Re: copying text on an iPhone

[doug . lawlor]

To add to this, if you select characters, words, or lines as options, you have 
to then swipe right and you'll hear the text as it's being selected. You can 
then roter to the "Edit" option and select "Copy" to copy it to the clipboard 
then navigate to another app ,and paste it their. Here is part of your email I 
copied using this method. 

I want to copy the text in an email on my phone and paste it somewhere else.

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> On Apr 5, 2023, at 11:55 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> I want to copy the text in an email on my phone and paste it somewhere else. 
> is there a way to do this? I understand how to paste it. what I’m asking 
> about is how to select and copy text.
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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Re: copying text on an iPhone

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Hi Lorie, 

Yes you can do this. 

1. Use the iOS roter and navigate to "Text Selection"

2. Swipe down and you will hear a number of options related to selecting text. 
I just chose Select all and the text of the email minus the signature was 
selected. 

3. Now roter to "Edit" and choose "Copy". 

Let me know if this helps. 

Best, 

Doug 
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> I want to copy the text in an email on my phone and paste it somewhere else. 
> is there a way to do this? I understand how to paste it. what I’m asking 
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Re: My files don’t show up in the iOS files app on iCloud

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I can never get iCloud to work from the Windows side. I eventually gave up on 
it from a Windows perspective. I'm not sure why you can't see your files 
especially since you are uploading them from a mac. Could your data still be 
syncing by any chance? How much data did you upload? 

Best, 
Doug 


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> On Mar 8, 2023, at 10:27 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
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> OK, so I upgraded to a 50 GB storage plan on iCloud, and then I transferred 
> a slew of files into the iCloud Drive. I made a new folder, called my stuff, 
> not that that’s important, and just copied an entire directories structure 
> from my local dropbox files into that iCloud folder. Well, From the Mac side, 
> I can enter the iCloud Drive account and find all those files and they are 
> all accessible, but on my iPhone when I load the Files app, that folder 
> reports as “empty“. I’ve tried its actions, manual and download come I just 
> don’t know what to do. Any ideas why these files are showing up fine on macOS 
> side but not at all on the Files app in iOS? 
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Re: How much ram and storage should i get?

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Thanks all. That's what I was sort of figuring. Get as much ram and storage as you can afford. Makes sense too. Best, Doug. Douglas Lawlor Email: doug.law...@gmail.comOn Feb 6, 2023, at 11:32 PM, Dave Carlson  wrote:No matter what you think, and no matter what others think, you will always want more RAM and storage later on. So best advice is to start with  as much RAM and storage as your budget allows, and then squeeze more juice out of the carrot and move up to the next higher amount of RAM and storage. You won’t regret spending the extra, and remember that once you get the computer you can’t add more after the fact.I’m sitting on a puny 500 G SSD and sorely wish I had purchased at least 1 Tb when I bought it 4 years ago. 
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How much ram and storage should i get?

[doug . lawlor]

Hello all, 

It's been a long time since I posted here. I'm in the process of purchasing a 
new Mac and was wondering how much ram and storage people are going with these 
days? I mainly want a machine for web and app testing, some word processing / 
text editing, and some single track audio recording. 

Best, 

Doug 

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Re: When It Comes to iPhone, Are You All Thumbs?

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I use mainly Braille Screen Input for typing. Although it takes getting used to at first, It is the best method for me. I started learning bsi after FlickType went away. best, Doug Douglas Lawlor Email: doug.law...@gmail.comOn Jan 19, 2023, at 6:30 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:Well, perhaps because I use a SE 2020  iPhone with orientation locked in portrait mode, I can’t imagine using multi finger typing except with braille screen input when the phone is now in landscape mode. I just tried typing with  four fingers in the keyboard area and got nothing but junk.That’s OK, I have my MacBook Air for real typing needs.
		Best wishes,Jonathan Cohn

On Jan 18, 2023, at 12:15 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:Hi!I hold my phone in my right hand and use all my fingers on the left  to type, except the left thumb which I push to the downside where the charging port is./A18 jan. 2023 kl. 07:55 skrev M. Taylor :Hello All,A friend of mine and I got into a discussion about how we type in iOS, whensending text messages.It started when she asked me if I use my thumbs to type.  Even though I knowthat a great many people use their thumbs to enter text on iPhone,personally I find the technique slow and awkward.How do I enter text in iOS?First, I keep my VoiceOver typing mode set to "Touch Typing."Second, I use a folio case.  Not only does such a case cover the displaywhen not in use, it also provides a nifty way to balance the phone in onehand, fingers-free.When entering text, I open the case, kind of like a book, with the walletside to the left and the phone to the right.  I position the phone case inthe crook of my left hand (where the base of my thumb meets my hand) so thatthe back of the phone, in the case of course, is resting against the palm ofmy left hand, leaving all five digits on my left hand, free.  The wallet side of the case acts as a kind of counter balance so that thephone does not slip out of my hand, even when the phone is tilted, off-axis,so to speak.I use my left thumb to access the letters and numbers, located on the leftside of the onscreen keyboard and the index finger of my right hand, toaccess the letters and numbers located on the right side of the onscreenkeyboard.I hold the phone in the exact same way when using Slide-to-Type; except inthat instance, I use my right index finger, only.Okay, that's my method for entering text on iPhone.  How about you?  What technique do you use to enter text in iOS?When it come to iPhone, are you all thumbs? (smile).Mark-- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/003401d92b09%24d3cfa0c0%247b6ee240%24%40ucla.edu.-- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/71003467-F96F-44C3-8EFE-E02F05A57E25%40pipkrokodil.se.



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Re: Documentation for VoiceOver on the iPhone?

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Hi Mike, 

I just did a quick web search and found the following page which I believe is a 
part of the iPhone user guide. Take a look at the following: 

https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/iphone/iphfa3d32c50/ios

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> On Mar 24, 2022, at 8:56 AM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
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> Your best bet might be to go to Applevis where you can look for what’s new 
> in iOS15. 
> 
>> On Mar 24, 2022, at 05:12, Michael Busboom  wrote:
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>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> Although I have been using VO on the iPhone since the iPhone 4S, I am 
>> wanting to tweak the VO settings on my iPhone 12.  I am wondering if someone 
>> could tell me where I might find that documentation.  When I asked Siri 
>> where I could find VoiceOver documentation, I got two different responses, 
>> depending on how I phrased my question.
>> 
>> Response 1: VoiceOver is already on.
>> 
>> Response 2: I’m over here.
>> 
>> Actually, where can I find documentation for my iPhone 12?
>> 
>> Thanks much,
>> 
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Re: In latest WatchOs, how do I turn off. sleep mode when I wake up early?

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I'm interested in knowing the same thing. It seems if I do it on the phone 
after a certain time it will let me turn off Sleep mode. If I do it before this 
time just the focus mode gets disabled. 

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> Hi all,
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> So it used to be that if I woke up before my alarm went off, I could just 
> turn off sleep and all was well.  But, since upgrading too latest Watch OS, 
> that no longer works.  All it does is turn off the focus.  How do I actually 
> turn off sleep mode, so that my alarm goes off, and my watch calculates my 
> sleep data??
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Re: Amazon app on the I phone using voice over.

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What is happening here is when you select a product Voiceover can't see any of 
the product description: Very strange! 

Doug 

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> On Oct 19, 2021, at 2:10 PM, Katey Jackson  wrote:
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> It’s broken with voiceover on the iPhone as well as without voiceover. Very 
> strange.
> 
> Katey.  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Oct 19, 2021, at 9:07 AM, Fazil  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Yes, I am in Canada and I have problem with Amazon too. I don’t know exactly 
>> when it started but I found out about it on Sunday.
>> Thanks!
>>  
>> From: kawa...@me.com  On Behalf Of kglists via MacVisionaries
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 1:01 AM
>> To: Macvisionaries 
>> Subject: Amazon app on the I phone using voice over.
>>  
>> Hello.
>>  
>> I have the I Phone 12 pro running IOS 15.  I tried buying something on 
>> Amazon using voice over last week but the app isn’t working fully using the 
>> new IOS.  How is anyone using Amazon these days?  I had to use the PC as I 
>> understand that it doesn’t work good with the Mac either.
>>  
>> Thanks.
>>  
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Re: Turning voiceover on and off quickly

[doug . lawlor]

You can fix this by going to Settings, Accessibility, Accessibility Shortcut, 
and making sure this is set to VoiceOver. 

Best, Doug 

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> On Oct 19, 2021, at 6:29 AM, 'Andy Logue' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi all.
>  
> I used to  press the home button, on my iphone, three times to quickly turn 
> voice over off or on again, when handing my phone to a sighted user when they 
> were helping me.
>  
> This no longer seems to work so I've got to go the long way around by going 
> into settings, accessability and then voice over.
>  
> Can anyone tell me of a quick way of doing this, theses days.
>  
> Very best wishes.
>  
> Andy Logue.
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Re: New watch hand gestures

[doug . lawlor]

I don't see anything regarding hand gestures here, but I have the SE. I've 
rooked in the watch app and don't see them:  

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> On Oct 11, 2021, at 6:35 AM, Ian Harrison  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> I’ve enabled this on my watch series 6 in IOS 15 but the watch is not 
> reacting. I’ve restarted both watch and phone. Any ideas?
> Thanks
> Ian
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Re: Recent Siri Changes Remove Call, Email, and Voicemail Features Used by Low Vision and Blind Users

[doug . lawlor]

All of these assistants will always have to go to the cloud to get something. 
The main problem I see is that some of the older demographic, who prefer a 
device that has buttons for doing things, have a great deal of trouble 
adjusting to a touch screen environment. These people would be satisfied with 
something resembling either a candy bar or flip phone. If they could use a 
telephone keypad and get voice feedback they would be happy. I don't think any 
of the major carriors in canada cary such a phone. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 30, 2021, at 11:08 AM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
> 
> Well, until IOS15 Siri had to go to the cloud to get info so I believe 
> privacy compromises were made there to.
> I wonder if the ability to use Siri offline means that certain features were 
> removed.
> This just occurred to me.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 11:05 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Recent Siri Changes Remove Call, Email, and Voicemail Features 
> Used by Low Vision and Blind Users
> 
> One thing to keep in mind, though, Rebecca, is that some of us choose not to 
> use Alexa or Google for privacy reasons.  If that’s the case for his clients, 
> your solution would not work.
> Donna
> 
>> On Sep 30, 2021, at 9:55 AM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
>> 
>> I understand where you are coming from, but would it be possible to use the 
>> double tap feature to open up something like Alexa or the Google Assistant 
>> to carry out certain commands and teach this to clients as a backup to Siri?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of doug.law...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 9:53 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Recent Siri Changes Remove Call, Email, and Voicemail Features 
>> Used by Low Vision and Blind Users
>> 
>> I also prefer to use a keyboard as well. I only use Siri for the most simple 
>> of tasks such as a fast way to open an application or using it on the Apple 
>> watch to get my location if I realized I passed a street I was supposed to 
>> cross. So I'm not a Siri expert by any stretch of the imagination. 
>> Having said that, I agree these features need to be available for a 
>> demographic that need them. 
>> 
>> I really enjoy this discussion. 
>> 
>> Best, 
>> Doug 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Sep 30, 2021, at 8:50 AM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I appreciate your perspective, and I prefer to use a keyboard over touch 
>>> screen when I can.
>>> The population of people you work with who depend on these features are the 
>>> ones being impacted by this.
>>> Apple is not sending a good message here.
>>> Siri has never been one of my favorite digital assistants though.
>>> There is too much emphasis on cameras and not enough stability in software 
>>> as far as I'm concerned i.e. taking out features after advertising them.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>>> Behalf Of doug.law...@gmail.com
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 8:26 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Recent Siri Changes Remove Call, Email, and Voicemail Features 
>>> Used by Low Vision and Blind Users
>>> 
>>> As the president of the CFB, I see a lot of older people who use these 
>>> features. I understand that we should all do our best to learn the iOs 
>>> interface but we also have to understand that a lot of older people just 
>>> want to get the basics done. Even  accomlishing the basics on these 
>>> devices can be quite a difficult task for many users. 
>>> A prime example is writing in braille screen input′ A lot of people are 
>>> just simply not going to get that far. Even simple tasks such as learning 
>>> the concept of singgle and double tapping is a major learning curve for a 
>>> lot of this demographic 
>>> 
>>> . 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 30, 2021, at 7:59 AM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
 
 Thanks for sharing this article.
 I have mixed views on this .
 On the one hand, I think it is important to learn Apple's native user 
 interface, but on the other hand it is very frustrating to lose Siri 
 features that people depend on.
 Does the removal of certain Siri features impact sighted users as well or 
 just the visually impaired?
 It doesn't sound like a Voiceover bug to me.
 This hurts Apple's reputation as a trend setter in accessibility.
 The good news is that if you have an Apple Homepod Mini you can still play 
 voicemails.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
 Behalf Of dan d.
 Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 7:46 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Recent Siri Changes Remove Call, Email, and Voicemail Features 
 Used by Low Vision and Blind Users
 

Re: Recent Siri Changes Remove Call, Email, and Voicemail Features Used by Low Vision and Blind Users

[doug . lawlor]

I also prefer to use a keyboard as well. I only use Siri for the most simple of 
tasks such as a fast way to open an application or using it on the Apple watch 
to get my location if I realized I passed a street I was supposed to cross. So 
I'm not a Siri expert by any stretch of the imagination. 
Having said that, I agree these features need to be available for a demographic 
that need them. 

