subject:"Re\: iPad Models"

n, 
>>>>>>>> but I'd have to confirm that, and I'm on my Mac right now, not my iPad.
>>>>>>>> HTH,
>>>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 6:47 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>   Simon, on the iPad, what is the keyboard equivalent of the 4 finger 
>>>>>>>>> tap to go to top or bottom of the screen?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>>>>>>>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>>>>>>>> in the past. What if it were true?
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>>>>>>>>> On 1/3/2020 3:07 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Mini 5 has pretty much the same chip as the current iPad pro 11 & 12 
>>>>>>>>>> inch devices.
>>>>>>>>>> Same with the iPad air 10 inch.
>>>>>>>>>> All of them now allow for the same gestures such as flick up from 
>>>>>>>>>> the bottm of the screen to the appswitcher,
>>>>>>>>>> Down one vibration  for control panel /  two vibrations for 
>>>>>>>>>> notification manager.
>>>>>>>>>> The only thing the mini lacks is face id which I’ve got no issue 
>>>>>>>>>> with.
>>>>>>>>>> *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> *On Behalf Of *matthew dyer
>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, 4 January 2020 11:23 AM
>>>>>>>>>> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: iPad Models
>>>>>>>>>> Hi e.t. The ipad mini uses the a12 chip.  I think the iphone 8 uses 
>>>>>>>>>> the a10 chip.  HTH.
>>>>>>>>>> Matthew
>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 3, 2020 1:17 AM, "'E.T.' via MacVisionaries" 
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>Simon,
>>>>>>>>>> I like the mini 4 only because it is the only iPad I have 
>>>>>>>>>> used,
>>>>>>>>>>except for the mini 3. Just took a quick look at specs and 
>>>>>>>>>> prices. The
>>>>>>>>>>mini 5 might do well. I'm getring used to the BT keyboard which 
>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>connect to up to 3 devices. And there is iCloud Drive so all 
>>>>>>>>>> devices
>>>>>>>>>>can
>>>>>>>>>>share.
>>>>>>>>>> Given the difference in cost between Pro and mini, I can 
>>>>>>>>>> live with
>>>>>>>>>>the mini. I don't know what chip the mini 4 has but my iPhone 8 
>>>>>>>>>> has it
>>>>>>>>>>beat. :) Ok found the chip. Yes the mini 5 will almost match the 
>>>>>>>>>> iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>8. Close enough.
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Simon. Appreciate the overview.
>>>>>>>>>>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>>>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com> 
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>>>>>>>>>>Many believe that we have been visited
>>>>>>>>>>in the past. What if it were true?
>>>>>>>>>>On 1/2/2020 9:35 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
>>>>>>>>>

Re: iPad Models


   Doesn't work for me.

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On 1/4/2020 6:59 PM, Brad Snyder wrote:
FYI - on your iPad using a keyboard, When accessing the Notification 
Center or Control Center, rather than first using VO + M, to first go to 
the Status bar, and then doing either OPTION + Up or Down Arrow, try 
doing Fn + VO + Up or Down Arrow from anywhere, and see if this works 
for you.


- Brad -


On Jan 4, 2020, at 17:51, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:


   First go to the status bar VO-M then Option-Down for the Control 
Center and Option-Up for the Notification Center.


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On 1/4/2020 3:41 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

I don’t even know the commands for those. What are they?
Cheers,
Donna
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 4, 2020, at 5:39 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
<mailto:Macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:


   Another one that seems to need QN on is the control and 
notification centers.


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On 1/4/2020 2:08 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
Yes.
Cheers,
Donna
Sent from my iPad
On Jan 4, 2020, at 2:39 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
<mailto:Macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:


   I have looked at so much, uh, stuff while researching things 
related to iPadOS and could have missed this. So if I leave QN on, 
will I also be able to go to the top or bottom within containers 
like what we see in Settings?


  One more goodie is pressing and holding Command to get keyboard 
hints. Nice. What about context menus? A single finger triple tap 
brings that up? Is there a keyboard shortcut? I am in burn out mode 
but will recover quickly now that progress is being made. :)


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On 1/4/2020 12:23 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
Oh, sorry! I assumed that you knew that. Yes, when using a 
Bluetooth keyboard with an iPad, you want quick NAV on most of the 
time. The only time you really want to turn it off is when you are 
typing in a document or an edit field.

Cheers,
Donna
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 4, 2020, at 1:36 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
<mailto:Macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:


Donna,
  Found out that Quick Nav has to be on for this to work. 
Interesting.


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On 1/4/2020 6:46 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
Hey ET,
On my Logitech SlimCombo, it is Control left arrow to go to top 
of screen. On the home screen, pressing CTRL-right Arrow once 
takes you to the dock, and pressing it again takes you to 
Suggestions. On other screens, I think pressing it once just 
takes you to bottom of screen, but I'd have to confirm that, and 
I'm on my Mac right now, not my iPad.

HTH,
Donna
On Jan 3, 2020, at 6:47 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:


  Simon, on the iPad, what is the keyboard equivalent of the 4 
finger tap to go to top or bottom of the screen?


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On 1/3/2020 3:07 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
Mini 5 has pretty much the same chip as the current iPad pro 
11 & 12 inch devices.

Same with the iPad air 10 inch.
All of them now allow for the same gestures such as flick up 
from the bottm of the screen to the appswitcher,
Down one vibration  for control panel /  two vibrations for 
notification manager.
The only thing the mini lacks is face id which I’ve got no 
issue with.
*From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> *On Behalf Of 
*matthew dyer

*Sent:* Saturday, 4 January 2020 11:23 AM
*To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>

*Subject:* Re: iPad Models
Hi e.t. The ipad mini uses the a12 chip.  I think the iphone 8 
uses the a10 chip.  HTH.

Matthew
On Jan 3, 2020 1:17 AM, "'E.T.' via MacVisionaries" 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

   Simon,
I like the mini 4 only because it is the only iPad I 
have used,
   except for the mini 3. Just took a quick look at

Re: iPad Models

FYI - on your iPad using a keyboard, When accessing the Notification Center or 
Control Center, rather than first using VO + M, to first go to the Status bar, 
and then doing either OPTION + Up or Down Arrow, try doing Fn + VO + Up or Down 
Arrow from anywhere, and see if this works for you.

- Brad -


On Jan 4, 2020, at 17:51, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

  First go to the status bar VO-M then Option-Down for the Control Center and 
Option-Up for the Notification Center.

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On 1/4/2020 3:41 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> I don’t even know the commands for those. What are they?
> Cheers,
> Donna
> Sent from my iPhone
>> On Jan 4, 2020, at 5:39 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>    Another one that seems to need QN on is the control and notification 
>> centers.
>> 
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>> 
>>> On 1/4/2020 2:08 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> Yes.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>> On Jan 4, 2020, at 2:39 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>    I have looked at so much, uh, stuff while researching things related 
>>>> to iPadOS and could have missed this. So if I leave QN on, will I also be 
>>>> able to go to the top or bottom within containers like what we see in 
>>>> Settings?
>>>> 
>>>>   One more goodie is pressing and holding Command to get keyboard hints. 
>>>> Nice. What about context menus? A single finger triple tap brings that up? 
>>>> Is there a keyboard shortcut? I am in burn out mode but will recover 
>>>> quickly now that progress is being made. :)
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>>> On 1/4/2020 12:23 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>>> Oh, sorry! I assumed that you knew that. Yes, when using a Bluetooth 
>>>>> keyboard with an iPad, you want quick NAV on most of the time. The only 
>>>>> time you really want to turn it off is when you are typing in a document 
>>>>> or an edit field.
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Donna
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> On Jan 4, 2020, at 1:36 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Donna,
>>>>>>   Found out that Quick Nav has to be on for this to work. Interesting.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>>>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 1/4/2020 6:46 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>>>>> Hey ET,
>>>>>>> On my Logitech SlimCombo, it is Control left arrow to go to top of 
>>>>>>> screen. On the home screen, pressing CTRL-right Arrow once takes you to 
>>>>>>> the dock, and pressing it again takes you to Suggestions. On other 
>>>>>>> screens, I think pressing it once just takes you to bottom of screen, 
>>>>>>> but I'd have to confirm that, and I'm on my Mac right now, not my iPad.
>>>>>>> HTH,
>>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>>>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 6:47 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>   Simon, on the iPad, what is the keyboard equivalent of the 4 finger 
>>>>>>>> tap to go to top or bottom of the screen?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>>>>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>>>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>>>>>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 1/3/2020 3:07 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Mini 5 has pretty much the same chip as the current iPad pro 11 & 12 
>>>>>>>>> inch

Re: iPad Models

First go to the status bar VO-M then Option-Down for the Control
Center and Option-Up for the Notification Center.

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On 1/4/2020 3:41 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

I don’t even know the commands for those. What are they?
Cheers,
Donna

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 4, 2020, at 5:39 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
wrote:

Another one that seems to need QN on is the control and notification
centers.

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On 1/4/2020 2:08 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
Yes.
Cheers,
Donna
Sent from my iPad

On Jan 4, 2020, at 2:39 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
wrote:

I have looked at so much, uh, stuff while researching things related to
iPadOS and could have missed this. So if I leave QN on, will I also be able to
go to the top or bottom within containers like what we see in Settings?

One more goodie is pressing and holding Command to get keyboard hints. Nice.
What about context menus? A single finger triple tap brings that up? Is there a
keyboard shortcut? I am in burn out mode but will recover quickly now that
progress is being made. :)

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On 1/4/2020 12:23 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
Oh, sorry! I assumed that you knew that. Yes, when using a Bluetooth keyboard
with an iPad, you want quick NAV on most of the time. The only time you really
want to turn it off is when you are typing in a document or an edit field.
Cheers,
Donna
Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 4, 2020, at 1:36 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
wrote:

Donna,
Found out that Quick Nav has to be on for this to work. Interesting.

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On 1/4/2020 6:46 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
Hey ET,
On my Logitech SlimCombo, it is Control left arrow to go to top of screen. On
the home screen, pressing CTRL-right Arrow once takes you to the dock, and
pressing it again takes you to Suggestions. On other screens, I think pressing
it once just takes you to bottom of screen, but I'd have to confirm that, and
I'm on my Mac right now, not my iPad.
HTH,
Donna

On Jan 3, 2020, at 6:47 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
wrote:

Simon, on the iPad, what is the keyboard equivalent of the 4 finger tap to
go to top or bottom of the screen?

