Apple HomePod 2? Or any smart speaker suggestions?

2024-05-30 Thread Chuck Reichel
Hi List,
Looking for a smart speaker as an alternative system to check my audio masters 
from the studio.
Is it still true that the HomePod mini cable is fixed in place?
Is the Apple HomePod 2 the best way to go?
Any hands on recommendations?
Thanks
Chuck



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Strange HomePod issue.

2024-05-20 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
I asked Siri on my HomePod mini to start a radio station and she just told me 
that internet was not available.
So i pushed the play button and the station started to play.
I am not surprised though as Siri is Siri.
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Re: HomePod mini not what I've expected but..

2024-05-08 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
Ok, thanks for that.
I mostly use the iPhone  for such thing.
But its very cool to ask Siri to play a radiostation and she most of the time 
does it.
/A

> 8 maj 2024 kl. 14:11 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hi Anders,
> 
> Re using the display on the top of the Mini:
> 
> First, you won’t need to do that very often, because you can do just about 
> everything using Siri and/or your I-device.
> 
> Second, to use it easily, orient it so that the chord is directly in back of 
> you, e.g. from you, to the speaker to the chord is a straight line.  Now, the 
> play/pause button is in the center, and the increase/decrease volume buttons 
> are on the right and left respectively.  Now you can turn the volume up by 
> tapping the right side of the speaker, and down by tapping the left.
> HTH,
> Donna
> 
>> On May 8, 2024, at 6:28 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>>  Hi!
>> So I have finally set up my HomePod mini.
>> For me things went quite smooth and easy but there are things I didn’t 
>> expected.
>> I thought they would look like any speaker you get on the market but they 
>> are not.
>> They look like two  balls with a flat top.
>> Not what I had expected.
>> THey didn’t have any batteries either which to me was a bit of a drawback 
>> but now I have have them and they won’t go back to apple because the sound 
>> is quite ok and the functionality is something I really like.
>> One thing which was cool was the indoor temperature functionality and the 
>> humidity functionality.
>> But for being that small the sound is quite great even though the stereo 
>> spreading from a pair could be better.
>> Maybe I have missed something but I don’t think so.
>> The display on the top works with VOiceOver but since its round and not 
>> rectangular its a bit tricky to use at least for me.
>> But I guess that’s a learning curve.
>> 
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Re: HomePod mini not what I've expected but..

2024-05-08 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi Anders,

Re using the display on the top of the Mini:

First, you won’t need to do that very often, because you can do just about 
everything using Siri and/or your I-device.

Second, to use it easily, orient it so that the chord is directly in back of 
you, e.g. from you, to the speaker to the chord is a straight line.  Now, the 
play/pause button is in the center, and the increase/decrease volume buttons 
are on the right and left respectively.  Now you can turn the volume up by 
tapping the right side of the speaker, and down by tapping the left.
HTH,
Donna

> On May 8, 2024, at 6:28 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
>   Hi!
> So I have finally set up my HomePod mini.
> For me things went quite smooth and easy but there are things I didn’t 
> expected.
> I thought they would look like any speaker you get on the market but they are 
> not.
> They look like two  balls with a flat top.
> Not what I had expected.
> THey didn’t have any batteries either which to me was a bit of a drawback but 
> now I have have them and they won’t go back to apple because the sound is 
> quite ok and the functionality is something I really like.
> One thing which was cool was the indoor temperature functionality and the 
> humidity functionality.
> But for being that small the sound is quite great even though the stereo 
> spreading from a pair could be better.
> Maybe I have missed something but I don’t think so.
> The display on the top works with VOiceOver but since its round and not 
> rectangular its a bit tricky to use at least for me.
> But I guess that’s a learning curve.
> 
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HomePod mini not what I've expected but..

2024-05-08 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
So I have finally set up my HomePod mini.
For me things went quite smooth and easy but there are things I didn’t expected.
I thought they would look like any speaker you get on the market but they are 
not.
They look like two  balls with a flat top.
Not what I had expected.
THey didn’t have any batteries either which to me was a bit of a drawback but 
now I have have them and they won’t go back to apple because the sound is quite 
ok and the functionality is something I really like.
One thing which was cool was the indoor temperature functionality and the 
humidity functionality.
But for being that small the sound is quite great even though the stereo 
spreading from a pair could be better.
Maybe I have missed something but I don’t think so.
The display on the top works with VOiceOver but since its round and not 
rectangular its a bit tricky to use at least for me.
But I guess that’s a learning curve.

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Re: HomePod mini

2024-04-30 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
I have never used iPod Minies as a stereo pair. I tend to use the minis in 
smaller rooms such as my office, and I use them as standalone.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 30, 2024, at 1:25 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> But if I use one HomePod then I won’t have stereo sound right?
> Bless.
> /A
> 
>> 29 apr. 2024 kl. 20:43 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> :
>> 
>> Anders,
>> 
>> I don’t know about mounting them, but I would think so.  Each mini is sold 
>> separately.  If you want them to function as a stereo pair, you set that up 
>> in settings, otherwise, they will each function independently.  And yes, 
>> each one has its own power supply.
>> Best,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Apr 29, 2024, at 1:19 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>>Hi!
>>> I am a bit interested in the HomePod mini.
>>> And since its a stereo pair I am wondering if its possible to hang them on 
>>> the wall?
>>> I also am interested in if there are  one  power unit to drive the both 
>>> HomePods or if I have to have one for each HomePod?
>>> Bless.
>>> /A
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Re: HomePod mini

2024-04-30 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
You can play music directly from your Mac, iPhone, or iPad.DonnaSent from my iPhoneOn Apr 30, 2024, at 2:08 PM, Eiret  wrote:Encrypted. Interesting. I like the idea of local encryption in home. Is the only way to run homepods via siri and homekit app ? Would apple remote hardware physical remote work ? Does the homepads have bluetooth ?Nice with privacy when listening to music so no other can troll with the sound.Eiret30. apr. 2024 kl. 20:35 skrev 'Kliph Miller Sr' via MacVisionaries :The mini won’t give you that great of stereo sound even with a pair, JMO
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On Apr 30, 2024, at 1:25 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:Hi!But if I use one HomePod then I won’t have stereo sound right?Bless./A29 apr. 2024 kl. 20:43 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries :Anders,I don’t know about mounting them, but I would think so.  Each mini is sold separately.  If you want them to function as a stereo pair, you set that up in settings, otherwise, they will each function independently.  And yes, each one has its own power supply.Best,DonnaOn Apr 29, 2024, at 1:19 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:	Hi!I am a bit interested in the HomePod mini.And since its a stereo pair I am wondering if its possible to hang them on the wall?I also am interested in if there are  one  power unit to drive the both HomePods or if I have to have one for each HomePod?Bless./A-- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/E528D9D2-A4F1-400D-AF03-C68CB6AB9C8F%40pipkrokodil.se.-- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/350348C6-6622-4A44-A2F1-ADD880CC2F57%40me.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/79B8C41F-96B1-4FA2-BA3A-65378964CC0C%40pipkrokodil.se.



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Re: HomePod mini

2024-04-30 Thread Eiret
Encrypted. Interesting. I like the idea of local encryption in home. Is the only way to run homepods via siri and homekit app ? Would apple remote hardware physical remote work ? Does the homepads have bluetooth ?Nice with privacy when listening to music so no other can troll with the sound.Eiret30. apr. 2024 kl. 20:35 skrev 'Kliph Miller Sr' via MacVisionaries :The mini won’t give you that great of stereo sound even with a pair, JMO
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On Apr 30, 2024, at 1:25 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:Hi!But if I use one HomePod then I won’t have stereo sound right?Bless./A29 apr. 2024 kl. 20:43 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries :Anders,I don’t know about mounting them, but I would think so.  Each mini is sold separately.  If you want them to function as a stereo pair, you set that up in settings, otherwise, they will each function independently.  And yes, each one has its own power supply.Best,DonnaOn Apr 29, 2024, at 1:19 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:	Hi!I am a bit interested in the HomePod mini.And since its a stereo pair I am wondering if its possible to hang them on the wall?I also am interested in if there are  one  power unit to drive the both HomePods or if I have to have one for each HomePod?Bless./A-- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/E528D9D2-A4F1-400D-AF03-C68CB6AB9C8F%40pipkrokodil.se.-- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/350348C6-6622-4A44-A2F1-ADD880CC2F57%40me.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/79B8C41F-96B1-4FA2-BA3A-65378964CC0C%40pipkrokodil.se.



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Re: HomePod mini

2024-04-30 Thread 'Kliph Miller Sr' via MacVisionaries
The mini won’t give you that great of stereo sound even with a pair, JMO

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> On Apr 30, 2024, at 1:25 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> But if I use one HomePod then I won’t have stereo sound right?
> Bless.
> /A
> 
>> 29 apr. 2024 kl. 20:43 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> :
>> 
>> Anders,
>> 
>> I don’t know about mounting them, but I would think so.  Each mini is sold 
>> separately.  If you want them to function as a stereo pair, you set that up 
>> in settings, otherwise, they will each function independently.  And yes, 
>> each one has its own power supply.
>> Best,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 29, 2024, at 1:19 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> I am a bit interested in the HomePod mini.
>>> And since its a stereo pair I am wondering if its possible to hang them on 
>>> the wall?
>>> I also am interested in if there are  one  power unit to drive the both 
>>> HomePods or if I have to have one for each HomePod?
>>> Bless.
>>> /A
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Re: HomePod mini

2024-04-30 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
But if I use one HomePod then I won’t have stereo sound right?
Bless.
/A

> 29 apr. 2024 kl. 20:43 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Anders,
> 
> I don’t know about mounting them, but I would think so.  Each mini is sold 
> separately.  If you want them to function as a stereo pair, you set that up 
> in settings, otherwise, they will each function independently.  And yes, each 
> one has its own power supply.
> Best,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Apr 29, 2024, at 1:19 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>>  Hi!
>> I am a bit interested in the HomePod mini.
>> And since its a stereo pair I am wondering if its possible to hang them on 
>> the wall?
>> I also am interested in if there are  one  power unit to drive the both 
>> HomePods or if I have to have one for each HomePod?
>> Bless.
>> /A
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Re: HomePod mini

2024-04-30 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi Eiret and all,

I would have to hunt down that link, and I don’t have time.  The problem I 
encountered was that I was sold a mini running an antiquated version of the 
HomeKit.  Between that version and the current one, Apple had tightened 
security by encrypting everything, which meant that I couldn’t connect my new 
Mini to my home.  I did eventually get it to work, it just took a long time and 
a lot of work.
Best,
Donna

> On Apr 29, 2024, at 8:34 PM, Eiret  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
> A few weeks ago i think you posted a link to a forum about homepod regarding 
> some strange error. If memory is good, they said the homepods are secured 
> with encryption when using airplay. 
> Are you able to repost the link ?
> I think amazon have things to hit on the wall and put homepod in it. Not from 
> apple, but third party.
> Eiret 
> 
>> 29. apr. 2024 kl. 20:43 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> :
>> 
>> Anders,
>> 
>> I don’t know about mounting them, but I would think so.  Each mini is sold 
>> separately.  If you want them to function as a stereo pair, you set that up 
>> in settings, otherwise, they will each function independently.  And yes, 
>> each one has its own power supply.
>> Best,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 29, 2024, at 1:19 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>>   Hi!
>>> I am a bit interested in the HomePod mini.
>>> And since its a stereo pair I am wondering if its possible to hang them on 
>>> the wall?
>>> I also am interested in if there are  one  power unit to drive the both 
>>> HomePods or if I have to have one for each HomePod?
>>> Bless.
>>> /A
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Re: HomePod mini

2024-04-29 Thread Eiret
Hi Donna,
A few weeks ago i think you posted a link to a forum about homepod regarding 
some strange error. If memory is good, they said the homepods are secured with 
encryption when using airplay. 
Are you able to repost the link ?
I think amazon have things to hit on the wall and put homepod in it. Not from 
apple, but third party.
Eiret 

> 29. apr. 2024 kl. 20:43 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Anders,
> 
> I don’t know about mounting them, but I would think so.  Each mini is sold 
> separately.  If you want them to function as a stereo pair, you set that up 
> in settings, otherwise, they will each function independently.  And yes, each 
> one has its own power supply.
> Best,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Apr 29, 2024, at 1:19 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>>Hi!
>> I am a bit interested in the HomePod mini.
>> And since its a stereo pair I am wondering if its possible to hang them on 
>> the wall?
>> I also am interested in if there are  one  power unit to drive the both 
>> HomePods or if I have to have one for each HomePod?
>> Bless.
>> /A
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Re: HomePod mini

2024-04-29 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Anders,

I don’t know about mounting them, but I would think so.  Each mini is sold 
separately.  If you want them to function as a stereo pair, you set that up in 
settings, otherwise, they will each function independently.  And yes, each one 
has its own power supply.
Best,
Donna


> On Apr 29, 2024, at 1:19 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
>   Hi!
> I am a bit interested in the HomePod mini.
> And since its a stereo pair I am wondering if its possible to hang them on 
> the wall?
> I also am interested in if there are  one  power unit to drive the both 
> HomePods or if I have to have one for each HomePod?
> Bless.
> /A
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HomePod mini

2024-04-29 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
I am a bit interested in the HomePod mini.
And since its a stereo pair I am wondering if its possible to hang them on the 
wall?
I also am interested in if there are  one  power unit to drive the both 
HomePods or if I have to have one for each HomePod?
Bless.
/A

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Re: More on the HomePod from hell

2024-04-05 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi Mary,

Yeah, I just checked the pricing, and it appears to run about $600.  So no, not 
cheap.  But of all the Sonos products we've purchased, it was by far the most 
worthwhile purchase.  We purchased ours back in 2018, and have never had a 
minute of trouble.  My only complaint about it is that like all the Sonos 
products, it’s prone to dropping out of the system.  However, that happens less 
frequently than it used to, and when it does, it’s easy to reconnect it in 
Control Center.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Mar 30, 2024, at 11:18 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
> Well good for you keeping those speakers. I think I’ve heard of Sonos amps, 
> and I imagine they’re pretty pricey. I still have my old Adcom power amp and 
> a preamp that dates from Gali sometime in the 80s maybe. A long time ago. It 
> sounds great. But there’s no Bluetooth or anything anywhere, hence the 
> HomePods. Like you, I used to have a giant collection of albums and then CDs. 
> The albums are gone as is my beloved B and O turntable, and I ripped all the 
> CDs into whatever lossless codec was at the time back when I had a Mac. 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 30, 2024, at 6:46 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
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>> Hi Mary,
>> 
>> I wish I knew for sure.  I think some of my trouble was created by me.  I 
>> had the “clever” idea Thursday night that if I could pair it with my old 
>> iPhone 7, which I still keep around as a music player, it wouldn’t connect 
>> to our home, but should be able to connect to our wireless network.  My hope 
>> was that that would allow it to update, which would then allow me to reset 
>> it, and set it up again using my iPhone 14 pro.  But, and I don’t totally 
>> understand this, when you reset a HomePod, it still holds on to some of your 
>> settings. So when I connected it to my Mac, it downloaded software version 
>> 17.2, which, though not the current version was current enough for it to 
>> connect with our home.  But, it still seemed to have had stuff from the 
>> earlier pairing, so instead of updating, somehow it seems to have downgraded 
>> our Home software, which meant that nothing worked. I do know that something 
>> like that happened because after I finally got it to work yesterday, I was 
>> prompted again to upgrade everything to the new home infrastructure.  At 
>> that point it was late, and I was tired, so I reset the HomePod and went to 
>> bed, leaving the Mini unplugged overnight and all the next morning.  When I 
>> finally had time to get back to it, the setup worked.  It got setup in our 
>> home, and then immediately updated.
>> 
>> By the way, re your stereo, we solved that problem by buying a Sonos amp.  
>> My husband built a pair of speakers when he was in college, and to this day 
>> I think they’re some of the best speakers I’ve heard.  So, even though we 
>> wanted to go to a wireless system, there was no way we were giving up those 
>> speakers.  I don’t remember the price of the amp, but it works very well, 
>> and gives us the option of having my husband’s speakers in our Home setup.  
>> Just thought I’d let you know that’s an option, in case it’s of interest. 
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 11:18 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So how did you get your problem resolved, Donna? I know they finally 
>>> figured out a way to charge iPhones in the store which is a good thing, 
>>> since that caused a big mess. I don’t think they’ve done that with 
>>> HomePods. So how did you get yours done? I still have my pair of old 
>>> HomePods connected in the front room. I love old-fashioned stereo, and the 
>>> HomePods don’t compare with my big fat great stereo speakers. The only 
>>> problem is, they don’t make equipment that connects like that anymore 
>>> unless you want to spend we big bucks. So, we’re stuck with all this 
>>> wireless crap. This is not progress, but what can you do?
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 7:45 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks, Karen. It all worked out in the end. Well I respect your choice 
>>>> to continue using your stereo, personally I love voice control. I love 
>>>> that I can use it to do things and get more stuff done. We all choose the 
>>>> technology that is most comfortable for us. Well I recognize that HomePods 
>>>> may not be your choice, they were mine. And when we purchased this HomePod 
>>>> mini, we had no expectation of the trials that awaited us. I do think 
&

Re: Warning to anyone looking to buy a HomePod: apparently Apple thinks it's OK to sell paperweights disguised as Homepods

2024-04-05 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
You know, we’re so deep into the Apple ecosystem that if we ever decide to 
leave it, it’s going to cost us a bloody fortune.  So at this point, it doesn’t 
really matter. Lol
Cheers,
Donna

> On Apr 1, 2024, at 5:46 AM, joseph hodge  wrote:
> 
> For me the fact that HomePods do not have any sort of Bluetooth or casting 
> capability is a no-go for me! In case I ever want to leave the Apple 
> ecosystem I can't believe the only thing they let you do is airplay well I 
> guess I can believe it lol!
> 
> On Sun, Mar 31, 2024, 3:17 PM 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
>> Hi Matthew,
>> 
>> I haven’t had any problems like that, but I never play music from my Mac. I 
>> always either play it using Siri, or using my phone. And none of our 
>> HomePods ever drop out, unless we’ve been having network issues.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 31, 2024, at 1:57 PM, Matthew Dyer >> <mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have had my current homepod for several years and it works well with 
>>> really only one problem which I have yet to figure out.  When playing music 
>>> on any of my macs, the device will just randomly drop out for some reason.  
>>> I have consitered getting a mini, but have not desided yet.  I have a 
>>> electa which works with my sirius XM account as well as my thurmastate.  
>>> Its certainly an intresting issue with my music cutting out.  This does not 
>>> happen with my ipad mini 5.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Matthew
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 3/31/24 12:18 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>> Actually, the HomePod is a good product.  The problem isn’t that the 
>>>> HomePod was defective, it’s that Apple shouldn’t ship them out without 
>>>> first upgrading them to a software version supported by HomeKit.
>>>> 
>>>> In terms of performance, once it’s connected to Home, it does quite well, 
>>>> I think.  We used to have Sonos speakers, and they were constantly 
>>>> dropping out and needing to be reconnected or reset.  I don’t have any of 
>>>> that with the HomePods.  Also, I think Apple does a much better job of 
>>>> managing security than Amazon Alexa does.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Donna
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 31, 2024, at 11:09 AM, Michael Irons  
>>>>> <mailto:theleo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello everybody I am inclined to agree with Anders Holmberg about the 
>>>>> HomePod. I don’t want to get HomePod either. It sounds like Apple has 
>>>>> turned out something that has some pretty serious defects in it. I am 
>>>>> getting along with a Google home speaker and an Alexa device that my dad 
>>>>> invited me to take with me when I moved out of his house. I also have a 
>>>>> Google home hub which seems to work pretty good. Both of these devices 
>>>>> can be updated. I would hope that Apple would understand about their 
>>>>> defective product and work on a remedy to fix it. I feel bad for those 
>>>>> people that were unfortunate enough to get a HomePod. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 31, 2024, at 10:57 AM, Anders Holmberg  
>>>>>> <mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>> I don’t want to get a HomePod.
>>>>>> Not for this reason but I do not need it.
>>>>>> However it seems very very clunky and unacceptable to me.
>>>>>> I once was an apple fanboy but now a days I am not a fanboy of any brand.
>>>>>> Bless.
>>>>>> /A
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 29 mars 2024 kl. 02:43 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I just wanted to share this with the list, as it could potentially 
>>>>>>> impact anyone considering the purchase of a HomePod or HomePod mini.  
>>>>>>> Feel free to share with anyone who might benefit.
>>>>>>> 
&g

Re: Warning to anyone looking to buy a HomePod: apparently Apple thinks it's OK to sell paperweights disguised as Homepods

2024-04-05 Thread joseph hodge
For me the fact that HomePods do not have any sort of Bluetooth or casting
capability is a no-go for me! In case I ever want to leave the Apple
ecosystem I can't believe the only thing they let you do is airplay well I
guess I can believe it lol!

