Re: on screen keyboard

[Thuy Mallalieu]

Hi Gabe. I'm having the same problems as you. The only way to make the onscreen keyboard visible is to use either external keyboard or Braille Display and the space with dots 1 4 6 a couple of times to toggle to onscreen keyboard visible. I was looking in the voiceover commands list to see if I could assign a gesture to make keyboard visible but the only way I could see was through the Braille commands. It was here that I found some strange anomalies. Listed in my Braille devices was my Sony WH1000 headphones. Sure enough the show/hide onscreen keyboard command was there in the list of available commands but nothing assigned to it. I'm wondering whether you may have paired something like those headphones which could be sending some kind of command to voiceover to hide the keyboard? I just removed it from my bluetooth devices and will see if that sorts out the problem. Very annoying as I quite like the sound of those headphones. Quite why they should show up as a Braille device is a bit of a mystery to me though? Let's hope that resolves things.CheersThuyOn 24 Nov 2023, at 04:50, Gabe Griffith  wrote:Hi, Sorry if I was confusing. I'm talking about that when I activate the edit field I can type using braille screen input but the onscreen keyboard is often hidden. This causes issues because if I'm in Safari trying to get to a web page for example I can type the web address but since there is no keyboard the go button doesn't show up. If I'm in an app that has some kind of search type button that doesn't appear because the keyboard is hidden. I hope that helps clarify the issue. Gabe Gabe Griffith President, California Council of the Blind (925)222-5762gabe.griff...@ccbnet.orgOn Nov 23, 2023, at 8:39 PM, Dave Carlson  wrote:Dave,Confused. Why or where is it necessary to have the on screen keyboard show when there is no active edit field? Not sure I understand.
Dave CarlsonWoodworker, Musician, Oregonian, Engineer,  Farfardgcarlson0...@gmail.com

On Nov 23, 2023, at 8:34 PM, Gabe Griffith  wrote:hi, Yes, I've always had the keyboard show up whenever an edit field is active also. This is new behavior.  I forgot to mention that I have rebooted my phone and that brings back the keyboard but that seems to only be temporary.Thanks, Gabe     Gabe Griffith President, California Council of the Blind (925)222-5762gabe.griff...@ccbnet.orgOn Nov 23, 2023, at 8:17 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:Try turning off bluetooth on the iPhone.This should help determine if the issue has to do with a bluetooth device.
- Brad -


On Nov 23, 2023, at 21:54, Dave Carlson  wrote:I would think the keyboard should show up whenever there is an edit field and it is active. I have not seen this behavior with iOS 17.1.1. Also iPhone 14 Pro.
Dave CarlsonWoodworker, Musician, Oregonian, Engineer,  Farfardgcarlson0...@gmail.com

On Nov 23, 2023, at 7:46 PM, Gabe Griffith  wrote:Hello all, Ever since I updated to iOS 17 I have been having an issue where my on screen keboard doesn't show up on my iPhone 14 Pro. I Thought it might be an iOS 17 thing or have to do with my having a couple of different braille displays connected but my fiance just got a new 14 Pro yesterday and is occasionally having the same issue and she most definitely doesn't have any keyboards or braille displays connected to her phone Does anyone have any thoughts on what would cause this and how to get the keyboard to show up? I generally use braille screen input so can get around it when typing but it makes things quite difficult for things like getting to a web site or performing a product search in apps. Thanks, Gabe Gabe Griffith President, California Council of the Blind (925)222-5762gabe.griff...@ccbnet.org-- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/136C57DE-37AD-40BC-B3C8-A7D695D84AB7%40gmail.com.

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Re: Is anyone else having issues reading Kindle books on iOS using a braille display?

[Thuy Mallalieu]

Hi Des and anyone else experiencing these issues. I too was having these 
problems and tried several Braille Displays and still the same problems with 
turning pages with the panning buttons with every Display including the Focus 
40 that seemed to work ok for Mark. That got me thinking about changing some of 
the viewing options. I think Mark can see a bit, so I wondered if he might have 
increased the font size in his kindle viewing options. So i pressed the 
increase font size button a few times, and hey presto, the page turning seems 
to be working now. So give it a go and see if it works for you as well.
Cheers
Thuy


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> On 21 Jan 2018, at 21:23, Des Delgadillo <desdelgadi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hmm, strange. I’ve confirmed the setting is indeed set to on. I’ll try a few 
> things and see if I can’t get it sorted.
> 
> I wonder though, is there a key command to get the display to advance 
> automatically? This would be a great feature in my opinion.
> 
>> On Jan 18, 2018, at 9:46 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Des,
>> 
>> I am happy to report that, using my Focus 40 Blue with the latest version of 
>> both iOS and the Kindle app on my iPhone 8 Plus, I can change Kindle book 
>> pages seamlessly via the panning buttons on my Focus.  
>> 
>> Confirm the following setting is configured correctly:
>> 
>> 1.
>> From the iOS Settings area, select General.
>> 
>> 2.
>> Select Accessibility.  
>> 
>> 3.
>> Select VoiceOver.
>> 
>> 4.
>> Select Braille.
>> 
>> 5.
>> Set the "Turn Pages When Panning", option, to "ON".
>> 
>> Good Luck and Enjoy,
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Des Delgadillo
>> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 2:37 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Is anyone else having issues reading Kindle books on iOS using a 
>> braille display?
>> 
>> Not sure if this is just my issue, but whenever I read on the Kindle app and 
>> reach the end of the page, continuing to pan doesn’t do anything and I’m 
>> unable to continue on in the book.
>> 
>> Any ideas as to what could be causing this?
>> 
>> Alternatively, is there a way to make a braille display scroll automatically?
>> 
>> Thanks guys!
>> 
>> —Des
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Re: just a suggestion, Selecting on Iphone

[Thuy Mallalieu]

Hi Ramy. Have you been able to put the text selection option into the rotor? If 
so, this should work in an email message, on a safari web page, in a note text 
field etc. It doesn't seem to work in the messages app if you are reading 
someone else's message, but if you are composing a message, it works in the 
edit field. So if you just want to select 2 words, first set the rotor to 
words, then swipe up or down to the word you want to start selecting from. Then 
turn the rotor to text selection. Now swipe up or down till it says word 
selection. Now swipe right and it will speak out the word to be selected. Swipe 
right again and it selects the next word. Now turn the rotor to edit. Now swipe 
up or down till it says copy. This copies the selection to the clipboard. Now 
go to the document or message you want to paste the selection into. You might 
need to double tap in the edit field to make sure that quick nav is turned off 
and you are ready to paste into the text area. You might have to double tap a 
couple of times to make sure you are either at the start or end of the field. 
Otherwise if you want to paste in the middle of the text, then turn the rotor 
to words, and swipe up or down to where you want to paste the selection. Now 
turn the rotor to edit and swipe up or down till it says paste. Finally double 
tap, and the selected text should be inserted at that point. Hope this explains 
ok.
Cheers
Thuy


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> On 22 Mar 2017, at 08:00, Ramy Moustafa <ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello:
> Thanks so much for that.
> 1st time for me to know that this feature was added.
> but,  it will work just in the text that am writing not any text that
> am reading. and also,
> can you give me  more explnations please?
> I tried it but with no success.
> if I have  a small sentence like "Good Morning my Friends".
> I need to select only the 2 words "my friends", what  shall I do?
> 
> Thanks again
> 
> 
> 
>> On 3/22/17, Thuy Mallalieu <tmallal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Ramy. You can select text by including text selection in the rotor. You
>> have to go into general / accessibility / voiceover / rotor. Make sure you
>> double tap on it to check/select it. Once you rotor to text selection,
>> swiping up or down goes through the selection types i.e character, word,
>> line, heading and select all.  Then double tap once you chosen which element
>> to select by. The only slightly tricky thing is if you need to select from a
>> certain point in the text. You have to navigate to that point using move by
>> character, word or line. Then you have to turn the rotor to text selection
>> and swipe up or down to the type of selection required as stated above. Hope
>> this helps
>> Cheers
>> Thuy
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On 21 Mar 2017, at 13:25, Ramy Moustafa <ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello all:
>>> 
>>> After releasing the Ios v10, Selecting all text in an email or
>>> something became very hard, I must make many many trials to succeed.
>>> so am I the only one that has this,?
>>> all I need is to select the hole text in the email.
>>> 
>>> my suggestion is as follows:
>>> why apple can not try to give us a place to put a start and end mark
>>> for selecting instead of using 2 fingers etc which is not easy?
>>> we can just put a starting mark, and move by word or lines, then put
>>> an end mark.
>>> 
>>> Need to know your opinions.
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: just a suggestion, Selecting on Iphone

[Thuy Mallalieu]

Hi Ramy. You can select text by including text selection in the rotor. You have 
to go into general / accessibility / voiceover / rotor. Make sure you double 
tap on it to check/select it. Once you rotor to text selection, swiping up or 
down goes through the selection types i.e character, word, line, heading and 
select all.  Then double tap once you chosen which element to select by. The 
only slightly tricky thing is if you need to select from a certain point in the 
text. You have to navigate to that point using move by character, word or line. 
Then you have to turn the rotor to text selection and swipe up or down to the 
type of selection required as stated above. Hope this helps
Cheers
Thuy


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> On 21 Mar 2017, at 13:25, Ramy Moustafa <ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello all:
> 
> After releasing the Ios v10, Selecting all text in an email or
> something became very hard, I must make many many trials to succeed.
> so am I the only one that has this,?
> all I need is to select the hole text in the email.
> 
> my suggestion is as follows:
> why apple can not try to give us a place to put a start and end mark
> for selecting instead of using 2 fingers etc which is not easy?
> we can just put a starting mark, and move by word or lines, then put
> an end mark.
> 
> Need to know your opinions.
> Thanks
> 
> 
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> Faculty ofmusical education
> Music arranger and Sound engineer @:
> Harmony Recording Studio
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Re: No more hardware escape key on upcoming MacBooks

[Thuy Mallalieu]

yeah. i was wondering about that too.


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> On 27 Oct 2016, at 23:35, Douglas Lawlor  wrote:
> 
> Quick question:
> With the lack of function keys on the new MacBook Pro how does one go about 
> turning VoiceOver on and off. The current VO guide still says to use 
> Command+F5. 
> 
> Doug
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Oct 27, 2016, at 2:42 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> Looks like we’ll have lots of keys to map now with the light bar.  I’m 
>> intrigued by the idea but need to try one out myself to see what it’s like.
>> 
>>> On Oct 27, 2016, at 11:12 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sure, if osx suffices for your use cases, this is probably correct.
>>> 
>>> But, if you want to host virtual machines, e.g. via VMware, here's yet
>>> another key to map, and yet another way to make using those virtual
>>> machines problematic, i.e. harder to reliably stay in the vm vs
>>> accessing the chrome of the host vm server.
>>> 
>>> Personally speaking, I'm not satisfied remapping Ctrl, Option, and
>>> Command to host Windows and Linux. I've just not been sufficiently happy
>>> with doing this on my Airbook to the extent that I took an 8 year old
>>> laptop with me on my last several business trips rather than the
>>> Airbook.
>>> 
>>> Janina
>>> 
>>> Kliphton Miller writes:
 Honestly, who uses an escape key anyway.  I was just sitting here 
 thinking, and I couldn't think of 1 thing I actually use the escape key 
 for.  Windows yes, but not on OSX.  JMO
 
 Miller Family
 Without Christ there is no life!
 
