RE: The Life, Death, and Legacy of iPhone Jailbreaking

2017-11-26 Thread Simon Fogarty
Thanks Mark,

This is really good reading,

 That Italian kid sounds pretty bloody smart,
Someone should be offering him a job soon.

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Subject: The Life, Death, and Legacy of iPhone Jailbreaking

The Life, Death, and Legacy of iPhone Jailbreaking
 
This article includes both original reporting from Motherboard and reporting 
from The One Device: The Secret History of the iPhone. 

The window shades are halfway down, leaving the bedroom dim. It's a grim day in 
Bassano del Grappa, a town in northeastern Italy that's mostly famous for its 
main import, the liquor of the same name: Grappa. I'm sitting on a twin bed-the 
only place I could sit. To my left, there's a bookshelf with a stack of Mickey 
Mouse comics, a staple in the childhood bedroom of every Italian kid. In front 
of me, sitting in a faux racing car chair, there's Luca Todesco, a 19-year-old 
who might be the best iPhone hacker on the planet.

I hand him my brand new, up-to-date iPhone 7. 
"Can you jailbreak it?" I ask. 

Jailbreaking is the art of hacking into Apple's ultra-secure iOS operating 
system and unlocking it-and thus allowing users to customize the phone, and 
write or install any software unimpeded by Apple's restrictions. At the time I 
met with Todesco, in December 2016, there was no known jailbreak-no public 
knowledge of this hack-for the latest iOS version that was installed on my 
iPhone (iOS 10.2). 
The world's first jailbreaking step-by-step procedure, discovered in 2007, was 
posted online for all to see. Subsequent jailbreaks were used by millions of 
people. At one point, there was even a website-called jailbreakme.com-that was 
free for all to use and jailbroke your phone simply by visiting it. 
Todesco's jailbreak, however, is only available within the confines of his 
bedroom inside his parents house.
 
Luca Todesco jailbreaks an iPhone in his bedroom in Bassano del Grappa, Italy, 
in December of 2016. Photo: Lorenzo Franceschi-Bicchierai/Motherboard

Todesco, who is now 20 and is known by his hacker alias "qwertyoruiop,"
looks nonplussed. He grabs my phone and reaches for a cable on his desk, next 
to a collection of two dozen iPods and iPhones, all neatly resting next to each 
other as if on display. Todesco plugs in the phone, types a couple of commands 
into his Mac computer, then presses enter. My iPhone's screen turns off and on, 
before a white screen comes up: 
"Doing it . Patching . Jailbroken," the screen reads, one after the other. 
"Ha!" Todesco says, smiling. 
The wall of Apple's garden has been cracked. The phone is jailbroken. 
 
The author's iPhone 7 after being jailbroken by Luca Todesco. Photo: Lorenzo 
Franceschi-Bicchierai/Motherboard

If it were the late 2000s, Todesco would probably post how he did that online, 
and would release his latest jailbreaking technique to the public.
It'd then be available to all iPhone users, giving anyone a chance to unlock 
the phone and install apps not approved by Apple, or tweak the otherwise 
locked-in look, theme, and design of the phone's home screen. 

To jailbreak an iPhone means exploiting one or more bug to disable a security 
mechanism called code-signing enforcement. This allows the hacker to run code 
that's not signed and approved by Apple. By doing that, the hacker opens up the 
possibility to install apps not approved by Apple and make changes and tweaks 
to the operating system. 

Beginning shortly after the first iPhone was launched, and picking up steam in 
2008, jailbreaking was a full-blown cultural and economic phenomenon.
Hacking crews known by names such as the iPhone Dev Team, Chronic Dev, and 
evad3rs were some of the best iPhone hackers of their generation.They made both 
sport and crusade of breaking into Apple's ascendant phone and opening the 
system up to rogue developers. A brilliant, iconoclastic software engineer 
named Jay Freeman gave venue to the hackers and developers by building Cydia, a 
sort of alternative App Store. At its height, Cydia, which predated the actual 
App Store, was a business pulling in millions of dollars in revenue, and 
offered users a way to experience the iPhone as a truly free and open computer. 

Things, however, have changed. The jailbreaking community is fractured, with 
many of its former members having joined private security firms or Apple 
itself. The few people still doing it privately are able to hold out for big 
payouts for finding iPhone vulnerabilities. And users themselves have stopped 
demanding jailbreaks, because Apple simply took jailbreakers' best ideas and 
implemented them into iOS.
 
When the iPhone 7 was released on September 16, 2016, Todesco found a way to 
jailbreak the new version of iOS within a few hours of getting his phone in the 

The Life, Death, and Legacy of iPhone Jailbreaking

2017-11-25 Thread M. Taylor
The Life, Death, and Legacy of iPhone Jailbreaking
 
This article includes both original reporting from Motherboard and reporting
from The One Device: The Secret History of the iPhone. 

The window shades are halfway down, leaving the bedroom dim. It's a grim day
in Bassano del Grappa, a town in northeastern Italy that's mostly famous for
its main import, the liquor of the same name: Grappa. I'm sitting on a twin
bed-the only place I could sit. To my left, there's a bookshelf with a stack
of Mickey Mouse comics, a staple in the childhood bedroom of every Italian
kid. In front of me, sitting in a faux racing car chair, there's Luca
Todesco, a 19-year-old who might be the best iPhone hacker on the planet.

I hand him my brand new, up-to-date iPhone 7. 
"Can you jailbreak it?" I ask. 

Jailbreaking is the art of hacking into Apple's ultra-secure iOS operating
system and unlocking it-and thus allowing users to customize the phone, and
write or install any software unimpeded by Apple's restrictions. At the time
I met with Todesco, in December 2016, there was no known jailbreak-no public
knowledge of this hack-for the latest iOS version that was installed on my
iPhone (iOS 10.2). 
The world's first jailbreaking step-by-step procedure, discovered in 2007,
was posted online for all to see. Subsequent jailbreaks were used by
millions of people. At one point, there was even a website-called
jailbreakme.com-that was free for all to use and jailbroke your phone simply
by visiting it. 
Todesco's jailbreak, however, is only available within the confines of his
bedroom inside his parents house.
 
Luca Todesco jailbreaks an iPhone in his bedroom in Bassano del Grappa,
Italy, in December of 2016. Photo: Lorenzo Franceschi-Bicchierai/Motherboard

Todesco, who is now 20 and is known by his hacker alias "qwertyoruiop,"
looks nonplussed. He grabs my phone and reaches for a cable on his desk,
next to a collection of two dozen iPods and iPhones, all neatly resting next
to each other as if on display. Todesco plugs in the phone, types a couple
of commands into his Mac computer, then presses enter. My iPhone's screen
turns off and on, before a white screen comes up: 
"Doing it . Patching . Jailbroken," the screen reads, one after the other. 
"Ha!" Todesco says, smiling. 
The wall of Apple's garden has been cracked. The phone is jailbroken. 
 
The author's iPhone 7 after being jailbroken by Luca Todesco. Photo: Lorenzo
Franceschi-Bicchierai/Motherboard

If it were the late 2000s, Todesco would probably post how he did that
online, and would release his latest jailbreaking technique to the public.
It'd then be available to all iPhone users, giving anyone a chance to unlock
the phone and install apps not approved by Apple, or tweak the otherwise
locked-in look, theme, and design of the phone's home screen. 

To jailbreak an iPhone means exploiting one or more bug to disable a
security mechanism called code-signing enforcement. This allows the hacker
to run code that's not signed and approved by Apple. By doing that, the
hacker opens up the possibility to install apps not approved by Apple and
make changes and tweaks to the operating system. 

Beginning shortly after the first iPhone was launched, and picking up steam
in 2008, jailbreaking was a full-blown cultural and economic phenomenon.
Hacking crews known by names such as the iPhone Dev Team, Chronic Dev, and
evad3rs were some of the best iPhone hackers of their generation.They made
both sport and crusade of breaking into Apple's ascendant phone and opening
the system up to rogue developers. A brilliant, iconoclastic software
engineer named Jay Freeman gave venue to the hackers and developers by
building Cydia, a sort of alternative App Store. At its height, Cydia, which
predated the actual App Store, was a business pulling in millions of dollars
in revenue, and offered users a way to experience the iPhone as a truly free
and open computer. 

Things, however, have changed. The jailbreaking community is fractured, with
many of its former members having joined private security firms or Apple
itself. The few people still doing it privately are able to hold out for big
payouts for finding iPhone vulnerabilities. And users themselves have
stopped demanding jailbreaks, because Apple simply took jailbreakers' best
ideas and implemented them into iOS.
 
When the iPhone 7 was released on September 16, 2016, Todesco found a way to
jailbreak the new version of iOS within a few hours of getting his phone in
the mail. He showed off his feat on YouTube, and told Motherboard he was
able to do it so quickly because most of the bugs and exploits he needed for
the jailbreak he had already found and developed for previous versions of
iOS. 

Finding these bugs isn't easy. iOS is one of the-if not the-most secure and
tough to hack operating system in the world. The code that underlies it is
mostly secret. It's hard to figure out how anything works in iOS, let 

jailbreaking iPhone 4s anybody...

2014-03-16 Thread Cameron Strife
Hi. Sorry if this is OT... I'm trying to help a friend who is not tech
savvy jailbreak her iPhone 4s because even though it's not under
contract anymore, her new cell carrier won't request an unlock code
from Apple.

Has anybody done this?

Google gives me a lot of ads, useless youtube videos, and web sites
that are either scams or want cash...

I am aware of security issues and worms etc around, but, there appear
to be safe versions out there yes? I have had no need to do this with
any of my iOS devices so need some guidance if possible...

Feel free to reply to me off list.

Thanks,

Cameron.

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Re: jailbreaking iPhone 4s anybody...

2014-03-16 Thread David Chittenden
Jailbreaking will not unlock the phone.

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 On 17 Mar 2014, at 14:10, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com wrote:
 
 Hi. Sorry if this is OT... I'm trying to help a friend who is not tech
 savvy jailbreak her iPhone 4s because even though it's not under
 contract anymore, her new cell carrier won't request an unlock code
 from Apple.
 
 Has anybody done this?
 
 Google gives me a lot of ads, useless youtube videos, and web sites
 that are either scams or want cash...
 
 I am aware of security issues and worms etc around, but, there appear
 to be safe versions out there yes? I have had no need to do this with
 any of my iOS devices so need some guidance if possible...
 
 Feel free to reply to me off list.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Cameron.
 
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Re: Jailbreaking?

2013-02-06 Thread Scott Berry
Cdia is like the Itunes store and this is where you find all the apps 
after you have jail broken.  I suggest just looking around I have just 
been adding thing randomly as I think they might be something I need or 
could use.



On 2/5/13 19:54, Jessica Moss wrote:
Ok, I've thought about doing this, but just out of curiosity, where 
would you find other 3rd-party apps, and aside from the ones you just 
mentioned, what others would some of you recommend?

On Feb 5, 2013, at 11:59 AM, Emilio wrote:


Hello Rich and others,


Jailbreaking while not a welcomed option for everyone does have benefits.

Like many users on this list have already shared, jailbreaking offers 
the user customization capabilities such as installing programs that 
are not available through the App Store.


Personally, I find that “Poof,” gives me the option to hide 
unnecessary stock apps, or apps that otherwise I feel clutter my 
springboard. While hiding selected apps, the functionality thereof is 
not lost. For instance, if I choose to hide the “contacts” app or the 
“notes” app, I can still access these apps via spotlight.


“Folder close,” is another jailbreak tweak that does exactly what the 
title suggests. Upon launching an app from a folder I have created, 
the folder automatically closes and is not left open, which is 
opposite to what the standard practice is without jailbreaking.



Hope this has been helpful.


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Re: Jailbreaking?

2013-02-06 Thread Richard Ring
I have one final question. If you jail break, does this mean you can no longer 
purchase apps from the app store?

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On Feb 6, 2013, at 5:43 AM, Scott Berry sb356...@gmail.com wrote:

 Cdia is like the Itunes store and this is where you find all the apps after 
 you have jail broken.  I suggest just looking around I have just been adding 
 thing randomly as I think they might be something I need or could use.
 
 
 On 2/5/13 19:54, Jessica Moss wrote:
 Ok, I've thought about doing this, but just out of curiosity, where would 
 you find other 3rd-party apps, and aside from the ones you just mentioned, 
 what others would some of you recommend?
 On Feb 5, 2013, at 11:59 AM, Emilio wrote:
 
 Hello Rich and others,
 
 
 Jailbreaking while not a welcomed option for everyone does have benefits.
 
 Like many users on this list have already shared, jailbreaking offers the 
 user customization capabilities such as installing programs that are not 
 available through the App Store.
 
 Personally, I find that “Poof,” gives me the option to hide unnecessary 
 stock apps, or apps that otherwise I feel clutter my springboard. While 
 hiding selected apps, the functionality thereof is not lost. For instance, 
 if I choose to hide the “contacts” app or the “notes” app, I can still 
 access these apps via spotlight.
 
 “Folder close,” is another jailbreak tweak that does exactly what the title 
 suggests. Upon launching an app from a folder I have created, the folder 
 automatically closes and is not left open, which is opposite to what the 
 standard practice is without jailbreaking.
 
 
 Hope this has been helpful.
 
 
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RE: Jailbreaking?

2013-02-06 Thread Kliphton
No, app store for apple is not effected.

 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ring
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 6:30 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Jailbreaking?

 

I have one final question. If you jail break, does this mean you can no
longer purchase apps from the app store?


You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of
Fielding

 Sent from my Mac Book Pro 

richr...@gmail.com

 

On Feb 6, 2013, at 5:43 AM, Scott Berry sb356...@gmail.com wrote:





Cdia is like the Itunes store and this is where you find all the apps after
you have jail broken.  I suggest just looking around I have just been adding
thing randomly as I think they might be something I need or could use.


On 2/5/13 19:54, Jessica Moss wrote:



Ok, I've thought about doing this, but just out of curiosity, where would
you find other 3rd-party apps, and aside from the ones you just mentioned,
what others would some of you recommend?
On Feb 5, 2013, at 11:59 AM, Emilio wrote:




Hello Rich and others,


Jailbreaking while not a welcomed option for everyone does have benefits.

Like many users on this list have already shared, jailbreaking offers the
user customization capabilities such as installing programs that are not
available through the App Store.

Personally, I find that Poof, gives me the option to hide unnecessary
stock apps, or apps that otherwise I feel clutter my springboard. While
hiding selected apps, the functionality thereof is not lost. For instance,
if I choose to hide the contacts app or the notes app, I can still
access these apps via spotlight.

Folder close, is another jailbreak tweak that does exactly what the title
suggests. Upon launching an app from a folder I have created, the folder
automatically closes and is not left open, which is opposite to what the
standard practice is without jailbreaking.


Hope this has been helpful.


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Re: Jailbreaking?

2013-02-06 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi, The app Springtomize is very good. It allowed me to get rid of about 
15 separate jailbreak apps and tweaks because of how much it does. The 
app is $3.00, but is well worth it. It allows me to customize how many 
rows of icons and how many icons per row to have on the home screen. It 
allows me to customize how many icons on the dock and the app switcher. 
It allows me to have more than 12 or 16 apps in folders. It allows me to 
customize the slide to unlock text on the lock screen. I have it saying, 
Hello Raul. It allows me to show seconds on the clock if I want. That's 
just a few of the things it does. That tweak, along with several others 
from the following web site are highly recommended.


http://www.iphonehacks.com/2013/02/best-jailbreak-apps-tweaks-iphone-2013.html


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On 2/5/2013 10:59 AM, Emilio wrote:

Hello Rich and others,


Jailbreaking while not a welcomed option for everyone does have benefits.

Like many users on this list have already shared, jailbreaking offers
the user customization capabilities such as installing programs that are
not available through the App Store.

Personally, I find that “Poof,” gives me the option to hide unnecessary
stock apps, or apps that otherwise I feel clutter my springboard. While
hiding selected apps, the functionality thereof is not lost. For
instance, if I choose to hide the “contacts” app or the “notes” app, I
can still access these apps via spotlight.

“Folder close,” is another jailbreak tweak that does exactly what the
title suggests. Upon launching an app from a folder I have created, the
folder automatically closes and is not left open, which is opposite to
what the standard practice is without jailbreaking.


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Re: Jailbreaking?

2013-02-06 Thread Scott Berry
Does anyone know where I could look at a nice app list for Ipads?  I 
really want to put Siri on but like Spire hasn't been updated to IOS 6.1 
yet.




On 2/6/13 9:05, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
Hi, The app Springtomize is very good. It allowed me to get rid of 
about 15 separate jailbreak apps and tweaks because of how much it 
does. The app is $3.00, but is well worth it. It allows me to 
customize how many rows of icons and how many icons per row to have on 
the home screen. It allows me to customize how many icons on the dock 
and the app switcher. It allows me to have more than 12 or 16 apps in 
folders. It allows me to customize the slide to unlock text on the 
lock screen. I have it saying, Hello Raul. It allows me to show 
seconds on the clock if I want. That's just a few of the things it 
does. That tweak, along with several others from the following web 
site are highly recommended.


http://www.iphonehacks.com/2013/02/best-jailbreak-apps-tweaks-iphone-2013.html 




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On 2/5/2013 10:59 AM, Emilio wrote:

Hello Rich and others,


Jailbreaking while not a welcomed option for everyone does have 
benefits.


Like many users on this list have already shared, jailbreaking offers
the user customization capabilities such as installing programs that are
not available through the App Store.

Personally, I find that “Poof,” gives me the option to hide unnecessary
stock apps, or apps that otherwise I feel clutter my springboard. While
hiding selected apps, the functionality thereof is not lost. For
instance, if I choose to hide the “contacts” app or the “notes” app, I
can still access these apps via spotlight.

“Folder close,” is another jailbreak tweak that does exactly what the
title suggests. Upon launching an app from a folder I have created, the
folder automatically closes and is not left open, which is opposite to
what the standard practice is without jailbreaking.


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Re: Jailbreaking?

2013-02-06 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
You can still purchase paid or get free apps from the app store. This is 
not affected at all.


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On 2/6/2013 6:30 AM, Richard Ring wrote:

I have one final question. If you jail break, does this mean you can no
longer purchase apps from the app store?

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On Feb 6, 2013, at 5:43 AM, Scott Berry sb356...@gmail.com
mailto:sb356...@gmail.com wrote:


Cdia is like the Itunes store and this is where you find all the apps
after you have jail broken.  I suggest just looking around I have just
been adding thing randomly as I think they might be something I need
or could use.


On 2/5/13 19:54, Jessica Moss wrote:

Ok, I've thought about doing this, but just out of curiosity, where
would you find other 3rd-party apps, and aside from the ones you just
mentioned, what others would some of you recommend?
On Feb 5, 2013, at 11:59 AM, Emilio wrote:


Hello Rich and others,


Jailbreaking while not a welcomed option for everyone does have
benefits.

Like many users on this list have already shared, jailbreaking
offers the user customization capabilities such as installing
programs that are not available through the App Store.

Personally, I find that “Poof,” gives me the option to hide
unnecessary stock apps, or apps that otherwise I feel clutter my
springboard. While hiding selected apps, the functionality thereof
is not lost. For instance, if I choose to hide the “contacts” app or
the “notes” app, I can still access these apps via spotlight.

“Folder close,” is another jailbreak tweak that does exactly what
the title suggests. Upon launching an app from a folder I have
created, the folder automatically closes and is not left open, which
is opposite to what the standard practice is without jailbreaking.


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Jailbreaking?

2013-02-05 Thread Richard Ring
Greetings all:
I must plead ignorance here. What would be the advantages and disadvantages I 
would encounter if I were to jail break my iPhone 4S? It is not under any kind 
of warranty, but I still have reservations. Any thoughts on this question would 
be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Jailbreaking?

2013-02-05 Thread Michael Babcock
If you didn't hear my podcast yesterday, you can download it from the link in 
my signature. It is very easy to jailbreak, the process this is most easiest it 
has ever been.
You have access to applications, that you don't get access to on the default 
iOS. For example, I have an application called privacy protection, that 
randomizes my location information whenever an app asked for it. And last, I 
allow that up to receive my real location information.
Additionally, jailbreaking your device allows you to access the city store, 
please pardon the spelling, which provide you access to thousands and 
thousands of Ringtown.
In addition, you have the ability of steaming your device. For example, I found 
a theme yesterday, that made my device look like the android home screen Julian
Granted, it wasn't accessible when it looks like the android home screen. 
In addition, my friend Christopher Gilland advised me that foreclose on the 
iPad, who lost the weather, and stocks application with the iOS six upgrade, 
receive those applications again on the iPad. Understand, I don't have one and 
M unable to verify these claims myself personally.
Disadvantages to be honest with you are only related to if you have a warranty. 
And then there really isn't any disadvantages. Especially now that we have an 
untethered jailbreak, which means you don't have to connect your phone to a 
computer to restart it now
Anyways, I wouldLike it if you had a nice day

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On Feb 5, 2013, at 8:23 AM, Richard Ring richr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Greetings all:
 I must plead ignorance here. What would be the advantages and disadvantages I 
 would encounter if I were to jail break my iPhone 4S? It is not under any 
 kind of warranty, but I still have reservations. Any thoughts on this 
 question would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Re: Jailbreaking?

2013-02-05 Thread Richard Ring
Well, thank you for your response. I appreciate the info. I hope you have a 
tremendous day yourself!

You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding
 Sent from my Mac Book Pro 
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On Feb 5, 2013, at 9:42 AM, Michael Babcock michael.babcoc...@gmail.com wrote:

 If you didn't hear my podcast yesterday, you can download it from the link in 
 my signature. It is very easy to jailbreak, the process this is most easiest 
 it has ever been.
 You have access to applications, that you don't get access to on the default 
 iOS. For example, I have an application called privacy protection, that 
 randomizes my location information whenever an app asked for it. And last, I 
 allow that up to receive my real location information.
 Additionally, jailbreaking your device allows you to access the city store, 
 please pardon the spelling, which provide you access to thousands and 
 thousands of Ringtown.
 In addition, you have the ability of steaming your device. For example, I 
 found a theme yesterday, that made my device look like the android home 
 screen Julian
 Granted, it wasn't accessible when it looks like the android home screen. 
 In addition, my friend Christopher Gilland advised me that foreclose on the 
 iPad, who lost the weather, and stocks application with the iOS six upgrade, 
 receive those applications again on the iPad. Understand, I don't have one 
 and M unable to verify these claims myself personally.
 Disadvantages to be honest with you are only related to if you have a 
 warranty. And then there really isn't any disadvantages. Especially now that 
 we have an untethered jailbreak, which means you don't have to connect your 
 phone to a computer to restart it now
 Anyways, I wouldLike it if you had a nice day
 
 http://empoweringtheblind.com
 Empowering the blind, one step at a time.
 
 
 On Feb 5, 2013, at 8:23 AM, Richard Ring richr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Greetings all:
 I must plead ignorance here. What would be the advantages and disadvantages 
 I would encounter if I were to jail break my iPhone 4S? It is not under any 
 kind of warranty, but I still have reservations. Any thoughts on this 
 question would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Re: Jailbreaking?

