Message pending requests
Hi moderators, Can you take my address off the moderators list? Message pending requests have been filling up my inbox all day and making me crazy! Thanks! Olivia Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: some IOS4 questions
How do you create folders? Purposely, that is LOL! "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower", Steve Jobs On Jun 27, 2010, at 7:21 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Lol, > > No No No. The reseting of your home screen to get rid of folders you made is > completely unnecessary. First if you aren't already in the folder you > created double tap on it. Then find the app you want to remove from the > folder and double tap and hold like your going to move the app. Then while > your fingers still down, do a flick up, like when your moving the cursor in > an edit field. Do this until you empty the folder and the folder will delete > itself. > > hth > On Jun 27, 2010, at 9:45 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > >> Hmm, interesting. It worked. The utilities folder is kind of weird, >> though, I wonder why it does that. >> Thanks for the tip. >> Best, >> Donna >> On Jun 27, 2010, at 9:10 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> to answer your first 2 questions, reset yoru home screen lay out. go to >>> settings, general, reset and reset homescreen layout. You will notice after >>> you do this there is a utilities folder. that conains all of yoru clock and >>> stuff there. >>> >>> Good luck. >>> >>> s >>> On Jun 27, 2010, at 6:12 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: >>> Well, after installing IOS4 this afternoon, I've been playing around a bit, and already managed to get myself in a pickle. :) I hadn't gotten around to learning about folders yet, but somehow I made one, and stuck a couple of my apps in it. Can anyone tell me: 1. How do I remove my apps from the folder? and 2. How can I delete the folder? and my last question, have any of you who have upgraded noticed that the volume is considerably softer? Not too crazy about that change, personally. Thanks in advance, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Question about audible.com
How does webkit work? Is it another web browser, or what? Do I run it instead of, or in conjunction with, safari? Thanks, Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower", Steve Jobs On Jun 27, 2010, at 7:10 AM, Chris Moore wrote: > Some users have downloaded the updated webkit for Safari which seems to fix > the problem www.webkit.org > On 27 Jun 2010, at 15:06, Kevin Mattingly wrote: > >> It may've been posted before but has anyone had luck with the audible.com >> site? It crashes on me everytime I try to go to the main page. >> >> Kev >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: closing apps on the iPod and iPhone
Press the home button twice. Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower", Steve Jobs On Jun 24, 2010, at 6:04 AM, Doug Lawlor wrote: > How do I access the app switcher? I am not seeing an app switcher here. > > Thanks, > > Doug > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 2010-06-23, at 10:52 PM, Chris Snyder wrote: > >> Thanks, Chris. >> It worked beautifully. >> >> Friendly, >> Chris >> >> On Jun 23, 2010, at 3:46 PM, Chris Moore wrote: >> >>> Go to the app switcher and then double tap on the app, but on the second >>> tap you hold for a few seconds. You are then in edit mode, just simply >>> double tap the app to be removed. from the app switcher. >>> >>> Chris >>> On 23 Jun 2010, at 22:29, Chris Snyder wrote: >>> Hi all, So when I hit the home button, it appears to close the app, but when I go to the app switcher, the app I tried to close is still there. How does one close the apps now in IOS4? Friendly, Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: my mac comes in 5 days yay!
Congratulations on your new mac and on getting a rehab agency to purchase it for you! I hope that more agencies are beginning to realize how innovative Apple is, and that they will start offering students the option of getting macs. After all, a sighted student has the option to purchase any computer they like, so why don't the same rules apply? Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower", Steve Jobs On Jun 24, 2010, at 5:59 AM, Allison Manzino wrote: > Hi Josh, > > Congratulations on your Macbook Pro! oh that is just awesome! Congratulations > on breaking through the Jaws barrier as well, smile. I live in New York, and > all my Voc Rehab agency would purchase for me is a Dell running you guess it, > Jaws. I'm so excited for you. Are you the same Josh Kennedy that did a > podcast on Loadstone a while back? I'm sorry for asking, but your name sounds > familiar to me. I think that's why. I hope I'm not getting you confused with > someone else if so, I apologize. I can only hope my Voc Rehab agency will be > as great as yours in contracting with Handytech for my Braillino. BrailleNote > still won't work on my Macbook. Have a great day. > > Allison > > On Jun 24, 2010, at 8:51 AM, Josh wrote: > >> Hi >> >> Well guess what, my mac will be here in five days! The technical person that >> voc rehab contracts with based on my needs for school, and I aalso have a >> sneaky suspician she also recommended the mac because I have been asking for >> a year or so now for voc rehab to get me a mac for a job I turned down a few >> months ago, then again asked for a mac for school so I think also because >> I've been asking and asking for it. >> Anyway it will be here in five days. And she said voc rehab or my counselor >> said they normally don't recommend macs. they usually get people dell >> computers with jaws on them. >> I'm getting a 13 inch macbook pro . it has a 250gb hard drive with windows7 >> home installed with bootcamp. 2.4ghz dual core processor, 4gigs of ram. On >> the windows side I'll use nvda and system access. She called me or rather I >> got in touch with her. she said she was playing with the mac, with snnow >> leopard a bit. she said to me she didn't realise voiceover had all these >> commands so blind people could use it! I think depending on how I like my >> mac then she said depending on the feedback I give her, she will then >> recommend voc rehab get macs for mostof their blind clients in the future. >> so according to her I am the first blind person in my state to get a macbook >> pro or a mac at all! >> I can't wait to get my new mac! >> >> Josh >> >> -- >> Josh Kennedy jkenn...@gmail.com >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Webkit and Audible
how do I get it? Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower", Steve Jobs On Jun 23, 2010, at 6:25 PM, David McLean wrote: > Hello, I downloaded the latest version of webkit this evening and it seems so > far to be working with Audible. Those of you like me who have had problems > with Safari v5 might want to give it a try. > So far so good! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MobileMe redesigned website
I also love the find my iPhone feature. Is this accessible with VO now? Last I checked it wasn't. Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 18, 2010, at 7:10 AM, M. Taylor wrote: > > Hello, > > Personally, I absolutely adore Mobile Me.com. I think it is one of the best > investments I've ever made. It's simple, secure, and Mac-Centric. > > While I use both the syncing features of Google on both an enterprise and > personal level, as well as taking advantage of the vast resources of like > features on Microsoft's SkyDrive and Live.com, I wouldn't give up my Mobile > Me features for all the money in the world. Beside, I love the "find my > iPhone" feature. > > Mark > > > > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Blake Sinnett > Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 6:56 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: MobileMe redesigned website > > MobileMe is a waste of money in my opinion. I sync my Gmail and contacts > with Google Sync. This way I keep my contacts up to date no matter what > device I'm using, whether it be running Windows, Mac, iOS or Windows Mobile. > > >> Subject: Re: MobileMe redesigned website >> From: olivianor...@gmail.com >> Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 06:48:56 -0700 >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> >> How do you even read your mail with the mobile me site? I just use Apple > mail for this, and addressbook and iCal for the other things. Has anyone > figured out iDisk? I love mobile me because it pushes all my contacts to all > my devices, but I certainly find the web interface pretty inaccessible. >> Olivia >> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs >> >> On Jun 18, 2010, at 6:02 AM, Chris Moore wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Have any of you taken a look at the re-designed mobileme site yet? I am > sure visually it is stunning, but it seems even less accessible then the > previous site. Ok I can still read my mail, but trying to switch between > applications such as calendars, contacts etc seems impossible. I am also > trying to add a alias to my email and know how to do it if I was sighted, > but trying to do this with VO is a nightmare. >>> >>> The only buttons that appear are listed under form controls, everything > else shows up as empty (i.e. no headers or links) The item chooser brings up > a great deal of options. >>> >>> Anyone else had better luck? This should be very straight forward to use > but is not which surprises me when it is from Apple. I have sent an email to > Apple accessibility, will let you know what they say. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: installing windows on macs? What are the advantages/why do people opt for this?
Hi! I went through a year of graduate school using pages to write my papers, and the lowest grade I got was a b+. I was able to format correctly, and accomplish all tasks just fine. If you would like some pointers and tips, feel free to email me off list, I'm happy to help! :) Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 18, 2010, at 10:11 AM, Scott Howell wrote: > Hi Olivia, > > Well I can of course speak for myself, but let me share a few things with you: > 1. I use windows only for school projects/related activities. Specifically I > use OUtlook Express to follow the message postings, which are not a typical > news group format. I have been after the developers of Unison for quite a > while and they keep promising html support, which I think they implemented, > but then they went off and broke accessibility of Unison now and I cannot use > it for reading the news groups. > 2. I am also needing to use Word and Power Point, which I have iWorks, but I > have not mastered it sufficiently to write papers. > > I also do have windows on my MBP at work, however, there it is necessary > since I have to be able to work with the software available and They do not > offer alternatives yet. > I am lucky in that my employer purchased the screen reader, which I can use > on more than one machine and I did not have to pay for XP. So I am fortunate, > not to have spent any money. Once I can ensure I will turn out good paper s > using Pages, then I will have one less reason to waste my time with windows. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: installing windows on macs? What are the advantages/why do people opt for this?
It's interesting that blackboard didn't work for you. I was a student for a year lst winter, and I got great results with blackboard and safari. Hopefully, the mac will soon replace that expensive third party software for you! :) I totally understand that some still need windows, and I'm kind of enjoying finding out all of this information from all of you! Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 18, 2010, at 7:38 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > Hi Olivia, > > Remember that a lot of us who are coming to the Mac now, have been Windows > users for many years, which means, unfortunately, that we already own that > expensive third-party software. :) > > Speaking only for myself of course, I got a Mac b/c I like the notion of > out-of-the-box accessibility, and I want to support Apple in this approach. > I would also be happy to stop paying for upgrades to that expensive 3rd-party > software. When I bought my Mac, my plan had been to abandon Windows > completely, but I have found that simply isn't possible. Right now, there is > not a good scanning option for the Mac, unless you want to commit to > fine-reader without a demo, and use it in conjunction with Vuescan. My copy > of Kurzweil works great, so I continue to scan on my old Windows machine. I > also find that some Word docs with tables in them read much better in Windows > than on the Mac. I also use the Duxbury translator, which runs under > Windows. Also, several of us have noted that audio captchas work much better > under windows than they do on the Mac. Moreover, at least on the faculty > end, Blackboard works *much better under Windows, in fact, as of last winter, > Safari 4 wasn't even supported. So, though I had not planned to continue > using Windows, for all of the above reasons, I still do. My solution has > been to simply hang onto my Windows machine. But if you can't do that for > whatever reason, your only option is to run a dual-boot system on your Mac. > > I love my Mac, but right now it simply cannot completely replace my Windows > machine. So, until it can, I'll be running both. > Take care, > Donna > On Jun 18, 2010, at 10:05 AM, Olivia Norman wrote: > >> Hi Everyone, >> Now, this is just my opinion, so don't flame me to much, OK? :) I just >> don't understand totally why people install windows on the mac and what they >> use it for? It seems to me, and my admittedly limited experience with >> windows over the last few years, that it just simply isn't worth the trouble >> and expense for most people. Consider that windows isn't accessible out of >> the box, so you've often got to get some expensive third party solution like >> Jaws to make it accessible to you, as well as purchasing windows. I guess >> the question I'm asking here, is if you're going to shell out the cash for >> windows, and the third party access solutions, why get a mac in te first >> place? Also, from a VO users prospective, how difficult is it to switch >> between the two operating systems? >> I'm just curious, and if you're using windows, I would be interested in >> knowing why and how you switch between the OS's? >> Thanks for appeasing my curiosity! I'm sure there are totally good reasons >> for using windows on a mac, I'd just like to know why/what they are! >> Olivia >> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: installing windows on macs? What are the advantages/why do people opt for this?
You're like me! I'm a true mac fan girl, and I'd never use jaws again, personally. I'm pretty lucky because I can use my mac at work, but I know unfortunately, that most places are still using windows and microsoft. I hope you're able to figure out jaws enough to use it for work. I am sure that there are people on this list who can give you some jaws tips and tricks. Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 18, 2010, at 7:28 AM, Chris Moore wrote: > I have parallels installed on my Mac. I already had Windows xp installed via > BootCamp which I used rarely for applications that you could not get to run > on a Mac back in the day when I used to have a Nokia phone and a Sat nav that > was not a tom tom. After losing my site I thought I would install Parallels > to take advantage of my boot camp and read that it was better and faster then > VMware.'s Fusion. > > I did needed some sighted assistance to set it up. Not sure if Fusion would > be better then this. What I do like is that Zoom on the Mac seems to work on > the Windows side too. I have downloaded JAWS 11 demo so I can try and learn > it a little before I have to use it at work. I think the majority of people > probably use Windows on their Mac occasionally to run the odd application > that is not available for the Mac. I know others who use it for gaming. > > Life would be much easier if my Employer would just let me hook up my Mac to > their network, but sadly everything they use is Microsoft. My experience of > JAWS so far is awful! I started using VO before learning JAWS which is > probably the opposite of most. It feels like taking a step backwards to be > honest. Yes lots of things work, but I find it very clumsy not having a rota > to flick between forms and headers and stuff. None of this press INS and > function key whatever. Maybe in time I might prefer it, but I doubt it as I > am a true Mac boy. > On 18 Jun 2010, at 15:05, Olivia Norman wrote: > >> Hi Everyone, >> Now, this is just my opinion, so don't flame me to much, OK? :) I just >> don't understand totally why people install windows on the mac and what they >> use it for? It seems to me, and my admittedly limited experience with >> windows over the last few years, that it just simply isn't worth the trouble >> and expense for most people. Consider that windows isn't accessible out of >> the box, so you've often got to get some expensive third party solution like >> Jaws to make it accessible to you, as well as purchasing windows. I guess >> the question I'm asking here, is if you're going to shell out the cash for >> windows, and the third party access solutions, why get a mac in te first >> place? Also, from a VO users prospective, how difficult is it to switch >> between the two operating systems? >> I'm just curious, and if you're using windows, I would be interested in >> knowing why and how you switch between the OS's? >> Thanks for appeasing my curiosity! I'm sure there are totally good reasons >> for using windows on a mac, I'd just like to know why/what they are! >> Olivia >> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: installing windows on macs? What are the advantages/why do people opt for this?
