Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App
Hi Doug, I'm using the Mophie Juice Pack and KNFB Reader works fine with it. I don't think this is related to the Pack at all, but I have noticed one performance difference based on the podcast I heard. I am using a 5S with IOS7, latest version. There is a two or three second delay when I double tap on the field of view report or when I take a picture to when the shutter sound is heard. The gentleman who did the podcast demonstrated the KNFB reader and the shutter sound appeared to occur immediately. I thought that would be related to his using the iPhone 6, but I believe he did the podcast on Thursday, prior to the release of the newer phones. I believe he was running IOS8, and perhaps that accounts for the speed increase? Just a guess. Les On Sep 22, 2014, at 1:27 AM, Doug Lawlor doug.law...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, I'm just wondering if anyone has tried using the KNFB reader with a battery something like the mophy juice pack attached? Is there a difference in using it? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 21, 2014, at 8:55 PM, Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: In 1990 Vocational Rehab and an associated State organization for unemployment purchased the Kurzweil personal reader for me. That purchase and the technology opened a door to employment for me. Since that experience, I would recommend anything developed by Kurzweil. It worked then and it works now. Kevin Sent from my iPhone On Sep 21, 2014, at 9:21 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi Krister, I'm not a developer, so make no evaluation whatsoever of how much work they had to do to add the tilt guidance, field of view, and the anti-skewing stuff. I still think the price was too high, but as Kevin wrote on Friday, it just works. I know some people put a lot of time into learning to use Prizmo, and I understand that they got good results. I barely have enough time to breathe each day. I get up in the morning and am busy till I go to bed at night. I don't have that kind of time to spend practicing to use an app. So yes, I do think the price is high, but I also know that it meets my needs without requiring a ton of practice time. So I bought it, and I recommend it to others. As to your question what if someone else built those same features into a mainstream app, I think that'd be fabulous. But right now that hasn't happened, so I'm going with the KNFB reader. Cheers, Donna On Sep 21, 2014, at 3:58 AM, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote: Well, Prizmo has some kind of guidance similar to the KNFB reader but it seems to be unreliable at times and i don't think it has the tilt sensor. What if that was built in? And another question on the same topic: The way we all, me included skeptical as i am, rave about the KNFB reader, how much do we really know about what the folks have done to make it this good? What if it was only the tilt sensor and the field view report and the rest was an ordinary OCR app? We make it sound like this app is the worlds 8th miracle, what if it ain't? What if some mainstream developer added at leas the guidance that Prizmo already has and a tilt sensor and it became just as good? Sorry for sounding skeptical, i'm just wondering about things. /Krister 20 sep 2014 kl. 18:41 skrev Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com: Well, I can certainly agree that assistive isn't always equal to overpriced, and indeed I have owned the flatbed and now own the camera edition Sara, both of which have worked quite well, and with mainstream OCR software and flatbed scanners, really quite excellently. Anything to lower the cost of investment is always useful though. I am hoping to standardise on something that is accurate and realistically caters to my needs, and this app looks very promising going forward. However I do worry that the cost would not be justified if I found another app. I have had all the mentioned apps so far--TextDetective, TextGrabber, and Prizmo--and have not even been able to choose among these three yet, though Prizmo is now the one on my phone. Can anyone suggest ways in which any of these three apps might somehow be improved to match the speed and accuracy of KNFB as it now stands? A difficult question, I know, but I'm hoping someone knows something I don't. This is mostly an exercise in discovery, of course, since I now own all four of them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to
Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App
Hi, What they have done is that they have put the tilt guidance and the field view report in the app so that we are supposed to better align our cameras with the document and maybe they have done something with skewing and page correction so that the app is more forgiving than the others that's out there. Abbyy Text grabber is about just as fast when it comes to presenting the results of a scan but it's very unforgiving when it comes to how you hold the camera and so on. /Krister 20 sep 2014 kl. 17:47 skrev Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com: All right. Yes, it's all very wonderful The question is: why? Why have all the other apps failed? What's the magic sauce? You know me--well, you do now, anyway--that I'm not going to be happy unless I've established that £69 was worth paying. I'm still not quite convinced that it is, yet. £69 is a lot of money for an iOS app, and my first thought while reading the description was, Yeah, highly anticipated and bloody expensive! Anybody have answers, or even hypotheses? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App
How do you folks do to take a picture of a vertical object for scanning? I assume you can't use the tilt guidance very successfully and how will the field view report work? As i understand it you shouldn't be supposed to be able to take pictures of other things than those that lye on a desk top, am i wrong in this? I tried to read the manual for the Knfb reader and the app read happily the swedish manual with the Samantha voice, a little confusing i'd say. /Krister 20 sep 2014 kl. 17:04 skrev Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com: I've been using it on a variety of things and have found the app to be much more reliable in terms of getting good pictures initially, than my attempts with other OCR apps. I'd like to pride myself on being able to take fairly good pictures for OCR purposes but for some reason, I never had good luck or consistency with the other OCR apps. Last night, just for fun and to prove to my husband that the app worked, I took a picture of our television screen from about 8 feet away. It's a 42 inch TV. There was an add on for one of those legal services that sues if you have had some disease or other. The app read most of the text on screen accurately including a phone number and web address. It faltered near the end of the text but I suspect it was scrolling or stylized. It did make an attempt though. To say I was in shock is an understatement. Now I wish I'd saved the scan. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Sep 20, 2014, at 9:39 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com mailto:doniado...@me.com wrote: See my last post. Basically, the app comes with features that give you very good feedback while your positioning the camera. Best, Donna On Sep 20, 2014, at 7:44 AM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: HI! ONE THING I'D LIKE TO KNOW IS HOW WOULD ONE KNOW WHERE AND HOW TO HOLD THE CAMERA OVER a paper. Anyone? /A 19 sep 2014 kl. 16:28 skrev 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com: Apparently the app is $100. CB Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the Blind http://nfb.org/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=3838qid=615419, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has applauded the release of KNFB Reader http://nfb.org/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=3839qid=615419, a new app for the iPhone and other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB Reader is now available in the iTunes app store. http://nfb.org/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=3840qid=615419 Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance, we have been interested in the development of better and more portable reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus, labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday life, even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of us carry each day http://nfb.org/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=3841qid=615419 provides instant access to the printed word. We can hear our mail or the menu at our favorite restaurant spoken with the iPhone's built-in text-to-speech technology, or read it in Braille with a refreshable Braille display. This app will fundamentally change the everyday lives of many blind people, helping us to get the information we need and live the lives we want. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the
Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App
Well, Prizmo has some kind of guidance similar to the KNFB reader but it seems to be unreliable at times and i don't think it has the tilt sensor. What if that was built in? And another question on the same topic: The way we all, me included skeptical as i am, rave about the KNFB reader, how much do we really know about what the folks have done to make it this good? What if it was only the tilt sensor and the field view report and the rest was an ordinary OCR app? We make it sound like this app is the worlds 8th miracle, what if it ain't? What if some mainstream developer added at leas the guidance that Prizmo already has and a tilt sensor and it became just as good? Sorry for sounding skeptical, i'm just wondering about things. /Krister 20 sep 2014 kl. 18:41 skrev Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com: Well, I can certainly agree that assistive isn't always equal to overpriced, and indeed I have owned the flatbed and now own the camera edition Sara, both of which have worked quite well, and with mainstream OCR software and flatbed scanners, really quite excellently. Anything to lower the cost of investment is always useful though. I am hoping to standardise on something that is accurate and realistically caters to my needs, and this app looks very promising going forward. However I do worry that the cost would not be justified if I found another app. I have had all the mentioned apps so far--TextDetective, TextGrabber, and Prizmo--and have not even been able to choose among these three yet, though Prizmo is now the one on my phone. Can anyone suggest ways in which any of these three apps might somehow be improved to match the speed and accuracy of KNFB as it now stands? A difficult question, I know, but I'm hoping someone knows something I don't. This is mostly an exercise in discovery, of course, since I now own all four of them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App
I’ve never found out what to turn and how, i lose edges when i turn and get muscle ache from holding my hand in strange angles.:-) No, the clock orientation thingy isn’t something i understand, but then i am a bear with a very, very, vary little brain. /Krister 21 sep 2014 kl. 00:07 skrev Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com: I’ve had the phone turned up to 18 degrees off center and it’s worked just fine so I think it really depends on the clarity of text. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Sep 20, 2014, at 5:09 PM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: Hi! So you have to have the phone or paper in the right clock direction. It can't turn the page virtually in the app. /A 20 sep 2014 kl. 23:03 skrev Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com: GiGi, that’s the beauty of the tilt function. I’m usually fairly good at balancing the phone but if I do more than one scan of something in the same spot, such as just moving another piece of mail under it, I tend to tip the phone. The thing that confuses me at times is the clock face orientation. I have to tell myself that it is reporting the position of the material under the phone and that I should turn the phone in that direction until it says 0. For some weird reason my brain conjured that this was the orientation of the phone itself when looking at the image and that I must turn the phone in the opposite direction to reorient. Where that came from I have no idea. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Sep 20, 2014, at 4:59 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com mailto:gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there Well lazy me did something else. I put my Mac on my lap and shut it, and then sorted my Mail sitting in my recliner. I wasn't sure that was going to work but it did work quite fine. I am finding the level indicator to be a lot more helpful than the review function. Maybe it's just me since I just got it today, but by the time I tell it to scan again I have to be very careful not to change my position. Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2014, at 9:23 AM, Rob Bender rbende...@gmail.com mailto:rbende...@gmail.com wrote: I also bought the app after hearing the Applevis podcast and reading about the results from others on the list. I had the opportunity to borrow a Nokia phone with the old KNFB app 4 or 5 years ago and was only ever able to get a few words from a page. I was able to sit at the kitchen table and sort the mail just after buying the new app. It is definitely better than the old app since the field of view report and the tilt notification are a great help in lining up the camera. I will add that I had not been able to get good results with the other OCR apps for the iPhone since I was horrible at lining up the camera. It really seems that they did a great job on writing an app which compensates for blind users. I plan to try more documents today. On Sep 20, 2014, at 6:00 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com mailto:gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Pete You may have answered this already, but I once tried the KNFB reader that a friend had on his Windows phone. I couldn't get the thing to line up and I got the worst text you ever saw. Obviously, you got it to line up with the restaurant menu, and I'm really impressed about that. I have heard there is an option on this new program to find the line up. How sloppy can you be to line up the text and have the text come out good? I hope my question makes sense. I know a lot of people got the old one to work, but I was hopeless with it. So, did you ever use the old one, and is it, in your opinion, better than it was? Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2014, at 1:58 AM, peter Apgar pap...@gmavt.net mailto:pap...@gmavt.net wrote: Best app I've ever purchased! I to believe that this works better then desktop scanning programs. First day with it was today. First try at a restaurant scored the entire menu perfectly Pete Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 3:41 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Frankly, I could not agree more!!! My flat bed scanning days are through: or just about anyhow. I never got such good results with the other OCR apps. Not even with Abby Fine Reader Text Grabber, which is kinda sorta okay. The KNFB reader is where it's at if you want it to be both fast and accurate. Yes, it does help you angle the camra just right. I didn't realize, until I started using the KNFB reader app that I was always angling the camra lens much too far upward. Sincerely, the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in and
Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App
Hi Krister, I'm not a developer, so make no evaluation whatsoever of how much work they had to do to add the tilt guidance, field of view, and the anti-skewing stuff. I still think the price was too high, but as Kevin wrote on Friday, it just works. I know some people put a lot of time into learning to use Prizmo, and I understand that they got good results. I barely have enough time to breathe each day. I get up in the morning and am busy till I go to bed at night. I don't have that kind of time to spend practicing to use an app. So yes, I do think the price is high, but I also know that it meets my needs without requiring a ton of practice time. So I bought it, and I recommend it to others. As to your question what if someone else built those same features into a mainstream app, I think that'd be fabulous. But right now that hasn't happened, so I'm going with the KNFB reader. Cheers, Donna On Sep 21, 2014, at 3:58 AM, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote: Well, Prizmo has some kind of guidance similar to the KNFB reader but it seems to be unreliable at times and i don't think it has the tilt sensor. What if that was built in? And another question on the same topic: The way we all, me included skeptical as i am, rave about the KNFB reader, how much do we really know about what the folks have done to make it this good? What if it was only the tilt sensor and the field view report and the rest was an ordinary OCR app? We make it sound like this app is the worlds 8th miracle, what if it ain't? What if some mainstream developer added at leas the guidance that Prizmo already has and a tilt sensor and it became just as good? Sorry for sounding skeptical, i'm just wondering about things. /Krister 20 sep 2014 kl. 18:41 skrev Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com: Well, I can certainly agree that assistive isn't always equal to overpriced, and indeed I have owned the flatbed and now own the camera edition Sara, both of which have worked quite well, and with mainstream OCR software and flatbed scanners, really quite excellently. Anything to lower the cost of investment is always useful though. I am hoping to standardise on something that is accurate and realistically caters to my needs, and this app looks very promising going forward. However I do worry that the cost would not be justified if I found another app. I have had all the mentioned apps so far--TextDetective, TextGrabber, and Prizmo--and have not even been able to choose among these three yet, though Prizmo is now the one on my phone. Can anyone suggest ways in which any of these three apps might somehow be improved to match the speed and accuracy of KNFB as it now stands? A difficult question, I know, but I'm hoping someone knows something I don't. This is mostly an exercise in discovery, of course, since I now own all four of them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App
Hi Krister, If you hold the phone 8-10 inches (20-25 CM) above the document, making sure the camera is centered above it, then you should get fairly accurate results. This is where the field of view report, and the tilt guidance come in extremely handy! You don't need to turn your arm at awkward angles, if anything, you may need to raise, or lower the phone, move it backwards, or forwards, but nothing unnatural. Also, Make sure the phone has the same orientation as the document (portrait or landscape), and let the built-in guidance features help you orient the last bit if needed. HTH, Rachel. On 9/21/2014 2:07 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: I’ve never found out what to turn and how, i lose edges when i turn and get muscle ache from holding my hand in strange angles.:-) No, the clock orientation thingy isn’t something i understand, but then i am a bear with a very, very, vary little brain. /Krister 21 sep 2014 kl. 00:07 skrev Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com: I’ve had the phone turned up to 18 degrees off center and it’s worked just fine so I think it really depends on the clarity of text. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Sep 20, 2014, at 5:09 PM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: Hi! So you have to have the phone or paper in the right clock direction. It can't turn the page virtually in the app. /A 20 sep 2014 kl. 23:03 skrev Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com: GiGi, that’s the beauty of the tilt function. I’m usually fairly good at balancing the phone but if I do more than one scan of something in the same spot, such as just moving another piece of mail under it, I tend to tip the phone. The thing that confuses me at times is the clock face orientation. I have to tell myself that it is reporting the position of the material under the phone and that I should turn the phone in that direction until it says 0. For some weird reason my brain conjured that this was the orientation of the phone itself when looking at the image and that I must turn the phone in the opposite direction to reorient. Where that came from I have no idea. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Sep 20, 2014, at 4:59 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com mailto:gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there Well lazy me did something else. I put my Mac on my lap and shut it, and then sorted my Mail sitting in my recliner. I wasn't sure that was going to work but it did work quite fine. I am finding the level indicator to be a lot more helpful than the review function. Maybe it's just me since I just got it today, but by the time I tell it to scan again I have to be very careful not to change my position. Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2014, at 9:23 AM, Rob Bender rbende...@gmail.com mailto:rbende...@gmail.com wrote: I also bought the app after hearing the Applevis podcast and reading about the results from others on the list. I had the opportunity to borrow a Nokia phone with the old KNFB app 4 or 5 years ago and was only ever able to get a few words from a page. I was able to sit at the kitchen table and sort the mail just after buying the new app. It is definitely better than the old app since the field of view report and the tilt notification are a great help in lining up the camera. I will add that I had not been able to get good results with the other OCR apps for the iPhone since I was horrible at lining up the camera. It really seems that they did a great job on writing an app which compensates for blind users. I plan to try more documents today. On Sep 20, 2014, at 6:00 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com mailto:gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Pete You may have answered this already, but I once tried the KNFB reader that a friend had on his Windows phone. I couldn't get the thing to line up and I got the worst text you ever saw. Obviously, you got it to line up with the restaurant menu, and I'm really impressed about that. I have heard there is an option on this new program to find the line up. How sloppy can you be to line up the text and have the text come out good? I hope my question makes sense. I know a lot of people got the old one to work, but I was hopeless with it. So, did you ever use the old one, and is it, in your opinion, better than it was? Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2014, at 1:58 AM, peter Apgar pap...@gmavt.net mailto:pap...@gmavt.net wrote: Best app I've ever purchased! I to believe that this works better then desktop scanning programs. First day with it was today. First try at a restaurant scored the entire menu perfectly Pete Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 3:41 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Frankly, I could not agree more!!! My flat bed scanning days are
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No problem. Your question makes perfect sense. You do not need to be perfect to get great results! I have not used the guidance at the program offers but holding the phone elbow length away from the paper gave great results unfortunately I cannot compare it to the old app. Pete Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2014, at 6:00 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Pete You may have answered this already, but I once tried the KNFB reader that a friend had on his Windows phone. I couldn't get the thing to line up and I got the worst text you ever saw. Obviously, you got it to line up with the restaurant menu, and I'm really impressed about that. I have heard there is an option on this new program to find the line up. How sloppy can you be to line up the text and have the text come out good? I hope my question makes sense. I know a lot of people got the old one to work, but I was hopeless with it. So, did you ever use the old one, and is it, in your opinion, better than it was? Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2014, at 1:58 AM, peter Apgar pap...@gmavt.net wrote: Best app I've ever purchased! I to believe that this works better then desktop scanning programs. First day with it was today. First try at a restaurant scored the entire menu perfectly Pete Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 3:41 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Frankly, I could not agree more!!! My flat bed scanning days are through: or just about anyhow. I never got such good results with the other OCR apps. Not even with Abby Fine Reader Text Grabber, which is kinda sorta okay. The KNFB reader is where it's at if you want it to be both fast and accurate. Yes, it does help you angle the camra just right. I didn't realize, until I started using the KNFB reader app that I was always angling the camra lens much too far upward. Sincerely, the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus! On Sep 19, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote: Donna, I'm not Kevin but bought the app last night. On my first picture, I got 100 per cent accuracy of an entire credit card statement which obviously has lots of numbers and weird abbreviations. I spent about a minute lining the document up and then took one picture and it was perfect! I never had anything close to that with Prismo, Text Grabber or Text Detective. I rarely got the whole document there, whereas KNFB Reader helps you line it up if you want it to. It also does images and pdf images, so it is definitely worth it for me. I'm now sorry I wasted the money on those others, but it was all there was at the time and they served their purpose. KNFB Reader is now the only OCR app on my phone. It takes about 2 seconds from when the picture is taken to when it starts reading, and I'm using an iPhone 5 at this stage. Good luck with your decision Lisette On 20/09/2014, at 6:28 am, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Kevin, can you say more? I'm kind of on the fence about whether or not to purchase it, but so far I'm not completely happy with either textGrabber or Prizmo. I think the place where I'm going wrong with both those apps is the positioning of the camera. Does KNFB Reader make that easier? Thanks, Donna On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: It just works. I'm glad I bought it. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary gary.robl...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, I know. Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration? Gary On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com wrote: $100? Ouch. On 9/19/14, Chris G jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com wrote: Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina? Chris Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 743-8244 web: www.mysticaccess.com Accessible Gadgets mailing list: http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com Twitter: MysticAccess Twitter: JediKent On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400 Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: I just bought it. I will let you know how it works. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: Apparently the app is $100. CB Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and state-of-the-art optical
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Hi! Thanks. I think i will give it a go. /A 20 sep 2014 kl. 23:44 skrev Buddy Brannan bu...@brannan.name: This is incorrect. It can of course flip the page right side up if it’s upside down and so on, but of course it works best when you’re aligned the same way as your document. — Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: 814-860-3194 Mobile: 814-431-0962 Email: bu...@brannan.name On Sep 20, 2014, at 5:09 PM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: Hi! So you have to have the phone or paper in the right clock direction. It can't turn the page virtually in the app. /A 20 sep 2014 kl. 23:03 skrev Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com: GiGi, that’s the beauty of the tilt function. I’m usually fairly good at balancing the phone but if I do more than one scan of something in the same spot, such as just moving another piece of mail under it, I tend to tip the phone. The thing that confuses me at times is the clock face orientation. I have to tell myself that it is reporting the position of the material under the phone and that I should turn the phone in that direction until it says 0. For some weird reason my brain conjured that this was the orientation of the phone itself when looking at the image and that I must turn the phone in the opposite direction to reorient. Where that came from I have no idea. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Sep 20, 2014, at 4:59 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there Well lazy me did something else. I put my Mac on my lap and shut it, and then sorted my Mail sitting in my recliner. I wasn't sure that was going to work but it did work quite fine. I am finding the level indicator to be a lot more helpful than the review function. Maybe it's just me since I just got it today, but by the time I tell it to scan again I have to be very careful not to change my position. Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2014, at 9:23 AM, Rob Bender rbende...@gmail.com wrote: I also bought the app after hearing the Applevis podcast and reading about the results from others on the list. I had the opportunity to borrow a Nokia phone with the old KNFB app 4 or 5 years ago and was only ever able to get a few words from a page. I was able to sit at the kitchen table and sort the mail just after buying the new app. It is definitely better than the old app since the field of view report and the tilt notification are a great help in lining up the camera. I will add that I had not been able to get good results with the other OCR apps for the iPhone since I was horrible at lining up the camera. It really seems that they did a great job on writing an app which compensates for blind users. I plan to try more documents today. On Sep 20, 2014, at 6:00 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Pete You may have answered this already, but I once tried the KNFB reader that a friend had on his Windows phone. I couldn't get the thing to line up and I got the worst text you ever saw. Obviously, you got it to line up with the restaurant menu, and I'm really impressed about that. I have heard there is an option on this new program to find the line up. How sloppy can you be to line up the text and have the text come out good? I hope my question makes sense. I know a lot of people got the old one to work, but I was hopeless with it. So, did you ever use the old one, and is it, in your opinion, better than it was? Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2014, at 1:58 AM, peter Apgar pap...@gmavt.net wrote: Best app I've ever purchased! I to believe that this works better then desktop scanning programs. First day with it was today. First try at a restaurant scored the entire menu perfectly Pete Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 3:41 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Frankly, I could not agree more!!! My flat bed scanning days are through: or just about anyhow. I never got such good results with the other OCR apps. Not even with Abby Fine Reader Text Grabber, which is kinda sorta okay. The KNFB reader is where it's at if you want it to be both fast and accurate. Yes, it does help you angle the camra just right. I didn't realize, until I started using the KNFB reader app that I was always angling the camra lens much too far upward. Sincerely, the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus! On Sep 19, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote: Donna, I'm not Kevin but bought the app last night. On my first picture, I got 100 per cent accuracy of an entire credit card statement which obviously has lots of numbers and weird abbreviations. I spent about a minute lining the document up and then