I really enjoy this discussion. 

Best, 
Doug 

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> On Sep 30, 2021, at 8:50 AM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
> 
> I appreciate your perspective, and I prefer to use a keyboard over touch 
> screen when I can.
> The population of people you work with who depend on these features are the 
> ones being impacted by this.
> Apple is not sending a good message here.
> Siri has never been one of my favorite digital assistants though.
> There is too much emphasis on cameras and not enough stability in software as 
> far as I'm concerned i.e. taking out features after advertising them.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of doug.law...@gmail.com
> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 8:26 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Recent Siri Changes Remove Call, Email, and Voicemail Features 
> Used by Low Vision and Blind Users
> 
> As the president of the CFB, I see a lot of older people who use these 
> features. I understand that we should all do our best to learn the iOs 
> interface but we also have to understand that a lot of older people just want 
> to get the basics done. Even  accomlishing the basics on these devices 
> can be quite a difficult task for many users. 
> A prime example is writing in braille screen input′ A lot of people are just 
> simply not going to get that far. Even simple tasks such as learning the 
> concept of singgle and double tapping is a major learning curve for a lot of 
> this demographic 
> 
> . 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 30, 2021, at 7:59 AM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for sharing this article.
>> I have mixed views on this .
>> On the one hand, I think it is important to learn Apple's native user 
>> interface, but on the other hand it is very frustrating to lose Siri 
>> features that people depend on.
>> Does the removal of certain Siri features impact sighted users as well or 
>> just the visually impaired?
>> It doesn't sound like a Voiceover bug to me.
>> This hurts Apple's reputation as a trend setter in accessibility.
>> The good news is that if you have an Apple Homepod Mini you can still play 
>> voicemails.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of dan d.
>> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 7:46 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Recent Siri Changes Remove Call, Email, and Voicemail Features Used 
>> by Low Vision and Blind Users
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.macrumors.com/2021/09/29/siri-changes-features-removed/
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Re: Recent Siri Changes Remove Call, Email, and Voicemail Features Used by Low Vision and Blind Users

[doug . lawlor]

As the president of the CFB, I see a lot of older people who use these 
features. I understand that we should all do our best to learn the iOs 
interface but we also have to understand that a lot of older people just want 
to get the basics done. Even  accomlishing the basics on these devices can 
be quite a difficult task for many users. 
A prime example is writing in braille screen input′ A lot of people are just 
simply not going to get that far. Even simple tasks such as learning the 
concept of singgle and double tapping is a major learning curve for a lot of 
this demographic 

. 
 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 30, 2021, at 7:59 AM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for sharing this article.
> I have mixed views on this .
> On the one hand, I think it is important to learn Apple's native user 
> interface, but on the other hand it is very frustrating to lose Siri features 
> that people depend on.
> Does the removal of certain Siri features impact sighted users as well or 
> just the visually impaired?
> It doesn't sound like a Voiceover bug to me.
> This hurts Apple's reputation as a trend setter in accessibility.
> The good news is that if you have an Apple Homepod Mini you can still play 
> voicemails.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of dan d.
> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 7:46 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Recent Siri Changes Remove Call, Email, and Voicemail Features Used 
> by Low Vision and Blind Users
> 
> 
> https://www.macrumors.com/2021/09/29/siri-changes-features-removed/
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Re: Problem with Watch OS 8.0

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Hi Paul, 
I can use the workout app here just fine. I can have music playing if I choose 
too, but music comes threw my phone by default. When music starts playing, does 
it play threw the watch or the phone? If music is playing threw the phone you 
should bee able to just double tap the phone screen to stop it: Does that work 
for you? 

Best, 

Doug


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> On Sep 23, 2021, at 5:15 PM, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I am running Watch OS 8.0 on my Watch SE.
> I used to use the Workout App on the latest Watch OS 7 with no problems. 
> Since moving to Watch 8.0 the Workout App insists on playing music during the 
> workout but cannot do so because it needs the NowPlaying App which was on my 
> Watch under Watch OS7 but is no longer on the watch. When I try to download 
> it from the App store the re-download button is dimmed, presumably because 
> this App will not run on Watch OS 8.0.
> Actually I do not want any music during my workout, but cannot see how to 
> stop the workout insisting on music.
> A consequence of this problem is that I cannot get to the menu to end the 
> workout.
> Do you have any suggestions on how to resolve this problem?
> Many thanks … Paul Hopewell
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Re: Selecting Messages in iOS Mail

[doug . lawlor]

>From what I'm seeing here it isn't. Its looking like the filtering is only for 
>display perposes only. I hope i'm wrong about that. 

Doug 


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> On Sep 23, 2021, at 10:10 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
> 
> That does not sound good. What if you want to delete all messages with 
> attachments? Would that be possible?   
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 23, 2021, at 7:58 AM, doug.law...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Thanks Jonathan, 
>> My problem was I had Filtering toggled on which makes the Select all button 
>> disapear.  Turning off Filtering solves this problem. 
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Doug 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Sep 23, 2021, at 6:55 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> In IOS 15 it is two swipes to the left after pressing the edit button.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 23, 2021, at 3:28 AM, doug.law...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Joseph,
 I'm running 15 here and don't see a Select all option when the edit mode 
 is enabled. I've never done this before on iOs 14 so am not sure what to 
 expect here. I may give Apple a call regarding this later today.
 This is interesting to say the least.
 Best,
 Doug
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>> On Sep 22, 2021, at 10:25 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
> I think there's a select all at the very bottom. If you're running 14. I 
> have not updated to 15 yet.
>>> On Sep 22, 2021, at 9:22 PM, doug.law...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> Is there an easy way to select a bunch of messages in iOS Mail on the 
>> iPhone to perform actions such as mark read, Move, Delete, etc? I see an 
>> Edit option, but when I clic'k this I am able to select one message at a 
>> time. I can't figure out a way to select multiple messages.
>> Does anyone know of an easy way to do this?
>> Thanks,
>> Doug
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Re: Selecting Messages in iOS Mail

[doug . lawlor]

Thanks Jonathan, 
My problem was I had Filtering toggled on which makes the Select all button 
disapear.  Turning off Filtering solves this problem. 

Best,

Doug 

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> On Sep 23, 2021, at 6:55 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
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> In IOS 15 it is two swipes to the left after pressing the edit button.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 23, 2021, at 3:28 AM, doug.law...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Joseph, 
>> I'm running 15 here and don't see a Select all option when the edit mode is 
>> enabled. I've never done this before on iOs 14 so am not sure what to expect 
>> here. I may give Apple a call regarding this later today. 
>> 
>> This is interesting to say the least. 
>> 
>> Best, 
>> 
>> Doug
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
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>>> 
>>> I think there's a select all at the very bottom. If you're running 14. I 
>>> have not updated to 15 yet.
>>> 
> On Sep 22, 2021, at 9:22 PM, doug.law...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 
 Is there an easy way to select a bunch of messages in iOS Mail on the 
 iPhone to perform actions such as mark read, Move, Delete, etc? I see an 
 Edit option, but when I clic'k this I am able to select one message at a 
 time. I can't figure out a way to select multiple messages. 
 Does anyone know of an easy way to do this? 
 
 Thanks,
 Doug 
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Re: Selecting Messages in iOS Mail

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Hi Joseph, 
I'm running 15 here and don't see a Select all option when the edit mode is 
enabled. I've never done this before on iOs 14 so am not sure what to expect 
here. I may give Apple a call regarding this later today. 

This is interesting to say the least. 

Best, 

Doug

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> I think there's a select all at the very bottom. If you're running 14. I 
> have not updated to 15 yet.
> 
>> On Sep 22, 2021, at 9:22 PM, doug.law...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> Is there an easy way to select a bunch of messages in iOS Mail on the iPhone 
>> to perform actions such as mark read, Move, Delete, etc? I see an Edit 
>> option, but when I clic'k this I am able to select one message at a time. I 
>> can't figure out a way to select multiple messages. 
>> Does anyone know of an easy way to do this? 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Doug 
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Selecting Messages in iOS Mail

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Hello all,

Is there an easy way to select a bunch of messages in iOS Mail on the iPhone to 
perform actions such as mark read, Move, Delete, etc? I see an Edit option, but 
when I clic'k this I am able to select one message at a time. I can't figure 
out a way to select multiple messages. 
Does anyone know of an easy way to do this? 

Thanks,
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Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)

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I havent used the wallet yet but the app switcher seems to be working fine 
here. 

Best, 

Doug



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> I just upgraded my iPhone XS. I read the list of bug reports on applevis.com, 
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> for my use cases.
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> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  on 
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> Date: Monday, September 20, 2021 at 14:33
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)
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> Hope you enjoy it, but I would advise you not to upgrade to IOS15 yet because 
> some users have reported problems when using the wallet and the app switcher.
>  
> From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:31 PM
> To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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> thanks to all of you who’ve responded.  I’ve ordered iphone se 2020 - it’s 
> coming tomorrow.  Can’t wait.
>  
> Andrew
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> On 20 Sep 2021, at 07:25, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries 
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> Yeah I like my iPhone SE 2020 as well. I'm gonna stick with this phone as 
> long as I can because I really don't like Face ID.
>  
> Regards,
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> Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air
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> On Sep 18, 2021, at 5:01 PM,   
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> The sound quality on the SE is good, but it doesn't match the Mac or iPad.
> The only limitation for the SE2020 is that it doesn't support Lidar, and I do 
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> However, those features are not a priority for me.
> I just hope that it will continue to receive IOS updates now that the iPhone 
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)
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> Hi.
> 
> I must say I am very happy with mine too.
> When I got it, my original SE was still working well, although I was using 
> IOS 11 on it. lol
> 
> It's very responsive and most times I have no issue with it.
> I even enjoy listening to music on it while I work, without any external 
> speaker. The sound quality is quite good.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Take care,
> Tali
> 
> On 9/19/21, skipper8...@gmail.com  wrote:
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> I love the iPhone SE 2020.
> It is the same size as the iPhone 7 and iPhone 8.
> It is fast though there have been complaints about the battery.
> It is the best iPhone I've owned.
> 
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> Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:20 PM
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> Hello,
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> I’ve decided to upgrade from iphone 8 to iphone SE 2nd generation (2020).
> My reasons are to do with the touch ID sensor.  Would you be happy to 
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iPhone 5 screen will not lock

[Doug Lawlor]

Hi all,

I have an iPhone 5 and the screen will not lock. Pressing the lock button will 
take a screen shot. It almost seems like the home button is getting activated 
some how. Restoring the phone from a backup will fix it for about half a day 
and then the whole thing starts again. 
Has anyone seen this before and how did they fix it?

Thanks, 

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Re: Questions about programs

[Doug Lawlor]

Hi Rena,


Notes is the app used for taking quick notes. These notes can then be synced 
across your Macs and any IOS device you have. 
Maps will display apple Maps on your mac.
Keynote is a presentation program something like Microsoft PowerPoint. 

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Re: another mail client?

[Doug Lawlor]

I remember using mutt back in the early 2000s under linux and loved it. I could 
zip through tuns of mail by just using key commands and the action would just 
happen. I can’t find anything today that can match mutt and the speakup console 
screen reader for mail processing. 

Doug

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Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App

[Doug Lawlor]

Hello everyone, 
I'm just wondering if anyone has tried using the KNFB reader with a battery 
something like the mophy juice pack attached? Is there a difference in using 
it? 

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 In 1990 Vocational Rehab and an associated State organization for 
 unemployment purchased the Kurzweil personal reader for me.  That purchase 
 and the technology opened a door to employment for me. Since that experience, 
 I would recommend anything developed by Kurzweil.  It worked then and it 
 works now. 
 
 Kevin
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Sep 21, 2014, at 9:21 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Krister,
 
 I'm not a developer, so make no evaluation whatsoever of how much work they 
 had to do to add the tilt guidance, field of view, and the anti-skewing 
 stuff.  I still think the price was too high, but as Kevin wrote on Friday, 
 it just works.  I know some people put a lot of time into learning to use 
 Prizmo, and I understand that they got good results.  I barely have enough 
 time to breathe each day.  I get up in the morning and am busy till I go to 
 bed at night.  I don't have that kind of time to spend practicing to use an 
 app. So yes, I do think the price is high, but I also know that it meets my 
 needs without requiring a ton of practice time.  So I bought it, and I 
 recommend it to others.
 