2013-02-05 Thread Emilio


Hello Rich and others,


Jailbreaking while not a welcomed option for everyone does have benefits.

Like many users on this list have already shared, jailbreaking offers the 
user customization capabilities such as installing programs that are not 
available through the App Store.

Personally, I find that “Poof,” gives me the option to hide unnecessary 
stock apps, or apps that otherwise I feel clutter my springboard. While 
hiding selected apps, the functionality thereof is not lost. For instance, 
if I choose to hide the “contacts” app or the “notes” app, I can still 
access these apps via spotlight.

“Folder close,” is another jailbreak tweak that does exactly what the title 
suggests. Upon launching an app from a folder I have created, the folder 
automatically closes and is not left open, which is opposite to what the 
standard practice is without jailbreaking.


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Re: Jailbreaking?

2013-02-05 Thread Devin Prater
'Are their any other speech engines available from some apps store or something 
if I jailbreak? That would be the only thing I would look for. For example, 
espeak, or even Festival or Pico.

Sent from my iPod with iCloud

On Feb 5, 2013, at 10:59 AM, Emilio emilio.s.hernan...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello Rich and others,

Jailbreaking while not a welcomed option for everyone does have benefits.
Like many users on this list have already shared, jailbreaking offers the user 
customization capabilities such as installing programs that are not available 
through the App Store.
Personally, I find that “Poof,” gives me the option to hide unnecessary stock 
apps, or apps that otherwise I feel clutter my springboard. While hiding 
selected apps, the functionality thereof is not lost. For instance, if I choose 
to hide the “contacts” app or the “notes” app, I can still access these apps 
via spotlight.
“Folder close,” is another jailbreak tweak that does exactly what the title 
suggests. Upon launching an app from a folder I have created, the folder 
automatically closes and is not left open, which is opposite to what the 
standard practice is without jailbreaking.

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Re: Jailbreaking?

2013-02-05 Thread Jessica Moss
Ok, I've thought about doing this, but just out of curiosity, where would you 
find other 3rd-party apps, and aside from the ones you just mentioned, what 
others would some of you recommend?
On Feb 5, 2013, at 11:59 AM, Emilio wrote:

 Hello Rich and others,
 
 Jailbreaking while not a welcomed option for everyone does have benefits.
 Like many users on this list have already shared, jailbreaking offers the 
 user customization capabilities such as installing programs that are not 
 available through the App Store.
 Personally, I find that “Poof,” gives me the option to hide unnecessary stock 
 apps, or apps that otherwise I feel clutter my springboard. While hiding 
 selected apps, the functionality thereof is not lost. For instance, if I 
 choose to hide the “contacts” app or the “notes” app, I can still access 
 these apps via spotlight.
 “Folder close,” is another jailbreak tweak that does exactly what the title 
 suggests. Upon launching an app from a folder I have created, the folder 
 automatically closes and is not left open, which is opposite to what the 
 standard practice is without jailbreaking.
 
 Hope this has been helpful.
 
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Re: A little bit about iOS 6.1 release date, and the progress with the jailbreaking iOS six end up

2013-01-28 Thread Chris H

That's never going to happen because of hardware limitations.


Christopher Hallsworth

On 28/01/2013 06:35, Devin Prater wrote:

Will they finally be porting siri to the iPod 4th generation?

Sent from my iPod with iCloud

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wrote:

You may not like it, but a lot of us do, thank you.  Was your comment really 
necessary?

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Oh always siri, is that thing supposed to be the holy grail?

Kerri who is not a fan (nor have i) used it.
On 2013-01-27, at 3:12 PM, Scott Davert scottslistm...@gmail.com wrote:


I suspect you will be disappointed in iOS 6.1 in terms of
accessibility enhancements. However, avid users of Siri will most
likely enjoy it from what I've read.

Scott

On 1/27/13, Michael Babcock michael.babcoc...@gmail.com wrote:

I don't know, if you watch the video series, you learned that they
completely redesigned the entire utility. It is no longer the:
Redsn0w
Jailbreak utility because of some of the hardware changes Apple made on the
fours and later. However, one can hope that the process is as easy, if not
easier.
Michael


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On Jan 27, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi Mike,

I hope jailbreaking will still be as simple as:
1. Hook up the phone to the mac or pc using the usb cable.
2. Start the jailbreak util.
3. Hit start and wait, then enjoy.
Do you think it'll still be that easy?

Regards,
Paul.
On Jan 27, 2013, at 8:50 PM, Michael Babcock michael.babcoc...@gmail.com
wrote:


It is, a lot of talking, but it has given me a good grasp of the
understanding of what's going on with iOS. Yes, you understand that the
same way that I do. I am kind of excited, simply to see what changes if
any invoice overcome with iOS 6.1. In addition, I am kind of a geek, and
I like to do weird things. Therefore, the intriguing idea of jailbreaking
my phone in iOS 6.1 is Very exciting, and I can't wait to see what can be
done with it. I will record a brief tutorial as soon as I get information
about how to jailbreak, that explains the jailbreaking process, and
demonstrates how it can potentially be done accessibly.
Here's to hoping that the software is accessible, I am working on writing
a blog posting and going to tweet that blog posting to this group. That
way, we can hope that they consider accessibility towards the beginning
of releasing it. At least, this is my hope.


http://empoweringtheblind.com
Empowering the blind, one step at a time.


On Jan 27, 2013, at 12:41 PM, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi Michael,

So to summarize, ios 6.1 is just around the corner. Second, as soon as
that comes out, then shortly afterwards, it is likely that the
untethered jailbreak for ios 6.1 is ready as well. Did I miss anything
important? It's a lot of talking, isn't it? Smile.

Regards,
Paul.
On Jan 27, 2013, at 5:30 PM, Michael Babcock
michael.babcoc...@gmail.com wrote:


 From what I am learning at the video below, Apple just released iOS
version 6.1, Beta number five. This beta version looks like the version
that Apple releases before they release a public version of their iOS
software. This means, Syria had Akley within the next week, we can hope
to have iOS six point one out.
This video also answers any questions related to jailbreaking iOS six:
http://youtu.be/Huho9Ps-hxY

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A little bit about iOS 6.1 release date, and the progress with the jailbreaking iOS six end up

2013-01-27 Thread Michael Babcock
From what I am learning at the video below, Apple just released iOS version 
6.1, Beta number five. This beta version looks like the version that Apple 
releases before they release a public version of their iOS software. This 
means, Syria had Akley within the next week, we can hope to have iOS six point 
one out.
This video also answers any questions related to jailbreaking iOS six:
http://youtu.be/Huho9Ps-hxY

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Re: A little bit about iOS 6.1 release date, and the progress with the jailbreaking iOS six end up

2013-01-27 Thread Paul Erkens
Hi Michael,

So to summarize, ios 6.1 is just around the corner. Second, as soon as that 
comes out, then shortly afterwards, it is likely that the untethered jailbreak 
for ios 6.1 is ready as well. Did I miss anything important? It's a lot of 
talking, isn't it? Smile.

Regards,
Paul.
On Jan 27, 2013, at 5:30 PM, Michael Babcock michael.babcoc...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 From what I am learning at the video below, Apple just released iOS version 
 6.1, Beta number five. This beta version looks like the version that Apple 
 releases before they release a public version of their iOS software. This 
 means, Syria had Akley within the next week, we can hope to have iOS six 
 point one out.
 This video also answers any questions related to jailbreaking iOS six:
 http://youtu.be/Huho9Ps-hxY
 
 http://empoweringtheblind.com
 Empowering the blind, one step at a time.
 
 
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Re: A little bit about iOS 6.1 release date, and the progress with the jailbreaking iOS six end up

2013-01-27 Thread Michael Babcock
It is, a lot of talking, but it has given me a good grasp of the understanding 
of what's going on with iOS. Yes, you understand that the same way that I do. I 
am kind of excited, simply to see what changes if any invoice overcome with iOS 
6.1. In addition, I am kind of a geek, and I like to do weird things. 
Therefore, the intriguing idea of jailbreaking my phone in iOS 6.1 is Very 
exciting, and I can't wait to see what can be done with it. I will record a 
brief tutorial as soon as I get information about how to jailbreak, that 
explains the jailbreaking process, and demonstrates how it can potentially be 
done accessibly.
Here's to hoping that the software is accessible, I am working on writing a 
blog posting and going to tweet that blog posting to this group. That way, we 
can hope that they consider accessibility towards the beginning of releasing 
it. At least, this is my hope.


http://empoweringtheblind.com
Empowering the blind, one step at a time.


On Jan 27, 2013, at 12:41 PM, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Michael,
 
 So to summarize, ios 6.1 is just around the corner. Second, as soon as that 
 comes out, then shortly afterwards, it is likely that the untethered 
 jailbreak for ios 6.1 is ready as well. Did I miss anything important? It's a 
 lot of talking, isn't it? Smile.
 
 Regards,
 Paul.
 On Jan 27, 2013, at 5:30 PM, Michael Babcock michael.babcoc...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 From what I am learning at the video below, Apple just released iOS version 
 6.1, Beta number five. This beta version looks like the version that Apple 
 releases before they release a public version of their iOS software. This 
 means, Syria had Akley within the next week, we can hope to have iOS six 
 point one out.
 This video also answers any questions related to jailbreaking iOS six:
 http://youtu.be/Huho9Ps-hxY
 
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Re: A little bit about iOS 6.1 release date, and the progress with the jailbreaking iOS six end up

2013-01-27 Thread Paul Erkens
Hi Mike,

I hope jailbreaking will still be as simple as:
1. Hook up the phone to the mac or pc using the usb cable.
2. Start the jailbreak util.
3. Hit start and wait, then enjoy.
Do you think it'll still be that easy?

Regards,
Paul.
On Jan 27, 2013, at 8:50 PM, Michael Babcock michael.babcoc...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 It is, a lot of talking, but it has given me a good grasp of the 
 understanding of what's going on with iOS. Yes, you understand that the same 
 way that I do. I am kind of excited, simply to see what changes if any 
 invoice overcome with iOS 6.1. In addition, I am kind of a geek, and I like 
 to do weird things. Therefore, the intriguing idea of jailbreaking my phone 
 in iOS 6.1 is Very exciting, and I can't wait to see what can be done with 
 it. I will record a brief tutorial as soon as I get information about how to 
 jailbreak, that explains the jailbreaking process, and demonstrates how it 
 can potentially be done accessibly.
 Here's to hoping that the software is accessible, I am working on writing a 
 blog posting and going to tweet that blog posting to this group. That way, we 
 can hope that they consider accessibility towards the beginning of releasing 
 it. At least, this is my hope.
 
 
 http://empoweringtheblind.com
 Empowering the blind, one step at a time.
 
 
 On Jan 27, 2013, at 12:41 PM, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Michael,
 
 So to summarize, ios 6.1 is just around the corner. Second, as soon as that 
 comes out, then shortly afterwards, it is likely that the untethered 
 jailbreak for ios 6.1 is ready as well. Did I miss anything important? It's 
 a lot of talking, isn't it? Smile.
 
 Regards,
 Paul.
 On Jan 27, 2013, at 5:30 PM, Michael Babcock michael.babcoc...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 From what I am learning at the video below, Apple just released iOS version 
 6.1, Beta number five. This beta version looks like the version that Apple 
 releases before they release a public version of their iOS software. This 
 means, Syria had Akley within the next week, we can hope to have iOS six 
 point one out.
 This video also answers any questions related to jailbreaking iOS six:
 http://youtu.be/Huho9Ps-hxY
 
 http://empoweringtheblind.com
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Re: A little bit about iOS 6.1 release date, and the progress with the jailbreaking iOS six end up

2013-01-27 Thread Michael Babcock
I don't know, if you watch the video series, you learned that they completely 
redesigned the entire utility. It is no longer the:
Redsn0w
Jailbreak utility because of some of the hardware changes Apple made on the 
fours and later. However, one can hope that the process is as easy, if not 
easier.
Michael


http://empoweringtheblind.com
Empowering the blind, one step at a time.


On Jan 27, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Mike,
 
 I hope jailbreaking will still be as simple as:
 1. Hook up the phone to the mac or pc using the usb cable.
 2. Start the jailbreak util.
 3. Hit start and wait, then enjoy.
 Do you think it'll still be that easy?
 
 Regards,
 Paul.
 On Jan 27, 2013, at 8:50 PM, Michael Babcock michael.babcoc...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 It is, a lot of talking, but it has given me a good grasp of the 
 understanding of what's going on with iOS. Yes, you understand that the same 
 way that I do. I am kind of excited, simply to see what changes if any 
 invoice overcome with iOS 6.1. In addition, I am kind of a geek, and I like 
 to do weird things. Therefore, the intriguing idea of jailbreaking my phone 
 in iOS 6.1 is Very exciting, and I can't wait to see what can be done with 
 it. I will record a brief tutorial as soon as I get information about how to 
 jailbreak, that explains the jailbreaking process, and demonstrates how it 
 can potentially be done accessibly.
 Here's to hoping that the software is accessible, I am working on writing a 
 blog posting and going to tweet that blog posting to this group. That way, 
 we can hope that they consider accessibility towards the beginning of 
 releasing it. At least, this is my hope.
 
 
 http://empoweringtheblind.com
 Empowering the blind, one step at a time.
 
 
 On Jan 27, 2013, at 12:41 PM, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Michael,
 
 So to summarize, ios 6.1 is just around the corner. Second, as soon as that 
 comes out, then shortly afterwards, it is likely that the untethered 
 jailbreak for ios 6.1 is ready as well. Did I miss anything important? It's 
 a lot of talking, isn't it? Smile.
 
 Regards,
 Paul.
 On Jan 27, 2013, at 5:30 PM, Michael Babcock michael.babcoc...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 From what I am learning at the video below, Apple just released iOS 
 version 6.1, Beta number five. This beta version looks like the version 
 that Apple releases before they release a public version of their iOS 
 software. This means, Syria had Akley within the next week, we can hope to 
 have iOS six point one out.
 This video also answers any questions related to jailbreaking iOS six:
 http://youtu.be/Huho9Ps-hxY
 
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Re: A little bit about iOS 6.1 release date, and the progress with the jailbreaking iOS six end up

2013-01-27 Thread Scott Davert
I suspect you will be disappointed in iOS 6.1 in terms of
accessibility enhancements. However, avid users of Siri will most
likely enjoy it from what I've read.

Scott

On 1/27/13, Michael Babcock michael.babcoc...@gmail.com wrote:
 I don't know, if you watch the video series, you learned that they
 completely redesigned the entire utility. It is no longer the:
 Redsn0w
 Jailbreak utility because of some of the hardware changes Apple made on the
 fours and later. However, one can hope that the process is as easy, if not
 easier.
 Michael


 http://empoweringtheblind.com
 Empowering the blind, one step at a time.


 On Jan 27, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Mike,

 I hope jailbreaking will still be as simple as:
 1. Hook up the phone to the mac or pc using the usb cable.
 2. Start the jailbreak util.
 3. Hit start and wait, then enjoy.
 Do you think it'll still be that easy?

 Regards,
 Paul.
 On Jan 27, 2013, at 8:50 PM, Michael Babcock michael.babcoc...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 It is, a lot of talking, but it has given me a good grasp of the
 understanding of what's going on with iOS. Yes, you understand that the
 same way that I do. I am kind of excited, simply to see what changes if
 any invoice overcome with iOS 6.1. In addition, I am kind of a geek, and
 I like to do weird things. Therefore, the intriguing idea of jailbreaking
 my phone in iOS 6.1 is Very exciting, and I can't wait to see what can be
 done with it. I will record a brief tutorial as soon as I get information
 about how to jailbreak, that explains the jailbreaking process, and
 demonstrates how it can potentially be done accessibly.
 Here's to hoping that the software is accessible, I am working on writing
 a blog posting and going to tweet that blog posting to this group. That
 way, we can hope that they consider accessibility towards the beginning
 of releasing it. At least, this is my hope.


 http://empoweringtheblind.com
 Empowering the blind, one step at a time.


 On Jan 27, 2013, at 12:41 PM, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Michael,

 So to summarize, ios 6.1 is just around the corner. Second, as soon as
 that comes out, then shortly afterwards, it is likely that the
 untethered jailbreak for ios 6.1 is ready as well. Did I miss anything
 important? It's a lot of talking, isn't it? Smile.

 Regards,
 Paul.
 On Jan 27, 2013, at 5:30 PM, Michael Babcock
 michael.babcoc...@gmail.com wrote:

 From what I am learning at the video below, Apple just released iOS
 version 6.1, Beta number five. This beta version looks like the version
 that Apple releases before they release a public version of their iOS
 software. This means, Syria had Akley within the next week, we can hope
 to have iOS six point one out.
 This video also answers any questions related to jailbreaking iOS six:
 http://youtu.be/Huho9Ps-hxY

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Re: A little bit about iOS 6.1 release date, and the progress with the jailbreaking iOS six end up

2013-01-27 Thread Kerri
Oh always siri, is that thing supposed to be the holy grail?

Kerri who is not a fan (nor have i) used it.
On 2013-01-27, at 3:12 PM, Scott Davert scottslistm...@gmail.com wrote:

 I suspect you will be disappointed in iOS 6.1 in terms of
 accessibility enhancements. However, avid users of Siri will most
 likely enjoy it from what I've read.
 
 Scott
 
 On 1/27/13, Michael Babcock michael.babcoc...@gmail.com wrote:
 I don't know, if you watch the video series, you learned that they
 completely redesigned the entire utility. It is no longer the:
 Redsn0w
 Jailbreak utility because of some of the hardware changes Apple made on the
 fours and later. However, one can hope that the process is as easy, if not
 easier.
 Michael
 
 
 http://empoweringtheblind.com
 Empowering the blind, one step at a time.
 
 
 On Jan 27, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Mike,
 
 I hope jailbreaking will still be as simple as:
 1. Hook up the phone to the mac or pc using the usb cable.
 2. Start the jailbreak util.
 3. Hit start and wait, then enjoy.
 Do you think it'll still be that easy?
 
 Regards,
 Paul.
 On Jan 27, 2013, at 8:50 PM, Michael Babcock michael.babcoc...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 It is, a lot of talking, but it has given me a good grasp of the
 understanding of what's going on with iOS. Yes, you understand that the
 same way that I do. I am kind of excited, simply to see what changes if
 any invoice overcome with iOS 6.1. In addition, I am kind of a geek, and
 I like to do weird things. Therefore, the intriguing idea of jailbreaking
 my phone in iOS 6.1 is Very exciting, and I can't wait to see what can be
 done with it. I will record a brief tutorial as soon as I get information
 about how to jailbreak, that explains the jailbreaking process, and
 demonstrates how it can potentially be done accessibly.
 Here's to hoping that the software is accessible, I am working on writing
 a blog posting and going to tweet that blog posting to this group. That
 way, we can hope that they consider accessibility towards the beginning
 of releasing it. At least, this is my hope.
 
 
 http://empoweringtheblind.com
 Empowering the blind, one step at a time.
 
 
 On Jan 27, 2013, at 12:41 PM, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Michael,
 
 So to summarize, ios 6.1 is just around the corner. Second, as soon as
 that comes out, then shortly afterwards, it is likely that the
 untethered jailbreak for ios 6.1 is ready as well. Did I miss anything
 important? It's a lot of talking, isn't it? Smile.
 
 Regards,
 Paul.
 On Jan 27, 2013, at 5:30 PM, Michael Babcock
 michael.babcoc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 From what I am learning at the video below, Apple just released iOS
 version 6.1, Beta number five. This beta version looks like the version
 that Apple releases before they release a public version of their iOS
 software. This means, Syria had Akley within the next week, we can hope
 to have iOS six point one out.
 This video also answers any questions related to jailbreaking iOS six:
 http://youtu.be/Huho9Ps-hxY
 
 http://empoweringtheblind.com
 Empowering the blind, one step at a time.
 
 
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Re: A little bit about iOS 6.1 release date, and the progress with the jailbreaking iOS six end up

2013-01-27 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Ya missed a step.

You gotta go into DFU mode, don't forget.

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  From: Paul Erkens 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 3:53 PM
  Subject: Re: A little bit about iOS 6.1 release date, and the progress with 
the jailbreaking iOS six end up


  Hi Mike,


  I hope jailbreaking will still be as simple as:
  1. Hook up the phone to the mac or pc using the usb cable.
  2. Start the jailbreak util.
  3. Hit start and wait, then enjoy.
  Do you think it'll still be that easy?


  Regards,
  Paul.

  On Jan 27, 2013, at 8:50 PM, Michael Babcock michael.babcoc...@gmail.com 
wrote:


It is, a lot of talking, but it has given me a good grasp of the 
understanding of what's going on with iOS. Yes, you understand that the same 
way that I do. I am kind of excited, simply to see what changes if any invoice 
overcome with iOS 6.1. In addition, I am kind of a geek, and I like to do weird 
things. Therefore, the intriguing idea of jailbreaking my phone in iOS 6.1 is 
Very exciting, and I can't wait to see what can be done with it. I will record 
a brief tutorial as soon as I get information about how to jailbreak, that 
explains the jailbreaking process, and demonstrates how it can potentially be 
done accessibly.
Here's to hoping that the software is accessible, I am working on writing a 
blog posting and going to tweet that blog posting to this group. That way, we 
can hope that they consider accessibility towards the beginning of releasing 
it. At least, this is my hope.


http://empoweringtheblind.com
Empowering the blind, one step at a time.



On Jan 27, 2013, at 12:41 PM, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote:


  Hi Michael,


  So to summarize, ios 6.1 is just around the corner. Second, as soon as 
that comes out, then shortly afterwards, it is likely that the untethered 
jailbreak for ios 6.1 is ready as well. Did I miss anything important? It's a 
lot of talking, isn't it? Smile.


  Regards,
  Paul.

  On Jan 27, 2013, at 5:30 PM, Michael Babcock 
michael.babcoc...@gmail.com wrote:


From what I am learning at the video below, Apple just released iOS 
version 6.1, Beta number five. This beta version looks like the version that 
Apple releases before they release a public version of their iOS software. This 
means, Syria had Akley within the next week, we can hope to have iOS six point 
one out.
This video also answers any questions related to jailbreaking iOS six:
http://youtu.be/Huho9Ps-hxY

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Re: A little bit about iOS 6.1 release date, and the progress with the jailbreaking iOS six end up

2013-01-27 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Why, what all does Seri do from what you've heard that it won't do already?

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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: A little bit about iOS 6.1 release date, and the progress with 
the jailbreaking iOS six end up




I suspect you will be disappointed in iOS 6.1 in terms of
accessibility enhancements. However, avid users of Siri will most
likely enjoy it from what I've read.

Scott

On 1/27/13, Michael Babcock michael.babcoc...@gmail.com wrote:

I don't know, if you watch the video series, you learned that they
completely redesigned the entire utility. It is no longer the:
Redsn0w
Jailbreak utility because of some of the hardware changes Apple made on 
the
fours and later. However, one can hope that the process is as easy, if 
not

easier.
Michael


http://empoweringtheblind.com
Empowering the blind, one step at a time.


