Re: Question for anyone who uses AirPods Max with there Mac.

[Herbie Allen]

I will give that a try.

> On Jun 2, 2024, at 19:19, Bradford Snyder  wrote:
> 
> No, I have not experienced behavior like this from my AirPods Max headphones.
> You might try resetting the headphones, by holding down the crown and the ANC 
> button together for about 10 seconds.
> Then tell your devices to “Forget” the headphones, and then pair them again, 
> and see if this helps.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 2, 2024, at 13:40, Herbie Allen  wrote:
> 
> I’ve experienced something lately and I’m wondering if anyone else is or if I 
> have a problem? Whenever I disconn disconnect them and put them back in the 
> case, I still get a notification multiple times that my AirPods Max are 
> connected. This happens even when I plug them in and they are charging.
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Re: Question for anyone who uses AirPods Max with there Mac.

[Bradford Snyder]

No, I have not experienced behavior like this from my AirPods Max headphones.
You might try resetting the headphones, by holding down the crown and the ANC 
button together for about 10 seconds.
Then tell your devices to “Forget” the headphones, and then pair them again, 
and see if this helps.

- Brad -



On Jun 2, 2024, at 13:40, Herbie Allen  wrote:

I’ve experienced something lately and I’m wondering if anyone else is or if I 
have a problem? Whenever I disconn disconnect them and put them back in the 
case, I still get a notification multiple times that my AirPods Max are 
connected. This happens even when I plug them in and they are charging.

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Question for anyone who uses AirPods Max with there Mac.

[Herbie Allen]

I’ve experienced something lately and I’m wondering if anyone else is or if I 
have a problem? Whenever I disconn disconnect them and put them back in the 
case, I still get a notification multiple times that my AirPods Max are 
connected. This happens even when I plug them in and they are charging.

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Re: AirPods 2nd Gen question

[Jessica Moss]

I have the AirPods second gen’s as well, )not the pro’s) and have noticed that 
sometimes the widget will display the cases battery life on my phone, and 
sometimes it won’t.

> On Feb 2, 2024, at 10:25 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> The widget on the Iphone should tell you about the case too.
> It does on my Iphone 15 Pro max with iOS 17.4 beta.
> But I have the AirPods Pro 2nd gen so it may be a difference in how things 
> show up.
> /A
> 
>> 2 feb. 2024 kl. 18:09 skrev mr.robertcole via MacVisionaries 
>> :
>> 
>> Dear List,
>> I am late jumping on the AirPods  band wagon.
>> I have a question, How can I tell if the case is charged?
>> This is the case with the Lightning port.
>> My iPhone 14 battery widget says the AirPods are at 95% charged.
>> What about left ear charge or right ear charge?
>> Last Night I had trouble connecting the AirPods to my iPhone 14 for the 
>> first time.
>> Holding the case next to the phone and opening the lid brought up  the 
>> connect screen, but every time  I hit connect I get error connection failed. 
>> And in bluetooth settings, tapping on AirPods got error, pairing failed.
>> After choosing to forget device, I held the button on the case for 5 seconds 
>> and finally  got it to pair.
>> My second question is what holder do you suggest for making sure the AirPods 
>> does not fall out of the ears?
>> It is a loop that fits around the ear and holds the AirPods.
>> Thanks,
>> Rob
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Re: AirPods 2nd Gen question

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
The widget on the Iphone should tell you about the case too.
It does on my Iphone 15 Pro max with iOS 17.4 beta.
But I have the AirPods Pro 2nd gen so it may be a difference in how things show 
up.
/A

> 2 feb. 2024 kl. 18:09 skrev mr.robertcole via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Dear List,
> I am late jumping on the AirPods  band wagon.
> I have a question, How can I tell if the case is charged?
> This is the case with the Lightning port.
> My iPhone 14 battery widget says the AirPods are at 95% charged.
> What about left ear charge or right ear charge?
> Last Night I had trouble connecting the AirPods to my iPhone 14 for the first 
> time.
> Holding the case next to the phone and opening the lid brought up  the 
> connect screen, but every time  I hit connect I get error connection failed. 
> And in bluetooth settings, tapping on AirPods got error, pairing failed.
> After choosing to forget device, I held the button on the case for 5 seconds 
> and finally  got it to pair.
> My second question is what holder do you suggest for making sure the AirPods 
> does not fall out of the ears?
> It is a loop that fits around the ear and holds the AirPods.
> Thanks,
> Rob
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AirPods 2nd Gen question

[mr.robertcole via MacVisionaries]

Dear List,
I am late jumping on the AirPods  band wagon.
I have a question, How can I tell if the case is charged?
This is the case with the Lightning port.
My iPhone 14 battery widget says the AirPods are at 95% charged.
What about left ear charge or right ear charge?
Last Night I had trouble connecting the AirPods to my iPhone 14 for the first 
time.
Holding the case next to the phone and opening the lid brought up  the connect 
screen, but every time  I hit connect I get error connection failed. And in 
bluetooth settings, tapping on AirPods got error, pairing failed.
After choosing to forget device, I held the button on the case for 5 seconds 
and finally  got it to pair.
My second question is what holder do you suggest for making sure the AirPods 
does not fall out of the ears?
It is a loop that fits around the ear and holds the AirPods.
Thanks,
Rob

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Re: Has Anyone Managed to Seamlessly and Consistently have VoiceOver Audio Switch Between Apple Watch and iPhone, via AirPods?

[joseph hodge]

Sadly, no this is one of my biggest frustrations with the AirPods and the 
ecosystem. It appears that they don’t view voiceover as an audio source or 
anything of importance. I say this because I can be using my Apple Watch and if 
I’m playing real media, then it never switches to my iPhone when using the 
AirPods. As soon as I stop playing media though, and I’m just swiping through, 
let’s say the home screen, the Apple Watch will often drop off the AirPods and 
voice will come out the watches speaker.I hate saying things like this, but 
it’s very clear that the testers do not use voiceover permanently or for the 
ones that do they may not be being listen to. It’s very frustrating as I would 
like to use the watch more in bed, but cannot because of this inconsistency. I 
don’t want to annoy my wife.



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> On Jul 22, 2023, at 9:12 AM, lenron brown  wrote:
> 
> The swapping between devices works just not as fast and smooth as one
> would like.
> 
>> On 7/14/23, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> As the subject indicates, my question is:
>> Has anyone managed to seamlessly and consistently have VoiceOver audio
>> switch between Apple Watch and iPhone, via AirPods?
>> 
>> I would think it an easy proposition to hear VoiceOver audio in my Airpods
>> when I use either the phone or the watch; yet, I cannot seem to manage to
>> get it to work.
>> 
>> Here is how it would look:
>> 
>> With VoiceOver enabled on both my iPhone and Apple watch I:
>> 
>> 1.
>> Place my Airpods in my ears.
>> 
>> 2.
>> Touch the screen of my iPhone and hear VoiceOver audio feedback through the
>> Airpods.
>> 
>> 3.
>> Touch the display screen of my Apple watch and hear VoiceOver audio
>> feedback
>> through the Airpods.
>> 
>> 4.
>> Touch the screen of my iPhone and hear VoiceOver audio feedback through the
>> Airpods.
>> 
>> That's all, nothing more.
>> 
>> As you may recall, I enjoyed such a scenario for a few years a good while
>> back, via a third-party Bluetooth headset until Apple, in its infinite
>> wisdom, broke the feature.
>> 
>> All replies greatly appreciated,
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
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Re: Has Anyone Managed to Seamlessly and Consistently have VoiceOver Audio Switch Between Apple Watch and iPhone, via AirPods?

[lenron brown]

The swapping between devices works just not as fast and smooth as one
would like.

On 7/14/23, M. Taylor  wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
>
> As the subject indicates, my question is:
> Has anyone managed to seamlessly and consistently have VoiceOver audio
> switch between Apple Watch and iPhone, via AirPods?
>
> I would think it an easy proposition to hear VoiceOver audio in my Airpods
> when I use either the phone or the watch; yet, I cannot seem to manage to
> get it to work.
>
> Here is how it would look:
>
> With VoiceOver enabled on both my iPhone and Apple watch I:
>
> 1.
> Place my Airpods in my ears.
>
> 2.
> Touch the screen of my iPhone and hear VoiceOver audio feedback through the
> Airpods.
>
> 3.
> Touch the display screen of my Apple watch and hear VoiceOver audio
> feedback
> through the Airpods.
>
> 4.
> Touch the screen of my iPhone and hear VoiceOver audio feedback through the
> Airpods.
>
> That's all, nothing more.
>
> As you may recall, I enjoyed such a scenario for a few years a good while
> back, via a third-party Bluetooth headset until Apple, in its infinite
> wisdom, broke the feature.
>
> All replies greatly appreciated,
>
> Mark
>
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Has Anyone Managed to Seamlessly and Consistently have VoiceOver Audio Switch Between Apple Watch and iPhone, via AirPods?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

As the subject indicates, my question is:
Has anyone managed to seamlessly and consistently have VoiceOver audio
switch between Apple Watch and iPhone, via AirPods?

I would think it an easy proposition to hear VoiceOver audio in my Airpods
when I use either the phone or the watch; yet, I cannot seem to manage to
get it to work.

Here is how it would look:  

With VoiceOver enabled on both my iPhone and Apple watch I:

1.
Place my Airpods in my ears.

2.
Touch the screen of my iPhone and hear VoiceOver audio feedback through the
Airpods.

3.
Touch the display screen of my Apple watch and hear VoiceOver audio feedback
through the Airpods.

4.
Touch the screen of my iPhone and hear VoiceOver audio feedback through the
Airpods.

That's all, nothing more.

As you may recall, I enjoyed such a scenario for a few years a good while
back, via a third-party Bluetooth headset until Apple, in its infinite
wisdom, broke the feature.

All replies greatly appreciated,

Mark


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Cannot Start or Stop Alexa Assistive Reader Playback using Earpods or Airpods Manual Controls

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

Recently, I have discovered that I cannot start or stop Alexa reading a
Kindle book on iPhone using either my Ear Pod or Air Pod manual controls.
Also, the VoiceOver magic tap will no longer start or stop playback, either.

Has anyone encountered this?

Steps to reproduce:

1.
With either Apple Earpods or Airpods connected to iPhone, open the Alexa
app.

2.
Using either voice commands or on-screen controls, get Alexa to begin
reading a Kindle book title.

3.
Now, try to stop /pause playback of the title by either using the magic tap,
the play / pause button on the wired Earpods, or by hand gestures on the
Airpods.  

Unlike in previous versions of Alexa, none of them work.

All replies greatly appreciated.

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Cannot Start or Stop Alexa Assistive Reader Playback using Earpods or Airpods Manual Controls

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

Recently, I have discovered that I cannot start or stop Alexa reading a
Kindle book on iPhone using either my Ear Pod or Air Pod manual controls.
Also, the VoiceOver magic tap will no longer start or stop playback, either.

Has anyone encountered this?

Steps to reproduce:

1.
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app.

2.
Using either voice commands or on-screen controls, get Alexa to begin
reading a Kindle book title.

3.
Now, try to stop /pause playback of the title by either using the magic tap,
the play / pause button on the wired Earpods, or by hand gestures on the
Airpods.  

Unlike in previous versions of Alexa, none of them work.

All replies greatly appreciated.

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Re: Rapid battery drain with case for 2nd gen AirPods Pro?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hmm.  Well, thanks for letting me know.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Mar 20, 2023, at 2:56 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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> Hi!
> No, not here at all.
> Only with iPad mini. 6 and safari.
> I guess you have to talk to the apple guys again.
> /A
> 
>> 20 mars 2023 kl. 04:14 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> :
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> For the last couple of months, I have noticed extremely rapid battery drain 
>> with the case for my 2nd gen AirPods Pro.  This was not a problem when I 
>> first got them; it seems like it started to be a problem some time in 
>> January.  Has anyone else experienced this?  Does anyone know of a fix?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: Rapid battery drain with case for 2nd gen AirPods Pro?

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
No, not here at all.
Only with iPad mini. 6 and safari.
I guess you have to talk to the apple guys again.
/A

> 20 mars 2023 kl. 04:14 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> :
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> Hi all,
> 
> For the last couple of months, I have noticed extremely rapid battery drain 
> with the case for my 2nd gen AirPods Pro.  This was not a problem when I 
> first got them; it seems like it started to be a problem some time in 
> January.  Has anyone else experienced this?  Does anyone know of a fix?
> TIA,
> Donna
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Rapid battery drain with case for 2nd gen AirPods Pro?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi all,

For the last couple of months, I have noticed extremely rapid battery drain 
with the case for my 2nd gen AirPods Pro.  This was not a problem when I first 
got them; it seems like it started to be a problem some time in January.  Has 
anyone else experienced this?  Does anyone know of a fix?
TIA,
Donna

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Re: Sound is always loud on my AirPods when connected to Mac.

[Jessica Moss]

That’s interesting, I’ve only managed to perform a double-tap on each one, that 
I had to reprogram to make them skip forward/backward, and neither of mine make 
noise when doing so.
  I haven’t been brave enough to try to talk on them yet, so can’t say anything 
in regard to that.  In regard to the sensor, I’m assuming, at least with mine, 
there’s a section at the top that feels like a tiny groove.
  I’ve swiped that any number of times, and unfortunately, the volume never 
seems to change.

> On Mar 18, 2023, at 3:46 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Yes, you can adjust the sound on the AIRPODS Pro 2 with this gesture. If you 
> feel the stem of the AirPods there is an area that is slightly flattened. It 
> has the following function
> 1. Single tap Play/Pause / answer  / hang up 
> 2. Double tap Skip forward usually to next item you are listening to. 
> 3. Triple tap skip back 
> 4. Swipe up or down adjust volume. 
> 
> 
> The taps produce a clicking sound in the ear and the swipes a soft beep.
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 18, 2023, at 3:34 PM, Jessica Moss > <mailto:junglebookfa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> That’s what I thought.  That’s what I eventually had to end up doing as 
>> well, since nothing else worked.
>>  Supposedly, according to an article I’ve found, you’re supposed to be able 
>> to adjust the volume of the AirPods themselves by putting your thumb on the 
>> stems, and swiping up or down from the sensors, but I’ve never been able to 
>> make that work.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 18, 2023, at 12:08 PM, christopher moore >> <mailto:chris.w...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Jessica,
>>> I use the f11 and f112 keys to adjust the volume.
>>> Chris
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 14, 2023, at 4:29 PM, Jessica Moss >>> <mailto:junglebookfa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I’ve just connected my AirPods Second Generation to my M1 Mac, and the 
>>>> sound is blaring loud, no matter how much I decrease my output volume.
>>>> I’ve never had this problem on my iPhone, although I’ve never found a way 
>>>> to adjust the volume of the AirPods themselves independently, only by 
>>>> using the volume buttons on the phone.  Is this what I’m stuck doing on 
>>>> the Mac as well, changing the overall system volume whenever I want to 
>>>> listen to them?
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Re: Sound is always loud on my AirPods when connected to Mac.

[Jonathan Cohn]

Yes, you can adjust the sound on the AIRPODS Pro 2 with this gesture. If you 
feel the stem of the AirPods there is an area that is slightly flattened. It 
has the following function
1. Single tap Play/Pause / answer  / hang up 
2. Double tap Skip forward usually to next item you are listening to. 
3. Triple tap skip back 
4. Swipe up or down adjust volume. 


The taps produce a clicking sound in the ear and the swipes a soft beep.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Mar 18, 2023, at 3:34 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> That’s what I thought.  That’s what I eventually had to end up doing as well, 
> since nothing else worked.
>  Supposedly, according to an article I’ve found, you’re supposed to be able 
> to adjust the volume of the AirPods themselves by putting your thumb on the 
> stems, and swiping up or down from the sensors, but I’ve never been able to 
> make that work.
> 
> 
>> On Mar 18, 2023, at 12:08 PM, christopher moore  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Jessica,
>> I use the f11 and f112 keys to adjust the volume.
>> Chris
>> 
>>> On Mar 14, 2023, at 4:29 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’ve just connected my AirPods Second Generation to my M1 Mac, and the 
>>> sound is blaring loud, no matter how much I decrease my output volume.
>>> I’ve never had this problem on my iPhone, although I’ve never found a way 
>>> to adjust the volume of the AirPods themselves independently, only by using 
>>> the volume buttons on the phone.  Is this what I’m stuck doing on the Mac 
>>> as well, changing the overall system volume whenever I want to listen to 
>>> them?
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Re: Sound is always loud on my AirPods when connected to Mac.

[Jessica Moss]

That’s what I thought.  That’s what I eventually had to end up doing as well, 
since nothing else worked.
  Supposedly, according to an article I’ve found, you’re supposed to be able to 
adjust the volume of the AirPods themselves by putting your thumb on the stems, 
and swiping up or down from the sensors, but I’ve never been able to make that 
work.


> On Mar 18, 2023, at 12:08 PM, christopher moore  wrote:
> 
> Hello Jessica,
> I use the f11 and f112 keys to adjust the volume.
> Chris
> 
>> On Mar 14, 2023, at 4:29 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve just connected my AirPods Second Generation to my M1 Mac, and the sound 
>> is blaring loud, no matter how much I decrease my output volume.
>> I’ve never had this problem on my iPhone, although I’ve never found a way to 
>> adjust the volume of the AirPods themselves independently, only by using the 
>> volume buttons on the phone.  Is this what I’m stuck doing on the Mac as 
>> well, changing the overall system volume whenever I want to listen to them?
>> 
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Re: Sound is always loud on my AirPods when connected to Mac.

[christopher moore]

Hello Jessica,
I use the f11 and f112 keys to adjust the volume.
Chris

> On Mar 14, 2023, at 4:29 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
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> I’ve just connected my AirPods Second Generation to my M1 Mac, and the sound 
> is blaring loud, no matter how much I decrease my output volume.
>  I’ve never had this problem on my iPhone, although I’ve never found a way to 
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> volume buttons on the phone.  Is this what I’m stuck doing on the Mac as 
> well, changing the overall system volume whenever I want to listen to them?
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Sound is always loud on my AirPods when connected to Mac.

[Jessica Moss]

I’ve just connected my AirPods Second Generation to my M1 Mac, and the sound is 
blaring loud, no matter how much I decrease my output volume.
  I’ve never had this problem on my iPhone, although I’ve never found a way to 
adjust the volume of the AirPods themselves independently, only by using the 
volume buttons on the phone.  Is this what I’m stuck doing on the Mac as well, 
changing the overall system volume whenever I want to listen to them?

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AirPods Max on an M1 Mac.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
It seems the AirPods Max sounds better on my New Mac mini m1 than my Old 
MacBook Air.
Maybe not surprising but I was  a bit chocked.
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is this also for airpods pro 2: Magnetic Anti Lost Strap for Apple Airpods - Siliconen Wireless Band

[William Windels]

hello, i bought airpods pro 2e generation and I want to hold both airpods 
together wit a strip.
I am not shure but are te strips for the airpods pro 1 gen also working on the 
2 gen of airpods pro?

if so, are there some good experiences with this streps? and which one?