 On Oct 26, 2016, at 4:23 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
 
 I'm starting to lose faith in apple,
 
 These things sound like going to far,
 
 But then hey, I had no issues with the headphone jack going...
 Guess this is a wait and see situation.
 
 I just want a quad core processor in my mac book air and `32gig ram with 
 1tb ssd 
 
 I'll be happy even with a 13 inch device and those specs.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
 Sent: Wednesday, 26 October 2016 1:45 PM
 To: macvoiceo...@freelists.org; macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; 
 mac4thebl...@freelists.org
 Subject: No more hardware escape key on upcoming MacBooks
 
 I just saw an article talking about how you can re-map and existing key, 
 such as control, caps lock, command or option, to take the place of the 
 escape key which is going away on the new MacBooks to be revealed on 
 Thursday. There will still be that functionality on the new magic track 
 bar or whatever they're calling it. But if you are a person who wants to 
 have a hardware escape key, you will have to remap an existing key to get 
 it. For those of you who use caps lock for voiceover, good luck. I have no 
 idea how that Mike coexist with this new functionality. Or you're stuck 
 with the new magic track bar and it's soft functionality. Could be 
 interesting.
 Mary
 
 
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Re: Headphone bug still exists on the I phone.

[Thuy Mallalieu]

Hi Kawal. One workaround for this is to go into 
settings/general/accessibility/call audio routing and setting it to bluetooth 
rather than auto. If you don't have the bluetooth headset switched on, the 
audio still goes through the phone's earpiece as usual, but if the bluetooth 
headset is on, you can use them to make the call as expected. Hope this helps?
Cheers
Thuy

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> On 24 Jan 2016, at 21:05, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes, the but is still there.  I tried it after the latest update.
> 
> Thanks for reporting it if you have.
> 
> Kawal.
>> On 24 Jan 2016, at 18:30, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Kawal,
>>   If you mean the Bluetooth connection is lost when a call is made, yeah. I 
>> was not even aware it was a bug for I kept forgetting to look into it. Is it 
>> still present in cersion 9.2.1? I am afraid to try it. Its time to send a 
>> note to Apple and remind them. I will do that right now.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>> 
>>> On 1/23/2016 10:33 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>>> Morning All, or whatever the day may be for you all.
>>> 
>>> I hope those of you who are in the affected areas of the US are safe
>>> with the weather being what it is with the lizards etc.
>>> 
>>> I notice from all the IOS updates, the headphone bug which Jonathan
>>> Mosen went in to details when he did his first podcast on the new IOS
>>> when it came out last September or October still hasn’t been fixed.  I
>>> am very surprised that Apple haven’t managed to fix it yet.  It’s
>>> frustrating that I can’t make any voice calls using my new Aftershokz
>>> Bluez Sports.  By the way, I like the new model of headset.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
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>>> 
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Re: I am frustrated.

[Thuy Mallalieu]

Hi Kawal. I wonder if the status cell 
has been switched on by mistake? I remember in an older version of ios that 
used to crash if the status cell is on. I wonder if the restore from backup 
didn't bring across althe settings properly. Try setting it up with the speech 
and maybe forget the device and try pairing it again. Hope you can get it to 
work ok. I know how frustrating it is, especially when you get so reliant on 
using the braille.
Cheers
Thuy
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> On 16 Oct 2015, at 13:54, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone.
> 
> I am very frustrated with my Braille display.
> 
> For some reason, it works for a short while on my iPhone, and then it stops. 
> Also, when I input the text, if I write three words, two words show.
> 
> I am away this weekend from my computer, so have to use the Braille display 
> and my iPhone.
> 
> What I don't understand is, why everyone else says they can use their braille 
> display, and I cannot? 
> Normally, I have been very good with a  Braille display and could use it with 
> my iPhone, and I was using it with no problem when using the iPhone when the 
> last iOS was out.
> 
> Normally, I have always been able to use the Braille display successfully.
> 
> I am dictating this message because I cannot use Braille display very well.
> 
> Also, when I write a message, when in the text messing app, if I press the 
> enter key, it sends the message rather than making a new line. I have checked 
> the settings in accessibility and wonder what else I am missing? Also I write 
> contracted and it appears in grade 1. If I have done something or missed 
> another step in this process, please enlighten me as I cannot input braille 
> using my hands as they hurt after a while so I need to use this display. So 
> help!
> 
> The way to go onone's birthday! ☺️
> 
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Re: Braille, safari etc.

[Thuy Mallalieu]

Hi Kawal. I am using the Focus 14 with iphone 6 running iOS 9 and it works 
fine. So I don't think there's an issue with the software. Hope this helps?
Cheers
Thuy

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> On 13 Oct 2015, at 21:41, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello All.
> 
> I have installed El Capitan on my I Mac three times since I messed it up 
> twice so I’ve had plenty of practice.  I must say even though I had help 
> putting the installer on a USB stick, it was the first time that I installed 
> the whole operating system on my own.  I could not have done this if I had 
> been using Windows.  It’s an achievement for me since during the day, I use 
> Windows at work and only use the Mac at home so I don’t get a great deal of 
> time using the Mac operating system on a regular basis.
> 
> First, I have altered some preferences in Safari on my Mac and Mac Mini and 
> still the favourite bar even though I went in view options to get rid of it 
> keeps coming up.  So when I open safari, my home page won’t come up even 
> though I have specified that in preferences.  All I want is a clean page of 
> safari when I open it so I get a home page, a bit like what you get in 
> windows.  Hope this makes sense as it’s the end of the day for me and I hope 
> I’m making sense.
> 
> Secondly, when i connect my Focus to my I phone 6S plus, it crashes.  Has 
> anyone experienced this and is the Focus broken with IOS 9 on an I phone?  I 
> have the newer models of Focus, the 40 and 14 respectively.
> 
> I haven’t read all of Jonathan’s book yet due to time constraints but will 
> get round to it in case something has changed in braille.
> 
> Hope someone replies.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Kawal.
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Re: Lock Rotation on an iPad 2 *WHERE* in control center?

[Thuy Mallalieu]

Hi Mark. The side switch may already be set to lock rotation, in which case it 
will not appear in the control centre. You can find the setting for the side 
switch in settings/general. It can be set to mute sounds or rotation lock, and 
whichever one is selected, will put the other in the control centre. Hope this 
helps?
Cheers
Thuy


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 Yesterday, some counseled me that I could lock my iPad 2's rotation to 
 portrayed mode from the Control Center.  I've looked in Control Center, and 
 see nothing relevant to it.  Sorry to be a moron, but could someone clarify 
 where in Control Center I specify a rotation lock?
 Thanks.
 
 
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Re: Lock Rotation on an iPad 2 *WHERE* in control center?

[Thuy Mallalieu]

no i'm refering to the flick switch above the volume buttons.

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 On 17 Jun 2014, at 19:57, Mark Baxter markbaxte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi, Thuy:
 
 I have noted the side switch set to lock rotation within Settings.  However, 
 nothing I do, either pressing the side switch (either up or down) or changing 
 it to mute, seems to actually lock the rotation.  My assumption here was 
 that VoiceOver had cooped the side switch for volume, as that is always what 
 it does--raise and lower the volume.  However, I shall test this by changing 
 the selection in settings to mute, and then going to Control Center to see 
 if I can lock the rotation from there. *smile*
 Thanks; be well
 
 
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Re: waking up macbook pro

[Thuy Mallalieu]

I've been finding this issues waking up my macbook air running mavericks, but I 
thought it was because the battery was dropping to below 15 or 20 percent. Now 
I'm wondering if it is a problem with voiceover depending on which voice is 
being used. I have been using acapella and tried changing my default voice to 
Alex, and haven't experienced this sluggishness since. Hope it works for you 
all too?
Cheers
Thuy

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 On 20 May 2014, at 06:15, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I've been seeing this with my Mac Mini too. I thought it was in conflict with 
 time Machine or something. I have seen more sluggishness lately with 
 Mavericks. Mountain Lion was much more snappy in my opinion.
 
 On May 16, 2014, at 1:57 PM, Gary gary.robl...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 This is also true on an iMac running Mavericks.  I can press any key to wake 
 up the computer, but VoiceOver has a long delay before it wakes.
 
 Gary
 On May 8, 2014, at 10:37 AM, Jim Gatteys jgatt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all!
 One of the things I've always liked about my macbook pro is that I could 
 close the lid and when I re-opened it I had almost instant access to the 
 computer.
 Since Mavericks that is not the case.  Voiceover will not speak at first, 
 and there is about 10 seconds in which I cannot do anything at all but 
 patiently wait for my computer to have its morning cup 'o jo after waking 
 up;
 Does anybody else have this sluggish problem?
 Thanks,
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Re: display brailles

[Thuy Mallalieu]

any idea what this mystery braille display is? Like you say, we might have 
better luck if we knew which one it was?
Cheers
Thuy


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 On 27 Apr 2014, at 15:13, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   This display appears not to have a keyuboard, its strictly a display. I 
 think we need to leave this to someone who knows how to work this particular 
 display to help the person. Itherwise we will all go on side trips that lead 
 to nowhere.
 
 Quote of the nanosecond . . .
 If you surrender to the wind, you can ride it.
 --Toni Morrison
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 On 4/27/2014 6:58 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote:
 I forgot something. Although you can't assign Braille key commands unless 
 you have the ability to write Braille on your display, you may be able to 
 assign commands to your trackpad. I haven't done this, so someone else on 
 this list will have to help you to do that if you want to do that.
 Either that, or you may want to call that wonderful 877-204-3930 number. 
 That is the Apple Accessibility number for blind and deaf customers.
 Gigi
 
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 On Apr 27, 2014, at 8:54 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi again
 You can't assign commands unless you have the ability to write Braille on 
 your display. That was why I was asking you if you could write Braille on 
 your display. Otherwise, all you would have the ability to do is to read 
 braille on your braille display. It sounds like that your display is 
 supported by voice over because otherwise you would've had to do more to 
 make it work or maybe it wouldn't have worked it all. So it sounds like 
 that you will need to use your computer keyboard to do everything like 
 putting things in and use your Braille display toread braille on your 
 programs such as text edit. In fact, text edit is the first program that I 
 would recommend you start with to practice with your braille display. You 
 may need to press command shift w in text edit so that when you get to the 
 bottom of the first page your text will start on the next page.
 Gigi
 
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 On Apr 27, 2014, at 7:49 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera 
 dionip...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 my computer recognize my display braille, but the only problem was to 
 navigate things, do i have to go to the voice over utility  braille then 
 i have to assign some commands?
 On 27 Apr 2014, at 12:26 pm, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi there
 Just because it doesn't tell you about voice over in the manual does not 
 mean that it is not supported in voiceover. How do I know? Because my 
 focus 14 blue is not listed in a discussion of using on the Mac in the 
 focus 14 blue manual. The focus, at least in my manual, never says a word 
 about voiceover except for the iPhone. However, my display is listed 
 under its manufacturer in the voiceover manual for the Macintosh for 
 supported Braille displays. So, you might look in the Getting Started 
 with VoiceOver in Apple's website and see if it's on the list. You first 
 look under the manufacturer, and then it has the displays under that 
 manufacturer that are supported.
 