On Jan 27, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi Mike,

I hope jailbreaking will still be as simple as:
1. Hook up the phone to the mac or pc using the usb cable.
2. Start the jailbreak util.
3. Hit start and wait, then enjoy.
Do you think it'll still be that easy?

Regards,
Paul.
On Jan 27, 2013, at 8:50 PM, Michael Babcock 
michael.babcoc...@gmail.com

wrote:


It is, a lot of talking, but it has given me a good grasp of the
understanding of what's going on with iOS. Yes, you understand that the
same way that I do. I am kind of excited, simply to see what changes if
any invoice overcome with iOS 6.1. In addition, I am kind of a geek, 
and
I like to do weird things. Therefore, the intriguing idea of 
jailbreaking
my phone in iOS 6.1 is Very exciting, and I can't wait to see what can 
be
done with it. I will record a brief tutorial as soon as I get 
information

about how to jailbreak, that explains the jailbreaking process, and
demonstrates how it can potentially be done accessibly.
Here's to hoping that the software is accessible, I am working on 
writing

a blog posting and going to tweet that blog posting to this group. That
way, we can hope that they consider accessibility towards the beginning
of releasing it. At least, this is my hope.


http://empoweringtheblind.com
Empowering the blind, one step at a time.


On Jan 27, 2013, at 12:41 PM, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com 
wrote:



Hi Michael,

So to summarize, ios 6.1 is just around the corner. Second, as soon as
that comes out, then shortly afterwards, it is likely that the
untethered jailbreak for ios 6.1 is ready as well. Did I miss anything
important? It's a lot of talking, isn't it? Smile.

Regards,
Paul.
On Jan 27, 2013, at 5:30 PM, Michael Babcock
michael.babcoc...@gmail.com wrote:


From what I am learning at the video below, Apple just released iOS
version 6.1, Beta number five. This beta version looks like the 
version

that Apple releases before they release a public version of their iOS
software. This means, Syria had Akley within the next week, we can 
hope

to have iOS six point one out.
This video also answers any questions related to jailbreaking iOS 
six:

http://youtu.be/Huho9Ps-hxY

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Re: A little bit about iOS 6.1 release date, and the progress with the jailbreaking iOS six end up

2013-01-27 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
You may not like it, but a lot of us do, thank you.  Was your comment really 
necessary?


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- Original Message - 
From: Kerri shalo...@shaw.ca

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: A little bit about iOS 6.1 release date, and the progress with 
the jailbreaking iOS six end up




Oh always siri, is that thing supposed to be the holy grail?

Kerri who is not a fan (nor have i) used it.
On 2013-01-27, at 3:12 PM, Scott Davert scottslistm...@gmail.com wrote:


I suspect you will be disappointed in iOS 6.1 in terms of
accessibility enhancements. However, avid users of Siri will most
likely enjoy it from what I've read.

Scott

On 1/27/13, Michael Babcock michael.babcoc...@gmail.com wrote:

I don't know, if you watch the video series, you learned that they
completely redesigned the entire utility. It is no longer the:
Redsn0w
Jailbreak utility because of some of the hardware changes Apple made on 
the
fours and later. However, one can hope that the process is as easy, if 
not

easier.
Michael


http://empoweringtheblind.com
Empowering the blind, one step at a time.


On Jan 27, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi Mike,

I hope jailbreaking will still be as simple as:
1. Hook up the phone to the mac or pc using the usb cable.
2. Start the jailbreak util.
3. Hit start and wait, then enjoy.
Do you think it'll still be that easy?

Regards,
Paul.
On Jan 27, 2013, at 8:50 PM, Michael Babcock 
michael.babcoc...@gmail.com

wrote:


It is, a lot of talking, but it has given me a good grasp of the
understanding of what's going on with iOS. Yes, you understand that 
the
same way that I do. I am kind of excited, simply to see what changes 
if
any invoice overcome with iOS 6.1. In addition, I am kind of a geek, 
and
I like to do weird things. Therefore, the intriguing idea of 
jailbreaking
my phone in iOS 6.1 is Very exciting, and I can't wait to see what can 
be
done with it. I will record a brief tutorial as soon as I get 
information

about how to jailbreak, that explains the jailbreaking process, and
demonstrates how it can potentially be done accessibly.
Here's to hoping that the software is accessible, I am working on 
writing
a blog posting and going to tweet that blog posting to this group. 
That
way, we can hope that they consider accessibility towards the 
beginning

of releasing it. At least, this is my hope.


http://empoweringtheblind.com
Empowering the blind, one step at a time.


On Jan 27, 2013, at 12:41 PM, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com 
wrote:



Hi Michael,

So to summarize, ios 6.1 is just around the corner. Second, as soon 
as

that comes out, then shortly afterwards, it is likely that the
untethered jailbreak for ios 6.1 is ready as well. Did I miss 
anything

important? It's a lot of talking, isn't it? Smile.

Regards,
Paul.
On Jan 27, 2013, at 5:30 PM, Michael Babcock
michael.babcoc...@gmail.com wrote:


From what I am learning at the video below, Apple just released iOS
version 6.1, Beta number five. This beta version looks like the 
version
that Apple releases before they release a public version of their 
iOS
software. This means, Syria had Akley within the next week, we can 
hope

to have iOS six point one out.
This video also answers any questions related to jailbreaking iOS 
six:

http://youtu.be/Huho9Ps-hxY

http://empoweringtheblind.com
Empowering the blind, one step at a time.


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RE: A little bit about iOS 6.1 release date, and the progress with the jailbreaking iOS six end up

2013-01-27 Thread Scott Berry
What exactly is DFU mode?

 

 

 

 

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
Gilland
Sent: January 27, 2013 21:42
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A little bit about iOS 6.1 release date, and the progress with
the jailbreaking iOS six end up

 

Ya missed a step.

 

You gotta go into DFU mode, don't forget.


Chris Gilland.
Founder of CLG Productions
http://www.clgproductions.com
E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com
Phone: 803-760-7136
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From: Paul Erkens mailto:paul.erk...@gmail.com  

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 3:53 PM

Subject: Re: A little bit about iOS 6.1 release date, and the progress with
the jailbreaking iOS six end up

 

Hi Mike, 

 

I hope jailbreaking will still be as simple as:

1. Hook up the phone to the mac or pc using the usb cable.

2. Start the jailbreak util.

3. Hit start and wait, then enjoy.

Do you think it'll still be that easy?

 

Regards,

Paul.

On Jan 27, 2013, at 8:50 PM, Michael Babcock michael.babcoc...@gmail.com
wrote:





It is, a lot of talking, but it has given me a good grasp of the
understanding of what's going on with iOS. Yes, you understand that the same
way that I do. I am kind of excited, simply to see what changes if any
invoice overcome with iOS 6.1. In addition, I am kind of a geek, and I like
to do weird things. Therefore, the intriguing idea of jailbreaking my phone
in iOS 6.1 is Very exciting, and I can't wait to see what can be done with
it. I will record a brief tutorial as soon as I get information about how to
jailbreak, that explains the jailbreaking process, and demonstrates how it
can potentially be done accessibly.
Here's to hoping that the software is accessible, I am working on writing a
blog posting and going to tweet that blog posting to this group. That way,
we can hope that they consider accessibility towards the beginning of
releasing it. At least, this is my hope.


http://empoweringtheblind.com http://empoweringtheblind.com/  

Empowering the blind, one step at a time.


On Jan 27, 2013, at 12:41 PM, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Michael, 

 

So to summarize, ios 6.1 is just around the corner. Second, as soon as that
comes out, then shortly afterwards, it is likely that the untethered
jailbreak for ios 6.1 is ready as well. Did I miss anything important? It's
a lot of talking, isn't it? Smile.

 

Regards,

Paul.

On Jan 27, 2013, at 5:30 PM, Michael Babcock michael.babcoc...@gmail.com
wrote:





From what I am learning at the video below, Apple just released iOS version
6.1, Beta number five. This beta version looks like the version that Apple
releases before they release a public version of their iOS software. This
means, Syria had Akley within the next week, we can hope to have iOS six
point one out.
This video also answers any questions related to jailbreaking iOS six:
http://youtu.be/Huho9Ps-hxY

http://empoweringtheblind.com http://empoweringtheblind.com/  

Empowering the blind, one step at a time.

 

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Re: A little bit about iOS 6.1 release date, and the progress with the jailbreaking iOS six end up

2013-01-27 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Device firmware update.  You have to put it in this mode before jailbreaking 
works.

Push and hold sleep and home at the same time.  Keep them held for about 4 or 5 
seconds.  Release the sleep button but keep holding the home key for about 
another 4 or 5 seconds.  Release the home key.

This may take some practice to get the timing down pat.

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Scott Berry 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 12:21 AM
  Subject: RE: A little bit about iOS 6.1 release date, and the progress with 
the jailbreaking iOS six end up


  What exactly is DFU mode?

   

   

   

   

   

  From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
  Sent: January 27, 2013 21:42
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: A little bit about iOS 6.1 release date, and the progress with 
the jailbreaking iOS six end up

   

  Ya missed a step.

   

  You gotta go into DFU mode, don't forget.


  Chris Gilland.
  Founder of CLG Productions
  http://www.clgproductions.com
  E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com
  Phone: 803-760-7136
  Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185
  Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays.

- Original Message - 

From: Paul Erkens 

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 3:53 PM

Subject: Re: A little bit about iOS 6.1 release date, and the progress with 
the jailbreaking iOS six end up

 

Hi Mike, 

 

I hope jailbreaking will still be as simple as:

1. Hook up the phone to the mac or pc using the usb cable.

2. Start the jailbreak util.

3. Hit start and wait, then enjoy.

Do you think it'll still be that easy?

 

Regards,

Paul.

On Jan 27, 2013, at 8:50 PM, Michael Babcock michael.babcoc...@gmail.com 
wrote:





It is, a lot of talking, but it has given me a good grasp of the 
understanding of what's going on with iOS. Yes, you understand that the same 
way that I do. I am kind of excited, simply to see what changes if any invoice 
overcome with iOS 6.1. In addition, I am kind of a geek, and I like to do weird 
things. Therefore, the intriguing idea of jailbreaking my phone in iOS 6.1 is 
Very exciting, and I can't wait to see what can be done with it. I will record 
a brief tutorial as soon as I get information about how to jailbreak, that 
explains the jailbreaking process, and demonstrates how it can potentially be 
done accessibly.
Here's to hoping that the software is accessible, I am working on writing a 
blog posting and going to tweet that blog posting to this group. That way, we 
can hope that they consider accessibility towards the beginning of releasing 
it. At least, this is my hope.


http://empoweringtheblind.com 

Empowering the blind, one step at a time.


On Jan 27, 2013, at 12:41 PM, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi Michael, 

   

  So to summarize, ios 6.1 is just around the corner. Second, as soon as 
that comes out, then shortly afterwards, it is likely that the untethered 
jailbreak for ios 6.1 is ready as well. Did I miss anything important? It's a 
lot of talking, isn't it? Smile.

   

  Regards,

  Paul.

  On Jan 27, 2013, at 5:30 PM, Michael Babcock 
michael.babcoc...@gmail.com wrote:





  From what I am learning at the video below, Apple just released iOS 
version 6.1, Beta number five. This beta version looks like the version that 
Apple releases before they release a public version of their iOS software. This 
means, Syria had Akley within the next week, we can hope to have iOS six point 
one out.
  This video also answers any questions related to jailbreaking iOS six:
  http://youtu.be/Huho9Ps-hxY

  http://empoweringtheblind.com 

  Empowering the blind, one step at a time.

   

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Re: A little bit about iOS 6.1 release date, and the progress with the jailbreaking iOS six end up

2013-01-27 Thread Devin Prater
Will they finally be porting siri to the iPod 4th generation?

Sent from my iPod with iCloud

On 27 Jan 2013, at 10:46 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
wrote:

You may not like it, but a lot of us do, thank you.  Was your comment really 
necessary?

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- Original Message - From: Kerri shalo...@shaw.ca
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: A little bit about iOS 6.1 release date, and the progress with the 
jailbreaking iOS six end up


 Oh always siri, is that thing supposed to be the holy grail?
 
 Kerri who is not a fan (nor have i) used it.
 On 2013-01-27, at 3:12 PM, Scott Davert scottslistm...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I suspect you will be disappointed in iOS 6.1 in terms of
 accessibility enhancements. However, avid users of Siri will most
 likely enjoy it from what I've read.
 
 Scott
 
 On 1/27/13, Michael Babcock michael.babcoc...@gmail.com wrote:
 I don't know, if you watch the video series, you learned that they
 completely redesigned the entire utility. It is no longer the:
 Redsn0w
 Jailbreak utility because of some of the hardware changes Apple made on the
 fours and later. However, one can hope that the process is as easy, if not
 easier.
 Michael
 
 
 http://empoweringtheblind.com
 Empowering the blind, one step at a time.
 
 
 On Jan 27, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Mike,
 
 I hope jailbreaking will still be as simple as:
 1. Hook up the phone to the mac or pc using the usb cable.
 2. Start the jailbreak util.
 3. Hit start and wait, then enjoy.
 Do you think it'll still be that easy?
 
 Regards,
 Paul.
 On Jan 27, 2013, at 8:50 PM, Michael Babcock michael.babcoc...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 It is, a lot of talking, but it has given me a good grasp of the
 understanding of what's going on with iOS. Yes, you understand that the
 same way that I do. I am kind of excited, simply to see what changes if
 any invoice overcome with iOS 6.1. In addition, I am kind of a geek, and
 I like to do weird things. Therefore, the intriguing idea of jailbreaking
 my phone in iOS 6.1 is Very exciting, and I can't wait to see what can be
 done with it. I will record a brief tutorial as soon as I get information
 about how to jailbreak, that explains the jailbreaking process, and
 demonstrates how it can potentially be done accessibly.
 Here's to hoping that the software is accessible, I am working on writing
 a blog posting and going to tweet that blog posting to this group. That
 way, we can hope that they consider accessibility towards the beginning
 of releasing it. At least, this is my hope.
 
 
 http://empoweringtheblind.com
 Empowering the blind, one step at a time.
 
 
 On Jan 27, 2013, at 12:41 PM, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Michael,
 
 So to summarize, ios 6.1 is just around the corner. Second, as soon as
 that comes out, then shortly afterwards, it is likely that the
 untethered jailbreak for ios 6.1 is ready as well. Did I miss anything
 important? It's a lot of talking, isn't it? Smile.
 
 Regards,
 Paul.
 On Jan 27, 2013, at 5:30 PM, Michael Babcock
 michael.babcoc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 From what I am learning at the video below, Apple just released iOS
 version 6.1, Beta number five. This beta version looks like the version
 that Apple releases before they release a public version of their iOS
 software. This means, Syria had Akley within the next week, we can hope
 to have iOS six point one out.
 This video also answers any questions related to jailbreaking iOS six:
 http://youtu.be/Huho9Ps-hxY
 
 http://empoweringtheblind.com
 Empowering the blind, one step at a time.
 
 
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Jailbreaking an iphone

2011-05-27 Thread Ed Worrell
Hello listers. I know that there is a guide on jailbreaking an iphone on 
applevis's website. My question is if I jailbreak my phone can I still use the 
itunes app store on the device? and will the apps that I have purchessed still 
work on a jailbroken phone?

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Re: Jailbreaking an iphone

2011-05-27 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
Yes, all installed apps will still work along with you still having
access to the app store.

On 27/05/2011, Ed Worrell edworr...@bresnan.net wrote:
 Hello listers. I know that there is a guide on jailbreaking an iphone on
 applevis's website. My question is if I jailbreak my phone can I still use
 the itunes app store on the device? and will the apps that I have purchessed
 still work on a jailbroken phone?

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Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-02-08 Thread Michael Thurman
yes a prepaid phone that has no accessability   tht's my entier point  what I 
want is prepaid minutes with the data plan for an I phone  we should no thave 
to pay for minutes we have no intention of using

On Feb 3, 2011, at 4:53 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

 No.
 
 I'm far from independently wealthy.  To me it sounds like you need a pre 
 payed phone or something.   mean, you do have options you know.  No one is 
 putting a gun to your head, and making you sign a contract.
 
 JMO.
 
 Ricardo Walker
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 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
 
 
 
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 7:32 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
 
 charge way too god damn munc for less and less all the time. or are you 
 independantly wealthy?
 the fact that I can't get a data only plan, or a data and emergency voice 
 plan is rediculous  i NEVER talk on the phone except to confirm a ride or 
 say yeah I'll se you on skype or whatever  so why should I pay fr minutes I 
 will never use?
 
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 6:29 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 Change their minds about what exactly?  Charging more for giving you more?
 
 Ricardo Walker
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 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
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 On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:33 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 Actually on tht note, I write on att's facebook wall explaining on how I 
 feel. If we all, or those who are able to, can do this it might make them 
 change there minds.
 
 Take care.
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth.  What's 
 wrong with paying for that?
 
 I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of 
 them but this doesn't seem unreasonable.  What they charge for texting is 
 unreasonable now that they should reduce.:)
 
 
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
 
 it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot   I'm sick 
 of getting jacked over by these companies
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I 
 would nit consider jailbreaking. 
 
 On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 That's what I'm reading.
 
 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd 
 jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
 Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
 Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
 iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
 Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rose, this is fantastic.
 
 Thanks for this resource!
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
 
 I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be 
 found
 at
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
 and
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
 
 Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version 
 designed
 for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after 
 you
 jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for 
 jb apps,
 also described in jb104.
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
 JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable 
 jailbreak
 information.
 Hth,
 Rose
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
 jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a 
 shot but
 was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak 
 process
 though.
 
 I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
 
 On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
 Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an 
 issue. I
 tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover 
 doesn't
 seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but 
 everything
 seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. 
 Besides,
 Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone 
 suggest
 what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted
 asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev 
 team
 really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
 
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Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-02-08 Thread Ricardo Walker
Thats not necessarily the case.  Their are pre payed phones running Android.  
Like the LG optamous.  So you will have some accessibility.  Or, you can just 
have a regular phone, and have an iPod touch with some sort of mobile hotspot 
device like a sprint overdrive, a MIFI, or a clear iSpot.  Their are many ways 
you can go if your will to do a little research.

Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197



On Feb 8, 2011, at 3:23 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:

 yes a prepaid phone that has no accessability   tht's my entier point  what I 
 want is prepaid minutes with the data plan for an I phone  we should no thave 
 to pay for minutes we have no intention of using
 
 On Feb 3, 2011, at 4:53 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 No.
 
 I'm far from independently wealthy.  To me it sounds like you need a pre 
 payed phone or something.   mean, you do have options you know.  No one is 
 putting a gun to your head, and making you sign a contract.
 
 JMO.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
 
 
 
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 7:32 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
 
 charge way too god damn munc for less and less all the time. or are you 
 independantly wealthy?
 the fact that I can't get a data only plan, or a data and emergency voice 
 plan is rediculous  i NEVER talk on the phone except to confirm a ride or 
 say yeah I'll se you on skype or whatever  so why should I pay fr minutes I 
 will never use?
 
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 6:29 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 Change their minds about what exactly?  Charging more for giving you more?
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
 
 
 
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:33 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 Actually on tht note, I write on att's facebook wall explaining on how I 
 feel. If we all, or those who are able to, can do this it might make them 
 change there minds.
 
 Take care.
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth.  What's 
 wrong with paying for that?
 
 I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of 
 them but this doesn't seem unreasonable.  What they charge for texting 
 is unreasonable now that they should reduce.:)
 
 
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
 
 it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot   I'm 
 sick of getting jacked over by these companies
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I 
 would nit consider jailbreaking. 
 
 On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 That's what I'm reading.
 
 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd 
 jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
 Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
 Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves 
 the
 iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
 Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rose, this is fantastic.
 
 Thanks for this resource!
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
 
 I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be 
 found
 at
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
 and
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
 
 Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version 
 designed
 for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after 
 you
 jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for 
 jb apps,
 also described in jb104.
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
 JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable 
 jailbreak
 information.
 Hth,
 Rose
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
 jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a 
 shot but
 was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak 
 process
 though.
 
 I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
 
 On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
 Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an 
 issue. I
 tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover 
 doesn't
 seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but 
 everything
 seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. 
 Besides,
 Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone 
 suggest
 what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some 
 sighted
 asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev 
 team
 really should be accessible. Anyway

Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-02-08 Thread lpna...@gmail.com
The. LG optimus also provides mobile hotspot if you download hotspot widget.
Egun on, Lagunak! (Basque for G'Day,Mates
Louie. P. Petenalda
Www.mhzpase.com/lpnalda
WWW. Facebook. Com/lpnalda
WWW.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda

Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:

Thats not necessarily the case. Their are pre payed phones running Android. 
Like the LG optamous. So you will have some accessibility. Or, you can just 
have a regular phone, and have an iPod touch with some sort of mobile hotspot 
device like a sprint overdrive, a MIFI, or a clear iSpot. Their are many ways 
you can go if your will to do a little research. Ricardo Walker 
rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 Google Voice: 
1-646-450-2197 On Feb 8, 2011, at 3:23 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:  yes a 
prepaid phone that has no accessability tht's my entier point what I want is 
prepaid minutes with the data plan for an I phone we should no thave to pay for 
minutes we have no intention of using   On Feb 3, 2011, at 4:53 AM, Ricardo 
Walker wrote:   No.   I'm far from independently wealthy. To me it 
sounds like you need a pre payed phone or something. mean, you do have options 
you know. No one is putting a gun to your head, and making you sign a contract. 
  JMO.
  Ricardo Walker  rwalker...@gmail.com  Twitter, Skype, and AIM: 
  rwalker296  Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 On Feb 2, 2011, at 
  7:32 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:   charge way too god damn munc for 
  less and less all the time. or are you independantly wealthy?  the 
  fact that I can't get a data only plan, or a data and emergency voice 
  plan is rediculous i NEVER talk on the phone except to confirm a ride or 
  say yeah I'll se you on skype or whatever so why should I pay fr minutes 
  I will never use?   On Feb 2, 2011, at 6:29 PM, Ricardo Walker 
  wrote:   Change their minds about what exactly? Charging more for 
  giving you more?   Ricardo Walker  rwalker...@gmail.com  
  Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296  Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 
  On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:33 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:  
   Actually on tht note, I write on att's facebook wall explaining on 
  how I feel. If we all, or those who are able to, can do
this it might make them change there minds.   Take care.  On Feb 
2, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:   Well if you have a 
hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth. What's wrong with paying for that? 
  I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the 
best of them but this doesn't seem unreasonable. What they charge for texting 
is unreasonable now that they should reduce.:)On Feb 2, 
2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:   it's assanine that they 
want to charge more for tha thot spot I'm sick of getting jacked over by these 
companies   On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: 
  If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging 
then I would nit consider jailbreaking.   On 30/01/2011, at 
12:57, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:   
That's what I'm reading.   Honestly I'm thinking
just holding out. Really the only reason I'd jailbreak would be to have a WiFi 
hotspot.   On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose 
wrote:   Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who 
goes by the name  Saurik who is involved with a group of people that 
call themselves the  iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with 
apple.  Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott. 
  On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com 
wrote:  Rose, this is fantastic.   Thanks for 
this resource!   On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose 
Morales wrote:   I have written two extensive articles 
on jailbreaking. They can be found  at  
http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective 
 and 
http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
   Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a 
new version designed  for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish 
to install Icy after you  jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to 
the autoinstall path for jb apps,  also described in jb104. 
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.  JB101 also 
explains where to find the latest and most reliable jailbreak  
information.  Hth,  Rose  On Jan 30, 2011, 
at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:   Would you mind 
detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to  jailbreak. 
Maybe provide a link? I was thinking of giving it a shot but  was 
talked out of it on the list. I like the idea of a jailbreak process 
 though.   I wish the
jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.   On Jan 29, 
2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:   Hi guys. 
Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an issue. I  
tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover doesn't 
 seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but 
everything  seems to point in the direction of downloading it 
with Cidia. Besides,  Icy isn't being made anymore

Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-02-08 Thread Michael Thurman
cool  now is there a way to make the i pod touch pair with my bluetooth 
keychain gps reciever so I can run gps navigation aps like the I hone?  aside 
from just having one piece to carry that's the hardest part about getting the I 
pod touch instead of the I phone
On Feb 8, 2011, at 3:44 PM, lpna...@gmail.com wrote:

 The. LG optimus also provides mobile hotspot if you download hotspot widget.
 Egun on, Lagunak! (Basque for G'Day,Mates
 Louie. P. Petenalda
 Www.mhzpase.com/lpnalda
 WWW. Facebook. Com/lpnalda
 WWW.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
 
 Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thats not necessarily the case.  Their are pre payed phones running Android.  
 Like the LG optamous.  So you will have some accessibility.  Or, you can just 
 have a regular phone, and have an iPod touch with some sort of mobile hotspot 
 device like a sprint overdrive, a MIFI, or a clear iSpot.  Their are many 
 ways you can go if your will to do a little research.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
 
 On Feb 8, 2011, at 3:23 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
 
  yes a prepaid phone that has no accessability   tht's my entier point  what 
  I want is prepaid minutes with the data plan for an I phone  we should no 
  thave to pay for minutes we have no intention of using
  
  On Feb 3, 2011, at 4:53 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
  
  No.
  
