Re: biblical greek on the mac
Well fine. I PERSONALLY don't know where to look. I suppose Apple's developer documentation. Lol hope that helps. And if it doesn't, then email apple and complain to them. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 11, 2015, at 7:13 PM, Janina Sajka wrote: > > Yet you say no one knows where to find documentation? That's pretty ugly > to me. > > But, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. We all know that, no? > > > Devin Prater writes: >> Right. If a simple hacker can do it, any developer can. Its not a walled >> garden if you have the skills to climb over the wall, and IMHO, the flowers >> are beautiful in Apple's garden, and fake in Google's. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Aug 11, 2015, at 9:31 AM, Janina Sajka wrote: >>> >>> Devin Prater writes: There is no known way to do it. >>> So, we're going round in circles here. >>> >>> Is Apple a walled garden that keeps others out? No, say some, because >>> Acapela has ported their voices, and someone has hacked Eloquence to >>> work. >>> >>> But, no one knows where to learn how to do it? That's a "walled garden" >>> in my book. It's one of the less attractive things about Apple, imo. >>> >>> Janina >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 10, 2015, at 2:14 PM, Janina Sajka wrote: > > OK, so where is the process documented? If I wanted to compile espeak > for VoiceOver, where do I go to find the steps to take? > > Janina > > Anders Holmberg writes: >> Hi! >> The thing is that espeak does not work with voiceover from what i know. >> No one seems willing to compile it for voiceover either. >> /A >>> 7 aug. 2015 kl. 22:45 skrev Janina Sajka : >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm just now catching up on this list and note no one suggested trying >>> espeak for osx. Yes, it's a formant voice. However, it does provide a >>> Classical Greek varient, and the maintainer is very supportive of >>> specific suggestions for improving pronunciation. >>> >>> http://espeak.sf.net >>> >>> I have wondered, however, whether Classical Greek is what we really need >>> for Biblical study, as the New Testament is in Koine Greek. Here again, >>> I suspect Jonathan, the maintainer of espeak, would be supportive of >>> building and providing a Koine voice, if some expert might give him >>> specifics on what needs to be different. I would imagine Koine is >>> relatively close to Classical Greek, as the time difference is only a >>> few centuries. >>> >>> hth >>> >>> Janina >>> >>> Brian Howerton writes: Hello all, I am trying to teach myself new testament greek. I was wondering if anyone has tested learning a biblical language on the mac with voiceover. Just was curious to see how that might work with voiceover as far as pronunciations and things like that. Thanks, Brian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Janina Sajka,Phone:+1.443.300.2200 >>> sip:jan...@asterisk.rednote.net >>> Email:jan...@rednote.net >>> >>> Linux Foundation Fellow >>> Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:http://a11y.org >>> >>> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) >>> Chair,Protocols & Formatshttp://www.w3.org/wai/pf >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > > Janina Sajka,Phone:+1.443.300.2200 >
Re: biblical greek on the mac
Yet you say no one knows where to find documentation? That's pretty ugly to me. But, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. We all know that, no? Devin Prater writes: > Right. If a simple hacker can do it, any developer can. Its not a walled > garden if you have the skills to climb over the wall, and IMHO, the flowers > are beautiful in Apple's garden, and fake in Google's. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Aug 11, 2015, at 9:31 AM, Janina Sajka wrote: > > > > Devin Prater writes: > >> There is no known way to do it. > >> > > So, we're going round in circles here. > > > > Is Apple a walled garden that keeps others out? No, say some, because > > Acapela has ported their voices, and someone has hacked Eloquence to > > work. > > > > But, no one knows where to learn how to do it? That's a "walled garden" > > in my book. It's one of the less attractive things about Apple, imo. > > > > Janina > > > > > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >>> On Aug 10, 2015, at 2:14 PM, Janina Sajka wrote: > >>> > >>> OK, so where is the process documented? If I wanted to compile espeak > >>> for VoiceOver, where do I go to find the steps to take? > >>> > >>> Janina > >>> > >>> Anders Holmberg writes: > Hi! > The thing is that espeak does not work with voiceover from what i know. > No one seems willing to compile it for voiceover either. > /A > > 7 aug. 2015 kl. 22:45 skrev Janina Sajka : > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm just now catching up on this list and note no one suggested trying > > espeak for osx. Yes, it's a formant voice. However, it does provide a > > Classical Greek varient, and the maintainer is very supportive of > > specific suggestions for improving pronunciation. > > > > http://espeak.sf.net > > > > I have wondered, however, whether Classical Greek is what we really need > > for Biblical study, as the New Testament is in Koine Greek. Here again, > > I suspect Jonathan, the maintainer of espeak, would be supportive of > > building and providing a Koine voice, if some expert might give him > > specifics on what needs to be different. I would imagine Koine is > > relatively close to Classical Greek, as the time difference is only a > > few centuries. > > > > hth > > > > Janina > > > > Brian Howerton writes: > >> Hello all, > >> I am trying to teach myself new testament greek. I was wondering if > >> anyone has tested learning a biblical language on the mac with > >> voiceover. Just was curious to see how that might work with voiceover > >> as far as pronunciations and things like that. Thanks, > >> Brian > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > >> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > -- > > > > Janina Sajka,Phone:+1.443.300.2200 > > sip:jan...@asterisk.rednote.net > > Email:jan...@rednote.net > > > > Linux Foundation Fellow > > Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:http://a11y.org > > > > The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) > > Chair,Protocols & Formatshttp://www.w3.org/wai/pf > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > > an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> > >>> Janina Sajka,Phone:+1.443.300.2200 > >>> sip:jan...@asterisk.rednote.net > >>> Email:jan...@rednote.net > >>> > >>> Linux Foundation Fellow > >>> Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:http://a11y.org > >>> > >>> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) > >>>
