Re: A couple of questions
Rahul, What are you using to get to the languages? are you in settings or are you using the language roter? usually double tap or vo space or up and down arrows together works for choosing the language in the list. In the roter just turn until you here language and then just flick until you find the language you want let it go and that becomes the language you use. HTH, Rachel. On Dec 22, 2011, at 11:29 AM, Rahul Bajaj wrote: Hey Kawal, Thanks for your reply. The thing is that the concept of interacting with things doesn't exist in the case of the iPod Touch. The method that you suggested does work on the Mac, but not on the iPod Touch. Am I doing something incorrectly? And the app which I downloaded for Facebook was in the list of the most recommended apps on applevis.com So, I think that it does work with VoiceOver. Anyway, thanks a lot for your reply. Cheers, Rahul On 22/12/2011, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Hi. I can help with one of the questions re languages. You say you found the language list. Have you ever interacted with lists before? namely, voice over keys and shift down arrow or up arrow. I suggest you interact with the language list, find what you want, stop interacting and do command Q to close the vo utility folder if indeed you do it that way. If you can't find the button which says allow re Face book then the app may be inaccessible with voice over but not sure as I do not use Face book. If so, write to the company concerned and explain about Voice over and see if they can make it accessible or request for a refund of your money. Kawal. Sent from my iPhone On 22 Dec 2011, at 02:02 PM, Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj1...@gmail.com wrote: I would be really glad if someone would be able to respond to my message. On 20/12/2011, Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I recently downloaded an app called Focus for Facebook. So, when I open that app and try to use any of the features, it redirects me to a page which asks me if I want to allow this app to be used with my Facebook account. However, there is no 'allow button' on the screen. There are options to report the app, to go back or to view the terms and conditions of the app, but there's no option to actually allow that app to be used with my Facebook account. I faced the same problem even when I downloaded another app called Facely HD for Facebook. So, what should I do? I have another question. How can I change the language in which VO speaks from U.S. English to Australian or British English? I am able to go to the list of languages successfully, but I don't know how to select the language that I want. I use a wireless keyboard, so how can I select the language that I want? I would be extremely grateful if anyone here would be kind enough to help me. Cheers, Rahul -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: email issues
Dear Nancy, What kind of issues? Maybe I could help if I knew a bit more. I am running mail with lion and with snow and I have different issues with each. Hoping to help. Rachel. On Dec 22, 2011, at 2:27 PM, Badger, Nancy wrote: My work email is on exchange. I know that outlook is not accessible on the mac so I am using mac mail. I routinely have problems with mac mail working with my exchange account. Does anyone know of a better way to work with my exchange account from my work? Thanks Nancy Nancy L. Badger, Ph.D. Director, Counseling and Career Planning Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services U. of TN Chattanooga Phone: 423-425-4438 Fax: 423-425-5527 Email: nancy-bad...@utc.edu NOTE: Be aware that email communication cannot be considered confidential based on the University System’s policies and procedures and the state ofTennessee ’s position that email sent and received in the course of state business is public record. Because of this, it is possible that information divulged in this manner would not legally be considered privileged communication. In addition, receipt and response to email communication cannot be guaranteed. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Num Pad Accessory
I know it is off topic. But, is the 10 words a challenge? Just curious! Rachel. On Dec 18, 2011, at 7:42 AM, David Griffith wrote: Dear Esther As always a very helpful post. I can confirm that after experimentation the numpad accessory that I bought does indeed have the limitations that you describe. There is also a problem on my particular device that there is no insert key or equals key. This means that you cannot use the equals keys to bring up menu bars and you would not be able to use it in Fusion for windows screen readers. I'll ha have to see how it goes.I may end up using one keyboard for serious typing and writing and another for navigating and housekeeping tasks on the Mac. I have spent the serious money on the ergonomic keyboard now and this will I hope be justified as I need to type 100,000 words over the next year. I am sorry I confused you by posting to 2 lists. I posted to the other list first but after a day in which there was no response I tried my luck on here. Regards David Griffith On 17 Dec 2011, at 12:53, Esther wrote: Hi David, I've been meaning to reply to your post, but was getting a bit confused as to whether my reply should be on this list or on the mac-access list, where you also posted this question. I haven't had an opportunity to do extensive testing, but I'll try to summarize a few points that may be relevant to using external num pads. You are correct that when you set up the USB device it will not be recognized, but that you can close the keyboard assistant and just use Numpad Commander. The problem that appears to arise is that some USB number pads do not maintain the ability to use the modified Numpad Commander combinations where you press a key on the number pad along with a modifier key such as the Command key, Option key, or Shift key on your regular keyboard. What I found previously is that when I turned on keyboard help mode with VO+K, and pressed key combinations on the attached external numeric keypad, then exited this mode by pressing the Escape key on my regular laptop keyboard or paired Apple Wireless Keyboard, I lost the ability to execute the modified Numpad Commander key combinations, although the unmodified Numpad Commander key bindings would all still work (and could be re-assigned or customized). I can also use the combinations which use the NumPad 0 modifier. I think the problem is that the keyboard setup assistant works by identifying a few default types of keyboards, and you're prompted to press certain keys to match these identifications. When you press keys on a keyboard that doesn't have the numpad built in, the keyboard definition used for your external numpad doesn't use the correct definitions for the modifier keys. There is an iPhone number pad app that will correctly do the modifier key sequences when your iPhone (or iPod Touch or iPad) is on the same wireless network as your Mac. It's Edovia's Numpad -- Wireless Numeric Keypad app. However, it doesn't really work well as a substitute number pad for Numpad Commander functions because the touch screen interactions are too sensitive now. As of a few versions of iOS ago (maybe iOS 4.2), you are prone to getting repeated key strokes when you use this with Numpad Commander as though you were holding down a key where you here a stuttered repeat. (When I first tested this app out in Fall 2009, I could use this for Numpad Commander functions, although it was a little awkward.) I'm not sure there's a really good solution to this, but if you're satisfied with using Numpad Commander assignments with only the NumPad 0 modifier, you should be OK. You might give feedback to Apple's Accessibility team on this. I'm used to using a Mac laptop without Numpad Commander, so most of these tests were done earlier on as experiments. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Dec 16, 2011, at 04:06, David Griffith wrote: This topic drifted away from the original subject but to bring it back I spotted a USB numeric keypad on amazon for £7 so decided to take a punt on it. I have just plugged it in an although the Mac was very confused by it and said it did not recognise it as a keyboard it nevertheless works perfectly with Voiceover and the Num Pad commander. I just closed keyboard assistant and all was fine. I can now go ahead and purchase a Mac Ergonomic keyboard and hopefully the masses of typing I have to do inn the next 12 months will be a more pleasurable experience. David griffith On 12/12/2011, at 12:49 AM, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote: I have finally found a UK supplier who will provide a high quality ergonomic keyboard for the Mac. It is very expensive compared to Windows versions but I would buy it like a shot because I am fairly desperate to have comfortable typing again. However there is one problem.
Re: Wireless keyboard
Rahul, Just set your triple key home to turn voice over on and off. Go to settings then general then accessibility then triple home will be one of the last choices. click on it and you will have the choice to choose voice over, white on black or something else. Just select vo and you will be ready to go. Once that is set, all you need to do is tap the home key 3 times in a roll, or the scape key 3 times if you are using the keyboard and it will turn on or off. The vo s option just mutes vo and therefore the screen will still be using the vo gestures as far as I know. If someone wants the regular control of the screen you need to turn vo off. HTH, Rachel. On Dec 16, 2011, at 9:54 AM, Rahul Bajaj wrote: But unfortunately it doesn't. On 16/12/2011, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: I wouldn't be surprised if command F5 works. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 8:49 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Wireless keyboard Hi, I think this just mutes voiceover not turn it off. hth Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Dec 16, 2011, at 6:08 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: Hi again Rahul! That link does have a lot of the commands! But the speech on/off is vo+s and screen curtain on/off is vo+shift+s! hth Colin On 16 Dec 2011, at 10:46, Rahul Bajaj wrote: Hi all, Thank you so much for your help. You guys are great! BTW, I have one question. Is there a key combination using which we can turn VoiceOver on or off? I usually do it by following the entire procedure of going to accessibility for turning it on or off. So, is there a way of doing it with a simple keystroke like we do it on the Mac? On 16/12/2011, Rachel Magario maga...@gmail.com wrote: for the rooter I just use the quick nab key on and navigate through the elements of your rooter by using the left plus up key or right and up key. then just use your up and down to navigate the element you chose. and right and left to move through the all the elements of the site. HTH. Rachel. On Dec 15, 2011, at 10:56 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: Hi Rahul! Heres a link to give you a list of commands! http://axslab.com/articles/ios-voiceover-gestures-and-keyboard-comm ands.php On 15 Dec 2011, at 16:02, Rahul Bajaj wrote: Hey Ricardo, Thanks for your message. BTW, how can I use the rotor for using Safari? On 15/12/2011, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, basic navigation is exactly the same as on the Mac. You can also use quick nav (just like on the Mac) by pressing the left and right arrow keys to toggle this mode on/off. For Safari, I guess using the rotor is the best way to go. In my opinion, if your a Mac user, there really isn't much one needs to know. hth Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Dec 15, 2011, at 7:43 AM, Rahul Bajaj wrote: Hi all, I've recently purchased an Apple wireless keyboard for my iPod Touch. So, I would be extremely grateful if any of you would be able to share a few tips that would help me in using the keyboard. Which key combinations do you find most useful? How can I use Safari with the help of my keyboard? Your help would be really appreciated. Cheers, Rahul -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
braille connect 40 inputing text on the mac or Ipad
Hello everyone, anyone using braille connect40? I am having trouble inputting text with it. Every time I write something it enters a bunch of gibberish instead of what I am typing. Anyone has been successful with entering text? Thank you and my apologies if you got double emails. Rachel. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Wireless keyboard
for the rooter I just use the quick nab key on and navigate through the elements of your rooter by using the left plus up key or right and up key. then just use your up and down to navigate the element you chose. and right and left to move through the all the elements of the site. HTH. Rachel. On Dec 15, 2011, at 10:56 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: Hi Rahul! Heres a link to give you a list of commands! http://axslab.com/articles/ios-voiceover-gestures-and-keyboard-commands.php On 15 Dec 2011, at 16:02, Rahul Bajaj wrote: Hey Ricardo, Thanks for your message. BTW, how can I use the rotor for using Safari? On 15/12/2011, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, basic navigation is exactly the same as on the Mac. You can also use quick nav (just like on the Mac) by pressing the left and right arrow keys to toggle this mode on/off. For Safari, I guess using the rotor is the best way to go. In my opinion, if your a Mac user, there really isn't much one needs to know. hth Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Dec 15, 2011, at 7:43 AM, Rahul Bajaj wrote: Hi all, I've recently purchased an Apple wireless keyboard for my iPod Touch. So, I would be extremely grateful if any of you would be able to share a few tips that would help me in using the keyboard. Which key combinations do you find most useful? How can I use Safari with the help of my keyboard? Your help would be really appreciated. Cheers, Rahul -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: braille connect 40 inputing text on the mac or Ipad
Let me check. I was just trying to enter words and I did not pay attention to that. RM Sent from my iPhone On Dec 15, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Alex Hall wrote: What exactly does it enter, and does the nonsensical text change depending on the braille character you type? What happens, for instance, with an a (dot 1)? What about a b (1-2)? On 12/15/11, Rachel Magario maga...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, anyone using braille connect40? I am having trouble inputting text with it. Every time I write something it enters a bunch of gibberish instead of what I am typing. Anyone has been successful with entering text? Thank you and my apologies if you got double emails. Rachel. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from GMail website) mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Making calls on Skype using the I phone App.
yeah, that happened to me too, really bad since I need to make calls even when I am in the road through Skype. is there a way to down grade the version? RM Sent from my iPhone On Dec 10, 2011, at 6:01 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hi. I think the accessability broke when Skype got sold to Microsoft as it was fine when it remained with Google but not sure. I also thought it was also broken on the Mac but I discovered to my relief that it was not broken. We need to write to the maker of the Skype App for the I phone and tell them to fix it for those of using Voice Over. If anyone knows who to contact, please let me know and I can write although I am not a developer or programer for Voice Over. Sent from my iPhone On 10 Dec 2011, at 11:40 PM, Chantelle Griffiths chantelle.griffi...@me.com wrote: Hi Kawal, I use this feature quite a lot as I regularly make calls to landlines and mobiles in other countries, but the dial pad seems to be inaccessible with the latest version of Skype for the iPhone. When they first redesigned the interface a few months ago, the dial pad feature was still accessible, but after the latest update it doesn't appear to work at all with VoiceOver on the iPhone. I haven't reported it yet as I've only discovered this in the last couple of days and I'm not sure which update was the culprit. Needless to say I'm now using the Mac with Skype to make all outgoing landline/mobile calls. Sorry I didn't have better news for you - hopefully this will be fixed in the next update. Cheers, Chantelle Griffiths On 11/12/2011, at 10:11 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Kawal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Clearing my question
francisco, On the fly you can use command and vo keys together with right and left arrows to change voice language, volume, rate and all that, but that is for the default voice. For each specific voice in I am not sure of a short cut, only by going to vo utilities. Maybe someone else might know more. HTH, Rachel. On Nov 29, 2011, at 8:37 PM, Francisco Salvador Crespo wrote: Hi, My question is: what shortcut can i use to change voice attributes for content, status or the default voice, can you understand me now? Thanks a lot, Francisco -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Little Mac Victories
Congrats Traci! Just keep on keeping on, someday you will not need to open your windows ever again unless if it is to use a software that does not have an equivalent on the mac. I have not open mine in a whole year! I only use it sometimes to use a software that does not exist for the mac yet, but then that is true for me and all my classmates, and everyone waits for the day it is available in the mac! Cheers, Rachel. On Nov 29, 2011, at 8:17 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: We told you so! Nice job. Keep fighting the urge to use Windows. On Nov 29, 2011, at 5:46 PM, Traci wrote: Hope y'all don't mind me sharing such an email… I was on a music site I like to buy from, from time to time. I went there on my Mac and hesitated, thinking I should wait to hop onto my windows. *Grin,* I decided to give it a whirl on my Mac. Looky there! There was a bit of struggle navigating the website, but for the most part it was a more pleasant experience than on my windows machine. I was tickled to search for a track, log in, and purchase said track. The song is now nicely inside iTunes, inside a playlist. :) Loving it! A side note here: ever since I reformatted my iPod Nano to Mac, syncing has been lightning faster. It's a good Mac Day! Traci Sent by Macbook Air Mail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Avout Voice Settings on Mac
Hey Francisco, there is several possibilities, it depends in your setting you have now. If you want to send me an email in spanish off list, I might be able to answer your question better. Rachel. On Nov 29, 2011, at 6:57 PM, Francisco Salvador Crespo wrote: Dear friends, Today i have a question for you: How to change the voice parameters that VO uses when it's reading a text? for example, my first language is spanish, i want to change de language of the speech. I press VO + command + the arrow keys and i get change it but only it changes with the buttons and the commands but not in the reading How can i do that? Thanks a lot and i with your answer -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Coice Over acting Odd