On Sun, Mar 31, 2024, 3:17 PM 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hi Matthew,
>
> I haven’t had any problems like that, but I never play music from my Mac.
> I always either play it using Siri, or using my phone. And none of our
> HomePods ever drop out, unless we’ve been having network issues.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 31, 2024, at 1:57 PM, Matthew Dyer 
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hi,
>
>
> I have had my current homepod for several years and it works well with
> really only one problem which I have yet to figure out.  When playing music
> on any of my macs, the device will just randomly drop out for some reason.
> I have consitered getting a mini, but have not desided yet.  I have a
> electa which works with my sirius XM account as well as my thurmastate.
> Its certainly an intresting issue with my music cutting out.  This does not
> happen with my ipad mini 5.
>
>
> Matthew
>
>
>
> On 3/31/24 12:18 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>
> Actually, the HomePod is a good product.  The problem isn’t that the
> HomePod was defective, it’s that Apple shouldn’t ship them out without
> first upgrading them to a software version supported by HomeKit.
>
> In terms of performance, once it’s connected to Home, it does quite well,
> I think.  We used to have Sonos speakers, and they were constantly dropping
> out and needing to be reconnected or reset.  I don’t have any of that with
> the HomePods.  Also, I think Apple does a much better job of managing
> security than Amazon Alexa does.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>
> On Mar 31, 2024, at 11:09 AM, Michael Irons 
>  wrote:
>
> Hello everybody I am inclined to agree with Anders Holmberg about the
> HomePod. I don’t want to get HomePod either. It sounds like Apple has
> turned out something that has some pretty serious defects in it. I am
> getting along with a Google home speaker and an Alexa device that my dad
> invited me to take with me when I moved out of his house. I also have a
> Google home hub which seems to work pretty good. Both of these devices can
> be updated. I would hope that Apple would understand about their defective
> product and work on a remedy to fix it. I feel bad for those people that
> were unfortunate enough to get a HomePod.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 31, 2024, at 10:57 AM, Anders Holmberg 
>  wrote:
>
> Hi!
> I don’t want to get a HomePod.
> Not for this reason but I do not need it.
> However it seems very very clunky and unacceptable to me.
> I once was an apple fanboy but now a days I am not a fanboy of any brand.
> Bless.
> /A
>
> 29 mars 2024 kl. 02:43 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
>  :
>
> Hi all,
>
> I just wanted to share this with the list, as it could potentially impact
> anyone considering the purchase of a HomePod or HomePod mini.  Feel free to
> share with anyone who might benefit.
>
> After spending an entire afternoon trying to set up our new HomePod mini,
> I found the following article.  Buyer beware!  Apparently Apple thinks it’s
> just fine to sell these things.  I plan on returning mine, and will only
> buy another if the people at the Apple Store can definitively prove that it
> is running a more recent software version.
> 
>
> Apple Details What to Do If You Can't Update HomePod When Advanced Data
> Protection Is Enabled
> <https://www.macrumors.com/2023/01/20/homepod-bug-advanced-data-protection/#>
> macrumors.com
> <https://www.macrumors.com/2023/01/20/homepod-bug-advanced-data-protection/#>
>
> <https://www.macrumors.com/2023/01/20/homepod-bug-advanced-data-protection/#>
>
> The text of the article follows:
>
> To use Advanced Data Protection for iCloud, all the devices logged into
> your Apple ID require a minimum software version. That includes HomePod
> speakers, which must be running at least HomePod software 16.2.
>
> However, according to *Bloomberg*'s Mark Gurman
> <https://twitter.com/markgurman/status/1616115559715975168>, there is a
> bug in the Home app that prevents HomePods running older versions of the
> software from being updated if iCloud end-to-end encryption has been turned
> on.
>
> This means anyone buying a HomePod that ships with an OS older than 16.2
> won't be able to set it up, because doing so first requires an update.
>
> Apple's support document explains what options are available to customers
> facing this pr

Re: Warning to anyone looking to buy a HomePod: apparently Apple thinks it's OK to sell paperweights disguised as Homepods

2024-04-05 Thread Mary Otten
I have to agree with Donna about the HomePod. I have had Google nests, the mini ones, and overtime, Google Assistant is actually getting dumber. They’re taking longer and longer to respond and they often don’t have a clue. As for the Amazon devices, they’re OK too I suppose if you don’t mind questionable security. They’re good for SiriusXM which is mostly what I use them for and setting timers. But asking them for information is like the wild West. Siri has never been known for its great accuracy of information either, but it seems like Google and Amazon are getting dumber, a troubling trend. Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 31, 2024, at 10:20 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  wrote:Actually, the HomePod is a good product.  The problem isn’t that the HomePod was defective, it’s that Apple shouldn’t ship them out without first upgrading them to a software version supported by HomeKit.In terms of performance, once it’s connected to Home, it does quite well, I think.  We used to have Sonos speakers, and they were constantly dropping out and needing to be reconnected or reset.  I don’t have any of that with the HomePods.  Also, I think Apple does a much better job of managing security than Amazon Alexa does.Cheers,DonnaOn Mar 31, 2024, at 11:09 AM, Michael Irons  wrote:Hello everybody I am inclined to agree with Anders Holmberg about the HomePod. I don’t want to get HomePod either. It sounds like Apple has turned out something that has some pretty serious defects in it. I am getting along with a Google home speaker and an Alexa device that my dad invited me to take with me when I moved out of his house. I also have a Google home hub which seems to work pretty good. Both of these devices can be updated. I would hope that Apple would understand about their defective product and work on a remedy to fix it. I feel bad for those people that were unfortunate enough to get a HomePod. Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 31, 2024, at 10:57 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:Hi!I don’t want to get a HomePod.Not for this reason but I do not need it.However it seems very very clunky and unacceptable to me.I once was an apple fanboy but now a days I am not a fanboy of any brand.Bless./A29 mars 2024 kl. 02:43 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries :Hi all,I just wanted to share this with the list, as it could potentially impact anyone considering the purchase of a HomePod or HomePod mini.  Feel free to share with anyone who might benefit.After spending an entire afternoon trying to set up our new HomePod mini, I found the following article.  Buyer beware!  Apparently Apple thinks it’s just fine to sell these things.  I plan on returning mine, and will only buy another if the people at the Apple Store can definitively prove that it is running a more recent software version.Apple Details What to Do If You Can't Update HomePod When Advanced Data Protection Is Enabledmacrumors.comThe text of the article follows:To use Advanced Data Protection for iCloud, all the devices logged into your Apple ID require a minimum software version. That includes HomePod speakers, which must be running at least HomePod software 16.2. However, according to Bloomberg's Mark Gurman, there is a bug in the Home app that prevents HomePods running older versions of the software from being updated if iCloud end-to-end encryption has been turned on.This means anyone buying a HomePod that ships with an OS older than 16.2 won't be able to set it up, because doing so first requires an update.Apple's support document explains what options are available to customers facing this predicament. If the speaker in question is a HomePod mini, users can connect it to a Mac via the USB-C cable and update it through Finder (or iTunes on a PC) by selecting the HomePod in the Finder sidebar and clicking the Restore HomePod option. This will update the speaker to the latest software, after which it can be properly set up.The full-size first-generation HomePod and the new 2023 HomePod have no USB-C port, so unless Apple includes a fix in iOS 16.3, which is expected to be released next week, owners of these speakers will have to temporarily turn off Advanced Data Protection to update the HomePod software. Apple outlines how to do that in the following way:Turn off Advanced Data Protection in iCloud settings on your iPhone, iPad, or Mac: In Settings or System Settings, tap your name, then tap iCloud. Scroll to Advanced Data Protection and turn off Advanced Data Protection.If you received an error message when you previously tried to set up your HomePod, you may need to reset your HomePod. Then set up your HomePod.Update your HomePod to the latest software using the Home app. Turn on Advanced Data Protection in iCloud settings on your iPhone, iPad, or Mac: In Settings or System Settings, tap your name, then tap iCloud. Scroll to Advanced Data Protection and turn on Advanced Data Protection.Apple advises anyone who temporarily turns off Advanced Data Protection to turn it back on immediately

Re: More on the HomePod from hell

2024-04-05 Thread Karen Lewellen

hi Mary,
You might be surprised what is available, and inexpensively, to insure 
your stereo equipment can connect to other things.
Part of my professional life is as a radio producer. Often those working 
in  broadcasting need to connect their standard equipment to these new 
toys, so smaller adapters exist that make this easy..and once you buy it, 
it lasts  forever.

I may be easing into off topic territory however.
Still, depending on where you live, finding the toolscan be done.
Kare



On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, Mary Otten wrote:


So how did you get your problem resolved, Donna? I know they finally figured 
out a way to charge iPhones in the store which is a good thing, since that 
caused a big mess. I don’t think they’ve done that with HomePods. So how did 
you get yours done? I still have my pair of old HomePods connected in the front 
room. I love old-fashioned stereo, and the HomePods don’t compare with my big 
fat great stereo speakers. The only problem is, they don’t make equipment that 
connects like that anymore unless you want to spend we big bucks. So, we’re 
stuck with all this wireless crap. This is not progress, but what can you do?
Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 29, 2024, at 7:45 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Thanks, Karen. It all worked out in the end. Well I respect your choice to 
continue using your stereo, personally I love voice control. I love that I can 
use it to do things and get more stuff done. We all choose the technology that 
is most comfortable for us. Well I recognize that HomePods may not be your 
choice, they were mine. And when we purchased this HomePod mini, we had no 
expectation of the trials that awaited us. I do think apples quality control 
has gone downhill a lot, and I think this is just the latest example of that, 
unfortunately.
Cheers,
Donna
Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 29, 2024, at 6:47 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

Donna,
I am deeply sorry this situation is so frustrating.
I  also respect your personal choices for your personal enjoyment of what the  
Homepods provide for you.
Hopefully others will provide a path not requiring you to reconfigure 
everything from scratch.
Downloading an older edition of the software seems odd indeed.
Karen




On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:


First of all, it appears that getting a full-sized one wouldn’t solve the 
problem.  In the discussions I saw on the internet, both devices were 
mentioned.  Second, when we’re in the kitchen, we’re usually also doing other 
things, so there’s no real need to spend the money for full-sized HomePod.
Donna


On Mar 29, 2024, at 1:47 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:


Ah, an understandable reason.
Thanks for sharing.
Curious why not simply getting a second full sized homepod would not work 
though?
Speaking personally if I ever reach that level of need, that they are not sold  
in pairs automatically will either insure I get them, or skip the process all 
together smiles.
but hey I sill play my music on a stereo.




On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:



We had one full-sized HomePod in the kitchen, which served as our primary hub, 
and another in the family room.  We decided that in the kitchen we could do 
with just a mini, and that would allow us to move the kitchen HomePod to the 
Family room and create a stereo pair.
Donna


On Mar 29, 2024, at 1:23 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

,Donna,
I have a question.
what need motivated your adding this new homepod in the first place?
What in your current set up was no longer working to your  satisfaction leading 
to your needing a new option?
Just curious, especially given  this latest chapter.
Kare



On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:


Hi again all,

So, late last night I finally got my new Mini to download a more current 
software version by connecting it to My Mac and using Finder.  However, for 
reasons I can’t begin to fathom, it downloaded 17.2, instead of 17.4, which is 
what the rest of my Home is running.  I have my HomePods set to update 
automatically, so I figured I’d just set it up, and it would update 
automatically overnight.  But apparently that was too much to hope for.  
Instead, it made a wreck of my home in the Home app.  I have devices that have 
had multiple names, as I have moved them to different rooms.  All those devices 
reverted back to an older name.  And none of my accessories, other than the 
HomePods are responding.  Does anyone have an idea what happened or thoughts on 
a possible fix?  I’d really love to avoid deleting my Home and setting it up 
from scratch.
TIA,
Donna

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Re: More on the HomePod from hell

2024-04-05 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Donna,
Well good for you keeping those speakers. I think I’ve heard of Sonos amps, and 
I imagine they’re pretty pricey. I still have my old Adcom power amp and a 
preamp that dates from Gali sometime in the 80s maybe. A long time ago. It 
sounds great. But there’s no Bluetooth or anything anywhere, hence the 
HomePods. Like you, I used to have a giant collection of albums and then CDs. 
The albums are gone as is my beloved B and O turntable, and I ripped all the 
CDs into whatever lossless codec was at the time back when I had a Mac. 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 30, 2024, at 6:46 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> I wish I knew for sure.  I think some of my trouble was created by me.  I had 
> the “clever” idea Thursday night that if I could pair it with my old iPhone 
> 7, which I still keep around as a music player, it wouldn’t connect to our 
> home, but should be able to connect to our wireless network.  My hope was 
> that that would allow it to update, which would then allow me to reset it, 
> and set it up again using my iPhone 14 pro.  But, and I don’t totally 
> understand this, when you reset a HomePod, it still holds on to some of your 
> settings. So when I connected it to my Mac, it downloaded software version 
> 17.2, which, though not the current version was current enough for it to 
> connect with our home.  But, it still seemed to have had stuff from the 
> earlier pairing, so instead of updating, somehow it seems to have downgraded 
> our Home software, which meant that nothing worked. I do know that something 
> like that happened because after I finally got it to work yesterday, I was 
> prompted again to upgrade everything to the new home infrastructure.  At that 
> point it was late, and I was tired, so I reset the HomePod and went to bed, 
> leaving the Mini unplugged overnight and all the next morning.  When I 
> finally had time to get back to it, the setup worked.  It got setup in our 
> home, and then immediately updated.
> 
> By the way, re your stereo, we solved that problem by buying a Sonos amp.  My 
> husband built a pair of speakers when he was in college, and to this day I 
> think they’re some of the best speakers I’ve heard.  So, even though we 
> wanted to go to a wireless system, there was no way we were giving up those 
> speakers.  I don’t remember the price of the amp, but it works very well, and 
> gives us the option of having my husband’s speakers in our Home setup.  Just 
> thought I’d let you know that’s an option, in case it’s of interest. 
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 11:18 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> So how did you get your problem resolved, Donna? I know they finally figured 
>> out a way to charge iPhones in the store which is a good thing, since that 
>> caused a big mess. I don’t think they’ve done that with HomePods. So how did 
>> you get yours done? I still have my pair of old HomePods connected in the 
>> front room. I love old-fashioned stereo, and the HomePods don’t compare with 
>> my big fat great stereo speakers. The only problem is, they don’t make 
>> equipment that connects like that anymore unless you want to spend we big 
>> bucks. So, we’re stuck with all this wireless crap. This is not progress, 
>> but what can you do?
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 7:45 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Karen. It all worked out in the end. Well I respect your choice to 
>>> continue using your stereo, personally I love voice control. I love that I 
>>> can use it to do things and get more stuff done. We all choose the 
>>> technology that is most comfortable for us. Well I recognize that HomePods 
>>> may not be your choice, they were mine. And when we purchased this HomePod 
>>> mini, we had no expectation of the trials that awaited us. I do think 
>>> apples quality control has gone downhill a lot, and I think this is just 
>>> the latest example of that, unfortunately.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 6:47 PM, Karen Lewellen  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Donna,
>>>> I am deeply sorry this situation is so frustrating.
>>>> I  also respect your personal choices for your personal enjoyment of what 
>>>> the  Homepods provide for you.
>>>> Hopefully others will provide a path not requiring you to reconfigure 
>>>> everything from scratch.
>>>> Downloading an older edition of the software seems odd indeed.
>>>> Karen
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>&

Re: Warning to anyone looking to buy a HomePod: apparently Apple thinks it's OK to sell paperweights disguised as Homepods

2024-03-31 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi Matthew,I haven’t had any problems like that, but I never play music from my Mac. I always either play it using Siri, or using my phone. And none of our HomePods ever drop out, unless we’ve been having network issues.Cheers,DonnaSent from my iPhoneOn Mar 31, 2024, at 1:57 PM, Matthew Dyer  wrote:

  

  
  
Hi,


I have had my current homepod for several years and it works well
  with really only one problem which I have yet to figure out.  When
  playing music on any of my macs, the device will just randomly
  drop out for some reason.  I have consitered getting a mini, but
  have not desided yet.  I have a electa which works with my sirius
  XM account as well as my thurmastate.  Its certainly an intresting
  issue with my music cutting out.  This does not happen with my
  ipad mini 5.


Matthew




On 3/31/24 12:18 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via
  MacVisionaries wrote:

Actually,
  the HomePod is a good product.  The problem isn’t that the HomePod
  was defective, it’s that Apple shouldn’t ship them out without
  first upgrading them to a software version supported by HomeKit.
  
  
  In terms of performance, once it’s connected to Home, it does
quite well, I think.  We used to have Sonos speakers, and they
were constantly dropping out and needing to be reconnected or
reset.  I don’t have any of that with the HomePods.  Also, I
think Apple does a much better job of managing security than
Amazon Alexa does.
  Cheers,
  Donna

  
On Mar 31, 2024, at 11:09 AM, Michael Irons
   wrote:


  Hello everybody I am inclined to agree
with Anders Holmberg about the HomePod. I don’t want to
get HomePod either. It sounds like Apple has turned out
something that has some pretty serious defects in it. I
am getting along with a Google home speaker and an Alexa
device that my dad invited me to take with me when I
moved out of his house. I also have a Google home hub
which seems to work pretty good. Both of these devices
can be updated. I would hope that Apple would understand
about their defective product and work on a remedy to
fix it. I feel bad for those people that were
unfortunate enough to get a HomePod. 

Sent from my iPhone

  On Mar 31, 2024, at 10:57 AM,
Anders Holmberg  wrote:

  


  Hi!
I don’t want to get a HomePod.
Not for this reason but I do not need it.
However it seems very very clunky and
  unacceptable to me.
I once was an apple fanboy but now a days I am
  not a fanboy of any brand.
Bless.
/A
  

  29 mars 2024 kl. 02:43 skrev 'Donna
Goodin' via MacVisionaries
:
  
  
Hi all,
  
  
  I just wanted to share this with the
list, as it could potentially impact
anyone considering the purchase of a
HomePod or HomePod mini.  Feel free to
share with anyone who might benefit.
  
  
  After spending an entire afternoon
trying to set up our new HomePod mini, I
found the following article.  Buyer
beware!  Apparently Apple thinks it’s
just fine to sell these things.  I plan
on returning mine, and will only buy
another if the people at the Apple Store
can definitively prove that it is
running a more recent software version

Re: Warning to anyone looking to buy a HomePod: apparently Apple thinks it's OK to sell paperweights disguised as Homepods

2024-03-31 Thread Matthew Dyer

Hi,


I have had my current homepod for several years and it works well with 
really only one problem which I have yet to figure out.  When playing 
music on any of my macs, the device will just randomly drop out for some 
reason.  I have consitered getting a mini, but have not desided yet.  I 
have a electa which works with my sirius XM account as well as my 
thurmastate.  Its certainly an intresting issue with my music cutting 
out.  This does not happen with my ipad mini 5.



Matthew



On 3/31/24 12:18 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
Actually, the HomePod is a good product.  The problem isn’t that the 
HomePod was defective, it’s that Apple shouldn’t ship them out without 
first upgrading them to a software version supported by HomeKit.


In terms of performance, once it’s connected to Home, it does quite 
well, I think.  We used to have Sonos speakers, and they were 
constantly dropping out and needing to be reconnected or reset.  I 
don’t have any of that with the HomePods.  Also, I think Apple does a 
much better job of managing security than Amazon Alexa does.

Cheers,
Donna


On Mar 31, 2024, at 11:09 AM, Michael Irons  wrote:

Hello everybody I am inclined to agree with Anders Holmberg about the 
HomePod. I don’t want to get HomePod either. It sounds like Apple has 
turned out something that has some pretty serious defects in it. I am 
getting along with a Google home speaker and an Alexa device that my 
dad invited me to take with me when I moved out of his house. I also 
have a Google home hub which seems to work pretty good. Both of these 
devices can be updated. I would hope that Apple would understand 
about their defective product and work on a remedy to fix it. I feel 
bad for those people that were unfortunate enough to get a HomePod.


Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 31, 2024, at 10:57 AM, Anders Holmberg 
 wrote:


Hi!
I don’t want to get a HomePod.
Not for this reason but I do not need it.
However it seems very very clunky and unacceptable to me.
I once was an apple fanboy but now a days I am not a fanboy of any 
brand.

Bless.
/A

29 mars 2024 kl. 02:43 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
:


Hi all,

I just wanted to share this with the list, as it could potentially 
impact anyone considering the purchase of a HomePod or HomePod 
mini.  Feel free to share with anyone who might benefit.


After spending an entire afternoon trying to set up our new HomePod 
mini, I found the following article.  Buyer beware!  Apparently 
Apple thinks it’s just fine to sell these things.  I plan on 
returning mine, and will only buy another if the people at the 
Apple Store can definitively prove that it is running a more recent 
software version.


Apple Details What to Do If You Can't Update HomePod When Advanced 
Data Protection Is Enabled 
<https://www.macrumors.com/2023/01/20/homepod-bug-advanced-data-protection/#>
macrumors.com 
<https://www.macrumors.com/2023/01/20/homepod-bug-advanced-data-protection/#>


<https://www.macrumors.com/2023/01/20/homepod-bug-advanced-data-protection/#>

The text of the article follows:

To use Advanced Data Protection for iCloud, all the devices logged 
into your Apple ID require a minimum software version. That 
includes HomePod speakers, which must be running at least HomePod 
software 16.2.


However, according to /Bloomberg/'s Mark Gurman 
<https://twitter.com/markgurman/status/1616115559715975168>, there 
is a bug in the Home app that prevents HomePods running older 
versions of the software from being updated if iCloud end-to-end 
encryption has been turned on.


This means anyone buying a HomePod that ships with an OS older than 
16.2 won't be able to set it up, because doing so first requires an 
update.


Apple's support document explains what options are available to 
customers facing this predicament. If the speaker in question is a 
HomePod mini, users can connect it to a Mac via the USB-C cable and 
update it through Finder (or iTunes on a PC) by selecting the 
HomePod in the Finder sidebar and clicking the *Restore 
HomePod* option. This will update the speaker to the latest 
software, after which it can be properly set up.


The full-size first-generation HomePod and the new 2023 HomePod 
have no USB-C port, so unless Apple includes a fix in iOS 16.3, 
which is expected to be released next week, owners of these 
speakers will have to temporarily turn off Advanced Data Protection 
to update the HomePod software. Apple outlines how to do that in 
the following way:


 1. Turn off Advanced Data Protection in iCloud settings on your
iPhone, iPad, or Mac: In *Settings* or *System Settings*, tap
your name, then tap *iCloud*. Scroll to *Advanced Data
Protection* and turn off *Advanced Data Protection*.
 2. If you received an error message when you previously tried to
set up your HomePod, you may need to reset your HomePod
<https://www.macrumors.com/how-to/reset-your-homepod/>. Then

Re: Warning to anyone looking to buy a HomePod: apparently Apple thinks it's OK to sell paperweights disguised as Homepods

2024-03-31 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Actually, the HomePod is a good product.  The problem isn’t that the HomePod 
was defective, it’s that Apple shouldn’t ship them out without first upgrading 
them to a software version supported by HomeKit.