Thx in advance
Mvg 
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Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

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Re: Removing the Tips from the AirPods Pro.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Well it was  not the AirPods max.
I know how to change the cushions on them.
And i resolved my AirPods Pro issue too.
But thank you anyway mate.
I never gonna buy 3rd part tips for the AirPods Pro.
The original fits me perfectly.
/A

> 21 aug. 2022 kl. 15:15 skrev Phil Halton :
> 
> A simple Google search for “removing tips from iPods Max“ will give you the 
> information. I tried to paste it in but ran into trouble. I guess you’re 
> supposed to pinch the rubber/silicon insert on either side  and then pull it 
> straight out until it pops off. But check Google for more information.
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
>> On Aug 21, 2022, at 5:05 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I hope this is not off topic but I am a bit frustrated as I knew how to do 
>> this but actually I seem to have forgotten or at least can’t make it.
>> I am trying to remove the eartips from my AirPods Pro but I can’t do it.
>> They are to big for my ears I guess.
>> I grab the  eartip and try to turn it to the left which does not work and 
>> then to the  right which does not work either.
>> So i am stumped and feel so  stupid.
>> Can someone help me out?
>> /A
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Re: Removing the Tips from the AirPods Pro.

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A simple Google search for “removing tips from iPods Max“ will give you the 
information. I tried to paste it in but ran into trouble. I guess you’re 
supposed to pinch the rubber/silicon insert on either side  and then pull it 
straight out until it pops off. But check Google for more information.

Sent from my IPhone


> On Aug 21, 2022, at 5:05 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I hope this is not off topic but I am a bit frustrated as I knew how to do 
> this but actually I seem to have forgotten or at least can’t make it.
> I am trying to remove the eartips from my AirPods Pro but I can’t do it.
> They are to big for my ears I guess.
> I grab the  eartip and try to turn it to the left which does not work and 
> then to the  right which does not work either.
> So i am stumped and feel so  stupid.
> Can someone help me out?
> /A
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Removing the Tips from the AirPods Pro.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I hope this is not off topic but I am a bit frustrated as I knew how to do this 
but actually I seem to have forgotten or at least can’t make it.
I am trying to remove the eartips from my AirPods Pro but I can’t do it.
They are to big for my ears I guess.
I grab the  eartip and try to turn it to the left which does not work and then 
to the  right which does not work either.
So i am stumped and feel so  stupid.
Can someone help me out?
/A

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Re: AirPods max

[joseph hudson]

Oh that's cool, well I did try my lightning to USB cable, by hooking it up to 
my android. And it did not work. And OK. I'll have to look at some of those 
Apple support pages.

> On May 3, 2022, at 10:17 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
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> Hi Joseph, I’m not sure about the USB-C to lightning cable, actually I don’t 
> think it will do the job. I found out about the bi directional audio cable by 
> looking through the AirPods Max literature and Apple support. Otherwise I 
> never would’ve known about it. A Anders, I guess they hurt my ears is the 
> reason why I don’t like wearing phones they seem to press on my earlobes and 
> just the feeling of having a compression on my head bothers me over the long 
> term. Although, I’m willing to give it a shot and see if I can use them 
> long-term because in my environment a noise canceling headphones may come in 
> handy during the summer months if you know what I mean.  Anyway the audio 
> cable will help me plug-in to my guitar amplifier and listen to my playing 
> without any external sound. Plus the tinniness of the little hand sized 
> amplifier going through a nice set of your phones will probably make it much 
> more interesting that’s why I want the audio cable. I’m hoping it works well 
> and I assume it will. 
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
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> 
>> On May 3, 2022, at 4:14 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Well if you don’t like wearing headphones then I really understand why you 
>> don’t like wearing them to long.
>> I admit that they are quite heavy and if I  was made of money I would rather 
>> buy the Bang & Olufsen Beoplay H95.
>> The cable is pretty steep for a cable.
>> I have it and its a thin long cable which I never would have bought if I 
>> hadn’t got some Christmas money for them.
>> Just curious?
>> Why don’t you like headphones?
>> Bless!
>> /A
>> 
>>> 3 maj 2022 kl. 04:06 skrev Phil Halton :
>>> 
>>> I bought a pair of AirPods max today just to try them out. Got 14 days to 
>>> return if they don’t work out. Anyway, kind of pricey but they look really 
>>> good and the audio quality is very high. Like all headphones, they’re a 
>>> little uncomfortable to wear long term, but maybe that’s just me, I don’t 
>>> like wearing headphones of any kind. As they go these are about as 
>>> comfortable as they can get. The one feature I really like is the ability 
>>> to convert them to a wired headset so they can be used with older equipment 
>>> that has 3.5 mm output jacks. Especial cable lightning to 3.5 mm by 
>>> directional audio cable makes it possible. I tried to use a Bluetooth 
>>> transmitter to get around the problem of wired versus wireless, but the 
>>> latency issue was a dealbreaker. This audio cable should really make the 
>>> difference. I’m using them to hear myself playing a musical instrument, so 
>>> the latency issue is critical. As I said though I’m expecting that the 
>>> direct wired headset into the amplifier will overcomes the issue. It’s hard 
>>> to justify the price but if this works out I’ll probably keep them. I’ll 
>>> get back with any updates if I find anything new about these. As it stands 
>>> they’re looking pretty good. 
>>> 
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Re: AirPods Max

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Hi!
Happy listening mate!
Its amazing how they sound.
/A

> 8 maj 2022 kl. 00:42 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi all,
> 
> All I can say is wow!! Just picked up my new AirPods Max and I have to 
> say you guys are all right. I have never owned such amazing headphones. 
> Didn’t have too long to listen, but gave the 1812 overture a quick play, and 
> boy was it fun!
> Thanks for all the feedback and the recommendations.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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Re: AirPods Max

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You are most welcome!

> On May 7, 2022, at 17:42, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi all,
> 
> All I can say is wow!! Just picked up my new AirPods Max and I have to 
> say you guys are all right. I have never owned such amazing headphones. 
> Didn’t have too long to listen, but gave the 1812 overture a quick play, and 
> boy was it fun!
> Thanks for all the feedback and the recommendations.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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AirPods Max

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi all,

All I can say is wow!! Just picked up my new AirPods Max and I have to say 
you guys are all right. I have never owned such amazing headphones. Didn’t have 
too long to listen, but gave the 1812 overture a quick play, and boy was it fun!
Thanks for all the feedback and the recommendations.
Cheers,
Donna

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Re: Anyone have any experience with the Airpods Max?

[Terje Strømberg]

A youtuber said apple want better sound. The bluetooth may be dropped. A
new wifi sort of protocol may be used instead. Don't now for sure or when,
but i believe it will happen before 2024.

Take care




tir. 3. mai 2022 kl. 15:31 skrev Herbie Allen :

> I think that until processing gets much better, you’re always going to
> have Bluetooth limitations when it comes to two-way transmitting. This is
> something they could play with more so on the M1 Macs, but I think it’s
> probably a lower priority to them.
>
>
> On May 3, 2022, at 08:20, Kliph  wrote:
>
> I love the sound quality for music, i love the battery life. The things I
> don’t like
> •not being able to switch to another device on the fly. Example, when I
> had my Bose quiet comfort, i could push my power button up once to get to
> my iPHone, twice to get to my mac, then a third time to come back to my
> primary.
> •No deadicated mute button. Sometimes I am on facetime calls, or zoom
> calls, and I am not near device, you want to be able to mute on the fly
> instead of running back to device to do so.
> •Microphone sound quality. Now i may be a little touchy here, but
> recording podcasts, and dealing with studio sound may factor in here. It
> sounds hollow or with a slight echo when played back, and of course there
> is a slight lag.  Surprisingly where i get the best sound quality from the
> 9 microphones it claims to use, is in zoom on the mac. ON the phone its a
> bit better, but not by much. You would think with a price tag this high,
> they could do a bit better. I don’t even use them as much as I thought i
> would based on the sound quality of the microphone. Some say turn off ANC,
> or transparenancy mode, to get better microphone quality. Why would i want
> to do that when those are features I bought them for? Have thought of
> selling them, but they were a gift. So I will hold onto them for now. But i
> use my airpod 3rd generations 4 times as much as I use the airpod max.
>
> Are you good at editing audio or want to learn how? Want to explore all
> the options on how to make your recordings for podcasts or other files
> sound good? Then audio editing101 is the group for you, join here
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> Even Checkout my  SoundEffects Folder
> <https://www.icloud.com/iclouddrive/063P7bU9RkC56Vdw_V5QaMf1Q#Ring_tone_library>
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> receive updated resources
> Let’s master editing audio together!
>
> On May 3, 2022, at 6:42 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <
> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hmm.  Good to know.  Thanks!
> Donna
>
>
> On May 3, 2022, at 5:48 AM, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>
> I love mine: I find the sound quality to be very good; transparency mode
> is great, that’s how I mainly use mine though sometimes use noise
> cancelling if I have noise around me which is intrusive; that’s also very
> good. The only thing is that I find them a bit temperamental; occasionally
> have to reset them.
>
> All the best
> Angie
>
>
> On 29 Apr 2022, at 12:36, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <
> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Good morning, all,
>
> I’ve had the AirPods Pro for years, and in terms of performance and sound
> am quite happy with them.  But the left one has never really fit snugly in
> my ear, and because of my involvement with the clinical trial I mentioned a
> few weeks back, I’m going to be doing a lot of plane travel over the next
> several years.  I don’t use my Airpods on the plane, because I’m afraid one
> of them will fall out and I’ll never find it again.  So, I’m thinking about
> investing in a good set of over-the-ear headphones, and since I’ve been
> happy with my Airpods Pro, the Max are currently at the top of my list..
>
> Anyone on the list using them? If yes, are you happy with them?  Pros?
> Cons?
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: Anyone have any experience with the Airpods Max?

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I am not surprised it doesn’t sound that good for studio use.
THey’re not made for that.
People who I talk to on the phone with them doesn’t complain anyway.
/A

> 3 maj 2022 kl. 15:20 skrev Kliph :
> 
> I love the sound quality for music, i love the battery life. The things I 
> don’t like
> •not being able to switch to another device on the fly. Example, when I had 
> my Bose quiet comfort, i could push my power button up once to get to my 
> iPHone, twice to get to my mac, then a third time to come back to my primary.
> •No deadicated mute button. Sometimes I am on facetime calls, or zoom calls, 
> and I am not near device, you want to be able to mute on the fly instead of 
> running back to device to do so.
> •Microphone sound quality. Now i may be a little touchy here, but recording 
> podcasts, and dealing with studio sound may factor in here. It sounds hollow 
> or with a slight echo when played back, and of course there is a slight lag.  
> Surprisingly where i get the best sound quality from the 9 microphones it 
> claims to use, is in zoom on the mac. ON the phone its a bit better, but not 
> by much. You would think with a price tag this high, they could do a bit 
> better. I don’t even use them as much as I thought i would based on the sound 
> quality of the microphone. Some say turn off ANC, or transparenancy mode, to 
> get better microphone quality. Why would i want to do that when those are 
> features I bought them for? Have thought of selling them, but they were a 
> gift. So I will hold onto them for now. But i use my airpod 3rd generations 4 
> times as much as I use the airpod max.
> 
> Are you good at editing audio or want to learn how? Want to explore all the 
> options on how to make your recordings for podcasts or other files sound 
> good? Then audio editing101 is the group for you, join here
> audio-editing101+subscr...@groups.io
>  <mailto:audio-editing101+subscr...@groups.io>Even Checkout my  SoundEffects 
> Folder 
> <https://www.icloud.com/iclouddrive/063P7bU9RkC56Vdw_V5QaMf1Q#Ring_tone_library>
>  to receive updated resources
> Let’s master editing audio together!
> 
>> On May 3, 2022, at 6:42 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hmm.  Good to know.  Thanks!
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 3, 2022, at 5:48 AM, Angie Nutt >> <mailto:an...@comproom.co.uk>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I love mine: I find the sound quality to be very good; transparency mode is 
>>> great, that’s how I mainly use mine though sometimes use noise cancelling 
>>> if I have noise around me which is intrusive; that’s also very good. The 
>>> only thing is that I find them a bit temperamental; occasionally have to 
>>> reset them.
>>> 
>>> All the best
>>> Angie
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 29 Apr 2022, at 12:36, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Good morning, all,
>>>> 
>>>> I’ve had the AirPods Pro for years, and in terms of performance and sound 
>>>> am quite happy with them.  But the left one has never really fit snugly in 
>>>> my ear, and because of my involvement with the clinical trial I mentioned 
>>>> a few weeks back, I’m going to be doing a lot of plane travel over the 
>>>> next several years.  I don’t use my Airpods on the plane, because I’m 
>>>> afraid one of them will fall out and I’ll never find it again.  So, I’m 
>>>> thinking about investing in a good set of over-the-ear headphones, and 
>>>> since I’ve been happy with my Airpods Pro, the Max are currently at the 
>>>> top of my list..
>>>> 
>>>> Anyone on the list using them? If yes, are you happy with them?  Pros? 
>>>> Cons? 
>>>> TIA,
>>>> Donna
>>>> 
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Re: Anyone have any experience with the Airpods Max?

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Yes I had to do it yesterday which was a bit irritating.
/A

> 3 maj 2022 kl. 12:48 skrev Angie Nutt :
> 
> I love mine: I find the sound quality to be very good; transparency mode is 
> great, that’s how I mainly use mine though sometimes use noise cancelling if 
> I have noise around me which is intrusive; that’s also very good. The only 
> thing is that I find them a bit temperamental; occasionally have to reset 
> them.
> 
> All the best
> Angie
> 
> 
>> On 29 Apr 2022, at 12:36, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Good morning, all,
>> 
>> I’ve had the AirPods Pro for years, and in terms of performance and sound am 
>> quite happy with them.  But the left one has never really fit snugly in my 
>> ear, and because of my involvement with the clinical trial I mentioned a few 
>> weeks back, I’m going to be doing a lot of plane travel over the next 
>> several years.  I don’t use my Airpods on the plane, because I’m afraid one 
>> of them will fall out and I’ll never find it again.  So, I’m thinking about 
>> investing in a good set of over-the-ear headphones, and since I’ve been 
>> happy with my Airpods Pro, the Max are currently at the top of my list..
>> 
>> Anyone on the list using them? If yes, are you happy with them?  Pros? Cons? 
>> TIA,
>> Donna
>> 
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Re: Anyone have any experience with the Airpods Max?

[Angie Nutt]

Actually, I should have said that I’ve had to forget and pair them again. Have 
reset them once but can’t remember how as it was
last year. The problem I have from time to time is that they simply won’t 
connect to my phone, even when I try to do it manually. When going back to them 
later they usually work. Have had this with the AirPods 2nd gen too.


> On 3 May 2022, at 16:24, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> Angie, could you elaborate on what you mean by “resetting “the AirPods Max? 
> Is that something to do with the button press combination between the crown 
> and the transparency button? What exactly are you talking about and what are 
> the conditions under which you need to reset?
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
>> On May 3, 2022, at 9:38 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Interesting take.  Thanks Kliph.  I’m more interested in them for 
>> listening, so the mic thing probably won’t be as big a deal for me.
>> 
>> That Bose feature does sound nice, but I much prefer the sound on apple 
>> headphones than Bose.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 3, 2022, at 8:20 AM, Kliph >> <mailto:kliph.miller...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I love the sound quality for music, i love the battery life. The things I 
>>> don’t like
>>> •not being able to switch to another device on the fly. Example, when I had 
>>> my Bose quiet comfort, i could push my power button up once to get to my 
>>> iPHone, twice to get to my mac, then a third time to come back to my 
>>> primary.
>>> •No deadicated mute button. Sometimes I am on facetime calls, or zoom 
>>> calls, and I am not near device, you want to be able to mute on the fly 
>>> instead of running back to device to do so.
>>> •Microphone sound quality. Now i may be a little touchy here, but recording 
>>> podcasts, and dealing with studio sound may factor in here. It sounds 
>>> hollow or with a slight echo when played back, and of course there is a 
>>> slight lag.  Surprisingly where i get the best sound quality from the 9 
>>> microphones it claims to use, is in zoom on the mac. ON the phone its a bit 
>>> better, but not by much. You would think with a price tag this high, they 
>>> could do a bit better. I don’t even use them as much as I thought i would 
>>> based on the sound quality of the microphone. Some say turn off ANC, or 
>>> transparenancy mode, to get better microphone quality. Why would i want to 
>>> do that when those are features I bought them for? Have thought of selling 
>>> them, but they were a gift. So I will hold onto them for now. But i use my 
>>> airpod 3rd generations 4 times as much as I use the airpod max.
>>> 
>>> Are you good at editing audio or want to learn how? Want to explore all the 
>>> options on how to make your recordings for podcasts or other files sound 
>>> good? Then audio editing101 is the group for you, join here
>>> audio-editing101+subscr...@groups.io
>>>  <mailto:audio-editing101+subscr...@groups.io>Even Checkout my  
>>> SoundEffects Folder 
>>> <https://www.icloud.com/iclouddrive/063P7bU9RkC56Vdw_V5QaMf1Q#Ring_tone_library>
>>>  to receive updated resources
>>> Let’s master editing audio together!
>>> 
>>>> On May 3, 2022, at 6:42 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hmm.  Good to know.  Thanks!
>>>> Donna
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 3, 2022, at 5:48 AM, Angie Nutt >>>> <mailto:an...@comproom.co.uk>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I love mine: I find the sound quality to be very good; transparency mode 
>>>>> is great, that’s how I mainly use mine though sometimes use noise 
>>>>> cancelling if I have noise around me which is intrusive; that’s also very 
>>>>> good. The only thing is that I find them a bit temperamental; 
>>>>> occasionally have to reset them.
>>>>> 
>>>>> All the best
>>>>> Angie
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 29 Apr 2022, at 12:36, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>> >>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Good morning, all,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I’ve had the AirPods Pro for years, and in terms of performance and 
>>>>>>

Re: Anyone have any experience with the Airpods Max?

[Kliph]

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> On May 3, 2022, at 8:37 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Interesting take.  Thanks Kliph.  I’m more interested in them for listening, 
> so the mic thing probably won’t be as big a deal for me.
> 
> That Bose feature does sound nice, but I much prefer the sound on apple 
> headphones than Bose.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On May 3, 2022, at 8:20 AM, Kliph > <mailto:kliph.miller...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I love the sound quality for music, i love the battery life. The things I 
>> don’t like
>> •not being able to switch to another device on the fly. Example, when I had 
>> my Bose quiet comfort, i could push my power button up once to get to my 
>> iPHone, twice to get to my mac, then a third time to come back to my primary.
>> •No deadicated mute button. Sometimes I am on facetime calls, or zoom calls, 
>> and I am not near device, you want to be able to mute on the fly instead of 
>> running back to device to do so.
>> •Microphone sound quality. Now i may be a little touchy here, but recording 
>> podcasts, and dealing with studio sound may factor in here. It sounds hollow 
>> or with a slight echo when played back, and of course there is a slight lag. 
>>  Surprisingly where i get the best sound quality from the 9 microphones it 
>> claims to use, is in zoom on the mac. ON the phone its a bit better, but not 
>> by much. You would think with a price tag this high, they could do a bit 
>> better. I don’t even use them as much as I thought i would based on the 
>> sound quality of the microphone. Some say turn off ANC, or transparenancy 
>> mode, to get better microphone quality. Why would i want to do that when 
>> those are features I bought them for? Have thought of selling them, but they 
>> were a gift. So I will hold onto them for now. But i use my airpod 3rd 
>> generations 4 times as much as I use the airpod max.
>> 
>> Are you good at editing audio or want to learn how? Want to explore all the 
>> options on how to make your recordings for podcasts or other files sound 
>> good? Then audio editing101 is the group for you, join here
>> audio-editing101+subscr...@groups.io
>>  <mailto:audio-editing101+subscr...@groups.io>Even Checkout my  SoundEffects 
>> Folder 
>> <https://www.icloud.com/iclouddrive/063P7bU9RkC56Vdw_V5QaMf1Q#Ring_tone_library>
>>  to receive updated resources
>> Let’s master editing audio together!
>> 
>>> On May 3, 2022, at 6:42 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hmm.  Good to know.  Thanks!
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On May 3, 2022, at 5:48 AM, Angie Nutt >>> <mailto:an...@comproom.co.uk>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I love mine: I find the sound quality to be very good; transparency mode 
>>>> is great, that’s how I mainly use mine though sometimes use noise 
>>>> cancelling if I have noise around me which is intrusive; that’s also very 
>>>> good. The only thing is that I find them a bit temperamental; occasionally 
>>>> have to reset them.
>>>> 
>>>> All the best
>>>> Angie
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 29 Apr 2022, at 12:36, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>> >>>&

Re: Anyone have any experience with the Airpods Max?