This makes great sense! Thanks for putting this so clearly! I do completely understand where you're coming from, and this is exactly the kind of information I was intersetd in obtaining! I'd probably be more inclined to use windows if screen readers were less expensive and more accessible. If you've already payed the price for jaws, though, I can see the benefits and why you would take this route! :) Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 18, 2010, at 7:38 AM, M. Taylor wrote: > Hello Olivia, > > I would never dream of flaming you or anyone for asking an honest question. > > While I'm short on time, I wanted to give you an answer from someone who is > not biased against either platform, something that is becoming harder and > harder to find, sadly. > > I find that I am traveling great distances on the weekends, these days. For > a while, I would take two computers with me my beloved MacBook Pro 13-inch, > and my beloved Acer 7-inch NetBook, simply the most adorable thing I've ever > seen. > > The reason why I take two is probably obvious; there are some programs in > Windows 7, such as MS Money and OpenBook, that require Windows. Also, > although I know Mac users will hate this, many web pages simply work better > with Internet Explorer. Remember, I don't make the news, I simply report it > so don't shoot the messenger, OK? (Smile) Also, I use GoldWave and I do so > in Windows. > > Now, keep in mind that while my MacBook Pro is much larger than my cute > little NetBook, it gets up to 3 times as long of battery life, it's much > faster, and quite frankly, it provides a more enjoyable physical working > platform. > > Now that I have a full working virtual machine with Windows 7 Ultimate with > Jaws, I have the best of both worlds on one machine. Less cords to keep > track of and a faster computer, to boot. > > Also, any resources I attach to the Mac, such as my Verizon Wireless > AirCard, is automatically available to the Windows 7 virtual machine. > > Finally, since using Windows 7 Ultimate in a virtual environment, there is > no need to run virus scanners or anything else that may slow down the > Windows experience for, assuming I keep backup copies of the virtual > machine, should anything get corrupted, (not likely to happen) I simply > delete the infected machine and replace it with the backup copy complete > with everything intact including my installed licensed copy of Jaws. > > I hope this helps you understand the benefit of a Windows virtual machine on > a Mac. > > Oh! One more thing, with the current problems of Safari 5, it's nice to be > able to quickly switch to Internet Explorer to enjoy the web. > > Olivia, remember, it's all about options and choices, the most wonderful > liberty in the universe, to be sure. > > Have a wonderful day, > > Mark > > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Olivia Norman > Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 7:06 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: installing windows on macs? What are the advantages/why do people > opt for this? > > Hi Everyone, > Now, this is just my opinion, so don't flame me to much, OK? :) I just > don't understand totally why people install windows on the mac and what they > use it for? It seems to me, and my admittedly limited experience with > windows over the last few years, that it just simply isn't worth the trouble > and expense for most people. Consider that windows isn't accessible out of > the box, so you've often got to get some expensive third party solution like > Jaws to make it accessible to you, as well as purchasing windows. I guess > the question I'm asking here, is if you're going to shell out the cash for > windows, and the third party access solutions, why get a mac in te first > place? Also, from a VO users prospective, how difficult is it to switch > between the two operating systems? > I'm just curious, and if you're using windows, I would be interested in > knowing why and how you switch between the OS's? > Thanks for appeasing my curiosity! I'm sure there are totally good reasons > for using windows on a mac, I'd just like to know why/what they are! > Olivia > "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this
installing windows on macs? What are the advantages/why do people opt for this?
Hi Everyone, Now, this is just my opinion, so don't flame me to much, OK? :) I just don't understand totally why people install windows on the mac and what they use it for? It seems to me, and my admittedly limited experience with windows over the last few years, that it just simply isn't worth the trouble and expense for most people. Consider that windows isn't accessible out of the box, so you've often got to get some expensive third party solution like Jaws to make it accessible to you, as well as purchasing windows. I guess the question I'm asking here, is if you're going to shell out the cash for windows, and the third party access solutions, why get a mac in te first place? Also, from a VO users prospective, how difficult is it to switch between the two operating systems? I'm just curious, and if you're using windows, I would be interested in knowing why and how you switch between the OS's? Thanks for appeasing my curiosity! I'm sure there are totally good reasons for using windows on a mac, I'd just like to know why/what they are! Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MobileMe redesigned website
haven't tried google sync, but I never use windows devices, so mobile me works well for what I need. Different solutions work for different people, though. Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 18, 2010, at 6:55 AM, Blake Sinnett wrote: > MobileMe is a waste of money in my opinion. I sync my Gmail and contacts with > Google Sync. This way I keep my contacts up to date no matter what device I'm > using, whether it be running Windows, Mac, iOS or Windows Mobile. > > > > Subject: Re: MobileMe redesigned website > > From: olivianor...@gmail.com > > Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 06:48:56 -0700 > > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > > > > How do you even read your mail with the mobile me site? I just use Apple > > mail for this, and addressbook and iCal for the other things. Has anyone > > figured out iDisk? I love mobile me because it pushes all my contacts to > > all my devices, but I certainly find the web interface pretty inaccessible. > > Olivia > > "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs > > > > On Jun 18, 2010, at 6:02 AM, Chris Moore wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > Have any of you taken a look at the re-designed mobileme site yet? I am > > > sure visually it is stunning, but it seems even less accessible then the > > > previous site. Ok I can still read my mail, but trying to switch between > > > applications such as calendars, contacts etc seems impossible. I am also > > > trying to add a alias to my email and know how to do it if I was sighted, > > > but trying to do this with VO is a nightmare. > > > > > > The only buttons that appear are listed under form controls, everything > > > else shows up as empty (i.e. no headers or links) The item chooser brings > > > up a great deal of options. > > > > > > Anyone else had better luck? This should be very straight forward to use > > > but is not which surprises me when it is from Apple. I have sent an email > > > to Apple accessibility, will let you know what they say. > > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "MacVisionaries" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email > > > tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit this group > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "MacVisionaries" group. > > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email > > tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email > tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: new apple user
I don't know about running the adaptive technology stuff on the mac, soI'll leave that to someone who has more experience with open book, etc, but I wonder whether you've tried iWork and pages? These programs work just as well as MS word once you play around with them, and you'd eliminate the need for windows and jaws on the mac if you went that route. Also, there are OCR programs like Abby fine reader express which work well on the mac, and could potentially replace open book for you. Just a few things to think about. Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 18, 2010, at 1:52 AM, denise avant wrote: > Hi all, > I’ve had my mac book pro for a couple of weeks now. While I’ve not had an > opportunity to sit and learn it just yet, I’ve been able to do some work on > it. > I’m going to use vm fusion and perhaps windows 7 to run some of the important > programs I need like ms word openbook, and Duxbury. > I’m just wondering what version of windows 7 would be best? > Thanks. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MobileMe redesigned website
How do you even read your mail with the mobile me site? I just use Apple mail for this, and addressbook and iCal for the other things. Has anyone figured out iDisk? I love mobile me because it pushes all my contacts to all my devices, but I certainly find the web interface pretty inaccessible. Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 18, 2010, at 6:02 AM, Chris Moore wrote: > Hi all, > > Have any of you taken a look at the re-designed mobileme site yet? I am sure > visually it is stunning, but it seems even less accessible then the previous > site. Ok I can still read my mail, but trying to switch between applications > such as calendars, contacts etc seems impossible. I am also trying to add a > alias to my email and know how to do it if I was sighted, but trying to do > this with VO is a nightmare. > > The only buttons that appear are listed under form controls, everything else > shows up as empty (i.e. no headers or links) The item chooser brings up a > great deal of options. > > Anyone else had better luck? This should be very straight forward to use but > is not which surprises me when it is from Apple. I have sent an email to > Apple accessibility, will let you know what they say. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Prospective Mac User
Very well put, Laura! :) I agree with all theat you've said! Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 17, 2010, at 4:49 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > Laura, very well stated and very much to the point. > > On Jun 17, 2010, at 7:43 PM, Laura M wrote: > >> As to 1, I find messaging on the Mac to be much, much more enjoyable >> than I ever did on Windows. If you want to, you can use it the way you >> describe, so you don't have to switch back and forth between the >> message area and typing field, but even if you use it by tabbing >> between them, your place is generally remembered, at least on iChat. >> It also handles multi-person chats better than anything I ever had >> with Windows. and the best part is, it works without any kind of Jaws >> overlay. The same commands I use to switch between windows, or bring >> up contacts are exactly the same for non-Voiceover users. >> >> On a general point, I think listening to demos isn't a good way of >> figuring out whether you'll be efficient. They don't sound convincing >> in that regard, I know. That's no fault of the demos, I don't think. >> It's just hard because some of the concepts, like interacting, seem >> much more complicated than they are when you're just hearing about >> them. When you're using them, they're far more intuitive--or at least, >> they were for me. >> >> Once I started using it, I found that I loved the Voiceover way of >> doing things. I don't know if it's always more efficient (though I >> certainly don't think it's less), but it's more useful than that for >> me. Between group mode and the trackpad, I have a far better sense of >> how websites and screens work. There's a context that was never >> present with JAWS. I know, for example, how the mail program is laid >> out, or that certain webpages have easily accessible sidebars that I >> can instantly reach. That absolutely does make me more efficient, >> because instead of tabbing or arrowing everywhere, I can just touch >> where I want to be. Far, far fewer keystrokes. And because I know >> where things are, if I'm explaining something to a friend or family >> member, I can help them visually identify it far more easily than I >> could've with JAWS. It really has shortened the distance between how I >> use a computer and how my sighted friends do, and that's awesome. >> >> That's also why I like that VO doesn't make assumptions about what I >> want it to do, or decide that I'll inevitably want certain extra >> commands. There are some essential things that really do have to be >> there for basic functionality, and a lot of really cool stuff that >> just makes life easier, but I'm not relying on the kind of special >> JAWS scripts to get things done. Again, it increase parity between me >> and everyone else using Macs. I didn't know it at the time, but now I >> really do feel that JAWS was a layer between me and the operating >> system, which in many cases made it very difficult if scripts broke, >> or programs were updated, or I was simply trying to explain to a non- >> JAWS user how I did something. Now I tell them what steps I take, and >> in most cases, they can replicate them. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Prospective Mac User
LOL! I shall keep that in mind! :)
Very true.
Olivia
"Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs
On Jun 17, 2010, at 1:01 PM, Chris Snyder wrote:
> Now Olivia,
> As an avid science fiction reader, watcher and even singer, I feel you have
> insulted science fiction to the core by slapping the name of a noble genre
> onto a company which has absolutely no interest in the end users of its
> products. Remember the first law of robotics? Do not harm humans. Jaws has
> certainly harmed me financially and at times emotionally. Be kind to science
> fiction, and don't besmirch its good name. :) lol
>
> Friendly,
> Chris
>
> On Jun 16, 2010, at 5:13 PM, Olivia Norman wrote:
>
>> What do you feel Freedom Science-fiction and jaws provide that VO lacks?
>> I'm just curious.
>> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs
>>
>> On Jun 16, 2010, at 4:25 PM, cathyk wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Kolby,
>>> I bought my MacBook Pro about a month ago, and am largely happy. But
>>> there are a few important things to know. 1) VO doesn't work with all
>>> programs, notably MS Word. I was surprised that such an industry
>>> standard requires finding workarounds every time you open a document,
>>> which isn't ideal when doing collaborative writing projects or comment
>>> on hundreds of papers electronically as I do. Whether this is Apple's
>>> or Microsoft's fault, the bottom line is that Word files need to be
>>> "translated" through programs like "Preview" (which comes installed)
>>> or Pages in iworks, which requires laying out another $50 or $60.
>>> Some say the new freeware version of Open Office works better; I
>>> haven't tried, so I'd love to hear from someone who writes and edits a
>>> lot. Even if it works better than the paid version, I suspect other
>>> features get lost - alas, you get what you pay for. 2) the
>>> portability features seem terrific but you should consider which
>>> environments you'll be wanting to access because at least for now the
>>> Mac market is quite small in comparison to PCs, so the number of
>>> computers where your USB settings will work is fairly small. 3) VO is
>>> very good, but it isn't JAWS or ZoomText. Many of us dream of a day
>>> when we can use out-of-the-box technology just like everyone else;
>>> we're much, much closer, but that day isn't there yet. 4) The user
>>> support is limited for VO. This discussion list is excellent, but I
>>> still have a growing list of questions that people can't answer and
>>> that are impossible to look up. Even the in-depth manual isn't *that*
>>> in-depth. This means there's a kind of pioneer spirit to the whole
>>> thing, with people figuring out this and that just like they would
>>> sort out how to repair a wagon wheel a thousand miles from
>>> civilization. That's exciting, hip, and creative, but sometimes you
>>> just want a simple answer to a nagging problem that's still beyond
>>> even the best macvisionaries. All that said, I'm enjoying my new
>>> machine.