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On 1/3/2020 3:07 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:

Mini 5 has pretty much the same chip as the current iPad pro 11 & 12 inch
devices.
Same with the iPad air 10 inch.
All of them now allow for the same gestures such as flick up from the bottm of
the screen to the appswitcher,
Down one vibration for control panel / two vibrations for notification
manager.
The only thing the mini lacks is face id which I’ve got no issue with.
*From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *On
Behalf Of *matthew dyer
*Sent:* Saturday, 4 January 2020 11:23 AM
*To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: iPad Models
Hi e.t. The ipad mini uses the a12 chip. I think the iphone 8 uses the a10
chip. HTH.
Matthew
On Jan 3, 2020 1:17 AM, "'E.T.' via MacVisionaries" mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
Simon,
I like the mini 4 only because it is the only iPad I have used,
except for the mini 3. Just took a quick look at specs and prices. The
mini 5 might do well. I'm getring used to the BT keyboard which can
connect to up to 3 devices. And there is iCloud Drive so all devices
can
share.
Given the difference in cost between Pro and mini, I can live with
the mini. I don't know what chip the mini 4 has but my iPhone 8 has it
beat. :) Ok found the chip. Yes the mini 5 will almost match the iPhone
8. Close enough.
Thanks Simon. Appreciate the overview.
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On 1/2/2020 9:35 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
> I found the pro I had great,
>
> That's an 11" with smart keyboard etc,
>
> I never connected to a 1TB drive But I did connect to my network
drive to view a movie and that worked fine.
>
> The air I viewed as being just a slightly larger screen size
which now takes a smart keyboard folio and first gen pencil,
> But doesn't have the quad speakers
> Face ID
>
> The other thing to think about though

Re: iPad Models

2020-01-04 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries

I don’t even know the commands for those. What are they?
Cheers,
Donna

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 4, 2020, at 5:39 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>    Another one that seems to need QN on is the control and notification 
> centers.
> 
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> 
>> On 1/4/2020 2:08 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Yes.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> On Jan 4, 2020, at 2:39 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>    I have looked at so much, uh, stuff while researching things related to 
>>> iPadOS and could have missed this. So if I leave QN on, will I also be able 
>>> to go to the top or bottom within containers like what we see in Settings?
>>> 
>>>   One more goodie is pressing and holding Command to get keyboard hints. 
>>> Nice. What about context menus? A single finger triple tap brings that up? 
>>> Is there a keyboard shortcut? I am in burn out mode but will recover 
>>> quickly now that progress is being made. :)
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> 
>>>> On 1/4/2020 12:23 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>> Oh, sorry! I assumed that you knew that. Yes, when using a Bluetooth 
>>>> keyboard with an iPad, you want quick NAV on most of the time. The only 
>>>> time you really want to turn it off is when you are typing in a document 
>>>> or an edit field.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Donna
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> On Jan 4, 2020, at 1:36 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Donna,
>>>>>   Found out that Quick Nav has to be on for this to work. Interesting.
>>>>> 
>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 1/4/2020 6:46 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>>>> Hey ET,
>>>>>> On my Logitech SlimCombo, it is Control left arrow to go to top of 
>>>>>> screen. On the home screen, pressing CTRL-right Arrow once takes you to 
>>>>>> the dock, and pressing it again takes you to Suggestions. On other 
>>>>>> screens, I think pressing it once just takes you to bottom of screen, 
>>>>>> but I'd have to confirm that, and I'm on my Mac right now, not my iPad.
>>>>>> HTH,
>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 6:47 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>   Simon, on the iPad, what is the keyboard equivalent of the 4 finger 
>>>>>>> tap to go to top or bottom of the screen?
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 1/3/2020 3:07 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
>>>>>>>> Mini 5 has pretty much the same chip as the current iPad pro 11 & 12 
>>>>>>>> inch devices.
>>>>>>>> Same with the iPad air 10 inch.
>>>>>>>> All of them now allow for the same gestures such as flick up from the 
>>>>>>>> bottm of the screen to the appswitcher,
>>>>>>>> Down one vibration  for control panel /  two vibrations for 
>>>>>>>> notification manager.
>>>>>>>> The only thing the mini lacks is face id which I’ve got no issue with.
>>>>>>>> *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>>>>  *On Behalf Of *matthew dyer
>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, 4 January 2020 11:23 AM
>>>>>>>> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: iPad Models
>>>>>>>> Hi e.t. The ipad mini uses the a12 chip.  I think the iphone 8 uses 
>>>>>>>> the a10 chip.  HTH.
>

Re: iPad Models

   Another one that seems to need QN on is the control and notification 
centers.

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On 1/4/2020 2:08 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Yes.
Cheers,
Donna

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 4, 2020, at 2:39 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

   I have looked at so much, uh, stuff while researching things related to 
iPadOS and could have missed this. So if I leave QN on, will I also be able to 
go to the top or bottom within containers like what we see in Settings?

   One more goodie is pressing and holding Command to get keyboard hints. Nice. 
What about context menus? A single finger triple tap brings that up? Is there a 
keyboard shortcut? I am in burn out mode but will recover quickly now that 
progress is being made. :)

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On 1/4/2020 12:23 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
Oh, sorry! I assumed that you knew that. Yes, when using a Bluetooth keyboard 
with an iPad, you want quick NAV on most of the time. The only time you really 
want to turn it off is when you are typing in a document or an edit field.
Cheers,
Donna
Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 4, 2020, at 1:36 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Donna,
   Found out that Quick Nav has to be on for this to work. Interesting.

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On 1/4/2020 6:46 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
Hey ET,
On my Logitech SlimCombo, it is Control left arrow to go to top of screen. On 
the home screen, pressing CTRL-right Arrow once takes you to the dock, and 
pressing it again takes you to Suggestions. On other screens, I think pressing 
it once just takes you to bottom of screen, but I'd have to confirm that, and 
I'm on my Mac right now, not my iPad.
HTH,
Donna

On Jan 3, 2020, at 6:47 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

   Simon, on the iPad, what is the keyboard equivalent of the 4 finger tap to 
go to top or bottom of the screen?

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On 1/3/2020 3:07 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:

Mini 5 has pretty much the same chip as the current iPad pro 11 & 12 inch 
devices.
Same with the iPad air 10 inch.
All of them now allow for the same gestures such as flick up from the bottm of 
the screen to the appswitcher,
Down one vibration  for control panel /  two vibrations for notification 
manager.
The only thing the mini lacks is face id which I’ve got no issue with.
*From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  *On 
Behalf Of *matthew dyer
*Sent:* Saturday, 4 January 2020 11:23 AM
*To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: iPad Models
Hi e.t. The ipad mini uses the a12 chip.  I think the iphone 8 uses the a10 
chip.  HTH.
Matthew
On Jan 3, 2020 1:17 AM, "'E.T.' via MacVisionaries" mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
Simon,
 I like the mini 4 only because it is the only iPad I have used,
except for the mini 3. Just took a quick look at specs and prices. The
mini 5 might do well. I'm getring used to the BT keyboard which can
connect to up to 3 devices. And there is iCloud Drive so all devices
can
share.
 Given the difference in cost between Pro and mini, I can live with
the mini. I don't know what chip the mini 4 has but my iPhone 8 has it
beat. :) Ok found the chip. Yes the mini 5 will almost match the iPhone
8. Close enough.
 Thanks Simon. Appreciate the overview.
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On 1/2/2020 9:35 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
 > I found the pro I had great,
 >
 > That's an 11" with smart keyboard etc,
 >
 > I never connected to a 1TB drive But I did connect to my network
drive to view a movie and that worked fine.
 >
 > The air I viewed as being just a slightly larger screen size
which now takes a smart keyboard folio and first gen pencil,
 > But doesn't have the quad speakers
 > Face ID
 >
 > The other thing to think about though is if your liking the iPad
mini 4
 > Then the iPad mini 5 has features of the pro / air but just in
the smaller profile.
 >
 >   Th eonly thing I'm not happy about with the mini 5 is I can't
find a good quality keyboard folio
 > I'd love to see apple produce a pro mini version
 > Or at least a mini with the folio keyboard and face id.
 > Good luck.
 >
 >
 > -Original Message-
 >

Re: iPad Models

2020-01-04 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries

Hmm I wonder if that’s the difference. I thought about that keyboard, but I 
decided I wanted function keys.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 4, 2020, at 4:41 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> I’m using the Apple Magic Bluetooth keyboard.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Jan 4, 2020, at 15:49, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> What keyboard are you using? If I don't have QN enabled on my iPad, my 
> ability to navigate the screen using the keyboard is very limited. For 
> example, the CTRL-right arrow command to go to the top of the screen only 
> works when QN is on. If it is off, nothing happens when you press that key 
> combination. I'd love to know if there's a way to use the iPad without QN, 
> because frankly I hate having to use it.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Jan 4, 2020, at 3:44 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> Same as on the Mac.  It is essentially the same.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 4, 2020, at 14:59, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> How do you do that? I never use QuickNav on the Mac, but my experience is 
>> that if I don't use it on the iPad, none of the navigation commands work at 
>> all.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Jan 4, 2020, at 2:38 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think that is a personal preference.  Just as on my Mac, I rarely use 
>>> QuickNav when using a keyboard on my iPad Pro.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 4, 2020, at 14:23, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Oh, sorry! I assumed that you knew that. Yes, when using a Bluetooth 
>>> keyboard with an iPad, you want quick NAV on most of the time. The only 
>>> time you really want to turn it off is when you are typing in a document or 
>>> an edit field.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 4, 2020, at 1:36 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Donna,
>>>>  Found out that Quick Nav has to be on for this to work. Interesting.
>>>> 
>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>>> 
>>>>> On 1/4/2020 6:46 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>>> Hey ET,
>>>>> On my Logitech SlimCombo, it is Control left arrow to go to top of 
>>>>> screen. On the home screen, pressing CTRL-right Arrow once takes you to 
>>>>> the dock, and pressing it again takes you to Suggestions. On other 
>>>>> screens, I think pressing it once just takes you to bottom of screen, but 
>>>>> I'd have to confirm that, and I'm on my Mac right now, not my iPad.
>>>>> HTH,
>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 6:47 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Simon, on the iPad, what is the keyboard equivalent of the 4 finger tap 
>>>>>> to go to top or bottom of the screen?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>>>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>>>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 1/3/2020 3:07 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
>>>>>>> Mini 5 has pretty much the same chip as the current iPad pro 11 & 12 
>>>>>>> inch devices.
>>>>>>> Same with the iPad air 10 inch.
>>>>>>> All of them now allow for the same gestures such as flick up from the 
>>>>>>> bottm of the screen to the appswitcher,
>>>>>>> Down one vibration  for control panel /  two vibrations for 
>>>>>>> notification manager.
>>>>>>> The only thing the mini lacks is face id which I’ve got no issue with.
>>>>>>> *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>>>  *On Behalf Of *matthew dyer
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, 4 January 2020 11:23 AM
>>>>>>> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: iPad Models
>>>>>>> Hi e.t. The ipad mini uses the a12 chip.  I think the iphone 8 uses the 
>>>>>>> a10 chip.  HTH.
>>>>>>> Matthew
>>>>&g

Re: iPad Models

I’m using the Apple Magic Bluetooth keyboard.