 In the case of Freedom Scientific, for example, they act the Mac does not 
 exist almost because if tell them you are using a Mac they immediately 
 tell you to call Apple. That's because they sell JAWS, of course, which 
 is under Windows. Since there are about 40 braille displays listed under 
 supported braille displays on Apple's website, I would be surprised if 
 yours wasn't listed there. I was most impressed to see the braille 
 displays listed there, some of which I never heard of before.
 
 Also, when you connected your display to your computer, did you get 
 braille? If you did, then VoiceOver is recognizing your display and it's 
 on the list somewhere, I'll bet because VoiceOver only recognizes those 
 displays that are on the list of supported braille displays. I don't 
 think you would see braille on your display if you are able to get 
 braille on it without going through more complicated connections. I hope 
 what I just said makes sense.
 
 
 Regards,
 Gigi
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Apr 26, 2014, at 8:46 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera 
 dionip...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 nope, i dont think i can't type on my display braille, i have the manual 
 for my display braille but in the manual there's no instruction how to 
 use it on the mac,. my mom read it for me, and there's all instruction 
 to use this display braille for all screen reader except for voice over,
 Il giorno 27/apr/2014, alle ore 12:49 AM, Eugenia Firth 
 gigifi...@me.com ha scritto:
 
 Hi there
 I am not sure if I made my question clear. You know, all Braille 
 displays have buttons on them so that you can move the Braille 
 back-and-forth. Does your Braille display let you type Braille on it? 
 That is what I meant by input keys. If your Braille display will let 
 you type input Braille, then you can use

Re: Another question about the I Phone.

[Thuy Mallalieu]

Hi Kawal. You have to select the message you want to forward either by 
doubletappping or doubletap and hold, then make sure the rotor is set to 
action, and swipe up or down to the more option and double tap. then you get 
choices to delete or forward which are at the bottom of the screen. Sometimes, 
the onscreen keyboard is still up which makes it slightly annoying to try and 
locate those delete or forward buttons. Hope this 
helps?
Cheers
Thuy

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 I have been trying to forward a text Message, but can't find how. How is it 
 done now, I even opened the Text Message but could find nothing to indicate 
 what to do.
 
 Kawal.
 
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Re: help with voices and dates

[Thuy]

Hi. Only just saw this, so sorry for the delay in replying. I'm
guessing that you are talking about voices on the iphone? If so, then
it's best to change the voice in the language section of
general/accessibility/voiceover rather than in the date and time
regional settings. So go to general, then accessibility, then
voiceover, then language rotor, and select the languages you want to
add to the language rotor. That way you can just switch between them
and the date and time regional settings should be set to your default.
Hope this helps?

Cheers

Thuy


On 09/11/2013, alia robinson ali...@gmail.com wrote:
   Okay, I prefer the australian voice, but live in the U.S. I have a 
 probem
 though. the voice reads dates wrong now. Is there a way to get a U.S.
 reading on dates using a non U.S. voice?

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Re: Bluetooth Brail Display without Keyboard

[Thuy Mallalieu]

Hi Erik. The EuroBraille esys displays can have the input keys disabled or the 
BrailleConnect displays have the input keys recessed so that they are below the 
level of the 
top plate of the chasis, which makes it difficult to inadvertently input 
Braille. Hope this helps?
Cheers
Thuy
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 I'm not sure but I think you have it backwards.  :)  There's a braille input 
 output model with display and keyboard, and there's a braille input model 
 with keyboard only.
 
 It doesn't really make any sense not to have the input feature on any modern 
 display really.  Although, having said that, a switch that locks the controls 
 would be nice for people who don't want braille input and no one has that as 
 far as I know.
 
 Best,
 
 Erik Burggraaf
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 ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog
 Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
 
 On 2013-07-23, at 10:37 PM, Traci Duncan our4p...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Isn't the braille pen a good  very affordable option?  I believe they have 
 a model with 12Cells and no keyboard.
 
 http://www.braillepen.com
 On Jul 23, 2013, at 5:01 AM, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote:
 
 Brailliant classic 24 sounds like your baby.
 
 You can probably even find one cheep.
 
 Hope this helps,
 
 Erik Burggraaf
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 Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
 
 On 2013-07-22, at 6:11 PM, Brian Unitt bcun...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I am looking for a compact bluetooth brail display that does not have a 
 brail keyboard, to use with my iPad. any suggestions. I am using a 
 Refreshabrail display right now but the brail keyboard overrides my qwerty 
 keyboard which is my preferred input method.
 
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Re: Pairing of Amazon Basics keyboard.

[Thuy Mallalieu]

Hi Kawal. There is a podcast on this keyboard on applevis. I think they covered 
all this but can't quite remember. 

Sent from my iPhone

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 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com
 Date: 28 December 2012 04:13:15 PM GMT
 To: viph...@googlegroups.com viph...@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Pairing of Amazon Basics keyboard.
 Reply-To: viph...@googlegroups.com
 
 Hello.
 
 I received today my Amazon Basics keyboard and am unable to pair it.  
 However, if someone has one of these, I'd like to know how the batteries go 
 in, I put them with the two pointy things two the left.  It doesn't matter 
 how I slide the switch to the left or right, it's not showing up in the 
 bluetooth settings.  I'd like to know if the pairing button is next to the 
 slider switch and whether or not I have the batteries in correctly, how to 
 pair it and what way should I slide the switch please?
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
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Re: Pairing of Amazon Basics keyboard.

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How much more compact than the apple keyboard is it?

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On 28 Dec 2012, at 16:52, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:

 Thanks Thuy.
 
 I will have a look at Applevis but I got it working and at last I find a 
 keyboard where the Command and Option keys and VO keys work.
 
 Kawal.
 
 On 28 Dec 2012, at 04:37 PM, Thuy Mallalieu tmallal...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Kawal. There is a podcast on this keyboard on applevis. I think they 
 covered all this but can't quite remember. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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 Begin forwarded message:
 
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 Date: 28 December 2012 04:13:15 PM GMT
 To: viph...@googlegroups.com viph...@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Pairing of Amazon Basics keyboard.
 Reply-To: viph...@googlegroups.com
 
 Hello.
 
 I received today my Amazon Basics keyboard and am unable to pair it.  
 However, if someone has one of these, I'd like to know how the batteries 
 go in, I put them with the two pointy things two the left.  It doesn't 
 matter how I slide the switch to the left or right, it's not showing up in 
 the bluetooth settings.  I'd like to know if the pairing button is next to 
 the slider switch and whether or not I have the batteries in correctly, 
 how to pair it and what way should I slide the switch please?
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Kawal.
 
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Re: BRF files of ML manual

[Thuy]

Hi Lisette. I think this link should work:
http://images.apple.com/accessibility/pdf/VoiceOver_Mountain_Lion.zip
Hope this helps?

Cheers
Thuy

On 17/09/2012, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi
 Is it possible to download these? I went to the Apple Accessibility link
 posted here a while ago and only see a way to order an embossed copy or
 access the manual online. The Lighthouse page only seems to offer a buying
 option.
 I'd be grateful if anybody knows how to get the .brf files of these so I can
 read them on my notetaker while performing the actions with my Mac. I seem
 to learn best that way.

 Cheers
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Re: BRF files of ML manual

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For some reason, activating the link doesn't seem to work. You may
need to select the text and paste it into a browser. I know it seems
to imply that they are pdf files, but once you download the zip and
extract it, you'll find there are brf files in there.

Cheers

Thuy


On 17/09/2012, Thuy tmallal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Lisette. I think this link should work:
 http://images.apple.com/accessibility/pdf/VoiceOver_Mountain_Lion.zip
 Hope this helps?

 Cheers
 Thuy

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 Hi
 Is it possible to download these? I went to the Apple Accessibility link
 posted here a while ago and only see a way to order an embossed copy or
 access the manual online. The Lighthouse page only seems to offer a
 buying
 option.
 I'd be grateful if anybody knows how to get the .brf files of these so I
 can
 read them on my notetaker while performing the actions with my Mac. I
 seem
 to learn best that way.

 Cheers
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Re: Locking my screen anyone please?.

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Hi Kawal. To lock the orientation to portrait, you bring up the app
switcher with double click of the home button; then three finger swipe
right to get to the second page instead of the third page that it
defaults to.There you have the controls for the music player and the
first item if you swipe right with one finger is the rotation lock
button which requires a double tap to toggle it.. Hope this helps?

Cheers
Thuy


On 17/05/2012, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 Hi Thuy.

 My last resort is to reset the display and if that does not work I send it
 to be looked at as I reset my I phone.

 My question is how to lock the screen in to portrait mode please any one?

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 16 May 2012, at 04:20 PM, Thuy tmallal...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Kawal. I notice sometimes the Braille output is blank, almost as
 though VO has lost focus. I usually go to the bottom of the screen and
 then to the top, and if the display is still blank, I press the home
 button to come out of the app, and then go back into it. If the
 joystick and thumb keys still don't seem to work, there is a test mode
 in the esys to check that everything is working OK. You select tools
 and press the left joystick to bring up options and select test. Then
 you can choose either the braille display or the keyboard. Once in
 there, if you test out each of the keys, if they are working
 correctly, you should get something on the display to show that that
 particular keystroke is working OK. I've had to send my esys 12 back
 three times now, and they are charging me 260 pounds to get it
 completely refurbished. It always seemed to fail with the right
 joystick up command, so they are replacing the right joystick. I just
 hope nothing else goes wrong with it. I'm a bit disappointed with its
 fragility. Brilliant concept of an all in one notetaker and portable
 display, but rather unstable and inaccurate for Braille input, which
 is a real shame, since on paper, it seems to be a perfect device.

 Cheers

 Thuy


 On 16/05/2012, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 Hello All.

 Wonder if any one who uses a braille display om their I phone have ever
 had
 this problem where the wheels an joist stick stops functioning?

 Looks as I will have to reset my I phone from scratch as I think this
 happened to me before.

 Kawal.

