Re: Strange focus/reading problems in Safari on my iphone

2021-01-24 Thread 'Catherine Turner' via MacVisionaries
Hi,

Thanks so much for this. I wasn’t really very familiar with the screen
recognition feature and this was what was causing the problem. Have
switched it off now. I agree that I do like image recognition to, find it
helpful and makes things more interesting.

Catherine

On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 at 18:16, Phil Halton  wrote:

> I have to agree with Brett hear about the screen recognition feature. I
> have found it to do nothing but cause problems with apps and Safari. It may
> have a future but currently it really screws up the performance of apps and
> the Internet. I would definitely try turning it off completely from within
> voiceover/voice recognition settings. Image descriptions on the other hand
> are somewhat useful and don’t cause performance problems at all.
>
> Sent from my IPhone
>
>
> > On Jan 10, 2021, at 11:15 AM, Brett Lewis 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> > Do you have the screen recognition turned on by any chance?
> > This is under settings accessibility voiceover and voiceover recognition.
> > Make sure it’s turned off for safari. I should note you can add it to
> the rotor and then turn it on for each app as you move, I just don’t know
> if it’s part of your rotor.
> > Hope that helps.
> >
> >
> >> On Jan 10, 2021, at 1:45 AM, 'Catherine Turner' via MacVisionaries <
> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I'm having a weird problem with safari on my iphone which basically
> >> makes safari unusable.  When I try to edit/type a web address, VO does
> >> not read the keyboard, though I'm told by a sighted person that it's
> >> there - VO just makes those sounds on it like it does when there's
> >> nothing on the screen.  Even if I double tap where the keys show,
> >> nothing appears in the address bar.  Additionally, the buttons at the
> >> bottom of safari for "back", "forward", "bookmarks" e.t.c. are just
> >> announced by VO as "left arrow" for back, "right arrow" for forward
> >> and nothing at all except "tab" for the others - it calls them "tab"
> >> instead of "button" like it does normally.  Apparently the icons for
> >> those buttons do look different to normal.
> >>
> >> If I view a page via the gmail app - where it opens the link kind of
> >> in safari within gmail - all is normal and fine.  But if I press that
> >> button which says "open in safari" it goes to the normal safari and
> >> goes wrong/odd again.
> >>
> >> I tried closing all the tabs, quitting and restarting safari,
> >> restarting my phone and restarting VO which made no difference.
> >>
> >> Does this ring any bells for anyone?
> >>
> >> I checked to see if there any ios updates available and there aren't.
> >> The only other thing I can think of that might have made a difference
> >> was that yesterday, in between the time safari was working normally
> >> and when it started behaving oddly, I put in a lightning to 3.5mm
> >> adapter to use some earphones.  When I put it in, the phone asked me
> >> whether this accessory was to use headphones and I said yes.  It also
> >> said something about being able to change this option later somewhere.
> >> I'm no longer using the adapter as I was borrowing it for a few hours.
> >> But I'm wondering if somehow that made safari go wrong.  But I can't
> >> find where to change that option - have looked everywhere I can think
> >> and searched in settings.  Perhaps anything relating to that adapter
> >> would only appear when I connect it again.  I'm going to borrow it
> >> again but has anyone any idea where I'd look for info about/to change
> >> options relating to that adapter?
> >>
> >> If not, I guess it's a phone reset...
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Catherine
> >>
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RE: Strange focus/reading problems in Safari on my iPhone

2021-01-10 Thread Marco Curralejo
Sorry I completely disagree with statements like "it causes problems when" etc. 
It's clear to me that certain individuals are not using it for when it is 
required.

It's best to use it only when you have too, not all the time.

It is also best to enable it in your rotor so you can easily get to it when you 
need to turn it on or off.

Finally, try using it for instance in an app like Telegram. Without it, the app 
is virtually useless, but with it, the app becomes far more accessible and you 
can perform functions easily.

Statements like that it causes problems etc is, in my opinion, a very open one 
and it's important to actually only use it when you need to and to have it 
turned off for most other situations, not have it turned on all the time. This 
feature was never designed for that.

Thanks,

Marco

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Subject: Re: Strange focus/reading problems in Safari on my iphone

I have to agree with Brett hear about the screen recognition feature. I have 
found it to do nothing but cause problems with apps and Safari. It may have a 
future but currently it really screws up the performance of apps and the 
Internet. I would definitely try turning it off completely from within 
voiceover/voice recognition settings. Image descriptions on the other hand are 
somewhat useful and don’t cause performance problems at all.