>>> Best,
>>> Cathyk
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 16, 2:10 pm, Pete Nalda wrote:
>>>> First off, don't worry about what may be going on at the moment, with the
>>>> update. Mac OS is still so much easier in general to deal with than
>>>> windows and its various screen readers. This may not apply for everyone
>>>> on here but to me the choice was economical. Every time there was a new
>>>> version of windows, I'd have to purchase a new version ("upgrade") of
>>>> ZoomText. I got tired of playing that game. Every time I buy a new
>>>> version of Mac OSX, I get a new version of Zoom *and* VoiceOver :)
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 16, 2010, at 3:21 PM, Kolby Garrison wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>>> I am considering purchasing a mac book pro, and I wanted to know what
>>>>> satisfied mac users have to say about the pros and cons of mac and
>>>>> windows. I have been researching voiceover, and it sounds like a very
>>>>> stable screen reading solution. I like the portable preferences feature,
>>>>> and from what I have read thus far I do believe that a mac book pro will
>>>>> be purchased in my very near future. I will go to an apple store for so
Re: One more thing for Colbie
Very very true. I can't count the number of times my windows machines did that, and in my three years of using macs I've never had an issue that required sighted help to resolve. "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 16, 2010, at 5:25 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote: > Colbie, I forgot to say this. I have never had the Mac crash to where I > couldn't fix it myself without sighted assistance. In my opinion, that is > probably top of the list in the advantages column. You can completely > reinstall the operating system all on your own without sighted assistance. > We can't say that about windows. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: The Safari 5 Journey
I'd be really interested to hear from you about your experiences as first a sighted user and now a blind user of Apple products. If you get a moment, would you mind emailing me off list? My address is olivianor...@me.com I'm also happy to help you with iWork. :) Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 16, 2010, at 3:55 PM, Chris Moore wrote: > Thank you that is very kind of you and I may take you up on that offer. I > have thought about iWork as it might be the only option, was hoping the new > version might be out by no. I also believe OpenOffice is also VO friendly, > anyone had experience with it? Sadly i do need MS Office compatibility and > it looks like the next version of Office is going to be no better. > Unfortunately I have to use Windows at work, wish they used Macs! > > to be honest now I have got to grips with most of VoiceOver's shortcuts and > Apple's keyboard shortcuts I find I am now whizzing around the mac faster > than I did when I could see I find with VoiceOver you have to do very > little reaching for key strokes thanks to the rota and VO buttons and cursor > keys/touch pad. With jawS you have to use the number pad a lot and the > function keys for surfing etc. And there is a forms mode? What is all that > about? > On 16 Jun 2010, at 23:33, Olivia Norman wrote: > >> I can't speak to FB on windows, either, haven't used jaws in three years, >> have no plans or desire to go back to windows! >> Have you tried iWork? It has similar functionality to MS office and works >> very well with VO. You can also read and work with documents created by MS >> office. If you need to work wiht someone using office, you can easily save >> documents in MS word, excell, and powerpoint formats. If you have any >> questions about any of this, feel free to email me off list. >> Olivia >> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs >> >> On Jun 16, 2010, at 2:18 PM, Chris Moore wrote: >> >>> I have a 18 month old MacBook which has the new track pad and I also have a >>> 2 and a half year old iMac and I have experienced the same problem with >>> both machines. was on the Apple site today and was trying to download a >>> manual for the iPod Nano and VoiceOver had a heart attack. >>> Before Safari 5 I was using iChat to chat to friends via Facebook (jabber) >>> and now it won't work, it connects ok but all I see is a series of numbers >>> when someone tries to chat to me. Very frustrating as I have only been a >>> VO user for 2 months as I lost my vision in March. I have been a mac user >>> for 10 years. >>> >>> Sadly many apps I used to use do not really work with VO such MS Office, >>> MSN Messenger keeps crashing and I am unable to use Logic Pro 9 and Reason. >>> I have emailed the makers of Reason and they tell me they have no plans to >>> add VO support to their products (money down the drain for me then), just >>> hoping Apple add support to Logic. >>> >>> All in all VO is wonderful and very easy to use, its the third party >>> developers that are the problem. I also wish Facebook was easier to use, I >>> am having to switch between Mac and Iphone to use it and VO is not a >>> pleasurable experience on either device. I can't say at this stage if fb >>> is any better on Windows with JAWS. I will be learning JAWS for work soon. >>> On 16 Jun 2010, at 22:00, Olivia Norman wrote: >>> >>>> I wonder the same thing. My macbook is a year old and has the current >>>> trackpad and specs. I am out of town, but am going to wait until I get >>>> home to update my iMac, which I got in December of 2009. It will be >>>> interesting to see whether they have the same problems. >>>> >>>> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs >>>> >>>> On Jun 16, 2010, at 1:54 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm really curious. I'm not experiencing any of these issues with Safari >>>>> 5. I use Safari all day to research the answers to queries in the >>>>> translations I do. I also use Audible.com and have no problems with that, >>>>> either. >>>>> >>>>> I'm wondering if this depends on the hardware being used. I have a >>>>> 3-year-old MacBook which has a couple of major differences from the >>>>> current crop of
Re: Prospective Mac User
What do you feel Freedom Sciencefiction and jaws provide that VO lacks?
I'm just curious.
"Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs
On Jun 16, 2010, at 4:25 PM, cathyk wrote:
> Hi Kolby,
> I bought my MacBook Pro about a month ago, and am largely happy. But
> there are a few important things to know. 1) VO doesn't work with all
> programs, notably MS Word. I was surprised that such an industry
> standard requires finding workarounds every time you open a document,
> which isn't ideal when doing collaborative writing projects or comment
> on hundreds of papers electronically as I do. Whether this is Apple's
> or Microsoft's fault, the bottom line is that Word files need to be
> "translated" through programs like "Preview" (which comes installed)
> or Pages in iworks, which requires laying out another $50 or $60.
> Some say the new freeware version of Open Office works better; I
> haven't tried, so I'd love to hear from someone who writes and edits a
> lot. Even if it works better than the paid version, I suspect other
> features get lost - alas, you get what you pay for. 2) the
> portability features seem terrific but you should consider which
> environments you'll be wanting to access because at least for now the
> Mac market is quite small in comparison to PCs, so the number of
> computers where your USB settings will work is fairly small. 3) VO is
> very good, but it isn't JAWS or ZoomText. Many of us dream of a day
> when we can use out-of-the-box technology just like everyone else;
> we're much, much closer, but that day isn't there yet. 4) The user
> support is limited for VO. This discussion list is excellent, but I
> still have a growing list of questions that people can't answer and
> that are impossible to look up. Even the in-depth manual isn't *that*
> in-depth. This means there's a kind of pioneer spirit to the whole
> thing, with people figuring out this and that just like they would
> sort out how to repair a wagon wheel a thousand miles from
> civilization. That's exciting, hip, and creative, but sometimes you
> just want a simple answer to a nagging problem that's still beyond
> even the best macvisionaries. All that said, I'm enjoying my new
> machine.
> Best,
> Cathyk
>
>
>
> On Jun 16, 2:10 pm, Pete Nalda wrote:
>> First off, don't worry about what may be going on at the moment, with the
>> update. Mac OS is still so much easier in general to deal with than windows
>> and its various screen readers. This may not apply for everyone on here but
>> to me the choice was economical. Every time there was a new version of
>> windows, I'd have to purchase a new version ("upgrade") of ZoomText. I got
>> tired of playing that game. Every time I buy a new version of Mac OSX, I get
>> a new version of Zoom *and* VoiceOver :)
>>
>> On Jun 16, 2010, at 3:21 PM, Kolby Garrison wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> I am considering purchasing a mac book pro, and I wanted to know what
>>> satisfied mac users have to say about the pros and cons of mac and windows.
>>> I have been researching voiceover, and it sounds like a very stable screen
>>> reading solution. I like the portable preferences feature, and from what I
>>> have read thus far I do believe that a mac book pro will be purchased in my
>>> very near future. I will go to an apple store for some hands on time with a
>>> mac, but if anyone would share your mac experiences with me I would
>>> appreciate it. I know that there will be a learning curve going from the
>>> windows operating system to the mac operating system, but I am ready and
>>> willing to learn all that I can.
>>> Thank you,
>>> Kolby
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Re: Apple Releases iTunes V9.2
I'm very surprised that you had this issue with them! It's very unlike Apple not to go above and beyond to help their customers! I'm really sorry to hear you had such a negative experience, and, like you, I'm really surprised. I hope that you can get the iPhone pre-ordered somehow! Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 16, 2010, at 3:10 PM, Andy Lane wrote: > Hi there Olivia, No I agree, I haven't completely lost my faith in > Apple but I am disappointed. What this shows is that they didn't test > Safari with voiceover, if they had, they would have found the issues. > I tried to get the app from the app store to order the iphone 4 but it > isn't available in the UK. or at least it wasn't when I searched for > it. I wouldn't have had any problem what so ever however they still > haven't helped out after an hour on the phone tonight as my local > store ran out of pre order iphones while I was struggling with > Safari. If they had said oh sorry about the issues with safari we > will pop you on the pre order list as we can see you were making an > effort to order for 2 hours, that would have been very different. > Instead of being on this forum feeling let down by Apple I would be > here saying Wow guys guess what Apple did today. They screwed up but > they went a long way and made a huge effort to help out with the > shortcomings of the untested software. Do you think i'm being harsh > on them??? I'm not saying i'm not. I'm asking you. All I know is I > can't access a few websites I use a lot, I haven't got an iphone 4 pre > ordered and Apple didn't do anything to try to make things right for > me. I have spent almost £6000 with them in a year and I just worry > that if they didn't test safari before pushing it out this may be a > sign of things to come. Probably not the case, it is just not what I > hoped for from them. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: The Safari 5 Journey
I can't speak to FB on windows, either, haven't used jaws in three years, have no plans or desire to go back to windows! Have you tried iWork? It has similar functionality to MS office and works very well with VO. You can also read and work with documents created by MS office. If you need to work wiht someone using office, you can easily save documents in MS word, excell, and powerpoint formats. If you have any questions about any of this, feel free to email me off list. Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 16, 2010, at 2:18 PM, Chris Moore wrote: > I have a 18 month old MacBook which has the new track pad and I also have a 2 > and a half year old iMac and I have experienced the same problem with both > machines. was on the Apple site today and was trying to download a manual > for the iPod Nano and VoiceOver had a heart attack. > Before Safari 5 I was using iChat to chat to friends via Facebook (jabber) > and now it won't work, it connects ok but all I see is a series of numbers > when someone tries to chat to me. Very frustrating as I have only been a VO > user for 2 months as I lost my vision in March. I have been a mac user for > 10 years. > > Sadly many apps I used to use do not really work with VO such MS Office, MSN > Messenger keeps crashing and I am unable to use Logic Pro 9 and Reason. I > have emailed the makers of Reason and they tell me they have no plans to add > VO support to their products (money down the drain for me then), just hoping > Apple add support to Logic. > > All in all VO is wonderful and very easy to use, its the third party > developers that are the problem. I also wish Facebook was easier to use, I > am having to switch between Mac and Iphone to use it and VO is not a > pleasurable experience on either device. I can't say at this stage if fb is > any better on Windows with JAWS. I will be learning JAWS for work soon. > On 16 Jun 2010, at 22:00, Olivia Norman wrote: > >> I wonder the same thing. My macbook is a year old and has the current >> trackpad and specs. I am out of town, but am going to wait until I get home >> to update my iMac, which I got in December of 2009. It will be interesting >> to see whether they have the same problems. >> >> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs >> >> On Jun 16, 2010, at 1:54 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: >> >>> I'm really curious. I'm not experiencing any of these issues with Safari 5. >>> I use Safari all day to research the answers to queries in the translations >>> I do. I also use Audible.com and have no problems with that, either. >>> >>> I'm wondering if this depends on the hardware being used. I have a >>> 3-year-old MacBook which has a couple of major differences from the current >>> crop of Laptops. The volume is controlled by F4 and F5, and it just has a >>> normal trackpad, not the multi-touch variety that can be used with the >>> trackpad commander. Oh yes, and there's only one Option key. There is an >>> Enter key on the right where the new ones have the second Option key. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Anne >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: The Safari 5 Journey
What did you adjust to make safari work correctly? Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 16, 2010, at 2:37 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > I'm not having much in the way of those issues with safari 5, either, > especially since I adjusted the "moving cursor" option in the web area of the > VO utility. I have a Mac Mini, which I got in March. > > Teresa > On Jun 16, 2010, at 1:54 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: > >> I'm really curious. I'm not experiencing any of these issues with Safari 5. >> I use Safari all day to research the answers to queries in the translations >> I do. I also use Audible.com and have no problems with that, either. >> >> I'm wondering if this depends on the hardware being used. I have a >> 3-year-old MacBook which has a couple of major differences from the current >> crop of Laptops. The volume is controlled by F4 and F5, and it just has a >> normal trackpad, not the multi-touch variety that can be used with the >> trackpad commander. Oh yes, and there's only one Option key. There is an >> Enter key on the right where the new ones have the second Option key. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Apple Releases iTunes V9.2
I used the Apple store application to order my iPhone when the site didn't work. I'm a long way from losing faith in Apple, despite these bugs. I'm sure they will be fixed, and know that Apple is a great company committed to accessibility and diversity. Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 16, 2010, at 2:53 PM, Andy Lane wrote: > Just incase anyone is worried about installing Apple updates at the > moment, I took the bullet and its fine. I have only tried working > through libraries etc. and the store but haven't had any issues yet > unlike 10.6.4 and safari by the way. :( Apple need a kick up the > bottom at the moment. They don't seem to appriciate that they are > effectively disabling peoples pc's with these recent updates. I > couldn't order an iphone 4 yesterday because of the issues with safari > and I contacted them to ask if they could help and they didn't give a > damn. I am so disappointed in them right now. I feel bad complaining > as they have done so much for accessibility where no other company has > bothered but they need to be consistent otherwise people will lose > faith. > > H > > On Jun 16, 9:59 pm, Maccessibility wrote: >> Apple Releases iTunes V9.2 >> >> Today, Apple released version 9.2 of its popular iTunes multimedia and mobile >> application management software. The new version includes several new >> features >> and fixes, including: >> >> Sync with iPhone 4 to enjoy your favorite music, movies, TV shows, books and >> more on-the-go >> Sync and read books with iPhone or iPod touch with iOS 4 and iBooks 1.1 >> Organize and [...] >> >> You can read the rest of this news item >> at:http://www.lioncourt.com/2010/06/16/apple-releases-itunes-v9-2/ >> >> The Mac-cessibility Network >> "...it's all within our reach..."http://maccessibility.net > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Prospective Mac User
I just wanted to completely agree with everything you stated, Pete!
Olivia
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On Jun 16, 2010, at 2:10 PM, Pete Nalda wrote:
> First off, don't worry about what may be going on at the moment, with the
> update. Mac OS is still so much easier in general to deal with than windows
> and its various screen readers. This may not apply for everyone on here but
> to me the choice was economical. Every time there was a new version of
> windows, I'd have to purchase a new version ("upgrade") of ZoomText. I got
> tired of playing that game. Every time I buy a new version of Mac OSX, I get
> a new version of Zoom *and* VoiceOver :)
>
> On Jun 16, 2010, at 3:21 PM, Kolby Garrison wrote:
>
>> Hello Everyone,
>> I am considering purchasing a mac book pro, and I wanted to know what
>> satisfied mac users have to say about the pros and cons of mac and windows.
>> I have been researching voiceover, and it sounds like a very stable screen
>> reading solution. I like the portable preferences feature, and from what I
>> have read thus far I do believe that a mac book pro will be purchased in my
>> very near future. I will go to an apple store for some hands on time with a
>> mac, but if anyone would share your mac experiences with me I would
>> appreciate it. I know that there will be a learning curve going from the
>> windows operating system to the mac operating system, but I am ready and
>> willing to learn all that I can.