Ioana Gandrabur igandra...@gmail.com Nov 29 08:52PM -0500 Hi all, I would love to create a script or what ever that I can call up to perform a series of terminal commands. I had a look at the automator and found a record option to type in all the steps. I performed the actions but when I tried to run the action got an error. I suspect that the key sequence goes to fast since it is saying that terminal is not running when it was expected to. Any ideas how to do this or where to look for prewritten scripts I can modify? Is the script editor a better option than automator? I have no formal scripting experience but have read and written jaws scripts using their manual but really nothing fancy. Thanks for any suggestions. Ioana Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com Nov 30 10:03AM -0500 You could just do the script in the shell as well and skip automater. Just put each command line by line in a text file and then modify the text file to be executable with chmod a+x after that you can just run that text file and it will execute all the commands inside as though you had typed them. I often use this for repetitive tasks and just name the file g for Go. One tricky bit is the shell will look in certain places (directory paths) for files to run and often times this is not your present directory. So unless I add the present directory (usually denoted as a dot or period) to my path I have to specify it when doing my g command: ./g If you want I can give you the commands to add . to your path and avoid the ./ nonsense. CB On 11/29/11 8:52 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote: Burning Itunes purchases to CD? Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com Nov 29 08:13PM -0600 Hi: I don't think you need to backup your iTunes purchases anymore because you can just redownload them. On Nov 29, 2011, at 2:15 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com Nov 30 09:59AM -0500 True, but there is still something about having it permanently on the shelf. Not that Apple is going away any time soon but it certainly has happened with other online music services. For a large library, re-downloading can also take a while. Of course everybody now days has local backups with Time Machine, right? CB On 11/29/11 9:13 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: Voice Over acting Odd Becky Knaub becnc...@embarqmail.com Nov 29 08:44PM -0500 Hi all, VO is acting really odd on my MBP today. It has stopped talking all the sudden three different times. I had to restart it and then it was fine. Anyone got any suggestions? Also does anyone know why Safari often keeps saying busy? Becky and C Rachel Magario maga...@gmail.com Nov 29 07:54PM -0600 I can think of 3 things. 1. check if you running low in your hard drive space. If I get less than 50 Gb of hard drive my VO gets slow because I use loads of applications running at once. 2. turn your activity monitor on and ask somebody to check who is taking the most of your ram when vo gets quiet. 3. this must be really far off, but once I had so many attachments that when I turned my mail on my vo got really slow. I had to clean like 20 gb of attachments on my mail, but you are probably not data horder like me. But just in case. HTH, Rachel On Nov 29, 2011, at 7:44 PM, Becky Knaub wrote: Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net Nov 30 08:35AM -0600 Hi y'all. My computer was being a really naughty computer yesterday. I updated it late yesterday afternoon, and I sure hope Apple has now fixed it. My speech froze; I turned speech off and back on, but it wasn't always fine. Sometimes it killed the speech altogether and kept running the braille display. I know this is going to sound weird, but it seemed to me that it behaved better when I changed voices from Alex to Samantha. I decided I'd rather put up with the changes in pitch occasionally than have to restart all the time. I also noticed that sometimes quitting TextEdit worked to restore things. Regards, Gigi, who is hoping my Mbp behaves better today On Nov 29, 2011, at 7:44 PM, Becky Knaub wrote: Clearing my question Francisco Salvador Crespo crespofranciscosalva...@gmail.com Nov 29 11:37PM -0300 Hi, My question is: what shortcut can i use to change voice attributes for content, status or the default voice, can you understand me now? Thanks a lot, Francisco Google Chrome tutorial was off topic Barry Abbott bpabbo...@gmail.com Nov 29 10:24PM -0400 Hello Hank. If you have Google Chrome installed and have added the Google Chrome speech extension from the google web store. Press the Google Chrome key (control+option)+h which puts you in chrome help. One of the links there is the interactive tutorial. Barry On 2011-11-27, at 1:16 PM, Hank Smith wrote: safari refuses to launch. Jessica stevies...@gmail.com
Re: siri
Thank you everyone! I was thinking that maybe something was wrong with mine, since mine does not work 99% of the time, and my sister who does not even need siri, hers work most of the time, even when mine does not work. So I was starting to think something was not right with mine. Who is responsible for siri's server, apple or the cell phone provider? Rachel. On Nov 29, 2011, at 12:50 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote: Hi, that hapens from time to time. Yesterday for example Siris servers were off. That's why there was a gap for several hours. All the best Jürgen Am 29.11.2011 um 03:13 schrieb Kevin Shaw: Hi Rachel, SIRI is still in beta mode and there are service outages from time to time. My phone in Canada goes through the same thing every so often. the best thing to do is wait a bit for the service to get less congested and try again. At least, this is the approach I take. Kevin On 2011-11-28, at 4:47 PM, Rachel Magario wrote: Hi everyone, anyone having issues with siri? My often say something is wrong and she cannot do something at the moment and I should try again later, or she does not find people on my contacts I know are there and she is getting the name right. Any ideas? Could it be a software or hardware issue? Thanks for any info. Rachel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Voice Over acting Odd
I can think of 3 things. 1. check if you running low in your hard drive space. If I get less than 50 Gb of hard drive my VO gets slow because I use loads of applications running at once. 2. turn your activity monitor on and ask somebody to check who is taking the most of your ram when vo gets quiet. 3. this must be really far off, but once I had so many attachments that when I turned my mail on my vo got really slow. I had to clean like 20 gb of attachments on my mail, but you are probably not data horder like me. But just in case. HTH, Rachel On Nov 29, 2011, at 7:44 PM, Becky Knaub wrote: Hi all, VO is acting really odd on my MBP today. It has stopped talking all the sudden three different times. I had to restart it and then it was fine. Anyone got any suggestions? Also does anyone know why Safari often keeps saying busy? Becky and C On Nov 29, 2011, at 7:29 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: Today's Topic Summary Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics YoruFukurou and lists. [3 Updates] solved safari extensions question posted previously [1 Update] Little Mac Victories [1 Update] making sure safari extension are installed? [1 Update] interesting bug in voiceover with numbers and apostrophes [5 Updates] Looking for a monitor to connect to my mac mini [1 Update] Growl Notifications readout [4 Updates] Sorry but I gotta ask again | VMWare Key Mapping [1 Update] Burning Itunes purchases to CD? [6 Updates] iphone4s and triple home [1 Update] Questions about sound check [1 Update] YoruFukurou and lists. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Nov 29 05:31PM -0500 Hi, I have a feeling I'm missing something really obvious but, how do you view your lists in YoruFukurou? Thanks. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com Nov 29 06:01PM -0500 When you say list, what are you refering to? Kev On Nov 29, 2011, at 5:31 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Nov 29 07:29PM -0500 You know, lists of people you follow but keep separate from your main timeline? For example, one might creat a list for sports and just add the athletes they care to follow on twitter? Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Nov 29, 2011, at 6:01 PM, Kevin Mattingly wrote: solved safari extensions question posted previously Ioana Gandrabur igandra...@gmail.com Nov 29 06:53PM -0500 Hi all, Found extensions under preferences so problem solved. Thanks! Ioana Little Mac Victories Traci our4p...@gmail.com Nov 29 03:46PM -0800 Hope y'all don't mind me sharing such an email… I was on a music site I like to buy from, from time to time. I went there on my Mac and hesitated, thinking I should wait to hop onto my windows. *Grin,* I decided to give it a whirl on my Mac. Looky there! There was a bit of struggle navigating the website, but for the most part it was a more pleasant experience than on my windows machine. I was tickled to search for a track, log in, and purchase said track. The song is now nicely inside iTunes, inside a playlist. :) Loving it! A side note here: ever since I reformatted my iPod Nano to Mac, syncing has been lightning faster. It's a good Mac Day! Traci Sent by Macbook Air Mail making sure safari extension are installed? Ioana Gandrabur igandra...@gmail.com Nov 29 06:41PM -0500 Hi all, I downloaded the youtube 5 safari extension talked about on the list and pressed open on the file. Got some dialog about asking if I want to install this extension but I don't know if it was successful. Is there a way to see the list of installed extensions? Thanks, Ioana interesting bug in voiceover with numbers and apostrophes Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com Nov 29 10:52PM +0100 Dear listers, Before I start bugging Apple with what I think is a bug, I would like to ask you listers about the following. I found the bug while working in Amadeus pro. In this sound editor, for some reason, you have to enter time in a strange way. Let's say I have a file open that is 30 minutes long, but I would like to jump right to 10 minutes, 3 seconds and half a second more. So 10 minutes, 3 seconds and 500 milliseconds. In Amadeus pro, I have to enter this, using apostrophes as time separators, and 2 apostrophes to separate the seconds from the milliseconds. Does this sound weird? I don't know why amadeus wants me to use 2 apostrophes in a row, even though that works fine if you obey, although this is not important for this voiceover bug, but here I found something strange happen with voiceover. Here's the test. For ten minutes 3 seconds and 500 milliseconds, here's what I type in inside amadeus pro. I'll type it literally, so let's see what your voiceover
turning on and off vo
Hi everybody I just id an up date for my lion on the mac air, and now If I do command f5 it starts the vo getting started. then I have to dismiss it and it is a bit annoying. I tried function command f5 and the same things happens. Anyone with the same problem? Any ideas of how to fix it? Thanks, Rachel. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
siri
Hi everyone, anyone having issues with siri? My often say something is wrong and she cannot do something at the moment and I should try again later, or she does not find people on my contacts I know are there and she is getting the name right. Any ideas? Could it be a software or hardware issue? Thanks for any info. Rachel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Netflicks issue: changing order in queue
are you interacting with the table? RM On Nov 27, 2011, at 4:56 PM, Christine Grassman wrote: Good day/night all. I am hoping someone can assist with a frustrating Netflicks issue. It used to be a siple matter of hitting delete and inputting the number where you want to place the movie. However, although hitting queue move will take whatever movie I am vocusing on to number one in the queue, whenever I interact with the movie number edit box, I get tossed out of Netflicks, or nothing at all happens. Is there I am doing wrong, or if not, is there a workaround to rearrange my queue without having to remove something and then add it again? Thanks in advance. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
saving attachments in lion mail
Hello everyone, I am using classic view on lion mail and I am not being able to just move to save, where I could choose save all or choose a specific file to save and the location for it. I can do a vo shift m and that gives me an option to safe attachments, but still it does not let me save all when I have more than one file. Any other ways to get to save all? Thanks, Rachel. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: saving attachments in lion mail
Thanks to you both! Sent from my iPhone On Nov 22, 2011, at 7:28 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I might be wrong about this but, I believe selecting save attachments in the file menu will do the same. hth Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Nov 22, 2011, at 7:41 AM, Gavin wrote: Hi Rachel, If you interact with the message content table, you should find a message headers group. Interact with that, then find the Save popupbutton. Press it and you'll get a menu from which you'll be able to select Save All. Hope this helps. REgards, Gavin Phone: +27 (0) 83 713-6191 Secondary Phone: +27 (0) 79 157-2466 Fax: +27 (0) 86 617-5792 Email: g.batw...@gmail.com Mobile Email/MSN: customtra...@live.co.za Skype: batworx Mobile Skype: batworx.iPhone Facebook: http://facebook.com/batworx Twitter: http://twitter.com/batworx On 22 Nov 2011, at 2:05 PM, Rachel Magario wrote: Hello everyone, I am using classic view on lion mail and I am not being able to just move to save, where I could choose save all or choose a specific file to save and the location for it. I can do a vo shift m and that gives me an option to safe attachments, but still it does not let me save all when I have more than one file. Any other ways to get to save all? Thanks, Rachel. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Moving a folder
Scott I was told command option x and command option v, but it never worked for me. Let me know if it works for you. Rachel. On Nov 21, 2011, at 5:25 PM, Scott Rumery wrote: Hello I am trying to move a folder from my music folder into a folder on an sd card, butI can't seem to locate the command. Does anyone know what the command is in Lion to move a file or folder. Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Moving a folder
Awesome! Thanks Tim, it worked. RM Sent from my iPhone On Nov 21, 2011, at 6:38 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: Hi, cmd-c to Copy the item then cmd-option-v to move it to the new location. Just use cmd-v if you wish the original to remain as well. Later... On 2011-11-21, at 5:31 PM, Rachel Magario wrote: Scott I was told command option x and command option v, but it never worked for me. Let me know if it works for you. Rachel. On Nov 21, 2011, at 5:25 PM, Scott Rumery wrote: Hello I am trying to move a folder from my music folder into a folder on an sd card, butI can't seem to locate the command. Does anyone know what the command is in Lion to move a file or folder. Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: more e-mail issues.
Also when using more than one pop is important to have the recent: before the username. On Nov 17, 2011, at 1:24 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: Two possible issues to resolve here. 1. On the Gmail site, pop has to be enabled. Go into your account settings on the website and be sure that it is. 2. Do you have any other device that is downloading your email from that account? If so, it may be set not to leave copies on the server. You could either not have the email client running on it, or double-check that it is set to leave copies of messages on the server. HTH, Teresa The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve.--Pete Graham On Nov 17, 2011, at 8:52 AM, Jessica wrote: Well, I think I got it set up, because I finally got to the continue, button, and selected the pop3 option, but now that it's configured, it won't download my mail, and I've changed the ports to both ports recommended on the page I found, and still no luck. - Original Message - From: Missy Hoppe To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 1:50 PM Subject: RE: more e-mail issues. you need to hold it down, not press it. It's hard to explain, but after you've held it down for a second or two, create should change to continue. I wish there was an easier way to explain it. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 7:47 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: more e-mail issues. Ok, I've pressed Option I don't know how many times when it came to the create, button, and it never changes; it just sits there. Am I doing something wrong, or did I miss something? - Original Message - From: Missy Hoppe To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 10:13 AM Subject: RE: more e-mail issues. ah! I think I can help you with this. The way you have to do it is sneaky. On the first screen, instead of just selecting create, you need to hold down the option key; the button will change to continue instead, and that's when you press it. Then, you'll need to do that through every subsequent screen. I read the pop instructions on the gmail site directly, and that's where they explain it. I finally got gmail to work as a pop account, but without that crucial step of holding down the option key between screens, you'll never get it to work. Good luck! From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 4:11 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: more e-mail issues. not sure if anyone can help here, but I've tried setting up and re-setting up my gmail acount, and even setting up a new acount for the um-teenth time, and can't find the option to select pop3-imap to use as my server of choice, even after doing multiple google searches that claim there's supposed to be an option to do this. It just automaticly wants to configure these acounts for me, and I can't figure out what to do here and am really frustrated here. Any advice someone could give me here would really be appreciated. Are you looking for a free home based business that will also pay you a good income? Most likely, the answer is yes, so if that is the case then come check out Tmi wireless! We're an internet sales and marketing company that sells a variety of items including cel phones and plans with carriers you already know, and you're payed a comission from every sale you make! Check out http://www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/164753 and learn how to make money doing something you already do daily! to learn more, visit: http://www.tmiwireless.com/affiliate/?aid=43270 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
Re: more e-mail issues.
Are you using the recent; before your user name? If you are not, then the messages downloaded in your in pop account X will not down load in pop Account Y. HTH. Rachel. Nov 17, 2011, at 6:34 PM, Jessica wrote: Other than the macbook pro, I've been using my pc as well as my cel phone which work perfectly, so don't know what the problem is. I have pop enabled on the gmail side, and have the option unchecked to only use it's server, so don't know what to do here. - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 11:24 AM Subject: Re: more e-mail issues. Two possible issues to resolve here. 1. On the Gmail site, pop has to be enabled. Go into your account settings on the website and be sure that it is. 2. Do you have any other device that is downloading your email from that account? If so, it may be set not to leave copies on the server. You could either not have the email client running on it, or double-check that it is set to leave copies of messages on the server. HTH, Teresa The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve.--Pete Graham On Nov 17, 2011, at 8:52 AM, Jessica wrote: Well, I think I got it set up, because I finally got to the continue, button, and selected the pop3 option, but now that it's configured, it won't download my mail, and I've changed the ports to both ports recommended on the page I found, and still no luck. - Original Message - From: Missy Hoppe To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 1:50 PM Subject: RE: more e-mail issues. you need to hold it down, not press it. It's hard to explain, but after you've held it down for a second or two, create should change to continue. I wish there was an easier way to explain it. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 7:47 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: more e-mail issues. Ok, I've pressed Option I don't know how many times when it came to the create, button, and it never changes; it just sits there. Am I doing something wrong, or did I miss something? - Original Message - From: Missy Hoppe To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 10:13 AM Subject: RE: more e-mail issues. ah! I think I can help you with this. The way you have to do it is sneaky. On the first screen, instead of just selecting create, you need to hold down the option key; the button will change to continue instead, and that's when you press it. Then, you'll need to do that through every subsequent screen. I read the pop instructions on the gmail site directly, and that's where they explain it. I finally got gmail to work as a pop account, but without that crucial step of holding down the option key between screens, you'll never get it to work. Good luck! From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 4:11 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: more e-mail issues. not sure if anyone can help here, but I've tried setting up and re-setting up my gmail acount, and even setting up a new acount for the um-teenth time, and can't find the option to select pop3-imap to use as my server of choice, even after doing multiple google searches that claim there's supposed to be an option to do this. It just automaticly wants to configure these acounts for me, and I can't figure out what to do here and am really frustrated here. Any advice someone could give me here would really be appreciated. Are you looking for a free home based business that will also pay you a good income? Most likely, the answer is yes, so if that is the case then come check out Tmi wireless! We're an internet sales and marketing company that sells a variety of items including cel phones and plans with carriers you already know, and you're payed a comission from every sale you make! Check out http://www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/164753 and learn how to make money doing something you already do daily! to learn more, visit: http://www.tmiwireless.com/affiliate/?aid=43270 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more
Sprint iPhone and siri
Hi everyone, Anyone using sprint iPhone? Is Siri crashing for anyone with any carrier? Also, while in a call is your screen going quiet that you cannot find the end call button? All of the above is happening to me and I never saw this happening in an iphone before, I want to rule out that it is not a sprint iphone or that it is not a hardware issue perhaps. Thanks for any help. Rachel. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: A question.