Re: biblical greek on the mac
Right. If a simple hacker can do it, any developer can. Its not a walled garden if you have the skills to climb over the wall, and IMHO, the flowers are beautiful in Apple's garden, and fake in Google's. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 11, 2015, at 9:31 AM, Janina Sajka wrote: > > Devin Prater writes: >> There is no known way to do it. >> > So, we're going round in circles here. > > Is Apple a walled garden that keeps others out? No, say some, because > Acapela has ported their voices, and someone has hacked Eloquence to > work. > > But, no one knows where to learn how to do it? That's a "walled garden" > in my book. It's one of the less attractive things about Apple, imo. > > Janina > > >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Aug 10, 2015, at 2:14 PM, Janina Sajka wrote: >>> >>> OK, so where is the process documented? If I wanted to compile espeak >>> for VoiceOver, where do I go to find the steps to take? >>> >>> Janina >>> >>> Anders Holmberg writes: Hi! The thing is that espeak does not work with voiceover from what i know. No one seems willing to compile it for voiceover either. /A > 7 aug. 2015 kl. 22:45 skrev Janina Sajka : > > Hi, > > I'm just now catching up on this list and note no one suggested trying > espeak for osx. Yes, it's a formant voice. However, it does provide a > Classical Greek varient, and the maintainer is very supportive of > specific suggestions for improving pronunciation. > > http://espeak.sf.net > > I have wondered, however, whether Classical Greek is what we really need > for Biblical study, as the New Testament is in Koine Greek. Here again, > I suspect Jonathan, the maintainer of espeak, would be supportive of > building and providing a Koine voice, if some expert might give him > specifics on what needs to be different. I would imagine Koine is > relatively close to Classical Greek, as the time difference is only a > few centuries. > > hth > > Janina > > Brian Howerton writes: >> Hello all, >> I am trying to teach myself new testament greek. I was wondering if >> anyone has tested learning a biblical language on the mac with >> voiceover. Just was curious to see how that might work with voiceover >> as far as pronunciations and things like that. Thanks, >> Brian >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > > Janina Sajka,Phone:+1.443.300.2200 > sip:jan...@asterisk.rednote.net > Email:jan...@rednote.net > > Linux Foundation Fellow > Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:http://a11y.org > > The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) > Chair,Protocols & Formatshttp://www.w3.org/wai/pf > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Janina Sajka,Phone:+1.443.300.2200 >>> sip:jan...@asterisk.rednote.net >>> Email:jan...@rednote.net >>> >>> Linux Foundation Fellow >>> Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:http://a11y.org >>> >>> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) >>> Chair,Protocols & Formatshttp://www.w3.org/wai/pf >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this
Re: biblical greek on the mac
Devin Prater writes: > There is no known way to do it. > So, we're going round in circles here. Is Apple a walled garden that keeps others out? No, say some, because Acapela has ported their voices, and someone has hacked Eloquence to work. But, no one knows where to learn how to do it? That's a "walled garden" in my book. It's one of the less attractive things about Apple, imo. Janina > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Aug 10, 2015, at 2:14 PM, Janina Sajka wrote: > > > > OK, so where is the process documented? If I wanted to compile espeak > > for VoiceOver, where do I go to find the steps to take? > > > > Janina > > > > Anders Holmberg writes: > >> Hi! > >> The thing is that espeak does not work with voiceover from what i know. > >> No one seems willing to compile it for voiceover either. > >> /A > >>> 7 aug. 2015 kl. 22:45 skrev Janina Sajka : > >>> > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> I'm just now catching up on this list and note no one suggested trying > >>> espeak for osx. Yes, it's a formant voice. However, it does provide a > >>> Classical Greek varient, and the maintainer is very supportive of > >>> specific suggestions for improving pronunciation. > >>> > >>> http://espeak.sf.net > >>> > >>> I have wondered, however, whether Classical Greek is what we really need > >>> for Biblical study, as the New Testament is in Koine Greek. Here again, > >>> I suspect Jonathan, the maintainer of espeak, would be supportive of > >>> building and providing a Koine voice, if some expert might give him > >>> specifics on what needs to be different. I would imagine Koine is > >>> relatively close to Classical Greek, as the time difference is only a > >>> few centuries. > >>> > >>> hth > >>> > >>> Janina > >>> > >>> Brian Howerton writes: > Hello all, > I am trying to teach myself new testament greek. I was wondering if > anyone has tested learning a biblical language on the mac with > voiceover. Just was curious to see how that might work with voiceover > as far as pronunciations and things like that. Thanks, > Brian > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> > >>> Janina Sajka,Phone:+1.443.300.2200 > >>>sip:jan...@asterisk.rednote.net > >>>Email:jan...@rednote.net > >>> > >>> Linux Foundation Fellow > >>> Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:http://a11y.org > >>> > >>> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) > >>> Chair,Protocols & Formatshttp://www.w3.org/wai/pf > >>> > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >>> "MacVisionaries" group. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "MacVisionaries" group. > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > -- > > > > Janina Sajka,Phone:+1.443.300.2200 > >sip:jan...@asterisk.rednote.net > >Email:jan...@rednote.net > > > > Linux Foundation Fellow > > Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:http://a11y.org > > > > The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) > > Chair,Protocols & Formatshttp://www.w3.org/wai/pf > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "MacVisionaries" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
Re: biblical greek on the mac
