Re: Intro to the Mac with VoiceOver: a Twelve-week Workshop offered by the New York Public Library starts April 3
Due to privacy concerns, it is the policy of the New York public library that training sessions are not recorded.- Brad -On Apr 1, 2024, at 20:01, Marlene Kramer wrote:Hello,Does anyone know if certain sessions cannot be attended due to conflicts with other appointments if any of these sessions will be recorded for later viewing?Thanks in advance. MarleneOn Mar 30, 2024, at 7:08 PM, Brad Snyder wrote:Intro to the Mac with VoiceOver: a Twelve-week Workshop offered by the New York Public Library Wednesdays April 3 through June 19, 2:00 to 4:00 PM Eastern If you already know how to type but need experience with the Voiceover screen reader for Mac, this workshop is for you. We’ll go over setting up and customizing Voiceover, accessing help and documentation, working with the operating system, editing text, managing files, going online and more.Please plan to attend all sessions if possible.This workshop will take place online via Zoom.Registration is required at the following link:https://nypl.zoom.us/meeting/register/tZYpf-yrqj0tEtZlIeeuEtSRxmAl1YNzS0hZChancey S. FleetAssistive Technology CoordinatorAndrew Heiskell Braille and Talking Book Library(212) 621-0627 -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/4889A175-CDD4-4BA7-A3D2-56FE516CDF2A%40swbell.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/2FD204B6-163A-4217-AF59-B7399BB4F381%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/53A211D3-2D12-4872-A3F4-57EE4DC73243%40swbell.net.
Re: Intro to the Mac with VoiceOver: a Twelve-week Workshop offered by the New York Public Library starts April 3
Hello,Does anyone know if certain sessions cannot be attended due to conflicts with other appointments if any of these sessions will be recorded for later viewing?Thanks in advance. MarleneOn Mar 30, 2024, at 7:08 PM, Brad Snyder wrote:Intro to the Mac with VoiceOver: a Twelve-week Workshop offered by the New York Public Library Wednesdays April 3 through June 19, 2:00 to 4:00 PM Eastern If you already know how to type but need experience with the Voiceover screen reader for Mac, this workshop is for you. We’ll go over setting up and customizing Voiceover, accessing help and documentation, working with the operating system, editing text, managing files, going online and more.Please plan to attend all sessions if possible.This workshop will take place online via Zoom.Registration is required at the following link:https://nypl.zoom.us/meeting/register/tZYpf-yrqj0tEtZlIeeuEtSRxmAl1YNzS0hZChancey S. FleetAssistive Technology CoordinatorAndrew Heiskell Braille and Talking Book Library(212) 621-0627 -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/4889A175-CDD4-4BA7-A3D2-56FE516CDF2A%40swbell.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/2FD204B6-163A-4217-AF59-B7399BB4F381%40gmail.com.
Intro to the Mac with VoiceOver: a Twelve-week Workshop offered by the New York Public Library starts April 3
Intro to the Mac with VoiceOver: a Twelve-week Workshop offered by the New York Public Library Wednesdays April 3 through June 19, 2:00 to 4:00 PM Eastern If you already know how to type but need experience with the Voiceover screen reader for Mac, this workshop is for you. We’ll go over setting up and customizing Voiceover, accessing help and documentation, working with the operating system, editing text, managing files, going online and more. Please plan to attend all sessions if possible. This workshop will take place online via Zoom. Registration is required at the following link: https://nypl.zoom.us/meeting/register/tZYpf-yrqj0tEtZlIeeuEtSRxmAl1YNzS0hZ Chancey S. Fleet Assistive Technology Coordinator Andrew Heiskell Braille and Talking Book Library (212) 621-0627 -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/4889A175-CDD4-4BA7-A3D2-56FE516CDF2A%40swbell.net.
Re: Intro and question
As far as I know the new Max's come with pages. Margaret Sent from my iPhone On 17 Jul 2015, at 2:31 pm, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Welcome to the world of the Mac! You get Text Edit built into the Mac; this app lets you write text, and format it with links, lists, fonts, alignment, and so on. You can't do margins--at least I don't think you can--and there is nothing like template support or other advanced features. Fr getting started, though, you can't beat it. Pages doesn't come loaded on your Mac, but it is free in the App Store. It is far more complex and advanced than Text Edit, and you should get a solid grasp of VoiceOver before you tackle it. To get it, simply open the App Store, hit cmd-f, type 'pages', and press enter. Tab a couple times until you hear Install Pages, free button and press space. Numbers, by the way, is a spreadsheet program that is also free and available in the App Store. On Jul 16, 2015, at 8:06 PM, gracewelln...@atlanticbb.net gracewelln...@atlanticbb.net wrote: Hello, I recently subscribed to this list because I purchased my first Apple computer, a Macbook air. I would like to know if my machine has a word processor, or more than one. In this case, what is the easiest to learn? I heard about Pages and Numbers. Are they word processors? Thank you, Rena http://www.greenpathtowellness.com/ Author of Dear Suzie, Rivers Of Light and Annie's Journal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Intro and question
No, Pages can do templates, but ext Edit is simpler than that. As I said, though, give Text Edit a try first and become comfortable with that before attempting Pages, if you're new to the Mac. On Jul 17, 2015, at 8:26 AM, gracewelln...@atlanticbb.net gracewelln...@atlanticbb.net wrote: Is template support a Text Edit feature? Thanks for the explanation. http://www.greenpathtowellness.com/ Author of Dear Suzie, Rivers Of Light and Annie's Journal -Original Message- From: Alex Hall Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 12:31 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Intro and question Welcome to the world of the Mac! You get Text Edit built into the Mac; this app lets you write text, and format it with links, lists, fonts, alignment, and so on. You can't do margins--at least I don't think you can--and there is nothing like template support or other advanced features. Fr getting started, though, you can't beat it. Pages doesn't come loaded on your Mac, but it is free in the App Store. It is far more complex and advanced than Text Edit, and you should get a solid grasp of VoiceOver before you tackle it. To get it, simply open the App Store, hit cmd-f, type 'pages', and press enter. Tab a couple times until you hear Install Pages, free button and press space. Numbers, by the way, is a spreadsheet program that is also free and available in the App Store. On Jul 16, 2015, at 8:06 PM, gracewelln...@atlanticbb.net gracewelln...@atlanticbb.net wrote: Hello, I recently subscribed to this list because I purchased my first Apple computer, a Macbook air. I would like to know if my machine has a word processor, or more than one. In this case, what is the easiest to learn? I heard about Pages and Numbers. Are they word processors? Thank you, Rena http://www.greenpathtowellness.com/ Author of Dear Suzie, Rivers Of Light and Annie's Journal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Intro and question
Templates are for pages. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 17, 2015, at 7:26 AM, gracewelln...@atlanticbb.net gracewelln...@atlanticbb.net wrote: Is template support a Text Edit feature? Thanks for the explanation. http://www.greenpathtowellness.com/ Author of Dear Suzie, Rivers Of Light and Annie's Journal -Original Message- From: Alex Hall Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 12:31 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Intro and question Welcome to the world of the Mac! You get Text Edit built into the Mac; this app lets you write text, and format it with links, lists, fonts, alignment, and so on. You can't do margins--at least I don't think you can--and there is nothing like template support or other advanced features. Fr getting started, though, you can't beat it. Pages doesn't come loaded on your Mac, but it is free in the App Store. It is far more complex and advanced than Text Edit, and you should get a solid grasp of VoiceOver before you tackle it. To get it, simply open the App Store, hit cmd-f, type 'pages', and press enter. Tab a couple times until you hear Install Pages, free button and press space. Numbers, by the way, is a spreadsheet program that is also free and available in the App Store. On Jul 16, 2015, at 8:06 PM, gracewelln...@atlanticbb.net gracewelln...@atlanticbb.net wrote: Hello, I recently subscribed to this list because I purchased my first Apple computer, a Macbook air. I would like to know if my machine has a word processor, or more than one. In this case, what is the easiest to learn? I heard about Pages and Numbers. Are they word processors? Thank you, Rena http://www.greenpathtowellness.com/ Author of Dear Suzie, Rivers Of Light and Annie's Journal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Intro and question
Is template support a Text Edit feature? Thanks for the explanation. http://www.greenpathtowellness.com/ Author of Dear Suzie, Rivers Of Light and Annie's Journal -Original Message- From: Alex Hall Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 12:31 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Intro and question Welcome to the world of the Mac! You get Text Edit built into the Mac; this app lets you write text, and format it with links, lists, fonts, alignment, and so on. You can't do margins--at least I don't think you can--and there is nothing like template support or other advanced features. Fr getting started, though, you can't beat it. Pages doesn't come loaded on your Mac, but it is free in the App Store. It is far more complex and advanced than Text Edit, and you should get a solid grasp of VoiceOver before you tackle it. To get it, simply open the App Store, hit cmd-f, type 'pages', and press enter. Tab a couple times until you hear Install Pages, free button and press space. Numbers, by the way, is a spreadsheet program that is also free and available in the App Store. On Jul 16, 2015, at 8:06 PM, gracewelln...@atlanticbb.net gracewelln...@atlanticbb.net wrote: Hello, I recently subscribed to this list because I purchased my first Apple computer, a Macbook air. I would like to know if my machine has a word processor, or more than one. In this case, what is the easiest to learn? I heard about Pages and Numbers. Are they word processors? Thank you, Rena http://www.greenpathtowellness.com/ Author of Dear Suzie, Rivers Of Light and Annie's Journal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Intro and question
Hello, I recently subscribed to this list because I purchased my first Apple computer, a Macbook air. I would like to know if my machine has a word processor, or more than one. In this case, what is the easiest to learn? I heard about Pages and Numbers. Are they word processors? Thank you, Rena http://www.greenpathtowellness.com/ Author of Dear Suzie, Rivers Of Light and Annie's Journal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Intro and question
Welcome to the world of the Mac! You get Text Edit built into the Mac; this app lets you write text, and format it with links, lists, fonts, alignment, and so on. You can't do margins--at least I don't think you can--and there is nothing like template support or other advanced features. Fr getting started, though, you can't beat it. Pages doesn't come loaded on your Mac, but it is free in the App Store. It is far more complex and advanced than Text Edit, and you should get a solid grasp of VoiceOver before you tackle it. To get it, simply open the App Store, hit cmd-f, type 'pages', and press enter. Tab a couple times until you hear Install Pages, free button and press space. Numbers, by the way, is a spreadsheet program that is also free and available in the App Store. On Jul 16, 2015, at 8:06 PM, gracewelln...@atlanticbb.net gracewelln...@atlanticbb.net wrote: Hello, I recently subscribed to this list because I purchased my first Apple computer, a Macbook air. I would like to know if my machine has a word processor, or more than one. In this case, what is the easiest to learn? I heard about Pages and Numbers. Are they word processors? Thank you, Rena http://www.greenpathtowellness.com/ Author of Dear Suzie, Rivers Of Light and Annie's Journal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Intro and question
it has text edit for word processing -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Intro and question
Hi, Pages is a full featured Word Processor that should have came with your Mac. There is also a basic Word Processor called TextEdit that comes with your Mac as well. Actually, it’s basic but really quite a bit more than basic. Later… On Jul 16, 2015, at 6:06 PM, gracewelln...@atlanticbb.net gracewelln...@atlanticbb.net wrote: Hello, I recently subscribed to this list because I purchased my first Apple computer, a Macbook air. I would like to know if my machine has a word processor, or more than one. In this case, what is the easiest to learn? I heard about Pages and Numbers. Are they word processors? Thank you, Rena http://www.greenpathtowellness.com/ Author of Dear Suzie, Rivers Of Light and Annie's Journal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Well, Lorie, welcome to the group. As for me, I'm Barefooted Ray (cause that's how I always am inside and outside too when possible. As for me, I just got an Apple tV box and love it. Best way to bring one's iTunes library in to one's living room and 7.1 channel system in my opinion. Sure, a Mac mini would have solved that problem nicely, but for now, needed a less costly solution and the Apple TV fits that perfectly. My desk top is actually a 15 inch Mac book Pro which I got in November of 2009, so, it's kind of getting up there. My iPhone is a gold 128GB Verizon wireless model. In any case, welcome to the group. We're here to help. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus! On Nov 28, 2014, at 12:04 AM, Lorie McCloud lorice...@gmail.com wrote: I just joined this group. I've used Iphones for about 4 years now and just got an Iphone 5s. I recently got an Ipad mini too. they're both updated to 8.1.1 I'm planning to retire my poor old windows pc and get a Mac mini so I may have lots of questions as I learn how to use it. I've already been refferred to come manuals and podcasts and such so I'll try to do my homework before I ask. Lorie -- http://www.youtube.com/user/LorieMccloud?feature=mhsn --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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I just joined this group. I've used Iphones for about 4 years now and just got an Iphone 5s. I recently got an Ipad mini too. they're both updated to 8.1.1 I'm planning to retire my poor old windows pc and get a Mac mini so I may have lots of questions as I learn how to use it. I've already been refferred to come manuals and podcasts and such so I'll try to do my homework before I ask. Lorie -- http://www.youtube.com/user/LorieMccloud?feature=mhsn --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Hello List, I'm Jenine Stanley from Columbus, Ohio. I've been using adaptive computer equipment since 1988 but got my first Mac, an MBP, about a month ago. I'm doing some word processing and want to resume audio editing and production with this machine. My husband is also getting an iMac this week. He is a combination large print and speech user and I am totally blind. Looking forward to tons of good info here. Thanks all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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Hey there. Nice to see you here. This is a wonderful list and i am sure you will gain a great deal of info. Hope Paulos On Feb 11, 2014, at 9:13 AM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote: Hello List, I'm Jenine Stanley from Columbus, Ohio. I've been using adaptive computer equipment since 1988 but got my first Mac, an MBP, about a month ago. I'm doing some word processing and want to resume audio editing and production with this machine. My husband is also getting an iMac this week. He is a combination large print and speech user and I am totally blind. Looking forward to tons of good info here. Thanks all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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Hi there welcome to the list did you use the voiceover quick start yet? Sent from my iPhone On Feb 11, 2014, at 8:13 AM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote: Hello List, I'm Jenine Stanley from Columbus, Ohio. I've been using adaptive computer equipment since 1988 but got my first Mac, an MBP, about a month ago. I'm doing some word processing and want to resume audio editing and production with this machine. My husband is also getting an iMac this week. He is a combination large print and speech user and I am totally blind. Looking forward to tons of good info here. Thanks all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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id use the VO quick start guide at first but have been using VO on my iPhone since 2011 so much of it was familiar. I do find myself going back over sections of the VO help materials and each time it makes more sense. Steep learning curve but repetition helps a lot. On Feb 11, 2014, at 9:36 AM, Isaac Hebert isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there welcome to the list did you use the voiceover quick start yet? Sent from my iPhone On Feb 11, 2014, at 8:13 AM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote: Hello List, I'm Jenine Stanley from Columbus, Ohio. I've been using adaptive computer equipment since 1988 but got my first Mac, an MBP, about a month ago. I'm doing some word processing and want to resume audio editing and production with this machine. My husband is also getting an iMac this week. He is a combination large print and speech user and I am totally blind. Looking forward to tons of good info here. Thanks all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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Welcome to the list. I'm glad you are having such an easy transition - it took me forever to feel comfortable with Voiceover on the Mac, and even longer to feel that it is (mostly) better than Windows. Wait... Can you have longer than forever? Sure, why not? Anyway, welcome aboard, and feel free to ask any questions you have. I'm sure you already know, but www.applevis.com is a great resource for Mac material as well as iOS. -- Have a great day, Alex mehg...@gmail.com On Feb 11, 2014, at 9:47 AM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote: id use the VO quick start guide at first but have been using VO on my iPhone since 2011 so much of it was familiar. I do find myself going back over sections of the VO help materials and each time it makes more sense. Steep learning curve but repetition helps a lot. On Feb 11, 2014, at 9:36 AM, Isaac Hebert isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there welcome to the list did you use the voiceover quick start yet? Sent from my iPhone On Feb 11, 2014, at 8:13 AM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote: Hello List, I'm Jenine Stanley from Columbus, Ohio. I've been using adaptive computer equipment since 1988 but got my first Mac, an MBP, about a month ago. I'm doing some word processing and want to resume audio editing and production with this machine. My husband is also getting an iMac this week. He is a combination large print and speech user and I am totally blind. Looking forward to tons of good info here. Thanks all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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thanks Alex, Unfortunately, I'm getting a lot of 404 errors on the AppleVis site. This goes for podcasts, guides and the like. This is also with Safari and IE on my Windows machines. Very disappointing. the info I was able to access there though was incredibly helpful. On Feb 11, 2014, at 11:57 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: Welcome to the list. I'm glad you are having such an easy transition - it took me forever to feel comfortable with Voiceover on the Mac, and even longer to feel that it is (mostly) better than Windows. Wait... Can you have longer than forever? Sure, why not? Anyway, welcome aboard, and feel free to ask any questions you have. I'm sure you already know, but www.applevis.com is a great resource for Mac material as well as iOS. -- Have a great day, Alex mehg...@gmail.com On Feb 11, 2014, at 9:47 AM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote: id use the VO quick start guide at first but have been using VO on my iPhone since 2011 so much of it was familiar. I do find myself going back over sections of the VO help materials and each time it makes more sense. Steep learning curve but repetition helps a lot. On Feb 11, 2014, at 9:36 AM, Isaac Hebert isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there welcome to the list did you use the voiceover quick start yet? Sent from my iPhone On Feb 11, 2014, at 8:13 AM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote: Hello List, I'm Jenine Stanley from Columbus, Ohio. I've been using adaptive computer equipment since 1988 but got my first Mac, an MBP, about a month ago. I'm doing some word processing and want to resume audio editing and production with this machine. My husband is also getting an iMac this week. He is a combination large print and speech user and I am totally blind. Looking forward to tons of good info here. Thanks all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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Hello Janine, You will find the people on this list to be some of the most helpful people in the world. They put up with all of my crazy questions. I'm sure if I go back to my bookmarks, I can find some of the material they sent me initially. The Mac is an interesting transition and once you get the hang of it, a very simple machine to deal with. You don't have to deal with all of the windows bugs the registry crap etc. Pam Francis On Feb 11, 2014, at 11:25 AM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote: thanks Alex, Unfortunately, I’m getting a lot of 404 errors on the AppleVis site. This goes for podcasts, guides and the like. This is also with Safari and IE on my Windows machines. Very disappointing. the info I was able to access there though was incredibly helpful. On Feb 11, 2014, at 11:57 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: Welcome to the list. I'm glad you are having such an easy transition - it took me forever to feel comfortable with Voiceover on the Mac, and even longer to feel that it is (mostly) better than Windows. Wait… Can you have longer than forever? Sure, why not? Anyway, welcome aboard, and feel free to ask any questions you have. I'm sure you already know, but www.applevis.com is a great resource for Mac material as well as iOS. -- Have a great day, Alex mehg...@gmail.com On Feb 11, 2014, at 9:47 AM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote: id use the VO quick start guide at first but have been using VO on my iPhone since 2011 so much of it was familiar. I do find myself going back over sections of the VO help materials and each time it makes more sense. Steep learning curve but repetition helps a lot. On Feb 11, 2014, at 9:36 AM, Isaac Hebert isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there welcome to the list did you use the voiceover quick start yet? Sent from my iPhone On Feb 11, 2014, at 8:13 AM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote: Hello List, I'm Jenine Stanley from Columbus, Ohio. I've been using adaptive computer equipment since 1988 but got my first Mac, an MBP, about a month ago. I'm doing some word processing and want to resume audio editing and production with this machine. My husband is also getting an iMac this week. He is a combination large print and speech user and I am totally blind. Looking forward to tons of good info here. Thanks all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