- Brad -


On Jan 4, 2020, at 15:49, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

What keyboard are you using? If I don't have QN enabled on my iPad, my ability 
to navigate the screen using the keyboard is very limited. For example, the 
CTRL-right arrow command to go to the top of the screen only works when QN is 
on. If it is off, nothing happens when you press that key combination. I'd love 
to know if there's a way to use the iPad without QN, because frankly I hate 
having to use it.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Jan 4, 2020, at 3:44 PM, Brad Snyder  <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
> 
> Same as on the Mac.  It is essentially the same.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Jan 4, 2020, at 14:59, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> How do you do that? I never use QuickNav on the Mac, but my experience is 
> that if I don't use it on the iPad, none of the navigation commands work at 
> all.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Jan 4, 2020, at 2:38 PM, Brad Snyder > <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> I think that is a personal preference.  Just as on my Mac, I rarely use 
>> QuickNav when using a keyboard on my iPad Pro.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 4, 2020, at 14:23, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Oh, sorry! I assumed that you knew that. Yes, when using a Bluetooth 
>> keyboard with an iPad, you want quick NAV on most of the time. The only time 
>> you really want to turn it off is when you are typing in a document or an 
>> edit field.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 4, 2020, at 1:36 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:Macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Donna,
>>>  Found out that Quick Nav has to be on for this to work. Interesting.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> 
>>>> On 1/4/2020 6:46 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>> Hey ET,
>>>> On my Logitech SlimCombo, it is Control left arrow to go to top of screen. 
>>>> On the home screen, pressing CTRL-right Arrow once takes you to the dock, 
>>>> and pressing it again takes you to Suggestions. On other screens, I think 
>>>> pressing it once just takes you to bottom of screen, but I'd have to 
>>>> confirm that, and I'm on my Mac right now, not my iPad.
>>>> HTH,
>>>> Donna
>>>>>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 6:47 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>> >>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Simon, on the iPad, what is the keyboard equivalent of the 4 finger tap 
>>>>> to go to top or bottom of the screen?
>>>>> 
>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>>>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 1/3/2020 3:07 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
>>>>>> Mini 5 has pretty much the same chip as the current iPad pro 11 & 12 
>>>>>> inch devices.
>>>>>> Same with the iPad air 10 inch.
>>>>>> All of them now allow for the same gestures such as flick up from the 
>>>>>> bottm of the screen to the appswitcher,
>>>>>> Down one vibration  for control panel /  two vibrations for notification 
>>>>>> manager.
>>>>>> The only thing the mini lacks is face id which I’ve got no issue with.
>>>>>> *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>>>>>> >>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> *On Behalf Of *matthew dyer
>>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, 4 January 2020 11:23 AM
>>>>>> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: iPad Models
>>>>>> Hi e.t. The ipad mini uses the a12 chip.  I think the iphone 8 uses the 
>>>>>> a10 chip.  HTH.
>>>>>> Matthew
>>>>>> On

Re: iPad Models

2020-01-04 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries

Yes.
Cheers,
Donna

Sent from my iPad

> On Jan 4, 2020, at 2:39 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>    I have looked at so much, uh, stuff while researching things related to 
> iPadOS and could have missed this. So if I leave QN on, will I also be able 
> to go to the top or bottom within containers like what we see in Settings?
> 
>   One more goodie is pressing and holding Command to get keyboard hints. 
> Nice. What about context menus? A single finger triple tap brings that up? Is 
> there a keyboard shortcut? I am in burn out mode but will recover quickly now 
> that progress is being made. :)
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
>> On 1/4/2020 12:23 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Oh, sorry! I assumed that you knew that. Yes, when using a Bluetooth 
>> keyboard with an iPad, you want quick NAV on most of the time. The only time 
>> you really want to turn it off is when you are typing in a document or an 
>> edit field.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> On Jan 4, 2020, at 1:36 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Donna,
>>>   Found out that Quick Nav has to be on for this to work. Interesting.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> 
>>>> On 1/4/2020 6:46 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>> Hey ET,
>>>> On my Logitech SlimCombo, it is Control left arrow to go to top of screen. 
>>>> On the home screen, pressing CTRL-right Arrow once takes you to the dock, 
>>>> and pressing it again takes you to Suggestions. On other screens, I think 
>>>> pressing it once just takes you to bottom of screen, but I'd have to 
>>>> confirm that, and I'm on my Mac right now, not my iPad.
>>>> HTH,
>>>> Donna
>>>>>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 6:47 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>   Simon, on the iPad, what is the keyboard equivalent of the 4 finger tap 
>>>>> to go to top or bottom of the screen?
>>>>> 
>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 1/3/2020 3:07 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
>>>>>> Mini 5 has pretty much the same chip as the current iPad pro 11 & 12 
>>>>>> inch devices.
>>>>>> Same with the iPad air 10 inch.
>>>>>> All of them now allow for the same gestures such as flick up from the 
>>>>>> bottm of the screen to the appswitcher,
>>>>>> Down one vibration  for control panel /  two vibrations for notification 
>>>>>> manager.
>>>>>> The only thing the mini lacks is face id which I’ve got no issue with.
>>>>>> *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
>>>>>> *On Behalf Of *matthew dyer
>>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, 4 January 2020 11:23 AM
>>>>>> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: iPad Models
>>>>>> Hi e.t. The ipad mini uses the a12 chip.  I think the iphone 8 uses the 
>>>>>> a10 chip.  HTH.
>>>>>> Matthew
>>>>>> On Jan 3, 2020 1:17 AM, "'E.T.' via MacVisionaries" 
>>>>>> >>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>Simon,
>>>>>> I like the mini 4 only because it is the only iPad I have used,
>>>>>>except for the mini 3. Just took a quick look at specs and prices. The
>>>>>>mini 5 might do well. I'm getring used to the BT keyboard which can
>>>>>>connect to up to 3 devices. And there is iCloud Drive so all devices
>>>>>>can
>>>>>>share.
>>>>>> Given the difference in cost between Pro and mini, I can live 
>>>>>> with
>>>>>>the mini. I don't know what chip the mini 4 has but my iPhone 8 has it
>>>>>>beat. :) Ok found the chip. Yes the mini 5 will almost match the 
>>>>>> iPhone
>>>>>>8. Close enough.
>>>>>>

Re: iPad Models

2020-01-04 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries

What keyboard are you using? If I don't have QN enabled on my iPad, my ability 
to navigate the screen using the keyboard is very limited. For example, the 
CTRL-right arrow command to go to the top of the screen only works when QN is 
on. If it is off, nothing happens when you press that key combination. I'd love 
to know if there's a way to use the iPad without QN, because frankly I hate 
having to use it.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Jan 4, 2020, at 3:44 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Same as on the Mac.  It is essentially the same.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Jan 4, 2020, at 14:59, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> How do you do that? I never use QuickNav on the Mac, but my experience is 
> that if I don't use it on the iPad, none of the navigation commands work at 
> all.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Jan 4, 2020, at 2:38 PM, Brad Snyder > <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> I think that is a personal preference.  Just as on my Mac, I rarely use 
>> QuickNav when using a keyboard on my iPad Pro.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 4, 2020, at 14:23, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Oh, sorry! I assumed that you knew that. Yes, when using a Bluetooth 
>> keyboard with an iPad, you want quick NAV on most of the time. The only time 
>> you really want to turn it off is when you are typing in a document or an 
>> edit field.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 4, 2020, at 1:36 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:Macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Donna,
>>>  Found out that Quick Nav has to be on for this to work. Interesting.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> 
>>>> On 1/4/2020 6:46 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>> Hey ET,
>>>> On my Logitech SlimCombo, it is Control left arrow to go to top of screen. 
>>>> On the home screen, pressing CTRL-right Arrow once takes you to the dock, 
>>>> and pressing it again takes you to Suggestions. On other screens, I think 
>>>> pressing it once just takes you to bottom of screen, but I'd have to 
>>>> confirm that, and I'm on my Mac right now, not my iPad.
>>>> HTH,
>>>> Donna
>>>>>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 6:47 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>> >>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Simon, on the iPad, what is the keyboard equivalent of the 4 finger tap 
>>>>> to go to top or bottom of the screen?
>>>>> 
>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>>>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 1/3/2020 3:07 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
>>>>>> Mini 5 has pretty much the same chip as the current iPad pro 11 & 12 
>>>>>> inch devices.
>>>>>> Same with the iPad air 10 inch.
>>>>>> All of them now allow for the same gestures such as flick up from the 
>>>>>> bottm of the screen to the appswitcher,
>>>>>> Down one vibration  for control panel /  two vibrations for notification 
>>>>>> manager.
>>>>>> The only thing the mini lacks is face id which I’ve got no issue with.
>>>>>> *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>>>>>> >>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> *On Behalf Of *matthew dyer
>>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, 4 January 2020 11:23 AM
>>>>>> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: iPad Models
>>>>>> Hi e.t. The ipad mini uses the a12 chip.  I think the iphone 8 uses the 
>>>>>> a10 chip.  HTH.
>>>>>> Matthew
>>>>>> On Jan 3, 2020 1:17 AM, "'E.T.' via MacVisionaries" 
>>>>>> >>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>>>

Re: iPad Models

Same as on the Mac.  It is essentially the same.

- Brad -


On Jan 4, 2020, at 14:59, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

How do you do that? I never use QuickNav on the Mac, but my experience is that 
if I don't use it on the iPad, none of the navigation commands work at all.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Jan 4, 2020, at 2:38 PM, Brad Snyder  <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
> 
> I think that is a personal preference.  Just as on my Mac, I rarely use 
> QuickNav when using a keyboard on my iPad Pro.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Jan 4, 2020, at 14:23, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Oh, sorry! I assumed that you knew that. Yes, when using a Bluetooth keyboard 
> with an iPad, you want quick NAV on most of the time. The only time you 
> really want to turn it off is when you are typing in a document or an edit 
> field.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 4, 2020, at 1:36 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:Macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Donna,
>>  Found out that Quick Nav has to be on for this to work. Interesting.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>> 
>>> On 1/4/2020 6:46 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> Hey ET,
>>> On my Logitech SlimCombo, it is Control left arrow to go to top of screen. 
>>> On the home screen, pressing CTRL-right Arrow once takes you to the dock, 
>>> and pressing it again takes you to Suggestions. On other screens, I think 
>>> pressing it once just takes you to bottom of screen, but I'd have to 
>>> confirm that, and I'm on my Mac right now, not my iPad.
>>> HTH,
>>> Donna
>>>>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 6:47 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>> >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>  Simon, on the iPad, what is the keyboard equivalent of the 4 finger tap 
>>>> to go to top or bottom of the screen?
>>>> 
>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>>> 
>>>> On 1/3/2020 3:07 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
>>>>> Mini 5 has pretty much the same chip as the current iPad pro 11 & 12 inch 
>>>>> devices.
>>>>> Same with the iPad air 10 inch.
>>>>> All of them now allow for the same gestures such as flick up from the 
>>>>> bottm of the screen to the appswitcher,
>>>>> Down one vibration  for control panel /  two vibrations for notification 
>>>>> manager.
>>>>> The only thing the mini lacks is face id which I’ve got no issue with.
>>>>> *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> *On Behalf Of *matthew dyer
>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, 4 January 2020 11:23 AM
>>>>> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: iPad Models
>>>>> Hi e.t. The ipad mini uses the a12 chip.  I think the iphone 8 uses the 
>>>>> a10 chip.  HTH.
>>>>> Matthew
>>>>> On Jan 3, 2020 1:17 AM, "'E.T.' via MacVisionaries" 
>>>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>   Simon,
>>>>>I like the mini 4 only because it is the only iPad I have used,
>>>>>   except for the mini 3. Just took a quick look at specs and prices. The
>>>>>   mini 5 might do well. I'm getring used to the BT keyboard which can
>>>>>   connect to up to 3 devices. And there is iCloud Drive so all devices
>>>>>   can
>>>>>   share.
>>>>>Given the difference in cost between Pro and mini, I can live with
>>>>>   the mini. I don't know what chip the mini 4 has but my iPhone 8 has it
>>>>>   beat. :) Ok found the chip. Yes the mini 5 will almost match the iPhone
>>>>>   8. Close enough.
>>>>>Thanks Simon. App