Hi! I don’t know but i think there’s a developper site somewhere. /A > 10 aug. 2015 kl. 21:14 skrev Janina Sajka : > > OK, so where is the process documented? If I wanted to compile espeak > for VoiceOver, where do I go to find the steps to take? > > Janina > > Anders Holmberg writes: >> Hi! >> The thing is that espeak does not work with voiceover from what i know. >> No one seems willing to compile it for voiceover either. >> /A >>> 7 aug. 2015 kl. 22:45 skrev Janina Sajka : >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm just now catching up on this list and note no one suggested trying >>> espeak for osx. Yes, it's a formant voice. However, it does provide a >>> Classical Greek varient, and the maintainer is very supportive of >>> specific suggestions for improving pronunciation. >>> >>> http://espeak.sf.net >>> >>> I have wondered, however, whether Classical Greek is what we really need >>> for Biblical study, as the New Testament is in Koine Greek. Here again, >>> I suspect Jonathan, the maintainer of espeak, would be supportive of >>> building and providing a Koine voice, if some expert might give him >>> specifics on what needs to be different. I would imagine Koine is >>> relatively close to Classical Greek, as the time difference is only a >>> few centuries. >>> >>> hth >>> >>> Janina >>> >>> Brian Howerton writes: Hello all, I am trying to teach myself new testament greek. I was wondering if anyone has tested learning a biblical language on the mac with voiceover. Just was curious to see how that might work with voiceover as far as pronunciations and things like that. Thanks, Brian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 >>> sip:jan...@asterisk.rednote.net >>> Email: jan...@rednote.net >>> >>> Linux Foundation Fellow >>> Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org >>> >>> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) >>> Chair, Protocols & Formats http://www.w3.org/wai/pf >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 > sip:jan...@asterisk.rednote.net > Email: jan...@rednote.net > > Linux Foundation Fellow > Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org > > The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) > Chair,Protocols & Formats http://www.w3.org/wai/pf > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: biblical greek on the mac
There is no known way to do it. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 10, 2015, at 2:14 PM, Janina Sajka wrote: > > OK, so where is the process documented? If I wanted to compile espeak > for VoiceOver, where do I go to find the steps to take? > > Janina > > Anders Holmberg writes: >> Hi! >> The thing is that espeak does not work with voiceover from what i know. >> No one seems willing to compile it for voiceover either. >> /A >>> 7 aug. 2015 kl. 22:45 skrev Janina Sajka : >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm just now catching up on this list and note no one suggested trying >>> espeak for osx. Yes, it's a formant voice. However, it does provide a >>> Classical Greek varient, and the maintainer is very supportive of >>> specific suggestions for improving pronunciation. >>> >>> http://espeak.sf.net >>> >>> I have wondered, however, whether Classical Greek is what we really need >>> for Biblical study, as the New Testament is in Koine Greek. Here again, >>> I suspect Jonathan, the maintainer of espeak, would be supportive of >>> building and providing a Koine voice, if some expert might give him >>> specifics on what needs to be different. I would imagine Koine is >>> relatively close to Classical Greek, as the time difference is only a >>> few centuries. >>> >>> hth >>> >>> Janina >>> >>> Brian Howerton writes: Hello all, I am trying to teach myself new testament greek. I was wondering if anyone has tested learning a biblical language on the mac with voiceover. Just was curious to see how that might work with voiceover as far as pronunciations and things like that. Thanks, Brian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Janina Sajka,Phone:+1.443.300.2200 >>>sip:jan...@asterisk.rednote.net >>>Email:jan...@rednote.net >>> >>> Linux Foundation Fellow >>> Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:http://a11y.org >>> >>> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) >>> Chair,Protocols & Formatshttp://www.w3.org/wai/pf >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > > Janina Sajka,Phone:+1.443.300.2200 >sip:jan...@asterisk.rednote.net >Email:jan...@rednote.net > > Linux Foundation Fellow > Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:http://a11y.org > > The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) > Chair,Protocols & Formatshttp://www.w3.org/wai/pf > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: biblical greek on the mac
OK, so where is the process documented? If I wanted to compile espeak for VoiceOver, where do I go to find the steps to take? Janina Anders Holmberg writes: > Hi! > The thing is that espeak does not work with voiceover from what i know. > No one seems willing to compile it for voiceover either. > /A > > 7 aug. 2015 kl. 22:45 skrev Janina Sajka : > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm just now catching up on this list and note no one suggested trying > > espeak for osx. Yes, it's a formant voice. However, it does provide a > > Classical Greek varient, and the maintainer is very supportive of > > specific suggestions for improving pronunciation. > > > > http://espeak.sf.net > > > > I have wondered, however, whether Classical Greek is what we really need > > for Biblical study, as the New Testament is in Koine Greek. Here again, > > I suspect Jonathan, the maintainer of espeak, would be supportive of > > building and providing a Koine voice, if some expert might give him > > specifics on what needs to be different. I would imagine Koine is > > relatively close to Classical Greek, as the time difference is only a > > few centuries. > > > > hth > > > > Janina > > > > Brian Howerton writes: > >> Hello all, > >> I am trying to teach myself new testament greek. I was wondering if > >> anyone has tested learning a biblical language on the mac with voiceover. > >> Just was curious to see how that might work with voiceover as far as > >> pronunciations and things like that. Thanks, > >> Brian > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "MacVisionaries" group. > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > -- > > > > Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 > > sip:jan...@asterisk.rednote.net > > Email: jan...@rednote.net > > > > Linux Foundation Fellow > > Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org > > > > The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) > > Chair, Protocols & Formats http://www.w3.org/wai/pf > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "MacVisionaries" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 sip:jan...@asterisk.rednote.net Email: jan...@rednote.net Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Chair, Protocols & Formats http://www.w3.org/wai/pf -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: biblical greek on the mac