[Phil Halton]

Angie, could you elaborate on what you mean by “resetting “the AirPods Max? Is 
that something to do with the button press combination between the crown and 
the transparency button? What exactly are you talking about and what are the 
conditions under which you need to reset?

Sent from my IPhone


> On May 3, 2022, at 9:38 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Interesting take.  Thanks Kliph.  I’m more interested in them for listening, 
> so the mic thing probably won’t be as big a deal for me.
> 
> That Bose feature does sound nice, but I much prefer the sound on apple 
> headphones than Bose.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>>> On May 3, 2022, at 8:20 AM, Kliph  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I love the sound quality for music, i love the battery life. The things I 
>>> don’t like
>>> •not being able to switch to another device on the fly. Example, when I had 
>>> my Bose quiet comfort, i could push my power button up once to get to my 
>>> iPHone, twice to get to my mac, then a third time to come back to my 
>>> primary.
>>> •No deadicated mute button. Sometimes I am on facetime calls, or zoom 
>>> calls, and I am not near device, you want to be able to mute on the fly 
>>> instead of running back to device to do so.
>>> •Microphone sound quality. Now i may be a little touchy here, but recording 
>>> podcasts, and dealing with studio sound may factor in here. It sounds 
>>> hollow or with a slight echo when played back, and of course there is a 
>>> slight lag.  Surprisingly where i get the best sound quality from the 9 
>>> microphones it claims to use, is in zoom on the mac. ON the phone its a bit 
>>> better, but not by much. You would think with a price tag this high, they 
>>> could do a bit better. I don’t even use them as much as I thought i would 
>>> based on the sound quality of the microphone. Some say turn off ANC, or 
>>> transparenancy mode, to get better microphone quality. Why would i want to 
>>> do that when those are features I bought them for? Have thought of selling 
>>> them, but they were a gift. So I will hold onto them for now. But i use my 
>>> airpod 3rd generations 4 times as much as I use the airpod max.
>>> 
>>> Are you good at editing audio or want to learn how? Want to explore all the 
>>> options on how to make your recordings for podcasts or other files sound 
>>> good? Then audio editing101 is the group for you, join here
>>> audio-editing101+subscr...@groups.io
>>> Even Checkout my  SoundEffects Folder to receive updated resources
>>> Let’s master editing audio together!
>>> 
>>> On May 3, 2022, at 6:42 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hmm.  Good to know.  Thanks!
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On May 3, 2022, at 5:48 AM, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I love mine: I find the sound quality to be very good; transparency mode 
>>>> is great, that’s how I mainly use mine though sometimes use noise 
>>>> cancelling if I have noise around me which is intrusive; that’s also very 
>>>> good. The only thing is that I find them a bit temperamental; occasionally 
>>>> have to reset them.
>>>> 
>>>> All the best
>>>> Angie
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 29 Apr 2022, at 12:36, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Good morning, all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’ve had the AirPods Pro for years, and in terms of performance and sound 
>>>>> am quite happy with them.  But the left one has never really fit snugly 
>>>>> in my ear, and because of my involvement with the clinical trial I 
>>>>> mentioned a few weeks back, I’m going to be doing a lot of plane travel 
>>>>> over the next several years.  I don’t use my Airpods on the plane, 
>>>>> because I’m afraid one of them will fall out and I’ll never find it 
>>>>> again.  So, I’m thinking about investing in a good set of over-the-ear 
>>>>> headphones, and since I’ve been happy with my Airpods Pro, the Max are 
>>>>> currently at the top of my list..
>>>>> 
>>>>> Anyone on the list using them? If yes, are you happy with them?  Pros? 
>>>>> Cons? 
>>>>> TIA,
>>>>> Donna
>>>>> 
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Re: AirPods max

[Phil Halton]

Hi Joseph, I’m not sure about the USB-C to lightning cable, actually I don’t 
think it will do the job. I found out about the bi directional audio cable by 
looking through the AirPods Max literature and Apple support. Otherwise I never 
would’ve known about it. A Anders, I guess they hurt my ears is the reason why 
I don’t like wearing phones they seem to press on my earlobes and just the 
feeling of having a compression on my head bothers me over the long term. 
Although, I’m willing to give it a shot and see if I can use them long-term 
because in my environment a noise canceling headphones may come in handy during 
the summer months if you know what I mean.  Anyway the audio cable will help me 
plug-in to my guitar amplifier and listen to my playing without any external 
sound. Plus the tinniness of the little hand sized amplifier going through a 
nice set of your phones will probably make it much more interesting that’s why 
I want the audio cable. I’m hoping it works well and I assume it will. 

Sent from my IPhone


> On May 3, 2022, at 4:14 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Well if you don’t like wearing headphones then I really understand why you 
> don’t like wearing them to long.
> I admit that they are quite heavy and if I  was made of money I would rather 
> buy the Bang & Olufsen Beoplay H95.
> The cable is pretty steep for a cable.
> I have it and its a thin long cable which I never would have bought if I 
> hadn’t got some Christmas money for them.
> Just curious?
> Why don’t you like headphones?
> Bless!
> /A
> 
>> 3 maj 2022 kl. 04:06 skrev Phil Halton :
>> 
>> I bought a pair of AirPods max today just to try them out. Got 14 days to 
>> return if they don’t work out. Anyway, kind of pricey but they look really 
>> good and the audio quality is very high. Like all headphones, they’re a 
>> little uncomfortable to wear long term, but maybe that’s just me, I don’t 
>> like wearing headphones of any kind. As they go these are about as 
>> comfortable as they can get. The one feature I really like is the ability to 
>> convert them to a wired headset so they can be used with older equipment 
>> that has 3.5 mm output jacks. Especial cable lightning to 3.5 mm by 
>> directional audio cable makes it possible. I tried to use a Bluetooth 
>> transmitter to get around the problem of wired versus wireless, but the 
>> latency issue was a dealbreaker. This audio cable should really make the 
>> difference. I’m using them to hear myself playing a musical instrument, so 
>> the latency issue is critical. As I said though I’m expecting that the 
>> direct wired headset into the amplifier will overcomes the issue. It’s hard 
>> to justify the price but if this works out I’ll probably keep them. I’ll get 
>> back with any updates if I find anything new about these. As it stands 
>> they’re looking pretty good. 
>> 
>> Sent from my IPhone
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Re: Anyone have any experience with the Airpods Max?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Interesting take.  Thanks Kliph.  I’m more interested in them for listening, so 
the mic thing probably won’t be as big a deal for me.

That Bose feature does sound nice, but I much prefer the sound on apple 
headphones than Bose.
Cheers,
Donna


> On May 3, 2022, at 8:20 AM, Kliph  wrote:
> 
> I love the sound quality for music, i love the battery life. The things I 
> don’t like
> •not being able to switch to another device on the fly. Example, when I had 
> my Bose quiet comfort, i could push my power button up once to get to my 
> iPHone, twice to get to my mac, then a third time to come back to my primary.
> •No deadicated mute button. Sometimes I am on facetime calls, or zoom calls, 
> and I am not near device, you want to be able to mute on the fly instead of 
> running back to device to do so.
> •Microphone sound quality. Now i may be a little touchy here, but recording 
> podcasts, and dealing with studio sound may factor in here. It sounds hollow 
> or with a slight echo when played back, and of course there is a slight lag.  
> Surprisingly where i get the best sound quality from the 9 microphones it 
> claims to use, is in zoom on the mac. ON the phone its a bit better, but not 
> by much. You would think with a price tag this high, they could do a bit 
> better. I don’t even use them as much as I thought i would based on the sound 
> quality of the microphone. Some say turn off ANC, or transparenancy mode, to 
> get better microphone quality. Why would i want to do that when those are 
> features I bought them for? Have thought of selling them, but they were a 
> gift. So I will hold onto them for now. But i use my airpod 3rd generations 4 
> times as much as I use the airpod max.
> 
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>> On May 3, 2022, at 6:42 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hmm.  Good to know.  Thanks!
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 3, 2022, at 5:48 AM, Angie Nutt >> <mailto:an...@comproom.co.uk>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I love mine: I find the sound quality to be very good; transparency mode is 
>>> great, that’s how I mainly use mine though sometimes use noise cancelling 
>>> if I have noise around me which is intrusive; that’s also very good. The 
>>> only thing is that I find them a bit temperamental; occasionally have to 
>>> reset them.
>>> 
>>> All the best
>>> Angie
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 29 Apr 2022, at 12:36, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Good morning, all,
>>>> 
>>>> I’ve had the AirPods Pro for years, and in terms of performance and sound 
>>>> am quite happy with them.  But the left one has never really fit snugly in 
>>>> my ear, and because of my involvement with the clinical trial I mentioned 
>>>> a few weeks back, I’m going to be doing a lot of plane travel over the 
>>>> next several years.  I don’t use my Airpods on the plane, because I’m 
>>>> afraid one of them will fall out and I’ll never find it again.  So, I’m 
>>>> thinking about investing in a good set of over-the-ear headphones, and 
>>>> since I’ve been happy with my Airpods Pro, the Max are currently at the 
>>>> top of my list..
>>>> 
>>>> Anyone on the list using them? If yes, are you happy with them?  Pros? 
>>>> Cons? 
>>>> TIA,
>>>> Donna
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Re: Anyone have any experience with the Airpods Max?

[Herbie Allen]

I think that until processing gets much better, you’re always going to have 
Bluetooth limitations when it comes to two-way transmitting. This is something 
they could play with more so on the M1 Macs, but I think it’s probably a lower 
priority to them.

> On May 3, 2022, at 08:20, Kliph  wrote:
> 
> I love the sound quality for music, i love the battery life. The things I 
> don’t like
> •not being able to switch to another device on the fly. Example, when I had 
> my Bose quiet comfort, i could push my power button up once to get to my 
> iPHone, twice to get to my mac, then a third time to come back to my primary.
> •No deadicated mute button. Sometimes I am on facetime calls, or zoom calls, 
> and I am not near device, you want to be able to mute on the fly instead of 
> running back to device to do so.
> •Microphone sound quality. Now i may be a little touchy here, but recording 
> podcasts, and dealing with studio sound may factor in here. It sounds hollow 
> or with a slight echo when played back, and of course there is a slight lag.  
> Surprisingly where i get the best sound quality from the 9 microphones it 
> claims to use, is in zoom on the mac. ON the phone its a bit better, but not 
> by much. You would think with a price tag this high, they could do a bit 
> better. I don’t even use them as much as I thought i would based on the sound 
> quality of the microphone. Some say turn off ANC, or transparenancy mode, to 
> get better microphone quality. Why would i want to do that when those are 
> features I bought them for? Have thought of selling them, but they were a 
> gift. So I will hold onto them for now. But i use my airpod 3rd generations 4 
> times as much as I use the airpod max.
> 
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> options on how to make your recordings for podcasts or other files sound 
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> 
>> On May 3, 2022, at 6:42 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hmm.  Good to know.  Thanks!
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 3, 2022, at 5:48 AM, Angie Nutt >> <mailto:an...@comproom.co.uk>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I love mine: I find the sound quality to be very good; transparency mode is 
>>> great, that’s how I mainly use mine though sometimes use noise cancelling 
>>> if I have noise around me which is intrusive; that’s also very good. The 
>>> only thing is that I find them a bit temperamental; occasionally have to 
>>> reset them.
>>> 
>>> All the best
>>> Angie
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 29 Apr 2022, at 12:36, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Good morning, all,
>>>> 
>>>> I’ve had the AirPods Pro for years, and in terms of performance and sound 
>>>> am quite happy with them.  But the left one has never really fit snugly in 
>>>> my ear, and because of my involvement with the clinical trial I mentioned 
>>>> a few weeks back, I’m going to be doing a lot of plane travel over the 
>>>> next several years.  I don’t use my Airpods on the plane, because I’m 
>>>> afraid one of them will fall out and I’ll never find it again.  So, I’m 
>>>> thinking about investing in a good set of over-the-ear headphones, and 
>>>> since I’ve been happy with my Airpods Pro, the Max are currently at the 
>>>> top of my list..
>>>> 
>>>> Anyone on the list using them? If yes, are you happy with them?  Pros? 
>>>> Cons? 
>>>> TIA,
>>>> Donna
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Re: Anyone have any experience with the Airpods Max?

[Kliph]

I love the sound quality for music, i love the battery life. The things I don’t 
like
•not being able to switch to another device on the fly. Example, when I had my 
Bose quiet comfort, i could push my power button up once to get to my iPHone, 
twice to get to my mac, then a third time to come back to my primary.
•No deadicated mute button. Sometimes I am on facetime calls, or zoom calls, 
and I am not near device, you want to be able to mute on the fly instead of 
running back to device to do so.
•Microphone sound quality. Now i may be a little touchy here, but recording 
podcasts, and dealing with studio sound may factor in here. It sounds hollow or 
with a slight echo when played back, and of course there is a slight lag.  
Surprisingly where i get the best sound quality from the 9 microphones it 
claims to use, is in zoom on the mac. ON the phone its a bit better, but not by 
much. You would think with a price tag this high, they could do a bit better. I 
don’t even use them as much as I thought i would based on the sound quality of 
the microphone. Some say turn off ANC, or transparenancy mode, to get better 
microphone quality. Why would i want to do that when those are features I 
bought them for? Have thought of selling them, but they were a gift. So I will 
hold onto them for now. But i use my airpod 3rd generations 4 times as much as 
I use the airpod max.

Are you good at editing audio or want to learn how? Want to explore all the 
options on how to make your recordings for podcasts or other files sound good? 
Then audio editing101 is the group for you, join here
audio-editing101+subscr...@groups.io
 <mailto:audio-editing101+subscr...@groups.io>Even Checkout my  SoundEffects 
Folder 
<https://www.icloud.com/iclouddrive/063P7bU9RkC56Vdw_V5QaMf1Q#Ring_tone_library>
 to receive updated resources
Let’s master editing audio together!

> On May 3, 2022, at 6:42 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hmm.  Good to know.  Thanks!
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On May 3, 2022, at 5:48 AM, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>> 
>> I love mine: I find the sound quality to be very good; transparency mode is 
>> great, that’s how I mainly use mine though sometimes use noise cancelling if 
>> I have noise around me which is intrusive; that’s also very good. The only 
>> thing is that I find them a bit temperamental; occasionally have to reset 
>> them.
>> 
>> All the best
>> Angie
>> 
>> 
>>> On 29 Apr 2022, at 12:36, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good morning, all,
>>> 
>>> I’ve had the AirPods Pro for years, and in terms of performance and sound 
>>> am quite happy with them.  But the left one has never really fit snugly in 
>>> my ear, and because of my involvement with the clinical trial I mentioned a 
>>> few weeks back, I’m going to be doing a lot of plane travel over the next 
>>> several years.  I don’t use my Airpods on the plane, because I’m afraid one 
>>> of them will fall out and I’ll never find it again.  So, I’m thinking about 
>>> investing in a good set of over-the-ear headphones, and since I’ve been 
>>> happy with my Airpods Pro, the Max are currently at the top of my list..
>>> 
>>> Anyone on the list using them? If yes, are you happy with them?  Pros? 
>>> Cons? 
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
>>> 
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Re: Anyone have any experience with the Airpods Max?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hmm.  Good to know.  Thanks!
Donna


> On May 3, 2022, at 5:48 AM, Angie Nutt  wrote:
> 
> I love mine: I find the sound quality to be very good; transparency mode is 
> great, that’s how I mainly use mine though sometimes use noise cancelling if 
> I have noise around me which is intrusive; that’s also very good. The only 
> thing is that I find them a bit temperamental; occasionally have to reset 
> them.
> 
> All the best
> Angie
> 
> 
>> On 29 Apr 2022, at 12:36, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Good morning, all,
>> 
>> I’ve had the AirPods Pro for years, and in terms of performance and sound am 
>> quite happy with them.  But the left one has never really fit snugly in my 
>> ear, and because of my involvement with the clinical trial I mentioned a few 
>> weeks back, I’m going to be doing a lot of plane travel over the next 
>> several years.  I don’t use my Airpods on the plane, because I’m afraid one 
>> of them will fall out and I’ll never find it again.  So, I’m thinking about 
>> investing in a good set of over-the-ear headphones, and since I’ve been 
>> happy with my Airpods Pro, the Max are currently at the top of my list..
>> 
>> Anyone on the list using them? If yes, are you happy with them?  Pros? Cons? 
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: Anyone have any experience with the Airpods Max?

[Angie Nutt]

I love mine: I find the sound quality to be very good; transparency mode is 
great, that’s how I mainly use mine though sometimes use noise cancelling if I 
have noise around me which is intrusive; that’s also very good. The only thing 
is that I find them a bit temperamental; occasionally have to reset them.

