Re: logging into BARD on Safari on a Mac

2023-12-29 Thread Lorie McCloud
yeah. I bookmarked it and deleted the. old one I was using.

> On Dec 28, 2023, at 11:46 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
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> Great.  Save that link, and you should be good going forward,
> 
> - Brad -
> 
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> On Dec 28, 2023, at 23:13, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> yep. that worked. thanks.
> 
>> On Dec 28, 2023, at 7:05 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> Just loged in on my Mac with no problem.
>> 
>> Lori, since you are in Texas, as am I, try using the below link, and see if 
>> it works for you.
>> 
>> https://nlsbard.loc.gov/nlsbardprod/login/TX1A
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 28, 2023, at 14:59, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> when I. log into BARD on my Mac I get a 500 internal server error. this was 
>> happening yesterday too. I called my state library and they seemed to think 
>> it was on my end. I cleared my cashe but I couldn’t find it in the list of 
>> sites that have cookies. I suppose I could clear all but that might make a 
>> mess. in other places. I may have to anyway because I tried logging in using 
>> Firefox and it worked so it must be a Safari issue. suggestions?
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
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Re: logging into BARD on Safari on a Mac

2023-12-28 Thread Brad Snyder
Great.  Save that link, and you should be good going forward,

- Brad -



On Dec 28, 2023, at 23:13, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

yep. that worked. thanks.

> On Dec 28, 2023, at 7:05 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Just loged in on my Mac with no problem.
> 
> Lori, since you are in Texas, as am I, try using the below link, and see if 
> it works for you.
> 
> https://nlsbard.loc.gov/nlsbardprod/login/TX1A
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 28, 2023, at 14:59, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> when I. log into BARD on my Mac I get a 500 internal server error. this was 
> happening yesterday too. I called my state library and they seemed to think 
> it was on my end. I cleared my cashe but I couldn’t find it in the list of 
> sites that have cookies. I suppose I could clear all but that might make a 
> mess. in other places. I may have to anyway because I tried logging in using 
> Firefox and it worked so it must be a Safari issue. suggestions?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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Re: logging into BARD on Safari on a Mac

2023-12-28 Thread Lorie McCloud
yep. that worked. thanks.

> On Dec 28, 2023, at 7:05 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Just loged in on my Mac with no problem.
> 
> Lori, since you are in Texas, as am I, try using the below link, and see if 
> it works for you.
> 
> https://nlsbard.loc.gov/nlsbardprod/login/TX1A
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
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> On Dec 28, 2023, at 14:59, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> when I. log into BARD on my Mac I get a 500 internal server error. this was 
> happening yesterday too. I called my state library and they seemed to think 
> it was on my end. I cleared my cashe but I couldn’t find it in the list of 
> sites that have cookies. I suppose I could clear all but that might make a 
> mess. in other places. I may have to anyway because I tried logging in using 
> Firefox and it worked so it must be a Safari issue. suggestions?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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Re: logging into BARD on Safari on a Mac

2023-12-28 Thread Brad Snyder
Just loged in on my Mac with no problem.

Lori, since you are in Texas, as am I, try using the below link, and see if it 
works for you.

https://nlsbard.loc.gov/nlsbardprod/login/TX1A

- Brad -



On Dec 28, 2023, at 14:59, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

when I. log into BARD on my Mac I get a 500 internal server error. this was 
happening yesterday too. I called my state library and they seemed to think it 
was on my end. I cleared my cashe but I couldn’t find it in the list of sites 
that have cookies. I suppose I could clear all but that might make a mess. in 
other places. I may have to anyway because I tried logging in using Firefox and 
it worked so it must be a Safari issue. suggestions?

thanks.
Lorie

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Re: logging into BARD on Safari on a Mac

2023-12-28 Thread mr.robertcole via MacVisionaries
Hi,
Try using Safari’s private window by pressing command shift n.
Then open Bard.

Rob


> On Dec 28, 2023, at 3:59 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> when I. log into BARD on my Mac I get a 500 internal server error. this was 
> happening yesterday too. I called my state library and they seemed to think 
> it was on my end. I cleared my cashe but I couldn’t find it in the list of 
> sites that have cookies. I suppose I could clear all but that might make a 
> mess. in other places. I may have to anyway because I tried logging in using 
> Firefox and it worked so it must be a Safari issue. suggestions?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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Re: logging into BARD on Safari on a Mac

2023-12-28 Thread Lorie McCloud
must be some setting I have then. so far I haven’t been able to find it.

> On Dec 28, 2023, at 3:05 PM, 'Margaret Ricciardi' via MacVisionaries 
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> I logged in with safari last night. Worked fine.
> Peggy and Dixie Marie
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Dec 28, 2023, at 3:59 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> when I. log into BARD on my Mac I get a 500 internal server error. this was 
>> happening yesterday too. I called my state library and they seemed to think 
>> it was on my end. I cleared my cashe but I couldn’t find it in the list of 
>> sites that have cookies. I suppose I could clear all but that might make a 
>> mess. in other places. I may have to anyway because I tried logging in using 
>> Firefox and it worked so it must be a Safari issue. suggestions?
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
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Re: logging into BARD on Safari on a Mac

2023-12-28 Thread 'Margaret Ricciardi' via MacVisionaries
I logged in with safari last night. Worked fine.
Peggy and Dixie Marie
Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 28, 2023, at 3:59 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> when I. log into BARD on my Mac I get a 500 internal server error. this was 
> happening yesterday too. I called my state library and they seemed to think 
> it was on my end. I cleared my cashe but I couldn’t find it in the list of 
> sites that have cookies. I suppose I could clear all but that might make a 
> mess. in other places. I may have to anyway because I tried logging in using 
> Firefox and it worked so it must be a Safari issue. suggestions?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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logging into BARD on Safari on a Mac

2023-12-28 Thread Lorie McCloud
when I. log into BARD on my Mac I get a 500 internal server error. this was 
happening yesterday too. I called my state library and they seemed to think it 
was on my end. I cleared my cashe but I couldn’t find it in the list of sites 
that have cookies. I suppose I could clear all but that might make a mess. in 
other places. I may have to anyway because I tried logging in using Firefox and 
it worked so it must be a Safari issue. suggestions?

thanks.
Lorie

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Re: Safari on my Mac

2022-12-04 Thread Joseph Hudson
I was able to navigate it just as you were. While I was saying 90% loaded. I 
don't believe I have JavaScript enabled either.

> On Dec 4, 2022, at 1:50 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Interesting that I was able to navigate the page even as it said 90% loaded 
> on Big Sur. One thing you can try is to disable JavaScript, often in webpages 
> that have constant animation moving elements around, the extra time required 
> for the browser to tell VOiceOver that something has moved causes everything 
> to get stuck. You can temporarily disable JavaScript  and see if that helps 
> either in the “Developer” menu if you have it enabled or in the Security tab 
> of Safari Preferences.
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 3, 2022, at 4:07 PM, Joseph Hudson > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Lori, I get the same thing running Ventura. So you might want to ride to 
>> Apple accessibility. It stays at 90% loaded, and I'm able to move around the 
>> website. So upgrading to Ventura is not going to fix this one.
>> 
>>> On Dec 3, 2022, at 1:23 AM, Lorie McCloud >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> “www.midnightspecial.org ”
>>> is one such. it redirects to probably wfmt’s website but it just sits there 
>>> on 90% for maybe 10 min. Sometimes. I’ve tried reloading but it goes right 
>>> back to 90% and sits there.
>>> 
 On Dec 2, 2022, at 3:33 PM, Joseph Hudson >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi Lori, could you provide websites that you are running into this issue 
 with.
 
> On Dec 2, 2022, at 3:08 PM, Lorie McCloud  > wrote:
> 
> I’m running Catalina on my Mac Mini. certain websites just sit there for 
> a long time 90% loaded. is there anything I can do to get Safari to. 
> finish loading the page?
> 
> thanks.
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Re: Safari on my Mac

2022-12-04 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Interesting that I was able to navigate the page even as it said 90% loaded on 
Big Sur. One thing you can try is to disable JavaScript, often in webpages that 
have constant animation moving elements around, the extra time required for the 
browser to tell VOiceOver that something has moved causes everything to get 
stuck. You can temporarily disable JavaScript  and see if that helps either in 
the “Developer” menu if you have it enabled or in the Security tab of Safari 
Preferences.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



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> Hi Lori, I get the same thing running Ventura. So you might want to ride to 
> Apple accessibility. It stays at 90% loaded, and I'm able to move around the 
> website. So upgrading to Ventura is not going to fix this one.
> 
>> On Dec 3, 2022, at 1:23 AM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> “www.midnightspecial.org ”
>> is one such. it redirects to probably wfmt’s website but it just sits there 
>> on 90% for maybe 10 min. Sometimes. I’ve tried reloading but it goes right 
>> back to 90% and sits there.
>> 
>>> On Dec 2, 2022, at 3:33 PM, Joseph Hudson >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Lori, could you provide websites that you are running into this issue 
>>> with.
>>> 
 On Dec 2, 2022, at 3:08 PM, Lorie McCloud >>> > wrote:
 
 I’m running Catalina on my Mac Mini. certain websites just sit there for a 
 long time 90% loaded. is there anything I can do to get Safari to. finish 
 loading the page?
 
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Re: Safari on my Mac

2022-12-03 Thread Joseph Hudson
Hi Lori, I get the same thing running Ventura. So you might want to ride to 
Apple accessibility. It stays at 90% loaded, and I'm able to move around the 
website. So upgrading to Ventura is not going to fix this one.

> On Dec 3, 2022, at 1:23 AM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> “www.midnightspecial.org ”
> is one such. it redirects to probably wfmt’s website but it just sits there 
> on 90% for maybe 10 min. Sometimes. I’ve tried reloading but it goes right 
> back to 90% and sits there.
> 
>> On Dec 2, 2022, at 3:33 PM, Joseph Hudson > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Lori, could you provide websites that you are running into this issue 
>> with.
>> 
>>> On Dec 2, 2022, at 3:08 PM, Lorie McCloud >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m running Catalina on my Mac Mini. certain websites just sit there for a 
>>> long time 90% loaded. is there anything I can do to get Safari to. finish 
>>> loading the page?
>>> 
>>> thanks.
>>> Lorie
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Re: Safari on my Mac

2022-12-03 Thread Agent086b
Hi,
below is part of a message I saved from 2018. This works sometimes.
Max.

Heres an apple tech tip on how to clear sluggish VO movement by deleting the 
Caches folder.
This helps minimize the "busy" issue for me. :)
Basic steps below;
To empty out the Caches folder on your computer, you’ll need to open up Finder 
first. 

With Voiceover on, you can press V O D, and it should default to Finder. Then 
press V O Space. 

Once Finder is the focused application, press V O M to get to the menu bar, 
then V O Right until you reach the Go menu. In the Go menu, select Go To 
Folder. 

The location is ~/Library

Once you’ve typed that in, press Return. 

In the Library folder, you can select the Caches folder and then press Command 
Delete to move it to trash. 

I recommend restarting the computer after you do this.
HTH
Chuck



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Re: Safari on my Mac

2022-12-03 Thread Karen Lewellen

Can add an example too, but unsure how you would test it.
the Disney plus website would not let a friend stream there, just sitting.
Ended up putting chrome, which i intend removing, on my computer so I 
could  stream Sir. Elton's last concert.




