Re: Turing off preview in Catalina Mail problem

[Christian]

Hello,

No, I did not but when I selected this the problem was gone. Thanks so much for 
that tip! Now it is as it should, at least as how I want it to.
Many thanks,
Christian

> 23 dec. 2019 kl. 02:22 skrev Barry Hadder :
> 
> Do you have "use column layout" selected in the view menu?
> 
> 
>> On Dec 21, 2019, at 13:05, Christian > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I have turned off preview in mail, but VoiceOver keeps reading the message 
>> content, but it is not shown on my braille display. This happens in the 
>> message list. Has anyone else experienced this?
>> Best regards,
>> Christian
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Re: Turing off preview in Catalina Mail problem

[Barry Hadder]

Do you have "use column layout" selected in the view menu?


> On Dec 21, 2019, at 13:05, Christian  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> 
> I have turned off preview in mail, but VoiceOver keeps reading the message 
> content, but it is not shown on my braille display. This happens in the 
> message list. Has anyone else experienced this?
> Best regards,
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Re: Turing off preview in Catalina Mail problem

[Brad Snyder]

I am running macOS 10.15.2 Catalina, and I am not experiencing this issue.
Have you gone into Mail preferences, selected the Viewing tab, and set List 
Preview to None??

- Brad -




On Dec 22, 2019, at 17:28, Christian  wrote:

Hi,

I have written a message to Apple accessibility regarding this matter, since 
everything that relates to preview is disabled on my side. No message preview 
is showing up on the screen, so this must be related to VO itself. This did not 
happen to me in previous version of OS X.
Many thanks,
Christian

> 22 dec. 2019 kl. 21:34 skrev matthew dyer  >:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am wondering if this is a bug in vo? I run into the same problem. THANKS.
> 
> On Dec 21, 2019 5:49 PM, Christian  > wrote:
> Hi Jeff,
> 
> I have already set it to 100, but VoiceOver still speaks the message content 
> in the message list in Catalina Mail.
> Many thanks,
> Christian
> 
> 21 dec. 2019 kl. 20:07 skrev Jeff Berwick  >:
> 
> I experienced it as well and solved it by setting the horizontal scroll bar 
> to 100%.  It is the next item past the message list.
> 
> Hth,
> Jeff
> 
> 
> On Dec 21, 2019, at 2:05 PM, Christian  > wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I have turned off preview in mail, but VoiceOver keeps reading the message 
> content, but it is not shown on my braille display. This happens in the 
> message list. Has anyone else experienced this?
> Best regards,
> Christian
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Re: Turing off preview in Catalina Mail problem

[Christian]

Hi,

I have written a message to Apple accessibility regarding this matter, since 
everything that relates to preview is disabled on my side. No message preview 
is showing up on the screen, so this must be related to VO itself. This did not 
happen to me in previous version of OS X.
Many thanks,
Christian

> 22 dec. 2019 kl. 21:34 skrev matthew dyer :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am wondering if this is a bug in vo? I run into the same problem. THANKS.
> 
> On Dec 21, 2019 5:49 PM, Christian  wrote:
> Hi Jeff,
> 
> I have already set it to 100, but VoiceOver still speaks the message content 
> in the message list in Catalina Mail.
> Many thanks,
> Christian
> 
> 21 dec. 2019 kl. 20:07 skrev Jeff Berwick  >:
> 
> I experienced it as well and solved it by setting the horizontal scroll bar 
> to 100%.  It is the next item past the message list.
> 
> Hth,
> Jeff
> 
> 
> On Dec 21, 2019, at 2:05 PM, Christian  > wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I have turned off preview in mail, but VoiceOver keeps reading the message 
> content, but it is not shown on my braille display. This happens in the 
> message list. Has anyone else experienced this?
> Best regards,
> Christian
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Re: Turing off preview in Catalina Mail problem

[matthew dyer]

Hi,

I am wondering if this is a bug in vo? I run into the same problem. THANKS.