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Hi! Don't worry. My body is big but my brain is quite small. /A 21 sep 2014 kl. 11:07 skrev Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com: I’ve never found out what to turn and how, i lose edges when i turn and get muscle ache from holding my hand in strange angles.:-) No, the clock orientation thingy isn’t something i understand, but then i am a bear with a very, very, vary little brain. /Krister 21 sep 2014 kl. 00:07 skrev Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com: I’ve had the phone turned up to 18 degrees off center and it’s worked just fine so I think it really depends on the clarity of text. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Sep 20, 2014, at 5:09 PM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: Hi! So you have to have the phone or paper in the right clock direction. It can't turn the page virtually in the app. /A 20 sep 2014 kl. 23:03 skrev Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com: GiGi, that’s the beauty of the tilt function. I’m usually fairly good at balancing the phone but if I do more than one scan of something in the same spot, such as just moving another piece of mail under it, I tend to tip the phone. The thing that confuses me at times is the clock face orientation. I have to tell myself that it is reporting the position of the material under the phone and that I should turn the phone in that direction until it says 0. For some weird reason my brain conjured that this was the orientation of the phone itself when looking at the image and that I must turn the phone in the opposite direction to reorient. Where that came from I have no idea. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Sep 20, 2014, at 4:59 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there Well lazy me did something else. I put my Mac on my lap and shut it, and then sorted my Mail sitting in my recliner. I wasn't sure that was going to work but it did work quite fine. I am finding the level indicator to be a lot more helpful than the review function. Maybe it's just me since I just got it today, but by the time I tell it to scan again I have to be very careful not to change my position. Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2014, at 9:23 AM, Rob Bender rbende...@gmail.com wrote: I also bought the app after hearing the Applevis podcast and reading about the results from others on the list. I had the opportunity to borrow a Nokia phone with the old KNFB app 4 or 5 years ago and was only ever able to get a few words from a page. I was able to sit at the kitchen table and sort the mail just after buying the new app. It is definitely better than the old app since the field of view report and the tilt notification are a great help in lining up the camera. I will add that I had not been able to get good results with the other OCR apps for the iPhone since I was horrible at lining up the camera. It really seems that they did a great job on writing an app which compensates for blind users. I plan to try more documents today. On Sep 20, 2014, at 6:00 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Pete You may have answered this already, but I once tried the KNFB reader that a friend had on his Windows phone. I couldn't get the thing to line up and I got the worst text you ever saw. Obviously, you got it to line up with the restaurant menu, and I'm really impressed about that. I have heard there is an option on this new program to find the line up. How sloppy can you be to line up the text and have the text come out good? I hope my question makes sense. I know a lot of people got the old one to work, but I was hopeless with it. So, did you ever use the old one, and is it, in your opinion, better than it was? Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2014, at 1:58 AM, peter Apgar pap...@gmavt.net wrote: Best app I've ever purchased! I to believe that this works better then desktop scanning programs. First day with it was today. First try at a restaurant scored the entire menu perfectly Pete Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 3:41 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Frankly, I could not agree more!!! My flat bed scanning days are through: or just about anyhow. I never got such good results with the other OCR apps. Not even with Abby Fine Reader Text Grabber, which is kinda sorta okay. The KNFB reader is where it's at if you want it to be both fast and accurate. Yes, it does help you angle the camra just right. I didn't realize, until I started using the KNFB reader app that I was always angling the camra lens much too far upward. Sincerely, the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus! On Sep 19, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:
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Thanks for the answer, but it’s the orientation bit i don’t understand and that’s why i twist my arm in awkward directions, I’m not sure of what the app means by so and so many degrees in either direction, should i turn the phone or only move it to the side? Sometimes it feels like whatever i do it turns out i have the same rotation. /Krister 21 sep 2014 kl. 17:12 skrev Rachel Feinberg walksi...@gmail.com: Hi Krister, If you hold the phone 8-10 inches (20-25 CM) above the document, making sure the camera is centered above it, then you should get fairly accurate results. This is where the field of view report, and the tilt guidance come in extremely handy! You don't need to turn your arm at awkward angles, if anything, you may need to raise, or lower the phone, move it backwards, or forwards, but nothing unnatural. Also, Make sure the phone has the same orientation as the document (portrait or landscape), and let the built-in guidance features help you orient the last bit if needed. HTH, Rachel. On 9/21/2014 2:07 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: I’ve never found out what to turn and how, i lose edges when i turn and get muscle ache from holding my hand in strange angles.:-) No, the clock orientation thingy isn’t something i understand, but then i am a bear with a very, very, vary little brain. /Krister 21 sep 2014 kl. 00:07 skrev Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com: I’ve had the phone turned up to 18 degrees off center and it’s worked just fine so I think it really depends on the clarity of text. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Sep 20, 2014, at 5:09 PM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: Hi! So you have to have the phone or paper in the right clock direction. It can't turn the page virtually in the app. /A 20 sep 2014 kl. 23:03 skrev Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com: GiGi, that’s the beauty of the tilt function. I’m usually fairly good at balancing the phone but if I do more than one scan of something in the same spot, such as just moving another piece of mail under it, I tend to tip the phone. The thing that confuses me at times is the clock face orientation. I have to tell myself that it is reporting the position of the material under the phone and that I should turn the phone in that direction until it says 0. For some weird reason my brain conjured that this was the orientation of the phone itself when looking at the image and that I must turn the phone in the opposite direction to reorient. Where that came from I have no idea. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Sep 20, 2014, at 4:59 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com mailto:gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there Well lazy me did something else. I put my Mac on my lap and shut it, and then sorted my Mail sitting in my recliner. I wasn't sure that was going to work but it did work quite fine. I am finding the level indicator to be a lot more helpful than the review function. Maybe it's just me since I just got it today, but by the time I tell it to scan again I have to be very careful not to change my position. Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2014, at 9:23 AM, Rob Bender rbende...@gmail.com mailto:rbende...@gmail.com wrote: I also bought the app after hearing the Applevis podcast and reading about the results from others on the list. I had the opportunity to borrow a Nokia phone with the old KNFB app 4 or 5 years ago and was only ever able to get a few words from a page. I was able to sit at the kitchen table and sort the mail just after buying the new app. It is definitely better than the old app since the field of view report and the tilt notification are a great help in lining up the camera. I will add that I had not been able to get good results with the other OCR apps for the iPhone since I was horrible at lining up the camera. It really seems that they did a great job on writing an app which compensates for blind users. I plan to try more documents today. On Sep 20, 2014, at 6:00 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com mailto:gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Pete You may have answered this already, but I once tried the KNFB reader that a friend had on his Windows phone. I couldn't get the thing to line up and I got the worst text you ever saw. Obviously, you got it to line up with the restaurant menu, and I'm really impressed about that. I have heard there is an option on this new program to find the line up. How sloppy can you be to line up the text and have the text come out good? I hope my question makes sense. I know a lot of people got the old one to work, but I was hopeless with it. So, did you ever use the old one, and is it, in
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I read the quick start manual. You should hold the phone in the same orientation as the document you are scanning. I went into the settings and landscape was off. I scanned a page of a book and held my phone camera down with the phone in portrait position. It also suggests that instead of the double tap, you use the split finger tap. Place two fingers on the left side of the phone, lift one finger and tap the phone. It should take a picture and begin reading very soon. On 9/21/14, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote: Thanks for the answer, but it’s the orientation bit i don’t understand and that’s why i twist my arm in awkward directions, I’m not sure of what the app means by so and so many degrees in either direction, should i turn the phone or only move it to the side? Sometimes it feels like whatever i do it turns out i have the same rotation. /Krister 21 sep 2014 kl. 17:12 skrev Rachel Feinberg walksi...@gmail.com: Hi Krister, If you hold the phone 8-10 inches (20-25 CM) above the document, making sure the camera is centered above it, then you should get fairly accurate results. This is where the field of view report, and the tilt guidance come in extremely handy! You don't need to turn your arm at awkward angles, if anything, you may need to raise, or lower the phone, move it backwards, or forwards, but nothing unnatural. Also, Make sure the phone has the same orientation as the document (portrait or landscape), and let the built-in guidance features help you orient the last bit if needed. HTH, Rachel. On 9/21/2014 2:07 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: I’ve never found out what to turn and how, i lose edges when i turn and get muscle ache from holding my hand in strange angles.:-) No, the clock orientation thingy isn’t something i understand, but then i am a bear with a very, very, vary little brain. /Krister 21 sep 2014 kl. 00:07 skrev Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com: I’ve had the phone turned up to 18 degrees off center and it’s worked just fine so I think it really depends on the clarity of text. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Sep 20, 2014, at 5:09 PM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: Hi! So you have to have the phone or paper in the right clock direction. It can't turn the page virtually in the app. /A 20 sep 2014 kl. 23:03 skrev Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com: GiGi, that’s the beauty of the tilt function. I’m usually fairly good at balancing the phone but if I do more than one scan of something in the same spot, such as just moving another piece of mail under it, I tend to tip the phone. The thing that confuses me at times is the clock face orientation. I have to tell myself that it is reporting the position of the material under the phone and that I should turn the phone in that direction until it says 0. For some weird reason my brain conjured that this was the orientation of the phone itself when looking at the image and that I must turn the phone in the opposite direction to reorient. Where that came from I have no idea. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Sep 20, 2014, at 4:59 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com mailto:gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there Well lazy me did something else. I put my Mac on my lap and shut it, and then sorted my Mail sitting in my recliner. I wasn't sure that was going to work but it did work quite fine. I am finding the level indicator to be a lot more helpful than the review function. Maybe it's just me since I just got it today, but by the time I tell it to scan again I have to be very careful not to change my position. Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2014, at 9:23 AM, Rob Bender rbende...@gmail.com mailto:rbende...@gmail.com wrote: I also bought the app after hearing the Applevis podcast and reading about the results from others on the list. I had the opportunity to borrow a Nokia phone with the old KNFB app 4 or 5 years ago and was only ever able to get a few words from a page. I was able to sit at the kitchen table and sort the mail just after buying the new app. It is definitely better than the old app since the field of view report and the tilt notification are a great help in lining up the camera. I will add that I had not been able to get good results with the other OCR apps for the iPhone since I was horrible at lining up the camera. It really seems that they did a great job on writing an app which compensates for blind users. I plan to try more documents today. On Sep 20, 2014, at 6:00 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com mailto:gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Pete You may have answered this already, but I once tried the KNFB reader that a friend had on his Windows phone. I couldn't get the thing to line up and I got the worst text you
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Is split finger tap the same as placing two fingers on the screen and only lift one of the fingers while the other one is still on the screen and tap with the one you lift? Take care 21. sep. 2014 kl. 23:05 skrev Marianne Denning maria...@denningweb.com: I read the quick start manual. You should hold the phone in the same orientation as the document you are scanning. I went into the settings and landscape was off. I scanned a page of a book and held my phone camera down with the phone in portrait position. It also suggests that instead of the double tap, you use the split finger tap. Place two fingers on the left side of the phone, lift one finger and tap the phone. It should take a picture and begin reading very soon. On 9/21/14, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote: Thanks for the answer, but it’s the orientation bit i don’t understand and that’s why i twist my arm in awkward directions, I’m not sure of what the app means by so and so many degrees in either direction, should i turn the phone or only move it to the side? Sometimes it feels like whatever i do it turns out i have the same rotation. /Krister 21 sep 2014 kl. 17:12 skrev Rachel Feinberg walksi...@gmail.com: Hi Krister, If you hold the phone 8-10 inches (20-25 CM) above the document, making sure the camera is centered above it, then you should get fairly accurate results. This is where the field of view report, and the tilt guidance come in extremely handy! You don't need to turn your arm at awkward angles, if anything, you may need to raise, or lower the phone, move it backwards, or forwards, but nothing unnatural. Also, Make sure the phone has the same orientation as the document (portrait or landscape), and let the built-in guidance features help you orient the last bit if needed. HTH, Rachel. On 9/21/2014 2:07 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: I’ve never found out what to turn and how, i lose edges when i turn and get muscle ache from holding my hand in strange angles.:-) No, the clock orientation thingy isn’t something i understand, but then i am a bear with a very, very, vary little brain. /Krister 21 sep 2014 kl. 00:07 skrev Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com: I’ve had the phone turned up to 18 degrees off center and it’s worked just fine so I think it really depends on the clarity of text. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Sep 20, 2014, at 5:09 PM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: Hi! So you have to have the phone or paper in the right clock direction. It can't turn the page virtually in the app. /A 20 sep 2014 kl. 23:03 skrev Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com: GiGi, that’s the beauty of the tilt function. I’m usually fairly good at balancing the phone but if I do more than one scan of something in the same spot, such as just moving another piece of mail under it, I tend to tip the phone. The thing that confuses me at times is the clock face orientation. I have to tell myself that it is reporting the position of the material under the phone and that I should turn the phone in that direction until it says 0. For some weird reason my brain conjured that this was the orientation of the phone itself when looking at the image and that I must turn the phone in the opposite direction to reorient. Where that came from I have no idea. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Sep 20, 2014, at 4:59 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com mailto:gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there Well lazy me did something else. I put my Mac on my lap and shut it, and then sorted my Mail sitting in my recliner. I wasn't sure that was going to work but it did work quite fine. I am finding the level indicator to be a lot more helpful than the review function. Maybe it's just me since I just got it today, but by the time I tell it to scan again I have to be very careful not to change my position. Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2014, at 9:23 AM, Rob Bender rbende...@gmail.com mailto:rbende...@gmail.com wrote: I also bought the app after hearing the Applevis podcast and reading about the results from others on the list. I had the opportunity to borrow a Nokia phone with the old KNFB app 4 or 5 years ago and was only ever able to get a few words from a page. I was able to sit at the kitchen table and sort the mail just after buying the new app. It is definitely better than the old app since the field of view report and the tilt notification are a great help in lining up the camera. I will add that I had not been able to get good results with the other OCR apps for the iPhone since I was horrible at lining up the camera. It really seems that they did a great job on writing an app which compensates for blind users. I plan to try more documents today.
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Oh wow, had no idea there finally was one available; how much do they want for it? On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:31 AM, Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: I just bought it. I will let you know how it works. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: Apparently the app is $100. CB Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB Reader is now available in the iTunes app store. Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance, we have been interested in the development of better and more portable reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus, labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday life, even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of us carry each day provides instant access to the printed word. We can hear our mail or the menu at our favorite restaurant spoken with the iPhone's built-in text-to-speech technology, or read it in Braille with a refreshable Braille display. This app will fundamentally change the everyday lives of many blind people, helping us to get the information we need and live the lives we want. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Ok, sorry about my last message; still getting caught up on 2 days worth of e-mail, and this one turned into a 72 message thread. On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: Apparently the app is $100. CB Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB Reader is now available in the iTunes app store. Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance, we have been interested in the development of better and more portable reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus, labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday life, even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of us carry each day provides instant access to the printed word. We can hear our mail or the menu at our favorite restaurant spoken with the iPhone's built-in text-to-speech technology, or read it in Braille with a refreshable Braille display. This app will fundamentally change the everyday lives of many blind people, helping us to get the information we need and live the lives we want. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Yeah, I'd say that's a little steep, I think the least they could do if they're going to charge that much, is offer a trial/lite version to test it out, that way if we want to do more with it, we'll have to buy the full version of it, instead of paying the $100 for it, only to find out it's not workable for us. A friend of mine who got me into the homebased business I've been at for over 2 years had one, and said it didn't work well for her, and ended up having to depend on someone to read the cards on the back of the mixes we sell in order to find out what they were and how to prep them. On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:59 PM, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com wrote: $100? Ouch. On 9/19/14, Chris G jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com wrote: Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina? Chris Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 743-8244 web: www.mysticaccess.com Accessible Gadgets mailing list: http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com Twitter: MysticAccess Twitter: JediKent On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400 Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: I just bought it. I will let you know how it works. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: Apparently the app is $100. CB Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB Reader is now available in the iTunes app store. Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance, we have been interested in the development of better and more portable reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus, labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday life, even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of us carry each day provides instant access to the printed word. We can hear our mail or the menu at our favorite restaurant spoken with the iPhone's built-in text-to-speech technology, or read it in Braille with a refreshable Braille display. This app will fundamentally change the everyday lives of many blind people, helping us to get the information we need and live the lives we want. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 743-8244 web: www.mysticaccess.com Accessible Gadgets mailing list: http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com Twitter: MysticAccess Twitter: JediKent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
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They won't. Back in the summer, on Twitter, they said that Apple would not allow trials of apps. While that's true, Apple does offer several mechanisms for doing this. As soon as I and several others pointed these methods out to them, they said doing a trial would be confusing to our customers. On Sep 21, 2014, at 8:34 PM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, I'd say that's a little steep, I think the least they could do if they're going to charge that much, is offer a trial/lite version to test it out, that way if we want to do more with it, we'll have to buy the full version of it, instead of paying the $100 for it, only to find out it's not workable for us. A friend of mine who got me into the homebased business I've been at for over 2 years had one, and said it didn't work well for her, and ended up having to depend on someone to read the cards on the back of the mixes we sell in order to find out what they were and how to prep them. On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:59 PM, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com wrote: $100? Ouch. On 9/19/14, Chris G jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com wrote: Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina? Chris Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 743-8244 web: www.mysticaccess.com Accessible Gadgets mailing list: http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com Twitter: MysticAccess Twitter: JediKent On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400 Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: I just bought it. I will let you know how it works. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: Apparently the app is $100. CB Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB Reader is now available in the iTunes app store. Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance, we have been interested in the development of better and more portable reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus, labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday life, even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of us carry each day provides instant access to the printed word. We can hear our mail or the menu at our favorite restaurant spoken with the iPhone's built-in text-to-speech technology, or read it in Braille with a refreshable Braille display. This app will fundamentally change the everyday lives of many blind people, helping us to get the information we need and live the lives we want. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 743-8244 web: www.mysticaccess.com Accessible Gadgets mailing list: http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com Twitter: MysticAccess Twitter: JediKent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and
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Text detective is crap. I made the mistake of buying it about 2 years ago, and even with sighted help aiming the camera, it still didn't always read stuff properly, and I didn't want something I was going to have to rely on someone to help me possission the camera to read everything I needed to scan, especially when it came to the mixes I order from the company I work for and I wanted to do something simple like make a batch of sugar cookies. On Sep 19, 2014, at 3:28 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote: Donna, I'm not Kevin but bought the app last night. On my first picture, I got 100 per cent accuracy of an entire credit card statement which obviously has lots of numbers and weird abbreviations. I spent about a minute lining the document up and then took one picture and it was perfect! I never had anything close to that with Prismo, Text Grabber or Text Detective. I rarely got the whole document there, whereas KNFB Reader helps you line it up if you want it to. It also does images and pdf images, so it is definitely worth it for me. I'm now sorry I wasted the money on those others, but it was all there was at the time and they served their purpose. KNFB Reader is now the only OCR app on my phone. It takes about 2 seconds from when the picture is taken to when it starts reading, and I'm using an iPhone 5 at this stage. Good luck with your decision Lisette On 20/09/2014, at 6:28 am, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Kevin, can you say more? I'm kind of on the fence about whether or not to purchase it, but so far I'm not completely happy with either textGrabber or Prizmo. I think the place where I'm going wrong with both those apps is the positioning of the camera. Does KNFB Reader make that easier? Thanks, Donna On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: It just works. I'm glad I bought it. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary gary.robl...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, I know. Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration? Gary On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com wrote: $100? Ouch. On 9/19/14, Chris G jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com wrote: Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina? Chris Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 743-8244 web: www.mysticaccess.com Accessible Gadgets mailing list: http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com Twitter: MysticAccess Twitter: JediKent On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400 Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: I just bought it. I will let you know how it works. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: Apparently the app is $100. CB Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB Reader is now available in the iTunes app store. Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance, we have been interested in the development of better and more portable reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus, labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday life, even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of us carry each day provides instant access to the printed word. We can hear our mail or the menu at our favorite restaurant spoken with the iPhone's built-in text-to-speech technology, or read it in Braille with a refreshable Braille display. This app will fundamentally change the everyday lives of many blind people, helping us to get the information we need and live the lives we want. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
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Just out of curiosity, when it comes to reading things like food labels, compared to both the omni and all these various apps we use to scan packages, cans, etc how much of the info will the knfb reader app read, or does it depend mostly on where you point the camera. I love how the omni reads literally everything on a package of food, and love the camfind app, for example, and find it to be a lot faster than most of the apps I've used, but am disappointed that none of them will tell me many calories and things of that nature are in whatever I've scanned. On Sep 19, 2014, at 3:41 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Frankly, I could not agree more!!! My flat bed scanning days are through: or just about anyhow. I never got such good results with the other OCR apps. Not even with Abby Fine Reader Text Grabber, which is kinda sorta okay. The KNFB reader is where it's at if you want it to be both fast and accurate. Yes, it does help you angle the camra just right. I didn't realize, until I started using the KNFB reader app that I was always angling the camra lens much too far upward. Sincerely, the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus! On Sep 19, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote: Donna, I'm not Kevin but bought the app last night. On my first picture, I got 100 per cent accuracy of an entire credit card statement which obviously has lots of numbers and weird abbreviations. I spent about a minute lining the document up and then took one picture and it was perfect! I never had anything close to that with Prismo, Text Grabber or Text Detective. I rarely got the whole document there, whereas KNFB Reader helps you line it up if you want it to. It also does images and pdf images, so it is definitely worth it for me. I'm now sorry I wasted the money on those others, but it was all there was at the time and they served their purpose. KNFB Reader is now the only OCR app on my phone. It takes about 2 seconds from when the picture is taken to when it starts reading, and I'm using an iPhone 5 at this stage. Good luck with your decision Lisette On 20/09/2014, at 6:28 am, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Kevin, can you say more? I'm kind of on the fence about whether or not to purchase it, but so far I'm not completely happy with either textGrabber or Prizmo. I think the place where I'm going wrong with both those apps is the positioning of the camera. Does KNFB Reader make that easier? Thanks, Donna On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: It just works. I'm glad I bought it. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary gary.robl...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, I know. Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration? Gary On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com wrote: $100? Ouch. On 9/19/14, Chris G jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com wrote: Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina? Chris Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 743-8244 web: www.mysticaccess.com Accessible Gadgets mailing list: http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com Twitter: MysticAccess Twitter: JediKent On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400 Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: I just bought it. I will let you know how it works. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: Apparently the app is $100. CB Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB Reader is now available in the iTunes app store. Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance, we have been interested in the development