  I'm far from independently wealthy.  To me it sounds like you need a pre 
  payed phone or something.   mean, you do have options you know.  No one is 
  putting a gun to your head, and making you sign a contract.
  
  JMO.
  
  Ricardo Walker
  rwalker...@gmail.com
  Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
  Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
  
  
  
  On Feb 2, 2011, at 7:32 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
  
  charge way too god damn munc for less and less all the time. or are you 
  independantly wealthy?
  the fact that I can't get a data only plan, or a data and emergency voice 
  plan is rediculous  i NEVER talk on the phone except to confirm a ride or 
  say yeah I'll se you on skype or whatever  so why should I pay fr minutes 
  I will never use?
  
  On Feb 2, 2011, at 6:29 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
  
  Change their minds about what exactly?  Charging more for giving you 
  more?
  
  Ricardo Walker
  rwalker...@gmail.com
  Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
  Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
  
  
  
  On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:33 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
  
  Actually on tht note, I write on att's facebook wall explaining on how 
  I feel. If we all, or those who are able to, can do this it might make 
  them change there minds.
  
  Take care.
  On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
  
  Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth.  What's 
  wrong with paying for that?
  
  I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of 
  them but this doesn't seem unreasonable.  What they charge for texting 
  is unreasonable now that they should reduce.:)
  
  
  On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
  
  it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot   I'm 
  sick of getting jacked over by these companies
  
  On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
  
  If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I 
  would nit consider jailbreaking. 
  
  On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com 
  wrote:
  
  That's what I'm reading.
  
  Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd 
  jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
  
  On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
  
  Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the 
  name
  Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves 
  the
  iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
  Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
  
  On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
  Rose, this is fantastic.
  
  Thanks for this resource!
  
  On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
  
  I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can 
  be found
  at
  http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
  and
  http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
  
  Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version 
  designed
  for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy 
  after you
  jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path 
  for jb apps,
  also described in jb104.
  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
  JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable 
  jailbreak
  information.
  Hth,
  Rose
  On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
  
  Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok 
  to
  jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it 
  a shot but
  was talked out

Re: cos of data plans was Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-02-03 Thread Michael Thurman
then iw ould shove the phone up their assorted orifaces

On Feb 3, 2011, at 1:20 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

 There are a lot of price points.  Sprint wasn't bad although some objected to 
 having to pay the 4G fee in non 4G citis.
 
 The unlimited policy was definitely nice.
 
   I just tried to get the unlimited upgrade and no dice.  Told me to go 
 to Verizon.:)
 
 
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:21 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 Actually TMobile charges $19 for unlimited which is about half of what att 
 would charge if they still had unlimited plans, well they sort of do now but 
 yeah.
 
 S
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
 
 not when t mobile only charges 10 for the same service and  only at and t 
 and verizon have I phones apple should hav ejust let everyone hav I phones 
 now  if they are not careful android will kill the I phone if I could see 
 I'd have a droid in a heartbeat
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth.  What's 
 wrong with paying for that?
 
 I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of 
 them but this doesn't seem unreasonable.  What they charge for texting is 
 unreasonable now that they should reduce.:)
 
 
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
 
 it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot   I'm sick 
 of getting jacked over by these companies
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would 
 nit consider jailbreaking. 
 
 On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 That's what I'm reading.
 
 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd 
 jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
 Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
 Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
 iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
 Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rose, this is fantastic.
 
 Thanks for this resource!
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
 
 I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be 
 found
 at
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
 and
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
 
 Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version 
 designed
 for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after you
 jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb 
 apps,
 also described in jb104.
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
 JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable 
 jailbreak
 information.
 Hth,
 Rose
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
 jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a 
 shot but
 was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak 
 process
 though.
 
 I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
 
 On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
 Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an 
 issue. I
 tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover 
 doesn't
 seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but 
 everything
 seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. 
 Besides,
 Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone 
 suggest
 what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted
 asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev team
 really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
 
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Re: cos of data plans was Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-02-03 Thread Sarah Alawami
I already sent a rant to att's facebook wall and I erge those that are able to 
do so. I can't say all as not all of have FB lol! but if not we can always send 
paper letters and floods of them. Mewhahaha!
On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:09 AM, Michael Thurman wrote:

 then iw ould shove the phone up their assorted orifaces
 
 On Feb 3, 2011, at 1:20 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 There are a lot of price points.  Sprint wasn't bad although some objected 
 to having to pay the 4G fee in non 4G citis.
 
 The unlimited policy was definitely nice.
 
  I just tried to get the unlimited upgrade and no dice.  Told me to go 
 to Verizon.:)
 
 
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:21 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 Actually TMobile charges $19 for unlimited which is about half of what att 
 would charge if they still had unlimited plans, well they sort of do now 
 but yeah.
 
 S
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
 
 not when t mobile only charges 10 for the same service and  only at and t 
 and verizon have I phones apple should hav ejust let everyone hav I phones 
 now  if they are not careful android will kill the I phone if I could see 
 I'd have a droid in a heartbeat
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth.  What's 
 wrong with paying for that?
 
 I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of 
 them but this doesn't seem unreasonable.  What they charge for texting is 
 unreasonable now that they should reduce.:)
 
 
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
 
 it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot   I'm sick 
 of getting jacked over by these companies
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I 
 would nit consider jailbreaking. 
 
 On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 That's what I'm reading.
 
 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd 
 jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
 Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
 Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
 iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
 Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rose, this is fantastic.
 
 Thanks for this resource!
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
 
 I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be 
 found
 at
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
 and
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
 
 Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version 
 designed
 for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after 
 you
 jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for 
 jb apps,
 also described in jb104.
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
 JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable 
 jailbreak
 information.
 Hth,
 Rose
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
 jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a 
 shot but
 was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak 
 process
 though.
 
 I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
 
 On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
 Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an 
 issue. I
 tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover 
 doesn't
 seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but 
 everything
 seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. 
 Besides,
 Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone 
 suggest
 what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted
 asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev 
 team
 really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
 
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Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-02-03 Thread Ricardo Walker
No.

I'm far from independently wealthy.  To me it sounds like you need a pre payed 
phone or something.   mean, you do have options you know.  No one is putting a 
gun to your head, and making you sign a contract.

JMO.

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On Feb 2, 2011, at 7:32 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:

 charge way too god damn munc for less and less all the time. or are you 
 independantly wealthy?
 the fact that I can't get a data only plan, or a data and emergency voice 
 plan is rediculous  i NEVER talk on the phone except to confirm a ride or say 
 yeah I'll se you on skype or whatever  so why should I pay fr minutes I will 
 never use?
 
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 6:29 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 Change their minds about what exactly?  Charging more for giving you more?
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
 
 
 
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:33 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 Actually on tht note, I write on att's facebook wall explaining on how I 
 feel. If we all, or those who are able to, can do this it might make them 
 change there minds.
 
 Take care.
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth.  What's 
 wrong with paying for that?
 
 I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of 
 them but this doesn't seem unreasonable.  What they charge for texting is 
 unreasonable now that they should reduce.:)
 
 
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
 
 it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot   I'm sick 
 of getting jacked over by these companies
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would 
 nit consider jailbreaking. 
 
 On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 That's what I'm reading.
 
 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd 
 jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
 Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
 Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
 iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
 Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rose, this is fantastic.
 
 Thanks for this resource!
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
 
 I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be 
 found
 at
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
 and
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
 
 Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version 
 designed
 for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after you
 jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb 
 apps,
 also described in jb104.
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
 JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable 
 jailbreak
 information.
 Hth,
 Rose
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
 jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a 
 shot but
 was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak 
 process
 though.
 
 I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
 
 On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
 Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an 
 issue. I
 tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover 
 doesn't
 seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but 
 everything
 seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. 
 Besides,
 Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone 
 suggest
 what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted
 asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev team
 really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
 
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Re: cos of data plans was Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-02-03 Thread Ricardo Walker
Ok.

I think we need a little anger management here, and spell check?

Thanks.

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On Feb 3, 2011, at 3:09 AM, Michael Thurman wrote:

 then iw ould shove the phone up their assorted orifaces
 
 On Feb 3, 2011, at 1:20 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 There are a lot of price points.  Sprint wasn't bad although some objected 
 to having to pay the 4G fee in non 4G citis.
 
 The unlimited policy was definitely nice.
 
  I just tried to get the unlimited upgrade and no dice.  Told me to go 
 to Verizon.:)
 
 
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:21 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 Actually TMobile charges $19 for unlimited which is about half of what att 
 would charge if they still had unlimited plans, well they sort of do now 
 but yeah.
 
 S
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
 
 not when t mobile only charges 10 for the same service and  only at and t 
 and verizon have I phones apple should hav ejust let everyone hav I phones 
 now  if they are not careful android will kill the I phone if I could see 
 I'd have a droid in a heartbeat
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth.  What's 
 wrong with paying for that?
 
 I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of 
 them but this doesn't seem unreasonable.  What they charge for texting is 
 unreasonable now that they should reduce.:)
 
 
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
 
 it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot   I'm sick 
 of getting jacked over by these companies
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I 
 would nit consider jailbreaking. 
 
 On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 That's what I'm reading.
 
 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd 
 jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
 Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
 Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
 iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
 Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rose, this is fantastic.
 
 Thanks for this resource!
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
 
 I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be 
 found
 at
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
 and
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
 
 Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version 
 designed
 for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after 
 you
 jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for 
 jb apps,
 also described in jb104.
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
 JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable 
 jailbreak
 information.
 Hth,
 Rose
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
 jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a 
 shot but
 was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak 
 process
 though.
 
 I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
 
 On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
 Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an 
 issue. I
 tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover 
 doesn't
 seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but 
 everything
 seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. 
 Besides,
 Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone 
 suggest
 what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted
 asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev 
 team
 really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
 
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Re: cos of data plans was Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-02-03 Thread Scott Granados
Nah,
I wouldn't want to be on an EV-DO network like Verizon or Sprint at this point.

Much much to slow.

On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:09 AM, Michael Thurman wrote:

 then iw ould shove the phone up their assorted orifaces
 
 On Feb 3, 2011, at 1:20 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 There are a lot of price points.  Sprint wasn't bad although some objected 
 to having to pay the 4G fee in non 4G citis.
 
 The unlimited policy was definitely nice.
 
  I just tried to get the unlimited upgrade and no dice.  Told me to go 
 to Verizon.:)
 
 
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:21 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 Actually TMobile charges $19 for unlimited which is about half of what att 
 would charge if they still had unlimited plans, well they sort of do now 
 but yeah.
 
 S
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
 
 not when t mobile only charges 10 for the same service and  only at and t 
 and verizon have I phones apple should hav ejust let everyone hav I phones 
 now  if they are not careful android will kill the I phone if I could see 
 I'd have a droid in a heartbeat
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth.  What's 
 wrong with paying for that?
 
 I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of 
 them but this doesn't seem unreasonable.  What they charge for texting is 
 unreasonable now that they should reduce.:)
 
 
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
 
 it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot   I'm sick 
 of getting jacked over by these companies
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I 
 would nit consider jailbreaking. 
 
 On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 That's what I'm reading.
 
 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd 
 jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
 Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
 Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
 iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
 Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rose, this is fantastic.
 
 Thanks for this resource!
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
 
 I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be 
 found
 at
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
 and
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
 
 Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version 
 designed
 for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after 
 you
 jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for 
 jb apps,
 also described in jb104.
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
 JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable 
 jailbreak
 information.
 Hth,
 Rose
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
 jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a 
 shot but
 was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak 
 process
 though.
 
 I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
 
 On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
 Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an 
 issue. I
 tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover 
 doesn't
 seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but 
 everything
 seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. 
 Besides,
 Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone 
 suggest
 what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted
 asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev 
 team
 really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
 
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Re: cos of data plans was Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-02-03 Thread Sarah Alawami
at least for now, actually I watched someoen who is on sprint download 
something do video much clear then the iphone can and faster too but Im sure 
that will come when att switches to LTE. 
On Feb 3, 2011, at 10:08 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

 Nah,
 I wouldn't want to be on an EV-DO network like Verizon or Sprint at this 
 point.
 
 Much much to slow.
 
 On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:09 AM, Michael Thurman wrote:
 
 then iw ould shove the phone up their assorted orifaces
 
 On Feb 3, 2011, at 1:20 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 There are a lot of price points.  Sprint wasn't bad although some objected 
 to having to pay the 4G fee in non 4G citis.
 
 The unlimited policy was definitely nice.
 
 I just tried to get the unlimited upgrade and no dice.  Told me to go 
 to Verizon.:)
 
 
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:21 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 Actually TMobile charges $19 for unlimited which is about half of what 
 att would charge if they still had unlimited plans, well they sort of do 
 now but yeah.
 
 S
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
 
 not when t mobile only charges 10 for the same service and  only at and t 
 and verizon have I phones apple should hav ejust let everyone hav I 
 phones now  if they are not careful android will kill the I phone if I 
 could see I'd have a droid in a heartbeat
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth.  What's 
 wrong with paying for that?
 
 I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of 
 them but this doesn't seem unreasonable.  What they charge for texting 
 is unreasonable now that they should reduce.:)
 
 
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
 
 it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot   I'm 
 sick of getting jacked over by these companies
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I 
 would nit consider jailbreaking. 
 
 On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 That's what I'm reading.
 
 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd 
 jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
 Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
 Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves 
 the
 iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
 Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rose, this is fantastic.
 
 Thanks for this resource!
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
 
 I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be 
 found
 at
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
 and
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
 
 Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version 
 designed
 for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after 
 you
 jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for 
 jb apps,
 also described in jb104.
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
 JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable 
 jailbreak
 information.
 Hth,
 Rose
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
 jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a 
 shot but
 was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak 
 process
 though.
 
 I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
 
 On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
 Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an 
 issue. I
 tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover 
 doesn't
 seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but 
 everything
 seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. 
 Besides,
 Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone 
 suggest
 what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some 
 sighted
 asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev 
 team
 really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
 
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Re: cos of data plans was Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-02-03 Thread Scott Granados
I also assume that you were stationary when you saw this demo.  Sprint 4G is 
good but not when you're moving or in doors.

2.5 ghz is a little rough for mobile applications.

On Feb 3, 2011, at 11:44 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

 at least for now, actually I watched someoen who is on sprint download 
 something do video much clear then the iphone can and faster too but Im sure 
 that will come when att switches to LTE. 
 On Feb 3, 2011, at 10:08 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Nah,
 I wouldn't want to be on an EV-DO network like Verizon or Sprint at this 
 point.
 
 Much much to slow.
 
 On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:09 AM, Michael Thurman wrote:
 
 then iw ould shove the phone up their assorted orifaces
 
 On Feb 3, 2011, at 1:20 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 There are a lot of price points.  Sprint wasn't bad although some objected 
 to having to pay the 4G fee in non 4G citis.
 
 The unlimited policy was definitely nice.
 
I just tried to get the unlimited upgrade and no dice.  Told me to go 
 to Verizon.:)
 
 
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:21 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 Actually TMobile charges $19 for unlimited which is about half of what 
 att would charge if they still had unlimited plans, well they sort of do 
 now but yeah.
 
 S
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
 
 not when t mobile only charges 10 for the same service and  only at and 
 t and verizon have I phones apple should hav ejust let everyone hav I 
 phones now  if they are not careful android will kill the I phone if I 
 could see I'd have a droid in a heartbeat
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth.  What's 
 wrong with paying for that?
 
 I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of 
 them but this doesn't seem unreasonable.  What they charge for texting 
 is unreasonable now that they should reduce.:)
 
 
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
 
 it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot   I'm 
 sick of getting jacked over by these companies
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I 
 would nit consider jailbreaking. 
 
 On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 That's what I'm reading.
 
 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd 
 jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
 Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
 Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves 
 the
 iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
 Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rose, this is fantastic.
 
 Thanks for this resource!
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
 
 I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can 
 be found
 at
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
 and
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
 
 Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version 
 designed
 for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after 
 you
 jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for 
 jb apps,
 also described in jb104.
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
 JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable 
 jailbreak
 information.
 Hth,
 Rose
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok 
 to
 jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a 
 shot but
 was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a 
 jailbreak process
 though.
 
 I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
 
 On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
 Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an 
 issue. I
 tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover 
 doesn't
 seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but 
 everything
 seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. 
 Besides,
 Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone 
 suggest
 what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some 
 sighted
 asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev 
 team
 really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
 
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Re: cos of data plans was Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-02-03 Thread Ricardo Walker
tell me about it.

My clear iSpot doesn't do to great in the car or on the bus.

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On Feb 3, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

 I also assume that you were stationary when you saw this demo.  Sprint 4G is 
 good but not when you're moving or in doors.
 
 2.5 ghz is a little rough for mobile applications.
 
 On Feb 3, 2011, at 11:44 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 at least for now, actually I watched someoen who is on sprint download 
 something do video much clear then the iphone can and faster too but Im 
 sure that will come when att switches to LTE. 
 On Feb 3, 2011, at 10:08 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Nah,
 I wouldn't want to be on an EV-DO network like Verizon or Sprint at this 
 point.
 
 Much much to slow.
 
 On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:09 AM, Michael Thurman wrote:
 
 then iw ould shove the phone up their assorted orifaces
 
 On Feb 3, 2011, at 1:20 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 There are a lot of price points.  Sprint wasn't bad although some 
 objected to having to pay the 4G fee in non 4G citis.
 
 The unlimited policy was definitely nice.
 
   I just tried to get the unlimited upgrade and no dice.  Told me to go 
 to Verizon.:)
 
 
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:21 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 Actually TMobile charges $19 for unlimited which is about half of what 
 att would charge if they still had unlimited plans, well they sort of 
 do now but yeah.
 
 S
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
 
 not when t mobile only charges 10 for the same service and  only at and 
 t and verizon have I phones apple should hav ejust let everyone hav I 
 phones now  if they are not careful android will kill the I phone if I 
 could see I'd have a droid in a heartbeat
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth.  What's 
 wrong with paying for that?
 
 I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of 
 them but this doesn't seem unreasonable.  What they charge for texting 
 is unreasonable now that they should reduce.:)
 
 
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
 
 it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot   I'm 
 sick of getting jacked over by these companies
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I 
 would nit consider jailbreaking. 
 
 On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 That's what I'm reading.
 
 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd 
 jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
 Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the 
 name
 Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves 
 the
 iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
 Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rose, this is fantastic.
 
 Thanks for this resource!
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
 
 I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can 
 be found
 at
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
 and
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
 
 Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version 
 designed
 for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy 
 after you
 jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path 
 for jb apps,
 also described in jb104.
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
 JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable 
 jailbreak
 information.
 Hth,
 Rose
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok 
 to
 jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it 
 a shot but
 was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a 
 jailbreak process
 though.
 
 I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
 
 On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
 Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an 
 issue. I
 tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover 
 doesn't
 seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but 
 everything
 seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. 
 Besides,
 Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone 
 suggest
 what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some 
 sighted
 asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev 
 team
 really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
 
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Re: cos of data plans was Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-02-03 Thread Sarah Alawami
Actually I'm writing to you from a clear connection. I'm in doors and get about 
6 to 10 mbps, that is if all 5 comptuers are not on there at once but I would 
imagine that it is hard to get any kind of connection while moving.
On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

 tell me about it.
 
 My clear iSpot doesn't do to great in the car or on the bus.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
 
 
 
 On Feb 3, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 I also assume that you were stationary when you saw this demo.  Sprint 4G is 
 good but not when you're moving or in doors.
 
 2.5 ghz is a little rough for mobile applications.
 
 On Feb 3, 2011, at 11:44 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 at least for now, actually I watched someoen who is on sprint download 
 something do video much clear then the iphone can and faster too but Im 
 sure that will come when att switches to LTE. 
 On Feb 3, 2011, at 10:08 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Nah,
 I wouldn't want to be on an EV-DO network like Verizon or Sprint at this 
 point.
 
 Much much to slow.
 
 On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:09 AM, Michael Thurman wrote:
 
 then iw ould shove the phone up their assorted orifaces
 
 On Feb 3, 2011, at 1:20 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 There are a lot of price points.  Sprint wasn't bad although some 
 objected to having to pay the 4G fee in non 4G citis.
 
 The unlimited policy was definitely nice.
 
  I just tried to get the unlimited upgrade and no dice.  Told me to go 
 to Verizon.:)
 
 
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:21 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 Actually TMobile charges $19 for unlimited which is about half of what 
 att would charge if they still had unlimited plans, well they sort of 
 do now but yeah.
 
 S
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
 
 not when t mobile only charges 10 for the same service and  only at 
 and t and verizon have I phones apple should hav ejust let everyone 
 hav I phones now  if they are not careful android will kill the I 
 phone if I could see I'd have a droid in a heartbeat
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth.  What's 
 wrong with paying for that?
 
 I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best 
 of them but this doesn't seem unreasonable.  What they charge for 
 texting is unreasonable now that they should reduce.:)
 
 
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
 
 it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot   I'm 
 sick of getting jacked over by these companies
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I 
 would nit consider jailbreaking. 
 
 On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 That's what I'm reading.
 
 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason 
 I'd jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
 Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the 
 name
 Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call 
 themselves the
 iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
 Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rose, this is fantastic.
 