Sent from my IPhone


> On Jan 10, 2021, at 11:15 AM, Brett Lewis  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Do you have the screen recognition turned on by any chance?
> This is under settings accessibility voiceover and voiceover recognition.
> Make sure it’s turned off for safari. I should note you can add it to the 
> rotor and then turn it on for each app as you move, I just don’t know if it’s 
> part of your rotor.
> Hope that helps.
> 
> 
>> On Jan 10, 2021, at 1:45 AM, 'Catherine Turner' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I'm having a weird problem with safari on my iphone which basically 
>> makes safari unusable.  When I try to edit/type a web address, VO 
>> does not read the keyboard, though I'm told by a sighted person that 
>> it's there - VO just makes those sounds on it like it does when 
>> there's nothing on the screen.  Even if I double tap where the keys 
>> show, nothing appears in the address bar.  Additionally, the buttons 
>> at the bottom of safari for "back", "forward", "bookmarks" e.t.c. are 
>> just announced by VO as "left arrow" for back, "right arrow" for 
>> forward and nothing at all except "tab" for the others - it calls them "tab"
>> instead of "button" like it does normally.  Apparently the icons for 
>> those buttons do look different to normal.
>> 
>> If I view a page via the gmail app - where it opens the link kind of 
>> in safari within gmail - all is normal and fine.  But if I press that 
>> button which says "open in safari" it goes to the normal safari and 
>> goes wrong/odd again.
>> 
>> I tried closing all the tabs, quitting and restarting safari, 
>> restarting my phone and restarting VO which made no difference.
>> 
>> Does this ring any bells for anyone?
>> 
>> I checked to see if there any ios updates available and there aren't.
>> The only other thing I can think of that might have made a difference 
>> was that yesterday, in between the time safari was working normally 
>> and when it started behaving oddly, I put in a lightning to 3.5mm 
>> adapter to use some earphones.  When I put it in, the phone asked me 
>> whether this accessory was to use headphones and I said yes.  It also 
>> said something about being able to change this option later somewhere.
>> I'm no longer using the adapter as I was borrowing it for a few hours.
>> But I'm wondering if somehow that made safari go wrong.  But I can't 
>> find where to change that option - have looked everywhere I can think 
>> and searched in settings.  Perhaps anything relating to that adapter 
>> would only appear when I connect it again.  I'm going to borrow it 
>> again but has anyone any idea where I'd look for info about/to change 
>> options relating to that adapter?
>> 
>> If not, I guess it's a phone reset...
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Catherine
>> 
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Re: Strange focus/reading problems in Safari on my iphone

2021-01-10 Thread Phil Halton
I have to agree with Brett hear about the screen recognition feature. I have 
found it to do nothing but cause problems with apps and Safari. It may have a 
future but currently it really screws up the performance of apps and the 
Internet. I would definitely try turning it off completely from within 
voiceover/voice recognition settings. Image descriptions on the other hand are 
somewhat useful and don’t cause performance problems at all.

Sent from my IPhone


> On Jan 10, 2021, at 11:15 AM, Brett Lewis  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Do you have the screen recognition turned on by any chance?
> This is under settings accessibility voiceover and voiceover recognition.
> Make sure it’s turned off for safari. I should note you can add it to the 
> rotor and then turn it on for each app as you move, I just don’t know if it’s 
> part of your rotor.
> Hope that helps.
> 
> 
>> On Jan 10, 2021, at 1:45 AM, 'Catherine Turner' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I'm having a weird problem with safari on my iphone which basically
>> makes safari unusable.  When I try to edit/type a web address, VO does
>> not read the keyboard, though I'm told by a sighted person that it's
>> there - VO just makes those sounds on it like it does when there's
>> nothing on the screen.  Even if I double tap where the keys show,
>> nothing appears in the address bar.  Additionally, the buttons at the
>> bottom of safari for "back", "forward", "bookmarks" e.t.c. are just
>> announced by VO as "left arrow" for back, "right arrow" for forward
>> and nothing at all except "tab" for the others - it calls them "tab"
>> instead of "button" like it does normally.  Apparently the icons for
>> those buttons do look different to normal.
>> 
>> If I view a page via the gmail app - where it opens the link kind of
>> in safari within gmail - all is normal and fine.  But if I press that
>> button which says "open in safari" it goes to the normal safari and
>> goes wrong/odd again.
>> 
>> I tried closing all the tabs, quitting and restarting safari,
>> restarting my phone and restarting VO which made no difference.
>> 
>> Does this ring any bells for anyone?
>> 
>> I checked to see if there any ios updates available and there aren't.
>> The only other thing I can think of that might have made a difference
>> was that yesterday, in between the time safari was working normally
>> and when it started behaving oddly, I put in a lightning to 3.5mm
>> adapter to use some earphones.  When I put it in, the phone asked me
>> whether this accessory was to use headphones and I said yes.  It also
>> said something about being able to change this option later somewhere.
>> I'm no longer using the adapter as I was borrowing it for a few hours.
>> But I'm wondering if somehow that made safari go wrong.  But I can't
>> find where to change that option - have looked everywhere I can think
>> and searched in settings.  Perhaps anything relating to that adapter
>> would only appear when I connect it again.  I'm going to borrow it
>> again but has anyone any idea where I'd look for info about/to change
>> options relating to that adapter?
>> 
>> If not, I guess it's a phone reset...
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Catherine
>> 
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Re: Strange focus/reading problems in Safari on my iphone