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Re: problem with braille display.

[Thuy Mallalieu]

Which display is it? 


Sent from my iPhone

On 17 May 2012, at 21:14, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:

 Hello.
 
 My braille display is still having problems. I will be sending it back to the 
 person who I bought from, in the first place. It's the third time I'm doing 
 this. So I'm rather disappointed. Take care.
 
 On 17 May 2012, at 05:27 PM, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Funny I just came across your message this morning shortly after I
 experienced this very thing for the first time with my iPod.  It was
 like this incredible long lag time where actions from the Braille
 display would back up in a queue or something and then trickle to the
 iPod maybe five seconds later or something.  I finally got out of the
 application I was running and then I noticed the Braille display
 showing its startup prompt even though the iPod claimed it was still
 connected.  I finally unpaired the device and re-paired it from within
 Settings - Accessibility - VoiceOver - Braille.  then I noticed VO
 said the Braille display was still disconnected.  I had to power cycle
 everything and then I had to force the display to connect in the VO
 bluetooth menu; fwew, I finally got it all working.
 
 that was a real pain; I hope that doesn't happen again.
 
 On 5/16/12, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 Hello All.
 
 Wonder if any one who uses a braille display om their I phone have ever had
 this problem where the wheels an joist stick stops functioning?
 
 Looks as I will have to reset my I phone from scratch as I think this
 happened to me before.
 
 Kawal.
 
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Re: aThe slim Braille Pen.

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Hi  Kawal. Isn't this Braille input only? I have the Braille pen 12, which has 
the display and Braille keyboard, but that's just under 1K. It has really nice 
Braille dots and good keyboard, but no cursor routing, which makes it a bit of 
a pain editing texts  and activating apps. Also, the command to wake it up is 
space with K, which overridess  the keyboard help command. Hope this helps?
Cheers
Thuy


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On 30 Mar 2012, at 16:14, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:

 Hello.
 
 I have just purchased the Slim Braille Pen, priced at £295 the cheapest 
 refreshable braille I have seen so far although I do have a Euro braille 40 
 which I use as well.
 
 Just wish to know if anyone has used this  either their mac or I phone?
 
 All experiences are welcome.
 
 Kawal.
 
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Re: aThe slim Braille Pen.

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Hi Kawal. I also have a Eurobraille Esys but with 12 cells. It's  really good, 
but mine has been a bit unreliable and I've had to send it back 3 times for 
updating firmware and repairs.
Also the note-taking functions are very basic and the diary crashes every so 
often, so I have to keep resetting it. My favourite setup at the moment is the 
Iphone with a Braille connect 12 and Riitek Keyboard stuck over the top of the 
connect 12 with velcro. It's a really compact setup with qwerty input and 
braille output. The other good thing about the Braille connect is that it has a 
standby mode and wakes up whenever the iphone comes on so you can see the 
caller id even when the speech is turned off. They used to do a 24 cell version 
of the Braille connect too, but Humanware never sold any in this country (UK), 
which is a real shame in my opinion.
Cheers
Thuy

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On 31 Mar 2012, at 21:08, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:

 Hello Thuy.
 
 I know what the product is now and have cancelled the order. I already have a 
 Euro braille 40 and may be one day I want a 24 cell (in my dreams)!
 
 Thanks for replying.
 
 Kawal.
 
 On 31 Mar 2012, at 02:27 PM, Thuy Mallalieu tmallal...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi  Kawal. Isn't this Braille input only? I have the Braille pen 12, which 
 has the display and Braille keyboard, but that's just under 1K. It has 
 really nice Braille dots and good keyboard, but no cursor routing, which 
 makes it a bit of a pain editing texts  and activating apps. Also, the 
 command to wake it up is space with K, which overridess  the keyboard help 
 command. Hope this helps?
 Cheers
 Thuy
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 30 Mar 2012, at 16:14, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 I have just purchased the Slim Braille Pen, priced at £295 the cheapest 
 refreshable braille I have seen so far although I do have a Euro braille 40 
 which I use as well.
 
 Just wish to know if anyone has used this  either their mac or I phone?
 
 All experiences are welcome.
 
 Kawal.
 
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Re: Help on keyboard problem

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Hi moses. If you turn off the speech with three finger double tap, you can 
always get it to come back on with a rotor dial twist. Hope this helps?
Cheers
Thuy


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On 22 Mar 2012, at 16:11, Moses Choo mosesc...@ncbm.org.my wrote:

 Hi Gigi,
  
 Thanks, the next time around, I will certainly be a little more careful. 
 Some time back, I posted about the problem of the iPhone will repeat the 
 caller during an incoming call.  doing a three fingers double tap  after 
 taking the call will silent it. However, my problem is always forgetting to 
 turn on the speech back. Anyone here have a solution?
  
 Regards,
 Moses.
  
  
  
  
 
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eugenia Firth
 Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 10:48 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Help on keyboard problem
 
 Hi Moses.
 I have a suggestion of how the setting get changed. If the rotar is set on 
 the option and you happen to flick your finger on the right place on the 
 screen, then you can make a change. VoiceOver does say it, but I can see how 
 it could not be noticed. 
 
 If I am annoyed by this, I just set the rotar on something like speech rate 
 so that nothing drastic gets changed. 
 
 Regards, 
 Gigi 
 
 Eugenia Firth
 gigifi...@sbcglobal.net
 
 
 
 On Mar 21, 2012, at 10:38 AM, Moses Choo wrote:
 
 Hi Ricardo and all, My was just due to a setting of entry mode set to touch
 typing. Frankly, I do not know how the setting was accidently changed. After
 chatting with friends, we have three of us in Malaysia who have experienced
 such a case.  Hope this will be of help to others. 
 
 Regards,
 Moses.
 
 
 
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 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Moses Choo
 Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 9:30 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Help on keyboard problem
 
 Hi Ricardo,
 
 Thanks for responding.   I have already tried the following.
 
 1. Rebooting the phone 
 2. Set for forget all my bluetooth keyboards.
 
 What I have not done is to use the reset to factory default. My phone is an
 iPhone 4 and I have upgraded to version 5.1.  If I were to reset, will it go
 back to version 4.1? 
 
 Frankly, I think it is the Voiceover that is at problem.  Is that a way for
 me just to reinstall the Voiceover? 
 
 Everything works well accept when I want to key in numbers or letters.  All
 other work fine.  I also face this problem when I  reboot and would have to
 key in my 4 digit pin. The only way to do it is to turn off the Voiceover
 and get someone who can see to help me. 
 
 However, when I use my bluetooth keyboard, it works okay.  There are times
 that I do not bring along my keyboard, hence I would like to be able to use
 the screen keyboard as wel..
 
 I look forward to some advice. 
 
 Regards
 Moses.
 
 
 
 
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 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
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 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Help on keyboard problem
 
 Hi,
 
 try going to settings/general/bluetooth and have the phone forget the other
 BT keyboards you've paired and restart the phone.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Mar 20, 2012, at 12:04 PM, Moses Choo mosesc...@ncbm.org.my wrote:
 
 Dear all,
 
 I have installed several Bluetooth keyboard recently and have landed 
 my
 self in a little problem.  My last was to install the RIVO Bluetooth
 keyboard.
 
 Now when I do not want to use any Bluetooth keyboard,  my iphone 
 keyboard
 does not seem to respond well. This problem is present in the following
 situations.
 1.   Dialing,
 2.   2.   Keying in SMS,
 3.   3.   Keying in passwords for updating.
 
 I will be able to click the shift key, however, when typing other 
 keys,
 the key board just doesn't respond. However, if I turn off the Voiceover and
 use it as a normal iphone, than it will be okay.  
 
 Would appreciate some form of advice.
 
 Regards,
 Moses.
 
 
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Re: new episode of getting started with garageband

[Thuy]

Hi Ricardo. That's great news. Please keep me informed as soon as you
do get a tutorial with GB on IOS? I've been dabbling with it a bit and
have a few struggles with it, especially outputting to external MIDI
devices and editing. If you have any good work arounds, please let me
know?

Cheers

Thuy


On 08/12/2011, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi folks,

 I know its been a while but, I just put up a new garageband podcast.  I go
 more into manipulating regions and importing audio samples.  You can listen
 at
 http://goo.gl/F9op7

 I hope to have another episode out demoing garageband on IOS before the new
 year.  I'm not sure If I'll make this date but, I'll try.

 hth

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Re: spotify and the Mac

[Thuy Mallalieu]

The last time I tried it on Mac I really struggled. Seems to work well on iOS 
devices though but unfortunately you can only run that version if you pay for a 
premium account. 

Sent from my iPhone

On 24 Nov 2011, at 19:16, Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote:

 My brother was telling me about a program called spotify. It is used to 
 listen to music of all types. Instead of buying music, you just search for an 
 artist and you can listen from your computer as much as you like. I 
 downloaded the application for the Mac but it doesn't seem to be accessible. 
 Does anyone know if it is accessible on windows and or on an IOS device?
 
 Kev
 
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Re: NantWorks Object Recognition Technology Wins FCC Chairman's Award

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Mine seems to have stopped working too although I haven't tried it since ios5 
yet. It used to just emit a flute note.

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On 28 Oct 2011, at 10:49, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote:

 FUnny, works just fine on my phone. So, when you say it does not work, in 
 what way does it not work?
 
 On Oct 27, 2011, at 10:03 PM, Tammy Cantrell wrote:
 
 Wonder if that was before it was improved to the point it does not work on 
 my phone?  Just curious.
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 Have a great day All!
 
 Smiles,
 
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 NantWorks Object Recognition Technology Wins FCC Chairman's Award
 
 An Early Win for Newly Formed NantWorks LLC, LookTel Turns a Smart Phone 
 into a Device That Helps the Blind to See
 
 LOS ANGELES, Oct 27, 2011 (BUSINESS WIRE)
 
 NantWorks LLC, the company formed by Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong in September 
 this year, announced that its LookTel technology had been selected as a 
 winner of the Federal Communications Commission's (FCC) Chairman's Awards 
 for Advancements in Accessibility. The award, which recognizes outstanding 
 efforts to advance communications accessibility for people with 
 disabilities, will be presented at a ceremony at FCC headquarters in 
 Washington D.C. on October 28th 2011.
 LookTel was developed for the blind and visually impaired. It enables a 
 standard smart phone to be used to recognize objects such as currency bills, 
 packaged goods, medication bottles, storefronts and landmarks. Recognition 
 happens in real time, without delay, and the device will speak the identity 
 of the object, for example the denomination of a bill.
 We are honored to have been chosen for this award from the FCC, said Dr. 
 Soon-Shiong, and delighted to be able to bring forward this important 
 recognition platform, which is going to make a difference to many people's 
 lives.
 About NantWorks
 NantWorks LLC is a company founded and led by Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong. Its 
 mission is to converge semiconductor technology, supercomputing, advanced 
 networks and augmented intelligence to transform how we work, play and live. 
 Early applications will be in the field of scientific research and 
 healthcare. For more information, see www.nantworks.com .
 SOURCE: NantWorks LLC
 
 
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  310 405 7539
  jhod...@nantworks.com
 
 
 
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Re: question about lion

[Thuy]

Yeah, I bought it through the app store the other day and it took some
time just to download the file, but gives you a slightly misleading
message about installing which is dimmed anyway. Eventually, once it's
downloaded, it will bring up the installer. I would suggest that you
close it at that point, and then go into your applications folder and
make a copy of the downloaded 'install mac os app' file for
safekeeping as it will remove itself once you go through the
installation process.