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Jenine, It's CJ of CJ Surnow fame from many moons ago @ GDD. I'm glad to see you on the list. I hope you Kent are well. Also, glad to see another fellow traveler on the Macbook trail. I've been pretty happy with mine, since my wife gifted me with one back in 2010. Actually, got a new one for my birthday this year, so I guess I'm pretty committed. Anyway, glad to hear you're still kick'n, CJ Gibbs, The Great Golden Teddy Bear On Feb 11, 2014, at 7:13 AM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote: Hello List, I'm Jenine Stanley from Columbus, Ohio. I've been using adaptive computer equipment since 1988 but got my first Mac, an MBP, about a month ago. I'm doing some word processing and want to resume audio editing and production with this machine. My husband is also getting an iMac this week. He is a combination large print and speech user and I am totally blind. Looking forward to tons of good info here. Thanks all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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Can you contact Applevis with examples of these broken links? Use the contact form on the website, and your message will go to the entire website team so they can have a look at what is going on. Sometimes, pages will be taken down if they are deemed to be breaking rules (such as discussions of not-yet-released iOS or OSX updates). Podcasts should all be working, though, so any non-working links you can find would be good to know about. Thank you. -- Have a great day, Alex mehg...@gmail.com On Feb 11, 2014, at 12:25 PM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote: thanks Alex, Unfortunately, I'm getting a lot of 404 errors on the AppleVis site. This goes for podcasts, guides and the like. This is also with Safari and IE on my Windows machines. Very disappointing. the info I was able to access there though was incredibly helpful. On Feb 11, 2014, at 11:57 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: Welcome to the list. I'm glad you are having such an easy transition - it took me forever to feel comfortable with Voiceover on the Mac, and even longer to feel that it is (mostly) better than Windows. Wait... Can you have longer than forever? Sure, why not? Anyway, welcome aboard, and feel free to ask any questions you have. I'm sure you already know, but www.applevis.com is a great resource for Mac material as well as iOS. -- Have a great day, Alex mehg...@gmail.com On Feb 11, 2014, at 9:47 AM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote: id use the VO quick start guide at first but have been using VO on my iPhone since 2011 so much of it was familiar. I do find myself going back over sections of the VO help materials and each time it makes more sense. Steep learning curve but repetition helps a lot. On Feb 11, 2014, at 9:36 AM, Isaac Hebert isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there welcome to the list did you use the voiceover quick start yet? Sent from my iPhone On Feb 11, 2014, at 8:13 AM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote: Hello List, I'm Jenine Stanley from Columbus, Ohio. I've been using adaptive computer equipment since 1988 but got my first Mac, an MBP, about a month ago. I'm doing some word processing and want to resume audio editing and production with this machine. My husband is also getting an iMac this week. He is a combination large print and speech user and I am totally blind. Looking forward to tons of good info here. Thanks all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to
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Hi list: Thanks for confirming this. What's that address at apple I should write to? Thanks! On 8/10/13, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: I think that setting only applies when Voiceover starts for the first time, but I could be wrong. Try restarting your computer and see if you get the dialog. As to the spoken message, I have a suspicion that it is simply getting cut off by another announcement. After all, especially if you have applications set to re-open upon starting your computer, VO will have a lot of things to tell you and the welcome message (different from the dialog) could simply be getting lost. On Aug 10, 2013, at 6:22 AM, Gavin Grundlingh g.batw...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Joseph, I've just tried turning on the check box for Display welcome dialog when VoiceOverstarts and sure enough, no welcome message comes up when I turn VoiceOver off and back on again. So, no, it appears to not only be on your system. Regards, Gavin Grundlingh Primary Phone: +27 (0) 83 713-6191 Secondary Phone: +27 (0) 79 157-2466 Fax: +27 (0) 86 617-5792 Primary Email: g.batw...@gmail.com Secondary Email: customtra...@live.co.za Skype: Batworx Facebook: http://facebook.com/gavin.grundlingh Twitter: @Batworx On 10 Aug 2013, at 12:27 AM, Joseph Norton joseph.nor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list: Have you all noticed that, at least in Mountain Lion, there is no longer an intro that plays the first time a user runs VoiceOver? The option to display the Welcome dialog still exists, but, effectively does nothing. You can still get the VoiceOver quickStart via the VO+Command+f8 keystroke, but, unless a new user knows this, he may never get the Welcome message for the first time. Is this my system, or, is this something anyone else on the list can confirm? Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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Hi Joseph, I've just tried turning on the check box for Display welcome dialog when VoiceOverstarts and sure enough, no welcome message comes up when I turn VoiceOver off and back on again. So, no, it appears to not only be on your system. Regards, Gavin Grundlingh Primary Phone: +27 (0) 83 713-6191 Secondary Phone: +27 (0) 79 157-2466 Fax: +27 (0) 86 617-5792 Primary Email: g.batw...@gmail.com Secondary Email: customtra...@live.co.za Skype: Batworx Facebook: http://facebook.com/gavin.grundlingh Twitter: @Batworx On 10 Aug 2013, at 12:27 AM, Joseph Norton joseph.nor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list: Have you all noticed that, at least in Mountain Lion, there is no longer an intro that plays the first time a user runs VoiceOver? The option to display the Welcome dialog still exists, but, effectively does nothing. You can still get the VoiceOver quickStart via the VO+Command+f8 keystroke, but, unless a new user knows this, he may never get the Welcome message for the first time. Is this my system, or, is this something anyone else on the list can confirm? Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: VoiceOver intro
I think that setting only applies when Voiceover starts for the first time, but I could be wrong. Try restarting your computer and see if you get the dialog. As to the spoken message, I have a suspicion that it is simply getting cut off by another announcement. After all, especially if you have applications set to re-open upon starting your computer, VO will have a lot of things to tell you and the welcome message (different from the dialog) could simply be getting lost. On Aug 10, 2013, at 6:22 AM, Gavin Grundlingh g.batw...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Joseph, I've just tried turning on the check box for Display welcome dialog when VoiceOverstarts and sure enough, no welcome message comes up when I turn VoiceOver off and back on again. So, no, it appears to not only be on your system. Regards, Gavin Grundlingh Primary Phone: +27 (0) 83 713-6191 Secondary Phone: +27 (0) 79 157-2466 Fax: +27 (0) 86 617-5792 Primary Email: g.batw...@gmail.com Secondary Email: customtra...@live.co.za Skype: Batworx Facebook: http://facebook.com/gavin.grundlingh Twitter: @Batworx On 10 Aug 2013, at 12:27 AM, Joseph Norton joseph.nor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list: Have you all noticed that, at least in Mountain Lion, there is no longer an intro that plays the first time a user runs VoiceOver? The option to display the Welcome dialog still exists, but, effectively does nothing. You can still get the VoiceOver quickStart via the VO+Command+f8 keystroke, but, unless a new user knows this, he may never get the Welcome message for the first time. Is this my system, or, is this something anyone else on the list can confirm? Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
VoiceOver intro
Hi list: Have you all noticed that, at least in Mountain Lion, there is no longer an intro that plays the first time a user runs VoiceOver? The option to display the Welcome dialog still exists, but, effectively does nothing. You can still get the VoiceOver quickStart via the VO+Command+f8 keystroke, but, unless a new user knows this, he may never get the Welcome message for the first time. Is this my system, or, is this something anyone else on the list can confirm? Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: VoiceOver intro
My experience after doing a recent reinstall is exactly the oposate. Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! On Aug 9, 2013, at 5:27 PM, Joseph Norton joseph.nor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list: Have you all noticed that, at least in Mountain Lion, there is no longer an intro that plays the first time a user runs VoiceOver? The option to display the Welcome dialog still exists, but, effectively does nothing. You can still get the VoiceOver quickStart via the VO+Command+f8 keystroke, but, unless a new user knows this, he may never get the Welcome message for the first time. Is this my system, or, is this something anyone else on the list can confirm? Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
an intro and a question
hello listers, i've been on this list for two weeks and thought it was time for an intro. my name is michael marshall and i'm from melbourne australia. this week i will be bying a mac computer. i have alot of questions witch i can't think of right now accept one. does anyone know of a good program for ripping DVD's to audio? thanks for any help Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: an intro and a question
Rather than just give you the answer, here is your chance to learn about searching the archives. This particular topic comes up often so if you search the list you'll probably find what you need. Google of course provides way to do this as part of the Google Groups service but a number of people also like the Mail Archive which can be found here: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ CB On 3/10/13 3:56 PM, Michael Marshall wrote: hello listers, i've been on this list for two weeks and thought it was time for an intro. my name is michael marshall and i'm from melbourne australia. this week i will be bying a mac computer. i have alot of questions witch i can't think of right now accept one. does anyone know of a good program for ripping DVD's to audio? thanks for any help Michael -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: an intro and a question
thanks for the link to the archive. On 11/03/2013 1:29 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: Rather than just give you the answer, here is your chance to learn about searching the archives. This particular topic comes up often so if you search the list you'll probably find what you need. Google of course provides way to do this as part of the Google Groups service but a number of people also like the Mail Archive which can be found here: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ CB On 3/10/13 3:56 PM, Michael Marshall wrote: hello listers, i've been on this list for two weeks and thought it was time for an intro. my name is michael marshall and i'm from melbourne australia. this week i will be bying a mac computer. i have alot of questions witch i can't think of right now accept one. does anyone know of a good program for ripping DVD's to audio? thanks for any help Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Two questions about virtual machines and a brief intro
Hello Paul, This is wrong. I can use Focus 40 FS braille display in VMWare fusion with no problems. How are you connecting? The issue could be related to the method of connection. if you are successfully connecting to the Mac and then you need check your Fusion setup. The hardware is still controlled by the Mac and Fusion. If windows doesn't see the relevant method you are using to connect, then all bets are off. Sean On 16/08/2012, at 12:33 PM, Paul Hunt wrote: Hello Alex. I’m using Windows 7 in VM Fusion. Yes, In many instances it can take a minute or two to recognize pages. On the other hand, my wife has Windows XP running in Bootcamp and pages are recognized in a matter of seconds. There are a couple of other things you should know. Focus Braille Drivers do not load in the Virtual Machine and Freedom Scientific is not willing to help resolve the issue because they don’t support running JAWS or any of their applications in Virtual machines. Finally, any time you change the configuration of your Virtual Machine you lose an activation. Freedom Scientific is not willing to issue additional keys very often. On the plus side, You can install Windows without sighted assistance. You can also add printers and read and write documents stored on the Mac side. In addition, because your virtual machine is just an image, it’s easy to restore it from a backup. So you can see that thare are tradeoffs. After considering all of them, I’m willing to switch over to Bootcamp for the increased performance. I’ll use Drop Box whenever I need to move folders from the Mac side to the Windows side. HTH From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Damashe Thomas Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 9:04 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Two questions about virtual machines and a brief intro Hello, Thanks for the notice Alex, I will take a look at virtualbox also. Paul, is performance terrible with openbook? Thanks - Original Message - From: Paul Hunt To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 7:15 PM Subject: Re: Two questions about virtual machines and a brief intro Hello Damash. I have been using fusion for two years. In general it works fine but peformance is much better with bootcamp especially with Open Book. On Aug 15, 2012, at 11:39 AM, Damashe Thomas damashe.tho...@gmail.com wrote: Hello List, My name is Damashe Thomas and I am fairly new to the macvisionaries group. I live in the great state of Georgia. I have been a very happy iOS user for the past four years and am preparing to make the move to the mac. I have two quick questions to get started. Does anyone have experience with the latest version of parallels and can speak about the accessibility of that app. Is it a possible option or should I just go with VMWare fusion? I like the ability to run windows in a virtual machine when I have to use it, but has anyone run in to any issues using applications like kurzweil or openbook in a virtual windows environment? Thanks Damashe Skype: damashe.thomas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group
Re: Two questions about virtual machines and a brief intro
I must also add that if you want to connect using bluetooth (as I connect my Eurobraille via bluetooth in Fusion latest version) there is support within fusion to connect your debice virtually but you have to locate the bluetooth settings in windows and connect your braille display. Then in jaws you have to make sure you locate the correct port so your braille display is shown there. It's a while since I did it but I'm also sure that you have to tell Fusion that your bluetooth receiver that the Mac uses to make sure that it's shown in fusion settings in the USB devices. Hope that isn't too complicated. Kawal. On 17 Aug 2012, at 09:41 AM, Sean Murphy mhysnm1...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Paul, This is wrong. I can use Focus 40 FS braille display in VMWare fusion with no problems. How are you connecting? The issue could be related to the method of connection. if you are successfully connecting to the Mac and then you need check your Fusion setup. The hardware is still controlled by the Mac and Fusion. If windows doesn't see the relevant method you are using to connect, then all bets are off. Sean On 16/08/2012, at 12:33 PM, Paul Hunt wrote: Hello Alex. I’m using Windows 7 in VM Fusion. Yes, In many instances it can take a minute or two to recognize pages. On the other hand, my wife has Windows XP running in Bootcamp and pages are recognized in a matter of seconds. There are a couple of other things you should know. Focus Braille Drivers do not load in the Virtual Machine and Freedom Scientific is not willing to help resolve the issue because they don’t support running JAWS or any of their applications in Virtual machines. Finally, any time you change the configuration of your Virtual Machine you lose an activation. Freedom Scientific is not willing to issue additional keys very often. On the plus side, You can install Windows without sighted assistance. You can also add printers and read and write documents stored on the Mac side. In addition, because your virtual machine is just an image, it’s easy to restore it from a backup. So you can see that thare are tradeoffs. After considering all of them, I’m willing to switch over to Bootcamp for the increased performance. I’ll use Drop Box whenever I need to move folders from the Mac side to the Windows side. HTH From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Damashe Thomas Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 9:04 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Two questions about virtual machines and a brief intro Hello, Thanks for the notice Alex, I will take a look at virtualbox also. Paul, is performance terrible with openbook? Thanks - Original Message - From: Paul Hunt To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 7:15 PM Subject: Re: Two questions about virtual machines and a brief intro Hello Damash. I have been using fusion for two years. In general it works fine but peformance is much better with bootcamp especially with Open Book. On Aug 15, 2012, at 11:39 AM, Damashe Thomas damashe.tho...@gmail.com wrote: Hello List, My name is Damashe Thomas and I am fairly new to the macvisionaries group. I live in the great state of Georgia. I have been a very happy iOS user for the past four years and am preparing to make the move to the mac. I have two quick questions to get started. Does anyone have experience with the latest version of parallels and can speak about the accessibility of that app. Is it a possible option or should I just go with VMWare fusion? I like the ability to run windows in a virtual machine when I have to use it, but has anyone run in to any issues using applications like kurzweil or openbook in a virtual windows environment? Thanks Damashe Skype: damashe.thomas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl
RE: Two questions about virtual machines and a brief intro
Hello Sean. I no longer have access to the Focus 40. I was trying to connect the USB version of the Focus and never got it to connect. My wife has Windows installed in a Bootcamp partition and the focus connected fine with it. I assume that Blue Tooth works properly. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sean Murphy Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 3:41 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Two questions about virtual machines and a brief intro Hello Paul, This is wrong. I can use Focus 40 FS braille display in VMWare fusion with no problems. How are you connecting? The issue could be related to the method of connection. if you are successfully connecting to the Mac and then you need check your Fusion setup. The hardware is still controlled by the Mac and Fusion. If windows doesn't see the relevant method you are using to connect, then all bets are off. Sean On 16/08/2012, at 12:33 PM, Paul Hunt wrote: Hello Alex. I'm using Windows 7 in VM Fusion. Yes, In many instances it can take a minute or two to recognize pages. On the other hand, my wife has Windows XP running in Bootcamp and pages are recognized in a matter of seconds. There are a couple of other things you should know. Focus Braille Drivers do not load in the Virtual Machine and Freedom Scientific is not willing to help resolve the issue because they don't support running JAWS or any of their applications in Virtual machines. Finally, any time you change the configuration of your Virtual Machine you lose an activation. Freedom Scientific is not willing to issue additional keys very often. On the plus side, You can install Windows without sighted assistance. You can also add printers and read and write documents stored on the Mac side. In addition, because your virtual machine is just an image, it's easy to restore it from a backup. So you can see that thare are tradeoffs. After considering all of them, I'm willing to switch over to Bootcamp for the increased performance. I'll use Drop Box whenever I need to move folders from the Mac side to the Windows side. HTH From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Damashe Thomas Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 9:04 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Two questions about virtual machines and a brief intro Hello, Thanks for the notice Alex, I will take a look at virtualbox also. Paul, is performance terrible with openbook? Thanks - Original Message - From: Paul Hunt mailto:prhu...@att.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 7:15 PM Subject: Re: Two questions about virtual machines and a brief intro Hello Damash. I have been using fusion for two years. In general it works fine but peformance is much better with bootcamp especially with Open Book. On Aug 15, 2012, at 11:39 AM, Damashe Thomas damashe.tho...@gmail.com wrote: Hello List, My name is Damashe Thomas and I am fairly new to the macvisionaries group. I live in the great state of Georgia. I have been a very happy iOS user for the past four years and am preparing to make the move to the mac. I have two quick questions to get started. Does anyone have experience with the latest version of parallels and can speak about the accessibility of that app. Is it a possible option or should I just go with VMWare fusion? I like the ability to run windows in a virtual machine when I have to use it, but has anyone run in to any issues using applications like kurzweil or openbook in a virtual windows environment? Thanks Damashe Skype: damashe.thomas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries
Re: Two questions about virtual machines and a brief intro
Hello Paul, No problems. I use the Focus 40 USB version with no problems. If you don't connect the USB device to VMWare, then the Guess will not recognise it. Ideally you should do this while the OS is loading. Sean On 18/08/2012, at 1:56 AM, Paul Hunt wrote: Hello Sean. I no longer have access to the Focus 40. I was trying to connect the USB version of the Focus and never got it to connect. My wife has Windows installed in a Bootcamp partition and the focus connected fine with it. I assume that Blue Tooth works properly. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sean Murphy Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 3:41 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Two questions about virtual machines and a brief intro Hello Paul, This is wrong. I can use Focus 40 FS braille display in VMWare fusion with no problems. How are you connecting? The issue could be related to the method of connection. if you are successfully connecting to the Mac and then you need check your Fusion setup. The hardware is still controlled by the Mac and Fusion. If windows doesn't see the relevant method you are using to connect, then all bets are off. Sean On 16/08/2012, at 12:33 PM, Paul Hunt wrote: Hello Alex. I’m using Windows 7 in VM Fusion. Yes, In many instances it can take a minute or two to recognize pages. On the other hand, my wife has Windows XP running in Bootcamp and pages are recognized in a matter of seconds. There are a couple of other things you should know. Focus Braille Drivers do not load in the Virtual Machine and Freedom Scientific is not willing to help resolve the issue because they don’t support running JAWS or any of their applications in Virtual machines. Finally, any time you change the configuration of your Virtual Machine you lose an activation. Freedom Scientific is not willing to issue additional keys very often. On the plus side, You can install Windows without sighted assistance. You can also add printers and read and write documents stored on the Mac side. In addition, because your virtual machine is just an image, it’s easy to restore it from a backup. So you can see that thare are tradeoffs. After considering all of them, I’m willing to switch over to Bootcamp for the increased performance. I’ll use Drop Box whenever I need to move folders from the Mac side to the Windows side. HTH From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Damashe Thomas Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 9:04 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Two questions about virtual machines and a brief intro Hello, Thanks for the notice Alex, I will take a look at virtualbox also. Paul, is performance terrible with openbook? Thanks - Original Message - From: Paul Hunt To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 7:15 PM Subject: Re: Two questions about virtual machines and a brief intro Hello Damash. I have been using fusion for two years. In general it works fine but peformance is much better with bootcamp especially with Open Book. On Aug 15, 2012, at 11:39 AM, Damashe Thomas damashe.tho...@gmail.com wrote: Hello List, My name is Damashe Thomas and I am fairly new to the macvisionaries group. I live in the great state of Georgia. I have been a very happy iOS user for the past four years and am preparing to make the move to the mac. I have two quick questions to get started. Does anyone have experience with the latest version of parallels and can speak about the accessibility of that app. Is it a possible option or should I just go with VMWare fusion? I like the ability to run windows in a virtual machine when I have to use it, but has anyone run in to any issues using applications like kurzweil or openbook in a virtual windows environment? Thanks Damashe Skype: damashe.thomas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr
Two questions about virtual machines and a brief intro
Hello List, My name is Damashe Thomas and I am fairly new to the macvisionaries group. I live in the great state of Georgia. I have been a very happy iOS user for the past four years and am preparing to make the move to the mac. I have two quick questions to get started. Does anyone have experience with the latest version of parallels and can speak about the accessibility of that app. Is it a possible option or should I just go with VMWare fusion? I like the ability to run windows in a virtual machine when I have to use it, but has anyone run in to any issues using applications like kurzweil or openbook in a virtual windows environment? Thanks Damashe Skype: damashe.thomas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Two questions about virtual machines and a brief intro
Hi there! I cannot answer about using windows stuff [never have used it] but I do know that parallels is not accessible so do not let anyone sell you it! Hth Colin On 15 Aug 2012, at 17:39, Damashe Thomas wrote: Hello List, My name is Damashe Thomas and I am fairly new to the macvisionaries group. I live in the great state of Georgia. I have been a very happy iOS user for the past four years and am preparing to make the move to the mac. I have two quick questions to get started. Does anyone have experience with the latest version of parallels and can speak about the accessibility of that app. Is it a possible option or should I just go with VMWare fusion? I like the ability to run windows in a virtual machine when I have to use it, but has anyone run in to any issues using applications like kurzweil or openbook in a virtual windows environment? Thanks Damashe Skype: damashe.thomas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Two questions about virtual machines and a brief intro
Hi, Thanks, I had a choice of a free copy of parallels or fileMaker Pro. I had heard a few years ago that parallels wasn't accessible, but didn't know about any recent updates. - Original Message - From: Red.Falcon To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 12:50 PM Subject: Re: Two questions about virtual machines and a brief intro Hi there! I cannot answer about using windows stuff [never have used it] but I do know that parallels is not accessible so do not let anyone sell you it! Hth Colin On 15 Aug 2012, at 17:39, Damashe Thomas wrote: Hello List, My name is Damashe Thomas and I am fairly new to the macvisionaries group. I live in the great state of Georgia. I have been a very happy iOS user for the past four years and am preparing to make the move to the mac. I have two quick questions to get started. Does anyone have experience with the latest version of parallels and can speak about the accessibility of that app. Is it a possible option or should I just go with VMWare fusion? I like the ability to run windows in a virtual machine when I have to use it, but has anyone run in to any issues using applications like kurzweil or openbook in a virtual windows environment? Thanks Damashe Skype: damashe.thomas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Two questions about virtual machines and a brief intro
hello, I run Kurzweil 1000 version 11.03 (I haven't updated that particular software in a while) under Windows 7 in a VMWare Fusion virtual machine and have no problems. I need to update to version four of VMWare Fusion for it all to run under Mountain Lion, but from what I hear others have also had no issues with it. Hope this helps, Harry On Aug 15, 2012, at 11:00 AM, Damashe Thomas damashe.tho...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Thanks, I had a choice of a free copy of parallels or fileMaker Pro. I had heard a few years ago that parallels wasn't accessible, but didn't know about any recent updates. - Original Message - From: Red.Falcon To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 12:50 PM Subject: Re: Two questions about virtual machines and a brief intro Hi there! I cannot answer about using windows stuff [never have used it] but I do know that parallels is not accessible so do not let anyone sell you it! Hth Colin On 15 Aug 2012, at 17:39, Damashe Thomas wrote: Hello List, My name is Damashe Thomas and I am fairly new to the macvisionaries group. I live in the great state of Georgia. I have been a very happy iOS user for the past four years and am preparing to make the move to the mac. I have two quick questions to get started. Does anyone have experience with the latest version of parallels and can speak about the accessibility of that app. Is it a possible option or should I just go with VMWare fusion? I like the ability to run windows in a virtual machine when I have to use it, but has anyone run in to any issues using applications like kurzweil or openbook in a virtual windows environment? Thanks Damashe Skype: damashe.thomas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Two questions about virtual machines and a brief intro
Hi. I run Open Book the latest version under VMWare 4 whatever the latest one is using Mountain Lion. I use a Pearl and have no problems with it at all. Kawal. On 15 Aug 2012, at 19:41, Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com wrote: hello, I run Kurzweil 1000 version 11.03 (I haven't updated that particular software in a while) under Windows 7 in a VMWare Fusion virtual machine and have no problems. I need to update to version four of VMWare Fusion for it all to run under Mountain Lion, but from what I hear others have also had no issues with it. Hope this helps, Harry On Aug 15, 2012, at 11:00 AM, Damashe Thomas damashe.tho...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Thanks, I had a choice of a free copy of parallels or fileMaker Pro. I had heard a few years ago that parallels wasn't accessible, but didn't know about any recent updates. - Original Message - From: Red.Falcon To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 12:50 PM Subject: Re: Two questions about virtual machines and a brief intro Hi there! I cannot answer about using windows stuff [never have used it] but I do know that parallels is not accessible so do not let anyone sell you it! Hth Colin On 15 Aug 2012, at 17:39, Damashe Thomas wrote: Hello List, My name is Damashe Thomas and I am fairly new to the macvisionaries group. I live in the great state of Georgia. I have been a very happy iOS user for the past four years and am preparing to make the move to the mac. I have two quick questions to get started. Does anyone have experience with the latest version of parallels and can speak about the accessibility of that app. Is it a possible option or should I just go with VMWare fusion? I like the ability to run windows in a virtual machine when I have to use it, but has anyone run in to any issues using applications like kurzweil or openbook in a virtual windows environment? Thanks Damashe Skype: damashe.thomas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Two questions about virtual machines and a brief intro
Hello Damashe, First, if you are wanting to exicute the installation and full operation of Windows on the Mac, I would highly recommend VMware Fusion. Reviewing the archives will provide a thorough set of directions that will help you learn how to install Windows, as should the product web site. I'm not an expert and in no way consider myself highly technical, but I have been able to install and run Windows within 25 minutes of reading following the instructions others have kindly posted. If you purchase Fusion, and insert a university into the college name you will get a 50% discount, which is a great thing. I have been able to install and effectively run Kurzweil 1000, as well as Duxbury 10.7. Moreover, after initial setup, JFW11 has run very well with no problems on my machine. Once you get your virtual machine configured, make a snapshot that you can refer to when you need to virtually reformat. :) Note you will need considerable hard drive space (at least I do). I have roughly 40GB set aside for my virtual machine. If you need any other help or if you wish to discuss this further feel free to reply - cheers. Twitter: TheOrangeCircle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Two questions about virtual machines and a brief intro
Hello, My thanks to Kawal, Emilio and others for the answers. I will buy fusion and take the free copy of file maker pro when I buy my macBook. I appreciate the advice and comments. - Original Message - From: Emilio emilio.s.hernan...@gmail.com To: MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 4:49 PM Subject: Re: Two questions about virtual machines and a brief intro Hello Damashe, First, if you are wanting to exicute the installation and full operation of Windows on the Mac, I would highly recommend VMware Fusion. Reviewing the archives will provide a thorough set of directions that will help you learn how to install Windows, as should the product web site. I'm not an expert and in no way consider myself highly technical, but I have been able to install and run Windows within 25 minutes of reading following the instructions others have kindly posted. If you purchase Fusion, and insert a university into the college name you will get a 50% discount, which is a great thing. I have been able to install and effectively run Kurzweil 1000, as well as Duxbury 10.7. Moreover, after initial setup, JFW11 has run very well with no problems on my machine. Once you get your virtual machine configured, make a snapshot that you can refer to when you need to virtually reformat. :) Note you will need considerable hard drive space (at least I do). I have roughly 40GB set aside for my virtual machine. If you need any other help or if you wish to discuss this further feel free to reply - cheers. Twitter: TheOrangeCircle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Two questions about virtual machines and a brief intro
ONe thing I'd like to mention before you put money into VMWare. There is an alternative called Virtualbox. It's interface is not accessible, but it has full terminal support, so you can set things up that way and never need to touch the interface. As far as I know, it is free, and works just fine. I have not tested either product yet, but I wanted to make you aware of this option in case you wanted to give it a shot. Note that, on the mac, terminal is the same thing as the windows command line, shell prompt, dos prompt, or whatever you want to call it. On Aug 15, 2012, at 5:05 PM, Damashe Thomas damashe.tho...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, My thanks to Kawal, Emilio and others for the answers. I will buy fusion and take the free copy of file maker pro when I buy my macBook. I appreciate the advice and comments. - Original Message - From: Emilio emilio.s.hernan...@gmail.com To: MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 4:49 PM Subject: Re: Two questions about virtual machines and a brief intro Hello Damashe, First, if you are wanting to exicute the installation and full operation of Windows on the Mac, I would highly recommend VMware Fusion. Reviewing the archives will provide a thorough set of directions that will help you learn how to install Windows, as should the product web site. I'm not an expert and in no way consider myself highly technical, but I have been able to install and run Windows within 25 minutes of reading following the instructions others have kindly posted. If you purchase Fusion, and insert a university into the college name you will get a 50% discount, which is a great thing. I have been able to install and effectively run Kurzweil 1000, as well as Duxbury 10.7. Moreover, after initial setup, JFW11 has run very well with no problems on my machine. Once you get your virtual machine configured, make a snapshot that you can refer to when you need to virtually reformat. :) Note you will need considerable hard drive space (at least I do). I have roughly 40GB set aside for my virtual machine. If you need any other help or if you wish to discuss this further feel free to reply - cheers. Twitter: TheOrangeCircle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Two questions about virtual machines and a brief intro
Hello Damash. I have been using fusion for two years. In general it works fine but peformance is much better with bootcamp especially with Open Book. On Aug 15, 2012, at 11:39 AM, Damashe Thomas damashe.tho...@gmail.com wrote: Hello List, My name is Damashe Thomas and I am fairly new to the macvisionaries group. I live in the great state of Georgia. I have been a very happy iOS user for the past four years and am preparing to make the move to the mac. I have two quick questions to get started. Does anyone have experience with the latest version of parallels and can speak about the accessibility of that app. Is it a possible option or should I just go with VMWare fusion? I like the ability to run windows in a virtual machine when I have to use it, but has anyone run in to any issues using applications like kurzweil or openbook in a virtual windows environment? Thanks Damashe Skype: damashe.thomas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Two questions about virtual machines and a brief intro