>> Thank you,
>> Kolby
>>
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Re: The Safari 5 Journey
I wonder the same thing. My macbook is a year old and has the current trackpad and specs. I am out of town, but am going to wait until I get home to update my iMac, which I got in December of 2009. It will be interesting to see whether they have the same problems. "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 16, 2010, at 1:54 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: > I'm really curious. I'm not experiencing any of these issues with Safari 5. I > use Safari all day to research the answers to queries in the translations I > do. I also use Audible.com and have no problems with that, either. > > I'm wondering if this depends on the hardware being used. I have a 3-year-old > MacBook which has a couple of major differences from the current crop of > Laptops. The volume is controlled by F4 and F5, and it just has a normal > trackpad, not the multi-touch variety that can be used with the trackpad > commander. Oh yes, and there's only one Option key. There is an Enter key on > the right where the new ones have the second Option key. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Prospective Mac User
I have successfully used macs for the past three years and would never consider going back to windows! Voiceover is stable, and works well for things like word processing, as well as other projects you might need for school. I successfully completed a year of graduate school with the mac, and had no issues. There is some what of a learning curve, but honestly I didn't find it very hard to switch from the windows OS to the mac. As I said in my previous message feel free to email or call and we can talk in more depth! Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 16, 2010, at 1:21 PM, Kolby Garrison wrote: > Hello Everyone, > I am considering purchasing a mac book pro, and I wanted to know what > satisfied mac users have to say about the pros and cons of mac and windows. I > have been researching voiceover, and it sounds like a very stable screen > reading solution. I like the portable preferences feature, and from what I > have read thus far I do believe that a mac book pro will be purchased in my > very near future. I will go to an apple store for some hands on time with a > mac, but if anyone would share your mac experiences with me I would > appreciate it. I know that there will be a learning curve going from the > windows operating system to the mac operating system, but I am ready and > willing to learn all that I can. > Thank you, > Kolby > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Prospective Mac User
Hi Kolby, Email me off list if you like, I'm always happy to help you out either via phone or email! Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 16, 2010, at 1:21 PM, Kolby Garrison wrote: > Hello Everyone, > I am considering purchasing a mac book pro, and I wanted to know what > satisfied mac users have to say about the pros and cons of mac and windows. I > have been researching voiceover, and it sounds like a very stable screen > reading solution. I like the portable preferences feature, and from what I > have read thus far I do believe that a mac book pro will be purchased in my > very near future. I will go to an apple store for some hands on time with a > mac, but if anyone would share your mac experiences with me I would > appreciate it. I know that there will be a learning curve going from the > windows operating system to the mac operating system, but I am ready and > willing to learn all that I can. > Thank you, > Kolby > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: can't order my iPhone because of VO bug
Now I understand more clearly. Thanks! Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 16, 2010, at 8:50 AM, Kimberly thurman wrote: > Webkit.org It is part of the framework of Safari and has nightly builds to > download. It's just an application you download. It is separate from Safari > and you can use either one you choose. Go to the website and I think you > will understand. > On Jun 16, 2010, at 11:13 AM, Olivia Norman wrote: > >> Would someone mind explaining where webkit is and how to get it? >> Thanks, Olivia >> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs >> >> On Jun 16, 2010, at 8:10 AM, Kimberly thurman wrote: >> >>> I have it and it doesn't help with the latest build. I believe it did >>> perform better than Safari most of the time before all these bugs were >>> introduced with Safari 5. >>> On Jun 15, 2010, at 11:49 PM, Olivia Norman wrote: >>> >>>> A what? What is webkit? >>>> Olivia >>>> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs >>>> >>>> On Jun 15, 2010, at 5:53 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote: >>>> >>>>> How about using a nightly build of webkit? >>>>> I've been using them for a while and their pretty stable. >>>>> On 2010-06-15, at 7:47 PM, Olivia Norman wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> So I tried to go to the apple site to order my iPhone, but had the same >>>>>> problem as with audible. VO constantly restarted and I couldn't get the >>>>>> job done. Has anyone had any luck navigating around the Apple site with >>>>>> out VO restarting? >>>>>> I don't understand why some are having issues, while others aren't, but >>>>>> if anyone's got any suggestions for how to resolve this, I'd appreciate >>>>>> them! >>>>>> >>>>>> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: latest version of Iwork?
Mine is 4.0.3 as well. I didn't see an iWork update, either. Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 16, 2010, at 9:37 AM, Mary Otten wrote: > Hi all, > > The announcement about the recent os update also mentioned an IWork update. I > have recently installed Iwork. Pages says it is version 4.0.3. I didn't see > any software update for Iwork, just for the os. What is the most current > version of Iwork? Is it possible that I have the most current, even though my > version was purchased a month or more ago? > > mary > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Long standing bug in Mail corrected, at least for me
Mine is like this, and my mail is working as expected. I'm having the iChat and safari issues others are reporting, though. "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 16, 2010, at 10:23 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > Hello, > I noticed that with this latest version of MacosX v10.6.4 a long standing bug > has finally been corrected, at least on my Imac. Previously, if you were on a > message list for a mailbox in Mail and pressed vo-j to go to the contents of > the mail, Vo stopped and didn't read the mail. Now after the latest update, > it seems that the automatic mail reading has returned again. Thanks Apple for > solving this. Can anyone else confirm that it is like this? > /Krister > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: The Safari 5 Journey
Hi Ginny, Many of us have experienced this on sites like apple.com and audible.com. It is very frustrating, and will hopefully be resolved soon! Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 16, 2010, at 11:16 AM, Ginny Owens wrote: > Hello. > I thought I’d successfully avoided downloading Safari 5 when I unchecked it > in Software Updates, but alas, it installed right along with 10.6.4. Guess I > should’ve figured this would happen. > At any rate, I’m currently fishing through the massive pile of Safari 5 > messages to see if I find that my issue has a work-around, but since I > haven’t seen it yet, I figured I’d go ahead and pose my question. If it’s in > the archives, then I’ll find it. > Any time I try to interact with the html content, VO speaks my start-up > welcome message. Doesn’t matter what web site I’m on. So I can’t navigate > to any sites. Lovely. > Is this a typical behavior of Safari 5? > Thanks much. > Ginny > > > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: can't order my iPhone because of VO bug
Would someone mind explaining where webkit is and how to get it? Thanks, Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 16, 2010, at 8:10 AM, Kimberly thurman wrote: > I have it and it doesn't help with the latest build. I believe it did > perform better than Safari most of the time before all these bugs were > introduced with Safari 5. > On Jun 15, 2010, at 11:49 PM, Olivia Norman wrote: > >> A what? What is webkit? >> Olivia >> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs >> >> On Jun 15, 2010, at 5:53 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote: >> >>> How about using a nightly build of webkit? >>> I've been using them for a while and their pretty stable. >>> On 2010-06-15, at 7:47 PM, Olivia Norman wrote: >>> >>>> So I tried to go to the apple site to order my iPhone, but had the same >>>> problem as with audible. VO constantly restarted and I couldn't get the >>>> job done. Has anyone had any luck navigating around the Apple site with >>>> out VO restarting? >>>> I don't understand why some are having issues, while others aren't, but if >>>> anyone's got any suggestions for how to resolve this, I'd appreciate them! >>>> >>>> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: can't order my iPhone because of VO bug
So how do I use it? How do I find it? "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 16, 2010, at 4:39 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote: > Webkit "is" the HTML engine that powers safari, chrome, opera and the ios > devices. > > On 2010-06-15, at 11:49 PM, Olivia Norman wrote: > >> A what? What is webkit? >> Olivia >> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs >> >> On Jun 15, 2010, at 5:53 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote: >> >>> How about using a nightly build of webkit? >>> I've been using them for a while and their pretty stable. >>> On 2010-06-15, at 7:47 PM, Olivia Norman wrote: >>> >>>> So I tried to go to the apple site to order my iPhone, but had the same >>>> problem as with audible. VO constantly restarted and I couldn't get the >>>> job done. Has anyone had any luck navigating around the Apple site with >>>> out VO restarting? >>>> I don't understand why some are having issues, while others aren't, but if >>>> anyone's got any suggestions for how to resolve this, I'd appreciate them! >>>> >>>> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: safari 5, another interesting bug.
I haven't noticed this one. Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 16, 2010, at 5:31 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Afternoonall, > > I upgraded to 10.6.4 last night, and it seems that this upgrade includes > Safari 5. So the first thing I did was go to my favourite soccer forum, and > lo and behold, (and I know you all will find this hard to believe) Safari 5 > doesn't work with the site. > > The major page content is contained in a table. In some columns of said > table, VO reports "unknown". However, when you interact with the text of the > cell, the contents of the cell are correctly announced. > > I have saved the page as a web archive and sent it to Accessibility with > instructions on how to recreate the bug. However I'm just curious whether > anyone else has encountered this? > > I think Apple is sadly learning from Microsoft, in that they are releasing > seriously buggy updates and getting the end-user to do the testing for them. > > Cheers > > Dónal > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Resolving strange Safari / OS issues -was- Re: can't order my iPhone because of VO bug
Thanks so much! I've repaired permissions and installed the update. Haven't done anything drastic like wipe my whole disk, but I might resort to that if it really does resolve these issues. How do I go about restoring from the time machine backup? Will go to my iPad and use the Apple store app there. Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 15, 2010, at 9:20 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: > Hey Olivia, I notice others have replied to you with the suggestion of the > Apple Store app. this is what I would have suggested as well. did it work? > > NOw a couple of more suggestions about your and others' general issues. > > • have you repaired permissions? -Just a little black magic to throw into the > mix. :) > > • have you downloaded / installed the combo update of 10.6.4? Sometimes this > can help with strange issues. > > • Lastly, you might consider backing everything up to a time machine backup, > wiping your drive, installing the 10.6.4 combo update and then letting your > new system be restored from your time machine backup. > > Admittedly this last step is a bit annoying but it can work wonders! :) > > Hope this helps and have a great night!… > > Smiles, > > Cara :) > --- > View my Online Portfolio at: > > http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn > > Follow me on Twitter! > > https://twitter.com/ModelCara > > On Jun 15, 2010, at 4:47 PM, Olivia Norman wrote: > > So I tried to go to the apple site to order my iPhone, but had the same > problem as with audible. VO constantly restarted and I couldn't get the job > done. Has anyone had any luck navigating around the Apple site with out VO > restarting? > I don't understand why some are having issues, while others aren't, but if > anyone's got any suggestions for how to resolve this, I'd appreciate them! > > "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: some more questions about streams and macs
Thanks for the info! That helps :) Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 15, 2010, at 10:03 PM, Frank Ventura wrote: > Simple answers: > 1) Just put the SD card into the stream and power it on and let the > stream take care of the rest. > 2) Yes, different folders on the card > 3) Yes, if you have finder preferences set to show volumes > Hth > Frank > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Olivia Norman > Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 1:26 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: some more questions about streams and macs > > Hi Everyone, > I'm looking at the Q and A's that someone sent earlier today (Thank you, > who ever sent these! :) I have a few more questions, as all of the > material I've seen works on the assumption that people are using > windows. > 1. How do you formatt the stream's card? The material discusses various > folders to copy certain kinds of files into. So, how do I take a blank > SD card and make it work with the stream's folders using a mac? > 2. Can I copy music files and put them on the same SD card as talking > books? > 3. I'm assuming that the SD card would simply show up in the finder and > content can just be coppied between devices that way. > I'm still considering whether or not to drop the money on the stream, or > if I would simply be fine with my iPod, iPad, etc, as they work better > with a mac. I would welcome people's thoughts and opinions! > Thanks! > Olivia > "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: can't order my iPhone because of VO bug
A what? What is webkit? Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 15, 2010, at 5:53 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote: > How about using a nightly build of webkit? > I've been using them for a while and their pretty stable. > On 2010-06-15, at 7:47 PM, Olivia Norman wrote: > >> So I tried to go to the apple site to order my iPhone, but had the same >> problem as with audible. VO constantly restarted and I couldn't get the job >> done. Has anyone had any luck navigating around the Apple site with out VO >> restarting? >> I don't understand why some are having issues, while others aren't, but if >> anyone's got any suggestions for how to resolve this, I'd appreciate them! >> >> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: safari 5 bug not fixed with new os release
I'll try this with the Apple site. I can't believe this broke Apple's own webpage! "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 15, 2010, at 4:48 PM, Barry Hadder wrote: > Mary, > > Everybody just started buzzing about this a few days ago, so I wouldn't be > too concerned at this point that it hasn't been fixed. I will be more > concerned after several months have gone by. > > Mean while, after vo restarts, shut it down, reload the page, and wait a few > seconds before restarting it. After I do that, everything is fine here. > > On Jun 15, 2010, at 6:11 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I'm sad to report that, at least on my system, the bug that causes crashing >> when you go to audible.com by typing in the site, and the bug that causes >> IChat to be unusable are not fixed with the new release of sl. I have to say >> that I am disappointed. this has to be an easy one for them to reproduce. so >> many of us have experienced and reported this bug. but no fix was >> forthcoming in the maintenance release. >> >> mary >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Is safari fixed?
Nope, not fixed here, either. Argh! "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 15, 2010, at 5:00 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote: > Not fixed here. I just downloaded and installed the updates myself. > On Jun 15, 2010, at 7:29 PM, Olivia Norman wrote: > >> I'm downloading the new software update now, but was curious as to whether >> anyone knew if the issues with safari are fixed with this release? I am >> still unable to go to audible or the Apple support pages with out VO >> crashing and restarting. >> Olivia >> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: mail is doing very strange after update 10.6.4
My mail seems fine. It's safari that's causing problems here. "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 15, 2010, at 5:08 PM, William Windels wrote: > hello all, > after installing 10.6.4, Mail has done something with the messages. > I don't know what exactly but all my mails seems to be moed to all deferent > folders. > I don't know what has happened but I don't like it and I have no idea what > has happened. > Any ideas are very welcome. > > best regards, > William > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: can't order my iPhone because of VO bug
Yes, I have an iPad. Good idea. Thanks :) "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 15, 2010, at 5:01 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > Hi Olivia, > I think you said you have an ipod or ipad. Get the apple store app and order > the IPhone that way. Not a fix for this problem, but you'll get your IPhone > ordered. > > Mary > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: safari 5 bug not fixed with new os release
I can't even get the Apple start page to load now that I've upgraded to 10.6.4 it just constantly relaunchwes VO. How does turning VO on and Off resolve the problem? I just get the same message of "voiceover on". At what point do you turn VO off and back on? This is certainly frustrating. To me, it's more frustrating than the audible site, Apple is a site I use often and must navigate successfully. Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 15, 2010, at 4:48 PM, Barry Hadder wrote: > Mary, > > Everybody just started buzzing about this a few days ago, so I wouldn't be > too concerned at this point that it hasn't been fixed. I will be more > concerned after several months have gone by. > > Mean while, after vo restarts, shut it down, reload the page, and wait a few > seconds before restarting it. After I do that, everything is fine here. > > On Jun 15, 2010, at 6:11 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I'm sad to report that, at least on my system, the bug that causes crashing >> when you go to audible.com by typing in the site, and the bug that causes >> IChat to be unusable are not fixed with the new release of sl. I have to say >> that I am disappointed. this has to be an easy one for them to reproduce. so >> many of us have experienced and reported this bug. but no fix was >> forthcoming in the maintenance release. >> >> mary >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
can't order my iPhone because of VO bug
So I tried to go to the apple site to order my iPhone, but had the same problem as with audible. VO constantly restarted and I couldn't get the job done. Has anyone had any luck navigating around the Apple site with out VO restarting? I don't understand why some are having issues, while others aren't, but if anyone's got any suggestions for how to resolve this, I'd appreciate them! "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: safari 5 bug not fixed with new os release
Same here. When I signed out, it worked fine, but when I attempted to sign in, no luck. Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 15, 2010, at 4:33 PM, Ronit Ovadia Mazzoni wrote: > It happens when you are signed in to audible with your audible account. For > me, it doesn't happen when I am not signed in. And yes, Olivia, it is still > broken as of the new update for today. > Ronit > > On Jun 15, 2010, at 4:16 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > >> Mary, >> >> I apologize for asking this considering this topic has been around for a >> bit; however, going to the Audible site is not sufficient for causing the >> crash condition is it? I just clicked on the link you provided and navigated >> about the site without any crashing. I wanted to try and reproduce the issue. >> >> On Jun 15, 2010, at 7:11 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I'm sad to report that, at least on my system, the bug that causes crashing >>> when you go to audible.com by typing in the site, and the bug that causes >>> IChat to be unusable are not fixed with the new release of sl. I have to >>> say that I am disappointed. this has to be an easy one for them to >>> reproduce. so many of us have experienced and reported this bug. but no fix >>> was forthcoming in the maintenance release. >>> >>> mary >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: safari 5 bug not fixed with new os release
The Apple support sites also had issues. I'm still downloading the new software so don't know if it's been fixed. If you google search audible it works? Very trange, how's taht different from typing in the address and going to it that way? "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 15, 2010, at 4:33 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > Hi Scott, > I didn't provide a link, but you are right that you can go to the audible > site and navigate around, until you sign in. So if you're not a member, or if > you access audible using google search and then clicking on their link, it > works. Or if you type in the address, then turn off vo and press enter, then > wait a bit, then turn vo on when you think the site has loaded, it is said to > work. I haven't tried that one. Because you can access via google, its not a > show stopper, I don't suppose. but there were other sites reported to have a > similar problem. aht eIChat thing is really a nuidance. > > Mary > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Is safari fixed?