Hi! The thing is that espeak does not work with voiceover from what i know. No one seems willing to compile it for voiceover either. /A > 7 aug. 2015 kl. 22:45 skrev Janina Sajka : > > Hi, > > I'm just now catching up on this list and note no one suggested trying > espeak for osx. Yes, it's a formant voice. However, it does provide a > Classical Greek varient, and the maintainer is very supportive of > specific suggestions for improving pronunciation. > > http://espeak.sf.net > > I have wondered, however, whether Classical Greek is what we really need > for Biblical study, as the New Testament is in Koine Greek. Here again, > I suspect Jonathan, the maintainer of espeak, would be supportive of > building and providing a Koine voice, if some expert might give him > specifics on what needs to be different. I would imagine Koine is > relatively close to Classical Greek, as the time difference is only a > few centuries. > > hth > > Janina > > Brian Howerton writes: >> Hello all, >> I am trying to teach myself new testament greek. I was wondering if anyone >> has tested learning a biblical language on the mac with voiceover. Just was >> curious to see how that might work with voiceover as far as pronunciations >> and things like that. Thanks, >> Brian >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 > sip:jan...@asterisk.rednote.net > Email: jan...@rednote.net > > Linux Foundation Fellow > Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org > > The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) > Chair,Protocols & Formats http://www.w3.org/wai/pf > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: biblical greek on the mac
Nope. There's Acapella Infovox, and the hacked Eloquence that works with VO too. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 7, 2015, at 10:12 PM, Janina Sajka wrote: > > Oh dear. That really is too bad. I guess the walled garden can sometimes > be a 5-star luxury prison. > > So, all voices have to go through Apple itself? I guess that's the > implication. > > Janina > > Devin Prater writes: >> The huge, giant, Bible sized problem is, that eSpeak is not supportive of >> voiceover. Sure you could probably run it fine in terminal, but Then you >> could only read text files with it, and possibly convert them to sound >> files. Its really bad when some one can get a closed-source synth like >> Eloquence to work but not a freely open source engine like eSpeak. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Aug 7, 2015, at 3:45 PM, Janina Sajka wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm just now catching up on this list and note no one suggested trying >>> espeak for osx. Yes, it's a formant voice. However, it does provide a >>> Classical Greek varient, and the maintainer is very supportive of >>> specific suggestions for improving pronunciation. >>> >>> http://espeak.sf.net >>> >>> I have wondered, however, whether Classical Greek is what we really need >>> for Biblical study, as the New Testament is in Koine Greek. Here again, >>> I suspect Jonathan, the maintainer of espeak, would be supportive of >>> building and providing a Koine voice, if some expert might give him >>> specifics on what needs to be different. I would imagine Koine is >>> relatively close to Classical Greek, as the time difference is only a >>> few centuries. >>> >>> hth >>> >>> Janina >>> >>> Brian Howerton writes: Hello all, I am trying to teach myself new testament greek. I was wondering if anyone has tested learning a biblical language on the mac with voiceover. Just was curious to see how that might work with voiceover as far as pronunciations and things like that. Thanks, Brian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Janina Sajka,Phone:+1.443.300.2200 >>> sip:jan...@asterisk.rednote.net >>> Email:jan...@rednote.net >>> >>> Linux Foundation Fellow >>> Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:http://a11y.org >>> >>> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) >>> Chair,Protocols & Formatshttp://www.w3.org/wai/pf >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > > Janina Sajka,Phone:+1.443.300.2200 >sip:jan...@asterisk.rednote.net >Email:jan...@rednote.net > > Linux Foundation Fellow > Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:http://a11y.org > > The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) > Chair,Protocols & Formatshttp://www.w3.org/wai/pf > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, vi
Re: biblical greek on the mac
Oh dear. That really is too bad. I guess the walled garden can sometimes be a 5-star luxury prison. So, all voices have to go through Apple itself? I guess that's the implication. Janina Devin Prater writes: > The huge, giant, Bible sized problem is, that eSpeak is not supportive of > voiceover. Sure you could probably run it fine in terminal, but Then you > could only read text files with it, and possibly convert them to sound files. > Its really bad when some one can get a closed-source synth like Eloquence to > work but not a freely open source engine like eSpeak. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Aug 7, 2015, at 3:45 PM, Janina Sajka wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm just now catching up on this list and note no one suggested trying > > espeak for osx. Yes, it's a formant voice. However, it does provide a > > Classical Greek varient, and the maintainer is very supportive of > > specific suggestions for improving pronunciation. > > > > http://espeak.sf.net > > > > I have wondered, however, whether Classical Greek is what we really need > > for Biblical study, as the New Testament is in Koine Greek. Here again, > > I suspect Jonathan, the maintainer of espeak, would be supportive of > > building and providing a Koine voice, if some expert might give him > > specifics on what needs to be different. I would imagine Koine is > > relatively close to Classical Greek, as the time difference is only a > > few centuries. > > > > hth > > > > Janina > > > > Brian Howerton writes: > >> Hello all, > >> I am trying to teach myself new testament greek. I was wondering if > >> anyone has tested learning a biblical language on the mac with voiceover. > >> Just was curious to see how that might work with voiceover as far as > >> pronunciations and things like that. Thanks, > >> Brian > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "MacVisionaries" group. > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > -- > > > > Janina Sajka,Phone:+1.443.300.2200 > >sip:jan...