 As to your question what if someone else built those same features into a 
 mainstream app, I think that'd be fabulous.  But right now that hasn't 
 happened, so I'm going with the KNFB reader.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Sep 21, 2014, at 3:58 AM, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com 
 wrote:
 
 Well, Prizmo has some kind of guidance similar to the KNFB reader but it 
 seems to be unreliable at times and i don't think it has the tilt sensor. 
 What if that was built in? And another question on the same topic: The way 
 we all, me included skeptical as i am, rave about the KNFB reader, how much 
 do we really know about what the folks have done to make it this good? What 
 if it was only the tilt sensor and the field view report and the rest was 
 an ordinary OCR app? We make it sound like this app is the worlds 8th 
 miracle, what if it ain't? What if some mainstream developer added at leas 
 the guidance that Prizmo already has and a tilt sensor and it became just 
 as good?
 Sorry for sounding skeptical, i'm just wondering about things.
 /Krister
 
 20 sep 2014 kl. 18:41 skrev Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com:
 
 Well, I can certainly agree that assistive isn't always equal to 
 overpriced, and indeed I have owned the flatbed and now own the camera 
 edition Sara, both of which have worked quite well, and with mainstream 
 OCR software and flatbed scanners, really quite excellently.  Anything to 
 lower the cost of investment is always useful though.  I am hoping to 
 standardise on something that is accurate and realistically caters to my 
 needs, and this app looks very promising going forward.  However I do 
 worry that the cost would not be justified if I found another app.  I have 
 had all the mentioned apps so far--TextDetective, TextGrabber, and 
 Prizmo--and have not even been able to choose among these three yet, 
 though Prizmo is now the one on my phone.  Can anyone suggest ways in 
 which any of these three apps might somehow be improved to match the speed 
 and accuracy of KNFB as it now stands?  A difficult question, I know, but 
 I'm hoping someone knows something I don't.  This is mostly an exercise in 
 discovery, of course, since I now own all four of them.
 
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Re: App store in iOs 8?

[Doug Lawlor]

Hello,
I did that and the App Store is now working.



Doug
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 On Sep 18, 2014, at 10:40 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 It appears to be working normally for me.  I was able to check for updates 
 and ensure that they were applied anyway.  Maybe you could close it in the 
 App Chooser then re-open it to see if that makes any difference.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Sep 18, 2014, at 5:39 PM, Doug Lawlor doug.law...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Anybody else having problems using the app store in iOs 8? When I bring it 
 up the only thing I see are the tabs on the bottom of the screen and nothing 
 else. 
 
 Doug
 
 
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Re: anyone know about problems with iBooks in IOS 8?

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Hi Donna, 
Have you tried going into the app swicher, closing iBooks with a 3 finger swipe 
up, pressing home to get back to the home screen, then opening iBooks again? I 
was having similar problems with the app store here and doing the above fixed 
the problem. 



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 On Sep 19, 2014, at 4:19 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Huh, that's strange.  I didn't see it till I upgraded.  Check out my message 
 from this morning, hopefully it will help fix the problem for you.
 Best,
 Donna
 On Sep 19, 2014, at 2:26 PM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote:
 
 Hi!
 I have this issue allready in ios 7.
 SO i am not sure whats going on.
 /A
 19 sep 2014 kl. 00:31 skrev Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com:
 
 Hi all,
 
 Just wondering if anyone knows anything about bugs with the latest iBooks?  
 I upgraded to IOS 8 last night, and installed the update to iBooks.  Now, I 
 can see the publisher's blurb for my books when I click on the Purchased 
 Tab, but that's all I can see.  When I switch to my books, the list is 
 empty, despite the fact that I have several downloaded.  It doesn't matter 
 whether I select My Bookshelf, Titles, or Authors, I see nothing.  I had my 
 sighted husband look at my phone, and he confirmed that the books are not 
 showing up on the screen at all.  Anyone else had this issue?
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App store in iOs 8?

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Anybody else having problems using the app store in iOs 8? When I bring it up 
the only thing I see are the tabs on the bottom of the screen and nothing else. 

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Re: Accessible website for booking flights

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I've always used my travel agent. I've always found that using a travel agent 
is the best when you want to make sure that assistance is requested properly. 

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 I use Orbitz. 
 
 
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Anybody know how to turn off the sound's in voice over in iOS?

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Hello list,
The subject says it all. I am using a braille display and I would like the 
phone to be completely silent when using the braille display. How do I go about 
turning off the sounds that seem to emanate from the phone while using the 
braille display?

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Re: Anybody know how to turn off the sound's in voice over in iOS?

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I figured it out. Here is how to do it. 
Go into settings, choose general, accessibility, VoiceOver. 
Swipe down to the roter settings and double tap. 
There is a sounds option you can enable that will show up in the router which 
will allow you to turn the sounds on and off. 

Doug 

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 The subject says it all. I am using a braille display and I would like the 
 phone to be completely silent when using the braille display. How do I go 
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Re: Anybody know how to turn off the sound's in voice over in iOS?

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That turns off speech but not the sounds. 

Doug

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   Space 1-3-4
 
 From The Believer. . .
  What if it were true?
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 The subject says it all. I am using a braille display and I would like the 
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Re: Express VPN -

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I am using it on the iPhone now. The only thing I am seeing is that open vpn is 
not supported. I contacted them through there live chat and asked them if I 
could use open vpn connect. They told me that this is not compatible with there 
setup. 

Doug 

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 Just thought I'd write back to say I have been using it on the Mac and it is 
 very good.  Extremely fast is the main thing I can think of to differentiate 
 it.  I have not yet tried it on the iPhone but will do so soon.
 
 On Jul 25, 2014, at 1:19 PM, Traci Duncan our4p...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I’m reading about VPNs this morning.  I’m familiar with Tunnel Bear  Cloak, 
 however the below service was ranked the best for 2014.
 
 Have any MacVisionary or viPhone users used Express VPN?  How did you find 
 ease of use/accessibility?  How was your connection speed?
 
 Do you recommend a different service?
 
 Thank you,
 Traci
 
 https://www.express-vpn.com/order 
 
 
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Re: using voiceover in terminal?

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Have you agreed to the Xcode license? To do this do the following:
From a terminal prompt type xcodebuild -license and press enter. The unix 
'more' command will display the Xcode license. Usin the space bar will scrole 
through this screen by screen. 
Press the q key to quit this and type agree at the next prompt that 
appears. You now have agreed to the license. See if you get a difference in 
your make output after you try this. I found this out after I was trying to get 
rails running here and things were not configuring as I expected. 

Doug
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 Hi!
 Yes.
 I certainly did.
 /A
 20 jul 2014 kl. 00:25 skrev Doug Lawlor doug.law...@gmail.com:
 
 Did you try a sudo make instead of just make?
 
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 Hi!
 If you have a braille display you could install brltty.
 Though i tried that but had no luck since i couldn't do any make commands.
 /A
 17 jul 2014 kl. 18:28 skrev Brandon A. Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com:
 
 I've used vim. It is not perfect either, but it is quite usable.
 On Jul 17, 2014, at 12:09 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I can't say, I've only ever issued commands. I have never used Nano, 
 Pico, Emacs, or any other command line programs, except FTP, which works 
 as expected. Even that, though, is command-based and is no kind of text 
 editor or other interactive program.
 On Jul 17, 2014, at 10:57 AM, Justin Mann w9...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Alex,
 
 So do the same things apply to using things like nano in terminal?
 On Jul 17, 2014, at 9:47 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 First, be sure to interact with the text input area. Then, use vo-up 
 and vo-down to review output, and regular up and down to navigate 
 commands. It isn't perfect, but interacting makes it a lot better.
 On Jul 17, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Doug Lawlor doug.law...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I would like to know the the same thing as well. I find when you are 
 using the terminal output from commands sometimes does not get spoken. 
 
 Doug
 
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 HI all,
 
 Are there any particular settings that you should use with voiceover 
 so that working in terminal is more practical?  I need to work with 
 the command line, change some settings in some text files in my 
 raspberry Pi, so any help you can give would be appreciated,
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Re: using voiceover in terminal?

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Did you try a sudo make instead of just make?

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 Hi!
 If you have a braille display you could install brltty.
 Though i tried that but had no luck since i couldn't do any make commands.
 /A
 17 jul 2014 kl. 18:28 skrev Brandon A. Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com:
 
 I’ve used vim. It is not perfect either, but it is quite usable.
 On Jul 17, 2014, at 12:09 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I can't say, I've only ever issued commands. I have never used Nano, Pico, 
 Emacs, or any other command line programs, except FTP, which works as 
 expected. Even that, though, is command-based and is no kind of text editor 
 or other interactive program.
 On Jul 17, 2014, at 10:57 AM, Justin Mann w9...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Alex,
 
 So do the same things apply to using things like nano in terminal?
 On Jul 17, 2014, at 9:47 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 First, be sure to interact with the text input area. Then, use vo-up and 
 vo-down to review output, and regular up and down to navigate commands. 
 It isn't perfect, but interacting makes it a lot better.
 On Jul 17, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Doug Lawlor doug.law...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I would like to know the the same thing as well. I find when you are 
 using the terminal output from commands sometimes does not get spoken. 
 
 Doug
 
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 HI all,
 
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Re: using voiceover in terminal?

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I would like to know the the same thing as well. I find when you are using the 
terminal output from commands sometimes does not get spoken. 

Doug

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Re: Square payment system

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With this system, does the purchaser enter the card information or does the 
seller do it?? I think I will contact Square to find out more information about 
it. 
Thanks all, 
Doug 

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 Hi Doug,
 You can also use the Square payment system by entering credit card numbers 
 manually, but the transaction fees are a little higher. I think it may be the 
 only option as you naturally need headphones in the headphone jack when 
 entering sensitive information like that. Good question.
 
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 I'm just wondering if anybody has used the square payment system? As I 
 understand it the credit card reader plugs into the headphone jack of the 
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Square payment system

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Hello everybody:
I'm just wondering if anybody has used the square payment system? As I 
understand it the credit card reader plugs into the headphone jack of the 
device. How can one access what's going on on the screen then?

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Can anyone tell me why I can't access a URL on this page?

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Hello list:
I am trying to figure out why I can't access a URL contained in the text View 
full job posting on the following page. When I am using VoiceOver I get the 
text some like: View full job posting dimmed When I do a Vo+space on this 
text I get an indication that I'm in a group. When I interact with this group I 
get another View full job posting inside this group. I tried routing the 
mouse with Vo+command+f5 and clicking it with Vo+Shift+Space. Still no joy. 

Anyway, here is the URL. I'm running the latest updates to Mavericks. 
http://www.jobbank.gc.ca/jobposting.do?page=3searchstring=kingstond=50action=proxd=50sort=Did=13480437source=searchresults

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Re: good o c r for mac

[Doug Lawlor]

F hi Ann,
Thanks very much for this information. I may look into getting this after all. 
Now like another poster has posted on this list I need a program that can allow 
me to bookmark files as well.
Thanks,


Doug

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 On May 7, 2014, at 1:49 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Doug,
 
 Here is the list of formats for FineReader Pro.
 
 PDF, ePub, Word, FB2, Excel, Image, PowerPoint Presentation, HTML, ODT, CSV, 
 TXT, and RTF.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 7 May 2014, at 01:16, Doug Lawlor doug.law...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 D what formats does fine reader scanned into?
 Thanks,
 Doug
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 4, 2014, at 12:49 PM, Scott Berry sb356...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I suggest Abby Fine Reader.  If your a student you can get aa discount too. 
  It normally costs $99.95 but if you get the 30% discount you get it for 
 $65.95.  I love it.  I just bought it a couple days ago and it's already 
 made my life easier.
 
 
 On May 3, 2014, at 8:00 PM, joseph joseph.bi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 hi list
 
 can anyone recommend voiceover friendly o c r to use with my hp scanner on 
 my iMac?
 
 thank you in advance
 
 
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Re: UEB on the I phone.

[Doug Lawlor]

Speaking of you EB, does anybody know where I can find a description of all of 
the UEB character set?
Thanks in advance,
Doug

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 On May 6, 2014, at 11:27 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 UEB is the default table as I set it up myself when I connected my Focus 40 
 Blue.
 
 On 6 May 2014, at 03:46 pm, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi, Kawal,
 
 this may seem like an obvious point, but you may have your Braille table set 
 not to use uEB. Go into settings, accessibility, VO, Braille and review your 
 settings. Make sure your Braille table is set to UeB. 
 
 HtH,
 Teresa
 
 Slow down; you’ll get there faster.
 
 On May 6, 2014, at 1:59 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 
 
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com
 Date: 6 May 2014 09:58:16 am BST
 To: applebrai...@googlegroups.com applebrai...@googlegroups.com
 Subject: UEB on the I phone.
 Reply-To: applebrai...@googlegroups.com
 
 Morning.
 
 I am trying to write UEB using my Braille display with the I phone. I have 
 been trained to write Ueb as I am a transcriber but for instance, when I 
 try and write a round bracket, which is dot 4 GH sign it will not work. 
 This is with contractions on. if I turn contractions off, then I have to 
 type the of sign and the with sign to make it work. So does anyone know 
 why dot 4 GH or dot 4 AR will not work?
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: good o c r for mac

[Doug Lawlor]

D what formats does fine reader scanned into?
Thanks,
Doug

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 I suggest Abby Fine Reader.  If your a student you can get aa discount too.  
 It normally costs $99.95 but if you get the 30% discount you get it for 
 $65.95.  I love it.  I just bought it a couple days ago and it's already made 
 my life easier.
 