All the best
Angie


> On 29 Apr 2022, at 12:36, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Good morning, all,
> 
> I’ve had the AirPods Pro for years, and in terms of performance and sound am 
> quite happy with them.  But the left one has never really fit snugly in my 
> ear, and because of my involvement with the clinical trial I mentioned a few 
> weeks back, I’m going to be doing a lot of plane travel over the next several 
> years.  I don’t use my Airpods on the plane, because I’m afraid one of them 
> will fall out and I’ll never find it again.  So, I’m thinking about investing 
> in a good set of over-the-ear headphones, and since I’ve been happy with my 
> Airpods Pro, the Max are currently at the top of my list..
> 
> Anyone on the list using them? If yes, are you happy with them?  Pros? Cons? 
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: AirPods max

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Well if you don’t like wearing headphones then I really understand why you 
don’t like wearing them to long.
I admit that they are quite heavy and if I  was made of money I would rather 
buy the Bang & Olufsen Beoplay H95.
The cable is pretty steep for a cable.
I have it and its a thin long cable which I never would have bought if I hadn’t 
got some Christmas money for them.
Just curious?
Why don’t you like headphones?
Bless!
/A

> 3 maj 2022 kl. 04:06 skrev Phil Halton :
> 
> I bought a pair of AirPods max today just to try them out. Got 14 days to 
> return if they don’t work out. Anyway, kind of pricey but they look really 
> good and the audio quality is very high. Like all headphones, they’re a 
> little uncomfortable to wear long term, but maybe that’s just me, I don’t 
> like wearing headphones of any kind. As they go these are about as 
> comfortable as they can get. The one feature I really like is the ability to 
> convert them to a wired headset so they can be used with older equipment that 
> has 3.5 mm output jacks. Especial cable lightning to 3.5 mm by directional 
> audio cable makes it possible. I tried to use a Bluetooth transmitter to get 
> around the problem of wired versus wireless, but the latency issue was a 
> dealbreaker. This audio cable should really make the difference. I’m using 
> them to hear myself playing a musical instrument, so the latency issue is 
> critical. As I said though I’m expecting that the direct wired headset into 
> the amplifier will overcomes the issue. It’s hard to justify the price but if 
> this works out I’ll probably keep them. I’ll get back with any updates if I 
> find anything new about these. As it stands they’re looking pretty good. 
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
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Re: AirPods max

[Joseph Hudson]

Hi Phil, that is awesome. I didn’t know they made it lightning to 3.5 mm a 
doctor. This is quite interesting. I will definitely have to look into this. 
Especially if I get something that doesn’t take a USB-C to lightning adapter. 
Is that the only cable I have them or I would like to look and see if I could 
make them connect to my android phone. As my android phone is a USB-C. And it’s 
not worth trying to pair them via Bluetooth. I should definitely try that. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 2, 2022, at 9:06 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> I bought a pair of AirPods max today just to try them out. Got 14 days to 
> return if they don’t work out. Anyway, kind of pricey but they look really 
> good and the audio quality is very high. Like all headphones, they’re a 
> little uncomfortable to wear long term, but maybe that’s just me, I don’t 
> like wearing headphones of any kind. As they go these are about as 
> comfortable as they can get. The one feature I really like is the ability to 
> convert them to a wired headset so they can be used with older equipment that 
> has 3.5 mm output jacks. Especial cable lightning to 3.5 mm by directional 
> audio cable makes it possible. I tried to use a Bluetooth transmitter to get 
> around the problem of wired versus wireless, but the latency issue was a 
> dealbreaker. This audio cable should really make the difference. I’m using 
> them to hear myself playing a musical instrument, so the latency issue is 
> critical. As I said though I’m expecting that the direct wired headset into 
> the amplifier will overcomes the issue. It’s hard to justify the price but if 
> this works out I’ll probably keep them. I’ll get back with any updates if I 
> find anything new about these. As it stands they’re looking pretty good. 
> 
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AirPods max

[Phil Halton]

I bought a pair of AirPods max today just to try them out. Got 14 days to 
return if they don’t work out. Anyway, kind of pricey but they look really good 
and the audio quality is very high. Like all headphones, they’re a little 
uncomfortable to wear long term, but maybe that’s just me, I don’t like wearing 
headphones of any kind. As they go these are about as comfortable as they can 
get. The one feature I really like is the ability to convert them to a wired 
headset so they can be used with older equipment that has 3.5 mm output jacks. 
Especial cable lightning to 3.5 mm by directional audio cable makes it 
possible. I tried to use a Bluetooth transmitter to get around the problem of 
wired versus wireless, but the latency issue was a dealbreaker. This audio 
cable should really make the difference. I’m using them to hear myself playing 
a musical instrument, so the latency issue is critical. As I said though I’m 
expecting that the direct wired headset into the amplifier will overcomes the 
issue. It’s hard to justify the price but if this works out I’ll probably keep 
them. I’ll get back with any updates if I find anything new about these. As it 
stands they’re looking pretty good. 

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Re: Anyone have any experience with the Airpods Max?

[Pete Nalda]

One obvious problem with the AirPod max, is it safe if you wear a hat that has 
a brim that goes all the way around, they won’t work with that unless you wear 
them down all around your head. but they’re  apt to fall off. 

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
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> On Apr 29, 2022, at 7:19 AM, joseph hodge  wrote:
> 
> I love mine as well! They have a great sound and are some of my favorite 
> noise canceling headphones! The build is just outstanding. I do wish Apple 
> had made a better case for them I ended up buying a hardshow case on Amazon 
> for them but ultimately they're a great pair of headphones! The ability to 
> switch from my iPhone to my Apple TV seamlessly is awesome as well! My only 
> other complaint I guess would be that they didn't put a power button which 
> means there is some battery drain overtime and it's unpredictable what that 
> will be! That's where I kind of get annoyed the most with these but you can 
> charge and listen at the same time if you forgot to put them on a charger.
> 
>> On Apr 29, 2022, at 7:53 AM, Pete Nalda  wrote:
>> 
>> Oh God yes!  Are used to take pictures of myself wearing them! Then somebody 
>> said you should not be walking around town with those on your head! But 
>> believe me the ambience is so good in ambience mode that you can hear 
>> everything it’s like immersive hearing aids with music in the background but 
>> but yeah I would probably be better off taking those off when I cross the 
>> street but I was that bad I’ll have them on all the time. All that said, I 
>> think they would be great to fly with, with one caveat they are heavy! And a 
>> bit bulky too, but I still love them.
>> 
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>>>> On Apr 29, 2022, at 6:36 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good morning, all,
>>> 
>>> I’ve had the AirPods Pro for years, and in terms of performance and sound 
>>> am quite happy with them.  But the left one has never really fit snugly in 
>>> my ear, and because of my involvement with the clinical trial I mentioned a 
>>> few weeks back, I’m going to be doing a lot of plane travel over the next 
>>> several years.  I don’t use my Airpods on the plane, because I’m afraid one 
>>> of them will fall out and I’ll never find it again.  So, I’m thinking about 
>>> investing in a good set of over-the-ear headphones, and since I’ve been 
>>> happy with my Airpods Pro, the Max are currently at the top of my list..
>>> 
>>> Anyone on the list using them? If yes, are you happy with them?  Pros? 
>>> Cons? 
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
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Re: Anyone have any experience with the Airpods Max?

[joseph hudson]

I don't blame you, I haven't used my in the ear headphones since I bought the 
AirPods Max.

> On Apr 30, 2022, at 8:36 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi Joseph,
> 
> I’m really amazed at all the positive feedback you all have posted about 
> these headphones.  I’m really excited to check them out.  It’s funny, when 
> Apple came out with the original Airpods, I never thought I would want over 
> the ear headphones again.  I love the tiny size and the convenience of my 
> AirPods Pro.  But the very thing I love about them is, in my current 
> situation, the very thing that keeps me from using them.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Apr 30, 2022, at 12:05 AM, joseph hudson > <mailto:jhud7...@twc.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Donna, very happy with them. It's one of the best purchases I've ever made 
>> yet. I use them every day with my phone in my Mac.
>> Joseph Hudson
>> 
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>>> On Apr 29, 2022, at 6:36 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good morning, all,
>>> 
>>> I’ve had the AirPods Pro for years, and in terms of performance and sound 
>>> am quite happy with them.  But the left one has never really fit snugly in 
>>> my ear, and because of my involvement with the clinical trial I mentioned a 
>>> few weeks back, I’m going to be doing a lot of plane travel over the next 
>>> several years.  I don’t use my Airpods on the plane, because I’m afraid one 
>>> of them will fall out and I’ll never find it again.  So, I’m thinking about 
>>> investing in a good set of over-the-ear headphones, and since I’ve been 
>>> happy with my Airpods Pro, the Max are currently at the top of my list..
>>> 
>>> Anyone on the list using them? If yes, are you happy with them?  Pros? 
>>> Cons? 
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
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Re: Anyone have any experience with the Airpods Max?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Oh, that’s cool!
Donna


> On Apr 30, 2022, at 5:12 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
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> The cushions are removable, and can be washed from time to time.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 30, 2022, at 17:01, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
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> Interesting.  I was hoping to get to check them out tomorrow, but I won’t be 
> able to.  Glad to hear they’re comfortable, though.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
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>> On Apr 30, 2022, at 4:45 PM, Anders Holmberg > > wrote:
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>> Hi!
>> THe cushions are made of some material that are very comfortable to my ears.
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Re: Anyone have any experience with the Airpods Max?

[Brad Snyder]

The cushions are removable, and can be washed from time to time.

- Brad -




On Apr 30, 2022, at 17:01, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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Interesting.  I was hoping to get to check them out tomorrow, but I won’t be 
able to.  Glad to hear they’re comfortable, though.
Cheers,
Donna


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> Hi!
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Re: Anyone have any experience with the Airpods Max?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Interesting.  I was hoping to get to check them out tomorrow, but I won’t be 
able to.  Glad to hear they’re comfortable, though.
Cheers,
Donna


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Re: Anyone have any experience with the Airpods Max?

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Hi!
THe cushions are made of some material that are very comfortable to my ears.
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Re: Anyone have any experience with the Airpods Max?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Oh, I can so imagine why you’d get tired of having something in your ear all 
the time!  Thanks for adding to all the other positive feedback. :)
Cheers,
Donna


> On Apr 30, 2022, at 9:16 AM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
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> Hi Donna,
> 
> Well, I will add my positive feedback to everyone else regarding the AirPods 
> Max. I bought them and pay them overtime over six months. Interest free. What 
> I like about them besides what everybody else has said is the fact that they 
> over the ear. I wear hearing aids almost all day and they go in my ears and 
> after wearing those, I really want to wear something that goes over my ear 
> and over my head. It’s some comfortable and much preferred after wearing 
> hearing aids. Hope this is helpful.
> Best,
> Les 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Apr 30, 2022, at 9:36 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
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>> Hi Joseph,
>> 
>> I’m really amazed at all the positive feedback you all have posted about 
>> these headphones.  I’m really excited to check them out.  It’s funny, when 
>> Apple came out with the original Airpods, I never thought I would want over 
>> the ear headphones again.  I love the tiny size and the convenience of my 
>> AirPods Pro.  But the very thing I love about them is, in my current 
>> situation, the very thing that keeps me from using them.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Apr 30, 2022, at 12:05 AM, joseph hudson >> <mailto:jhud7...@twc.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Donna, very happy with them. It's one of the best purchases I've ever made 
>>> yet. I use them every day with my phone in my Mac.
>>> Joseph Hudson
>>> 
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>>>> On Apr 29, 2022, at 6:36 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Good morning, all,
>>>> 
>>>> I’ve had the AirPods Pro for years, and in terms of performance and sound 
>>>> am quite happy with them.  But the left one has never really fit snugly in 
>>>> my ear, and because of my involvement with the clinical trial I mentioned 
>>>> a few weeks back, I’m going to be doing a lot of plane travel over the 
>>>> next several years.  I don’t use my Airpods on the plane, because I’m 
>>>> afraid one of them will fall out and I’ll never find it again.  So, I’m 
>>>> thinking about investing in a good set of over-the-ear headphones, and 
>>>> since I’ve been happy with my Airpods Pro, the Max are currently at the 
>>>> top of my list..
>>>> 
>>>> Anyone on the list using them? If yes, are you happy with them?  Pros? 
>>>> Cons? 
>>>> TIA,
>>>> Donna
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Re: Anyone have any experience with the Airpods Max?

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Donna,

Well, I will add my positive feedback to everyone else regarding the AirPods 
Max. I bought them and pay them overtime over six months. Interest free. What I 
like about them besides what everybody else has said is the fact that they over 
the ear. I wear hearing aids almost all day and they go in my ears and after 
wearing those, I really want to wear something that goes over my ear and over 
my head. It’s some comfortable and much preferred after wearing hearing aids. 
Hope this is helpful.
Best,
Les 

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> On Apr 30, 2022, at 9:36 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Joseph,
> 
> I’m really amazed at all the positive feedback you all have posted about 
> these headphones.  I’m really excited to check them out.  It’s funny, when 
> Apple came out with the original Airpods, I never thought I would want over 
> the ear headphones again.  I love the tiny size and the convenience of my 
> AirPods Pro.  But the very thing I love about them is, in my current 
> situation, the very thing that keeps me from using them.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Apr 30, 2022, at 12:05 AM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>> 
>> Donna, very happy with them. It's one of the best purchases I've ever made 
>> yet. I use them every day with my phone in my Mac.
>> Joseph Hudson
>> 
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>>> On Apr 29, 2022, at 6:36 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good morning, all,
>>> 
>>> I’ve had the AirPods Pro for years, and in terms of performance and sound 
>>> am quite happy with them.  But the left one has never really fit snugly in 
>>> my ear, and because of my involvement with the clinical trial I mentioned a 
>>> few weeks back, I’m going to be doing a lot of plane travel over the next 
>>> several years.  I don’t use my Airpods on the plane, because I’m afraid one 
>>> of them will fall out and I’ll never find it again.  So, I’m thinking about 
>>> investing in a good set of over-the-ear headphones, and since I’ve been 
>>> happy with my Airpods Pro, the Max are currently at the top of my list..
>>> 
>>> Anyone on the list using them? If yes, are you happy with them?  Pros? 
>>> Cons? 
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
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Re: Anyone have any experience with the Airpods Max?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Joseph,

I’m really amazed at all the positive feedback you all have posted about these 
headphones.  I’m really excited to check them out.  It’s funny, when Apple came 
out with the original Airpods, I never thought I would want over the ear 
headphones again.  I love the tiny size and the convenience of my AirPods Pro.  
But the very thing I love about them is, in my current situation, the very 
thing that keeps me from using them.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Apr 30, 2022, at 12:05 AM, joseph hudson  wrote:
> 
> Donna, very happy with them. It's one of the best purchases I've ever made 
> yet. I use them every day with my phone in my Mac.
> Joseph Hudson
> 
> Home phone
> 
> 254-698-1414
> 
> Personal cell
> 
> 254-466-1251
> EmailFaceTime/iMessage
> jhud7...@twc.com <mailto:jhud7...@twc.com>
> Technology support for the blind
> Telephone
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> 
> Emergency cell
> 
> 254-813-2461
> Skype
> joseph.hudson89 
> 
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> https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
> Twitter
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>> On Apr 29, 2022, at 6:36 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Good morning, all,
>> 
>> I’ve had the AirPods Pro for years, and in terms of performance and sound am 
>> quite happy with them.  But the left one has never really fit snugly in my 
>> ear, and because of my involvement with the clinical trial I mentioned a few 
>> weeks back, I’m going to be doing a lot of plane travel over the next 
>> several years.  I don’t use my Airpods on the plane, because I’m afraid one 
>> of them will fall out and I’ll never find it again.  So, I’m thinking about 
>> investing in a good set of over-the-ear headphones, and since I’ve been 
>> happy with my Airpods Pro, the Max are currently at the top of my list..
>> 
>> Anyone on the list using them? If yes, are you happy with them?  Pros? Cons? 
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: Anyone have any experience with the Airpods Max?

[joseph hudson]

Donna, very happy with them. It's one of the best purchases I've ever made yet. 
I use them every day with my phone in my Mac.
Joseph Hudson

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> On Apr 29, 2022, at 6:36 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Good morning, all,
> 
> I’ve had the AirPods Pro for years, and in terms of performance and sound am 
> quite happy with them.  But the left one has never really fit snugly in my 
> ear, and because of my involvement with the clinical trial I mentioned a few 
> weeks back, I’m going to be doing a lot of plane travel over the next several 
> years.  I don’t use my Airpods on the plane, because I’m afraid one of them 
> will fall out and I’ll never find it again.  So, I’m thinking about investing 
> in a good set of over-the-ear headphones, and since I’ve been happy with my 
> Airpods Pro, the Max are currently at the top of my list..
> 
> Anyone on the list using them? If yes, are you happy with them?  Pros? Cons? 
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: Anyone have any experience with the Airpods Max?

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I am very happy with mine.
They have very good sound and very robust!

It could have more base but you can change that in the eq settings.
They are a bit heavy but otherewise if you can then go for them.
/A
> 29 apr. 2022 kl. 13:36 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Good morning, all,
> 
> I’ve had the AirPods Pro for years, and in terms of performance and sound am 
> quite happy with them.  But the left one has never really fit snugly in my 
> ear, and because of my involvement with the clinical trial I mentioned a few 
> weeks back, I’m going to be doing a lot of plane travel over the next several 
> years.  I don’t use my Airpods on the plane, because I’m afraid one of them 
> will fall out and I’ll never find it again.  So, I’m thinking about investing 
> in a good set of over-the-ear headphones, and since I’ve been happy with my 
> Airpods Pro, the Max are currently at the top of my list..
> 
> Anyone on the list using them? If yes, are you happy with them?  Pros? Cons? 
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: Anyone have any experience with the Airpods Max?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Thanks, Matthew.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Apr 29, 2022, at 2:10 PM, Matthew Dyer  
> wrote:
> 
> Matthew
> 
> 
> 
> I have a pair ofthe airpods max and really love them and sound really great.  
> I use them on my apple tv sometimes and love the sound you get.
> 
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 4/29/2022 11:54 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Oh, how odd.  Thanks for the heads up.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 29, 2022, at 10:33 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The AirPod Max only works with the Lightning to 3.5 mm cable sold by Apple. 
>>> It is my understanding that third-party cables will not work with the 
>>> AirPod max.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> On Apr 29, 2022, at 10:17, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> This is really good to hear.  And thanks for the recommendation of the 
>>> cable.  I actually think I have one, but I’ll double-check to be sure.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 29, 2022, at 9:37 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> The sound quality is phenomenal. The AirPod max headphones are  worth 
>>>> every penny of what they cost. ANC and transparency mode are in a class of 
>>>> their own. The unit is a bit heavy and they are somewhat bulky for travel, 
>>>> but that's a small consideration considering the quality experience they 
>>>> provide.
>>>> If you get them, you will not be sorry you made the purchase.
>>>> I do recommend you spend the extra $40 to purchase the lightning to 3.5mm 
>>>> cable. This will allow The AirPod max to be used with a victor reader 
>>>> stream or other device that does not have Bluetooth and is outside the 
>>>> Apple verse.
>>>> 
>>>> - Brad -
>>>> 
>>>> On Apr 29, 2022, at 06:36, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Good morning, all,
>>>> 
>>>> I’ve had the AirPods Pro for years, and in terms of performance and sound 
>>>> am quite happy with them.  But the left one has never really fit snugly in 
>>>> my ear, and because of my involvement with the clinical trial I mentioned 
>>>> a few weeks back, I’m going to be doing a lot of plane travel over the 
>>>> next several years.  I don’t use my Airpods on the plane, because I’m 
>>>> afraid one of them will fall out and I’ll never find it again.  So, I’m 
>>>> thinking about investing in a good set of over-the-ear headphones, and 
>>>> since I’ve been happy with my Airpods Pro, the Max are currently at the 
>>>> top of my list..
>>>> 
>>>> Anyone on the list using them? If yes, are you happy with them?  Pros? 
>>>> Cons?
>>>> TIA,
>>>> Donna
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Re: Anyone have any experience with the Airpods Max?

[Matthew Dyer]

Matthew



I have a pair ofthe airpods max and really love them and sound really 
great.  I use them on my apple tv sometimes and love the sound you get.