I'm downloading the new software update now, but was curious as to whether anyone knew if the issues with safari are fixed with this release? I am still unable to go to audible or the Apple support pages with out VO crashing and restarting. Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Victor Stream
Thanks so much! :) I don't have access to windows at all, so I guess I'm out of luck as far as audible content goes? Everything else makes sense. "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 14, 2010, at 10:26 AM, Ana G wrote: > The nice thing about a Victor Stream is that you can carry your entire audio > library in one device. It plays specialized files from the NLS BARD site, > Bookshare, and RFB&D (never tried RFB&D personally). It also plays files from > commercial sources like audible, standard mp3 and wav, and now (with the > additional soft pack) iTunes. You can, moreover, listen to text file formats > like txt, rtf, and html. In theory, you can listen to contracted braille > files, but I've found that to be a little glitchy in 3.0 and 3.1. finally, > it's an easy-to-use voice recorder, not as good as, say, the Olympus, but the > quality of the recording is very nice and serves my own needs perfectly. My > own unit has lots of different file types on it, including music. > > Your other questions have been answered. When you insert a blank SD card into > the Stream, Victor places the folder structure on the card. You then insert > the card into your Mac's reader, and move files into the right folders: music > into the music folder, BARD and Bookshare books into the digital Talking > Books folder, rtf and html files into the text folder, etc. > > As far as Audible goes, the only thing you need Windows for is activating the > device. The Stream itself with SD card inserted needs to be connected to the > PC via USB cable for activation to take place. that's done once per SD card. > After that, the card is permanently activated unless it becomes corrupt and > needs to be formatted (i.e., erased), so you can forget all about Windows > until you need a new card. > > I think people are right about the maximum capacity SD being 16 gb, but > that's an awful lot of listening. I've got an 8 GB card, and I've got 40 BARD > books, 9 audible books, 12 book-length text files, and a couple of albums > worth of music on mine. > > Last, the Stream has some nice bookmarking features that make it useful for > work. Bookmarks can be points to jump to, audio blocks to listen to, and > brief voice recordings to refer to. that's all very handy when you're, say, > reading a manual because you can essentially takes notes and refer to them > quickly. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: is anyone else bothered by safari five>
Agreed. I can't count the number of times I had to restart my windows machines, because the screen reader, or some other program running in conjunction with it, crashed the whole machine. Most notably, this happened when I was writing a huge paper in college. I lost a good chunk of the paper. I got through a year of graduate school with out my mac crashing on me once. Having VO as a native part of the OS is a huge advantage, IMO, and I'd never go back to windows with out of date third party access solutions like Jaws! Olivia"Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 14, 2010, at 2:42 AM, Scott Howell wrote: > Chris, although this may be unacceptable, at least it restarts and does not > take the entire machine down, which has been my experience with windows-based > screen readers. Even though Apple Accessibility may not have responded, they > do take these messages seriously. I cannot say why you did not receive a > response, but generally they do respond. I initially thought I had some > issues with Safari 5, but I have to do some more testing since most sites I > use regularly are behaving fine. And in Apple's defense, they may not have > encountered any problems or did not have the opportunity to test with every > possible site. SO, continue to provide feedback, you are not being ignored. > > On Jun 13, 2010, at 9:17 PM, Chris Westbrook wrote: > >> No, I'm referring to the audible.com bug and the ichat bug. Even if going >> to audible from a google search works, that shouldn't be necessary, and a >> browser upgrade shouldn't effect an unrelated chat application. There is no >> way a webpage or a chat application should randomly restart your screen >> reader. That to me is unacceptable. >> On Jun 13, 2010, at 9:13 PM, louie wrote: >> >>> Works ok here. If you are coming from jaws I can understand why you are >>> having troubles. >>> >>> On Jun 13, 2010, at 6:02 PM, Chris Westbrook wrote: >>> I am a new mac user, and while I really enjoy my mac, I am slightly concerned about Apple's release of Safari five with apparently little regard to accessibility. I guess I took this somewhat for granted, since Microsoft generally makes sure that the major assistive technology vendors are working with their browsers before release. I am also bothered, though not particularly surprised, by apple's apparent lack of a statement of any kind on this issue. I sent a message to accessibility on the ichat bug, for example, and got no response, not even a canned one. Does this not concern anyone else? I realize Apple is a secretive company, but I would think the least they could do was acknowledge the problem and say they are working on it. For all we know they aren't even working on it. /am I missing something here? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> louie >>> louiem...@wavecable.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: some more questions about streams and macs
Wonderful! Thank you for the help! :) "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 14, 2010, at 2:47 AM, Chris G wrote: > Answers below. > > > > On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 22:26:06 -0700 > Olivia Norman wrote: > >> Hi Everyone, >> I'm looking at the Q and A's that someone sent earlier today (Thank you, who >> ever sent these! :) I have a few more questions, as all of the material I've >> seen works on the assumption that people are using windows. >> 1. How do you formatt the stream's card? The material discusses various >> folders to copy certain kinds of files into. So, how do I take a blank SD >> card and make it work with the stream's folders using a mac? > > > You insert the card into the stream and it creates the folders for you. > >> > 2. Can I copy music files and put them on the same SD card as talking > books? > > > Yes, you put them in the $VRMusic folder. >> 3. I'm assuming that the SD card would simply show up in the finder and >> content can just be coppied between devices that way. > > This is correct. You would see the streams folders through the finder. > > >> I'm still considering whether or not to drop the money on the stream, or if >> I would simply be fine with my iPod, iPad, etc, as they work better with a >> mac. I would welcome people's thoughts and opinions! >> Thanks! >> Olivia >> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > Chris G > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: some more questions about streams and macs
This is great information. Is there a daisy app for iPad or iPhone? Where can I get one for the mac? I have a 32 gig iPad and a 16 gig iPhone. Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 14, 2010, at 5:52 AM, Dave Taylor wrote: > I > > As a stream user I would say this. Remember you will also have to pay for a > storage card. That being the case, if I didn't have one I would regard any > Apple device with 16 GB, or even better 32 or the incredible 64 GB of > storage as a better bet. Synchronising will be much easier and I can't think > of anything the stream can do that Apples can't provided you have a Daisy > player app. The media player control knocks spots of anything in any gadget > apart from the Stream, and in some ways is much better. > > Cheers > Dave > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris G > Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 10:47 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: some more questions about streams and macs > > Answers below. > > > > On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 22:26:06 -0700 > Olivia Norman wrote: > >> Hi Everyone, >> I'm looking at the Q and A's that someone sent earlier today (Thank you, > who ever sent these! :) I have a few more questions, as all of the material > I've seen works on the assumption that people are using windows. >> 1. How do you formatt the stream's card? The material discusses various > folders to copy certain kinds of files into. So, how do I take a blank SD > card and make it work with the stream's folders using a mac? > > > You insert the card into the stream and it creates the folders for you. > >> > 2. Can I copy music files and put them on the same SD card as talking > books? > > > Yes, you put them in the $VRMusic folder. >> 3. I'm assuming that the SD card would simply show up in the finder and > content can just be coppied between devices that way. > > This is correct. You would see the streams folders through the finder. > > >> I'm still considering whether or not to drop the money on the stream, or > if I would simply be fine with my iPod, iPad, etc, as they work better with > a mac. I would welcome people's thoughts and opinions! >> Thanks! >> Olivia >> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > Chris G > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: some more questions about streams and macs
This is very helpful. Thanks! :) Now, I'm just trying to figure out if this device is worth the money. I've heard both mac and PC users who are blind say that it's the best money they spent on an AT product, so I'm trying to figure out if I really need it given the great Apple stuff I have. "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 14, 2010, at 4:42 AM, Allison Manzino wrote: > Hi Olivia, > > I think I can help you. I say think very lightly. I used to be a Stream user > who used Windows, and obviously now have switched to the Mac. Okay let me see > if I remember the first question, to format the SD card, you do it on the > Stream directly. This is accomplished by pressing the 7 key on the numpad a > few times till you hear format SD card. It will ask you to confirm by > pressing the pound key. Once you press it, it will say formatting SD card and > report back when the format is complete. Once that is done, you will have > folders like VR audible, VR music etc. Yes, you can place talking books on > the same card as music. You just place the talking books in to the VR DTB > folder. I'm switching from the stream to the Ipod on my Iphone, I think the > largest card the Stream can handle is a 16GB but I could be wrong. It is much > faster if you were to get a Stream to copy content via the card reader than > the Stream's USB port itself. The Stream shows up on the desktop once you > insert the SD card in to a card reader. You just hit command O to open like > normal and all the folders are there. I hope this has helped you. The only > thing I'm unsure about is the Audible authorization. That might have to be > done on a Windows machine, since the Audible version on the Mac assumes you > are using Itunes on an Ipod. Well, I hope I have helped. Have a wonderful > day. Thank you for your help on the Iphone, it is much appreciated. > > Allison > > On Jun 14, 2010, at 1:26 AM, Olivia Norman wrote: > >> Hi Everyone, >> I'm looking at the Q and A's that someone sent earlier today (Thank you, who >> ever sent these! :) I have a few more questions, as all of the material I've >> seen works on the assumption that people are using windows. >> 1. How do you formatt the stream's card? The material discusses various >> folders to copy certain kinds of files into. So, how do I take a blank SD >> card and make it work with the stream's folders using a mac? >> 2. Can I copy music files and put them on the same SD card as talking books? >> 3. I'm assuming that the SD card would simply show up in the finder and >> content can just be coppied between devices that way. >> I'm still considering whether or not to drop the money on the stream, or if >> I would simply be fine with my iPod, iPad, etc, as they work better with a >> mac. I would welcome people's thoughts and opinions! >> Thanks! >> Olivia >> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
some more questions about streams and macs
Hi Everyone, I'm looking at the Q and A's that someone sent earlier today (Thank you, who ever sent these! :) I have a few more questions, as all of the material I've seen works on the assumption that people are using windows. 1. How do you formatt the stream's card? The material discusses various folders to copy certain kinds of files into. So, how do I take a blank SD card and make it work with the stream's folders using a mac? 2. Can I copy music files and put them on the same SD card as talking books? 3. I'm assuming that the SD card would simply show up in the finder and content can just be coppied between devices that way. I'm still considering whether or not to drop the money on the stream, or if I would simply be fine with my iPod, iPad, etc, as they work better with a mac. I would welcome people's thoughts and opinions! Thanks! Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Audible books, can I listen to them/transfer them?
I'm kind of wondering the same thing. I've got an iPad, and am just wondering if the stream's worth the investment. I'm concerned about it's lack of compatibility with macs, for things like authorizing audible. So, what can the stream do taht an iPad or iPod can't besides playing daisy books? Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 13, 2010, at 9:06 PM, Pete Nalda wrote: > I hate to say this, and it is only my opinion, but I got a chance to use and > play with a VRstream back in November of this last year. While it offers > easy accessibility for Blind users, I too found I was concerned about full > compatibility to my Macbook Pro. I thought about what the device can do, and > think that, again, an Ipod touch could do just as much, if not more. That > was even before eBooks were available for it. YMMV, and now, btw I'm > actually thinking about the iPad. > > On Jun 13, 2010, at 10:43 PM, Olivia Norman wrote: > >> Thanks so much! I don't own a PC, nor do my parents, does anyone have any >> suggestions as to how I might get the computer authorized? >> Olivia >> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs >> >> On Jun 13, 2010, at 8:30 PM, Dan Roy wrote: >> >>> Yes, use a card reader with the SD card and you will be much better off. >>> >>> Once you have the Victor authorized for audible content, you will simply be >>> able to copy the audible book from your mac over to the SD card. This will >>> be a simple cut and paste from finder. the problem is authorizing the >>> stream to play the audible content. this, it appears can only be done from >>> windows, because, Itunes doesn't support the stream as a device. >>> >>> So, if you can get the stream authorized for audible, you should be good to >>> go. I hope this helps, right now, the authorization is a problem for me as >>> well. I had it originally, but, somehow I lost the authorization on the >>> stream. I guess I will have to use my wife's PC to get it authorized again. >>> >>> >>> On Jun 13, 2010, at 9:46 PM, Olivia Norman wrote: >>> >>>> It looks like all the VR stream FAQ's are based on a windows platform and >>>> having access to the windows-based audible software. Is there a way to >>>> transfer audible content or really work with the stream with out windows? >>>> I'm going to buy one tomorrow, but wanted to check before I made the final >>>> jump. I'm assuming that working off the SD card is my best bet, as the >>>> device itself doesn't work well with a mac? >>>> Olivia >>>> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) > Pete Nalda > http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda > http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Audible books, can I listen to them/transfer them?
Thanks so much! I don't own a PC, nor do my parents, does anyone have any suggestions as to how I might get the computer authorized? Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 13, 2010, at 8:30 PM, Dan Roy wrote: > Yes, use a card reader with the SD card and you will be much better off. > > Once you have the Victor authorized for audible content, you will simply be > able to copy the audible book from your mac over to the SD card. This will > be a simple cut and paste from finder. the problem is authorizing the stream > to play the audible content. this, it appears can only be done from windows, > because, Itunes doesn't support the stream as a device. > > So, if you can get the stream authorized for audible, you should be good to > go. I hope this helps, right now, the authorization is a problem for me as > well. I had it originally, but, somehow I lost the authorization on the > stream. I guess I will have to use my wife's PC to get it authorized again. > > > On Jun 13, 2010, at 9:46 PM, Olivia Norman wrote: > >> It looks like all the VR stream FAQ's are based on a windows platform and >> having access to the windows-based audible software. Is there a way to >> transfer audible content or really work with the stream with out windows? >> I'm going to buy one tomorrow, but wanted to check before I made the final >> jump. I'm assuming that working off the SD card is my best bet, as the >> device itself doesn't work well with a mac? >> Olivia >> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Audible books, can I listen to them/transfer them?