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I agree with you about Text Detective. But, trust me, you can't go wrong with the KNFB reader. Believe you me. I have tried to use the other apps and gotten crap as a result. With the KNFB Reader, beautiful perfect accuracy. I aint liiing. Sincerely, the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus! On Sep 21, 2014, at 7:40 PM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote: Text detective is crap. I made the mistake of buying it about 2 years ago, and even with sighted help aiming the camera, it still didn't always read stuff properly, and I didn't want something I was going to have to rely on someone to help me possission the camera to read everything I needed to scan, especially when it came to the mixes I order from the company I work for and I wanted to do something simple like make a batch of sugar cookies. On Sep 19, 2014, at 3:28 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote: Donna, I'm not Kevin but bought the app last night. On my first picture, I got 100 per cent accuracy of an entire credit card statement which obviously has lots of numbers and weird abbreviations. I spent about a minute lining the document up and then took one picture and it was perfect! I never had anything close to that with Prismo, Text Grabber or Text Detective. I rarely got the whole document there, whereas KNFB Reader helps you line it up if you want it to. It also does images and pdf images, so it is definitely worth it for me. I'm now sorry I wasted the money on those others, but it was all there was at the time and they served their purpose. KNFB Reader is now the only OCR app on my phone. It takes about 2 seconds from when the picture is taken to when it starts reading, and I'm using an iPhone 5 at this stage. Good luck with your decision Lisette On 20/09/2014, at 6:28 am, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Kevin, can you say more? I'm kind of on the fence about whether or not to purchase it, but so far I'm not completely happy with either textGrabber or Prizmo. I think the place where I'm going wrong with both those apps is the positioning of the camera. Does KNFB Reader make that easier? Thanks, Donna On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: It just works. I'm glad I bought it. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary gary.robl...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, I know. Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration? Gary On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com wrote: $100? Ouch. On 9/19/14, Chris G jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com wrote: Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina? Chris Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 743-8244 web: www.mysticaccess.com Accessible Gadgets mailing list: http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com Twitter: MysticAccess Twitter: JediKent On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400 Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: I just bought it. I will let you know how it works. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: Apparently the app is $100. CB Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB Reader is now available in the iTunes app store. Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance, we have been interested in the development of better and more portable reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus, labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday life, even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of us carry each day provides instant access to the
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I was curious about that too actually, I like that with ios8, you have the option to do that now, but haven't figured out how to yet, sense I'm still playing around with it. On Sep 19, 2014, at 4:00 PM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Since you brought up the topic of scanning a credit card bill, I have a question for you and anyone else that has the app. Can the KNFB app read the back of a credit card where the 3 digit security code is or for that matter scan the from where the account number and expiration date is? This would be quite nifty if the KNFB Reader app could do that. Lately, more and more companies are asking for the 3 digit code, but each time you receive a new card in the mail, those 3 security digit code numbers change. I look forward to hearing from those who have the app regarding this. Thanks. Best, Eileen -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lisette Wesseling Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 12:28 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App Donna, I'm not Kevin but bought the app last night. On my first picture, I got 100 per cent accuracy of an entire credit card statement which obviously has lots of numbers and weird abbreviations. I spent about a minute lining the document up and then took one picture and it was perfect! I never had anything close to that with Prismo, Text Grabber or Text Detective. I rarely got the whole document there, whereas KNFB Reader helps you line it up if you want it to. It also does images and pdf images, so it is definitely worth it for me. I'm now sorry I wasted the money on those others, but it was all there was at the time and they served their purpose. KNFB Reader is now the only OCR app on my phone. It takes about 2 seconds from when the picture is taken to when it starts reading, and I'm using an iPhone 5 at this stage. Good luck with your decision Lisette On 20/09/2014, at 6:28 am, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Kevin, can you say more? I'm kind of on the fence about whether or not to purchase it, but so far I'm not completely happy with either textGrabber or Prizmo. I think the place where I'm going wrong with both those apps is the positioning of the camera. Does KNFB Reader make that easier? Thanks, Donna On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: It just works. I'm glad I bought it. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary gary.robl...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, I know. Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration? Gary On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com wrote: $100? Ouch. On 9/19/14, Chris G jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com wrote: Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina? Chris Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 743-8244 web: www.mysticaccess.com Accessible Gadgets mailing list: http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysti caccess.com Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com Twitter: MysticAccess Twitter: JediKent On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400 Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: I just bought it. I will let you know how it works. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: Apparently the app is $100. CB Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB Reader is now available in the iTunes app store. Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance, we have been interested in the development of better and more portable reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus, labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday life, even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now revolutionary technology that resides on the phones
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In 1990 Vocational Rehab and an associated State organization for unemployment purchased the Kurzweil personal reader for me. That purchase and the technology opened a door to employment for me. Since that experience, I would recommend anything developed by Kurzweil. It worked then and it works now. Kevin Sent from my iPhone On Sep 21, 2014, at 9:21 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi Krister, I'm not a developer, so make no evaluation whatsoever of how much work they had to do to add the tilt guidance, field of view, and the anti-skewing stuff. I still think the price was too high, but as Kevin wrote on Friday, it just works. I know some people put a lot of time into learning to use Prizmo, and I understand that they got good results. I barely have enough time to breathe each day. I get up in the morning and am busy till I go to bed at night. I don't have that kind of time to spend practicing to use an app. So yes, I do think the price is high, but I also know that it meets my needs without requiring a ton of practice time. So I bought it, and I recommend it to others. As to your question what if someone else built those same features into a mainstream app, I think that'd be fabulous. But right now that hasn't happened, so I'm going with the KNFB reader. Cheers, Donna On Sep 21, 2014, at 3:58 AM, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote: Well, Prizmo has some kind of guidance similar to the KNFB reader but it seems to be unreliable at times and i don't think it has the tilt sensor. What if that was built in? And another question on the same topic: The way we all, me included skeptical as i am, rave about the KNFB reader, how much do we really know about what the folks have done to make it this good? What if it was only the tilt sensor and the field view report and the rest was an ordinary OCR app? We make it sound like this app is the worlds 8th miracle, what if it ain't? What if some mainstream developer added at leas the guidance that Prizmo already has and a tilt sensor and it became just as good? Sorry for sounding skeptical, i'm just wondering about things. /Krister 20 sep 2014 kl. 18:41 skrev Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com: Well, I can certainly agree that assistive isn't always equal to overpriced, and indeed I have owned the flatbed and now own the camera edition Sara, both of which have worked quite well, and with mainstream OCR software and flatbed scanners, really quite excellently. Anything to lower the cost of investment is always useful though. I am hoping to standardise on something that is accurate and realistically caters to my needs, and this app looks very promising going forward. However I do worry that the cost would not be justified if I found another app. I have had all the mentioned apps so far--TextDetective, TextGrabber, and Prizmo--and have not even been able to choose among these three yet, though Prizmo is now the one on my phone. Can anyone suggest ways in which any of these three apps might somehow be improved to match the speed and accuracy of KNFB as it now stands? A difficult question, I know, but I'm hoping someone knows something I don't. This is mostly an exercise in discovery, of course, since I now own all four of them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at
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Hello everyone, I'm just wondering if anyone has tried using the KNFB reader with a battery something like the mophy juice pack attached? Is there a difference in using it? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 21, 2014, at 8:55 PM, Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: In 1990 Vocational Rehab and an associated State organization for unemployment purchased the Kurzweil personal reader for me. That purchase and the technology opened a door to employment for me. Since that experience, I would recommend anything developed by Kurzweil. It worked then and it works now. Kevin Sent from my iPhone On Sep 21, 2014, at 9:21 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi Krister, I'm not a developer, so make no evaluation whatsoever of how much work they had to do to add the tilt guidance, field of view, and the anti-skewing stuff. I still think the price was too high, but as Kevin wrote on Friday, it just works. I know some people put a lot of time into learning to use Prizmo, and I understand that they got good results. I barely have enough time to breathe each day. I get up in the morning and am busy till I go to bed at night. I don't have that kind of time to spend practicing to use an app. So yes, I do think the price is high, but I also know that it meets my needs without requiring a ton of practice time. So I bought it, and I recommend it to others. As to your question what if someone else built those same features into a mainstream app, I think that'd be fabulous. But right now that hasn't happened, so I'm going with the KNFB reader. Cheers, Donna On Sep 21, 2014, at 3:58 AM, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote: Well, Prizmo has some kind of guidance similar to the KNFB reader but it seems to be unreliable at times and i don't think it has the tilt sensor. What if that was built in? And another question on the same topic: The way we all, me included skeptical as i am, rave about the KNFB reader, how much do we really know about what the folks have done to make it this good? What if it was only the tilt sensor and the field view report and the rest was an ordinary OCR app? We make it sound like this app is the worlds 8th miracle, what if it ain't? What if some mainstream developer added at leas the guidance that Prizmo already has and a tilt sensor and it became just as good? Sorry for sounding skeptical, i'm just wondering about things. /Krister 20 sep 2014 kl. 18:41 skrev Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com: Well, I can certainly agree that assistive isn't always equal to overpriced, and indeed I have owned the flatbed and now own the camera edition Sara, both of which have worked quite well, and with mainstream OCR software and flatbed scanners, really quite excellently. Anything to lower the cost of investment is always useful though. I am hoping to standardise on something that is accurate and realistically caters to my needs, and this app looks very promising going forward. However I do worry that the cost would not be justified if I found another app. I have had all the mentioned apps so far--TextDetective, TextGrabber, and Prizmo--and have not even been able to choose among these three yet, though Prizmo is now the one on my phone. Can anyone suggest ways in which any of these three apps might somehow be improved to match the speed and accuracy of KNFB as it now stands? A difficult question, I know, but I'm hoping someone knows something I don't. This is mostly an exercise in discovery, of course, since I now own all four of them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message
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Best app I've ever purchased! I to believe that this works better then desktop scanning programs. First day with it was today. First try at a restaurant scored the entire menu perfectly Pete Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 3:41 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Frankly, I could not agree more!!! My flat bed scanning days are through: or just about anyhow. I never got such good results with the other OCR apps. Not even with Abby Fine Reader Text Grabber, which is kinda sorta okay. The KNFB reader is where it's at if you want it to be both fast and accurate. Yes, it does help you angle the camra just right. I didn't realize, until I started using the KNFB reader app that I was always angling the camra lens much too far upward. Sincerely, the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus! On Sep 19, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote: Donna, I'm not Kevin but bought the app last night. On my first picture, I got 100 per cent accuracy of an entire credit card statement which obviously has lots of numbers and weird abbreviations. I spent about a minute lining the document up and then took one picture and it was perfect! I never had anything close to that with Prismo, Text Grabber or Text Detective. I rarely got the whole document there, whereas KNFB Reader helps you line it up if you want it to. It also does images and pdf images, so it is definitely worth it for me. I'm now sorry I wasted the money on those others, but it was all there was at the time and they served their purpose. KNFB Reader is now the only OCR app on my phone. It takes about 2 seconds from when the picture is taken to when it starts reading, and I'm using an iPhone 5 at this stage. Good luck with your decision Lisette On 20/09/2014, at 6:28 am, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Kevin, can you say more? I'm kind of on the fence about whether or not to purchase it, but so far I'm not completely happy with either textGrabber or Prizmo. I think the place where I'm going wrong with both those apps is the positioning of the camera. Does KNFB Reader make that easier? Thanks, Donna On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: It just works. I'm glad I bought it. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary gary.robl...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, I know. Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration? Gary On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com wrote: $100? Ouch. On 9/19/14, Chris G jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com wrote: Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina? Chris Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 743-8244 web: www.mysticaccess.com Accessible Gadgets mailing list: http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com Twitter: MysticAccess Twitter: JediKent On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400 Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: I just bought it. I will let you know how it works. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: Apparently the app is $100. CB Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB Reader is now available in the iTunes app store. Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance, we have been interested in the development of better and more portable reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus, labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday life, even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of us carry each day provides instant
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Hi Pete You may have answered this already, but I once tried the KNFB reader that a friend had on his Windows phone. I couldn't get the thing to line up and I got the worst text you ever saw. Obviously, you got it to line up with the restaurant menu, and I'm really impressed about that. I have heard there is an option on this new program to find the line up. How sloppy can you be to line up the text and have the text come out good? I hope my question makes sense. I know a lot of people got the old one to work, but I was hopeless with it. So, did you ever use the old one, and is it, in your opinion, better than it was? Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2014, at 1:58 AM, peter Apgar pap...@gmavt.net wrote: Best app I've ever purchased! I to believe that this works better then desktop scanning programs. First day with it was today. First try at a restaurant scored the entire menu perfectly Pete Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 3:41 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Frankly, I could not agree more!!! My flat bed scanning days are through: or just about anyhow. I never got such good results with the other OCR apps. Not even with Abby Fine Reader Text Grabber, which is kinda sorta okay. The KNFB reader is where it's at if you want it to be both fast and accurate. Yes, it does help you angle the camra just right. I didn't realize, until I started using the KNFB reader app that I was always angling the camra lens much too far upward. Sincerely, the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus! On Sep 19, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote: Donna, I'm not Kevin but bought the app last night. On my first picture, I got 100 per cent accuracy of an entire credit card statement which obviously has lots of numbers and weird abbreviations. I spent about a minute lining the document up and then took one picture and it was perfect! I never had anything close to that with Prismo, Text Grabber or Text Detective. I rarely got the whole document there, whereas KNFB Reader helps you line it up if you want it to. It also does images and pdf images, so it is definitely worth it for me. I'm now sorry I wasted the money on those others, but it was all there was at the time and they served their purpose. KNFB Reader is now the only OCR app on my phone. It takes about 2 seconds from when the picture is taken to when it starts reading, and I'm using an iPhone 5 at this stage. Good luck with your decision Lisette On 20/09/2014, at 6:28 am, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Kevin, can you say more? I'm kind of on the fence about whether or not to purchase it, but so far I'm not completely happy with either textGrabber or Prizmo. I think the place where I'm going wrong with both those apps is the positioning of the camera. Does KNFB Reader make that easier? Thanks, Donna On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: It just works. I'm glad I bought it. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary gary.robl...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, I know. Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration? Gary On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com wrote: $100? Ouch. On 9/19/14, Chris G jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com wrote: Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina? Chris Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 743-8244 web: www.mysticaccess.com Accessible Gadgets mailing list: http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com Twitter: MysticAccess Twitter: JediKent On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400 Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: I just bought it. I will let you know how it works. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: Apparently the app is $100. CB Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB Reader is now available in the iTunes app store. Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: The
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Yes, Abbyy Fine Reader, the OCR engine in KNFBReader, and in TextGrabber, is free. OCR is not any faster in KNFBReader compared with the other two apps. What is different is that KNFBReader is sending the text directly to the speech synthesiser as it is processed. Turn off automatic announcement of text and KNFBReader acts like the other OCR apps regarding speed of OCR. The alignment training settings are excellent because they are actually finally teaching blind people what they have been doing wrong with OCR apps. Personally, I like the automatic picture taking feature. Otherwise, the app is quite similar to TextGrabber and Prizmo as far as taking manual pictures is concerned. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 20 Sep 2014, at 08:07, BobH. long.c...@virgin.net wrote: Mrs tells me the abbyy Finereader app is itself available and free; over here at least. Could be a question of accessibility. Will have to go look, but all the other helpp may well yet be worth the cost. Rh. - Original Message - From: Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 8:55 PM Subject: Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App The interesting thing about all this is that according to the app itself, it uses Abbyy Finereaders OCR engine and Textgrabber is actually very fast when it comes to recognizing the text, but it's much harder to get a good result. It makes me wonder how the IPhone app compares to the old Nokia app, which didn't impress me much. /Krister 19 sep 2014 kl. 21:41 skrev Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net: Frankly, I could not agree more!!! My flat bed scanning days are through: or just about anyhow. I never got such good results with the other OCR apps. Not even with Abby Fine Reader Text Grabber, which is kinda sorta okay. The KNFB reader is where it's at if you want it to be both fast and accurate. Yes, it does help you angle the camra just right. I didn't realize, until I started using the KNFB reader app that I was always angling the camra lens much too far upward. Sincerely, the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus! On Sep 19, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com mailto:lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote: Donna, I'm not Kevin but bought the app last night. On my first picture, I got 100 per cent accuracy of an entire credit card statement which obviously has lots of numbers and weird abbreviations. I spent about a minute lining the document up and then took one picture and it was perfect! I never had anything close to that with Prismo, Text Grabber or Text Detective. I rarely got the whole document there, whereas KNFB Reader helps you line it up if you want it to. It also does images and pdf images, so it is definitely worth it for me. I'm now sorry I wasted the money on those others, but it was all there was at the time and they served their purpose. KNFB Reader is now the only OCR app on my phone. It takes about 2 seconds from when the picture is taken to when it starts reading, and I'm using an iPhone 5 at this stage. Good luck with your decision Lisette On 20/09/2014, at 6:28 am, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com mailto:doniado...@me.com wrote: Kevin, can you say more? I'm kind of on the fence about whether or not to purchase it, but so far I'm not completely happy with either textGrabber or Prizmo. I think the place where I'm going wrong with both those apps is the positioning of the camera. Does KNFB Reader make that easier? Thanks, Donna On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com mailto:kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: It just works. I'm glad I bought it. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary gary.robl...@gmail.com mailto:gary.robl...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, I know. Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration? Gary On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com mailto:came...@cameronstrife.com wrote: $100? Ouch. On 9/19/14, Chris G jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com mailto:jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com wrote: Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina? Chris Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 743-8244 web: www.mysticaccess.com http://www.mysticaccess.com/ Accessible Gadgets mailing list: http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com Twitter: MysticAccess Twitter: JediKent On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400 Kevin
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That will depend on the credit card. if there is enough contrast around the security numbers, it will be somewhat effective. however, it will most likely work with no flash in a well-lit room because the back of credit cards is usually highly reflective. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 20 Sep 2014, at 08:00, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Since you brought up the topic of scanning a credit card bill, I have a question for you and anyone else that has the app. Can the KNFB app read the back of a credit card where the 3 digit security code is or for that matter scan the from where the account number and expiration date is? This would be quite nifty if the KNFB Reader app could do that. Lately, more and more companies are asking for the 3 digit code, but each time you receive a new card in the mail, those 3 security digit code numbers change. I look forward to hearing from those who have the app regarding this. Thanks. Best, Eileen -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lisette Wesseling Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 12:28 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App Donna, I'm not Kevin but bought the app last night. On my first picture, I got 100 per cent accuracy of an entire credit card statement which obviously has lots of numbers and weird abbreviations. I spent about a minute lining the document up and then took one picture and it was perfect! I never had anything close to that with Prismo, Text Grabber or Text Detective. I rarely got the whole document there, whereas KNFB Reader helps you line it up if you want it to. It also does images and pdf images, so it is definitely worth it for me. I'm now sorry I wasted the money on those others, but it was all there was at the time and they served their purpose. KNFB Reader is now the only OCR app on my phone. It takes about 2 seconds from when the picture is taken to when it starts reading, and I'm using an iPhone 5 at this stage. Good luck with your decision Lisette On 20/09/2014, at 6:28 am, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Kevin, can you say more? I'm kind of on the fence about whether or not to purchase it, but so far I'm not completely happy with either textGrabber or Prizmo. I think the place where I'm going wrong with both those apps is the positioning of the camera. Does KNFB Reader make that easier? Thanks, Donna On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: It just works. I'm glad I bought it. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary gary.robl...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, I know. Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration? Gary On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com wrote: $100? Ouch. On 9/19/14, Chris G jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com wrote: Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina? Chris Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 743-8244 web: www.mysticaccess.com Accessible Gadgets mailing list: http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysti caccess.com Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com Twitter: MysticAccess Twitter: JediKent On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400 Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: I just bought it. I will let you know how it works. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: Apparently the app is $100. CB Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB Reader is now available in the iTunes app store. Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance, we have been interested in the development of better and more portable reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus, labels
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Hi David, I am just curious if you have tried getting the 3 digit security code off the back of any of your credit cards? I'll have to take a look at this later on this morning when the sun come up. I didn't think about the glare that could come off the back of a card could interfere with obtaining the info. I'll turn off the flash in the StandScan and see if the code can be captured with Text Grabber. I don't have the KNFB Reader app yet, as I need to invest in a new phone, but a vendor was asking for it when making a purchase yesterday. I'm trying to post inquiries that have been difficult with other OCR software/hardware solutions to see if the KNFB reader will do it better. Thanks for your input. Best, Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2014, at 4:05 AM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: That will depend on the credit card. if there is enough contrast around the security numbers, it will be somewhat effective. however, it will most likely work with no flash in a well-lit room because the back of credit cards is usually highly reflective. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 20 Sep 2014, at 08:00, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Since you brought up the topic of scanning a credit card bill, I have a question for you and anyone else that has the app. Can the KNFB app read the back of a credit card where the 3 digit security code is or for that matter scan the from where the account number and expiration date is? This would be quite nifty if the KNFB Reader app could do that. Lately, more and more companies are asking for the 3 digit code, but each time you receive a new card in the mail, those 3 security digit code numbers change. I look forward to hearing from those who have the app regarding this. Thanks. Best, Eileen -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lisette Wesseling Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 12:28 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App Donna, I'm not Kevin but bought the app last night. On my first picture, I got 100 per cent accuracy of an entire credit card statement which obviously has lots of numbers and weird abbreviations. I spent about a minute lining the document up and then took one picture and it was perfect! I never had anything close to that with Prismo, Text Grabber or Text Detective. I rarely got the whole document there, whereas KNFB Reader helps you line it up if you want it to. It also does images and pdf images, so it is definitely worth it for me. I'm now sorry I wasted the money on those others, but it was all there was at the time and they served their purpose. KNFB Reader is now the only OCR app on my phone. It takes about 2 seconds from when the picture is taken to when it starts reading, and I'm using an iPhone 5 at this stage. Good luck with your decision Lisette On 20/09/2014, at 6:28 am, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Kevin, can you say more? I'm kind of on the fence about whether or not to purchase it, but so far I'm not completely happy with either textGrabber or Prizmo. I think the place where I'm going wrong with both those apps is the positioning of the camera. Does KNFB Reader make that easier? Thanks, Donna On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: It just works. I'm glad I bought it. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary gary.robl...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, I know. Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration? Gary On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com wrote: $100? Ouch. On 9/19/14, Chris G jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com wrote: Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina? Chris Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 743-8244 web: www.mysticaccess.com Accessible Gadgets mailing list: http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysti caccess.com Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com Twitter: MysticAccess Twitter: JediKent On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400 Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: I just bought it. I will let you know how it works. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: Apparently the app is $100. CB Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give the blind instant access