Hi,




On 4/29/2022 11:54 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Oh, how odd.  Thanks for the heads up.
Cheers,
Donna



On Apr 29, 2022, at 10:33 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:

The AirPod Max only works with the Lightning to 3.5 mm cable sold by Apple. It 
is my understanding that third-party cables will not work with the AirPod max.

- Brad -

On Apr 29, 2022, at 10:17, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

This is really good to hear.  And thanks for the recommendation of the cable.  
I actually think I have one, but I’ll double-check to be sure.
Cheers,
Donna



On Apr 29, 2022, at 9:37 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:

The sound quality is phenomenal. The AirPod max headphones are  worth every 
penny of what they cost. ANC and transparency mode are in a class of their own. 
The unit is a bit heavy and they are somewhat bulky for travel, but that's a 
small consideration considering the quality experience they provide.
If you get them, you will not be sorry you made the purchase.
I do recommend you spend the extra $40 to purchase the lightning to 3.5mm 
cable. This will allow The AirPod max to be used with a victor reader stream or 
other device that does not have Bluetooth and is outside the Apple verse.

- Brad -

On Apr 29, 2022, at 06:36, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Good morning, all,

I’ve had the AirPods Pro for years, and in terms of performance and sound am 
quite happy with them.  But the left one has never really fit snugly in my ear, 
and because of my involvement with the clinical trial I mentioned a few weeks 
back, I’m going to be doing a lot of plane travel over the next several years.  
I don’t use my Airpods on the plane, because I’m afraid one of them will fall 
out and I’ll never find it again.  So, I’m thinking about investing in a good 
set of over-the-ear headphones, and since I’ve been happy with my Airpods Pro, 
the Max are currently at the top of my list..

Anyone on the list using them? If yes, are you happy with them?  Pros? Cons?
TIA,
Donna

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Re: Anyone have any experience with the Airpods Max?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Oh, how odd.  Thanks for the heads up.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Apr 29, 2022, at 10:33 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> The AirPod Max only works with the Lightning to 3.5 mm cable sold by Apple. 
> It is my understanding that third-party cables will not work with the AirPod 
> max.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Apr 29, 2022, at 10:17, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> This is really good to hear.  And thanks for the recommendation of the 
> cable.  I actually think I have one, but I’ll double-check to be sure.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Apr 29, 2022, at 9:37 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> The sound quality is phenomenal. The AirPod max headphones are  worth every 
>> penny of what they cost. ANC and transparency mode are in a class of their 
>> own. The unit is a bit heavy and they are somewhat bulky for travel, but 
>> that's a small consideration considering the quality experience they provide.
>> If you get them, you will not be sorry you made the purchase.
>> I do recommend you spend the extra $40 to purchase the lightning to 3.5mm 
>> cable. This will allow The AirPod max to be used with a victor reader stream 
>> or other device that does not have Bluetooth and is outside the Apple verse.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> On Apr 29, 2022, at 06:36, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Good morning, all,
>> 
>> I’ve had the AirPods Pro for years, and in terms of performance and sound am 
>> quite happy with them.  But the left one has never really fit snugly in my 
>> ear, and because of my involvement with the clinical trial I mentioned a few 
>> weeks back, I’m going to be doing a lot of plane travel over the next 
>> several years.  I don’t use my Airpods on the plane, because I’m afraid one 
>> of them will fall out and I’ll never find it again.  So, I’m thinking about 
>> investing in a good set of over-the-ear headphones, and since I’ve been 
>> happy with my Airpods Pro, the Max are currently at the top of my list..
>> 
>> Anyone on the list using them? If yes, are you happy with them?  Pros? Cons? 
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: Anyone have any experience with the Airpods Max?

[Brad Snyder]

The AirPod Max only works with the Lightning to 3.5 mm cable sold by Apple. It 
is my understanding that third-party cables will not work with the AirPod max.

- Brad -

On Apr 29, 2022, at 10:17, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

This is really good to hear.  And thanks for the recommendation of the cable.  
I actually think I have one, but I’ll double-check to be sure.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Apr 29, 2022, at 9:37 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> The sound quality is phenomenal. The AirPod max headphones are  worth every 
> penny of what they cost. ANC and transparency mode are in a class of their 
> own. The unit is a bit heavy and they are somewhat bulky for travel, but 
> that's a small consideration considering the quality experience they provide.
> If you get them, you will not be sorry you made the purchase.
> I do recommend you spend the extra $40 to purchase the lightning to 3.5mm 
> cable. This will allow The AirPod max to be used with a victor reader stream 
> or other device that does not have Bluetooth and is outside the Apple verse.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Apr 29, 2022, at 06:36, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Good morning, all,
> 
> I’ve had the AirPods Pro for years, and in terms of performance and sound am 
> quite happy with them.  But the left one has never really fit snugly in my 
> ear, and because of my involvement with the clinical trial I mentioned a few 
> weeks back, I’m going to be doing a lot of plane travel over the next several 
> years.  I don’t use my Airpods on the plane, because I’m afraid one of them 
> will fall out and I’ll never find it again.  So, I’m thinking about investing 
> in a good set of over-the-ear headphones, and since I’ve been happy with my 
> Airpods Pro, the Max are currently at the top of my list..
> 
> Anyone on the list using them? If yes, are you happy with them?  Pros? Cons? 
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: Anyone have any experience with the Airpods Max?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

This is really good to hear.  And thanks for the recommendation of the cable.  
I actually think I have one, but I’ll double-check to be sure.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Apr 29, 2022, at 9:37 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> The sound quality is phenomenal. The AirPod max headphones are  worth every 
> penny of what they cost. ANC and transparency mode are in a class of their 
> own. The unit is a bit heavy and they are somewhat bulky for travel, but 
> that's a small consideration considering the quality experience they provide.
> If you get them, you will not be sorry you made the purchase.
> I do recommend you spend the extra $40 to purchase the lightning to 3.5mm 
> cable. This will allow The AirPod max to be used with a victor reader stream 
> or other device that does not have Bluetooth and is outside the Apple verse.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Apr 29, 2022, at 06:36, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Good morning, all,
> 
> I’ve had the AirPods Pro for years, and in terms of performance and sound am 
> quite happy with them.  But the left one has never really fit snugly in my 
> ear, and because of my involvement with the clinical trial I mentioned a few 
> weeks back, I’m going to be doing a lot of plane travel over the next several 
> years.  I don’t use my Airpods on the plane, because I’m afraid one of them 
> will fall out and I’ll never find it again.  So, I’m thinking about investing 
> in a good set of over-the-ear headphones, and since I’ve been happy with my 
> Airpods Pro, the Max are currently at the top of my list..
> 
> Anyone on the list using them? If yes, are you happy with them?  Pros? Cons? 
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: Anyone have any experience with the Airpods Max?

[Brad Snyder]

The sound quality is phenomenal. The AirPod max headphones are  worth every 
penny of what they cost. ANC and transparency mode are in a class of their own. 
The unit is a bit heavy and they are somewhat bulky for travel, but that's a 
small consideration considering the quality experience they provide.
If you get them, you will not be sorry you made the purchase.
I do recommend you spend the extra $40 to purchase the lightning to 3.5mm 
cable. This will allow The AirPod max to be used with a victor reader stream or 
other device that does not have Bluetooth and is outside the Apple verse.

- Brad -

On Apr 29, 2022, at 06:36, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Good morning, all,

I’ve had the AirPods Pro for years, and in terms of performance and sound am 
quite happy with them.  But the left one has never really fit snugly in my ear, 
and because of my involvement with the clinical trial I mentioned a few weeks 
back, I’m going to be doing a lot of plane travel over the next several years.  
I don’t use my Airpods on the plane, because I’m afraid one of them will fall 
out and I’ll never find it again.  So, I’m thinking about investing in a good 
set of over-the-ear headphones, and since I’ve been happy with my Airpods Pro, 
the Max are currently at the top of my list..

Anyone on the list using them? If yes, are you happy with them?  Pros? Cons? 
TIA,
Donna

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Re: Anyone have any experience with the Airpods Max?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Wow!  What an enthusiastic response!  Thanks so much!  I will pick up a pair 
this weekend!  The plane trips are very long, so it’ll be really nice to have 
good headphones to use.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Apr 29, 2022, at 8:06 AM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
> 
> Yes, they are great! By all means get a a pair! They’ll blow your AirPods Pro 
> out of the water sound quality wise!
> 
>> On Apr 29, 2022, at 06:36, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Good morning, all,
>> 
>> I’ve had the AirPods Pro for years, and in terms of performance and sound am 
>> quite happy with them.  But the left one has never really fit snugly in my 
>> ear, and because of my involvement with the clinical trial I mentioned a few 
>> weeks back, I’m going to be doing a lot of plane travel over the next 
>> several years.  I don’t use my Airpods on the plane, because I’m afraid one 
>> of them will fall out and I’ll never find it again.  So, I’m thinking about 
>> investing in a good set of over-the-ear headphones, and since I’ve been 
>> happy with my Airpods Pro, the Max are currently at the top of my list..
>> 
>> Anyone on the list using them? If yes, are you happy with them?  Pros? Cons? 
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: Anyone have any experience with the Airpods Max?

[Herbie Allen]

Yes, they are great! By all means get a a pair! They’ll blow your AirPods Pro 
out of the water sound quality wise!

> On Apr 29, 2022, at 06:36, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Good morning, all,
> 
> I’ve had the AirPods Pro for years, and in terms of performance and sound am 
> quite happy with them.  But the left one has never really fit snugly in my 
> ear, and because of my involvement with the clinical trial I mentioned a few 
> weeks back, I’m going to be doing a lot of plane travel over the next several 
> years.  I don’t use my Airpods on the plane, because I’m afraid one of them 
> will fall out and I’ll never find it again.  So, I’m thinking about investing 
> in a good set of over-the-ear headphones, and since I’ve been happy with my 
> Airpods Pro, the Max are currently at the top of my list..
> 
> Anyone on the list using them? If yes, are you happy with them?  Pros? Cons? 
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: Anyone have any experience with the Airpods Max?

[joseph hodge]

I love mine as well! They have a great sound and are some of my favorite noise 
canceling headphones! The build is just outstanding. I do wish Apple had made a 
better case for them I ended up buying a hardshow case on Amazon for them but 
ultimately they're a great pair of headphones! The ability to switch from my 
iPhone to my Apple TV seamlessly is awesome as well! My only other complaint I 
guess would be that they didn't put a power button which means there is some 
battery drain overtime and it's unpredictable what that will be! That's where I 
kind of get annoyed the most with these but you can charge and listen at the 
same time if you forgot to put them on a charger.

> On Apr 29, 2022, at 7:53 AM, Pete Nalda  wrote:
> 
> Oh God yes!  Are used to take pictures of myself wearing them! Then somebody 
> said you should not be walking around town with those on your head! But 
> believe me the ambience is so good in ambience mode that you can hear 
> everything it’s like immersive hearing aids with music in the background but 
> but yeah I would probably be better off taking those off when I cross the 
> street but I was that bad I’ll have them on all the time. All that said, I 
> think they would be great to fly with, with one caveat they are heavy! And a 
> bit bulky too, but I still love them.
> 
> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
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>> On Apr 29, 2022, at 6:36 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Good morning, all,
>> 
>> I’ve had the AirPods Pro for years, and in terms of performance and sound am 
>> quite happy with them.  But the left one has never really fit snugly in my 
>> ear, and because of my involvement with the clinical trial I mentioned a few 
>> weeks back, I’m going to be doing a lot of plane travel over the next 
>> several years.  I don’t use my Airpods on the plane, because I’m afraid one 
>> of them will fall out and I’ll never find it again.  So, I’m thinking about 
>> investing in a good set of over-the-ear headphones, and since I’ve been 
>> happy with my Airpods Pro, the Max are currently at the top of my list..
>> 
>> Anyone on the list using them? If yes, are you happy with them?  Pros? Cons? 
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: Anyone have any experience with the Airpods Max?

[Pete Nalda]

Oh God yes!  Are used to take pictures of myself wearing them! Then somebody 
said you should not be walking around town with those on your head! But believe 
me the ambience is so good in ambience mode that you can hear everything it’s 
like immersive hearing aids with music in the background but but yeah I would 
probably be better off taking those off when I cross the street but I was that 
bad I’ll have them on all the time. All that said, I think they would be great 
to fly with, with one caveat they are heavy! And a bit bulky too, but I still 
love them.

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
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> On Apr 29, 2022, at 6:36 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> Good morning, all,
> 
> I’ve had the AirPods Pro for years, and in terms of performance and sound am 
> quite happy with them.  But the left one has never really fit snugly in my 
> ear, and because of my involvement with the clinical trial I mentioned a few 
> weeks back, I’m going to be doing a lot of plane travel over the next several 
> years.  I don’t use my Airpods on the plane, because I’m afraid one of them 
> will fall out and I’ll never find it again.  So, I’m thinking about investing 
> in a good set of over-the-ear headphones, and since I’ve been happy with my 
> Airpods Pro, the Max are currently at the top of my list..
> 
> Anyone on the list using them? If yes, are you happy with them?  Pros? Cons? 
> TIA,
> Donna
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Anyone have any experience with the Airpods Max?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Good morning, all,

I’ve had the AirPods Pro for years, and in terms of performance and sound am 
quite happy with them.  But the left one has never really fit snugly in my ear, 
and because of my involvement with the clinical trial I mentioned a few weeks 
back, I’m going to be doing a lot of plane travel over the next several years.  
I don’t use my Airpods on the plane, because I’m afraid one of them will fall 
out and I’ll never find it again.  So, I’m thinking about investing in a good 
set of over-the-ear headphones, and since I’ve been happy with my Airpods Pro, 
the Max are currently at the top of my list..

Anyone on the list using them? If yes, are you happy with them?  Pros? Cons? 
TIA,
Donna

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Re: Extremely Rapid Battery Drain on AirPods Pro, within the last Two Weeks, Why?

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I don’t know really.
But there might be something wrong with the battery in them.
Mine seem to work great but I will do the test you did with your.
/A

> 22 dec. 2021 kl. 14:26 skrev M. Taylor :
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I purchased my AirPods Pro last December.  Since then, I have had nothing
> but excellent service from them, including standby battery life.
> 
> However, and I'm not certain when this happened, within the last two weeks
> to be sure, all of a sudden, almost every time I go to use my AirPods Pro,
> when out-and-about, I find that they are completely drained of battery life
> even though I have not used them since charging, a day or 2 prior.  
> 
> I have performed all of the Apple-recommended procedures including resetting
> the battery case, and removing the set from my account.  Nothing seems to
> help.
> 
> Last night, I had a friend come over with her AirPods Pro and we made
> certain to charge them both to 100%.  Then, we simply let each set sit on a
> table for about 20 minutes, essentially in standby mode.  It should be noted
> that the AirPods were not actively connected to either of our iPhones.
> 
> She has iPhone 11 and I have my beloved 8 Plus; however we were both running
> the same version of iOS.
> 
> When we checked the battery status on both units, hers was virtually the
> same as it was just after charging while my battery case had lost 10% of
> it's battery life; also, both of my AirPods Pro earpieces seemed to be
> sucking up the proverbial juice, even faster.  
> 
> Again, leaving the units on the table, after checking battery life, 2 more
> times at 20 minute intervals, it was clear that my set was losing battery
> power almost three times more rapidly than her set.
> 
> So, as my AirPods Pro are covered by Apple Care Plus, I will take them into
> the store and see what they have to say.
> 
> I canvased a few other acquaintances (about 5 people in all) on this issue
> they, too, are all experiencing  the same rapid battery loss on their
> AirPods Pro sets.
> 
> If anyone has any ideas on how to resolve this seemingly out-of-the-blue
> problem, by all means, chime in.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Mark
> 
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RE: Extremely Rapid Battery Drain on AirPods Pro, within the last Two Weeks, Why?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone, 

Okay, I took my AirPods Pro into Apple and, after running a diagnostic test (or 
two), it was determined that I have a defective wireless charging case.  As I 
have Apple Care Plus, they are going to replace the charging case at no 
additional cost.  They had to order a replacement case as they had none in 
stock.

So, if you are experiencing a similar problem, I strongly encourage you to take 
your AirPods into Apple or an authorized retailer.

Mark

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Subject: Extremely Rapid Battery Drain on AirPods Pro, within the last Two 
Weeks, Why?

Hello All,

I purchased my AirPods Pro last December.  Since then, I have had nothing but 
excellent service from them, including standby battery life.

However, and I'm not certain when this happened, within the last two weeks to 
be sure, all of a sudden, almost every time I go to use my AirPods Pro, when 
out-and-about, I find that they are completely drained of battery life even 
though I have not used them since charging, a day or 2 prior.  

I have performed all of the Apple-recommended procedures including resetting 
the battery case, and removing the set from my account.  Nothing seems to help.

Last night, I had a friend come over with her AirPods Pro and we made certain 
to charge them both to 100%.  Then, we simply let each set sit on a table for 
about 20 minutes, essentially in standby mode.  It should be noted that the 
AirPods were not actively connected to either of our iPhones.

She has iPhone 11 and I have my beloved 8 Plus; however we were both running 
the same version of iOS.

When we checked the battery status on both units, hers was virtually the same 
as it was just after charging while my battery case had lost 10% of it's 
battery life; also, both of my AirPods Pro earpieces seemed to be sucking up 
the proverbial juice, even faster.  

Again, leaving the units on the table, after checking battery life, 2 more 
times at 20 minute intervals, it was clear that my set was losing battery power 
almost three times more rapidly than her set.

So, as my AirPods Pro are covered by Apple Care Plus, I will take them into the 
store and see what they have to say.

I canvased a few other acquaintances (about 5 people in all) on this issue 
they, too, are all experiencing  the same rapid battery loss on their AirPods 
Pro sets.

If anyone has any ideas on how to resolve this seemingly out-of-the-blue 
problem, by all means, chime in.

Thank you,

Mark


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Re: Extremely Rapid Battery Drain on AirPods Pro, within the last Two Weeks, Why?

[Brad Snyder]

Information on AirPod firmware can be found by doing the following:
1.  Place your AirPods, AirPods Pro, or AirPods Max in your ears/or on your 
head, and make sure they are connected to your iPhone or iPad.
2.  Go to Settings > General > About.
3.  Swipe right, until you locate your AirPods/AirPods Pro/AirPods Max, and do 
a 1-finger double tap, to open up device information, including firmware 
version and more..

HTH.