 
 On May 3, 2014, at 8:00 PM, joseph joseph.bi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 hi list
 
 can anyone recommend voiceover friendly o c r to use with my hp scanner on 
 my iMac?
 
 thank you in advance
 
 
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Re: keyboard question

[Doug Lawlor]

Hi Cait, 
This all sounds very strange. I have a late 2009 white Macbook and when I plug 
inan external keyboard I get the setup assistant here. Your keyboard may be the 
problem. Have you tried a different keyboard on your iMac ? What happens then? 

Doug


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 wrote:
 
 Hi Doug,
 My i mac is a 2010 imac, i7, 16 g of ram, if that makes any difference.  I'm 
 running mavericks, 10.9.2 or whatever the latest incarnation is at the moment.
 
 I have tried everything I can think of to get this blasted keyboard to work!
 
 I read an an article yesterday teling how to go into the user library and get 
 rid of a particular plist file, which I did, but that only helped somewhat.  
 The file was com.apple.hitoolbox.  After I got rid of that and rebooted, some 
 keys were recognized, but not as what they were supposed to do.  For example, 
 command tab would move right, like the right arrow.
 
 Just as an aside, I did plug the keyboard into my new mac air that I just got 
 for Christmas and got the keyboard assistant.  AFter it claimed that the 
 keyboard was recognized and said I could use the keyboard, again, the 
 keyboard wasn't working as expected.  vo right arrow was acting like enter, 
 for example.
 
 Perhaps this microsoft keyboard is just wanky or something!
 I sure wish it would work, because it's comfy to type on..  But it's not 
 worth the hassle  unless I can figure out something relatively soon..
 Thanks for any help!
 Cait
 
 On May 3, 2014, at 3:52 PM, Doug Lawlor doug.law...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What version of Mac OS are you running? How old is your iMac? 
 
 Doug
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 2, 2014, at 2:48 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 At  an office supply store near me.  It's called Beatty's Basics.
 Any ideas as to my question?
 Cait
 
 On May 2, 2014, at 2:14 PM, Isaac Hebert isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Wheir did you get the keyboard from?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 2, 2014, at 12:31 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie 
 caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I just bought an ergonomic keyboard that's supposed to work with my i 
 mac.  the tech guy tried it out on his mac at the store and it worked.
 
 when I got it home and plugged it into my machine, my machine acted like 
 nothing was plugged into it at all.
 
 I restareted my mac and stil l nothing.
 
 I tried all the usb ports and still nothing.
 
 We tried plugging the keyboard into my husband's mac and got the keyboard 
 assistant, asking us to help identify the new keyboard.
 
 My mac has no problems with my mac keyboard.
 
 All my other usb devices work fine in all the ports and so does my mac 
 keyboard.
 
 what could be causing this, and more importantly, what can I do to fix 
 this?
 
 would a clean install fix this?
 
 thanks,
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Re: keyboard question

[Doug Lawlor]

What version of Mac OS are you running? How old is your iMac? 

Doug

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 wrote:
 
 At  an office supply store near me.  It's called Beatty's Basics.
 Any ideas as to my question?
 Cait
 
 On May 2, 2014, at 2:14 PM, Isaac Hebert isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Wheir did you get the keyboard from?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 2, 2014, at 12:31 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I just bought an ergonomic keyboard that's supposed to work with my i mac.  
 the tech guy tried it out on his mac at the store and it worked.
 
 when I got it home and plugged it into my machine, my machine acted like 
 nothing was plugged into it at all.
 
 I restareted my mac and stil l nothing.
 
 I tried all the usb ports and still nothing.
 
 We tried plugging the keyboard into my husband's mac and got the keyboard 
 assistant, asking us to help identify the new keyboard.
 
 My mac has no problems with my mac keyboard.
 
 All my other usb devices work fine in all the ports and so does my mac 
 keyboard.
 
 what could be causing this, and more importantly, what can I do to fix this?
 
 would a clean install fix this?
 
 thanks,
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Re: Scanners revisited

[Doug Lawlor]

Hello everyone,
What I don't like about Docuscan plus is that it requires the image to be sent 
to Serotek's servers for processing. If scans could be processed locally this 
would be a good solution.

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 On Apr 28, 2014, at 1:11 PM, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote:
 
 It's not that bad actualy.  A finger pressed on the edge of the page to keep 
 the paper flat does the trick.
 
 Best,
 
 Erik Burggraaf
 Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
 
 On 2014-04-28, at 12:55 PM, Georgina Joyce g...@gena-j.me.uk wrote:
 
 Hello All,
 
 I wondered how people were using a camera like the Hovercam when wanting to 
 read anything other than a flat piece of paper? How do people resolve the 
 issue of pages of a book not lying flat? Surely, even letters that have 
 folds in them can be problematic?
 
 Your thoughts and experiences would be appreciated as I have purchased a T5 
 and just haven't had the time to experiment.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Gena
 On 26 Apr 2014, at 16:23, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote:
 
 Hi,  Eyepal is a good solution.  Not a great solution, but a good one.  I 
 haven't tested fine reader pro, but if it works with the hovercam T5V then 
 that would be even better.  Docuscan plus and t5v is also a good 
 combination.
 
 Hope this helps,
 
 
 Erik Burggraaf
 Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
 
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 Okay, wondering if there has been any improvements with scanners and oct 
 for the mac. The last time I checked was 3 or 4 years ago. Eye-pal looked 
 promising, but I need a solution soon as I don't own a windows machine and 
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Re: statusbar in 10.9.2 mavericks

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Hello all:
I'm getting the same problem here as well. I've got two third party items in my 
status bar. The first is the dropbox icon and the second is the icon for 
1Password Mini. If I Vo+Space on Dropbox I get the window opening sound and 
hear the word app which  is then cut off. The window closes too fast for the 
screen reader to render the message. If I press Vo+Space on the 1Password Mini 
icon I get the 1Password dialog where I can enter my master password. So it 
seems like the problem is with the DropBox application and not with the OS. 

Doug

On Apr 9, 2014, at 5:28 PM, William Windels william.wind...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Chris and others,
 
 Idd, it has worked for me also since 10.8 but no, it seems not to work 
 anymore:
 I  use Dropbox v2.6.25 and I do  the following:
 vo+m+m : to goeie to the statusbar;
 vo+arrow to goeie  to the dropbox-icon;
 There I press vo+space or dubbel tab on the trackpad or vo+enter;
 (the cursors are following each other).
 
 I receive the message from voiceover when I tab on the (dropbox) icon:
 the keyboard-focus can't be placed on the window; (it's translated from 
 dutch so it's something like that).
 
 Someone else knows this problem?
 
 Thx for any responses,
 
 William Windels
 
 
 Op 9-apr.-2014, om 22:09 heeft Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com het 
 volgende geschreven:
 
 Third party icons are accessible from 10.8 so why you can't activate them is 
 a mystery to me.
 
 Regards Chris
 
 Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!
 
 On 09/04/2014 20:53, William Windels wrote:
 Hello everyone,
 
 Since some time, I believe since mavericks or perhaps also in 10.8, the 
 icons like dropbox , Skype, and other tirdparty apps can't be activated 
 with vo+space. But, the icons that are part of the system: time-machine, 
 dat/time, user-options... are perfectly accessible with vo+space.
 What could be wrong and perhaps: what could be the solution or workaround?
 
 Any hints are very welcome
 
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Re: statusbar in 10.9.2 mavericks

[Doug Lawlor]

If I issue the following commands this is what happens. 
Press Vo+m+m to focus on the status menu. 
Vo+arrow to the DropBox icon. 
Press Vo+Command+f5 to move the mouse pointer to the VoiceOver cursor. 
Double tap the track pad.
VoiceOver gives me the following message:

Dropbox 2.4.11
Up to date menu extra Unable to focus keyboard in window: (null)

Doug

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 For a while, it was necessary to option click on the dropbox icon to get 
 access to the preferences from the context menu. other app icons also require 
 some creative clicking to access them. I don't know the why or wherefore of 
 all this, I just know to try various clicks on the icons that aren't 
 cooperating like control click, option click and so forth.
 
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 Hello everyone,
 
 Since some time, I believe since mavericks or perhaps also in 10.8, the 
 icons like dropbox , Skype, and other tirdparty apps can't be activated with 
 vo+space. But, the icons that are part of the system: time-machine, 
 dat/time, user-options... are perfectly accessible with vo+space.
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Re: Accessible Packet Sniffers?

[Doug Lawlor]

Hi Alex,
I don't know of a Mac specific utility, but I used to use a console utility 
called mmap quite a few years ago when I was doing a lot of experimenting 
with Linux. I don't have the links handy but do a search for a package called 
home-brew. It is a packaging system for Mac OS that will allow you to install a 
huge list of unix utilities that Apple does not provide. Nmap may be among the 
list of packages available through Homebrew. You can find Homebrew through 
Github. 

Doug

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 Hi all,
 I'm trying to determine why my Windows VM drops its internet every so often, 
 plus I'm just a geek. Does anyone know of an accessible packet sniffer app 
 for the Mac, preferably one that does *not* require the terminal? I wouldn't 
 mind one that can also provide details (connected devices, rates, all that) 
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Stopping Mail from speaking subject and preview window of every message being download

[Doug Lawlor]

Hello List, 
This is really driving me nuts! I need to stop mail speaking every message 
being downloaded. Can this be done? I took a look through the view menu but 
can't find anything that would be related to this. Would something have to be 
changed in the notifications window? 

Thanks, 

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Re: problems type2phone on mavericks with iphone 4 with ios7

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Sent from my iPhone

 On Nov 14, 2013, at 10:41 PM, Helena Fehr helena.torch.li...@gmail.comI can 
 get type to phone working but I can't get control keys to pass to the phony 
 for some reason. Running 10.9 and latest type to phone. 
 
 Dougwrote:
 
 Wow! You too? The thing is I can't even get my Type2phone thing to work at 
 all. I can do as much as go home and lock my phone with it, and that's it, 
 and I had this problem with the old OS already too for awhile; it worked 
 great at first, but then it wouldn't work, and now mavericks for sure doesn't 
 work with mine at least, except to lock or unlock the phone (press the 
 powerButton), or the home button. Nothing else works, no typing, no moving 
 around, nothing. What's up with that? I know I had the latest update too, so 
 that's not the problem, at least not if it was doing this on Mountain Lion 
 already.
 
 God Bless!!!
Helena
 
 May The Lord Bless you and keep you; May his face radiate with joy because of 
 you' May He be gracious to you, show you His favour, and give you His peace.
 (Numbers 6;24)
 
 In Jesus' Name.
 Amen
 
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Re: viewing full message details?

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I wish there was a way of doing Thisb in iOS as well but I can't find a way of 
doing this. Anybody know if this is possible in iOS? 

Doug

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 14, 2013, at 1:29 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 That works, thanks. I also re-discovered cmd-shift-h, which shows full 
 information if you interact with the message headers group of an open email.
 On Oct 14, 2013, at 2:32 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Here's how.
 
 1.  Open the message.
 
 2.  Press open the view menu.
 
 3.  Now, from here, go to the message submenu.
 
 Want an even faster way?  Then just press Option+comand+U.
 
 
 Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
 
 On Oct 13, 2013, at 11:36 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 In a program like Outlook, I can view a message's properties, then details, 
 to see things like the full route it took, the return path, and so on. I 
 cannot find a way to do this in Mail, though. I know I've done it before, I 
 just can't find the option in the menus. Thanks.
 
 
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Re: itunes radio and skipping songs

[Doug Lawlor]

Does itunes radio only work in certain countries? I'm in Ghana, have installed 
ios 7 on my iPhone, but still don't see the radio tab in the music app. 
Doug

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 On Sep 19, 2013, at 11:54 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have not upgraded to ios 7, but I did get the new iTunes on my Mac and have 
 been experimenting with the new radio feature. I thought I read that, if you 
 subscribe to iTunes match, you not only don't get ads, but you also get an 
 unlimited number of skips. This later point appears not to be true. Any 
 conformations or contradictions to this experience?
 
 Also,m I accidentally told iTunes never to play a particular song that I 
 actually wanted to say play more like this. I don't suppose there is a way 
 to undo such mistakes? 
 
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Re: upgrading to mountain lion was Loving Mountain Lion

[Doug Lawlor]

Hi Christine, 
Yu should be able to upgrade your macbook just fine. Mine is just the white 
macbook from February, 2010 with 4 GB ram and I upgraded it fine today. 

Doug

On 2012-07-25, at 3:31 PM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm having trouble determining if I can upgrade my MacBook. On the tech specs 
 page, it seems to indicate that only the aluminum MacBooks can be upgraded 
 (along with Mbp, Mb Air, Mb Mini, and iMac). I bought my MacBook in February, 
 2011. I've got a 2.4 ghz Intel Core 2 Dup processor. Am I okay?
 Christine 
 On Jul 25, 2012, at 1:57 PM, Daniel Miller wrote:
 
 It's $19.99
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan
 Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 12:55 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: upgrading to mountain lion was Loving Mountain Lion
 
 Is it free to upgrade or will a person have to pay?
 
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 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Loving Mountain Lion
 
 Good information, thanks! I plan to upgrade in the next few days, maybe
 today, and I'll keep this all in mind.
 