It looks like all the VR stream FAQ's are based on a windows platform and having access to the windows-based audible software. Is there a way to transfer audible content or really work with the stream with out windows? I'm going to buy one tomorrow, but wanted to check before I made the final jump. I'm assuming that working off the SD card is my best bet, as the device itself doesn't work well with a mac? Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Authorizing Audible to Play on Victor Stream Using a Mac
Uh, what if one doesn't have access to windows? Is there any way to do this with a mac or the device itself? I don't have any windows machines anywhere, so I guess I'm out of luck, right? Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 13, 2010, at 7:33 PM, Dan Roy wrote: > I have no problems connecting the victor, but, it's much easier and faster to > use a card reader anyway. This is true on both the Mac and the PC. However, > authorizing the stream for audible, well, it seems as though it has to be > done in windows. > > > On Jun 13, 2010, at 7:32 PM, Ana G wrote: > >> You might have to have a windows user help you get your audible >> authorization up and running. I read this at the FAQ link below. the page >> includes instructions on how to authorize in Windows, using audible Manager. >> >> Q. Can the Stream connect to a MAC computer? >> A. At present, HumanWare does not provide technical support for MAC >> connectivity. However, we are aware that many MAC users are successfully >> connecting the Stream to their MAC computer. If the Stream does not connect >> then an alternative is to use a USB card reader. HumanWare is working with >> Apple to improve MAC connectivity. >> >> >> http://www.aisquared.com/product_spotlight/more/victor_reader_stream_faq >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: is anyone else bothered by safari five>
I got a response, and have forwarded my crash logs for review. Microsoft might work with third party venders, but they do nothing about built in accessibility themselves, as far as I can tell. Just my two cents, but even though I've had a few issues with safari five, I'd never go back to Jaws and Windows, which, to my mind, had many more accessibility problems. I love Apple, and I'm so glad I switched despite a couple of bugs. "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 13, 2010, at 6:41 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > Lots of people have had issues with Safari 5. It has exactly nothing to do > with whether one has used jaws or not. There are issues on lots of macs > running this app, both in the browser and with the IChat app. Lots of us have > written to apple accessibility, and I seem to recall that some have received > responses. I have not. I wrote specifically about Ichat, because that problem > seemed to have received less publicity than the general issues with the app > and websites. Hopefully, there is a fix in the works. > > mary > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Safari 5
How did you resolve the issue? Glad to hear Apple Support was helpful. Once you're transfered to a senior person, they're great. "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 12, 2010, at 11:55 PM, Tammy Abreu-Butron.com wrote: > Yes, I had a terrible time > Resolving this issue, finally I gave trying the suggestion on the boards and > called applesupport. After two fix attempts failed I was transferred to a > senior support rep, we spent another 45 minutes until we found the culprit. > It's working fine now, but I winder how much this would have cost me solve if > my AppleCare expired. I only have two months left on my three contract. > > Tammy Abreu-Butron > www.tammybutron.com > > On Jun 12, 2010, at 6:42 AM, Olivia Norman wrote: > >> I really don't understand why some are having issues and others aren't? Is >> everyone experiencing issues here in the US? >> I'm just trying to find a common pattern, I guess :) >> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs >> >> On Jun 12, 2010, at 2:58 AM, Søren Jensen wrote: >> >>> Hi. >>> >>> I'm running Safari 5 here without any issues as well. I can navigate on >>> audible.com without any issues. >>> I can send my Voiceover settings to someone who have issues to see if it >>> makes a difference. >>> Best regards >>> Søren Jensen >>> Mail & MSN: >>> s...@coolfortheblind.dk >>> Website: >>> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ >>> >>> Den Jun 11, 2010 kl. 11:04 PM skrev louie: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> I have read all comments about Safari 5. I have tried all of the web sites >>>> that you all say that cause you trouble. I am running Leopard and no >>>> trouble here. I wonder why? >>>> >>>> >>>> louie >>>> louiem...@wavecable.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Safari 5
I really don't understand why some are having issues and others aren't? Is everyone experiencing issues here in the US? I'm just trying to find a common pattern, I guess :) "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 12, 2010, at 2:58 AM, Søren Jensen wrote: > Hi. > > I'm running Safari 5 here without any issues as well. I can navigate on > audible.com without any issues. > I can send my Voiceover settings to someone who have issues to see if it > makes a difference. > Best regards > Søren Jensen > Mail & MSN: > s...@coolfortheblind.dk > Website: > http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ > > Den Jun 11, 2010 kl. 11:04 PM skrev louie: > >> Hi all, >> I have read all comments about Safari 5. I have tried all of the web sites >> that you all say that cause you trouble. I am running Leopard and no trouble >> here. I wonder why? >> >> >> louie >> louiem...@wavecable.com >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Safari 5
I wonder whether running leopard makes a difference? "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 11, 2010, at 2:04 PM, louie wrote: > Hi all, > I have read all comments about Safari 5. I have tried all of the web sites > that you all say that cause you trouble. I am running Leopard and no trouble > here. I wonder why? > > > louie > louiem...@wavecable.com > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Facebook and Safari 5?
I can't get FB to work with safari five, but then again, I didn't like it much with safari four, either. I found the main page to be very cluttered, and not very accessible. How did you have success navigating it, eric? Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 10, 2010, at 6:49 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: > Hi, I've not had any problems with fb under safari four. If anything the > experience should be richer under safari 5, but I too have been scared off by > the problems. I'm hoping they come out with a 5.1 or 5.01 sometime in the > next few weeks that solves some issues. > > By the way, how do the nightly builds of webkit stack up against safari 5? > > Thanks. > > Erik Burggraaf > User support consultant, > Website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com > Toll-free: 888-255-5194 > > On 2010-06-10, at 10:01 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I've held off up on upgrading to Safari 5 because of all the problems people >> seem to be having. But I'm wondering if anyone has tried using Facebook? >> I'm getting really tired of having to switch to my PC every time I want to >> post to Facebook. >> Thanks, >> Donna >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Possible workaround to Safari5 Problems
I tried my creditcard site, same issue. Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 9, 2010, at 3:58 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > I get the Safair thing with VO restarting continuously on my bank site. > Unfortunately, it doesn't crop up until I go to view my bank account > transaction history. Last I tried Webkit, same thing. > -- > Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA > Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY > > > > On Jun 9, 2010, at 6:28 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > >> Turning off java script in the developer menu seems to have solved the >> problem I was having on the audible site. ichat is still messed up, but at >> least it sbetter than it was. Hoping for a fix soon. >> >> mary >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Possible workaround to Safari5 Problems
Nope, turning off java didn't resolve the iChat issue. Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 9, 2010, at 3:55 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > Hi Olivia, > Did turning off java fix ichat for you as well? Here id did nothing useful, > which I suppose I wouldn't expect it to; I don't guess java script is > involved with ichat, is it? anyway, still looking forward to a fix, but half > a loaf beats none. > > mary > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Possible workaround to Safari5 Problems
Hi Mary and others, Turning off java seems to have resolved this for me as well. Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 9, 2010, at 3:28 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > Turning off java script in the developer menu seems to have solved the > problem I was having on the audible site. ichat is still messed up, but at > least it sbetter than it was. Hoping for a fix soon. > > mary > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: safari 5 again
I had the same experience, Mary. Nothing I'm doing appears to resolve it. Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 9, 2010, at 3:05 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > I'm sorry to report that downloading the safari 5 from the apple site did > nothing for my problems here. I repaired permissions after installing and > loaded the audible site, which caused the restart problem just as it has all > along. I do hope they get this fixed soon. > > mary > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Possible workaround to Safari5 Problems
Thanks for the tip. I've emailed and asked if they want the files sent over. Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 9, 2010, at 7:18 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Hi Olivia, > > I don't actually know for certain whether they would be of use, I just know > from my own development experience it's the first place I look for anomalies. > > Cheers > > Dónal > On 9 Jun 2010, at 15:03, Olivia Norman wrote: > >> I can certainly zip up my log files and send them on over to accessibility. >> I wouldn't even know what to look for in terms of odd entries, though. >> >> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs >> >> On Jun 9, 2010, at 6:56 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: >> >>> HI, >>> >>> I haven't updated yet, and based on the feedback from the list I don't plan >>> to. However, for those of you who experiencing problems, are there any >>> odd/unusual entries in the system logs, or other log files? >>> >>> If so, this content might be very useful to Apple in their attempts to >>> debug, recreate and (hopefully) solve the issue. >>> >>> The fact that so many of you are experiencing the same issue means it >>> should be relatively straightforward to reproduce. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Dónal >>> On 9 Jun 2010, at 14:50, Olivia Norman wrote: >>> >>>> Yes, it has been reported to accessibility. I'm experiencing the same >>>> issues both with audible and the Apple support sites, of all pages. >>>> Olivia >>>> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs >>>> >>>> On Jun 9, 2010, at 2:05 AM, Doug Lawlor wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hello, I have done what you described below and VO is still restarting >>>>> here when I access Audible's site. I honestly don't think a web site >>>>> should be restarting your screen reader. Has this been reported to Apple >>>>> Accessibility? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Doug >>>>> >>>>> On 2010-06-09, at 1:42 AM, Barry Hadder wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Ok everybody, >>>>>> >>>>>> This seems to work, but it's just a work-around as doing this can still >>>>>> cause problems in some situations. Check the "Disable Run away Java >>>>>> script Timer" option in the develop menu. You can turn on the develop >>>>>> menu in the advanced tab of Safari preferences. >>>>>> >>>>>> This seems to fix the problem and leaves the javascript functionality in >>>>>> tact. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- &
Re: Possible workaround to Safari5 Problems
I can certainly zip up my log files and send them on over to accessibility. I wouldn't even know what to look for in terms of odd entries, though. "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 9, 2010, at 6:56 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: > HI, > > I haven't updated yet, and based on the feedback from the list I don't plan > to. However, for those of you who experiencing problems, are there any > odd/unusual entries in the system logs, or other log files? > > If so, this content might be very useful to Apple in their attempts to debug, > recreate and (hopefully) solve the issue. > > The fact that so many of you are experiencing the same issue means it should > be relatively straightforward to reproduce. > > Cheers > > Dónal > On 9 Jun 2010, at 14:50, Olivia Norman wrote: > >> Yes, it has been reported to accessibility. I'm experiencing the same >> issues both with audible and the Apple support sites, of all pages. >> Olivia >> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs >> >> On Jun 9, 2010, at 2:05 AM, Doug Lawlor wrote: >> >>> >>> Hello, I have done what you described below and VO is still restarting here >>> when I access Audible's site. I honestly don't think a web site should be >>> restarting your screen reader. Has this been reported to Apple >>> Accessibility? >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Doug >>> >>> On 2010-06-09, at 1:42 AM, Barry Hadder wrote: >>> >>>> Ok everybody, >>>> >>>> This seems to work, but it's just a work-around as doing this can still >>>> cause problems in some situations. Check the "Disable Run away Java >>>> script Timer" option in the develop menu. You can turn on the develop >>>> menu in the advanced tab of Safari preferences. >>>> >>>> This seems to fix the problem and leaves the javascript functionality in >>>> tact. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Possible workaround to Safari5 Problems
Yes, it has been reported to accessibility. I'm experiencing the same issues both with audible and the Apple support sites, of all pages. Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 9, 2010, at 2:05 AM, Doug Lawlor wrote: > > Hello, I have done what you described below and VO is still restarting here > when I access Audible's site. I honestly don't think a web site should be > restarting your screen reader. Has this been reported to Apple Accessibility? > > > Thanks, > > Doug > > On 2010-06-09, at 1:42 AM, Barry Hadder wrote: > >> Ok everybody, >> >> This seems to work, but it's just a work-around as doing this can still >> cause problems in some situations. Check the "Disable Run away Java script >> Timer" option in the develop menu. You can turn on the develop menu in the >> advanced tab of Safari preferences. >> >> This seems to fix the problem and leaves the javascript functionality in >> tact. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Safari 5 and Audible.com
Yes, this is a new problem with safari five. I was on the audible site yeterday with safari four and experienced no issues. Now, with five, I can't get the site to work at all. It just crashes VO when ever I sign in. iChat is not working for me, either. "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 8, 2010, at 8:44 PM, Michael Huckabay wrote: > Yep both browsers dus this when actsessing the audible acount. 4 Didn't seam > to do this so they must of broke something. > On 2010-06-08, at 10:21 PM, Dan Roy wrote: > >> I have already reported this to accessibil...@apple.com. >> >> I am having the same problem with Audible as several others have already >> reported. However, in my case, using webkit is no different than using >> Safari. I don't know when this problem began, because, I haven't ben on the >> audible site in quite some time now. However, I am assuming this is a new >> problem with Safari 5. I wonder when webkit inherited it? I will try >> downloading the latest nightly build, but, my hopes aren't high. hopefully, >> this doesn't happen on other sites as well. >> >> yes, I did resets on both Safari and Webkit and it did absolutely nothing >> for me. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Another Bad Page with Safari5
All the Apple support sites are like this. Accessibility is aware of the issue. Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 8, 2010, at 8:46 PM, Barry Hadder wrote: > http://www.apple.com/support/itunes/ > > I've written accessibility. > > I'm starting to feel very disappointed. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Possible workaround to Safari5 Problems
Thanks, Will try this. Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 8, 2010, at 9:12 PM, Barry Hadder wrote: > Ok everybody, > > This seems to work, but it's just a work-around as doing this can still cause > problems in some situations. Check the "Disable Run away Java script Timer" > option in the develop menu. You can turn on the develop menu in the advanced > tab of Safari preferences. > > This seems to fix the problem and leaves the javascript functionality in tact. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: safari reader?