In terms of performance, once it’s connected to Home, it does quite well, I 
think.  We used to have Sonos speakers, and they were constantly dropping out 
and needing to be reconnected or reset.  I don’t have any of that with the 
HomePods.  Also, I think Apple does a much better job of managing security than 
Amazon Alexa does.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Mar 31, 2024, at 11:09 AM, Michael Irons  wrote:
> 
> Hello everybody I am inclined to agree with Anders Holmberg about the 
> HomePod. I don’t want to get HomePod either. It sounds like Apple has turned 
> out something that has some pretty serious defects in it. I am getting along 
> with a Google home speaker and an Alexa device that my dad invited me to take 
> with me when I moved out of his house. I also have a Google home hub which 
> seems to work pretty good. Both of these devices can be updated. I would hope 
> that Apple would understand about their defective product and work on a 
> remedy to fix it. I feel bad for those people that were unfortunate enough to 
> get a HomePod. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 31, 2024, at 10:57 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I don’t want to get a HomePod.
>> Not for this reason but I do not need it.
>> However it seems very very clunky and unacceptable to me.
>> I once was an apple fanboy but now a days I am not a fanboy of any brand.
>> Bless.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 29 mars 2024 kl. 02:43 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I just wanted to share this with the list, as it could potentially impact 
>>> anyone considering the purchase of a HomePod or HomePod mini.  Feel free to 
>>> share with anyone who might benefit.
>>> 
>>> After spending an entire afternoon trying to set up our new HomePod mini, I 
>>> found the following article.  Buyer beware!  Apparently Apple thinks it’s 
>>> just fine to sell these things.  I plan on returning mine, and will only 
>>> buy another if the people at the Apple Store can definitively prove that it 
>>> is running a more recent software version.
>>> https://www.macrumors.com/2023/01/20/homepod-bug-advanced-data-protection/#
>>> The text of the article follows:
>>> 
>>> To use Advanced Data Protection for iCloud, all the devices logged into 
>>> your Apple ID require a minimum software version. That includes HomePod 
>>> speakers, which must be running at least HomePod software 16.2. 
>>> 
>>> However, according to Bloomberg's Mark Gurman 
>>> <https://twitter.com/markgurman/status/1616115559715975168>, there is a bug 
>>> in the Home app that prevents HomePods running older versions of the 
>>> software from being updated if iCloud end-to-end encryption has been turned 
>>> on.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This means anyone buying a HomePod that ships with an OS older than 16.2 
>>> won't be able to set it up, because doing so first requires an update.
>>> 
>>> Apple's support document explains what options are available to customers 
>>> facing this predicament. If the speaker in question is a HomePod mini, 
>>> users can connect it to a Mac via the USB-C cable and update it through 
>>> Finder (or iTunes on a PC) by selecting the HomePod in the Finder sidebar 
>>> and clicking the Restore HomePod option. This will update the speaker to 
>>> the latest software, after which it can be properly set up.
>>> 
>>> The full-size first-generation HomePod and the new 2023 HomePod have no 
>>> USB-C port, so unless Apple includes a fix in iOS 16.3, which is expected 
>>> to be released next week, owners of these speakers will have to temporarily 
>>> turn off Advanced Data Protection to update the HomePod software. Apple 
>>> outlines how to do that in the following way:
>>> 
>>> Turn off Advanced Data Protection in iCloud settings on your iPhone, iPad, 
>>> or Mac: In Settings or System Settings, tap your name, then tap iCloud. 
>>> Scroll to Advanced Data Protection and turn off Advanced Data Protection.
>>> If you received an error message when you previously tried to set up your 
>>> HomePod, you may need to reset your HomePod 
>>> <https://www.macrumors.com/how-to/reset-your-homepod/>. Then set up your 
>>> HomePod <https://www.macrumors.com/how-to/how-to-set-up-your-n

Re: Warning to anyone looking to buy a HomePod: apparently Apple thinks it's OK to sell paperweights disguised as Homepods

2024-03-31 Thread Michael Irons
Hello everybody I am inclined to agree with Anders Holmberg about the HomePod. I don’t want to get HomePod either. It sounds like Apple has turned out something that has some pretty serious defects in it. I am getting along with a Google home speaker and an Alexa device that my dad invited me to take with me when I moved out of his house. I also have a Google home hub which seems to work pretty good. Both of these devices can be updated. I would hope that Apple would understand about their defective product and work on a remedy to fix it. I feel bad for those people that were unfortunate enough to get a HomePod. Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 31, 2024, at 10:57 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:Hi!I don’t want to get a HomePod.Not for this reason but I do not need it.However it seems very very clunky and unacceptable to me.I once was an apple fanboy but now a days I am not a fanboy of any brand.Bless./A29 mars 2024 kl. 02:43 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries :Hi all,I just wanted to share this with the list, as it could potentially impact anyone considering the purchase of a HomePod or HomePod mini.  Feel free to share with anyone who might benefit.After spending an entire afternoon trying to set up our new HomePod mini, I found the following article.  Buyer beware!  Apparently Apple thinks it’s just fine to sell these things.  I plan on returning mine, and will only buy another if the people at the Apple Store can definitively prove that it is running a more recent software version.Apple Details What to Do If You Can't Update HomePod When Advanced Data Protection Is Enabledmacrumors.comThe text of the article follows:To use Advanced Data Protection for iCloud, all the devices logged into your Apple ID require a minimum software version. That includes HomePod speakers, which must be running at least HomePod software 16.2. However, according to Bloomberg's Mark Gurman, there is a bug in the Home app that prevents HomePods running older versions of the software from being updated if iCloud end-to-end encryption has been turned on.This means anyone buying a HomePod that ships with an OS older than 16.2 won't be able to set it up, because doing so first requires an update.Apple's support document explains what options are available to customers facing this predicament. If the speaker in question is a HomePod mini, users can connect it to a Mac via the USB-C cable and update it through Finder (or iTunes on a PC) by selecting the HomePod in the Finder sidebar and clicking the Restore HomePod option. This will update the speaker to the latest software, after which it can be properly set up.The full-size first-generation HomePod and the new 2023 HomePod have no USB-C port, so unless Apple includes a fix in iOS 16.3, which is expected to be released next week, owners of these speakers will have to temporarily turn off Advanced Data Protection to update the HomePod software. Apple outlines how to do that in the following way:Turn off Advanced Data Protection in iCloud settings on your iPhone, iPad, or Mac: In Settings or System Settings, tap your name, then tap iCloud. Scroll to Advanced Data Protection and turn off Advanced Data Protection.If you received an error message when you previously tried to set up your HomePod, you may need to reset your HomePod. Then set up your HomePod.Update your HomePod to the latest software using the Home app. Turn on Advanced Data Protection in iCloud settings on your iPhone, iPad, or Mac: In Settings or System Settings, tap your name, then tap iCloud. Scroll to Advanced Data Protection and turn on Advanced Data Protection.Apple advises anyone who temporarily turns off Advanced Data Protection to turn it back on immediately after their HomePod software is updated.Best, Donna

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Re: Warning to anyone looking to buy a HomePod: apparently Apple thinks it's OK to sell paperweights disguised as Homepods

2024-03-31 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
I don’t want to get a HomePod.
Not for this reason but I do not need it.
However it seems very very clunky and unacceptable to me.
I once was an apple fanboy but now a days I am not a fanboy of any brand.
Bless.
/A

> 29 mars 2024 kl. 02:43 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I just wanted to share this with the list, as it could potentially impact 
> anyone considering the purchase of a HomePod or HomePod mini.  Feel free to 
> share with anyone who might benefit.
> 
> After spending an entire afternoon trying to set up our new HomePod mini, I 
> found the following article.  Buyer beware!  Apparently Apple thinks it’s 
> just fine to sell these things.  I plan on returning mine, and will only buy 
> another if the people at the Apple Store can definitively prove that it is 
> running a more recent software version.
> https://www.macrumors.com/2023/01/20/homepod-bug-advanced-data-protection/#
> The text of the article follows:
> 
> To use Advanced Data Protection for iCloud, all the devices logged into your 
> Apple ID require a minimum software version. That includes HomePod speakers, 
> which must be running at least HomePod software 16.2. 
> 
> However, according to Bloomberg's Mark Gurman 
> <https://twitter.com/markgurman/status/1616115559715975168>, there is a bug 
> in the Home app that prevents HomePods running older versions of the software 
> from being updated if iCloud end-to-end encryption has been turned on.
> 
> 
> This means anyone buying a HomePod that ships with an OS older than 16.2 
> won't be able to set it up, because doing so first requires an update.
> 
> Apple's support document explains what options are available to customers 
> facing this predicament. If the speaker in question is a HomePod mini, users 
> can connect it to a Mac via the USB-C cable and update it through Finder (or 
> iTunes on a PC) by selecting the HomePod in the Finder sidebar and clicking 
> the Restore HomePod option. This will update the speaker to the latest 
> software, after which it can be properly set up.
> 
> The full-size first-generation HomePod and the new 2023 HomePod have no USB-C 
> port, so unless Apple includes a fix in iOS 16.3, which is expected to be 
> released next week, owners of these speakers will have to temporarily turn 
> off Advanced Data Protection to update the HomePod software. Apple outlines 
> how to do that in the following way:
> 
> Turn off Advanced Data Protection in iCloud settings on your iPhone, iPad, or 
> Mac: In Settings or System Settings, tap your name, then tap iCloud. Scroll 
> to Advanced Data Protection and turn off Advanced Data Protection.
> If you received an error message when you previously tried to set up your 
> HomePod, you may need to reset your HomePod 
> <https://www.macrumors.com/how-to/reset-your-homepod/>. Then set up your 
> HomePod <https://www.macrumors.com/how-to/how-to-set-up-your-new-homepod/>.
> Update your HomePod to the latest software using the Home app. 
> Turn on Advanced Data Protection in iCloud settings on your iPhone, iPad, or 
> Mac: In Settings or System Settings, tap your name, then tap iCloud. Scroll 
> to Advanced Data Protection and turn on Advanced Data Protection.
> Apple advises anyone who temporarily turns off Advanced Data Protection to 
> turn it back on immediately after their HomePod software is updated.
> 
> Best, Donna
> 
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Re: More on the HomePod from hell

2024-03-31 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Thanks, Mark.  Yeah, it was beyond ridiculous, but at least the ending was a 
happy one. :)
Cheers,
Donna

> On Mar 30, 2024, at 9:26 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Donna,
> 
> I've been following this thread and I am so glad you got everything up and 
> running.  What a chore.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2024 6:46 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: More on the HomePod from hell
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> I wish I knew for sure.  I think some of my trouble was created by me.  I had 
> the “clever” idea Thursday night that if I could pair it with my old iPhone 
> 7, which I still keep around as a music player, it wouldn’t connect to our 
> home, but should be able to connect to our wireless network.  My hope was 
> that that would allow it to update, which would then allow me to reset it, 
> and set it up again using my iPhone 14 pro.  But, and I don’t totally 
> understand this, when you reset a HomePod, it still holds on to some of your 
> settings. So when I connected it to my Mac, it downloaded software version 
> 17.2, which, though not the current version was current enough for it to 
> connect with our home.  But, it still seemed to have had stuff from the 
> earlier pairing, so instead of updating, somehow it seems to have downgraded 
> our Home software, which meant that nothing worked. I do know that something 
> like that happened because after I finally got it to work yesterday, I was 
> prompted again to upgrade everything to the new home infrastructure.  At that 
> point it was late, and I was tired, so I reset the HomePod and went to bed, 
> leaving the Mini unplugged overnight and all the next morning.  When I 
> finally had time to get back to it, the setup worked.  It got setup in our 
> home, and then immediately updated.
> 
> By the way, re your stereo, we solved that problem by buying a Sonos amp.  My 
> husband built a pair of speakers when he was in college, and to this day I 
> think they’re some of the best speakers I’ve heard.  So, even though we 
> wanted to go to a wireless system, there was no way we were giving up those 
> speakers.  I don’t remember the price of the amp, but it works very well, and 
> gives us the option of having my husband’s speakers in our Home setup.  Just 
> thought I’d let you know that’s an option, in case it’s of interest.  
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 11:18 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> So how did you get your problem resolved, Donna? I know they finally figured 
>> out a way to charge iPhones in the store which is a good thing, since that 
>> caused a big mess. I don’t think they’ve done that with HomePods. So how did 
>> you get yours done? I still have my pair of old HomePods connected in the 
>> front room. I love old-fashioned stereo, and the HomePods don’t compare with 
>> my big fat great stereo speakers. The only problem is, they don’t make 
>> equipment that connects like that anymore unless you want to spend we big 
>> bucks. So, we’re stuck with all this wireless crap. This is not progress, 
>> but what can you do? 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 7:45 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Karen. It all worked out in the end. Well I respect your choice to 
>>> continue using your stereo, personally I love voice control. I love that I 
>>> can use it to do things and get more stuff done. We all choose the 
>>> technology that is most comfortable for us. Well I recognize that HomePods 
>>> may not be your choice, they were mine. And when we purchased this HomePod 
>>> mini, we had no expectation of the trials that awaited us. I do think 
>>> apples quality control has gone downhill a lot, and I think this is just 
>>> the latest example of that, unfortunately.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 6:47 PM, Karen Lewellen  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Donna,
>>>> I am deeply sorry this situation is so frustrating.
>>>> I  also respect your personal choices for your personal enjoyment of what 
>>>> the  Homepods provide for you.
>>>> Hopefully others will provide a path not requiring you to reconfigure 
>>>> everything from scratch.
>>>> Downloading an older edition of the software seems odd indeed.
>>>> Karen
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>>&g

RE: More on the HomePod from hell

2024-03-30 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Donna,

I've been following this thread and I am so glad you got everything up and 
running.  What a chore.

Mark


-Original Message-
From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2024 6:46 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: More on the HomePod from hell

Hi Mary,

I wish I knew for sure.  I think some of my trouble was created by me.  I had 
the “clever” idea Thursday night that if I could pair it with my old iPhone 7, 
which I still keep around as a music player, it wouldn’t connect to our home, 
but should be able to connect to our wireless network.  My hope was that that 
would allow it to update, which would then allow me to reset it, and set it up 
again using my iPhone 14 pro.  But, and I don’t totally understand this, when 
you reset a HomePod, it still holds on to some of your settings. So when I 
connected it to my Mac, it downloaded software version 17.2, which, though not 
the current version was current enough for it to connect with our home.  But, 
it still seemed to have had stuff from the earlier pairing, so instead of 
updating, somehow it seems to have downgraded our Home software, which meant 
that nothing worked. I do know that something like that happened because after 
I finally got it to work yesterday, I was prompted again to upgrade everything 
to the new home infrastructure.  At that point it was late, and I was tired, so 
I reset the HomePod and went to bed, leaving the Mini unplugged overnight and 
all the next morning.  When I finally had time to get back to it, the setup 
worked.  It got setup in our home, and then immediately updated.

By the way, re your stereo, we solved that problem by buying a Sonos amp.  My 
husband built a pair of speakers when he was in college, and to this day I 
think they’re some of the best speakers I’ve heard.  So, even though we wanted 
to go to a wireless system, there was no way we were giving up those speakers.  
I don’t remember the price of the amp, but it works very well, and gives us the 
option of having my husband’s speakers in our Home setup.  Just thought I’d let 
you know that’s an option, in case it’s of interest.  
Cheers,
Donna
> On Mar 29, 2024, at 11:18 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> So how did you get your problem resolved, Donna? I know they finally figured 
> out a way to charge iPhones in the store which is a good thing, since that 
> caused a big mess. I don’t think they’ve done that with HomePods. So how did 
> you get yours done? I still have my pair of old HomePods connected in the 
> front room. I love old-fashioned stereo, and the HomePods don’t compare with 
> my big fat great stereo speakers. The only problem is, they don’t make 
> equipment that connects like that anymore unless you want to spend we big 
> bucks. So, we’re stuck with all this wireless crap. This is not progress, but 
> what can you do? 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 7:45 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks, Karen. It all worked out in the end. Well I respect your choice to 
>> continue using your stereo, personally I love voice control. I love that I 
>> can use it to do things and get more stuff done. We all choose the 
>> technology that is most comfortable for us. Well I recognize that HomePods 
>> may not be your choice, they were mine. And when we purchased this HomePod 
>> mini, we had no expectation of the trials that awaited us. I do think apples 
>> quality control has gone downhill a lot, and I think this is just the latest 
>> example of that, unfortunately.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 6:47 PM, Karen Lewellen  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Donna,
>>> I am deeply sorry this situation is so frustrating.
>>> I  also respect your personal choices for your personal enjoyment of what 
>>> the  Homepods provide for you.
>>> Hopefully others will provide a path not requiring you to reconfigure 
>>> everything from scratch.
>>> Downloading an older edition of the software seems odd indeed.
>>> Karen
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> First of all, it appears that getting a full-sized one wouldn’t solve the 
>>>> problem.  In the discussions I saw on the internet, both devices were 
>>>> mentioned.  Second, when we’re in the kitchen, we’re usually also doing 
>>>> other things, so there’s no real need to spend the money for full-sized 
>>>> HomePod.
>>>> Donna
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 1:47 PM, Karen Lewellen  
>>>>>> wrote:
>

Re: More on the HomePod from hell

2024-03-30 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi Karen,

I *love vinyl, but boy I don’t miss storing all that. :). I had a *huge* album 
collection back in the day, which was later replaced by a pretty sizable CD 
collection. Although they’re smaller, the storage was starting to get on my 
nerves.  I’ve kept some of my favorite cds, mostly because our internet goes 
out frequently.  When that happens, we have an AB switch connected to the 
speakers my husband built, that switches between the Sonos amp—connected to our 
home system—and a CD player.  So in a way we have the best of both worlds. :)
Cheers,
Donna

> On Mar 29, 2024, at 9:59 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> 
> YOu are welcome Donna,
> I do resonate with your  feelings about apple quality control.
> These devices are not personally options for me just now, a secondary 
> disability experience making them unsafe to use.
> Still, I have  my cozy stereo near my sofa, where music is, for me a physical 
> experience holding album covers and cd cases  rich with memories, and hours 
> of  both songwriting and music making..and you have your voice control smiles.
> Glad there was a solution in the end.
> Karen
> 
> 
> On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> 
>> Thanks, Karen. It all worked out in the end. Well I respect your choice to 
>> continue using your stereo, personally I love voice control. I love that I 
>> can use it to do things and get more stuff done. We all choose the 
>> technology that is most comfortable for us. Well I recognize that HomePods 
>> may not be your choice, they were mine. And when we purchased this HomePod 
>> mini, we had no expectation of the trials that awaited us. I do think apples 
>> quality control has gone downhill a lot, and I think this is just the latest 
>> example of that, unfortunately.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 6:47 PM, Karen Lewellen  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Donna,
>>> I am deeply sorry this situation is so frustrating.
>>> I  also respect your personal choices for your personal enjoyment of what 
>>> the  Homepods provide for you.
>>> Hopefully others will provide a path not requiring you to reconfigure 
>>> everything from scratch.
>>> Downloading an older edition of the software seems odd indeed.
>>> Karen
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> First of all, it appears that getting a full-sized one wouldn’t solve the 
>>>> problem.  In the discussions I saw on the internet, both devices were 
>>>> mentioned.  Second, when we’re in the kitchen, we’re usually also doing 
>>>> other things, so there’s no real need to spend the money for full-sized 
>>>> HomePod.
>>>> Donna
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 1:47 PM, Karen Lewellen  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ah, an understandable reason.
>>>>> Thanks for sharing.
>>>>> Curious why not simply getting a second full sized homepod would not work 
>>>>> though?
>>>>> Speaking personally if I ever reach that level of need, that they are not 
>>>>> sold  in pairs automatically will either insure I get them, or skip the 
>>>>> process all together smiles.
>>>>> but hey I sill play my music on a stereo.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> We had one full-sized HomePod in the kitchen, which served as our 
>>>>>> primary hub, and another in the family room.  We decided that in the 
>>>>>> kitchen we could do with just a mini, and that would allow us to move 
>>>>>> the kitchen HomePod to the Family room and create a stereo pair.
>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 1:23 PM, Karen Lewellen  
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ,Donna,
>>>>>>> I have a question.
>>>>>>> what need motivated your adding this new homepod in the first place?
>>>>>>> What in your current set up was no longer working to your  satisfaction 
>>>>>>> leading to your needing a new option?
>>>>>>> Just curious, especially given  this latest chapter.
>>>>>>> Kare
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>&

Re: More on the HomePod from hell

2024-03-30 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi Mary,

I wish I knew for sure.  I think some of my trouble was created by me.  I had 
the “clever” idea Thursday night that if I could pair it with my old iPhone 7, 
which I still keep around as a music player, it wouldn’t connect to our home, 
but should be able to connect to our wireless network.  My hope was that that 
would allow it to update, which would then allow me to reset it, and set it up 
again using my iPhone 14 pro.  But, and I don’t totally understand this, when 
you reset a HomePod, it still holds on to some of your settings. So when I 
connected it to my Mac, it downloaded software version 17.2, which, though not 
the current version was current enough for it to connect with our home.  But, 
it still seemed to have had stuff from the earlier pairing, so instead of 
updating, somehow it seems to have downgraded our Home software, which meant 
that nothing worked. I do know that something like that happened because after 
I finally got it to work yesterday, I was prompted again to upgrade everything 
to the new home infrastructure.  At that point it was late, and I was tired, so 
I reset the HomePod and went to bed, leaving the Mini unplugged overnight and 
all the next morning.  When I finally had time to get back to it, the setup 
worked.  It got setup in our home, and then immediately updated.