Hello, Thanks for the notice Alex, I will take a look at virtualbox also. Paul, is performance terrible with openbook? Thanks - Original Message - From: Paul Hunt To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 7:15 PM Subject: Re: Two questions about virtual machines and a brief intro Hello Damash. I have been using fusion for two years. In general it works fine but peformance is much better with bootcamp especially with Open Book. On Aug 15, 2012, at 11:39 AM, Damashe Thomas damashe.tho...@gmail.com wrote: Hello List, My name is Damashe Thomas and I am fairly new to the macvisionaries group. I live in the great state of Georgia. I have been a very happy iOS user for the past four years and am preparing to make the move to the mac. I have two quick questions to get started. Does anyone have experience with the latest version of parallels and can speak about the accessibility of that app. Is it a possible option or should I just go with VMWare fusion? I like the ability to run windows in a virtual machine when I have to use it, but has anyone run in to any issues using applications like kurzweil or openbook in a virtual windows environment? Thanks Damashe Skype: damashe.thomas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Two questions about virtual machines and a brief intro
Hello Alex. I'm using Windows 7 in VM Fusion. Yes, In many instances it can take a minute or two to recognize pages. On the other hand, my wife has Windows XP running in Bootcamp and pages are recognized in a matter of seconds. There are a couple of other things you should know. Focus Braille Drivers do not load in the Virtual Machine and Freedom Scientific is not willing to help resolve the issue because they don't support running JAWS or any of their applications in Virtual machines. Finally, any time you change the configuration of your Virtual Machine you lose an activation. Freedom Scientific is not willing to issue additional keys very often. On the plus side, You can install Windows without sighted assistance. You can also add printers and read and write documents stored on the Mac side. In addition, because your virtual machine is just an image, it's easy to restore it from a backup. So you can see that thare are tradeoffs. After considering all of them, I'm willing to switch over to Bootcamp for the increased performance. I'll use Drop Box whenever I need to move folders from the Mac side to the Windows side. HTH From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Damashe Thomas Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 9:04 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Two questions about virtual machines and a brief intro Hello, Thanks for the notice Alex, I will take a look at virtualbox also. Paul, is performance terrible with openbook? Thanks - Original Message - From: Paul Hunt mailto:prhu...@att.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 7:15 PM Subject: Re: Two questions about virtual machines and a brief intro Hello Damash. I have been using fusion for two years. In general it works fine but peformance is much better with bootcamp especially with Open Book. On Aug 15, 2012, at 11:39 AM, Damashe Thomas damashe.tho...@gmail.com wrote: Hello List, My name is Damashe Thomas and I am fairly new to the macvisionaries group. I live in the great state of Georgia. I have been a very happy iOS user for the past four years and am preparing to make the move to the mac. I have two quick questions to get started. Does anyone have experience with the latest version of parallels and can speak about the accessibility of that app. Is it a possible option or should I just go with VMWare fusion? I like the ability to run windows in a virtual machine when I have to use it, but has anyone run in to any issues using applications like kurzweil or openbook in a virtual windows environment? Thanks Damashe Skype: damashe.thomas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Two questions about virtual machines and a brief intro
Ok, thanks Paul. I appreciate the input, especially the information about losing keys on jaws. - Original Message - From: Paul Hunt To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:33 PM Subject: RE: Two questions about virtual machines and a brief intro Hello Alex. I'm using Windows 7 in VM Fusion. Yes, In many instances it can take a minute or two to recognize pages. On the other hand, my wife has Windows XP running in Bootcamp and pages are recognized in a matter of seconds. There are a couple of other things you should know. Focus Braille Drivers do not load in the Virtual Machine and Freedom Scientific is not willing to help resolve the issue because they don't support running JAWS or any of their applications in Virtual machines. Finally, any time you change the configuration of your Virtual Machine you lose an activation. Freedom Scientific is not willing to issue additional keys very often. On the plus side, You can install Windows without sighted assistance. You can also add printers and read and write documents stored on the Mac side. In addition, because your virtual machine is just an image, it's easy to restore it from a backup. So you can see that thare are tradeoffs. After considering all of them, I'm willing to switch over to Bootcamp for the increased performance. I'll use Drop Box whenever I need to move folders from the Mac side to the Windows side. HTH From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Damashe Thomas Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 9:04 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Two questions about virtual machines and a brief intro Hello, Thanks for the notice Alex, I will take a look at virtualbox also. Paul, is performance terrible with openbook? Thanks - Original Message - From: Paul Hunt To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 7:15 PM Subject: Re: Two questions about virtual machines and a brief intro Hello Damash. I have been using fusion for two years. In general it works fine but peformance is much better with bootcamp especially with Open Book. On Aug 15, 2012, at 11:39 AM, Damashe Thomas damashe.tho...@gmail.com wrote: Hello List, My name is Damashe Thomas and I am fairly new to the macvisionaries group. I live in the great state of Georgia. I have been a very happy iOS user for the past four years and am preparing to make the move to the mac. I have two quick questions to get started. Does anyone have experience with the latest version of parallels and can speak about the accessibility of that app. Is it a possible option or should I just go with VMWare fusion? I like the ability to run windows in a virtual machine when I have to use it, but has anyone run in to any issues using applications like kurzweil or openbook in a virtual windows environment? Thanks Damashe Skype: damashe.thomas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Two questions about virtual machines and a brief intro
One word: NVDA. Go to http://www.nvda-project.org to find out more and download this program, but it's basically a free screen reader that is updated regularly, has no licensing or driver problems, and... well, it's free! After all, do you really need to pay hundreds for a screen reader on an OS you use seldom enough that you can run it virtually? Maybe you do, I'm not trying to start anything, but it seems like a valid question. If you can get by with a free screen reader for the times you do need Windows, you could save a lot of money, time, and aggravation by not dealing with jfw, which is not even supported on virtual machines. To be fair I have not yet tried nvda on a vm, but I have not heard of anyone having problems with it on the development or support email lists. Now, off to research virtualbox so I can have a leg to stand on regarding nvda on a vm... On Aug 15, 2012, at 10:38 PM, Damashe Thomas damashe.tho...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, thanks Paul. I appreciate the input, especially the information about losing keys on jaws. - Original Message - From: Paul Hunt To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:33 PM Subject: RE: Two questions about virtual machines and a brief intro Hello Alex. I’m using Windows 7 in VM Fusion. Yes, In many instances it can take a minute or two to recognize pages. On the other hand, my wife has Windows XP running in Bootcamp and pages are recognized in a matter of seconds. There are a couple of other things you should know. Focus Braille Drivers do not load in the Virtual Machine and Freedom Scientific is not willing to help resolve the issue because they don’t support running JAWS or any of their applications in Virtual machines. Finally, any time you change the configuration of your Virtual Machine you lose an activation. Freedom Scientific is not willing to issue additional keys very often. On the plus side, You can install Windows without sighted assistance. You can also add printers and read and write documents stored on the Mac side. In addition, because your virtual machine is just an image, it’s easy to restore it from a backup. So you can see that thare are tradeoffs. After considering all of them, I’m willing to switch over to Bootcamp for the increased performance. I’ll use Drop Box whenever I need to move folders from the Mac side to the Windows side. HTH From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Damashe Thomas Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 9:04 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Two questions about virtual machines and a brief intro Hello, Thanks for the notice Alex, I will take a look at virtualbox also. Paul, is performance terrible with openbook? Thanks - Original Message - From: Paul Hunt To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 7:15 PM Subject: Re: Two questions about virtual machines and a brief intro Hello Damash. I have been using fusion for two years. In general it works fine but peformance is much better with bootcamp especially with Open Book. On Aug 15, 2012, at 11:39 AM, Damashe Thomas damashe.tho...@gmail.com wrote: Hello List, My name is Damashe Thomas and I am fairly new to the macvisionaries group. I live in the great state of Georgia. I have been a very happy iOS user for the past four years and am preparing to make the move to the mac. I have two quick questions to get started. Does anyone have experience with the latest version of parallels and can speak about the accessibility of that app. Is it a possible option or should I just go with VMWare fusion? I like the ability to run windows in a virtual machine when I have to use it, but has anyone run in to any issues using applications like kurzweil or openbook in a virtual windows environment? Thanks Damashe Skype: damashe.thomas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email tomacvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit
Re: Two questions about virtual machines and a brief intro
is virtual box vo friendly? last I used it it wasnt On 8/15/2012 7:04 PM, Damashe Thomas wrote: Hello, Thanks for the notice Alex, I will take a look at virtualbox also. Paul, is performance terrible with openbook? Thanks - Original Message - *From:* Paul Hunt mailto:prhu...@att.net *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, August 15, 2012 7:15 PM *Subject:* Re: Two questions about virtual machines and a brief intro Hello Damash. I have been using fusion for two years. In general it works fine but peformance is much better with bootcamp especially with Open Book. On Aug 15, 2012, at 11:39 AM, Damashe Thomas damashe.tho...@gmail.com mailto:damashe.tho...@gmail.com wrote: Hello List, My name is Damashe Thomas and I am fairly new to the macvisionaries group. I live in the great state of Georgia. I have been a very happy iOS user for the past four years and am preparing to make the move to the mac. I have two quick questions to get started. Does anyone have experience with the latest version of parallels and can speak about the accessibility of that app. Is it a possible option or should I just go with VMWare fusion? I like the ability to run windows in a virtual machine when I have to use it, but has anyone run in to any issues using applications like kurzweil or openbook in a virtual windows environment? Thanks Damashe Skype: damashe.thomas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- websites: http://www.xpango.com/?ref=92757322 http://hanksmith1.zeekrewards.com http://prelaunchx.com/x/hanksmith5 http://www.virtapay.com/r/hanksmith5 http://www.reality-networkers.com/index.php?refid=3950951 personal email: hanksm...@hanksmith.net twitter: @hanksmith2011 facebook: http://www.facebook.com/hanksmith5 zello: hanksmith5 Klango: hanksmith Skype: hank.smith966 Amateur radio call sign: ke7ief check out my Youtube video of a song I recorded in Nashville Tennessee! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqut5Bi3e7A also you can find my youtube channel at: http://www.youtube.com/hanksmith2011 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Two questions about virtual machines and a brief intro
As I said, it is not. However, AI hear it has extensive command line options, so controlling it through terminal should be possible. I am investigating now and will report back once I know more. On Aug 15, 2012, at 11:39 PM, Hank Smith hanksm...@hanksmith.net wrote: is virtual box vo friendly? last I used it it wasnt On 8/15/2012 7:04 PM, Damashe Thomas wrote: Hello, Thanks for the notice Alex, I will take a look at virtualbox also. Paul, is performance terrible with openbook? Thanks - Original Message - From: Paul Hunt To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 7:15 PM Subject: Re: Two questions about virtual machines and a brief intro Hello Damash. I have been using fusion for two years. In general it works fine but peformance is much better with bootcamp especially with Open Book. On Aug 15, 2012, at 11:39 AM, Damashe Thomas damashe.tho...@gmail.com wrote: Hello List, My name is Damashe Thomas and I am fairly new to the macvisionaries group. I live in the great state of Georgia. I have been a very happy iOS user for the past four years and am preparing to make the move to the mac. I have two quick questions to get started. Does anyone have experience with the latest version of parallels and can speak about the accessibility of that app. Is it a possible option or should I just go with VMWare fusion? I like the ability to run windows in a virtual machine when I have to use it, but has anyone run in to any issues using applications like kurzweil or openbook in a virtual windows environment? Thanks Damashe Skype: damashe.thomas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- websites: http://www.xpango.com/?ref=92757322 http://hanksmith1.zeekrewards.com http://prelaunchx.com/x/hanksmith5 http://www.virtapay.com/r/hanksmith5 http://www.reality-networkers.com/index.php?refid=3950951 personal email: hanksm...@hanksmith.net twitter: @hanksmith2011 facebook: http://www.facebook.com/hanksmith5 zello: hanksmith5 Klango: hanksmith Skype: hank.smith966 Amateur radio call sign: ke7ief check out my Youtube video of a song I recorded in Nashville Tennessee! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqut5Bi3e7A also you can find my youtube channel at: http://www.youtube.com/hanksmith2011 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Two questions about virtual machines and a brief intro
I am very familiar with NVDA. I have used it as well as Serotek's SATOGO also. But since I expect my windows use to be very light, I will be chosing a much cheaper or even free option once my license for jaws runs out. Let me know about how virtualbox works out. - Original Message - From: Alex Hall To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 11:30 PM Subject: Re: Two questions about virtual machines and a brief intro One word: NVDA. Go to http://www.nvda-project.org to find out more and download this program, but it's basically a free screen reader that is updated regularly, has no licensing or driver problems, and... well, it's free! After all, do you really need to pay hundreds for a screen reader on an OS you use seldom enough that you can run it virtually? Maybe you do, I'm not trying to start anything, but it seems like a valid question. If you can get by with a free screen reader for the times you do need Windows, you could save a lot of money, time, and aggravation by not dealing with jfw, which is not even supported on virtual machines. To be fair I have not yet tried nvda on a vm, but I have not heard of anyone having problems with it on the development or support email lists. Now, off to research virtualbox so I can have a leg to stand on regarding nvda on a vm... On Aug 15, 2012, at 10:38 PM, Damashe Thomas damashe.tho...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, thanks Paul. I appreciate the input, especially the information about losing keys on jaws. - Original Message - From: Paul Hunt To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:33 PM Subject: RE: Two questions about virtual machines and a brief intro Hello Alex. I’m using Windows 7 in VM Fusion. Yes, In many instances it can take a minute or two to recognize pages. On the other hand, my wife has Windows XP running in Bootcamp and pages are recognized in a matter of seconds. There are a couple of other things you should know. Focus Braille Drivers do not load in the Virtual Machine and Freedom Scientific is not willing to help resolve the issue because they don’t support running JAWS or any of their applications in Virtual machines. Finally, any time you change the configuration of your Virtual Machine you lose an activation. Freedom Scientific is not willing to issue additional keys very often. On the plus side, You can install Windows without sighted assistance. You can also add printers and read and write documents stored on the Mac side. In addition, because your virtual machine is just an image, it’s easy to restore it from a backup. So you can see that thare are tradeoffs. After considering all of them, I’m willing to switch over to Bootcamp for the increased performance. I’ll use Drop Box whenever I need to move folders from the Mac side to the Windows side. HTH From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Damashe Thomas Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 9:04 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Two questions about virtual machines and a brief intro Hello, Thanks for the notice Alex, I will take a look at virtualbox also. Paul, is performance terrible with openbook? Thanks - Original Message - From: Paul Hunt To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 7:15 PM Subject: Re: Two questions about virtual machines and a brief intro Hello Damash. I have been using fusion for two years. In general it works fine but peformance is much better with bootcamp especially with Open Book. On Aug 15, 2012, at 11:39 AM, Damashe Thomas damashe.tho...@gmail.com wrote: Hello List, My name is Damashe Thomas and I am fairly new to the macvisionaries group. I live in the great state of Georgia. I have been a very happy iOS user for the past four years and am preparing to make the move to the mac. I have two quick questions to get started. Does anyone have experience with the latest version of parallels and can speak about the accessibility of that app. Is it a possible option or should I just go with VMWare fusion? I like the ability to run windows in a virtual machine when I have to use it, but has anyone run in to any issues using applications like kurzweil or openbook in a virtual windows environment? Thanks Damashe Skype: damashe.thomas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email tomacvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com
Intro
Hi guys my name is alberto I have been on this list for a while, but haven't contributed much to the list since I don't own a Mac yet. Many of the members I've seen so far on here probably know me from 3 lists I run myself. I am going to be a little more active now since I am going to be getting one when mountain lion is released and hopefully a macbook pro refresh. I am currently using a PC, but I've been wanting to get a Mac for a long time. I haven't been able because I have been a little low on money. I am a college student and I am sure many of you know how that is. I don't have any questions for the list just yet, but I will soon. I will continue reading the posts from the experts for now, but I will answer or try to answer any questions that pop up in reference with the iPhone. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Word processing Q and intro