- Brad -



> On Dec 22, 2021, at 17:52, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> I wonder if there is a difference in Firmware versions? I believe you check 
> that in bluetooth system preferences.
> Jonathan 
>  
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 22, 2021, at 14:51, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> No problems of that sort here.  I will double check though to see if I’m 
>> just not paying close enough attention to battery drain.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Dec 22, 2021, at 06:26, M. Taylor >> <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello All,
>>> 
>>> I purchased my AirPods Pro last December.  Since then, I have had nothing
>>> but excellent service from them, including standby battery life.
>>> 
>>> However, and I'm not certain when this happened, within the last two weeks
>>> to be sure, all of a sudden, almost every time I go to use my AirPods Pro,
>>> when out-and-about, I find that they are completely drained of battery life
>>> even though I have not used them since charging, a day or 2 prior.  
>>> 
>>> I have performed all of the Apple-recommended procedures including resetting
>>> the battery case, and removing the set from my account.  Nothing seems to
>>> help.
>>> 
>>> Last night, I had a friend come over with her AirPods Pro and we made
>>> certain to charge them both to 100%.  Then, we simply let each set sit on a
>>> table for about 20 minutes, essentially in standby mode.  It should be noted
>>> that the AirPods were not actively connected to either of our iPhones.
>>> 
>>> She has iPhone 11 and I have my beloved 8 Plus; however we were both running
>>> the same version of iOS.
>>> 
>>> When we checked the battery status on both units, hers was virtually the
>>> same as it was just after charging while my battery case had lost 10% of
>>> it's battery life; also, both of my AirPods Pro earpieces seemed to be
>>> sucking up the proverbial juice, even faster.  
>>> 
>>> Again, leaving the units on the table, after checking battery life, 2 more
>>> times at 20 minute intervals, it was clear that my set was losing battery
>>> power almost three times more rapidly than her set.
>>> 
>>> So, as my AirPods Pro are covered by Apple Care Plus, I will take them into
>>> the store and see what they have to say.
>>> 
>>> I canvased a few other acquaintances (about 5 people in all) on this issue
>>> they, too, are all experiencing  the same rapid battery loss on their
>>> AirPods Pro sets.
>>> 
>>> If anyone has any ideas on how to resolve this seemingly out-of-the-blue
>>> problem, by all means, chime in.
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
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Re: Extremely Rapid Battery Drain on AirPods Pro, within the last Two Weeks, Why?

[Jonathan Cohn]

I wonder if there is a difference in Firmware versions? I believe you check 
that in bluetooth system preferences.
Jonathan 
 
Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Dec 22, 2021, at 14:51, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> No problems of that sort here.  I will double check though to see if I’m just 
> not paying close enough attention to battery drain.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Dec 22, 2021, at 06:26, M. Taylor > <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> I purchased my AirPods Pro last December.  Since then, I have had nothing
>> but excellent service from them, including standby battery life.
>> 
>> However, and I'm not certain when this happened, within the last two weeks
>> to be sure, all of a sudden, almost every time I go to use my AirPods Pro,
>> when out-and-about, I find that they are completely drained of battery life
>> even though I have not used them since charging, a day or 2 prior.  
>> 
>> I have performed all of the Apple-recommended procedures including resetting
>> the battery case, and removing the set from my account.  Nothing seems to
>> help.
>> 
>> Last night, I had a friend come over with her AirPods Pro and we made
>> certain to charge them both to 100%.  Then, we simply let each set sit on a
>> table for about 20 minutes, essentially in standby mode.  It should be noted
>> that the AirPods were not actively connected to either of our iPhones.
>> 
>> She has iPhone 11 and I have my beloved 8 Plus; however we were both running
>> the same version of iOS.
>> 
>> When we checked the battery status on both units, hers was virtually the
>> same as it was just after charging while my battery case had lost 10% of
>> it's battery life; also, both of my AirPods Pro earpieces seemed to be
>> sucking up the proverbial juice, even faster.  
>> 
>> Again, leaving the units on the table, after checking battery life, 2 more
>> times at 20 minute intervals, it was clear that my set was losing battery
>> power almost three times more rapidly than her set.
>> 
>> So, as my AirPods Pro are covered by Apple Care Plus, I will take them into
>> the store and see what they have to say.
>> 
>> I canvased a few other acquaintances (about 5 people in all) on this issue
>> they, too, are all experiencing  the same rapid battery loss on their
>> AirPods Pro sets.
>> 
>> If anyone has any ideas on how to resolve this seemingly out-of-the-blue
>> problem, by all means, chime in.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
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Re: Extremely Rapid Battery Drain on AirPods Pro, within the last Two Weeks, Why?

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

No problems of that sort here.  I will double check though to see if I’m just 
not paying close enough attention to battery drain.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Dec 22, 2021, at 06:26, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I purchased my AirPods Pro last December.  Since then, I have had nothing
> but excellent service from them, including standby battery life.
> 
> However, and I'm not certain when this happened, within the last two weeks
> to be sure, all of a sudden, almost every time I go to use my AirPods Pro,
> when out-and-about, I find that they are completely drained of battery life
> even though I have not used them since charging, a day or 2 prior.  
> 
> I have performed all of the Apple-recommended procedures including resetting
> the battery case, and removing the set from my account.  Nothing seems to
> help.
> 
> Last night, I had a friend come over with her AirPods Pro and we made
> certain to charge them both to 100%.  Then, we simply let each set sit on a
> table for about 20 minutes, essentially in standby mode.  It should be noted
> that the AirPods were not actively connected to either of our iPhones.
> 
> She has iPhone 11 and I have my beloved 8 Plus; however we were both running
> the same version of iOS.
> 
> When we checked the battery status on both units, hers was virtually the
> same as it was just after charging while my battery case had lost 10% of
> it's battery life; also, both of my AirPods Pro earpieces seemed to be
> sucking up the proverbial juice, even faster.  
> 
> Again, leaving the units on the table, after checking battery life, 2 more
> times at 20 minute intervals, it was clear that my set was losing battery
> power almost three times more rapidly than her set.
> 
> So, as my AirPods Pro are covered by Apple Care Plus, I will take them into
> the store and see what they have to say.
> 
> I canvased a few other acquaintances (about 5 people in all) on this issue
> they, too, are all experiencing  the same rapid battery loss on their
> AirPods Pro sets.
> 
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Extremely Rapid Battery Drain on AirPods Pro, within the last Two Weeks, Why?

[M. Taylor]

Hello All,

I purchased my AirPods Pro last December.  Since then, I have had nothing
but excellent service from them, including standby battery life.

However, and I'm not certain when this happened, within the last two weeks
to be sure, all of a sudden, almost every time I go to use my AirPods Pro,
when out-and-about, I find that they are completely drained of battery life
even though I have not used them since charging, a day or 2 prior.  

I have performed all of the Apple-recommended procedures including resetting
the battery case, and removing the set from my account.  Nothing seems to
help.

Last night, I had a friend come over with her AirPods Pro and we made
certain to charge them both to 100%.  Then, we simply let each set sit on a
table for about 20 minutes, essentially in standby mode.  It should be noted
that the AirPods were not actively connected to either of our iPhones.

She has iPhone 11 and I have my beloved 8 Plus; however we were both running
the same version of iOS.

When we checked the battery status on both units, hers was virtually the
same as it was just after charging while my battery case had lost 10% of
it's battery life; also, both of my AirPods Pro earpieces seemed to be
sucking up the proverbial juice, even faster.  

Again, leaving the units on the table, after checking battery life, 2 more
times at 20 minute intervals, it was clear that my set was losing battery
power almost three times more rapidly than her set.

So, as my AirPods Pro are covered by Apple Care Plus, I will take them into
the store and see what they have to say.

I canvased a few other acquaintances (about 5 people in all) on this issue
they, too, are all experiencing  the same rapid battery loss on their
AirPods Pro sets.

If anyone has any ideas on how to resolve this seemingly out-of-the-blue
problem, by all means, chime in.

Thank you,

Mark


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Re: Spatial Audio with AirPods, Not So Much

[Herbie Allen]

Yes, you will have a much better experience with movies, and Apple Music if 
tracks encoded in Doby audio if you have that ap. They also implemented the 
feature for bard which I find a little odd.

> On Dec 12, 2021, at 16:32, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> So, in order to pair my new Apple watch series 7 to my beloved 8 Plus, I had
> to update from iOS 14.8 to iOS 15.1.  I did this on Friday.
> 
> Today, while listening to an audiobook on Over Drive via my wired EarPods, I
> decided to take my AirPods Pro for a spin, for the first time, with the
> latest OS.
> 
> Well, as soon as I resumed the Over Drive audio playback via AirPods Pro, I
> noticed a tremendously different type of sound coming through AirPods.  It
> only took me a moment to realize that this must be the new Spatial audio
> feature that I have been reading about.
> 
> I listened for about 10 minutes or so, then enabled the head-tracking
> feature to see how it sounded; not bad, accept... 
> 
> I disabled the spatial audio feature after about 15 minutes of listening.
> 
> I don't know, there was something about it that I just didn't like, with
> regard to audiobook playback, anyway.
> 
> I might like it when I watch a movie on my Apple TV or my iPad; perhaps the
> visual input in combination with spatial audio will make the experience seem
> less jarring, somehow, I don't know.
> 
> For now, however, I think I will continue to use the stereo, only, playback
> option when listening to audiobooks.
> 
> Just thought I would share my first listening experience with spatial audio.
> 
> Mark  
> 
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Spatial Audio with AirPods, Not So Much

[M. Taylor]

Hello All,

So, in order to pair my new Apple watch series 7 to my beloved 8 Plus, I had
to update from iOS 14.8 to iOS 15.1.  I did this on Friday.

Today, while listening to an audiobook on Over Drive via my wired EarPods, I
decided to take my AirPods Pro for a spin, for the first time, with the
latest OS.

Well, as soon as I resumed the Over Drive audio playback via AirPods Pro, I
noticed a tremendously different type of sound coming through AirPods.  It
only took me a moment to realize that this must be the new Spatial audio
feature that I have been reading about.

I listened for about 10 minutes or so, then enabled the head-tracking
feature to see how it sounded; not bad, accept... 

I disabled the spatial audio feature after about 15 minutes of listening.

I don't know, there was something about it that I just didn't like, with
regard to audiobook playback, anyway.

I might like it when I watch a movie on my Apple TV or my iPad; perhaps the
visual input in combination with spatial audio will make the experience seem
less jarring, somehow, I don't know.

For now, however, I think I will continue to use the stereo, only, playback
option when listening to audiobooks.

Just thought I would share my first listening experience with spatial audio.

Mark  


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Apple AirPods Pro vs Beats Fit Pro - Reviewed

[Kliph]

>> Lee Neikirk <https://www.reviewed.com/authors/lee-neikirk>Updated November 
>> 5, 2021
>> 
>> Recommendations are independently chosen by Reviewed’s editors. Purchases 
>> you make through our links may earn us a commission.
>> 
>> 
>> Beats recently launched what are arguably the company’s most exciting pair 
>> of true wireless earbuds yet: the Beats Fit Pro 
>> <https://www.reviewed.com/headphones/content/beats-fit-pro-earbuds-review>. 
>> These buds present a high-value package for the price, not least of all 
>> because they so handily emulate the Apple AirPods Pro 
>> <https://www.reviewed.com/headphones/content/apple-airpods-pro-review-the-best-wireless-earbuds-yet>,
>>  generally regarded as the best earbuds for pairing with an iPhone.
>> 
>> You might know where this is going: After careful evaluation, we’re 
>> impressed enough with the Beats Fit Pro that we don’t just think these true 
>> wireless buds successfully emulate the AirPods Pro—for many folks they might 
>> just be the superior choice. So what else could we do but put these two 
>> mighty true wireless options head-to-head to see which is best? Let’s find 
>> out.
>> 
>> Get the Beats Fit Pro from Amazon 
>> <https://www.amazon.com/Beats-Fit-Pro-Cancelling-Built/dp/B09JL41N9C?ots=1=rvwfeature-20>
>> Get the Apple AirPods Pro from Amazon 
>> <https://www.amazon.com/Apple-MWP22AM-A-AirPods-Pro/dp/B07ZPC9QD4?ots=1=rvwfeature-20>
>> Price
>> 
>> 
>> Credit: Reviewed / Lee Neikirk
>> Not sure which buds to give your dollars to?
>> Price tends to be the easiest comparison to make, and while that’s still 
>> generally true here, there are a few considerations to take into account. 
>> For example, the AirPods Pro originally launched in 2019 at an MSRP of $249, 
>> but you can often find them on sale well below the $200 mark.
>> 
>> ADVERTISEMENT
>> The Beats Fit Pro launched on November 1st, 2021 at an MSRP of $199. They’re 
>> certainly the cheaper of the two from an MSRP perspective, but it’s also 
>> unlikely we’ll see similar price drops for the Fit Pro for a while 
>> considering how much newer they are.
>> 
>> Without the advantage of sales during holiday season, however, the AirPods 
>> Pro are often pricier than $200, and that's may be even more likely as they 
>> transition to a newer version that tacks on MagSafe wireless charging. As 
>> such, we’ve got to give this one to the Beats.
>> 
>> Our pick: Beats Fit Pro
>> 
>> Fit and design
>> 
>> The AirPods Pro went a long way to fixing some of the issues we took with 
>> the original AirPods, not least of which was to drastically improve the 
>> general level of comfort thanks to their magnetic ear tips.
>> 
>> Related content
>> 
>> Yet they also continue to use Apple’s “semi-open fit” design, which means 
>> that despite replacing the plastic shell of the original AirPods with an 
>> ear-tipped design that fits comfortably and snugly into most ear canals, 
>> they still fit a bit loosely in the outer ear.
>> 
>> Some folks love this design—and swear by it—but to my ears, the AirPods Pro 
>> always feel like they might jump ship unexpectedly, especially during a 
>> workout or any kind of vigorous activity.
>> 
>> 
>> Credit: Reviewed / Lee Neikirk
>> Design and fit are one major way these true wireless buds differ.
>> The Beats Fit Pro take a different approach: They’re not just fitted with 
>> traditional ear tips, they also have a stabilizing wing that fits snugly 
>> into the outer ear. This is in place of the clunkier (but very stable) ear 
>> hooks that defined previous Beats buds like the Powerbeats and Powerbeats 
>> Pro 
>> <https://www.reviewed.com/headphones/features/beats-powerbeats-vs-powerbeats-pro>.
>>  The wing design isn’t a new thing for true wireless earbuds, but if most of 
>> your experience revolves around AirPods, it’s a notable change in fit and 
>> feel to be sure.
>> 
>> ADVERTISEMENT
>> In terms of waterproofing, the AirPods Pro and Beats Fit Pro are essentially 
>> identical: both offer an IPX4 Ingress Protection rating 
>> <https://www.reviewed.com/headphones/features/what-do-waterproof-and-water-resistant-really-mean>,
>>  which translates to “water splashes over 5-10 minutes have no harmful 
>> effect.” That means you can work out with either pair of buds, but probably 
>> shouldn’t rinse them off in the sink afterward.
>> 
>> Finally, what about weight? The AirPods Pro clock in at 5.4 gr

Re: Question re Zoom and AirPods Pro

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hey, Tim,

I realized this morning how very back-logged I am responding to email.  I just 
wanted to say thanks for this.  I will give it a go the next time I’m trying to 
use Zoom with my AirPods.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Oct 11, 2021, at 5:51 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> By default, Zoom will go to “Same as System” for both the mic audio in and 
> audio out signals, unless you’ve previously set otherwise.  On the main Zoom 
> screen, you should find an “Audio Options” menu button.  Vo-space on that and 
> you can specifically choose your input and output devices.  If the AirPods 
> are not being chose automatically, then choose them from this menu.
> 
> I’ve found, like Jonathan mentioned, that things sound much better if the 
> AirPods are not both input and output.  There’s nothing inherently wrong with 
> the configuration, it just doesn’t sound as good.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Oct 11, 2021, at 2:34 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Brad,
>> 
>> Sounds like a good plan.  Like I said, I was in a hurry, and since I’d used 
>> chorded headphones before with no issues, I didn’t really give too much 
>> thought to the order of things.  But I will pay more attention next time.  
>> I’m just relieved to know this isn’t an unresolvable issue.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 11, 2021, at 3:02 PM, Brad Snyder >> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have experienced similar Zoom issues when changing audio devices.
>>> I suggest you first insert your AirPods, or whatever headset or audio 
>>> device you wish to use with Zoom, then open Zoom preferences (CMD + comma), 
>>> select Audio from the categories table, and then make sure your desired 
>>> device is selected for both output and input.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 11, 2021, at 14:51, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don’t remember.  I was late for the meeting, so I did everything very 
>>> quickly.  I’m glad to hear it worked for you.  Next time, I’ll make sure I 
>>> connect the AirPods first.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 11, 2021, at 2:34 PM, josephlho...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:josephlho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> By chance did you connect to zoom then connect the airpods? I haven’t done 
>>>> this in a while but I had to connect the airpods first then launch the 
>>>> zoom meeting and it worked fine.
>>>>  
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
>>>> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 3:29 PM
>>>> To: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
>>>> Subject: Re: Question re Zoom and AirPods Pro
>>>>  
>>>>  I believe I heard that if you put the microphone input to the Mac instead 
>>>> of the bluetooth headphones, that sound output works better. Something 
>>>> about phone vs audio bluetooth profiles if I remember correctly.
>>>> HTH!
>>>> Jonathan Cohn
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 11, 2021, at 15:10, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>> >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I just tried to use my AirPods Pro for a Zoom meeting.  When they 
>>>>> connected, Voiceover came through the AirPods, but the content of the 
>>>>> Zoom meeting came out the speaker of my MBA.  I use hard-wired headphones 
>>>>> all the time in Zoom and have never had this issue.  Does anyone know of 
>>>>> a way to use AirPods in a Zoom meeting and have all the audio come 
>>>>> through the headphones?
>>>>> TIA,
>>>>> Donna
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Re: AirPods Pro from Voiceover user prospective

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

>From an Apple ecosystem prospective, they are a very nice sounding, easy to 
>use, reliable set of headphones.  Apple will tout all sorts of benefits and 
>such, but it is a personal use case and personal preference purchase.  I do 
>like the options that they offer including easy integration with my Apple 
>devices and Apple ID, the Find My integration, great configurable audio range, 
>good noise cancellation and great transparency configuration.  They certainly 
>are not perfect, and are not cheap from a financial point of view, but I 
>believe that they are an excellent product.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Oct 14, 2021, at 9:42 AM, Muhammad Fayed  wrote:
> 
> Unfortunately I don’t know an AirPods Pro owner.
> 
> I’m doing my best in getting detailed user experiences to shape my opinion 
> about it. It works with me most of the time as long as I make sure that I’m 
> specific about features I want and find enough resources that are not biased 
> to assess the quality.
> 
> Hope me good luck with it.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mohamed E. Fayed  
> 
>> On 14 Oct 2021, at 2:52 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, Muhammad,
>> 
>> I’m not a fan of high base either.  I also completely understand you wanting 
>> to make sure you’ll use them.  Do you know anyone who has a pair?  Perhaps 
>> they could let you listen to theirs?  I often find that’s the best way to 
>> evaluate things like headphones, where personal preference plays such an 
>> important role.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Oct 14, 2021, at 7:46 AM, Muhammad Fayed >> <mailto:m10fa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yes, you’re right.
>>> 
>>> I would ask this question also to anyone who has AirPods Pro and try to 
>>> extract as much info as I can. 
>>> 
>>> According to me, I prefer the quiet areas and low levels of volume. I 
>>> actually don’t like high levels of base in whatever I hear. They do make me 
>>> headache during 5 or 10 minutes.
>>> 
>>> I do ask a lot about it since I want to make sure that I will use it and 
>>> not sell it a day or two after getting it. I want to make sure that its 
>>> technology is mature enough to rely on in my case.
>>> 
>>> Just hope I could find a good solution as near as possible since it will 
>>> change many decisions in my life and work environment.
>>> 
>>> Thank you so much for your replies. They were useful to me. 
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Mohamed E. Fayed 
>>> 
>>>> On 14 Oct 2021, at 2:27 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Mohamed,
>>>> 
>>>> Interesting question. This is just a guess, because of course there is an 
>>>> element of subjectivity here, e.g. your preferred volume level, the noise 
>>>> level of the vehicle on which you are traveling, how loudly your 
>>>> colleagues are speaking, etc. But I wouldn’t think you would have to 
>>>> increase it by more than a level or two.  Honestly, I’m always amazed by 
>>>> how well the noise cancellation on the Airpods does work, given that they 
>>>> are in the ear headphones.  But if you get them, do take the time to fit 
>>>> them properly to your ears, as doing that makes a difference.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Donna
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 14, 2021, at 5:56 AM, Muhammad Fayed >>>> <mailto:m10fa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you so much for your replies. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> My use case for it is to hear whatever podcast/videos while being in 
>>>>> transportation and cancel the audio of colleagues near me talking in work 
>>>>> time. I wonder how many audio levels, while noise cancellation is on, you 
>>>>> need to increase to be able to hear either Voiceover or a podcast playing 
>>>>> on the AirPods Pro?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you so much, 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mohamed E. Fayed 
>>>>> 
>>&g

Re: AirPods Pro from Voiceover user prospective

[Muhammad Fayed]

Unfortunately I don’t know an AirPods Pro owner.