By the way, re your stereo, we solved that problem by buying a Sonos amp.  My 
husband built a pair of speakers when he was in college, and to this day I 
think they’re some of the best speakers I’ve heard.  So, even though we wanted 
to go to a wireless system, there was no way we were giving up those speakers.  
I don’t remember the price of the amp, but it works very well, and gives us the 
option of having my husband’s speakers in our Home setup.  Just thought I’d let 
you know that’s an option, in case it’s of interest.  
Cheers,
Donna
> On Mar 29, 2024, at 11:18 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> So how did you get your problem resolved, Donna? I know they finally figured 
> out a way to charge iPhones in the store which is a good thing, since that 
> caused a big mess. I don’t think they’ve done that with HomePods. So how did 
> you get yours done? I still have my pair of old HomePods connected in the 
> front room. I love old-fashioned stereo, and the HomePods don’t compare with 
> my big fat great stereo speakers. The only problem is, they don’t make 
> equipment that connects like that anymore unless you want to spend we big 
> bucks. So, we’re stuck with all this wireless crap. This is not progress, but 
> what can you do? 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 7:45 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks, Karen. It all worked out in the end. Well I respect your choice to 
>> continue using your stereo, personally I love voice control. I love that I 
>> can use it to do things and get more stuff done. We all choose the 
>> technology that is most comfortable for us. Well I recognize that HomePods 
>> may not be your choice, they were mine. And when we purchased this HomePod 
>> mini, we had no expectation of the trials that awaited us. I do think apples 
>> quality control has gone downhill a lot, and I think this is just the latest 
>> example of that, unfortunately.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 6:47 PM, Karen Lewellen  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Donna,
>>> I am deeply sorry this situation is so frustrating.
>>> I  also respect your personal choices for your personal enjoyment of what 
>>> the  Homepods provide for you.
>>> Hopefully others will provide a path not requiring you to reconfigure 
>>> everything from scratch.
>>> Downloading an older edition of the software seems odd indeed.
>>> Karen
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> First of all, it appears that getting a full-sized one wouldn’t solve the 
>>>> problem.  In the discussions I saw on the internet, both devices were 
>>>> mentioned.  Second, when we’re in the kitchen, we’re usually also doing 
>>>> other things, so there’s no real need to spend the money for full-sized 
>>>> HomePod.
>>>> Donna
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 1:47 PM, Karen Lewellen  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ah, an understandable reason.
>>>>> Thanks for sharing.
>>>>> Curious why not simply getting a second full sized homepod would not work 
>>>>> though?
>>>>> Speaking personally if I ever reach that level of need, that they are

Re: More on the HomePod from hell

2024-03-29 Thread Mary Otten
So how did you get your problem resolved, Donna? I know they finally figured 
out a way to charge iPhones in the store which is a good thing, since that 
caused a big mess. I don’t think they’ve done that with HomePods. So how did 
you get yours done? I still have my pair of old HomePods connected in the front 
room. I love old-fashioned stereo, and the HomePods don’t compare with my big 
fat great stereo speakers. The only problem is, they don’t make equipment that 
connects like that anymore unless you want to spend we big bucks. So, we’re 
stuck with all this wireless crap. This is not progress, but what can you do? 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 29, 2024, at 7:45 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Karen. It all worked out in the end. Well I respect your choice to 
> continue using your stereo, personally I love voice control. I love that I 
> can use it to do things and get more stuff done. We all choose the technology 
> that is most comfortable for us. Well I recognize that HomePods may not be 
> your choice, they were mine. And when we purchased this HomePod mini, we had 
> no expectation of the trials that awaited us. I do think apples quality 
> control has gone downhill a lot, and I think this is just the latest example 
> of that, unfortunately.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 6:47 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
>> 
>> Donna,
>> I am deeply sorry this situation is so frustrating.
>> I  also respect your personal choices for your personal enjoyment of what 
>> the  Homepods provide for you.
>> Hopefully others will provide a path not requiring you to reconfigure 
>> everything from scratch.
>> Downloading an older edition of the software seems odd indeed.
>> Karen
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> 
>>> First of all, it appears that getting a full-sized one wouldn’t solve the 
>>> problem.  In the discussions I saw on the internet, both devices were 
>>> mentioned.  Second, when we’re in the kitchen, we’re usually also doing 
>>> other things, so there’s no real need to spend the money for full-sized 
>>> HomePod.
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 1:47 PM, Karen Lewellen  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Ah, an understandable reason.
>>>> Thanks for sharing.
>>>> Curious why not simply getting a second full sized homepod would not work 
>>>> though?
>>>> Speaking personally if I ever reach that level of need, that they are not 
>>>> sold  in pairs automatically will either insure I get them, or skip the 
>>>> process all together smiles.
>>>> but hey I sill play my music on a stereo.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> We had one full-sized HomePod in the kitchen, which served as our primary 
>>>>> hub, and another in the family room.  We decided that in the kitchen we 
>>>>> could do with just a mini, and that would allow us to move the kitchen 
>>>>> HomePod to the Family room and create a stereo pair.
>>>>> Donna
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 1:23 PM, Karen Lewellen  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ,Donna,
>>>>>> I have a question.
>>>>>> what need motivated your adding this new homepod in the first place?
>>>>>> What in your current set up was no longer working to your  satisfaction 
>>>>>> leading to your needing a new option?
>>>>>> Just curious, especially given  this latest chapter.
>>>>>> Kare
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi again all,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So, late last night I finally got my new Mini to download a more 
>>>>>>> current software version by connecting it to My Mac and using Finder.  
>>>>>>> However, for reasons I can’t begin to fathom, it downloaded 17.2, 
>>>>>>> instead of 17.4, which is what the rest of my Home is running.  I have 
>>>>>>> my HomePods set to update automatically, so I figured I’d just set it 
>>>>>>> up, and it would update automatically overnight.  But apparently that 
>>>>

Re: More on the HomePod from hell

2024-03-29 Thread Karen Lewellen

YOu are welcome Donna,
I do resonate with your  feelings about apple quality control.
These devices are not personally options for me just now, a secondary 
disability experience making them unsafe to use.
Still, I have  my cozy stereo near my sofa, where music is, for me a 
physical experience holding album covers and cd cases  rich with memories, 
and hours of  both songwriting and music making..and you have your voice 
control smiles.

Glad there was a solution in the end.
Karen


On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:


Thanks, Karen. It all worked out in the end. Well I respect your choice to 
continue using your stereo, personally I love voice control. I love that I can 
use it to do things and get more stuff done. We all choose the technology that 
is most comfortable for us. Well I recognize that HomePods may not be your 
choice, they were mine. And when we purchased this HomePod mini, we had no 
expectation of the trials that awaited us. I do think apples quality control 
has gone downhill a lot, and I think this is just the latest example of that, 
unfortunately.
Cheers,
Donna
Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 29, 2024, at 6:47 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

Donna,
I am deeply sorry this situation is so frustrating.
I  also respect your personal choices for your personal enjoyment of what the  
Homepods provide for you.
Hopefully others will provide a path not requiring you to reconfigure 
everything from scratch.
Downloading an older edition of the software seems odd indeed.
Karen




On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

First of all, it appears that getting a full-sized one wouldn’t solve the 
problem.  In the discussions I saw on the internet, both devices were 
mentioned.  Second, when we’re in the kitchen, we’re usually also doing other 
things, so there’s no real need to spend the money for full-sized HomePod.
Donna


On Mar 29, 2024, at 1:47 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:


Ah, an understandable reason.
Thanks for sharing.
Curious why not simply getting a second full sized homepod would not work 
though?
Speaking personally if I ever reach that level of need, that they are not sold  
in pairs automatically will either insure I get them, or skip the process all 
together smiles.
but hey I sill play my music on a stereo.




On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:



We had one full-sized HomePod in the kitchen, which served as our primary hub, 
and another in the family room.  We decided that in the kitchen we could do 
with just a mini, and that would allow us to move the kitchen HomePod to the 
Family room and create a stereo pair.
Donna


On Mar 29, 2024, at 1:23 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

,Donna,
I have a question.
what need motivated your adding this new homepod in the first place?
What in your current set up was no longer working to your  satisfaction leading 
to your needing a new option?
Just curious, especially given  this latest chapter.
Kare



On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:


Hi again all,

So, late last night I finally got my new Mini to download a more current 
software version by connecting it to My Mac and using Finder.  However, for 
reasons I can’t begin to fathom, it downloaded 17.2, instead of 17.4, which is 
what the rest of my Home is running.  I have my HomePods set to update 
automatically, so I figured I’d just set it up, and it would update 
automatically overnight.  But apparently that was too much to hope for.  
Instead, it made a wreck of my home in the Home app.  I have devices that have 
had multiple names, as I have moved them to different rooms.  All those devices 
reverted back to an older name.  And none of my accessories, other than the 
HomePods are responding.  Does anyone have an idea what happened or thoughts on 
a possible fix?  I’d really love to avoid deleting my Home and setting it up 
from scratch.
TIA,
Donna

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Re: More on the HomePod from hell

2024-03-29 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Thanks, Karen. It all worked out in the end. Well I respect your choice to 
continue using your stereo, personally I love voice control. I love that I can 
use it to do things and get more stuff done. We all choose the technology that 
is most comfortable for us. Well I recognize that HomePods may not be your 
choice, they were mine. And when we purchased this HomePod mini, we had no 
expectation of the trials that awaited us. I do think apples quality control 
has gone downhill a lot, and I think this is just the latest example of that, 
unfortunately.
Cheers,
Donna 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 29, 2024, at 6:47 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> 
> Donna,
> I am deeply sorry this situation is so frustrating.
> I  also respect your personal choices for your personal enjoyment of what the 
>  Homepods provide for you.
> Hopefully others will provide a path not requiring you to reconfigure 
> everything from scratch.
> Downloading an older edition of the software seems odd indeed.
> Karen
> 
> 
> 
>> On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> 
>> First of all, it appears that getting a full-sized one wouldn’t solve the 
>> problem.  In the discussions I saw on the internet, both devices were 
>> mentioned.  Second, when we’re in the kitchen, we’re usually also doing 
>> other things, so there’s no real need to spend the money for full-sized 
>> HomePod.
>> Donna
>> 
>>>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 1:47 PM, Karen Lewellen  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ah, an understandable reason.
>>> Thanks for sharing.
>>> Curious why not simply getting a second full sized homepod would not work 
>>> though?
>>> Speaking personally if I ever reach that level of need, that they are not 
>>> sold  in pairs automatically will either insure I get them, or skip the 
>>> process all together smiles.
>>> but hey I sill play my music on a stereo.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> 
>>>> We had one full-sized HomePod in the kitchen, which served as our primary 
>>>> hub, and another in the family room.  We decided that in the kitchen we 
>>>> could do with just a mini, and that would allow us to move the kitchen 
>>>> HomePod to the Family room and create a stereo pair.
>>>> Donna
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 1:23 PM, Karen Lewellen  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> ,Donna,
>>>>> I have a question.
>>>>> what need motivated your adding this new homepod in the first place?
>>>>> What in your current set up was no longer working to your  satisfaction 
>>>>> leading to your needing a new option?
>>>>> Just curious, especially given  this latest chapter.
>>>>> Kare
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi again all,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So, late last night I finally got my new Mini to download a more current 
>>>>>> software version by connecting it to My Mac and using Finder.  However, 
>>>>>> for reasons I can’t begin to fathom, it downloaded 17.2, instead of 
>>>>>> 17.4, which is what the rest of my Home is running.  I have my HomePods 
>>>>>> set to update automatically, so I figured I’d just set it up, and it 
>>>>>> would update automatically overnight.  But apparently that was too much 
>>>>>> to hope for.  Instead, it made a wreck of my home in the Home app.  I 
>>>>>> have devices that have had multiple names, as I have moved them to 
>>>>>> different rooms.  All those devices reverted back to an older name.  And 
>>>>>> none of my accessories, other than the HomePods are responding.  Does 
>>>>>> anyone have an idea what happened or thoughts on a possible fix?  I’d 
>>>>>> really love to avoid deleting my Home and setting it up from scratch.
>>>>>> TIA,
>>>>>> Donna
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Re: More on the HomePod from hell

2024-03-29 Thread Karen Lewellen

Donna,
I am deeply sorry this situation is so frustrating.
I  also respect your personal choices for your personal enjoyment of what 
the  Homepods provide for you.
Hopefully others will provide a path not requiring you to reconfigure 
everything from scratch.

Downloading an older edition of the software seems odd indeed.
Karen



On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:


First of all, it appears that getting a full-sized one wouldn’t solve the 
problem.  In the discussions I saw on the internet, both devices were 
mentioned.  Second, when we’re in the kitchen, we’re usually also doing other 
things, so there’s no real need to spend the money for full-sized HomePod.
Donna


On Mar 29, 2024, at 1:47 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

Ah, an understandable reason.
Thanks for sharing.
Curious why not simply getting a second full sized homepod would not work 
though?
Speaking personally if I ever reach that level of need, that they are not sold  
in pairs automatically will either insure I get them, or skip the process all 
together smiles.
but hey I sill play my music on a stereo.



On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:


We had one full-sized HomePod in the kitchen, which served as our primary hub, 
and another in the family room.  We decided that in the kitchen we could do 
with just a mini, and that would allow us to move the kitchen HomePod to the 
Family room and create a stereo pair.
Donna


On Mar 29, 2024, at 1:23 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

,Donna,
I have a question.
what need motivated your adding this new homepod in the first place?
What in your current set up was no longer working to your  satisfaction leading 
to your needing a new option?
Just curious, especially given  this latest chapter.
Kare



On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:


Hi again all,

So, late last night I finally got my new Mini to download a more current 
software version by connecting it to My Mac and using Finder.  However, for 
reasons I can’t begin to fathom, it downloaded 17.2, instead of 17.4, which is 
what the rest of my Home is running.  I have my HomePods set to update 
automatically, so I figured I’d just set it up, and it would update 
automatically overnight.  But apparently that was too much to hope for.  
Instead, it made a wreck of my home in the Home app.  I have devices that have 
had multiple names, as I have moved them to different rooms.  All those devices 
reverted back to an older name.  And none of my accessories, other than the 
HomePods are responding.  Does anyone have an idea what happened or thoughts on 
a possible fix?  I’d really love to avoid deleting my Home and setting it up 
from scratch.
TIA,
Donna

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Re: More on the HomePod from hell

2024-03-29 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
First of all, it appears that getting a full-sized one wouldn’t solve the 
problem.  In the discussions I saw on the internet, both devices were 
mentioned.  Second, when we’re in the kitchen, we’re usually also doing other 
things, so there’s no real need to spend the money for full-sized HomePod.
Donna

> On Mar 29, 2024, at 1:47 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> 
> Ah, an understandable reason.
> Thanks for sharing.
> Curious why not simply getting a second full sized homepod would not work 
> though?
> Speaking personally if I ever reach that level of need, that they are not 
> sold  in pairs automatically will either insure I get them, or skip the 
> process all together smiles.
> but hey I sill play my music on a stereo.
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> 
>> We had one full-sized HomePod in the kitchen, which served as our primary 
>> hub, and another in the family room.  We decided that in the kitchen we 
>> could do with just a mini, and that would allow us to move the kitchen 
>> HomePod to the Family room and create a stereo pair.
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 1:23 PM, Karen Lewellen  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ,Donna,
>>> I have a question.
>>> what need motivated your adding this new homepod in the first place?
>>> What in your current set up was no longer working to your  satisfaction 
>>> leading to your needing a new option?
>>> Just curious, especially given  this latest chapter.
>>> Kare
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi again all,
>>>> 
>>>> So, late last night I finally got my new Mini to download a more current 
>>>> software version by connecting it to My Mac and using Finder.  However, 
>>>> for reasons I can’t begin to fathom, it downloaded 17.2, instead of 17.4, 
>>>> which is what the rest of my Home is running.  I have my HomePods set to 
>>>> update automatically, so I figured I’d just set it up, and it would update 
>>>> automatically overnight.  But apparently that was too much to hope for.  
>>>> Instead, it made a wreck of my home in the Home app.  I have devices that 
>>>> have had multiple names, as I have moved them to different rooms.  All 
>>>> those devices reverted back to an older name.  And none of my accessories, 
>>>> other than the HomePods are responding.  Does anyone have an idea what 
>>>> happened or thoughts on a possible fix?  I’d really love to avoid deleting 
>>>> my Home and setting it up from scratch.
>>>> TIA,
>>>> Donna
>>>> 
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Re: More on the HomePod from hell

2024-03-29 Thread Karen Lewellen

Ah, an understandable reason.
Thanks for sharing.
Curious why not simply getting a second full sized homepod would not work 
though?
Speaking personally if I ever reach that level of need, that they are not 
sold  in pairs automatically will either insure I get them, or skip the 
process all together smiles.

but hey I sill play my music on a stereo.



On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:


We had one full-sized HomePod in the kitchen, which served as our primary hub, 
and another in the family room.  We decided that in the kitchen we could do 
with just a mini, and that would allow us to move the kitchen HomePod to the 
Family room and create a stereo pair.
Donna


On Mar 29, 2024, at 1:23 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

,Donna,
I have a question.
what need motivated your adding this new homepod in the first place?
What in your current set up was no longer working to your  satisfaction leading 
to your needing a new option?
Just curious, especially given  this latest chapter.
Kare



On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:


Hi again all,

So, late last night I finally got my new Mini to download a more current 
software version by connecting it to My Mac and using Finder.  However, for 
reasons I can’t begin to fathom, it downloaded 17.2, instead of 17.4, which is 
what the rest of my Home is running.  I have my HomePods set to update 
automatically, so I figured I’d just set it up, and it would update 
automatically overnight.  But apparently that was too much to hope for.  
Instead, it made a wreck of my home in the Home app.  I have devices that have 
had multiple names, as I have moved them to different rooms.  All those devices 
reverted back to an older name.  And none of my accessories, other than the 
HomePods are responding.  Does anyone have an idea what happened or thoughts on 
a possible fix?  I’d really love to avoid deleting my Home and setting it up 
from scratch.
TIA,
Donna

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Re: More on the HomePod from hell

2024-03-29 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
We had one full-sized HomePod in the kitchen, which served as our primary hub, 
and another in the family room.  We decided that in the kitchen we could do 
with just a mini, and that would allow us to move the kitchen HomePod to the 
Family room and create a stereo pair.
Donna

> On Mar 29, 2024, at 1:23 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> 
> ,Donna,
> I have a question.
> what need motivated your adding this new homepod in the first place?
> What in your current set up was no longer working to your  satisfaction 
> leading to your needing a new option?
> Just curious, especially given  this latest chapter.
> Kare
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> 
>> Hi again all,
>> 
>> So, late last night I finally got my new Mini to download a more current 
>> software version by connecting it to My Mac and using Finder.  However, for 
>> reasons I can’t begin to fathom, it downloaded 17.2, instead of 17.4, which 
>> is what the rest of my Home is running.  I have my HomePods set to update 
>> automatically, so I figured I’d just set it up, and it would update 
>> automatically overnight.  But apparently that was too much to hope for.  
>> Instead, it made a wreck of my home in the Home app.  I have devices that 
>> have had multiple names, as I have moved them to different rooms.  All those 
>> devices reverted back to an older name.  And none of my accessories, other 
>> than the HomePods are responding.  Does anyone have an idea what happened or 
>> thoughts on a possible fix?  I’d really love to avoid deleting my Home and 
>> setting it up from scratch.
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: More on the HomePod from hell

2024-03-29 Thread Karen Lewellen

,Donna,
I have a question.
what need motivated your adding this new homepod in the first place?
What in your current set up was no longer working to your  satisfaction 
leading to your needing a new option?

Just curious, especially given  this latest chapter.
Kare



On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:


Hi again all,

So, late last night I finally got my new Mini to download a more current 
software version by connecting it to My Mac and using Finder.  However, for 
reasons I can’t begin to fathom, it downloaded 17.2, instead of 17.4, which is 
what the rest of my Home is running.  I have my HomePods set to update 
automatically, so I figured I’d just set it up, and it would update 
automatically overnight.  But apparently that was too much to hope for.  
Instead, it made a wreck of my home in the Home app.  I have devices that have 
had multiple names, as I have moved them to different rooms.  All those devices 
reverted back to an older name.  And none of my accessories, other than the 
HomePods are responding.  Does anyone have an idea what happened or thoughts on 
a possible fix?  I’d really love to avoid deleting my Home and setting it up 
from scratch.
TIA,
Donna

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More on the HomePod from hell

2024-03-29 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi again all,

So, late last night I finally got my new Mini to download a more current 
software version by connecting it to My Mac and using Finder.  However, for 
reasons I can’t begin to fathom, it downloaded 17.2, instead of 17.4, which is 
what the rest of my Home is running.  I have my HomePods set to update 
automatically, so I figured I’d just set it up, and it would update 
automatically overnight.  But apparently that was too much to hope for.  
Instead, it made a wreck of my home in the Home app.  I have devices that have 
had multiple names, as I have moved them to different rooms.  All those devices 
reverted back to an older name.  And none of my accessories, other than the 
HomePods are responding.  Does anyone have an idea what happened or thoughts on 
a possible fix?  I’d really love to avoid deleting my Home and setting it up 
from scratch.
TIA,
Donna

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Warning to anyone looking to buy a HomePod: apparently Apple thinks it's OK to sell paperweights disguised as Homepods

2024-03-28 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi all,

I just wanted to share this with the list, as it could potentially impact 
anyone considering the purchase of a HomePod or HomePod mini.  Feel free to 
share with anyone who might benefit.

After spending an entire afternoon trying to set up our new HomePod mini, I 
found the following article.  Buyer beware!  Apparently Apple thinks it’s just 
fine to sell these things.  I plan on returning mine, and will only buy another 
if the people at the Apple Store can definitively prove that it is running a 
more recent software version.
https://www.macrumors.com/2023/01/20/homepod-bug-advanced-data-protection/#
Apple Details What to Do If You Can't Update HomePod When Advanced Data 
Protection Is Enabled
macrumors.com

The text of the article follows:

To use Advanced Data Protection for iCloud, all the devices logged into your 
Apple ID require a minimum software version. That includes HomePod speakers, 
which must be running at least HomePod software 16.2. 

However, according to Bloomberg's Mark Gurman 
<https://twitter.com/markgurman/status/1616115559715975168>, there is a bug in 
the Home app that prevents HomePods running older versions of the software from 
being updated if iCloud end-to-end encryption has been turned on.


This means anyone buying a HomePod that ships with an OS older than 16.2 won't 
be able to set it up, because doing so first requires an update.

Apple's support document explains what options are available to customers 
facing this predicament. If the speaker in question is a HomePod mini, users 
can connect it to a Mac via the USB-C cable and update it through Finder (or 
iTunes on a PC) by selecting the HomePod in the Finder sidebar and clicking the 
Restore HomePod option. This will update the speaker to the latest software, 
after which it can be properly set up.

The full-size first-generation HomePod and the new 2023 HomePod have no USB-C 
port, so unless Apple includes a fix in iOS 16.3, which is expected to be 
released next week, owners of these speakers will have to temporarily turn off 
Advanced Data Protection to update the HomePod software. Apple outlines how to 
do that in the following way:

Turn off Advanced Data Protection in iCloud settings on your iPhone, iPad, or 
Mac: In Settings or System Settings, tap your name, then tap iCloud. Scroll to 
Advanced Data Protection and turn off Advanced Data Protection.
If you received an error message when you previously tried to set up your 
HomePod, you may need to reset your HomePod 
<https://www.macrumors.com/how-to/reset-your-homepod/>. Then set up your 
HomePod <https://www.macrumors.com/how-to/how-to-set-up-your-new-homepod/>.
Update your HomePod to the latest software using the Home app. 
Turn on Advanced Data Protection in iCloud settings on your iPhone, iPad, or 
Mac: In Settings or System Settings, tap your name, then tap iCloud. Scroll to 
Advanced Data Protection and turn on Advanced Data Protection.
Apple advises anyone who temporarily turns off Advanced Data Protection to turn 
it back on immediately after their HomePod software is updated.

Best, Donna

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More on Homepod

2024-03-28 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
So apparently the problem I’m having is well-documented.  Apple seems to think 
it’s fine to ship out HomePods with old software that cannot then be updated, 
because they can’t connect to the home network.  GRRR.