On Sat, 3 Dec 2022, Lorie McCloud wrote:


???www.midnightspecial.org ???
is one such. it redirects to probably wfmt???s website but it just sits there 
on 90% for maybe 10 min. Sometimes. I???ve tried reloading but it goes right 
back to 90% and sits there.


On Dec 2, 2022, at 3:33 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:

Hi Lori, could you provide websites that you are running into this issue with.


On Dec 2, 2022, at 3:08 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

I???m running Catalina on my Mac Mini. certain websites just sit there for a 
long time 90% loaded. is there anything I can do to get Safari to. finish 
loading the page?

thanks.
Lorie

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Re: Safari on my Mac

2022-12-02 Thread Lorie McCloud
“www.midnightspecial.org ”
is one such. it redirects to probably wfmt’s website but it just sits there on 
90% for maybe 10 min. Sometimes. I’ve tried reloading but it goes right back to 
90% and sits there.

> On Dec 2, 2022, at 3:33 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
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> Hi Lori, could you provide websites that you are running into this issue with.
> 
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>> long time 90% loaded. is there anything I can do to get Safari to. finish 
>> loading the page?
>> 
>> thanks.
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Re: Safari on my Mac

2022-12-02 Thread Joseph Hudson
Hi Lori, could you provide websites that you are running into this issue with.

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Re: Safari on my Mac

2022-12-02 Thread Herbie Allen
Keep in mind that is an older OS, but I would try Command R.

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Safari on my Mac

2022-12-02 Thread Lorie McCloud
I’m running Catalina on my Mac Mini. certain websites just sit there for a long 
time 90% loaded. is there anything I can do to get Safari to. finish loading 
the page?

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Re: Safari on a Mac

2021-10-13 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi,

If I’m remembering correctly, in Catalina, after entering your Admin password 
to unlock the Passwords pane, interact with the table, or search for the site 
followed by interacting with the table, then there should be multiple columns 
of data.  The first column is the site, the second is the username, and the 
third is the password.  I also seem to recall a fourth column that pertained to 
an alert if a security flaw was detected.  This has change in Big Sur and 
beyond, but the basic info provided is similar.

Later…


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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
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> On Oct 13, 2021, at 1:05 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> I'm using Catalina still.
> 
>> On Oct 12, 2021, at 11:52 PM, Herbie Allen > > wrote:
>> 
>> Tab to the edit button, hit VO space and then you can read it normally. This 
>> is assuming you’re using Big Sur though. If using Monterey, then they’ve 
>> made some change that I don’t know about.
>> 
>>> On Oct 12, 2021, at 22:26, Lorie McCloud >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I did unlock it and I can read the username but not the password for the 
>>> account I want or any of them really.
>>> 
 On Oct 12, 2021, at 9:52 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 If you mean Safari saved passwords, then go to the Safari menu that is 
 beside the Apple menu, go down to Preferences, interact with the Toolbar 
 and VO-space on the Passwords tab.  You should be asked for either an 
 Administrator password, or your finger-print if your Mac supports it, to 
 unlock this pane.
 
 Later…
 
 
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 Jamf Certified Tech
 Apple Professional Learning Specialist
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 (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
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> On Oct 12, 2021, at 8:43 PM, Lorie McCloud  > wrote:
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> Where do I find my passwords in Safari?
> 
> thanks.
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Re: Safari on a Mac

2021-10-13 Thread Lorie McCloud
I'm using Catalina still.

> On Oct 12, 2021, at 11:52 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
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> Tab to the edit button, hit VO space and then you can read it normally. This 
> is assuming you’re using Big Sur though. If using Monterey, then they’ve made 
> some change that I don’t know about.
> 
>> On Oct 12, 2021, at 22:26, Lorie McCloud > > wrote:
>> 
>> I did unlock it and I can read the username but not the password for the 
>> account I want or any of them really.
>> 
>>> On Oct 12, 2021, at 9:52 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> If you mean Safari saved passwords, then go to the Safari menu that is 
>>> beside the Apple menu, go down to Preferences, interact with the Toolbar 
>>> and VO-space on the Passwords tab.  You should be asked for either an 
>>> Administrator password, or your finger-print if your Mac supports it, to 
>>> unlock this pane.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
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>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
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 On Oct 12, 2021, at 8:43 PM, Lorie McCloud >>> > wrote:
 
 Where do I find my passwords in Safari?
 
 thanks.
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Re: Safari on a Mac

2021-10-13 Thread Jonathan Cohn
I noticed this once, and believe I was able to read them by moving out of the 
table of passwords and then back into it. Also, the menu brought up with 
control-shift M has a "copy password" item in it and this has worked even when 
I saw the blanked out passwords.
 
Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



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> I did unlock it and I can read the username but not the password for the 
> account I want or any of them really.
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>> VO-space on the Passwords tab.  You should be asked for either an 
>> Administrator password, or your finger-print if your Mac supports it, to 
>> unlock this pane.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
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Re: Safari on a Mac

2021-10-12 Thread Herbie Allen
Tab to the edit button, hit VO space and then you can read it normally. This is 
assuming you’re using Big Sur though. If using Monterey, then they’ve made some 
change that I don’t know about.

> On Oct 12, 2021, at 22:26, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> I did unlock it and I can read the username but not the password for the 
> account I want or any of them really.
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>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
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>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
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>> beside the Apple menu, go down to Preferences, interact with the Toolbar and 
>> VO-space on the Passwords tab.  You should be asked for either an 
>> Administrator password, or your finger-print if your Mac supports it, to 
>> unlock this pane.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
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Re: Safari on a Mac

2021-10-12 Thread Lorie McCloud
can you read them on your Mac? I guess I could try getting to them on my phone.

> On Oct 12, 2021, at 11:33 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
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> I read them on my iPhone by going to
> Settings > Passwords.
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> On Oct 12, 2021, at 22:25, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> how do you read them? I unlocked my passwords but all I can read for the 
> account I want is a bunch of bullets.
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>> Go to Safari preferences, and select the Passwords tab.
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>> - Brad -
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>> Where do I find my passwords in Safari?
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Re: Safari on a Mac

2021-10-12 Thread Brad Snyder
I read them on my iPhone by going to
Settings > Passwords.

- Brad -

On Oct 12, 2021, at 22:25, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

how do you read them? I unlocked my passwords but all I can read for the 
account I want is a bunch of bullets.

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> Go to Safari preferences, and select the Passwords tab.
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> Where do I find my passwords in Safari?
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Re: Safari on a Mac

2021-10-12 Thread Lorie McCloud
I did unlock it and I can read the username but not the password for the 
account I want or any of them really.

> On Oct 12, 2021, at 9:52 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi,
> 
> If you mean Safari saved passwords, then go to the Safari menu that is beside 
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> VO-space on the Passwords tab.  You should be asked for either an 
> Administrator password, or your finger-print if your Mac supports it, to 
> unlock this pane.
> 
> Later…
> 
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>> On Oct 12, 2021, at 8:43 PM, Lorie McCloud > > wrote:
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>> Where do I find my passwords in Safari?
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Re: Safari on a Mac

2021-10-12 Thread Lorie McCloud
how do you read them? I unlocked my passwords but all I can read for the 
account I want is a bunch of bullets.

> On Oct 12, 2021, at 9:53 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
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> Go to Safari preferences, and select the Passwords tab.
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Re: Safari on a Mac

2021-10-12 Thread Brad Snyder
Go to Safari preferences, and select the Passwords tab.

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On Oct 12, 2021, at 21:43, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

Where do I find my passwords in Safari?

thanks.
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Re: Safari on a Mac

2021-10-12 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi,

If you mean Safari saved passwords, then go to the Safari menu that is beside 
the Apple menu, go down to Preferences, interact with the Toolbar and VO-space 
on the Passwords tab.  You should be asked for either an Administrator 
password, or your finger-print if your Mac supports it, to unlock this pane.

Later…


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Safari on a Mac

2021-10-12 Thread Lorie McCloud
Where do I find my passwords in Safari?

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Re: Safari on a Mac

2021-04-06 Thread Brad Snyder
You can use VO + CMD + F5, which will route the mouse to the VO cursor, then do 
VO + Shift + Spacebar, to simulate a mouse click.

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On Apr 6, 2021, at 22:19, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

I've been having this problem fairly often where I'll be on a website, I'll 
have a button in focus, press vo-space on it and nothing happens. vo will say 
"press" and whatever the name of the button is but it doesn't doing anything. 
is there some setting I could change in Safari or anything else I could do 
about this? I'm running Cataline.

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Re: Safari on a Mac

2021-04-06 Thread Herbie Allen
Yes, you can first try enter. If that does not work, then you can tray 
something a little more involved. Do Command VO F5 followed by VO Shift space.

> On Apr 6, 2021, at 22:19, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> I've been having this problem fairly often where I'll be on a website, I'll 
> have a button in focus, press vo-space on it and nothing happens. vo will say 
> "press" and whatever the name of the button is but it doesn't doing anything. 
> is there some setting I could change in Safari or anything else I could do 
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Safari on a Mac

2021-04-06 Thread Lorie McCloud
I've been having this problem fairly often where I'll be on a website, I'll 
have a button in focus, press vo-space on it and nothing happens. vo will say 
"press" and whatever the name of the button is but it doesn't doing anything. 
is there some setting I could change in Safari or anything else I could do 
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Re: Safari on a Mac

2021-02-15 Thread Herbie Allen
Go to Safari preferences, privacy, and you will see a button for website data. 
Clearing history is not the same as clearing cookies. History is your local 
data, cookies are bits of data the site stores on your machine.

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Safari on a Mac

2021-02-15 Thread Lorie McCloud
how do I clear my cache in Safari on my Mac? is it the same as clearing history?

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VO Reading from inactive tabs in Safari on the Mac

2021-01-24 Thread 'Catherine Turner' via MacVisionaries
Hi,

I have a pretty old MacBook Pro and I’ve only just updated to sierra. I am
now having a problem in Safari that I’ve never experienced before. I’m
trying to read a webpage but voiceover keeps reading out what sounds like
snippets of information from some other tabs which are present bit which
are not the active tab I’m trying to read. It is making the use of Safari
impossible because the speech reading the inactive tab interrupts what I’m
trying to read and I cannot get it to stop or when I do get it to stop and
start reading what I want, in a few seconds it will start reading from an
inactive tab again. Is this a known bug or has anyone else experienced it?


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Re: Enabling shared Safari history on Mac and iOS

2020-12-02 Thread Brad Snyder
To share your Safari browsing history between both your Mac and iOS device, do 
the following:

On your Mac running Catalina:
1.  Go to System Preferences > AppleID.
2.  Navigate to the iCloud Services table, and interact with the table.
3.  Locate Safari and make sure the item is checked.

On your iOS device:
1.  Open Settings, and locate your name at the top of the list, and perform a 
1-finger double tap.
2.  Swipe to iCloud, and perform a 1-finger double tap.
3.  Swipe to Safari, and make sure the item is selected.

That should do it.

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On Dec 2, 2020, at 18:35, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

are you talking about the Mac or the phone or both? I'm not sure where to look 
on the Mac.