 On 7/25/12, Timothy Hornik timothy.hor...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello everyone,
 
 I am enjoying some of the new features within Mountain Lion. So far I 
 played with the Notifcation Center, Message, and Dictation. I will 
 cover some of the basics with these and installing Mountain Lion.
 First off, I am not an uber mac user, just a standard user with little 
 to no experience with understanding anything outside fundamentals of 
 Coive
 Over.
 
 Installing Mountain is easy. As stated in a previous email, no 
 worries. Just make sure you back-up your system. The only thing I did 
 to prepare for the install was update my billing information. I did 
 not update any software, run the checker, or anything else as my 
 system is
 a Mac Mini from last year.
 The entire install took an hour from hitting the comfirm to buy button 
 to logging in.
 
 Notification Center Set up:
 First thing to do is head to System Preferences, Keyboard, and then to 
 the shortcuts tab. You will need to create a shortcut for the 
 Notification Center, which is located in the Mission Control option. I 
 am using Command Option Shift N for mine.
 
 Once done with the shortcut, head back to system preferences and go to 
 the Notification Center. You have a table with the various apps that 
 use the Notification center. Select each one you wish to receive 
 either an alert, banner, or none alert. These pop up just like they do 
 on the iPhone and iPad.
 
 Now use your shortcut to enable and play with the Notification Center. 
 To move away from the center, either Command Tab or find the close button.
 
 Messaging
 I am really liking this feature. It using iMessage, so you can only 
 sent a message to an email or another iMessage user. For this one, you 
 need to dig it out from your Application folder, so hit Command Shift 
 A or go through finder to find it. Once you find it, open it and 
 insert your iCloud information. You will also want to go into the 
 dock, and find the Message App. Hit VO Shift M and go down to Option 
 and then keep in Dock. I say this, cause you will want this in your 
 dock, unless you create a keyboard shortcut for it.
 
 The layout is as simple as Messaging is on the iPhone. Best part is, 
 iMessages created on the Mac will appear on your iPHone and iPad with 
 the same iCloud user ID. This allows you to carry on conversations 
 from your Mac and then pick it up while traveling.
 
 Dictation
 Yeah, this works awesome, even with my mumbling Chicago-ish accent. Go 
 back to System Preferences once last time and navigate to Dictation 
 and
 Speech.
 Enable it and select your microphone. You will also need to select an 
 activation method. The standard drop menu gives you Double Tapping of 
 either the Function key, Command, RIght Command, or some other 
 combination. When you are in a text field, double tap the key you 
 selected
 and start talking.
 When you are done, double tap it again.
 Thank you for your assistance,
 Timothy Hornik
 timothy.hor...@gmail.com
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 M: 785.330.3503
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Re: Installing mountain lion

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When your system reboots for the first time you can turn on VoiceOver at this 
point to get your percentage of your install progress and the approximate time 
left. When my system rebooted for the second  time VoiceOver came up speaking. 

Doug

On 2012-07-25, at 2:53 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Ok, Les, how do you know when it's ok to turn VoiceOver on when you're 
 installing Mountain lion? I got my computer three days before Lion, and I did 
 my install of Lion at the Apple store. I mean, until you get VoiceOver going, 
 your computer has gone bye-bye for a while. 
 
 Eugenia Firth
 gigifi...@sbcglobal.net
 
 
 
 On Jul 25, 2012, at 10:35 AM, Les Kriegler wrote:
 
 Your question is a good one.  Let me assure you that you can do this.  
 First, you should do a complete backup of all of your data.  Also, make 
 certain your programs are all up-to-date.  You can check in the App Store by 
 searching for the word Updates to see if there are any updates available.  
 It's also a good idea to run Software Update to make certain you have the 
 most current updates for Lion.  Now, once you've done this, just purchase 
 Mountain Lion.  It will download and your system will re-boot.  You may have 
 to turn on VO when your system restarts, but you will then have speech 
 through the remainder of the installation process.  It took me about an hour 
 to do the install, just finished, and all went well.
 
 Les
 On Jul 25, 2012, at 11:26 AM, Kirsten Edmondson 
 kirsten.edmond...@btinternet.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I plan to install ML on Friday or Saturday, when I come back from being 
 away. However, my Mac, which I got 10 months ago, came with Lion installed. 
 So I've never had to install anything big like this on a Mac before
 
 I'm not very good at doing this sort of thing, so I wondered if there was a 
 pod cast or some tips which I could use when I install it so that I get it 
 right.
 
 Is there anything I need to do before I install?
 
 Where do I put it?
 
 Will it more or less do it for me? Or do I have to get it to do things.
 
 If anybody could direct me in the right place that would be great.
 
 Sounds totally inept and stupid I know… But…
 
 There's no rush, as I said, I won't be doing it till the weekend.
 
 Thanks. 
 Kirsten 
 
 
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Re: Getting live regions on a web page to automatically speak?

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Hi,
I have made a hot spot and set it to monitor the activity taking place. This 
seems to be working. Only question I have is how do I stop the monitoring if I 
want too? Do I have to remove the hot spot?

Thanks, 

Doug

On 2012-05-07, at 11:55 PM, Daniela Rubio wrote:

 Have you tried making a hotspot and monitoring it?
 
 SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T.
 MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE.
  EN TWITTER: @macneticos
  NUESTRO BLOG EN:
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 Y EL PODCAST EN:`
 http://macneticos.libsyn.com
 
 
 
 El 07/05/2012, a las 15:22, Doug Lawlor escribió:
 
 Hello list:
 I am working with a binary options broker who has live regions on their web 
 site that update with pricing information. I can find the region and get it 
 to speak by arrowing over it using quickNav. I'm sure VO/left and right 
 arrows will do the same thing. The problem I am having is when I'm focused 
 on this region VoiceOver does not speak it as it's being updated. I have 
 Live regions enabled in the Web tab of the VoiceOver utility. Anyone else 
 have any pointers on this?
 
 Thanks,
 
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Getting live regions on a web page to automatically speak?

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Hello list:
I am working with a binary options broker who has live regions on their web 
site that update with pricing information. I can find the region and get it to 
speak by arrowing over it using quickNav. I'm sure VO/left and right arrows 
will do the same thing. The problem I am having is when I'm focused on this 
region VoiceOver does not speak it as it's being updated. I have Live regions 
enabled in the Web tab of the VoiceOver utility. Anyone else have any pointers 
on this?

Thanks,

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RosettaStone Software: has anyone tried this?

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Hello list:
I'm just wondering if anyone has tried the RosettaStone language learning 
software. Looking at there FAQ pages I see that it can work on the Mac. I'm not 
sure about accessibility however. I suspect they use a cross platform 
development solution which is always not the most accessible when it comes to 
working with OS10. Again, has anyone taken a look at this? 

Thanks,

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Re: RosettaStone Software: has anyone tried this?

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To be quite honest that's what I figured. They talk about using images to 
convey certain aspects of the language learning. I didn't think the cross 
platform solution, if that is what they are using, wouldn't help either.  

Doug

On 2012-04-11, at 9:04 AM, Lewis Alexander wrote:

 this is just to state clearly that this product will not work for blind users 
 using voiceover. I have been in contact with the developers of the product 
 and they state that due to the method in which the product is designed 
 (graphical nature), voiceover would not work within the environment, 
 
 I was looking into this very product for my studies in Irish gaelic language 
 as well as German and after long discussions with the developers, it isn't 
 possible without a major redesign of the interface, plus the provision of 
 adapted materials at the expense of the supplier.
 
 sorry to break this to you but that's what it's going to be.
 
 lew
 
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 Hello list:
 I'm just wondering if anyone has tried the RosettaStone language learning 
 software. Looking at there FAQ pages I see that it can work on the Mac. I'm 
 not sure about accessibility however. I suspect they use a cross platform 
 development solution which is always not the most accessible when it comes 
 to working with OS10. Again, has anyone taken a look at this? 
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: Drobo dashboard, is it accessible?

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Hi Scott,
Thanks for following up on this. The strange thing is that the earlier versions 
of the software were quite accessible. It was when they reached version 2 the 
problems started. Looking forward to seeing what you can find out. 

Doug


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 Doug, I make no promises and I cannot even tell you what will come of this. 
 However, I have been working through a vendor who has connected me to a nice 
 young lady named Abby at Drobo and she is going to start researching things 
 on her end. I would love to have some resources on how Java-based apps can be 
 made accessible. I suspect the reason they went this route is to be 
 cross-platform compatible. THe more folks I know that want access to the 
 Drobo, the more likely I can make some headway because it is all about the 
 level of demand and the potential market for these products.
 
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 Hi Skott,
 As of this writing Drobo Dashboard is not accessible. When you launch the 
 program VoiceOver does not see the program's controls. It would be nice if 
 we could get in contact with the developer and get them to do something 
 about this problem. I havent been able to update a Drobo FS in months 
 because of this
 
 Doug
 
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 All,
 
 I was talking with someone today about nas devices and some issues I have 
 been having. He mentioned the Drobo which I know is pretty expensive and he 
 was explaining that you access the Drobo via a dashboard app that also 
 requires you to install java. I asked if he had ever thought to see if it 
 were compatible with VoiceOver, but he did not. So, I was curious if anyone 
 on the list has used a Drobo and can comment on the accessibility of the 
 Dashboard.
 I'll post my other issue in a separate post regarding my nas problem.
 
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Re: Drobo dashboard, is it accessible?

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Hi Skott,
As of this writing Drobo Dashboard is not accessible. When you launch the 
program VoiceOver does not see the program's controls. It would be nice if we 
could get in contact with the developer and get them to do something about this 
problem. I havent been able to update a Drobo FS in months because of this

Doug

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 All,
 
 I was talking with someone today about nas devices and some issues I have 
 been having. He mentioned the Drobo which I know is pretty expensive and he 
 was explaining that you access the Drobo via a dashboard app that also 
 requires you to install java. I asked if he had ever thought to see if it 
 were compatible with VoiceOver, but he did not. So, I was curious if anyone 
 on the list has used a Drobo and can comment on the accessibility of the 
 Dashboard.
 I'll post my other issue in a separate post regarding my nas problem.
 
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Question about Radium

[Doug Lawlor]

Hello list:
I just recently purchased Radium from the mac app store. This is an app that 
has access to a number of radio stations and gives you full keyboard control 
over the app from any other application. I really like this app accept for one 
thing. 
I can't see a full list of my favourite stations. I can only see some but not 
the rest of them. I tried turning Trackpad Commander on and doing a 3 finger 
swipe up to scroll page by page through the list but no luck so far. Does 
anyone else have this app and have they figured out a way to see all of the 
stations in their favourites list?  

Thanks in advance, 

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Printing an invoice from the Apple store?

[Doug Lawlor]

Hello List:
How do I go about printing an invoice from the Apple store? I log into my 
account and successfully see my orders. I click on the Print Invoice link for 
an order but nothing happens. I get no dialogs or anything. Actually what I 
want to do is to generate a PDF of the invoice from the Printer dialog. I have 
no printer attached to this machine.  I know how to generate the PDF but just 
can't get a dialog coming up when I activate the Print Invoice link. 

Thanks in advance, 

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Re: sim card on iphone 3gs?

[Doug Lawlor]

The sim card hole is next to the head phone jack  a push pin will work if you 
get it positioned just right. 

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 Hello where exactly is the hole to put a paper clip, to get the sim tray to 
 pop out on the 3gs?
 is it buy the power switch on the top of the phone?
 also would a push pin work, or does it have to be a paper clip or apple 
 removal tool?
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Re: Right clicking links on a web page?

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When I press VO-shift-m I get the context menu for the page, not  the current 
link I am focused on. 
Doug

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 Hi,
 
 Bringing up the context menu isn't even necessary.  Just press option enter 
 when on the link.  But if you do want the context menu anyway, press VO shift 
 M.
 
 hth
 
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 On Jan 28, 2012, at 7:14 PM, Doug Lawlor wrote:
 
 Hello list:
 I am trying to do the equivalent of right clicking the mouse on a link so I 
 can save the pdf files that these links point to. My problem is I can't seem 
 to get the menu with the save as option in it. I get a menu for the current 
 page I am viewing. How does one save a file from a web page? The page in 
 question is: 
 http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/visa.asp
 
 Thanks in advance, 
 
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Re: OCR on the mac

[Doug Lawlor]

I would love to see a version of Kursweil 1000 for the Mac. I have a lot of 
stuff in Kursweil format that I'd like to access. 

Doug


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On 2012-01-28, at 6:18 AM, Lisa Salinger lisas...@ptd.net wrote:

 Hello,
 For what it's worth, you do have the option to save your scans to Serotek's
 server, but you can also save them to your computer.
 
 Lisa
 
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 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: OCR on the mac
 
 Yes; but I don't like the fact that everything you scan gets uploaded to
 seretek's server.
 
 On Jan 26, 2012, at 6:19 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
 
 Docuscan plus works very well.
 On Jan 26, 2012, at 10:37 AM, Angie Giltinan wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I want to find a good scanning solution for my mac.
 I will purchase a flat bed scanner, but not sure which one you all
 recommend, and what software you think would be best.
 I thought of using DocuScan  but the need to have an internet connection
 all the time is a bit off putting for me.
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Right clicking links on a web page?