@asterisk.rednote.net > >Email:jan...@rednote.net > > > > Linux Foundation Fellow > > Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:http://a11y.org > > > > The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) > > Chair,Protocols & Formatshttp://www.w3.org/wai/pf > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "MacVisionaries" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 sip:jan...@asterisk.rednote.net Email: jan...@rednote.net Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Chair, Protocols & Formats http://www.w3.org/wai/pf -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: biblical greek on the mac
The huge, giant, Bible sized problem is, that eSpeak is not supportive of voiceover. Sure you could probably run it fine in terminal, but Then you could only read text files with it, and possibly convert them to sound files. Its really bad when some one can get a closed-source synth like Eloquence to work but not a freely open source engine like eSpeak. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 7, 2015, at 3:45 PM, Janina Sajka wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm just now catching up on this list and note no one suggested trying > espeak for osx. Yes, it's a formant voice. However, it does provide a > Classical Greek varient, and the maintainer is very supportive of > specific suggestions for improving pronunciation. > > http://espeak.sf.net > > I have wondered, however, whether Classical Greek is what we really need > for Biblical study, as the New Testament is in Koine Greek. Here again, > I suspect Jonathan, the maintainer of espeak, would be supportive of > building and providing a Koine voice, if some expert might give him > specifics on what needs to be different. I would imagine Koine is > relatively close to Classical Greek, as the time difference is only a > few centuries. > > hth > > Janina > > Brian Howerton writes: >> Hello all, >> I am trying to teach myself new testament greek. I was wondering if anyone >> has tested learning a biblical language on the mac with voiceover. Just was >> curious to see how that might work with voiceover as far as pronunciations >> and things like that. Thanks, >> Brian >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > > Janina Sajka,Phone:+1.443.300.2200 >sip:jan...@asterisk.rednote.net >Email:jan...@rednote.net > > Linux Foundation Fellow > Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:http://a11y.org > > The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) > Chair,Protocols & Formatshttp://www.w3.org/wai/pf > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: biblical greek on the mac
Hi, I'm just now catching up on this list and note no one suggested trying espeak for osx. Yes, it's a formant voice. However, it does provide a Classical Greek varient, and the maintainer is very supportive of specific suggestions for improving pronunciation. http://espeak.sf.net I have wondered, however, whether Classical Greek is what we really need for Biblical study, as the New Testament is in Koine Greek. Here again, I suspect Jonathan, the maintainer of espeak, would be supportive of building and providing a Koine voice, if some expert might give him specifics on what needs to be different. I would imagine Koine is relatively close to Classical Greek, as the time difference is only a few centuries. hth Janina Brian Howerton writes: > Hello all, > I am trying to teach myself new testament greek. I was wondering if anyone > has tested learning a biblical language on the mac with voiceover. Just was > curious to see how that might work with voiceover as far as pronunciations > and things like that. Thanks, > Brian > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 sip:jan...@asterisk.rednote.net Email: jan...@rednote.net Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Chair, Protocols & Formats http://www.w3.org/wai/pf -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: biblical greek on the mac
No, they don’t although it would seem logical. and that’s because classical Greek has different or rather more numerous marks over the letters which Voiceover doesn’t interpret in speech. It just ignores them. > On 16 Jul 2015, at 09:09, Devin Prater wrote: > > Wouldn’t the Greek voices work with classical Greek as well? >> On Jul 16, 2015, at 1:36 AM, Andrew Lamanche wrote: >> >> Hi Brian, >> >> On my mac, I use Greek Braille tables with my refreshable Braille display >> and the table is in grade 1 Braille so I didn't have to learn much in order >> to read. I have very little experience of the Greek grade 2 Braille as i >> have no access to their Braille paper literature. On the mac side, you can >> choose Greek Braille table in Voiceover utility under the Braille tab. >> Incidentally, the Greek table on the mac also works fine for English so I >> don't have to switch Braille tables all the time. I just have the table set >> to Greek and it works for both English and Greek. >> >> Hope things are going to work out for you. >> >> Best wishes >> >> Andrew >>> On 15 Jul 2015, at 20:35, Brian Howerton wrote: >>> >>> No problem Andrew. That definitely helps though. Right now I am digging >>> in to a greek text in braille. I am very overwhelmed by the greek braille >>> code. I wish there was a supplemental greek braille code manual that I >>> could use while trying to learn Greek. Right now, I am struggling trying >>> to understand how the greek braille code works. >>> Brian On Jul 15, 2015, at 3:25 PM, Andrew Lamanche wrote: Hi Brian, I speak modern Greek and there's no problem with that because: 1. AssistiveWare.com has a modern Greek voice Dimitris, which is very good, 2. and Apple provides a modern Greek voice Melina and Nikos. Mac also has a modern Greek keyboard layout as well as ancient Greek keyboard which you can add to your keyboards. You can change both keyboards and voices on the fly. I don't think that ancient / biblical Greek is going to work with these voices because the letters with the diacritic marks that are used are not recognised by Voiceover nor by any other voices mentioned above. But do check it out yourself. you can easily add Apple's Greek voices to the selection of voices on the mac, activate the appropriate keyboard and confirm this. I had no success with it when I got a piece of biblical text from somebody. I'm sorry not to have better news for you. Andrew > On 15 Jul 2015, at 20:11, Brian Howerton wrote: > > Hello all, > I am trying to teach myself new testament greek. I was wondering if > anyone has tested learning a biblical language on the mac with voiceover. > Just was curious to see how that might work with voiceover as far as > pronunciations and things like that. Thanks, > Brian > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this gro