 Thanks for this resource!
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
 
 I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can 
 be found
 at
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
 and
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
 
 Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version 
 designed
 for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy 
 after you
 jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path 
 for jb apps,
 also described in jb104.
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
 JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable 
 jailbreak
 information.
 Hth,
 Rose
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you 
 tok to
 jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it 
 a shot but
 was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a 
 jailbreak process
 though.
 
 I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
 
 On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
 Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an 
 issue. I
 tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover 
 doesn't
 seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but 
 everything
 seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. 
 Besides,
 Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can 
 anyone suggest
 what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some 
 sighted
 asistance. But still

Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-02-02 Thread Michael Thurman
it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot   I'm sick of 
getting jacked over by these companies

On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

 If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would nit 
 consider jailbreaking. 
 
 On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 That's what I'm reading.
 
 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd 
 jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
 Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
 Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
 iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
 Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rose, this is fantastic.
 
 Thanks for this resource!
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
 
 I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be found
 at
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
 and
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
 
 Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version designed
 for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after you
 jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb apps,
 also described in jb104.
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
 JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable jailbreak
 information.
 Hth,
 Rose
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
 jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a shot but
 was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak process
 though.
 
 I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
 
 On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
 Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an issue. I
 tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover doesn't
 seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but everything
 seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. Besides,
 Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone suggest
 what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted
 asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev team
 really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
 
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Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-02-02 Thread Scott Granados
Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth.  What's wrong 
with paying for that?

I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of them but 
this doesn't seem unreasonable.  What they charge for texting is unreasonable 
now that they should reduce.:)


On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:

 it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot   I'm sick of 
 getting jacked over by these companies
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would nit 
 consider jailbreaking. 
 
 On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 That's what I'm reading.
 
 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd 
 jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
 Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
 Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
 iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
 Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rose, this is fantastic.
 
 Thanks for this resource!
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
 
 I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be found
 at
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
 and
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
 
 Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version designed
 for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after you
 jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb 
 apps,
 also described in jb104.
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
 JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable jailbreak
 information.
 Hth,
 Rose
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
 jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a shot 
 but
 was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak 
 process
 though.
 
 I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
 
 On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
 Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an issue. I
 tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover doesn't
 seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but everything
 seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. Besides,
 Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone suggest
 what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted
 asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev team
 really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
 
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Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-02-02 Thread Sarah Alawami
I don't midnthe texting. I don't do that often but I do agree. they charge way 
way too much for bandwith. If they lower the prices more consumers might get 
onthe bandwith bandwagon and make the company more money.
On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

 Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth.  What's wrong 
 with paying for that?
 
 I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of them 
 but this doesn't seem unreasonable.  What they charge for texting is 
 unreasonable now that they should reduce.:)
 
 
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
 
 it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot   I'm sick of 
 getting jacked over by these companies
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would 
 nit consider jailbreaking. 
 
 On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 That's what I'm reading.
 
 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd 
 jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
 Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
 Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
 iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
 Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rose, this is fantastic.
 
 Thanks for this resource!
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
 
 I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be found
 at
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
 and
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
 
 Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version designed
 for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after you
 jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb 
 apps,
 also described in jb104.
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
 JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable jailbreak
 information.
 Hth,
 Rose
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
 jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a shot 
 but
 was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak 
 process
 though.
 
 I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
 
 On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
 Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an issue. I
 tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover doesn't
 seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but everything
 seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. Besides,
 Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone suggest
 what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted
 asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev team
 really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
 
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Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-02-02 Thread Sarah Alawami
Actually on tht note, I write on att's facebook wall explaining on how I feel. 
If we all, or those who are able to, can do this it might make them change 
there minds.

Take care.
On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

 Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth.  What's wrong 
 with paying for that?
 
 I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of them 
 but this doesn't seem unreasonable.  What they charge for texting is 
 unreasonable now that they should reduce.:)
 
 
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
 
 it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot   I'm sick of 
 getting jacked over by these companies
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would 
 nit consider jailbreaking. 
 
 On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 That's what I'm reading.
 
 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd 
 jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
 Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
 Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
 iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
 Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rose, this is fantastic.
 
 Thanks for this resource!
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
 
 I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be found
 at
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
 and
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
 
 Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version designed
 for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after you
 jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb 
 apps,
 also described in jb104.
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
 JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable jailbreak
 information.
 Hth,
 Rose
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
 jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a shot 
 but
 was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak 
 process
 though.
 
 I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
 
 On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
 Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an issue. I
 tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover doesn't
 seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but everything
 seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. Besides,
 Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone suggest
 what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted
 asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev team
 really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
 
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2011-02-02 Thread Eric Oyen
Sarah,
they are already being sued because of their predatory business practices 
against iPhone users.

of course, a little negative publicity will certainly not hurt. smile

-Eric

On Feb 2, 2011, at 3:33 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

 Actually on tht note, I write on att's facebook wall explaining on how I 
 feel. If we all, or those who are able to, can do this it might make them 
 change there minds.
 
 Take care.
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth.  What's wrong 
 with paying for that?
 
 I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of them 
 but this doesn't seem unreasonable.  What they charge for texting is 
 unreasonable now that they should reduce.:)
 
 
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
 
 it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot   I'm sick of 
 getting jacked over by these companies
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would 
 nit consider jailbreaking. 
 
 On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 That's what I'm reading.
 
 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd 
 jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
 Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
 Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
 iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
 Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rose, this is fantastic.
 
 Thanks for this resource!
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
 
 I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be 
 found
 at
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
 and
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
 
 Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version designed
 for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after you
 jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb 
 apps,
 also described in jb104.
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
 JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable 
 jailbreak
 information.
 Hth,
 Rose
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
 jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a shot 
 but
 was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak 
 process
 though.
 
 I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
 
 On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
 Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an issue. I
 tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover doesn't
 seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but 
 everything
 seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. 
 Besides,
 Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone 
 suggest
 what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted
 asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev team
 really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
 
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2011-02-02 Thread Scott Granados
facilities cost money.

These carriers are spending over a billion per year at an absolute minimum and 
some like ATT in the tens of billions.

Some thing else to remember is Spectrum is easily used up.  With the newer 
technologies like LTE you can fit more in the same frequency spectrum so costs 
in theory should drop.

Think of it like T1 lines used to be.   They  used to cost $1000+ per month for 
1.5 megabits.  Now you can get 100 megabits for $179 per month.  The facilities 
have to grow and if you look at like a supply and demand curve as the supply 
increases the costs drop assuming that supply outstrips demand.

 



On Feb 2, 2011, at 2:30 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

 I don't midnthe texting. I don't do that often but I do agree. they charge 
 way way too much for bandwith. If they lower the prices more consumers might 
 get onthe bandwith bandwagon and make the company more money.
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth.  What's wrong 
 with paying for that?
 
 I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of them 
 but this doesn't seem unreasonable.  What they charge for texting is 
 unreasonable now that they should reduce.:)
 
 
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
 
 it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot   I'm sick of 
 getting jacked over by these companies
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would 
 nit consider jailbreaking. 
 
 On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 That's what I'm reading.
 
 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd 
 jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
 Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
 Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
 iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
 Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rose, this is fantastic.
 
 Thanks for this resource!
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
 
 I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be 
 found
 at
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
 and
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
 
 Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version designed
 for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after you
 jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb 
 apps,
 also described in jb104.
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
 JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable 
 jailbreak
 information.
 Hth,
 Rose
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
 jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a shot 
 but
 was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak 
 process
 though.
 
 I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
 
 On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
 Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an issue. I
 tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover doesn't
 seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but 
 everything
 seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. 
 Besides,
 Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone 
 suggest
 what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted
 asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev team
 really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
 
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2011-02-02 Thread Ricardo Walker
They don't need to.  31% of people with cell phones in the U.S. are using smart 
phones.  This number is growing every day.  People will pay regardless.  

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On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:30 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

 I don't midnthe texting. I don't do that often but I do agree. they charge 
 way way too much for bandwith. If they lower the prices more consumers might 
 get onthe bandwith bandwagon and make the company more money.
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth.  What's wrong 
 with paying for that?
 
 I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of them 
 but this doesn't seem unreasonable.  What they charge for texting is 
 unreasonable now that they should reduce.:)
 
 
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
 
 it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot   I'm sick of 
 getting jacked over by these companies
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would 
 nit consider jailbreaking. 
 
 On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 That's what I'm reading.
 
 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd 
 jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
 Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
 Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
 iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
 Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rose, this is fantastic.
 
 Thanks for this resource!
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
 
 I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be 
 found
 at
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
 and
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
 
 Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version designed
 for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after you
 jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb 
 apps,
 also described in jb104.
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
 JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable 
 jailbreak
 information.
 Hth,
 Rose
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
 jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a shot 
 but
 was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak 
 process
 though.
 
 I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
 
 On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
 Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an issue. I
 tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover doesn't
 seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but 
 everything
 seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. 
 Besides,
 Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone 
 suggest
 what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted
 asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev team
 really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
 
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2011-02-02 Thread Ricardo Walker
Change their minds about what exactly?  Charging more for giving you more?

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On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:33 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

 Actually on tht note, I write on att's facebook wall explaining on how I 
 feel. If we all, or those who are able to, can do this it might make them 
 change there minds.
 
 Take care.
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth.  What's wrong 
 with paying for that?
 
 I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of them 
 but this doesn't seem unreasonable.  What they charge for texting is 
 unreasonable now that they should reduce.:)
 
 
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
 
 it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot   I'm sick of 
 getting jacked over by these companies
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would 
 nit consider jailbreaking. 
 
 On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 That's what I'm reading.
 
 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd 
 jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
 Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
 Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
 iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
 Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rose, this is fantastic.
 
 Thanks for this resource!
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
 
 I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be 
 found
 at
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
 and
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
 
 Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version designed
 for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after you
 jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb 
 apps,
 also described in jb104.
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
 JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable 
 jailbreak
 information.
 Hth,
 Rose
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
 jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a shot 
 but
 was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak 
 process
 though.
 
 I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
 
 On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
 Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an issue. I
 tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover doesn't
 seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but 
 everything
 seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. 
 Besides,
 Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone 
 suggest
 what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted
 asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev team
 really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
 
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2011-02-02 Thread Michael Thurman
not when t mobile only charges 10 for the same service and  only at and t and 
verizon have I phones apple should hav ejust let everyone hav I phones now  if 
they are not careful android will kill the I phone if I could see I'd have a 
droid in a heartbeat
On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

 Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth.  What's wrong 
 with paying for that?
 
 I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of them 
 but this doesn't seem unreasonable.  What they charge for texting is 
 unreasonable now that they should reduce.:)
 
 
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
 
 it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot   I'm sick of 
 getting jacked over by these companies
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would 
 nit consider jailbreaking. 
 
 On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 That's what I'm reading.
 
 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd 
 jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
 Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
 Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
 iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
 Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rose, this is fantastic.
 
 Thanks for this resource!
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
 
 I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be found
 at
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
 and
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
 
 Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version designed
 for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after you
 jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb 
 apps,
 also described in jb104.
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
 JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable jailbreak
 information.
 Hth,
 Rose
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
 jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a shot 
 but
 was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak 
 process
 though.
 
 I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
 
 On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
 Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an issue. I
 tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover doesn't
 seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but everything
 seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. Besides,
 Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone suggest
 what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted
 asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev team
 really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
 
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Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-02-02 Thread Michael Thurman
charge way too god damn munc for less and less all the time. or are you 
independantly wealthy?
the fact that I can't get a data only plan, or a data and emergency voice plan 
is rediculous  i NEVER talk on the phone except to confirm a ride or say yeah 
I'll se you on skype or whatever  so why should I pay fr minutes I will never 
use?

On Feb 2, 2011, at 6:29 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

 Change their minds about what exactly?  Charging more for giving you more?
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
 
 
 
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:33 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 Actually on tht note, I write on att's facebook wall explaining on how I 
 feel. If we all, or those who are able to, can do this it might make them 
 change there minds.
 
 Take care.
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth.  What's wrong 
 with paying for that?
 
 I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of them 
 but this doesn't seem unreasonable.  What they charge for texting is 
 unreasonable now that they should reduce.:)
 
 
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
 
 it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot   I'm sick 
 of getting jacked over by these companies
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would 
 nit consider jailbreaking. 
 
 On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 That's what I'm reading.
 
 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd 
 jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
 Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
 Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
 iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
 Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rose, this is fantastic.
 
 Thanks for this resource!
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
 
 I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be 
 found
 at
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
 and
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
 
 Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version 
 designed
 for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after you
 jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb 
 apps,
 also described in jb104.
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
 JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable 
 jailbreak
 information.
 Hth,
 Rose
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
 jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a 
 shot but
 was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak 
 process
 though.
 
 I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
 
 On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
 Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an issue. 
 I
 tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover 
 doesn't
 seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but 
 everything
 seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. 
 Besides,
 Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone 
 suggest
 what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted
 asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev team
 really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
 
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2011-02-02 Thread Sarah Alawami
lol! Yeah I know. I sent them a rant about that article. Now let's hope theuy 
don't block me for ranting. I try not to come across as rude. I try and provide 
research as to why I'm ranting but Ill shut up now as I'm just a bit tired.

S
On Feb 2, 2011, at 2:45 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:

 Sarah,
 they are already being sued because of their predatory business practices 
 against iPhone users.
 
 of course, a little negative publicity will certainly not hurt. smile
 
 -Eric
 
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 3:33 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 Actually on tht note, I write on att's facebook wall explaining on how I 
 feel. If we all, or those who are able to, can do this it might make them 
 change there minds.
 
 Take care.
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth.  What's wrong 
 with paying for that?
 
 I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of them 
 but this doesn't seem unreasonable.  What they charge for texting is 
 unreasonable now that they should reduce.:)
 
 
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
 
 it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot   I'm sick 
 of getting jacked over by these companies
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would 
 nit consider jailbreaking. 
 
 On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 That's what I'm reading.
 
 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd 
 jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
 Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
 Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
 iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
 Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rose, this is fantastic.
 
 Thanks for this resource!
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
 
 I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be 
 found
 at
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
 and
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
 
 Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version 
 designed
 for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after you
 jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb 
 apps,
 also described in jb104.
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
 JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable 
 jailbreak
 information.
 Hth,
 Rose
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
 jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a 
 shot but
 was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak 
 process
 though.
 
 I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
 
 On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
 Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an issue. 
 I
 tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover 
 doesn't
 seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but 
 everything
 seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. 
 Besides,
 Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone 
 suggest
 what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted
 asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev team
 really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
 
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2011-02-02 Thread Sarah Alawami
Actually TMobile charges $19 for unlimited which is about half of what att 
would charge if they still had unlimited plans, well they sort of do now but 
yeah.

S
On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:

 not when t mobile only charges 10 for the same service and  only at and t and 
 verizon have I phones apple should hav ejust let everyone hav I phones now  
 if they are not careful android will kill the I phone if I could see I'd have 
 a droid in a heartbeat
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth.  What's wrong 
 with paying for that?
 
 I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of them 
 but this doesn't seem unreasonable.  What they charge for texting is 
 unreasonable now that they should reduce.:)
 
 
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
 
 it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot   I'm sick of 
 getting jacked over by these companies
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would 
 nit consider jailbreaking. 
 
 On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 That's what I'm reading.
 
 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd 
 jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
 Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
 Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
 iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
 Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rose, this is fantastic.
 
 Thanks for this resource!
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
 
 I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be 
 found
 at
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
 and
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
 
 Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version designed
 for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after you
 jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb 
 apps,
 also described in jb104.
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
 JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable 
 jailbreak
 information.
 Hth,
 Rose
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
 jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a shot 
 but
 was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak 
 process
 though.
 
 I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
 
 On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
 Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an issue. I
 tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover doesn't
 seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but 
 everything
 seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. 
 Besides,
 Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone 
 suggest
 what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted
 asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev team
 really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
 
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2011-02-02 Thread Scott Granados
There are a lot of price points.  Sprint wasn't bad although some objected to 
having to pay the 4G fee in non 4G citis.

The unlimited policy was definitely nice.

I just tried to get the unlimited upgrade and no dice.  Told me to go 
to Verizon.:)


On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:21 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

 Actually TMobile charges $19 for unlimited which is about half of what att 
 would charge if they still had unlimited plans, well they sort of do now but 
 yeah.
 
 S
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
 
 not when t mobile only charges 10 for the same service and  only at and t 
 and verizon have I phones apple should hav ejust let everyone hav I phones 
 now  if they are not careful android will kill the I phone if I could see 
 I'd have a droid in a heartbeat
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth.  What's wrong 
 with paying for that?
 
 I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of them 
 but this doesn't seem unreasonable.  What they charge for texting is 
 unreasonable now that they should reduce.:)
 
 
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
 
 it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot   I'm sick 
 of getting jacked over by these companies
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would 
 nit consider jailbreaking. 
 
 On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 That's what I'm reading.
 
 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd 
 jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
 Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
 Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
 iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
 Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rose, this is fantastic.
 
 Thanks for this resource!
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
 
 I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be 
 found
 at
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
 and
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
 
 Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version 
 designed
 for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after you
 jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb 
 apps,
 also described in jb104.
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
 JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable 
 jailbreak
 information.
 Hth,
 Rose
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
 jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a 
 shot but
 was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak 
 process
 though.
 
 I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
 
 On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
 Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an issue. 
 I
 tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover 
 doesn't
 seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but 
 everything
 seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. 
 Besides,
 Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone 
 suggest
 what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted
 asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev team
 really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
 
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Re: band limit was Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-02-01 Thread Rose Morales
 MobileSubstrate is, it's a
 dependency
 of Ultrasn0w, the iPhone dev team's unlocking software for iPhones.
 This
 means that you can't install Ultrasn0w without MobileSubstrate. My
 friend,
 who has a locked phone, was able to boot up just fine. I myself do 
 not,
 so I
 cannot reboot without the assistance of my Mac. Most of you guys won't
 have
 that problem.
 
 On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:16 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
 Thanks! Yeah, I can't say a tethered Jailbreak would exactly be fun.
 
 On 1/31/11, Ben Mustill-Rose bmustillr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Pdanet (The hotspot app) is pretty handy to be fair. I'm lucky that
 my
 3gs is old enough that it can work untethered - I don't really like
 the idea of my phone rebooting for what ever reason only to find 
 that
 at best some of the apps won't work or at worst that it won't boot 
 at
 all.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I
 would
 nit
 consider jailbreaking.
 
 On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 That's what I'm reading.
 
 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason 
 I'd
 jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
 Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the
 name
 Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call 
 themselves
 the
 iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
 Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rose, this is fantastic.
 
 Thanks for this resource!
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
 
 I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can
 be
 found
 at
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
 and
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
 
 Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version
 designed
 for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy
 after
 you
 jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path
 for jb
 apps,
 also described in jb104.
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
 JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable
 jailbreak
 information.
 Hth,
 Rose
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you 
 tok
 to
 jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it
 a
 shot
 but
 was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a
 jailbreak
 process
 though.
 
 I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
 
 On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
 Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an
 issue.
 I
 tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover
 doesn't
 seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but
 everything
 seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia.
 Besides,
 Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can 
 anyone
 suggest
 what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some
 sighted
 asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple 
 Dev
 team
 really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
 
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2011-02-01 Thread Scott Granados
 has a locked phone, was able to boot up just fine. I myself do 
 not,
 so I
 cannot reboot without the assistance of my Mac. Most of you guys 
 won't
 have
 that problem.
 
 On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:16 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
 Thanks! Yeah, I can't say a tethered Jailbreak would exactly be fun.
 
 On 1/31/11, Ben Mustill-Rose bmustillr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Pdanet (The hotspot app) is pretty handy to be fair. I'm lucky that
 my
 3gs is old enough that it can work untethered - I don't really like
 the idea of my phone rebooting for what ever reason only to find 
 that
 at best some of the apps won't work or at worst that it won't boot 
 at
 all.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I
 would
 nit
 consider jailbreaking.
 
 On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 That's what I'm reading.
 
 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason 
 I'd
 jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
 Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the
 name
 Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call 
 themselves
 the
 iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
 Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rose, this is fantastic.
 
 Thanks for this resource!
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
 
 I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They 
 can
 be
 found
 at
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
 and
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
 
 Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version
 designed
 for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy
 after
 you
 jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path
 for jb
 apps,
 also described in jb104.
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
 JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable
 jailbreak
 information.
 Hth,
 Rose
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you 
 tok
 to
 jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving 
 it
 a
 shot
 but
 was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a
 jailbreak
 process
 though.
 
 I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
 
 On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
 Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an
 issue.
 I
 tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but 
 Voiceover
 doesn't
 seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but
 everything
 seems to point in the direction of downloading it with 
 Cidia.
 Besides,
 Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can 
 anyone
 suggest
 what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some
 sighted
 asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple 
 Dev
 team
 really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
 
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Re: band limit was Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-02-01 Thread Scott Granados
 (Safari being the most noticeable example).
 3 If you’ve installed MobileSubstrate tweaks that hook into 
 SpringBoard
 or
 other important programs, your boot will actually fail (you’ll get
 stuck at
 the Apple logo).  You need to use redsn0w to “Just boot tethered 
 right
 now”.
 End of excerpt.
 
 For those of you who don't know what MobileSubstrate is, it's a
 dependency
 of Ultrasn0w, the iPhone dev team's unlocking software for iPhones.
 This
 means that you can't install Ultrasn0w without MobileSubstrate. My
 friend,
 who has a locked phone, was able to boot up just fine. I myself do 
 not,
 so I
 cannot reboot without the assistance of my Mac. Most of you guys 
 won't
 have
 that problem.
 
 On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:16 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
 Thanks! Yeah, I can't say a tethered Jailbreak would exactly be fun.
 
 On 1/31/11, Ben Mustill-Rose bmustillr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Pdanet (The hotspot app) is pretty handy to be fair. I'm lucky that
 my
 3gs is old enough that it can work untethered - I don't really like
 the idea of my phone rebooting for what ever reason only to find 
 that
 at best some of the apps won't work or at worst that it won't boot 
 at
 all.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I
 would
 nit
 consider jailbreaking.
 
 On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 That's what I'm reading.
 
 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason 
 I'd
 jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
 Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the
 name
 Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call 
 themselves
 the
 iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
 Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rose, this is fantastic.
 
 Thanks for this resource!
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
 
 I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They 
 can
 be
 found
 at
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
 and
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
 
 Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version
 designed
 for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy
 after
 you
 jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path
 for jb
 apps,
 also described in jb104.
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
 JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable
 jailbreak
 information.
 Hth,
 Rose
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you 
 tok
 to
 jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving 
 it
 a
 shot
 but
 was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a
 jailbreak
 process
 though.
 