Cheers

Thuy



On 30/09/2011, musiclady mumwith2k...@gmail.com wrote:
 I bought lion just now.  It says it's installing, but it's
 dimmed.  What do I need to do? Do I just wait for it to complete?
 Thanks.
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Re: Backspacing on a BrailleConnect with Voiceover

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Hi Jessie. I have the BrailleConnect 12 and if it's anything like that
model, you need to use the navigation keys (d1-d6). It's the
equivalent of the chords that you normally do with space plus Braille
letter. The chord is a d-chord, which in the case of the
BrailleConnect would be d1-d4-d5. Hope this helps.

Cheers

Thuy


On 09/06/2011, Jessie Kirchner jessiekirch...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi List,

 I'm using a BrailleConnect 24 with my Mac to read and enter Braille into
 documents, but I can't figure out how to backspace over mistakes.  There's
 nothing in the Assign Commands table either.  Is there any way not to have
 to use the computer keyboard?  I'm probably missing something.

 Thanks,
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Re: 6th gen Ipod nano

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I did a google search on the topic and it seems that it is available
and will only show up if you plug headphones with built-in mic into
the 6th gen nano.



On 31/01/2011, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:
 Cortney,

 I have not seen any voice memo feature on the 6th Gen.

 That is not to say that it is not there; I hate giving absolute answers as
 it is so easy to miss something.  The best way to learn for certain if no
 one can answer for certain is to check out the CNET reviews.  They are
 pretty thorough with regard to device features.

 Mark
 On Jan 31, 2011, at 7:07 AM, Courtney Curran wrote:

 Hi,
 Also, one other question I forgot to ask, does it have voice memos?
 Courtney

 On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:26 AM, M. Taylor wrote:

 Hello Cortney,

 Yes, the 6th gen Nano does have a clock.  As for the cross-fade, I think
 so but have not looked for that feature.

 Mark
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:11 PM, Courtney Curran wrote:

 Hi,
 Can the music app on the Ipod Nano have the ability to crossfade? Also,
 does the 6th gen Ipod nano have a clock?
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Re: 6th gen Ipod nano

[Thuy Mallalieu]

Do you know if it's possible to pause a recording and resume without creating a 
new file each time?

Sent from my iPhone

On 31 Jan 2011, at 21:43, Kawal Gucukoglu kawal_gucuko...@sent.com wrote:

 Yes, it has Voice memos on page 4.
 On 31 Jan 2011, at 15:07, Courtney Curran wrote:
 
 Hi,
 Also, one other question I forgot to ask, does it have voice memos?
 Courtney
 
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 Hello Cortney, 
 
 Yes, the 6th gen Nano does have a clock.  As for the cross-fade, I think so 
 but have not looked for that feature.
 
 Mark
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 Can the music app on the Ipod Nano have the ability to crossfade? Also, 
 does the 6th gen Ipod nano have a clock?
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Re: mac os x accesibility with note takers

[Thuy]

Yeah. This is particularly cool with the Braillesense 18 (onhand).
Only thing needed now is for it to work with the iphone?


On 19/11/2010, Donna Goodin goodi...@msu.edu wrote:
 Hi Erik,

 wow this is great news.  I have a need for both a braille display and a
 notetaker here at work, so I'm really glad to hear that the sense can serve
 both functions.  thanks for the info.
 Donna
 On Nov 19, 2010, at 6:51 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:

 Hi Donna,

 They have the braille sense working quite nicely with mac OS at this
 point.  You can transfer files back and fourth using mobile disc mode, or
 you can use it as a usb or bluetooth braille terminal.

 The sense is just ridiculous with jaws and you can forget all about it
 since driver signing emerged in version 11.

 Best,

 Erik Burggraaf
 User support consultant,
 One on one access technology support and training over the phone or in
 person,
 1-888-255-5194
 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com

 On 2010-11-19, at 6:30 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

 Erik,

 Are you saying that the braille sense works as a braille display with the
 Mac?  I had so many headaches trying to get it to work with JAWs that I
 didn't even try.  This would be very handy if it does.
 Thanks,
 Donna
 On Nov 19, 2010, at 6:27 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:

 Hum,  Well, the victor stream and booksense both work on the mack.
 Braillesense works.  Braille note apex works as a braille terminal.  I
 haven't tested file transfering capabilities.  I haven't tested
 packmate, but so far that looks to me like more than 10% of notetaking
 devices right there, more like 50 percent between compatible and non.
 Then add the braille display support with read/write.  Not everything
 works beautifully, but then it doesn't do that under windows either.
 Your vr might want to do a little more research.

 On the other hand, it's much easier to justify the mac for a student if
 the student is in a mac school.  If the school is all outfitted with
 windows and all the classes are geared to windows, then it doesn't
 follow that a mac won't work, it just seems to make it easier on the
 student and their teachers and support people to be using windows like
 everyone else in the class.

 And before the uproar hits, I know just as many die hard mac users blind
 and sighted who got there in this exact way.  Their school used macs, so
 they used macs and never dealt with windows.

 Best,

 Erik Burggraaf
 User support consultant,
 One on one access technology support and training over the phone or in
 person,
 1-888-255-5194
 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com

 On 2010-11-18, at 6:01 PM, eddy wrote:

 hey eveyone, I am a mac os x user who really likes the way voice over
 works. I have organizations like. DBS division of blind servises and
 other giving their clients who request computers Dell laptops with
 Jaws screen reader installed. what I am aware of is that Jaws alone is
 more than a thousand dollars recently I her two thousand. I wonder why
 organizations like DBS don't just give their client a macbook or a
 machbook pro and be done with it. then they whon't have to pay for
 Jay. and the client can use voice  over which in  my opinion has a
 shorter learning curve. I also recently asked a Vision teacher or V.I
 teacher and she answered that at leat 70=90 percent  of note takers,
 and all other digital devices are not comopatible with mac os x.
 I would like to know what you guys think about this. and if there are
 any high school and college students who are blind or visually
 impaired, Is  a Mac with voice over sufficient enough for all school
 work or do you still need a note taker?


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Re: tiny iphone keyboards

[Thuy Mallalieu]

Hi Sonnia. Freedom also do the I-connex mini which is the same size as the 
iphone itself but much thinner and lighter. You can do everything from it 
including waking up the iphone. Hope this helps. Cheers
Thuy


Sent from my iPhone

On 19 Nov 2010, at 02:39, Sonnia sonnia...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all. I purchased a freedom iconex folding bluetooth keyboard for my
 iPhone 4. It snapped in half and doesn't work anymore. I was wondering
 if anyone had an idea of what mini keyboard i could use for my
 phone. I am hoping i can find a keyboard that's about the size of a
 blackberry or android's keyboard so it's not to bulky. Any
 suggestions?
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Re: 64 bit or 32 bit Mac bootstrapped with W7

[Thuy]

I don't think the question is whether the Mac hardware is capable of
running 64 bit win7, I think I triggered the original concern by
telling her that the win7 os would need to be 64 bit in order to make
use of the full 8 gigs of RAM. Thus the issue is whether she has 64
bit version of Win7 installed on her bootcamp drive and if she is
running 64 bit JAWS and any other applications on the Windows OS?
Cheers

Thuy



On 23/10/2010, LaMcAs lamcas.mailing.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello list



 This is more for a friend but also for clarification.



 She has a Mac Book with 8gb RAM and has W7 Boot Strapped on it.



 So what bit is the Apple Motherboard 32 bit or 64 bit?



 I would hope that as it has 8gb Ram it would be 64 bit.



 She seems to think she is running W7 H P 32 bit - surely if this is a 64-bit
 motherboard it wont allow her to run W7 32-bit?



 I'm not clued up on the Mac at all so asking for clarification on all this,
 does what I'm suggesting make sense?



 Thanks in advance for your input





 HTH



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Re: Me and my KNFB Reader Woos

[Thuy]

Why not get a demo of a screenreader on the phone? Also, if you have a
card reader, copy the installation file onto it, and then go through
the file manager on the phone. Hope this helps.

Cheers

Thuy


On 01/10/2010, VaShaun Jones vashaun.jo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Listers,

 How do I install the KNFB Reader software using the Mac? I don't have a
 screen reader package on the phone so this may make it doublely hard! Any
 help is appreciated!

 VaShaun,

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Re: alternative vm software

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I have compared Parallels and Fusion and have found the latter to be way 
faster. I think there must be an issue with his config because mine was very 
fast even with its default Ram allocation of 512.

Sent from my iPhone

On 14/08/2010, at 21:11, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote:

 If you want the fastest windows experience, boot camp is the way to go, since 
 all of the processor and memory resources are devoted to windows when using 
 it. VMware fusion currently is the only accessible virtualization package for 
 the mac, if you give us more details, we might be able to figure out why it's 
 so slow for you. From what I've heard, parallels is actually faster than 
 fusion, but since it's not accessible, and the company is unwilling to 
 correct this, we can't do much with it.
 On Aug 14, 2010, at 3:10 AM, chad baker wrote:
 
 Hi is there any alternative virtual machine software besides fusion?
 I'm finding it real sluggish.
 I wish virtualbox was accessible.
 I want to try bootcamp but i don't have anyone sighted around.
 Is there a work around or no?
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Re: Iphone and braille note apex

[Thuy Mallalieu]

hi. i frequently have three devices connected. esys 12 braille display from 
eurobraille, freedom keyboard, altec lancing headset. this is with 3gs. 