I read an article suggesting that you can update a HomePod in this situation by 
connecting it to your Mac via USB, and then accessing it either via Find or 
iTunes and Clicking Restore.  I tried that, but I can’t see the device in 
either iTunes or Finder.  Anyone know how to do this?
TIA,
Donna

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Re: Problem setting up HomePod Mini

2024-03-28 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Did that.  Also reset the Mini 3 different times.  I’ve also called Apple 
Support.  Seems this is a known issue.  The Mini was shipped with software 
version 15.3, and cannot update to the new home infrastructure, which is what 
everything else in my home is running..
Best,
Donna

> On Mar 28, 2024, at 5:09 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
> 
> Try unplugging and replugging in the unit.
> 
>> On Mar 28, 2024, at 15:51, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I recently purchased a new HomePod mini for the kitchen.  When I try to set 
>> it up, I get a message saying the HomePod needs to update, and will not be 
>> available until it’s done.  In the Home app, it’s been saying that the Mini 
>> is “configuring” for about an hour now.  Has anyone seen this?  Does anyone 
>> know what to do about it?  Barring some way to address this issue, I’m 
>> assuming I’ll have to return it, but thought I’d ask here first to see if 
>> anyone knows of a solution.
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: Problem setting up HomePod Mini

2024-03-28 Thread Herbie Allen
Try unplugging and replugging in the unit.

> On Mar 28, 2024, at 15:51, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I recently purchased a new HomePod mini for the kitchen.  When I try to set 
> it up, I get a message saying the HomePod needs to update, and will not be 
> available until it’s done.  In the Home app, it’s been saying that the Mini 
> is “configuring” for about an hour now.  Has anyone seen this?  Does anyone 
> know what to do about it?  Barring some way to address this issue, I’m 
> assuming I’ll have to return it, but thought I’d ask here first to see if 
> anyone knows of a solution.
> TIA,
> Donna
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Problem setting up HomePod Mini

2024-03-28 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi all,

I recently purchased a new HomePod mini for the kitchen.  When I try to set it 
up, I get a message saying the HomePod needs to update, and will not be 
available until it’s done.  In the Home app, it’s been saying that the Mini is 
“configuring” for about an hour now.  Has anyone seen this?  Does anyone know 
what to do about it?  Barring some way to address this issue, I’m assuming I’ll 
have to return it, but thought I’d ask here first to see if anyone knows of a 
solution.
TIA,
Donna

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Re: I've tried multiple times to reset a HomePod. Help please

2023-11-05 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi Jonathan,

Wow, that’s very cool! If you ever learn how she did it, let me know.

And yes, I’m always surprised how long it takes a HomePod to reset.  I’ve reset 
minis often, because I take them with me when I travel.  But HomePods really do 
seem to take a while.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Nov 4, 2023, at 7:36 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> That sounds essentially like what we did, I believe timing is important 
> though. Also, somehow my wife was able to get the HomePod to recognize her 
> iPhone hotspot in addition to our home network, then anytime our provider 
> messes with the router, she is still able to manage the HomePod and redirect 
> it to the home network without rebooting or resetting.
> I wish I could give more details, but I’m not sure how she managed this.
> Also, HomePods take longer to reset to factory than you would expect.
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 4, 2023, at 4:58 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
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>> Hi all,
>> 
>> As I’ve said, I’ve tried multiple times to reset a HomePod with no luck.  
>> I’ve unplugged it, left it unplugged for a minute, the, plugged it in, and 
>> pressed down on the play button, but it doesn’t reset.  Am I doing something 
>> wrong?  Is there some new trick with the update to IOS 17?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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As anyone ever connected a HomePod to a mobile hot spot?

2023-11-05 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi all,

So, got the reset problem resolved, I wasn’t waiting long enough after plugging 
in.  I’m hoping to replace our crappy ISP with a mobile hot spot. (I know, way 
less than ideal, but you don’t know how god awful our ISP is.). Every time I 
get to the point where the HomePod is joining the wifi network, it says it 
can’t.  Anyone know anything about what might be the problem?  My phone and 
computers all connect fine.
TIA,
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Re: I've tried multiple times to reset a HomePod. Help please

2023-11-04 Thread Jonathan Cohn
That sounds essentially like what we did, I believe timing is important though. 
Also, somehow my wife was able to get the HomePod to recognize her iPhone 
hotspot in addition to our home network, then anytime our provider messes with 
the router, she is still able to manage the HomePod and redirect it to the home 
network without rebooting or resetting.
I wish I could give more details, but I’m not sure how she managed this.
Also, HomePods take longer to reset to factory than you would expect.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



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> Hi all,
> 
> As I’ve said, I’ve tried multiple times to reset a HomePod with no luck.  
> I’ve unplugged it, left it unplugged for a minute, the, plugged it in, and 
> pressed down on the play button, but it doesn’t reset.  Am I doing something 
> wrong?  Is there some new trick with the update to IOS 17?
> TIA,
> Donna
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I've tried multiple times to reset a HomePod. Help please

2023-11-04 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi all,

As I’ve said, I’ve tried multiple times to reset a HomePod with no luck.  I’ve 
unplugged it, left it unplugged for a minute, the, plugged it in, and pressed 
down on the play button, but it doesn’t reset.  Am I doing something wrong?  Is 
there some new trick with the update to IOS 17?
TIA,
Donna

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TTJTech Services: Alexa, Stop…’Cause I’ve Got a HomePod!

2023-10-03 Thread Kliph
> Our next Tuesdays With TTJ session, to be held next week on Tuesday, October 
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Re: Can I connect my HomePod to my mobile hot spot

2023-08-04 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
But if you’re accepting the hotel’s conditions, you’re doing so while connected 
to their network.  So wouldn’t that mean that the signal that would be repeated 
would be that of the hotel?  In that case, you would still have to reset the  
HomePod mini, because it wouldn’t be connecting to your home network.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Aug 4, 2023, at 6:13 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Answer is after the question… 
>> On Aug 3, 2023, at 10:02 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Looks interesting, but I don’t see how it repeats your home SSID.  
>> Definitely worth further investigation, though. Thanks!
> You would set it up with that information before leaving. Then when you get 
> to the hotel you have this device talk to the hotel network and all of your 
> devices talk to this one. The difficulty comes when you have one of those 
> hotels that brings up a web page asking you to follow their conditions. My 
> understanding is that you initially accept that with your computer and then 
> make this router look like your computer to the hotel network.
> Of course the other question is how accessible is their control interface.
> I’ll be buying one of these for my next trip, but I don’t have any plans 
> until possibly the end of the year.
> 
>>  
>> 
>>> On Aug 3, 2023, at 7:50 PM, Jonathan Cohn >> <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> OK, I decided to look this up now.
>>> 
>>> Here is a quick video of the device.
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUILw91hiEY=23s
>>> 
>>> And here is a  link to it at Amazon.
>>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08MKZXGBy
>>> If you want to listen to a bunch of nerds discussing how wonderful it is it 
>>> is the last segment of this weeks Accidental Tech Podcast. 
>>> https://atp.fm/546
>>> •  Post-show: [Some] weird things that Casey does 7 of 7 which is probably 
>>> 2 hours into the podcast.
>>>  
>>> Best wishes,
>>> 
>>> Jonathan Cohn
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 3, 2023, at 1:59 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Brad,
>>>> 
>>>> That is what I had to do when I wanted to connect to a hotel network.  But 
>>>> I figured that had something to do with their network.  Apple really ought 
>>>> to make it easier to change networks, especially on the HomePod mini.  
>>>> They’re so small that they’re great for travel, but having to reset them 
>>>> both when you reach your destination and when you return home is a pain.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Donna
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 3, 2023, at 8:51 AM, Brad Snyder >>>> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> My understanding is that to change the wifi network, you have to reset 
>>>>> the HomePod to factory settings, and start over.
>>>>> That is what I had to do when I changed my home wifi network.
>>>>> I’ve never tried it, but it wouldn’t surprise me if the HomePod will not 
>>>>> connect to your iPhone hotspot.
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Brad -
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 3, 2023, at 08:41, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>> >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Well, I guess you can tell by now that we’re having internet issues. Lol
>>>>> 
>>>>> Joe’s post yesterday got me to thinking.  Is there some way to connect a 
>>>>> HomePod to my iPhone’s mobile hot spot?  I’ve googled it, and it looks 
>>>>> like if I click on the Homepod in the Home app, there should be an option 
>>>>> that says Move to that would allow me to tell it to switch networks.  But 
>>>>> I do not see a move option.  Running IOS 16.6.
>>>>> TIA,
>>>>> Donna
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Re: Can I connect my HomePod to my mobile hot spot

2023-08-04 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Answer is after the question… 
> On Aug 3, 2023, at 10:02 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Looks interesting, but I don’t see how it repeats your home SSID.  Definitely 
> worth further investigation, though. Thanks!
You would set it up with that information before leaving. Then when you get to 
the hotel you have this device talk to the hotel network and all of your 
devices talk to this one. The difficulty comes when you have one of those 
hotels that brings up a web page asking you to follow their conditions. My 
understanding is that you initially accept that with your computer and then 
make this router look like your computer to the hotel network.
Of course the other question is how accessible is their control interface.
I’ll be buying one of these for my next trip, but I don’t have any plans until 
possibly the end of the year.

>  
> 
>> On Aug 3, 2023, at 7:50 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
>> 
>> OK, I decided to look this up now.
>> 
>> Here is a quick video of the device.
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUILw91hiEY=23s 
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUILw91hiEY=23s>
>> 
>> And here is a  link to it at Amazon.
>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08MKZXGBy 
>> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08MKZXGBy>
>> If you want to listen to a bunch of nerds discussing how wonderful it is it 
>> is the last segment of this weeks Accidental Tech Podcast. 
>> https://atp.fm/546 <https://atp.fm/546>
>> •  Post-show: [Some] weird things that Casey does 7 of 7 which is probably 2 
>> hours into the podcast.
>>  
>>  Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 3, 2023, at 1:59 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Brad,
>>> 
>>> That is what I had to do when I wanted to connect to a hotel network.  But 
>>> I figured that had something to do with their network.  Apple really ought 
>>> to make it easier to change networks, especially on the HomePod mini.  
>>> They’re so small that they’re great for travel, but having to reset them 
>>> both when you reach your destination and when you return home is a pain.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 3, 2023, at 8:51 AM, Brad Snyder >>> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> My understanding is that to change the wifi network, you have to reset the 
>>>> HomePod to factory settings, and start over.
>>>> That is what I had to do when I changed my home wifi network.
>>>> I’ve never tried it, but it wouldn’t surprise me if the HomePod will not 
>>>> connect to your iPhone hotspot.
>>>> 
>>>> - Brad -
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 3, 2023, at 08:41, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> Well, I guess you can tell by now that we’re having internet issues. Lol
>>>> 
>>>> Joe’s post yesterday got me to thinking.  Is there some way to connect a 
>>>> HomePod to my iPhone’s mobile hot spot?  I’ve googled it, and it looks 
>>>> like if I click on the Homepod in the Home app, there should be an option 
>>>> that says Move to that would allow me to tell it to switch networks.  But 
>>>> I do not see a move option.  Running IOS 16.6.
>>>> TIA,
>>>> Donna
>>>> 
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Re: Can I connect my HomePod to my mobile hot spot

2023-08-03 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Looks interesting, but I don’t see how it repeats your home SSID.  Definitely 
worth further investigation, though. Thanks!
 

> On Aug 3, 2023, at 7:50 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> OK, I decided to look this up now.
> 
> Here is a quick video of the device.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUILw91hiEY=23s
> 
> And here is a  link to it at Amazon.
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08MKZXGBy
> If you want to listen to a bunch of nerds discussing how wonderful it is it 
> is the last segment of this weeks Accidental Tech Podcast. 
> https://atp.fm/546
> •  Post-show: [Some] weird things that Casey does 7 of 7 which is probably 2 
> hours into the podcast.
>  
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 3, 2023, at 1:59 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Brad,
>> 
>> That is what I had to do when I wanted to connect to a hotel network.  But I 
>> figured that had something to do with their network.  Apple really ought to 
>> make it easier to change networks, especially on the HomePod mini.  They’re 
>> so small that they’re great for travel, but having to reset them both when 
>> you reach your destination and when you return home is a pain.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Aug 3, 2023, at 8:51 AM, Brad Snyder >> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> My understanding is that to change the wifi network, you have to reset the 
>>> HomePod to factory settings, and start over.
>>> That is what I had to do when I changed my home wifi network.
>>> I’ve never tried it, but it wouldn’t surprise me if the HomePod will not 
>>> connect to your iPhone hotspot.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 3, 2023, at 08:41, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Well, I guess you can tell by now that we’re having internet issues. Lol
>>> 
>>> Joe’s post yesterday got me to thinking.  Is there some way to connect a 
>>> HomePod to my iPhone’s mobile hot spot?  I’ve googled it, and it looks like 
>>> if I click on the Homepod in the Home app, there should be an option that 
>>> says Move to that would allow me to tell it to switch networks.  But I do 
>>> not see a move option.  Running IOS 16.6.
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
>>> 
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Re: Can I connect my HomePod to my mobile hot spot

2023-08-03 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Oh, that would be great!  Thanks, Jonathan.
Donna

> On Aug 3, 2023, at 5:57 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I was listening I believe to the Accidental Tech Podcast this week where it 
> was mentioned about travel wireless hot spots. These are designed to connect 
> to a hotel network and provide your home SSID and password.
> I believe the vendor was TP.
> I’ll look tomorrow to see if I can find the reference.
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 3, 2023, at 1:59 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Brad,
>> 
>> That is what I had to do when I wanted to connect to a hotel network.  But I 
>> figured that had something to do with their network.  Apple really ought to 
>> make it easier to change networks, especially on the HomePod mini.  They’re 
>> so small that they’re great for travel, but having to reset them both when 
>> you reach your destination and when you return home is a pain.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Aug 3, 2023, at 8:51 AM, Brad Snyder >> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> My understanding is that to change the wifi network, you have to reset the 
>>> HomePod to factory settings, and start over.
>>> That is what I had to do when I changed my home wifi network.
>>> I’ve never tried it, but it wouldn’t surprise me if the HomePod will not 
>>> connect to your iPhone hotspot.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 3, 2023, at 08:41, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Well, I guess you can tell by now that we’re having internet issues. Lol
>>> 
>>> Joe’s post yesterday got me to thinking.  Is there some way to connect a 
>>> HomePod to my iPhone’s mobile hot spot?  I’ve googled it, and it looks like 
>>> if I click on the Homepod in the Home app, there should be an option that 
>>> says Move to that would allow me to tell it to switch networks.  But I do 
>>> not see a move option.  Running IOS 16.6.
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
>>> 
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Re: Can I connect my HomePod to my mobile hot spot

2023-08-03 Thread Jonathan Cohn
OK, I decided to look this up now.

Here is a quick video of the device.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUILw91hiEY=23s

And here is a  link to it at Amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08MKZXGBy
If you want to listen to a bunch of nerds discussing how wonderful it is it is 
the last segment of this weeks Accidental Tech Podcast. 
https://atp.fm/546
•  Post-show: [Some] weird things that Casey does 7 of 7 which is probably 2 
hours into the podcast.
 
Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Aug 3, 2023, at 1:59 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Brad,
> 
> That is what I had to do when I wanted to connect to a hotel network.  But I 
> figured that had something to do with their network.  Apple really ought to 
> make it easier to change networks, especially on the HomePod mini.  They’re 
> so small that they’re great for travel, but having to reset them both when 
> you reach your destination and when you return home is a pain.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Aug 3, 2023, at 8:51 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> My understanding is that to change the wifi network, you have to reset the 
>> HomePod to factory settings, and start over.
>> That is what I had to do when I changed my home wifi network.
>> I’ve never tried it, but it wouldn’t surprise me if the HomePod will not 
>> connect to your iPhone hotspot.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 3, 2023, at 08:41, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Well, I guess you can tell by now that we’re having internet issues. Lol
>> 
>> Joe’s post yesterday got me to thinking.  Is there some way to connect a 
>> HomePod to my iPhone’s mobile hot spot?  I’ve googled it, and it looks like 
>> if I click on the Homepod in the Home app, there should be an option that 
>> says Move to that would allow me to tell it to switch networks.  But I do 
>> not see a move option.  Running IOS 16.6.
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: Can I connect my HomePod to my mobile hot spot

2023-08-03 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Hello,
I was listening I believe to the Accidental Tech Podcast this week where it was 
mentioned about travel wireless hot spots. These are designed to connect to a 
hotel network and provide your home SSID and password.
I believe the vendor was TP.
I’ll look tomorrow to see if I can find the reference.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Aug 3, 2023, at 1:59 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Brad,
> 
> That is what I had to do when I wanted to connect to a hotel network.  But I 
> figured that had something to do with their network.  Apple really ought to 
> make it easier to change networks, especially on the HomePod mini.  They’re 
> so small that they’re great for travel, but having to reset them both when 
> you reach your destination and when you return home is a pain.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Aug 3, 2023, at 8:51 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> My understanding is that to change the wifi network, you have to reset the 
>> HomePod to factory settings, and start over.
>> That is what I had to do when I changed my home wifi network.
>> I’ve never tried it, but it wouldn’t surprise me if the HomePod will not 
>> connect to your iPhone hotspot.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 3, 2023, at 08:41, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Well, I guess you can tell by now that we’re having internet issues. Lol
>> 
>> Joe’s post yesterday got me to thinking.  Is there some way to connect a 
>> HomePod to my iPhone’s mobile hot spot?  I’ve googled it, and it looks like 
>> if I click on the Homepod in the Home app, there should be an option that 
>> says Move to that would allow me to tell it to switch networks.  But I do 
>> not see a move option.  Running IOS 16.6.
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: Can I connect my HomePod to my mobile hot spot

2023-08-03 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi Brad,

That is what I had to do when I wanted to connect to a hotel network.  But I 
figured that had something to do with their network.  Apple really ought to 
make it easier to change networks, especially on the HomePod mini.  They’re so 
small that they’re great for travel, but having to reset them both when you 
reach your destination and when you return home is a pain.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Aug 3, 2023, at 8:51 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> My understanding is that to change the wifi network, you have to reset the 
> HomePod to factory settings, and start over.
> That is what I had to do when I changed my home wifi network.
> I’ve never tried it, but it wouldn’t surprise me if the HomePod will not 
> connect to your iPhone hotspot.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 3, 2023, at 08:41, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Well, I guess you can tell by now that we’re having internet issues. Lol
> 
> Joe’s post yesterday got me to thinking.  Is there some way to connect a 
> HomePod to my iPhone’s mobile hot spot?  I’ve googled it, and it looks like 
> if I click on the Homepod in the Home app, there should be an option that 
> says Move to that would allow me to tell it to switch networks.  But I do not 
> see a move option.  Running IOS 16.6.
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: Can I connect my HomePod to my mobile hot spot

2023-08-03 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Well, there were two issues. First, in the Home app, I did not see any option 
for telling it to connect to a different net work. I also saw no indication 
that it saw my personal hotspot. I did try the thing with my iPad, I was able 
to set it up, but when I pressed play, nothing happened.
Cheers,
Donna

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 3, 2023, at 10:57 AM, Shai  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I will opine here that it would be very strange if a homepod did not
> connect to hotspot. I was able to connect my Echo dot to personal
> hotspot  so I don't see why a homepod would not be able to connect in
> this manner.
> One could also make their computer a wifi access point and connect
> devices to it if the homepod does not accept the hotspot connection
> itself but I think at this point you may want to consider calling
> Apple support to check that this information is accurate.
> 
> 
>> On 8/3/23, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
>>  wrote:
>> Well, I found the following.  It’s old, but I’m about to try it with my
>> iPad.  I’ll let you know if it works.
>> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250123178#:~:text=If%20you%20want%20to%20AirPlay,of%20audio%20for%20the%20HomePod.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>>> On Aug 3, 2023, at 9:07 AM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don’t think it will work either, I wonder though if it would recognize a
>>> mobile hotspot that’s a Wifi Router and not your iPhone.
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 3, 2023, at 06:51, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> My understanding is that to change the wifi network, you have to reset
>>>> the HomePod to factory settings, and start over.
>>>> That is what I had to do when I changed my home wifi network.
>>>> I’ve never tried it, but it wouldn’t surprise me if the HomePod will not
>>>> connect to your iPhone hotspot.
>>>> 
>>>> - Brad -
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 3, 2023, at 08:41, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> Well, I guess you can tell by now that we’re having internet issues. Lol
>>>> 
>>>> Joe’s post yesterday got me to thinking.  Is there some way to connect a
>>>> HomePod to my iPhone’s mobile hot spot?  I’ve googled it, and it looks
>>>> like if I click on the Homepod in the Home app, there should be an option
>>>> that says Move to that would allow me to tell it to switch networks.  But
>>>> I do not see a move option.  Running IOS 16.6.
>>>> TIA,
>>>> Donna
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Re: Can I connect my HomePod to my mobile hot spot

2023-08-03 Thread Shai
Hello,
I will opine here that it would be very strange if a homepod did not
connect to hotspot. I was able to connect my Echo dot to personal
hotspot  so I don't see why a homepod would not be able to connect in
this manner.
One could also make their computer a wifi access point and connect
devices to it if the homepod does not accept the hotspot connection
itself but I think at this point you may want to consider calling
Apple support to check that this information is accurate.