I just use vo and the letter o, that usually open any file from the spotlight for me. HTH RM On Nov 15, 2011, at 11:54 PM, Rahul Bajaj wrote: Hey Chad, Thanks a lot for replying. I searched in Spotlight for the file that I wanted to open. When I found that file, I pressed VO shift M, but nothing happened. I tried it many times, but there was no result. Am I doing something incorrectly? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How do I get to mail from the doc quickly
Janny, I just created a shortcut to open mail for me in the voice over utilities under key board commanders. I chose the right option key to be my commander and I just do option m and that opens my mail, but you can choose whatever key you want. I thought this way it is super fast and I do only one short cut key instead of going to doc or to spot light search, although those are valid ways that I use for other applications I don't use as often as mail and safari. HTH, Rachel. On Nov 12, 2011, at 8:32 AM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: Thank you. Hope you have a great weekend. Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Nov 11, 2011, at 4:34 PM, Bill Holton wrote: Easiest way for me is to just press command space, type mail and press enter. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 3:41 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: How do I get to mail from the doc quickly Hi Jennifer, After you typed an M, if you wait a few seconds and type an A, you'll land on an app starting with the letter A. This is why you need to type successive letters quickly until you hear what you want to activate. Les On Nov 11, 2011, at 1:18 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: I try that and it goes to mission control and then something else that starts with an A. Am I doing something wrong? Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Nov 11, 2011, at 11:03 AM, Hai Nguyen Ly wrote: Jennifer, Just start typing in mail when you are in the dock and press enter when you hear VoiceOver say Mail. On Nov 11, 2011, at 11:52 AM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: When I go to the doc from lion I press M for mail and get mission control (Whatever that is), and then press A hoping it will go to mail. That doesn't work. How can I get to mail quicker than just arrowing to it. Thanks for your help. Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Nov 9, 2011, at 4:04 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: Karon, I have found that most PDF files are not readable using voiceover in OS X. this doesn't mean all of them are inaccessible, but it appears that a vast majority are imported graphic files in a container. as for captchas, I find them nearly impossible to solve, and some sites that have audio captchas, the audio will not play under safari and some others are severely distorted. couple this with the fact that mozilla firefox isn't accessible using voiceover, that certain captcha solving plugins are also inaccessible (and no such plugins are available for safari that I know of). since I am not a windows user, nor do I wish to spend large sums of money to do so, I am not inclined to use microsoft based products. This means that I am also limited in how I do some things on the net (especially where visually based security is concerned. -eric On Nov 8, 2011, at 4:57 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: Hi folks, For reasons that are complicated to explain I have the ear of the legal department at paypal -ebay. Part of the reason is that, as some of you may know, they are *requiring* all users to agree that that they read pdf files, or they will lose their account. Because of this and some other access issues with paypal and ebay, i have been asked to document why things like pdf and captcha are issues for those using adaptive tools. I have told them already that to assume everyone is using jaws is impractical, and that still browsers like lynx, with its recent edition dated June 2011, are good foundations for access. I have shared that pdf reaains a hurtle, and captcha is flat out an issue, as is stuff like flash. because they are serious though I want to make maximum use of this opportunity. What I would welcome is article information, places that discuss why pdf for example and captcha remain barriers. Likewise posts from you if you have met with issues with either service would be welcome. I want them to fix this for everyone, not just sweep me under the corporate rug. That they are shifting all document responsibility t the end user is disturbing, since if you have an issue say with security, you will bare the blame for any discrepancies in documentation. Additionally, if part of your professional life is access, share under your professional umbrella. If I get enough research responses, i will construct a solid document for them, and include as many other people as I can. Thanks in advance, Karen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to
help alex really slow
My MBP is to slow. Alex is slow sometimes takes 3 seconds to read what is on my cursor. Other times sounds like a bad Skype connection. it will sort of eat the first word and speak the rest. It is doing the thing that safari is busy, but is doing with every single application I have on and it is happening every 20 or 30 seconds. I cant do any manful work. it improves when mail is off. I verified my disk and reaper disk was not available. Any ideas please? Right now I am actually writing with no sound feedback, Alex just sort of went to sleep. I am very busy with loads of dead lines and I can read. Thank you. Ah, and if I turn voice over off it works just fine for any sighted person. also I am still in snow in this computer. Rachel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Looktel Blog
Cara, I could not find your email to talk off list, I had some questions about your post. Could you reply to me privately, please? Thanks, Rachel. On Oct 27, 2011, at 4:56 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: Oops, forgot to post the bloggie link! For anyone interested, here's the post on the Looktel blog: http://www.looktel.com/blog/nantworks-object-recognition-technology-wins-fcc-chairmans-award have a great day! Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
mail rules
Hello every one, I believe Paul helped me on this before. But I made a rule on mail to send all emails from macvisionaries@googlegroups.com to to be moved to my mac visionaries box.But nothing happened. Should it have moved the ones I already receive there too? thanks, Rachel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Scanning software like Kurzweil for the Mac?
Thanks for the correction. I read wrong on my research fora better scaning software for my mac. I did not realized that the 3000 did not cover blindness too. Thanks, Rachel. On Sep 19, 2011, at 5:44 PM, Mary Otten wrote: There is no Kurzweil1000 for the Mac. So far as I am aware, the kurzweil3000, which is their program geared for people whose difficulty with hard copy print doesn't involve blindness, is old and out of date. There are applications for the Mac that will let you scan and read, such as abbyy's fine reader express, vuescan etc. But none of them have anything like the array of features or flexibility offered by the K1000, admittedly for a higher price, of course. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Scanning software like Kurzweil for the Mac?
Thanks Mary, Which one would you say is your most comprehensive softwares for scanning from those you have used? Thanks, Rachel On Sep 19, 2011, at 9:14 PM, Mary Otten wrote: HI RACHEL, I DO NOT HAVE MUCH OF A NEED TO SCAN THE MATH AND HIGHLY GRAPHICAL TEXTS YOU WANT TO SCAN. I HAVE HAD SOME SUCCESS WITH COOKBOOKS, WHICH HAVE A LOT OF NUMBERS AND FRACTIONS; SOME SCAN BETTER THAN OTHERS. BUT HAVING HAD ADVANCED MATH DESCRIBED TO ME, I DOUBT THAT KURZWEIL OR ANY OTHER SCANNING APPLICATION WOULD DO VERY WELL WITH IT. MARY Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Scanning software like Kurzweil for the Mac?
Thanks Anne, You are right, I do need multiple languages, and I am guessing computer language is like another language on its own sometimes. :) I noticed the quality issue, so I was thinking to buy those scanners that have 3 high speed cameras. Do you know if that works well by any chance? Also, is there a type of scanner that works better with vuescan over another? How do you do your books? Do you turn page by page, or you feed pages through? I was told that unbinding the books might help? Also, I was told that Abbyy FineReader shows the corrections with an image next to the text, so how do you chooce the corrected text? Is it accessible with vo? Thanks so much! Rachel On Sep 20, 2011, at 11:36 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Rachel, If you're going to be scanning in languages other than just English, then DocuScan is not for you. Abbyy FineReader can handle up to three languages in the one document and does a good job. I use VueScan to create the images as it does an excellent job, then I have it set to hand over to ABBYY FineReader to do the OCR. I scan a whole book at a time using VueScan, then ABBYY FineReader does the OCR in one go. You can't start reading the book until the OCR is finished. The thing to remember about scanning and OCR, is that the output depends on the quality of the input. You have to make sure that the scans are as good as possible, which can be difficult when scanning a double-page of a book at a time. I place a print dictionary on top of the scanner lid to hold the book flat while scanning and get good results this way. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Scanning software like Kurzweil for the Mac?
Cool, I am really interested in the HoverCam, where did you get it and what brand is it? What would you recommend for this. Thanks, Rachel. On Sep 20, 2011, at 3:07 PM, Robert Carter wrote: HoverCam -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Scanning software like Kurzweil for the Mac?
I would need to use windows for the k1000 though, right? If I want to keep on the mac side only, I would have to think about the other options, correct? I am slow sometimes. RM On Sep 20, 2011, at 6:27 PM, Mary Otten wrote: Hi Rachel, I've used k1000 for a very long time. My husband tried abbyy fine reader and vuescan once he got his macbook air recently and had tried those two before on an old mac at school. K1000 is clearly much more feature rich than any of the programs that have been discussed. Whether you need those features is something only you can decide for yourself. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Scanning software like Kurzweil for the Mac?
RFBD has a book reader for the mac free for the first year, and an app for the iphone, ipad and ipod touch for $19. There is a Kurzweil for the mac. But I am not sure how it works, I have not tried it yet. Also I believe a very popular one in the list is the Express finder reader or something like that. I am sure someone else can get you more details on that. HTH, Rachel On Sep 19, 2011, at 12:31 PM, Allison Mervis wrote: Hi Becky. I believe that RFB (or learning ally as they're now called) has a downloader and book reading software for the mac. I would double check at they're website www.learningally.com Allison -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Becky Knaub Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 9:39 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Scanning software like Kurzweil for the Mac? Hi all, I was wandering if there are any scanning programs like Kurzweil for the Mac? If so does anyone know how much they are? Thank you for answering all my other questions Do RFBD books work on the mac? Are there any websites that tell you what apps work for the mac when voice over is on example applevis for the iPhone? Thanks. Becky -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Bootcamp or fusion and open office?
;, I started first with bootcamp and then switched to fusion. So that is possible. Now, I did like fusion better so I don't have to go through all the restart all the time. Of course, the greatest thing for me in bootcamp was the fact none of my short cut keys conflicted. So, there are advantages and disadvantages to every thing. If you have xp 32, you should be just find with 1 gb of ram for running the windows side on fusion. But again, it is also a matter of preference if you want more ram. i have 8 gb on my mbp, so I can use 4 gb for each os if I need to. Open office is liked by many. Although accessible, I think it's usability is not that great. Again, this is a personal opinion. You might like it. I would go with pages or some other editors. Unfortunately word for mac is not accessible. The plus of open office is that is free. But I still don't like it. And yes, you can send formats that everyone can view when you work in open office. HTH, Rachel On Sep 19, 2011, at 1:45 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote: Hi all, Starting out with the mac I am turning to you with some question I hep you can help me with: 1. I have mid 2010 mac mini with 2 gb of ram with lion. I have windows xp and jaws 11. Should I go with bootcamp or fusion? I suppose I will have to upgrade ram in case 2? Could I start out with bootcamp and change later? Any advice on this topic is very appreciated. 2. I understand open office is accessible on the mac. For basic letters in different languages with good spellcheck will open office do? Can I save documents in doc format for others to receive them? Thanks, Ioana (Sent from my phone) Please check out my new CD at www.ioanagandrabur.com or on itunes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Scanning software like Kurzweil for the Mac?
This is for Mary and any k1000 mac users, I am guessing you use the k1000? Is it really good with math, code and highly graphic text scanning? Thanks for any info. I am using right now abode acrobat pro, but I need something more accessible and that it is really good for complicated text scanning to improve my scan time and decrease editing. Thanks, Rachel. On Sep 19, 2011, at 7:40 PM, Mary Otten wrote: Mike's and my responses to the question of whether there is a scanning program for the Mac that is like k1000 points out how important it is if the person asking the question has an idea what uses they want to make of the program or what their requirements are. For instance, as has been mentioned, docuscan requires an internet connection. It also is English only, and it lacks a host of other features that K1000 has, such as the ability to make bookmarks in your file, to make notes and have your scans saved by default on your computer, not in the cloud. And you can adjust the scanning and ocr parameters and you have a choice of 2 ocr engines etc. Whether you need all that and the other features offered by the more expensive K1000 is up to you, of course. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
i pod touch question
Hello listers, Trying to up date my ios for my touch. But it keeps telling me I have not transferred all the items of my touch in to my itunes and that I should do that before continuing. Any one can help me do that? I thought I had sinked every thing, but twice I've tried and twice it tells me I have not done it. Thanks for any help! Rachel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: going to beginning or end of document in pages
It does not work for me Paul. Only the fn shift vo left and right arrows do. HTH, RM On Sep 18, 2011, at 6:15 AM, Paul Erkens wrote: Doesn't command up and command down work in pages as well, to move you to the beginning or end of a document? Paul. On Sep 12, 2011, at 5:06 PM, Rachel magario wrote: Interact with the body of the document and then use fn vo shift plus left or right arrow, depending upon if you want the start or the end. this is for laptop key board, not desk top I believe just vo plus home and end does it? Not sure on that though. Rachel. On Sep 12, 2011, at 6:47 AM, Anouk Radix wrote: Hi everyone, How can i go to the beginning or the end of a document in pages, i thought fn+left and right arrow would do it but htat doesnt get me there. Thanks in advance Greetings, Anouk, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Data Detector
Yea, I did several address book entries this way. such a time saver! :) Just in case you wanted to know! thanks again. On Sep 14, 2011, at 3:49 PM, Marc Workman wrote: If you open the short cut menu with VO shift M on some text that says data detector, you can perform various actions. For example, if someone sends an email containing the date and time of a meeting, I can use VO shift M to bring up a menu that includes the option of creating a quick cal event. Choose that option, and the information will automatically be entered into the edit fields for creating an iCal event. You may have to edit things like the title of the event, but it is still faster than starting from scratch. I believe you can also do things like add an email or phone number to contacts with VO shift M on a data detector containing either of these two pieces of information. I agree it can be annoying, and there ought to be some way of controlling when it is and is not announced, but it can also be a pretty handy feature. HTH Marc On 2011-09-14, at 1:06 AM, Garth Humphreys wrote: Hi All Can you please tell me what it means when VO says data detector whilst reading mail? Is there a way I can stop it? Garth -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Your contacts
Eric, how do you sink contacts? Thanks, Rachel. My phone does and my touch, but my calendar does not. On Sep 18, 2011, at 2:01 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: Yes, as long as both devices are pointed at your google exchange account. You only need to do the setup once per device and then they simply update transparently as long as the given device has an internet connection. Best, Erik Burggraaf This month in Ebony Promos: Two new gps systems for demo. Mac OS Lion When will it be supported? Ebony Consulting at accessibility Unconference Toronto. To read more and subscribe, Visit: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/mailman/listinfo/ebony-promos_erik-burggraaf.com Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-09-18, at 2:54 PM, Traci wrote: Ok, so syncing with google contacts, does it update devices over the air? If I add a contact on my Mac, will it automatically add that to my iPad? Thanks, Traci - Original Message - From: erik burggraaf To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 11:52 AM Subject: Re: Your contacts I compile everything in addressbook and sync it with google contacts so that I have all of the information on my laptop, itouch, windows mobile handheld, and online where I can add it to any new device I might chance to acquire. Best, Erik Burggraaf This month in Ebony Promos: Two new gps systems for demo. Mac OS Lion When will it be supported? Ebony Consulting at accessibility Unconference Toronto. To read more and subscribe, Visit: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/mailman/listinfo/ebony-promos_erik-burggraaf.com Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-09-18, at 2:43 PM, Traci wrote: For those of you that are iPhone users as well as Mac users, do you keep all of your contact details in Mac's addressbook? Including phone numbers? I've been wondering how I'm going to go about this, when I get the iPhone, because I know my phonebook and addressbook are not going to match. I'm sort of thinking I should begin manually adding numbers to the addressbook, and consolidating email addresses? How about when you only have a phone number for a contact, no email, such as a business? All tips are welcome. Thanks, Traci -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Question regarding home networking.
Alison, I hope to be helpful. However, I am no network expert. I have only seen others setting it up. To share with mac users on your net work, you need to choose AFT protocol, for the PCs users you need to set the protocol to MSB in your folder sharing settings for the folders you want to share. If you have any linux you need FTP. To get to those folders, it would be just like getting to a regular folder, but it will been set up for sharing. And finder would let you know you are in a shared folder in the status if you need to double check. Now if you have more than 10 computers in the network, then you need a server OS to make the sharing possible. I am not sure why. At home I only have 3 going, so I never got in to issues. But I've heard that before. It could be things have changed now. At work, if I am in the mac, there is no issues, but if I am in a PC, I have to connect through the server connection tool in the finder, I believe command k took me there. Since I used to be the only person with a PC, and there was some issue with the type of drive sharing software that only took macs. I am not really sure of the details on that. So I guess depending upon how many computers you guys have and what you are wanting to do, there are different ways to go about that. HTH, Rachel. On Sep 18, 2011, at 5:15 AM, Scott Howell wrote: Allison, If you are using Lion, there may be a way, but not entirely sure. Samba was removed from LIon, which is how I had done it in the past. However, I do not have any windows machines any longer since my employer gave me a Mac. Hopefully someone on the list has a mixed environment and will have something to offer. Good luck, On Sep 17, 2011, at 9:18 PM, Allison Mervis wrote: Hi Scott. Thanks so much for your response. All of the pc's and both macs are successfully connected to the network, either via WIFI or Ethernet. However, I want to be able to share files between all of the machines. On the pc's, I'm able to go into the network and sharing center, see all of the computers in the home group, and copy files and folders between them. Can this be done on the mac? Thanks again. Allison From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 5:49 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Question regarding home networking. Allison, Adding the MInis would be no different than adding the PCs. In fact once you turn on wireless networking or connect them via ethernet, assuming your network is configured using dhcp, the Minis will pull IP addresses from the router. On Sep 17, 2011, at 5:38 PM, Allison Mervis wrote: Hi everyone. My boyfriend and I currently have all of the PC's in our house networked via a home group. We recently purchased Mac minis, and we would like to add them to the network as well. How exactly is this accomplished? Is the fact that the network was originally created on a PC going to cause issues? Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much. Allison -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: not able to edit pages document?