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On 08/08/2010, at 2:29, Isaac Obie io...@gis.net wrote:

 Hello Sonia,
 Congratulations! That Apex is supposed to behave and connect like charm! 
 After all, this is HumanWare's latest bonus baby! So I guess you'll have to 
 figure something out.
 One thing I learned today is that the iphone 4 seems only able to handle one 
 input device at a time. I wanted to connect a braille display and a keyboard. 
 It wouldn't do it! The guy helping me said he was going to need to talk to 
 the genius bar guys about this one. Have you or anyone else run across this 
 issue? Thanks.
 Isaac
 - Original Message - From: Sonnia sonnia...@gmail.com
 To: MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 9:14 PM
 Subject: Re: Iphone and braille note apex
 
 
 Well i managed to connect the iphone to another braille display (its
 one i rarely use because its clunky but at least i know how to pair
 now!) the iphone can not load the apex drivers so i may need to call
 apple or humanware and see what the next step would be
 
 Isaac Obie wrote:
 Hello Sonia,
 I've just come from the Apple Store. I hooked up a brailleconnect12 to the
 iphine 4. Now it isn't easy to do this. there'are several steps that're not
 spoken. You really need the expert assistance of the Apple people. So why
 don't you let it rest a while and plan to go to your local Apple store and
 let them help you with it???
 Just a suggestion. Obviously you're not getting something right in the setup
 process.
 I didn't try to do it alone. I had the Apple guys do it! It worked well.
 Isaac
 - Original Message -
 From: Sonnia sonnia...@gmail.com
 To: MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 12:59 PM
 Subject: Re: Iphone and braille note apex
 
 
  Update: my brother has an iphone and i turned voice over and bluetooth
  on and it couldn't find the apex either.
 
  Sonnia wrote:
  Hi, I can't search for the apex on my iPhone. I go to settings/
  bluetooth on/searching... and it keeps saying searching but nothing
  else comes on the screen, no list of what devices it finds. and
  bluetooth on the apex and iphone are both turned on
  Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:
   Hi.
  
   Normally the code for bluetooth devices is  or 1234, so it was a
   guess. But I think you can find it in the manual for the apex.
  
   Best regards Annie.
   On Aug 7, 2010, at 3:31 PM, Isaac Obie wrote:
  
Hello Annie,
How did you find this pascode? I've been searching for it for
quite a
while. Thanks.
Isaac
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 8:46 AM
Subject: Re: Iphone and braille note apex
   
   
Hi.
   
Yes the apex is supported.
   
Be sure that bluetooth is turned on on your IPhone.
   
You will have to search for the apex from your IPhone. I think   
 the
code is  or 1234. IF you need further assistance please write
again.
   
Best regards Annie.
On Aug 7, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote:
   
In that case, I'd think that the Braillenotes aren't  supported  
  by
iOS 4 to be used as braille displays.  Best idea though to be   
 sure,
is to check the apple accessibility page at
http://apple.com/accessibility.
On Aug 7, 2010, at 1:37 AM, Sonnia wrote:
   
I found the iphone by searching for it on my braille note and  
  the
services offered were things like hands-free and serial.   
 somehow
the
iphone can not find any bluetooth devises: it keeps saying
searching
but nothing appears
   
Isaac Obie wrote:
Hello Sonia,
If you look in your Apex tutorial, after Options, then u for  
  user
guide, in
there somewhere it should cover pairing with cellphones.
Are you near an Apple Store? I went to one today and we paired 
   my
braille
display with the iphone 4. So look under options, u for user
guide and see
what you can find on pairing with a cellphone
Isaac
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From: Sonnia sonnia...@gmail.com
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Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 11:11 PM
Subject: Iphone and braille note apex
   
   
Hello. I've tried looking online for some good instructions  
  on
how to
pair the iPhone with my braille note apex but I'm still
confused.
Would anyone be able to give a bit of guidance on how to   
 begin?
I read
something about needing a bluetooth pin and i am not sure if  
  i
need
one for the Iphone or apex and where to get that info. Thanks
everyone. :-)
   
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Re: Sonnia Iphone and braille note apex

[Thuy Mallalieu]

Hi. I think you might need to put the Apex into braille terminal mode and tell 
it to use bluetooth for it's connection in the bluetooth manager?

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On 07/08/2010, at 18:06, focus velocity.focu...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi Sonnia!
 I do not use ether device but I know that some bluetooth device's can be 
 hidden your apxx  should not be hidden but the Iphone might!
 if I'm wrong sorry!
 :-]
 On 7 Aug 2010, at 17:35, Sonnia wrote:
 
 Hi, I can't search for the apex on my iPhone. I go to settings/
 bluetooth on/searching... and it keeps saying searching but nothing
 else comes on the screen, no list of what devices it finds. and
 bluetooth on the apex and iphone are both turned on
 Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:
 Hi.
 
 Normally the code for bluetooth devices is  or 1234, so it was a guess. 
 But I think you can find it in the manual for the apex.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 On Aug 7, 2010, at 3:31 PM, Isaac Obie wrote:
 
 Hello Annie,
 How did you find this pascode? I've been searching for it for quite a 
 while. Thanks.
 Isaac
 - Original Message - From: Annie Skov Nielsen 
 annieskovniel...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 8:46 AM
 Subject: Re: Iphone and braille note apex
 
 
 Hi.
 
 Yes the apex is supported.
 
 Be sure that bluetooth is turned on on your IPhone.
 
 You will have to search for the apex from your IPhone. I think the code 
 is  or 1234. IF you need further assistance please write again.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 On Aug 7, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote:
 
 In that case, I'd think that the Braillenotes aren't  supported by iOS 4 
 to be used as braille displays.  Best idea though to be sure,  is to 
 check the apple accessibility page at http://apple.com/accessibility.
 On Aug 7, 2010, at 1:37 AM, Sonnia wrote:
 
 I found the iphone by searching for it on my braille note and the
 services offered were things like hands-free and serial. somehow the
 iphone can not find any bluetooth devises: it keeps saying searching
 but nothing appears
 
 Isaac Obie wrote:
 Hello Sonia,
 If you look in your Apex tutorial, after Options, then u for user 
 guide, in
 there somewhere it should cover pairing with cellphones.
 Are you near an Apple Store? I went to one today and we paired my 
 braille
 display with the iphone 4. So look under options, u for user guide and 
 see
 what you can find on pairing with a cellphone
 Isaac
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 From: Sonnia sonnia...@gmail.com
 To: MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 11:11 PM
 Subject: Iphone and braille note apex
 
 
 Hello. I've tried looking online for some good instructions on how to
 pair the iPhone with my braille note apex but I'm still confused.
 Would anyone be able to give a bit of guidance on how to begin? I read
 something about needing a bluetooth pin and i am not sure if i need
 one for the Iphone or apex and where to get that info. Thanks
 everyone. :-)
 
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Re: skype, iphone 4 and proximity sensor

[Thuy]

I think you might be able to shut down just the skype app by
double-clicking the home button, then double tap and hold on one of
the apps till it says that you are editing apps. Then find the skype
app and double tap to delete it from the app switcher. Hope this
helps.

Cheers

Thuy


On 05/08/2010, Yuma Antoine Decaux jamy...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I've got a probme with skype calls when i am done.

 The proximity sensor doesn't switch volume back to speaker and i have to
 shut the phone down each time.


 Anyone got this issue?

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Re: Moving apps on iPod Touch using the Mac

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Hi David. I spent ages trying to move apps around and into folders
etc, and it is doable on the iphone/ipod. It's quite easy to move an
app by one slot either way in order to drop it into a folder or create
a folder from two apps being superimposed. The way I deal with moving
apps and folders is to shunt them onto a separate page so that they
are the only 2 items on that page, then once I have all the apps that
I need in the required folder, I can shift the entire folder onto an
earlier page. Bear in mind that it will place the apps in the order in
which you slot them into the folders. It's also easy if you only have
one or two items on a page just to throw the app back out of the
folder if you make a mistake. So if I want to order apps
alphabetically, I just go into the folder and find the app I want,
chuck it out of the folder, and place it back inside it again. That
way, I know it's going to be the most recently added app in the list
inside the folder. Hope this helps?

Cheers

Thuy


On 06/07/2010, David Hole balubathebr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi everyone.
 Can someone here tell me if it is possible to move applications on the
 iPod Touch or iPhone by using the Mac?
 It's mostly impossible to dreag the apps where I want it when I do it on
 the device :(
 Also sighted people had problems doing this when I asked them to help.

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Re: reading ibooks on iphone with braille display?

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Hi Donna. I have been able to make this work with my eurobraille
esys12 and the iphone 3gs running ios4. To find out the key commands
from the braille display, go into the voiceover practise gesture area
and try out different combinations. Mine has two options for a lot of
functions including the page up and down. If you have input keys,
sometimes a chord will work? With mine I have a left joystick or I can
do it with the o-chord or ow-chord . Sometimes it changes the page,
but doesn't always refresh it on the display unless you move out of
the text area into the bookmark button and then back into the text
area, you might be lucky? Hope this helps?

Cheers

Thuy

On 30/06/2010, Donna Goodin goodi...@msu.edu wrote:
 I haven't yet found a way to assign keys on the iphone.
 Donna
 On Jun 30, 2010, at 9:54 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:

 Hi, can you not manually assign a key to do this?  Unfortunately I don't
 have the IPhone 4 yet, though I am extraordinarily covetous and will
 probably try to justify the expense in the next several months.  It should
 be possible one way or the other though, and as long as you are
 interacting with the page that should take care of the focus issue.  I'll
 admit I'm super intrigued by the possibility of Ibooks.

 Best,


 Erik Burggraaf
 User support consultant,
 Website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
 Toll-free: 888-255-5194

 On 2010-06-30, at 9:56 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

 Anyone had much luck with this?  I'm using and Alva BC640.  First,  there
 doesn't seem to be a command for the 3-finger flick to simulate turning
 the page, so you have to use the page chooser.  This works OK, except
 that once I've chosen a page, the only way I've found to get the braille
 display to the page content is to pick up my iphone and touch the text.
 Just wondering if anyone's found an easier way to do this.
 Best,
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Re: reading ibooks on iphone with braille display?

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Hi Donna. Can you try some chords? Also, it calls it page right and page left.

Cheers

Thuy

On 30/06/2010, Donna Goodin goodi...@msu.edu wrote:
 Hi Thuy,

 Interesting.  I did go into practice gestures, and was surprised to find
 that there weren't too many commands available.  I wonder if this could be
 unique to the Alva.  The basics were there, of course, navigate left/right,
 move to next item, touble-tap item, but I saw nothing for page-down.  I'll
 check again, but maybe I'll drop Apple a quick note about this.
 Thanks,
 Donna
 On Jun 30, 2010, at 10:53 AM, Thuy wrote:

 Hi Donna. I have been able to make this work with my eurobraille
 esys12 and the iphone 3gs running ios4. To find out the key commands
 from the braille display, go into the voiceover practise gesture area
 and try out different combinations. Mine has two options for a lot of
 functions including the page up and down. If you have input keys,
 sometimes a chord will work? With mine I have a left joystick or I can
 do it with the o-chord or ow-chord . Sometimes it changes the page,
 but doesn't always refresh it on the display unless you move out of
 the text area into the bookmark button and then back into the text
 area, you might be lucky? Hope this helps?

 Cheers

 Thuy

 On 30/06/2010, Donna Goodin goodi...@msu.edu wrote:
 I haven't yet found a way to assign keys on the iphone.
 Donna
 On Jun 30, 2010, at 9:54 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:

 Hi, can you not manually assign a key to do this?  Unfortunately I don't
 have the IPhone 4 yet, though I am extraordinarily covetous and will
 probably try to justify the expense in the next several months.  It
 should
 be possible one way or the other though, and as long as you are
 interacting with the page that should take care of the focus issue.
 I'll
 admit I'm super intrigued by the possibility of Ibooks.