On 8/3/23, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
 wrote:
> Well, I found the following.  It’s old, but I’m about to try it with my
> iPad.  I’ll let you know if it works.
> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250123178#:~:text=If%20you%20want%20to%20AirPlay,of%20audio%20for%20the%20HomePod.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>
>> On Aug 3, 2023, at 9:07 AM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
>>
>> I don’t think it will work either, I wonder though if it would recognize a
>> mobile hotspot that’s a Wifi Router and not your iPhone.
>>
>>> On Aug 3, 2023, at 06:51, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>>>
>>> My understanding is that to change the wifi network, you have to reset
>>> the HomePod to factory settings, and start over.
>>> That is what I had to do when I changed my home wifi network.
>>> I’ve never tried it, but it wouldn’t surprise me if the HomePod will not
>>> connect to your iPhone hotspot.
>>>
>>> - Brad -
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 3, 2023, at 08:41, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Well, I guess you can tell by now that we’re having internet issues. Lol
>>>
>>> Joe’s post yesterday got me to thinking.  Is there some way to connect a
>>> HomePod to my iPhone’s mobile hot spot?  I’ve googled it, and it looks
>>> like if I click on the Homepod in the Home app, there should be an option
>>> that says Move to that would allow me to tell it to switch networks.  But
>>> I do not see a move option.  Running IOS 16.6.
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
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Re: Can I connect my HomePod to my mobile hot spot

2023-08-03 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Well, I found the following.  It’s old, but I’m about to try it with my iPad.  
I’ll let you know if it works.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250123178#:~:text=If%20you%20want%20to%20AirPlay,of%20audio%20for%20the%20HomePod.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Aug 3, 2023, at 9:07 AM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
> 
> I don’t think it will work either, I wonder though if it would recognize a 
> mobile hotspot that’s a Wifi Router and not your iPhone.
> 
>> On Aug 3, 2023, at 06:51, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> My understanding is that to change the wifi network, you have to reset the 
>> HomePod to factory settings, and start over.
>> That is what I had to do when I changed my home wifi network.
>> I’ve never tried it, but it wouldn’t surprise me if the HomePod will not 
>> connect to your iPhone hotspot.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 3, 2023, at 08:41, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Well, I guess you can tell by now that we’re having internet issues. Lol
>> 
>> Joe’s post yesterday got me to thinking.  Is there some way to connect a 
>> HomePod to my iPhone’s mobile hot spot?  I’ve googled it, and it looks like 
>> if I click on the Homepod in the Home app, there should be an option that 
>> says Move to that would allow me to tell it to switch networks.  But I do 
>> not see a move option.  Running IOS 16.6.
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: Can I connect my HomePod to my mobile hot spot

2023-08-03 Thread Herbie Allen
I don’t think it will work either, I wonder though if it would recognize a 
mobile hotspot that’s a Wifi Router and not your iPhone.

> On Aug 3, 2023, at 06:51, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> My understanding is that to change the wifi network, you have to reset the 
> HomePod to factory settings, and start over.
> That is what I had to do when I changed my home wifi network.
> I’ve never tried it, but it wouldn’t surprise me if the HomePod will not 
> connect to your iPhone hotspot.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 3, 2023, at 08:41, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi all,
> 
> Well, I guess you can tell by now that we’re having internet issues. Lol
> 
> Joe’s post yesterday got me to thinking.  Is there some way to connect a 
> HomePod to my iPhone’s mobile hot spot?  I’ve googled it, and it looks like 
> if I click on the Homepod in the Home app, there should be an option that 
> says Move to that would allow me to tell it to switch networks.  But I do not 
> see a move option.  Running IOS 16.6.
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: Can I connect my HomePod to my mobile hot spot

2023-08-03 Thread Brad Snyder
My understanding is that to change the wifi network, you have to reset the 
HomePod to factory settings, and start over.
That is what I had to do when I changed my home wifi network.
I’ve never tried it, but it wouldn’t surprise me if the HomePod will not 
connect to your iPhone hotspot.

- Brad -



On Aug 3, 2023, at 08:41, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi all,

Well, I guess you can tell by now that we’re having internet issues. Lol

Joe’s post yesterday got me to thinking.  Is there some way to connect a 
HomePod to my iPhone’s mobile hot spot?  I’ve googled it, and it looks like if 
I click on the Homepod in the Home app, there should be an option that says 
Move to that would allow me to tell it to switch networks.  But I do not see a 
move option.  Running IOS 16.6.
TIA,
Donna

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Can I connect my HomePod to my mobile hot spot

2023-08-03 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi all,

Well, I guess you can tell by now that we’re having internet issues. Lol

Joe’s post yesterday got me to thinking.  Is there some way to connect a 
HomePod to my iPhone’s mobile hot spot?  I’ve googled it, and it looks like if 
I click on the Homepod in the Home app, there should be an option that says 
Move to that would allow me to tell it to switch networks.  But I do not see a 
move option.  Running IOS 16.6.
TIA,
Donna

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How to force HomePod mini to use a different network than the one from home?

2023-04-01 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi all,

I am traveling, and have brought one of my HomePod minis with me.  I want it to 
use the hotel network.  It used to be the case that you could go into the Home 
app, and tell it to do that, but in IOS 16.4, that option no longer seems to be 
there.  There’s a message that says network mismatch, but I’m not seeing any 
way to resolve it.  Does anyone know how I can do this?  Do I have to reset the 
HomePod?  If yes, that would suck!
Thanks,
Donna

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Anyone tried to play an Apple Fitness workout to a HomePod?

2023-03-09 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi all,

I’ve recently started using the Apple Fitness app with my rowing machine.  I 
really like the app and the workouts, and find it pretty accessible.  But I 
have a question re playing it to my HomePod.  When I hit Airplay in the workout 
screen, all my HomePods show up, and I am able to select the one I want.  But 
after that, there seems to be no way to get out of the Airplay screen, other 
than to exit the Fitness app, close it, and start the workout over.  When I do 
that, it does airplay to my HomePod, but it’s kind of a pain to have to exit 
the app, close it, and go back in.  Has anyone figured out how to play a 
workout to their HomePod and avoid this problem?
TIA,
Donna

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Re: Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 9 to 5 Mac

2023-01-19 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
I have the AirPods Max which is great.
Even though you can buy better headphones for a higher price.
/A

> 19 jan. 2023 kl. 17:33 skrev M. Taylor :
> 
> Hello Anders,
> 
> The short answer to your question is, "no."  
> 
> Even with one device, however, you will hear the full range of audio but, in 
> order to be truly stereo, there needs to be, in this instance, 2 physical 
> devices.
> 
> I am, or course, not referring to a sound bar which, even though one physical 
> device, because of its length, may produce a stereo effect.
> 
> Now that I think about it, when I hold my 14 Pro Max in landscape 
> orientation, there is definitely a stereo effect that is absolutely amazing.
> 
> It is all a matter of degrees.
> 
> Just buy what you can comfortably afford and enjoy it; you will not be 
> disappointed.
> 
> Personally, I have an original HomePod, which is now stored in its original 
> packaging in a closet.
> 
> I am not a fan of Homepod for the simple fact that there is not an audio port.
> 
> My Amazon Echo, fourth gen, already has a built-in temperature sensor, etc. 
> and I love, love, love it.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2023 3:35 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 
> 9 to 5 Mac
> 
> Hi!
> Hmm, can I use just one HomePod for stereo playback?
> I am not a rich man so 2 HomePods are to much for me right now.
> Bless
> /A
> 
>> 19 jan. 2023 kl. 05:35 skrev M. Taylor :
>> 
>> 9 to 5 Mac, Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 1:16 PM
>> 
>> Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 9 to 5 
>> Mac
>> 
>> In a surprise launch, Apple revived its full-size HomePod with a 
>> second-generation model. While the overall design and many of the features 
>> remain the same as the discontinued original, there are new capabilities and 
>> changes. Here’s our full HomePod comparison for a look at HomePod 2 vs the 
>> original vs HomePod mini too.
>> 
>> Background
>> Apple launched the original HomePod back in 2018 at a premium price above 
>> competitors at $349. Just over a year later, Apple cut the price to $299. 
>> Then the HomePod mini arrived in the fall of 2020 with a more 
>> mass-market-focused $99 price before Apple abruptly discontinued the 
>> full-size HomePod in March of 2021.
>> 
>> While many felt the original HomePod was priced too high, it offered 
>> features HomePod mini doesn’t match like richer, louder sound, strong bass, 
>> Dolby Atmos support, beamforming, and room sensing.
>> 
>> Now the full-size HomePod has sprung back to life with the second-gen model 
>> arriving with Thread/Matter support, a temperature/humidity sensor, updated 
>> Apple Silicon chips, and a very minor tweak to the design.
>> 
>> HomePod comparison: New vs original vs mini Audio tech and features
>> 
>> For the main audio features of the HomePod 2, there’s not much different 
>> from the original HomePod (the majority of differences are with smart 
>> features, connectivity, and sensors).
>> 
>> The only difference mentioned by Apple is the computational audio is now 
>> “advanced” with system sensing for real-time tuning while the original 
>> HomePod and HomePod mini have the original computational audio for real-time 
>> tuning.
>> 
>> But it’s great to see Spatial Audio/Dolby Atmos is back with the HomePod 2 
>> since the mini doesn’t offer that.
>> 
>> 
>> HomePod 2HomePod 1   HomePod mini
>> Spatial Audio Dolby Atmos✅   ✅   ❌
>> Room sensing ✅   ✅   ❌
>> Beamforming  ✅   ✅   ❌
>> Stereo pairing (only w/ same speaker and gen)✅   ✅   ✅
>> Real-time tuning Advanced computational audio with system sensing for 
>> real-time tuningComputational audio for real-time tuning   Computational 
>> audio for real-time tuning
>> Multiroom AirPlay audio  ✅   ✅   ✅
>> Home theater with Apple TV 4K✅   ✅   ✅ but no Atmos
>> Auto bass correction ✅   ✅   ❌
>> 
>> One important caveat is that if you want to use HomePods in a stereo pair, 
>> they’ll need to be the same type and generation.
>> Smart home, sensors, connectivity
>> 
>> Here’s where HomePod 2 starts to stand out from the original. The new 
>> full-size smart speaker gets Thread/Matter support, an S7 chip plus U1 for 
>> improved iPhone hando

Re: Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 9 to 5 Mac

2023-01-19 Thread joseph hodge
Stereo means that you’d have two speakers so to answer your question no. You 
can just have one HomePod and it would be mono but still have good sound and 
should be sufficient. That being said some folks like stereo and some folks 
don’t care so its a preference thing.

> On Jan 19, 2023, at 6:34 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Hmm, can I use just one HomePod for stereo playback?
> I am not a rich man so 2 HomePods are to much for me right now.
> Bless
> /A
> 
>> 19 jan. 2023 kl. 05:35 skrev M. Taylor :
>> 
>> 9 to 5 Mac, Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 1:16 PM
>> 
>> Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 9 to 5 Mac
>> 
>> In a surprise launch, Apple revived its full-size HomePod with a 
>> second-generation model. While the overall design and many of the features 
>> remain the same as the discontinued original, there are new capabilities and 
>> changes. Here’s our full HomePod comparison for a look at HomePod 2 vs the 
>> original vs HomePod mini too.
>> 
>> Background
>> Apple launched the original HomePod back in 2018 at a premium price above 
>> competitors at $349. Just over a year later, Apple cut the price to $299. 
>> Then the HomePod mini arrived in the fall of 2020 with a more 
>> mass-market-focused $99 price before Apple abruptly discontinued the 
>> full-size HomePod in March of 2021.
>> 
>> While many felt the original HomePod was priced too high, it offered 
>> features HomePod mini doesn’t match like richer, louder sound, strong bass, 
>> Dolby Atmos support, beamforming, and room sensing.
>> 
>> Now the full-size HomePod has sprung back to life with the second-gen model 
>> arriving with Thread/Matter support, a temperature/humidity sensor, updated 
>> Apple Silicon chips, and a very minor tweak to the design.
>> 
>> HomePod comparison: New vs original vs mini
>> Audio tech and features
>> 
>> For the main audio features of the HomePod 2, there’s not much different 
>> from the original HomePod (the majority of differences are with smart 
>> features, connectivity, and sensors).
>> 
>> The only difference mentioned by Apple is the computational audio is now 
>> “advanced” with system sensing for real-time tuning while the original 
>> HomePod and HomePod mini have the original computational audio for real-time 
>> tuning.
>> 
>> But it’s great to see Spatial Audio/Dolby Atmos is back with the HomePod 2 
>> since the mini doesn’t offer that.
>> 
>> 
>> HomePod 2HomePod 1   HomePod mini
>> Spatial Audio Dolby Atmos✅   ✅   ❌
>> Room sensing ✅   ✅   ❌
>> Beamforming  ✅   ✅   ❌
>> Stereo pairing (only w/ same speaker and gen)✅   ✅   ✅
>> Real-time tuning Advanced computational audio with system sensing for 
>> real-time tuningComputational audio for real-time tuning   Computational 
>> audio for real-time tuning
>> Multiroom AirPlay audio  ✅   ✅   ✅
>> Home theater with Apple TV 4K✅   ✅   ✅ but no Atmos
>> Auto bass correction ✅   ✅   ❌
>> 
>> One important caveat is that if you want to use HomePods in a stereo pair, 
>> they’ll need to be the same type and generation.
>> Smart home, sensors, connectivity
>> 
>> Here’s where HomePod 2 starts to stand out from the original. The new 
>> full-size smart speaker gets Thread/Matter support, an S7 chip plus U1 for 
>> improved iPhone handoffs, plus a temperature/humidity sensor like the 
>> HomePod mini.
>> 
>> HomePod 2 and HomePod mini are also getting Sound Recognition like iPhone – 
>> which is expected to arrive sometime this spring.
>> 
>> HomePod 2HomePod 1   HomePod mini
>> HomeKit + Siri   ✅   ✅   ✅
>> Thread/Matter✅   ❌   ✅
>> WiFi 802.11n 802.11ac802.11n
>> Bluetooth5.0 5.0 5.0
>> U1 chip  ✅   ❌   ✅
>> Apple SiliconS7  A8  S5
>> Sound recognition✅ (likely this spring)  ❌   ✅ (likely this spring)
>> Temperature and humidity sensor  ✅   ❌   ✅
>> Intercom ✅   ✅   ✅
>> 
>> The touch panel on top of the HomePod 2 appears to be similar to the 
>> original but is now slightly recessed like the HomePod mini. The touch 
>> surface also appears to illuminate entirely like the mini.
>> Strangely, Apple downgraded the WiFi chip from 802.11ac to 802.11n. Maybe 
>> it’s thinking Thread will be carrying more weight and it could be tied to 
>> the switch from A-series to S-series Apple Silicon

RE: Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 9 to 5 Mac

2023-01-19 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Anders,

The short answer to your question is, "no."  

Even with one device, however, you will hear the full range of audio but, in 
order to be truly stereo, there needs to be, in this instance, 2 physical 
devices.

I am, or course, not referring to a sound bar which, even though one physical 
device, because of its length, may produce a stereo effect.

Now that I think about it, when I hold my 14 Pro Max in landscape orientation, 
there is definitely a stereo effect that is absolutely amazing.

It is all a matter of degrees.

Just buy what you can comfortably afford and enjoy it; you will not be 
disappointed.

Personally, I have an original HomePod, which is now stored in its original 
packaging in a closet.

I am not a fan of Homepod for the simple fact that there is not an audio port.

My Amazon Echo, fourth gen, already has a built-in temperature sensor, etc. and 
I love, love, love it.

Mark



-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2023 3:35 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 9 
to 5 Mac

Hi!
Hmm, can I use just one HomePod for stereo playback?
I am not a rich man so 2 HomePods are to much for me right now.
Bless
/A

> 19 jan. 2023 kl. 05:35 skrev M. Taylor :
> 
> 9 to 5 Mac, Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 1:16 PM
> 
> Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 9 to 5 
> Mac
> 
> In a surprise launch, Apple revived its full-size HomePod with a 
> second-generation model. While the overall design and many of the features 
> remain the same as the discontinued original, there are new capabilities and 
> changes. Here’s our full HomePod comparison for a look at HomePod 2 vs the 
> original vs HomePod mini too.
> 
> Background
> Apple launched the original HomePod back in 2018 at a premium price above 
> competitors at $349. Just over a year later, Apple cut the price to $299. 
> Then the HomePod mini arrived in the fall of 2020 with a more 
> mass-market-focused $99 price before Apple abruptly discontinued the 
> full-size HomePod in March of 2021.
> 
> While many felt the original HomePod was priced too high, it offered features 
> HomePod mini doesn’t match like richer, louder sound, strong bass, Dolby 
> Atmos support, beamforming, and room sensing.
> 
> Now the full-size HomePod has sprung back to life with the second-gen model 
> arriving with Thread/Matter support, a temperature/humidity sensor, updated 
> Apple Silicon chips, and a very minor tweak to the design.
> 
> HomePod comparison: New vs original vs mini Audio tech and features
> 
> For the main audio features of the HomePod 2, there’s not much different from 
> the original HomePod (the majority of differences are with smart features, 
> connectivity, and sensors).
> 
> The only difference mentioned by Apple is the computational audio is now 
> “advanced” with system sensing for real-time tuning while the original 
> HomePod and HomePod mini have the original computational audio for real-time 
> tuning.
> 
> But it’s great to see Spatial Audio/Dolby Atmos is back with the HomePod 2 
> since the mini doesn’t offer that.
> 
> 
> HomePod 2 HomePod 1   HomePod mini
> Spatial Audio Dolby Atmos ✅   ✅   ❌
> Room sensing  ✅   ✅   ❌
> Beamforming   ✅   ✅   ❌
> Stereo pairing (only w/ same speaker and gen) ✅   ✅   ✅
> Real-time tuning  Advanced computational audio with system sensing for 
> real-time tuningComputational audio for real-time tuning   Computational 
> audio for real-time tuning
> Multiroom AirPlay audio   ✅   ✅   ✅
> Home theater with Apple TV 4K ✅   ✅   ✅ but no Atmos
> Auto bass correction  ✅   ✅   ❌
> 
> One important caveat is that if you want to use HomePods in a stereo pair, 
> they’ll need to be the same type and generation.
> Smart home, sensors, connectivity
> 
> Here’s where HomePod 2 starts to stand out from the original. The new 
> full-size smart speaker gets Thread/Matter support, an S7 chip plus U1 for 
> improved iPhone handoffs, plus a temperature/humidity sensor like the HomePod 
> mini.
> 
> HomePod 2 and HomePod mini are also getting Sound Recognition like iPhone – 
> which is expected to arrive sometime this spring.
> 
> HomePod 2 HomePod 1   HomePod mini
> HomeKit + Siri✅   ✅   ✅
> Thread/Matter ✅   ❌   ✅
> WiFi  802.11n 802.11ac802.11n
> Bluetooth 5.0 5.0 5.0
> U1 chip   ✅   ❌   ✅
> Apple Silicon S7  A8  S5
> Sound recognition ✅ (likely this spring)  ❌   ✅ (likely this spring)
> Temperature and humidity sensor   ✅   ❌

Re: Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 9 to 5 Mac

2023-01-19 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
Hmm, can I use just one HomePod for stereo playback?
I am not a rich man so 2 HomePods are to much for me right now.
Bless
/A

> 19 jan. 2023 kl. 05:35 skrev M. Taylor :
> 
> 9 to 5 Mac, Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 1:16 PM
> 
> Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 9 to 5 Mac
> 
> In a surprise launch, Apple revived its full-size HomePod with a 
> second-generation model. While the overall design and many of the features 
> remain the same as the discontinued original, there are new capabilities and 
> changes. Here’s our full HomePod comparison for a look at HomePod 2 vs the 
> original vs HomePod mini too.
> 
> Background
> Apple launched the original HomePod back in 2018 at a premium price above 
> competitors at $349. Just over a year later, Apple cut the price to $299. 
> Then the HomePod mini arrived in the fall of 2020 with a more 
> mass-market-focused $99 price before Apple abruptly discontinued the 
> full-size HomePod in March of 2021.
> 
> While many felt the original HomePod was priced too high, it offered features 
> HomePod mini doesn’t match like richer, louder sound, strong bass, Dolby 
> Atmos support, beamforming, and room sensing.
> 
> Now the full-size HomePod has sprung back to life with the second-gen model 
> arriving with Thread/Matter support, a temperature/humidity sensor, updated 
> Apple Silicon chips, and a very minor tweak to the design.
> 
> HomePod comparison: New vs original vs mini
> Audio tech and features
> 
> For the main audio features of the HomePod 2, there’s not much different from 
> the original HomePod (the majority of differences are with smart features, 
> connectivity, and sensors).
> 
> The only difference mentioned by Apple is the computational audio is now 
> “advanced” with system sensing for real-time tuning while the original 
> HomePod and HomePod mini have the original computational audio for real-time 
> tuning.
> 
> But it’s great to see Spatial Audio/Dolby Atmos is back with the HomePod 2 
> since the mini doesn’t offer that.
> 
> 
> HomePod 2 HomePod 1   HomePod mini
> Spatial Audio Dolby Atmos ✅   ✅   ❌
> Room sensing  ✅   ✅   ❌
> Beamforming   ✅   ✅   ❌
> Stereo pairing (only w/ same speaker and gen) ✅   ✅   ✅
> Real-time tuning  Advanced computational audio with system sensing for 
> real-time tuningComputational audio for real-time tuning   Computational 
> audio for real-time tuning
> Multiroom AirPlay audio   ✅   ✅   ✅
> Home theater with Apple TV 4K ✅   ✅   ✅ but no Atmos
> Auto bass correction  ✅   ✅   ❌
> 
> One important caveat is that if you want to use HomePods in a stereo pair, 
> they’ll need to be the same type and generation.
> Smart home, sensors, connectivity
> 
> Here’s where HomePod 2 starts to stand out from the original. The new 
> full-size smart speaker gets Thread/Matter support, an S7 chip plus U1 for 
> improved iPhone handoffs, plus a temperature/humidity sensor like the HomePod 
> mini.
> 
> HomePod 2 and HomePod mini are also getting Sound Recognition like iPhone – 
> which is expected to arrive sometime this spring.
> 
> HomePod 2 HomePod 1   HomePod mini
> HomeKit + Siri✅   ✅   ✅
> Thread/Matter ✅   ❌   ✅
> WiFi  802.11n 802.11ac802.11n
> Bluetooth 5.0 5.0 5.0
> U1 chip   ✅   ❌   ✅
> Apple Silicon S7  A8  S5
> Sound recognition ✅ (likely this spring)  ❌   ✅ (likely this spring)
> Temperature and humidity sensor   ✅   ❌   ✅
> Intercom  ✅   ✅   ✅
> 
> The touch panel on top of the HomePod 2 appears to be similar to the original 
> but is now slightly recessed like the HomePod mini. The touch surface also 
> appears to illuminate entirely like the mini.
> Strangely, Apple downgraded the WiFi chip from 802.11ac to 802.11n. Maybe 
> it’s thinking Thread will be carrying more weight and it could be tied to the 
> switch from A-series to S-series Apple Silicon.
> 
> Apple also skips the upgrade to Bluetooth 5.3 on the new HomePod – however, 
> that’s really just used for the setup, not music playback.
> 
> Notably, more new features are coming to all HomePods with the upcoming 16.3 
> release:
> Speakers and mics
> HomePod 2 internals via Apple 
> 
> There are some interesting tweaks when it comes to the speakers and mics. 
> First, Apple hints the high-excursion woofer is bigger. The new HomePod has a 
> 4-inch woofer while the size of the original wasn’t disclosed by Apple.
> 
> Other changes see the 7-array tweeter of the original simplified to 5 for 
> HomePod, and the far-field mics are also reduced from 6 

Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 9 to 5 Mac

2023-01-18 Thread M. Taylor
9 to 5 Mac, Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 1:16 PM

Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 9 to 5 Mac

In a surprise launch, Apple revived its full-size HomePod with a 
second-generation model. While the overall design and many of the features 
remain the same as the discontinued original, there are new capabilities and 
changes. Here’s our full HomePod comparison for a look at HomePod 2 vs the 
original vs HomePod mini too.