[Doug Lawlor]

Hello list:
I am trying to do the equivalent of right clicking the mouse on a link so I can 
save the pdf files that these links point to. My problem is I can't seem to get 
the menu with the save as option in it. I get a menu for the current page I am 
viewing. How does one save a file from a web page? The page in question is: 
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/visa.asp

Thanks in advance, 

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Can't remove bluetooth devices

[Doug Lawlor]

Hello list:
I can't seem to remove a bluetooth device. The process sounds simple enough. 
Open bluetooth preferences, select the device you want to remove from the 
device table, navigate to the remove device button and press it. My problem is 
that this button is dimmed. I've also tried routing the mouse to the device and 
pressing the remove button but the button is still dimmed. How does one go 
about this?

Thanks,

Doug

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Re: How to share an Internet connection on the mac?

[Doug Lawlor]

I had this working yesterday. It all looks correct on my system but for some 
reason now it isn't working. Strange, 

Doug

On 2011-12-09, at 4:15 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

 I've used this before to do a quickie wireless setup where I used my Mac to 
 share out a single network connection via the airport in the machine. I just 
 navigate to Internet Sharing but have to pick the From and To before it will 
 let me turn it on. So in my case I chose Ethernet 1 from the Share your 
 connection from: popup. Next there is a table with destination rows. In 
 there you should find one row with AirPort in the Ports column. Each row has 
 a checkbox in the On column. So check the airport as on, stop interacting 
 with that table and go back to the Sharing Services table, interact with the 
 Internet Sharing row and you should be able to now check the checkbox in the 
 On column. It will then prompt you with the usual are you sure... dialog.
 
 CB
 
 On 12/9/11 5:37 AM, Doug Lawlor wrote:
 Hello list:
 I've never had to use this since I got my mac. In fact, I've never had to 
 share an Internet connection in the past 10 years or so from a computer.
 
 I know this should be quite simple. I go into Preferences, select sharing, 
 and navigate through the table of sharing items until I see Internet 
 sharing. I find this but the check box to turn it on is dimmed.
 What I want to do is share a 3g USB modem and use WiFi to connect my two 
 iPhones. Anyone know why the check box for Internet sharing would be dimmed? 
 Is something done in the software that is installed on your system for these 
 USB modems to disable Internet sharing?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
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Using Dragon Express with VoiceOver?

[Doug Lawlor]

Hello list:
I just purchased Dragon Express for the introductory price of $49.99 and can't 
figure out how to go about accessing the program. There is supposed to be an 
icon in the menu bar but it is the usual problem where VoiceOver can't access 
it. Any other way to access this program? I'm very interested in trying it out. 
 

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Re: itunes sort by artist

[Doug Lawlor]

I seem to remember a plugin for doing this some ware but can't remember where I 
saw it. I would love to know if this is still possible. 

Doug



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 Hi all,
 
 On an iphone, you can sort the itunes library by artist. On my mac, I only 
 see tons of songs, and if I want to delete an entire album, or all songs from 
 1 artist, I need to carefully select each of them, and then delete them from 
 the itunes library. Is there a better way on the mac, to view the itunes 
 library by artist, or by album, without seeing the artist and album names 16 
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Re: IOS: accessible VO cloent

[Doug Lawlor]

Check out Focus for Facebook in the app store. 

Doug


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 Hello guys.
 
 I am looking for an accessible Facebook client under IOS5. I Tried the 
 official FB App and Facely HD too, but  it was a very frustrating experience. 
 Facely HD refreshers very frequently the screen, causing VO to loose focus. 
 Write a note becomes a very challenging task and even reading posts is not a 
 piece of cake. The link/button/control to comment a post or to say that I 
 like it is missing: I mean, it is visible on the screen and it is displayed 
 as a plus sign (+), but for VO it is as if it was not there. 
 
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Re: iPAD As iPhone?

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You will need a SIP client and an account with a VoIP provider to get this 
functionality. A good client ihave been looking at is Counterpath's Bria client 
which looks very accessible. A VoIP provider is used to route your calls over 
the 3G data network. When you are connected to a wifi network your calls will 
be routed over that instead of the 3G network. VoIP providers can also provide 
you with incoming numbers for your country. 

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 No.
 
 I think the closest you'll get is if you were to jailbreak, use
 something like my3g and then always have a voip application like skype
 open.
 
 On 10/10/2011, Georges Zaynoun humorlessg...@samobile.net wrote:
 Hi.
 
 If I put a  sim card in my iPAD that has data and voice capabilities
 can I dial any contact and speak to like on a normal cellular?
 Can I also take incoming calls to the number in the iPAD?
 
 
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Re: Help with my iPhone for?

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Ok, if I understand correctly, you launch the iPod app, find a song you want to 
play, but the whole song doesn't play. Instead, a piece of the song you select 
plays then switches to another song that a piece of only gets played? I can't 
seem to replicate this here at the moment. 

Doug


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 Hello, Seer is my problem in a nutshell I hope, when playing music on my 
 iPhone, I am hearing pieces of other musical selections in the loo of actual 
 songs that are in my library, what could be caught in this? Is it better to 
 wipe my phone a wall music, and simply we sync the device? Or does this 
 warrant a full phone call to Apple? Note the answer to this question could 
 save me a lot of money, or it could tell me that it's time for me to break 
 down in by the AppleCare protection plan for my phone? In a completely 
 unrelated question but still regarding my phone, it is better to wait for IOS 
 5, to add my e-mail address at my own domain to my phone? Any help would be 
 greatly appreciated. Please note however that I am dictating this message by 
 using Dragon NaturallySpeaking 2.5 for the Mac, so portions of this message 
 may not make very much sense to you. But the rest just sure that it is either 
 the result of either the software, or the dictation process. If you would 
 like to respond to me off list, please fill free to send e-email to. 
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Re: Skype and other voip services on i-devices

[Doug Lawlor]

Hi William,
I think what is happening is that Skype and other VOIP programs are speaking 
through the ear piece instead of the iPhone's speaker. Try this:
1. Hold down on the home button until the phone vibrates. 
2. After the phone vibrates click the home button once. That may restore speech 
through the speaker. 
Try this and let me know how it goes. I've tried it here and it's working for 
me.

Doug

On 2011-10-01, at 8:02 AM, William Windels wrote:

 Hello All,
 With the last version of Skype and also another voip-program that's available 
 in Belgium, I discover that voiceover is speaking very silently when The 
 program comes in foreground , not when I start a call.
 (voip is the voice over ip protocol)
 
 Also, This silent-mode of voiceover remains active Until I close the 
 voip-program.
 
 Is this something that is caused because of the new Skype?
 
 So: how can I (automatically) turn on back the normal volume of the voiceover 
 speech.
 
 thanx for your answers,
 
 kind regards and a lovely day,
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Re: Google Chrome, ChromeVox, and Apps

[Doug Lawlor]

I can't get the chromevox extension installed here at all. I get a message 
saying that the package is unreadable. Has anyone else seen this?  

Doug


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On 2011-09-29, at 7:23 AM, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 I managed to get my chromevox installed and i tested it, and as is so common 
 amongst us i will now give my thoughts, mostly complaints about it.
 I think Chromevox has potential. The navigation, as long as it's basic is 
 quite nice. I put it through its paces on a swedish site to buy tickets  for 
 one of our railway companies, because it's quite a challenge with any screen 
 reader. Among the pros are that you can as they put it zoom in on things by 
 navigating by group, object, sentence, word etc. That is very cool. The first 
 little oddity i found had to do with combo box navigation:
 I found that when i tried to navigate a combo box, nothing was spoken. 
 Luckily i knew what was in the combo box, so when i typed something, like a 
 number everything worked well.
 Now i come to the cons of this screen reader, and to not make the same 
 mistakes as those who did the voiceover review some years back, i want to 
 point out that these are my initial impressions, that i could be very wrong 
 in my assumtions and that i really do want to be corrected if i am wrong 
 indeed.
 The most problematic area in Chromevox as of now is the table navigation 
 which in my, i repeat my opinion is clumcy especially if you like me have a 
 keyboard with ctrl only on the left hand side and no insert whatsoever. To 
 navigate through a table you have to press ctrl+alt+t and then another 
 letter. The navigation options are quite logical, but as you have to use both 
 hands when trying to find letters to press  and as the ctrl key is only to 
 the left and there's no way of putting Chromevox into what they referr to as 
 sticky mode, it gets awquard and time consuming.
 Another thing i hoped for but that doesn't seem to be there, is the 
 possibility to change voices. It seems only to use the default system voice. 
 Let's hope all this is addressed in an upcoming version, and as i said, if i 
 have misunderstood anything of this, please let me know. I don't want to 
 totally diss Chromevox yet, because i think it's got potential as i said, but 
 for now i have inactivated the addon.
 /Krister
 29 sep 2011 kl. 05:04 skrev Chris Blouch:
 
 Skype, IM, and other alerts/notifications will still work within 
 Chrome/ChromeVox, provided their enabled with whatever method.
 
 Interesting. So you're saying that with Chrome/ChromeVox enabled it becomes 
 the screen reader and I no longer need voiceover to hear notification from 
 other apps such as Skype, AIM, or Adium? I wonder how they do that? So when 
 you say they are enabled with some method, what does that mean? Ad you 
 saying that as long as they hook into the apple accessibility apis correctly 
 ChromeVox should pick up the events?
 
 CB
 
 On 9/27/11 9:20 PM, Kevin Chao wrote:
 Voiceover must be off within Chrome, completely off, more than just
 sounds/TTS being muted. With ChromeVox extension, it becomes the
 screen reader. ChromeVox keys are same as VoiceOver ones. CMD-F5 is a
 very effective and efficient way to toggle ON/OFF VoiceOver, it's only
 one command with no confirmation dialog box.
 
 In the case of wanting to flip to a different application, such as
 VOIP, IM, Mail, Finder, etc. Most of which are possible using Google
 apps or WebApps. CMD-F5 to turn on VoiceOver, do whatever you need
 outside of Chrome/ChromeVox, flip back in, turn off VoiceOver. Skype,
 IM, and other alerts/notifications will still work within
 Chrome/ChromeVox, provided their enabled with whatever method.
 
 Please in my original message, all the links, downloads, help,
 instructions, etc. were provided, but I'll place them right here:
 Google Chrome Canary (Mac/Windows platform powering ChromeVox/Apps):
 http://j.mp/oWZ7Of
 Installing ChromeVox as a packed extension
 http://j.mp/nmnNR5
 ChromeVox User Guide:
 http://t.co/b9ABBkv
 Use Google Docs with a screen reader
 http://goo.gl/cmeHV
 Google accessibility feedback:
 http://goo.gl/wePru
 
 
 Kevin
 
 On 9/27/11, Chris Blouchcblo...@aol.com  wrote:
 Odd. So you have to disable the screen reader to use it? What if I want
 to flip over to answer a Skype or IM while I'm wordprocessing? How will
 I even know that someone is calling? What if I want to navigate to the
 finder and copy a file? Howabout reading my email in mail app to copy
 paste some text into a Google Doc file? Requiring the screen reader to
 be turned off for their web app to work seems very problematic.
 
 CB
 
 On 9/27/11 8:36 AM, Kevin Chao wrote:
 Hi Krister,
 Pleas see response below inline.
 On 9/27/11, Krister Ekstromkris...@kristersplace.com   wrote:
 Hi,
 Chrome is as i recall and judging of how it looks on the web page
 opensource, which according to my experience means very messy web site
 and
 

Re: skype?

[Doug Lawlor]

You can also interact with what ever contact table, choose a contact, press 
VO+m to bring up the context menu and choose Call from their 

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On 2011-09-24, at 2:42 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter markbaxte...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 select the contact by interacting with whichever table (contact monitor, 
 history, contacts, etc.) is appropriate.  Then just hit enter.  You'll be 
 back in the main Skype window with all your options; you'll be in the text 
 box for sending a message by default.
 
 
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Re: skype?

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True enough. I've always used the context menu approach. 

Doug


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 VO Shift M will bring up a context menu, but VO M to the menu bar will also 
 accomplish this eventually, if you arrow over  to contacts and down to call.
 
 
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Re: Nervous syncing my iPad

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You should have no problem syncing the iPad. Voices will not change because the 
iPad uses the  actual VoiceOver screenreader, not recorded voice prompts like 
the previous generation of the iPod Nano. 

Doug



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On 2011-09-18, at 4:21 PM, Traci our4p...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,
  
 Ok, I am wimping out on syncing my iPad with the Mac for the first time.
  
 Some of you might know, I have been switching from windows to Mac for the 
 last few weeks.
  
 I've synced my Nano a few times with mixed results.  Last night, I noticed 
 there were a few non-speaking menus on the Nano.  After changing some 
 settings, I resynced it.  This took a long time, over a half hour.  When it 
 was done, Alex was the voice on the Nano.  Do you think I reformatted my 
 Nano, without realizing it?  *smile*
  
 This is where I'm getting chicken syncing my iPad.
  
 My original plan was connect the Pad and make sure to transfer any purchases, 
 then synce it.  Can you think of any further steps I should take?
  
 Thanks all,
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Re: Is there a manual eject button anywhere on the MBP?