> On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:13 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
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> If you are running systems that have my idintity as the first ^icon in 
> preferences or system preferences than there should be a safari item in the 
> use iCloud area. This will use your iCloud account for history and bookmarks. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> I'd like my Safari history on my Mac and my phone to be linked. how do I do 
>> that?
>> 
>> thanks.
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Re: Safari on a Mac

2020-11-29 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Jason,

Since you don't include replies, I couldn't tell what you were responding to. 
What exactly does FN right arrow do?
Thanks,
Donna


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> On 11/29/20 2:53 AM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
>> woops. glad you caught that. is end the bottom right key in that group of 
>> keys?
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> It depends on your keyboard. On a MacBook, it's FN-right-Arrow.
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Re: Safari on a Mac

2020-11-29 Thread 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries



On 11/29/20 2:53 AM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
woops. glad you caught that. is end the bottom right key in that group 
of keys?



It depends on your keyboard. On a MacBook, it's FN-right-Arrow.

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Re: Safari on a Mac

2020-11-29 Thread Brad Snyder
OK, I just tried this on a different website, and my results were as follows:
website:  
https://www.idownloadblog.com/2018/08/17/customize-word-keyboard-shortcuts-mac/ 

1.  With focus on the web contents, I used CMD + L, to move focus to the 
address field.
2.  Pressing Escape, returns focus to the web content area.

I am able to repeat this behavior on the following site, which is the site I 
tried before writing my earlier post.  Not sure why my results changed.
https://www.atguys.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info=62_45_id=276
 


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Using Safari 14.0.1; from what I can tell, pressing the Escape key doesn’t 
really do anything.  If the contents of the address bar are highlighted, 
pressing the Escape key, unhighlights the current contents of the address 
field, but focus remains in the address field no matter how many times the 
Escape key is pressed.  One still needs to stop interacting with the Toolbar in 
order to move focus to the web content area, or anywhere else.

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Apparentlya, pressing escape a couple of times gets you out of at least the 
address bar. I recently heard about this and have tried successfully a few 
times. So, no strong confidence in this but it appears to work : 

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Safari on a Mac

2020-11-29 Thread Brad Snyder
Using Safari 14.0.1; from what I can tell, pressing the Escape key doesn’t 
really do anything.  If the contents of the address bar are highlighted, 
pressing the Escape key, unhighlights the current contents of the address 
field, but focus remains in the address field no matter how many times the 
Escape key is pressed.  One still needs to stop interacting with the Toolbar in 
order to move focus to the web content area, or anywhere else.

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Apparentlya, pressing escape a couple of times gets you out of at least the 
address bar. I recently heard about this and have tried successfully a few 
times. So, no strong confidence in this but it appears to work : 

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Safari on a Mac

2020-11-29 Thread Brad Snyder
Depends on what type of keyboard you are using.
On an extended keyboard, the END key is the middle key, in the bottom row of 
the six keys located above the arrow keys.

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On Nov 29, 2020, at 01:53, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

woops. glad you caught that. is end the bottom right key in that group of keys?

> On Nov 28, 2020, at 9:54 PM, Brad Snyder  > wrote:
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> BTW - the command to move focus to the web content area is VO + E N D, not VO 
> + the letter N.
> 
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> On Nov 28, 2020, at 21:31, Lorie McCloud  > wrote:
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> I know about stopping interacting with the tool bar or side bar but I didn't 
> know about vo-n. that should help. can I hide the sidebar so I don't have to 
> deal with it?
> 
>> On Nov 28, 2020, at 9:20 PM, Brad Snyder > > wrote:
>> 
>> I rarely use the Sidebar for anything, but you can get out of the Toolbar by 
>> using VO + Shift + Up Arrow, to stop interacting.  I’m sure the same would 
>> work for the Sidebar.  Then use VO + END to move focus to the web content 
>> area, then use VO + Shift + Down Arrow to interact. 
>> 
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Re: Safari on a Mac

2020-11-29 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn
Apparentlya, pressing escape a couple of times gets you out of at least the 
address bar. I recently heard about this and have tried successfully a few 
times. So, no strong confidence in this but it appears to work : 

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Safari on a Mac

2020-11-28 Thread Lorie McCloud
I think I'll give that one a shot. it gets in my way a lot. I can usually 
navigate out of it but not always. sometimes I hit the horozontal splitter and 
can't go any farther.

> On Nov 28, 2020, at 9:52 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
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> Of course.  You can hide the Sidebar using CMD + Shift + L.
> 
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> On Nov 28, 2020, at 21:31, Lorie McCloud  > wrote:
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> I know about stopping interacting with the tool bar or side bar but I didn't 
> know about vo-n. that should help. can I hide the sidebar so I don't have to 
> deal with it?
> 
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>> 
>> I rarely use the Sidebar for anything, but you can get out of the Toolbar by 
>> using VO + Shift + Up Arrow, to stop interacting.  I’m sure the same would 
>> work for the Sidebar.  Then use VO + END to move focus to the web content 
>> area, then use VO + Shift + Down Arrow to interact. 
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> lately I've been having trouble getting out of the tool bar or side bar into 
>> the web content. is there a keystroke for this?
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
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Re: Safari on a Mac

2020-11-28 Thread Lorie McCloud
woops. glad you caught that. is end the bottom right key in that group of keys?

> On Nov 28, 2020, at 9:54 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
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> BTW - the command to move focus to the web content area is VO + E N D, not VO 
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> On Nov 28, 2020, at 21:31, Lorie McCloud  > wrote:
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> I know about stopping interacting with the tool bar or side bar but I didn't 
> know about vo-n. that should help. can I hide the sidebar so I don't have to 
> deal with it?
> 
>> On Nov 28, 2020, at 9:20 PM, Brad Snyder > > wrote:
>> 
>> I rarely use the Sidebar for anything, but you can get out of the Toolbar by 
>> using VO + Shift + Up Arrow, to stop interacting.  I’m sure the same would 
>> work for the Sidebar.  Then use VO + END to move focus to the web content 
>> area, then use VO + Shift + Down Arrow to interact. 
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 28, 2020, at 20:49, Lorie McCloud > > wrote:
>> 
>> lately I've been having trouble getting out of the tool bar or side bar into 
>> the web content. is there a keystroke for this?
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
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Re: Safari on a Mac

2020-11-28 Thread Brad Snyder
BTW - the command to move focus to the web content area is VO + E N D, not VO + 
the letter N.


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On Nov 28, 2020, at 21:31, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

I know about stopping interacting with the tool bar or side bar but I didn't 
know about vo-n. that should help. can I hide the sidebar so I don't have to 
deal with it?

> On Nov 28, 2020, at 9:20 PM, Brad Snyder  > wrote:
> 
> I rarely use the Sidebar for anything, but you can get out of the Toolbar by 
> using VO + Shift + Up Arrow, to stop interacting.  I’m sure the same would 
> work for the Sidebar.  Then use VO + END to move focus to the web content 
> area, then use VO + Shift + Down Arrow to interact. 
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Nov 28, 2020, at 20:49, Lorie McCloud  > wrote:
> 
> lately I've been having trouble getting out of the tool bar or side bar into 
> the web content. is there a keystroke for this?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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Re: Safari on a Mac

2020-11-28 Thread Brad Snyder
Of course.  You can hide the Sidebar using CMD + Shift + L.

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On Nov 28, 2020, at 21:31, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

I know about stopping interacting with the tool bar or side bar but I didn't 
know about vo-n. that should help. can I hide the sidebar so I don't have to 
deal with it?

> On Nov 28, 2020, at 9:20 PM, Brad Snyder  > wrote:
> 
> I rarely use the Sidebar for anything, but you can get out of the Toolbar by 
> using VO + Shift + Up Arrow, to stop interacting.  I’m sure the same would 
> work for the Sidebar.  Then use VO + END to move focus to the web content 
> area, then use VO + Shift + Down Arrow to interact. 
> 
> - Brad -
> 
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> On Nov 28, 2020, at 20:49, Lorie McCloud  > wrote:
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> lately I've been having trouble getting out of the tool bar or side bar into 
> the web content. is there a keystroke for this?
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> thanks.
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Re: Safari on a Mac

2020-11-28 Thread Lorie McCloud
I know about stopping interacting with the tool bar or side bar but I didn't 
know about vo-n. that should help. can I hide the sidebar so I don't have to 
deal with it?

> On Nov 28, 2020, at 9:20 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> I rarely use the Sidebar for anything, but you can get out of the Toolbar by 
> using VO + Shift + Up Arrow, to stop interacting.  I’m sure the same would 
> work for the Sidebar.  Then use VO + END to move focus to the web content 
> area, then use VO + Shift + Down Arrow to interact. 
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Nov 28, 2020, at 20:49, Lorie McCloud  > wrote:
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> lately I've been having trouble getting out of the tool bar or side bar into 
> the web content. is there a keystroke for this?
> 
> thanks.
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Re: Safari on a Mac

2020-11-28 Thread Brad Snyder
I rarely use the Sidebar for anything, but you can get out of the Toolbar by 
using VO + Shift + Up Arrow, to stop interacting.  I’m sure the same would work 
for the Sidebar.  Then use VO + END to move focus to the web content area, then 
use VO + Shift + Down Arrow to interact. 

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lately I've been having trouble getting out of the tool bar or side bar into 
the web content. is there a keystroke for this?

thanks.
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Safari on a Mac

2020-11-28 Thread Lorie McCloud
lately I've been having trouble getting out of the tool bar or side bar into 
the web content. is there a keystroke for this?

thanks.
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Re: Safari on a Mac

2020-11-18 Thread Kerryann Ifill
Hi A few weeks ago, someone on the list mentioned issues with selecting and 
coming text from websites.

I’ve been searching mail and I can’t find the solution. As I too am having this 
challenge, could someone please guide as to how to resolve this problem?

Whenever I attempt to select stuff, VoiceOver immediately changes its focus and 
won’t allow me to copy.

Thanks
Kerry

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> If you can, send a link to the website, and I’ll check it out.
> 
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> On Nov 17, 2020, at 22:22, Lorie McCloud  > wrote:
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> I did try those things. I thought it ws just that the site might be kind of 
> inaccessible but then it happened in an email. guess that wouldn't be Safari 
> would it? what I did that time was to arrow down to the link I wanted but 
> when I was pressing vo-command-l vo would say the link but the action 
> wouldn't happen. I'll mess around with it some more.
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2020, at 8:01 PM, Brad Snyder > > wrote:
>> 
>> Without knowing what website you are visiting, or anything else about your 
>> situation; I have found that sometimes, it is helpful to route the mouse 
>> pointer to the VoiceOver cursor using VO + CMD + F5, then perform the 
>> VoiceOver mouse click using VO + Shift + Spacebar, to select/activate a link.
>> 
>> I don’t know if this will help, but you might want to give it a try. 
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 17, 2020, at 19:49, Lorie McCloud > > wrote:
>> 
>> I'm running Mojave on my Mac mini. for the past few days I've been having 
>> focus trouble in Safari. I'll land on a link and press vo-space on it but 
>> nothing happens or it'll say a word not in the link as though focus is 
>> somewhere else. how do I adjust this?
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
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Re: Safari on a Mac

2020-11-18 Thread dan d.