Re: iPad Models

2020-01-04 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries

How do you do that? I never use QuickNav on the Mac, but my experience is that 
if I don't use it on the iPad, none of the navigation commands work at all.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Jan 4, 2020, at 2:38 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> I think that is a personal preference.  Just as on my Mac, I rarely use 
> QuickNav when using a keyboard on my iPad Pro.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Jan 4, 2020, at 14:23, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Oh, sorry! I assumed that you knew that. Yes, when using a Bluetooth keyboard 
> with an iPad, you want quick NAV on most of the time. The only time you 
> really want to turn it off is when you are typing in a document or an edit 
> field.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 4, 2020, at 1:36 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:Macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Donna,
>>  Found out that Quick Nav has to be on for this to work. Interesting.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>> 
>>> On 1/4/2020 6:46 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> Hey ET,
>>> On my Logitech SlimCombo, it is Control left arrow to go to top of screen. 
>>> On the home screen, pressing CTRL-right Arrow once takes you to the dock, 
>>> and pressing it again takes you to Suggestions. On other screens, I think 
>>> pressing it once just takes you to bottom of screen, but I'd have to 
>>> confirm that, and I'm on my Mac right now, not my iPad.
>>> HTH,
>>> Donna
>>>>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 6:47 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>> >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>  Simon, on the iPad, what is the keyboard equivalent of the 4 finger tap 
>>>> to go to top or bottom of the screen?
>>>> 
>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>>> 
>>>> On 1/3/2020 3:07 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
>>>>> Mini 5 has pretty much the same chip as the current iPad pro 11 & 12 inch 
>>>>> devices.
>>>>> Same with the iPad air 10 inch.
>>>>> All of them now allow for the same gestures such as flick up from the 
>>>>> bottm of the screen to the appswitcher,
>>>>> Down one vibration  for control panel /  two vibrations for notification 
>>>>> manager.
>>>>> The only thing the mini lacks is face id which I’ve got no issue with.
>>>>> *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> *On Behalf Of *matthew dyer
>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, 4 January 2020 11:23 AM
>>>>> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: iPad Models
>>>>> Hi e.t. The ipad mini uses the a12 chip.  I think the iphone 8 uses the 
>>>>> a10 chip.  HTH.
>>>>> Matthew
>>>>> On Jan 3, 2020 1:17 AM, "'E.T.' via MacVisionaries" 
>>>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>   Simon,
>>>>>I like the mini 4 only because it is the only iPad I have used,
>>>>>   except for the mini 3. Just took a quick look at specs and prices. The
>>>>>   mini 5 might do well. I'm getring used to the BT keyboard which can
>>>>>   connect to up to 3 devices. And there is iCloud Drive so all devices
>>>>>   can
>>>>>   share.
>>>>>Given the difference in cost between Pro and mini, I can live with
>>>>>   the mini. I don't know what chip the mini 4 has but my iPhone 8 has it
>>>>>   beat. :) Ok found the chip. Yes the mini 5 will almost match the iPhone
>>>>>   8. Close enough.
>>>>>Thanks Simon. Appreciate the overview.
>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com> 
>&

Re: iPad Models

   I have looked at so much, uh, stuff while researching things related 
to iPadOS and could have missed this. So if I leave QN on, will I also 
be able to go to the top or bottom within containers like what we see in 
Settings?

   One more goodie is pressing and holding Command to get keyboard 
hints. Nice. What about context menus? A single finger triple tap brings 
that up? Is there a keyboard shortcut? I am in burn out mode but will 
recover quickly now that progress is being made. :)

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 1/4/2020 12:23 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Oh, sorry! I assumed that you knew that. Yes, when using a Bluetooth keyboard 
with an iPad, you want quick NAV on most of the time. The only time you really 
want to turn it off is when you are typing in a document or an edit field.
Cheers,
Donna

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 4, 2020, at 1:36 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Donna,
   Found out that Quick Nav has to be on for this to work. Interesting.

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On 1/4/2020 6:46 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
Hey ET,
On my Logitech SlimCombo, it is Control left arrow to go to top of screen. On 
the home screen, pressing CTRL-right Arrow once takes you to the dock, and 
pressing it again takes you to Suggestions. On other screens, I think pressing 
it once just takes you to bottom of screen, but I'd have to confirm that, and 
I'm on my Mac right now, not my iPad.
HTH,
Donna

On Jan 3, 2020, at 6:47 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

   Simon, on the iPad, what is the keyboard equivalent of the 4 finger tap to 
go to top or bottom of the screen?

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On 1/3/2020 3:07 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:

Mini 5 has pretty much the same chip as the current iPad pro 11 & 12 inch 
devices.
Same with the iPad air 10 inch.
All of them now allow for the same gestures such as flick up from the bottm of 
the screen to the appswitcher,
Down one vibration  for control panel /  two vibrations for notification 
manager.
The only thing the mini lacks is face id which I’ve got no issue with.
*From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  *On 
Behalf Of *matthew dyer
*Sent:* Saturday, 4 January 2020 11:23 AM
*To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: iPad Models
Hi e.t. The ipad mini uses the a12 chip.  I think the iphone 8 uses the a10 
chip.  HTH.
Matthew
On Jan 3, 2020 1:17 AM, "'E.T.' via MacVisionaries" mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
Simon,
 I like the mini 4 only because it is the only iPad I have used,
except for the mini 3. Just took a quick look at specs and prices. The
mini 5 might do well. I'm getring used to the BT keyboard which can
connect to up to 3 devices. And there is iCloud Drive so all devices
can
share.
 Given the difference in cost between Pro and mini, I can live with
the mini. I don't know what chip the mini 4 has but my iPhone 8 has it
beat. :) Ok found the chip. Yes the mini 5 will almost match the iPhone
8. Close enough.
 Thanks Simon. Appreciate the overview.
  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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On 1/2/2020 9:35 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
 > I found the pro I had great,
 >
 > That's an 11" with smart keyboard etc,
 >
 > I never connected to a 1TB drive But I did connect to my network
drive to view a movie and that worked fine.
 >
 > The air I viewed as being just a slightly larger screen size
which now takes a smart keyboard folio and first gen pencil,
 > But doesn't have the quad speakers
 > Face ID
 >
 > The other thing to think about though is if your liking the iPad
mini 4
 > Then the iPad mini 5 has features of the pro / air but just in
the smaller profile.
 >
 >   Th eonly thing I'm not happy about with the mini 5 is I can't
find a good quality keyboard folio
 > I'd love to see apple produce a pro mini version
 > Or at least a mini with the folio keyboard and face id.
 > Good luck.
 >
 >
 > -Original Message-
 > From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
 > Sent: Friday, 3 January 2020 5:21 PM
 > To: MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
 > Subject: iPad Models
 >
 >  I've an iPad mini 4. Been spending more time with it lately
and am curious to know the advantages of the Ai

Re: iPad Models

I think that is a personal preference.  Just as on my Mac, I rarely use 
QuickNav when using a keyboard on my iPad Pro.

- Brad -


On Jan 4, 2020, at 14:23, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Oh, sorry! I assumed that you knew that. Yes, when using a Bluetooth keyboard 
with an iPad, you want quick NAV on most of the time. The only time you really 
want to turn it off is when you are typing in a document or an edit field.
Cheers,
Donna

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> On Jan 4, 2020, at 1:36 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Donna,
>  Found out that Quick Nav has to be on for this to work. Interesting.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
>> On 1/4/2020 6:46 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hey ET,
>> On my Logitech SlimCombo, it is Control left arrow to go to top of screen. 
>> On the home screen, pressing CTRL-right Arrow once takes you to the dock, 
>> and pressing it again takes you to Suggestions. On other screens, I think 
>> pressing it once just takes you to bottom of screen, but I'd have to confirm 
>> that, and I'm on my Mac right now, not my iPad.
>> HTH,
>> Donna
>>>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 6:47 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Simon, on the iPad, what is the keyboard equivalent of the 4 finger tap to 
>>> go to top or bottom of the screen?
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> 
>>> On 1/3/2020 3:07 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
>>>> Mini 5 has pretty much the same chip as the current iPad pro 11 & 12 inch 
>>>> devices.
>>>> Same with the iPad air 10 inch.
>>>> All of them now allow for the same gestures such as flick up from the 
>>>> bottm of the screen to the appswitcher,
>>>> Down one vibration  for control panel /  two vibrations for notification 
>>>> manager.
>>>> The only thing the mini lacks is face id which I’ve got no issue with.
>>>> *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
>>>> *On Behalf Of *matthew dyer
>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, 4 January 2020 11:23 AM
>>>> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: iPad Models
>>>> Hi e.t. The ipad mini uses the a12 chip.  I think the iphone 8 uses the 
>>>> a10 chip.  HTH.
>>>> Matthew
>>>> On Jan 3, 2020 1:17 AM, "'E.T.' via MacVisionaries" 
>>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>   Simon,
>>>>I like the mini 4 only because it is the only iPad I have used,
>>>>   except for the mini 3. Just took a quick look at specs and prices. The
>>>>   mini 5 might do well. I'm getring used to the BT keyboard which can
>>>>   connect to up to 3 devices. And there is iCloud Drive so all devices
>>>>   can
>>>>   share.
>>>>Given the difference in cost between Pro and mini, I can live with
>>>>   the mini. I don't know what chip the mini 4 has but my iPhone 8 has it
>>>>   beat. :) Ok found the chip. Yes the mini 5 will almost match the iPhone
>>>>   8. Close enough.
>>>>Thanks Simon. Appreciate the overview.
>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>>>>   Many believe that we have been visited
>>>>   in the past. What if it were true?
>>>>   On 1/2/2020 9:35 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
>>>>> I found the pro I had great,
>>>>> 
>>>>> That's an 11" with smart keyboard etc,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I never connected to a 1TB drive But I did connect to my network
>>>>   drive to view a movie and that worked fine.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The air I viewed as being just a slightly larger screen size
>>>>   which now takes a smart keyboard folio and first gen pencil,
>>>>> But doesn't have the quad speakers
>>>>> Face ID
>>>>> 
>>>>> The other thing to think about though is if your liking the iPad
>>>>   mini 4
>>>>> Then the iPad mini 5 has features of the pro / air but just in
>>>>   the smaller profile.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Th eonly thing I'm not happy about with the mini 5 is I can't
>>>>   find a goo

Re: iPad Models

2020-01-04 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries

Oh, sorry! I assumed that you knew that. Yes, when using a Bluetooth keyboard 
with an iPad, you want quick NAV on most of the time. The only time you really 
want to turn it off is when you are typing in a document or an edit field.
Cheers,
Donna