2021-01-10 Thread Brett Lewis
Hi,
Do you have the screen recognition turned on by any chance?
This is under settings accessibility voiceover and voiceover recognition.
Make sure it’s turned off for safari. I should note you can add it to the rotor 
and then turn it on for each app as you move, I just don’t know if it’s part of 
your rotor.
Hope that helps.


> On Jan 10, 2021, at 1:45 AM, 'Catherine Turner' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm having a weird problem with safari on my iphone which basically
> makes safari unusable.  When I try to edit/type a web address, VO does
> not read the keyboard, though I'm told by a sighted person that it's
> there - VO just makes those sounds on it like it does when there's
> nothing on the screen.  Even if I double tap where the keys show,
> nothing appears in the address bar.  Additionally, the buttons at the
> bottom of safari for "back", "forward", "bookmarks" e.t.c. are just
> announced by VO as "left arrow" for back, "right arrow" for forward
> and nothing at all except "tab" for the others - it calls them "tab"
> instead of "button" like it does normally.  Apparently the icons for
> those buttons do look different to normal.
> 
> If I view a page via the gmail app - where it opens the link kind of
> in safari within gmail - all is normal and fine.  But if I press that
> button which says "open in safari" it goes to the normal safari and
> goes wrong/odd again.
> 
> I tried closing all the tabs, quitting and restarting safari,
> restarting my phone and restarting VO which made no difference.
> 
> Does this ring any bells for anyone?
> 
> I checked to see if there any ios updates available and there aren't.
> The only other thing I can think of that might have made a difference
> was that yesterday, in between the time safari was working normally
> and when it started behaving oddly, I put in a lightning to 3.5mm
> adapter to use some earphones.  When I put it in, the phone asked me
> whether this accessory was to use headphones and I said yes.  It also
> said something about being able to change this option later somewhere.
> I'm no longer using the adapter as I was borrowing it for a few hours.
> But I'm wondering if somehow that made safari go wrong.  But I can't
> find where to change that option - have looked everywhere I can think
> and searched in settings.  Perhaps anything relating to that adapter
> would only appear when I connect it again.  I'm going to borrow it
> again but has anyone any idea where I'd look for info about/to change
> options relating to that adapter?
> 
> If not, I guess it's a phone reset...
> 
> Thanks,
> Catherine
> 
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Strange focus/reading problems in Safari on my iphone

2021-01-10 Thread 'Catherine Turner' via MacVisionaries
Hi,

I'm having a weird problem with safari on my iphone which basically
makes safari unusable.  When I try to edit/type a web address, VO does
not read the keyboard, though I'm told by a sighted person that it's
there - VO just makes those sounds on it like it does when there's
nothing on the screen.  Even if I double tap where the keys show,
nothing appears in the address bar.  Additionally, the buttons at the
bottom of safari for "back", "forward", "bookmarks" e.t.c. are just
announced by VO as "left arrow" for back, "right arrow" for forward
and nothing at all except "tab" for the others - it calls them "tab"
instead of "button" like it does normally.  Apparently the icons for
those buttons do look different to normal.