There is a vo system configuration to have the vo cursor track the system and 
mouse cursors.  That way the vo cursor is where you have navigated.  Vo key 
commands continue to work independently of this feature.
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020, Brad Snyder wrote:

> Without knowing what website you are visiting, or anything else about your 
> situation; I have found that sometimes, it is helpful to route the mouse 
> pointer to the VoiceOver cursor using VO + CMD + F5, then perform the 
> VoiceOver mouse click using VO + Shift + Spacebar, to select/activate a link.
>
> I don???t know if this will help, but you might want to give it a try.
>
> - Brad -
>
>
> On Nov 17, 2020, at 19:49, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>
> I'm running Mojave on my Mac mini. for the past few days I've been having 
> focus trouble in Safari. I'll land on a link and press vo-space on it but 
> nothing happens or it'll say a word not in the link as though focus is 
> somewhere else. how do I adjust this?
>
> thanks.
> Lorie
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Re: Safari on a Mac

2020-11-18 Thread Lorie McCloud
tonight I didn't have any trouble with it. I don't know what's going on. maybe 
last night's link was broken or somerthing.

> On Nov 17, 2020, at 11:41 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
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> If you can, send a link to the website, and I’ll check it out.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Nov 17, 2020, at 22:22, Lorie McCloud  > wrote:
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> I did try those things. I thought it ws just that the site might be kind of 
> inaccessible but then it happened in an email. guess that wouldn't be Safari 
> would it? what I did that time was to arrow down to the link I wanted but 
> when I was pressing vo-command-l vo would say the link but the action 
> wouldn't happen. I'll mess around with it some more.
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2020, at 8:01 PM, Brad Snyder > > wrote:
>> 
>> Without knowing what website you are visiting, or anything else about your 
>> situation; I have found that sometimes, it is helpful to route the mouse 
>> pointer to the VoiceOver cursor using VO + CMD + F5, then perform the 
>> VoiceOver mouse click using VO + Shift + Spacebar, to select/activate a link.
>> 
>> I don’t know if this will help, but you might want to give it a try. 
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 17, 2020, at 19:49, Lorie McCloud > > wrote:
>> 
>> I'm running Mojave on my Mac mini. for the past few days I've been having 
>> focus trouble in Safari. I'll land on a link and press vo-space on it but 
>> nothing happens or it'll say a word not in the link as though focus is 
>> somewhere else. how do I adjust this?
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
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Re: Safari on a Mac

2020-11-17 Thread Brad Snyder
If you can, send a link to the website, and I’ll check it out.

- Brad -


On Nov 17, 2020, at 22:22, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

I did try those things. I thought it ws just that the site might be kind of 
inaccessible but then it happened in an email. guess that wouldn't be Safari 
would it? what I did that time was to arrow down to the link I wanted but when 
I was pressing vo-command-l vo would say the link but the action wouldn't 
happen. I'll mess around with it some more.

> On Nov 17, 2020, at 8:01 PM, Brad Snyder  > wrote:
> 
> Without knowing what website you are visiting, or anything else about your 
> situation; I have found that sometimes, it is helpful to route the mouse 
> pointer to the VoiceOver cursor using VO + CMD + F5, then perform the 
> VoiceOver mouse click using VO + Shift + Spacebar, to select/activate a link.
> 
> I don’t know if this will help, but you might want to give it a try. 
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Nov 17, 2020, at 19:49, Lorie McCloud  > wrote:
> 
> I'm running Mojave on my Mac mini. for the past few days I've been having 
> focus trouble in Safari. I'll land on a link and press vo-space on it but 
> nothing happens or it'll say a word not in the link as though focus is 
> somewhere else. how do I adjust this?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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Re: Safari on a Mac

2020-11-17 Thread Lorie McCloud
I did try those things. I thought it ws just that the site might be kind of 
inaccessible but then it happened in an email. guess that wouldn't be Safari 
would it? what I did that time was to arrow down to the link I wanted but when 
I was pressing vo-command-l vo would say the link but the action wouldn't 
happen. I'll mess around with it some more.

> On Nov 17, 2020, at 8:01 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Without knowing what website you are visiting, or anything else about your 
> situation; I have found that sometimes, it is helpful to route the mouse 
> pointer to the VoiceOver cursor using VO + CMD + F5, then perform the 
> VoiceOver mouse click using VO + Shift + Spacebar, to select/activate a link.
> 
> I don’t know if this will help, but you might want to give it a try. 
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Nov 17, 2020, at 19:49, Lorie McCloud  > wrote:
> 
> I'm running Mojave on my Mac mini. for the past few days I've been having 
> focus trouble in Safari. I'll land on a link and press vo-space on it but 
> nothing happens or it'll say a word not in the link as though focus is 
> somewhere else. how do I adjust this?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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Re: Safari on a Mac

2020-11-17 Thread Brad Snyder
Without knowing what website you are visiting, or anything else about your 
situation; I have found that sometimes, it is helpful to route the mouse 
pointer to the VoiceOver cursor using VO + CMD + F5, then perform the VoiceOver 
mouse click using VO + Shift + Spacebar, to select/activate a link.

I don’t know if this will help, but you might want to give it a try. 

- Brad -


On Nov 17, 2020, at 19:49, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

I'm running Mojave on my Mac mini. for the past few days I've been having focus 
trouble in Safari. I'll land on a link and press vo-space on it but nothing 
happens or it'll say a word not in the link as though focus is somewhere else. 
how do I adjust this?

thanks.
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Safari on a Mac

2020-11-17 Thread Lorie McCloud
I'm running Mojave on my Mac mini. for the past few days I've been having focus 
trouble in Safari. I'll land on a link and press vo-space on it but nothing 
happens or it'll say a word not in the link as though focus is somewhere else. 
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Re: strange vo behavior in safari on a Mac

2020-09-08 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
In the upper left corner i think.
At least on my keyboard.
/A

> 7 sep. 2020 kl. 22:09 skrev Lorie McCloud :
> 
> where's the numlock? sorry for my ignorance. I don't do much with the numpad.
> 
>> On Sep 7, 2020, at 4:44 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> You have to turn on  numpad-commander by pressing the vo +  numlock i think.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 5 sep. 2020 kl. 19:48 skrev Lorie McCloud :
>>> 
>>> what part of the numeric keyboard do you use?
>>> 
 On Sep 5, 2020, at 8:25 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
 
 Hi!
 If you have a numeric keypad on theright of your keyboard it can work as 
 the quick nav.
 /A
 
> 5 sep. 2020 kl. 02:10 skrev Lorie McCloud :
> 
> no. it's because my right-arrow key is dead. took me awhile to figure 
> that out.
> 
>> On Sep 4, 2020, at 6:10 AM, Anders Holmberg  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Yeah, it sounds really strange.
>> Does it work properly in other apps like mail and others.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 4 sep. 2020 kl. 03:40 skrev Lorie McCloud :
>>> 
>>> yeah. that's what I was trying to do.also vo-right arrow does nothing. 
>>> maybe I have a problem with right-arrow on my keyboard.
>>> 
 On Sep 4, 2020, at 4:33 AM, Anders Holmberg  
 wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Have you tried turning quicknav on?
 /A
 
> 4 sep. 2020 kl. 04:14 skrev Lorie McCloud :
> 
> first of all I suppose I should mention that I'm still running 
> Mojave. in safari, when I press right and left arrow keys for 
> quick-nav it reads by character instead of saying anything about 
> quick-nav. I tried turning vo off and then back on again but no 
> change. is there anything else I can do to get normal behavior back?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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Re: strange vo behavior in safari on a Mac

2020-09-07 Thread Lorie McCloud
where's the numlock? sorry for my ignorance. I don't do much with the numpad.

> On Sep 7, 2020, at 4:44 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> You have to turn on  numpad-commander by pressing the vo +  numlock i think.
> /A
> 
>> 5 sep. 2020 kl. 19:48 skrev Lorie McCloud :
>> 
>> what part of the numeric keyboard do you use?
>> 
>>> On Sep 5, 2020, at 8:25 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> If you have a numeric keypad on theright of your keyboard it can work as 
>>> the quick nav.
>>> /A
>>> 
 5 sep. 2020 kl. 02:10 skrev Lorie McCloud :
 
 no. it's because my right-arrow key is dead. took me awhile to figure that 
 out.
 
> On Sep 4, 2020, at 6:10 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Yeah, it sounds really strange.
> Does it work properly in other apps like mail and others.
> /A
> 
>> 4 sep. 2020 kl. 03:40 skrev Lorie McCloud :
>> 
>> yeah. that's what I was trying to do.also vo-right arrow does nothing. 
>> maybe I have a problem with right-arrow on my keyboard.
>> 
>>> On Sep 4, 2020, at 4:33 AM, Anders Holmberg  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Have you tried turning quicknav on?
>>> /A
>>> 
 4 sep. 2020 kl. 04:14 skrev Lorie McCloud :
 
 first of all I suppose I should mention that I'm still running Mojave. 
 in safari, when I press right and left arrow keys for quick-nav it 
 reads by character instead of saying anything about quick-nav. I tried 
 turning vo off and then back on again but no change. is there anything 
 else I can do to get normal behavior back?
 
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Re: strange vo behavior in safari on a Mac

2020-09-07 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
You have to turn on  numpad-commander by pressing the vo +  numlock i think.
/A

> 5 sep. 2020 kl. 19:48 skrev Lorie McCloud :
> 
> what part of the numeric keyboard do you use?
> 
>> On Sep 5, 2020, at 8:25 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> If you have a numeric keypad on theright of your keyboard it can work as the 
>> quick nav.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 5 sep. 2020 kl. 02:10 skrev Lorie McCloud :
>>> 
>>> no. it's because my right-arrow key is dead. took me awhile to figure that 
>>> out.
>>> 
 On Sep 4, 2020, at 6:10 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Yeah, it sounds really strange.
 Does it work properly in other apps like mail and others.
 /A
 
> 4 sep. 2020 kl. 03:40 skrev Lorie McCloud :
> 
> yeah. that's what I was trying to do.also vo-right arrow does nothing. 
> maybe I have a problem with right-arrow on my keyboard.
> 
>> On Sep 4, 2020, at 4:33 AM, Anders Holmberg  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Have you tried turning quicknav on?
>> /A
>> 
>>> 4 sep. 2020 kl. 04:14 skrev Lorie McCloud :
>>> 
>>> first of all I suppose I should mention that I'm still running Mojave. 
>>> in safari, when I press right and left arrow keys for quick-nav it 
>>> reads by character instead of saying anything about quick-nav. I tried 
>>> turning vo off and then back on again but no change. is there anything 
>>> else I can do to get normal behavior back?
>>> 
>>> thanks.
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Re: strange vo behavior in safari on a Mac

2020-09-05 Thread Lorie McCloud
is there anything you can do about it or do you just have to get a new keyboard?

> On Sep 5, 2020, at 5:49 AM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
> 
> O, bummer. I had the same issue with my previous external Apple keyboard.  
> 
>> Op 5 sep. 2020, om 02:10 heeft Lorie McCloud  het 
>> volgende geschreven:
>> 
>> no. it's because my right-arrow key is dead. took me awhile to figure that 
>> out.
>> 
>>> On Sep 4, 2020, at 6:10 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Yeah, it sounds really strange.
>>> Does it work properly in other apps like mail and others.
>>> /A
>>> 
 4 sep. 2020 kl. 03:40 skrev Lorie McCloud :
 
 yeah. that's what I was trying to do.also vo-right arrow does nothing. 
 maybe I have a problem with right-arrow on my keyboard.
 