Background
Apple launched the original HomePod back in 2018 at a premium price above 
competitors at $349. Just over a year later, Apple cut the price to $299. Then 
the HomePod mini arrived in the fall of 2020 with a more mass-market-focused 
$99 price before Apple abruptly discontinued the full-size HomePod in March of 
2021.

While many felt the original HomePod was priced too high, it offered features 
HomePod mini doesn’t match like richer, louder sound, strong bass, Dolby Atmos 
support, beamforming, and room sensing.

Now the full-size HomePod has sprung back to life with the second-gen model 
arriving with Thread/Matter support, a temperature/humidity sensor, updated 
Apple Silicon chips, and a very minor tweak to the design.

HomePod comparison: New vs original vs mini
Audio tech and features
 
For the main audio features of the HomePod 2, there’s not much different from 
the original HomePod (the majority of differences are with smart features, 
connectivity, and sensors).

The only difference mentioned by Apple is the computational audio is now 
“advanced” with system sensing for real-time tuning while the original HomePod 
and HomePod mini have the original computational audio for real-time tuning.

But it’s great to see Spatial Audio/Dolby Atmos is back with the HomePod 2 
since the mini doesn’t offer that.


HomePod 2   HomePod 1   HomePod mini
Spatial Audio Dolby Atmos   ✅   ✅   ❌
Room sensing✅   ✅   ❌
Beamforming ✅   ✅   ❌
Stereo pairing (only w/ same speaker and gen)   ✅   ✅   ✅
Real-time tuningAdvanced computational audio with system sensing for 
real-time tuningComputational audio for real-time tuning   Computational audio 
for real-time tuning
Multiroom AirPlay audio ✅   ✅   ✅
Home theater with Apple TV 4K   ✅   ✅   ✅ but no Atmos
Auto bass correction✅   ✅   ❌

One important caveat is that if you want to use HomePods in a stereo pair, 
they’ll need to be the same type and generation.
Smart home, sensors, connectivity
 
Here’s where HomePod 2 starts to stand out from the original. The new full-size 
smart speaker gets Thread/Matter support, an S7 chip plus U1 for improved 
iPhone handoffs, plus a temperature/humidity sensor like the HomePod mini.

HomePod 2 and HomePod mini are also getting Sound Recognition like iPhone – 
which is expected to arrive sometime this spring.

HomePod 2   HomePod 1   HomePod mini
HomeKit + Siri  ✅   ✅   ✅
Thread/Matter   ✅   ❌   ✅
WiFi802.11n 802.11ac802.11n
Bluetooth   5.0 5.0 5.0
U1 chip ✅   ❌   ✅
Apple Silicon   S7  A8  S5
Sound recognition   ✅ (likely this spring)  ❌   ✅ (likely this spring)
Temperature and humidity sensor ✅   ❌   ✅
Intercom✅   ✅   ✅

The touch panel on top of the HomePod 2 appears to be similar to the original 
but is now slightly recessed like the HomePod mini. The touch surface also 
appears to illuminate entirely like the mini.
Strangely, Apple downgraded the WiFi chip from 802.11ac to 802.11n. Maybe it’s 
thinking Thread will be carrying more weight and it could be tied to the switch 
from A-series to S-series Apple Silicon.

Apple also skips the upgrade to Bluetooth 5.3 on the new HomePod – however, 
that’s really just used for the setup, not music playback.

Notably, more new features are coming to all HomePods with the upcoming 16.3 
release:
Speakers and mics
 HomePod 2 internals via Apple 

There are some interesting tweaks when it comes to the speakers and mics. 
First, Apple hints the high-excursion woofer is bigger. The new HomePod has a 
4-inch woofer while the size of the original wasn’t disclosed by Apple.

Other changes see the 7-array tweeter of the original simplified to 5 for 
HomePod, and the far-field mics are also reduced from 6 to 4.

HomePod 2   HomePod 1   HomePod mini
Woofer  4-inch high-excursion wooferHigh-excursion woofer   ❌
Speakers5-array horn-loaded tweeters7-array horn-loaded tweeters
Full-range driver and dual passive radiators
Far-field mics  4   6   4

Apple must be confident it has achieved the same or better sound quality, 
output, and input as the original HomePod with fewer tweeters and mics. It 
describes the HomePod 2 as offering “immersive, high-fidelity audio.”

Here’s how Apple describes the new HomePod 2 woofer:
“A high excursion woofer packs HomePod with deep, rich bass. Its powerful motor 
drives the diaphragm a remarkable 20

Re: Using HomePod mini in a hotel?

2022-04-08 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Oh, that’s a bummer.  Ah, well, at least there’s Siri.
Thanks, Tim.
Donna


> On Apr 7, 2022, at 8:17 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> 
> Hi,
> 
> They likely have there network designed so that devices are unable to see 
> each other.  We have that configured for our Guest network at work.  If 
> you’re able to do things with Siri, I’m guessing that’s the best you’ll get.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Apr 7, 2022, at 20:45, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Could be, but I don’t think so.
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 7, 2022, at 5:47 PM, ` >> <mailto:herbie.al...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I wonder if the Hotel has some firewall preventing some of the normal 
>>> functionality.
>>> 
>>> On 4/7/2022 18:04, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> Since I’m going to be staying in a hotel for a while, I brought one of our 
>>>> HomePod minis with me so we could have some tunes.  I’ve got both the 
>>>> HomePod and my phone connected to the Hotel network, but I can’t seem to 
>>>> control the HomePod mini from my phone.  I can issue Siri commands to 
>>>> control it, but if I want to do anything from my phone, the HomePod 
>>>> doesn’t show up in Control Center.  Is there any way to make this work?
>>>> TIA,
>>>> Donna
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: Using HomePod mini in a hotel?

2022-04-07 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi,

They likely have there network designed so that devices are unable to see each 
other.  We have that configured for our Guest network at work.  If you’re able 
to do things with Siri, I’m guessing that’s the best you’ll get.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Apr 7, 2022, at 20:45, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> Could be, but I don’t think so.
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Apr 7, 2022, at 5:47 PM, `  wrote:
>> 
>> I wonder if the Hotel has some firewall preventing some of the normal 
>> functionality.
>> 
>> On 4/7/2022 18:04, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Since I’m going to be staying in a hotel for a while, I brought one of our 
>>> HomePod minis with me so we could have some tunes.  I’ve got both the 
>>> HomePod and my phone connected to the Hotel network, but I can’t seem to 
>>> control the HomePod mini from my phone.  I can issue Siri commands to 
>>> control it, but if I want to do anything from my phone, the HomePod doesn’t 
>>> show up in Control Center.  Is there any way to make this work?
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Using HomePod mini in a hotel?

2022-04-07 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Could be, but I don’t think so.
Donna


> On Apr 7, 2022, at 5:47 PM, `  wrote:
> 
> I wonder if the Hotel has some firewall preventing some of the normal 
> functionality.
> 
> On 4/7/2022 18:04, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Since I’m going to be staying in a hotel for a while, I brought one of our 
>> HomePod minis with me so we could have some tunes.  I’ve got both the 
>> HomePod and my phone connected to the Hotel network, but I can’t seem to 
>> control the HomePod mini from my phone.  I can issue Siri commands to 
>> control it, but if I want to do anything from my phone, the HomePod doesn’t 
>> show up in Control Center.  Is there any way to make this work?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
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Re: Using HomePod mini in a hotel?

2022-04-07 Thread `
I wonder if the Hotel has some firewall preventing some of the normal 
functionality.


On 4/7/2022 18:04, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi all,

Since I’m going to be staying in a hotel for a while, I brought one of our 
HomePod minis with me so we could have some tunes.  I’ve got both the HomePod 
and my phone connected to the Hotel network, but I can’t seem to control the 
HomePod mini from my phone.  I can issue Siri commands to control it, but if I 
want to do anything from my phone, the HomePod doesn’t show up in Control 
Center.  Is there any way to make this work?
TIA,
Donna




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Using HomePod mini in a hotel?

2022-04-07 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi all,

Since I’m going to be staying in a hotel for a while, I brought one of our 
HomePod minis with me so we could have some tunes.  I’ve got both the HomePod 
and my phone connected to the Hotel network, but I can’t seem to control the 
HomePod mini from my phone.  I can issue Siri commands to control it, but if I 
want to do anything from my phone, the HomePod doesn’t show up in Control 
Center.  Is there any way to make this work?
TIA,
Donna


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Re: More HomePod weirdness, can anyone explain?

2022-02-25 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Well, for now, at least, it seems to be resolved.

We have an Orbi mesh network.  We rebooted the modem, and the Orbis, and moved 
our extender a little bit closer to the base unit and to the place where the 
HomePod Is.  That seems to have done the trick, though I still don’t understand 
the iCloud account error or why everything but the HomePod stayed connected.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Feb 25, 2022, at 1:55 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> To me it sounds like a wifi issue with the HomePod itself.
> I don’t have one as they’re not sold in Sweden from what I know.
> /A
> 
>> 25 feb. 2022 kl. 19:51 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> :
>> 
>> So this just gets weirder and weirder.  When I reset the HomePod, all went 
>> as expected until it got to the point where it was transferring settings.  
>> Then I got an error message that the HomePod couldn’t connect to wifi.  I 
>> retried resetting, with no luck.  We have a HomePod that we’re not 
>> using—long story—so I decided to try that one, thinking that perhaps the 
>> wifi in the original one had somehow broken.  That one reset automatically, 
>> but I went through the same thing, all worked well until I got the error 
>> message Unable to Join wifi.  This would lead me to believe that there’s a 
>> problem with our wifi, but  one HomePod, two minis, one Apple TV, five Sonos 
>> speakers, and one iPad are all connected and having no issues.
>> 
>> At this point, I’m clueless.  I don’t even know what to try next.  Anyone 
>> have any thoughts?
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Feb 25, 2022, at 12:00 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> So, last night my kitchen HomePod stopped working … again.  I just now went 
>>> into the Home app, and it said, Kitchen HomePod Account needs attention.  I 
>>> tapped that, and it said I needed to enter my AppleID password. So I did.  
>>> Twice. And both times it said Verification Failed.  The first time I 
>>> Manually entered the password, the second time I entered it from Passwords. 
>>>  Not knowing what else to do, I have unplugged the HomePod, and am about to 
>>> reset it … again.  The weird thing is, both the HomePod minis are working 
>>> just fine.  Anyone have any idea what could be going on here?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donna
>>> 
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Re: More HomePod weirdness, can anyone explain?

2022-02-25 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
To me it sounds like a wifi issue with the HomePod itself.
I don’t have one as they’re not sold in Sweden from what I know.
/A

> 25 feb. 2022 kl. 19:51 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> So this just gets weirder and weirder.  When I reset the HomePod, all went as 
> expected until it got to the point where it was transferring settings.  Then 
> I got an error message that the HomePod couldn’t connect to wifi.  I retried 
> resetting, with no luck.  We have a HomePod that we’re not using—long 
> story—so I decided to try that one, thinking that perhaps the wifi in the 
> original one had somehow broken.  That one reset automatically, but I went 
> through the same thing, all worked well until I got the error message Unable 
> to Join wifi.  This would lead me to believe that there’s a problem with our 
> wifi, but  one HomePod, two minis, one Apple TV, five Sonos speakers, and one 
> iPad are all connected and having no issues.
> 
> At this point, I’m clueless.  I don’t even know what to try next.  Anyone 
> have any thoughts?
> Donna
> 
>> On Feb 25, 2022, at 12:00 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> So, last night my kitchen HomePod stopped working … again.  I just now went 
>> into the Home app, and it said, Kitchen HomePod Account needs attention.  I 
>> tapped that, and it said I needed to enter my AppleID password. So I did.  
>> Twice. And both times it said Verification Failed.  The first time I 
>> Manually entered the password, the second time I entered it from Passwords.  
>> Not knowing what else to do, I have unplugged the HomePod, and am about to 
>> reset it … again.  The weird thing is, both the HomePod minis are working 
>> just fine.  Anyone have any idea what could be going on here?
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
>> 
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Re: More HomePod weirdness, can anyone explain?

2022-02-25 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
So this just gets weirder and weirder.  When I reset the HomePod, all went as 
expected until it got to the point where it was transferring settings.  Then I 
got an error message that the HomePod couldn’t connect to wifi.  I retried 
resetting, with no luck.  We have a HomePod that we’re not using—long story—so 
I decided to try that one, thinking that perhaps the wifi in the original one 
had somehow broken.  That one reset automatically, but I went through the same 
thing, all worked well until I got the error message Unable to Join wifi.  This 
would lead me to believe that there’s a problem with our wifi, but  one 
HomePod, two minis, one Apple TV, five Sonos speakers, and one iPad are all 
connected and having no issues.

At this point, I’m clueless.  I don’t even know what to try next.  Anyone have 
any thoughts?
Donna

> On Feb 25, 2022, at 12:00 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> 
> So, last night my kitchen HomePod stopped working … again.  I just now went 
> into the Home app, and it said, Kitchen HomePod Account needs attention.  I 
> tapped that, and it said I needed to enter my AppleID password. So I did.  
> Twice. And both times it said Verification Failed.  The first time I Manually 
> entered the password, the second time I entered it from Passwords.  Not 
> knowing what else to do, I have unplugged the HomePod, and am about to reset 
> it … again.  The weird thing is, both the HomePod minis are working just 
> fine.  Anyone have any idea what could be going on here?
> Thanks,
> Donna
> 

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More HomePod weirdness, can anyone explain?

2022-02-25 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi all,

So, last night my kitchen HomePod stopped working … again.  I just now went 
into the Home app, and it said, Kitchen HomePod Account needs attention.  I 
tapped that, and it said I needed to enter my AppleID password. So I did.  
Twice. And both times it said Verification Failed.  The first time I Manually 
entered the password, the second time I entered it from Passwords.  Not knowing 
what else to do, I have unplugged the HomePod, and am about to reset it … 
again.  The weird thing is, both the HomePod minis are working just fine.  
Anyone have any idea what could be going on here?
Thanks,
Donna

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Re: HomePod happy again

2021-12-09 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Thanks, anyway, Tim.  I always appreciate your input.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Dec 9, 2021, at 10:37 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> I guess my last message is irrelevant.  Glad it’s working for you now.
> 
> Later…
> 
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>> On Dec 9, 2021, at 08:52, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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>> This morning I was able to get the HomePod back up and running.  I had reset 
>> it last night, but had not removed it from Home.  After I did that this 
>> morning, it reset and is back to normal.  Lesson learned.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
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Re: HomePod happy again

2021-12-09 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi,

I guess my last message is irrelevant.  Glad it’s working for you now.

Later…


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> On Dec 9, 2021, at 08:52, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> 
> This morning I was able to get the HomePod back up and running.  I had reset 
> it last night, but had not removed it from Home.  After I did that this 
> morning, it reset and is back to normal.  Lesson learned.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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Re: Anyone ever had WIFI go bad on a HomePod?

2021-12-09 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi,

No, never seen that yet, and hope I never have to deal with it.  I suggest that 
you reset it, then before you start the setup process, unplug it for at least 5 
minutes.  Then start the setup process once again.  Sometimes, it needs to 
totally power down to properly reset all components.

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> On Dec 8, 2021, at 21:47, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi all,
> 
> One of our HomePods just stopped connecting to the internet.  I’ve tried 
> reseting it, but that did not help.  Has anyone ever seen this?  Anyone have 
> any thoughts on anything else I can try?  Our WIFI is fine - all our other 
> devices work correctly.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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HomePod happy again

2021-12-09 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi all,

This morning I was able to get the HomePod back up and running.  I had reset it 
last night, but had not removed it from Home.  After I did that this morning, 
it reset and is back to normal.  Lesson learned.
Cheers,
Donna

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Anyone ever had WIFI go bad on a HomePod?

2021-12-08 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi all,

One of our HomePods just stopped connecting to the internet.  I’ve tried 
reseting it, but that did not help.  Has anyone ever seen this?  Anyone have 
any thoughts on anything else I can try?  Our WIFI is fine - all our other 
devices work correctly.
Cheers,
Donna

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Re: My HomePod will not play music

2021-12-06 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi,

I’d agree with Donna, in that it is an Apple Music issue and that Apple will 
fix it at their end.  I haven’t noticed this on HomePod, but have noticed it 
both when AirPlaying to a device, and even through Bluetooth to headphones.  I 
haven’t determined the specific pattern, nor why it has issues with specific 
songs, but I’ll do some research to see if there are others on the Net making 
their voices known.

Later…


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> On Dec 5, 2021, at 12:44, matthew dyer  wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> I have the same problemm with airplay.  I am wondering if there is a contact 
> to report this.  I have been dealing with this f9or some time.  It is very 
> ann0oying and have given up on air play for now.
> 
> Matthew
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 5, 2021, at 8:18 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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>> Hi, Mary,
>> 
>> I’m having a similar issue, though it sounds like it’s not as severe as the 
>> one you’re having. Whenever I play a playlist, the Homepod just skips a 
>> bunch of songs.  This morning, this happened, and when I tried to go back to 
>> an earlier title using the Previous Track button, I could only go back so 
>> far, and then it treated that track as though it were the first song in the 
>> playlist, even though it was probably the sixth or seventh track. For me 
>> this started happening some time on Friday.  I’m thinking something must be 
>> screwed up on Apple’s end, though I can’t imagine what would cause this.  
>> And I agree, it’s bloody annoying.
>> 
>> Hoping someone on this list has a solution, but I suspect there won’t be one 
>> until Apple fixes whatever’s causing the problem.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Dec 4, 2021, at 6:04 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have googled this, and follow the suggestions to restart my HomePod and 
>>> to sign in and out, or I should say out and in my iCloud on my HomePod 
>>> using the Home app. Originally, it was still playing stuff from my library, 
>>> but I couldn’t get it to play anything from Apple Music that wasn’t already 
>>> in my library. Now, it will play nothing. Not my library, not Apple Music. 
>>> I can hand off to it from my phone, but that’s a waste of time. These 
>>> things used to work fine. Now I might as will not even have them. Does 
>>> anybody have any suggestions?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: My HomePod will not play music

2021-12-05 Thread matthew dyer
Hi,

I have the same problemm with airplay.  I am wondering if there is a contact to 
report this.  I have been dealing with this f9or some time.  It is very 
ann0oying and have given up on air play for now.

Matthew



> On Dec 5, 2021, at 8:18 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Mary,
> 
> I’m having a similar issue, though it sounds like it’s not as severe as the 
> one you’re having. Whenever I play a playlist, the Homepod just skips a bunch 
> of songs.  This morning, this happened, and when I tried to go back to an 
> earlier title using the Previous Track button, I could only go back so far, 
> and then it treated that track as though it were the first song in the 
> playlist, even though it was probably the sixth or seventh track. For me this 
> started happening some time on Friday.  I’m thinking something must be 
> screwed up on Apple’s end, though I can’t imagine what would cause this.  And 
> I agree, it’s bloody annoying.
> 
> Hoping someone on this list has a solution, but I suspect there won’t be one 
> until Apple fixes whatever’s causing the problem.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Dec 4, 2021, at 6:04 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> I have googled this, and follow the suggestions to restart my HomePod and 
>> to sign in and out, or I should say out and in my iCloud on my HomePod using 
>> the Home app. Originally, it was still playing stuff from my library, but I 
>> couldn’t get it to play anything from Apple Music that wasn’t already in my 
>> library. Now, it will play nothing. Not my library, not Apple Music. I can 
>> hand off to it from my phone, but that’s a waste of time. These things used 
>> to work fine. Now I might as will not even have them. Does anybody have any 
>> suggestions?
>> 
>> 
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Re: My HomePod will not play music

2021-12-05 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi, Mary,

I’m having a similar issue, though it sounds like it’s not as severe as the one 
you’re having. Whenever I play a playlist, the Homepod just skips a bunch of 
songs.  This morning, this happened, and when I tried to go back to an earlier 
title using the Previous Track button, I could only go back so far, and then it 
treated that track as though it were the first song in the playlist, even 
though it was probably the sixth or seventh track. For me this started 
happening some time on Friday.  I’m thinking something must be screwed up on 
Apple’s end, though I can’t imagine what would cause this.  And I agree, it’s 
bloody annoying.

Hoping someone on this list has a solution, but I suspect there won’t be one 
until Apple fixes whatever’s causing the problem.
Cheers,
Donna


Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 4, 2021, at 6:04 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I have googled this, and follow the suggestions to restart my HomePod and to 
> sign in and out, or I should say out and in my iCloud on my HomePod using the 
> Home app. Originally, it was still playing stuff from my library, but I 
> couldn’t get it to play anything from Apple Music that wasn’t already in my 
> library. Now, it will play nothing. Not my library, not Apple Music. I can 
> hand off to it from my phone, but that’s a waste of time. These things used 
> to work fine. Now I might as will not even have them. Does anybody have any 
> suggestions?
> 
> 
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My HomePod will not play music

2021-12-04 Thread Mary Otten
I have googled this, and follow the suggestions to restart my HomePod and to 
sign in and out, or I should say out and in my iCloud on my HomePod using the 
Home app. Originally, it was still playing stuff from my library, but I 
couldn’t get it to play anything from Apple Music that wasn’t already in my 
library. Now, it will play nothing. Not my library, not Apple Music. I can hand 
off to it from my phone, but that’s a waste of time. These things used to work 
fine. Now I might as will not even have them. Does anybody have any suggestions?


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Re: playing radio stations on HomePod mini

2021-11-15 Thread 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries



On 15/11/21 14:12, christopher moore wrote:

Hello,
I’m considering the HomePod mini as a radio player. I’d also like to be able to 
set an alarm to wake to a given radio station.
Are these things possible with the HomePod or would I be better off with a 
different product?


I don't have a HomePod, but my understanding from demonstrations on 
podcasts is that you can ask Siri to play radio stations. If I remember 
correctly (and you should check), you can also use it as a wireless 
speaker with an iPhone or iPad via AirPlay.