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 4, 2020, at 1:36 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Donna,
>   Found out that Quick Nav has to be on for this to work. Interesting.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
>> On 1/4/2020 6:46 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hey ET,
>> On my Logitech SlimCombo, it is Control left arrow to go to top of screen. 
>> On the home screen, pressing CTRL-right Arrow once takes you to the dock, 
>> and pressing it again takes you to Suggestions. On other screens, I think 
>> pressing it once just takes you to bottom of screen, but I'd have to confirm 
>> that, and I'm on my Mac right now, not my iPad.
>> HTH,
>> Donna
>>>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 6:47 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>   Simon, on the iPad, what is the keyboard equivalent of the 4 finger tap 
>>> to go to top or bottom of the screen?
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> 
>>> On 1/3/2020 3:07 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
>>>> Mini 5 has pretty much the same chip as the current iPad pro 11 & 12 inch 
>>>> devices.
>>>> Same with the iPad air 10 inch.
>>>> All of them now allow for the same gestures such as flick up from the 
>>>> bottm of the screen to the appswitcher,
>>>> Down one vibration  for control panel /  two vibrations for notification 
>>>> manager.
>>>> The only thing the mini lacks is face id which I’ve got no issue with.
>>>> *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
>>>> *On Behalf Of *matthew dyer
>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, 4 January 2020 11:23 AM
>>>> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: iPad Models
>>>> Hi e.t. The ipad mini uses the a12 chip.  I think the iphone 8 uses the 
>>>> a10 chip.  HTH.
>>>> Matthew
>>>> On Jan 3, 2020 1:17 AM, "'E.T.' via MacVisionaries" 
>>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>Simon,
>>>> I like the mini 4 only because it is the only iPad I have used,
>>>>except for the mini 3. Just took a quick look at specs and prices. The
>>>>mini 5 might do well. I'm getring used to the BT keyboard which can
>>>>connect to up to 3 devices. And there is iCloud Drive so all devices
>>>>can
>>>>share.
>>>> Given the difference in cost between Pro and mini, I can live with
>>>>the mini. I don't know what chip the mini 4 has but my iPhone 8 has it
>>>>beat. :) Ok found the chip. Yes the mini 5 will almost match the iPhone
>>>>8. Close enough.
>>>> Thanks Simon. Appreciate the overview.
>>>>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>>>>Many believe that we have been visited
>>>>in the past. What if it were true?
>>>>On 1/2/2020 9:35 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
>>>> > I found the pro I had great,
>>>> >
>>>> > That's an 11" with smart keyboard etc,
>>>> >
>>>> > I never connected to a 1TB drive But I did connect to my network
>>>>drive to view a movie and that worked fine.
>>>> >
>>>> > The air I viewed as being just a slightly larger screen size
>>>>which now takes a smart keyboard folio and first gen pencil,
>>>> > But doesn't have the quad speakers
>>>> > Face ID
>>>> >
>>>> > The other thing to think about though is if your liking the iPad
>>>>mini 4
>>>> > Then the iPad mini 5 has features of the pro / air but just in
>>>>the smaller profile.
>>>> >
>>>> >   Th eonly thing I'm not happy about with the mini 5 is I can't
>>>>find a good quality keyboard folio
>>>> > I'd love to see apple produce a pro mini version

Re: iPad Models


Donna,
   Found out that Quick Nav has to be on for this to work. Interesting.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 1/4/2020 6:46 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hey ET,

On my Logitech SlimCombo, it is Control left arrow to go to top of screen. On 
the home screen, pressing CTRL-right Arrow once takes you to the dock, and 
pressing it again takes you to Suggestions. On other screens, I think pressing 
it once just takes you to bottom of screen, but I'd have to confirm that, and 
I'm on my Mac right now, not my iPad.
HTH,
Donna



On Jan 3, 2020, at 6:47 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

   Simon, on the iPad, what is the keyboard equivalent of the 4 finger tap to 
go to top or bottom of the screen?

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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On 1/3/2020 3:07 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:

Mini 5 has pretty much the same chip as the current iPad pro 11 & 12 inch 
devices.
Same with the iPad air 10 inch.
All of them now allow for the same gestures such as flick up from the bottm of 
the screen to the appswitcher,
Down one vibration  for control panel /  two vibrations for notification 
manager.
The only thing the mini lacks is face id which I’ve got no issue with.
*From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  *On 
Behalf Of *matthew dyer
*Sent:* Saturday, 4 January 2020 11:23 AM
*To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: iPad Models
Hi e.t. The ipad mini uses the a12 chip.  I think the iphone 8 uses the a10 
chip.  HTH.
Matthew
On Jan 3, 2020 1:17 AM, "'E.T.' via MacVisionaries" mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
Simon,
 I like the mini 4 only because it is the only iPad I have used,
except for the mini 3. Just took a quick look at specs and prices. The
mini 5 might do well. I'm getring used to the BT keyboard which can
connect to up to 3 devices. And there is iCloud Drive so all devices
can
share.
 Given the difference in cost between Pro and mini, I can live with
the mini. I don't know what chip the mini 4 has but my iPhone 8 has it
beat. :) Ok found the chip. Yes the mini 5 will almost match the iPhone
8. Close enough.
 Thanks Simon. Appreciate the overview.
  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?
On 1/2/2020 9:35 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
 > I found the pro I had great,
 >
 > That's an 11" with smart keyboard etc,
 >
 > I never connected to a 1TB drive But I did connect to my network
drive to view a movie and that worked fine.
 >
 > The air I viewed as being just a slightly larger screen size
which now takes a smart keyboard folio and first gen pencil,
 > But doesn't have the quad speakers
 > Face ID
 >
 > The other thing to think about though is if your liking the iPad
mini 4
 > Then the iPad mini 5 has features of the pro / air but just in
the smaller profile.
 >
 >   Th eonly thing I'm not happy about with the mini 5 is I can't
find a good quality keyboard folio
 > I'd love to see apple produce a pro mini version
 > Or at least a mini with the folio keyboard and face id.
 > Good luck.
 >
 >
 > -Original Message-
 > From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
 > Sent: Friday, 3 January 2020 5:21 PM
 > To: MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
 > Subject: iPad Models
 >
 >  I've an iPad mini 4. Been spending more time with it lately
and am curious to know the advantages of the Air as well as the  Pro
models.
 >
 >  One aspect of the Pro is ability to connect external drives.
Any limitations on what the Pro can access? Like a 1tb plus iTunes
library?
 > Thanks.
 >
 >   From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 > ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
 > Many believe that we have been visited
 > in the past. What if it were true?
 >
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 >
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Re: iPad Models

   That is the shortcuts I have tried. Hmm. I have the Logitech K780. 
Strange it does not work. Will have to poke around some more. Thanks.


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On 1/4/2020 6:46 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hey ET,

On my Logitech SlimCombo, it is Control left arrow to go to top of screen. On 
the home screen, pressing CTRL-right Arrow once takes you to the dock, and 
pressing it again takes you to Suggestions. On other screens, I think pressing 
it once just takes you to bottom of screen, but I'd have to confirm that, and 
I'm on my Mac right now, not my iPad.
HTH,
Donna



On Jan 3, 2020, at 6:47 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

   Simon, on the iPad, what is the keyboard equivalent of the 4 finger tap to 
go to top or bottom of the screen?

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 1/3/2020 3:07 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:

Mini 5 has pretty much the same chip as the current iPad pro 11 & 12 inch 
devices.
Same with the iPad air 10 inch.
All of them now allow for the same gestures such as flick up from the bottm of 
the screen to the appswitcher,
Down one vibration  for control panel /  two vibrations for notification 
manager.
The only thing the mini lacks is face id which I’ve got no issue with.
*From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  *On 
Behalf Of *matthew dyer
*Sent:* Saturday, 4 January 2020 11:23 AM
*To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: iPad Models
Hi e.t. The ipad mini uses the a12 chip.  I think the iphone 8 uses the a10 
chip.  HTH.
Matthew
On Jan 3, 2020 1:17 AM, "'E.T.' via MacVisionaries" mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
Simon,
 I like the mini 4 only because it is the only iPad I have used,
except for the mini 3. Just took a quick look at specs and prices. The
mini 5 might do well. I'm getring used to the BT keyboard which can
connect to up to 3 devices. And there is iCloud Drive so all devices
can
share.
 Given the difference in cost between Pro and mini, I can live with
the mini. I don't know what chip the mini 4 has but my iPhone 8 has it
beat. :) Ok found the chip. Yes the mini 5 will almost match the iPhone
8. Close enough.
 Thanks Simon. Appreciate the overview.
  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?
On 1/2/2020 9:35 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
 > I found the pro I had great,
 >
 > That's an 11" with smart keyboard etc,
 >
 > I never connected to a 1TB drive But I did connect to my network
drive to view a movie and that worked fine.
 >
 > The air I viewed as being just a slightly larger screen size
which now takes a smart keyboard folio and first gen pencil,
 > But doesn't have the quad speakers
 > Face ID
 >
 > The other thing to think about though is if your liking the iPad
mini 4
 > Then the iPad mini 5 has features of the pro / air but just in
the smaller profile.
 >
 >   Th eonly thing I'm not happy about with the mini 5 is I can't
find a good quality keyboard folio
 > I'd love to see apple produce a pro mini version
 > Or at least a mini with the folio keyboard and face id.
 > Good luck.
 >
 >
 > -Original Message-
 > From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
 > Sent: Friday, 3 January 2020 5:21 PM
 > To: MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
 > Subject: iPad Models
 >
 >  I've an iPad mini 4. Been spending more time with it lately
and am curious to know the advantages of the Air as well as the  Pro
models.
 >
 >  One aspect of the Pro is ability to connect external drives.
Any limitations on what the Pro can access? Like a 1tb plus iTunes
library?
 > Thanks.
 >
 >   From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 > ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
 > Many believe that we have been visited
 > in the past. What if it were true?
 >
 > --
 > The following information is important for all members of the Mac
Visionaries list.
 >
 > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this
list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please
contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the
list itself.
 >
 > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can
reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner

Re: iPad Models

2020-01-04 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries

Hey ET,

On my Logitech SlimCombo, it is Control left arrow to go to top of screen. On 
the home screen, pressing CTRL-right Arrow once takes you to the dock, and 
pressing it again takes you to Suggestions. On other screens, I think pressing 
it once just takes you to bottom of screen, but I'd have to confirm that, and 
I'm on my Mac right now, not my iPad.
HTH,
Donna


> On Jan 3, 2020, at 6:47 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   Simon, on the iPad, what is the keyboard equivalent of the 4 finger tap to 
> go to top or bottom of the screen?
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 1/3/2020 3:07 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
>> Mini 5 has pretty much the same chip as the current iPad pro 11 & 12 inch 
>> devices.
>> Same with the iPad air 10 inch.
>> All of them now allow for the same gestures such as flick up from the bottm 
>> of the screen to the appswitcher,
>> Down one vibration  for control panel /  two vibrations for notification 
>> manager.
>> The only thing the mini lacks is face id which I’ve got no issue with.
>> *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  *On 
>> Behalf Of *matthew dyer
>> *Sent:* Saturday, 4 January 2020 11:23 AM
>> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: iPad Models
>> Hi e.t. The ipad mini uses the a12 chip.  I think the iphone 8 uses the a10 
>> chip.  HTH.
>> Matthew
>> On Jan 3, 2020 1:17 AM, "'E.T.' via MacVisionaries" 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>>Simon,
>> I like the mini 4 only because it is the only iPad I have used,
>>except for the mini 3. Just took a quick look at specs and prices. The
>>mini 5 might do well. I'm getring used to the BT keyboard which can
>>connect to up to 3 devices. And there is iCloud Drive so all devices
>>can
>>share.
>> Given the difference in cost between Pro and mini, I can live with
>>the mini. I don't know what chip the mini 4 has but my iPhone 8 has it
>>beat. :) Ok found the chip. Yes the mini 5 will almost match the iPhone
>>8. Close enough.
>> Thanks Simon. Appreciate the overview.
>>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>>Many believe that we have been visited
>>in the past. What if it were true?
>>On 1/2/2020 9:35 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
>> > I found the pro I had great,
>> >
>> > That's an 11" with smart keyboard etc,
>> >
>> > I never connected to a 1TB drive But I did connect to my network
>>drive to view a movie and that worked fine.
>> >
>> > The air I viewed as being just a slightly larger screen size
>>which now takes a smart keyboard folio and first gen pencil,
>> > But doesn't have the quad speakers
>> > Face ID
>> >
>> > The other thing to think about though is if your liking the iPad
>>mini 4
>> > Then the iPad mini 5 has features of the pro / air but just in
>>the smaller profile.
>> >
>> >   Th eonly thing I'm not happy about with the mini 5 is I can't
>>find a good quality keyboard folio
>> > I'd love to see apple produce a pro mini version
>> > Or at least a mini with the folio keyboard and face id.
>> > Good luck.
>> >
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries ><mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
>> > Sent: Friday, 3 January 2020 5:21 PM
>> > To: MacVisionaries ><mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
>> > Subject: iPad Models
>> >
>> >  I've an iPad mini 4. Been spending more time with it lately
>>and am curious to know the advantages of the Air as well as the  Pro
>>models.
>> >
>> >  One aspect of the Pro is ability to connect external drives.
>>Any limitations on what the Pro can access? Like a 1tb plus iTunes
>>library?
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> >   From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> > ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>> > Many believe that we have been visited
>> > in the past. What if it were true?
>> >
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>> > The following information is important for all members of the Mac
>

Re: iPad Models

2020-01-03 Thread David Chittenden

In iOS and iPadOS, go to settings, accessibility, voiceover, Braille, the
more info button which follows the name of the braille display when right
flicking, braille commands. Here one finds all of the commands, and the
ability to change each command. It is customizable by braille display. In
other words, the commands can be different for each braille display.