I’m doing my best in getting detailed user experiences to shape my opinion 
about it. It works with me most of the time as long as I make sure that I’m 
specific about features I want and find enough resources that are not biased to 
assess the quality.

Hope me good luck with it.

Regards,

Mohamed E. Fayed  

> On 14 Oct 2021, at 2:52 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Muhammad,
> 
> I’m not a fan of high base either.  I also completely understand you wanting 
> to make sure you’ll use them.  Do you know anyone who has a pair?  Perhaps 
> they could let you listen to theirs?  I often find that’s the best way to 
> evaluate things like headphones, where personal preference plays such an 
> important role.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Oct 14, 2021, at 7:46 AM, Muhammad Fayed  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Yes, you’re right.
>> 
>> I would ask this question also to anyone who has AirPods Pro and try to 
>> extract as much info as I can. 
>> 
>> According to me, I prefer the quiet areas and low levels of volume. I 
>> actually don’t like high levels of base in whatever I hear. They do make me 
>> headache during 5 or 10 minutes.
>> 
>> I do ask a lot about it since I want to make sure that I will use it and not 
>> sell it a day or two after getting it. I want to make sure that its 
>> technology is mature enough to rely on in my case.
>> 
>> Just hope I could find a good solution as near as possible since it will 
>> change many decisions in my life and work environment.
>> 
>> Thank you so much for your replies. They were useful to me. 
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Mohamed E. Fayed 
>> 
>>> On 14 Oct 2021, at 2:27 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Mohamed,
>>> 
>>> Interesting question. This is just a guess, because of course there is an 
>>> element of subjectivity here, e.g. your preferred volume level, the noise 
>>> level of the vehicle on which you are traveling, how loudly your colleagues 
>>> are speaking, etc. But I wouldn’t think you would have to increase it by 
>>> more than a level or two.  Honestly, I’m always amazed by how well the 
>>> noise cancellation on the Airpods does work, given that they are in the ear 
>>> headphones.  But if you get them, do take the time to fit them properly to 
>>> your ears, as doing that makes a difference.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 14, 2021, at 5:56 AM, Muhammad Fayed >>> <mailto:m10fa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you so much for your replies. 
>>>> 
>>>> My use case for it is to hear whatever podcast/videos while being in 
>>>> transportation and cancel the audio of colleagues near me talking in work 
>>>> time. I wonder how many audio levels, while noise cancellation is on, you 
>>>> need to increase to be able to hear either Voiceover or a podcast playing 
>>>> on the AirPods Pro?
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you so much, 
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Mohamed E. Fayed 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 13 Oct 2021, at 11:28 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>> >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I also like my AirPods Pro a lot.  I do not experience delay when using 
>>>>> them.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I do often use them in noise cancellation mode.  As Tim says, they don’t 
>>>>> perform as well as over the ear headphones will, but they do perform 
>>>>> quite well, in my opinion.
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Donna
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 13, 2021, at 3:38 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>> >>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> There are two main modes with the AirPod Pro.  Noise Cancellation and 
>>>>>> Transparency.  In Transparency, you are able to hear outside sounds via 
>>>>>> the built-in mic.  These sounds can also be amplified if needed within 
>>>>>> the Accessibility settings of your iPhone.  The Noise Cancellatio

Re: AirPods Pro from Voiceover user prospective

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi, Muhammad,

I’m not a fan of high base either.  I also completely understand you wanting to 
make sure you’ll use them.  Do you know anyone who has a pair?  Perhaps they 
could let you listen to theirs?  I often find that’s the best way to evaluate 
things like headphones, where personal preference plays such an important role.
Cheers,
Donna

Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 14, 2021, at 7:46 AM, Muhammad Fayed  wrote:
> 
> 
> Yes, you’re right.
> 
> I would ask this question also to anyone who has AirPods Pro and try to 
> extract as much info as I can. 
> 
> According to me, I prefer the quiet areas and low levels of volume. I 
> actually don’t like high levels of base in whatever I hear. They do make me 
> headache during 5 or 10 minutes.
> 
> I do ask a lot about it since I want to make sure that I will use it and not 
> sell it a day or two after getting it. I want to make sure that its 
> technology is mature enough to rely on in my case.
> 
> Just hope I could find a good solution as near as possible since it will 
> change many decisions in my life and work environment.
> 
> Thank you so much for your replies. They were useful to me. 
> 
> Best,
> 
> Mohamed E. Fayed 
> 
>> On 14 Oct 2021, at 2:27 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mohamed,
>> 
>> Interesting question. This is just a guess, because of course there is an 
>> element of subjectivity here, e.g. your preferred volume level, the noise 
>> level of the vehicle on which you are traveling, how loudly your colleagues 
>> are speaking, etc. But I wouldn’t think you would have to increase it by 
>> more than a level or two.  Honestly, I’m always amazed by how well the noise 
>> cancellation on the Airpods does work, given that they are in the ear 
>> headphones.  But if you get them, do take the time to fit them properly to 
>> your ears, as doing that makes a difference.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>>> On Oct 14, 2021, at 5:56 AM, Muhammad Fayed  wrote:
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you so much for your replies. 
>>> 
>>> My use case for it is to hear whatever podcast/videos while being in 
>>> transportation and cancel the audio of colleagues near me talking in work 
>>> time. I wonder how many audio levels, while noise cancellation is on, you 
>>> need to increase to be able to hear either Voiceover or a podcast playing 
>>> on the AirPods Pro?
>>> 
>>> Thank you so much, 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Mohamed E. Fayed 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 13 Oct 2021, at 11:28 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I also like my AirPods Pro a lot.  I do not experience delay when using 
>>>> them.
>>>> 
>>>> I do often use them in noise cancellation mode.  As Tim says, they don’t 
>>>> perform as well as over the ear headphones will, but they do perform quite 
>>>> well, in my opinion.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Donna
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 13, 2021, at 3:38 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> There are two main modes with the AirPod Pro.  Noise Cancellation and 
>>>>> Transparency.  In Transparency, you are able to hear outside sounds via 
>>>>> the built-in mic.  These sounds can also be amplified if needed within 
>>>>> the Accessibility settings of your iPhone.  The Noise Cancellation mode 
>>>>> does quite well, although being that they are not an “Over the Ear” 
>>>>> headset, they will not perform as well as that kind of headset.  I have 
>>>>> primarily used them in Transparency mode myself as I’ve mostly needed to 
>>>>> be cognizant of other sounds when using the AirPod Pros.  I’m not sure 
>>>>> that I could give you an accurate example when using them in Noise 
>>>>> Cancellation mode.
>>>>> 
>>>>> HTH.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Later…
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>>>>> Apple Teacher
>>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 13, 2021, at 1:31 PM, Muhammad Fayed  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> S

Re: AirPods Pro from Voiceover user prospective

[Muhammad Fayed]

Yes, you’re right.

I would ask this question also to anyone who has AirPods Pro and try to extract 
as much info as I can. 

According to me, I prefer the quiet areas and low levels of volume. I actually 
don’t like high levels of base in whatever I hear. They do make me headache 
during 5 or 10 minutes.

I do ask a lot about it since I want to make sure that I will use it and not 
sell it a day or two after getting it. I want to make sure that its technology 
is mature enough to rely on in my case.

Just hope I could find a good solution as near as possible since it will change 
many decisions in my life and work environment.

Thank you so much for your replies. They were useful to me. 

Best,

Mohamed E. Fayed 

> On 14 Oct 2021, at 2:27 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mohamed,
> 
> Interesting question. This is just a guess, because of course there is an 
> element of subjectivity here, e.g. your preferred volume level, the noise 
> level of the vehicle on which you are traveling, how loudly your colleagues 
> are speaking, etc. But I wouldn’t think you would have to increase it by more 
> than a level or two.  Honestly, I’m always amazed by how well the noise 
> cancellation on the Airpods does work, given that they are in the ear 
> headphones.  But if you get them, do take the time to fit them properly to 
> your ears, as doing that makes a difference.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Oct 14, 2021, at 5:56 AM, Muhammad Fayed  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you so much for your replies. 
>> 
>> My use case for it is to hear whatever podcast/videos while being in 
>> transportation and cancel the audio of colleagues near me talking in work 
>> time. I wonder how many audio levels, while noise cancellation is on, you 
>> need to increase to be able to hear either Voiceover or a podcast playing on 
>> the AirPods Pro?
>> 
>> Thank you so much, 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Mohamed E. Fayed 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 13 Oct 2021, at 11:28 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I also like my AirPods Pro a lot.  I do not experience delay when using 
>>> them.
>>> 
>>> I do often use them in noise cancellation mode.  As Tim says, they don’t 
>>> perform as well as over the ear headphones will, but they do perform quite 
>>> well, in my opinion.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 13, 2021, at 3:38 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> There are two main modes with the AirPod Pro.  Noise Cancellation and 
>>>> Transparency.  In Transparency, you are able to hear outside sounds via 
>>>> the built-in mic.  These sounds can also be amplified if needed within the 
>>>> Accessibility settings of your iPhone.  The Noise Cancellation mode does 
>>>> quite well, although being that they are not an “Over the Ear” headset, 
>>>> they will not perform as well as that kind of headset.  I have primarily 
>>>> used them in Transparency mode myself as I’ve mostly needed to be 
>>>> cognizant of other sounds when using the AirPod Pros.  I’m not sure that I 
>>>> could give you an accurate example when using them in Noise Cancellation 
>>>> mode.
>>>> 
>>>> HTH.
>>>> 
>>>> Later…
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>>>> Apple Teacher
>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 13, 2021, at 1:31 PM, Muhammad Fayed >>>> <mailto:m10fa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sounds good. How about noise cancellation, how it sounds in general? 
>>>>> Please give me use cases as examples.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you so much,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mohamed E. Fayed 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 13 Oct 2021, at 4:13 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>> >>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I use AirPod Pro for home and work and find them very responsive.  They 
>

Re: AirPods Pro from Voiceover user prospective

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Mohamed,

Interesting question. This is just a guess, because of course there is an 
element of subjectivity here, e.g. your preferred volume level, the noise level 
of the vehicle on which you are traveling, how loudly your colleagues are 
speaking, etc. But I wouldn’t think you would have to increase it by more than 
a level or two.  Honestly, I’m always amazed by how well the noise cancellation 
on the Airpods does work, given that they are in the ear headphones.  But if 
you get them, do take the time to fit them properly to your ears, as doing that 
makes a difference.
Cheers,
Donna

Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 14, 2021, at 5:56 AM, Muhammad Fayed  wrote:
> 
> 
> Thank you so much for your replies. 
> 
> My use case for it is to hear whatever podcast/videos while being in 
> transportation and cancel the audio of colleagues near me talking in work 
> time. I wonder how many audio levels, while noise cancellation is on, you 
> need to increase to be able to hear either Voiceover or a podcast playing on 
> the AirPods Pro?
> 
> Thank you so much, 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mohamed E. Fayed 
> 
> 
>> On 13 Oct 2021, at 11:28 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I also like my AirPods Pro a lot.  I do not experience delay when using them.
>> 
>> I do often use them in noise cancellation mode.  As Tim says, they don’t 
>> perform as well as over the ear headphones will, but they do perform quite 
>> well, in my opinion.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Oct 13, 2021, at 3:38 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> There are two main modes with the AirPod Pro.  Noise Cancellation and 
>>> Transparency.  In Transparency, you are able to hear outside sounds via the 
>>> built-in mic.  These sounds can also be amplified if needed within the 
>>> Accessibility settings of your iPhone.  The Noise Cancellation mode does 
>>> quite well, although being that they are not an “Over the Ear” headset, 
>>> they will not perform as well as that kind of headset.  I have primarily 
>>> used them in Transparency mode myself as I’ve mostly needed to be cognizant 
>>> of other sounds when using the AirPod Pros.  I’m not sure that I could give 
>>> you an accurate example when using them in Noise Cancellation mode.
>>> 
>>> HTH.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 13, 2021, at 1:31 PM, Muhammad Fayed  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Sounds good. How about noise cancellation, how it sounds in general? 
>>>> Please give me use cases as examples.
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you so much,
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> 
>>>> Mohamed E. Fayed 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 13 Oct 2021, at 4:13 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I use AirPod Pro for home and work and find them very responsive.  They 
>>>>> are much better than my other Bluetooth headphones and, yes, comparable 
>>>>> to wired headphones.  I have actually found them more useful than wired 
>>>>> headphones in some respects at work as they connect to both my Mac and 
>>>>> iPhone, and thus auto-switch between when accepting phone calls either on 
>>>>> the iPhone or Cisco Jabber on the Mac.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Later…
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>>>>> Apple Teacher
>>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 12, 2021, at 11:11 PM, Muhammad Fayed  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hope my mail finds you well,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am thinking of getting a new pair of AirPods Pro and I wonder how the 
>>>>>> experience of using Bluetooth EarPods like AirPods looks like. Is the 
>>>>>> delay small enough that it does not affect your usage? For example, you 
>>>>>> can navigate through iPhone as fast as using Wired EarPods? Is it good 
>&g

Re: AirPods Pro from Voiceover user prospective

[Muhammad Fayed]

Thank you so much for your replies. 

My use case for it is to hear whatever podcast/videos while being in 
transportation and cancel the audio of colleagues near me talking in work time. 
I wonder how many audio levels, while noise cancellation is on, you need to 
increase to be able to hear either Voiceover or a podcast playing on the 
AirPods Pro?

Thank you so much, 

Regards,

Mohamed E. Fayed 


> On 13 Oct 2021, at 11:28 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> I also like my AirPods Pro a lot.  I do not experience delay when using them.
> 
> I do often use them in noise cancellation mode.  As Tim says, they don’t 
> perform as well as over the ear headphones will, but they do perform quite 
> well, in my opinion.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Oct 13, 2021, at 3:38 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> There are two main modes with the AirPod Pro.  Noise Cancellation and 
>> Transparency.  In Transparency, you are able to hear outside sounds via the 
>> built-in mic.  These sounds can also be amplified if needed within the 
>> Accessibility settings of your iPhone.  The Noise Cancellation mode does 
>> quite well, although being that they are not an “Over the Ear” headset, they 
>> will not perform as well as that kind of headset.  I have primarily used 
>> them in Transparency mode myself as I’ve mostly needed to be cognizant of 
>> other sounds when using the AirPod Pros.  I’m not sure that I could give you 
>> an accurate example when using them in Noise Cancellation mode.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Oct 13, 2021, at 1:31 PM, Muhammad Fayed >> <mailto:m10fa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sounds good. How about noise cancellation, how it sounds in general? Please 
>>> give me use cases as examples.
>>> 
>>> Thank you so much,
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Mohamed E. Fayed 
>>> 
>>>> On 13 Oct 2021, at 4:13 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> I use AirPod Pro for home and work and find them very responsive.  They 
>>>> are much better than my other Bluetooth headphones and, yes, comparable to 
>>>> wired headphones.  I have actually found them more useful than wired 
>>>> headphones in some respects at work as they connect to both my Mac and 
>>>> iPhone, and thus auto-switch between when accepting phone calls either on 
>>>> the iPhone or Cisco Jabber on the Mac.
>>>> 
>>>> Later…
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>>>> Apple Teacher
>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 12, 2021, at 11:11 PM, Muhammad Fayed >>>> <mailto:m10fa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hope my mail finds you well,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am thinking of getting a new pair of AirPods Pro and I wonder how the 
>>>>> experience of using Bluetooth EarPods like AirPods looks like. Is the 
>>>>> delay small enough that it does not affect your usage? For example, you 
>>>>> can navigate through iPhone as fast as using Wired EarPods? Is it good 
>>>>> for work when you have tasks to finish very soon?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you so much,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mohamed E. Fayed 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
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>>>>> Visionaries list.
>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> at:  mk...@ucla.edu 

Re: AirPods Pro from Voiceover user prospective

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

I also like my AirPods Pro a lot.  I do not experience delay when using them.