 Best,


 Erik Burggraaf
 User support consultant,
 Website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
 Toll-free: 888-255-5194

 On 2010-06-30, at 9:56 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

 Anyone had much luck with this?  I'm using and Alva BC640.  First,
 there
 doesn't seem to be a command for the 3-finger flick to simulate turning
 the page, so you have to use the page chooser.  This works OK, except
 that once I've chosen a page, the only way I've found to get the
 braille
 display to the page content is to pick up my iphone and touch the text.
 Just wondering if anyone's found an easier way to do this.
 Best,
 Donna

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Re: Finding An Old Love On A New Device

[Thuy]

Hey Mark. Is it possible to generate voice clips with other TTS
engines on the Mac? When I set up my girlfriend's shuffle with VO, it
automatically used Alex, and I didn't have any choices. I wanted to
use one of the Acapella voices from Infovox, but wasn't able to do
that even when I had set up the system voice to Lucy or Rachel. Any
ideas?

Cheers

Thuy


On 10/05/2010, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:
 Hello Everyone,

 I am cross-posting this to both the Mac and iPhone mailing lists for reasons
 that I hope members of both will understand.  If not, then, I hope you will
 appreciate the mystery.  (Smile)

 CHAPTER 1:
 As my iPhone 3GS is my primary means of communicating with the outside
 world, VoiceOver is the synthesizer I use the most.  As we all know, the
 lovely Samantha is the US English voice/personality.  Unlike many I have
 talked to, I really adore her and for quite a while have been searching for
 a way to bring her to my MacBook Pro.  The search has not gone well.

 CHAPTER 2:
 I exercise 5 days out of the week.  I run between 6 to 7 miles during each
 session.  Until recently, I was moderately satisfied with an off-the-shelf
 MP3 player, used to listen to either music or podcasts during my runs.  It
 had always been my intention to purchase RockBox but, as I do not own a
 compatible device, the purchase had been placed on the virtual shelf, to
 coin a phrase.

 CHAPTER 3:
 Three days ago, I stopped in at one of my local Apple stores.  While there,
 I decided to purchase a 16GB Black 5th Generation iPod Nanno.

 Upon attaching the Nanno to my Windows iTunes PC, I discovered that I could
 generate the menu and items voice from any of my computer system's installed
 voices.  As I have both ZoomText and Jaws installed on the computer in
 question, I have a wide variety of high quality SAPI 5 voices from which to
 choose.  I was almost ready to make a selection when I discovered that there
 is an option to generate the Nanno's spoken menu and items synthesizer using
 VoiceOver.

 Generating spoken menus and items using VoiceOver via a Windows
 computer?  Yep!!!  You heard me right.

 Ever the Curious George, I selected this option.

 Imagine my delight to discover that after iTunes and the Nanno danced the
 Technology Tango, I found that my old love, Samantha, is the synthesized
 voice on my new Nanno.

 CHAPTER 4:
 So, instead of purchasing both a new MP3 player and a copy of RockBox, I
 will now use my new Nanno, graced with the presence of my beloved Samantha,
 to, as the saying should have gone, Run west, young man, run west.

 Oh!  And for those of you who may be wondering why I simply don't use my
 iPhone 3GS as an MP3 player during my runs?  It's because I can more easily
 protect the Nanno against sweat and damage.  Also, I prefer to conserve as
 much battery power on my 3GS as possible.

 The End

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Re: Teathering with an i pad with a wireless ipad and iphone 3G s

[Thuy]

Hi Scott, I think that in the UK, tethering is only possible if you
aren't  on the O2 network. I have a friend who is able to tether with
his iphone, but it's on Orange with a limited data plan. I'm with O2
and an unlimited data plan, but can't tether with my iphone.

Cheers

Thuy

On 04/05/2010, Scott Ballard-Ridley scott.ballardrid...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi all i am in the U.K where i phone teathering is allowed. I am definately
 ordering an ipad on May 10th but i am now having doubts about getting the 3G
 version based on reports from the U.S. My question therefore is if i can get
 teathering on an iphone could i teather it to a normal wireless ipad?

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Re: house full of apples, and question about time capsule

[Thuy]

Regarding the time capsule, does anyone know if there's a way to make
the storage drive visible to the network without having to run the
airport utilitity on each machine? It's just that I want to use it as
a network attached storage device that I can access from my Braille
note takers and other mobile devices. Hope someone can help me out?

Cheers
Thuy


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 Olivia,
 If we can't help each other, what's the point?

 Sent from the iPad I wish I had

 On Apr 30, 2010, at 5:07 PM, olivia norman olivianor...@gmail.com wrote:

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Re: jumping to text in safari

[Thuy]

Hi. I always use vo and F. It usually takes me to the right place, but
doesn't always let me VO arrow around until I've done a say all
command (vo A). In fact, it's great with gmail, when I've opened a
conversation/thread: I just search for the phrase 'show original',
then it takes me to the start of a message area. I usually lock the VO
keys with VO and semicolon, then do the find with just the letter F,
type in the phrase and press enter. Then Iget taken to the start of
the message area, so I can just press the letter A to read to end.
When the message is finished, I just type the letter G to find the
next occurrence of the phrase, and A to read to end. This works really
well for skimming through gmail conversations. Hope this helps.

Cheers

Thuy


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 Hi everyone. How do I find text and then move to it in Safari? I tried doing
 command f typing in what I'm looking for and then pressing enter but it
 won't take me to the location.

 May and Wyn

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Re: creating ringtones from my own mp3's

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No the ringtone has to have a file extention of .m4r for it to be
recognised as a ringtone I think.
Hope this helps?

Thuy


On 06/02/2010, Dean Adams d...@internode.on.net wrote:
 Hey Joe,
  Please send me the info on the iringer and the Iphone email
 list thanks I have goldwave and tried to convert the mp3 which I cut
 down to 30 seconds but it said that it was not able to convert it to
 a ringtone for some reason even though it was in acc format for the
 apple products. I found iringer and have created a test ringtone and
 sent it to my son who has an iphone 3gs so fingers crossed.

 Regards Dean


 At 09:25 PM 6/02/2010, you wrote:
You can use your own ringtones for your IPhone with out jail breaking it. I
recommend you use gold wave or what ever on the Mac side of things to get
the ring tone like you want it and then use a program like iringer to
convert it to the format you need to put it on your IPhone. This converter
will convert it and add it to iTunes in the correct place for you. Then all
you need to do is hook your IPhone to iTunes check the ringtones you want
 on
your phone and sync it. If need the site to iringer I will be glad to give
it to you. Also there is a list dedicated to the IPhone and will be glad to
give that to you also.



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[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 4:55 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: creating ringtones from my own mp3's

If you jail break your IPhone, I believe you can then use your own mp3
 files
as ring tones.



  But I'm not sure how much jail breaking the device screws up the workings
for VO. It does in a few cases at least it did on a friend of mines device.
Some of his apps no  longer worked correctly .



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Sent: Saturday, 6 February 2010 6:33 p.m.
To: macvisionaries list
Subject: creating ringtones from my own mp3's



Hey All,
 I am very strongly thinking of getting an Iphone in may this year
the only thing that I don't like so far is the fact that you can't use you
own music from mp3's to use as ringtones is this correct or is there an app
for the Iphone that gets around this problem and what is the general
thoughts as far as accessibility on the iphone any input will be much
appreciated to make my final choice.
Regards Dean



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Re: New Line New Line!

[Thuy]

Hi. I get the new line and return notifications all the time in the
electronic text files from the talking newspaper association in the
UK, and it is very annoying. I used to be able to train VO to remain
silent by placing the offending characters in the pronunciation
dictionary, but have not been able to do that since Snow Leopard, or
maybe I did manage to get rid of the new line, but not the carriage
return.

cheers


Thuy


On 16/01/2010, Nicolai Svendsen chojiro1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 It'd be the same thing as JAWS or other screen readers saying Blank. I'd
 rather have some feedback than none at all when using the arrow keys. I
 don't get what the big deal is.

 Regards,
 Nic
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 My Twitter

 On Jan 16, 2010, at 5:35 AM, Dan Roy wrote:

 That's to bad, perhaps, a note to accessibility, thanks.  This can get
 quite annoying!



 On Jan 14, 2010, at 1:27 AM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote:

 I don't think this can be avoided.
 On Jan 14, 2010, at 12:01 AM, Dan Roy wrote:

 Has anyone found a way to stop VO from saying new line when it
 encounters a blank line in a message?  i have been through the verbosity
 stuff and don't seem to be getting anywhere.  I am sure I'm missing
 something, or, am I?


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Re: problems with itunes and custom settings for rip to mp3

[Thuy]

Yes. I found the same problems too. I think it's only an issue with
Voiceover, because when I mentioned it to a sighted friend, he told me
that his settings took hold. I was able to get round it by mouse
clicking with the VO-Shift-Space and clicking on each of the settings
as well as the OK button, and even then, sometimes only one parameter
would change, and I needed to go back into the import settings several
times until the settings took hold. You might also need to click on
the desired popup checkbox, then the neighbouring one, and then back
to the one you require in order to make it stick? Hope you can get it
sorted?

Cheers

Thuy



On 02/01/2010, Jake j.schm...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi
 Wow, I just tried this and I'd definitely call this a bug. It's not
 just with 320 kbps either, but any time I try to use a custom MP3
 encoder preset. I didn't notice this before because I use AAC, but I
 just tried setting up a custom mp3 preset and it will not do anything
 except 160. It's not VO misreading the new settings either, if I go
 back into the import settings it's set at 160 again, and it happens
 both with and without VBR enabled. It also won't accept any other
 settings, it's not just bitrate. That's a nasty one.
 A good cd ripper is Max from
 http://www.sbooth.org
 It's more advanced than iTunes' ripping features and I know its MP3
 encoder correctly handles your bitrate settings as well as any other
 options you set.


 On Jan 2, 9:21 am, Jørgen Skov Nielsen jnoe...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Dónal
 I go to itunes settings, and find the buttom import settings,  here i
 find the popup and set the itunes to custom settings.
 After that i set the mp3 encoding to 320 kbps, after that i press the
 okay buttomm.
 But it don't work, the mp3 encoding settings is still set to 160 kbps.
 Best regards
 Jorgen

 2010/1/2, Donal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie:



  Hi Jorgen,

  Can you be more specific about the problems you're having?  I rip at 320
  all
  the time and have experienced no problems at all.

  Cheers

  Dónal

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  Subject: problems with itunes and custom settings for rip to mp3

  Hi All
  I have found out that there are problems with the latest version of
  itunes
  and rip to mp3 files with 320 kbps.