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playing radio stations on HomePod mini

2021-11-15 Thread christopher moore
Hello,
I’m considering the HomePod mini as a radio player. I’d also like to be able to 
set an alarm to wake to a given radio station.  
Are these things possible with the HomePod or would I be better off with a 
different product?

TIA
Chris

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Re: Does anyone know if there's a way to adjust the Voice volume on a HomePod mini?

2021-08-06 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi,

Great.  Glad it worked for you.  Yeah, I’ve got two full-sized HomePods and two 
Minis, and do not use VO on any of them.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Aug 6, 2021, at 12:26 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hey Tim,
> 
> Great suggestion.  I turned off VO, and it’s much better.  You’re right, most 
> of the time when I’m interacting with a HomePod I’m using Siri, so not having 
> VO hardly matters.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Aug 6, 2021, at 11:52 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:Macvisionaries@Googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I normally don’t bother with VoiceOver on the HomePods.  I can do everything 
>> I’ve ever needed to do with either Siri or using the Home app on 
>> iPhone/iPad/Mac.  Yes, the Siri voice is often a little louder than the 
>> music in order that it can be heard over the music.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Aug 6, 2021, at 10:46 AM, skipper8...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Try these gestures or use your iPhone to control the speaker.
>>> This article might help.
>>> https://www.the-ambient.com/how-to/enable-use-voiceover-on-homepod-1497#:~:text=Now%20we're%20all%20set,touching%20and%20will%20select%20it.=Double%2Dtap%20and%20hold%20when%20play%2Fpause%20is%20selected%3A,%2Dtap%3A%20Skips%20the%20song
>>>  
>>> <https://www.the-ambient.com/how-to/enable-use-voiceover-on-homepod-1497#:~:text=Now%20we're%20all%20set,touching%20and%20will%20select%20it.=Double%2Dtap%20and%20hold%20when%20play%2Fpause%20is%20selected%3A,%2Dtap%3A%20Skips%20the%20song>.
>>>  
>>> Here is another source from Apple.
>>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208434 
>>> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208434>
>>> The home app on the phone might be the easiest option.
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> Sent: Friday, August 6, 2021 12:34 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Re: Does anyone know if there's a way to adjust the Voice volume 
>>> on a HomePod mini?
>>>  
>>> Some times that works, and some times it doesn’t.  And it never sticks.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 6, 2021, at 11:15 AM, maurice mines >>> <mailto:maur...@maurice-amines.com>> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> Hi yes  you can just ask Siri to rase  or  lower  the  voice  volume and  
>>>> she  or  he  will due  it. I hope  that  this  helps?
>>>>  
>>>> Maurice  Mines . Ham call  kd0iko, podcast my life as  a  deafblind person.
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 6, 2021, at 7:08 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>> >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>> I think I’ll try an nudge things in that direction by sending feedback to 
>>>>> Apple.  
>>>>> Cheers.,
>>>>> Donna
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 6, 2021, at 7:29 AM, Dave Carlson >>>>> <mailto:dgcarlson0...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> This issue with the home pod mini reminds me of one with the very old 
>>>>>> iPod nano. The firmware was never updated nor was very robust. The VO 
>>>>>> voice is always much louder than the audio being played. And never a way 
>>>>>> to adjust one independent of the other.
>>>>>> Hopefully Apple will not let this same issue live on in the home pod 
>>>>>> mini platform.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Dave Carlson
>>>>>>  Oregonian, Farfar, Engineer, Musician, Pioneer, and Woodworker
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> On Aug 5, 2021, at 7:40 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>> >>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> 
>&

Re: Does anyone know if there's a way to adjust the Voice volume on a HomePod mini?

2021-08-06 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hey Tim,

Great suggestion.  I turned off VO, and it’s much better.  You’re right, most 
of the time when I’m interacting with a HomePod I’m using Siri, so not having 
VO hardly matters.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Aug 6, 2021, at 11:52 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I normally don’t bother with VoiceOver on the HomePods.  I can do everything 
> I’ve ever needed to do with either Siri or using the Home app on 
> iPhone/iPad/Mac.  Yes, the Siri voice is often a little louder than the music 
> in order that it can be heard over the music.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Aug 6, 2021, at 10:46 AM, skipper8...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Try these gestures or use your iPhone to control the speaker.
>> This article might help.
>> https://www.the-ambient.com/how-to/enable-use-voiceover-on-homepod-1497#:~:text=Now%20we're%20all%20set,touching%20and%20will%20select%20it.=Double%2Dtap%20and%20hold%20when%20play%2Fpause%20is%20selected%3A,%2Dtap%3A%20Skips%20the%20song
>>  
>> <https://www.the-ambient.com/how-to/enable-use-voiceover-on-homepod-1497#:~:text=Now%20we're%20all%20set,touching%20and%20will%20select%20it.=Double%2Dtap%20and%20hold%20when%20play%2Fpause%20is%20selected%3A,%2Dtap%3A%20Skips%20the%20song>.
>>  
>> Here is another source from Apple.
>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208434 
>> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208434>
>> The home app on the phone might be the easiest option.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> Sent: Friday, August 6, 2021 12:34 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: Does anyone know if there's a way to adjust the Voice volume on 
>> a HomePod mini?
>>  
>> Some times that works, and some times it doesn’t.  And it never sticks.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 6, 2021, at 11:15 AM, maurice mines >> <mailto:maur...@maurice-amines.com>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> Hi yes  you can just ask Siri to rase  or  lower  the  voice  volume and  
>>> she  or  he  will due  it. I hope  that  this  helps?
>>>  
>>> Maurice  Mines . Ham call  kd0iko, podcast my life as  a  deafblind person.
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 6, 2021, at 7:08 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> I think I’ll try an nudge things in that direction by sending feedback to 
>>>> Apple.  
>>>> Cheers.,
>>>> Donna
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 6, 2021, at 7:29 AM, Dave Carlson >>>> <mailto:dgcarlson0...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>> This issue with the home pod mini reminds me of one with the very old 
>>>>> iPod nano. The firmware was never updated nor was very robust. The VO 
>>>>> voice is always much louder than the audio being played. And never a way 
>>>>> to adjust one independent of the other.
>>>>> Hopefully Apple will not let this same issue live on in the home pod mini 
>>>>> platform.
>>>>>  
>>>>> Dave Carlson
>>>>>  Oregonian, Farfar, Engineer, Musician, Pioneer, and Woodworker
>>>>>  
>>>>> On Aug 5, 2021, at 7:40 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>> >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Does anyone know if there’s a way to increase or decrease the volume of 
>>>>> the VO voice on a HomePod mini?
>>>>> TIA,
>>>>> Donna
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Re: Does anyone know if there's a way to adjust the Voice volume on a HomePod mini?

2021-08-06 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Interesting.  I see your point.  Maybe I’ll try turning Voiceover off, and see 
how that goes.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Aug 6, 2021, at 11:52 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I normally don’t bother with VoiceOver on the HomePods.  I can do everything 
> I’ve ever needed to do with either Siri or using the Home app on 
> iPhone/iPad/Mac.  Yes, the Siri voice is often a little louder than the music 
> in order that it can be heard over the music.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Aug 6, 2021, at 10:46 AM, skipper8...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Try these gestures or use your iPhone to control the speaker.
>> This article might help.
>> https://www.the-ambient.com/how-to/enable-use-voiceover-on-homepod-1497#:~:text=Now%20we're%20all%20set,touching%20and%20will%20select%20it.=Double%2Dtap%20and%20hold%20when%20play%2Fpause%20is%20selected%3A,%2Dtap%3A%20Skips%20the%20song
>>  
>> <https://www.the-ambient.com/how-to/enable-use-voiceover-on-homepod-1497#:~:text=Now%20we're%20all%20set,touching%20and%20will%20select%20it.=Double%2Dtap%20and%20hold%20when%20play%2Fpause%20is%20selected%3A,%2Dtap%3A%20Skips%20the%20song>.
>>  
>> Here is another source from Apple.
>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208434 
>> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208434>
>> The home app on the phone might be the easiest option.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> Sent: Friday, August 6, 2021 12:34 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: Does anyone know if there's a way to adjust the Voice volume on 
>> a HomePod mini?
>>  
>> Some times that works, and some times it doesn’t.  And it never sticks.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 6, 2021, at 11:15 AM, maurice mines >> <mailto:maur...@maurice-amines.com>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> Hi yes  you can just ask Siri to rase  or  lower  the  voice  volume and  
>>> she  or  he  will due  it. I hope  that  this  helps?
>>>  
>>> Maurice  Mines . Ham call  kd0iko, podcast my life as  a  deafblind person.
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 6, 2021, at 7:08 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> I think I’ll try an nudge things in that direction by sending feedback to 
>>>> Apple.  
>>>> Cheers.,
>>>> Donna
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 6, 2021, at 7:29 AM, Dave Carlson >>>> <mailto:dgcarlson0...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>> This issue with the home pod mini reminds me of one with the very old 
>>>>> iPod nano. The firmware was never updated nor was very robust. The VO 
>>>>> voice is always much louder than the audio being played. And never a way 
>>>>> to adjust one independent of the other.
>>>>> Hopefully Apple will not let this same issue live on in the home pod mini 
>>>>> platform.
>>>>>  
>>>>> Dave Carlson
>>>>>  Oregonian, Farfar, Engineer, Musician, Pioneer, and Woodworker
>>>>>  
>>>>> On Aug 5, 2021, at 7:40 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>> >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Does anyone know if there’s a way to increase or decrease the volume of 
>>>>> the VO voice on a HomePod mini?
>>>>> TIA,
>>>>> Donna
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Re: Does anyone know if there's a way to adjust the Voice volume on a HomePod mini?

2021-08-06 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi,

I normally don’t bother with VoiceOver on the HomePods.  I can do everything 
I’ve ever needed to do with either Siri or using the Home app on 
iPhone/iPad/Mac.  Yes, the Siri voice is often a little louder than the music 
in order that it can be heard over the music.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Aug 6, 2021, at 10:46 AM, skipper8...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Try these gestures or use your iPhone to control the speaker.
> This article might help.
> https://www.the-ambient.com/how-to/enable-use-voiceover-on-homepod-1497#:~:text=Now%20we're%20all%20set,touching%20and%20will%20select%20it.=Double%2Dtap%20and%20hold%20when%20play%2Fpause%20is%20selected%3A,%2Dtap%3A%20Skips%20the%20song
>  
> <https://www.the-ambient.com/how-to/enable-use-voiceover-on-homepod-1497#:~:text=Now%20we're%20all%20set,touching%20and%20will%20select%20it.=Double%2Dtap%20and%20hold%20when%20play%2Fpause%20is%20selected%3A,%2Dtap%3A%20Skips%20the%20song>.
>  
> Here is another source from Apple.
> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208434 
> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208434>
> The home app on the phone might be the easiest option.
>  
>  
>  
> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Friday, August 6, 2021 12:34 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Does anyone know if there's a way to adjust the Voice volume on 
> a HomePod mini?
>  
> Some times that works, and some times it doesn’t.  And it never sticks.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Aug 6, 2021, at 11:15 AM, maurice mines > <mailto:maur...@maurice-amines.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> Hi yes  you can just ask Siri to rase  or  lower  the  voice  volume and  
>> she  or  he  will due  it. I hope  that  this  helps?
>>  
>> Maurice  Mines . Ham call  kd0iko, podcast my life as  a  deafblind person.
>>  
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 6, 2021, at 7:08 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> I think I’ll try an nudge things in that direction by sending feedback to 
>>> Apple.  
>>> Cheers.,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 6, 2021, at 7:29 AM, Dave Carlson >>> <mailto:dgcarlson0...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> This issue with the home pod mini reminds me of one with the very old iPod 
>>>> nano. The firmware was never updated nor was very robust. The VO voice is 
>>>> always much louder than the audio being played. And never a way to adjust 
>>>> one independent of the other.
>>>> Hopefully Apple will not let this same issue live on in the home pod mini 
>>>> platform.
>>>>  
>>>> Dave Carlson
>>>>  Oregonian, Farfar, Engineer, Musician, Pioneer, and Woodworker
>>>>  
>>>> On Aug 5, 2021, at 7:40 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> Does anyone know if there’s a way to increase or decrease the volume of 
>>>> the VO voice on a HomePod mini?
>>>> TIA,
>>>> Donna
>>>> 
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RE: Does anyone know if there's a way to adjust the Voice volume on a HomePod mini?

2021-08-06 Thread skipper8218
Try these gestures or use your iPhone to control the speaker.

This article might help.

https://www.the-ambient.com/how-to/enable-use-voiceover-on-homepod-1497#:~:text=Now%20we're%20all%20set,touching%20and%20will%20select%20it.
 
<https://www.the-ambient.com/how-to/enable-use-voiceover-on-homepod-1497#:~:text=Now%20we're%20all%20set,touching%20and%20will%20select%20it.=Double%2Dtap%20and%20hold%20when%20play%2Fpause%20is%20selected%3A,%2Dtap%3A%20Skips%20the%20song>
 
=Double%2Dtap%20and%20hold%20when%20play%2Fpause%20is%20selected%3A,%2Dtap%3A%20Skips%20the%20song.

 

Here is another source from Apple.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208434

The home app on the phone might be the easiest option.

 

 

 

From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Friday, August 6, 2021 12:34 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Does anyone know if there's a way to adjust the Voice volume on a 
HomePod mini?

 

Some times that works, and some times it doesn’t.  And it never sticks.

Cheers,

Donna





On Aug 6, 2021, at 11:15 AM, maurice mines mailto:maur...@maurice-amines.com> > wrote:

 

Hi yes  you can just ask Siri to rase  or  lower  the  voice  volume and  she  
or  he  will due  it. I hope  that  this  helps?

 

Maurice  Mines . Ham call  kd0iko, podcast my life as  a  deafblind person.

 





On Aug 6, 2021, at 7:08 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > 
wrote:

 

I think I’ll try an nudge things in that direction by sending feedback to 
Apple.  

Cheers.,

Donna





On Aug 6, 2021, at 7:29 AM, Dave Carlson mailto:dgcarlson0...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

This issue with the home pod mini reminds me of one with the very old iPod 
nano. The firmware was never updated nor was very robust. The VO voice is 
always much louder than the audio being played. And never a way to adjust one 
independent of the other.

Hopefully Apple will not let this same issue live on in the home pod mini 
platform.

 

Dave Carlson

 Oregonian, Farfar, Engineer, Musician, Pioneer, and Woodworker

 

On Aug 5, 2021, at 7:40 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > 
wrote:

 

Hi all,

Does anyone know if there’s a way to increase or decrease the volume of the VO 
voice on a HomePod mini?
TIA,
Donna

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Re: Does anyone know if there's a way to adjust the Voice volume on a HomePod mini?

2021-08-06 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Some times that works, and some times it doesn’t.  And it never sticks.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Aug 6, 2021, at 11:15 AM, maurice mines  wrote:
> 
> Hi yes  you can just ask Siri to rase  or  lower  the  voice  volume and  she 
>  or  he  will due  it. I hope  that  this  helps?
> 
> Maurice  Mines . Ham call  kd0iko, podcast my life as  a  deafblind person.
> 
> 
>> On Aug 6, 2021, at 7:08 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I think I’ll try an nudge things in that direction by sending feedback to 
>> Apple.  
>> Cheers.,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Aug 6, 2021, at 7:29 AM, Dave Carlson >> <mailto:dgcarlson0...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> This issue with the home pod mini reminds me of one with the very old iPod 
>>> nano. The firmware was never updated nor was very robust. The VO voice is 
>>> always much louder than the audio being played. And never a way to adjust 
>>> one independent of the other.
>>> Hopefully Apple will not let this same issue live on in the home pod mini 
>>> platform.
>>> 
>>> Dave Carlson
>>>  Oregonian, Farfar, Engineer, Musician, Pioneer, and Woodworker
>>> 
>>> On Aug 5, 2021, at 7:40 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Does anyone know if there’s a way to increase or decrease the volume of the 
>>> VO voice on a HomePod mini?
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
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RE: Does anyone know if there's a way to adjust the Voice volume on a HomePod mini?

2021-08-06 Thread skipper8218
The HomePod Mini has a touch display and here is a link describing the commands 
you can use.

https://www.macrumors.com/how-to/homepod-physical-controls/

 

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of maurice mines
Sent: Friday, August 6, 2021 12:16 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Does anyone know if there's a way to adjust the Voice volume on a 
HomePod mini?

 

Hi yes  you can just ask Siri to rase  or  lower  the  voice  volume and  she  
or  he  will due  it. I hope  that  this  helps?

 

Maurice  Mines . Ham call  kd0iko, podcast my life as  a  deafblind person.

 





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wrote:

 

I think I’ll try an nudge things in that direction by sending feedback to 
Apple.  

Cheers.,

Donna





On Aug 6, 2021, at 7:29 AM, Dave Carlson mailto:dgcarlson0...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

This issue with the home pod mini reminds me of one with the very old iPod 
nano. The firmware was never updated nor was very robust. The VO voice is 
always much louder than the audio being played. And never a way to adjust one 
independent of the other.

Hopefully Apple will not let this same issue live on in the home pod mini 
platform.

 

Dave Carlson

 Oregonian, Farfar, Engineer, Musician, Pioneer, and Woodworker

 

On Aug 5, 2021, at 7:40 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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Hi all,

Does anyone know if there’s a way to increase or decrease the volume of the VO 
voice on a HomePod mini?
TIA,
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Re: Does anyone know if there's a way to adjust the Voice volume on a HomePod mini?

2021-08-06 Thread maurice mines
Hi yes  you can just ask Siri to rase  or  lower  the  voice  volume and  she  
or  he  will due  it. I hope  that  this  helps?

Maurice  Mines . Ham call  kd0iko, podcast my life as  a  deafblind person.


> On Aug 6, 2021, at 7:08 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think I’ll try an nudge things in that direction by sending feedback to 
> Apple.  
> Cheers.,
> Donna
> 
>> On Aug 6, 2021, at 7:29 AM, Dave Carlson > <mailto:dgcarlson0...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> This issue with the home pod mini reminds me of one with the very old iPod 
>> nano. The firmware was never updated nor was very robust. The VO voice is 
>> always much louder than the audio being played. And never a way to adjust 
>> one independent of the other.
>> Hopefully Apple will not let this same issue live on in the home pod mini 
>> platform.
>> 
>> Dave Carlson
>>  Oregonian, Farfar, Engineer, Musician, Pioneer, and Woodworker
>> 
>> On Aug 5, 2021, at 7:40 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Does anyone know if there’s a way to increase or decrease the volume of the 
>> VO voice on a HomePod mini?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: Does anyone know if there's a way to adjust the Voice volume on a HomePod mini?

2021-08-06 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Thanks, Tim.  That fits with what I’ve experienced.  The problem is that the 
volume of the VO voice is way disproportionately louder than the volume of the 
music.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Aug 6, 2021, at 10:33 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi,
> 
> With the HomePod and HomePod minis, the volume of the Siri voice is 
> controlled by the main volume of the HomePods.  So, if you set the volume to 
> 40%, then the Siri voice will be a certain level.  If you increase the volume 
> to 80%, then the Siri voice will be louder.  I don’t believe that it is 
> directly proportional, but it is controlled by the volume of the HomePods 
> themselves,.  I normally just tell Siri to set the volume to such and such a 
> percent and go from there.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
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> Jamf Certified Tech
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> 
>> On Aug 6, 2021, at 6:29 AM, Dave Carlson > <mailto:dgcarlson0...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> This issue with the home pod mini reminds me of one with the very old iPod 
>> nano. The firmware was never updated nor was very robust. The VO voice is 
>> always much louder than the audio being played. And never a way to adjust 
>> one independent of the other.
>> Hopefully Apple will not let this same issue live on in the home pod mini 
>> platform.
>> 
>> Dave Carlson
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>> 
>> On Aug 5, 2021, at 7:40 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
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>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Does anyone know if there’s a way to increase or decrease the volume of the 
>> VO voice on a HomePod mini?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: Does anyone know if there's a way to adjust the Voice volume on a HomePod mini?

2021-08-06 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi,

With the HomePod and HomePod minis, the volume of the Siri voice is controlled 
by the main volume of the HomePods.  So, if you set the volume to 40%, then the 
Siri voice will be a certain level.  If you increase the volume to 80%, then 
the Siri voice will be louder.  I don’t believe that it is directly 
proportional, but it is controlled by the volume of the HomePods themselves,.  
I normally just tell Siri to set the volume to such and such a percent and go 
from there.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
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> On Aug 6, 2021, at 6:29 AM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
> 
> This issue with the home pod mini reminds me of one with the very old iPod 
> nano. The firmware was never updated nor was very robust. The VO voice is 
> always much louder than the audio being played. And never a way to adjust one 
> independent of the other.
> Hopefully Apple will not let this same issue live on in the home pod mini 
> platform.
> 
> Dave Carlson
>  Oregonian, Farfar, Engineer, Musician, Pioneer, and Woodworker
> 
> On Aug 5, 2021, at 7:40 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Does anyone know if there’s a way to increase or decrease the volume of the 
> VO voice on a HomePod mini?
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: Does anyone know if there's a way to adjust the Voice volume on a HomePod mini?

2021-08-06 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
I think I’ll try an nudge things in that direction by sending feedback to 
Apple.  
Cheers.,
Donna

> On Aug 6, 2021, at 7:29 AM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
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> This issue with the home pod mini reminds me of one with the very old iPod 
> nano. The firmware was never updated nor was very robust. The VO voice is 
> always much louder than the audio being played. And never a way to adjust one 
> independent of the other.
> Hopefully Apple will not let this same issue live on in the home pod mini 
> platform.
> 
> Dave Carlson
>  Oregonian, Farfar, Engineer, Musician, Pioneer, and Woodworker
> 
> On Aug 5, 2021, at 7:40 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
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> Does anyone know if there’s a way to increase or decrease the volume of the 
> VO voice on a HomePod mini?
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: Does anyone know if there's a way to adjust the Voice volume on a HomePod mini?

2021-08-06 Thread Dave Carlson
This issue with the home pod mini reminds me of one with the very old iPod 
nano. The firmware was never updated nor was very robust. The VO voice is 
always much louder than the audio being played. And never a way to adjust one 
independent of the other.
Hopefully Apple will not let this same issue live on in the home pod mini 
platform.

Dave Carlson
 Oregonian, Farfar, Engineer, Musician, Pioneer, and Woodworker

On Aug 5, 2021, at 7:40 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi all,

Does anyone know if there’s a way to increase or decrease the volume of the VO 
voice on a HomePod mini?
TIA,
Donna

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