 I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
 
 On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
 Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an
 issue.
 I
 tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but 
 Voiceover
 doesn't
 seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but
 everything
 seems to point in the direction of downloading it with 
 Cidia.
 Besides,
 Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can 
 anyone
 suggest
 what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some
 sighted
 asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple 
 Dev
 team
 really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
 
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2011-02-01 Thread Rose Morales
 is
 easy. redsn0w installed an untethered jailbreak and so nothing below
 applies.
 2 “Tethered” does not mean you cannot boot at all without PC/Mac
 assistance.
 If you have not installed any tweaks that hook into important 
 programs
 like
 SpringBoard or CommCenter, your device will actually boot. However,
 jailbreak programs like Cydia won’t work (and Cydia may still have a
 white
 icon).  Also, certain built-in apps that had to be moved by Cydia 
 will
 fail
 (Safari being the most noticeable example).
 3 If you’ve installed MobileSubstrate tweaks that hook into 
 SpringBoard
 or
 other important programs, your boot will actually fail (you’ll get
 stuck at
 the Apple logo).  You need to use redsn0w to “Just boot tethered 
 right
 now”.
 End of excerpt.
 
 For those of you who don't know what MobileSubstrate is, it's a
 dependency
 of Ultrasn0w, the iPhone dev team's unlocking software for iPhones.
 This
 means that you can't install Ultrasn0w without MobileSubstrate. My
 friend,
 who has a locked phone, was able to boot up just fine. I myself do 
 not,
 so I
 cannot reboot without the assistance of my Mac. Most of you guys 
 won't
 have
 that problem.
 
 On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:16 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
 Thanks! Yeah, I can't say a tethered Jailbreak would exactly be 
 fun.
 
 On 1/31/11, Ben Mustill-Rose bmustillr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Pdanet (The hotspot app) is pretty handy to be fair. I'm lucky 
 that
 my
 3gs is old enough that it can work untethered - I don't really 
 like
 the idea of my phone rebooting for what ever reason only to find 
 that
 at best some of the apps won't work or at worst that it won't 
 boot at
 all.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then 
 I
 would
 nit
 consider jailbreaking.
 
 On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados 
 scott.grana...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 That's what I'm reading.
 
 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason 
 I'd
 jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
 Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the
 name
 Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call 
 themselves
 the
 iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
 Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rose, this is fantastic.
 
 Thanks for this resource!
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
 
 I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They 
 can
 be
 found
 at
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
 and
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
 
 Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new 
 version
 designed
 for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy
 after
 you
 jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path
 for jb
 apps,
 also described in jb104.
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
 JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most 
 reliable
 jailbreak
 information.
 Hth,
 Rose
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you 
 tok
 to
 jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving 
 it
 a
 shot
 but
 was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a
 jailbreak
 process
 though.
 
 I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
 
 On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
 Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into 
 an
 issue.
 I
 tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but 
 Voiceover
 doesn't
 seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but
 everything
 seems to point in the direction of downloading it with 
 Cidia.
 Besides,
 Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can 
 anyone
 suggest
 what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some
 sighted
 asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple 
 Dev
 team
 really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
 
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Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-01-31 Thread Rose Morales
I've been using a tethered jailbreak since November. My serial indicated that 
my 3gS had the old boot rom. In reality, it has the new one. I can't go back to 
4.1 because I didn't save my SHSH blobs, thinking I wouldn't need them. So I'm 
stuck running a tethered 4.2.1. It was a mistake, but I accepted the risks when 
I upgraded. The dev team recommended that I wait to upgrade, but I wanted to 
experiment.

At any rate, when I want to reboot, all I do is put my phone in DFU mode and 
launch a file. My phone starts rebooting. I've never had to reboot my phone 
while out. Since writing the jb guides, I have found out more information on 
what a tethered jb entails. I've considered making this information part of 
jb101. At any rate, straight from this post,
http://blog.iphone-dev.org/post/1652053923/thanksgiving-with-apple
in case there are some who don't feel like reading, here's the important info.

Update #2 :  The notion of a “tethered” jailbreak is pretty new to many people, 
so here’s a quick rundown on what to expect:
1 If you’re on an iPhone3G, old-bootrom iPhone3GS, or non-MC ipt2g, life is 
easy. redsn0w installed an untethered jailbreak and so nothing below applies.
2 “Tethered” does not mean you cannot boot at all without PC/Mac assistance. If 
you have not installed any tweaks that hook into important programs like 
SpringBoard or CommCenter, your device will actually boot. However, jailbreak 
programs like Cydia won’t work (and Cydia may still have a white icon).  Also, 
certain built-in apps that had to be moved by Cydia will fail (Safari being the 
most noticeable example).
3 If you’ve installed MobileSubstrate tweaks that hook into SpringBoard or 
other important programs, your boot will actually fail (you’ll get stuck at the 
Apple logo).  You need to use redsn0w to “Just boot tethered right now”.
End of excerpt.

For those of you who don't know what MobileSubstrate is, it's a dependency of 
Ultrasn0w, the iPhone dev team's unlocking software for iPhones. This means 
that you can't install Ultrasn0w without MobileSubstrate. My friend, who has a 
locked phone, was able to boot up just fine. I myself do not, so I cannot 
reboot without the assistance of my Mac. Most of you guys won't have that 
problem.

On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:16 AM, James Malone wrote:

 Thanks! Yeah, I can't say a tethered Jailbreak would exactly be fun.
 
 On 1/31/11, Ben Mustill-Rose bmustillr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Pdanet (The hotspot app) is pretty handy to be fair. I'm lucky that my
 3gs is old enough that it can work untethered - I don't really like
 the idea of my phone rebooting for what ever reason only to find that
 at best some of the apps won't work or at worst that it won't boot at
 all.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would
 nit
 consider jailbreaking.
 
 On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 That's what I'm reading.
 
 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd
 jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
 Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
 Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
 iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
 Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rose, this is fantastic.
 
 Thanks for this resource!
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
 
 I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be
 found
 at
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
 and
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
 
 Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version
 designed
 for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after you
 jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb
 apps,
 also described in jb104.
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
 JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable
 jailbreak
 information.
 Hth,
 Rose
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
 jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a shot
 but
 was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak
 process
 though.
 
 I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
 
 On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
 Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an issue.
 I
 tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover
 doesn't
 seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but
 everything
 seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia.
 Besides,
 Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone
 suggest
 what

Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-01-31 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
I'm sorry to hear that rose. I thought that the serial number method
was pretty safe? I do know that if the 4th and 5 th digits are between
40 and 45 it can be hit and miss, but mine are 21. I guess at the
least, it's an experience.
I don't like the way that stuff that changes springboard makes the
phone unbootable though and whilst I don't know for sure, I'm assuming
that things like 5 icon doc will change it. Also, I don't like the
idea of safari not working.
To be fair, your right though, I don't think my phones ever rebooted
randomly or because of a crash, so perhaps I'm just being paranoid.

On 31/01/2011, Rose Morales nothingbutl...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've been using a tethered jailbreak since November. My serial indicated
 that my 3gS had the old boot rom. In reality, it has the new one. I can't go
 back to 4.1 because I didn't save my SHSH blobs, thinking I wouldn't need
 them. So I'm stuck running a tethered 4.2.1. It was a mistake, but I
 accepted the risks when I upgraded. The dev team recommended that I wait to
 upgrade, but I wanted to experiment.

 At any rate, when I want to reboot, all I do is put my phone in DFU mode and
 launch a file. My phone starts rebooting. I've never had to reboot my phone
 while out. Since writing the jb guides, I have found out more information on
 what a tethered jb entails. I've considered making this information part of
 jb101. At any rate, straight from this post,
 http://blog.iphone-dev.org/post/1652053923/thanksgiving-with-apple
 in case there are some who don't feel like reading, here's the important
 info.

 Update #2 :  The notion of a “tethered” jailbreak is pretty new to many
 people, so here’s a quick rundown on what to expect:
 1 If you’re on an iPhone3G, old-bootrom iPhone3GS, or non-MC ipt2g, life is
 easy. redsn0w installed an untethered jailbreak and so nothing below
 applies.
 2 “Tethered” does not mean you cannot boot at all without PC/Mac assistance.
 If you have not installed any tweaks that hook into important programs like
 SpringBoard or CommCenter, your device will actually boot. However,
 jailbreak programs like Cydia won’t work (and Cydia may still have a white
 icon).  Also, certain built-in apps that had to be moved by Cydia will fail
 (Safari being the most noticeable example).
 3 If you’ve installed MobileSubstrate tweaks that hook into SpringBoard or
 other important programs, your boot will actually fail (you’ll get stuck at
 the Apple logo).  You need to use redsn0w to “Just boot tethered right now”.
 End of excerpt.

 For those of you who don't know what MobileSubstrate is, it's a dependency
 of Ultrasn0w, the iPhone dev team's unlocking software for iPhones. This
 means that you can't install Ultrasn0w without MobileSubstrate. My friend,
 who has a locked phone, was able to boot up just fine. I myself do not, so I
 cannot reboot without the assistance of my Mac. Most of you guys won't have
 that problem.

 On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:16 AM, James Malone wrote:

 Thanks! Yeah, I can't say a tethered Jailbreak would exactly be fun.

 On 1/31/11, Ben Mustill-Rose bmustillr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Pdanet (The hotspot app) is pretty handy to be fair. I'm lucky that my
 3gs is old enough that it can work untethered - I don't really like
 the idea of my phone rebooting for what ever reason only to find that
 at best some of the apps won't work or at worst that it won't boot at
 all.

 On 30/01/2011, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would
 nit
 consider jailbreaking.

 On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 That's what I'm reading.

 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd
 jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.

 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:

 Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
 Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
 iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
 Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.

 On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rose, this is fantastic.

 Thanks for this resource!

 On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:

 I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be
 found
 at
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
 and
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2

 Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version
 designed
 for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after
 you
 jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb
 apps,
 also described in jb104.
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
 JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable
 jailbreak
 information.
 Hth,
 Rose
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

 Would you mind detailing how you did

Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-01-31 Thread Sarah Alawami
and now that apple has implomented a ban something or other, I have to dig up 
the article again, they might know when you jail break as you canot restore to 
older OS's if you mess up or if you phone explosively breaks.

S
On Jan 31, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:

 I'm sorry to hear that rose. I thought that the serial number method
 was pretty safe? I do know that if the 4th and 5 th digits are between
 40 and 45 it can be hit and miss, but mine are 21. I guess at the
 least, it's an experience.
 I don't like the way that stuff that changes springboard makes the
 phone unbootable though and whilst I don't know for sure, I'm assuming
 that things like 5 icon doc will change it. Also, I don't like the
 idea of safari not working.
 To be fair, your right though, I don't think my phones ever rebooted
 randomly or because of a crash, so perhaps I'm just being paranoid.
 
 On 31/01/2011, Rose Morales nothingbutl...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've been using a tethered jailbreak since November. My serial indicated
 that my 3gS had the old boot rom. In reality, it has the new one. I can't go
 back to 4.1 because I didn't save my SHSH blobs, thinking I wouldn't need
 them. So I'm stuck running a tethered 4.2.1. It was a mistake, but I
 accepted the risks when I upgraded. The dev team recommended that I wait to
 upgrade, but I wanted to experiment.
 
 At any rate, when I want to reboot, all I do is put my phone in DFU mode and
 launch a file. My phone starts rebooting. I've never had to reboot my phone
 while out. Since writing the jb guides, I have found out more information on
 what a tethered jb entails. I've considered making this information part of
 jb101. At any rate, straight from this post,
 http://blog.iphone-dev.org/post/1652053923/thanksgiving-with-apple
 in case there are some who don't feel like reading, here's the important
 info.
 
 Update #2 :  The notion of a “tethered” jailbreak is pretty new to many
 people, so here’s a quick rundown on what to expect:
 1 If you’re on an iPhone3G, old-bootrom iPhone3GS, or non-MC ipt2g, life is
 easy. redsn0w installed an untethered jailbreak and so nothing below
 applies.
 2 “Tethered” does not mean you cannot boot at all without PC/Mac assistance.
 If you have not installed any tweaks that hook into important programs like
 SpringBoard or CommCenter, your device will actually boot. However,
 jailbreak programs like Cydia won’t work (and Cydia may still have a white
 icon).  Also, certain built-in apps that had to be moved by Cydia will fail
 (Safari being the most noticeable example).
 3 If you’ve installed MobileSubstrate tweaks that hook into SpringBoard or
 other important programs, your boot will actually fail (you’ll get stuck at
 the Apple logo).  You need to use redsn0w to “Just boot tethered right now”.
 End of excerpt.
 
 For those of you who don't know what MobileSubstrate is, it's a dependency
 of Ultrasn0w, the iPhone dev team's unlocking software for iPhones. This
 means that you can't install Ultrasn0w without MobileSubstrate. My friend,
 who has a locked phone, was able to boot up just fine. I myself do not, so I
 cannot reboot without the assistance of my Mac. Most of you guys won't have
 that problem.
 
 On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:16 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
 Thanks! Yeah, I can't say a tethered Jailbreak would exactly be fun.
 
 On 1/31/11, Ben Mustill-Rose bmustillr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Pdanet (The hotspot app) is pretty handy to be fair. I'm lucky that my
 3gs is old enough that it can work untethered - I don't really like
 the idea of my phone rebooting for what ever reason only to find that
 at best some of the apps won't work or at worst that it won't boot at
 all.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would
 nit
 consider jailbreaking.
 
 On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 That's what I'm reading.
 
 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd
 jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
 Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
 Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
 iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
 Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rose, this is fantastic.
 
 Thanks for this resource!
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
 
 I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be
 found
 at
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
 and
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
 
 Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version
 designed
 for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after
 you
 jailbreak, copy the files

Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-01-31 Thread Rose Morales
Ben,
My serial indicates that my iphone was produced in week 27. There is no reason 
why I should have been on the new boot rom. My only guess is that my week 
number was really 72, as 2 is the number after 7. I don't know, but as I said, 
I accepted the risks when I chose to experiment. And if I don't experiment, no 
one else will. I'm not on a carrier supported by Apple, so I have nothing to 
lose either way. I've put my phone through the paces many times. So unless 
something happens to the hardware or the phone itself, I doubt my phone will 
ever truly be bricked. I can't switch to att because I am paying for two other 
phones as a favor to my family. T-mobile makes it easier to pay for three 
phones than att. I really wanted my iPhone,and I wanted to show other blind 
people who wished to do the same thing that jailbreaking is nothing to be 
scared of. I've done so, and I will continue to do so.
Rose
On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:05 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:

 I'm sorry to hear that rose. I thought that the serial number method
 was pretty safe? I do know that if the 4th and 5 th digits are between
 40 and 45 it can be hit and miss, but mine are 21. I guess at the
 least, it's an experience.
 I don't like the way that stuff that changes springboard makes the
 phone unbootable though and whilst I don't know for sure, I'm assuming
 that things like 5 icon doc will change it. Also, I don't like the
 idea of safari not working.
 To be fair, your right though, I don't think my phones ever rebooted
 randomly or because of a crash, so perhaps I'm just being paranoid.
 
 On 31/01/2011, Rose Morales nothingbutl...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've been using a tethered jailbreak since November. My serial indicated
 that my 3gS had the old boot rom. In reality, it has the new one. I can't go
 back to 4.1 because I didn't save my SHSH blobs, thinking I wouldn't need
 them. So I'm stuck running a tethered 4.2.1. It was a mistake, but I
 accepted the risks when I upgraded. The dev team recommended that I wait to
 upgrade, but I wanted to experiment.
 
 At any rate, when I want to reboot, all I do is put my phone in DFU mode and
 launch a file. My phone starts rebooting. I've never had to reboot my phone
 while out. Since writing the jb guides, I have found out more information on
 what a tethered jb entails. I've considered making this information part of
 jb101. At any rate, straight from this post,
 http://blog.iphone-dev.org/post/1652053923/thanksgiving-with-apple
 in case there are some who don't feel like reading, here's the important
 info.
 
 Update #2 :  The notion of a “tethered” jailbreak is pretty new to many
 people, so here’s a quick rundown on what to expect:
 1 If you’re on an iPhone3G, old-bootrom iPhone3GS, or non-MC ipt2g, life is
 easy. redsn0w installed an untethered jailbreak and so nothing below
 applies.
 2 “Tethered” does not mean you cannot boot at all without PC/Mac assistance.
 If you have not installed any tweaks that hook into important programs like
 SpringBoard or CommCenter, your device will actually boot. However,
 jailbreak programs like Cydia won’t work (and Cydia may still have a white
 icon).  Also, certain built-in apps that had to be moved by Cydia will fail
 (Safari being the most noticeable example).
 3 If you’ve installed MobileSubstrate tweaks that hook into SpringBoard or
 other important programs, your boot will actually fail (you’ll get stuck at
 the Apple logo).  You need to use redsn0w to “Just boot tethered right now”.
 End of excerpt.
 
 For those of you who don't know what MobileSubstrate is, it's a dependency
 of Ultrasn0w, the iPhone dev team's unlocking software for iPhones. This
 means that you can't install Ultrasn0w without MobileSubstrate. My friend,
 who has a locked phone, was able to boot up just fine. I myself do not, so I
 cannot reboot without the assistance of my Mac. Most of you guys won't have
 that problem.
 
 On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:16 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
 Thanks! Yeah, I can't say a tethered Jailbreak would exactly be fun.
 
 On 1/31/11, Ben Mustill-Rose bmustillr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Pdanet (The hotspot app) is pretty handy to be fair. I'm lucky that my
 3gs is old enough that it can work untethered - I don't really like
 the idea of my phone rebooting for what ever reason only to find that
 at best some of the apps won't work or at worst that it won't boot at
 all.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would
 nit
 consider jailbreaking.
 
 On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 That's what I'm reading.
 
 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd
 jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
 Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
 Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
 iPhone dev team

Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-01-31 Thread Rose Morales
As far as I know, unless you flash your phone's baseband, you can still 
restore. Apple won't know a thing.
On Jan 31, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

 and now that apple has implomented a ban something or other, I have to dig up 
 the article again, they might know when you jail break as you canot restore 
 to older OS's if you mess up or if you phone explosively breaks.
 
 S
 On Jan 31, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
 I'm sorry to hear that rose. I thought that the serial number method
 was pretty safe? I do know that if the 4th and 5 th digits are between
 40 and 45 it can be hit and miss, but mine are 21. I guess at the
 least, it's an experience.
 I don't like the way that stuff that changes springboard makes the
 phone unbootable though and whilst I don't know for sure, I'm assuming
 that things like 5 icon doc will change it. Also, I don't like the
 idea of safari not working.
 To be fair, your right though, I don't think my phones ever rebooted
 randomly or because of a crash, so perhaps I'm just being paranoid.
 
 On 31/01/2011, Rose Morales nothingbutl...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've been using a tethered jailbreak since November. My serial indicated
 that my 3gS had the old boot rom. In reality, it has the new one. I can't go
 back to 4.1 because I didn't save my SHSH blobs, thinking I wouldn't need
 them. So I'm stuck running a tethered 4.2.1. It was a mistake, but I
 accepted the risks when I upgraded. The dev team recommended that I wait to
 upgrade, but I wanted to experiment.
 
 At any rate, when I want to reboot, all I do is put my phone in DFU mode and
 launch a file. My phone starts rebooting. I've never had to reboot my phone
 while out. Since writing the jb guides, I have found out more information on
 what a tethered jb entails. I've considered making this information part of
 jb101. At any rate, straight from this post,
 http://blog.iphone-dev.org/post/1652053923/thanksgiving-with-apple
 in case there are some who don't feel like reading, here's the important
 info.
 
 Update #2 :  The notion of a “tethered” jailbreak is pretty new to many
 people, so here’s a quick rundown on what to expect:
 1 If you’re on an iPhone3G, old-bootrom iPhone3GS, or non-MC ipt2g, life is
 easy. redsn0w installed an untethered jailbreak and so nothing below
 applies.
 2 “Tethered” does not mean you cannot boot at all without PC/Mac assistance.
 If you have not installed any tweaks that hook into important programs like
 SpringBoard or CommCenter, your device will actually boot. However,
 jailbreak programs like Cydia won’t work (and Cydia may still have a white
 icon).  Also, certain built-in apps that had to be moved by Cydia will fail
 (Safari being the most noticeable example).
 3 If you’ve installed MobileSubstrate tweaks that hook into SpringBoard or
 other important programs, your boot will actually fail (you’ll get stuck at
 the Apple logo).  You need to use redsn0w to “Just boot tethered right now”.
 End of excerpt.
 
 For those of you who don't know what MobileSubstrate is, it's a dependency
 of Ultrasn0w, the iPhone dev team's unlocking software for iPhones. This
 means that you can't install Ultrasn0w without MobileSubstrate. My friend,
 who has a locked phone, was able to boot up just fine. I myself do not, so I
 cannot reboot without the assistance of my Mac. Most of you guys won't have
 that problem.
 
 On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:16 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
 Thanks! Yeah, I can't say a tethered Jailbreak would exactly be fun.
 
 On 1/31/11, Ben Mustill-Rose bmustillr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Pdanet (The hotspot app) is pretty handy to be fair. I'm lucky that my
 3gs is old enough that it can work untethered - I don't really like
 the idea of my phone rebooting for what ever reason only to find that
 at best some of the apps won't work or at worst that it won't boot at
 all.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would
 nit
 consider jailbreaking.
 
 On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 That's what I'm reading.
 
 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd
 jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
 Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
 Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
 iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
 Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rose, this is fantastic.
 
 Thanks for this resource!
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
 
 I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be
 found
 at
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
 and
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
 
 Also

Re: band limit was Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-01-31 Thread Sarah Alawami
Sorry, I think my brain is slowiing down again. As long as I what? and I read 
the article but I don't quite understand why apple did what it did and what it 
means. lol!
On Jan 31, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Rose Morales wrote:

 As far as I know, unless you flash your phone's baseband, you can still 
 restore. Apple won't know a thing.
 On Jan 31, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 and now that apple has implomented a ban something or other, I have to dig 
 up the article again, they might know when you jail break as you canot 
 restore to older OS's if you mess up or if you phone explosively breaks.
 
 S
 On Jan 31, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
 I'm sorry to hear that rose. I thought that the serial number method
 was pretty safe? I do know that if the 4th and 5 th digits are between
 40 and 45 it can be hit and miss, but mine are 21. I guess at the
 least, it's an experience.
 I don't like the way that stuff that changes springboard makes the
 phone unbootable though and whilst I don't know for sure, I'm assuming
 that things like 5 icon doc will change it. Also, I don't like the
 idea of safari not working.
 To be fair, your right though, I don't think my phones ever rebooted
 randomly or because of a crash, so perhaps I'm just being paranoid.
 
 On 31/01/2011, Rose Morales nothingbutl...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've been using a tethered jailbreak since November. My serial indicated
 that my 3gS had the old boot rom. In reality, it has the new one. I can't 
 go
 back to 4.1 because I didn't save my SHSH blobs, thinking I wouldn't need
 them. So I'm stuck running a tethered 4.2.1. It was a mistake, but I
 accepted the risks when I upgraded. The dev team recommended that I wait to
 upgrade, but I wanted to experiment.
 
 At any rate, when I want to reboot, all I do is put my phone in DFU mode 
 and
 launch a file. My phone starts rebooting. I've never had to reboot my phone
 while out. Since writing the jb guides, I have found out more information 
 on
 what a tethered jb entails. I've considered making this information part of
 jb101. At any rate, straight from this post,
 http://blog.iphone-dev.org/post/1652053923/thanksgiving-with-apple
 in case there are some who don't feel like reading, here's the important
 info.
 