  Therefore, I hear about some of you can help, or if you can recommend
  another ripper / encoder.
  Many greetings and Happy New Year from
  Jorgen

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Re: problems with itunes and custom settings for rip to mp3

[Thuy]

I tried that, but then wasn't sure what the parameters had been set to
and how to check the checkboxes in the popups, as I only know how to
press buttons using the VO-Space keystroke.
Cheers

Thuy



On 02/01/2010, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote:
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 If it's a VoiceOver problem, how about unloading and reloading VO?  I've
 found that this action often fixes various issues I have encountered.  Not a
 long-term solution, but for now, that might work.

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Re: Menus in Dock

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Hi Chris. I had the same problem when I wanted to keep my textedit
alias in the dock. The only way I could get to the shortcut menu was
to do VO-shift and M and then use the arrow keys to select the
shortcut menus. Hope this helps
cheers Thuy


On 09/12/2009, Chris Hofstader c...@hofstader.com wrote:
 Hi,

 My wife got up and I asked to borrow her eyes for a few moments.  I had
 mentioned that Adium and Syrinx Dock menus could no longer be reached since
 I moved them into the Run at Login category.  I then launched Mail and I
 could no longer use its or any other running program's Dock menu.

 With sighted assistance, though, I learned that the menus were actually
 coming up but that the background was going dim and the menus were popping
 up but VO couldn't or chose not to read them.

 Programs and folders not already open at this point  (Safari, Applications,
 etc.) behaved normally with VO speaking their menu contents as one would
 expect.

 Has anyone seen this problem before?  If so, how did they fix it?

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Re: slight accessibility issue with fusion 3

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Hi John. I tried to follow your instructions for gaining keyboard
control of the virtual machine, but unfortunately, when I tried to
restart VO, The keyboard stopped working and all I got was a bing
noise. I had no control of the Mac at all and no Voiceover, so the
only solution was to do a hard reset. I am using the Bootcamp
partition as my VM and it seems to boot up fine, but as I said before,
I can't get any keyboard control over it. Any advice would be great?
The VM is an old one that was set up with Leopard and Fusion 2, but
the upgrade to Fusion 3 seemed to be fine and the Virtual machine
boots up and automatically installed the latest VMware tools, which
has messed up the JAWS video intercept, but I'm hoping that will be
easy enough to solve if only my keyboard would work?

Cheers

Thuy




On 01/11/2009, John J Herzog johnjher...@gmail.com wrote:

 Deborah,
 I'm not exactly sure what you are asking here.
 You are correct that the virtual machine window is the one that
 contains all the settings, at least in the default view.
 So, here's what you can do.
 If on the virtual machine window, VO past the tool bar and before all
 the settings. You will hear voiceover say progress indicator. Next,
 turn voiceover off briefly, and hit command G. Note, sometimes you
 have to do it twice. This will put the keyboard input through to the
 actual virtual machine. Once this has been  done, you can turn
 voiceover back on, and all should work as expected.
 Does that answer your question? If not, could you please be more
 specific?

 John

 On Oct 31, 2009, at 10:56 PM, Debra Turner wrote:


 Hi John and List,

 I think this is some of my problem. After the Dvd drive became
 inactive when
 trying to install  Windows 7, windows running as well as shutdown
 and
 restart was in the virtual machine menu. How do I highlight the
 virtual
 machine window?  Is that the window where all the settings for
 sharing the
 hard disk and other devices are located?

 Would I have been more successful had I installed Windows 7 under
 Fusion 2.0
 which is what came in the cd version of the software and then
 upgraded my
 Fusion to version 3.0? Has anyone installed any windows under 3.0 yet?

 Debra
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 Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:32 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: slight accessibility issue with fusion 3


 Hi listers,
 Having just acquired fusion 3, I thought I would pass my experiences
 along with voiceover. For the most part, everything remains
 accessible. However, when running and using your virtual machine,
 there is no longer a scroll area. Thus, you cannot VO to the area and
 start using the keyboard to control the VM. Instead, it is necessary
 to highlight the virtual machine window, turn voiceover off, and hit
 command plus G to direct input to the virtual machine. After this,
 turn voiceover back on, and everything works as expected.
 Note: I seem to have a similar problem even when running win XP in
 full screen mode. Voiceover does not seem to yield keyboard control
 initially to the virtual machine. To fix this, turn VO off when you
 highlight your virtual machine window for the first time. Next, turn
 it on again, and everything works from there on out. Note: You can
 even command tab to other applications, and when you come back, the
 keyboard will control your virtual machine as expected.
 Kind of quirky, but it works just fine and seems to be a bit faster
 than version 2 as well.

 Hth

 John




 


 


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Re: skype on the iphone

[Thuy]

Hi Rebecca. I use Fring, which is an instant messaging/voice over ip
app which includes skype.
http://maccessibility.net/iphone/apps/#
the maccessibility site is a brillint resource for all things Apple
including Macs and IPhones. You can get a whole list of accessible
apps for the iphone at
http://maccessibility.net/iphone/apps/
Fring has a few unlabelled buttons, but it's fairly easy to guess what
they are, for instance, if you need to dial a number, there is a
numpad which just says 'button' on each one. You can press one of them
and see what digit has been put in the display and basically count
your way through the unlabelled buttons. Hope this helps?

Cheers

Thuy

On 17/09/2009, Rebecca Redmile amrywoddyddiauheu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is there a particular skype ap that's accessible? The one I downloaded
 is not as accessible as it might be, or I'm doing it wrong. It says I
 have three contact requests but no matter how I try and access what
 they are, it won't read them. Now it's reading a list of presumably
 the letters of the alphabet under which heading I might have contacts,
 so for instance it says A C D E F  H L etc. but that's the extent of it.
 The other thing that's causing me problems is how to sync skype
 contacts between IPhone and Mac? I thought they would sync if you
 checked that box in the cell phone settings scroll area in ITunes, but
 it seems it only works one way, if at all. Any help would be
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Re: Selecting between multiple cities on the IPhone?

[Thuy]

Hi Vic. you have to use the top of your finger pads like a pianist.
Bunch your index, middle and ring fingers on the right hand together
and swipe at a medium speed, exerting fairly little pressure (just
enough to depress strings on a guitar when placing them on the frets).
Swipe to the right to go down to page 1. It's not always instantly
responsive, so you might have to give it a few tries?

Cheers

Thuy


On 28/08/2009, Victor Tsaran vtsa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Thuy,
 Perhaps there is something wrong with my gestures but i would always end
 up with showing city 2 of 2, in other words, it would only let me
 display the last city.

 On 8/26/2009 6:10 AM, Thuy wrote:

 Hey Vic. You need to do a three finger swipe left or right to go
 through the pages that display each city.
 Hope this helps?

 Thuy


 On 26/08/2009, Victor Tsaranvtsa...@gmail.com  wrote:

 Hello all,
 I am sorry for asking this silly question, but I can't figure out how to
 switch between multiple cities in the weather widget on the IPhone.
 I've added several of them but can only access the last one. I've tried
 all the gestures I could think of, but nothing works.

 Thanks for any advice.
 Vic

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Re: Selecting between multiple cities on the IPhone?

[Thuy]

Hi I'm in the UK, and it seems to work OK for me. Not sure how
accurate the yahoo weather is though? It always seems to be a couple
of degrees lower than the BBC and the actual temperatures. I might try
and see if you can change the weather centre information that it uses?
Ideas anyone?

On 26/08/2009, Søren Jensen s...@coolfortheblind.dk wrote:

 Does this widget only works in the US?
 Best regards:
 Søren Jensen
 Mail  MSN:
 s...@coolfortheblind.dk
 Website:
 http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/

 On 26/08/2009, at 15.10, Thuy wrote:


 Hey Vic. You need to do a three finger swipe left or right to go
 through the pages that display each city.
 Hope this helps?

 Thuy


 On 26/08/2009, Victor Tsaran vtsa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello all,
 I am sorry for asking this silly question, but I can't figure out
 how to
 switch between multiple cities in the weather widget on the IPhone.
 I've added several of them but can only access the last one. I've
 tried
 all the gestures I could think of, but nothing works.

 Thanks for any advice.
 Vic

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Re: Selecting between multiple cities on the IPhone?

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Hey Vic. You need to do a three finger swipe left or right to go
through the pages that display each city.
Hope this helps?

Thuy


On 26/08/2009, Victor Tsaran vtsa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello all,
 I am sorry for asking this silly question, but I can't figure out how to
 switch between multiple cities in the weather widget on the IPhone.
 I've added several of them but can only access the last one. I've tried
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Re: Logging into Gmail

[Thuy]

Hi Scott. I use gmail and it works fine with the mail app on the
iphone through imap. You can get around the captcha problem with
solona.net. Once you're into your mail setings you will have to make
sure that imap is enabled. Also, I find that the 'basic html' view is
better and you can go straight to that with
mail.google.com/mail/h/
Hope this helps?

Cheers

Thuy


On 24/08/2009, Scott Howell s.how...@verizon.net wrote:

 I was trying to access my gmail account via the web at http://www.gmail.com
 . Although my password seems to work fine for sending e-mail from
 Apple Mail, it doesn't seem to allow incoming mail. So, my plan was to
 access the website and see if Mail was actually appearing on the site,
 but it won't let me login with the password I have been using for a
 while. Of course the other problem is I had to get help with the
 damned visual verification since the spoken bit didn't work as
 expected. So, is there another way to reset a password without needing
 the visual verification crap? I did get to a reset page and oddly
 enough after my wife typed in the letters required, it was to send me
 an e-mail on how to reset the password, but incredibly, it never
 showed up. My entire goal was to setup imap instead of pop and maybe I
 should have just left well enough alone. :)
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Re: introduction and a question

[Thuy]

Hi Anna. Fusion is definitely way better than parallels. I did manage
to get parallels to work with jaws some time ago, but the virtual
machine ran very slowly. If I remember this correctly, I first
installed windows through bootcamp and installed jaws also through
bootcamp. Then once parallels was running, I told it to use the
bootcamp installation as its virtual machine. I think that doing
things in that order meant that jaws could run properly. I'm afraid my
memory on all this is a bit hazy as I quickly gave up on parallels and
opted for fusion which seems to work a lot quicker and is more
accessible. Also worth noting that because of the jaws activation
method, you may need to reactivate every time you change major
parameters such as ram memory allocation, because jaws thinks it's a
completely different computer and deactivates itself! Very annoying!
That's why a lot of people recommend wineyes, because it doesn't have
the activation issues. Hope this helps.

Cheers

Thuy


On 21/07/2009, Woody Anna Dresner wadres...@att.net wrote:

 Hi,

 Thanks so much, Esther and Scott, for your help. I appreciate it very
 much. Looks like switching to Fusion makes the most sense. Do I have
 to uninstall and reinstall Windows, or is uninstalling Parallels and
 installing Fusion enough?

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