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HI! ONE THING I'D LIKE TO KNOW IS HOW WOULD ONE KNOW WHERE AND HOW TO HOLD THE CAMERA OVER a paper. Anyone? /A 19 sep 2014 kl. 16:28 skrev 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com: Apparently the app is $100. CB Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB Reader is now available in the iTunes app store. Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance, we have been interested in the development of better and more portable reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus, labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday life, even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of us carry each day provides instant access to the printed word. We can hear our mail or the menu at our favorite restaurant spoken with the iPhone's built-in text-to-speech technology, or read it in Braille with a refreshable Braille display. This app will fundamentally change the everyday lives of many blind people, helping us to get the information we need and live the lives we want. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Gigi, I never used the old one, but I can tell you they have features built in to help you line up the camera. First there's this feature called Field of View. It essentially takes a test picture, and then tells you what edges of your document it can see, left right, top bottom. You want to here it say it can see all four edges. This feature also lets you know if your document is skewed clockwise or counter-clockwise. Then there's another feature called tilt guidance, that lets you know if the camera isn't level. Again, easy to use, it vibrates until you have the camera level. It was very easy to line up the camera using these features. HTH, Donna On Sep 20, 2014, at 5:00 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Pete You may have answered this already, but I once tried the KNFB reader that a friend had on his Windows phone. I couldn't get the thing to line up and I got the worst text you ever saw. Obviously, you got it to line up with the restaurant menu, and I'm really impressed about that. I have heard there is an option on this new program to find the line up. How sloppy can you be to line up the text and have the text come out good? I hope my question makes sense. I know a lot of people got the old one to work, but I was hopeless with it. So, did you ever use the old one, and is it, in your opinion, better than it was? Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2014, at 1:58 AM, peter Apgar pap...@gmavt.net wrote: Best app I've ever purchased! I to believe that this works better then desktop scanning programs. First day with it was today. First try at a restaurant scored the entire menu perfectly Pete Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 3:41 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Frankly, I could not agree more!!! My flat bed scanning days are through: or just about anyhow. I never got such good results with the other OCR apps. Not even with Abby Fine Reader Text Grabber, which is kinda sorta okay. The KNFB reader is where it's at if you want it to be both fast and accurate. Yes, it does help you angle the camra just right. I didn't realize, until I started using the KNFB reader app that I was always angling the camra lens much too far upward. Sincerely, the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus! On Sep 19, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote: Donna, I'm not Kevin but bought the app last night. On my first picture, I got 100 per cent accuracy of an entire credit card statement which obviously has lots of numbers and weird abbreviations. I spent about a minute lining the document up and then took one picture and it was perfect! I never had anything close to that with Prismo, Text Grabber or Text Detective. I rarely got the whole document there, whereas KNFB Reader helps you line it up if you want it to. It also does images and pdf images, so it is definitely worth it for me. I'm now sorry I wasted the money on those others, but it was all there was at the time and they served their purpose. KNFB Reader is now the only OCR app on my phone. It takes about 2 seconds from when the picture is taken to when it starts reading, and I'm using an iPhone 5 at this stage. Good luck with your decision Lisette On 20/09/2014, at 6:28 am, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Kevin, can you say more? I'm kind of on the fence about whether or not to purchase it, but so far I'm not completely happy with either textGrabber or Prizmo. I think the place where I'm going wrong with both those apps is the positioning of the camera. Does KNFB Reader make that easier? Thanks, Donna On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: It just works. I'm glad I bought it. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary gary.robl...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, I know. Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration? Gary On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com wrote: $100? Ouch. On 9/19/14, Chris G jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com wrote: Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina? Chris Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 743-8244 web: www.mysticaccess.com Accessible Gadgets mailing list: http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com Twitter: MysticAccess Twitter: JediKent On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400 Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: I just bought it. I will let you know how it works. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App
Good points, David. One thing I remember from one of your previous posts was you writing that you got great results from Prizmo, but that it took a lot of practice. Personally, I don't have the time to do that much practicing with an app, and the KNFB reader saves you all that practice time. Cheers, Donna On Sep 20, 2014, at 6:02 AM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, Abbyy Fine Reader, the OCR engine in KNFBReader, and in TextGrabber, is free. OCR is not any faster in KNFBReader compared with the other two apps. What is different is that KNFBReader is sending the text directly to the speech synthesiser as it is processed. Turn off automatic announcement of text and KNFBReader acts like the other OCR apps regarding speed of OCR. The alignment training settings are excellent because they are actually finally teaching blind people what they have been doing wrong with OCR apps. Personally, I like the automatic picture taking feature. Otherwise, the app is quite similar to TextGrabber and Prizmo as far as taking manual pictures is concerned. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 20 Sep 2014, at 08:07, BobH. long.c...@virgin.net wrote: Mrs tells me the abbyy Finereader app is itself available and free; over here at least. Could be a question of accessibility. Will have to go look, but all the other helpp may well yet be worth the cost. Rh. - Original Message - From: Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 8:55 PM Subject: Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App The interesting thing about all this is that according to the app itself, it uses Abbyy Finereaders OCR engine and Textgrabber is actually very fast when it comes to recognizing the text, but it's much harder to get a good result. It makes me wonder how the IPhone app compares to the old Nokia app, which didn't impress me much. /Krister 19 sep 2014 kl. 21:41 skrev Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net: Frankly, I could not agree more!!! My flat bed scanning days are through: or just about anyhow. I never got such good results with the other OCR apps. Not even with Abby Fine Reader Text Grabber, which is kinda sorta okay. The KNFB reader is where it's at if you want it to be both fast and accurate. Yes, it does help you angle the camra just right. I didn't realize, until I started using the KNFB reader app that I was always angling the camra lens much too far upward. Sincerely, the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus! On Sep 19, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com mailto:lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote: Donna, I'm not Kevin but bought the app last night. On my first picture, I got 100 per cent accuracy of an entire credit card statement which obviously has lots of numbers and weird abbreviations. I spent about a minute lining the document up and then took one picture and it was perfect! I never had anything close to that with Prismo, Text Grabber or Text Detective. I rarely got the whole document there, whereas KNFB Reader helps you line it up if you want it to. It also does images and pdf images, so it is definitely worth it for me. I'm now sorry I wasted the money on those others, but it was all there was at the time and they served their purpose. KNFB Reader is now the only OCR app on my phone. It takes about 2 seconds from when the picture is taken to when it starts reading, and I'm using an iPhone 5 at this stage. Good luck with your decision Lisette On 20/09/2014, at 6:28 am, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com mailto:doniado...@me.com wrote: Kevin, can you say more? I'm kind of on the fence about whether or not to purchase it, but so far I'm not completely happy with either textGrabber or Prizmo. I think the place where I'm going wrong with both those apps is the positioning of the camera. Does KNFB Reader make that easier? Thanks, Donna On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com mailto:kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: It just works. I'm glad I bought it. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary gary.robl...@gmail.com mailto:gary.robl...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, I know. Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration? Gary On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com mailto:came...@cameronstrife.com wrote: $100? Ouch. On 9/19/14, Chris G jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com mailto:jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com wrote: Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina? Chris Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223
Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App
See my last post. Basically, the app comes with features that give you very good feedback while your positioning the camera. Best, Donna On Sep 20, 2014, at 7:44 AM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: HI! ONE THING I'D LIKE TO KNOW IS HOW WOULD ONE KNOW WHERE AND HOW TO HOLD THE CAMERA OVER a paper. Anyone? /A 19 sep 2014 kl. 16:28 skrev 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com: Apparently the app is $100. CB Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB Reader is now available in the iTunes app store. Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance, we have been interested in the development of better and more portable reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus, labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday life, even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of us carry each day provides instant access to the printed word. We can hear our mail or the menu at our favorite restaurant spoken with the iPhone's built-in text-to-speech technology, or read it in Braille with a refreshable Braille display. This app will fundamentally change the everyday lives of many blind people, helping us to get the information we need and live the lives we want. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App
I also bought the app after hearing the Applevis podcast and reading about the results from others on the list. I had the opportunity to borrow a Nokia phone with the old KNFB app 4 or 5 years ago and was only ever able to get a few words from a page. I was able to sit at the kitchen table and sort the mail just after buying the new app. It is definitely better than the old app since the field of view report and the tilt notification are a great help in lining up the camera. I will add that I had not been able to get good results with the other OCR apps for the iPhone since I was horrible at lining up the camera. It really seems that they did a great job on writing an app which compensates for blind users. I plan to try more documents today. On Sep 20, 2014, at 6:00 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Pete You may have answered this already, but I once tried the KNFB reader that a friend had on his Windows phone. I couldn't get the thing to line up and I got the worst text you ever saw. Obviously, you got it to line up with the restaurant menu, and I'm really impressed about that. I have heard there is an option on this new program to find the line up. How sloppy can you be to line up the text and have the text come out good? I hope my question makes sense. I know a lot of people got the old one to work, but I was hopeless with it. So, did you ever use the old one, and is it, in your opinion, better than it was? Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2014, at 1:58 AM, peter Apgar pap...@gmavt.net mailto:pap...@gmavt.net wrote: Best app I've ever purchased! I to believe that this works better then desktop scanning programs. First day with it was today. First try at a restaurant scored the entire menu perfectly Pete Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 3:41 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Frankly, I could not agree more!!! My flat bed scanning days are through: or just about anyhow. I never got such good results with the other OCR apps. Not even with Abby Fine Reader Text Grabber, which is kinda sorta okay. The KNFB reader is where it's at if you want it to be both fast and accurate. Yes, it does help you angle the camra just right. I didn't realize, until I started using the KNFB reader app that I was always angling the camra lens much too far upward. Sincerely, the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus! On Sep 19, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com mailto:lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote: Donna, I'm not Kevin but bought the app last night. On my first picture, I got 100 per cent accuracy of an entire credit card statement which obviously has lots of numbers and weird abbreviations. I spent about a minute lining the document up and then took one picture and it was perfect! I never had anything close to that with Prismo, Text Grabber or Text Detective. I rarely got the whole document there, whereas KNFB Reader helps you line it up if you want it to. It also does images and pdf images, so it is definitely worth it for me. I'm now sorry I wasted the money on those others, but it was all there was at the time and they served their purpose. KNFB Reader is now the only OCR app on my phone. It takes about 2 seconds from when the picture is taken to when it starts reading, and I'm using an iPhone 5 at this stage. Good luck with your decision Lisette On 20/09/2014, at 6:28 am, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com mailto:doniado...@me.com wrote: Kevin, can you say more? I'm kind of on the fence about whether or not to purchase it, but so far I'm not completely happy with either textGrabber or Prizmo. I think the place where I'm going wrong with both those apps is the positioning of the camera. Does KNFB Reader make that easier? Thanks, Donna On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com mailto:kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: It just works. I'm glad I bought it. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary gary.robl...@gmail.com mailto:gary.robl...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, I know. Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration? Gary On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com mailto:came...@cameronstrife.com wrote: $100? Ouch. On 9/19/14, Chris G jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com mailto:jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com wrote: Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina? Chris Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 743-8244 web: www.mysticaccess.com http://www.mysticaccess.com/ Accessible Gadgets mailing list:
Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App
I've been using it on a variety of things and have found the app to be much more reliable in terms of getting good pictures initially, than my attempts with other OCR apps. I'd like to pride myself on being able to take fairly good pictures for OCR purposes but for some reason, I never had good luck or consistency with the other OCR apps. Last night, just for fun and to prove to my husband that the app worked, I took a picture of our television screen from about 8 feet away. It's a 42 inch TV. There was an add on for one of those legal services that sues if you have had some disease or other. The app read most of the text on screen accurately including a phone number and web address. It faltered near the end of the text but I suspect it was scrolling or stylized. It did make an attempt though. To say I was in shock is an understatement. Now I wish I'd saved the scan. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Sep 20, 2014, at 9:39 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: See my last post. Basically, the app comes with features that give you very good feedback while your positioning the camera. Best, Donna On Sep 20, 2014, at 7:44 AM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: HI! ONE THING I'D LIKE TO KNOW IS HOW WOULD ONE KNOW WHERE AND HOW TO HOLD THE CAMERA OVER a paper. Anyone? /A 19 sep 2014 kl. 16:28 skrev 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com: Apparently the app is $100. CB Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB Reader is now available in the iTunes app store. Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance, we have been interested in the development of better and more portable reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus, labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday life, even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of us carry each day provides instant access to the printed word. We can hear our mail or the menu at our favorite restaurant spoken with the iPhone's built-in text-to-speech technology, or read it in Braille with a refreshable Braille display. This app will fundamentally change the everyday lives of many blind people, helping us to get the information we need and live the lives we want. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For
Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App
Hi Have any iPhone 5 users experienced the phone shutting off when you have the KNFB reader opened and on battery power? Mine has shut off at least three times since I bought the app. Matt Dierckens Macintosh Trainer Blind Access Training www.blindaccesstraining.com 1-877-774-7670 ext. 3 Work email:matt...@blindaccesstraining.com Personal email: matt.dierck...@gmail.com On Sep 20, 2014, at 11:04, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote: I've been using it on a variety of things and have found the app to be much more reliable in terms of getting good pictures initially, than my attempts with other OCR apps. I'd like to pride myself on being able to take fairly good pictures for OCR purposes but for some reason, I never had good luck or consistency with the other OCR apps. Last night, just for fun and to prove to my husband that the app worked, I took a picture of our television screen from about 8 feet away. It's a 42 inch TV. There was an add on for one of those legal services that sues if you have had some disease or other. The app read most of the text on screen accurately including a phone number and web address. It faltered near the end of the text but I suspect it was scrolling or stylized. It did make an attempt though. To say I was in shock is an understatement. Now I wish I'd saved the scan. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Sep 20, 2014, at 9:39 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: See my last post. Basically, the app comes with features that give you very good feedback while your positioning the camera. Best, Donna On Sep 20, 2014, at 7:44 AM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: HI! ONE THING I'D LIKE TO KNOW IS HOW WOULD ONE KNOW WHERE AND HOW TO HOLD THE CAMERA OVER a paper. Anyone? /A 19 sep 2014 kl. 16:28 skrev 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com: Apparently the app is $100. CB Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB Reader is now available in the iTunes app store. Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance, we have been interested in the development of better and more portable reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus, labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday life, even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of us carry each day provides instant access to the printed word. We can hear our mail or the menu at our favorite restaurant spoken with the iPhone's built-in text-to-speech technology, or read it in Braille with a refreshable Braille display. This app will fundamentally change the everyday lives of many blind people, helping us to get the information we need and live the lives we want. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at
Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App
All right. Yes, it's all very wonderful The question is: why? Why have all the other apps failed? What's the magic sauce? You know me--well, you do now, anyway--that I'm not going to be happy unless I've established that £69 was worth paying. I'm still not quite convinced that it is, yet. £69 is a lot of money for an iOS app, and my first thought while reading the description was, Yeah, highly anticipated and bloody expensive! Anybody have answers, or even hypotheses? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App
To my mind, there are several magic thingies. First, field of view report. Pretty handy as you learn the right distance and alignment for your pictures. Add the tilt sensor, so you can learn when your phone is flat relative to your document. Second, the KNFB people know that we're pretty lousy at taking pictures. Or, well, variably talented, perhaps. So they've done a lot of work to optimize pictures to account for all the stuff we can't account for, in as much as is possible. I don't think the less expensive apps do either of these things as well. Of course, if you can find something for less that works for you, by all means use that. For my part, I've tried a couple of less expensive alternatives and have found them wanting. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: 814-860-3194 Mobile: 814-431-0962 Email: bu...@brannan.name On Sep 20, 2014, at 11:47 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com wrote: All right. Yes, it's all very wonderful The question is: why? Why have all the other apps failed? What's the magic sauce? You know me--well, you do now, anyway--that I'm not going to be happy unless I've established that £69 was worth paying. I'm still not quite convinced that it is, yet. £69 is a lot of money for an iOS app, and my first thought while reading the description was, Yeah, highly anticipated and bloody expensive! Anybody have answers, or even hypotheses? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Hi! You all tempt me to buy it *lol*. I atempt not to be tempted*lol*. /A 19 sep 2014 kl. 22:21 skrev Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com: Hi Lisette, Wow, that's impressive. I think the podcast pretty much sold me, but your report was the last straw. It's great to finally have an app that can give us reliable OCR wherever we are. thanks for sharing your experience. Best, Donna On Sep 19, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote: Donna, I'm not Kevin but bought the app last night. On my first picture, I got 100 per cent accuracy of an entire credit card statement which obviously has lots of numbers and weird abbreviations. I spent about a minute lining the document up and then took one picture and it was perfect! I never had anything close to that with Prismo, Text Grabber or Text Detective. I rarely got the whole document there, whereas KNFB Reader helps you line it up if you want it to. It also does images and pdf images, so it is definitely worth it for me. I'm now sorry I wasted the money on those others, but it was all there was at the time and they served their purpose. KNFB Reader is now the only OCR app on my phone. It takes about 2 seconds from when the picture is taken to when it starts reading, and I'm using an iPhone 5 at this stage. Good luck with your decision Lisette On 20/09/2014, at 6:28 am, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Kevin, can you say more? I'm kind of on the fence about whether or not to purchase it, but so far I'm not completely happy with either textGrabber or Prizmo. I think the place where I'm going wrong with both those apps is the positioning of the camera. Does KNFB Reader make that easier? Thanks, Donna On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: It just works. I'm glad I bought it. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary gary.robl...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, I know. Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration? Gary On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com wrote: $100? Ouch. On 9/19/14, Chris G jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com wrote: Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina? Chris Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 743-8244 web: www.mysticaccess.com Accessible Gadgets mailing list: http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com Twitter: MysticAccess Twitter: JediKent On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400 Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: I just bought it. I will let you know how it works. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: Apparently the app is $100. CB Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB Reader is now available in the iTunes app store. Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance, we have been interested in the development of better and more portable reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus, labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday life, even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of us carry each day provides instant access to the printed word. We can hear our mail or the menu at our favorite restaurant spoken with the iPhone's built-in text-to-speech technology, or read it in Braille with a refreshable Braille display. This app will fundamentally change the everyday lives of many blind people, helping us to get the information we need and live the lives we want. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this
Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App
I'd agree with Buddy here. I don't recall what resolution this is set to use but I know that I get vastly better results on my flatbed scanner using a higher resolution and the time it takes is imho negligible. I have found things it won't read, very stylized labels, T-shirts and work shirt logos, yes I did try these just for fun. My other issue with the less expensive apps was lighting. I never knew just what the right lighting was save for a direct light shining right on the document. That didn't even work at times. The other thing that frankly is useful about the app is that it speaks the scan right away. When I'm scanning something using a mobile device, I' usually checking it for Id purposes. If I want to scan and save, yes I can do that from the app but usually I'll label whatever it is in braille for more detailed processing later. When I travel, I just want to know shampoo from hand lotion and decaf coffee from regular. This in combination with TapTap See is a must-have for travel imho. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Sep 20, 2014, at 11:58 AM, Buddy Brannan bu...@brannan.name wrote: To my mind, there are several magic thingies. First, field of view report. Pretty handy as you learn the right distance and alignment for your pictures. Add the tilt sensor, so you can learn when your phone is flat relative to your document. Second, the KNFB people know that we're pretty lousy at taking pictures. Or, well, variably talented, perhaps. So they've done a lot of work to optimize pictures to account for all the stuff we can't account for, in as much as is possible. I don't think the less expensive apps do either of these things as well. Of course, if you can find something for less that works for you, by all means use that. For my part, I've tried a couple of less expensive alternatives and have found them wanting. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: 814-860-3194 Mobile: 814-431-0962 Email: bu...@brannan.name On Sep 20, 2014, at 11:47 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com wrote: All right. Yes, it's all very wonderful The question is: why? Why have all the other apps failed? What's the magic sauce? You know me--well, you do now, anyway--that I'm not going to be happy unless I've established that £69 was worth paying. I'm still not quite convinced that it is, yet. £69 is a lot of money for an iOS app, and my first thought while reading the description was, Yeah, highly anticipated and bloody expensive! Anybody have answers, or even hypotheses? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App
Hi Sabahattin, I can only speak for myself on this. I think the secret sauce, as you put it, is the laziness of the user. I have no doubt that, with a good deal of effort, as well as with the possible assistance of sighted friends/family, I could have learned to use Prizmo/text grabber/whatever well enough to obtain decent images. I just didn't want to put the effort in and, given that I am totally blind and have been so from birth, probably end up buying a stand and using the app only when absolutely necessary. Given the fact that I had a scanner for some things, could get along without some things, the results I would get weren't as good as a scanner... You get the idea. I didn't, to adapt Rex Stout, for the same reason I don't walk across the continent to dip my toe in the pacific ocean. The expense and effort are too much for the reward. With the KNFB, the effort is minimal, and the reward either the same as, or greater than, using Prizmo. $100 is hard to get, but it's not hard in the same way as spending a few hours with Prizmo and a sighted person is hard, particularly when the results of doing so are not guaranteed. With the KNFB's field of view report and its tilt guidance, you don't have to think and work to get a decent picture, or at least a picture telling you enough to be getting on with. For me, it's that simple. Two more small points. First, in case it isn't obvious, I don't use the word laziness in criticism. Work is admirable, but reading shouldn't be a painful process. As blind people we put up with quite a bit more effort to do certain things. Some of that is justified, some isn't, but I see no reason not to chop off some labour if I can. Secondly, I'm not saying that the KNFB app is in any way a simple re-working of other apps at a higher price. Thought has gone into it, if not research, and the fact that a sighted person can take a similarly good or better picture with whatever other app is out there doesn't mean the quality of the work by the KNFB folks is any less. Aman On 9/20/14, Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com wrote: All right. Yes, it's all very wonderful The question is: why? Why have all the other apps failed? What's the magic sauce? You know me--well, you do now, anyway--that I'm not going to be happy unless I've established that £69 was worth paying. I'm still not quite convinced that it is, yet. £69 is a lot of money for an iOS app, and my first thought while reading the description was, Yeah, highly anticipated and bloody expensive! Anybody have answers, or even hypotheses? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App