On Dec 21, 2019 5:49 PM, Christian  wrote:
Hi Jeff,

I have already set it to 100, but VoiceOver still speaks the message content in 
the message list in Catalina Mail.
Many thanks,
Christian

21 dec. 2019 kl. 20:07 skrev Jeff Berwick 
mailto:mailingli...@berwick.name>>:

I experienced it as well and solved it by setting the horizontal scroll bar to 
100%.  It is the next item past the message list.

Hth,
Jeff


On Dec 21, 2019, at 2:05 PM, Christian 
mailto:christia...@runbox.com>> wrote:

Hi all,

I have turned off preview in mail, but VoiceOver keeps reading the message 
content, but it is not shown on my braille display. This happens in the message 
list. Has anyone else experienced this?
Best regards,
Christian

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RE: Turing off preview in Catalina Mail problem

[M. Taylor]

Hello Again,

I forgot to answer your question, directly.  I am experiencing the same problem 
with my Braille Display not showing the Message preview.  

I will send a bug report to Apple regarding this.  

I apologize for not answering your question in my previous post to this thread.

Mark

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Christian
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2019 11:05 AM
To: MacVisionaries
Subject: Turing off preview in Catalina Mail problem

Hi all,

I have turned off preview in mail, but VoiceOver keeps reading the message 
content, but it is not shown on my braille display. This happens in the message 
list. Has anyone else experienced this?
Best regards,
Christian
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RE: Turing off preview in Catalina Mail problem

[M. Taylor]

Hello Christian,

While I understand your request, I must tell you that I and others that I know 
of, strongly pushed Apple to implement this feature so as to cut down on the 
number of keystrokes necessary to read mail.

Just an F Y I.

Perhaps this should be a toggle but, quite frankly, I think this is one of the 
best features of the Mac mail client as it more closely reflects the behavior 
of sighted users; this is to say, the preview pain is displayed, regardless of 
the number of lines selected.  Obviously, as VoiceOver users, our needs may 
vary from those of sighted users but, speaking only for myself, I absolutely 
love the fact that messages are automatically read.

Just my opinion, of course.

Mark

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Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2019 2:49 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Turing off preview in Catalina Mail problem

Hi Jeff,

I have already set it to 100, but VoiceOver still speaks the message content in 
the message list in Catalina Mail.
Many thanks,
Christian


21 dec. 2019 kl. 20:07 skrev Jeff Berwick :

I experienced it as well and solved it by setting the horizontal scroll bar to 
100%.  It is the next item past the message list.

Hth,
Jeff



On Dec 21, 2019, at 2:05 PM, Christian  wrote:

Hi all,

I have turned off preview in mail, but VoiceOver keeps reading the message 
content, but it is not shown on my braille display. This happens in the message 
list. Has anyone else experienced this?
Best regards,
Christian

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Re: Turing off preview in Catalina Mail problem

[Brad Snyder]

I don’t use a braille display, but thought this may resolve your issue:

1. Open Mail preferences, and from the Toolbar, select Viewing.
2.  Navigate to List Preview, and make sure that None is selected from the 
Pop-Up button.

HTH

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On Dec 21, 2019, at 16:49, Christian  wrote:

Hi Jeff,

I have already set it to 100, but VoiceOver still speaks the message content in 
the message list in Catalina Mail.
Many thanks,
Christian

> 21 dec. 2019 kl. 20:07 skrev Jeff Berwick  >:
> 
> I experienced it as well and solved it by setting the horizontal scroll bar 
> to 100%.  It is the next item past the message list.
> 
> Hth,
> Jeff
> 
> 
>> On Dec 21, 2019, at 2:05 PM, Christian > > wrote:
>> 
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>> 
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>> content, but it is not shown on my braille display. This happens in the 
>> message list. Has anyone else experienced this?
>> Best regards,
>> Christian
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Re: Turing off preview in Catalina Mail problem

[Christian]

Hi Jeff,

I have already set it to 100, but VoiceOver still speaks the message content in 
the message list in Catalina Mail.
Many thanks,
Christian