 Update #2 :  The notion of a “tethered” jailbreak is pretty new to many
 people, so here’s a quick rundown on what to expect:
 1 If you’re on an iPhone3G, old-bootrom iPhone3GS, or non-MC ipt2g, life is
 easy. redsn0w installed an untethered jailbreak and so nothing below
 applies.
 2 “Tethered” does not mean you cannot boot at all without PC/Mac 
 assistance.
 If you have not installed any tweaks that hook into important programs like
 SpringBoard or CommCenter, your device will actually boot. However,
 jailbreak programs like Cydia won’t work (and Cydia may still have a white
 icon).  Also, certain built-in apps that had to be moved by Cydia will fail
 (Safari being the most noticeable example).
 3 If you’ve installed MobileSubstrate tweaks that hook into SpringBoard or
 other important programs, your boot will actually fail (you’ll get stuck at
 the Apple logo).  You need to use redsn0w to “Just boot tethered right 
 now”.
 End of excerpt.
 
 For those of you who don't know what MobileSubstrate is, it's a dependency
 of Ultrasn0w, the iPhone dev team's unlocking software for iPhones. This
 means that you can't install Ultrasn0w without MobileSubstrate. My friend,
 who has a locked phone, was able to boot up just fine. I myself do not, so 
 I
 cannot reboot without the assistance of my Mac. Most of you guys won't have
 that problem.
 
 On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:16 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
 Thanks! Yeah, I can't say a tethered Jailbreak would exactly be fun.
 
 On 1/31/11, Ben Mustill-Rose bmustillr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Pdanet (The hotspot app) is pretty handy to be fair. I'm lucky that my
 3gs is old enough that it can work untethered - I don't really like
 the idea of my phone rebooting for what ever reason only to find that
 at best some of the apps won't work or at worst that it won't boot at
 all.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would
 nit
 consider jailbreaking.
 
 On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 That's what I'm reading.
 
 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd
 jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
 Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
 Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
 iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
 Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rose, this is fantastic.
 
 Thanks for this resource!
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
 
 I have written two

Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-01-31 Thread Justin Ekis
I don't have any experience with jailbreaking myself. If I understand that 
article though, the base band check only effects people who unlock their 
iPhone. This is an additional process to enable the phone on other carriers. 
People who simply jailbreak don't need to be concerned with this.

Justin

On Jan 31, 2011, at 12:17 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

and now that apple has implomented a ban something or other, I have to dig up 
the article again, they might know when you jail break as you canot restore to 
older OS's if you mess up or if you phone explosively breaks.

S
On Jan 31, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:

 I'm sorry to hear that rose. I thought that the serial number method
 was pretty safe? I do know that if the 4th and 5 th digits are between
 40 and 45 it can be hit and miss, but mine are 21. I guess at the
 least, it's an experience.
 I don't like the way that stuff that changes springboard makes the
 phone unbootable though and whilst I don't know for sure, I'm assuming
 that things like 5 icon doc will change it. Also, I don't like the
 idea of safari not working.
 To be fair, your right though, I don't think my phones ever rebooted
 randomly or because of a crash, so perhaps I'm just being paranoid.
 
 On 31/01/2011, Rose Morales nothingbutl...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've been using a tethered jailbreak since November. My serial indicated
 that my 3gS had the old boot rom. In reality, it has the new one. I can't go
 back to 4.1 because I didn't save my SHSH blobs, thinking I wouldn't need
 them. So I'm stuck running a tethered 4.2.1. It was a mistake, but I
 accepted the risks when I upgraded. The dev team recommended that I wait to
 upgrade, but I wanted to experiment.
 
 At any rate, when I want to reboot, all I do is put my phone in DFU mode and
 launch a file. My phone starts rebooting. I've never had to reboot my phone
 while out. Since writing the jb guides, I have found out more information on
 what a tethered jb entails. I've considered making this information part of
 jb101. At any rate, straight from this post,
 http://blog.iphone-dev.org/post/1652053923/thanksgiving-with-apple
 in case there are some who don't feel like reading, here's the important
 info.
 
 Update #2 :  The notion of a “tethered” jailbreak is pretty new to many
 people, so here’s a quick rundown on what to expect:
 1 If you’re on an iPhone3G, old-bootrom iPhone3GS, or non-MC ipt2g, life is
 easy. redsn0w installed an untethered jailbreak and so nothing below
 applies.
 2 “Tethered” does not mean you cannot boot at all without PC/Mac assistance.
 If you have not installed any tweaks that hook into important programs like
 SpringBoard or CommCenter, your device will actually boot. However,
 jailbreak programs like Cydia won’t work (and Cydia may still have a white
 icon).  Also, certain built-in apps that had to be moved by Cydia will fail
 (Safari being the most noticeable example).
 3 If you’ve installed MobileSubstrate tweaks that hook into SpringBoard or
 other important programs, your boot will actually fail (you’ll get stuck at
 the Apple logo).  You need to use redsn0w to “Just boot tethered right now”.
 End of excerpt.
 
 For those of you who don't know what MobileSubstrate is, it's a dependency
 of Ultrasn0w, the iPhone dev team's unlocking software for iPhones. This
 means that you can't install Ultrasn0w without MobileSubstrate. My friend,
 who has a locked phone, was able to boot up just fine. I myself do not, so I
 cannot reboot without the assistance of my Mac. Most of you guys won't have
 that problem.
 
 On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:16 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
 Thanks! Yeah, I can't say a tethered Jailbreak would exactly be fun.
 
 On 1/31/11, Ben Mustill-Rose bmustillr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Pdanet (The hotspot app) is pretty handy to be fair. I'm lucky that my
 3gs is old enough that it can work untethered - I don't really like
 the idea of my phone rebooting for what ever reason only to find that
 at best some of the apps won't work or at worst that it won't boot at
 all.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would
 nit
 consider jailbreaking.
 
 On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 That's what I'm reading.
 
 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd
 jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
 Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
 Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
 iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
 Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rose, this is fantastic.
 
 Thanks for this resource!
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
 
 I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be
 found

Re: band limit was Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-01-31 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
Pretty sure Rose is right; I think the only way that they can find out
is if you've flashed your baseband to the iPad one. Other than that,
so long as you restore, you should be fine.

You'll only flash your baseband if you want to unlock.

On 31/01/2011, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry, I think my brain is slowiing down again. As long as I what? and I
 read the article but I don't quite understand why apple did what it did and
 what it means. lol!
 On Jan 31, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Rose Morales wrote:

 As far as I know, unless you flash your phone's baseband, you can still
 restore. Apple won't know a thing.
 On Jan 31, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

 and now that apple has implomented a ban something or other, I have to
 dig up the article again, they might know when you jail break as you
 canot restore to older OS's if you mess up or if you phone explosively
 breaks.

 S
 On Jan 31, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:

 I'm sorry to hear that rose. I thought that the serial number method
 was pretty safe? I do know that if the 4th and 5 th digits are between
 40 and 45 it can be hit and miss, but mine are 21. I guess at the
 least, it's an experience.
 I don't like the way that stuff that changes springboard makes the
 phone unbootable though and whilst I don't know for sure, I'm assuming
 that things like 5 icon doc will change it. Also, I don't like the
 idea of safari not working.
 To be fair, your right though, I don't think my phones ever rebooted
 randomly or because of a crash, so perhaps I'm just being paranoid.

 On 31/01/2011, Rose Morales nothingbutl...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've been using a tethered jailbreak since November. My serial
 indicated
 that my 3gS had the old boot rom. In reality, it has the new one. I
 can't go
 back to 4.1 because I didn't save my SHSH blobs, thinking I wouldn't
 need
 them. So I'm stuck running a tethered 4.2.1. It was a mistake, but I
 accepted the risks when I upgraded. The dev team recommended that I
 wait to
 upgrade, but I wanted to experiment.

 At any rate, when I want to reboot, all I do is put my phone in DFU
 mode and
 launch a file. My phone starts rebooting. I've never had to reboot my
 phone
 while out. Since writing the jb guides, I have found out more
 information on
 what a tethered jb entails. I've considered making this information
 part of
 jb101. At any rate, straight from this post,
 http://blog.iphone-dev.org/post/1652053923/thanksgiving-with-apple
 in case there are some who don't feel like reading, here's the
 important
 info.

 Update #2 :  The notion of a “tethered” jailbreak is pretty new to many
 people, so here’s a quick rundown on what to expect:
 1 If you’re on an iPhone3G, old-bootrom iPhone3GS, or non-MC ipt2g,
 life is
 easy. redsn0w installed an untethered jailbreak and so nothing below
 applies.
 2 “Tethered” does not mean you cannot boot at all without PC/Mac
 assistance.
 If you have not installed any tweaks that hook into important programs
 like
 SpringBoard or CommCenter, your device will actually boot. However,
 jailbreak programs like Cydia won’t work (and Cydia may still have a
 white
 icon).  Also, certain built-in apps that had to be moved by Cydia will
 fail
 (Safari being the most noticeable example).
 3 If you’ve installed MobileSubstrate tweaks that hook into SpringBoard
 or
 other important programs, your boot will actually fail (you’ll get
 stuck at
 the Apple logo).  You need to use redsn0w to “Just boot tethered right
 now”.
 End of excerpt.

 For those of you who don't know what MobileSubstrate is, it's a
 dependency
 of Ultrasn0w, the iPhone dev team's unlocking software for iPhones.
 This
 means that you can't install Ultrasn0w without MobileSubstrate. My
 friend,
 who has a locked phone, was able to boot up just fine. I myself do not,
 so I
 cannot reboot without the assistance of my Mac. Most of you guys won't
 have
 that problem.

 On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:16 AM, James Malone wrote:

 Thanks! Yeah, I can't say a tethered Jailbreak would exactly be fun.

 On 1/31/11, Ben Mustill-Rose bmustillr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Pdanet (The hotspot app) is pretty handy to be fair. I'm lucky that
 my
 3gs is old enough that it can work untethered - I don't really like
 the idea of my phone rebooting for what ever reason only to find that
 at best some of the apps won't work or at worst that it won't boot at
 all.

 On 30/01/2011, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I
 would
 nit
 consider jailbreaking.

 On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 That's what I'm reading.

 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd
 jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.

 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:

 Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the
 name
 Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves
 the
 iPhone dev team

Re: band limit was Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-01-31 Thread Sarah Alawami
Ah. I don't want to unlock, not yet, not until my contract is up with  the 
phone. lol! but I have a year and a half of joy wiht my wonderful device.

Thanks.

S
On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:45 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:

 Pretty sure Rose is right; I think the only way that they can find out
 is if you've flashed your baseband to the iPad one. Other than that,
 so long as you restore, you should be fine.
 
 You'll only flash your baseband if you want to unlock.
 
 On 31/01/2011, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry, I think my brain is slowiing down again. As long as I what? and I
 read the article but I don't quite understand why apple did what it did and
 what it means. lol!
 On Jan 31, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Rose Morales wrote:
 
 As far as I know, unless you flash your phone's baseband, you can still
 restore. Apple won't know a thing.
 On Jan 31, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 and now that apple has implomented a ban something or other, I have to
 dig up the article again, they might know when you jail break as you
 canot restore to older OS's if you mess up or if you phone explosively
 breaks.
 
 S
 On Jan 31, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
 I'm sorry to hear that rose. I thought that the serial number method
 was pretty safe? I do know that if the 4th and 5 th digits are between
 40 and 45 it can be hit and miss, but mine are 21. I guess at the
 least, it's an experience.
 I don't like the way that stuff that changes springboard makes the
 phone unbootable though and whilst I don't know for sure, I'm assuming
 that things like 5 icon doc will change it. Also, I don't like the
 idea of safari not working.
 To be fair, your right though, I don't think my phones ever rebooted
 randomly or because of a crash, so perhaps I'm just being paranoid.
 
 On 31/01/2011, Rose Morales nothingbutl...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've been using a tethered jailbreak since November. My serial
 indicated
 that my 3gS had the old boot rom. In reality, it has the new one. I
 can't go
 back to 4.1 because I didn't save my SHSH blobs, thinking I wouldn't
 need
 them. So I'm stuck running a tethered 4.2.1. It was a mistake, but I
 accepted the risks when I upgraded. The dev team recommended that I
 wait to
 upgrade, but I wanted to experiment.
 
 At any rate, when I want to reboot, all I do is put my phone in DFU
 mode and
 launch a file. My phone starts rebooting. I've never had to reboot my
 phone
 while out. Since writing the jb guides, I have found out more
 information on
 what a tethered jb entails. I've considered making this information
 part of
 jb101. At any rate, straight from this post,
 http://blog.iphone-dev.org/post/1652053923/thanksgiving-with-apple
 in case there are some who don't feel like reading, here's the
 important
 info.
 
 Update #2 :  The notion of a “tethered” jailbreak is pretty new to many
 people, so here’s a quick rundown on what to expect:
 1 If you’re on an iPhone3G, old-bootrom iPhone3GS, or non-MC ipt2g,
 life is
 easy. redsn0w installed an untethered jailbreak and so nothing below
 applies.
 2 “Tethered” does not mean you cannot boot at all without PC/Mac
 assistance.
 If you have not installed any tweaks that hook into important programs
 like
 SpringBoard or CommCenter, your device will actually boot. However,
 jailbreak programs like Cydia won’t work (and Cydia may still have a
 white
 icon).  Also, certain built-in apps that had to be moved by Cydia will
 fail
 (Safari being the most noticeable example).
 3 If you’ve installed MobileSubstrate tweaks that hook into SpringBoard
 or
 other important programs, your boot will actually fail (you’ll get
 stuck at
 the Apple logo).  You need to use redsn0w to “Just boot tethered right
 now”.
 End of excerpt.
 
 For those of you who don't know what MobileSubstrate is, it's a
 dependency
 of Ultrasn0w, the iPhone dev team's unlocking software for iPhones.
 This
 means that you can't install Ultrasn0w without MobileSubstrate. My
 friend,
 who has a locked phone, was able to boot up just fine. I myself do not,
 so I
 cannot reboot without the assistance of my Mac. Most of you guys won't
 have
 that problem.
 
 On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:16 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
 Thanks! Yeah, I can't say a tethered Jailbreak would exactly be fun.
 
 On 1/31/11, Ben Mustill-Rose bmustillr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Pdanet (The hotspot app) is pretty handy to be fair. I'm lucky that
 my
 3gs is old enough that it can work untethered - I don't really like
 the idea of my phone rebooting for what ever reason only to find that
 at best some of the apps won't work or at worst that it won't boot at
 all.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I
 would
 nit
 consider jailbreaking.
 
 On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 That's what I'm reading.
 
 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd
 jailbreak would

Re: band limit was Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-01-31 Thread Rose Morales
 that it won't boot at
 all.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I
 would
 nit
 consider jailbreaking.
 
 On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 That's what I'm reading.
 
 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd
 jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
 Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the
 name
 Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves
 the
 iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
 Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rose, this is fantastic.
 
 Thanks for this resource!
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
 
 I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can
 be
 found
 at
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
 and
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
 
 Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version
 designed
 for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy
 after
 you
 jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path
 for jb
 apps,
 also described in jb104.
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
 JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable
 jailbreak
 information.
 Hth,
 Rose
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok
 to
 jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it
 a
 shot
 but
 was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a
 jailbreak
 process
 though.
 
 I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
 
 On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
 Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an
 issue.
 I
 tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover
 doesn't
 seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but
 everything
 seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia.
 Besides,
 Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone
 suggest
 what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some
 sighted
 asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev
 team
 really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
 
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Re: band limit was Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-01-31 Thread Scott Granados
 that it can work untethered - I don't really like
 the idea of my phone rebooting for what ever reason only to find that
 at best some of the apps won't work or at worst that it won't boot at
 all.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I
 would
 nit
 consider jailbreaking.
 
 On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 That's what I'm reading.
 
 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd
 jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
 Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the
 name
 Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves
 the
 iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
 Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rose, this is fantastic.
 
 Thanks for this resource!
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
 
 I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can
 be
 found
 at
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
 and
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
 
 Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version
 designed
 for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy
 after
 you
 jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path
 for jb
 apps,
 also described in jb104.
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
 JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable
 jailbreak
 information.
 Hth,
 Rose
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok
 to
 jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it
 a
 shot
 but
 was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a
 jailbreak
 process
 though.
 
 I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
 
 On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
 Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an
 issue.
 I
 tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover
 doesn't
 seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but
 everything
 seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia.
 Besides,
 Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone
 suggest
 what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some
 sighted
 asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev
 team
 really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
 
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Re: band limit was Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-01-31 Thread Sarah Alawami
.
 
 On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:16 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
 Thanks! Yeah, I can't say a tethered Jailbreak would exactly be fun.
 
 On 1/31/11, Ben Mustill-Rose bmustillr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Pdanet (The hotspot app) is pretty handy to be fair. I'm lucky that
 my
 3gs is old enough that it can work untethered - I don't really like
 the idea of my phone rebooting for what ever reason only to find 
 that
 at best some of the apps won't work or at worst that it won't boot 
 at
 all.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I
 would
 nit
 consider jailbreaking.
 
 On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 That's what I'm reading.
 
 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason 
 I'd
 jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
 Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the
 name
 Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call 
 themselves
 the
 iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
 Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rose, this is fantastic.
 
 Thanks for this resource!
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
 
 I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can
 be
 found
 at
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
 and
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
 
 Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version
 designed
 for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy
 after
 you
 jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path
 for jb
 apps,
 also described in jb104.
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
 JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable
 jailbreak
 information.
 Hth,
 Rose
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you 
 tok
 to
 jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it
 a
 shot
 but
 was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a
 jailbreak
 process
 though.
 
 I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
 
 On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
 Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an
 issue.
 I
 tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover
 doesn't
 seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but
 everything
 seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia.
 Besides,
 Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can 
 anyone
 suggest
 what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some
 sighted
 asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple 
 Dev
 team
 really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
 
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Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-01-30 Thread Scott Granados
Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to jailbreak.  
Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a shot but was talked out of 
it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak process though.

I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.

On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:

 Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an issue. I tried 
 to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover doesn't seem to like 
 it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but everything seems to point in 
 the direction of downloading it with Cidia. Besides, Icy isn't being made 
 anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone suggest what I should do? If worse 
 comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted asistance. But still, something that 
 was made by the apple Dev team really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks 
 guys.
 
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Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-01-30 Thread Rose Morales
I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be found at
http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
and
http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2

Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version designed for OS 
4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after you jailbreak, copy 
the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb apps, also described in 
jb104.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable jailbreak 
information.
Hth,
Rose
On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

 Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to jailbreak. 
  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a shot but was talked out 
 of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak process though.
 
 I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
 
 On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
 Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an issue. I tried 
 to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover doesn't seem to like 
 it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but everything seems to point in 
 the direction of downloading it with Cidia. Besides, Icy isn't being made 
 anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone suggest what I should do? If worse 
 comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted asistance. But still, something that 
 was made by the apple Dev team really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks 
 guys.
 
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Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-01-30 Thread Scott Granados
Rose, this is fantastic.

Thanks for this resource!

On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:

 I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be found at
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
 and
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
 
 Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version designed for 
 OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after you jailbreak, 
 copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb apps, also 
 described in jb104.
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
 JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable jailbreak 
 information.
 Hth,
 Rose
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to 
 jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a shot but 
 was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak process 
 though.
 
 I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
 
 On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
 Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an issue. I tried 
 to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover doesn't seem to 
 like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but everything seems to 
 point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. Besides, Icy isn't 
 being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone suggest what I should 
 do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted asistance. But still, 
 something that was made by the apple Dev team really should be accessible. 
 Anyway, thanks guys.
 
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Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-01-30 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.

On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rose, this is fantastic.

 Thanks for this resource!

 On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:

 I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be found
 at
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
 and
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2

 Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version designed
 for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after you
 jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb apps,
 also described in jb104.
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
 JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable jailbreak
 information.
 Hth,
 Rose
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

 Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
 jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a shot but
 was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak process
 though.

 I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.

 On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:

 Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an issue. I
 tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover doesn't
 seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but everything
 seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. Besides,
 Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone suggest
 what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted
 asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev team
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Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-01-30 Thread Scott Granados
That's what I'm reading.

Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd jailbreak 
would be to have a WiFi hotspot.

On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:

 Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
 Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
 iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
 Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rose, this is fantastic.
 
 Thanks for this resource!
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
 
 I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be found
 at
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
 and
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
 
 Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version designed
 for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after you
 jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb apps,
 also described in jb104.
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
 JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable jailbreak
 information.
 Hth,
 Rose
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
 jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a shot but
 was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak process
 though.
 
 I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
 
 On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
 Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an issue. I
 tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover doesn't
 seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but everything
 seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. Besides,
 Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone suggest
 what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted
 asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev team
 really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
 
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Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-01-30 Thread Sarah Alawami
If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would nit 
consider jailbreaking. 

On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:

 That's what I'm reading.
 
 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd jailbreak 
 would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
 Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
 Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
 iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
 Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rose, this is fantastic.
 
 Thanks for this resource!
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
 
 I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be found
 at
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
 and
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
 
 Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version designed
 for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after you
 jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb apps,
 also described in jb104.
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
 JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable jailbreak
 information.
 Hth,
 Rose
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
 jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a shot but
 was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak process
 though.
 
 I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
 
 On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
 Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an issue. I
 tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover doesn't
 seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but everything
 seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. Besides,
 Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone suggest
 what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted
 asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev team
 really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
 
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Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-01-30 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
Pdanet (The hotspot app) is pretty handy to be fair. I'm lucky that my
3gs is old enough that it can work untethered - I don't really like
the idea of my phone rebooting for what ever reason only to find that
at best some of the apps won't work or at worst that it won't boot at
all.

On 30/01/2011, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would nit
 consider jailbreaking.

 On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:

 That's what I'm reading.

 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd
 jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.

 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:

 Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
 Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
 iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
 Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.

 On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rose, this is fantastic.

 Thanks for this resource!

 On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:

 I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be
 found
 at
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
 and
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2

 Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version designed
 for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after you
 jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb
 apps,
 also described in jb104.
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
 JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable
 jailbreak
 information.
 Hth,
 Rose
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

 Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
 jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a shot
 but
 was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak
 process
 though.

 I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.

 On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:

 Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an issue. I
 tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover doesn't
 seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but
 everything
 seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia.
 Besides,
 Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone
 suggest
 what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted
 asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev team
 really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.

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Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-01-30 Thread Sarah Alawami
That's true, but if the companies would include teathing with the data plan I 
can stream live where ever I am, or check my email while in the car.

S
On Jan 30, 2011, at 2:18 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:

 Pdanet (The hotspot app) is pretty handy to be fair. I'm lucky that my
 3gs is old enough that it can work untethered - I don't really like
 the idea of my phone rebooting for what ever reason only to find that
 at best some of the apps won't work or at worst that it won't boot at
 all.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would nit
 consider jailbreaking.
 
 On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 That's what I'm reading.
 
 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd
 jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
 Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
 Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
 iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
 Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rose, this is fantastic.
 
 Thanks for this resource!
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
 
 I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be
 found
 at
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
 and
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
 
 Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version designed
 for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after you
 jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb
 apps,
 also described in jb104.
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
 JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable
 jailbreak
 information.
 Hth,
 Rose
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
 jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a shot
 but
 was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak
 process
 though.
 