Well, I can certainly agree that assistive isn't always equal to overpriced, and indeed I have owned the flatbed and now own the camera edition Sara, both of which have worked quite well, and with mainstream OCR software and flatbed scanners, really quite excellently. Anything to lower the cost of investment is always useful though. I am hoping to standardise on something that is accurate and realistically caters to my needs, and this app looks very promising going forward. However I do worry that the cost would not be justified if I found another app. I have had all the mentioned apps so far--TextDetective, TextGrabber, and Prizmo--and have not even been able to choose among these three yet, though Prizmo is now the one on my phone. Can anyone suggest ways in which any of these three apps might somehow be improved to match the speed and accuracy of KNFB as it now stands? A difficult question, I know, but I'm hoping someone knows something I don't. This is mostly an exercise in discovery, of course, since I now own all four of them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App
I don't have that app;but I do have the iphone5 with IOS8 and have noticed that my voiceover will turn off randomly. I restored my phone 2 hours ago. Hopefully that problem doesn't persist. Regards, Feliciano www.twitter.com/theblindman12v From: Matt Dierckens Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 8:17 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App Hi Have any iPhone 5 users experienced the phone shutting off when you have the KNFB reader opened and on battery power? Mine has shut off at least three times since I bought the app. Matt Dierckens Macintosh Trainer Blind Access Training www.blindaccesstraining.com 1-877-774-7670 ext. 3 Work email:matt...@blindaccesstraining.com Personal email: matt.dierck...@gmail.com On Sep 20, 2014, at 11:04, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote: I’ve been using it on a variety of things and have found the app to be much more reliable in terms of getting good pictures initially, than my attempts with other OCR apps. I’d like to pride myself on being able to take fairly good pictures for OCR purposes but for some reason, I never had good luck or consistency with the other OCR apps. Last night, just for fun and to prove to my husband that the app worked, I took a picture of our television screen from about 8 feet away. It’s a 42 inch TV. There was an add on for one of those legal services that sues if you have had some disease or other. The app read most of the text on screen accurately including a phone number and web address. It faltered near the end of the text but I suspect it was scrolling or stylized. It did make an attempt though. To say I was in shock is an understatement. Now I wish I’d saved the scan. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Sep 20, 2014, at 9:39 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: See my last post. Basically, the app comes with features that give you very good feedback while your positioning the camera. Best, Donna On Sep 20, 2014, at 7:44 AM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: HI! ONE THING I'D LIKE TO KNOW IS HOW WOULD ONE KNOW WHERE AND HOW TO HOLD THE CAMERA OVER a paper. Anyone? /A 19 sep 2014 kl. 16:28 skrev 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com: Apparently the app is $100. CB Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the Blind, the nation’s leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone’s camera and state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB Reader is now available in the iTunes app store. Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: “The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance, we have been interested in the development of better and more portable reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus, labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday life, even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of us carry each day provides instant access to the printed word. We can hear our mail or the menu at our favorite restaurant spoken with the iPhone’s built-in text-to-speech technology, or read it in Braille with a refreshable Braille display. This app will fundamentally change the everyday lives of many blind people, helping us to get the information we need and live the lives we want.” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries
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I can tell you, as can other folks here, from personal experience, that the app is bloody well worth it mate. I can't decide for you, that's something you have to do for yourself. IF you get the app, and you feel like it isn't worth it, Apple will refund the purchase price. Very easy and totally accessible process. But for me, and many others here, if this thread alone is anything to judge by, the results one gets with this app verses ALL, OTHER, OCR apps, makes the KNFB app very well worth it. Sincerely, the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus! On Sep 20, 2014, at 10:47 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com wrote: All right. Yes, it's all very wonderful The question is: why? Why have all the other apps failed? What's the magic sauce? You know me--well, you do now, anyway--that I'm not going to be happy unless I've established that £69 was worth paying. I'm still not quite convinced that it is, yet. £69 is a lot of money for an iOS app, and my first thought while reading the description was, Yeah, highly anticipated and bloody expensive! Anybody have answers, or even hypotheses? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App
Well, I am going to pile on big time. Buy it mate. You will not regret the purchase. Best app I ever ever ever put on my iPhone 5!!! My flat bed scanning days are through!!! Sincerely, the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus! On Sep 20, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: Hi! You all tempt me to buy it *lol*. I atempt not to be tempted*lol*. /A 19 sep 2014 kl. 22:21 skrev Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com: Hi Lisette, Wow, that's impressive. I think the podcast pretty much sold me, but your report was the last straw. It's great to finally have an app that can give us reliable OCR wherever we are. thanks for sharing your experience. Best, Donna On Sep 19, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote: Donna, I'm not Kevin but bought the app last night. On my first picture, I got 100 per cent accuracy of an entire credit card statement which obviously has lots of numbers and weird abbreviations. I spent about a minute lining the document up and then took one picture and it was perfect! I never had anything close to that with Prismo, Text Grabber or Text Detective. I rarely got the whole document there, whereas KNFB Reader helps you line it up if you want it to. It also does images and pdf images, so it is definitely worth it for me. I'm now sorry I wasted the money on those others, but it was all there was at the time and they served their purpose. KNFB Reader is now the only OCR app on my phone. It takes about 2 seconds from when the picture is taken to when it starts reading, and I'm using an iPhone 5 at this stage. Good luck with your decision Lisette On 20/09/2014, at 6:28 am, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Kevin, can you say more? I'm kind of on the fence about whether or not to purchase it, but so far I'm not completely happy with either textGrabber or Prizmo. I think the place where I'm going wrong with both those apps is the positioning of the camera. Does KNFB Reader make that easier? Thanks, Donna On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: It just works. I'm glad I bought it. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary gary.robl...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, I know. Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration? Gary On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com wrote: $100? Ouch. On 9/19/14, Chris G jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com wrote: Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina? Chris Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 743-8244 web: www.mysticaccess.com Accessible Gadgets mailing list: http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com Twitter: MysticAccess Twitter: JediKent On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400 Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: I just bought it. I will let you know how it works. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: Apparently the app is $100. CB Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB Reader is now available in the iTunes app store. Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance, we have been interested in the development of better and more portable reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus, labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday life, even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of us carry each day provides instant access to the printed word. We can hear our mail or the menu at our favorite restaurant spoken with the iPhone's built-in
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Not yet, but I only got the app yesterday. Donna On Sep 20, 2014, at 10:17 AM, Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Have any iPhone 5 users experienced the phone shutting off when you have the KNFB reader opened and on battery power? Mine has shut off at least three times since I bought the app. Matt Dierckens Macintosh Trainer Blind Access Training www.blindaccesstraining.com 1-877-774-7670 ext. 3 Work email:matt...@blindaccesstraining.com Personal email: matt.dierck...@gmail.com On Sep 20, 2014, at 11:04, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote: I've been using it on a variety of things and have found the app to be much more reliable in terms of getting good pictures initially, than my attempts with other OCR apps. I'd like to pride myself on being able to take fairly good pictures for OCR purposes but for some reason, I never had good luck or consistency with the other OCR apps. Last night, just for fun and to prove to my husband that the app worked, I took a picture of our television screen from about 8 feet away. It's a 42 inch TV. There was an add on for one of those legal services that sues if you have had some disease or other. The app read most of the text on screen accurately including a phone number and web address. It faltered near the end of the text but I suspect it was scrolling or stylized. It did make an attempt though. To say I was in shock is an understatement. Now I wish I'd saved the scan. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Sep 20, 2014, at 9:39 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: See my last post. Basically, the app comes with features that give you very good feedback while your positioning the camera. Best, Donna On Sep 20, 2014, at 7:44 AM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: HI! ONE THING I'D LIKE TO KNOW IS HOW WOULD ONE KNOW WHERE AND HOW TO HOLD THE CAMERA OVER a paper. Anyone? /A 19 sep 2014 kl. 16:28 skrev 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com: Apparently the app is $100. CB Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB Reader is now available in the iTunes app store. Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance, we have been interested in the development of better and more portable reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus, labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday life, even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of us carry each day provides instant access to the printed word. We can hear our mail or the menu at our favorite restaurant spoken with the iPhone's built-in text-to-speech technology, or read it in Braille with a refreshable Braille display. This app will fundamentally change the everyday lives of many blind people, helping us to get the information we need and live the lives we want. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
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Hello all! I am trying to find KNFB Reader APP for my iphone, but I can't find it, can somebody please share the link? Thanks in advance! Daniela Rubio T iPhone: +34662328507 El 20/09/2014, a las 19:44, Feliciano G theblindman...@hotmail.com escribió: I don't have that app;but I do have the iphone5 with IOS8 and have noticed that my voiceover will turn off randomly. I restored my phone 2 hours ago. Hopefully that problem doesn't persist. Regards, Feliciano www.twitter.com/theblindman12v From: Matt Dierckens Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 8:17 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App Hi Have any iPhone 5 users experienced the phone shutting off when you have the KNFB reader opened and on battery power? Mine has shut off at least three times since I bought the app. Matt Dierckens Macintosh Trainer Blind Access Training www.blindaccesstraining.com 1-877-774-7670 ext. 3 Work email:matt...@blindaccesstraining.com Personal email: matt.dierck...@gmail.com On Sep 20, 2014, at 11:04, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote: I've been using it on a variety of things and have found the app to be much more reliable in terms of getting good pictures initially, than my attempts with other OCR apps. I'd like to pride myself on being able to take fairly good pictures for OCR purposes but for some reason, I never had good luck or consistency with the other OCR apps. Last night, just for fun and to prove to my husband that the app worked, I took a picture of our television screen from about 8 feet away. It's a 42 inch TV. There was an add on for one of those legal services that sues if you have had some disease or other. The app read most of the text on screen accurately including a phone number and web address. It faltered near the end of the text but I suspect it was scrolling or stylized. It did make an attempt though. To say I was in shock is an understatement. Now I wish I'd saved the scan. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Sep 20, 2014, at 9:39 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: See my last post. Basically, the app comes with features that give you very good feedback while your positioning the camera. Best, Donna On Sep 20, 2014, at 7:44 AM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: HI! ONE THING I'D LIKE TO KNOW IS HOW WOULD ONE KNOW WHERE AND HOW TO HOLD THE CAMERA OVER a paper. Anyone? /A 19 sep 2014 kl. 16:28 skrev 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com: Apparently the app is $100. CB Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB Reader is now available in the iTunes app store. Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance, we have been interested in the development of better and more portable reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus, labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday life, even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of us carry each day provides instant access to the printed word. We can hear our mail or the menu at our favorite restaurant spoken with the iPhone's built-in text-to-speech technology, or read it in Braille with a refreshable Braille display. This app will fundamentally change the everyday lives of many blind people, helping us to get the information we need and live the lives we want. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App
Hi there I had to go to applevis.com because when I searched at the Apple Store app for the iPhone, I got the wrong thing. Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2014, at 3:29 PM, Daniela Rubio mabuha...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all! I am trying to find KNFB Reader APP for my iphone, but I can’t find it, can somebody please share the link? Thanks in advance! Daniela Rubio T iPhone: +34662328507 El 20/09/2014, a las 19:44, Feliciano G theblindman...@hotmail.com escribió: I don't have that app;but I do have the iphone5 with IOS8 and have noticed that my voiceover will turn off randomly. I restored my phone 2 hours ago. Hopefully that problem doesn't persist. Regards, Feliciano www.twitter.com/theblindman12v From: Matt Dierckens Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 8:17 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App Hi Have any iPhone 5 users experienced the phone shutting off when you have the KNFB reader opened and on battery power? Mine has shut off at least three times since I bought the app. Matt Dierckens Macintosh Trainer Blind Access Training www.blindaccesstraining.com 1-877-774-7670 ext. 3 Work email:matt...@blindaccesstraining.com Personal email: matt.dierck...@gmail.com On Sep 20, 2014, at 11:04, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote: I’ve been using it on a variety of things and have found the app to be much more reliable in terms of getting good pictures initially, than my attempts with other OCR apps. I’d like to pride myself on being able to take fairly good pictures for OCR purposes but for some reason, I never had good luck or consistency with the other OCR apps. Last night, just for fun and to prove to my husband that the app worked, I took a picture of our television screen from about 8 feet away. It’s a 42 inch TV. There was an add on for one of those legal services that sues if you have had some disease or other. The app read most of the text on screen accurately including a phone number and web address. It faltered near the end of the text but I suspect it was scrolling or stylized. It did make an attempt though. To say I was in shock is an understatement. Now I wish I’d saved the scan. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Sep 20, 2014, at 9:39 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: See my last post. Basically, the app comes with features that give you very good feedback while your positioning the camera. Best, Donna On Sep 20, 2014, at 7:44 AM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: HI! ONE THING I'D LIKE TO KNOW IS HOW WOULD ONE KNOW WHERE AND HOW TO HOLD THE CAMERA OVER a paper. Anyone? /A 19 sep 2014 kl. 16:28 skrev 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com: Apparently the app is $100. CB Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the Blind, the nation’s leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone’s camera and state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB Reader is now available in the iTunes app store. Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: “The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance, we have been interested in the development of better and more portable reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus, labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday life, even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of us carry each day provides instant access to the printed word. We can hear our mail or the menu at our favorite restaurant spoken with the iPhone’s built-in text-to-speech technology, or read it in Braille with a refreshable Braille display. This app will fundamentally change the everyday lives of many blind people, helping us to get the information we need and live the lives we want.” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email
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They do more then just take a picture. They have algorithms that take into account the user can't see the page, other OCR apps assume you can see the page. Also they can compensate for lighting as again, they assume the user doesn't really know the kind of light that is around. There was an applevis special report where they talk to Jim from KNFB reader and they talk about what sets KNFB Reader apart from the other apps. Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 743-8244 web: www.mysticaccess.com Accessible Gadgets mailing list: http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com Twitter: MysticAccess Twitter: JediKent On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 16:47:28 +0100 Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com wrote: All right. Yes, it's all very wonderful The question is: why? Why have all the other apps failed? What's the magic sauce? You know me--well, you do now, anyway--that I'm not going to be happy unless I've established that £69 was worth paying. I'm still not quite convinced that it is, yet. £69 is a lot of money for an iOS app, and my first thought while reading the description was, Yeah, highly anticipated and bloody expensive! Anybody have answers, or even hypotheses? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 743-8244 web: www.mysticaccess.com Accessible Gadgets mailing list: http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com Twitter: MysticAccess Twitter: JediKent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App
Hi there Well lazy me did something else. I put my Mac on my lap and shut it, and then sorted my Mail sitting in my recliner. I wasn't sure that was going to work but it did work quite fine. I am finding the level indicator to be a lot more helpful than the review function. Maybe it's just me since I just got it today, but by the time I tell it to scan again I have to be very careful not to change my position. Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2014, at 9:23 AM, Rob Bender rbende...@gmail.com wrote: I also bought the app after hearing the Applevis podcast and reading about the results from others on the list. I had the opportunity to borrow a Nokia phone with the old KNFB app 4 or 5 years ago and was only ever able to get a few words from a page. I was able to sit at the kitchen table and sort the mail just after buying the new app. It is definitely better than the old app since the field of view report and the tilt notification are a great help in lining up the camera. I will add that I had not been able to get good results with the other OCR apps for the iPhone since I was horrible at lining up the camera. It really seems that they did a great job on writing an app which compensates for blind users. I plan to try more documents today. On Sep 20, 2014, at 6:00 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Pete You may have answered this already, but I once tried the KNFB reader that a friend had on his Windows phone. I couldn't get the thing to line up and I got the worst text you ever saw. Obviously, you got it to line up with the restaurant menu, and I'm really impressed about that. I have heard there is an option on this new program to find the line up. How sloppy can you be to line up the text and have the text come out good? I hope my question makes sense. I know a lot of people got the old one to work, but I was hopeless with it. So, did you ever use the old one, and is it, in your opinion, better than it was? Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2014, at 1:58 AM, peter Apgar pap...@gmavt.net wrote: Best app I've ever purchased! I to believe that this works better then desktop scanning programs. First day with it was today. First try at a restaurant scored the entire menu perfectly Pete Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 3:41 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Frankly, I could not agree more!!! My flat bed scanning days are through: or just about anyhow. I never got such good results with the other OCR apps. Not even with Abby Fine Reader Text Grabber, which is kinda sorta okay. The KNFB reader is where it's at if you want it to be both fast and accurate. Yes, it does help you angle the camra just right. I didn't realize, until I started using the KNFB reader app that I was always angling the camra lens much too far upward. Sincerely, the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus! On Sep 19, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote: Donna, I'm not Kevin but bought the app last night. On my first picture, I got 100 per cent accuracy of an entire credit card statement which obviously has lots of numbers and weird abbreviations. I spent about a minute lining the document up and then took one picture and it was perfect! I never had anything close to that with Prismo, Text Grabber or Text Detective. I rarely got the whole document there, whereas KNFB Reader helps you line it up if you want it to. It also does images and pdf images, so it is definitely worth it for me. I'm now sorry I wasted the money on those others, but it was all there was at the time and they served their purpose. KNFB Reader is now the only OCR app on my phone. It takes about 2 seconds from when the picture is taken to when it starts reading, and I'm using an iPhone 5 at this stage. Good luck with your decision Lisette On 20/09/2014, at 6:28 am, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Kevin, can you say more? I'm kind of on the fence about whether or not to purchase it, but so far I'm not completely happy with either textGrabber or Prizmo. I think the place where I'm going wrong with both those apps is the positioning of the camera. Does KNFB Reader make that easier? Thanks, Donna On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: It just works. I'm glad I bought it. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary gary.robl...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, I know. Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration? Gary On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com wrote: $100? Ouch. On 9/19/14, Chris G jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com wrote: Has anyone bought it for the
Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App
GiGi, that’s the beauty of the tilt function. I’m usually fairly good at balancing the phone but if I do more than one scan of something in the same spot, such as just moving another piece of mail under it, I tend to tip the phone. The thing that confuses me at times is the clock face orientation. I have to tell myself that it is reporting the position of the material under the phone and that I should turn the phone in that direction until it says 0. For some weird reason my brain conjured that this was the orientation of the phone itself when looking at the image and that I must turn the phone in the opposite direction to reorient. Where that came from I have no idea. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Sep 20, 2014, at 4:59 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there Well lazy me did something else. I put my Mac on my lap and shut it, and then sorted my Mail sitting in my recliner. I wasn't sure that was going to work but it did work quite fine. I am finding the level indicator to be a lot more helpful than the review function. Maybe it's just me since I just got it today, but by the time I tell it to scan again I have to be very careful not to change my position. Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2014, at 9:23 AM, Rob Bender rbende...@gmail.com wrote: I also bought the app after hearing the Applevis podcast and reading about the results from others on the list. I had the opportunity to borrow a Nokia phone with the old KNFB app 4 or 5 years ago and was only ever able to get a few words from a page. I was able to sit at the kitchen table and sort the mail just after buying the new app. It is definitely better than the old app since the field of view report and the tilt notification are a great help in lining up the camera. I will add that I had not been able to get good results with the other OCR apps for the iPhone since I was horrible at lining up the camera. It really seems that they did a great job on writing an app which compensates for blind users. I plan to try more documents today. On Sep 20, 2014, at 6:00 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Pete You may have answered this already, but I once tried the KNFB reader that a friend had on his Windows phone. I couldn't get the thing to line up and I got the worst text you ever saw. Obviously, you got it to line up with the restaurant menu, and I'm really impressed about that. I have heard there is an option on this new program to find the line up. How sloppy can you be to line up the text and have the text come out good? I hope my question makes sense. I know a lot of people got the old one to work, but I was hopeless with it. So, did you ever use the old one, and is it, in your opinion, better than it was? Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2014, at 1:58 AM, peter Apgar pap...@gmavt.net wrote: Best app I've ever purchased! I to believe that this works better then desktop scanning programs. First day with it was today. First try at a restaurant scored the entire menu perfectly Pete Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 3:41 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Frankly, I could not agree more!!! My flat bed scanning days are through: or just about anyhow. I never got such good results with the other OCR apps. Not even with Abby Fine Reader Text Grabber, which is kinda sorta okay. The KNFB reader is where it's at if you want it to be both fast and accurate. Yes, it does help you angle the camra just right. I didn't realize, until I started using the KNFB reader app that I was always angling the camra lens much too far upward. Sincerely, the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus! On Sep 19, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote: Donna, I'm not Kevin but bought the app last night. On my first picture, I got 100 per cent accuracy of an entire credit card statement which obviously has lots of numbers and weird abbreviations. I spent about a minute lining the document up and then took one picture and it was perfect! I never had anything close to that with Prismo, Text Grabber or Text Detective. I rarely got the whole document there, whereas KNFB Reader helps you line it up if you want it to. It also does images and pdf images, so it is definitely worth it for me. I'm now sorry I wasted the money on those others, but it was all there was at the time and they served their purpose. KNFB Reader is now the only OCR app on my phone. It takes about 2 seconds from when the picture is taken to when it starts reading, and I'm using an iPhone 5 at this stage. Good luck with your decision Lisette On 20/09/2014, at 6:28 am, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com
Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App
Hi! By the way. Can you use it with ios 7? Or do i have to upgrade? /A 20 sep 2014 kl. 22:47 skrev Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com: Hi there I had to go to applevis.com because when I searched at the Apple Store app for the iPhone, I got the wrong thing. Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2014, at 3:29 PM, Daniela Rubio mabuha...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all! I am trying to find KNFB Reader APP for my iphone, but I can't find it, can somebody please share the link? Thanks in advance! Daniela Rubio T iPhone: +34662328507 El 20/09/2014, a las 19:44, Feliciano G theblindman...@hotmail.com escribió: I don't have that app;but I do have the iphone5 with IOS8 and have noticed that my voiceover will turn off randomly. I restored my phone 2 hours ago. Hopefully that problem doesn't persist. Regards, Feliciano www.twitter.com/theblindman12v From: Matt Dierckens Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 8:17 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App Hi Have any iPhone 5 users experienced the phone shutting off when you have the KNFB reader opened and on battery power? Mine has shut off at least three times since I bought the app. Matt Dierckens Macintosh Trainer Blind Access Training www.blindaccesstraining.com 1-877-774-7670 ext. 3 Work email:matt...@blindaccesstraining.com Personal email: matt.dierck...@gmail.com On Sep 20, 2014, at 11:04, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote: I've been using it on a variety of things and have found the app to be much more reliable in terms of getting good pictures initially, than my attempts with other OCR apps. I'd like to pride myself on being able to take fairly good pictures for OCR purposes but for some reason, I never had good luck or consistency with the other OCR apps. Last night, just for fun and to prove to my husband that the app worked, I took a picture of our television screen from about 8 feet away. It's a 42 inch TV. There was an add on for one of those legal services that sues if you have had some disease or other. The app read most of the text on screen accurately including a phone number and web address. It faltered near the end of the text but I suspect it was scrolling or stylized. It did make an attempt though. To say I was in shock is an understatement. Now I wish I'd saved the scan. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Sep 20, 2014, at 9:39 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: See my last post. Basically, the app comes with features that give you very good feedback while your positioning the camera. Best, Donna On Sep 20, 2014, at 7:44 AM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: HI! ONE THING I'D LIKE TO KNOW IS HOW WOULD ONE KNOW WHERE AND HOW TO HOLD THE CAMERA OVER a paper. Anyone? /A 19 sep 2014 kl. 16:28 skrev 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com: Apparently the app is $100. CB Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB Reader is now available in the iTunes app store. Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance, we have been interested in the development of better and more portable reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus, labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday life, even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of us carry each day provides instant access to the printed word. We can hear our mail or the menu at our favorite restaurant spoken with the iPhone's built-in text-to-speech technology, or read it in Braille with a refreshable Braille display. This app will fundamentally change the everyday lives of many blind people, helping us to get the information we need and live the lives we want. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving
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Hi! So you have to have the phone or paper in the right clock direction. It can't turn the page virtually in the app. /A 20 sep 2014 kl. 23:03 skrev Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com: GiGi, that’s the beauty of the tilt function. I’m usually fairly good at balancing the phone but if I do more than one scan of something in the same spot, such as just moving another piece of mail under it, I tend to tip the phone. The thing that confuses me at times is the clock face orientation. I have to tell myself that it is reporting the position of the material under the phone and that I should turn the phone in that direction until it says 0. For some weird reason my brain conjured that this was the orientation of the phone itself when looking at the image and that I must turn the phone in the opposite direction to reorient. Where that came from I have no idea. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Sep 20, 2014, at 4:59 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there Well lazy me did something else. I put my Mac on my lap and shut it, and then sorted my Mail sitting in my recliner. I wasn't sure that was going to work but it did work quite fine. I am finding the level indicator to be a lot more helpful than the review function. Maybe it's just me since I just got it today, but by the time I tell it to scan again I have to be very careful not to change my position. Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2014, at 9:23 AM, Rob Bender rbende...@gmail.com wrote: I also bought the app after hearing the Applevis podcast and reading about the results from others on the list. I had the opportunity to borrow a Nokia phone with the old KNFB app 4 or 5 years ago and was only ever able to get a few words from a page. I was able to sit at the kitchen table and sort the mail just after buying the new app. It is definitely better than the old app since the field of view report and the tilt notification are a great help in lining up the camera. I will add that I had not been able to get good results with the other OCR apps for the iPhone since I was horrible at lining up the camera. It really seems that they did a great job on writing an app which compensates for blind users. I plan to try more documents today. On Sep 20, 2014, at 6:00 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Pete You may have answered this already, but I once tried the KNFB reader that a friend had on his Windows phone. I couldn't get the thing to line up and I got the worst text you ever saw. Obviously, you got it to line up with the restaurant menu, and I'm really impressed about that. I have heard there is an option on this new program to find the line up. How sloppy can you be to line up the text and have the text come out good? I hope my question makes sense. I know a lot of people got the old one to work, but I was hopeless with it. So, did you ever use the old one, and is it, in your opinion, better than it was? Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2014, at 1:58 AM, peter Apgar pap...@gmavt.net wrote: Best app I've ever purchased! I to believe that this works better then desktop scanning programs. First day with it was today. First try at a restaurant scored the entire menu perfectly Pete Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 3:41 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Frankly, I could not agree more!!! My flat bed scanning days are through: or just about anyhow. I never got such good results with the other OCR apps. Not even with Abby Fine Reader Text Grabber, which is kinda sorta okay. The KNFB reader is where it's at if you want it to be both fast and accurate. Yes, it does help you angle the camra just right. I didn't realize, until I started using the KNFB reader app that I was always angling the camra lens much too far upward. Sincerely, the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus! On Sep 19, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote: Donna, I'm not Kevin but bought the app last night. On my first picture, I got 100 per cent accuracy of an entire credit card statement which obviously has lots of numbers and weird abbreviations. I spent about a minute lining the document up and then took one picture and it was perfect! I never had anything close to that with Prismo, Text Grabber or Text Detective. I rarely got the whole document there, whereas KNFB Reader helps you line it up if you want it to. It also does images and pdf images, so it is definitely worth it for me. I'm now sorry I wasted the money on those others, but it was all there was at the time and they served their purpose. KNFB Reader is now the only OCR app on my phone. It takes about 2 seconds
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It works fine with iOS 7. That is what I am running. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2014, at 5:07 PM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: Hi! By the way. Can you use it with ios 7? Or do i have to upgrade? /A 20 sep 2014 kl. 22:47 skrev Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com: Hi there I had to go to applevis.com because when I searched at the Apple Store app for the iPhone, I got the wrong thing. Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2014, at 3:29 PM, Daniela Rubio mabuha...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all! I am trying to find KNFB Reader APP for my iphone, but I can’t find it, can somebody please share the link? Thanks in advance! Daniela Rubio T iPhone: +34662328507 El 20/09/2014, a las 19:44, Feliciano G theblindman...@hotmail.com escribió: I don't have that app;but I do have the iphone5 with IOS8 and have noticed that my voiceover will turn off randomly. I restored my phone 2 hours ago. Hopefully that problem doesn't persist. Regards, Feliciano www.twitter.com/theblindman12v From: Matt Dierckens Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 8:17 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App Hi Have any iPhone 5 users experienced the phone shutting off when you have the KNFB reader opened and on battery power? Mine has shut off at least three times since I bought the app. Matt Dierckens Macintosh Trainer Blind Access Training www.blindaccesstraining.com 1-877-774-7670 ext. 3 Work email:matt...@blindaccesstraining.com Personal email: matt.dierck...@gmail.com On Sep 20, 2014, at 11:04, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote: I’ve been using it on a variety of things and have found the app to be much more reliable in terms of getting good pictures initially, than my attempts with other OCR apps. I’d like to pride myself on being able to take fairly good pictures for OCR purposes but for some reason, I never had good luck or consistency with the other OCR apps. Last night, just for fun and to prove to my husband that the app worked, I took a picture of our television screen from about 8 feet away. It’s a 42 inch TV. There was an add on for one of those legal services that sues if you have had some disease or other. The app read most of the text on screen accurately including a phone number and web address. It faltered near the end of the text but I suspect it was scrolling or stylized. It did make an attempt though. To say I was in shock is an understatement. Now I wish I’d saved the scan. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Sep 20, 2014, at 9:39 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: See my last post. Basically, the app comes with features that give you very good feedback while your positioning the camera. Best, Donna On Sep 20, 2014, at 7:44 AM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: HI! ONE THING I'D LIKE TO KNOW IS HOW WOULD ONE KNOW WHERE AND HOW TO HOLD THE CAMERA OVER a paper. Anyone? /A 19 sep 2014 kl. 16:28 skrev 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com: Apparently the app is $100. CB Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the Blind, the nation’s leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone’s camera and state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB Reader is now available in the iTunes app store. Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: “The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance, we have been interested in the development of better and more portable reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus, labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday life, even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of us carry each day provides instant access to the printed word. We can hear our mail or the menu at our favorite restaurant spoken with the iPhone’s built-in text-to-speech technology, or read it in Braille with a refreshable Braille display. This app will fundamentally change the everyday lives of many blind people, helping us to get the information we need and live
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It can, but if you want best resultsuse the tools given. Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 743-8244 web: www.mysticaccess.com Accessible Gadgets mailing list: http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com Twitter: MysticAccess Twitter: JediKent On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 23:09:58 +0200 Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: Hi! So you have to have the phone or paper in the right clock direction. It can't turn the page virtually in the app. /A 20 sep 2014 kl. 23:03 skrev Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com: GiGi, that's the beauty of the tilt function. I'm usually fairly good at balancing the phone but if I do more than one scan of something in the same spot, such as just moving another piece of mail under it, I tend to tip the phone. The thing that confuses me at times is the clock face orientation. I have to tell myself that it is reporting the position of the material under the phone and that I should turn the phone in that direction until it says 0. For some weird reason my brain conjured that this was the orientation of the phone itself when looking at the image and that I must turn the phone in the opposite direction to reorient. Where that came from I have no idea. ?? Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Sep 20, 2014, at 4:59 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there Well lazy me did something else. I put my Mac on my lap and shut it, and then sorted my Mail sitting in my recliner. I wasn't sure that was going to work but it did work quite fine. I am finding the level indicator to be a lot more helpful than the review function. Maybe it's just me since I just got it today, but by the time I tell it to scan again I have to be very careful not to change my position. Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2014, at 9:23 AM, Rob Bender rbende...@gmail.com wrote: I also bought the app after hearing the Applevis podcast and reading about the results from others on the list. I had the opportunity to borrow a Nokia phone with the old KNFB app 4 or 5 years ago and was only ever able to get a few words from a page. I was able to sit at the kitchen table and sort the mail just after buying the new app. It is definitely better than the old app since the field of view report and the tilt notification are a great help in lining up the camera. I will add that I had not been able to get good results with the other OCR apps for the iPhone since I was horrible at lining up the camera. It really seems that they did a great job on writing an app which compensates for blind users. I plan to try more documents today. On Sep 20, 2014, at 6:00 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Pete You may have answered this already, but I once tried the KNFB reader that a friend had on his Windows phone. I couldn't get the thing to line up and I got the worst text you ever saw. Obviously, you got it to line up with the restaurant menu, and I'm really impressed about that. I have heard there is an option on this new program to find the line up. How sloppy can you be to line up the text and have the text come out good? I hope my question makes sense. I know a lot of people got the old one to work, but I was hopeless with it. So, did you ever use the old one, and is it, in your opinion, better than it was? Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2014, at 1:58 AM, peter Apgar pap...@gmavt.net wrote: Best app I've ever purchased! I to believe that this works better then desktop scanning programs. First day with it was today. First try at a restaurant scored the entire menu perfectly Pete Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 3:41 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Frankly, I could not agree more!!! My flat bed scanning days are through: or just about anyhow. I never got such good results with the other OCR apps. Not even with Abby Fine Reader Text Grabber, which is kinda sorta okay. The KNFB reader is where it's at if you want it to be both fast and accurate. Yes, it does help you angle the camra just right. I didn't realize, until I started using the KNFB reader app that I was always angling the camra lens much too far upward. Sincerely, the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus! On Sep 19, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote: Donna, I'm not Kevin but bought the app last night. On my first picture, I got 100 per cent accuracy of an entire credit card statement which obviously has lots of
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This is incorrect. It can of course flip the page right side up if it’s upside down and so on, but of course it works best when you’re aligned the same way as your document. — Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: 814-860-3194 Mobile: 814-431-0962 Email: bu...@brannan.name On Sep 20, 2014, at 5:09 PM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: Hi! So you have to have the phone or paper in the right clock direction. It can't turn the page virtually in the app. /A 20 sep 2014 kl. 23:03 skrev Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com: GiGi, that’s the beauty of the tilt function. I’m usually fairly good at balancing the phone but if I do more than one scan of something in the same spot, such as just moving another piece of mail under it, I tend to tip the phone. The thing that confuses me at times is the clock face orientation. I have to tell myself that it is reporting the position of the material under the phone and that I should turn the phone in that direction until it says 0. For some weird reason my brain conjured that this was the orientation of the phone itself when looking at the image and that I must turn the phone in the opposite direction to reorient. Where that came from I have no idea. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Sep 20, 2014, at 4:59 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there Well lazy me did something else. I put my Mac on my lap and shut it, and then sorted my Mail sitting in my recliner. I wasn't sure that was going to work but it did work quite fine. I am finding the level indicator to be a lot more helpful than the review function. Maybe it's just me since I just got it today, but by the time I tell it to scan again I have to be very careful not to change my position. Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2014, at 9:23 AM, Rob Bender rbende...@gmail.com wrote: I also bought the app after hearing the Applevis podcast and reading about the results from others on the list. I had the opportunity to borrow a Nokia phone with the old KNFB app 4 or 5 years ago and was only ever able to get a few words from a page. I was able to sit at the kitchen table and sort the mail just after buying the new app. It is definitely better than the old app since the field of view report and the tilt notification are a great help in lining up the camera. I will add that I had not been able to get good results with the other OCR apps for the iPhone since I was horrible at lining up the camera. It really seems that they did a great job on writing an app which compensates for blind users. I plan to try more documents today. On Sep 20, 2014, at 6:00 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Pete You may have answered this already, but I once tried the KNFB reader that a friend had on his Windows phone. I couldn't get the thing to line up and I got the worst text you ever saw. Obviously, you got it to line up with the restaurant menu, and I'm really impressed about that. I have heard there is an option on this new program to find the line up. How sloppy can you be to line up the text and have the text come out good? I hope my question makes sense. I know a lot of people got the old one to work, but I was hopeless with it. So, did you ever use the old one, and is it, in your opinion, better than it was? Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2014, at 1:58 AM, peter Apgar pap...@gmavt.net wrote: Best app I've ever purchased! I to believe that this works better then desktop scanning programs. First day with it was today. First try at a restaurant scored the entire menu perfectly Pete Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 3:41 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Frankly, I could not agree more!!! My flat bed scanning days are through: or just about anyhow. I never got such good results with the other OCR apps. Not even with Abby Fine Reader Text Grabber, which is kinda sorta okay. The KNFB reader is where it's at if you want it to be both fast and accurate. Yes, it does help you angle the camra just right. I didn't realize, until I started using the KNFB reader app that I was always angling the camra lens much too far upward. Sincerely, the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus! On Sep 19, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote: Donna, I'm not Kevin but bought the app last night. On my first picture, I got 100 per cent accuracy of an entire credit card statement which obviously has lots of numbers and weird abbreviations. I spent about a minute lining the document up and then took one picture and it was perfect! I never had anything close to that with Prismo, Text Grabber or Text Detective. I
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I’ve had the phone turned up to 18 degrees off center and it’s worked just fine so I think it really depends on the clarity of text. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Sep 20, 2014, at 5:09 PM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: Hi! So you have to have the phone or paper in the right clock direction. It can't turn the page virtually in the app. /A 20 sep 2014 kl. 23:03 skrev Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com: GiGi, that’s the beauty of the tilt function. I’m usually fairly good at balancing the phone but if I do more than one scan of something in the same spot, such as just moving another piece of mail under it, I tend to tip the phone. The thing that confuses me at times is the clock face orientation. I have to tell myself that it is reporting the position of the material under the phone and that I should turn the phone in that direction until it says 0. For some weird reason my brain conjured that this was the orientation of the phone itself when looking at the image and that I must turn the phone in the opposite direction to reorient. Where that came from I have no idea. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Sep 20, 2014, at 4:59 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there Well lazy me did something else. I put my Mac on my lap and shut it, and then sorted my Mail sitting in my recliner. I wasn't sure that was going to work but it did work quite fine. I am finding the level indicator to be a lot more helpful than the review function. Maybe it's just me since I just got it today, but by the time I tell it to scan again I have to be very careful not to change my position. Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2014, at 9:23 AM, Rob Bender rbende...@gmail.com wrote: I also bought the app after hearing the Applevis podcast and reading about the results from others on the list. I had the opportunity to borrow a Nokia phone with the old KNFB app 4 or 5 years ago and was only ever able to get a few words from a page. I was able to sit at the kitchen table and sort the mail just after buying the new app. It is definitely better than the old app since the field of view report and the tilt notification are a great help in lining up the camera. I will add that I had not been able to get good results with the other OCR apps for the iPhone since I was horrible at lining up the camera. It really seems that they did a great job on writing an app which compensates for blind users. I plan to try more documents today. On Sep 20, 2014, at 6:00 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Pete You may have answered this already, but I once tried the KNFB reader that a friend had on his Windows phone. I couldn't get the thing to line up and I got the worst text you ever saw. Obviously, you got it to line up with the restaurant menu, and I'm really impressed about that. I have heard there is an option on this new program to find the line up. How sloppy can you be to line up the text and have the text come out good? I hope my question makes sense. I know a lot of people got the old one to work, but I was hopeless with it. So, did you ever use the old one, and is it, in your opinion, better than it was? Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2014, at 1:58 AM, peter Apgar pap...@gmavt.net wrote: Best app I've ever purchased! I to believe that this works better then desktop scanning programs. First day with it was today. First try at a restaurant scored the entire menu perfectly Pete Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 3:41 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Frankly, I could not agree more!!! My flat bed scanning days are through: or just about anyhow. I never got such good results with the other OCR apps. Not even with Abby Fine Reader Text Grabber, which is kinda sorta okay. The KNFB reader is where it's at if you want it to be both fast and accurate. Yes, it does help you angle the camra just right. I didn't realize, until I started using the KNFB reader app that I was always angling the camra lens much too far upward. Sincerely, the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus! On Sep 19, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote: Donna, I'm not Kevin but bought the app last night. On my first picture, I got 100 per cent accuracy of an entire credit card statement which obviously has lots of numbers and weird abbreviations. I spent about a minute lining the document up and then took one picture and it was perfect! I never had anything close to that with Prismo, Text Grabber or Text Detective. I rarely got the whole document there, whereas KNFB Reader helps you line it up if you want it to. It also does
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Oh, it will definitely realign things in terms of recognition of direction. One thing I’ve just tried is to export a file to DropBox for opening and it simply goes back to the export menu. I tried opening in different apps and it just goes back to the export menu. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Sep 20, 2014, at 5:44 PM, Buddy Brannan bu...@brannan.name wrote: This is incorrect. It can of course flip the page right side up if it’s upside down and so on, but of course it works best when you’re aligned the same way as your document. — Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: 814-860-3194 Mobile: 814-431-0962 Email: bu...@brannan.name On Sep 20, 2014, at 5:09 PM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: Hi! So you have to have the phone or paper in the right clock direction. It can't turn the page virtually in the app. /A 20 sep 2014 kl. 23:03 skrev Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com: GiGi, that’s the beauty of the tilt function. I’m usually fairly good at balancing the phone but if I do more than one scan of something in the same spot, such as just moving another piece of mail under it, I tend to tip the phone. The thing that confuses me at times is the clock face orientation. I have to tell myself that it is reporting the position of the material under the phone and that I should turn the phone in that direction until it says 0. For some weird reason my brain conjured that this was the orientation of the phone itself when looking at the image and that I must turn the phone in the opposite direction to reorient. Where that came from I have no idea. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Sep 20, 2014, at 4:59 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there Well lazy me did something else. I put my Mac on my lap and shut it, and then sorted my Mail sitting in my recliner. I wasn't sure that was going to work but it did work quite fine. I am finding the level indicator to be a lot more helpful than the review function. Maybe it's just me since I just got it today, but by the time I tell it to scan again I have to be very careful not to change my position. Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2014, at 9:23 AM, Rob Bender rbende...@gmail.com wrote: I also bought the app after hearing the Applevis podcast and reading about the results from others on the list. I had the opportunity to borrow a Nokia phone with the old KNFB app 4 or 5 years ago and was only ever able to get a few words from a page. I was able to sit at the kitchen table and sort the mail just after buying the new app. It is definitely better than the old app since the field of view report and the tilt notification are a great help in lining up the camera. I will add that I had not been able to get good results with the other OCR apps for the iPhone since I was horrible at lining up the camera. It really seems that they did a great job on writing an app which compensates for blind users. I plan to try more documents today. On Sep 20, 2014, at 6:00 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Pete You may have answered this already, but I once tried the KNFB reader that a friend had on his Windows phone. I couldn't get the thing to line up and I got the worst text you ever saw. Obviously, you got it to line up with the restaurant menu, and I'm really impressed about that. I have heard there is an option on this new program to find the line up. How sloppy can you be to line up the text and have the text come out good? I hope my question makes sense. I know a lot of people got the old one to work, but I was hopeless with it. So, did you ever use the old one, and is it, in your opinion, better than it was? Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2014, at 1:58 AM, peter Apgar pap...@gmavt.net wrote: Best app I've ever purchased! I to believe that this works better then desktop scanning programs. First day with it was today. First try at a restaurant scored the entire menu perfectly Pete Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 3:41 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Frankly, I could not agree more!!! My flat bed scanning days are through: or just about anyhow. I never got such good results with the other OCR apps. Not even with Abby Fine Reader Text Grabber, which is kinda sorta okay. The KNFB reader is where it's at if you want it to be both fast and accurate. Yes, it does help you angle the camra just right. I didn't realize, until I started using the KNFB reader app that I was always angling the camra lens much too far upward. Sincerely, the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus! On Sep 19, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Lisette Wesseling
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In the search box on the app store, you just search exactly for this. knfb no quotes of course. Sincerely, the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus! On Sep 20, 2014, at 3:29 PM, Daniela Rubio mabuha...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all! I am trying to find KNFB Reader APP for my iphone, but I can't find it, can somebody please share the link? Thanks in advance! Daniela Rubio T iPhone: +34662328507 El 20/09/2014, a las 19:44, Feliciano G theblindman...@hotmail.com escribió: I don't have that app;but I do have the iphone5 with IOS8 and have noticed that my voiceover will turn off randomly. I restored my phone 2 hours ago. Hopefully that problem doesn't persist. Regards, Feliciano www.twitter.com/theblindman12v From: Matt Dierckens Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 8:17 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App Hi Have any iPhone 5 users experienced the phone shutting off when you have the KNFB reader opened and on battery power? Mine has shut off at least three times since I bought the app. Matt Dierckens Macintosh Trainer Blind Access Training www.blindaccesstraining.com 1-877-774-7670 ext. 3 Work email:matt...@blindaccesstraining.com Personal email: matt.dierck...@gmail.com On Sep 20, 2014, at 11:04, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote: I've been using it on a variety of things and have found the app to be much more reliable in terms of getting good pictures initially, than my attempts with other OCR apps. I'd like to pride myself on being able to take fairly good pictures for OCR purposes but for some reason, I never had good luck or consistency with the other OCR apps. Last night, just for fun and to prove to my husband that the app worked, I took a picture of our television screen from about 8 feet away. It's a 42 inch TV. There was an add on for one of those legal services that sues if you have had some disease or other. The app read most of the text on screen accurately including a phone number and web address. It faltered near the end of the text but I suspect it was scrolling or stylized. It did make an attempt though. To say I was in shock is an understatement. Now I wish I'd saved the scan. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Sep 20, 2014, at 9:39 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: See my last post. Basically, the app comes with features that give you very good feedback while your positioning the camera. Best, Donna On Sep 20, 2014, at 7:44 AM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: HI! ONE THING I'D LIKE TO KNOW IS HOW WOULD ONE KNOW WHERE AND HOW TO HOLD THE CAMERA OVER a paper. Anyone? /A 19 sep 2014 kl. 16:28 skrev 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com: Apparently the app is $100. CB Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB Reader is now available in the iTunes app store. Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance, we have been interested in the development of better and more portable reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus, labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday life, even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of us carry each day provides instant access to the printed word. We can hear our mail or the menu at our favorite restaurant spoken with the iPhone's built-in text-to-speech technology, or read it in Braille with a refreshable Braille display. This app will fundamentally change the everyday lives of many blind people, helping us to get the information we need and live the lives we want. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop
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Not to worry. Here's how you solve that. Bear in mind that this is a one'time process and after that your export will work. Assuming you already have a document you want to export, you need, at least, for the first save, to select the KNFB file option. After that, you can export to other formats. I can assure you that this fix will work. KNFB support tells me that this bug is on the tracking and fix list. Sincerely, the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus! On Sep 20, 2014, at 5:09 PM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, it will definitely realign things in terms of recognition of direction. One thing I’ve just tried is to export a file to DropBox for opening and it simply goes back to the export menu. I tried opening in different apps and it just goes back to the export menu. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Sep 20, 2014, at 5:44 PM, Buddy Brannan bu...@brannan.name wrote: This is incorrect. It can of course flip the page right side up if it’s upside down and so on, but of course it works best when you’re aligned the same way as your document. — Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: 814-860-3194 Mobile: 814-431-0962 Email: bu...@brannan.name On Sep 20, 2014, at 5:09 PM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: Hi! So you have to have the phone or paper in the right clock direction. It can't turn the page virtually in the app. /A 20 sep 2014 kl. 23:03 skrev Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com: GiGi, that’s the beauty of the tilt function. I’m usually fairly good at balancing the phone but if I do more than one scan of something in the same spot, such as just moving another piece of mail under it, I tend to tip the phone. The thing that confuses me at times is the clock face orientation. I have to tell myself that it is reporting the position of the material under the phone and that I should turn the phone in that direction until it says 0. For some weird reason my brain conjured that this was the orientation of the phone itself when looking at the image and that I must turn the phone in the opposite direction to reorient. Where that came from I have no idea. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Sep 20, 2014, at 4:59 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there Well lazy me did something else. I put my Mac on my lap and shut it, and then sorted my Mail sitting in my recliner. I wasn't sure that was going to work but it did work quite fine. I am finding the level indicator to be a lot more helpful than the review function. Maybe it's just me since I just got it today, but by the time I tell it to scan again I have to be very careful not to change my position. Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2014, at 9:23 AM, Rob Bender rbende...@gmail.com wrote: I also bought the app after hearing the Applevis podcast and reading about the results from others on the list. I had the opportunity to borrow a Nokia phone with the old KNFB app 4 or 5 years ago and was only ever able to get a few words from a page. I was able to sit at the kitchen table and sort the mail just after buying the new app. It is definitely better than the old app since the field of view report and the tilt notification are a great help in lining up the camera. I will add that I had not been able to get good results with the other OCR apps for the iPhone since I was horrible at lining up the camera. It really seems that they did a great job on writing an app which compensates for blind users. I plan to try more documents today. On Sep 20, 2014, at 6:00 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Pete You may have answered this already, but I once tried the KNFB reader that a friend had on his Windows phone. I couldn't get the thing to line up and I got the worst text you ever saw. Obviously, you got it to line up with the restaurant menu, and I'm really impressed about that. I have heard there is an option on this new program to find the line up. How sloppy can you be to line up the text and have the text come out good? I hope my question makes sense. I know a lot of people got the old one to work, but I was hopeless with it. So, did you ever use the old one, and is it, in your opinion, better than it was? Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2014, at 1:58 AM, peter Apgar pap...@gmavt.net wrote: Best app I've ever purchased! I to believe that this works better then desktop scanning programs. First day with it was today. First try at a restaurant scored the entire menu perfectly Pete Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 3:41 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Frankly, I could not agree more!!! My flat bed scanning days
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Hello! Thank you for the advise, and my Visa thanks you too! *lol! It is really cool, but I still don't find where to set up the dropbox account to save documents there. Thank you! Best Daniela Rubio T iPhone: +34662328507 El 20/09/2014, a las 22:47, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com escribió: Hi there I had to go to applevis.com because when I searched at the Apple Store app for the iPhone, I got the wrong thing. Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2014, at 3:29 PM, Daniela Rubio mabuha...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all! I am trying to find KNFB Reader APP for my iphone, but I can't find it, can somebody please share the link? Thanks in advance! Daniela Rubio T iPhone: +34662328507 El 20/09/2014, a las 19:44, Feliciano G theblindman...@hotmail.com escribió: I don't have that app;but I do have the iphone5 with IOS8 and have noticed that my voiceover will turn off randomly. I restored my phone 2 hours ago. Hopefully that problem doesn't persist. Regards, Feliciano www.twitter.com/theblindman12v From: Matt Dierckens Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 8:17 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App Hi Have any iPhone 5 users experienced the phone shutting off when you have the KNFB reader opened and on battery power? Mine has shut off at least three times since I bought the app. Matt Dierckens Macintosh Trainer Blind Access Training www.blindaccesstraining.com 1-877-774-7670 ext. 3 Work email:matt...@blindaccesstraining.com Personal email: matt.dierck...@gmail.com On Sep 20, 2014, at 11:04, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote: I've been using it on a variety of things and have found the app to be much more reliable in terms of getting good pictures initially, than my attempts with other OCR apps. I'd like to pride myself on being able to take fairly good pictures for OCR purposes but for some reason, I never had good luck or consistency with the other OCR apps. Last night, just for fun and to prove to my husband that the app worked, I took a picture of our television screen from about 8 feet away. It's a 42 inch TV. There was an add on for one of those legal services that sues if you have had some disease or other. The app read most of the text on screen accurately including a phone number and web address. It faltered near the end of the text but I suspect it was scrolling or stylized. It did make an attempt though. To say I was in shock is an understatement. Now I wish I'd saved the scan. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Sep 20, 2014, at 9:39 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: See my last post. Basically, the app comes with features that give you very good feedback while your positioning the camera. Best, Donna On Sep 20, 2014, at 7:44 AM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: HI! ONE THING I'D LIKE TO KNOW IS HOW WOULD ONE KNOW WHERE AND HOW TO HOLD THE CAMERA OVER a paper. Anyone? /A 19 sep 2014 kl. 16:28 skrev 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com: Apparently the app is $100. CB Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB Reader is now available in the iTunes app store. Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance, we have been interested in the development of better and more portable reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus, labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday life, even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of us carry each day provides instant access to the printed word. We can hear our mail or the menu at our favorite restaurant spoken with the iPhone's built-in text-to-speech technology, or read it in Braille with a refreshable Braille display. This app will fundamentally change the everyday lives of many blind people, helping us to get the information we need and live the lives we
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Ah, you have to already have a Drop box account. Sincerely, the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus! On Sep 20, 2014, at 6:32 PM, Daniela Rubio mabuha...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! Thank you for the advise, and my Visa thanks you too! *lol! It is really cool, but I still don't find where to set up the dropbox account to save documents there. Thank you! Best Daniela Rubio T iPhone: +34662328507 El 20/09/2014, a las 22:47, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com escribió: Hi there I had to go to applevis.com because when I searched at the Apple Store app for the iPhone, I got the wrong thing. Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2014, at 3:29 PM, Daniela Rubio mabuha...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all! I am trying to find KNFB Reader APP for my iphone, but I can't find it, can somebody please share the link? Thanks in advance! Daniela Rubio T iPhone: +34662328507 El 20/09/2014, a las 19:44, Feliciano G theblindman...@hotmail.com escribió: I don't have that app;but I do have the iphone5 with IOS8 and have noticed that my voiceover will turn off randomly. I restored my phone 2 hours ago. Hopefully that problem doesn't persist. Regards, Feliciano www.twitter.com/theblindman12v From: Matt Dierckens Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 8:17 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App Hi Have any iPhone 5 users experienced the phone shutting off when you have the KNFB reader opened and on battery power? Mine has shut off at least three times since I bought the app. Matt Dierckens Macintosh Trainer Blind Access Training www.blindaccesstraining.com 1-877-774-7670 ext. 3 Work email:matt...@blindaccesstraining.com Personal email: matt.dierck...@gmail.com On Sep 20, 2014, at 11:04, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote: I've been using it on a variety of things and have found the app to be much more reliable in terms of getting good pictures initially, than my attempts with other OCR apps. I'd like to pride myself on being able to take fairly good pictures for OCR purposes but for some reason, I never had good luck or consistency with the other OCR apps. Last night, just for fun and to prove to my husband that the app worked, I took a picture of our television screen from about 8 feet away. It's a 42 inch TV. There was an add on for one of those legal services that sues if you have had some disease or other. The app read most of the text on screen accurately including a phone number and web address. It faltered near the end of the text but I suspect it was scrolling or stylized. It did make an attempt though. To say I was in shock is an understatement. Now I wish I'd saved the scan. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Sep 20, 2014, at 9:39 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: See my last post. Basically, the app comes with features that give you very good feedback while your positioning the camera. Best, Donna On Sep 20, 2014, at 7:44 AM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: HI! ONE THING I'D LIKE TO KNOW IS HOW WOULD ONE KNOW WHERE AND HOW TO HOLD THE CAMERA OVER a paper. Anyone? /A 19 sep 2014 kl. 16:28 skrev 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com: Apparently the app is $100. CB Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB Reader is now available in the iTunes app store. Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance, we have been interested in the development of better and more portable reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus, labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday life, even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of us carry each day provides instant access
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I'm trying to decide if I want to spend $100 for an app. That is kind of pricy. On Sep 20, 2014, at 1:29 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: I can tell you, as can other folks here, from personal experience, that the app is bloody well worth it mate. I can't decide for you, that's something you have to do for yourself. IF you get the app, and you feel like it isn't worth it, Apple will refund the purchase price. Very easy and totally accessible process. But for me, and many others here, if this thread alone is anything to judge by, the results one gets with this app verses ALL, OTHER, OCR apps, makes the KNFB app very well worth it. Sincerely, the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus! On Sep 20, 2014, at 10:47 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com wrote: All right. Yes, it's all very wonderful The question is: why? Why have all the other apps failed? What's the magic sauce? You know me--well, you do now, anyway--that I'm not going to be happy unless I've established that £69 was worth paying. I'm still not quite convinced that it is, yet. £69 is a lot of money for an iOS app, and my first thought while reading the description was, Yeah, highly anticipated and bloody expensive! Anybody have answers, or even hypotheses? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Well, not to pile on, but, this is one case where free doesn't do much good for many of us. However, it is, of course, your decision. Me, I reckon it's worth it. Sincerely, the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus! On Sep 20, 2014, at 8:04 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote: I'm trying to decide if I want to spend $100 for an app. That is kind of pricy. On Sep 20, 2014, at 1:29 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: I can tell you, as can other folks here, from personal experience, that the app is bloody well worth it mate. I can't decide for you, that's something you have to do for yourself. IF you get the app, and you feel like it isn't worth it, Apple will refund the purchase price. Very easy and totally accessible process. But for me, and many others here, if this thread alone is anything to judge by, the results one gets with this app verses ALL, OTHER, OCR apps, makes the KNFB app very well worth it. Sincerely, the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus! On Sep 20, 2014, at 10:47 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com wrote: All right. Yes, it's all very wonderful The question is: why? Why have all the other apps failed? What's the magic sauce? You know me--well, you do now, anyway--that I'm not going to be happy unless I've established that £69 was worth paying. I'm still not quite convinced that it is, yet. £69 is a lot of money for an iOS app, and my first thought while reading the description was, Yeah, highly anticipated and bloody expensive! Anybody have answers, or even hypotheses? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
KNFB Reader iPhone App
Apparently the app is $100. CB* * *Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014):* The National Federation of the Blind http://nfb.org/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=3838qid=615419, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has applauded the release of KNFB Reader http://nfb.org/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=3839qid=615419, a new app for the iPhone and other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB Reader is now available in the iTunes app store. http://nfb.org/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=3840qid=615419 Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance, we have been interested in the development of better and more portable reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus, labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday life, even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of us carry each day http://nfb.org/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=3841qid=615419 provides instant access to the printed word. We can hear our mail or the menu at our favorite restaurant spoken with the iPhone's built-in text-to-speech technology, or read it in Braille with a refreshable Braille display. This app will fundamentally change the everyday lives of many blind people, helping us to get the information we need and live the lives we want. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App
I just bought it. I will let you know how it works. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: Apparently the app is $100. CB Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the Blind, the nation’s leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone’s camera and state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB Reader is now available in the iTunes app store. Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: “The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance, we have been interested in the development of better and more portable reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus, labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday life, even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of us carry each day provides instant access to the printed word. We can hear our mail or the menu at our favorite restaurant spoken with the iPhone’s built-in text-to-speech technology, or read it in Braille with a refreshable Braille display. This app will fundamentally change the everyday lives of many blind people, helping us to get the information we need and live the lives we want.” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App
Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina? Chris Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 743-8244 web: www.mysticaccess.com Accessible Gadgets mailing list: http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com Twitter: MysticAccess Twitter: JediKent On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400 Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: I just bought it. I will let you know how it works. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: Apparently the app is $100. CB Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB Reader is now available in the iTunes app store. Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance, we have been interested in the development of better and more portable reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus, labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday life, even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of us carry each day provides instant access to the printed word. We can hear our mail or the menu at our favorite restaurant spoken with the iPhone's built-in text-to-speech technology, or read it in Braille with a refreshable Braille display. This app will fundamentally change the everyday lives of many blind people, helping us to get the information we need and live the lives we want. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 743-8244 web: www.mysticaccess.com Accessible Gadgets mailing list: http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com Twitter: MysticAccess Twitter: JediKent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App
$100? Ouch. On 9/19/14, Chris G jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com wrote: Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina? Chris Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 743-8244 web: www.mysticaccess.com Accessible Gadgets mailing list: http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com Twitter: MysticAccess Twitter: JediKent On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400 Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: I just bought it. I will let you know how it works. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: Apparently the app is $100. CB Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB Reader is now available in the iTunes app store. Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance, we have been interested in the development of better and more portable reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus, labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday life, even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of us carry each day provides instant access to the printed word. We can hear our mail or the menu at our favorite restaurant spoken with the iPhone's built-in text-to-speech technology, or read it in Braille with a refreshable Braille display. This app will fundamentally change the everyday lives of many blind people, helping us to get the information we need and live the lives we want. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 743-8244 web: www.mysticaccess.com Accessible Gadgets mailing list: http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com Twitter: MysticAccess Twitter: JediKent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App
Yep, I know. Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration? Gary On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com wrote: $100? Ouch. On 9/19/14, Chris G jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com wrote: Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina? Chris Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 743-8244 web: www.mysticaccess.com Accessible Gadgets mailing list: http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com Twitter: MysticAccess Twitter: JediKent On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400 Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: I just bought it. I will let you know how it works. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: Apparently the app is $100. CB Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB Reader is now available in the iTunes app store. Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance, we have been interested in the development of better and more portable reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus, labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday life, even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of us carry each day provides instant access to the printed word. We can hear our mail or the menu at our favorite restaurant spoken with the iPhone's built-in text-to-speech technology, or read it in Braille with a refreshable Braille display. This app will fundamentally change the everyday lives of many blind people, helping us to get the information we need and live the lives we want. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 743-8244 web: www.mysticaccess.com Accessible Gadgets mailing list: http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com Twitter: MysticAccess Twitter: JediKent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App
It just works. I'm glad I bought it. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary gary.robl...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, I know. Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration? Gary On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com wrote: $100? Ouch. On 9/19/14, Chris G jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com wrote: Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina? Chris Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 743-8244 web: www.mysticaccess.com Accessible Gadgets mailing list: http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com Twitter: MysticAccess Twitter: JediKent On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400 Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: I just bought it. I will let you know how it works. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: Apparently the app is $100. CB Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB Reader is now available in the iTunes app store. Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance, we have been interested in the development of better and more portable reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus, labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday life, even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of us carry each day provides instant access to the printed word. We can hear our mail or the menu at our favorite restaurant spoken with the iPhone's built-in text-to-speech technology, or read it in Braille with a refreshable Braille display. This app will fundamentally change the everyday lives of many blind people, helping us to get the information we need and live the lives we want. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 743-8244 web: www.mysticaccess.com Accessible Gadgets mailing list: http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com Twitter: MysticAccess Twitter: JediKent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you
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Kevin, can you say more? I'm kind of on the fence about whether or not to purchase it, but so far I'm not completely happy with either textGrabber or Prizmo. I think the place where I'm going wrong with both those apps is the positioning of the camera. Does KNFB Reader make that easier? Thanks, Donna On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: It just works. I'm glad I bought it. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary gary.robl...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, I know. Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration? Gary On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com wrote: $100? Ouch. On 9/19/14, Chris G jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com wrote: Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina? Chris Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 743-8244 web: www.mysticaccess.com Accessible Gadgets mailing list: http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com Twitter: MysticAccess Twitter: JediKent On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400 Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: I just bought it. I will let you know how it works. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: Apparently the app is $100. CB Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB Reader is now available in the iTunes app store. Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance, we have been interested in the development of better and more portable reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus, labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday life, even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of us carry each day provides instant access to the printed word. We can hear our mail or the menu at our favorite restaurant spoken with the iPhone's built-in text-to-speech technology, or read it in Braille with a refreshable Braille display. This app will fundamentally change the everyday lives of many blind people, helping us to get the information we need and live the lives we want. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 743-8244 web: www.mysticaccess.com Accessible Gadgets mailing list: http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com Twitter: MysticAccess Twitter: JediKent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
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Hi, Here is a well done podcast on the KNFB Reader. http://www.applevis.com/sites/default/files/podcasts/AppleVisPodcast600.mp3 Chris Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 743-8244 web: www.mysticaccess.com Accessible Gadgets mailing list: http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com Twitter: MysticAccess Twitter: JediKent On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 13:28:18 -0500 Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Kevin, can you say more? I'm kind of on the fence about whether or not to purchase it, but so far I'm not completely happy with either textGrabber or Prizmo. I think the place where I'm going wrong with both those apps is the positioning of the camera. Does KNFB Reader make that easier? Thanks, Donna On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: It just works. I'm glad I bought it. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary gary.robl...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, I know. Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration? Gary On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com wrote: $100? Ouch. On 9/19/14, Chris G jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com wrote: Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina? Chris Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 743-8244 web: www.mysticaccess.com Accessible Gadgets mailing list: http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com Twitter: MysticAccess Twitter: JediKent On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400 Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: I just bought it. I will let you know how it works. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: Apparently the app is $100. CB Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB Reader is now available in the iTunes app store. Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance, we have been interested in the development of better and more portable reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus, labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday life, even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of us carry each day provides instant access to the printed word. We can hear our mail or the menu at our favorite restaurant spoken with the iPhone's built-in text-to-speech technology, or read it in Braille with a refreshable Braille display. This app will fundamentally change the everyday lives of many blind people, helping us to get the information we need and live the lives we want. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 743-8244 web: www.mysticaccess.com Accessible Gadgets mailing list:
Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App
I've only tried to read a couple of things. I'd let it read a guitar strings package and it read just about everything on there that I could ever want it too. I had it read a check and it read the check label, the description of the pattern based on the fact that it was a check with kiss on it. It just seems like it just gets it. I agree that the cameras placement has been a pain with other apps. I used it to read the screen on my refrigerator too. It did a pretty good job there as well. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Kevin, can you say more? I'm kind of on the fence about whether or not to purchase it, but so far I'm not completely happy with either textGrabber or Prizmo. I think the place where I'm going wrong with both those apps is the positioning of the camera. Does KNFB Reader make that easier? Thanks, Donna On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: It just works. I'm glad I bought it. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary gary.robl...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, I know. Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration? Gary On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com wrote: $100? Ouch. On 9/19/14, Chris G jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com wrote: Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina? Chris Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 743-8244 web: www.mysticaccess.com Accessible Gadgets mailing list: http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com Twitter: MysticAccess Twitter: JediKent On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400 Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: I just bought it. I will let you know how it works. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: Apparently the app is $100. CB Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB Reader is now available in the iTunes app store. Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance, we have been interested in the development of better and more portable reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus, labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday life, even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of us carry each day provides instant access to the printed word. We can hear our mail or the menu at our favorite restaurant spoken with the iPhone's built-in text-to-speech technology, or read it in Braille with a refreshable Braille display. This app will fundamentally change the everyday lives of many blind people, helping us to get the information we need and live the lives we want. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 743-8244 web: www.mysticaccess.com Accessible Gadgets mailing list: http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com
Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App
Donna, I'm not Kevin but bought the app last night. On my first picture, I got 100 per cent accuracy of an entire credit card statement which obviously has lots of numbers and weird abbreviations. I spent about a minute lining the document up and then took one picture and it was perfect! I never had anything close to that with Prismo, Text Grabber or Text Detective. I rarely got the whole document there, whereas KNFB Reader helps you line it up if you want it to. It also does images and pdf images, so it is definitely worth it for me. I'm now sorry I wasted the money on those others, but it was all there was at the time and they served their purpose. KNFB Reader is now the only OCR app on my phone. It takes about 2 seconds from when the picture is taken to when it starts reading, and I'm using an iPhone 5 at this stage. Good luck with your decision Lisette On 20/09/2014, at 6:28 am, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Kevin, can you say more? I'm kind of on the fence about whether or not to purchase it, but so far I'm not completely happy with either textGrabber or Prizmo. I think the place where I'm going wrong with both those apps is the positioning of the camera. Does KNFB Reader make that easier? Thanks, Donna On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: It just works. I'm glad I bought it. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary gary.robl...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, I know. Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration? Gary On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com wrote: $100? Ouch. On 9/19/14, Chris G jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com wrote: Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina? Chris Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 743-8244 web: www.mysticaccess.com Accessible Gadgets mailing list: http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com Twitter: MysticAccess Twitter: JediKent On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400 Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: I just bought it. I will let you know how it works. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: Apparently the app is $100. CB Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB Reader is now available in the iTunes app store. Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance, we have been interested in the development of better and more portable reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus, labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday life, even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of us carry each day provides instant access to the printed word. We can hear our mail or the menu at our favorite restaurant spoken with the iPhone's built-in text-to-speech technology, or read it in Braille with a refreshable Braille display. This app will fundamentally change the everyday lives of many blind people, helping us to get the information we need and live the lives we want. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at