> 21 dec. 2019 kl. 20:07 skrev Jeff Berwick :
> 
> I experienced it as well and solved it by setting the horizontal scroll bar 
> to 100%.  It is the next item past the message list.
> 
> Hth,
> Jeff
> 
> 
>> On Dec 21, 2019, at 2:05 PM, Christian > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I have turned off preview in mail, but VoiceOver keeps reading the message 
>> content, but it is not shown on my braille display. This happens in the 
>> message list. Has anyone else experienced this?
>> Best regards,
>> Christian
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Re: Turing off preview in Catalina Mail problem

[Jeff Berwick]

I experienced it as well and solved it by setting the horizontal scroll bar to 
100%.  It is the next item past the message list.

Hth,
Jeff


> On Dec 21, 2019, at 2:05 PM, Christian  wrote:
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> Hi all,
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> content, but it is not shown on my braille display. This happens in the 
> message list. Has anyone else experienced this?
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Turing off preview in Catalina Mail problem

[Christian]

Hi all,

I have turned off preview in mail, but VoiceOver keeps reading the message 
content, but it is not shown on my braille display. This happens in the 
message list. Has anyone else experienced this?
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mail problem

[jean parker]

Hi All:

Thanks Tim for your tips on handling outgoing mail. I have reported this to 
Apple as I still find it clunky to use. I encourage others to do the same so it 
gets the needed attention. Aside from brief messages that require little or no 
correction, I have taken to composing in a word processor then pasting it into 
the message. Apple wants to hear from others experiencing this problem.
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Re: Annonying mail problem

[Dionipher Presas Herrera]

sometimes, it does normally but most of the times the problem exist.
On 21 Feb 2015, at 06:06 pm, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:

 Hello,
 
 In Yosemite, I have Mail set to Classic view and I have removed the preview 
 pane. To read messages in conversation view, i just press Return and the 
 latest message is read automatically. To read the previous messages, I stop 
 interacting and do VO-Left Arrow and the previous message is read. I just 
 have to do VO-Left Arrow again to read the one before that.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 21 Feb 2015, at 17:09, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:
 
 I have this problem too. There is no solution that I know of. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Feb 21, 2015, at 9:19 AM, Dionipher Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hello to everyone, i would like to ask everyone who’s using mail on the 
 yosemite. I got trouble reading group message on this list. on mavericks i 
 open a group message by clicking enter then stop interacting on the first 
 message to go to the other message on a group message, now, its so annoying 
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Annonying mail problem

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Hello to everyone, i would like to ask everyone who’s using mail on the 
yosemite. I got trouble reading group message on this list. on mavericks i open 
a group message by clicking enter then stop interacting on the first message to 
go to the other message on a group message, now, its so annoying in yosemite. 
any advice?

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Re: Annonying mail problem

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I have this problem too. There is no solution that I know of. 

Sent from my iPhone

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Hello to everyone, i would like to ask everyone who’s using mail on the 
 yosemite. I got trouble reading group message on this list. on mavericks i 
 open a group message by clicking enter then stop interacting on the first 
 message to go to the other message on a group message, now, its so annoying 
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Re: Annonying mail problem

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Hello,

In Yosemite, I have Mail set to Classic view and I have removed the preview 
pane. To read messages in conversation view, i just press Return and the latest 
message is read automatically. To read the previous messages, I stop 
interacting and do VO-Left Arrow and the previous message is read. I just have 
to do VO-Left Arrow again to read the one before that.

Cheers,

Anne


 On 21 Feb 2015, at 17:09, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:
 
 I have this problem too. There is no solution that I know of. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Feb 21, 2015, at 9:19 AM, Dionipher Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Hello to everyone, i would like to ask everyone who’s using mail on the 
 yosemite. I got trouble reading group message on this list. on mavericks i 
 open a group message by clicking enter then stop interacting on the first 
 message to go to the other message on a group message, now, its so annoying 
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Re: annoying mail problem

[Aleeha Dudley]

In order to fix this, find the new message notifications setting in the general 
preferences of the mail app. Switch this to whatever setting you are most 
comfortable with. I have mine set to only announce incoming messages from 
VIP’s. 
HTH.
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 On Feb 5, 2015, at 11:59 PM, Lorie McCloud lorice...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I’d like to know that too. it drives me nuts! does it have something to do 
 with disabling the preview pane?
 Lorie McCloud
 lorice...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Feb 5, 2015, at 10:56 PM, Donald Bishop w6...@donbishop.org wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I sent this message earlier, but it doesn’t appear to have gone through so 
 please excuse if you have seen it before.
 