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Hi Donna,
Try the following:
1. make sure the machine is powered off.
2. Hold down the eject button, that is the key to the right of the F12 key and 
press the power button while keeping the eject button held down. You should 
hear the cd start to spin and then the mac chime. After the chime the cd should 
eject. Just keep the eject button held until the cd pops out.  

Doug

On 2011-09-16, at 9:33 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

 thanks for the suggestion Keith.  right Now, though, I don't have an OS, so 
 can't go into the utilities area to open Terminal.
 Best,
 Donna
 
 On Sep 16, 2011, at 8:00 AM, Keith Watson wrote:
 
 Donna,
 
 I am not sure exactly what is wrong or why you cannot get out your
 dvd. If you can boot the system I would open terminal from the
 utilities area and run the following
 
 sudo eject /dev/cdrom
 
 and see if that doesn't help.
 
 
 Keith Watson
 813-760-1381
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 On Sep 16, 2011, at 7:55 AM, Donna Goodin goodi...@msu.edu wrote:
 
 Because I can neither install from my SL disk, nor get the Mac to reinstall 
 Lion.  I don't know what else to do, and I'm unable to eject the SL disk at 
 all.
 
 On Sep 16, 2011, at 7:52 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
 
 Hi Donna,
 
 Unfortunately, there's no way to physically eject the disc without having
 the machine turned on, since the only way you can do it is with the eject
 button. Also, why would you need Apple to reinstall the OS?
 
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 Hi all,
 
 OK, since I seem to be out of options here, I don't know what to do except
 take the MBP into the Apple Store and have them reinstall the OS.  But I
 don't want to travel with a DVD in the drive.  Is there a manual eject
 button anywhere on this thing?
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Re: Getting to the top or bottom of a list

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Hi Paul,
You must interact with the messages column then interact with the messages 
table. When you interact with the messages column you see two items, Sort by 
date and messages. Just interact with the messages table then vo+shift+home 
will take you to the top and vo+shift+end will take you to the bottom.  

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 How does one get to the top of a list of email messages? VO shift home puts 
 me on the sort item. 
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Re: blogging app?

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Have a look at an app called Marsedit which you can find at 
http://www.marsedit.com. In my opinion it is the best software of it's kind. 
I've posted a keyboard reference to my blog at 
http://www.douglawlor.com/marsedit-keyboard-reference. 

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 So, is there a blogging app that I can use that will allow me to publish 
 directly to my blog from my mac?  I use to use windows live wrier which is 
 part of the windows live essentials package, and looking for an alternative.  
 Thanks.
  
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Re: Booting from the Lion Partition

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Hi Mika,
As I understand it the command is new in Lion and is designed to make it easier 
for you to activate the recovery partition. I have never heard the command-r 
while powering on mentioned before the release of Lion.  

Doug

On 2011-07-27, at 2:12 PM, Mika Pyyhkala wrote:

 Thanks Doug, just curious, is this command-R key new or has it been
 around with SL?
 In other words would you use the same command-R to boot off a SL dvd
 on a mac that did not have Lion?
 Best,
 Mikab
 
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 Just hold down command-r while powering on and the recovery partition will
 come up.
 
 Doug
 
 On 2011-07-27, at 11:24 AM, Mika Pyyhkala wrote:
 
 Can anyone also please post the key sequence to boot up the machine
 and bring up the Lion partition?
 
 Thanks,
 Mika
 
 On 7/27/11, Dan Roy droy1...@gmail.com wrote:
 The problem is, when you boo from that partition, the window chooser
 isn't
 available.  VO does work, but, it's a subset of the normal features.
 
 
 On Jul 27, 2011, at 12:03 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
 
 Try pressing control option f2 to open the window chooser menu, that
 usually will allow you to select the window you need.
 On Jul 26, 2011, at 7:49 PM, Dan Roy wrote:
 
 I want to do a fresh install of Lion.  I did the upgrade, but, as I
 mentioned on the list before, I am having a few problems.  I am
 thinking
 a clean install might straighten it out.  My problems seem to be
 unusual
 enough where I feel like something might have gotten corrupted during
 the
 upgrade or maybe even before.
 
 anyway, I am able to boot to the Lion partition with no problems.
 However, when I get to the part of the install where you have to put in
 your apple ID, apparently, that window is opening in the background.
 Since we don't have access to all the voiceover features, I can't seem
 to
 focus on that window in order to put in my ID.  I was able to shut off
 vo, and by tapping the trackpad randomly, I was able to get it to the
 foreground once.  However, I can't do it again.
 
 I am wondering if anyone has discovered another, more reliable way of
 getting it done?
 
 I am assuming that burning a CD would result in the same problem.
 
 If anyone has an idea of how to get around this,I would appreciate
 knowing about it, thanks.
 
 
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Re: Looking for an accessible DVD ripper

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Hi Paul,
Check out dvd remaster. This program should do what you want and is very 
accessible. I'm not sure how much it is because when I bought the program it 
was on sale for 90% off the list price.

Doug

On 2011-07-29, at 1:42 PM, Paul Henrichsen wrote:

 Hi, guys. I am looking for an accessible DVD cloning program like Handbrake. 
 I want to convert DVD's to m4v files I can copy to my iPhone. 
 If handbrake is accessible, that's great; but is there a better one?
 I'd also like a program which will clone the DVD so I can have a backup and 
 put the original away for safe keeping.
 I have clone DVD and Clone DVD mobile along with Any DVD HD from slysoft for 
 windows, but they are totally inaccessible under windows.
 Is there something similar to the slysoft programs that is accessible on the 
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Re: Booting from the Lion Partition

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Just hold down command-r while powering on and the recovery partition will come 
up.

Doug

On 2011-07-27, at 11:24 AM, Mika Pyyhkala wrote:

 Can anyone also please post the key sequence to boot up the machine
 and bring up the Lion partition?
 
 Thanks,
 Mika
 
 On 7/27/11, Dan Roy droy1...@gmail.com wrote:
 The problem is, when you boo from that partition, the window chooser isn't
 available.  VO does work, but, it's a subset of the normal features.
 
 
 On Jul 27, 2011, at 12:03 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
 
 Try pressing control option f2 to open the window chooser menu, that
 usually will allow you to select the window you need.
 On Jul 26, 2011, at 7:49 PM, Dan Roy wrote:
 
 I want to do a fresh install of Lion.  I did the upgrade, but, as I
 mentioned on the list before, I am having a few problems.  I am thinking
 a clean install might straighten it out.  My problems seem to be unusual
 enough where I feel like something might have gotten corrupted during the
 upgrade or maybe even before.
 
 anyway, I am able to boot to the Lion partition with no problems.
 However, when I get to the part of the install where you have to put in
 your apple ID, apparently, that window is opening in the background.
 Since we don't have access to all the voiceover features, I can't seem to
 focus on that window in order to put in my ID.  I was able to shut off
 vo, and by tapping the trackpad randomly, I was able to get it to the
 foreground once.  However, I can't do it again.
 
 I am wondering if anyone has discovered another, more reliable way of
 getting it done?
 
 I am assuming that burning a CD would result in the same problem.
 
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Getting an app out of full screen mode in Lion?

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Hello list:
Has anyone found a way to get an app out of full screen mode? I was taking a 
look at Mail and pressed the button to make the app full screen. I just don't 
know how to get it out of this mode again.

Thanks, 

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Re: OS X Lion and VoiceOver issues

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I've tried to do three things here to perform a drag and drop in Launchpad.
1. Do what you do in IOS which is to hold a finger on an icon until the moving 
sound is heard then start dragging the app to the new location. This does not 
work.
No moving sound is heard when you try the IOS method.
2. Use the Command-comma and Comma-period method. VoiceOver thinks I am 
dragging the contents of the window under LaunchPad. In this case it was 
message content in Mail. I located the app I wanted to move and then pressed 
command-comma to mark it. Vo gives me Message content marked for drag and 
drop. I then use the VO-arrow keys  to move the VO cursor to the new location 
and pressed command-period to drop the app. The problem was that VoiceOver was 
trying to deal with the content in the application under the LaunchPad window. 
3. I moved to the app I wanted to drag using the VO navigation commands and 
locked the mouse down with the VO-command-shift-space command and moved it to 
the new location using the keyboard method. The dragging sound was heard while 
moving but the app did not get dropped in the new location when the mouse lock 
was released. 

Doug

On 2011-07-22, at 9:57 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

 Hi,
 Strange, i didn't have a problem dragging an app on top of another app in 
 Launchpad. I managed to create a folder, the problem came after that, when i 
 couldn't open the folder. I'll look into this again today, i'm sure there's a 
 way to do it.
 I don't experience any sluggishness with mail, but then i have an iMac with 
 Core7 processor and 8 Gb memory.
 Not saying you are wrong, just that i have experienced a different thing than 
 you.
 /Krister
 
 21 jul 2011 kl. 23:01 skrev Zachary Kline:
 
 Dear MacVisionaries,
 I've just sent the following letter to Apple Accessibility.  I hope it 
 provides a decent summation of some of the issues we've been experiencing 
 with the new OS, and that it will give them a better idea of what sorts of 
 things should be looked into when they upgrade the product.
 I'll be sure to forward any response I receive.
 Best,
 Zack.
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Zachary Kline kli...@onid.orst.edu
 Subject: OS X Lion and VoiceOver issues
 Date: July 21, 2011 1:58:13 PM PDT
 To: Apple Accessibility accessibil...@apple.com
 
 Dear Apple Accessibility,
 I have recently upgraded my mid 2010 macbook pro to Lion, and have for the 
 most part been quite pleased with its performance.  However, there are a 
 few troubling developments which degrade the overall quality of the 
 experience.
 THe Launchpad and Mission Control features seem mostly accessible, but 
 there are some omissions which render them less useful than they could be.  
 There seems no way to move applications into folders, or indeed at all, 
 using VoiceOver.  Drag and drop does not do the expected thing.  Mission 
 Control is somewhat better, but Spaces seem impractical because there is 
 neither any way to delete them nor to move between apps in a single space.
 Safari and Mail also present accessibility problems.  Safari's new 
 downloads popup is not ideal accessibility-wise, and while it works after a 
 fashion the old downloads window was preferable.  Similarly, Mail seems 
 sluggish, often reporting that it is busy, especially in the new layout.  
 Drag and drop is inconsistent here as well: the Favorites bar can be added 
 to with the new shortcuts, but Voiceover refuses to drag items which have a 
 press action, thus requiring the old mouse toggling shortcut to remove them.
 These are a representative sampling of the various issues I've encountered 
 in using Lion with VoiceOver.  I hope that at least some of these may be 
 fixed in the near future, as this would greatly improve the usability of 
 the system.
 Yours sincerely,
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Re: Anyone know how to deal with the popups that come up in edit boxes in Lion?

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Hi Brian,
I must say I'm glad they ported this feature from IOS to OS10. This is one 
feature in IOS I find a real time saver. 

Doug

On 2011-07-21, at 5:50 PM, Bryan Jones wrote:

 Hello Doug,
 
 When you hear that little popup sound, press VO+Shift+J to move the VO cursor 
 to that popup menu. You can then use VO left and right to navigate through 
 the choices and press the Return key when you've found your desired choice.
 
 HTH,
 Bryan
 
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 I'm just wondering how do we go about working with the autocorrection 
 features in Lion. I'm talking about the autocorrection sound like you hear 
 on the iPhone but they've now ported this to the Mac. The difference is that 
 when you get the autocorrection sound on the Mac you get how many 
 suggestions that are in the popup. I would love to know how to use these 
 popups. On the ipHone you get a suggested word spoken. On the mac this does 
 seem to happen. 
 
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Re: lion is now on the app store

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Hi Zack,
I have downloaded the installer and it ran automatically after the download 
finished. The problem is I'm not sure where the installer downloaded to either. 
I looked in the Applications folder but found nothing that would look like the 
Mac OS10 installer. I wanted to burn a DVD but looks like I'm going to have to 
download the installer again. My mac just restarted for the second time. It 
must be installed or close to it.

Doug


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 Hi,
 It downloads to the Applications folder, and will begin installing once it 
 finishes.  
 Best,
 Zack.
 On Jul 20, 2011, at 8:36 AM, Shen wrote:
 
 Anyone know where it is downloading to? Can't find it anywhere at the moment.
 
 On Jul 20, 2011, at 7:03 AM, David Hole wrote:
 
 Hi.
 Now I'm also downloading :) But where can I see how far the download has 
 gone?
 
 On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 16:00, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 If you go to your purchase section, it will be in that table under status.
 
 
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 How do you get a progress bar when it's downloading? I found the entry in
 the dock, and it simply says OS X Lion, downloading.
 
 Teresa
 On Jul 20, 2011, at 6:36 AM, Brandon Misch wrote:
 
 still am downloading it. 70 something percent now.
 
 On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:12 AM, David Hole wrote:
 
 Hi.
 Just tried to buy, but it's got unavailable :( Hopefully it's just
 the servers that can't handle the pressure...
 -David
 
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 Yep, sure is! A lot sooner than I would have thought.
 
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Re: lion is now on the app store

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I've got it up and running here as well. 
I like the fact that when interacting with a message table in Mail you get much 
more information when up and down arrowing. 

Doug

On 2011-07-20, at 1:37 PM, David Taylor wrote:

 Replying from Lion. All is well so far.
 