Hmm, I never had something like that happen before. What version of iworks are you in, and are you in snow or lion? Rachel. On Sep 16, 2011, at 2:11 AM, Jessica and Goldina wrote: Rachel and Eugenia, thanks so much for your suggestions. Unfortunately, I have not gotten either of them to work. for the sake of my homework I ended up just opening a new document and retyping it from the original document so I was able to hand it in. thank goodness it wasn't a very long assignment so it wasn't a big deal. But this is happening with all pages documents. After I finished with my homework I did a little experiment. I opened a new pages document, typed something in it and quit pages. when I tried to open it, it opened fine but again, I couldn't type in it or delete anything from it. when I tried to select all and copy and paste, it would select all but I couldn't copy. that's why I couldn't take Rachel's suggestion of copying and pasting into text edit. it selects all but won't let me copy. the quicknav keys are turned off. I even turned voiceover off thinking it might be a VO issue but it did the same thing with voiceover off. just clunked at me when I tried to type in the document. It's as if the documents are locked but they aren't. when I get info on the files, it says I have permission to read and write. yesterday when I first noticed this happening I tried repairing my permissions and it didn't fix. I tried Eugenia's suggestion of renaming the backup and deleting the original but it did the same thing with the renamed backup. I opened it up and couldn't manipulate the text in the document. I'm getting a bit worried cuz I have a research paper for one of my classes that I wanna start working on soon. I don't wanna be fighting with pages when it comes down to doing serious writing. that just sounds too…PC-esque. it seems like it's some kind of weird permissions issue. when I do the same thing with text edit, it works fine. I'm able to open a new document in text edit, write in it, close it and write in it again with no problems. it's just pages. peace and positivity Jessica and Goldina follow me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 2011-09-15, at 5:36 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi Jessica and Goldina I had this happen to me, and I wrote Apple about it. In my case, I had a backup file that was label by the computer as backup. I deleted the original (with the idea that I could get it out of trash if I had to. Then I renamed the backup file by taking out the word backup and leaving in the original name, thus giving me a file with the same name as the one I just deleted. When I did this, it worked like a charm. All my data was there, too. Regards, Gigi On Sep 14, 2011, at 9:38 PM, Jessica and Goldina wrote: Jessica and Goldina -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Fusion 4 and Window-Eyes
:), I think I am going to go with that route to, at least just for now until the semester is over! :) On Sep 15, 2011, at 10:40 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: I don't think it tried to do that, since my windows 7 virtual machine works fine the way it is, I'm going to leave it, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. On Sep 15, 2011, at 7:13 PM, Keith Watson wrote: Mike, Did your vm automatically try to install vmware tools even after saying no to the upgrade vm option? No matter what I have done it always seems to want to install. I have to cancel and can then use the vm, but it's annoying. On Sep 15, 2011, at 8:10 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: I have window yes, I think it's 7.2 installed, I will try it. I don't see any difference in a version 4 virtual machine, I think it supports hd audio, and better graphics, you might try copying your version 3 virtual machine back, and telling fusion not to upgrade it. By the way, pressing enter at that window eyes prompt does not reboot windows, it just exits window eyes. On Sep 15, 2011, at 1:07 PM, Robert Carter wrote: Hi All, After upgrading from VMWare Fusion 3 to 4, fusion asked to upgrade my Windows XP VM that I had been using with Fusion 3. After upgrading the VM, Window-Eyes version 7.1 said that the video driver had changed and that windows needed to restart. Window-Eyes then said press enter to continue. After that point, I get no sound from the VM at all. I am not positive whether or not it actually restarted but it appears that it probably did. At least fusion seems to think that windows is running. At any rate, if I let it sit for a few minutes, the fan on my Mac starts running at top speed suggesting that the computer is working extremely hard. I booted my system with an earlier SuperDuper clone and of course Window-Eyes ran fine because I was again using fusion 3. I then uninstalled Window-Eyes from that SuperDuper clone and copy the VM without Window-Eyes back to my fusion 4 installation. I then allowed the XP VM to be upgraded by fusion to work with fusion 4. I then ran System Access as the screen reader and it works perfectly. I have not yet decided whether or not I will try installing Window-Eyes but it is possible that Window-Eyes does not like fusion 4. Does anybody have fusion 4 working with Window-Eyes in an XP VM? Thanks, Robert Carter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Difficulty reading a pdf manual in the viewer
Paul, I just interact with the reading area and leave my nav quick keys on, then I can just use arrows up and down. HTH, Rachel On Sep 15, 2011, at 9:32 PM, Paul Henrichsen wrote: Thanks. I'll give that a try. I was doing it from the Amadeus help menu. On Sep 12, 2011, at 8:45 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote: Hi Paul, you'll find the Amadeus documentation in Macintosh HD / Library / Application Support / Amadeus. Wen I open that file with Preview I have no difficulties reading it line by line. Just interact with the text area and use VO + arrow up and down. Play with the viw options a little bit and find out what suits you the best. Then you'll find out how to get an index if available. The only issue I have with Preview is to read a text continuously by pressing VO + a. All the best Jürgen Am 12.09.2011 um 06:12 schrieb Paul Henrichsen: Hi, guys. I'm having difficulty figuring out how to read a pdf manual in the viewer. Particularly, I am trying to read the Amadeus manual. I can't figure out how to read it line by line like I would do in windows by pressing down arrow. I have tried interacting with the text, but it seems that VO right arrow is the only way to read anything. What if you wanted to quickly peruse a manual by page without doing a search? If you find something in the table of contents, is there a way to jump to that particular section? I'm not even sure where the manual was stored. I would have thought it would have been in the documents folder, but it doesn't appear to be there. The only way I can get to it is through the help menu. Reading documentation seems much harder on the mac than under windows. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: parallels 7 totally inaccessible
Thanks Mike! I just got an extension offer from them. Seriously, I hate that I already spent money on them the first time around. Thanks for taking the time to check the accessibility, I appreciate it. Cheers, RM On Sep 15, 2011, at 6:31 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: Hi everyone, for those of you who were wondering about the new parallels 7, it is totally inaccessible just as the previous versions are. When you launch the application you have the minimize and zoom buttons, the only other thing voiceover says is unknown Interacting or tabbing around does not do anything. I remember some users notified the company of this back when version 5 was out, so it's obvious that at least for now, the company has no interest in resolving this. Fortunately, for virtualization, we can use fusion which works well and is accessible. I've actually heard that parallels is faster than fusion, have not compared them, but even if it is, if it's not accessible, the extra speed is meaningless. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Questionabout Super Doopper and external drives
Chris, Yes, fusion 4 allows for snow and snow server to run as a virtual machine as well as lion and lion server. HTH, Rachel On Sep 15, 2011, at 3:21 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: Well, there were a bunch of hacky ways to do this using special modified installs from Torrent sites. I'm not really interested in all that. Just wanted to find out if Fusion 4 took the restriction off for making 10.6 virtual machines. CB On 9/14/11 6:45 PM, Rachel magario wrote: chris, I have a friend who is running a 10.6 virtual machine on the pc side, if that is of anyhelp. He does not use screen readers though. HTH, Rachel. On Sep 14, 2011, at 2:39 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: I wonder about the reverse. Could I upgrade to Lion and then use Fusion 4 to make a virtual 10.6 system so I could test or run stuff that isn't updated yet? Used to be VMWare stopped you from making a 10.6 virtual machine. CB On 9/14/11 3:05 PM, Paul Erkens wrote: Hi Bill Holton, You're right. Running Lion inside a vm is a good solution if you don't want to upgrade from snow leopard yet. I'm running Lion to my full satisfaction and it's running natively. The sandbox is a breeze to work with once you get the hang of it. It took me the reading of a chapter in de super duper manual, and I was ready to go. I've never attempted to set up anything else than windows inside a virtual environment in fusion myself yet. Interested to hear how you succeed. Paul. On Sep 14, 2011, at 8:47 PM, Bill Holton wrote: I'm thinking a virtual Lion could make a nice sandbox for testing, and if I screw something up I can just delete the virtual machine and set up a new one. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Erkens Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 2:23 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Questionabout Super Doopper and external drives Hi Bill Holton, Both sandboxing and running Lion inside vm fusion requires some system maintanance. Why would you want to run lion as a virtual machine by the way? Why not just natively? Paul. On Sep 14, 2011, at 8:07 PM, Bill Holton wrote: Thanks for these great instructions. It looks like the new version of VM Fusion will allow me to run Lion as a virtual machine, which sounds like it will be easier than sandboxing. But I do need to partition and format my coming USB HD so the instructions are no less appreciated. Thanks. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Erkens Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 1:13 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Questionabout Super Doopper and external drives Hi Bill Holton, You can repartition an external drive, and create both a fat32 windows partition and a mac os 10 extended journaled one with mac disk utility. You can then use the fat32 partition to share data between windows and the mac, and you can use the os10 partition to maintain a backup of everything on your mac. Let's begin by looking at how to resize your macintosh hd partition and have a sandbox beside it. It involves a few steps which I'll describe below. Not key by key though. I'll assume that you have some mac knowledge, but just don't know where to go yet, and in what order. Here you go. First open disk utility, to carefully inspect your current configuration so that you know what you will be changing.. To do this, Go into the finder, say, your desktop, and press command shift u from there. This will open your utilities folder. Here, find disk utility dot app, and open it. In the disk table on the left, interact, and look at your current disk configuration. You need to know a few things before you go do something here. A disk is just a disk, and you cannot use it directly. It needs to have a partition to hold the file system, inside of which you can store files. There are many file systems, one of them is fat32, and another is mac os10 extended journaled. A filesystem lives inside a partition, so the partition is the container for the file system on the disk. From the disk perspective, you first have an empty disk. Then you create a partition on the disk, spanning all or only part of the disk size. As you are creating the new partition, you must choose which file system is going to live inside it, because The partition must be formatted for use with the type of file system that you want to use. In other words, the way you format your partition, becomes a property of the partition. So, on your external usb drive, you can have a fat32 partition, and a mac os10 partition, and you can have 2 separate mac os 10 extended journaled partitions on your internal mac hard drive. In both cases, You then just allocate one bit to the first partition, and the rest of the disk space to the other. You do
Re: Questionabout Super Doopper and external drives
Same here! Cheers, RM On Sep 16, 2011, at 1:20 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: Nice. I know they used to allow Snow server virtual machines. I think once the point release of 4 comes out I'll upgrade. Always hesitant to go with any version that is a dot zero. CB On 9/16/11 9:13 AM, Rachel magario wrote: Chris, Yes, fusion 4 allows for snow and snow server to run as a virtual machine as well as lion and lion server. HTH, Rachel On Sep 15, 2011, at 3:21 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: Well, there were a bunch of hacky ways to do this using special modified installs from Torrent sites. I'm not really interested in all that. Just wanted to find out if Fusion 4 took the restriction off for making 10.6 virtual machines. CB On 9/14/11 6:45 PM, Rachel magario wrote: chris, I have a friend who is running a 10.6 virtual machine on the pc side, if that is of anyhelp. He does not use screen readers though. HTH, Rachel. On Sep 14, 2011, at 2:39 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: I wonder about the reverse. Could I upgrade to Lion and then use Fusion 4 to make a virtual 10.6 system so I could test or run stuff that isn't updated yet? Used to be VMWare stopped you from making a 10.6 virtual machine. CB On 9/14/11 3:05 PM, Paul Erkens wrote: Hi Bill Holton, You're right. Running Lion inside a vm is a good solution if you don't want to upgrade from snow leopard yet. I'm running Lion to my full satisfaction and it's running natively. The sandbox is a breeze to work with once you get the hang of it. It took me the reading of a chapter in de super duper manual, and I was ready to go. I've never attempted to set up anything else than windows inside a virtual environment in fusion myself yet. Interested to hear how you succeed. Paul. On Sep 14, 2011, at 8:47 PM, Bill Holton wrote: I'm thinking a virtual Lion could make a nice sandbox for testing, and if I screw something up I can just delete the virtual machine and set up a new one. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Erkens Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 2:23 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Questionabout Super Doopper and external drives Hi Bill Holton, Both sandboxing and running Lion inside vm fusion requires some system maintanance. Why would you want to run lion as a virtual machine by the way? Why not just natively? Paul. On Sep 14, 2011, at 8:07 PM, Bill Holton wrote: Thanks for these great instructions. It looks like the new version of VM Fusion will allow me to run Lion as a virtual machine, which sounds like it will be easier than sandboxing. But I do need to partition and format my coming USB HD so the instructions are no less appreciated. Thanks. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Erkens Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 1:13 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Questionabout Super Doopper and external drives Hi Bill Holton, You can repartition an external drive, and create both a fat32 windows partition and a mac os 10 extended journaled one with mac disk utility. You can then use the fat32 partition to share data between windows and the mac, and you can use the os10 partition to maintain a backup of everything on your mac. Let's begin by looking at how to resize your macintosh hd partition and have a sandbox beside it. It involves a few steps which I'll describe below. Not key by key though. I'll assume that you have some mac knowledge, but just don't know where to go yet, and in what order. Here you go. First open disk utility, to carefully inspect your current configuration so that you know what you will be changing.. To do this, Go into the finder, say, your desktop, and press command shift u from there. This will open your utilities folder. Here, find disk utility dot app, and open it. In the disk table on the left, interact, and look at your current disk configuration. You need to know a few things before you go do something here. A disk is just a disk, and you cannot use it directly. It needs to have a partition to hold the file system, inside of which you can store files. There are many file systems, one of them is fat32, and another is mac os10 extended journaled. A filesystem lives inside a partition, so the partition is the container for the file system on the disk. From the disk perspective, you first have an empty disk. Then you create a partition on the disk, spanning all or only part of the disk size. As you are creating the new partition, you must choose which file system is going to live inside it, because The partition must be formatted for use with the type of file system that you want to use. In other words, the way you format your partition, becomes a property
smart mail boxes
Hi guys, I have created a smart mailbox for certain types of emails I get. But instead of just being move to the smart mailbox. It just copy. Any one knows how to actually make the emails go to the mail box and by pass the in box. Thanks for any help Rachel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: smart mail boxes
You are the best Paul, thanks! Rachel On Sep 16, 2011, at 2:18 PM, Paul Erkens wrote: Hi Rachel, That one I know, because I had the same question 2 days ago. A smart mailbox is just a way to group messages together. Say you have a giant inbox, but you only want to see the messages from your class mate because he sends you useful attachments. Then, you can create a smart mailbox. All messages you select will appear there, but a smart mailbox is meant to just do that. It shows your selected messages, as if no other ones were present in your inbox. Deleting a message from the smart mailbox deletes it from inbox and vice versa. If you want to move email out of your inbox, over to another mailbox, then make it a normal one. Create new mailbox. Not a smart one. Then, go to mail preferences, command comma, and go to the rules tab. This is an item in the toolbar of mail preferences that you can click. That is the place to create a new message rule. If the following criteria are met, is the first item It is followed by a scroll area. Interact, and fill in the criteria. From: a special person. Or to: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Etc. Then stop interacting, move on, and fill in what should happen, once a matching message is found. Move it to the following mailbox: and there you have a pop up button, from which you select your newly created, normal, non smart mailbox. From then on, new messages that match will be moved to your new mailbox because of the message rule. Hth, Paul. On Sep 16, 2011, at 9:10 PM, Rachel magario wrote: Hi guys, I have created a smart mailbox for certain types of emails I get. But instead of just being move to the smart mailbox. It just copy. Any one knows how to actually make the emails go to the mail box and by pass the in box. Thanks for any help Rachel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: smart mail boxes
Paul, do you know the difference between the smart mailbox and the smart folder? I was just wondering. Rachel. On Sep 16, 2011, at 2:18 PM, Paul Erkens wrote: Hi Rachel, That one I know, because I had the same question 2 days ago. A smart mailbox is just a way to group messages together. Say you have a giant inbox, but you only want to see the messages from your class mate because he sends you useful attachments. Then, you can create a smart mailbox. All messages you select will appear there, but a smart mailbox is meant to just do that. It shows your selected messages, as if no other ones were present in your inbox. Deleting a message from the smart mailbox deletes it from inbox and vice versa. If you want to move email out of your inbox, over to another mailbox, then make it a normal one. Create new mailbox. Not a smart one. Then, go to mail preferences, command comma, and go to the rules tab. This is an item in the toolbar of mail preferences that you can click. That is the place to create a new message rule. If the following criteria are met, is the first item It is followed by a scroll area. Interact, and fill in the criteria. From: a special person. Or to: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Etc. Then stop interacting, move on, and fill in what should happen, once a matching message is found. Move it to the following mailbox: and there you have a pop up button, from which you select your newly created, normal, non smart mailbox. From then on, new messages that match will be moved to your new mailbox because of the message rule. Hth, Paul. On Sep 16, 2011, at 9:10 PM, Rachel magario wrote: Hi guys, I have created a smart mailbox for certain types of emails I get. But instead of just being move to the smart mailbox. It just copy. Any one knows how to actually make the emails go to the mail box and by pass the in box. Thanks for any help Rachel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: stopping adium from reading incoming messages
thanks, goign to try. On Sep 14, 2011, at 11:31 PM, Anouk Radix wrote: Hey, interesting! I just downloaded growl first about a week ago and then the stable version of adium. It does this out of the box for me. Greetings, Anouk, On Sep 15, 2011, at 6:04 AM, Rachel magario wrote: Cool, mine does that, just the sound, it drives me crazy. how do I config to make it read the way you don't want? Sweet! Rachel On Sep 14, 2011, at 11:00 PM, Anouk Radix wrote: Hi, Adium standard reads incomng messages to me via growl. I dont like this, i just want adium to play a sound instead. However I would like adium to announce to me when people sign on or off. Is it possible in growl to turn reading incoming meassages of? Greetings, Anouk, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
endnote
Hello listers, Anyone ever used endnote for mac. if you did, how did it work? Thanks, RM Sent from my iPod -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Data Detector
Paul and Garf, I respect your positions. I hope they make an option to turn it off, but not do away with the feature. It did not bother me before and now that I know I can make this in to a ical or address book entry. I am excited! Could someone send me the email where someone just explained how to make this entry in to an ical deal. I know it would not fill every thing, but any field that is already filled is a time saver, plus it would help bad spellers like me! ;) I cant find that other message, where someone explained how to use it. Thanks, Rachel. 1, at 7:36 AM, Paul Erkens wrote: I wrote Apple accessibility about the data detector issue, and it has been passed on to the right people they answered. Curious for the next update. I would like to turn this off as well. Paul. On Sep 14, 2011, at 10:06 AM, Garth Humphreys wrote: Hi All Can you please tell me what it means when VO says data detector whilst reading mail? Is there a way I can stop it? Garth -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Data Detector