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Frankly, I could not agree more!!! My flat bed scanning days are through: or just about anyhow. I never got such good results with the other OCR apps. Not even with Abby Fine Reader Text Grabber, which is kinda sorta okay. The KNFB reader is where it's at if you want it to be both fast and accurate. Yes, it does help you angle the camra just right. I didn't realize, until I started using the KNFB reader app that I was always angling the camra lens much too far upward. Sincerely, the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus! On Sep 19, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote: Donna, I'm not Kevin but bought the app last night. On my first picture, I got 100 per cent accuracy of an entire credit card statement which obviously has lots of numbers and weird abbreviations. I spent about a minute lining the document up and then took one picture and it was perfect! I never had anything close to that with Prismo, Text Grabber or Text Detective. I rarely got the whole document there, whereas KNFB Reader helps you line it up if you want it to. It also does images and pdf images, so it is definitely worth it for me. I'm now sorry I wasted the money on those others, but it was all there was at the time and they served their purpose. KNFB Reader is now the only OCR app on my phone. It takes about 2 seconds from when the picture is taken to when it starts reading, and I'm using an iPhone 5 at this stage. Good luck with your decision Lisette On 20/09/2014, at 6:28 am, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Kevin, can you say more? I'm kind of on the fence about whether or not to purchase it, but so far I'm not completely happy with either textGrabber or Prizmo. I think the place where I'm going wrong with both those apps is the positioning of the camera. Does KNFB Reader make that easier? Thanks, Donna On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: It just works. I'm glad I bought it. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary gary.robl...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, I know. Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration? Gary On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com wrote: $100? Ouch. On 9/19/14, Chris G jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com wrote: Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina? Chris Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 743-8244 web: www.mysticaccess.com Accessible Gadgets mailing list: http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com Twitter: MysticAccess Twitter: JediKent On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400 Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: I just bought it. I will let you know how it works. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: Apparently the app is $100. CB Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB Reader is now available in the iTunes app store. Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance, we have been interested in the development of better and more portable reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus, labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday life, even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of us carry each day provides instant access to the printed word. We can hear our mail or the menu at our favorite restaurant spoken with the iPhone's built-in text-to-speech technology, or read it in Braille with a refreshable Braille display. This app will fundamentally change the everyday lives of many blind people, helping us to get the information
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The interesting thing about all this is that according to the app itself, it uses Abbyy Finereaders OCR engine and Textgrabber is actually very fast when it comes to recognizing the text, but it's much harder to get a good result. It makes me wonder how the IPhone app compares to the old Nokia app, which didn't impress me much. /Krister 19 sep 2014 kl. 21:41 skrev Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net: Frankly, I could not agree more!!! My flat bed scanning days are through: or just about anyhow. I never got such good results with the other OCR apps. Not even with Abby Fine Reader Text Grabber, which is kinda sorta okay. The KNFB reader is where it's at if you want it to be both fast and accurate. Yes, it does help you angle the camra just right. I didn't realize, until I started using the KNFB reader app that I was always angling the camra lens much too far upward. Sincerely, the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus! On Sep 19, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com mailto:lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote: Donna, I'm not Kevin but bought the app last night. On my first picture, I got 100 per cent accuracy of an entire credit card statement which obviously has lots of numbers and weird abbreviations. I spent about a minute lining the document up and then took one picture and it was perfect! I never had anything close to that with Prismo, Text Grabber or Text Detective. I rarely got the whole document there, whereas KNFB Reader helps you line it up if you want it to. It also does images and pdf images, so it is definitely worth it for me. I'm now sorry I wasted the money on those others, but it was all there was at the time and they served their purpose. KNFB Reader is now the only OCR app on my phone. It takes about 2 seconds from when the picture is taken to when it starts reading, and I'm using an iPhone 5 at this stage. Good luck with your decision Lisette On 20/09/2014, at 6:28 am, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com mailto:doniado...@me.com wrote: Kevin, can you say more? I'm kind of on the fence about whether or not to purchase it, but so far I'm not completely happy with either textGrabber or Prizmo. I think the place where I'm going wrong with both those apps is the positioning of the camera. Does KNFB Reader make that easier? Thanks, Donna On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com mailto:kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: It just works. I'm glad I bought it. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary gary.robl...@gmail.com mailto:gary.robl...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, I know. Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration? Gary On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com mailto:came...@cameronstrife.com wrote: $100? Ouch. On 9/19/14, Chris G jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com mailto:jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com wrote: Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina? Chris Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 743-8244 web: www.mysticaccess.com http://www.mysticaccess.com/ Accessible Gadgets mailing list: http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com Twitter: MysticAccess Twitter: JediKent On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400 Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: I just bought it. I will let you know how it works. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: Apparently the app is $100. CB Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB Reader is now available in the iTunes app store. Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was
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Hello, Since you brought up the topic of scanning a credit card bill, I have a question for you and anyone else that has the app. Can the KNFB app read the back of a credit card where the 3 digit security code is or for that matter scan the from where the account number and expiration date is? This would be quite nifty if the KNFB Reader app could do that. Lately, more and more companies are asking for the 3 digit code, but each time you receive a new card in the mail, those 3 security digit code numbers change. I look forward to hearing from those who have the app regarding this. Thanks. Best, Eileen -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lisette Wesseling Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 12:28 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App Donna, I'm not Kevin but bought the app last night. On my first picture, I got 100 per cent accuracy of an entire credit card statement which obviously has lots of numbers and weird abbreviations. I spent about a minute lining the document up and then took one picture and it was perfect! I never had anything close to that with Prismo, Text Grabber or Text Detective. I rarely got the whole document there, whereas KNFB Reader helps you line it up if you want it to. It also does images and pdf images, so it is definitely worth it for me. I'm now sorry I wasted the money on those others, but it was all there was at the time and they served their purpose. KNFB Reader is now the only OCR app on my phone. It takes about 2 seconds from when the picture is taken to when it starts reading, and I'm using an iPhone 5 at this stage. Good luck with your decision Lisette On 20/09/2014, at 6:28 am, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Kevin, can you say more? I'm kind of on the fence about whether or not to purchase it, but so far I'm not completely happy with either textGrabber or Prizmo. I think the place where I'm going wrong with both those apps is the positioning of the camera. Does KNFB Reader make that easier? Thanks, Donna On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: It just works. I'm glad I bought it. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary gary.robl...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, I know. Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration? Gary On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com wrote: $100? Ouch. On 9/19/14, Chris G jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com wrote: Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina? Chris Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 743-8244 web: www.mysticaccess.com Accessible Gadgets mailing list: http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysti caccess.com Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com Twitter: MysticAccess Twitter: JediKent On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400 Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: I just bought it. I will let you know how it works. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: Apparently the app is $100. CB Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB Reader is now available in the iTunes app store. Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance, we have been interested in the development of better and more portable reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus, labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday life, even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of us carry each day provides instant access to the printed word. We can hear our mail or the menu at our favorite restaurant spoken with the iPhone's built-in text-to-speech technology, or read it in Braille with a refreshable Braille display. This app will fundamentally change
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Mrs tells me the abbyy Finereader app is itself available and free; over here at least. Could be a question of accessibility. Will have to go look, but all the other helpp may well yet be worth the cost. Rh. - Original Message - From: Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 8:55 PM Subject: Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App The interesting thing about all this is that according to the app itself, it uses Abbyy Finereaders OCR engine and Textgrabber is actually very fast when it comes to recognizing the text, but it's much harder to get a good result. It makes me wonder how the IPhone app compares to the old Nokia app, which didn't impress me much. /Krister 19 sep 2014 kl. 21:41 skrev Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net: Frankly, I could not agree more!!! My flat bed scanning days are through: or just about anyhow. I never got such good results with the other OCR apps. Not even with Abby Fine Reader Text Grabber, which is kinda sorta okay. The KNFB reader is where it's at if you want it to be both fast and accurate. Yes, it does help you angle the camra just right. I didn't realize, until I started using the KNFB reader app that I was always angling the camra lens much too far upward. Sincerely, the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus! On Sep 19, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com mailto:lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote: Donna, I'm not Kevin but bought the app last night. On my first picture, I got 100 per cent accuracy of an entire credit card statement which obviously has lots of numbers and weird abbreviations. I spent about a minute lining the document up and then took one picture and it was perfect! I never had anything close to that with Prismo, Text Grabber or Text Detective. I rarely got the whole document there, whereas KNFB Reader helps you line it up if you want it to. It also does images and pdf images, so it is definitely worth it for me. I'm now sorry I wasted the money on those others, but it was all there was at the time and they served their purpose. KNFB Reader is now the only OCR app on my phone. It takes about 2 seconds from when the picture is taken to when it starts reading, and I'm using an iPhone 5 at this stage. Good luck with your decision Lisette On 20/09/2014, at 6:28 am, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com mailto:doniado...@me.com wrote: Kevin, can you say more? I'm kind of on the fence about whether or not to purchase it, but so far I'm not completely happy with either textGrabber or Prizmo. I think the place where I'm going wrong with both those apps is the positioning of the camera. Does KNFB Reader make that easier? Thanks, Donna On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com mailto:kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: It just works. I'm glad I bought it. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary gary.robl...@gmail.com mailto:gary.robl...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, I know. Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration? Gary On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com mailto:came...@cameronstrife.com wrote: $100? Ouch. On 9/19/14, Chris G jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com mailto:jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com wrote: Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina? Chris Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 743-8244 web: www.mysticaccess.com http://www.mysticaccess.com/ Accessible Gadgets mailing list: http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com Twitter: MysticAccess Twitter: JediKent On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400 Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: I just bought it. I will let you know how it works. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: Apparently the app is $100. CB Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB Reader is now available in the iTunes app store. Mark Riccobono
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thanks for sharing this, Chris, it was quite informative. It's definitely pricy, but a very slick app. I'm thinking I might go ahead an pick it up. Cheers, Donna On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:54 PM, Chris G jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com wrote: Hi, Here is a well done podcast on the KNFB Reader. http://www.applevis.com/sites/default/files/podcasts/AppleVisPodcast600.mp3 Chris Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 743-8244 web: www.mysticaccess.com Accessible Gadgets mailing list: http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com Twitter: MysticAccess Twitter: JediKent On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 13:28:18 -0500 Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Kevin, can you say more? I'm kind of on the fence about whether or not to purchase it, but so far I'm not completely happy with either textGrabber or Prizmo. I think the place where I'm going wrong with both those apps is the positioning of the camera. Does KNFB Reader make that easier? Thanks, Donna On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: It just works. I'm glad I bought it. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary gary.robl...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, I know. Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration? Gary On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com wrote: $100? Ouch. On 9/19/14, Chris G jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com wrote: Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina? Chris Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 743-8244 web: www.mysticaccess.com Accessible Gadgets mailing list: http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com Twitter: MysticAccess Twitter: JediKent On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400 Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: I just bought it. I will let you know how it works. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: Apparently the app is $100. CB Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB Reader is now available in the iTunes app store. Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance, we have been interested in the development of better and more portable reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus, labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday life, even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of us carry each day provides instant access to the printed word. We can hear our mail or the menu at our favorite restaurant spoken with the iPhone's built-in text-to-speech technology, or read it in Braille with a refreshable Braille display. This app will fundamentally change the everyday lives of many blind people, helping us to get the information we need and live the lives we want. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. Mystic Access Where the magic is
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Hi Lisette, Wow, that's impressive. I think the podcast pretty much sold me, but your report was the last straw. It's great to finally have an app that can give us reliable OCR wherever we are. thanks for sharing your experience. Best, Donna On Sep 19, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote: Donna, I'm not Kevin but bought the app last night. On my first picture, I got 100 per cent accuracy of an entire credit card statement which obviously has lots of numbers and weird abbreviations. I spent about a minute lining the document up and then took one picture and it was perfect! I never had anything close to that with Prismo, Text Grabber or Text Detective. I rarely got the whole document there, whereas KNFB Reader helps you line it up if you want it to. It also does images and pdf images, so it is definitely worth it for me. I'm now sorry I wasted the money on those others, but it was all there was at the time and they served their purpose. KNFB Reader is now the only OCR app on my phone. It takes about 2 seconds from when the picture is taken to when it starts reading, and I'm using an iPhone 5 at this stage. Good luck with your decision Lisette On 20/09/2014, at 6:28 am, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Kevin, can you say more? I'm kind of on the fence about whether or not to purchase it, but so far I'm not completely happy with either textGrabber or Prizmo. I think the place where I'm going wrong with both those apps is the positioning of the camera. Does KNFB Reader make that easier? Thanks, Donna On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: It just works. I'm glad I bought it. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary gary.robl...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, I know. Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration? Gary On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com wrote: $100? Ouch. On 9/19/14, Chris G jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com wrote: Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina? Chris Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 743-8244 web: www.mysticaccess.com Accessible Gadgets mailing list: http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com Twitter: MysticAccess Twitter: JediKent On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400 Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: I just bought it. I will let you know how it works. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: Apparently the app is $100. CB Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB Reader is now available in the iTunes app store. Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance, we have been interested in the development of better and more portable reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus, labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday life, even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of us carry each day provides instant access to the printed word. We can hear our mail or the menu at our favorite restaurant spoken with the iPhone's built-in text-to-speech technology, or read it in Braille with a refreshable Braille display. This app will fundamentally change the everyday lives of many blind people, helping us to get the information we need and live the lives we want. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit
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That was amazing!!! I just downloaded it, and on the second try, I got a nearly perfect scan of a page from a novel. Looking forward to trying it on more complex documents, but right now I'd say it's well worth the money. For us, especially, it's an incredibly useful thing to be able to do--and do well-- with your phone. Cheers, Donna On Sep 19, 2014, at 2:41 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Frankly, I could not agree more!!! My flat bed scanning days are through: or just about anyhow. I never got such good results with the other OCR apps. Not even with Abby Fine Reader Text Grabber, which is kinda sorta okay. The KNFB reader is where it's at if you want it to be both fast and accurate. Yes, it does help you angle the camra just right. I didn't realize, until I started using the KNFB reader app that I was always angling the camra lens much too far upward. Sincerely, the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus! On Sep 19, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote: Donna, I'm not Kevin but bought the app last night. On my first picture, I got 100 per cent accuracy of an entire credit card statement which obviously has lots of numbers and weird abbreviations. I spent about a minute lining the document up and then took one picture and it was perfect! I never had anything close to that with Prismo, Text Grabber or Text Detective. I rarely got the whole document there, whereas KNFB Reader helps you line it up if you want it to. It also does images and pdf images, so it is definitely worth it for me. I'm now sorry I wasted the money on those others, but it was all there was at the time and they served their purpose. KNFB Reader is now the only OCR app on my phone. It takes about 2 seconds from when the picture is taken to when it starts reading, and I'm using an iPhone 5 at this stage. Good luck with your decision Lisette On 20/09/2014, at 6:28 am, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Kevin, can you say more? I'm kind of on the fence about whether or not to purchase it, but so far I'm not completely happy with either textGrabber or Prizmo. I think the place where I'm going wrong with both those apps is the positioning of the camera. Does KNFB Reader make that easier? Thanks, Donna On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: It just works. I'm glad I bought it. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary gary.robl...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, I know. Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration? Gary On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com wrote: $100? Ouch. On 9/19/14, Chris G jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com wrote: Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina? Chris Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 743-8244 web: www.mysticaccess.com Accessible Gadgets mailing list: http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com Twitter: MysticAccess Twitter: JediKent On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400 Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: I just bought it. I will let you know how it works. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: Apparently the app is $100. CB Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB Reader is now available in the iTunes app store. Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance, we have been interested in the development of better and more portable reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus, labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday life, even with the increased electronic transmission
RE: KNFB Reader iPhone App
I agree this is by far the most expensive app I have ever purchased for any of my apple devices. However well worth the price, considering how much I paid for the original KNFB nosier phone reader and never regretted doing so, this is amazing. I am certain there are going to be a few areas where I will want changes, but hey this is the first release. I recommend this software without any hesitation. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin Sent: September 19, 2014 16:22 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App Hi Lisette, Wow, that's impressive. I think the podcast pretty much sold me, but your report was the last straw. It's great to finally have an app that can give us reliable OCR wherever we are. thanks for sharing your experience. Best, Donna On Sep 19, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote: Donna, I'm not Kevin but bought the app last night. On my first picture, I got 100 per cent accuracy of an entire credit card statement which obviously has lots of numbers and weird abbreviations. I spent about a minute lining the document up and then took one picture and it was perfect! I never had anything close to that with Prismo, Text Grabber or Text Detective. I rarely got the whole document there, whereas KNFB Reader helps you line it up if you want it to. It also does images and pdf images, so it is definitely worth it for me. I'm now sorry I wasted the money on those others, but it was all there was at the time and they served their purpose. KNFB Reader is now the only OCR app on my phone. It takes about 2 seconds from when the picture is taken to when it starts reading, and I'm using an iPhone 5 at this stage. Good luck with your decision Lisette On 20/09/2014, at 6:28 am, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Kevin, can you say more? I'm kind of on the fence about whether or not to purchase it, but so far I'm not completely happy with either textGrabber or Prizmo. I think the place where I'm going wrong with both those apps is the positioning of the camera. Does KNFB Reader make that easier? Thanks, Donna On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: It just works. I'm glad I bought it. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary gary.robl...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, I know. Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration? Gary On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com wrote: $100? Ouch. On 9/19/14, Chris G jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com wrote: Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina? Chris Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 743-8244 web: www.mysticaccess.com Accessible Gadgets mailing list: http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.co m Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com Twitter: MysticAccess Twitter: JediKent On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400 Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: I just bought it. I will let you know how it works. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: Apparently the app is $100. CB Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB Reader is now available in the iTunes app store. Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance, we have been interested in the development of better and more portable reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus, labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday life, even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of us carry each day provides instant access to the printed word. We can hear our mail or the menu at our favorite restaurant spoken with the iPhone's built-in text-to-speech technology, or read
Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App
Hi, I just purchased it for use on my iPad mini with retna. From what I have done with it, it works great. However the main screen seems to be slow at responding when swiping through. Note: not blaming the KNFB Reader as I know it is an iPhone product running on my iPad mini with retna. Note, I'm stressing the fact its an iPad mini with retna. Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 743-8244 web: www.mysticaccess.com Accessible Gadgets mailing list: http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com Twitter: MysticAccess Twitter: JediKent On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 15:18:49 -0500 Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: thanks for sharing this, Chris, it was quite informative. It's definitely pricy, but a very slick app. I'm thinking I might go ahead an pick it up. Cheers, Donna On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:54 PM, Chris G jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com wrote: Hi, Here is a well done podcast on the KNFB Reader. http://www.applevis.com/sites/default/files/podcasts/AppleVisPodcast600.mp3 Chris Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 743-8244 web: www.mysticaccess.com Accessible Gadgets mailing list: http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com Twitter: MysticAccess Twitter: JediKent On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 13:28:18 -0500 Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Kevin, can you say more? I'm kind of on the fence about whether or not to purchase it, but so far I'm not completely happy with either textGrabber or Prizmo. I think the place where I'm going wrong with both those apps is the positioning of the camera. Does KNFB Reader make that easier? Thanks, Donna On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: It just works. I'm glad I bought it. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary gary.robl...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, I know. Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration? Gary On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com wrote: $100? Ouch. On 9/19/14, Chris G jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com wrote: Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina? Chris Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 743-8244 web: www.mysticaccess.com Accessible Gadgets mailing list: http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com Twitter: MysticAccess Twitter: JediKent On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400 Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: I just bought it. I will let you know how it works. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: Apparently the app is $100. CB Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB Reader is now available in the iTunes app store. Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance, we have been interested in the development of better and more portable reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus, labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday life, even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of us carry each day provides instant access to the printed word. We can hear our mail or the menu at our favorite restaurant spoken with the iPhone's built-in text-to-speech technology, or read it in Braille with a refreshable Braille display. This app will fundamentally change the everyday lives of many blind people, helping us to get the information we need and live the lives we