 I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
 
 On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
 Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an issue. I
 tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover doesn't
 seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but
 everything
 seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia.
 Besides,
 Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone
 suggest
 what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted
 asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev team
 really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
 
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Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-01-30 Thread James Malone
Thanks! Yeah, I can't say a tethered Jailbreak would exactly be fun.

On 1/31/11, Ben Mustill-Rose bmustillr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Pdanet (The hotspot app) is pretty handy to be fair. I'm lucky that my
 3gs is old enough that it can work untethered - I don't really like
 the idea of my phone rebooting for what ever reason only to find that
 at best some of the apps won't work or at worst that it won't boot at
 all.

 On 30/01/2011, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would
 nit
 consider jailbreaking.

 On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:

 That's what I'm reading.

 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd
 jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.

 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:

 Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
 Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
 iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
 Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.

 On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rose, this is fantastic.

 Thanks for this resource!

 On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:

 I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be
 found
 at
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
 and
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2

 Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version
 designed
 for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after you
 jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb
 apps,
 also described in jb104.
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
 JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable
 jailbreak
 information.
 Hth,
 Rose
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

 Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
 jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a shot
 but
 was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak
 process
 though.

 I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.

 On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:

 Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an issue.
 I
 tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover
 doesn't
 seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but
 everything
 seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia.
 Besides,
 Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone
 suggest
 what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted
 asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev team
 really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.

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Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-01-29 Thread James Malone
Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an issue. I tried to 
start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover doesn't seem to like it. 
Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but everything seems to point in the 
direction of downloading it with Cidia. Besides, Icy isn't being made anymore 
either, so I've heard. Can anyone suggest what I should do? If worse comes to 
worsed, I'll grab some sighted asistance. But still, something that was made by 
the apple Dev team really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.

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Re: jailbreaking?

2010-12-11 Thread heather kd5cbl
yes, my friend did this with her apple 3 to use with sprint.  So I really am 
not that techical to know how she did this!  Heather
- Original Message - 
From: Jonathan Cohn jon.c.c...@gmail.com
To: Ben Mustill-Rose bmustillr...@gmail.com; 
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 11:45 AM
Subject: RE: jailbreaking?



Ok, you have me drooling like my guide while measuring his supper.
Stuck on my tp phone, unless I get ajob at ATt.

Jon

Sent from my Windows Mobile phone

From: Ben Mustill-Rose bmustillr...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 9:33 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: jailbreaking?
I personaly wouldn't have jailbroken my 3gs if it was a tethered
jailbreak. I don't like the idea of my phone becoming useless while
I'm away from a computer.

Some cool things I've been doing with jailbroken apps:
Turn your iPhone into a wireless hotspot with pdaNet.
Use 5 icon doc to put 5 icons onto your doc.
Use fullscreen safari to have a full screen browser.
Use pwnTunes to drag and drop music onto your device or wifiSync to
sync wirelessly.
And for the more geeky amongst us, theres always open ssh.

On 11/12/2010, tim mrga...@gmail.com wrote:

Ok, you can jail break any IOS device thanks to the FCC.
Now for the bad news. Some iPhones like version4 need the base code.. You
will have to google that, but it is out there.
To use the one I am giving here you will need to use a PC and teather the
device .
You need the IOS
4.2.1 for you device.
You can get that download here,
http://www.felixburns.de/iPod/firmware/
Also this file ran under windows,
http://www.sendspace.comfile/tyb9jo
Now there are some draw backs to this and no cydia is not useable with
voiceover. So will need sight to use that app. And all new versions4 
devices

can not be turned off or the will have to be broke teatherd again.
But, if your like me, I hardly turn mine off anyway.
For more info or help. You can skipe me at t_morris

On Dec 10, 2010, at 5:05 PM, heather kd5cbl wrote:


I thought apple was cracking down on jailbraking especially with the
eyephones!  Heather
- Original Message - From: brandt brandt.steenk...@gmail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: jailbreaking?


Why is the discussion of jailbreaking avoided on this list? It, 
afterall

is legal.

Regards,

Brandt Steenkamp

MSN/Windows live: brandt...@live.com

Google talk: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com

AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com

Skype: brandt.steenkamp007
- Original Message - From: Kevin Mattingly
kdmattin...@gmail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: jailbreaking?


You're on your own there. This list avoids any discussion on that 
topic.

If you want info, you may be able to get some off list from folks.

Kev
On Dec 10, 2010, at 12:38 PM, Hypnotic Consulting wrote:


Anyone have any experience with jailbreaking an i-device?
The one article I read didn't really enlighten me, so I'll have to 
look

again.
But primarily, I'm wanting to make sure it won't interfere with vo.
Thanks
Jorge

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Re: jailbreaking?

2010-12-11 Thread Rose Morales
WHoa whoa whoa! SOme of your responses to the original jailbreak question are 
killing me here! I have done three successful jailbreaks of a 3gS. I use Cydia 
accessibly, and I have my phone running on t-mobile. I enjoy using quite a few 
jb apps, and I've even got a few themes and ringtones from the jb app store. 
You can read more about all of this on applevis.com. My introduction to 
jailbreaking guide can be found here.
http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective

I hope this guide will clear up any misconceptions floating around about 
jailbreaking. It's very thorough. If you have anymore questions, please feel 
free to write me off-list or reply here.
Thanks,
Rose

On Dec 11, 2010, at 1:14 PM, heather kd5cbl wrote:

 yes, my friend did this with her apple 3 to use with sprint.  So I really am 
 not that techical to know how she did this!  Heather
 - Original Message - From: Jonathan Cohn jon.c.c...@gmail.com
 To: Ben Mustill-Rose bmustillr...@gmail.com; 
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 11:45 AM
 Subject: RE: jailbreaking?
 
 
 Ok, you have me drooling like my guide while measuring his supper.
 Stuck on my tp phone, unless I get ajob at ATt.
 
 Jon
 
 Sent from my Windows Mobile phone
 
 From: Ben Mustill-Rose bmustillr...@gmail.com
 Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 9:33 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: jailbreaking?
 I personaly wouldn't have jailbroken my 3gs if it was a tethered
 jailbreak. I don't like the idea of my phone becoming useless while
 I'm away from a computer.
 
 Some cool things I've been doing with jailbroken apps:
 Turn your iPhone into a wireless hotspot with pdaNet.
 Use 5 icon doc to put 5 icons onto your doc.
 Use fullscreen safari to have a full screen browser.
 Use pwnTunes to drag and drop music onto your device or wifiSync to
 sync wirelessly.
 And for the more geeky amongst us, theres always open ssh.
 
 On 11/12/2010, tim mrga...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ok, you can jail break any IOS device thanks to the FCC.
 Now for the bad news. Some iPhones like version4 need the base code.. You
 will have to google that, but it is out there.
 To use the one I am giving here you will need to use a PC and teather the
 device .
 You need the IOS
 4.2.1 for you device.
 You can get that download here,
 http://www.felixburns.de/iPod/firmware/
 Also this file ran under windows,
 http://www.sendspace.comfile/tyb9jo
 Now there are some draw backs to this and no cydia is not useable with
 voiceover. So will need sight to use that app. And all new versions4 devices
 can not be turned off or the will have to be broke teatherd again.
 But, if your like me, I hardly turn mine off anyway.
 For more info or help. You can skipe me at t_morris
 
 On Dec 10, 2010, at 5:05 PM, heather kd5cbl wrote:
 
 I thought apple was cracking down on jailbraking especially with the
 eyephones!  Heather
 - Original Message - From: brandt brandt.steenk...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 12:33 PM
 Subject: Re: jailbreaking?
 
 
 Why is the discussion of jailbreaking avoided on this list? It, afterall
 is legal.
 
 Regards,
 
 Brandt Steenkamp
 
 MSN/Windows live: brandt...@live.com
 
 Google talk: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com
 
 AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com
 
 Skype: brandt.steenkamp007
 - Original Message - From: Kevin Mattingly
 kdmattin...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 7:45 PM
 Subject: Re: jailbreaking?
 
 
 You're on your own there. This list avoids any discussion on that topic.
 If you want info, you may be able to get some off list from folks.
 
 Kev
 On Dec 10, 2010, at 12:38 PM, Hypnotic Consulting wrote:
 
 Anyone have any experience with jailbreaking an i-device?
 The one article I read didn't really enlighten me, so I'll have to look
 again.
 But primarily, I'm wanting to make sure it won't interfere with vo.
 Thanks
 Jorge
 
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jailbreaking?

2010-12-10 Thread Hypnotic Consulting

Anyone have any experience with jailbreaking an i-device?
The one article I read didn't really enlighten me, so I'll have to look 
again.

But primarily, I'm wanting to make sure it won't interfere with vo.
Thanks
Jorge

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Re: jailbreaking?

2010-12-10 Thread Kevin Mattingly
You're on your own there. This list avoids any discussion on that topic. If you 
want info, you may be able to get some off list from folks.

Kev
On Dec 10, 2010, at 12:38 PM, Hypnotic Consulting wrote:

 Anyone have any experience with jailbreaking an i-device?
 The one article I read didn't really enlighten me, so I'll have to look again.
 But primarily, I'm wanting to make sure it won't interfere with vo.
 Thanks
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Re: jailbreaking?

2010-12-10 Thread Jim Barbour
The quick and dirty answer is that jailbreaking won't interfere
with how VO works with your existing (i.e non jailbroken) apps.

However, many jailbroken apps will not work with voiceover.  So, as a
voiceover user, you can successfully jailbreak your phone and continue
to use it.  However, there will be roadblocks to using many jailbroken
apps.

Others shoudl chime in with their experiences with jailbroken apps
that are accessible. I've seen a few of them posted here.

Jim

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Re: jailbreaking?

2010-12-10 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
I'd echo what Jim has said. There are quite a few apps that you can
download that are accessible, but since there are so many apps
floating around, it's probably best that you tell us what you are
wanting to do then we can advise you.

Bare in mind that the steps for jailbreaking are going to vairy based
on the device that you own.

On 10/12/2010, Jim Barbour j...@barcore.com wrote:
 The quick and dirty answer is that jailbreaking won't interfere
 with how VO works with your existing (i.e non jailbroken) apps.

 However, many jailbroken apps will not work with voiceover.  So, as a
 voiceover user, you can successfully jailbreak your phone and continue
 to use it.  However, there will be roadblocks to using many jailbroken
 apps.

 Others shoudl chime in with their experiences with jailbroken apps
 that are accessible. I've seen a few of them posted here.

 Jim

 On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 11:38:33AM -0600, Hypnotic Consulting wrote:
 Anyone have any experience with jailbreaking an i-device?
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 But primarily, I'm wanting to make sure it won't interfere with vo.
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Re: jailbreaking?

2010-12-10 Thread brandt
Why is the discussion of jailbreaking avoided on this list? It, afterall is 
legal.


Regards,

Brandt Steenkamp

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- Original Message - 
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: jailbreaking?


You're on your own there. This list avoids any discussion on that topic. 
If you want info, you may be able to get some off list from folks.


Kev
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Anyone have any experience with jailbreaking an i-device?
The one article I read didn't really enlighten me, so I'll have to look 
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But primarily, I'm wanting to make sure it won't interfere with vo.
Thanks
Jorge

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Re: jailbreaking?

2010-12-10 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
It's not avoided. Kev contributes greatly to this list but in this
situation he is mistakened.

On 10/12/2010, brandt brandt.steenk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Why is the discussion of jailbreaking avoided on this list? It, afterall is
 legal.

 Regards,

 Brandt Steenkamp

 MSN/Windows live: brandt...@live.com

 Google talk: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com

 AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com

 Skype: brandt.steenkamp007
 - Original Message -
 From: Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 7:45 PM
 Subject: Re: jailbreaking?


 You're on your own there. This list avoids any discussion on that topic.
 If you want info, you may be able to get some off list from folks.

 Kev
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Re: jailbreaking?

2010-12-10 Thread Kevin Mattingly
If I'm wrong on that one, I'm sorry. I thought I'd seen earlier threads that 
were kind of pushed back on.

Good luck,
Kev
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 It's not avoided. Kev contributes greatly to this list but in this
 situation he is mistakened.
 
 On 10/12/2010, brandt brandt.steenk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Why is the discussion of jailbreaking avoided on this list? It, afterall is
 legal.
 
 Regards,
 
 Brandt Steenkamp
 
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 AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com
 
 Skype: brandt.steenkamp007
 - Original Message -
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 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 7:45 PM
 Subject: Re: jailbreaking?
 
 
 You're on your own there. This list avoids any discussion on that topic.
 If you want info, you may be able to get some off list from folks.
 
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Re: jailbreaking?

2010-12-10 Thread Scott Granados
Why should that be off topic?

Jailbreaking should be fine, especially since there provisions of some of the 
new FCC regulations that allow for breaking of cryptography and protections for 
the disabled to access media.

On a more general basis though, I bought the phone, if I want to jailbreak it, 
make it a paper weight or hold up my fish tank with it I will.  Screw the 
manufacturor, they sold it to me thus the ownership rights transfer.  
Possession is 9/10ths of the law and all that.

On Dec 10, 2010, at 9:45 AM, Kevin Mattingly wrote:

 You're on your own there. This list avoids any discussion on that topic. If 
 you want info, you may be able to get some off list from folks.
 
 Kev
 On Dec 10, 2010, at 12:38 PM, Hypnotic Consulting wrote:
 
 Anyone have any experience with jailbreaking an i-device?
 The one article I read didn't really enlighten me, so I'll have to look 
 again.
 But primarily, I'm wanting to make sure it won't interfere with vo.
 Thanks
 Jorge
 
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Re: jailbreaking?

2010-12-10 Thread Kevin Mattingly
OK, once again, I'm pulling my foot out my mouth. Anyone can do anything with 
an apple device as long as it is done legally. The better thing to say is that 
you jail break it at your own risk. Apple or any other manufacturer may decide 
that you've voided your warranty. 

Have fun and good luck,
Kev
On Dec 10, 2010, at 2:40 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

 Why should that be off topic?
 
 Jailbreaking should be fine, especially since there provisions of some of the 
 new FCC regulations that allow for breaking of cryptography and protections 
 for the disabled to access media.
 
 On a more general basis though, I bought the phone, if I want to jailbreak 
 it, make it a paper weight or hold up my fish tank with it I will.  Screw the 
 manufacturor, they sold it to me thus the ownership rights transfer.  
 Possession is 9/10ths of the law and all that.
 
 On Dec 10, 2010, at 9:45 AM, Kevin Mattingly wrote:
 
 You're on your own there. This list avoids any discussion on that topic. If 
 you want info, you may be able to get some off list from folks.
 
 Kev
 On Dec 10, 2010, at 12:38 PM, Hypnotic Consulting wrote:
 
 Anyone have any experience with jailbreaking an i-device?
 The one article I read didn't really enlighten me, so I'll have to look 
 again.
 But primarily, I'm wanting to make sure it won't interfere with vo.
 Thanks
 Jorge
 
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Re: jailbreaking?

2010-12-10 Thread Scott Granados
Kev, I saw that explaination later on, makes sense.  I think you were partly 
right in that I think someone asked the questions and we warned them to be 
careful and the thread sort of died but I didn't see how it would be against 
the rules of the list.  SO no worries, I'm on the same page as you now.:)


On Dec 10, 2010, at 11:57 AM, Kevin Mattingly wrote:

 OK, once again, I'm pulling my foot out my mouth. Anyone can do anything with 
 an apple device as long as it is done legally. The better thing to say is 
 that you jail break it at your own risk. Apple or any other manufacturer may 
 decide that you've voided your warranty. 
 
 Have fun and good luck,
 Kev
 On Dec 10, 2010, at 2:40 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Why should that be off topic?
 
 Jailbreaking should be fine, especially since there provisions of some of 
 the new FCC regulations that allow for breaking of cryptography and 
 protections for the disabled to access media.
 
 On a more general basis though, I bought the phone, if I want to jailbreak 
 it, make it a paper weight or hold up my fish tank with it I will.  Screw 
 the manufacturor, they sold it to me thus the ownership rights transfer.  
 Possession is 9/10ths of the law and all that.
 
 On Dec 10, 2010, at 9:45 AM, Kevin Mattingly wrote:
 
 You're on your own there. This list avoids any discussion on that topic. If 
 you want info, you may be able to get some off list from folks.
 
 Kev
 On Dec 10, 2010, at 12:38 PM, Hypnotic Consulting wrote:
 
 Anyone have any experience with jailbreaking an i-device?
 The one article I read didn't really enlighten me, so I'll have to look 
 again.
 But primarily, I'm wanting to make sure it won't interfere with vo.
 Thanks
 Jorge
 
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Re: jailbreaking?

2010-12-10 Thread heather kd5cbl
I thought apple was cracking down on jailbraking especially with the 
eyephones!  Heather
- Original Message - 
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: jailbreaking?


Why is the discussion of jailbreaking avoided on this list? It, afterall 
is legal.


Regards,

Brandt Steenkamp

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Skype: brandt.steenkamp007
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Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: jailbreaking?


You're on your own there. This list avoids any discussion on that topic. 
If you want info, you may be able to get some off list from folks.


Kev
On Dec 10, 2010, at 12:38 PM, Hypnotic Consulting wrote:


Anyone have any experience with jailbreaking an i-device?
The one article I read didn't really enlighten me, so I'll have to look 
again.

But primarily, I'm wanting to make sure it won't interfere with vo.
Thanks
Jorge

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Re: jailbreaking?

2010-12-10 Thread Scott Granados
How would they know?

On Dec 10, 2010, at 2:05 PM, heather kd5cbl wrote:

 I thought apple was cracking down on jailbraking especially with the 
 eyephones!  Heather
 - Original Message - From: brandt brandt.steenk...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 12:33 PM
 Subject: Re: jailbreaking?
 
 
 Why is the discussion of jailbreaking avoided on this list? It, afterall is 
 legal.
 
 Regards,
 
 Brandt Steenkamp
 
 MSN/Windows live: brandt...@live.com
 
 Google talk: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com
 
 AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com
 
 Skype: brandt.steenkamp007
 - Original Message - From: Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 7:45 PM
 Subject: Re: jailbreaking?
 
 
 You're on your own there. This list avoids any discussion on that topic. If 
 you want info, you may be able to get some off list from folks.
 
 Kev
 On Dec 10, 2010, at 12:38 PM, Hypnotic Consulting wrote:
 
 Anyone have any experience with jailbreaking an i-device?
 The one article I read didn't really enlighten me, so I'll have to look 
 again.
 But primarily, I'm wanting to make sure it won't interfere with vo.
 Thanks
 Jorge
 
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Re: jailbreaking?

2010-12-10 Thread tim
Ok, you can jail break any IOS device thanks to the FCC.
Now for the bad news. Some iPhones like version4 need the base code.. You will 
have to google that, but it is out there.
To use the one I am giving here you will need to use a PC and teather the 
device .
You need the IOS 
4.2.1 for you device.
You can get that download here,
http://www.felixburns.de/iPod/firmware/
Also this file ran under windows,
http://www.sendspace.comfile/tyb9jo
Now there are some draw backs to this and no cydia is not useable with 
voiceover. So will need sight to use that app. And all new versions4 devices 
can not be turned off or the will have to be broke teatherd again.
But, if your like me, I hardly turn mine off anyway.
For more info or help. You can skipe me at t_morris

On Dec 10, 2010, at 5:05 PM, heather kd5cbl wrote:

 I thought apple was cracking down on jailbraking especially with the 
 eyephones!  Heather
 - Original Message - From: brandt brandt.steenk...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 12:33 PM
 Subject: Re: jailbreaking?
 
 
 Why is the discussion of jailbreaking avoided on this list? It, afterall is 
 legal.
 
 Regards,
 
 Brandt Steenkamp
 
 MSN/Windows live: brandt...@live.com
 
 Google talk: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com
 
 AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com
 
 Skype: brandt.steenkamp007
 - Original Message - From: Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 7:45 PM
 Subject: Re: jailbreaking?
 
 
 You're on your own there. This list avoids any discussion on that topic. If 
 you want info, you may be able to get some off list from folks.
 
 Kev
 On Dec 10, 2010, at 12:38 PM, Hypnotic Consulting wrote:
 
 Anyone have any experience with jailbreaking an i-device?
 The one article I read didn't really enlighten me, so I'll have to look 
 again.
 But primarily, I'm wanting to make sure it won't interfere with vo.
 Thanks
 Jorge
 
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Re: Jailbreaking your IPhone?

2010-01-04 Thread Chris Blouch
That's the problem with most of the 3rd party audio apps like Pandora 
and AOL Radio. If you need/want to do something else for a moment the 
audio stops. The iPod function of the phone has dedicated hardware so 
it's not a drain on the main CPU to keep decoding audio but other audio 
apps don't have that luxury.

CB

Brent Harding wrote:
 I'm surprised Apple hasn't made it so stuff can go in the background. That's 
 how they eliminate the troubles voip creates because you can't, from what I 
 understood, run something like Skype while you run other stuff, meaning that 
 unless you used the device as a voip phone only in the case of the IPod 
 touch, you won't receive calls that way.

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 Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 8:50 AM
 Subject: Re: Jailbreaking your IPhone?


 Hey Jake,

 Terrific post!

 As I wrote yesterday on the definition of hacker, I said that a program like 
 JailBreak was likely written by a very talented programmer or team thereof. 
 I also said that programs like it and others can cause some stability 
 problems and, while I forgot to mention them, accessibility problems as 
 well.

 Knowing which app is running is essential to a program like VO.  If you can 
 put programs into the background using undocumented procedures, you will 
 likely break a ton of the assumptions that VO makes about the world in which 
 it lives.

 cdh

 On Dec 31, 2009, at 6:01 AM, Jake wrote:

   
 Hi
 I've not jailbroken mine but I helped set up a friend's iPhone that
 came jailbroken and unlocked. My observation is that, unless you want
 to unlock your iPhone (i.e. enable it to take sim cards from any
 carrier) then it's not worth doing. A good majority of the apps,
 including the jailbroken app manager Sidea, are not accessible in the
 slightest as they are not written using the iPhone's native toolkit.
 Remember that a good majority of these apps would never be approved
 for that reason alone, let alone anything else they might do. Further,
 certain things you can install such as custom icons and background
 apps and the like can really screw with Voiceover. The phone I helped
 with came with backgrounder installed which is an app that can force
 any other app into the background without closing it. However, the
 custom icon badges backgrounder used to tell you which apps were
 backgrounded rendered status information under the icon useless with
 Voiceover. For example, instead of hearing Mail, 1 new message you
 heard something similar to this (the number varied) mail,
 wb_badge_label 0x2d4a883 new message. It essentially rendered a quick
 glance at any icon that has an accompanying badge to show new items
 useless, and that includes the phone app with missed calls showing.
 In addition to all that, of course, it does void your warranty. My
 advice: don't bother.

 Jess wrote:
 
 Hi all IPhone users,

 Have any of you jailbroken your IPhone? If so, did it impact VoiceOver at 
 all? Did it cause your IPhone to become a brick? What are the benefits of 
 Jailbreaking?
 Jess
   
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