Re: biblical greek on the mac
Hi Brian, If you manage to have the problem solved, would you mind writing me off-list to share how you and Ben have achieved this? I may need Ancient Greek at some point as well. Thanks and good luck Andrew > On 16 Jul 2015, at 15:27, Christopher-Mark Gilland > wrote: > > Brian, > > Ben called last night and left you a voicemail, so hopefully you and him can > hook up. He's quite confident he can help you out. > > Chris. > > - Original Message - From: "Andrew Lamanche" > To: > Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 2:36 AM > Subject: Re: biblical greek on the mac > > > Hi Brian, > > On my mac, I use Greek Braille tables with my refreshable Braille display and > the table is in grade 1 Braille so I didn't have to learn much in order to > read. I have very little experience of the Greek grade 2 Braille as i have > no access to their Braille paper literature. On the mac side, you can choose > Greek Braille table in Voiceover utility under the Braille tab. Incidentally, > the Greek table on the mac also works fine for English so I don't have to > switch Braille tables all the time. I just have the table set to Greek and > it works for both English and Greek. > > Hope things are going to work out for you. > > Best wishes > > Andrew >> On 15 Jul 2015, at 20:35, Brian Howerton wrote: >> >> No problem Andrew. That definitely helps though. Right now I am digging in >> to a greek text in braille. I am very overwhelmed by the greek braille >> code. I wish there was a supplemental greek braille code manual that I >> could use while trying to learn Greek. Right now, I am struggling trying to >> understand how the greek braille code works. >> Brian >>> On Jul 15, 2015, at 3:25 PM, Andrew Lamanche wrote: >>> >>> Hi Brian, >>> >>> I speak modern Greek and there's no problem with that because: >>> 1. AssistiveWare.com has a modern Greek voice Dimitris, which is very good, >>> 2. and Apple provides a modern Greek voice Melina and Nikos. Mac also has >>> a modern Greek keyboard layout as well as ancient Greek keyboard which you >>> can add to your keyboards. >>> >>> You can change both keyboards and voices on the fly. >>> >>> I don't think that ancient / biblical Greek is going to work with these >>> voices because the letters with the diacritic marks that are used are not >>> recognised by Voiceover nor by any other voices mentioned above. But do >>> check it out yourself. you can easily add Apple's Greek voices to the >>> selection of voices on the mac, activate the appropriate keyboard and >>> confirm this. I had no success with it when I got a piece of biblical text >>> from somebody. >>> >>> I'm sorry not to have better news for you. >>> >>> Andrew >>>> On 15 Jul 2015, at 20:11, Brian Howerton wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello all, >>>> I am trying to teach myself new testament greek. I was wondering if >>>> anyone has tested learning a biblical language on the mac with voiceover. >>>> Just was curious to see how that might work with voiceover as far as >>>> pronunciations and things like that. Thanks, >>>> Brian >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >
Re: biblical greek on the mac
Brian, Ben called last night and left you a voicemail, so hopefully you and him can hook up. He's quite confident he can help you out. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Andrew Lamanche" To: Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 2:36 AM Subject: Re: biblical greek on the mac Hi Brian, On my mac, I use Greek Braille tables with my refreshable Braille display and the table is in grade 1 Braille so I didn't have to learn much in order to read. I have very little experience of the Greek grade 2 Braille as i have no access to their Braille paper literature. On the mac side, you can choose Greek Braille table in Voiceover utility under the Braille tab. Incidentally, the Greek table on the mac also works fine for English so I don't have to switch Braille tables all the time. I just have the table set to Greek and it works for both English and Greek. Hope things are going to work out for you. Best wishes Andrew On 15 Jul 2015, at 20:35, Brian Howerton wrote: No problem Andrew. That definitely helps though. Right now I am digging in to a greek text in braille. I am very overwhelmed by the greek braille code. I wish there was a supplemental greek braille code manual that I could use while trying to learn Greek. Right now, I am struggling trying to understand how the greek braille code works. Brian On Jul 15, 2015, at 3:25 PM, Andrew Lamanche wrote: Hi Brian, I speak modern Greek and there's no problem with that because: 1. AssistiveWare.com has a modern Greek voice Dimitris, which is very good, 2. and Apple provides a modern Greek voice Melina and Nikos. Mac also has a modern Greek keyboard layout as well as ancient Greek keyboard which you can add to your keyboards. You can change both keyboards and voices on the fly. I don't think that ancient / biblical Greek is going to work with these voices because the letters with the diacritic marks that are used are not recognised by Voiceover nor by any other voices mentioned above. But do check it out yourself. you can easily add Apple's Greek voices to the selection of voices on the mac, activate the appropriate keyboard and confirm this. I had no success with it when I got a piece of biblical text from somebody. I'm sorry not to have better news for you. Andrew On 15 Jul 2015, at 20:11, Brian Howerton wrote: Hello all, I am trying to teach myself new testament greek. I was wondering if anyone has tested learning a biblical language on the mac with voiceover. Just was curious to see how that might work with voiceover as far as pronunciations and things like that. Thanks, Brian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: biblical greek on the mac