Hi, I purchased Pages a few years ago, maybe in 2009, and at that time it did not work well with VO. While I was able to work within the application VO had difficulties with focus and with continius reading from one page to another. Perhaps things have been improved in subsiquent releases? What version are you using? On Jul 25, 2011, at 7:07 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Larry, What are your problems with Pages? If you could be specific, I might be able to help you. Cheers, Anne On 25 Jul 2011, at 15:56, Larry Wanger wrote: Hi, I used to be on this list and with the release of Lion and some issues I'm having I decided to begin participating once again. I've been using a Mac since at least 2006. My question relates to finding a good word processing program. I'm starting graduate school in a few weeks and a big part of that will be research and writing. I currently have Pages and Text Edit on my iMac. Pages has ongoing Voiceover issues and Text Edit seemingly is very basic and lacks the tools I might need. I've tried Open Office with mixed results. That could be an option as I may not have spent enough time with it. I wonder if anyone has other suggestions for fully accessible word processing programs that are equivalent to MS Office in terms of functionality? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Word processing Q and intro
Hello Larry, I'm using iWork09 with all updates applied. I would never use Pages just for reading, I prefer TextEdit for that. I can achieve most things I want using Pages, but there are problems. VoiceOver Find commands (find next, find previous, etc for bold, italic, colour change, font change, and so on) don't work at all, but VO-t will provide the information. As far as I'm concerned, this is the worst problem with Pages. Cheers, Anne On 26 Jul 2011, at 16:28, Larry Wanger wrote: Hi, I purchased Pages a few years ago, maybe in 2009, and at that time it did not work well with VO. While I was able to work within the application VO had difficulties with focus and with continius reading from one page to another. Perhaps things have been improved in subsiquent releases? What version are you using? On Jul 25, 2011, at 7:07 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Larry, What are your problems with Pages? If you could be specific, I might be able to help you. Cheers, Anne On 25 Jul 2011, at 15:56, Larry Wanger wrote: Hi, I used to be on this list and with the release of Lion and some issues I'm having I decided to begin participating once again. I've been using a Mac since at least 2006. My question relates to finding a good word processing program. I'm starting graduate school in a few weeks and a big part of that will be research and writing. I currently have Pages and Text Edit on my iMac. Pages has ongoing Voiceover issues and Text Edit seemingly is very basic and lacks the tools I might need. I've tried Open Office with mixed results. That could be an option as I may not have spent enough time with it. I wonder if anyone has other suggestions for fully accessible word processing programs that are equivalent to MS Office in terms of functionality? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Word processing Q and intro
Hi, I used to be on this list and with the release of Lion and some issues I'm having I decided to begin participating once again. I've been using a Mac since at least 2006. My question relates to finding a good word processing program. I'm starting graduate school in a few weeks and a big part of that will be research and writing. I currently have Pages and Text Edit on my iMac. Pages has ongoing Voiceover issues and Text Edit seemingly is very basic and lacks the tools I might need. I've tried Open Office with mixed results. That could be an option as I may not have spent enough time with it. I wonder if anyone has other suggestions for fully accessible word processing programs that are equivalent to MS Office in terms of functionality? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Word processing Q and intro
Hello Larry, What are your problems with Pages? If you could be specific, I might be able to help you. Cheers, Anne On 25 Jul 2011, at 15:56, Larry Wanger wrote: Hi, I used to be on this list and with the release of Lion and some issues I'm having I decided to begin participating once again. I've been using a Mac since at least 2006. My question relates to finding a good word processing program. I'm starting graduate school in a few weeks and a big part of that will be research and writing. I currently have Pages and Text Edit on my iMac. Pages has ongoing Voiceover issues and Text Edit seemingly is very basic and lacks the tools I might need. I've tried Open Office with mixed results. That could be an option as I may not have spent enough time with it. I wonder if anyone has other suggestions for fully accessible word processing programs that are equivalent to MS Office in terms of functionality? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Intro a Question
Hello All, I wanted to introduce myself, as a new MacBook user member of the list. I've used DOS then Windows, since '89 or '90 with JAWS. However, I recently made the switch to a MacBook Pro VoiceOver I am loving it so far. Also, I wanted to know if anyone has used Band-in-a-Box for the Mac with VoiceOver? If so, I was wondering what kind of results they had gotten? I used to use the program in Windows with JAWS, but it took a lot of scripts to make it happen. That's about it I look forward to reading your posts learning with you. From sunny dry southern Arizona, CJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Intro and Questions
Hello Everyone, My name is Ezzy, and I am new to the Mac Visionaries list. I am a college student and am also new to the Mac. I had a few questions that I was hoping someone could answer: 1. What exactly do I need to create a mail record? I've tried setting up my Gmail account, but I believe I keep doing something wrong. 2. On the Internet, how can I browse by specific elements (for example, by headings)? Thanks in advance. Have a wonderful day! Ezzy (Sent from my BrailleNote Apex) (512) 553-8553 Skype: SillyEz Facebook: www.facebook.com/sillyez -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Intro and Questions
I can answer your question about browsing the internet. To browse by headings press control/option,command/H for headings. For tables: control/option/command T. For visited links: control/option/command V. Also you might find the web item rotor handy. Press control/option U and then VO right, left, and up and down arrows to see elements on the page divided into categories such as links, visited links, tables, etc. Press enter on the element you would like to go to. In order to get a complete list of all the elements on a web page, press control option I. You can then begin typing any word you might be looking for and you will move to that in the list. You will need to press enter on it to go to the actual element. I'm sure someone else can answer your question about mail. hth and welcome to the list. On Nov 23, 2010, at 8:24 PM, Ezzy Bueno wrote: Hello Everyone, My name is Ezzy, and I am new to the Mac Visionaries list. I am a college student and am also new to the Mac. I had a few questions that I was hoping someone could answer: 1. What exactly do I need to create a mail record? I've tried setting up my Gmail account, but I believe I keep doing something wrong. 2. On the Internet, how can I browse by specific elements (for example, by headings)? Thanks in advance. Have a wonderful day! Ezzy (Sent from my BrailleNote Apex) (512) 553-8553 Skype: SillyEz Facebook: www.facebook.com/sillyez -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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Thank you so much, Kim! Ezzy - Original Message - From: Kimberly thurman kimthur...@insightbb.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Date sent: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 20:38:25 -0500 Subject: Re: Intro and Questions I can answer your question about browsing the internet. To browse by headings press control/option,command/H for headings. For tables: control/option/command T. For visited links: control/option/command V. Also you might find the web item rotor handy. Press control/option U and then VO right, left, and up and down arrows to see elements on the page divided into categories such as links, visited links, tables, etc. Press enter on the element you would like to go to. In order to get a complete list of all the elements on a web page, press control option I. You can then begin typing any word you might be looking for and you will move to that in the list. You will need to press enter on it to go to the actual element. I'm sure someone else can answer your question about mail. hth and welcome to the list. On Nov 23, 2010, at 8:24 PM, Ezzy Bueno wrote: Hello Everyone, My name is Ezzy, and I am new to the Mac Visionaries list. I am a college student and am also new to the Mac. I had a few questions that I was hoping someone could answer: 1. What exactly do I need to create a mail record? I've tried setting up my Gmail account, but I believe I keep doing something wrong. 2. On the Internet, how can I browse by specific elements (for example, by headings)? Thanks in advance. Have a wonderful day! Ezzy (Sent from my BrailleNote Apex) (512) 553-8553 Skype: SillyEz Facebook: www.facebook.com/sillyez -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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To answer yoru second question you can use the web roter to brose by heading whch is ctrl option u and left and right arrow to heading, or yiou can hit cmd ctrl option h and add a shift witht hat if you want to go back by headings. S On Nov 23, 2010, at 5:24 PM, Ezzy Bueno wrote: Hello Everyone, My name is Ezzy, and I am new to the Mac Visionaries list. I am a college student and am also new to the Mac. I had a few questions that I was hoping someone could answer: 1. What exactly do I need to create a mail record? I've tried setting up my Gmail account, but I believe I keep doing something wrong. 2. On the Internet, how can I browse by specific elements (for example, by headings)? Thanks in advance. Have a wonderful day! Ezzy (Sent from my BrailleNote Apex) (512) 553-8553 Skype: SillyEz Facebook: www.facebook.com/sillyez -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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Hi, I would like to suggest using keyboard help. In this mode, you can press key combinations to learn the various keyboard commands. Turn keyboard help on press control option K. You can then press escape when your done. hth Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 On Nov 23, 2010, at 8:44 PM, Ezzy Bueno wrote: Thank you so much, Kim! Ezzy - Original Message - From: Kimberly thurman kimthur...@insightbb.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Date sent: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 20:38:25 -0500 Subject: Re: Intro and Questions I can answer your question about browsing the internet. To browse by headings press control/option,command/H for headings. For tables: control/option/command T. For visited links: control/option/command V. Also you might find the web item rotor handy. Press control/option U and then VO right, left, and up and down arrows to see elements on the page divided into categories such as links, visited links, tables, etc. Press enter on the element you would like to go to. In order to get a complete list of all the elements on a web page, press control option I. You can then begin typing any word you might be looking for and you will move to that in the list. You will need to press enter on it to go to the actual element. I'm sure someone else can answer your question about mail. hth and welcome to the list. On Nov 23, 2010, at 8:24 PM, Ezzy Bueno wrote: Hello Everyone, My name is Ezzy, and I am new to the Mac Visionaries list. I am a college student and am also new to the Mac. I had a few questions that I was hoping someone could answer: 1. What exactly do I need to create a mail record? I've tried setting up my Gmail account, but I believe I keep doing something wrong. 2. On the Internet, how can I browse by specific elements (for example, by headings)? Thanks in advance. Have a wonderful day! Ezzy (Sent from my BrailleNote Apex) (512) 553-8553 Skype: SillyEz Facebook: www.facebook.com/sillyez -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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lol. It's remembering all of those key combos that get me. I've been a mac user for bout 8 months and I'll never remember all of this stuff, in the same breath though keyboard help is a life savor! Take care all. S On Nov 23, 2010, at 6:10 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, I would like to suggest using keyboard help. In this mode, you can press key combinations to learn the various keyboard commands. Turn keyboard help on press control option K. You can then press escape when your done. hth Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 On Nov 23, 2010, at 8:44 PM, Ezzy Bueno wrote: Thank you so much, Kim! Ezzy - Original Message - From: Kimberly thurman kimthur...@insightbb.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Date sent: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 20:38:25 -0500 Subject: Re: Intro and Questions I can answer your question about browsing the internet. To browse by headings press control/option,command/H for headings. For tables: control/option/command T. For visited links: control/option/command V. Also you might find the web item rotor handy. Press control/option U and then VO right, left, and up and down arrows to see elements on the page divided into categories such as links, visited links, tables, etc. Press enter on the element you would like to go to. In order to get a complete list of all the elements on a web page, press control option I. You can then begin typing any word you might be looking for and you will move to that in the list. You will need to press enter on it to go to the actual element. I'm sure someone else can answer your question about mail. hth and welcome to the list. On Nov 23, 2010, at 8:24 PM, Ezzy Bueno wrote: Hello Everyone, My name is Ezzy, and I am new to the Mac Visionaries list. I am a college student and am also new to the Mac. I had a few questions that I was hoping someone could answer: 1. What exactly do I need to create a mail record? I've tried setting up my Gmail account, but I believe I keep doing something wrong. 2. On the Internet, how can I browse by specific elements (for example, by headings)? Thanks in advance. Have a wonderful day! Ezzy (Sent from my BrailleNote Apex) (512) 553-8553 Skype: SillyEz Facebook: www.facebook.com/sillyez -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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Hello Ezzy: There is also something handy called the web item roter which you can set up to allow you to move quickly to links, headers, frames etc. You can invoke the roter by pressing VO-keys U. Then you can arrow down whichever collumn you want to search. I used that a lot in the beginning when I couldn't remember all the cmmands to go places on a web page. Gmail still somewhat illudes me. I kind of set mine up by accident.:) So, I'll leave that for someone else. Welcome On Nov 23, 2010, at 6:44 PM, Ezzy Bueno wrote: Thank you so much, Kim! Ezzy - Original Message - From: Kimberly thurman kimthur...@insightbb.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Date sent: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 20:38:25 -0500 Subject: Re: Intro and Questions I can answer your question about browsing the internet. To browse by headings press control/option,command/H for headings. For tables: control/option/command T. For visited links: control/option/command V. Also you might find the web item rotor handy. Press control/option U and then VO right, left, and up and down arrows to see elements on the page divided into categories such as links, visited links, tables, etc. Press enter on the element you would like to go to. In order to get a complete list of all the elements on a web page, press control option I. You can then begin typing any word you might be looking for and you will move to that in the list. You will need to press enter on it to go to the actual element. I'm sure someone else can answer your question about mail. hth and welcome to the list. On Nov 23, 2010, at 8:24 PM, Ezzy Bueno wrote: Hello Everyone, My name is Ezzy, and I am new to the Mac Visionaries list. I am a college student and am also new to the Mac. I had a few questions that I was hoping someone could answer: 1. What exactly do I need to create a mail record? I've tried setting up my Gmail account, but I believe I keep doing something wrong. 2. On the Internet, how can I browse by specific elements (for example, by headings)? Thanks in advance. Have a wonderful day! Ezzy (Sent from my BrailleNote Apex) (512) 553-8553 Skype: SillyEz Facebook: www.facebook.com/sillyez -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Carolyn Haas chaas0...@gmail.com When you come to a fork in the road, It's time to eat. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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Thank you so much, Carolyn! Ezzy - Original Message - From: Carolyn Haas chaas0...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Date sent: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 19:54:32 -0700 Subject: Re: Intro and Questions Hello Ezzy: There is also something handy called the web item roter which you can set up to allow you to move quickly to links, headers, frames etc. You can invoke the roter by pressing VO-keys U. Then you can arrow down whichever collumn you want to search. I used that a lot in the beginning when I couldn't remember all the cmmands to go places on a web page. Gmail still somewhat illudes me. I kind of set mine up by accident.:) So, I'll leave that for someone else. Welcome On Nov 23, 2010, at 6:44 PM, Ezzy Bueno wrote: Thank you so much, Kim! Ezzy - Original Message - From: Kimberly thurman kimthur...@insightbb.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Date sent: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 20:38:25 -0500 Subject: Re: Intro and Questions I can answer your question about browsing the internet. To browse by headings press control/option,command/H for headings. For tables: control/option/command T. For visited links: control/option/command V. Also you might find the web item rotor handy. Press control/option U and then VO right, left, and up and down arrows to see elements on the page divided into categories such as links, visited links, tables, etc. Press enter on the element you would like to go to. In order to get a complete list of all the elements on a web page, press control option I. You can then begin typing any word you might be looking for and you will move to that in the list. You will need to press enter on it to go to the actual element. I'm sure someone else can answer your question about mail. hth and welcome to the list. On Nov 23, 2010, at 8:24 PM, Ezzy Bueno wrote: Hello Everyone, My name is Ezzy, and I am new to the Mac Visionaries list. I am a college student and am also new to the Mac. I had a few questions that I was hoping someone could answer: 1. What exactly do I need to create a mail record? I've tried setting up my Gmail account, but I believe I keep doing something wrong. 2. On the Internet, how can I browse by specific elements (for example, by headings)? Thanks in advance. Have a wonderful day! Ezzy (Sent from my BrailleNote Apex) (512) 553-8553 Skype: SillyEz Facebook: www.facebook.com/sillyez -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Carolyn Haas chaas0...@gmail.com When you come to a fork in the road, It's time to eat. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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Hi, there is yet another way to navigate by headings, links, etc. press the left and right arrows together to turn on quick nav. this will allow you to navigate without using the vo keys which are control option. so instead of using control option right arrow to move to the next element, you just hit right arrow. It will let you edit text fields, doesn't interfere with the letters. When in quick nav mode. you can press the right and up arrows together to go right on the rotor described before, and the left and up arrows to go left. then, you just hit down or up arrow and you will be in the next of that element; eg tables, links, etc. You are just there, don't have to press enter to find it. Something else with quick nav. Pressing the right and down arrows together lest you interact just like control option shift down arrow, and the left and down arrows together stops interacting like control option shift up arrow. Oh, another method I forgot is the trackpad commander. If you are using a macbook or have a trackpad, you can turn it on by pressing control option and turning two fingers on the trackpad clockwise like a dial. then, you can navigate by flicking left or right or by moving your finger down the trackpad and touching the different elements on the screen. to use the rotor, turn two fingers clock or anti clockwise on the trackpad until you find the element you want, then flick up or down and you will be on the previous or next instance of that element just like with quick nav. also, to interact, flick right with two fingers and to stop interacting flick left with two fingers. hope this helps and welcome to the list and to the world of the wonderful mac and voiceover. rafaela El 23/11/2010, a las 22:40, Ezzy Bueno escribió: Thank you so much, Carolyn! Ezzy - Original Message - From: Carolyn Haas chaas0...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Date sent: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 19:54:32 -0700 Subject: Re: Intro and Questions Hello Ezzy: There is also something handy called the web item roter which you can set up to allow you to move quickly to links, headers, frames etc. You can invoke the roter by pressing VO-keys U. Then you can arrow down whichever collumn you want to search. I used that a lot in the beginning when I couldn't remember all the cmmands to go places on a web page. Gmail still somewhat illudes me. I kind of set mine up by accident.:) So, I'll leave that for someone else. Welcome On Nov 23, 2010, at 6:44 PM, Ezzy Bueno wrote: Thank you so much, Kim! Ezzy - Original Message - From: Kimberly thurman kimthur...@insightbb.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Date sent: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 20:38:25 -0500 Subject: Re: Intro and Questions I can answer your question about browsing the internet. To browse by headings press control/option,command/H for headings. For tables: control/option/command T. For visited links: control/option/command V. Also you might find the web item rotor handy. Press control/option U and then VO right, left, and up and down arrows to see elements on the page divided into categories such as links, visited links, tables, etc. Press enter on the element you would like to go to. In order to get a complete list of all the elements on a web page, press control option I. You can then begin typing any word you might be looking for and you will move to that in the list. You will need to press enter on it to go to the actual element. I'm sure someone else can answer your question about mail. hth and welcome to the list. On Nov 23, 2010, at 8:24 PM, Ezzy Bueno wrote: Hello Everyone, My name is Ezzy, and I am new to the Mac Visionaries list. I am a college student and am also new to the Mac. I had a few questions that I was hoping someone could answer: 1. What exactly do I need to create a mail record? I've tried setting up my Gmail account, but I believe I keep doing something wrong. 2. On the Internet, how can I browse by specific elements (for example, by headings)? Thanks in advance. Have a wonderful day! Ezzy (Sent from my BrailleNote Apex) (512) 553-8553 Skype: SillyEz Facebook: www.facebook.com/sillyez -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en