> On Sep 4, 2020, at 4:33 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Have you tried turning quicknav on?
> /A
> 
>> 4 sep. 2020 kl. 04:14 skrev Lorie McCloud :
>> 
>> first of all I suppose I should mention that I'm still running Mojave. 
>> in safari, when I press right and left arrow keys for quick-nav it reads 
>> by character instead of saying anything about quick-nav. I tried turning 
>> vo off and then back on again but no change. is there anything else I 
>> can do to get normal behavior back?
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
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Re: strange vo behavior in safari on a Mac

2020-09-05 Thread Lorie McCloud
what part of the numeric keyboard do you use?

> On Sep 5, 2020, at 8:25 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> If you have a numeric keypad on theright of your keyboard it can work as the 
> quick nav.
> /A
> 
>> 5 sep. 2020 kl. 02:10 skrev Lorie McCloud :
>> 
>> no. it's because my right-arrow key is dead. took me awhile to figure that 
>> out.
>> 
>>> On Sep 4, 2020, at 6:10 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Yeah, it sounds really strange.
>>> Does it work properly in other apps like mail and others.
>>> /A
>>> 
 4 sep. 2020 kl. 03:40 skrev Lorie McCloud :
 
 yeah. that's what I was trying to do.also vo-right arrow does nothing. 
 maybe I have a problem with right-arrow on my keyboard.
 
> On Sep 4, 2020, at 4:33 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Have you tried turning quicknav on?
> /A
> 
>> 4 sep. 2020 kl. 04:14 skrev Lorie McCloud :
>> 
>> first of all I suppose I should mention that I'm still running Mojave. 
>> in safari, when I press right and left arrow keys for quick-nav it reads 
>> by character instead of saying anything about quick-nav. I tried turning 
>> vo off and then back on again but no change. is there anything else I 
>> can do to get normal behavior back?
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
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Re: strange vo behavior in safari on a Mac

2020-09-05 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
If you have a numeric keypad on theright of your keyboard it can work as the 
quick nav.
/A

> 5 sep. 2020 kl. 02:10 skrev Lorie McCloud :
> 
> no. it's because my right-arrow key is dead. took me awhile to figure that 
> out.
> 
>> On Sep 4, 2020, at 6:10 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Yeah, it sounds really strange.
>> Does it work properly in other apps like mail and others.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 4 sep. 2020 kl. 03:40 skrev Lorie McCloud :
>>> 
>>> yeah. that's what I was trying to do.also vo-right arrow does nothing. 
>>> maybe I have a problem with right-arrow on my keyboard.
>>> 
 On Sep 4, 2020, at 4:33 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Have you tried turning quicknav on?
 /A
 
> 4 sep. 2020 kl. 04:14 skrev Lorie McCloud :
> 
> first of all I suppose I should mention that I'm still running Mojave. in 
> safari, when I press right and left arrow keys for quick-nav it reads by 
> character instead of saying anything about quick-nav. I tried turning vo 
> off and then back on again but no change. is there anything else I can do 
> to get normal behavior back?
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> Lorie
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Re: strange vo behavior in safari on a Mac

2020-09-05 Thread Ronald van Rhijn
O, bummer. I had the same issue with my previous external Apple keyboard.  

> Op 5 sep. 2020, om 02:10 heeft Lorie McCloud  het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> no. it's because my right-arrow key is dead. took me awhile to figure that 
> out.
> 
>> On Sep 4, 2020, at 6:10 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Yeah, it sounds really strange.
>> Does it work properly in other apps like mail and others.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 4 sep. 2020 kl. 03:40 skrev Lorie McCloud :
>>> 
>>> yeah. that's what I was trying to do.also vo-right arrow does nothing. 
>>> maybe I have a problem with right-arrow on my keyboard.
>>> 
 On Sep 4, 2020, at 4:33 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Have you tried turning quicknav on?
 /A
 
> 4 sep. 2020 kl. 04:14 skrev Lorie McCloud :
> 
> first of all I suppose I should mention that I'm still running Mojave. in 
> safari, when I press right and left arrow keys for quick-nav it reads by 
> character instead of saying anything about quick-nav. I tried turning vo 
> off and then back on again but no change. is there anything else I can do 
> to get normal behavior back?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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Re: strange vo behavior in safari on a Mac

2020-09-04 Thread Dave Carlson
Have you ensured that you did not unintentionally assign that keystroke to 
something else in the VO Keyboard Connamder?

Dave Carlson
 Oregonian, Farfar, Engineer, Musician, Pioneer, and Woodworker

> On Sep 4, 2020, at 5:06 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> from what I've been able to determine, the right-arrow on my standard Mac 
> keyboard has quit working. it's dead. is there any substitute for it anywhere 
> else on the keyboard? all the other keys are working as far as I can tell. 
> can anything be done about this or am I going to have to get a new keyboard?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
> 
>> On Sep 4, 2020, at 11:58 AM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
>> 
>> Perhaps you should restart your Mac, then see if that changes anything.
>> 
>> Ronald
>> 
>> 
>>> Op 4 sep. 2020, om 13:10 heeft Anders Holmberg  het 
>>> volgende geschreven:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Yeah, it sounds really strange.
>>> Does it work properly in other apps like mail and others.
>>> /A
>>> 
 4 sep. 2020 kl. 03:40 skrev Lorie McCloud :
 
 yeah. that's what I was trying to do.also vo-right arrow does nothing. 
 maybe I have a problem with right-arrow on my keyboard.
 
> On Sep 4, 2020, at 4:33 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Have you tried turning quicknav on?
> /A
> 
>> 4 sep. 2020 kl. 04:14 skrev Lorie McCloud :
>> 
>> first of all I suppose I should mention that I'm still running Mojave. 
>> in safari, when I press right and left arrow keys for quick-nav it reads 
>> by character instead of saying anything about quick-nav. I tried turning 
>> vo off and then back on again but no change. is there anything else I 
>> can do to get normal behavior back?
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
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Re: strange vo behavior in safari on a Mac

2020-09-04 Thread Lorie McCloud
no. it's because my right-arrow key is dead. took me awhile to figure that out.

> On Sep 4, 2020, at 6:10 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Yeah, it sounds really strange.
> Does it work properly in other apps like mail and others.
> /A
> 
>> 4 sep. 2020 kl. 03:40 skrev Lorie McCloud :
>> 
>> yeah. that's what I was trying to do.also vo-right arrow does nothing. maybe 
>> I have a problem with right-arrow on my keyboard.
>> 
>>> On Sep 4, 2020, at 4:33 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Have you tried turning quicknav on?
>>> /A
>>> 
 4 sep. 2020 kl. 04:14 skrev Lorie McCloud :
 
 first of all I suppose I should mention that I'm still running Mojave. in 
 safari, when I press right and left arrow keys for quick-nav it reads by 
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Re: strange vo behavior in safari on a Mac

2020-09-04 Thread Lorie McCloud
from what I've been able to determine, the right-arrow on my standard Mac 
keyboard has quit working. it's dead. is there any substitute for it anywhere 
else on the keyboard? all the other keys are working as far as I can tell. can 
anything be done about this or am I going to have to get a new keyboard?

thanks.
Lorie

> On Sep 4, 2020, at 11:58 AM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
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> Perhaps you should restart your Mac, then see if that changes anything.
> 
> Ronald
> 
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>> Op 4 sep. 2020, om 13:10 heeft Anders Holmberg  het 
>> volgende geschreven:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Yeah, it sounds really strange.
>> Does it work properly in other apps like mail and others.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 4 sep. 2020 kl. 03:40 skrev Lorie McCloud :
>>> 
>>> yeah. that's what I was trying to do.also vo-right arrow does nothing. 
>>> maybe I have a problem with right-arrow on my keyboard.
>>> 
 On Sep 4, 2020, at 4:33 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Have you tried turning quicknav on?
 /A
 
> 4 sep. 2020 kl. 04:14 skrev Lorie McCloud :
> 
> first of all I suppose I should mention that I'm still running Mojave. in 
> safari, when I press right and left arrow keys for quick-nav it reads by 
> character instead of saying anything about quick-nav. I tried turning vo 
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Re: strange vo behavior in safari on a Mac

2020-09-04 Thread Ronald van Rhijn
Perhaps you should restart your Mac, then see if that changes anything.

Ronald


> Op 4 sep. 2020, om 13:10 heeft Anders Holmberg  het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> Hi!
> Yeah, it sounds really strange.
> Does it work properly in other apps like mail and others.
> /A
> 
>> 4 sep. 2020 kl. 03:40 skrev Lorie McCloud :
>> 
>> yeah. that's what I was trying to do.also vo-right arrow does nothing. maybe 
>> I have a problem with right-arrow on my keyboard.
>> 
>>> On Sep 4, 2020, at 4:33 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Have you tried turning quicknav on?
>>> /A
>>> 
 4 sep. 2020 kl. 04:14 skrev Lorie McCloud :
 
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 safari, when I press right and left arrow keys for quick-nav it reads by 
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Re: strange vo behavior in safari on a Mac

2020-09-04 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
Yeah, it sounds really strange.
Does it work properly in other apps like mail and others.
/A

> 4 sep. 2020 kl. 03:40 skrev Lorie McCloud :
> 
> yeah. that's what I was trying to do.also vo-right arrow does nothing. maybe 
> I have a problem with right-arrow on my keyboard.
> 
>> On Sep 4, 2020, at 4:33 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Have you tried turning quicknav on?
>> /A
>> 
>>> 4 sep. 2020 kl. 04:14 skrev Lorie McCloud :
>>> 
>>> first of all I suppose I should mention that I'm still running Mojave. in 
>>> safari, when I press right and left arrow keys for quick-nav it reads by 
>>> character instead of saying anything about quick-nav. I tried turning vo 
>>> off and then back on again but no change. is there anything else I can do 
>>> to get normal behavior back?
>>> 
>>> thanks.
>>> Lorie
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Re: strange vo behavior in safari on a Mac

2020-09-04 Thread Lorie McCloud
yeah. that's what I was trying to do.also vo-right arrow does nothing. maybe I 
have a problem with right-arrow on my keyboard.

> On Sep 4, 2020, at 4:33 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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>> safari, when I press right and left arrow keys for quick-nav it reads by 
>> character instead of saying anything about quick-nav. I tried turning vo off 
>> and then back on again but no change. is there anything else I can do to get 
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Re: strange vo behavior in safari on a Mac

2020-09-04 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
Have you tried turning quicknav on?
/A

> 4 sep. 2020 kl. 04:14 skrev Lorie McCloud :
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> Lorie
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strange vo behavior in safari on a Mac

2020-09-03 Thread Lorie McCloud
first of all I suppose I should mention that I'm still running Mojave. in 
safari, when I press right and left arrow keys for quick-nav it reads by 
character instead of saying anything about quick-nav. I tried turning vo off 
and then back on again but no change. is there anything else I can do to get 
normal behavior back?

thanks.
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Re: downloading with Safari on a Mac

2020-06-28 Thread Jonathan Cohn
What I did a long time ago…

1. Bring up the contextual menu on the Downloads folder and click "Folder 
Actions Setup …"
2.  After you get to the dialog of scripts (you might need to click add button) 
Add the script
"table Row 1 of 26 add - new item alert.scpt 
This will create a dialog anytime something is added to the downloads folder 
and say something like click yes to open the folder. 
The only problem with this when using the downloads folder is that you will 
usually get two dialogs from Safari downloads 1 for the incomplete version that 
has an extension of .download and one for the completed download.
 "
Best wishes,
If there is enough interest, I could modify the script to exclude download 
files.