I do often use them in noise cancellation mode.  As Tim says, they don’t 
perform as well as over the ear headphones will, but they do perform quite 
well, in my opinion.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Oct 13, 2021, at 3:38 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> There are two main modes with the AirPod Pro.  Noise Cancellation and 
> Transparency.  In Transparency, you are able to hear outside sounds via the 
> built-in mic.  These sounds can also be amplified if needed within the 
> Accessibility settings of your iPhone.  The Noise Cancellation mode does 
> quite well, although being that they are not an “Over the Ear” headset, they 
> will not perform as well as that kind of headset.  I have primarily used them 
> in Transparency mode myself as I’ve mostly needed to be cognizant of other 
> sounds when using the AirPod Pros.  I’m not sure that I could give you an 
> accurate example when using them in Noise Cancellation mode.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Oct 13, 2021, at 1:31 PM, Muhammad Fayed > <mailto:m10fa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Sounds good. How about noise cancellation, how it sounds in general? Please 
>> give me use cases as examples.
>> 
>> Thank you so much,
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Mohamed E. Fayed 
>> 
>>> On 13 Oct 2021, at 4:13 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I use AirPod Pro for home and work and find them very responsive.  They are 
>>> much better than my other Bluetooth headphones and, yes, comparable to 
>>> wired headphones.  I have actually found them more useful than wired 
>>> headphones in some respects at work as they connect to both my Mac and 
>>> iPhone, and thus auto-switch between when accepting phone calls either on 
>>> the iPhone or Cisco Jabber on the Mac.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 12, 2021, at 11:11 PM, Muhammad Fayed >>> <mailto:m10fa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> Hope my mail finds you well,
>>>> 
>>>> I am thinking of getting a new pair of AirPods Pro and I wonder how the 
>>>> experience of using Bluetooth EarPods like AirPods looks like. Is the 
>>>> delay small enough that it does not affect your usage? For example, you 
>>>> can navigate through iPhone as fast as using Wired EarPods? Is it good for 
>>>> work when you have tasks to finish very soon?
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you so much,
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Mohamed E. Fayed 
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
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Re: AirPods Pro from Voiceover user prospective

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Oops, sorry, didn’t answer all your questions.  Changing between Noise 
Cancellation and Transparency mode is quick and easy.  Simply long-press on the 
stem to toggle between the two modes.  When listening to music, or movies, the 
sound is excellent.  Good bass and clear highs.  They also work with Apple’s 
Spacial Audio feature which changes the feel of the sound depending on where 
your head is facing in reference to your iPhone, iPad or Mac.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Oct 13, 2021, at 1:31 PM, Muhammad Fayed  wrote:
> 
> Sounds good. How about noise cancellation, how it sounds in general? Please 
> give me use cases as examples.
> 
> Thank you so much,
> 
> Best,
> 
> Mohamed E. Fayed 
> 
>> On 13 Oct 2021, at 4:13 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I use AirPod Pro for home and work and find them very responsive.  They are 
>> much better than my other Bluetooth headphones and, yes, comparable to wired 
>> headphones.  I have actually found them more useful than wired headphones in 
>> some respects at work as they connect to both my Mac and iPhone, and thus 
>> auto-switch between when accepting phone calls either on the iPhone or Cisco 
>> Jabber on the Mac.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Oct 12, 2021, at 11:11 PM, Muhammad Fayed >> <mailto:m10fa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Hope my mail finds you well,
>>> 
>>> I am thinking of getting a new pair of AirPods Pro and I wonder how the 
>>> experience of using Bluetooth EarPods like AirPods looks like. Is the delay 
>>> small enough that it does not affect your usage? For example, you can 
>>> navigate through iPhone as fast as using Wired EarPods? Is it good for work 
>>> when you have tasks to finish very soon?
>>> 
>>> Thank you so much,
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Mohamed E. Fayed 
>>> 
>>> -- 
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>>> Visionaries list.
>>> 
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Re: AirPods Pro from Voiceover user prospective

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

There are two main modes with the AirPod Pro.  Noise Cancellation and 
Transparency.  In Transparency, you are able to hear outside sounds via the 
built-in mic.  These sounds can also be amplified if needed within the 
Accessibility settings of your iPhone.  The Noise Cancellation mode does quite 
well, although being that they are not an “Over the Ear” headset, they will not 
perform as well as that kind of headset.  I have primarily used them in 
Transparency mode myself as I’ve mostly needed to be cognizant of other sounds 
when using the AirPod Pros.  I’m not sure that I could give you an accurate 
example when using them in Noise Cancellation mode.

HTH.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Oct 13, 2021, at 1:31 PM, Muhammad Fayed  wrote:
> 
> Sounds good. How about noise cancellation, how it sounds in general? Please 
> give me use cases as examples.
> 
> Thank you so much,
> 
> Best,
> 
> Mohamed E. Fayed 
> 
>> On 13 Oct 2021, at 4:13 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I use AirPod Pro for home and work and find them very responsive.  They are 
>> much better than my other Bluetooth headphones and, yes, comparable to wired 
>> headphones.  I have actually found them more useful than wired headphones in 
>> some respects at work as they connect to both my Mac and iPhone, and thus 
>> auto-switch between when accepting phone calls either on the iPhone or Cisco 
>> Jabber on the Mac.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
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>>> Hi,
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>>> I am thinking of getting a new pair of AirPods Pro and I wonder how the 
>>> experience of using Bluetooth EarPods like AirPods looks like. Is the delay 
>>> small enough that it does not affect your usage? For example, you can 
>>> navigate through iPhone as fast as using Wired EarPods? Is it good for work 
>>> when you have tasks to finish very soon?
>>> 
>>> Thank you so much,
>>> 
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Re: AirPods Pro from Voiceover user prospective

[Muhammad Fayed]

Sounds good. How about noise cancellation, how it sounds in general? Please 
give me use cases as examples.

Thank you so much,

Best,

Mohamed E. Fayed 

> On 13 Oct 2021, at 4:13 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I use AirPod Pro for home and work and find them very responsive.  They are 
> much better than my other Bluetooth headphones and, yes, comparable to wired 
> headphones.  I have actually found them more useful than wired headphones in 
> some respects at work as they connect to both my Mac and iPhone, and thus 
> auto-switch between when accepting phone calls either on the iPhone or Cisco 
> Jabber on the Mac.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
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> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Oct 12, 2021, at 11:11 PM, Muhammad Fayed > <mailto:m10fa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Hope my mail finds you well,
>> 
>> I am thinking of getting a new pair of AirPods Pro and I wonder how the 
>> experience of using Bluetooth EarPods like AirPods looks like. Is the delay 
>> small enough that it does not affect your usage? For example, you can 
>> navigate through iPhone as fast as using Wired EarPods? Is it good for work 
>> when you have tasks to finish very soon?
>> 
>> Thank you so much,
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
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Re: AirPods Pro from Voiceover user prospective

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

I use AirPod Pro for home and work and find them very responsive.  They are 
much better than my other Bluetooth headphones and, yes, comparable to wired 
headphones.  I have actually found them more useful than wired headphones in 
some respects at work as they connect to both my Mac and iPhone, and thus 
auto-switch between when accepting phone calls either on the iPhone or Cisco 
Jabber on the Mac.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Oct 12, 2021, at 11:11 PM, Muhammad Fayed  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Hope my mail finds you well,
> 
> I am thinking of getting a new pair of AirPods Pro and I wonder how the 
> experience of using Bluetooth EarPods like AirPods looks like. Is the delay 
> small enough that it does not affect your usage? For example, you can 
> navigate through iPhone as fast as using Wired EarPods? Is it good for work 
> when you have tasks to finish very soon?
> 
> Thank you so much,
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mohamed E. Fayed 
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AirPods Pro from Voiceover user prospective

[Muhammad Fayed]

Hi,

Hope my mail finds you well,

I am thinking of getting a new pair of AirPods Pro and I wonder how the 
experience of using Bluetooth EarPods like AirPods looks like. Is the delay 
small enough that it does not affect your usage? For example, you can navigate 
through iPhone as fast as using Wired EarPods? Is it good for work when you 
have tasks to finish very soon?

Thank you so much,

Regards,

Mohamed E. Fayed 

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Re: Question re Zoom and AirPods Pro

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

By default, Zoom will go to “Same as System” for both the mic audio in and 
audio out signals, unless you’ve previously set otherwise.  On the main Zoom 
screen, you should find an “Audio Options” menu button.  Vo-space on that and 
you can specifically choose your input and output devices.  If the AirPods are 
not being chose automatically, then choose them from this menu.

I’ve found, like Jonathan mentioned, that things sound much better if the 
AirPods are not both input and output.  There’s nothing inherently wrong with 
the configuration, it just doesn’t sound as good.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Oct 11, 2021, at 2:34 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Brad,
> 
> Sounds like a good plan.  Like I said, I was in a hurry, and since I’d used 
> chorded headphones before with no issues, I didn’t really give too much 
> thought to the order of things.  But I will pay more attention next time.  
> I’m just relieved to know this isn’t an unresolvable issue.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Oct 11, 2021, at 3:02 PM, Brad Snyder > <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> I have experienced similar Zoom issues when changing audio devices.
>> I suggest you first insert your AirPods, or whatever headset or audio device 
>> you wish to use with Zoom, then open Zoom preferences (CMD + comma), select 
>> Audio from the categories table, and then make sure your desired device is 
>> selected for both output and input.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 11, 2021, at 14:51, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I don’t remember.  I was late for the meeting, so I did everything very 
>> quickly.  I’m glad to hear it worked for you.  Next time, I’ll make sure I 
>> connect the AirPods first.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 11, 2021, at 2:34 PM, josephlho...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:josephlho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> By chance did you connect to zoom then connect the airpods? I haven’t done 
>>> this in a while but I had to connect the airpods first then launch the zoom 
>>> meeting and it worked fine.
>>>  
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
>>> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 3:29 PM
>>> To: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
>>> Subject: Re: Question re Zoom and AirPods Pro
>>>  
>>>  I believe I heard that if you put the microphone input to the Mac instead 
>>> of the bluetooth headphones, that sound output works better. Something 
>>> about phone vs audio bluetooth profiles if I remember correctly.
>>> HTH!
>>> Jonathan Cohn
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 11, 2021, at 15:10, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> I just tried to use my AirPods Pro for a Zoom meeting.  When they 
>>>> connected, Voiceover came through the AirPods, but the content of the Zoom 
>>>> meeting came out the speaker of my MBA.  I use hard-wired headphones all 
>>>> the time in Zoom and have never had this issue.  Does anyone know of a way 
>>>> to use AirPods in a Zoom meeting and have all the audio come through the 
>>>> headphones?
>>>> TIA,
>>>> Donna
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Re: Question re Zoom and AirPods Pro

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Brad,

Sounds like a good plan.  Like I said, I was in a hurry, and since I’d used 
chorded headphones before with no issues, I didn’t really give too much thought 
to the order of things.  But I will pay more attention next time.  I’m just 
relieved to know this isn’t an unresolvable issue.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Oct 11, 2021, at 3:02 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> I have experienced similar Zoom issues when changing audio devices.
> I suggest you first insert your AirPods, or whatever headset or audio device 
> you wish to use with Zoom, then open Zoom preferences (CMD + comma), select 
> Audio from the categories table, and then make sure your desired device is 
> selected for both output and input.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Oct 11, 2021, at 14:51, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> I don’t remember.  I was late for the meeting, so I did everything very 
> quickly.  I’m glad to hear it worked for you.  Next time, I’ll make sure I 
> connect the AirPods first.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Oct 11, 2021, at 2:34 PM, josephlho...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:josephlho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> By chance did you connect to zoom then connect the airpods? I haven’t done 
>> this in a while but I had to connect the airpods first then launch the zoom 
>> meeting and it worked fine.
>>  
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
>> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 3:29 PM
>> To: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
>> Subject: Re: Question re Zoom and AirPods Pro
>>  
>>  I believe I heard that if you put the microphone input to the Mac instead 
>> of the bluetooth headphones, that sound output works better. Something about 
>> phone vs audio bluetooth profiles if I remember correctly.
>> HTH!
>> Jonathan Cohn
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 11, 2021, at 15:10, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I just tried to use my AirPods Pro for a Zoom meeting.  When they 
>>> connected, Voiceover came through the AirPods, but the content of the Zoom 
>>> meeting came out the speaker of my MBA.  I use hard-wired headphones all 
>>> the time in Zoom and have never had this issue.  Does anyone know of a way 
>>> to use AirPods in a Zoom meeting and have all the audio come through the 
>>> headphones?
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
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Re: Question re Zoom and AirPods Pro

[Brad Snyder]

I have experienced similar Zoom issues when changing audio devices.
I suggest you first insert your AirPods, or whatever headset or audio device 
you wish to use with Zoom, then open Zoom preferences (CMD + comma), select 
Audio from the categories table, and then make sure your desired device is 
selected for both output and input.

- Brad -


On Oct 11, 2021, at 14:51, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

I don’t remember.  I was late for the meeting, so I did everything very 
quickly.  I’m glad to hear it worked for you.  Next time, I’ll make sure I 
connect the AirPods first.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Oct 11, 2021, at 2:34 PM, josephlho...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:josephlho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> By chance did you connect to zoom then connect the airpods? I haven’t done 
> this in a while but I had to connect the airpods first then launch the zoom 
> meeting and it worked fine.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 3:29 PM
> To: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
> Subject: Re: Question re Zoom and AirPods Pro
>  
>  I believe I heard that if you put the microphone input to the Mac instead of 
> the bluetooth headphones, that sound output works better. Something about 
> phone vs audio bluetooth profiles if I remember correctly.
> HTH!
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 11, 2021, at 15:10, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>>  
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I just tried to use my AirPods Pro for a Zoom meeting.  When they connected, 
>> Voiceover came through the AirPods, but the content of the Zoom meeting came 
>> out the speaker of my MBA.  I use hard-wired headphones all the time in Zoom 
>> and have never had this issue.  Does anyone know of a way to use AirPods in 
>> a Zoom meeting and have all the audio come through the headphones?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
>> 
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Re: Question re Zoom and AirPods Pro

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Very interesting.  I will try that and see if it helps.
Thanks.
Donna


> On Oct 11, 2021, at 2:28 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
>  I believe I heard that if you put the microphone input to the Mac instead of 
> the bluetooth headphones, that sound output works better. Something about 
> phone vs audio bluetooth profiles if I remember correctly.
> HTH!
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 11, 2021, at 15:10, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I just tried to use my AirPods Pro for a Zoom meeting.  When they connected, 
>> Voiceover came through the AirPods, but the content of the Zoom meeting came 
>> out the speaker of my MBA.  I use hard-wired headphones all the time in Zoom 
>> and have never had this issue.  Does anyone know of a way to use AirPods in 
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Re: Question re Zoom and AirPods Pro

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

I don’t remember.  I was late for the meeting, so I did everything very 
quickly.  I’m glad to hear it worked for you.  Next time, I’ll make sure I 
connect the AirPods first.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Oct 11, 2021, at 2:34 PM, josephlho...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> By chance did you connect to zoom then connect the airpods? I haven’t done 
> this in a while but I had to connect the airpods first then launch the zoom 
> meeting and it worked fine.
>  
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>  I believe I heard that if you put the microphone input to the Mac instead of 
> the bluetooth headphones, that sound output works better. Something about 
> phone vs audio bluetooth profiles if I remember correctly.
> HTH!
> Jonathan Cohn
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>> On Oct 11, 2021, at 15:10, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
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>> Hi all,
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>> Voiceover came through the AirPods, but the content of the Zoom meeting came 
>> out the speaker of my MBA.  I use hard-wired headphones all the time in Zoom 
>> and have never had this issue.  Does anyone know of a way to use AirPods in 
>> a Zoom meeting and have all the audio come through the headphones?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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RE: Question re Zoom and AirPods Pro

[josephlhodge]

By chance did you connect to zoom then connect the airpods? I haven’t done this 
in a while but I had to connect the airpods first then launch the zoom meeting 
and it worked fine.

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 3:29 PM
To: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: Question re Zoom and AirPods Pro

 

 I believe I heard that if you put the microphone input to the Mac instead of 
the bluetooth headphones, that sound output works better. Something about phone 
vs audio bluetooth profiles if I remember correctly.

HTH!

Jonathan Cohn







On Oct 11, 2021, at 15:10, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > 
wrote:

 

Hi all,

I just tried to use my AirPods Pro for a Zoom meeting.  When they connected, 
Voiceover came through the AirPods, but the content of the Zoom meeting came 
out the speaker of my MBA.  I use hard-wired headphones all the time in Zoom 
and have never had this issue.  Does anyone know of a way to use AirPods in a 
Zoom meeting and have all the audio come through the headphones?
TIA,
Donna

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Re: Question re Zoom and AirPods Pro

[Jonathan Cohn]

 I believe I heard that if you put the microphone input to the Mac instead of 
the bluetooth headphones, that sound output works better. Something about phone 
vs audio bluetooth profiles if I remember correctly.
HTH!
Jonathan Cohn



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> Hi all,
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> I just tried to use my AirPods Pro for a Zoom meeting.  When they connected, 
> Voiceover came through the AirPods, but the content of the Zoom meeting came 
> out the speaker of my MBA.  I use hard-wired headphones all the time in Zoom 
> and have never had this issue.  Does anyone know of a way to use AirPods in a 
> Zoom meeting and have all the audio come through the headphones?
> TIA,
> Donna
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Question re Zoom and AirPods Pro

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi all,

I just tried to use my AirPods Pro for a Zoom meeting.  When they connected, 
Voiceover came through the AirPods, but the content of the Zoom meeting came 
out the speaker of my MBA.  I use hard-wired headphones all the time in Zoom 
and have never had this issue.  Does anyone know of a way to use AirPods in a 
Zoom meeting and have all the audio come through the headphones?
TIA,
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Re: AirPods Pro questions.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Ok, thanks for that.
Will try this later on.
They’re really good.
/A

> 14 aug. 2021 kl. 21:47 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hi Anders,
> 
> Brad answered your question about the gestures, so I will just add that when 
> I take them out, I do put them back in the charging case.
> Cheers,
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>> On Aug 14, 2021, at 2:34 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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>> Hi friends!
>> I actually have set my AirPods Pro up but I have some questions for you.
>> For those of you who have them when you take them out of your ears do you 
>> always put them in the charging case?
>> Secondly I have issues making the gestures work properly.
>> So I can’t really get the hang of  play/pause/forward/backwards, also not 
>> how I should or where on the pods I should press?
>> But I am impressed so far even though my ears are to big even for the 
>> biggest silicon plugs.
>> I hope I don’t confuse anyone now.
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Re: AirPods Pro questions.

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Anders,

Brad answered your question about the gestures, so I will just add that when I 
take them out, I do put them back in the charging case.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Aug 14, 2021, at 2:34 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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> I actually have set my AirPods Pro up but I have some questions for you.
> For those of you who have them when you take them out of your ears do you 
> always put them in the charging case?
> Secondly I have issues making the gestures work properly.
> So I can’t really get the hang of  play/pause/forward/backwards, also not how 
> I should or where on the pods I should press?
> But I am impressed so far even though my ears are to big even for the biggest 
> silicon plugs.
> I hope I don’t confuse anyone now.
> /A
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Re: AirPods Pro questions.

[Brad Snyder]

It is always best to put the AirPods into the case when you are not wearing 
them.
On each AirPod Pro, you will feel a small indention on the front side of the 
short stem.  This is where you press in order to initiate an action.

You press and hold to initiate the customizable action, such as changing Noise 
Cancellation mode, or activating Siri.
You press once quickly to play/pause whatever you are listening to, or to 
answer or terminate an incoming phone call.
You press twice quickly to go forward to the next track, or when on a call, to 
answer a second call waiting call.
You press three time quickly to go backwards to the previous track.

- Brad -


On Aug 14, 2021, at 14:34, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi friends!
I actually have set my AirPods Pro up but I have some questions for you.
For those of you who have them when you take them out of your ears do you 
always put them in the charging case?
Secondly I have issues making the gestures work properly.
So I can’t really get the hang of  play/pause/forward/backwards, also not how I 
should or where on the pods I should press?
But I am impressed so far even though my ears are to big even for the biggest 
silicon plugs.
I hope I don’t confuse anyone now.
/A

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AirPods Pro questions.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi friends!
I actually have set my AirPods Pro up but I have some questions for you.
For those of you who have them when you take them out of your ears do you 
always put them in the charging case?
Secondly I have issues making the gestures work properly.
So I can’t really get the hang of  play/pause/forward/backwards, also not how I 
should or where on the pods I should press?
But I am impressed so far even though my ears are to big even for the biggest 
silicon plugs.
I hope I don’t confuse anyone now.
/A

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Re: AirPods Pro or PowerBeats pro.

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Anders,

I’ve never tried the PowerBeats Pro, but I like my AirPods Pro a lot.  As far 
as how good the sound cancellation is, I don’t have a basis of comparison, but 
I find it to be quite good.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Jun 14, 2021, at 12:33 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Since the AirPods max is not really something you carry around I would like 
> to have some noise canceling in-ear headphones.
> I have the powerBeats, not the pro ones that are noise canceling.
> But I wonder  which one to buy?
> For those of you who have the AirPods Pro, how much do the cancel out?
> Can you sit in a car or a train and listen without being disturbed?
> Thanks.
> /A
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