Re: Intro and Questions
This message is getting saved up for when I get my mac in a few weeks. Thanks so long. Regards, Brandt Steenkamp MSN/Windows live: brandt...@live.com Google talk: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 - Original Message - From: Rafaela Freundt rafafreu...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 6:49 AM Subject: Re: Intro and Questions Hi, there is yet another way to navigate by headings, links, etc. press the left and right arrows together to turn on quick nav. this will allow you to navigate without using the vo keys which are control option. so instead of using control option right arrow to move to the next element, you just hit right arrow. It will let you edit text fields, doesn't interfere with the letters. When in quick nav mode. you can press the right and up arrows together to go right on the rotor described before, and the left and up arrows to go left. then, you just hit down or up arrow and you will be in the next of that element; eg tables, links, etc. You are just there, don't have to press enter to find it. Something else with quick nav. Pressing the right and down arrows together lest you interact just like control option shift down arrow, and the left and down arrows together stops interacting like control option shift up arrow. Oh, another method I forgot is the trackpad commander. If you are using a macbook or have a trackpad, you can turn it on by pressing control option and turning two fingers on the trackpad clockwise like a dial. then, you can navigate by flicking left or right or by moving your finger down the trackpad and touching the different elements on the screen. to use the rotor, turn two fingers clock or anti clockwise on the trackpad until you find the element you want, then flick up or down and you will be on the previous or next instance of that element just like with quick nav. also, to interact, flick right with two fingers and to stop interacting flick left with two fingers. hope this helps and welcome to the list and to the world of the wonderful mac and voiceover. rafaela El 23/11/2010, a las 22:40, Ezzy Bueno escribió: Thank you so much, Carolyn! Ezzy - Original Message - From: Carolyn Haas chaas0...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Date sent: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 19:54:32 -0700 Subject: Re: Intro and Questions Hello Ezzy: There is also something handy called the web item roter which you can set up to allow you to move quickly to links, headers, frames etc. You can invoke the roter by pressing VO-keys U. Then you can arrow down whichever collumn you want to search. I used that a lot in the beginning when I couldn't remember all the cmmands to go places on a web page. Gmail still somewhat illudes me. I kind of set mine up by accident.:) So, I'll leave that for someone else. Welcome On Nov 23, 2010, at 6:44 PM, Ezzy Bueno wrote: Thank you so much, Kim! Ezzy - Original Message - From: Kimberly thurman kimthur...@insightbb.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Date sent: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 20:38:25 -0500 Subject: Re: Intro and Questions I can answer your question about browsing the internet. To browse by headings press control/option,command/H for headings. For tables: control/option/command T. For visited links: control/option/command V. Also you might find the web item rotor handy. Press control/option U and then VO right, left, and up and down arrows to see elements on the page divided into categories such as links, visited links, tables, etc. Press enter on the element you would like to go to. In order to get a complete list of all the elements on a web page, press control option I. You can then begin typing any word you might be looking for and you will move to that in the list. You will need to press enter on it to go to the actual element. I'm sure someone else can answer your question about mail. hth and welcome to the list. On Nov 23, 2010, at 8:24 PM, Ezzy Bueno wrote: Hello Everyone, My name is Ezzy, and I am new to the Mac Visionaries list. I am a college student and am also new to the Mac. I had a few questions that I was hoping someone could answer: 1. What exactly do I need to create a mail record? I've tried setting up my Gmail account, but I believe I keep doing something wrong. 2. On the Internet, how can I browse by specific elements (for example, by headings)? Thanks in advance. Have a wonderful day! Ezzy (Sent from my BrailleNote Apex) (512) 553-8553 Skype: SillyEz Facebook: www.facebook.com/sillyez -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group
Re: Intro and Questions
Thank you very much, Rafaela! I like the Quick Nav methon a lot! Ezzy - Original Message - From: Rafaela Freundt rafafreu...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Date sent: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 23:49:37 -0500 Subject: Re: Intro and Questions Hi, there is yet another way to navigate by headings, links, etc. press the left and right arrows together to turn on quick nav. this will allow you to navigate without using the vo keys which are control option. so instead of using control option right arrow to move to the next element, you just hit right arrow. It will let you edit text fields, doesn't interfere with the letters. When in quick nav mode. you can press the right and up arrows together to go right on the rotor described before, and the left and up arrows to go left. then, you just hit down or up arrow and you will be in the next of that element; eg tables, links, etc. You are just there, don't have to press enter to find it. Something else with quick nav. Pressing the right and down arrows together lest you interact just like control option shift down arrow, and the left and down arrows together stops interacting like control option shift up arrow. Oh, another method I forgot is the trackpad commander. If you are using a macbook or have a trackpad, you can turn it on by pressing control option and turning two fingers on the trackpad clockwise like a dial. then, you can navigate by flicking left or right or by moving your finger down the trackpad and touching the different elements on the screen. to use the rotor, turn two fingers clock or anti clockwise on the trackpad until you find the element you want, then flick up or down and you will be on the previous or next instance of that element just like with quick nav. also, to interact, flick right with two fingers and to stop interacting flick left with two fingers. hope this helps and welcome to the list and to the world of the wonderful mac and voiceover. rafaela El 23/11/2010, a las 22:40, Ezzy Bueno escribió: Thank you so much, Carolyn! Ezzy - Original Message - From: Carolyn Haas chaas0...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Date sent: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 19:54:32 -0700 Subject: Re: Intro and Questions Hello Ezzy: There is also something handy called the web item roter which you can set up to allow you to move quickly to links, headers, frames etc. You can invoke the roter by pressing VO-keys U. Then you can arrow down whichever collumn you want to search. I used that a lot in the beginning when I couldn't remember all the cmmands to go places on a web page. Gmail still somewhat illudes me. I kind of set mine up by accident.:) So, I'll leave that for someone else. Welcome On Nov 23, 2010, at 6:44 PM, Ezzy Bueno wrote: Thank you so much, Kim! Ezzy - Original Message - From: Kimberly thurman kimthur...@insightbb.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Date sent: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 20:38:25 -0500 Subject: Re: Intro and Questions I can answer your question about browsing the internet. To browse by headings press control/option,command/H for headings. For tables: control/option/command T. For visited links: control/option/command V. Also you might find the web item rotor handy. Press control/option U and then VO right, left, and up and down arrows to see elements on the page divided into categories such as links, visited links, tables, etc. Press enter on the element you would like to go to. In order to get a complete list of all the elements on a web page, press control option I. You can then begin typing any word you might be looking for and you will move to that in the list. You will need to press enter on it to go to the actual element. I'm sure someone else can answer your question about mail. hth and welcome to the list. On Nov 23, 2010, at 8:24 PM, Ezzy Bueno wrote: Hello Everyone, My name is Ezzy, and I am new to the Mac Visionaries list. I am a college student and am also new to the Mac. I had a few questions that I was hoping someone could answer: 1. What exactly do I need to create a mail record? I've tried setting up my Gmail account, but I believe I keep doing something wrong. 2. On the Internet, how can I browse by specific elements (for example, by headings)? Thanks in advance. Have a wonderful day! Ezzy (Sent from my BrailleNote Apex) (512) 553-8553 Skype: SillyEz Facebook: www.facebook.com/sillyez -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email
Intro - soon to be new MAC user
Hi all, Some of you may already recognize me from several other technology discussion lists and others may not. Well, I took the plunge last evening and ordered an iMac which hopefully will be here tomorrow. After moving over to the apple IOS platform for communications back this past January, I've been impressed with Apples commitment to produce more accessibility in their products. I made the decision to move to the MAC OSX platform because of many recent events in the audio and music territory but am impressed with other new actions coming about like bringing gestures to navigation to all MAC users. Unfortunately, I will not be totally leaving the PC/Windows environment since my job as a Software Development Manager requires me to use that platform since the agency I work for is strict on it's standards. Because of this, I have to keep Windows available at home - either running under Fusion or on my old run down XP Pro machine or even both. I felt it was important for me to move to the MAC at this time to experience all the new comings from Apple as they come out now in each release of OSX and versions of software such as the iLife 11 products - particularly GarageBand and it's new found accessibility. I've joined this group to hopefully learn more about techniques, available accessible software and maybe get back in touch with some old aquaintences I noticed are members on this list. I look forward to learning a new platform and learning from all of you. Best, Vince -- Vince Mistretta My Tech / Programming mailbox -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Intro - soon to be new MAC user
Hi Vince. Great to see you on this list and welcome. It's nice to see old friends on this list from other technology lists. Kawal. On 9 Nov 2010, at 19:07, Vince Mistretta wrote: Hi all, Some of you may already recognize me from several other technology discussion lists and others may not. Well, I took the plunge last evening and ordered an iMac which hopefully will be here tomorrow. After moving over to the apple IOS platform for communications back this past January, I've been impressed with Apples commitment to produce more accessibility in their products. I made the decision to move to the MAC OSX platform because of many recent events in the audio and music territory but am impressed with other new actions coming about like bringing gestures to navigation to all MAC users. Unfortunately, I will not be totally leaving the PC/Windows environment since my job as a Software Development Manager requires me to use that platform since the agency I work for is strict on it's standards. Because of this, I have to keep Windows available at home - either running under Fusion or on my old run down XP Pro machine or even both. I felt it was important for me to move to the MAC at this time to experience all the new comings from Apple as they come out now in each release of OSX and versions of software such as the iLife 11 products - particularly GarageBand and it's new found accessibility. I've joined this group to hopefully learn more about techniques, available accessible software and maybe get back in touch with some old aquaintences I noticed are members on this list. I look forward to learning a new platform and learning from all of you. Best, Vince -- Vince Mistretta My Tech / Programming mailbox -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 +447576240421 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Intro - soon to be new MAC user
Hi Vince, I'm Allison from New York. I recently took the plunge and switched to the Mac in April. I can't say that I'm good at operating it yet, but I have learned from all the folks on this list. I still have my Windows PCs around just in case I need to use Windows again. I don't miss viruses, spyware etc, but I have to use a Windows PC at work and rely on Window-Eyes. I think that Apple has done so much for improving and out of the box accessibility. I am happy to meet you, Vince, and I hope you enjoy your journey. Sincerely, Allison My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar! On Nov 9, 2010, at 4:51 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hi Vince. Great to see you on this list and welcome. It's nice to see old friends on this list from other technology lists. Kawal. On 9 Nov 2010, at 19:07, Vince Mistretta wrote: Hi all, Some of you may already recognize me from several other technology discussion lists and others may not. Well, I took the plunge last evening and ordered an iMac which hopefully will be here tomorrow. After moving over to the apple IOS platform for communications back this past January, I've been impressed with Apples commitment to produce more accessibility in their products. I made the decision to move to the MAC OSX platform because of many recent events in the audio and music territory but am impressed with other new actions coming about like bringing gestures to navigation to all MAC users. Unfortunately, I will not be totally leaving the PC/Windows environment since my job as a Software Development Manager requires me to use that platform since the agency I work for is strict on it's standards. Because of this, I have to keep Windows available at home - either running under Fusion or on my old run down XP Pro machine or even both. I felt it was important for me to move to the MAC at this time to experience all the new comings from Apple as they come out now in each release of OSX and versions of software such as the iLife 11 products - particularly GarageBand and it's new found accessibility. I've joined this group to hopefully learn more about techniques, available accessible software and maybe get back in touch with some old aquaintences I noticed are members on this list. I look forward to learning a new platform and learning from all of you. Best, Vince -- Vince Mistretta My Tech / Programming mailbox -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 +447576240421 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Intro - soon to be new MAC user
hello Vince. I am also glad that I took the mac plunge last year. I did it quite a bit before the onset of total blindness. I went from reading large print to listening to my screen. the funny thing was, I was already looking at voiceover because I was getting nasty headaches from trying to read large print. all it took for me to switch from one to another was a 2 finger combo (command+F5). after onset, I was exclusively in read screen mode by ear. I haven't slowed down much. I have had to get a helper app for some apps that aren't entirely accessible. other than that, its been well worth the $800 I paid for the used mac and the $29.00 for te OS X 10.6 install disk. on the whole, thats still cheaper than a windows box+OS+jaws. -Eric On Nov 9, 2010, at 6:38 PM, Allison Manzino wrote: Hi Vince, I'm Allison from New York. I recently took the plunge and switched to the Mac in April. I can't say that I'm good at operating it yet, but I have learned from all the folks on this list. I still have my Windows PCs around just in case I need to use Windows again. I don't miss viruses, spyware etc, but I have to use a Windows PC at work and rely on Window-Eyes. I think that Apple has done so much for improving and out of the box accessibility. I am happy to meet you, Vince, and I hope you enjoy your journey. Sincerely, Allison My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar! On Nov 9, 2010, at 4:51 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hi Vince. Great to see you on this list and welcome. It's nice to see old friends on this list from other technology lists. Kawal. On 9 Nov 2010, at 19:07, Vince Mistretta wrote: Hi all, Some of you may already recognize me from several other technology discussion lists and others may not. Well, I took the plunge last evening and ordered an iMac which hopefully will be here tomorrow. After moving over to the apple IOS platform for communications back this past January, I've been impressed with Apples commitment to produce more accessibility in their products. I made the decision to move to the MAC OSX platform because of many recent events in the audio and music territory but am impressed with other new actions coming about like bringing gestures to navigation to all MAC users. Unfortunately, I will not be totally leaving the PC/Windows environment since my job as a Software Development Manager requires me to use that platform since the agency I work for is strict on it's standards. Because of this, I have to keep Windows available at home - either running under Fusion or on my old run down XP Pro machine or even both. I felt it was important for me to move to the MAC at this time to experience all the new comings from Apple as they come out now in each release of OSX and versions of software such as the iLife 11 products - particularly GarageBand and it's new found accessibility. I've joined this group to hopefully learn more about techniques, available accessible software and maybe get back in touch with some old aquaintences I noticed are members on this list. I look forward to learning a new platform and learning from all of you. Best, Vince -- Vince Mistretta My Tech / Programming mailbox -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 +447576240421 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Intro and nooby questions