Wouldn’t the Greek voices work with classical Greek as well? > On Jul 16, 2015, at 1:36 AM, Andrew Lamanche wrote: > > Hi Brian, > > On my mac, I use Greek Braille tables with my refreshable Braille display and > the table is in grade 1 Braille so I didn't have to learn much in order to > read. I have very little experience of the Greek grade 2 Braille as i have > no access to their Braille paper literature. On the mac side, you can choose > Greek Braille table in Voiceover utility under the Braille tab. > Incidentally, the Greek table on the mac also works fine for English so I > don't have to switch Braille tables all the time. I just have the table set > to Greek and it works for both English and Greek. > > Hope things are going to work out for you. > > Best wishes > > Andrew >> On 15 Jul 2015, at 20:35, Brian Howerton wrote: >> >> No problem Andrew. That definitely helps though. Right now I am digging in >> to a greek text in braille. I am very overwhelmed by the greek braille >> code. I wish there was a supplemental greek braille code manual that I >> could use while trying to learn Greek. Right now, I am struggling trying to >> understand how the greek braille code works. >> Brian >>> On Jul 15, 2015, at 3:25 PM, Andrew Lamanche wrote: >>> >>> Hi Brian, >>> >>> I speak modern Greek and there's no problem with that because: >>> 1. AssistiveWare.com has a modern Greek voice Dimitris, which is very >>> good, >>> 2. and Apple provides a modern Greek voice Melina and Nikos. Mac also has >>> a modern Greek keyboard layout as well as ancient Greek keyboard which you >>> can add to your keyboards. >>> >>> You can change both keyboards and voices on the fly. >>> >>> I don't think that ancient / biblical Greek is going to work with these >>> voices because the letters with the diacritic marks that are used are not >>> recognised by Voiceover nor by any other voices mentioned above. But do >>> check it out yourself. you can easily add Apple's Greek voices to the >>> selection of voices on the mac, activate the appropriate keyboard and >>> confirm this. I had no success with it when I got a piece of biblical text >>> from somebody. >>> >>> I'm sorry not to have better news for you. >>> >>> Andrew On 15 Jul 2015, at 20:11, Brian Howerton wrote: Hello all, I am trying to teach myself new testament greek. I was wondering if anyone has tested learning a biblical language on the mac with voiceover. Just was curious to see how that might work with voiceover as far as pronunciations and things like that. Thanks, Brian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: biblical greek on the mac
Hi Brian, On my mac, I use Greek Braille tables with my refreshable Braille display and the table is in grade 1 Braille so I didn't have to learn much in order to read. I have very little experience of the Greek grade 2 Braille as i have no access to their Braille paper literature. On the mac side, you can choose Greek Braille table in Voiceover utility under the Braille tab. Incidentally, the Greek table on the mac also works fine for English so I don't have to switch Braille tables all the time. I just have the table set to Greek and it works for both English and Greek. Hope things are going to work out for you. Best wishes Andrew > On 15 Jul 2015, at 20:35, Brian Howerton wrote: > > No problem Andrew. That definitely helps though. Right now I am digging in > to a greek text in braille. I am very overwhelmed by the greek braille code. > I wish there was a supplemental greek braille code manual that I could use > while trying to learn Greek. Right now, I am struggling trying to understand > how the greek braille code works. > Brian >> On Jul 15, 2015, at 3:25 PM, Andrew Lamanche wrote: >> >> Hi Brian, >> >> I speak modern Greek and there's no problem with that because: >> 1. AssistiveWare.com has a modern Greek voice Dimitris, which is very good, >> 2. and Apple provides a modern Greek voice Melina and Nikos. Mac also has a >> modern Greek keyboard layout as well as ancient Greek keyboard which you can >> add to your keyboards. >> >> You can change both keyboards and voices on the fly. >> >> I don't think that ancient / biblical Greek is going to work with these >> voices because the letters with the diacritic marks that are used are not >> recognised by Voiceover nor by any other voices mentioned above. But do >> check it out yourself. you can easily add Apple's Greek voices to the >> selection of voices on the mac, activate the appropriate keyboard and >> confirm this. I had no success with it when I got a piece of biblical text >> from somebody. >> >> I'm sorry not to have better news for you. >> >> Andrew >>> On 15 Jul 2015, at 20:11, Brian Howerton wrote: >>> >>> Hello all, >>> I am trying to teach myself new testament greek. I was wondering if anyone >>> has tested learning a biblical language on the mac with voiceover. Just >>> was curious to see how that might work with voiceover as far as >>> pronunciations and things like that. Thanks, >>> Brian >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: biblical greek on the mac
Brian, I left a message for my friend Ben to call you. He's got your number already, so you should be hearing from him hopefully shortly. I know he can help you tremendously with this. - Original Message - From: "Brian Howerton" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 3:35 PM Subject: Re: biblical greek on the mac No problem Andrew. That definitely helps though. Right now I am digging in to a greek text in braille. I am very overwhelmed by the greek braille code. I wish there was a supplemental greek braille code manual that I could use while trying to learn Greek. Right now, I am struggling trying to understand how the greek braille code works. Brian On Jul 15, 2015, at 3:25 PM, Andrew Lamanche wrote: Hi Brian, I speak modern Greek and there's no problem with that because: 1. AssistiveWare.com has a modern Greek voice Dimitris, which is very good, 2. and Apple provides a modern Greek voice Melina and Nikos. Mac also has a modern Greek keyboard layout as well as ancient Greek keyboard which you can add to your keyboards. You can change both keyboards and voices on the fly. I don't think that ancient / biblical Greek is going to work with these voices because the letters with the diacritic marks that are used are not recognised by Voiceover nor by any other voices mentioned above. But do check it out yourself. you can easily add Apple's Greek voices to the selection of voices on the mac, activate the appropriate keyboard and confirm this. I had no success with it when I got a piece of biblical text from somebody. I'm sorry not to have better news for you. Andrew On 15 Jul 2015, at 20:11, Brian Howerton wrote: Hello all, I am trying to teach myself new testament greek. I was wondering if anyone has tested learning a biblical language on the mac with voiceover. Just was curious to see how that might work with voiceover as far as pronunciations and things like that. Thanks, Brian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: biblical greek on the mac