On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 at 14:58, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries <
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> David,
> I'm looking for the keyboard shortcuts.
>
>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
>
> On 1/3/2020 8:21 PM, David Chittenden wrote:
> > four finger tap on the top of the screen move the cursor to the top. For
> > finger tap toward the bottom of the screen moves the cursor to the
> > bottom. For finger tap toward the left of the screen and four finger tap
> > toward the right of the screen have slightly different functions. I do
> > not remember these particular functions. All that said, remember that
> > all of your voice over commands are now programmable.
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> >
> >
> >
> > On 4 January 2020 10:47:25 "'E.T.' via MacVisionaries"
> >  wrote:
> >
> >> Simon, on the iPad, what is the keyboard equivalent of the 4 finger
> >> tap to go to top or bottom of the screen?
> >>
> >>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> >> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> >> Many believe that we have been visited
> >> in the past. What if it were true?
> >>
> >> On 1/3/2020 3:07 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
> >>> Mini 5 has pretty much the same chip as the current iPad pro 11 & 12
> >>> inch devices.
> >>>
> >>> Same with the iPad air 10 inch.
> >>>
> >>> All of them now allow for the same gestures such as flick up from the
> >>> bottm of the screen to the appswitcher,
> >>>
> >>> Down one vibration  for control panel /  two vibrations for
> notification
> >>> manager.
> >>>
> >>> The only thing the mini lacks is face id which I’ve got no issue with.
> >>>
> >>> *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <
> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> >>> *On Behalf Of *matthew dyer
> >>> *Sent:* Saturday, 4 January 2020 11:23 AM
> >>> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> >>> *Subject:* Re: iPad Models
> >>>
> >>> Hi e.t. The ipad mini uses the a12 chip.  I think the iphone 8 uses the
> >>> a10 chip.  HTH.
> >>>
> >>> Matthew
> >>>
> >>> On Jan 3, 2020 1:17 AM, "'E.T.' via MacVisionaries"
> >>>  >>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Simon,
> >>>  I like the mini 4 only because it is the only iPad I have
> used,
> >>> except for the mini 3. Just took a quick look at specs and
> >>> prices. The
> >>> mini 5 might do well. I'm getring used to the BT keyboard which can
> >>> connect to up to 3 devices. And there is iCloud Drive so all
> devices
> >>> can
> >>> share.
> >>>
> >>>  Given the difference in cost between Pro and mini, I can
> >>> live with
> >>> the mini. I don't know what chip the mini 4 has but my iPhone 8
> >>> has it
> >>> beat. :) Ok found the chip. Yes the mini 5 will almost match the
> >>> iPhone
> >>> 8. Close enough.
> >>>
> >>>  Thanks Simon. Appreciate the overview.
> >>>
> >>>   From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> >>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
> >>> Many believe that we have been visited
> >>> in the past. What if it were true?
> >>>
> >>> On 1/2/2020 9:35 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
> >>>  > I found the pro I had great,
> >>>  >
> >>>  > That's an 11" with smart keyboard etc,
> >>>  >
> >>>  > I never connected to a 1TB drive But I did connect to my network
> >>> drive to view a movie and that worked fine.
> >>>  >
> >>>  > The air I viewed as being just a slightly larger screen size
> >>> which now takes a smart keyboard folio and first

Re: iPad Models

David,
   I'm looking for the keyboard shortcuts.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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On 1/3/2020 8:21 PM, David Chittenden wrote:
four finger tap on the top of the screen move the cursor to the top. For 
finger tap toward the bottom of the screen moves the cursor to the 
bottom. For finger tap toward the left of the screen and four finger tap 
toward the right of the screen have slightly different functions. I do 
not remember these particular functions. All that said, remember that 
all of your voice over commands are now programmable.

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA

On 4 January 2020 10:47:25 "'E.T.' via MacVisionaries" 
 wrote:

    Simon, on the iPad, what is the keyboard equivalent of the 4 finger
tap to go to top or bottom of the screen?

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
    ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
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On 1/3/2020 3:07 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:

Mini 5 has pretty much the same chip as the current iPad pro 11 & 12
inch devices.

Same with the iPad air 10 inch.

All of them now allow for the same gestures such as flick up from the
bottm of the screen to the appswitcher,

Down one vibration  for control panel /  two vibrations for notification
manager.

The only thing the mini lacks is face id which I’ve got no issue with.

*From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
*On Behalf Of *matthew dyer
*Sent:* Saturday, 4 January 2020 11:23 AM
*To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: iPad Models

Hi e.t. The ipad mini uses the a12 chip.  I think the iphone 8 uses the
a10 chip.  HTH.

Matthew

On Jan 3, 2020 1:17 AM, "'E.T.' via MacVisionaries"
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

    Simon,
     I like the mini 4 only because it is the only iPad I have used,
    except for the mini 3. Just took a quick look at specs and 
prices. The

    mini 5 might do well. I'm getring used to the BT keyboard which can
    connect to up to 3 devices. And there is iCloud Drive so all devices
    can
    share.

     Given the difference in cost between Pro and mini, I can 
live with
    the mini. I don't know what chip the mini 4 has but my iPhone 8 
has it
    beat. :) Ok found the chip. Yes the mini 5 will almost match the 
iPhone

    8. Close enough.

     Thanks Simon. Appreciate the overview.

  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
    ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
    Many believe that we have been visited
    in the past. What if it were true?

    On 1/2/2020 9:35 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
 > I found the pro I had great,
 >
 > That's an 11" with smart keyboard etc,
 >
 > I never connected to a 1TB drive But I did connect to my network
    drive to view a movie and that worked fine.
 >
 > The air I viewed as being just a slightly larger screen size
    which now takes a smart keyboard folio and first gen pencil,
 > But doesn't have the quad speakers
 > Face ID
 >
 > The other thing to think about though is if your liking the iPad
    mini 4
 > Then the iPad mini 5 has features of the pro / air but just in
    the smaller profile.
 >
 >   Th eonly thing I'm not happy about with the mini 5 is I can't
    find a good quality keyboard folio
 > I'd love to see apple produce a pro mini version
 > Or at least a mini with the folio keyboard and face id.
 > Good luck.
 >
 >
 > -Original Message-
 > From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
 > Sent: Friday, 3 January 2020 5:21 PM
 > To: MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
 > Subject: iPad Models
 >
 >  I've an iPad mini 4. Been spending more time with it lately
    and am curious to know the advantages of the Air as well as the  Pro
    models.
 >
 >  One aspect of the Pro is ability to connect external drives.
    Any limitations on what the Pro can access? Like a 1tb plus iTunes
    library?
 > Thanks.
 >
 >   From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 > ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
 > Many believe that we have been visited
 > in the past. What if it were true?
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Re: iPad Models

2020-01-03 Thread David Chittenden

four finger tap on the top of the screen move the cursor to the top. For 
finger tap toward the bottom of the screen moves the cursor to the bottom. 
For finger tap toward the left of the screen and four finger tap toward the 
right of the screen have slightly different functions. I do not remember 
these particular functions. All that said, remember that all of your voice 
over commands are now programmable.

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA

On 4 January 2020 10:47:25 "'E.T.' via MacVisionaries" 
 wrote:

Simon, on the iPad, what is the keyboard equivalent of the 4 finger
tap to go to top or bottom of the screen?

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 1/3/2020 3:07 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:

Mini 5 has pretty much the same chip as the current iPad pro 11 & 12
inch devices.

Same with the iPad air 10 inch.

All of them now allow for the same gestures such as flick up from the
bottm of the screen to the appswitcher,

Down one vibration  for control panel /  two vibrations for notification
manager.

The only thing the mini lacks is face id which I’ve got no issue with.

*From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
*On Behalf Of *matthew dyer
*Sent:* Saturday, 4 January 2020 11:23 AM
*To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: iPad Models

Hi e.t. The ipad mini uses the a12 chip.  I think the iphone 8 uses the
a10 chip.  HTH.

Matthew

On Jan 3, 2020 1:17 AM, "'E.T.' via MacVisionaries"
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Simon,
     I like the mini 4 only because it is the only iPad I have used,
except for the mini 3. Just took a quick look at specs and prices. The
mini 5 might do well. I'm getring used to the BT keyboard which can
connect to up to 3 devices. And there is iCloud Drive so all devices
can
share.

     Given the difference in cost between Pro and mini, I can live with
the mini. I don't know what chip the mini 4 has but my iPhone 8 has it
beat. :) Ok found the chip. Yes the mini 5 will almost match the iPhone
8. Close enough.

     Thanks Simon. Appreciate the overview.

  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
Many believe that we have been visited
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On 1/2/2020 9:35 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
 > I found the pro I had great,
 >
 > That's an 11" with smart keyboard etc,
 >
 > I never connected to a 1TB drive But I did connect to my network
drive to view a movie and that worked fine.
 >
 > The air I viewed as being just a slightly larger screen size
which now takes a smart keyboard folio and first gen pencil,
 > But doesn't have the quad speakers
 > Face ID
 >
 > The other thing to think about though is if your liking the iPad
mini 4
 > Then the iPad mini 5 has features of the pro / air but just in
the smaller profile.
 >
 >   Th eonly thing I'm not happy about with the mini 5 is I can't
find a good quality keyboard folio
 > I'd love to see apple produce a pro mini version
 > Or at least a mini with the folio keyboard and face id.
 > Good luck.
 >
 >
 > -Original Message-
 > From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
 > Sent: Friday, 3 January 2020 5:21 PM
 > To: MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
 > Subject: iPad Models
 >
 >  I've an iPad mini 4. Been spending more time with it lately
and am curious to know the advantages of the Air as well as the  Pro
models.
 >
 >  One aspect of the Pro is ability to connect external drives.
Any limitations on what the Pro can access? Like a 1tb plus iTunes
library?
 > Thanks.
 >
 >   From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 > ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
 > Many believe that we have been visited
 > in the past. What if it were true?
 >
 > --
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Visionaries list.
 >
 > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this
list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please
contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the
list itself.
 >
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 >
 > The archives for this list can be searched at:
 >

https://nam10.

RE: iPad Models

I can't remember, and I can't check with my iPad mini as I don't have a 
keyboard with it.

I did a search in google and found this page but it's from Ios 9 by the looks 
of it and there may well be changes now.

Have a look, 
It's got shortcut keys for everything on the iPad
https://www.laptopmag.com/articles/every-ipad-keyboard-shortcut

sorry I can't be more helpful.