Morning all, Some of you probably know me from other lists and I've joined this one being an owner of a new Macbook Pro. I have been a JFW user for going on 14 years now but have never used a Mac until 2 days ago. I'm wondering if folks can give me a good starting point for orienting myself to this new way of doing things. Are there some good pointers for familiarizing yourself with Voice Over in addition to the included tutorial? Any getting started pointers would be appreciated or tips / tricks to help the transition from the windows JFW world to Mac. Any help would be greatly appreciated. My professional area of expertese is Network Engineering and I have about 20 years of experience in topics ranging from traffic engineering for large carrier networks, the finer points of running highly available large scale content provider environments and can pretty much offer tips on technologies ranging from your home wireless router on up to the latest Juniper M series or Cisco carrier class products so if there's any networking / connectivity questions I wouldn't mind adding my $.02. Thanks in advance for any pointers and I'll try to keep the rooky questions to a minimum and will use google first before asking the obvious. Thanks all and take care Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Intro and nooby questions
Welcome aboard, Scott. this is a great list, I think you'll find it very helpful. Take care, Donna On Aug 25, 2010, at 1:23 PM, Scott Granados wrote: Morning all, Some of you probably know me from other lists and I've joined this one being an owner of a new Macbook Pro. I have been a JFW user for going on 14 years now but have never used a Mac until 2 days ago. I'm wondering if folks can give me a good starting point for orienting myself to this new way of doing things. Are there some good pointers for familiarizing yourself with Voice Over in addition to the included tutorial? Any getting started pointers would be appreciated or tips / tricks to help the transition from the windows JFW world to Mac. Any help would be greatly appreciated. My professional area of expertese is Network Engineering and I have about 20 years of experience in topics ranging from traffic engineering for large carrier networks, the finer points of running highly available large scale content provider environments and can pretty much offer tips on technologies ranging from your home wireless router on up to the latest Juniper M series or Cisco carrier class products so if there's any networking / connectivity questions I wouldn't mind adding my $.02. Thanks in advance for any pointers and I'll try to keep the rooky questions to a minimum and will use google first before asking the obvious. Thanks all and take care Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Intro and nooby questions
Hello Scott, I too am trying to make friends with a new MacBookPro and probably need to pretend that my XP machine is not here when I'm using email or the web. I found the voiceOver documentation lacking in that instead of describing the regular system commands for performing functions, they document commands that are identical, yet unique to voiceOver which involve more key strokes. One example is VO+m to activate the menu which takes three fingers on two hands while control+f2 accomplishes the same thing. I also want as little to do as possible with the special VO cursor. I'm not sure about interacting yet. It seems analogous to JFW placing web pages into a buffer and activating the virtual cursor by default, except that you don't have to issue a four key combination (control+option+shift+downArrow) or a two finger flick via the trackpad commander to make this happen. Same deal with text. I have a lot to learn but the voiceOver manual describes having to interact with text and use five finger key strokes (slight exaggeration) to read anything, and I miss having the same keys available to everyone else such as arrow keys without quicknav or locking VO mode which essentially changes the keyboard to navigate around. So many have switched from XP so I know there's a better way. Anyway Sarah recently posted a site listing many standard system keyboard commands. Its apparently not complete because control+f2 is not listed, but you may want to check URL: http://www.danrodney.com/mac/ Also everyone recommends these instructional podcasts created by vision Australia, but the few I listened to didn't have any information that is not already documented in the voiceOver getting started manual. I too will be following this thread closely,, but I know I need to just start leaving my XP machines off and do as much as I can on the Mac in order to learn how to make navigation feel less cumbersome than it seems right now. Take care. Geoff - Original Message - From: Scott Granados To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 1:23 PM Subject: Intro and nooby questions Morning all, Some of you probably know me from other lists and I've joined this one being an owner of a new Macbook Pro. I have been a JFW user for going on 14 years now but have never used a Mac until 2 days ago. I'm wondering if folks can give me a good starting point for orienting myself to this new way of doing things. Are there some good pointers for familiarizing yourself with Voice Over in addition to the included tutorial? Any getting started pointers would be appreciated or tips / tricks to help the transition from the windows JFW world to Mac. Any help would be greatly appreciated. My professional area of expertese is Network Engineering and I have about 20 years of experience in topics ranging from traffic engineering for large carrier networks, the finer points of running highly available large scale content provider environments and can pretty much offer tips on technologies ranging from your home wireless router on up to the latest Juniper M series or Cisco carrier class products so if there's any networking / connectivity questions I wouldn't mind adding my $.02. Thanks in advance for any pointers and I'll try to keep the rooky questions to a minimum and will use google first before asking the obvious. Thanks all and take care Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Intro and nooby questions
Hi, check this out. I learn something new every time I read it. http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1343 Best, Erik Burggraaf Check out my first ever podcast tutorial, Learn braille using the braille box. Visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com and click podcasts to read more and subscribe. On 2010-08-25, at 2:08 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: Hello Scott, I too am trying to make friends with a new MacBookPro and probably need to pretend that my XP machine is not here when I'm using email or the web. I found the voiceOver documentation lacking in that instead of describing the regular system commands for performing functions, they document commands that are identical, yet unique to voiceOver which involve more key strokes. One example is VO+m to activate the menu which takes three fingers on two hands while control+f2 accomplishes the same thing. I also want as little to do as possible with the special VO cursor. I'm not sure about interacting yet. It seems analogous to JFW placing web pages into a buffer and activating the virtual cursor by default, except that you don't have to issue a four key combination (control+option+shift+downArrow) or a two finger flick via the trackpad commander to make this happen. Same deal with text. I have a lot to learn but the voiceOver manual describes having to interact with text and use five finger key strokes (slight exaggeration) to read anything, and I miss having the same keys available to everyone else such as arrow keys without quicknav or locking VO mode which essentially changes the keyboard to navigate around. So many have switched from XP so I know there's a better way. Anyway Sarah recently posted a site listing many standard system keyboard commands. Its apparently not complete because control+f2 is not listed, but you may want to check URL: http://www.danrodney.com/mac/ Also everyone recommends these instructional podcasts created by vision Australia, but the few I listened to didn't have any information that is not already documented in the voiceOver getting started manual. I too will be following this thread closely,, but I know I need to just start leaving my XP machines off and do as much as I can on the Mac in order to learn how to make navigation feel less cumbersome than it seems right now. Take care. Geoff - Original Message - From: Scott Granados To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 1:23 PM Subject: Intro and nooby questions Morning all, Some of you probably know me from other lists and I've joined this one being an owner of a new Macbook Pro. I have been a JFW user for going on 14 years now but have never used a Mac until 2 days ago. I'm wondering if folks can give me a good starting point for orienting myself to this new way of doing things. Are there some good pointers for familiarizing yourself with Voice Over in addition to the included tutorial? Any getting started pointers would be appreciated or tips / tricks to help the transition from the windows JFW world to Mac. Any help would be greatly appreciated. My professional area of expertese is Network Engineering and I have about 20 years of experience in topics ranging from traffic engineering for large carrier networks, the finer points of running highly available large scale content provider environments and can pretty much offer tips on technologies ranging from your home wireless router on up to the latest Juniper M series or Cisco carrier class products so if there's any networking / connectivity questions I wouldn't mind adding my $.02. Thanks in advance for any pointers and I'll try to keep the rooky questions to a minimum and will use google first before asking the obvious. Thanks all and take care Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Intro and nooby questions
Welcome Scott, great th see you on here. I suppose you know how to interact with tables? Also you will see a command key on the left of the space bar. So for instance, if you want to copy any bit of text, you can hold the command key, high light the text with shift command (let's say if you are in an e-mail, then press command C to copy, command X to cut or command V to paste. I'm not sure what you can do with your Mac Book Pro. If you have the Iphone, then you may be familiar with the track commander gestures but I've not familiar with them yet. If I can assist you further, then I will do so although I've only been using the Mac Book since May. You can also use Windows virtually too which I do to connect my windows mobile but that is quite advanced. Kawal. On 25 Aug 2010, at 18:23, Scott Granados wrote: Morning all, Some of you probably know me from other lists and I've joined this one being an owner of a new Macbook Pro. I have been a JFW user for going on 14 years now but have never used a Mac until 2 days ago. I'm wondering if folks can give me a good starting point for orienting myself to this new way of doing things. Are there some good pointers for familiarizing yourself with Voice Over in addition to the included tutorial? Any getting started pointers would be appreciated or tips / tricks to help the transition from the windows JFW world to Mac. Any help would be greatly appreciated. My professional area of expertese is Network Engineering and I have about 20 years of experience in topics ranging from traffic engineering for large carrier networks, the finer points of running highly available large scale content provider environments and can pretty much offer tips on technologies ranging from your home wireless router on up to the latest Juniper M series or Cisco carrier class products so if there's any networking / connectivity questions I wouldn't mind adding my $.02. Thanks in advance for any pointers and I'll try to keep the rooky questions to a minimum and will use google first before asking the obvious. Thanks all and take care Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 +447576240421 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Intro and nooby questions
Hi Scott: First of all. Keep in mind that Jaws isn't like Voice over, and Snow Leopard isn't like Windows. In orther words, they'll behave differently, so take all your preconceived expectations, and shelve them. You will be able to learn what is necessary without expectations. Second, go to www.blindcooltech.com, and download all podcasts by Mike Arrigo. There are 13 of them, and they are wonderful. Then go to www.myfirstmac.com and read the very helpful articles. Regards, Sarai Bucciarelli Personal Come join me on www.swagbucks.com/refer/sdbuccia On Aug 25, 2010, at 12:55 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Welcome aboard, Scott. this is a great list, I think you'll find it very helpful. Take care, Donna On Aug 25, 2010, at 1:23 PM, Scott Granados wrote: Morning all, Some of you probably know me from other lists and I've joined this one being an owner of a new Macbook Pro. I have been a JFW user for going on 14 years now but have never used a Mac until 2 days ago. I'm wondering if folks can give me a good starting point for orienting myself to this new way of doing things. Are there some good pointers for familiarizing yourself with Voice Over in addition to the included tutorial? Any getting started pointers would be appreciated or tips / tricks to help the transition from the windows JFW world to Mac. Any help would be greatly appreciated. My professional area of expertese is Network Engineering and I have about 20 years of experience in topics ranging from traffic engineering for large carrier networks, the finer points of running highly available large scale content provider environments and can pretty much offer tips on technologies ranging from your home wireless router on up to the latest Juniper M series or Cisco carrier class products so if there's any networking / connectivity questions I wouldn't mind adding my $.02. Thanks in advance for any pointers and I'll try to keep the rooky questions to a minimum and will use google first before asking the obvious. Thanks all and take care Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Intro and nooby questions
Scott, congrats on the new MBP. Good to see you here from the MSP list. I got my MBP back in December and really do love it. At first, patience will be your best bet. From what I know of you from other lists, you will have no trouble at all.Have you made the jump to iPhone yet, or just the MBP? I still have my HTC Touch Pro and am waiting for Sprint to get the iPhone. When that happens, I'm there. Unless something astounding happens with Android's accessibility between now and then, where Android leaves the iPhone in the dust. I still have serious phone confusion, so I'm sticking with what I have for the time being. On Aug 25, 2010, at 1:23 PM, Scott Granados wrote: Morning all, Some of you probably know me from other lists and I've joined this one being an owner of a new Macbook Pro. I have been a JFW user for going on 14 years now but have never used a Mac until 2 days ago. I'm wondering if folks can give me a good starting point for orienting myself to this new way of doing things. Are there some good pointers for familiarizing yourself with Voice Over in addition to the included tutorial? Any getting started pointers would be appreciated or tips / tricks to help the transition from the windows JFW world to Mac. Any help would be greatly appreciated. My professional area of expertese is Network Engineering and I have about 20 years of experience in topics ranging from traffic engineering for large carrier networks, the finer points of running highly available large scale content provider environments and can pretty much offer tips on technologies ranging from your home wireless router on up to the latest Juniper M series or Cisco carrier class products so if there's any networking / connectivity questions I wouldn't mind adding my $.02. Thanks in advance for any pointers and I'll try to keep the rooky questions to a minimum and will use google first before asking the obvious. Thanks all and take care Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Test Intro
This is a test to see if my message will connect to the smtp server and post to the list. If so, WHEW! I didn't know I had to go through so many hoops to use gmail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Test Intro
yes, it went through. gmail can be tricky but pop is best to use took me a little to figure it out On Jul 1, 2010, at 8:45 PM, Gary wrote: This is a test to see if my message will connect to the smtp server and post to the list. If so, WHEW! I didn't know I had to go through so many hoops to use gmail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Test Intro
Thanks for the reply Cody. I received it with my apple mail program, but I'm still having trouble with this list. Can anyone tell me why I didn't receive the post I sent, in my apple mail. I received the posts before and after my post, but not mine. I can see that it posted to the list. Thanks, Gary On Jul 1, 2010, at 8:24 PM, Cody Hurst wrote: yes, it went through. gmail can be tricky but pop is best to use took me a little to figure it out On Jul 1, 2010, at 8:45 PM, Gary wrote: This is a test to see if my message will connect to the smtp server and post to the list. If so, WHEW! I didn't know I had to go through so many hoops to use gmail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Test Intro
I guess that is the feature on the list, no one receives their own message, I don't either and at first it left me wondering but it does work. On Jul 1, 2010, at 9:33 PM, Gary wrote: Thanks for the reply Cody. I received it with my apple mail program, but I'm still having trouble with this list. Can anyone tell me why I didn't receive the post I sent, in my apple mail. I received the posts before and after my post, but not mine. I can see that it posted to the list. Thanks, Gary On Jul 1, 2010, at 8:24 PM, Cody Hurst wrote: yes, it went through. gmail can be tricky but pop is best to use took me a little to figure it out On Jul 1, 2010, at 8:45 PM, Gary wrote: This is a test to see if my message will connect to the smtp server and post to the list. If so, WHEW! I didn't know I had to go through so many hoops to use gmail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Test Intro
Thanks Cody, appreciate it. On Jul 1, 2010, at 8:35 PM, Cody Hurst wrote: I guess that is the feature on the list, no one receives their own message, I don't either and at first it left me wondering but it does work. On Jul 1, 2010, at 9:33 PM, Gary wrote: Thanks for the reply Cody. I received it with my apple mail program, but I'm still having trouble with this list. Can anyone tell me why I didn't receive the post I sent, in my apple mail. I received the posts before and after my post, but not mine. I can see that it posted to the list. Thanks, Gary On Jul 1, 2010, at 8:24 PM, Cody Hurst wrote: yes, it went through. gmail can be tricky but pop is best to use took me a little to figure it out On Jul 1, 2010, at 8:45 PM, Gary wrote: This is a test to see if my message will connect to the smtp server and post to the list. If so, WHEW! I didn't know I had to go through so many hoops to use gmail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Test Intro
Hi Gary, Your message did come through. Good to have you. You'll love this list, everyone is very helpful and informative. I'm Allison by the way. I'm new to the Mac, I just purchased mine in April. I love it. Welcome to the list, and have fun! Allison On Jul 1, 2010, at 8:45 PM, Gary wrote: This is a test to see if my message will connect to the smtp server and post to the list. If so, WHEW! I didn't know I had to go through so many hoops to use gmail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: intro and question