Thanks Mark, Is that on lion or snow? I did on snow and I chose new to do, but I did not get the icall window to fill in the rest of th appointment Do I need to do something else? Thanks again. Rachel On Sep 15, 2011, at 10:05 AM, Marc Workman wrote: Hi Rachel, You simply have to find the relevant bit of text, phone number, email, date and time, etc, by arrowing to it. You'll hear it say data detector. Then you just press VO shift M, and this will bring up a context menu. You can select the option that you want from the context menu. HTH Marc On 2011-09-15, at 7:14 AM, Rachel magario wrote: Paul and Garf, I respect your positions. I hope they make an option to turn it off, but not do away with the feature. It did not bother me before and now that I know I can make this in to a ical or address book entry. I am excited! Could someone send me the email where someone just explained how to make this entry in to an ical deal. I know it would not fill every thing, but any field that is already filled is a time saver, plus it would help bad spellers like me! ;) I cant find that other message, where someone explained how to use it. Thanks, Rachel. 1, at 7:36 AM, Paul Erkens wrote: I wrote Apple accessibility about the data detector issue, and it has been passed on to the right people they answered. Curious for the next update. I would like to turn this off as well. Paul. On Sep 14, 2011, at 10:06 AM, Garth Humphreys wrote: Hi All Can you please tell me what it means when VO says data detector whilst reading mail? Is there a way I can stop it? Garth -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Data Detector
no prob, I will try on lion now, thanks! :) On Sep 15, 2011, at 10:30 AM, Marc Workman wrote: I'm working in Lion. What I choose is quick look event, but I'm afraid I can't remember how this worked in SL. Sorry about that. Hopefully, experimenting a bit will help, or perhaps someone else will chime in. Marc On 2011-09-15, at 8:25 AM, Rachel magario wrote: Thanks Mark, Is that on lion or snow? I did on snow and I chose new to do, but I did not get the icall window to fill in the rest of th appointment Do I need to do something else? Thanks again. Rachel On Sep 15, 2011, at 10:05 AM, Marc Workman wrote: Hi Rachel, You simply have to find the relevant bit of text, phone number, email, date and time, etc, by arrowing to it. You'll hear it say data detector. Then you just press VO shift M, and this will bring up a context menu. You can select the option that you want from the context menu. HTH Marc On 2011-09-15, at 7:14 AM, Rachel magario wrote: Paul and Garf, I respect your positions. I hope they make an option to turn it off, but not do away with the feature. It did not bother me before and now that I know I can make this in to a ical or address book entry. I am excited! Could someone send me the email where someone just explained how to make this entry in to an ical deal. I know it would not fill every thing, but any field that is already filled is a time saver, plus it would help bad spellers like me! ;) I cant find that other message, where someone explained how to use it. Thanks, Rachel. 1, at 7:36 AM, Paul Erkens wrote: I wrote Apple accessibility about the data detector issue, and it has been passed on to the right people they answered. Curious for the next update. I would like to turn this off as well. Paul. On Sep 14, 2011, at 10:06 AM, Garth Humphreys wrote: Hi All Can you please tell me what it means when VO says data detector whilst reading mail? Is there a way I can stop it? Garth -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mail changes resulting from latest security update
Mark, vo j was not working for me on lion. I just do command o to open a message and command w to close and I am always in the message list. Hope this helps. Rachel. On Sep 15, 2011, at 12:09 PM, Marc Workman wrote: Appreciate the response, Ray. It could be the same update that you installed a few days ago. I only noticed the software update window this morning, but it could have been released a while ago. I appreciate you sharing your method for reading messages, and I might end up having to use it, but there are several ways in which it is less efficient than the one I was using up until this morning. First, rather than having to jump back and forth with VO J to read each message, the method I used only required a press of the VO down or up arrows to read each message, one keystroke, VO down arrow, as opposed to three, down arrow followed by VO J to read the message and VO J again to jump back. Also, once done with the conversation, I only had to press shift tab and delete to get rid of the entire conversation. I could do this from anywhere in the conversation. No searching for the beginning of the conversation to first close it and then press delete. I should restate, it is still possible to tab on a conversation and VO down arrow through the conversation. The problem is that I no longer know who sent each message as I land on it. There's one other difference that relates to what Ray said. VO J is no longer working to jump me into the message content. I used to use this to read messages that weren't part of conversations. Now, if I hit VO J on a message, I'm brought into the mailbox table, a second VO J brings me back to the messages table, and continual VO J presses cycles me back and forth between these two. Since VO J still works for Ray, I assume this has something to do with my configuration, but if others could confirm, I'd appreciate it. Cheers, Marc On 2011-09-15, at 8:48 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Well Mark, I did install a security update a few days ago. Could that be the one to which you are referring? As for slugishness, I am noticing that, when I reply to certain messages, I too get slugish typing response and over the keyboard generally. This is not happening right now as I reply to your message. As for the conversation view, what I normally do is when I run across a 5 message conversation or so, I just use the right arrow to open up that conversation and arrow down to the first message in that conversation. then, if I want to read it, I just use VO+j to interact with the text area of the message. When done, I just back out again using VO+j. That brings me to the list of messages in the conversation. When I've had enough of the conversation, I just go all the way to the top of it, close it with left arrow and delete it. Makes it much faster for me that way. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Sep 15, 2011, at 10:43 AM, Marc Workman wrote: Hi, I installed a security update through software update this morning, and it seems to have resulted in some changes to Mail, changes I'm not particularly happy with. I wonder if others have installed the security update and are noticing similar changes. The issue has to do with the message content table. In the past, when I came across a conversation of, say, 9 messages that I wanted to read, I would simply hit tab in order to be taken into the message content table. I could then VO arrow down the messages, and I would hear who sent the message as well as the entire message itself. Now, if I do the same thing, I will sometimes hear who sent it, but I will often just hear the number it holds in the sequence of messages. If it's the third message, VO says 3 and then reads the message. I like to know who sent the message before reading it, rather than possibly discovering the source at the end, assuming that the person signed it at all. I've tried customizing the header information in preferences, but this has not solved the problem. It also seems that I am getting the busy message much more than usual, particularly in the message content table as I am VO arrowing up and down through the messages. Mail also unexpectedly shut down as I was composing this message. Mail is the only app running besides finder, so there is really no reason for the sluggish behaviour. Anyone else noticing this after installing the security update? Thanks, Marc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
Re: Mail changes resulting from latest security update
thanks, that might be my problem, so thanks for sharing! I'll give it a try. Rachel. On Sep 15, 2011, at 12:17 PM, Marc Workman wrote: Okay, my apologies. It looks like I was taken out of full screen mode. I didn't realize I was in full screen mode in the first place, but I guess I was since putting it back in full screen mode has restored the usual information in the message content table for conversations. It also made it possible to read messages again with VO J. Best, Marc On 2011-09-15, at 8:48 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Well Mark, I did install a security update a few days ago. Could that be the one to which you are referring? As for slugishness, I am noticing that, when I reply to certain messages, I too get slugish typing response and over the keyboard generally. This is not happening right now as I reply to your message. As for the conversation view, what I normally do is when I run across a 5 message conversation or so, I just use the right arrow to open up that conversation and arrow down to the first message in that conversation. then, if I want to read it, I just use VO+j to interact with the text area of the message. When done, I just back out again using VO+j. That brings me to the list of messages in the conversation. When I've had enough of the conversation, I just go all the way to the top of it, close it with left arrow and delete it. Makes it much faster for me that way. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Sep 15, 2011, at 10:43 AM, Marc Workman wrote: Hi, I installed a security update through software update this morning, and it seems to have resulted in some changes to Mail, changes I'm not particularly happy with. I wonder if others have installed the security update and are noticing similar changes. The issue has to do with the message content table. In the past, when I came across a conversation of, say, 9 messages that I wanted to read, I would simply hit tab in order to be taken into the message content table. I could then VO arrow down the messages, and I would hear who sent the message as well as the entire message itself. Now, if I do the same thing, I will sometimes hear who sent it, but I will often just hear the number it holds in the sequence of messages. If it's the third message, VO says 3 and then reads the message. I like to know who sent the message before reading it, rather than possibly discovering the source at the end, assuming that the person signed it at all. I've tried customizing the header information in preferences, but this has not solved the problem. It also seems that I am getting the busy message much more than usual, particularly in the message content table as I am VO arrowing up and down through the messages. Mail also unexpectedly shut down as I was composing this message. Mail is the only app running besides finder, so there is really no reason for the sluggish behaviour. Anyone else noticing this after installing the security update? Thanks, Marc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Finding a downloded dmg file
1. how do I invoke spotlight? press command space or vo m 3 times. 2. or How do I find a downloaded dmg file? how Ricardo suggested or go to finder, command shift h then write download and it will get your down load folder up and you do command o to open it. hth, Rachel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VMWare Fusion 4 is out and accessible
Missy, are you a student, by any chance? If you are windows is very cheap. There are some online stores that sell it really cheap specially xp versions. There are many ways to get windows, perhaps a company who up grated and is no longer using the xp version. Any ways, just a tip in case you really want windows, i know it is not 7, but no reason why you could not try your fusion. Cheers, Rachel. On Sep 14, 2011, at 3:27 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: I just bought fusion about 4 months ago, and got the 1 year update plan or whatever it is. Will I get version 4 if I check for updates, or how does that work? I'm still not actively using it yet because I haven't been able to afford a copy of windows to install on my mac, but if there is an upgrade that I'm entitled to, I want to be sure and get it. Thanks! Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Campbell Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 12:10 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: VMWare Fusion 4 is out and accessible Hello my fellow Mac users. VMWare has just released VMWare Fusion 4 today. For those that don't know or who are new to the mac, Fusion lets you run windows on you're Mac without having to reboot in to a separate OS. Fusion is $50 until the end of the year but will go up to $80 after that point. Now for some great news. Fusion works amazingly well with Vo as far as I can see. There's a couple unlabelled buttons hear and there but these can be figured out quite easily. The easiest thing to get stuck on is the Virtual Machine Library but I'll give steps here on how to best navigate it. When Fusion is opened for the first time, you will be presented with the Library screen where you will find a scroll area. Interact with this and you will see some unlabelled buttons. The number of buttons you will see depends on how many OS's you have running. I had two, one for windows and one for Ubuntu. In order to see which button is which, just Press VO down arrow and the VM in focus will be announced. So to recap, the power button is on top and the name is underneath kind of like you'd find things in a store where the product is on the shelf and the price is on a little tag on the front of the shelf. Hope this helps and feel free to email the list if I can possibly help further. Matthew Campbell -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Questionabout Super Doopper and external drives
chris, I have a friend who is running a 10.6 virtual machine on the pc side, if that is of anyhelp. He does not use screen readers though. HTH, Rachel. On Sep 14, 2011, at 2:39 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: I wonder about the reverse. Could I upgrade to Lion and then use Fusion 4 to make a virtual 10.6 system so I could test or run stuff that isn't updated yet? Used to be VMWare stopped you from making a 10.6 virtual machine. CB On 9/14/11 3:05 PM, Paul Erkens wrote: Hi Bill Holton, You're right. Running Lion inside a vm is a good solution if you don't want to upgrade from snow leopard yet. I'm running Lion to my full satisfaction and it's running natively. The sandbox is a breeze to work with once you get the hang of it. It took me the reading of a chapter in de super duper manual, and I was ready to go. I've never attempted to set up anything else than windows inside a virtual environment in fusion myself yet. Interested to hear how you succeed. Paul. On Sep 14, 2011, at 8:47 PM, Bill Holton wrote: I'm thinking a virtual Lion could make a nice sandbox for testing, and if I screw something up I can just delete the virtual machine and set up a new one. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Erkens Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 2:23 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Questionabout Super Doopper and external drives Hi Bill Holton, Both sandboxing and running Lion inside vm fusion requires some system maintanance. Why would you want to run lion as a virtual machine by the way? Why not just natively? Paul. On Sep 14, 2011, at 8:07 PM, Bill Holton wrote: Thanks for these great instructions. It looks like the new version of VM Fusion will allow me to run Lion as a virtual machine, which sounds like it will be easier than sandboxing. But I do need to partition and format my coming USB HD so the instructions are no less appreciated. Thanks. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Erkens Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 1:13 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Questionabout Super Doopper and external drives Hi Bill Holton, You can repartition an external drive, and create both a fat32 windows partition and a mac os 10 extended journaled one with mac disk utility. You can then use the fat32 partition to share data between windows and the mac, and you can use the os10 partition to maintain a backup of everything on your mac. Let's begin by looking at how to resize your macintosh hd partition and have a sandbox beside it. It involves a few steps which I'll describe below. Not key by key though. I'll assume that you have some mac knowledge, but just don't know where to go yet, and in what order. Here you go. First open disk utility, to carefully inspect your current configuration so that you know what you will be changing.. To do this, Go into the finder, say, your desktop, and press command shift u from there. This will open your utilities folder. Here, find disk utility dot app, and open it. In the disk table on the left, interact, and look at your current disk configuration. You need to know a few things before you go do something here. A disk is just a disk, and you cannot use it directly. It needs to have a partition to hold the file system, inside of which you can store files. There are many file systems, one of them is fat32, and another is mac os10 extended journaled. A filesystem lives inside a partition, so the partition is the container for the file system on the disk. From the disk perspective, you first have an empty disk. Then you create a partition on the disk, spanning all or only part of the disk size. As you are creating the new partition, you must choose which file system is going to live inside it, because The partition must be formatted for use with the type of file system that you want to use. In other words, the way you format your partition, becomes a property of the partition. So, on your external usb drive, you can have a fat32 partition, and a mac os10 partition, and you can have 2 separate mac os 10 extended journaled partitions on your internal mac hard drive. In both cases, You then just allocate one bit to the first partition, and the rest of the disk space to the other. You do this by setting the size text fields inside disk utility. See below. Once inside disk utility on the mac, you will see your hard disk as the brand of physical disk inside the machine, for example Hitachi 500gb. This item in the disk table is usually expanded, meaning there can be something inside it. And indeed, there is. It's your macintosh hd partition, formatted as mac os10 extended journaled, with a size of your entire disk. What you want to have, is not 1 big partition of 500
Re: Questionabout Super Doopper and external drives
I would like to learn how to install lion as a virtual machine too, please. I am wanting to do this on my office. Any help would be apreciate it! And could I just install the current snow I ahve, plus the lion up grade, or would I have to buy from scrach? Thanks, RM On Sep 14, 2011, at 2:05 PM, Paul Erkens wrote: Hi Bill Holton, You're right. Running Lion inside a vm is a good solution if you don't want to upgrade from snow leopard yet. I'm running Lion to my full satisfaction and it's running natively. The sandbox is a breeze to work with once you get the hang of it. It took me the reading of a chapter in de super duper manual, and I was ready to go. I've never attempted to set up anything else than windows inside a virtual environment in fusion myself yet. Interested to hear how you succeed. Paul. On Sep 14, 2011, at 8:47 PM, Bill Holton wrote: I'm thinking a virtual Lion could make a nice sandbox for testing, and if I screw something up I can just delete the virtual machine and set up a new one. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Erkens Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 2:23 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Questionabout Super Doopper and external drives Hi Bill Holton, Both sandboxing and running Lion inside vm fusion requires some system maintanance. Why would you want to run lion as a virtual machine by the way? Why not just natively? Paul. On Sep 14, 2011, at 8:07 PM, Bill Holton wrote: Thanks for these great instructions. It looks like the new version of VM Fusion will allow me to run Lion as a virtual machine, which sounds like it will be easier than sandboxing. But I do need to partition and format my coming USB HD so the instructions are no less appreciated. Thanks. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Erkens Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 1:13 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Questionabout Super Doopper and external drives Hi Bill Holton, You can repartition an external drive, and create both a fat32 windows partition and a mac os 10 extended journaled one with mac disk utility. You can then use the fat32 partition to share data between windows and the mac, and you can use the os10 partition to maintain a backup of everything on your mac. Let's begin by looking at how to resize your macintosh hd partition and have a sandbox beside it. It involves a few steps which I'll describe below. Not key by key though. I'll assume that you have some mac knowledge, but just don't know where to go yet, and in what order. Here you go. First open disk utility, to carefully inspect your current configuration so that you know what you will be changing.. To do this, Go into the finder, say, your desktop, and press command shift u from there. This will open your utilities folder. Here, find disk utility dot app, and open it. In the disk table on the left, interact, and look at your current disk configuration. You need to know a few things before you go do something here. A disk is just a disk, and you cannot use it directly. It needs to have a partition to hold the file system, inside of which you can store files. There are many file systems, one of them is fat32, and another is mac os10 extended journaled. A filesystem lives inside a partition, so the partition is the container for the file system on the disk. From the disk perspective, you first have an empty disk. Then you create a partition on the disk, spanning all or only part of the disk size. As you are creating the new partition, you must choose which file system is going to live inside it, because The partition must be formatted for use with the type of file system that you want to use. In other words, the way you format your partition, becomes a property of the partition. So, on your external usb drive, you can have a fat32 partition, and a mac os10 partition, and you can have 2 separate mac os 10 extended journaled partitions on your internal mac hard drive. In both cases, You then just allocate one bit to the first partition, and the rest of the disk space to the other. You do this by setting the size text fields inside disk utility. See below. Once inside disk utility on the mac, you will see your hard disk as the brand of physical disk inside the machine, for example Hitachi 500gb. This item in the disk table is usually expanded, meaning there can be something inside it. And indeed, there is. It's your macintosh hd partition, formatted as mac os10 extended journaled, with a size of your entire disk. What you want to have, is not 1 big partition of 500 or 320 gb, what have you, but you would like to shrink the os10 partition and make it 20 gb smaller. You will use these 20 gigabytes for the sandbox partition.