-Original Message-
From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Saturday, 4 January 2020 1:47 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPad Models

Simon, on the iPad, what is the keyboard equivalent of the 4 finger tap to 
go to top or bottom of the screen?

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 1/3/2020 3:07 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
> Mini 5 has pretty much the same chip as the current iPad pro 11 & 12 
> inch devices.
> 
> Same with the iPad air 10 inch.
> 
> All of them now allow for the same gestures such as flick up from the 
> bottm of the screen to the appswitcher,
> 
> Down one vibration  for control panel /  two vibrations for 
> notification manager.
> 
> The only thing the mini lacks is face id which I’ve got no issue with.
> 
> *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>  *On Behalf Of *matthew dyer
> *Sent:* Saturday, 4 January 2020 11:23 AM
> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: iPad Models
> 
> Hi e.t. The ipad mini uses the a12 chip.  I think the iphone 8 uses 
> the
> a10 chip.  HTH.
> 
> Matthew
> 
> On Jan 3, 2020 1:17 AM, "'E.T.' via MacVisionaries" 
>  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
> 
> Simon,
>      I like the mini 4 only because it is the only iPad I have used,
> except for the mini 3. Just took a quick look at specs and prices. The
> mini 5 might do well. I'm getring used to the BT keyboard which can
> connect to up to 3 devices. And there is iCloud Drive so all devices
> can
> share.
> 
>      Given the difference in cost between Pro and mini, I can live with
> the mini. I don't know what chip the mini 4 has but my iPhone 8 has it
> beat. :) Ok found the chip. Yes the mini 5 will almost match the iPhone
> 8. Close enough.
> 
>      Thanks Simon. Appreciate the overview.
> 
>   From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 1/2/2020 9:35 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
>  > I found the pro I had great,
>  >
>  > That's an 11" with smart keyboard etc,
>  >
>  > I never connected to a 1TB drive But I did connect to my network
> drive to view a movie and that worked fine.
>  >
>  > The air I viewed as being just a slightly larger screen size
> which now takes a smart keyboard folio and first gen pencil,
>  > But doesn't have the quad speakers
>  > Face ID
>  >
>  > The other thing to think about though is if your liking the iPad
> mini 4
>  > Then the iPad mini 5 has features of the pro / air but just in
> the smaller profile.
>  >
>  >   Th eonly thing I'm not happy about with the mini 5 is I can't
> find a good quality keyboard folio
>  > I'd love to see apple produce a pro mini version
>  > Or at least a mini with the folio keyboard and face id.
>  > Good luck.
>  >
>  >
>  > -Original Message-
>  > From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
>  > Sent: Friday, 3 January 2020 5:21 PM
>  > To: MacVisionaries  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
>  > Subject: iPad Models
>  >
>  >  I've an iPad mini 4. Been spending more time with it lately
> and am curious to know the advantages of the Air as well as the  Pro
> models.
>  >
>  >  One aspect of the Pro is ability to connect external drives.
> Any limitations on what the Pro can access? Like a 1tb plus iTunes
> library?
>  > Thanks.
>  >
>  >   From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  > ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>  > Many believe that we have been visited
>  > in the past. What if it were true?
>  >
>  > --
>  > The following information is important for all members of the Mac
> Visionaries list.
>  >
>  > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this
> list, or i

RE: iPad Models

Yeah the gestures changed between the older model standard pads and the iPad 
Pros.

Like what happened with the phones that have face id.

 But now the  newer versions of the standard iPads use the same gesture set as 
the Pros have.

So even with touch id the iPad mini 5 and ipad air (new) have the same gestures 
as the iPad pros with face id.

And I believe all the new phones both with and without face id have again the 
same gesture set over all but there are some slight differences.

Good luck.

-Original Message-
From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Saturday, 4 January 2020 12:17 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPad Models

Funny you mention gestures. I was just playing with them. Did not get too 
far but will get back to it later. The iPad user guide is not totally accurate 
which leads me to think there are some differences between models.

Yep I am fine with Touch ID. And the home button

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ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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On 1/3/2020 3:07 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
> Mini 5 has pretty much the same chip as the current iPad pro 11 & 12 
> inch devices.
> 
> Same with the iPad air 10 inch.
> 
> All of them now allow for the same gestures such as flick up from the 
> bottm of the screen to the appswitcher,
> 
> Down one vibration  for control panel /  two vibrations for 
> notification manager.
> 
> The only thing the mini lacks is face id which I’ve got no issue with.
> 
> *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>  *On Behalf Of *matthew dyer
> *Sent:* Saturday, 4 January 2020 11:23 AM
> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: iPad Models
> 
> Hi e.t. The ipad mini uses the a12 chip.  I think the iphone 8 uses 
> the
> a10 chip.  HTH.
> 
> Matthew
> 
> On Jan 3, 2020 1:17 AM, "'E.T.' via MacVisionaries" 
>  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
> 
> Simon,
>      I like the mini 4 only because it is the only iPad I have used,
> except for the mini 3. Just took a quick look at specs and prices. The
> mini 5 might do well. I'm getring used to the BT keyboard which can
> connect to up to 3 devices. And there is iCloud Drive so all devices
> can
> share.
> 
>      Given the difference in cost between Pro and mini, I can live with
> the mini. I don't know what chip the mini 4 has but my iPhone 8 has it
> beat. :) Ok found the chip. Yes the mini 5 will almost match the iPhone
> 8. Close enough.
> 
>      Thanks Simon. Appreciate the overview.
> 
>   From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 1/2/2020 9:35 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
>  > I found the pro I had great,
>  >
>  > That's an 11" with smart keyboard etc,
>  >
>  > I never connected to a 1TB drive But I did connect to my network
> drive to view a movie and that worked fine.
>  >
>  > The air I viewed as being just a slightly larger screen size
> which now takes a smart keyboard folio and first gen pencil,
>  > But doesn't have the quad speakers
>  > Face ID
>  >
>  > The other thing to think about though is if your liking the iPad
> mini 4
>  > Then the iPad mini 5 has features of the pro / air but just in
> the smaller profile.
>  >
>  >   Th eonly thing I'm not happy about with the mini 5 is I can't
> find a good quality keyboard folio
>  > I'd love to see apple produce a pro mini version
>  > Or at least a mini with the folio keyboard and face id.
>  > Good luck.
>  >
>  >
>  > -Original Message-
>  > From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
>  > Sent: Friday, 3 January 2020 5:21 PM
>  > To: MacVisionaries  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
>  > Subject: iPad Models
>  >
>  >  I've an iPad mini 4. Been spending more time with it lately
> and am curious to know the advantages of the Air as well as the  Pro
> models.
>  >
>  >  One aspect of the Pro is ability to connect external drives.
> Any limitations on what the Pro can access? Like a 1tb plus iTunes
> library?
>  > Thanks.
>  >
>  >   From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  > ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>  > Many believe that we have been visited
>

Re: iPad Models

   Simon, on the iPad, what is the keyboard equivalent of the 4 finger 
tap to go to top or bottom of the screen?

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 1/3/2020 3:07 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
Mini 5 has pretty much the same chip as the current iPad pro 11 & 12 
inch devices.

Same with the iPad air 10 inch.

All of them now allow for the same gestures such as flick up from the 
bottm of the screen to the appswitcher,

Down one vibration  for control panel /  two vibrations for notification 
manager.

The only thing the mini lacks is face id which I’ve got no issue with.

*From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
*On Behalf Of *matthew dyer

*Sent:* Saturday, 4 January 2020 11:23 AM
*To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: iPad Models

Hi e.t. The ipad mini uses the a12 chip.  I think the iphone 8 uses the 
a10 chip.  HTH.

Matthew

On Jan 3, 2020 1:17 AM, "'E.T.' via MacVisionaries" 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Simon,
     I like the mini 4 only because it is the only iPad I have used,
except for the mini 3. Just took a quick look at specs and prices. The
mini 5 might do well. I'm getring used to the BT keyboard which can
connect to up to 3 devices. And there is iCloud Drive so all devices
can
share.

     Given the difference in cost between Pro and mini, I can live with
the mini. I don't know what chip the mini 4 has but my iPhone 8 has it
beat. :) Ok found the chip. Yes the mini 5 will almost match the iPhone
8. Close enough.

     Thanks Simon. Appreciate the overview.

  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
Many believe that we have been visited
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On 1/2/2020 9:35 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
 > I found the pro I had great,
 >
 > That's an 11" with smart keyboard etc,
 >
 > I never connected to a 1TB drive But I did connect to my network
drive to view a movie and that worked fine.
 >
 > The air I viewed as being just a slightly larger screen size
which now takes a smart keyboard folio and first gen pencil,
 > But doesn't have the quad speakers
 > Face ID
 >
 > The other thing to think about though is if your liking the iPad
mini 4
 > Then the iPad mini 5 has features of the pro / air but just in
the smaller profile.
 >
 >   Th eonly thing I'm not happy about with the mini 5 is I can't
find a good quality keyboard folio
 > I'd love to see apple produce a pro mini version
 > Or at least a mini with the folio keyboard and face id.
 > Good luck.
 >
 >
 > -Original Message-
 > From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
 > Sent: Friday, 3 January 2020 5:21 PM
 > To: MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
 > Subject: iPad Models
 >
 >  I've an iPad mini 4. Been spending more time with it lately
and am curious to know the advantages of the Air as well as the  Pro
models.
 >
 >  One aspect of the Pro is ability to connect external drives.
Any limitations on what the Pro can access? Like a 1tb plus iTunes
library?
 > Thanks.
 >
 >   From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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 > Many believe that we have been visited
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 >
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Re: iPad Models

   Funny you mention gestures. I was just playing with them. Did not 
get too far but will get back to it later. The iPad user guide is not 
totally accurate which leads me to think there are some differences 
between models.

   Yep I am fine with Touch ID. And the home button

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On 1/3/2020 3:07 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
Mini 5 has pretty much the same chip as the current iPad pro 11 & 12 
inch devices.

Same with the iPad air 10 inch.

All of them now allow for the same gestures such as flick up from the 
bottm of the screen to the appswitcher,

Down one vibration  for control panel /  two vibrations for notification 
manager.

The only thing the mini lacks is face id which I’ve got no issue with.

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Hi e.t. The ipad mini uses the a12 chip.  I think the iphone 8 uses the 
a10 chip.  HTH.

Matthew

On Jan 3, 2020 1:17 AM, "'E.T.' via MacVisionaries" 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Simon,
     I like the mini 4 only because it is the only iPad I have used,
except for the mini 3. Just took a quick look at specs and prices. The
mini 5 might do well. I'm getring used to the BT keyboard which can
connect to up to 3 devices. And there is iCloud Drive so all devices
can
share.

     Given the difference in cost between Pro and mini, I can live with
the mini. I don't know what chip the mini 4 has but my iPhone 8 has it
beat. :) Ok found the chip. Yes the mini 5 will almost match the iPhone
8. Close enough.

     Thanks Simon. Appreciate the overview.

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On 1/2/2020 9:35 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
 > I found the pro I had great,
 >
 > That's an 11" with smart keyboard etc,
 >
 > I never connected to a 1TB drive But I did connect to my network
drive to view a movie and that worked fine.
 >
 > The air I viewed as being just a slightly larger screen size
which now takes a smart keyboard folio and first gen pencil,
 > But doesn't have the quad speakers
 > Face ID
 >
 > The other thing to think about though is if your liking the iPad
mini 4
 > Then the iPad mini 5 has features of the pro / air but just in
the smaller profile.
 >
 >   Th eonly thing I'm not happy about with the mini 5 is I can't
find a good quality keyboard folio
 > I'd love to see apple produce a pro mini version
 > Or at least a mini with the folio keyboard and face id.
 > Good luck.
 >
 >
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 >
 >  I've an iPad mini 4. Been spending more time with it lately
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models.
 >
 >  One aspect of the Pro is ability to connect external drives.
Any limitations on what the Pro can access? Like a 1tb plus iTunes
library?
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RE: iPad Models

Mini 5 has pretty much the same chip as the current iPad pro 11 & 12 inch 
devices.