That's a lot but monitors can be very expencive as well. On May 25, 2010, at 12:00 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: This problem was covered earlier this month. Short version is that without a monitor the Mini forever scans for one, bringing the system to a crawl and causing other bad behavior. One trick was to hook up a TV adapter to make the mini think there was a monitor hooked up, but that stopped working in more recent models as support for analog displays was dropped from the DVI connection. The next trick was to get a mini to VGA adaptor and then a VGA to NTSC or PAL (TV) adaptor. That makes it think there is a monitor hooked up when really it's just a converter box. I provided links and prices in my previous post: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/msg21162.html but it was roughly $50-60 for the whole rig. CB Chris Snyder wrote: Hi Sarah, I have a monitor at home for it, but I'd like to take it with me when I travel, and lugging around a monitor isn't really practical. There must be a way to make it think it has one attached. Friendly, Chris On May 24, 2010, at 7:11 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: I would just buy a monoter and not keep it turned on. After all you might need sighted heop every once in a while. S On May 24, 2010, at 6:58 PM, Chris Snyder wrote: Hi Allie, nice to meet you as well. Yeah, I actually went for the mac mini because it was even smaller than a laptop even with a bluetooth keyboard. Now, if I can't find a workaround for this monitor thing, I may have to buy a macbook as well. I'd rather not shell out another $800 or whatever for it though, so I've been looking on Craigslist to find someone who has a slightly outdated one. There's a guy who wants to sell his for $650. It's two years old and has a 2.4GHZ processor, 2GB ram and 160GB hard drive. It's a Macbook White, not a pro. Do you, or does anyone here have thoughts about that price for such a machine? Or does anyone know where I could do better? Friendly, Chris On May 24, 2010, at 6:38 PM, Allison Manzino wrote: Hi Chris, Hmm, I'm not sure about the monitor thing. I was going to get a Mac Mini, but decided on the Macbook at the last moment. Not the pro, just the regular old Macbook. I'm pleased to meet you. I'm Allison by the way. The Braille display has been an issue for me, only because I use an older BrailleNote running an outdated version of Keysoft which I can't seem to figure out how to upgrade. Lucky for you, you don't have that headache. Well, I look forward to many posts from you on this list. I'm new here as well, only having joined a week ago. Welcome to the list! Musically, Allie On May 24, 2010, at 6:12 PM, Chris Snyder wrote: Hi fellow mac users, My name is Chris Snyder. I'm writing you from Phoenix Arizona. I'm totally blind, and use Voiceover with no braille display. I own a Mac Mini and a 32GB iPod Touch, and I've had them for about six months. The Mac Mini is running Snow Leopard, has a 2.26 GHZ intel core Duo processor, 2GB of ram and 160GB hard drive. My first question is this. When I don't connect the Mini to a monitor, it has all sorts of issues with finder, mail and safari. Those issues magically go away when I connect it to a monitor. I'd like to take the mini with me when I travel, but I really don't feel like having to find a monitor everywhere I go. Is there a way of tricking it into thinking it has a monitor attached so I don't have to find one or lug one along? Friendly, Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this
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Hi fellow mac users, My name is Chris Snyder. I'm writing you from Phoenix Arizona. I'm totally blind, and use Voiceover with no braille display. I own a Mac Mini and a 32GB iPod Touch, and I've had them for about six months. The Mac Mini is running Snow Leopard, has a 2.26 GHZ intel core Duo processor, 2GB of ram and 160GB hard drive. My first question is this. When I don't connect the Mini to a monitor, it has all sorts of issues with finder, mail and safari. Those issues magically go away when I connect it to a monitor. I'd like to take the mini with me when I travel, but I really don't feel like having to find a monitor everywhere I go. Is there a way of tricking it into thinking it has a monitor attached so I don't have to find one or lug one along? Friendly, Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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Hi Chris, Hmm, I'm not sure about the monitor thing. I was going to get a Mac Mini, but decided on the Macbook at the last moment. Not the pro, just the regular old Macbook. I'm pleased to meet you. I'm Allison by the way. The Braille display has been an issue for me, only because I use an older BrailleNote running an outdated version of Keysoft which I can't seem to figure out how to upgrade. Lucky for you, you don't have that headache. Well, I look forward to many posts from you on this list. I'm new here as well, only having joined a week ago. Welcome to the list! Musically, Allie On May 24, 2010, at 6:12 PM, Chris Snyder wrote: Hi fellow mac users, My name is Chris Snyder. I'm writing you from Phoenix Arizona. I'm totally blind, and use Voiceover with no braille display. I own a Mac Mini and a 32GB iPod Touch, and I've had them for about six months. The Mac Mini is running Snow Leopard, has a 2.26 GHZ intel core Duo processor, 2GB of ram and 160GB hard drive. My first question is this. When I don't connect the Mini to a monitor, it has all sorts of issues with finder, mail and safari. Those issues magically go away when I connect it to a monitor. I'd like to take the mini with me when I travel, but I really don't feel like having to find a monitor everywhere I go. Is there a way of tricking it into thinking it has a monitor attached so I don't have to find one or lug one along? Friendly, Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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Hi Allie, nice to meet you as well. Yeah, I actually went for the mac mini because it was even smaller than a laptop even with a bluetooth keyboard. Now, if I can't find a workaround for this monitor thing, I may have to buy a macbook as well. I'd rather not shell out another $800 or whatever for it though, so I've been looking on Craigslist to find someone who has a slightly outdated one. There's a guy who wants to sell his for $650. It's two years old and has a 2.4GHZ processor, 2GB ram and 160GB hard drive. It's a Macbook White, not a pro. Do you, or does anyone here have thoughts about that price for such a machine? Or does anyone know where I could do better? Friendly, Chris On May 24, 2010, at 6:38 PM, Allison Manzino wrote: Hi Chris, Hmm, I'm not sure about the monitor thing. I was going to get a Mac Mini, but decided on the Macbook at the last moment. Not the pro, just the regular old Macbook. I'm pleased to meet you. I'm Allison by the way. The Braille display has been an issue for me, only because I use an older BrailleNote running an outdated version of Keysoft which I can't seem to figure out how to upgrade. Lucky for you, you don't have that headache. Well, I look forward to many posts from you on this list. I'm new here as well, only having joined a week ago. Welcome to the list! Musically, Allie On May 24, 2010, at 6:12 PM, Chris Snyder wrote: Hi fellow mac users, My name is Chris Snyder. I'm writing you from Phoenix Arizona. I'm totally blind, and use Voiceover with no braille display. I own a Mac Mini and a 32GB iPod Touch, and I've had them for about six months. The Mac Mini is running Snow Leopard, has a 2.26 GHZ intel core Duo processor, 2GB of ram and 160GB hard drive. My first question is this. When I don't connect the Mini to a monitor, it has all sorts of issues with finder, mail and safari. Those issues magically go away when I connect it to a monitor. I'd like to take the mini with me when I travel, but I really don't feel like having to find a monitor everywhere I go. Is there a way of tricking it into thinking it has a monitor attached so I don't have to find one or lug one along? Friendly, Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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I would just buy a monoter and not keep it turned on. After all you might need sighted heop every once in a while. S On May 24, 2010, at 6:58 PM, Chris Snyder wrote: Hi Allie, nice to meet you as well. Yeah, I actually went for the mac mini because it was even smaller than a laptop even with a bluetooth keyboard. Now, if I can't find a workaround for this monitor thing, I may have to buy a macbook as well. I'd rather not shell out another $800 or whatever for it though, so I've been looking on Craigslist to find someone who has a slightly outdated one. There's a guy who wants to sell his for $650. It's two years old and has a 2.4GHZ processor, 2GB ram and 160GB hard drive. It's a Macbook White, not a pro. Do you, or does anyone here have thoughts about that price for such a machine? Or does anyone know where I could do better? Friendly, Chris On May 24, 2010, at 6:38 PM, Allison Manzino wrote: Hi Chris, Hmm, I'm not sure about the monitor thing. I was going to get a Mac Mini, but decided on the Macbook at the last moment. Not the pro, just the regular old Macbook. I'm pleased to meet you. I'm Allison by the way. The Braille display has been an issue for me, only because I use an older BrailleNote running an outdated version of Keysoft which I can't seem to figure out how to upgrade. Lucky for you, you don't have that headache. Well, I look forward to many posts from you on this list. I'm new here as well, only having joined a week ago. Welcome to the list! Musically, Allie On May 24, 2010, at 6:12 PM, Chris Snyder wrote: Hi fellow mac users, My name is Chris Snyder. I'm writing you from Phoenix Arizona. I'm totally blind, and use Voiceover with no braille display. I own a Mac Mini and a 32GB iPod Touch, and I've had them for about six months. The Mac Mini is running Snow Leopard, has a 2.26 GHZ intel core Duo processor, 2GB of ram and 160GB hard drive. My first question is this. When I don't connect the Mini to a monitor, it has all sorts of issues with finder, mail and safari. Those issues magically go away when I connect it to a monitor. I'd like to take the mini with me when I travel, but I really don't feel like having to find a monitor everywhere I go. Is there a way of tricking it into thinking it has a monitor attached so I don't have to find one or lug one along? Friendly, Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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Hi Sarah, I have a monitor at home for it, but I'd like to take it with me when I travel, and lugging around a monitor isn't really practical. There must be a way to make it think it has one attached. Friendly, Chris On May 24, 2010, at 7:11 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: I would just buy a monoter and not keep it turned on. After all you might need sighted heop every once in a while. S On May 24, 2010, at 6:58 PM, Chris Snyder wrote: Hi Allie, nice to meet you as well. Yeah, I actually went for the mac mini because it was even smaller than a laptop even with a bluetooth keyboard. Now, if I can't find a workaround for this monitor thing, I may have to buy a macbook as well. I'd rather not shell out another $800 or whatever for it though, so I've been looking on Craigslist to find someone who has a slightly outdated one. There's a guy who wants to sell his for $650. It's two years old and has a 2.4GHZ processor, 2GB ram and 160GB hard drive. It's a Macbook White, not a pro. Do you, or does anyone here have thoughts about that price for such a machine? Or does anyone know where I could do better? Friendly, Chris On May 24, 2010, at 6:38 PM, Allison Manzino wrote: Hi Chris, Hmm, I'm not sure about the monitor thing. I was going to get a Mac Mini, but decided on the Macbook at the last moment. Not the pro, just the regular old Macbook. I'm pleased to meet you. I'm Allison by the way. The Braille display has been an issue for me, only because I use an older BrailleNote running an outdated version of Keysoft which I can't seem to figure out how to upgrade. Lucky for you, you don't have that headache. Well, I look forward to many posts from you on this list. I'm new here as well, only having joined a week ago. Welcome to the list! Musically, Allie On May 24, 2010, at 6:12 PM, Chris Snyder wrote: Hi fellow mac users, My name is Chris Snyder. I'm writing you from Phoenix Arizona. I'm totally blind, and use Voiceover with no braille display. I own a Mac Mini and a 32GB iPod Touch, and I've had them for about six months. The Mac Mini is running Snow Leopard, has a 2.26 GHZ intel core Duo processor, 2GB of ram and 160GB hard drive. My first question is this. When I don't connect the Mini to a monitor, it has all sorts of issues with finder, mail and safari. Those issues magically go away when I connect it to a monitor. I'd like to take the mini with me when I travel, but I really don't feel like having to find a monitor everywhere I go. Is there a way of tricking it into thinking it has a monitor attached so I don't have to find one or lug one along? Friendly, Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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hello all my name is ian mcnamara i am 26 years old and i live in birmingham in the u k. i currently own windows seven but am thinking of getting a mac in future so thought i would join this list to learn about it. thanks very much ian mcnamara. skype heeman2730 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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Well, for what it's worth, I'll extend my welcome to you, I'm a fairly newcomer to the list as well (September '08), but have been using a Mac since getting an iBook in 2005, using zoom, then later the predecessor of VoiceOver, called spoken interface. I then started using voiceover when Tiger came out a year or so later. Now I'm rocking out with a Macbook Pro running Snow leopard (10.6.2). I love this list, I've learned so much, even though I'm a part time voiceOver user, mostly relying on Zoom, then switching to VO when my eyes get tired, as I do have some residual vision. So, since you haven't made the jump, hang out here and learn, than when you get the chance to go to an Apple Store you can play around with what you've learned. Good luck, welcome, and happy switching! :) On Mar 2, 2010, at 12:52 PM, ian mcnamara wrote: hello all my name is ian mcnamara i am 26 years old and i live in birmingham in the u k. i currently own windows seven but am thinking of getting a mac in future so thought i would join this list to learn about it. thanks very much ian mcnamara. skype heeman2730 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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welcome to the list Ian. I have been a mac user myself since sometime in January and I must say that I really love my mac too and definitely prefer it over my Windows pc. I am using my mac 90% of the time now and my next goal is to buy another mac but a mac mini this time and definitely get rid of this slow pc I've got. I am sure you will like the mac when you do get a chance to play with one, you should definitely give it a go, you won't regret it. Take care for now, Lyn Twinny On Mar 2, 2010, at 8:21 PM, Rafael Bejarano wrote: Hi Ian, Welcome to the list. I suggest that you spend a few hours interacting with a Macintosh at your nearest Apple store, in order to determine whether it offers advantages over Windows. I think you will be pleasantly surprised. I have found that Windows continues to be useful in a few cases (e.g., some websites are not accessible with Safari, and Explorer for Macintosh is not accessible with VoiceOver). For the most part, however, I much prefer the Mac over Windows. Cordially, Rafael Bejarano On Mar 2, 2010, at 12:52 PM, ian mcnamara wrote: hello all my name is ian mcnamara i am 26 years old and i live in birmingham in the u k. i currently own windows seven but am thinking of getting a mac in future so thought i would join this list to learn about it. thanks very much ian mcnamara. skype heeman2730 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. *** MSN and Email= lyn.bordeau...@gmail.com skype= keanemaniac facebook www.facebook.com/Lyn.bordeaux33 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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Hi Ian! I've been using a mac since may of 2008 and have come to really love it. I think its very easy to use and you can have the basics out of the way in just a few hours. Good luck with it. If you have skype or other chat programs you might chat with some of us on this list to ask questions. That helped me quite a bit in the beginning. Take care! Jim On Mar 2, 2010, at 12:52 PM, ian mcnamara wrote: hello all my name is ian mcnamara i am 26 years old and i live in birmingham in the u k. i currently own windows seven but am thinking of getting a mac in future so thought i would join this list to learn about it. thanks very much ian mcnamara. skype heeman2730 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. - Find me on facebook or: Skype: jimintexas Yahoo or Aim/Ichat: jgatteys Msn: jgatt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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Hi Carolyn I'm not sure how helpful this will be for you, but if you have iTunes or VLC open, and you press F8 (or maybe F8 with the function key, depending on how you have your MacBook set up), iTunes will start playing whatever media you were last working with. I assume this works with other media players, as well. Pressing F8 again stops the playback. It might be something to try, if the other suggestions don't work for you. On Jan 22, 12:20 am, Carolyn ch...@q.com wrote: Hi mac family: I'm a proud owner of a MacBook Pro, and a pc-convert wanna-be. (although as I write, I'm cheating). I live in Denver Co with my daughter, age 12, and my husband. I'll try not to ask too many silly questions. In any case, I have a silly question: I'm hearing impaired, so don't really hear my mac when it's on. With my pc, there is a little noise, but also, I can use the disk-door to see if the power's on. With the Mac slot loader, there's no way for me to know. Any ideas? TIA Carolyn Haas CH:) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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well, one thing you could do is put a cd in the drive. may not be the best way but if your mac is on, the cd will go in otherwise it won't. to eject a cd, hit the key to the wright of the f12 key and hold that down untill the cd comes out. On Jan 21, 2010, at 7:20 PM, Carolyn wrote: Hi mac family: I'm a proud owner of a MacBook Pro, and a pc-convert wanna-be. (although as I write, I'm cheating). I live in Denver Co with my daughter, age 12, and my husband. I'll try not to ask too many silly questions. In any case, I have a silly question: I'm hearing impaired, so don't really hear my mac when it's on. With my pc, there is a little noise, but also, I can use the disk-door to see if the power's on. With the Mac slot loader, there's no way for me to know. Any ideas? TIA Carolyn Haas CH:) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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Hi Laura: thanks for the idea. All of you have been very helpful. Carolyn On Jan 22, 2010, at 6:17 AM, Laura M wrote: Hi Carolyn I'm not sure how helpful this will be for you, but if you have iTunes or VLC open, and you press F8 (or maybe F8 with the function key, depending on how you have your MacBook set up), iTunes will start playing whatever media you were last working with. I assume this works with other media players, as well. Pressing F8 again stops the playback. It might be something to try, if the other suggestions don't work for you. On Jan 22, 12:20 am, Carolyn ch...@q.com wrote: Hi mac family: I'm a proud owner of a MacBook Pro, and a pc-convert wanna-be. (although as I write, I'm cheating). I live in Denver Co with my daughter, age 12, and my husband. I'll try not to ask too many silly questions. In any case, I have a silly question: I'm hearing impaired, so don't really hear my mac when it's on. With my pc, there is a little noise, but also, I can use the disk-door to see if the power's on. With the Mac slot loader, there's no way for me to know. Any ideas? TIA Carolyn Haas CH:) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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Hi mac family: I'm a proud owner of a MacBook Pro, and a pc-convert wanna-be. (although as I write, I'm cheating). I live in Denver Co with my daughter, age 12, and my husband. I'll try not to ask too many silly questions. In any case, I have a silly question: I'm hearing impaired, so don't really hear my mac when it's on. With my pc, there is a little noise, but also, I can use the disk-door to see if the power's on. With the Mac slot loader, there's no way for me to know. Any ideas? TIA Carolyn Haas CH:) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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hi, i know i have blonde hair but usually it is not so obvious. I am in doubt... it is when the computer is on you are in doubt? else i am really confused. Selution. we hack the speech so it makes a loud sound when you hit a special key. sandi On Jan 21, 2010, at 4:20 PM, Carolyn wrote: Hi mac family: I'm a proud owner of a MacBook Pro, and a pc-convert wanna-be. (although as I write, I'm cheating). I live in Denver Co with my daughter, age 12, and my husband. I'll try not to ask too many silly questions. In any case, I have a silly question: I'm hearing impaired, so don't really hear my mac when it's on. With my pc, there is a little noise, but also, I can use the disk-door to see if the power's on. With the Mac slot loader, there's no way for me to know. Any ideas? TIA Carolyn Haas CH:) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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Hi. Do you use hearing aids with telecoils, by any chance? If so, turn the telecoils on and put your ear near your Mac. You should hear the unit working fairly loudly if it is on, and little or nothing if it is off. HTH. Aman On 1/21/10, Carolyn ch...@q.com wrote: Hi mac family: I'm a proud owner of a MacBook Pro, and a pc-convert wanna-be. (although as I write, I'm cheating). I live in Denver Co with my daughter, age 12, and my husband. I'll try not to ask too many silly questions. In any case, I have a silly question: I'm hearing impaired, so don't really hear my mac when it's on. With my pc, there is a little noise, but also, I can use the disk-door to see if the power's on. With the Mac slot loader, there's no way for me to know. Any ideas? TIA Carolyn Haas CH:) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