Re: Laptop / Bluetooth vs. Standard Keyboard
I do agree Scott! I love key board commanders. But track pad commanders is the reason I would not like to ever go back to windows! :)reason Yeah, although if Microsoft ever hired me, I would have to rethink it! hahaha Rachel. On Sep 14, 2011, at 5:33 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Hey Rachel, I also use an MBP; however, I do typically use an external keyboard, but mainly since the machine is sitting on the desk. I believe with all the commanders available, it almost negates the need for the VO command. :) Well not quite, but getting close. What do you think? On Sep 13, 2011, at 11:28 PM, Rachel magario wrote: Hey Scott, haha The joke was for you! but the Question for Keith, I was asking about his type of keyboard. I am also an MBP user! :) So I am glad my nightmare was short! :) Cheers, Rachel. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Laptop / Bluetooth vs. Standard Keyboard
Oh no, then I will have to get used to something else? Oh no! :) :) :) Just kidding, I believe it makes sense what you are saying. But Mac has a lot of keyboard shortcuts and options, so I think that is why they made vo keys to be a combination to insure no conflicts and also no overlaps, so we could also enjoy of mac native or customizable shortcut keys. But I am with you, one key would work well! Although, I confess more and more I go away for the regular vo keys. Cheers, Rachel On Sep 14, 2011, at 5:52 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: If you ask me, they should just get rid of the VO command all together. I think just assigning 1 modifier key as your VO key would be a lot more efficient. For example, I rather press caps left or right arrow than control option left or right arrow. Especially since all macs come with a keyboard with only 1 control key by default now. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Sep 14, 2011, at 6:33 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Hey Rachel, I also use an MBP; however, I do typically use an external keyboard, but mainly since the machine is sitting on the desk. I believe with all the commanders available, it almost negates the need for the VO command. :) Well not quite, but getting close. What do you think? On Sep 13, 2011, at 11:28 PM, Rachel magario wrote: Hey Scott, haha The joke was for you! but the Question for Keith, I was asking about his type of keyboard. I am also an MBP user! :) So I am glad my nightmare was short! :) Cheers, Rachel. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Laptop / Bluetooth vs. Standard Keyboard
that is what I thought, thanks Mike! On Sep 14, 2011, at 6:56 PM, james Walton wrote: no no not all apple keyboards have 1 control key the wired version has 2 the wireless has 1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VMWare Fusion 4 is out and accessible
Amen! On Sep 14, 2011, at 7:07 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: I will see about the upgrade as soon as I finish with email, I'm glad fusion continues to be accessible, since paralels refuses to make their application work with voiceover. Even when sighted people ask me which program to get I suggest fusion, I will not help to support a company who has been made aware of accessibility issues and refuses to fix them, which is the case with paralels. On Sep 14, 2011, at 12:34 PM, matthew Campbell wrote: The new fusion is a 64 Bit coco application which means that it will supposedly run faster. I'd go to they're web site and check out the features they outline on the product page. Personally, I find it runs a little faster. What I did was sign up for a 30 day trial. I'm going to go and buy it as soon as I get home after class. It'll be worth the $50 I think but you can't go wrong with a 30 day trial. Hope this helps. On 9/14/11, Mika Pyyhkala pyyhk...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, What are the main differences and/or benefits that people see with this new version 4? Does it have any enhancements for Lion? Best, Mika On 9/14/11, Jeff Bishop j...@jeffbishop.com wrote: You will be emailed within 30 days with the new license code for version 4 if you bought it off of their site. If you bought a boxed version you must call them and discuss I think. 1.877.486.9273 -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Holton Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 9:44 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: VMWare Fusion 4 is out and accessible Did they say how we can get the upgrade? -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Bishop Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 12:38 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: VMWare Fusion 4 is out and accessible Only after July 20, 2011. I just called them. Very unfortunate. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of james Walton Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 9:22 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion 4 is out and accessible any one who bought v3 in july and up, can get 4 for free http://www.macrumors.com/2011/09/14/lion-optimized-vmware-fusion-4-debuts-wi th-over-90-new-features/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Matthew Campbell -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options,
Re: not able to edit pages document?
Jessica, I am not sure if anyone helped you yet, but here are some suggestions. try using command a for selecting all and paste it on a text edit to work in there instead, Just for deadline sake. I am ast minute kind of person, when it comes down to homeworks! :) If that does not work, check if you have your nav quick keys on or off, to edited in pages you want to be interacting with the body of the document and have your quick nav off. when the keys are on sometimes it gives me trouble. Another thing I can think of is restart your computer and your pages, see if that does it. cant think of any thing else, without more information. did you up dated something or some change went on between the last time you opened and now? HTH, Rachel On Sep 14, 2011, at 9:38 PM, Jessica and Goldina wrote: hey guys I have kind of a situation here. I'm working on my homework, due tomorrow. yeah yeah…don't judge me lol. I started working on it the other day in pages. today I opened it and went to work on it and I can't write or delete anything from the document. I went over to the versions menu and the document is not locked. I tried locking and unlocking it and it still won't let me edit it. anyone have any quick suggestions? this is really frustrating! I'd think that if I came back to a document a couple days later I'd be able to edit it. peace and positivity Jessica and Goldina follow me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/canadian_diva -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Laptop / Bluetooth vs. Standard Keyboard
I agree, but I also think we should be able to customize it, by vo and even by software, go that I want to use google short cut key and there is conflict. But maybe that is an over kill! Is ok, I am that way! :) On Sep 14, 2011, at 9:41 PM, Garth Humphreys wrote: Hi I couldn't agree more. We should definately be able to configure the caps lock as the VO keys. Not because this is the way that other screen readers do it but because it is in my opinion a smart way of having it. The caps lock key is for most people hardly ever used. With googles chrome OS they have changed the caps lock key to a search key because they recognise the waste of space on the keyboard that the caps lock key currently represents On 15/09/2011, at 8:52 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: If you ask me, they should just get rid of the VO command all together. I think just assigning 1 modifier key as your VO key would be a lot more efficient. For example, I rather press caps left or right arrow than control option left or right arrow. Especially since all macs come with a keyboard with only 1 control key by default now. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Sep 14, 2011, at 6:33 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Hey Rachel, I also use an MBP; however, I do typically use an external keyboard, but mainly since the machine is sitting on the desk. I believe with all the commanders available, it almost negates the need for the VO command. :) Well not quite, but getting close. What do you think? On Sep 13, 2011, at 11:28 PM, Rachel magario wrote: Hey Scott, haha The joke was for you! but the Question for Keith, I was asking about his type of keyboard. I am also an MBP user! :) So I am glad my nightmare was short! :) Cheers, Rachel. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: subscribing googlegroup without account?
Hi Anouk, I have checked for a long time on this. But it used to be that if your email was different than gmail all you had to do was to open a google account with your none gmail and sign up with whatever domainj email you have. So in short it is possible with whatever email, as long as you attach that email to a google account. Sort of the same concept of certifying your passport for your none hotmail email in msn. HTH, Rachel On Sep 14, 2011, at 10:42 PM, Anouk Radix wrote: Hi, I sometimes have people interested in mac products and i either want to point them to this list or viphone. But, is it possible to these lists if you dont have either a google or gmail account, through email like you can do with a yahoogroup? Thanks in advance, Greetings, Anouk, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: stopping adium from reading incoming messages
Cool, mine does that, just the sound, it drives me crazy. how do I config to make it read the way you don't want? Sweet! Rachel On Sep 14, 2011, at 11:00 PM, Anouk Radix wrote: Hi, Adium standard reads incomng messages to me via growl. I dont like this, i just want adium to play a sound instead. However I would like adium to announce to me when people sign on or off. Is it possible in growl to turn reading incoming meassages of? Greetings, Anouk, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Amazon Subscribe and Save Weirdness
Dan I was using snow, let me try with lion and I get back with you. oh and the up and down is when you are with quick naves and it says for example crea new and save I have to use the up or down arrow because when I am going side ways it says create new adn save, but if I use up arrown it will tell me just save or just create new and then I can click by using both up and down at once. hope it make sense! On Sep 12, 2011, at 11:17 PM, Dan Roy wrote: I tried quick nab but, I don't understand the arrow up and down thing? clicking the links with quicknav on had no effect at all. On Sep 12, 2011, at 7:19 AM, Rachel magario wrote: dan, I am not sure if this will work, but when I run in to this problems, usually it is two links that is set up at the same level and vo cannot focus in either. What works for me, is instead of just navigating through the vo u rotor or the regular navigation. I turn on the quick nav key and navigate the link or button or whatever it is with the arrow keys and once I find the one I want, just press on it with up and down arrow key together. Hope this helps you too. Rachel. On Sep 11, 2011, at 11:59 PM, Dan Roy wrote: Ok, this is odd indeed. I am using Lion 7.1. when I go to amazon subscribe and save, I can't change or edit any of my orders. The links are there, but, when I attempt to click on change, edit billing and or shipping info etc. nothing happens. However, if I turn off VO, then, they work just fine. So, I turn off VO, hit enter to click on change, then, turn VO back on and it works fine. The other links on amazon, at least, as far as I know work just fine. I have tried, just enter, VO-spacebar and even vo-shift-spacebar. Any ideas on this weird behavior. This happens on both Safari and the latest build of Webkit. Any ideas or suggestions would be most helpful, thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: solving visual captchas with mac and safari
Hmm, I think it would be. That would bridge some security issues. Does everyone have issue with the numbers that have backgrownd sound, such as the ones google uses? I have to change and request a different file, but I notice the same happens with sighted people, loads of time an image is to complicated and they have to request a different one to get it right. I guess that is the whole point, it is not suppose to be easy! :) It would be interesting to do some research of the most effective sounds for us and also difficult enough for machines to crack. RM On Sep 13, 2011, at 8:36 AM, Chris Blouch wrote: Wonder how that holds up to a speech recognition like Dragon? If it's easy for you it might be easy for an algorithm. CB On 9/12/11 11:05 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: Personally, I don't think that audio captchas aren't that bad. For example, when I used the OS whose name we can't say, when I wanted to demo the Acapela voices, they gave me both a visual and audio captcha to choose from. The Audio Captcha used Acapela Heather to speak the numbers so I could easily solve the puzzle and begin my demo. I think more and more companies should use a speech synthesizer like Acapela does to solve their captchas, though I'm pretty sure that it's all about money. Oh well. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Laptop / Bluetooth vs. Standard Keyboard
Keith, I think it is just what you get used too. I never had a standard keyboard before and at work even the iMacs all have laptop bluetooth ones too. The track pad does help a lot and make life so much better free of so much keyboard short cuts. Rachel On Sep 13, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Ishe Chinyoka wrote: Here I just got used to it. I switched to Mac and started using Macbook, so I have no problem with it. In fact, I make use of the Trackpad heavily in cases where the need for VO keys is called for. On 13 Sep,2011, at 3:03 PM, Keith Watson wrote: Hi all, Just a quick question about how you MBP / MBA / Bluetooth Keyboard owners deal with not having your VO keys on the right hand side of the keyboard. I was updating my daughters MB last night and found it to be a pain in the butt not having them available. Thanks, Keith Watson 813-760-1381 Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
choosing items to a play list
Hi everyone, I can create a play list in itunes, but I don't find how to choose the music for my play list. any help? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
mail on lion
Ok, I need help. My mail in lion is going crazy. I can no longer tab to my mail boxes, to interact with messages and see just the collum of subject, or date, or from. I can only see all at once who sent subject and time then when I navigate with arrows or tab I change to the message content and then back to the message list. This is all I get with either tabs or arrows. I can no longer find the search field, the notes, to do mail activity and so on. Any body had the same issue and how did you solve it? Thanks for any help. Rachel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: getting pictures from iPhone to mac
Anouk, Also if you use drop box, I use pic box is an application and that gets my iphone camera row to my drop box, then I just use it on my computer too. Lots of choices! Rachel On Sep 13, 2011, at 11:50 AM, Anouk Radix wrote: Hi Chris, Thanks for all this info. What is the difference between using image capture and iphoto, do you know? Greetings, Anouk, On Sep 13, 2011, at 5:55 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: I think iPhoto should just come up when you plug your phone into your mac. After gemonjulating for a while it will eventually bring up an import screen with an Import All button. You can then pull an images you want from the Photos folder. There should be a file called iPhoto Library which you can do a contextual menu on (VO-shift-M) and choose show package contents. Inside there will be a number of folders including one called Masters. In there you will find all your photos organized into folders named by year. Within a year are folders for each month and within each month is a folder for each day that you imported something. Within a day folder will be some weird named folder like 20110913-114743 which is really the date and time all run together. In this case it is 2011 09 13 (today) at 11:47 and 43 seconds AM which is the last time I imported images from my phone. Inside there will be all the JPEG and Movie files from your last import. those are just numbered files which increment each time a new image or movie is created. Hope this helps. CB On 9/12/11 6:22 AM, Anouk Radix wrote: Hello, I am not too familiar or wellversed in itunes. On the pc I let someone make pictures with my iphone and transported them to the pc with the scanner and camera wizard htat could put them all in a folder with your desired name of choice. Is something like this also possible with the mac or will I have to use itunes for this? Thanks, Greetings, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: choosing items to a play list
thanks Colin! On Sep 13, 2011, at 10:03 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: Hi Rachel! When in your list of tunes! Select the ones to add to one of your play lists and open vo+shift+m and in there is a add to play list sub menu arrow into that and pick which play list you want and vo space on it and they'll be added! Also you can make a new play list by selecting tracks and then use command+shift+N and then you name it and that will be another list for you! Colin On 13 Sep 2011, at 15:26, Rachel magario wrote: Hi everyone, I can create a play list in itunes, but I don't find how to choose the music for my play list. any help? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Laptop / Bluetooth vs. Standard Keyboard
You are such a nice friend Scott! ha ha ha I think, I might have had a friend like you who scrubbed mine uncovered skills too. I think I might have to hunt down whoever it was, to recover them! ;) Now seriously, I thought the option and control in the standard were in both sides, correct Keith? So we could use vo in the right or in the left depending upon the need. Am i right, or was just a dream? Please, don't judge me so hard if it was a dream. :) I never touched one, so I don't claim full responsibility! :) out of the tip of the finger, out of mind. But not free from the imagination! ha ha ha RM On Sep 13, 2011, at 3:27 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Gee Keith I do just fine. Its called using those undiscovered skills in being flexible. Of course over all the years I have known you I have tried really hard to scrub those undiscovered skills from your rusting brainpan. So, I apparently have partially succeeded. AIn't it nice to have friends? So, on a serious note,, how do you use the VO keys on the right side in conjunction with the VO commands? FOr example, can you perform a VO-l using the VO keys on the right side of the keyboard? If so, I am impressed. Maybe that is not what you intended. :) On Sep 13, 2011, at 9:03 AM, Keith Watson wrote: Hi all, Just a quick question about how you MBP / MBA / Bluetooth Keyboard owners deal with not having your VO keys on the right hand side of the keyboard. I was updating my daughters MB last night and found it to be a pain in the butt not having them available. Thanks, Keith Watson 813-760-1381 Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Laptop / Bluetooth vs. Standard Keyboard
Hey Scott, haha The joke was for you! but the Question for Keith, I was asking about his type of keyboard. I am also an MBP user! :) So I am glad my nightmare was short! :) Cheers, Rachel. On Sep 13, 2011, at 5:18 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Hey Rachel, Yep, me is a skill thief.:) No, the control key is only on the left. So,not a dream, but a nightmare and worse yet, I am not Keith. :) Scott Howell Sent from my iPad On Sep 13, 2011, at 17:23, Rachel magario maga...@gmail.com wrote: You are such a nice friend Scott! ha ha ha I think, I might have had a friend like you who scrubbed mine uncovered skills too. I think I might have to hunt down whoever it was, to recover them! ;) Now seriously, I thought the option and control in the standard were in both sides, correct Keith? So we could use vo in the right or in the left depending upon the need. Am i right, or was just a dream? Please, don't judge me so hard if it was a dream. :) I never touched one, so I don't claim full responsibility! :) out of the tip of the finger, out of mind. But not free from the imagination! ha ha ha RM On Sep 13, 2011, at 3:27 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Gee Keith I do just fine. Its called using those undiscovered skills in being flexible. Of course over all the years I have known you I have tried really hard to scrub those undiscovered skills from your rusting brainpan. So, I apparently have partially succeeded. AIn't it nice to have friends? So, on a serious note,, how do you use the VO keys on the right side in conjunction with the VO commands? FOr example, can you perform a VO-l using the VO keys on the right side of the keyboard? If so, I am impressed. Maybe that is not what you intended. :) On Sep 13, 2011, at 9:03 AM, Keith Watson wrote: Hi all, Just a quick question about how you MBP / MBA / Bluetooth Keyboard owners deal with not having your VO keys on the right hand side of the keyboard. I was updating my daughters MB last night and found it to be a pain in the butt not having them available. Thanks, Keith Watson 813-760-1381 Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: help with itunes
Awesome, thanks Anne! My library is back! youhoo! Now could you help me making playlists and I also don't figure out yet how to put play lists to my iPod touch. I want to put music and daisy files, but I don't get how. every time it tells me if I want to sink it will replace eevery thing, i canccel. Once I managed to put some of my audible books in there, but I tried to sink the music later and it just took every thing out so there was no music or audible books. thanks for any help, Rachel. On Sep 10, 2011, at 4:46 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Rachel, First of all, I assume you opened iTunes from the Dock by pressing VO-Space. This is a bad idea as it often takes the Option key as an instruction to ask for a new iTunes library. Always open apps from the Dock with Return to avoid this problem. Now, to fix your issue, open iTunes while holding down the Option key and you should find your iTunes library in the choice of folders. Don't worry, your music isn't lost. Cheers, Anne On 10 Sep 2011, at 10:05, Rachel magario wrote: Hello everyone, I am embarrassed to say, but I am about to give up on itunes! :) I try and try, but nothing, I am starting to think it does not like me! :) Ok here is the last issue. I opened itunes and asked me for a library, I just moved my arrows to check was available and it chose a folder called audio books, the issue is in there there are only 3 files. Now, no matter what I do, every time itunes opens it is sellectedon that library, my old library was just called rachel music where all my musics are. I went to preference, there says my library is rachel music still. But the 20 gb of stuff I had is gone from my itunes. If I go to my music folder every thing is still there, anyone knows what is going on? Thanks for any help, hope someone can make my day! Rachel. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Amazon Subscribe and Save Weirdness
dan, I am not sure if this will work, but when I run in to this problems, usually it is two links that is set up at the same level and vo cannot focus in either. What works for me, is instead of just navigating through the vo u rotor or the regular navigation. I turn on the quick nav key and navigate the link or button or whatever it is with the arrow keys and once I find the one I want, just press on it with up and down arrow key together. Hope this helps you too. Rachel. On Sep 11, 2011, at 11:59 PM, Dan Roy wrote: Ok, this is odd indeed. I am using Lion 7.1. when I go to amazon subscribe and save, I can't change or edit any of my orders. The links are there, but, when I attempt to click on change, edit billing and or shipping info etc. nothing happens. However, if I turn off VO, then, they work just fine. So, I turn off VO, hit enter to click on change, then, turn VO back on and it works fine. The other links on amazon, at least, as far as I know work just fine. I have tried, just enter, VO-spacebar and even vo-shift-spacebar. Any ideas on this weird behavior. This happens on both Safari and the latest build of Webkit. Any ideas or suggestions would be most helpful, thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: making a website on the mac?