If I view a page via the gmail app - where it opens the link kind of
in safari within gmail - all is normal and fine.  But if I press that
button which says "open in safari" it goes to the normal safari and
goes wrong/odd again.

I tried closing all the tabs, quitting and restarting safari,
restarting my phone and restarting VO which made no difference.

Does this ring any bells for anyone?

I checked to see if there any ios updates available and there aren't.
The only other thing I can think of that might have made a difference
was that yesterday, in between the time safari was working normally
and when it started behaving oddly, I put in a lightning to 3.5mm
adapter to use some earphones.  When I put it in, the phone asked me
whether this accessory was to use headphones and I said yes.  It also
said something about being able to change this option later somewhere.
I'm no longer using the adapter as I was borrowing it for a few hours.
But I'm wondering if somehow that made safari go wrong.  But I can't
find where to change that option - have looked everywhere I can think
and searched in settings.  Perhaps anything relating to that adapter
would only appear when I connect it again.  I'm going to borrow it
again but has anyone any idea where I'd look for info about/to change
options relating to that adapter?

If not, I guess it's a phone reset...

Thanks,
Catherine

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Re: Problems with Safari

2015-04-28 Thread 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Sounds like you got the same infection my parents did. I still haven't 
rooted it all out but whatever you do, don't call the number or give 
them your credit card.


CB

On 4/27/15 2:48 PM, KristeenHughes wrote:
Jonathan, I tried your fix, but when I went back into Safari after 
turning my WIFI back on, I received the Mac support window and a man 
named Jake began a live chat with me. He asked me if I was 
experiencing problems with my Mac as a Michigan Comcast customer. He 
told me he was there to help me but recommended I call the toll free 
number. I didn’t know I was having problems and don’t understand 
what’s going on. I will open a page and in the middle of the regular 
links on the page this link appears for Mac global deals and a link to 
close it. I do that and then I get the Mac support message, which 
until Jake tried to chat with me has always been a loop I couldn’t get 
out of unless I force quit safari with command+option+escape.


Kristeen
On Apr 26, 2015, at 1:37 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn jon.c.c...@gmail.com 
mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com wrote:


If you got to the same ad cycle i got to
Here is what's i did
1. Turn off network or unplug if you are using wired ethernet.
2. Exit safari and then go back into safari.
3. Close every window in safari.
4. Reconnect the network.


Jonathan Cohn

On Apr 26, 2015, at 12:03 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote:


My choice is Clamsav, which is free in the Mac App Store. I know 
there are a few other options, but I haven't used any, except for 
Addware Medic (also free, but not from the App Store).
On Apr 26, 2015, at 11:42 AM, KristeenHughes khwi...@gmail.com 
mailto:khwi...@gmail.com wrote:


Safari is not usable at all now, because it is always busy. Before 
this happened, it slowed down a great deal and every few minutes a 
window would come up that said I had some problem. Sometimes it was 
a virus, sometimes a Windows PC warning, but always something that 
I should attend too. Are there apps that are VO friendly that I can 
use for virus checking and other potential threats to the Mac?


Thanks in advance.

Kristeen

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Re: Problems with Safari

2015-04-27 Thread KristeenHughes
Jonathan, I tried your fix, but when I went back into Safari after turning my 
WIFI back on, I received the Mac support window and a man named Jake began a 
live chat with me. He asked me if I was experiencing problems with my Mac as a 
Michigan Comcast customer. He told me he was there to help me but recommended I 
call the toll free number. I didn’t know I was having problems and don’t 
understand what’s going on. I will open a page and in the middle of the regular 
links on the page this link appears for Mac global deals and a link to close 
it. I do that and then I get the Mac support message, which until Jake tried to 
chat with me has always been a loop I couldn’t get out of unless I force quit 
safari with command+option+escape.

Kristeen
 On Apr 26, 2015, at 1:37 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn jon.c.c...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If you got to the same ad cycle i got to 
 Here is what's i did 
 1. Turn off network or unplug if you are using wired ethernet. 
 2. Exit safari and then go back into safari.
 3. Close every window in safari.
 4. Reconnect the network. 
 