Yatsu Andrew, kay Ti canaté? Chris shruggs heavily... I, know... You cannot know how badly I want ancient greek access! With me being Eastern Greek Orthodox, it really would help with my studies. Oh well. Para Caló, key efxaistó. Irini tu theú mazi. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Andrew Lamanche" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 3:25 PM Subject: Re: biblical greek on the mac Hi Brian, I speak modern Greek and there's no problem with that because: 1. AssistiveWare.com has a modern Greek voice Dimitris, which is very good, 2. and Apple provides a modern Greek voice Melina and Nikos. Mac also has a modern Greek keyboard layout as well as ancient Greek keyboard which you can add to your keyboards. You can change both keyboards and voices on the fly. I don't think that ancient / biblical Greek is going to work with these voices because the letters with the diacritic marks that are used are not recognised by Voiceover nor by any other voices mentioned above. But do check it out yourself. you can easily add Apple's Greek voices to the selection of voices on the mac, activate the appropriate keyboard and confirm this. I had no success with it when I got a piece of biblical text from somebody. I'm sorry not to have better news for you. Andrew On 15 Jul 2015, at 20:11, Brian Howerton wrote: Hello all, I am trying to teach myself new testament greek. I was wondering if anyone has tested learning a biblical language on the mac with voiceover. Just was curious to see how that might work with voiceover as far as pronunciations and things like that. Thanks, Brian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: biblical greek on the mac
Brian, get ahold of Ben, he does this type stuff all the time, and I know he could help you. He's even got a braille display as well. As you may recall, he's a huge huge huge language guy. His e-mail is: bbloomg...@icloud.com I know he'd be more than happy to help you! I won't publish it here, but do you still has his number? I know he gave it to you at one point. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Brian Howerton" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 3:11 PM Subject: biblical greek on the mac Hello all, I am trying to teach myself new testament greek. I was wondering if anyone has tested learning a biblical language on the mac with voiceover. Just was curious to see how that might work with voiceover as far as pronunciations and things like that. Thanks, Brian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: biblical greek on the mac
No problem Andrew. That definitely helps though. Right now I am digging in to a greek text in braille. I am very overwhelmed by the greek braille code. I wish there was a supplemental greek braille code manual that I could use while trying to learn Greek. Right now, I am struggling trying to understand how the greek braille code works. Brian > On Jul 15, 2015, at 3:25 PM, Andrew Lamanche wrote: > > Hi Brian, > > I speak modern Greek and there's no problem with that because: > 1. AssistiveWare.com has a modern Greek voice Dimitris, which is very good, > 2. and Apple provides a modern Greek voice Melina and Nikos. Mac also has a > modern Greek keyboard layout as well as ancient Greek keyboard which you can > add to your keyboards. > > You can change both keyboards and voices on the fly. > > I don't think that ancient / biblical Greek is going to work with these > voices because the letters with the diacritic marks that are used are not > recognised by Voiceover nor by any other voices mentioned above. But do > check it out yourself. you can easily add Apple's Greek voices to the > selection of voices on the mac, activate the appropriate keyboard and confirm > this. I had no success with it when I got a piece of biblical text from > somebody. > > I'm sorry not to have better news for you. > > Andrew >> On 15 Jul 2015, at 20:11, Brian Howerton wrote: >> >> Hello all, >> I am trying to teach myself new testament greek. I was wondering if anyone >> has tested learning a biblical language on the mac with voiceover. Just was >> curious to see how that might work with voiceover as far as pronunciations >> and things like that. Thanks, >> Brian >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: biblical greek on the mac
Hi Brian, I speak modern Greek and there's no problem with that because: 1. AssistiveWare.com has a modern Greek voice Dimitris, which is very good, 2. and Apple provides a modern Greek voice Melina and Nikos. Mac also has a modern Greek keyboard layout as well as ancient Greek keyboard which you can add to your keyboards. You can change both keyboards and voices on the fly. I don't think that ancient / biblical Greek is going to work with these voices because the letters with the diacritic marks that are used are not recognised by Voiceover nor by any other voices mentioned above. But do check it out yourself. you can easily add Apple's Greek voices to the selection of voices on the mac, activate the appropriate keyboard and confirm this. I had no success with it when I got a piece of biblical text from somebody. I'm sorry not to have better news for you. Andrew > On 15 Jul 2015, at 20:11, Brian Howerton wrote: > > Hello all, > I am trying to teach myself new testament greek. I was wondering if anyone > has tested learning a biblical language on the mac with voiceover. Just was > curious to see how that might work with voiceover as far as pronunciations > and things like that. Thanks, > Brian > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
biblical greek on the mac
Hello all, I am trying to teach myself new testament greek. I was wondering if anyone has tested learning a biblical language on the mac with voiceover. Just was curious to see how that might work with voiceover as far as pronunciations and things like that. Thanks, Brian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