Anouk, Are you going to be changing your content in a regular bases? Most pages now do, so if you are, I suggest you use word press. Even though it is a bloging platform, can also be used as a regular web page builder. In addition, the learning curve to learn the system is not big at all. It is also fairly accessible, not 100%, but decent. If I remember correct, web.com was fairly accessible, but I have not used that in a while. The issue there is I think I couldn't use my own domain, probably that is why I left. I am sure by now this must be an option. Iweb, can be used, but requires sighted help to learn the environment and take loads of memorization. Plus the audio feedback for the visual display is almost none. I would say, to much trouble for little return. Also the templates have no names, just random numbers. I have not tried dream weaver in the mac yet, But if it is like most adobe products I need to use, not much joy in there. Although the old dreamweaver 8 in windows let you do simple pages with jaws without a whole lots of issues. But requires lots of attention of where you put your mouse. I would never up load a page without visual feedback first, just in case. Cant tell you how cs5 works with either mac or windows. HTH, Rachel On Sep 12, 2011, at 1:10 AM, Anouk Radix wrote: Thanks a great deal. I will try it. I basically need some kind of wizard interface which allows you to create a webpage even when you don't know html. Thanks, Greetings, Anouk, On Sep 12, 2011, at 4:13 AM, Jon Cohn wrote: Sorry for the additional post, my last one was a bit unclear. There is a program called sandvox sandbox but the b as in bravo has been changed to a v as in Victor. This program seems to allow some interesting HTNL editing, but I did not spend much time on it. You can download it for free, and I believe it is shareware. Jonathan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: solving visual captchas with mac and safari
Eric and all following this thread, I am not sure why they think that. Perhaps, because it is claimed to be the most accessible for jaws and for orca too? Also it is not owned my apple or Microsoft. The volunteers who work for open source, usually dislike the oppressive proprietary companies. The only strange thing is that if they want open source free software to the reach of all, I don't understand why they would dismiss Adrian and other who have requested accessibility for screen readers. I understand not wanting to budge to the impositions of apple standards, but is sort of dismiss the purpose of open source for everyone, doesn't it? We are part of the all! ;) Also, I am not sure of the accessibility of mozilla, having to have a webvisiom and use aria and all that, seems to complicated sometimes. I am the type of person who likes to use it right out of the box, like the Iphone! :) I don't mean to be disrespectful for people's efforts. In the contrary I am very grateful. However, in my profession of interaction designer, I realize businesses and everyone is looking for more intuitive services and systems. The more competitions the harder everyone work at it. But it if interesting, how for screen readers and other assistive tech, the field looks very different, it is not about making it easier and more intuitive all the time. A lot of the time is not even considered by big corporations other than apple, or we are always talking about making a new gadget, or a new product to substitute something that have several versions out there and all we need is for them to be accessible, Just like apple did, perhaps vo is not perfect yet, but we know apple cares enough for keeping on fixing bugs and improving our products as they improve for the rest of the world. Then I think, what if some day Apple becomes our only choice because nobody could could survive as small assistive tech companies and the people at apple did not care as much any more? I mean, I don't think that would ever happened, but my point is, what if the next great phone was red berry and that become the standard in companies, and no built in screen reader, then we go back to the having to built a third party software that does not work out of the box and have a huge learning curve. I just wish there was a way to make other people see that competition is good and pays off. I mean, how long have we fought with Amazon to make kindle accessible? I mean not even their iPhone app is accessible, and every thing is there for them, the screen reader, it is just a matter of coding right. Ok, i talked to much already. Respectfully, Rachel On Sep 12, 2011, at 3:04 AM, Aide wrote: Guys, I am fed up of audio captcha. My Member of Parliament currently has a question in to the UK Prime Minister about use of audio capcha on government websites. I know it's a drag, but we need to challenge these things every time we come across them. I was on a site the other day which had a simple equation instead of an audio captcha. It was a joy. BTW, I love the bit where it says the audio captcha is to test whether or not you are a human being. I always write to them saying that, despite the fact that I can't see, I am nevertheless a human. Cheers Adrienne On Sep 11, 9:05 pm, Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com wrote: I find that rather interesting. now why would the general public (and business professionals) get the impression that mozilla was the most accessible web browser for any OS? sure it works well with windoweeyes and jaws in the windows platform. it also works mostly with orca in linux. it does not work at all in OS X with voiceover (and I have even tried growl with it and still had a lot of issues). I have sent more than a few emails over the last few years and all I get back is nothing but a load of crapola and finger pointing. now I know we can't prevail upon a bunch of volunteer code monkeys and still have them do the work. if they were paid and we wrote the checks, that would certainly be a different case. -Eric On Sep 11, 2011, at 12:43 AM, Rachel magario wrote: the sad part is that loads of programers think firefox is the most accessible browser out there. They get shocked to find it does not work on the mac. I recall a programer at my work insisted that I should use mozilla. Only after he tried using it with vo by him self, was when the message got across! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries
Re: making a website on the mac?
Anouk, You don't need to have a blog name on the web site, it can look just like a web site, no body will even know that word press is hosting it. Do you have a domain and a server? If you want more info on this, I can help you, just write to me off list, since I don't want to make huge threads about how to make simple web site, might be a bit out off topic? I mean, if others are interested that is fine, but I am not sure, if this falls list guidelines, i confess I did not read the rules! ;) Rachel On Sep 12, 2011, at 9:52 AM, Anouk Radix wrote: Hey, thanks a lot, i think i will indeed end up doing somehting like wordpress. I would not like though having a blogging name in the website url, still its probbably the easiest. Greetings, Anouk, On Sep 12, 2011, at 2:41 PM, Rachel magario wrote: Anouk, Are you going to be changing your content in a regular bases? Most pages now do, so if you are, I suggest you use word press. Even though it is a bloging platform, can also be used as a regular web page builder. In addition, the learning curve to learn the system is not big at all. It is also fairly accessible, not 100%, but decent. If I remember correct, web.com was fairly accessible, but I have not used that in a while. The issue there is I think I couldn't use my own domain, probably that is why I left. I am sure by now this must be an option. Iweb, can be used, but requires sighted help to learn the environment and take loads of memorization. Plus the audio feedback for the visual display is almost none. I would say, to much trouble for little return. Also the templates have no names, just random numbers. I have not tried dream weaver in the mac yet, But if it is like most adobe products I need to use, not much joy in there. Although the old dreamweaver 8 in windows let you do simple pages with jaws without a whole lots of issues. But requires lots of attention of where you put your mouse. I would never up load a page without visual feedback first, just in case. Cant tell you how cs5 works with either mac or windows. HTH, Rachel On Sep 12, 2011, at 1:10 AM, Anouk Radix wrote: Thanks a great deal. I will try it. I basically need some kind of wizard interface which allows you to create a webpage even when you don't know html. Thanks, Greetings, Anouk, On Sep 12, 2011, at 4:13 AM, Jon Cohn wrote: Sorry for the additional post, my last one was a bit unclear. There is a program called sandvox sandbox but the b as in bravo has been changed to a v as in Victor. This program seems to allow some interesting HTNL editing, but I did not spend much time on it. You can download it for free, and I believe it is shareware. Jonathan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: going to beginning or end of document in pages
Interact with the body of the document and then use fn vo shift plus left or right arrow, depending upon if you want the start or the end. this is for laptop key board, not desk top I believe just vo plus home and end does it? Not sure on that though. Rachel. On Sep 12, 2011, at 6:47 AM, Anouk Radix wrote: Hi everyone, How can i go to the beginning or the end of a document in pages, i thought fn+left and right arrow would do it but htat doesnt get me there. Thanks in advance Greetings, Anouk, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: pages and websites
Excellent, let me know if you need hosting too, I can probably guide you to the most accessible one. Cheers, Rachel. On Sep 12, 2011, at 10:14 AM, Anouk Radix wrote: Hey, thanks this is really cool news, i will write you off list once i found where i can see osmones email address in mail. Oh i remembered how to do the hting in pages command-up and i presume ocmmand-down is for end of document. Once i started reading documents it came back to me. At first i had difficulty reading documents with my braille display but you just have tointeract once with the document and then it is fine. Greetings, Anouk, On Sep 12, 2011, at 5:00 PM, Rachel magario wrote: Anouk, You don't need to have a blog name on the web site, it can look just like a web site, no body will even know that word press is hosting it. Do you have a domain and a server? If you want more info on this, I can help you, just write to me off list, since I don't want to make huge threads about how to make simple web site, might be a bit out off topic? I mean, if others are interested that is fine, but I am not sure, if this falls list guidelines, i confess I did not read the rules! ;) Rachel On Sep 12, 2011, at 9:52 AM, Anouk Radix wrote: Hey, thanks a lot, i think i will indeed end up doing somehting like wordpress. I would not like though having a blogging name in the website url, still its probbably the easiest. Greetings, Anouk, On Sep 12, 2011, at 2:41 PM, Rachel magario wrote: Anouk, Are you going to be changing your content in a regular bases? Most pages now do, so if you are, I suggest you use word press. Even though it is a bloging platform, can also be used as a regular web page builder. In addition, the learning curve to learn the system is not big at all. It is also fairly accessible, not 100%, but decent. If I remember correct, web.com was fairly accessible, but I have not used that in a while. The issue there is I think I couldn't use my own domain, probably that is why I left. I am sure by now this must be an option. Iweb, can be used, but requires sighted help to learn the environment and take loads of memorization. Plus the audio feedback for the visual display is almost none. I would say, to much trouble for little return. Also the templates have no names, just random numbers. I have not tried dream weaver in the mac yet, But if it is like most adobe products I need to use, not much joy in there. Although the old dreamweaver 8 in windows let you do simple pages with jaws without a whole lots of issues. But requires lots of attention of where you put your mouse. I would never up load a page without visual feedback first, just in case. Cant tell you how cs5 works with either mac or windows. HTH, Rachel On Sep 12, 2011, at 1:10 AM, Anouk Radix wrote: Thanks a great deal. I will try it. I basically need some kind of wizard interface which allows you to create a webpage even when you don't know html. Thanks, Greetings, Anouk, On Sep 12, 2011, at 4:13 AM, Jon Cohn wrote: Sorry for the additional post, my last one was a bit unclear. There is a program called sandvox sandbox but the b as in bravo has been changed to a v as in Victor. This program seems to allow some interesting HTNL editing, but I did not spend much time on it. You can download it for free, and I believe it is shareware. Jonathan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you
Re: solving visual captchas with mac and safari
Agree Chris, I work with developers every day, as well ass with the business side. the true is that there is always things to implement. but I really think the matter is philosophical, if in matter of principal accessibility was there as a principal from the start of RND and in the business side and in the design/development process from the conception, accessibility would be less of a burden and not a matter of adding on. I am just glad Apple chose to have accessibility as both a Marketing strategy as a rnd principal. Hope others would take a similar approach. Cheer up, Rachel On Sep 12, 2011, at 2:15 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: As I had mentioned in previous emails, the root issue is a philisophical one. Good app developers want to write their code once. So when it came to accessibility the Mozilla folks went to the open standard IAccessible2 APIs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAccessible2 That way any platform that went with this standard would get accessibility and any platform could implement the standard if they wanted to. So Windows and Linux did and Mozilla's apps are accessible there. Apple has implemented their own accessibility API and basically told Mozilla to re-implement to Apple's standards. Mozilla has refused saying Apple should just implement IAccessible2. And so here we are with no accessibility because both sides insist the other needs to do the work. I can't really blame Mozilla for saying Apple should implement the open APIs for accessibility. At the same time I'm sure Apple thinks their APIs are better and Mozilla just needs to get with the program if they want to join the Apple ecosphere. Not sure how many of you have actually worked with developers to get them to do stuff to make their apps accessible but I'd say most just devs are unaware or it isn't as high a priority as just getting the new features done. I assume both Apple and Mozilla's engineers are of a similar bent that they have 50 features to implement with time for only 10 and coming to them with requests to drop more features to work on accessibility is a tough sell. That said, Mozilla is open source so anyone who wants to could do the coding. I think IBM funneled some money to Mozilla to make the IAccessible2 stuff happen and I imagine Apple could do the same, but probably wont. CB On 9/11/11 4:05 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: I find that rather interesting. now why would the general public (and business professionals) get the impression that mozilla was the most accessible web browser for any OS? sure it works well with windoweeyes and jaws in the windows platform. it also works mostly with orca in linux. it does not work at all in OS X with voiceover (and I have even tried growl with it and still had a lot of issues). I have sent more than a few emails over the last few years and all I get back is nothing but a load of crapola and finger pointing. now I know we can't prevail upon a bunch of volunteer code monkeys and still have them do the work. if they were paid and we wrote the checks, that would certainly be a different case. -Eric On Sep 11, 2011, at 12:43 AM, Rachel magario wrote: the sad part is that loads of programers think firefox is the most accessible browser out there. They get shocked to find it does not work on the mac. I recall a programer at my work insisted that I should use mozilla. Only after he tried using it with vo by him self, was when the message got across! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: solving visual captchas with mac and safari
same of what happened to me. going to try crom next. thanks, Rachel On Sep 12, 2011, at 2:04 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: Just downloaded and tried Opera 11.51 and didn't get very far. On really simple test pages I could navigate to some items but on others I got busy, VO crash or seemed to get stuck or just say empty web area when it should have been reading content. So that was a waste of time. WebAIM describes Opera as 'limited support' http://webaim.org/articles/voiceover/ Is it possible to share the URLs you are having the crashes on? CB On 9/11/11 3:28 AM, Rachel magario wrote: Chris, Have you used opera? I installed, but could not make it read pages, I can read the bar and stuff, but not page content, do you think I might be missing some information? Also, I have the webkit installed, and safari keeps on crashing in several pages I need to view when hovering over a certain type of content that I cannot pin down exactly what it is. But if I use a sighted people's mac that does not have any thing, safari does not seem to crash in the same pages. Do you think it is one of those cases, of things that are broken with the webkit? Thanks, Rachel. On Sep 10, 2011, at 9:22 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: Safari is the primary browser for OSX but some people have found that the nightly build of Webkit (the engine of Safari)vhas less issues. Of course nightly build means each day some stuff is fixed but other stuff might be broken. You might also try Chrome which is supposed to be accessible with voiceover as well as Opera. I wrote a while ago about the problem with competing accessibility API standards which is why Firefox and Flash will not be accessible on Mac (they chose one standard and Apple chose to make their own). Same thing with Thunderbird email client. CB On 9/10/11 9:06 PM, Christine Grassman wrote: Great. I was thinking of trying Firefox, because I'm bloody sick of hearing Safari busy -- particularly when I'm on my bank's web site paying my bills. What are others using besides SAfari? On Sep 10, 2011, at 8:56 PM, Jon Cohn wrote: Well, I have managed to avoid these things, but if it helps keyboard commander is set up by default in Snow Leopard to have left-option-X send the image in the VOICE-OVER cursor via mail. Best wishes, Jonathan On Sep 10, 2011, at 3:55 PM, Anouk Radix wrote: Hi everyone, On the pc I could solve visual only captchas with either solona and ie (but often there was no operator online) or webvisum and firefox. Is there a way to solve visual captchas as a blind person on the mac? As far as I know firefox is still not accessible on the mac. Thanks in advance Greetings, Anouk, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: solving visual captchas with mac and safari