Jonathan Cohn



> On Jun 25, 2020, at 10:52 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> on my Mac it's a click.
> 
>> On Jun 25, 2020, at 4:14 AM, trevor scott > > wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve never heard a bleep and when else would you look to see if your 
>> download has finished except when your downloading?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 25 Jun 2020, at 09:42, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> That option will only work if there is a download in progress.  Anyway when 
>>> you do get a download then you hear a small bleep of some kind.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
>>> 
 On 25 Jun 2020, at 04:31, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
 wrote:
 
   When I download a file in Safari and know it is going to take time, I do 
 the cmd-option-l and VO-left (I think its left) to the download table and 
 intaract with it. VO-shift-down arrow. Interact again with the download in 
 progress. Thie table can have multiple downloads going such as TV shows or 
 movies. I don't use the Finder for this.
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
 Many believe that we have been visited
 in the past. What if it were true?
 
 On 6/24/2020 8:19 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
> I apparently don't know anything about this.I thought it was the 
> downloads folder in finder we were talking about. I found downloads in 
> the toolbar but it says: "no title to interact" when I try. can you tell 
> me how to interact with the downloads table and manage that way?
> thanks.
> Lorie
>> On Jun 24, 2020, at 6:58 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>> > > wrote:
>> 
>>   It's a simple thing to open the download manager and interact with the 
>> table to monitor downloads.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>> 
>> On 6/24/2020 4:38 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
>>> I just quite that one, started it again and interacted with the 
>>> download as soon as I started it. this time I did get the progress 
>>> indicator.
 On Jun 24, 2020, at 5:17 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn >>> > wrote:
 
 Good evening,
 Did you check in the privacy and security and see what other site 
 you’re trying to download from is allowing downloads? When Catalina 
 came out last year, the safari that came out at the same time requires 
 you to approve downloads from domains.
 Good luck!
 Jonathan Sorry for the dictation errors, but I believe you’ll be able 
 to understand what I’m trying to say.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jun 24, 2020, at 4:58 PM, Lorie McCloud  > wrote:
> 
> I'm still running Mojave. I'm downloading a file and I think it may 
> have gotten stuck so I press command-option-l to check the status and 
> I get things like "zoom out" and "make text smaller". seems like it 
> might be a focus problem. how can I get it to show me what I want to 
> see?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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Re: downloading with Safari on a Mac

2020-06-28 Thread 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries
You can still get the old Downloads window back, if you want it badly enough. 
But it’s a fiddly thing: you have to drag and drop the Downloads button out of 
the toolbar, and doing that with VO is still surprisingly hard because you’ll 
usually activate it in the process. It’s easier just to press the button (or 
Command-Option-L), find the table, interact with that, then find and interact 
with the download of interest, and there’s your progress metre and transfer 
stats. I should go into Safari preferences and change the “Remove downloads” 
option to “Upon successful download” so your list will clean itself up 
automagically.

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Re: downloading with Safari on a Mac

2020-06-26 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
I have my audio from voiceOver muted as they annoys me more then help.
/A

> 26 juni 2020 kl. 04:52 skrev Lorie McCloud :
> 
> on my Mac it's a click.
> 
>> On Jun 25, 2020, at 4:14 AM, trevor scott > > wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve never heard a bleep and when else would you look to see if your 
>> download has finished except when your downloading?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 25 Jun 2020, at 09:42, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> That option will only work if there is a download in progress.  Anyway when 
>>> you do get a download then you hear a small bleep of some kind.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
>>> 
 On 25 Jun 2020, at 04:31, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
 wrote:
 
   When I download a file in Safari and know it is going to take time, I do 
 the cmd-option-l and VO-left (I think its left) to the download table and 
 intaract with it. VO-shift-down arrow. Interact again with the download in 
 progress. Thie table can have multiple downloads going such as TV shows or 
 movies. I don't use the Finder for this.
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
 Many believe that we have been visited
 in the past. What if it were true?
 
 On 6/24/2020 8:19 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
> I apparently don't know anything about this.I thought it was the 
> downloads folder in finder we were talking about. I found downloads in 
> the toolbar but it says: "no title to interact" when I try. can you tell 
> me how to interact with the downloads table and manage that way?
> thanks.
> Lorie
>> On Jun 24, 2020, at 6:58 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>> > > wrote:
>> 
>>   It's a simple thing to open the download manager and interact with the 
>> table to monitor downloads.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>> 
>> On 6/24/2020 4:38 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
>>> I just quite that one, started it again and interacted with the 
>>> download as soon as I started it. this time I did get the progress 
>>> indicator.
 On Jun 24, 2020, at 5:17 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn >>> > wrote:
 
 Good evening,
 Did you check in the privacy and security and see what other site 
 you’re trying to download from is allowing downloads? When Catalina 
 came out last year, the safari that came out at the same time requires 
 you to approve downloads from domains.
 Good luck!
 Jonathan Sorry for the dictation errors, but I believe you’ll be able 
 to understand what I’m trying to say.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jun 24, 2020, at 4:58 PM, Lorie McCloud  > wrote:
> 
> I'm still running Mojave. I'm downloading a file and I think it may 
> have gotten stuck so I press command-option-l to check the status and 
> I get things like "zoom out" and "make text smaller". seems like it 
> might be a focus problem. how can I get it to show me what I want to 
> see?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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Re: downloading with Safari on a Mac

2020-06-25 Thread Lorie McCloud
on my Mac it's a click.

> On Jun 25, 2020, at 4:14 AM, trevor scott  wrote:
> 
> I’ve never heard a bleep and when else would you look to see if your download 
> has finished except when your downloading?
> 
> 
> 
>> On 25 Jun 2020, at 09:42, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> That option will only work if there is a download in progress.  Anyway when 
>> you do get a download then you hear a small bleep of some kind.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> 
>>> On 25 Jun 2020, at 04:31, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>   When I download a file in Safari and know it is going to take time, I do 
>>> the cmd-option-l and VO-left (I think its left) to the download table and 
>>> intaract with it. VO-shift-down arrow. Interact again with the download in 
>>> progress. Thie table can have multiple downloads going such as TV shows or 
>>> movies. I don't use the Finder for this.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> 
>>> On 6/24/2020 8:19 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
 I apparently don't know anything about this.I thought it was the downloads 
 folder in finder we were talking about. I found downloads in the toolbar 
 but it says: "no title to interact" when I try. can you tell me how to 
 interact with the downloads table and manage that way?
 thanks.
 Lorie
> On Jun 24, 2020, at 6:58 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  > wrote:
> 
>   It's a simple thing to open the download manager and interact with the 
> table to monitor downloads.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 6/24/2020 4:38 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
>> I just quite that one, started it again and interacted with the download 
>> as soon as I started it. this time I did get the progress indicator.
>>> On Jun 24, 2020, at 5:17 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good evening,
>>> Did you check in the privacy and security and see what other site 
>>> you’re trying to download from is allowing downloads? When Catalina 
>>> came out last year, the safari that came out at the same time requires 
>>> you to approve downloads from domains.
>>> Good luck!
>>> Jonathan Sorry for the dictation errors, but I believe you’ll be able 
>>> to understand what I’m trying to say.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jun 24, 2020, at 4:58 PM, Lorie McCloud >>> > wrote:
 
 I'm still running Mojave. I'm downloading a file and I think it may 
 have gotten stuck so I press command-option-l to check the status and 
 I get things like "zoom out" and "make text smaller". seems like it 
 might be a focus problem. how can I get it to show me what I want to 
 see?
 
 thanks.
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Re: downloading with Safari on a Mac

2020-06-25 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries

   Look in System preferences, Sounds.

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On 6/25/2020 2:14 AM, trevor scott wrote:
I’ve never heard a bleep and when else would you look to see if your 
download has finished except when your downloading?




On 25 Jun 2020, at 09:42, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
> wrote:


That option will only work if there is a download in progress.  Anyway 
when you do get a download then you hear a small bleep of some kind.


Kawal.

On 25 Jun 2020, at 04:31, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> wrote:


  When I download a file in Safari and know it is going to take time, 
I do the cmd-option-l and VO-left (I think its left) to the download 
table and intaract with it. VO-shift-down arrow. Interact again with 
the download in progress. Thie table can have multiple downloads 
going such as TV shows or movies. I don't use the Finder for this.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 6/24/2020 8:19 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
I apparently don't know anything about this.I thought it was the 
downloads folder in finder we were talking about. I found downloads 
in the toolbar but it says: "no title to interact" when I try. can 
you tell me how to interact with the downloads table and manage that 
way?

thanks.
Lorie
On Jun 24, 2020, at 6:58 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> wrote:


  It's a simple thing to open the download manager and interact 
with the table to monitor downloads.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 6/24/2020 4:38 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
I just quite that one, started it again and interacted with the 
download as soon as I started it. this time I did get the progress 
indicator.
On Jun 24, 2020, at 5:17 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn 
mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Good evening,
Did you check in the privacy and security and see what other site 
you’re trying to download from is allowing downloads? When 
Catalina came out last year, the safari that came out at the same 
time requires you to approve downloads from domains.

Good luck!
Jonathan Sorry for the dictation errors, but I believe you’ll be 
able to understand what I’m trying to say.


Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 24, 2020, at 4:58 PM, Lorie McCloud > wrote:


I'm still running Mojave. I'm downloading a file and I think it 
may have gotten stuck so I press command-option-l to check the 
status and I get things like "zoom out" and "make text smaller". 
seems like it might be a focus problem. how can I get it to show 
me what I want to see?


thanks.
Lorie

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Re: downloading with Safari on a Mac

2020-06-25 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
   If the download completed you will hear something like 'there is no 
items'. If one is still in progress you will find it in the downloads table.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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On 6/25/2020 2:14 AM, trevor scott wrote:
I’ve never heard a bleep and when else would you look to see if your 
download has finished except when your downloading?




On 25 Jun 2020, at 09:42, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
> wrote:


That option will only work if there is a download in progress.  Anyway 
when you do get a download then you hear a small bleep of some kind.


Kawal.

On 25 Jun 2020, at 04:31, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> wrote:


  When I download a file in Safari and know it is going to take time, 
I do the cmd-option-l and VO-left (I think its left) to the download 
table and intaract with it. VO-shift-down arrow. Interact again with 
the download in progress. Thie table can have multiple downloads 
going such as TV shows or movies. I don't use the Finder for this.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 6/24/2020 8:19 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
I apparently don't know anything about this.I thought it was the 
downloads folder in finder we were talking about. I found downloads 
in the toolbar but it says: "no title to interact" when I try. can 
you tell me how to interact with the downloads table and manage that 
way?

thanks.
Lorie
On Jun 24, 2020, at 6:58 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> wrote:


  It's a simple thing to open the download manager and interact 
with the table to monitor downloads.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 6/24/2020 4:38 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
I just quite that one, started it again and interacted with the 
download as soon as I started it. this time I did get the progress 
indicator.
On Jun 24, 2020, at 5:17 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn 
mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Good evening,
Did you check in the privacy and security and see what other site 
you’re trying to download from is allowing downloads? When 
Catalina came out last year, the safari that came out at the same 
time requires you to approve downloads from domains.