 I’m running mail under yosemite.  When I was running Mavericks there was a 
 setting I turned off to prevent automatic reading of incoming messages.  
 This problem has come up again with yosemite, but I can’t remember the 
 setting I changed to stop it.  
 
 Could someone please remind me what setting it is?  
 
 Thanks,
 Don
 
 
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Re: annoying mail problem

[Lorie McCloud]

I’d like to know that too. it drives me nuts! does it have something to do with 
disabling the preview pane?
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 I sent this message earlier, but it doesn’t appear to have gone through so 
 please excuse if you have seen it before.
 
 I’m running mail under yosemite.  When I was running Mavericks there was a 
 setting I turned off to prevent automatic reading of incoming messages.  This 
 problem has come up again with yosemite, but I can’t remember the setting I 
 changed to stop it.  
 
 Could someone please remind me what setting it is?  
 
 Thanks,
 Don
 
 
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annoying mail problem

[Donald Bishop]

Hi all,

I sent this message earlier, but it doesn’t appear to have gone through so 
please excuse if you have seen it before.

I’m running mail under yosemite.  When I was running Mavericks there was a 
setting I turned off to prevent automatic reading of incoming messages.  This 
problem has come up again with yosemite, but I can’t remember the setting I 
changed to stop it.  

Could someone please remind me what setting it is?  

Thanks,
Don


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Re: mail problem

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Perhaps I wasn’t clear in my post I’ll try again.
I understand fully the process of switching an account on one’s own device.
What I was asking was this:
Once enabling imap with comcast themselves can you then only access your 
account via that protocol or can you choose between them without comcast 
needing to make any further changes on their end. I.E. from comcast’s 
perspective is it all or nothing I.E. pick imap and that’s it or does this 
registration merely enable you to use imap should you wish while still 
maintaining pop access on another device?
Is that better?
Robin


From: Ray Foret Jr 
Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2014 10:32 PM
To: Mac Visionaries List 
Subject: Re: mail problem

IF you want to move from pop to imap or imap to pop, you must completely turn 
off and delete the one before switching to the other.  You are given the choice 
only upon setting up the new account.  For example, say you want to switch from 
pop to imap, as I did.  First, turn off the pop account.  Next, completely 
delete it from your Mac.  Now, set up a brand new account and set it for imap. 
it is not possible to switch an account from one account type to another. 


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray


Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!

Sent from my Mac,
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  On Dec 27, 2014, at 9:27 PM, Robin Frost robinn...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi,
  Once you make this switch does that mean you can only use imap and not pop or 
can you choose between them after instituting this change?
  Robin


  From: Deb Lewis 
  Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2014 4:49 PM
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: mail problem

  I found it. Just was annoyed that you have to register for it and wait, can’t 
just do it. 

On Dec 27, 2014, at 1:46 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:

I don't know why Comcast does not make it more evident that they are 
offering lineup parameters. I could look up the part numbers and send them to 
you if you want.


Sincerely,
The Constantly barefooted Ray,


Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!

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On Dec 27, 2014, at 3:35 PM, Deb Lewis deblewi...@gmail.com wrote:


  I didn’t know comcast is now offering Imap. This is useful. I stopped 
using their email when I got more devices bedew of the Pop3 problems. Looks 
like you have to request the change, it’s not just there to do for yourself in 
case anyone else needs to do this. 

On Dec 27, 2014, at 11:14 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net 
wrote:

Very same point I was gonna make.  ever since I switched my iPhone and 
Mac from using Comcast's Pop3 protocall to using the Imap protocall, my mail in 
both has behaved much better.  Should have done this years ago. 