I second that. We cannot nearly request that security be lowered for our sake. I believe your explanations are very educative, specially to those who are not aware of the difficulties developers face. However, I feel there is a place also for the expression of the frustrations with in reason, because is from those frustrations that designers can understand unmet needs. The ideas and potential solutions can only spring from good conversations such as the one we are having.! I love this list. Never seen more civilize people working together. Only harmony can bring productive results, and I think it is awesome having awesome knowledge as everyone here with their experiences. Thanks Chris and every one. Keep your comments coming! Cheer up, RM On Sep 12, 2011, at 2:39 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: It all comes down to the purpose of captcha. It is a cognitive test by supplying a puzzle that would be difficult for a computer to solve to try and prove you're not a bot. Today there are very few of those kinds of puzzles. Image and audio recognition are about the only two that haven't been cracked and it's turned into an arms race. Eventually the algorithms will be sophisticated enough that they will either mimic human behavior undetectably or the cognitive load to solve the captchas will increase to the point where real people can't solve them (already happening). Either scenario ends badly for those trying to protect the integrity of their content sites. In the meantime, just saying the current stuff doesn't work doesn't help because nobody has come up with a better solution. Anything that lowers the puzzle difficulty also makes it easier for the algorithms to solve. Some previous discussions on this list: http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss@macvisionaries.com/msg43663.html CB On 9/12/11 4:04 AM, Adie wrote: Guys, I am fed up of audio captcha. My Member of Parliament currently has a question in to the UK Prime Minister about use of audio capcha on government websites. I know it's a drag, but we need to challenge these things every time we come across them. I was on a site the other day which had a simple equation instead of an audio captcha. It was a joy. BTW, I love the bit where it says the audio captcha is to test whether or not you are a human being. I always write to them saying that, despite the fact that I can't see, I am nevertheless a human. Cheers Adrienne On Sep 11, 9:05 pm, Eric Oyeneric.o...@gmail.com wrote: I find that rather interesting. now why would the general public (and business professionals) get the impression that mozilla was the most accessible web browser for any OS? sure it works well with windoweeyes and jaws in the windows platform. it also works mostly with orca in linux. it does not work at all in OS X with voiceover (and I have even tried growl with it and still had a lot of issues). I have sent more than a few emails over the last few years and all I get back is nothing but a load of crapola and finger pointing. now I know we can't prevail upon a bunch of volunteer code monkeys and still have them do the work. if they were paid and we wrote the checks, that would certainly be a different case. -Eric On Sep 11, 2011, at 12:43 AM, Rachel magario wrote: the sad part is that loads of programers think firefox is the most accessible browser out there. They get shocked to find it does not work on the mac. I recall a programer at my work insisted that I should use mozilla. Only after he tried using it with vo by him self, was when the message got across! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: navigating the vo getting started guide with webrotor
Anouk, Ok, bear with me and I hope I make sense. If you are in the table of contents, just vo space will not take you to that chapter, you have to vo space once to select it, then once again to enter the chapter, because that heading is not just a heading in the text, but also a link. Now once you are in the chapter you wanted to be reading, you have 3 options. vo command h will move you from heading to heading and the cursors will go with you, given that you have your cursors set up to follow each other. If you are getting to the rotor through vo u: then once in the option by headers, choose the one you want and vo space here once will take you to that heading you wanted in the text, and you just read away. the other option is to have your quick nav on, and by pressing together right or left with up arrow keys assess your rotor. Just set to navigate by headings and use your up and down arrows to find the heading you want and the right arrow to read the content of that heading. I know the last one sounds complicated, but too me is the most efficient way to read a manual. Ah, and I am talking about reading the html web version of the manual. Hope this answers your question. Cheers, Rachel On Sep 10, 2011, at 3:25 PM, Anouk Radix wrote: Hello, yes but that was not the point. I know how to activate the guide either through google or through lion itself.I just cant seem to navigate it by specific heading as I stated in my message. On Sep 10, 2011, at 10:17 PM, james walton wrote: http://www.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/ I just google it there it was! On Sep 10, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hi again Guys. This brings up another question. Is there an HTML version or a text file version of the Getting Started with VoiceOver Manual? I have a brf file, and that's great when I have my PacMate with me. However, I would like one to put on the computer in case I would like to look up something when I don't have the braille display handy. Gigi On Sep 10, 2011, at 3:04 PM, Anouk Radix wrote: Hello everyone, Today i started refamiliarizing myself with the vo getting started guide, i lost focus at one point and because the sections are full with headings i wanted to navigate with the webrotor to the right heading, so i selected the one i wanted with vo space but i didnt get dropped at the right point in the document. Is something wrong with headings in the webrotor or am I doing something wrong here? I know I can use commands to jump from heading to heading but i like using the webrotor for this because then you can jump to a specefic heading you want. Thanks in advance Greetings, Anouk, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Looking for a good task reminder program
sorry, about that. this is a bummer, since it was very handy. I am already missing it. I will be in the look out for something for my self, so if I find I'll send it your way. Rachel. On Sep 10, 2011, at 3:46 PM, Paul Henrichsen wrote: Nothing in file for a to do list. Looks like they removed it with Lion. There is new note, but nothing for to do. On Sep 9, 2011, at 11:26 AM, Rachel magario wrote: if you go to file there should be an option for a new to do. try that and see if it works for you. Rachel. On Sep 9, 2011, at 10:44 AM, Paul Henrichsen wrote: Thanks. Command, option Y doesn't seem to do anything for me, but I'll look in the menus to see if it's there. On Sep 7, 2011, at 10:13 PM, Rachel magario wrote: Not sure if it is the same. But it does. command option y I believe opens a new to do. then just enter the info and it goes to your calendar in ICal. You cannot get to fancy with it, but when I used it it worked ok. I am using more and more though my google calendar and I sink my Iphone calendar with my google one so no matter, when I enter the info, it is always available in both sides. Sorry I could not be more helpful. Rachel On Sep 7, 2011, at 11:55 PM, Paul Henrichsen wrote: The mail app has a to do list? Interesting. I'm particularly looking for programs that can run on the mac and are like the task manager in outlook I guess that's part of their calendaring system along with the mail part of outlook. On Sep 7, 2011, at 9:47 PM, Rachel magario wrote: I use the to do in the mail, or on my iPod I have something called sees the day. Great app. I also use google calendar and just found a way to sink it with my ICal. But I cannot speak for being great yet. can give you more news when I see if it really works well. RM On Sep 7, 2011, at 11:39 PM, Paul Henrichsen wrote: Hi, guys. My wife is looking for a good task program like the one in outlook under windows. Does the mac have anything comparable? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: solving visual captchas with mac and safari
there is a way to use solona. But you are right, often there are no operators. I don't know of any other way. Rachel. On Sep 10, 2011, at 3:54 PM, Cody wrote: I am wondering the same thing and as far as I know ff is still not accessible. Fortunately many sites have the audio captcha but there are still plenty that don't On Sep 10, 2011, at 3:55 PM, Anouk Radix wrote: Hi everyone, On the pc I could solve visual only captchas with either solona and ie (but often there was no operator online) or webvisum and firefox. Is there a way to solve visual captchas as a blind person on the mac? As far as I know firefox is still not accessible on the mac. Thanks in advance Greetings, Anouk, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
talking about accessible games
talking about games, does any one know where is the chess in lion, don't seem to find it on my apps any more. Please, don't tell me it went away? I hope it is just a fluke of my computer! And anybody know of an accessible chess game for the iphone? I have not seen one yet. Thanks, RM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: solving visual captchas with mac and safari
the sad part is that loads of programers think firefox is the most accessible browser out there. They get shocked to find it does not work on the mac. I recall a programer at my work insisted that I should use mozilla. Only after he tried using it with vo by him self, was when the message got across! On Sep 11, 2011, at 12:46 AM, Eric Oyen wrote: good luck using mozilla. they have repeatedly refused to abide by apples terms when it comes to the voiceover api. they keep blaming apple and apple says they have to abide by the apple developers license. until mozilla pulls their collective heads out of said asses, we are not going to see an accessible version of firefox anytime soon. -Eric On Sep 10, 2011, at 6:06 PM, Christine Grassman wrote: Great. I was thinking of trying Firefox, because I'm bloody sick of hearing Safari busy -- particularly when I'm on my bank's web site paying my bills. What are others using besides SAfari? On Sep 10, 2011, at 8:56 PM, Jon Cohn wrote: Well, I have managed to avoid these things, but if it helps keyboard commander is set up by default in Snow Leopard to have left-option-X send the image in the VOICE-OVER cursor via mail. Best wishes, Jonathan On Sep 10, 2011, at 3:55 PM, Anouk Radix wrote: Hi everyone, On the pc I could solve visual only captchas with either solona and ie (but often there was no operator online) or webvisum and firefox. Is there a way to solve visual captchas as a blind person on the mac? As far as I know firefox is still not accessible on the mac. Thanks in advance Greetings, Anouk, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: making a website on the mac?
Do you have any HTML and CSS knowledge, or you need something that is sort of a ready template to work with? On Sep 11, 2011, at 2:52 AM, Anouk Radix wrote: Hello, I would like to make a simple website soon with some text, links and possibly some video and autio material. Are there any accessible html editors or other website building suites that work with lion and voiceover? thanks, greetings, Anouk, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Facebook Issues
I'll report that for you. And let you know if I hear any thing back. Rm On Sep 11, 2011, at 3:16 AM, David Eagle wrote: I am unable to use Facebook since they mysteriously locked me out of my account and then asked me to prove that I was myself by identifying photos of my friends so as to unlock my account. I can't see the photos nor do I know what my friends look like. I cannot find a way to contact Facebook, so I now have an account that I can't use or even delete. I know three other blind people who have the same problem. On 11/09/2011, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I pretty much use the regular FB. I just do a comand-VO-J a few times to find the correct form field, type in my status and a link if I have one, and hit return. HTH, Teresa On Sep 10, 2011, at 10:48 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: All: I can no longer post on a couple of my Facebook pages using m.facebook.com and safari. I have to use the regular fb sie. This happened since Monday night. Any thoughts? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- http://www.davideagle.co.uk -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
adium
Hi everyone, I have done research online and I have heard in a podcast that adium can read out loud the answer someone writes. But all I managed to do was to make vo read, attention! so and so talks to you every time i get an answer, but I don't care about that. I actually find it annoying. I just want vo to actually read what the person wrote right after it arrives? Just like in good old windows live. Oh, and if any one knows how to make that happen in skype too, would be great! Thanks, Rachel. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
help with itunes
Hello everyone, I am embarrassed to say, but I am about to give up on itunes! :) I try and try, but nothing, I am starting to think it does not like me! :) Ok here is the last issue. I opened itunes and asked me for a library, I just moved my arrows to check was available and it chose a folder called audio books, the issue is in there there are only 3 files. Now, no matter what I do, every time itunes opens it is sellectedon that library, my old library was just called rachel music where all my musics are. I went to preference, there says my library is rachel music still. But the 20 gb of stuff I had is gone from my itunes. If I go to my music folder every thing is still there, anyone knows what is going on? Thanks for any help, hope someone can make my day! Rachel. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: to translators
I don't translate often, but when I do is usually very specific subjects, for that I use wikipedia, in order to find references, dictionaries on the subject and just straight out find a professor in the subject who also speack english to run down a quick interview. Hope this helps. Rachel. On Sep 10, 2011, at 4:51 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Maureen, On 9 Sep 2011, at 21:18, maureen wrote: I have a question for those of you who work as translators. How do you research terms you don't know, that are not in dictionaries I use Google to try to get a context. or glossaries? I occasionally receive a glossary with a translation but mostly I make my own if I'm going to be doing a lot of work on the same subject. Do you use any programs for translation memory? No. I don't like them. They produce inferior translations. or managing terminology? What about making, maintaining, or searching term bases? Most of that is irrelevant to the kind of work I do, which is mostly tourist brochures and guidebooks. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: commands for editing and reviewing text?
I wonder why command up and down errors never work for me? On Sep 8, 2011, at 4:20 PM, Kestrell wrote: Those are the basic Mac commands, but there are also the VoiceOver commands, which I find to often be more intuitive, such as VO-l read line VO-S read sentence VO-w read word VO-P read paragraph etc. Kes - Original Message - From: erik burggraaf To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:14 PM Subject: Re: commands for editing and reviewing text? Move left one character: left arrow, move right one character: right arrow, Move left one word: option left arrow, Move right one word: option right arrow, Move to the beginning of the line: control left arrow, Move to the end of the line: control right arrow, Note that sometimes this is flakey but command left and right arrows also do this function. Move to the previous paragraph option uparrow, Move to the next paragraph: option down arrow, Note that a paragraph is marked by a singal hard return, Move to top of document: command up arrow, Move to end of document: command down arrow, To select by any of the above increments add shift. For example to move right one word press option right arrow. To select one word to the right press option shift uparrow. Select all: command A, Undo: command Z, Cut: command X, Copy: command C, Paste: command V, Backspace: backspace, Delete: fn Backspace, Hope this helps, Erik Burggraaf This month in Ebony Promos: Two new gps systems for demo. Mac OS Lion When will it be supported? Ebony Consulting at accessibility Unconference Toronto. To read more and subscribe, Visit: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/mailman/listinfo/ebony-promos_erik-burggraaf.com Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-09-08, at 4:48 PM, Alex Hall wrote: Hi all, I know this has been covered before, but commands I thought were supposed to work do not. How do I move by character, word, sentence, line, and paragraph? Currently, I have to hope to not make a mistake while writing on my mac because I know I can't go back and fix it, and emails with articles in them (such as those from PC World) are not easy to navigate because I can't just move by paragraphs. I have not even tried anything like scripting or writing documents because I can't move around text at all. At least the suggestion I got a couple days ago has stopped the dashboard from constantly popping up when I try to review text... Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from BrailleNote mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