Good luck!
Jonathan Sorry for the dictation errors, but I believe you’ll be 
able to understand what I’m trying to say.


Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 24, 2020, at 4:58 PM, Lorie McCloud > wrote:


I'm still running Mojave. I'm downloading a file and I think it 
may have gotten stuck so I press command-option-l to check the 
status and I get things like "zoom out" and "make text smaller". 
seems like it might be a focus problem. how can I get it to show 
me what I want to see?


thanks.
Lorie

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Re: downloading with Safari on a Mac

2020-06-25 Thread 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries
May be you need to put some sounds on, I don’t know how I have it.

Kawal.

> On 25 Jun 2020, at 10:14, trevor scott  wrote:
> 
> I’ve never heard a bleep and when else would you look to see if your download 
> has finished except when your downloading?
> 
> 
> 
>> On 25 Jun 2020, at 09:42, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> That option will only work if there is a download in progress.  Anyway when 
>> you do get a download then you hear a small bleep of some kind.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> 
>>> On 25 Jun 2020, at 04:31, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>   When I download a file in Safari and know it is going to take time, I do 
>>> the cmd-option-l and VO-left (I think its left) to the download table and 
>>> intaract with it. VO-shift-down arrow. Interact again with the download in 
>>> progress. Thie table can have multiple downloads going such as TV shows or 
>>> movies. I don't use the Finder for this.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
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>>> On 6/24/2020 8:19 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
 I apparently don't know anything about this.I thought it was the downloads 
 folder in finder we were talking about. I found downloads in the toolbar 
 but it says: "no title to interact" when I try. can you tell me how to 
 interact with the downloads table and manage that way?
 thanks.
 Lorie
> On Jun 24, 2020, at 6:58 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  > wrote:
> 
>   It's a simple thing to open the download manager and interact with the 
> table to monitor downloads.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 6/24/2020 4:38 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
>> I just quite that one, started it again and interacted with the download 
>> as soon as I started it. this time I did get the progress indicator.
>>> On Jun 24, 2020, at 5:17 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good evening,
>>> Did you check in the privacy and security and see what other site 
>>> you’re trying to download from is allowing downloads? When Catalina 
>>> came out last year, the safari that came out at the same time requires 
>>> you to approve downloads from domains.
>>> Good luck!
>>> Jonathan Sorry for the dictation errors, but I believe you’ll be able 
>>> to understand what I’m trying to say.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jun 24, 2020, at 4:58 PM, Lorie McCloud >>> > wrote:
 
 I'm still running Mojave. I'm downloading a file and I think it may 
 have gotten stuck so I press command-option-l to check the status and 
 I get things like "zoom out" and "make text smaller". seems like it 
 might be a focus problem. how can I get it to show me what I want to 
 see?
 
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Re: downloading with Safari on a Mac

2020-06-25 Thread trevor scott
I’ve never heard a bleep and when else would you look to see if your download 
has finished except when your downloading?



> On 25 Jun 2020, at 09:42, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> That option will only work if there is a download in progress.  Anyway when 
> you do get a download then you hear a small bleep of some kind.
> 
> Kawal.
> 
>> On 25 Jun 2020, at 04:31, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>   When I download a file in Safari and know it is going to take time, I do 
>> the cmd-option-l and VO-left (I think its left) to the download table and 
>> intaract with it. VO-shift-down arrow. Interact again with the download in 
>> progress. Thie table can have multiple downloads going such as TV shows or 
>> movies. I don't use the Finder for this.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>> 
>> On 6/24/2020 8:19 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
>>> I apparently don't know anything about this.I thought it was the downloads 
>>> folder in finder we were talking about. I found downloads in the toolbar 
>>> but it says: "no title to interact" when I try. can you tell me how to 
>>> interact with the downloads table and manage that way?
>>> thanks.
>>> Lorie
 On Jun 24, 2020, at 6:58 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
 wrote:
 
   It's a simple thing to open the download manager and interact with the 
 table to monitor downloads.
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
 Many believe that we have been visited
 in the past. What if it were true?
 
 On 6/24/2020 4:38 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
> I just quite that one, started it again and interacted with the download 
> as soon as I started it. this time I did get the progress indicator.
>> On Jun 24, 2020, at 5:17 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn > > wrote:
>> 
>> Good evening,
>> Did you check in the privacy and security and see what other site you’re 
>> trying to download from is allowing downloads? When Catalina came out 
>> last year, the safari that came out at the same time requires you to 
>> approve downloads from domains.
>> Good luck!
>> Jonathan Sorry for the dictation errors, but I believe you’ll be able to 
>> understand what I’m trying to say.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 24, 2020, at 4:58 PM, Lorie McCloud >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm still running Mojave. I'm downloading a file and I think it may 
>>> have gotten stuck so I press command-option-l to check the status and I 
>>> get things like "zoom out" and "make text smaller". seems like it might 
>>> be a focus problem. how can I get it to show me what I want to see?
>>> 
>>> thanks.
>>> Lorie
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Re: downloading with Safari on a Mac

2020-06-25 Thread 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries
That option will only work if there is a download in progress.  Anyway when you 
do get a download then you hear a small bleep of some kind.

Kawal.

> On 25 Jun 2020, at 04:31, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   When I download a file in Safari and know it is going to take time, I do 
> the cmd-option-l and VO-left (I think its left) to the download table and 
> intaract with it. VO-shift-down arrow. Interact again with the download in 
> progress. Thie table can have multiple downloads going such as TV shows or 
> movies. I don't use the Finder for this.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 6/24/2020 8:19 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
>> I apparently don't know anything about this.I thought it was the downloads 
>> folder in finder we were talking about. I found downloads in the toolbar but 
>> it says: "no title to interact" when I try. can you tell me how to interact 
>> with the downloads table and manage that way?
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
>>> On Jun 24, 2020, at 6:58 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>   It's a simple thing to open the download manager and interact with the 
>>> table to monitor downloads.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> 
>>> On 6/24/2020 4:38 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
 I just quite that one, started it again and interacted with the download 
 as soon as I started it. this time I did get the progress indicator.
> On Jun 24, 2020, at 5:17 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn  
> wrote:
> 
> Good evening,
> Did you check in the privacy and security and see what other site you’re 
> trying to download from is allowing downloads? When Catalina came out 
> last year, the safari that came out at the same time requires you to 
> approve downloads from domains.
> Good luck!
> Jonathan Sorry for the dictation errors, but I believe you’ll be able to 
> understand what I’m trying to say.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 24, 2020, at 4:58 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> I'm still running Mojave. I'm downloading a file and I think it may 
>> have gotten stuck so I press command-option-l to check the status and I 
>> get things like "zoom out" and "make text smaller". seems like it might 
>> be a focus problem. how can I get it to show me what I want to see?
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
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Re: downloading with Safari on a Mac

2020-06-25 Thread trevor scott
the way I do it is;
command option l, then it says clear.  Tab once and you get the downloads, tab 
once more and that’s where you find ou whether it has downloaded or not.
If it says stop then it is still downloading and if it says show in finder then 
it is finished.
If you VO right arrow to the right a few times it should tell you how much it 
it has downloaded so far.

Also, if you don’t want it to download to downloads, you can go to Safari and
command comma to preferences and change a lot of things and one of them is 
where you want to download to.

Cheers 

Trevor
on 25 Jun 2020, at 00:36, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> I can still get that if you mean the clicking sound that happens when a file 
> is downloading. you press command-option-l. then I hear "clear downloads". it 
> sounds like a command, like you're in history or something but actually you 
> can vo-shift right or left and you have downloads and clear. interact with 
> downloads then find the particular download that's happening at the moment 
> and interact with that. then you get your progress indicator. at least that's 
> the way it is in Mojave.
> 
>> On Jun 24, 2020, at 5:24 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi.
>> 
>> When I got my first Mac in 2010 it was snow leopard.  I remember when I 
>> started downloading things, you could interact with the download viewer and 
>> you could hear the sound of the software downloading.  Those were the days.  
>> I like the sound of software installing although they have taken the classic 
>> sound of the software downloading away or it’s not as pronounced as before.  
>> Something which you would not get in windows.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> 
>>> On 24 Jun 2020, at 23:17, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good evening,
>>> Did you check in the privacy and security and see what other site you’re 
>>> trying to download from is allowing downloads? When Catalina came out last 
>>> year, the safari that came out at the same time requires you to approve 
>>> downloads from domains.
>>> Good luck!
>>> Jonathan Sorry for the dictation errors, but I believe you’ll be able to 
>>> understand what I’m trying to say.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jun 24, 2020, at 4:58 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
 
 I'm still running Mojave. I'm downloading a file and I think it may have 
 gotten stuck so I press command-option-l to check the status and I get 
 things like "zoom out" and "make text smaller". seems like it might be a 
 focus problem. how can I get it to show me what I want to see?
 
 thanks.
 Lorie
 
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Re: downloading with Safari on a Mac

2020-06-24 Thread Lorie McCloud
oh! yeah. I do that too. I just didn't think of it as the downloads table.

> On Jun 24, 2020, at 10:31 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   When I download a file in Safari and know it is going to take time, I do 
> the cmd-option-l and VO-left (I think its left) to the download table and 
> intaract with it. VO-shift-down arrow. Interact again with the download in 
> progress. Thie table can have multiple downloads going such as TV shows or 
> movies. I don't use the Finder for this.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 6/24/2020 8:19 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
>> I apparently don't know anything about this.I thought it was the downloads 
>> folder in finder we were talking about. I found downloads in the toolbar but 
>> it says: "no title to interact" when I try. can you tell me how to interact 
>> with the downloads table and manage that way?
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
>>> On Jun 24, 2020, at 6:58 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>   It's a simple thing to open the download manager and interact with the 
>>> table to monitor downloads.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> 
>>> On 6/24/2020 4:38 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
 I just quite that one, started it again and interacted with the download 
 as soon as I started it. this time I did get the progress indicator.
> On Jun 24, 2020, at 5:17 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn  
> wrote:
> 
> Good evening,
> Did you check in the privacy and security and see what other site you’re 
> trying to download from is allowing downloads? When Catalina came out 
> last year, the safari that came out at the same time requires you to 
> approve downloads from domains.
> Good luck!
> Jonathan Sorry for the dictation errors, but I believe you’ll be able to 
> understand what I’m trying to say.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 24, 2020, at 4:58 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> I'm still running Mojave. I'm downloading a file and I think it may 
>> have gotten stuck so I press command-option-l to check the status and I 
>> get things like "zoom out" and "make text smaller". seems like it might 
>> be a focus problem. how can I get it to show me what I want to see?
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
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Re: downloading with Safari on a Mac

2020-06-24 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
   When I download a file in Safari and know it is going to take time, 
I do the cmd-option-l and VO-left (I think its left) to the download 
table and intaract with it. VO-shift-down arrow. Interact again with the 
download in progress. Thie table can have multiple downloads going such 
as TV shows or movies. I don't use the Finder for this.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 6/24/2020 8:19 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:

I apparently don't know anything about this.I thought it was the downloads folder in 
finder we were talking about. I found downloads in the toolbar but it says: "no 
title to interact" when I try. can you tell me how to interact with the downloads 
table and manage that way?

thanks.
Lorie


On Jun 24, 2020, at 6:58 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

   It's a simple thing to open the download manager and interact with the table 
to monitor downloads.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 6/24/2020 4:38 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:

I just quite that one, started it again and interacted with the download as 
soon as I started it. this time I did get the progress indicator.