 Cheers
 Dave
 
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 Hi.
 Just tried to buy, but it's got unavailable :( Hopefully it's just the
 servers that can't handle the pressure...
 -David
 
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Re: lion is now on the app store

[Doug Lawlor]

The problem was I couldn't find the installer in the Applications folder. 

Doug

On 2011-07-20, at 1:45 PM, Zachary Kline wrote:

 Hi Doug,
 Sadly, the fact is that you need to copy the installer to another location if 
 you want to make a DVD.  Yes, your machine is quite close to being done.  
 Yours,
 Zack.
 On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:12 AM, Doug Lawlor wrote:
 
 Hi Zack,
 I have downloaded the installer and it ran automatically after the download 
 finished. The problem is I'm not sure where the installer downloaded to 
 either. I looked in the Applications folder but found nothing that would 
 look like the Mac OS10 installer. I wanted to burn a DVD but looks like I'm 
 going to have to download the installer again. My mac just restarted for the 
 second time. It must be installed or close to it.
 
 Doug
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 2011-07-20, at 1:31 PM, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote:
 
 Hi,
 It downloads to the Applications folder, and will begin installing once it 
 finishes.  
 Best,
 Zack.
 On Jul 20, 2011, at 8:36 AM, Shen wrote:
 
 Anyone know where it is downloading to? Can't find it anywhere at the 
 moment.
 
 On Jul 20, 2011, at 7:03 AM, David Hole wrote:
 
 Hi.
 Now I'm also downloading :) But where can I see how far the download has 
 gone?
 
 On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 16:00, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 If you go to your purchase section, it will be in that table under 
 status.
 
 
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 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran
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 Subject: Re: lion is now on the app store
 
 How do you get a progress bar when it's downloading? I found the entry in
 the dock, and it simply says OS X Lion, downloading.
 
 Teresa
 On Jul 20, 2011, at 6:36 AM, Brandon Misch wrote:
 
 still am downloading it. 70 something percent now.
 
 On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:12 AM, David Hole wrote:
 
 Hi.
 Just tried to buy, but it's got unavailable :( Hopefully it's just
 the servers that can't handle the pressure...
 -David
 
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Flash to HTML5; Can it be done?

[Doug Lawlor]

Hello list:
I am looking for either a Safari Extension or plugin that will allow me to 
convert any flash video to HTML5. I've seem extensions that will let me do this 
with Youtube videos but not videos from other sites. I'm taking a course that 
has lots of flash videos and am wondering if there is something available that 
can do this. 

Thanks in advance, 

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Re: Flash to HTML5; Can it be done?

[Doug Lawlor]

Hi Justin: 
I've got Click2Flash installed but it just doesn't do it for this site. If I 
get myself on a video using VO I just hear the keyword Flash which gives me no 
option to click on it to get any results. The worst thing about these videos is 
that they do not play when the page for the video is loaded. This is even 
without Click2Flash installed. 

Doug

On 2011-07-14, at 9:22 PM, Justin Ekis wrote:

 Hi Doug,
 
 ClickToFlash is an extension that handles several other sites besides 
 youtube. I'm not sure if it will play the videos on the site you need, but 
 there's always a chance. ClickToPlugin is by the same author, and includes 
 all of the features from ClickToFlash and adds the ability to convert 
 silverlight and windows media content as well. Here is the web site for the 
 both extensions.
 
 http://hoyois.github.com/safariextensions/clicktoplugin/
 
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 Hello list:
 I am looking for either a Safari Extension or plugin that will allow me to 
 convert any flash video to HTML5. I've seem extensions that will let me do 
 this with Youtube videos but not videos from other sites. I'm taking a course 
 that has lots of flash videos and am wondering if there is something 
 available that can do this. 
 
 Thanks in advance, 
 
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Re: Safari Keyboard Reference Posted

[Doug Lawlor]

Hi Esther,
I have updated the keyboard reference with your suggestions. They are most 
helpful. Please take a look and let me know if I can do anything else with it.  

Thank you very much,  

Doug

On 2011-07-12, at 4:43 PM, Esther wrote:

 Hi Doug,
 
 One suggested addition for your Safari Keyboard Reference, unless you want to 
 limit yourself to only cover commands listed under the Safari menu bar: Add 
 the fact that pressing Command-1, Command-2 etc. will activate the first 9 
 bookmarks in the Bookmarks Menu Bar, whether the Bookmarks Menu Bar is shown 
 or hidden.
 
 You might want to amend the descriptions for viewing and bookmark options to 
 show/hide or hide/show for the commands that are toggle actions, e.g.:
 
 Viewing:
 To hide/show the tool bar press “Command-|”
 To hide/show the Bookmarks Bar press “Command-Shift-b”.
 To hide/show the Tab Bar press “Command-shift-t”.
 To hide/show the Status Bar press “Command-/”.
 
 Bookmarks:
 To Show/Hide All Bookmarks press “Command-Option-b”.
 
 You've written this up for the default Safari browser settings, which is 
 fine, but many VoiceOver users choose to hide their bookmarks menu, etc. (so 
 those items don't show up in item chooser menu), so it's convenient to know 
 which shortcuts are toggles. 
 
 Also, FYI when on the Show All Bookmarks page of Safari (Command-Option-b), 
 the Command-f acts as filter to only show matches to bookmarks that contain 
 the search string.  
 
 If you're curious, you can point your browser to:
 file:///Applications/Safari.app/Contents/Resources/Shortcuts.html
 
 (You may have to copy this, then navigate to your address bar with Command-l, 
 paste with command-v, and then press return to activate the link.)
 
 This is a pointer to the Shortcuts resource page within your Safari 
 Application Contents on your machine.  Some of these are alternative 
 shortcuts, like delete and shift-delete to go backwards and forwards.  
 Also, one of the very commonly used Safari shortcuts for VoiceOver users is 
 Option-return (or Option-enter if you're used to Windows naming return 
 as the enter key).  This is one of the shortcuts listed under Other 
 browser window shortcuts as Option-click a link to download a file.  
 VoiceOver automatically selects/highlights links that it moves to, which is 
 what the click action by sighted users does, so you only have to press 
 return after pressing option to complete the action.  You'll find this is 
 true for the other shortcuts that specify clicking on the link, too, so 
 Command-return on a link will open the link in a new window or tab.
 
 This shortcuts list was technically for Safari 4, so I'd check out any 
 shortcuts before including, if you're interested in this.
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 
 On Jul 12, 2011, at 07:21, Doug Lawlor wrote:
 
 I'll try to get a Mail reference posted tomorrow. 
 Doug
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 2011-07-12, at 2:00 PM, Missy Hoppe melis...@fuse.net wrote:
 
 Thanks for posting this. I'm sure it will come in handy!
 
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Doug Lawlor
 Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 12:28 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Safari Keyboard Reference Posted
 
 hello all:
 I just wanted to let you all know that I have posted a Safari Keyboard 
 reference to http://www.douglawlor.com/safari-keyboard-reference. 
 
 Any comments on these references would be well appreciated,
 
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Re: Is this calendar app accessible?

[Doug Lawlor]

Hi Christina,
You can download a demo of this app at http://flexibits.com/fantastical. 

Doug

On 2011-07-13, at 7:03 PM, Christina wrote:

 Hi, I just have not been able to grasp iCal and therefore, I do not use a 
 calendar app but I need to.  Well, this mac app is very appealing to me 
 because all you have to do is type in your event without having to move from 
 edit text boxes and such.  It's $19.99 and I don't want to fork out the bucks 
 if it 's not accessible.  Has anyone tried the app called fantastical?  
 Here's the link for the US mac app store:
 
 http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/fantastical/id435003921?mt=12
 
 Here's also a brief  description. I copied with the control plus option plus 
 shift plus C then pasted it below:
 
 Meet your new assistant. Make your calendar fun again with natural language 
 event creation combined with a beautiful calendar and event list. With native 
 CalDAV support, automatic alarms for new events, and instant search, 
 Fantastical helps you stay on top of your schedule. [Fantastical] makes it 
 much easier and more convenient to quickly create new events. - Macworld 
 Fantastical is the calendar assistant to install on every Mac that has to 
 deal with calendars. - MacStories Fantastical looks fantastic (couldn't 
 resist) and works quite well. - TUAW The easiest way to create new events • 
 Open Fantastical by clicking the menu bar icon or pressing a customizable 
 keyboard shortcut • Type in your event details and press return • That's it! 
 Stay on top of your day • The event list and calendar allow you to easily 
 locate and plan all of your events • Color-coding and beautiful design help 
 you quickly make sense of your schedule • Change the number of events you 
 want displayed, providing focus and convenience • Click any event to show 
 important details • Use search to instantly locate your events Works the way 
 you do • Works with your favorite applications: iCal, BusyCal, Entourage, or 
 Outlook • Stay in sync with built-in CalDAV support • Automatically add 
 alarms to your new events Fantastical — your Mac's calendar will never be the 
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Re: Safari Keyboard Reference Posted

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I'll try to get a Mail reference posted tomorrow. 
Doug



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 I just wanted to let you all know that I have posted a Safari Keyboard 
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Re: instructions for how to burn a bootable copy of Lion to DVD

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Applications purchased from the Mac App Store are installed in your 
applications folder. I assume that Lion will be no different.

Doug

On 2011-07-08, at 5:43 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

 As there has been a fair amount of discussion of Lion Yesterday and whether 
 or not one can install it from a DVD, I thought perhaps it might be of use to 
 post the link to a page which gives instructions for exactly how to do this.
 
 http://www.tuaw.com/2011/06/07/how-to-burn-a-lion-boot-disc/
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
 
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Re: office applications

[Doug Lawlor]

Hi James,
I am not the biggest user of office applications of any kind. However, People 
say that Pages is quite accessible. I'm quite sure that someone on this list 
has done a podcast using the Numbers spreadsheet app. I honestly down't know 
about the rest of the apps in the iWork sweet because I don't use them. 

Doug

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 what do you all use for office tasks?
 I have never heard of any good accessible office programs for mac, i have 
 heard of LibreOffice but don't know if it is accessible.
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Re: MarsEdit Keyboard Reference Posted

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Hi Sarah,
I will try to get something completed for Safari next. It will be most likely 
be tomorrow I will be able to get this done. 
Doug

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 Hi Dough,
 
 It seems like this keyboard reference is for posting and using blogs.  I
 would appreciate keyboard reference guides for other applications.  For
 example, text editior, e-mail program, Safari, and etc.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Sarah
 
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 Subject: MarsEdit Keyboard Reference Posted
 
 hello list:
 For those who are interested in the wonderful blog editor MarsEdit, I have
 posted a keyboard reference at:
 http://www.douglawlor.com/marsedit-keyboard-reference
 I hope people find this helpful. I would be interested to know if people
 would want to see more keyboard reference lists like the one I have posted
 for other applications.  
 
 I Look forward to your comments, 
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MarsEdit Keyboard Reference Posted

[Doug Lawlor]

hello list:
For those who are interested in the wonderful blog editor MarsEdit, I have 
posted a keyboard reference at: 
http://www.douglawlor.com/marsedit-keyboard-reference
I hope people find this helpful. I would be interested to know if people would 
want to see more keyboard reference lists like the one I have posted for other 
applications.  

I Look forward to your comments, 
Doug

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Re: Wouldn't a braille keyboard be nice?

[Doug Lawlor]

Doesn't the same company who makes the Braille pen make a keyboard only device? 
I thought they did


Doug

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On 2011-07-07, at 9:05 AM, Missy Hoppe melis...@fuse.net wrote:

 It can be; depends on your braille skills. I've been typing on a traditional 
 keyboard since I was 8, so that's why I know my
 hands wouldn't work on the actual mac keyboard the wahy that's been 
 described. They've had 30 years of knowing that the
 square keys get pressed one at a time. LOL! But on a dedicated braille 
 keyboard, especially if it enabled you to type in
 grade two braille, then yes, in theory, you could type lots faster. It's a 
 neat idea, but it definitely needs to be a
 separate device.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
 Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 7:25 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Wouldn't a braille keyboard be nice?
 
 Hi,
 
 couldn't such a keyboard be connected via bluetooth as well.  This would 
 remove the need of a USB port.  But in general, as a
 non braille user, what would this accomplish?  Is typing on a braille 
 keyboard generally faster than a regular keyboard?
 
 TIA
 
 Ricardo Walker
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 www.mobileaccess.org
 
 
 
 On Jul 7, 2011, at 7:11 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
 
 I think the only impractical thing with what you're saying is it would be 
 annoying seeing the macbooks only have 2 u s b
 ports on the stocked plain white models, like I have, so, this would mean, 
 you'd only have 1 u s b port then to work with.
 Two in my opinion is bad enough. I don't see why on the white models they 
 didn't give us a few more.  I can't speak for the
 eluminum pro models.  I only've seen them maybe once or twice at an Apple 
 store, so I don't totally remember how they looked.
 
 Chris.
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Editing with Marsedit?

[Doug Lawlor]

Hello list:
How do I go about editing with Mars edit? When I am editing text and turn 
QuickNav off I don't get any response when using up, down, left, and right 
arrow keys. Can I fix this?

Thanks, 

Doug

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