02-18 Thread Karen Lewellen

If you call my-apple, part of what they can do is set up a genus session
with your local apple store. Of course you can talk to them apple has a
major customer service hub in Austin Texas.
Still, if you anticipate a new machine soon, perhaps waiting makes more
sense in general. Unless the memory factors are so frustrating they
impact getting things done.
In that case improving the value of your current machine for sale or
whatever would make the memory factor worth considering.

On Sat, 18 Feb 2023, Lorie McCloud wrote:

we have an actual Apple store here in Fort Worth, Tx. I don’t think you can
just call and talk to somebody though. within the next few months it appears I
might have the opportunity to get a new Mac mini. if that chance comes up I’m
not going to waste it that’s for sure.

On Feb 18, 2023, at 8:02 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:

Speaking personally?
It depends on where you are in the world, but I would first call 1-800-my apple.
I would speak to support, share our apple id so they can know more details and
ask for my options.
Then perhaps report that here.
There are often loads of ways to upgrade a mac, or that used to be the case,
older machines can sometimes have an advantage.
cost may depend on things like warranty, but as an example in Toronto we have a
store called simply mac that specializes on apple computers, have been here
since the 1990's.
sometimes they do the upgrades for the experience, or connect you with free
geeks who do it as well.
Still, speaking personally, I would start with getting answers from apple
directly, just my thoughts of course.
Karen

On Sat, 18 Feb 2023, Lorie McCloud wrote:

no. I just didn’t think of it. how do I do that?

On Feb 18, 2023, at 6:00 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:

Are you in a position to increase the memory? may even help with Catalina.

On Sat, 18 Feb 2023, Lorie McCloud wrote:

thanks. I appreciate that very much.

On Feb 18, 2023, at 1:46 PM, Herbie Allen wrote:

Yes, my opinion is not to try Big Sur given the 8 GB of Ram.

On Feb 18, 2023, at 13:36, Lorie McCloud wrote:

ok. tell me if I have the right info.
Processor 2.6 ghz dual-core Intel I5
memory: 8 gb 1600 mhz ddr3

On Feb 17, 2023, at 8:15 PM, Herbie Allen wrote:

How much Ram and Hard Drive Space. Yes, that is in the About my Mac.

On Feb 17, 2023, at 18:32, Lorie McCloud wrote:

tell me exactly what you’re looking for and where to find it. I assume it might
be in “about this Mac” but I don’t know which items constitute the specs.

On Feb 17, 2023, at 5:19 PM, Herbie Allen wrote:

What are the specs for that Mac?

On Feb 17, 2023, at 17:00, Lorie McCloud wrote:

I’m running Catalina on my old Mac Mini. I had to roll back to it. lately I’ve
been considering going up to Big Sur. I never ran that one so I have no idea
how my Mac would handle it. Monterey was too much for it. does anybody have
experience with Big Sur on their old Mac? do you have any suggestions or advice
for me. maybe I should leave well enough alone. suggestions and advice welcome.

thanks.
Lorie

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Re: Mac os

2023-02-18 Thread Karen Lewellen

Then perhaps report that here.
There are often loads of ways to upgrade a mac, or that used to be the
case, older machines can sometimes have an advantage.
cost may depend on things like warranty, but as an example in Toronto we
have a store called simply mac that specializes on apple computers, have been
here since the 1990's.
sometimes they do the upgrades for the experience, or connect you with
free geeks who do it as well.
Still, speaking personally, I would start with getting answers from apple
directly, just my thoughts of course.