On Jun 24, 2020, at 5:17 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:

Good evening,
Did you check in the privacy and security and see what other site you’re trying 
to download from is allowing downloads? When Catalina came out last year, the 
safari that came out at the same time requires you to approve downloads from 
domains.
Good luck!
Jonathan Sorry for the dictation errors, but I believe you’ll be able to 
understand what I’m trying to say.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 24, 2020, at 4:58 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

I'm still running Mojave. I'm downloading a file and I think it may have gotten stuck so I press 
command-option-l to check the status and I get things like "zoom out" and "make text 
smaller". seems like it might be a focus problem. how can I get it to show me what I want to 
see?

thanks.
Lorie

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Re: downloading with Safari on a Mac

2020-06-24 Thread Lorie McCloud
I apparently don't know anything about this.I thought it was the downloads 
folder in finder we were talking about. I found downloads in the toolbar but it 
says: "no title to interact" when I try. can you tell me how to interact with 
the downloads table and manage that way?

thanks.
Lorie

> On Jun 24, 2020, at 6:58 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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>   It's a simple thing to open the download manager and interact with the 
> table to monitor downloads.
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> Many believe that we have been visited
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> On 6/24/2020 4:38 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
>> I just quite that one, started it again and interacted with the download as 
>> soon as I started it. this time I did get the progress indicator.
>>> On Jun 24, 2020, at 5:17 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good evening,
>>> Did you check in the privacy and security and see what other site you’re 
>>> trying to download from is allowing downloads? When Catalina came out last 
>>> year, the safari that came out at the same time requires you to approve 
>>> downloads from domains.
>>> Good luck!
>>> Jonathan Sorry for the dictation errors, but I believe you’ll be able to 
>>> understand what I’m trying to say.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jun 24, 2020, at 4:58 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
 
 I'm still running Mojave. I'm downloading a file and I think it may have 
 gotten stuck so I press command-option-l to check the status and I get 
 things like "zoom out" and "make text smaller". seems like it might be a 
 focus problem. how can I get it to show me what I want to see?
 
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Re: downloading with Safari on a Mac

2020-06-24 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
   It's a simple thing to open the download manager and interact with 
the table to monitor downloads.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 6/24/2020 4:38 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:

I just quite that one, started it again and interacted with the download as 
soon as I started it. this time I did get the progress indicator.


On Jun 24, 2020, at 5:17 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:

Good evening,
Did you check in the privacy and security and see what other site you’re trying 
to download from is allowing downloads? When Catalina came out last year, the 
safari that came out at the same time requires you to approve downloads from 
domains.
Good luck!
Jonathan Sorry for the dictation errors, but I believe you’ll be able to 
understand what I’m trying to say.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 24, 2020, at 4:58 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

I'm still running Mojave. I'm downloading a file and I think it may have gotten stuck so I press 
command-option-l to check the status and I get things like "zoom out" and "make text 
smaller". seems like it might be a focus problem. how can I get it to show me what I want to 
see?

thanks.
Lorie

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Re: downloading with Safari on a Mac

2020-06-24 Thread Lorie McCloud
I just quite that one, started it again and interacted with the download as 
soon as I started it. this time I did get the progress indicator.

> On Jun 24, 2020, at 5:17 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
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> Good evening,
> Did you check in the privacy and security and see what other site you’re 
> trying to download from is allowing downloads? When Catalina came out last 
> year, the safari that came out at the same time requires you to approve 
> downloads from domains.
> Good luck!
> Jonathan Sorry for the dictation errors, but I believe you’ll be able to 
> understand what I’m trying to say.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jun 24, 2020, at 4:58 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> I'm still running Mojave. I'm downloading a file and I think it may have 
>> gotten stuck so I press command-option-l to check the status and I get 
>> things like "zoom out" and "make text smaller". seems like it might be a 
>> focus problem. how can I get it to show me what I want to see?
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
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Re: downloading with Safari on a Mac

2020-06-24 Thread Lorie McCloud
I can still get that if you mean the clicking sound that happens when a file is 
downloading. you press command-option-l. then I hear "clear downloads". it 
sounds like a command, like you're in history or something but actually you can 
vo-shift right or left and you have downloads and clear. interact with 
downloads then find the particular download that's happening at the moment and 
interact with that. then you get your progress indicator. at least that's the 
way it is in Mojave.

> On Jun 24, 2020, at 5:24 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi.
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> When I got my first Mac in 2010 it was snow leopard.  I remember when I 
> started downloading things, you could interact with the download viewer and 
> you could hear the sound of the software downloading.  Those were the days.  
> I like the sound of software installing although they have taken the classic 
> sound of the software downloading away or it’s not as pronounced as before.  
> Something which you would not get in windows.
> 
> Kawal.
> 
>> On 24 Jun 2020, at 23:17, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
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>> Good evening,
>> Did you check in the privacy and security and see what other site you’re 
>> trying to download from is allowing downloads? When Catalina came out last 
>> year, the safari that came out at the same time requires you to approve 
>> downloads from domains.
>> Good luck!
>> Jonathan Sorry for the dictation errors, but I believe you’ll be able to 
>> understand what I’m trying to say.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 24, 2020, at 4:58 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm still running Mojave. I'm downloading a file and I think it may have 
>>> gotten stuck so I press command-option-l to check the status and I get 
>>> things like "zoom out" and "make text smaller". seems like it might be a 
>>> focus problem. how can I get it to show me what I want to see?
>>> 
>>> thanks.
>>> Lorie
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Re: downloading with Safari on a Mac

2020-06-24 Thread 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries
Hi.

When I got my first Mac in 2010 it was snow leopard.  I remember when I started 
downloading things, you could interact with the download viewer and you could 
hear the sound of the software downloading.  Those were the days.  I like the 
sound of software installing although they have taken the classic sound of the 
software downloading away or it’s not as pronounced as before.  Something which 
you would not get in windows.

Kawal.

> On 24 Jun 2020, at 23:17, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
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> Good evening,
> Did you check in the privacy and security and see what other site you’re 
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> year, the safari that came out at the same time requires you to approve 
> downloads from domains.
> Good luck!
> Jonathan Sorry for the dictation errors, but I believe you’ll be able to 
> understand what I’m trying to say.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jun 24, 2020, at 4:58 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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>> I'm still running Mojave. I'm downloading a file and I think it may have 
>> gotten stuck so I press command-option-l to check the status and I get 
>> things like "zoom out" and "make text smaller". seems like it might be a 
>> focus problem. how can I get it to show me what I want to see?
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
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Re: downloading with Safari on a Mac

2020-06-24 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn
Good evening,
Did you check in the privacy and security and see what other site you’re trying 
to download from is allowing downloads? When Catalina came out last year, the 
safari that came out at the same time requires you to approve downloads from 
domains.
Good luck!
Jonathan Sorry for the dictation errors, but I believe you’ll be able to 
understand what I’m trying to say.

Sent from my iPhone

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> gotten stuck so I press command-option-l to check the status and I get things 
> like "zoom out" and "make text smaller". seems like it might be a focus 
> problem. how can I get it to show me what I want to see?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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Re: downloading with Safari on a Mac

2020-06-24 Thread Lorie McCloud
I know how to get into my downloads folder. I regularly watch it to see when 
downloads have finished. I wanted to hear what was going on in Safari because 
sometimes downloads get hung up by interruptions in internet service and other 
things.

> On Jun 24, 2020, at 4:32 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
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> Try doing CMD + Tab to make Finder the active application, then CMD + POT + L 
> to open the Downloads folder.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Jun 24, 2020, at 15:57, Lorie McCloud  > wrote:
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Re: downloading with Safari on a Mac

2020-06-24 Thread Brad Snyder
Within Safari 13.1.1, the command CMD + OPT + L should still open the Downloads 
viewer.
The shortcut does not seem to have changed.

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Hi,

This shortcut may have changed.  Try interacting with the Safari Toolbar, then 
press VO-End (use FN+right arrow on a laptop) and the Downloads button should 
be near there.

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On Jun 24, 2020, at 2:57 PM, Lorie McCloud mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I'm still running Mojave. I'm downloading a file and I think it may have gotten 
stuck so I press command-option-l to check the status and I get things like 
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Re: downloading with Safari on a Mac

2020-06-24 Thread Brad Snyder
Try doing CMD + Tab to make Finder the active application, then CMD + POT + L 
to open the Downloads folder.

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I'm still running Mojave. I'm downloading a file and I think it may have gotten 
stuck so I press command-option-l to check the status and I get things like 
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Re: downloading with Safari on a Mac

2020-06-24 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi,

This shortcut may have changed.  Try interacting with the Safari Toolbar, then 
press VO-End (use FN+right arrow on a laptop) and the Downloads button should 
be near there.

Later…


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I'm still running Mojave. I'm downloading a file and I think it may have gotten 
stuck so I press command-option-l to check the status and I get things like 
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downloading with Safari on a Mac

2020-06-24 Thread Lorie McCloud
I'm still running Mojave. I'm downloading a file and I think it may have gotten 
stuck so I press command-option-l to check the status and I get things like 
"zoom out" and "make text smaller". seems like it might be a focus problem. how 
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Re: Safari on a Mac

2020-04-20 Thread Brad Snyder
Actually, you need to do this twice.  Once to stop interacting with the address 
field, and once to stop interacting with the toolbar.

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Hi Lorie,

When you open the address field, you are in the Safari toolbar. You can stop 
interacting with the toolbar at that point by pressing VO+shift+up arrow.

Robert Carter



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Re: Safari on a Mac

2020-04-20 Thread Robert Carter
Hi Lorie,

When you open the address field, you are in the Safari toolbar. You can stop 
interacting with the toolbar at that point by pressing VO+shift+up arrow.

Robert Carter



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Safari on a Mac

2020-04-20 Thread Lorie McCloud
is there a keystroke I can use to close the address bar in Safari after I have 
opened it? 

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Re: Safari on a Mac

2020-02-06 Thread Brad Snyder
I believe that checkbox is for the auto-fill feature for userIDs and passwords 
that have been save into Safari’s autofill password feature.
I don’t think this has anything to do with Safari suggesting strong passwords.

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On Feb 6, 2020, at 18:46, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:

I can’t test this right now, but there is a checkbox for autofill password and 
user names in the Password area of the Safari preferences.


> On Feb 5, 2020, at 12:55 AM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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Re: Safari on a Mac

2020-02-06 Thread Jonathan Cohn
I can’t test this right now, but there is a checkbox for autofill password and 
user names in the Password area of the Safari preferences.


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Safari on a Mac

2020-02-04 Thread Lorie McCloud
is there a way to prevent Safari from suggesting a password when I'm signing up 
for something on a website? I don't like using those because I can't really 
read them letter by letter to write them down. of course I can press "don't 
use" but they keep popping up.

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Re: Safari on a Mac

2019-11-10 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn
There certainly was an update in Safari this week. I haven’t noticed any 
changes, but I haven’t really looked yet either.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 10, 2019, at 5:51 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> I'm still running Mojave but there must have been another update to Safari. 
> I was reading a blog post earlier and I started at the beginning by pressing 
> vo-a as I always do. it read but it was skipping parts, making clicking 
> sounds and starting in the middle of sentences. is there anything I can do to 
> fix this?
> 
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> Lorie
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