Same with the iPad air 10 inch.

All of them now allow for the same gestures such as flick up from the bottm of 
the screen to the appswitcher,
Down one vibration  for control panel /  two vibrations for notification 
manager.

The only thing the mini lacks is face id which I’ve got no issue with.

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Behalf Of matthew dyer
Sent: Saturday, 4 January 2020 11:23 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPad Models


Hi e.t. The ipad mini uses the a12 chip.  I think the iphone 8 uses the a10 
chip.  HTH.

Matthew
On Jan 3, 2020 1:17 AM, "'E.T.' via MacVisionaries" 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
Simon,
I like the mini 4 only because it is the only iPad I have used,
except for the mini 3. Just took a quick look at specs and prices. The
mini 5 might do well. I'm getring used to the BT keyboard which can
connect to up to 3 devices. And there is iCloud Drive so all devices can
share.

Given the difference in cost between Pro and mini, I can live with
the mini. I don't know what chip the mini 4 has but my iPhone 8 has it
beat. :) Ok found the chip. Yes the mini 5 will almost match the iPhone
8. Close enough.

Thanks Simon. Appreciate the overview.

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On 1/2/2020 9:35 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
> I found the pro I had great,
>
> That's an 11" with smart keyboard etc,
>
> I never connected to a 1TB drive But I did connect to my network drive to 
> view a movie and that worked fine.
>
> The air I viewed as being just a slightly larger screen size which now takes 
> a smart keyboard folio and first gen pencil,
> But doesn't have the quad speakers
> Face ID
>
> The other thing to think about though is if your liking the iPad mini 4
> Then the iPad mini 5 has features of the pro / air but just in the smaller 
> profile.
>
>   Th eonly thing I'm not happy about with the mini 5 is I can't find a good 
> quality keyboard folio
> I'd love to see apple produce a pro mini version
> Or at least a mini with the folio keyboard and face id.
> Good luck.
>
>
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> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
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>
>  I've an iPad mini 4. Been spending more time with it lately and am 
> curious to know the advantages of the Air as well as the  Pro models.
>
>  One aspect of the Pro is ability to connect external drives. Any 
> limitations on what the Pro can access? Like a 1tb plus iTunes library?
> Thanks.
>
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Re: iPad Models


   Yes the mini 5 has the A12. The iPhone 8 and 8+ have the A11 chip.

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Hi e.t. The ipad mini uses the a12 chip.  I think the iphone 8 uses the 
a10 chip.  HTH.


Matthew

On Jan 3, 2020 1:17 AM, "'E.T.' via MacVisionaries" 
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Simon,
     I like the mini 4 only because it is the only iPad I have used,
except for the mini 3. Just took a quick look at specs and prices. The
mini 5 might do well. I'm getring used to the BT keyboard which can
connect to up to 3 devices. And there is iCloud Drive so all devices
can
share.

     Given the difference in cost between Pro and mini, I can live with
the mini. I don't know what chip the mini 4 has but my iPhone 8 has it
beat. :) Ok found the chip. Yes the mini 5 will almost match the iPhone
8. Close enough.

     Thanks Simon. Appreciate the overview.

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On 1/2/2020 9:35 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
> I found the pro I had great,
> 
> That's an 11" with smart keyboard etc,
> 
> I never connected to a 1TB drive But I did connect to my network drive to view a movie and that worked fine.
> 
> The air I viewed as being just a slightly larger screen size which now takes a smart keyboard folio and first gen pencil,

> But doesn't have the quad speakers
> Face ID
> 
> The other thing to think about though is if your liking the iPad mini 4

> Then the iPad mini 5 has features of the pro / air but just in the 
smaller profile.
> 
>   Th eonly thing I'm not happy about with the mini 5 is I can't find a good quality keyboard folio

> I'd love to see apple produce a pro mini version
> Or at least a mini with the folio keyboard and face id.
> Good luck.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-

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> 
>  I've an iPad mini 4. Been spending more time with it lately and am curious to know the advantages of the Air as well as the  Pro models.
> 
>  One aspect of the Pro is ability to connect external drives. Any limitations on what the Pro can access? Like a 1tb plus iTunes library?

> Thanks.
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2020-01-03 Thread matthew dyer

Hi e.t. The ipad mini uses the a12 chip.  I think the iphone 8 uses the a10 
chip.  HTH.

Matthew

On Jan 3, 2020 1:17 AM, "'E.T.' via MacVisionaries" 
 wrote:
Simon,
I like the mini 4 only because it is the only iPad I have used,
except for the mini 3. Just took a quick look at specs and prices. The
mini 5 might do well. I'm getring used to the BT keyboard which can
connect to up to 3 devices. And there is iCloud Drive so all devices can
share.

Given the difference in cost between Pro and mini, I can live with
the mini. I don't know what chip the mini 4 has but my iPhone 8 has it
beat. :) Ok found the chip. Yes the mini 5 will almost match the iPhone
8. Close enough.

Thanks Simon. Appreciate the overview.

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On 1/2/2020 9:35 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
> I found the pro I had great,
>
> That's an 11" with smart keyboard etc,
>
> I never connected to a 1TB drive But I did connect to my network drive to 
> view a movie and that worked fine.
>
> The air I viewed as being just a slightly larger screen size which now takes 
> a smart keyboard folio and first gen pencil,
> But doesn't have the quad speakers
> Face ID
>
> The other thing to think about though is if your liking the iPad mini 4
> Then the iPad mini 5 has features of the pro / air but just in the smaller 
> profile.
>
>   Th eonly thing I'm not happy about with the mini 5 is I can't find a good 
> quality keyboard folio
> I'd love to see apple produce a pro mini version
> Or at least a mini with the folio keyboard and face id.
> Good luck.
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Friday, 3 January 2020 5:21 PM
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> Subject: iPad Models
>
>  I've an iPad mini 4. Been spending more time with it lately and am 
> curious to know the advantages of the Air as well as the  Pro models.
>
>  One aspect of the Pro is ability to connect external drives. Any 
> limitations on what the Pro can access? Like a 1tb plus iTunes library?
> Thanks.
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RE: iPad Models

 Yeah that's the problem 

Good luck,
Hope you find what your looking for.

I'm sure you will be looking at them first before making the final choice,



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Money is always a force that drives decision making. My mini 4 has a Zqgg 
folio. The iPad slips into a magnetic hinge, makes it easy to remove it so it 
is easy to work with. The keyboard is small of course but I imagine one could 
use it in a pinch.

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On 1/3/2020 2:17 AM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
> Depending on how much you are looking to pay is also the question.
> 
> Your prices are a lot better than ours of course,
> 
> I'm trying to sell my iPad Pro to save some space and money  but I 
> also have an iPad mini 5 and I do like it although I have to use a 
> Magic wireless keyboard or my Logitech keyboard with it,
> 
> I'd prefer a folio keyboard for my mini 5 so it was protected as well as  
> easy to cary around with no excess size.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Friday, 3 January 2020 7:18 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPad Models
> 
> Simon,
>  I like the mini 4 only because it is the only iPad I have used, except 
> for the mini 3. Just took a quick look at specs and prices. The mini 5 might 
> do well. I'm getring used to the BT keyboard which can connect to up to 3 
> devices. And there is iCloud Drive so all devices can share.
> 
>  Given the difference in cost between Pro and mini, I can live with the 
> mini. I don't know what chip the mini 4 has but my iPhone 8 has it beat. :) 
> Ok found the chip. Yes the mini 5 will almost match the iPhone 8. Close 
> enough.
> 
>  Thanks Simon. Appreciate the overview.
> 
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> On 1/2/2020 9:35 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
>> I found the pro I had great,
>>
>> That's an 11" with smart keyboard etc,
>>
>> I never connected to a 1TB drive But I did connect to my network drive to 
>> view a movie and that worked fine.
>>
>> The air I viewed as being just a slightly larger screen size which 
>> now takes a smart keyboard folio and first gen pencil, But doesn't 
>> have the quad speakers Face ID
>>
>> The other thing to think about though is if your liking the iPad mini
>> 4 Then the iPad mini 5 has features of the pro / air but just in the smaller 
>> profile.
>>
>>Th eonly thing I'm not happy about with the mini 5 is I can't find 
>> a good quality keyboard folio I'd love to see apple produce a pro 
>> mini version Or at least a mini with the folio keyboard and face id.
>> Good luck.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>> Sent: Friday, 3 January 2020 5:21 PM
>> To: MacVisionaries 
>> Subject: iPad Models
>>
>>   I've an iPad mini 4. Been spending more time with it lately and am 
>> curious to know the advantages of the Air as well as the  Pro models.
>>
>>   One aspect of the Pro is ability to connect external drives. Any 
>> limitations on what the Pro can access? Like a 1tb plus iTunes library?
>> Thanks.
>>
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   Money is always a force that drives decision making. My mini 4 has a 
Zqgg folio. The iPad slips into a magnetic hinge, makes it easy to 
remove it so it is easy to work with. The keyboard is small of course 
but I imagine one could use it in a pinch.


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Depending on how much you are looking to pay is also the question.

Your prices are a lot better than ours of course,

I'm trying to sell my iPad Pro to save some space and money  but I also have an 
iPad mini 5 and I do like it although I have to use a Magic wireless keyboard 
or my Logitech keyboard with it,

I'd prefer a folio keyboard for my mini 5 so it was protected as well as  easy 
to cary around with no excess size.

Good luck.

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Simon,
 I like the mini 4 only because it is the only iPad I have used, except for 
the mini 3. Just took a quick look at specs and prices. The mini 5 might do 
well. I'm getring used to the BT keyboard which can connect to up to 3 devices. 
And there is iCloud Drive so all devices can share.

 Given the difference in cost between Pro and mini, I can live with the 
mini. I don't know what chip the mini 4 has but my iPhone 8 has it beat. :) Ok 
found the chip. Yes the mini 5 will almost match the iPhone 8. Close enough.

 Thanks Simon. Appreciate the overview.

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On 1/2/2020 9:35 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:

I found the pro I had great,

That's an 11" with smart keyboard etc,

I never connected to a 1TB drive But I did connect to my network drive to view 
a movie and that worked fine.

The air I viewed as being just a slightly larger screen size which now
takes a smart keyboard folio and first gen pencil, But doesn't have
the quad speakers Face ID

The other thing to think about though is if your liking the iPad mini
4 Then the iPad mini 5 has features of the pro / air but just in the smaller 
profile.

   Th eonly thing I'm not happy about with the mini 5 is I can't find a
good quality keyboard folio I'd love to see apple produce a pro mini
version Or at least a mini with the folio keyboard and face id.
Good luck.


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Sent: Friday, 3 January 2020 5:21 PM
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Subject: iPad Models

  I've an iPad mini 4. Been spending more time with it lately and am 
curious to know the advantages of the Air as well as the  Pro models.

  One aspect of the Pro is ability to connect external drives. Any 
limitations on what the Pro can access? Like a 1tb plus iTunes library?
Thanks.

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