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray


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  On Dec 27, 2014, at 6:23 AM, Buddy Brannan bu...@brannan.name wrote:

  Do you have both iPhone and Mac set up with your Email as IMAP? If 
your iPhone is set up as POP3, it will download and delete your Email, so it 
isn’t available for your Mac to get. 

  — 
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wrote:

Hi all,
I am not getting all my mail.  I have  lot of email showing up on 
my iPhone but some reason it is not showing up on my mack .  Am I doing 
something wrong?
Becky 

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Re: mail problem

[Cheryl Homiak]

Actually there are two issues here.

In most cases it isn't actually necessary to delete one account before adding 
another though not doing so could cause you some confusion. I know when I was 
first testing out gmail with imap, I created a separate account on the Mac with 
the same email address set up as imap. Then I got rid of the pop account after 
I was sure things were working. Also it's possible to have your email as a pop 
account on one device or computer and imap on another but again, there are some 
consequences of doing that. Btw I don't remember at the moment how to do it but 
on your Mac if you are trying to get pop and it doesn't come up as a choice 
there's a way to force it to come up; I've done it but don't remember how right 
this minute.

However, since Comcast makes you specifically request the switch instead of you 
just changing your settings in your email programs, I don't know if you can 
then use one or the other at will. I don't have Comcast but I help a friend who 
does and I haven't had her change to imap partly because she isn't tech capable 
at all and I'm afraid it may cause her confusion and I don't like recommending 
that she try a switch when I don't know if she can switch back or have it one 
way in one situation and the other way elsewhere.

-- 
Cheryl


Go beyond the Christmas story this year;
meet Immanuel (God with us),
Jesus, the crucified Savior,
Christ, the risen LORD!!!





On Dec 27, 2014, at 9:32 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:

IF you want to move from pop to imap or imap to pop, you must completely turn 
off and delete the one before switching to the other.  You are given the choice 
only upon setting up the new account.  For example, say you want to switch from 
pop to imap, as I did.  First, turn off the pop account.  Next, completely 
delete it from your Mac.  Now, set up a brand new account and set it for imap. 
it is not possible to switch an account from one account type to another.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray

Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!

Sent from my Mac,
the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in

 On Dec 27, 2014, at 9:27 PM, Robin Frost robinn...@gmail.com 
 mailto:robinn...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 Once you make this switch does that mean you can only use imap and not pop or 
 can you choose between them after instituting this change?
 Robin
  
  
 From: Deb Lewis mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com
 Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2014 4:49 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: mail problem
  
 I found it. Just was annoyed that you have to register for it and wait, can’t 
 just do it.
  
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 1:46 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net 
 mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
  
 I don't know why Comcast does not make it more evident that they are 
 offering lineup parameters. I could look up the part numbers and send them 
 to you if you want.
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly barefooted Ray,
 
 Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
  
 Sent from my iPhone,
 the only smart phone with full accessibility for the blind built-in
 
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 3:35 PM, Deb Lewis deblewi...@gmail.com 
 mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I didn’t know comcast is now offering Imap. This is useful. I stopped using 
 their email when I got more devices bedew of the Pop3 problems. Looks like 
 you have to request the change, it’s not just there to do for yourself in 
 case anyone else needs to do this.
  
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 11:14 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net 
 mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
  
 Very same point I was gonna make.  ever since I switched my iPhone and Mac 
 from using Comcast's Pop3 protocall to using the Imap protocall, my mail 
 in both has behaved much better.  Should have done this years ago.
  
  
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 
 Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
 
 Sent from my Mac,
 the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
  
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 6:23 AM, Buddy Brannan bu...@brannan.name 
 mailto:bu...@brannan.name wrote:
  
 Do you have both iPhone and Mac set up with your Email as IMAP? If your 
 iPhone is set up as POP3, it will download and delete your Email, so it 
 isn’t available for your Mac to get. 
 