 
 Jonathan Cohn 
 
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 My choice is Clamsav, which is free in the Mac App Store. I know there are a 
 few other options, but I haven't used any, except for Addware Medic (also 
 free, but not from the App Store).
 On Apr 26, 2015, at 11:42 AM, KristeenHughes khwi...@gmail.com 
 mailto:khwi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Safari is not usable at all now, because it is always busy. Before this 
 happened, it slowed down a great deal and every few minutes a window would 
 come up that said I had some problem. Sometimes it was a virus, sometimes a 
 Windows PC warning, but always something that I should attend too. Are 
 there apps that are VO friendly that I can use for virus checking and other 
 potential threats to the Mac?
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
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Re: Problems with Safari

2015-04-26 Thread Alex Hall
My choice is Clamsav, which is free in the Mac App Store. I know there are a 
few other options, but I haven't used any, except for Addware Medic (also free, 
but not from the App Store).
 On Apr 26, 2015, at 11:42 AM, KristeenHughes khwi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Safari is not usable at all now, because it is always busy. Before this 
 happened, it slowed down a great deal and every few minutes a window would 
 come up that said I had some problem. Sometimes it was a virus, sometimes a 
 Windows PC warning, but always something that I should attend too. Are there 
 apps that are VO friendly that I can use for virus checking and other 
 potential threats to the Mac?
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
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Problems with Safari

2015-04-26 Thread KristeenHughes
Safari is not usable at all now, because it is always busy. Before this 
happened, it slowed down a great deal and every few minutes a window would come 
up that said I had some problem. Sometimes it was a virus, sometimes a Windows 
PC warning, but always something that I should attend too. Are there apps that 
are VO friendly that I can use for virus checking and other potential threats 
to the Mac?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Problems with Safari

2015-04-26 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn
If you got to the same ad cycle i got to 
Here is what's i did 
1. Turn off network or unplug if you are using wired ethernet. 
2. Exit safari and then go back into safari.
3. Close every window in safari.
4. Reconnect the network. 


Jonathan Cohn 

 On Apr 26, 2015, at 12:03 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 My choice is Clamsav, which is free in the Mac App Store. I know there are a 
 few other options, but I haven't used any, except for Addware Medic (also 
 free, but not from the App Store).
 On Apr 26, 2015, at 11:42 AM, KristeenHughes khwi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Safari is not usable at all now, because it is always busy. Before this 
 happened, it slowed down a great deal and every few minutes a window would 
 come up that said I had some problem. Sometimes it was a virus, sometimes a 
 Windows PC warning, but always something that I should attend too. Are there 
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Re: Problems with Safari.

2011-01-04 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Ok, I'll try Web Kit.

Sent From My I Phone

On 4 Jan 2011, at 12:29 AM, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello. Try webkit. This is a few months at least ahead of safari and most of 
 the time more stable.
 
 go to http://webkit.org for more info.
 
 S
 On Jan 3, 2011, at 1:51 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
 
 Hi.
 
 I am having problems with Safari.
 
 I can't open any website without Safari quitting.  I have cleared all the 
 history.  I only formatted my Mac Book Pro a week ago so have not been on 
 Safari often.  Safari is always crashing and Voice over always reporting it 
 busy.
 
 Anyone having problems with Safari?  I do not use the kit as I don't feel 
 confident enough to install that over Safari.  Also I don't wish to clutter 
 my machine as Voice over isn't very responsive at times.  Safari used to be 
 excellent when I got my Mac Book Pro but it's declining and Safari is so 
 much better on the I phone 4.
 
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Problems with Safari.

2011-01-03 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Hi.

I am having problems with Safari.

I can't open any website without Safari quitting.  I have cleared all the 
history.  I only formatted my Mac Book Pro a week ago so have not been on 
Safari often.  Safari is always crashing and Voice over always reporting it 
busy.

Anyone having problems with Safari?  I do not use the kit as I don't feel 
confident enough to install that over Safari.  Also I don't wish to clutter my 
machine as Voice over isn't very responsive at times.  Safari used to be 
excellent when I got my Mac Book Pro but it's declining and Safari is so much 
better on the I phone 4.

Kawal.

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Re: Problems with Safari.

2011-01-03 Thread Kimberly thurman
Kawal:
I have used Web Kit for a very long time now and believe me, it is no trouble 
to install.   You just download it and place it in your applications folder 
like you would any other app.  Don't let any fears of installation stop you 
from using Web Kit.  It really does work very well.
On Jan 3, 2011, at 4:51 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

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Re: Problems with Safari.

2011-01-03 Thread Sarah Alawami
Hello. Try webkit. This is a few months at least ahead of safari and most of 
the time more stable.

go to http://webkit.org for more info.