I've done this, no luck :( "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 8, 2010, at 10:32 AM, Darcy Burnard wrote: > Hi guys. I'm not having trouble with safari 5 and VO, so can't say for sure > that this will work, but one thing I'd suggest trying is to reset safari. > You can do this from the safari menu on the menu bar. > It will give you a dialog where you can select which things to clear. You > may not want to clear cookies if you use them to remember passwords and such, > but it's probably safe to clear everything else. > I have seen reset safari fix things before, so it's certainly worth a try. > Darcy > > On 2010-06-08, at 1:27 AM, May McDonald wrote: > >> Smile, nope you're definitely not the only one. >> >> May >> On 2010-06-07, at 10:10 PM, Olivia Norman wrote: >> >>> I'm glad I'm not the only one experiencing issues! >>> Olivia >>> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs >>> >>> On Jun 7, 2010, at 9:53 PM, May McDonald wrote: >>> >>>> Ever since I upgrade to Safari 5 I get the Safari busy a lot now. It's >>>> rather annoying. >>>> >>>> May >>>> On 2010-06-07, at 9:50 PM, Olivia Norman wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Everyone, >>>>> I updated to Safari 5, but since the update, voiceover seems to keep >>>>> relaunching when I try and find out about Safari reader from the Apple >>>>> support site. It keeps playing the OS 10 greeting. >>>>> So I have a few questions: >>>>> 1. Is anyone else experiencing this issue? If so, does anyone know how I >>>>> might resolve it? >>>>> 2. What's Safari reader and how do I find out about and download it since >>>>> I can't seem to search the support pages with out my computer crashing >>>>> and voiceover constantly relaunching. >>>>> I'd love any suggestions! >>>>> Thanks, Olivia >>>>> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Audible.com site with safari 5
How do I reset web kit? I've reset safari, repaired permissions, emptied cash, and deleted and recreated my preferences, all to no avail. Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 8, 2010, at 11:44 AM, Kimberly thurman wrote: > I've experienced this behavior several times today in Safari 5 and Web Kit. > I've repaired disk permissions, reset Safari and Web Kit and still have > issues. > On Jun 8, 2010, at 2:34 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> Yes, >> >> I'm getting the same behavior. Voiceover resets itself when you try to >> interact with the html content. Very, very, annoying >> On Jun 8, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Peggy Fleischer wrote: >> >>> I am finding that safari crashes with the audible web site. Voiceover >>> keeps restarting. Has anyone else tried audible? >>> >>> >>> Peggy Fleischer >>> peggyfleisc...@bellsouth.net >>> >>> Jude 1:24 Now to Him who is able to keep you from stumbling, And to >>> present you >>> faultless Before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy, >>> 1:25 To God our Savior, Who alone is wise, Be glory and majesty, Dominion >>> and power, Both now and forever. Amen. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Audible.com site with safari 5
Here's a kind of work around. If you email yourself the link and launch the page that way, it seems to work. I am not sure why this is, though. Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 8, 2010, at 11:34 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Yes, > > I'm getting the same behavior. Voiceover resets itself when you try to > interact with the html content. Very, very, annoying > On Jun 8, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Peggy Fleischer wrote: > >> I am finding that safari crashes with the audible web site. Voiceover keeps >> restarting. Has anyone else tried audible? >> >> >> Peggy Fleischer >> peggyfleisc...@bellsouth.net >> >> Jude 1:24 Now to Him who is able to keep you from stumbling, And to present >> you >> faultless Before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy, >> 1:25 To God our Savior, Who alone is wise, Be glory and majesty, Dominion >> and power, Both now and forever. Amen. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Audible.com site with safari 5
Yes, same here. I have emailed accessibility about this, and urge others to do so. They're aware of it and working on a fix. Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 8, 2010, at 11:44 AM, Kimberly thurman wrote: > I've experienced this behavior several times today in Safari 5 and Web Kit. > I've repaired disk permissions, reset Safari and Web Kit and still have > issues. > On Jun 8, 2010, at 2:34 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> Yes, >> >> I'm getting the same behavior. Voiceover resets itself when you try to >> interact with the html content. Very, very, annoying >> On Jun 8, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Peggy Fleischer wrote: >> >>> I am finding that safari crashes with the audible web site. Voiceover >>> keeps restarting. Has anyone else tried audible? >>> >>> >>> Peggy Fleischer >>> peggyfleisc...@bellsouth.net >>> >>> Jude 1:24 Now to Him who is able to keep you from stumbling, And to >>> present you >>> faultless Before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy, >>> 1:25 To God our Savior, Who alone is wise, Be glory and majesty, Dominion >>> and power, Both now and forever. Amen. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VO crashing when I launch keynote!
Yes. I've also repaired my permissions. Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 8, 2010, at 7:20 AM, Marshall Scott wrote: > Hi Olivia, > Have you tried clearing the cache and reseting Safari in the Safari menu? > How about turning off the pop-up blocker? > Marshall > resetti > On Jun 8, 2010, at 8:02 AM, Olivia Norman wrote: > >> Here's one of the links I've experienced the issue where VO constantly >> crashes and instead of interacting with the HTML content, launches the >> system greeting. I have repaired my permissions and restarted, with no >> luck. I've also reset my preferences. Any suggestions? >> http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/1006ad9g4hjk/event/index.html >> Any suggestions? I actually really need to catch the keynote. >> Thanks, Olivia >> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
VO crashing when I launch keynote!
Here's one of the links I've experienced the issue where VO constantly crashes and instead of interacting with the HTML content, launches the system greeting. I have repaired my permissions and restarted, with no luck. I've also reset my preferences. Any suggestions? http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/1006ad9g4hjk/event/index.html Any suggestions? I actually really need to catch the keynote. Thanks, Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Victor Reader Softpak
Interesting. No windows machines in this establishment, so I'll have to hope there's some kind of safari work around! Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 8, 2010, at 3:17 AM, Allison Manzino wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I had promised to report back on the success or failure of the Softpak > recently announced and put out by HumanWare. Well, I have purchased it and > here are my findings so far. Keep in mind that I haven't had it more than a > day but even getting to that point was a challenge. Hopefully this message > will help anyone who is curious about the pak and whether it works with > Audible content downloaded via Itunes. > > The first thing I noticed when I tried to update is that Safari would get to > the point on HumanWare's website where all the products were listed and > crash. I'd go on to the homepage, hit VO U to bring up the links list, > activate the shop link and as I'd scroll down, Safari would just close. No > matter how many times I repeated this process Safari would do the same thing. > I ended up ordering the Pak on my Windows machine through Mozila. Once > installed, the Pak appears to work with books downloaded via Itunes. I > haven't had the chance to test it out with MP4s purchased from the Itunes > store however. I wonder if this bugoon HumanWare's website will be corrected > with the release of Safari 5. I hope this has been of some help to the list. > Have a wonderful day! > > Allison > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: safari reader
Hi! I found it after much looking around and actually needed help from a friend. It's in the view menu or you can press command shift R to get it that way when you're on a page with an article. HTH, Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 8, 2010, at 3:28 AM, chad baker wrote: > Hi where is the safari reader located? > I looked under each drop down could not find it. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: safari reader?
I have also repaired permissions and am about to restart my machine. Let's see if this solves the problem. Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 7, 2010, at 11:05 PM, Blindinnovator. wrote: > For what it's worth, I'm experiencing the same issues. I repaired permissions > first thing and restarted. > > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jun 7, 2010, at 11:05 PM, Olivia Norman wrote: > >> Thanks. Perhaps that will work. I have no idea why safari five is causing >> VO to go crazy on my macbook. It just constantly relaunches the greeting >> instead of interacting with the HTML content. >> Any thoughts on how I can get this behavior to stop? >> >> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs >> >> On Jun 7, 2010, at 9:57 PM, louie wrote: >> >>> Go to the help menu of Safari click on help and you will find a section on >>> the reader. >>> >>> On Jun 7, 2010, at 9:50 PM, Olivia Norman wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Everyone, >>>> I updated to Safari 5, but since the update, voiceover seems to keep >>>> relaunching when I try and find out about Safari reader from the Apple >>>> support site. It keeps playing the OS 10 greeting. >>>> So I have a few questions: >>>> 1. Is anyone else experiencing this issue? If so, does anyone know how I >>>> might resolve it? >>>> 2. What's Safari reader and how do I find out about and download it since >>>> I can't seem to search the support pages with out my computer crashing and >>>> voiceover constantly relaunching. >>>> I'd love any suggestions! >>>> Thanks, Olivia >>>> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> louie >>> louiem...@wavecable.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: safari 5 skipping large blocks of text. Any work arounds?
Interesting, I just experienced this on the San Francisco Chronicle site. Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 7, 2010, at 10:26 PM, John J Herzog wrote: > Hi all, > To experience the following bug, visit a site like www.engadget.com. > Go to one of the story headings and VO right to read it. You will notice that > part of the story reads, but it cuts off and the next thing you see are links > that come at the end. When you VO left arrow, you realize that many lines > were skipped as you previously VO right arrowed. Interestingly, when you VO > left arrow to the point voiceover sopped reading, and then VO right arrow > again, all the text shows up as expected. But it appears that at least > initially safari is not rendering everything to voiceover. > Let me know if anybody else has experienced this. > > John > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: safari reader?
A friend was able to walk me through it. I've figured out the reader, and that if you hide the tool bar, that should help with the busy behavior. Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 7, 2010, at 10:27 PM, May McDonald wrote: > Smile, nope you're definitely not the only one. > > May > On 2010-06-07, at 10:10 PM, Olivia Norman wrote: > >> I'm glad I'm not the only one experiencing issues! >> Olivia >> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs >> >> On Jun 7, 2010, at 9:53 PM, May McDonald wrote: >> >>> Ever since I upgrade to Safari 5 I get the Safari busy a lot now. It's >>> rather annoying. >>> >>> May >>> On 2010-06-07, at 9:50 PM, Olivia Norman wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Everyone, >>>> I updated to Safari 5, but since the update, voiceover seems to keep >>>> relaunching when I try and find out about Safari reader from the Apple >>>> support site. It keeps playing the OS 10 greeting. >>>> So I have a few questions: >>>> 1. Is anyone else experiencing this issue? If so, does anyone know how I >>>> might resolve it? >>>> 2. What's Safari reader and how do I find out about and download it since >>>> I can't seem to search the support pages with out my computer crashing and >>>> voiceover constantly relaunching. >>>> I'd love any suggestions! >>>> Thanks, Olivia >>>> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: safari reader?
I'm glad I'm not the only one experiencing issues! Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 7, 2010, at 9:53 PM, May McDonald wrote: > Ever since I upgrade to Safari 5 I get the Safari busy a lot now. It's rather > annoying. > > May > On 2010-06-07, at 9:50 PM, Olivia Norman wrote: > >> Hi Everyone, >> I updated to Safari 5, but since the update, voiceover seems to keep >> relaunching when I try and find out about Safari reader from the Apple >> support site. It keeps playing the OS 10 greeting. >> So I have a few questions: >> 1. Is anyone else experiencing this issue? If so, does anyone know how I >> might resolve it? >> 2. What's Safari reader and how do I find out about and download it since I >> can't seem to search the support pages with out my computer crashing and >> voiceover constantly relaunching. >> I'd love any suggestions! >> Thanks, Olivia >> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: safari reader?
Thanks. Perhaps that will work. I have no idea why safari five is causing VO to go crazy on my macbook. It just constantly relaunches the greeting instead of interacting with the HTML content. Any thoughts on how I can get this behavior to stop? "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 7, 2010, at 9:57 PM, louie wrote: > Go to the help menu of Safari click on help and you will find a section on > the reader. > > On Jun 7, 2010, at 9:50 PM, Olivia Norman wrote: > >> Hi Everyone, >> I updated to Safari 5, but since the update, voiceover seems to keep >> relaunching when I try and find out about Safari reader from the Apple >> support site. It keeps playing the OS 10 greeting. >> So I have a few questions: >> 1. Is anyone else experiencing this issue? If so, does anyone know how I >> might resolve it? >> 2. What's Safari reader and how do I find out about and download it since I >> can't seem to search the support pages with out my computer crashing and >> voiceover constantly relaunching. >> I'd love any suggestions! >> Thanks, Olivia >> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > louie > louiem...@wavecable.com > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Safari media player more accessible
Interesting. My safari five appears to be acting up a bit. Hopefully, someone can advize me on how to fix this issue with the OS 10 greeting constantly coming up when I interact with HTML content on the Apple support site. Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 7, 2010, at 8:50 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > I notice that they have made the media player in safari 5 completely > accessible. I listen to the Mac roundtable podcast and noticed all the > buttons were labeled, and we had access to the scrub wheel. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
safari reader?
Hi Everyone, I updated to Safari 5, but since the update, voiceover seems to keep relaunching when I try and find out about Safari reader from the Apple support site. It keeps playing the OS 10 greeting. So I have a few questions: 1. Is anyone else experiencing this issue? If so, does anyone know how I might resolve it? 2. What's Safari reader and how do I find out about and download it since I can't seem to search the support pages with out my computer crashing and voiceover constantly relaunching. I'd love any suggestions! Thanks, Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Where can I find the keynote?
Ah, Thanks! I'll try that. Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 7, 2010, at 5:32 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: > Hi Olivia, > this may seem like a simple suggestion, but I just worked for me. > We have a setup here at shellworld that lets me search google news directly > and in text. > I went there and entered the following. > wwdc keynote? > > It brought up a number of stories on the keynote, including one at the San > Francisco chronicle, that has the speech on line. > hope this helps, > Karen > > On Mon, 7 Jun 2010, Carolyn wrote: > >> Olivia: >> You can at least get a summation video on youtube. >> >> Carolyn >> On Jun 7, 2010, at 3:25 PM, Olivia Norman wrote: >> >>> Can anyone point me in the direction of the WWDC keynote? I'm assuming >>> there will be an archive of the event, but I'm having trouble finding one. >>> Thanks! >>> Olivia >>> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Where can I find the keynote?
Thanks! I've subscribed to that podcast, but I guess the event hasn't been put up there yet. Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 7, 2010, at 2:50 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi Olivia, > > There is a podcast series of the Apple Keynotes at the WWDC and Macworld at: > http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/apple-keynotes/id275834665 > but usually the major keynotes don't appear until sometime later in the day. > Then, there's usually an Apple web page put up with multiple formats. I > remember last April someone posted a link to the streaming audio after this > became reader. Chances are, you'll find an announcement page up before you > see an updated file at the podcast page I gave. > > Cheers, > > Esther > > On Jun 7, 2010, at 11:25, Olivia Norman wrote: > >> Can anyone point me in the direction of the WWDC keynote? I'm assuming >> there will be an archive of the event, but I'm having trouble finding one. >> Thanks! >> Olivia > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Where can I find the keynote?
Can anyone point me in the direction of the WWDC keynote? I'm assuming there will be an archive of the event, but I'm having trouble finding one. Thanks! Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: OT--End of Freedom?