 — 
 Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
 Phone: 814-860-3194 
 Mobile: 814-431-0962
 Email: bu...@brannan.name mailto:bu...@brannan.name
 
 
 
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 6:49 AM, becky sabo beckyas...@gmail.com 
 mailto:beckyas...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I am not getting all my mail.  I have  lot of email showing up on my 
 iPhone but some reason it is not showing up on my mack .  Am I doing 
 something wrong?
 Becky 
 
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Re: mail problem

[Deb Lewis]

Yes, with comcast it’s one or the other. You can’t mix them. You make a request 
through a form to have your email changed to Imap. I think this is totally 
stupid, but that’s how they do it.


 On Dec 28, 2014, at 8:48 AM, Robin Frost robinn...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 Perhaps I wasn’t clear in my post I’ll try again.
 I understand fully the process of switching an account on one’s own device.
 What I was asking was this:
 Once enabling imap with comcast themselves can you then only access your 
 account via that protocol or can you choose between them without comcast 
 needing to make any further changes on their end. I.E. from comcast’s 
 perspective is it all or nothing I.E. pick imap and that’s it or does this 
 registration merely enable you to use imap should you wish while still 
 maintaining pop access on another device?
 Is that better?
 Robin
  
  
 From: Ray Foret Jr mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net
 Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2014 10:32 PM
 To: Mac Visionaries List mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: mail problem
  
 IF you want to move from pop to imap or imap to pop, you must completely turn 
 off and delete the one before switching to the other.  You are given the 
 choice only upon setting up the new account.  For example, say you want to 
 switch from pop to imap, as I did.  First, turn off the pop account.  Next, 
 completely delete it from your Mac.  Now, set up a brand new account and set 
 it for imap. it is not possible to switch an account from one account type to 
 another.
  
  
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 
 Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
 
 Sent from my Mac,
 the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
  
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 9:27 PM, Robin Frost robinn...@gmail.com 
 mailto:robinn...@gmail.com wrote:
  
 Hi,
 Once you make this switch does that mean you can only use imap and not pop 
 or can you choose between them after instituting this change?
 Robin
  
  
 From: Deb Lewis mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com
 Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2014 4:49 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: mail problem
  
 I found it. Just was annoyed that you have to register for it and wait, 
 can’t just do it.
  
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 1:46 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net 
 mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
  
 I don't know why Comcast does not make it more evident that they are 
 offering lineup parameters. I could look up the part numbers and send them 
 to you if you want.
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly barefooted Ray,
 
 Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
  
 Sent from my iPhone,
 the only smart phone with full accessibility for the blind built-in
 
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 3:35 PM, Deb Lewis deblewi...@gmail.com 
 mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I didn’t know comcast is now offering Imap. This is useful. I stopped 
 using their email when I got more devices bedew of the Pop3 problems. 
 Looks like you have to request the change, it’s not just there to do for 
 yourself in case anyone else needs to do this.
  
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 11:14 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net 
 mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
  
 Very same point I was gonna make.  ever since I switched my iPhone and 
 Mac from using Comcast's Pop3 protocall to using the Imap protocall, my 
 mail in both has behaved much better.  Should have done this years ago.
  
  
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 
 Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
 
 Sent from my Mac,
 the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
  
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 6:23 AM, Buddy Brannan bu...@brannan.name 
 mailto:bu...@brannan.name wrote:
  
 Do you have both iPhone and Mac set up with your Email as IMAP? If your 
 iPhone is set up as POP3, it will download and delete your Email, so it 
 isn’t available for your Mac to get. 
 
 — 
 Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
 Phone: 814-860-3194 
 Mobile: 814-431-0962
 Email: bu...@brannan.name mailto:bu...@brannan.name
 
 
 
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 6:49 AM, becky sabo beckyas...@gmail.com 
 mailto:beckyas...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I am not getting all my mail.  I have  lot of email showing up on my 
 iPhone but some reason it is not showing up on my mack .  Am I doing 
 something wrong?
 Becky 
 
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Re: mail problem

[Robert Cole]

All I did was delete my pop and add the imap account.
I did not request nothing of comcast.


Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 28, 2014, at 12:29 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Actually there are two issues here.
 