S
On Jan 3, 2011, at 1:51 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

 Hi.
 
 I am having problems with Safari.
 
 I can't open any website without Safari quitting.  I have cleared all the 
 history.  I only formatted my Mac Book Pro a week ago so have not been on 
 Safari often.  Safari is always crashing and Voice over always reporting it 
 busy.
 
 Anyone having problems with Safari?  I do not use the kit as I don't feel 
 confident enough to install that over Safari.  Also I don't wish to clutter 
 my machine as Voice over isn't very responsive at times.  Safari used to be 
 excellent when I got my Mac Book Pro but it's declining and Safari is so much 
 better on the I phone 4.
 
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problems with safari google

2010-08-23 Thread peter apgar
Good day,

 I have been able to use google until this morning.  After editing 
one's search criteria VO comes back with an empty window.  Has something 
changed so that google is no longer accessible?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: problems with safari google

2010-08-23 Thread Sarah Alawami
I know google is going through an update to there page. did you try a refresh 
of the page to see if that helped? if not try it in webkit found at 
www.webkit.org.

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I have been able to use google until this morning.  After editing 
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 Thanks in advance.
 
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Re: problems with safari google

2010-08-23 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Hi Alison.

I've just had such a crash with Safari and Google!  Guess I'll have to use 
Windows to do my search  then.

Kawal.
On 23 Aug 2010, at 17:25, Allison Manzino wrote:

 Hi Pete,
 
 I found out that in trying to do a search with Google VO will quit and 
 restart.  I found the only way to do a search on google is to use Webkit. I 
 hope that helps. I thought this bug was fixed  with the release of the new 
 Safari, but I guess not. I hope I've been of some help. Have a great day.
 
 Musically,
 Allison
 
 My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar!
 
 
 On Aug 23, 2010, at 10:34 AM, peter apgar wrote:
 
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Re: problems with safari google

2010-08-23 Thread Larry Skutchan
For some reason, you can still do a google search from the search widget. It 
looks like it loads the exact same page of results, but doing it from the 
Google page sure makes VO unhappy.
On Aug 23, 2010, at 12:25 PM, Allison Manzino wrote:

 Hi Pete,
 
 I found out that in trying to do a search with Google VO will quit and 
 restart.  I found the only way to do a search on google is to use Webkit. I 
 hope that helps. I thought this bug was fixed  with the release of the new 
 Safari, but I guess not. I hope I've been of some help. Have a great day.
 
 Musically,
 Allison
 
 My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar!
 
 
 On Aug 23, 2010, at 10:34 AM, peter apgar wrote:
 
 Good day,
 
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Re: problems with safari google

2010-08-23 Thread Chris Blouch
Yup. I was able to reproduce. Latest Safari on the search results page 
causes voiceover to crash and restart over and over. Webkit nightly 
build works fine. So it sounds like it isn't necessarily a Google or 
Voiceover issue but rather some bug in Safari.


CB

Allison Manzino wrote:

Hi Pete,

I found out that in trying to do a search with Google VO will quit and restart. 
 I found the only way to do a search on google is to use Webkit. I hope that 
helps. I thought this bug was fixed  with the release of the new Safari, but I 
guess not. I hope I've been of some help. Have a great day.

Musically,
Allison

My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar!


On Aug 23, 2010, at 10:34 AM, peter apgar wrote:

  

Good day,

 I have been able to use google until this morning.  After editing 
one's search criteria VO comes back with an empty window.  Has something 
changed so that google is no longer accessible?

Thanks in advance.

Pete

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Re: problems with safari google

2010-08-23 Thread Anne Robertson
I'm not having any problems at all with Safari and Google.

I press Command-Option-f to get to the Google search field, enter my terms and 
press Return.

When I hear the page load, I press VO-Command-l 3 times to get to the first 
result.

I have web navigation set to Groups mode. I do this endless times throughout 
the day and have never had a problem.

Cheers,

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Re: problems with safari google

2010-08-23 Thread Paul Mills
Hi all
I'm having the same problem in Safari, but it is most definitely not limited to 
Google. I downloaded and installed Webkit, this has reduced the problem 
significantly. Incidently, I encountered the problem after the latest version 
of Safari was installed, perhaps coincidence.
Cheers,

Paul Mills.
On 23 Aug 2010, at 17:38, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

 Hi Alison.
 