I completely agree with you Mike! if one absolutely must use windows for work, or what have you, window eyes seems like a great product and a viable alternative to Jaws. My experience with PC's is pretty limited at this point (I've been exclusively a mac user for the past three years) but have heard good things about window eyes rom others. Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 6, 2010, at 11:42 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: > Hello. > > I don't really feel comfortable weighing in on this issue because the demise > of JFW is apparently a rumor, nothing more. > > However, if you are looking for a positive experience with Windows 7, I would > really consider using Windows 7 with Window-Eyes. It works great! > > As I write this note, however, I can't help but feel how good it is to be > able to use Mac OS and built-in accessibility. We are extremely fortunate to > have responsive people who are dedicated to making VO more than a week > attempt to assert that accessibility issues are being addressed. > > > > > On 6,Jun,2010, at 12:20 AM, Kimberly thurman wrote: > >> Wish I hadn't paid $200 for versions 11, 12, 13. As a matter of fact, I'll >> be we hear something definitive soon, because version 12 should be, at >> least, being talked about within the next couple of months. I have a Vista >> machine I'd like to update to 7, but I've heard about so many people having >> issues with 7 and Jaws that I haven't even opened the update DVD yet. I've >> been trying to decide whether to install it on the mac via Fusion or Boot >> Camp, or upgrade my Vista machine. Guess I'll hang on to it a little >> longer. I don't even know if I can use an upgrade disk to install a fresh >> Windows 7 OS. >> On Jun 5, 2010, at 2:26 PM, Ana G wrote: >> >>> Jaws is a good product, but it's been overpriced for years, and Freedom >>> Scientific hasn't been very responsive to its customer base. We all benefit >>> from screen reader competition. Let's hope FS rethinks it's mission and >>> approach rather than selling off its best product. Open Book, the latest >>> version, is a real disappointment, not at all worth the thousand dollar >>> price tag. >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: [Mac-cessibility News] Join Us Live for Apple's WWDC Keynote
Will there be an archive of this? I am so upset I'll miss it; I'll be on a training route with my dog right at 9:30. Really looking forward to the podcast when I get back! :) Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 6, 2010, at 10:32 AM, Christina wrote: > I know I may sound like a ditz but will this be an audio stream or will it be > text like a live chat? I know and understand we will not be listening to the > actual keynote speech but will Josh and the others be speaking or typing > announcements and such? Sorry about my ignorance here but I've never been to > a site like this. I hope I don't miss it, I really want to catch this. I'm > concerned I'll miss it. I'll try though. :) > > Christina > On Jun 6, 2010, at 9:16 AM, william lomas wrote: > >> Should be interesting I will listen in, cheers guys for putting this >> together. >> >> On Jun 6, 2010, at 5:14 PM, Alfredo wrote: >> >>> WILL YOU POST A PODCAST AFTER THE EVENT IS OVER? >>> ALFREDO >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Safari and Blackboard
Hi Mike, When I was in graduate school, I used safari with blackboard, and it worked great from the start. Make sure that you interact with every frame. You should have no issues; it's very accessible. Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 6, 2010, at 10:11 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > Has anyone had experience using Safari with Blackboard? If so, I'd be > interested in learning about your experiences, picking up pointers and, if > I'm lucky, finding a how-to tutorial. > > I am wondering if it works in principle, or if it is a "no" from the get go. > > Thanks, > > Mike > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: OT--End of Freedom?
I'd just leave it off your mac, if I were you. Do you really need to use windows at home? Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 5, 2010, at 3:20 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote: > Wish I hadn't paid $200 for versions 11, 12, 13. As a matter of fact, I'll > be we hear something definitive soon, because version 12 should be, at least, > being talked about within the next couple of months. I have a Vista machine > I'd like to update to 7, but I've heard about so many people having issues > with 7 and Jaws that I haven't even opened the update DVD yet. I've been > trying to decide whether to install it on the mac via Fusion or Boot Camp, or > upgrade my Vista machine. Guess I'll hang on to it a little longer. I don't > even know if I can use an upgrade disk to install a fresh Windows 7 OS. > On Jun 5, 2010, at 2:26 PM, Ana G wrote: > >> Jaws is a good product, but it's been overpriced for years, and Freedom >> Scientific hasn't been very responsive to its customer base. We all benefit >> from screen reader competition. Let's hope FS rethinks it's mission and >> approach rather than selling off its best product. Open Book, the latest >> version, is a real disappointment, not at all worth the thousand dollar >> price tag. >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: solona
I don't understand how to take a screen shot at all. where do I focus my curser? I'm a bit confused by the process as well. On a macbook keyboard, how do I adjust the screen brightness? Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 5, 2010, at 1:46 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > 1. turn your screen brightness to 100 percent with fn. f2 or f2 depending on > how your keyboard is set up > > 2. go to the website where the offending captcha is and hit cmd shift number > row 3. > > 3. by default your screenshot is saved to your desktop so go back to solona, > hit vo space on submit captcha, choose the file and hit the submit button. > > 4. Now copy and paste the results in to the field where it is supposed to be > on the offending site. > > S > On Jun 5, 2010, at 1:21 PM, Alfredo wrote: > >> I use it on windows without the application since I believe that >> installing uneeded programs on your computer, is well a waste of time >> and you never know when a program will start acting up when you try to >> uninstall it. I just went tot he windows instructions, read them, >> followed them, and thats how I get my catchas solved. I would suggest >> that you do the same, this way you do not have to use the command >> line. The down side to this method would be that you do not know if >> you have actually pasted the picture into your paint program or >> similar for the mac, but trust me, if you pressed the keys, the >> computer did it. I will write a tutorial on this, up it will come in >> about a month or so. >> Alfredo >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: [bcab] End of Freedom?
I agree with you! I've heard that "this works on JFW, so it must be accessible" so many times! I'll be excited to see them loose some of their strangle hold on the market. Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 5, 2010, at 1:47 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: > I will reserve comment on Freedom Scientific as a company. While I too feel > for those who will lose their jobs, I am more concerned for those who are > emotionally attached to jfw. Those who feel they have no choice but to use > windows. Those who are told that everyone uses jfw, and that you are not a > good blind person if you are not using it. those who fear going through the > training process again, if they ever got real training in the first place. > Frankly I hope no one takes over the program. One of the blights on access is > the assumption that say banks and other commercial companies make that if a > site works with jfw, then it is fully accessible for all computer users > experiencing vision loss. That came from the strangle hold jfw had on the > state and government market. > so removing the program all together opens the door indeed for a real > accessible level playing field. something rooted in w3c suggestions, not on > specific products. The adaptive market becomes one with many consumers > making computer choices based on their individual tastes and desires, not a > one size fits all lump of people. > But someone is going to have to help those lost sheep know that they now have > more choices. > Karen > > On Sat, 5 Jun 2010, Allison Manzino wrote: > >> Wow, >> >> That is just amazing. I thought Freedom would have gone under a long time >> ago given their high prices and lack of tech support at least in my opinion. >> I think that people are tired of paying $1500 for a screen reader. I use >> Window-Eyes that is currently being paid off via a payment plan. But Jaws >> kept crashing on me after version 6. I hope they will get someone to take >> the project over, since I know that windows users outnumber Mac. If I >> remember correctly, and this was way back in the late nineties I believe, >> JFW used to be owned by Henter Joyce. They also own Blazie I think. I think >> this might finally level the playing field for all of us. I don't have >> anything against Freedom, I just want technology to be accessible and >> affordable for everyone. >> >> Allison >> >> On Jun 5, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >> >>> Well, it strikes me as being at the rumor and discussion level as of yet, >>> but I wouldn't be surprised to see FS move in that direction. Personally, I >>> won't be getting any more JAWS upgrades, and I'm perfectly happy with the >>> Mac and Alex. :) >>> >>> Teresa >>> On Jun 5, 2010, at 9:42 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: >>> Off topic, but I feel everyone will be interested especially those people who run Fusion on their Macs. Begin forwarded message: > From: "Ibrahim Gucukoglu" > Date: June 5, 2010 9:36:33 AM GMT+01:00 > To: "Kawal Gucukoglu" > Subject: Fw: [bcab] End of Freedom? > > > - Original Message - From: "Colin r. Howard" > To: ; ; > ; ; > > Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 1:30 AM > Subject: [bcab] End of Freedom? > > >> Greetings, >> >> I am posting the main text from a thread just seen on the Blind Audio >> List >> which I am surprised not to have seen on the BCAB or AccessUK groups. >> >> Ought we to give much credence to this? >> >> I, for one, would welcome any comments from Sight and Sound. >> >> From: "Otto Zamora" >> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 05:44:14 -0400 >> >> Morning, >> >> In an advocate meeting yesterday, the subject came up reference Freedom >> Scientific, the company that among other things sports JFw. >> Because the company is in the state of Florida, it came up on a flag by >> an >> analyst. >> Seems this company is having bad money troubles, not surprising given the >> economy, but talk is that they are now looking to sell off some of their >> division, mainly their JFW area. >> I am not sure who if anyone will buy this division, considering that >> there >> is an entity now selling a fully integrated package for only $700. >> Besides a comprehensive screen reader, if the user chooses to get the >> package, there is a browser, along with a customed and fully accessible >> web >> sites, word processing, and E mail. >> all of this can apparently be accessed either on line, or as individual >> program. >> ad to that, the entertainment mogill, and you have a powerful tool indeed >> for the kind of money they are asking for. >> Another side of the equation is the apple company, now selling computers >> already with speech on board right out of the box and off the shelf.
Re: VR streams on a mac?
Thanks so much! Does the new pack come as a zip file and how do I get it from my computer to a stream? "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 5, 2010, at 1:26 PM, Kevin Mattingly wrote: > The stream works great. The only thing you'll need is the new softpack add on > to listen to books from Audible or music from ITunes. The new additional > software interacts with ITunes now and that makes everything accessible. > > Good luck and enjoy your stream... > > Kev > On Jun 5, 2010, at 4:08 PM, Olivia Norman wrote: > >> Hi Everyone, >> I'm in training at GDB in San Rafael, CA. They offer us a great deal on >> streams, so I've decided to take the leap and buy one at the discounted >> price. How will the stream and mac interact? Is there anything special I >> need to know before I buy one? >> Thanks, Olivia >> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
VR streams on a mac?
Hi Everyone, I'm in training at GDB in San Rafael, CA. They offer us a great deal on streams, so I've decided to take the leap and buy one at the discounted price. How will the stream and mac interact? Is there anything special I need to know before I buy one? Thanks, Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: [bcab] End of Freedom?
YAY! YAY! YAY! Goodbye Jaws! :) :) :) :) "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 5, 2010, at 9:42 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > Off topic, but I feel everyone will be interested especially those people who > run Fusion on their Macs. > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: "Ibrahim Gucukoglu" >> Date: June 5, 2010 9:36:33 AM GMT+01:00 >> To: "Kawal Gucukoglu" >> Subject: Fw: [bcab] End of Freedom? >> >> >> - Original Message - From: "Colin r. Howard" >> To: ; ; >> ; ; >> >> Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 1:30 AM >> Subject: [bcab] End of Freedom? >> >> >>> Greetings, >>> >>> I am posting the main text from a thread just seen on the Blind Audio List >>> which I am surprised not to have seen on the BCAB or AccessUK groups. >>> >>> Ought we to give much credence to this? >>> >>> I, for one, would welcome any comments from Sight and Sound. >>> >>> From: "Otto Zamora" >>> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 05:44:14 -0400 >>> >>> Morning, >>> >>> In an advocate meeting yesterday, the subject came up reference Freedom >>> Scientific, the company that among other things sports JFw. >>> Because the company is in the state of Florida, it came up on a flag by an >>> analyst. >>> Seems this company is having bad money troubles, not surprising given the >>> economy, but talk is that they are now looking to sell off some of their >>> division, mainly their JFW area. >>> I am not sure who if anyone will buy this division, considering that there >>> is an entity now selling a fully integrated package for only $700. >>> Besides a comprehensive screen reader, if the user chooses to get the >>> package, there is a browser, along with a customed and fully accessible web >>> sites, word processing, and E mail. >>> all of this can apparently be accessed either on line, or as individual >>> program. >>> ad to that, the entertainment mogill, and you have a powerful tool indeed >>> for the kind of money they are asking for. >>> Another side of the equation is the apple company, now selling computers >>> already with speech on board right out of the box and off the shelf. >>> Put these two aspects together, and you have a deadly combo that might very >>> well result in a abrupt end to the JFW program. >>> Considering the way that technology is growing, older versions of JFW, will >>> only work for a short while until the programs controlling the OS, begins to >>> outgrow the application. >>> In seeing this package, one of the things which was pointed out to me, was >>> the learning curve, which for the new package being sold by Mr.. Mike Calvo, >>> is very short. >>> The user has the option to learn as little or as much as they want without >>> real loss. From: "Alison Trelfa" >>> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 15:36:47 +0100 >>> >>> Hello, Otto, >>> >>> I wonder whether many jaws users would move to another speech program as yet >>> as many of the packages that are not standard probably wouldn't be supported >>> by the out of the box speech. I run Sonar and Sibelius 5.25, both of which >>> are using scripts that have been written by folk who specialise not only in >>> Jaws, but only in the two programs. I suppose those people who only need >>> computers for basic commands may well get away with speech such as you >>> describe, but I don't think that Jaws would just be dismissed out of hand >>> because Freedom is going. I think Jaws has changed hands once before if I'm >>> not mistaken? Correct me if I'm wrong there. >>> >>> I would be very sorry to see Jaws go under, but I'm not worried yet. There >>> is a huge following for Jaws and I believe that someone would take it over. >>> >>> From: "Otto Zamora" >>> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 10:49:36 -0400 >>> >>> hi, >>> >>> You are correct, I am just stating that from what we were told, they are >>> having a hard time finding someone who will take on the project,especially >>> since as you point out, most people are not using anything that is high >>> end, and from what we also have heard, people are tired of having to pay >>> $1500 and change, when there now is a program which will do speech and more >>> for only $700. >>> Given the economy, for many people, the sedition may be financial. >>> >>> >>> From: Geoff Long >>> Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 16:20:04 +0100 >>> >>> Hi Alison, I wonder how many JAWS users have to >>> pay for their own equipment. I use window-eyes, >>> which is considerably less expensive, and as I >>> had to pay for my training and kit from my own >>> pocket, it makes a big difference. >>> >>> From: "Dr Norman Waddington" >>> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 16:36:22 +0100 >>> >>> Hi Geoff, >>> >>> I need no introduction to you on this list. >>> >>> I am a Jaws user and have paid all the way through out of my own pocket from >>> version 3.5 methinks if I remember correctly. >>> >>> >>> From: Anders Holmberg >>> Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 17:37:37 +0200 >>> >>> Hello! >>> Also we have nvda as a very good and free alternativ
Re: PLEASE HELP Alex is rebelling`
Hey! Give me a call and I'll get this corrected! Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs On Jun 4, 2010, at 6:51 PM, Carolyn wrote: > Hi my patient mac family: > Ok, Alex is rebelling and is reading everything character by character So, > the dumb question of the year: How did I get him there? And the smarter one: > How do I get VO to behave properly again? > Thanks in advance. It's pretty hard to read anything this way. I know at > one point, Alex said, "Character," and he hasn't been the same since. > Again, thanks. > > Carolyn > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