 I've just had such a crash with Safari and Google!  Guess I'll have to use 
 Windows to do my search  then.
 
 Kawal.
 On 23 Aug 2010, at 17:25, Allison Manzino wrote:
 
 Hi Pete,
 
 I found out that in trying to do a search with Google VO will quit and 
 restart.  I found the only way to do a search on google is to use Webkit. I 
 hope that helps. I thought this bug was fixed  with the release of the new 
 Safari, but I guess not. I hope I've been of some help. Have a great day.
 
 Musically,
 Allison
 
 My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar!
 
 
 On Aug 23, 2010, at 10:34 AM, peter apgar wrote:
 
 Good day,
 
  I have been able to use google until this morning.  After editing 
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Re: problems with safari google

2010-08-23 Thread Lynn Schneider
One thing I found that helped was to sign into Google with my Google ID and 
tell it to keep me signed in.  I don't know if this will help in the long term, 
but it did help when I did that just recently.  Of course, if you don't have a 
Google ID, that won't help unfortunately.


On Aug 23, 2010, at 3:34 PM, Paul Mills wrote:

 Hi all
 I'm having the same problem in Safari, but it is most definitely not limited 
 to Google. I downloaded and installed Webkit, this has reduced the problem 
 significantly. Incidently, I encountered the problem after the latest version 
 of Safari was installed, perhaps coincidence.
 Cheers,
 
 Paul Mills.
 On 23 Aug 2010, at 17:38, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
 
 Hi Alison.
 
 I've just had such a crash with Safari and Google!  Guess I'll have to use 
 Windows to do my search  then.
 
 Kawal.
 On 23 Aug 2010, at 17:25, Allison Manzino wrote:
 
 Hi Pete,
 
 I found out that in trying to do a search with Google VO will quit and 
 restart.  I found the only way to do a search on google is to use Webkit. I 
 hope that helps. I thought this bug was fixed  with the release of the new 
 Safari, but I guess not. I hope I've been of some help. Have a great day.
 
 Musically,
 Allison
 
 My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar!
 
 
 On Aug 23, 2010, at 10:34 AM, peter apgar wrote:
 
 Good day,
 
 I have been able to use google until this morning.  After editing 
 one's search criteria VO comes back with an empty window.  Has something 
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Re: problems with safari google

2010-08-23 Thread peter apgar
I have tried to follow these instructions.  However VO restarts every time i 
try to navigate.  i guess i will need to load WEB KIT.

Thanks to everyone for there responses.

Pete
On Aug 23, 2010, at 1:52 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:

 I'm not having any problems at all with Safari and Google.
 
 I press Command-Option-f to get to the Google search field, enter my terms 
 and press Return.
 
 When I hear the page load, I press VO-Command-l 3 times to get to the first 
 result.
 
 I have web navigation set to Groups mode. I do this endless times throughout 
 the day and have never had a problem.
 
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Re: problems with safari google

2010-08-23 Thread Sarah Alawami
Hmm. I thoguht google fixed the update issue? or I thought they were aware of 
it? Ok?

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On Aug 23, 2010, at 9:25 AM, Allison Manzino wrote:

 Hi Pete,
 
 I found out that in trying to do a search with Google VO will quit and 
 restart.  I found the only way to do a search on google is to use Webkit. I 
 hope that helps. I thought this bug was fixed  with the release of the new 
 Safari, but I guess not. I hope I've been of some help. Have a great day.
 
 Musically,
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 On Aug 23, 2010, at 10:34 AM, peter apgar wrote:
 
 Good day,
 
   I have been able to use google until this morning.  After editing 
 one's search criteria VO comes back with an empty window.  Has something 
 changed so that google is no longer accessible?
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
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Re: problems with safari google

2010-08-23 Thread Sarah Alawami
Yep looks like it is only the google main page that causes problems not the 
tool bar. I dunno what's up. but I would thorugh the safari menu report this 
bug to apple so they can look at it and perhaps report to google about it. 
Remember tp explain what conditions it is under in the edit text field.

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On Aug 23, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:

 I'm not having any problems at all with Safari and Google.
 
 I press Command-Option-f to get to the Google search field, enter my terms 
 and press Return.
 
 When I hear the page load, I press VO-Command-l 3 times to get to the first 
 result.
 
 I have web navigation set to Groups mode. I do this endless times throughout 
 the day and have never had a problem.
 
 Cheers,
 
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