 In most cases it isn't actually necessary to delete one account before adding 
 another though not doing so could cause you some confusion. I know when I was 
 first testing out gmail with imap, I created a separate account on the Mac 
 with the same email address set up as imap. Then I got rid of the pop account 
 after I was sure things were working. Also it's possible to have your email 
 as a pop account on one device or computer and imap on another but again, 
 there are some consequences of doing that. Btw I don't remember at the moment 
 how to do it but on your Mac if you are trying to get pop and it doesn't come 
 up as a choice there's a way to force it to come up; I've done it but don't 
 remember how right this minute.
 
 However, since Comcast makes you specifically request the switch instead of 
 you just changing your settings in your email programs, I don't know if you 
 can then use one or the other at will. I don't have Comcast but I help a 
 friend who does and I haven't had her change to imap partly because she isn't 
 tech capable at all and I'm afraid it may cause her confusion and I don't 
 like recommending that she try a switch when I don't know if she can switch 
 back or have it one way in one situation and the other way elsewhere.
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 
 Go beyond the Christmas story this year;
 meet Immanuel (God with us),
 Jesus, the crucified Savior,
 Christ, the risen LORD!!!
 
 
 
 
 
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 9:32 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 IF you want to move from pop to imap or imap to pop, you must completely turn 
 off and delete the one before switching to the other.  You are given the 
 choice only upon setting up the new account.  For example, say you want to 
 switch from pop to imap, as I did.  First, turn off the pop account.  Next, 
 completely delete it from your Mac.  Now, set up a brand new account and set 
 it for imap. it is not possible to switch an account from one account type to 
 another.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 
 Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
 
 Sent from my Mac,
 the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
 
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 9:27 PM, Robin Frost robinn...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 Once you make this switch does that mean you can only use imap and not pop  
 or can you choose between them after instituting this change?
 Robin
  
  
 From: Deb Lewis
 Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2014 4:49 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: mail problem
  
 I found it. Just was annoyed that you have to register for it and wait, 
 can’t just do it.
  
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 1:46 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
  
 I don't know why Comcast does not make it more evident that they are 
 offering lineup parameters. I could look up the part numbers and send them 
 to you if you want.
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly barefooted Ray,
 
 Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
  
 Sent from my iPhone,
 the only smart phone with full accessibility for the blind built-in
 
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 3:35 PM, Deb Lewis deblewi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I didn’t know comcast is now offering Imap. This is useful. I stopped 
 using their email when I got more devices bedew of the Pop3 problems. 
 Looks like you have to request the change, it’s not just there to do for 
 yourself in case anyone else needs to do this.
  
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 11:14 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
  
 Very same point I was gonna make.  ever since I switched my iPhone and 
 Mac from using Comcast's Pop3 protocall to using the Imap protocall, my 
 mail in both has behaved much better.  Should have done this years ago.
  
  
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 
 Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
 
 Sent from my Mac,
 the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
  
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 6:23 AM, Buddy Brannan bu...@brannan.name wrote:
  
 Do you have both iPhone and Mac set up with your Email as IMAP? If your 
 iPhone is set up as POP3, it will download and delete your Email, so it 
 isn’t available for your Mac to get. 
 
 — 
 Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
 Phone: 814-860-3194 
 Mobile: 814-431-0962
 Email: bu...@brannan.name
 
 
 
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 6:49 AM, becky sabo beckyas...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I am not getting all my mail.  I have  lot of email showing up on my 
 iPhone but some reason it is not showing up on my mack .  Am I doing 
 something wrong?
 Becky 
 
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Re: mail problem

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Sadly I suspected they’d make it an all or nothing proposition. thanks for the 
confirmation though as I never like to assume.
Robin


From: Deb Lewis 
Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2014 4:33 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: mail problem

Yes, with comcast it’s one or the other. You can’t mix them. You make a request 
through a form to have your email changed to Imap. I think this is totally 
stupid, but that’s how they do it. 


  On Dec 28, 2014, at 8:48 AM, Robin Frost robinn...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi,
  Perhaps I wasn’t clear in my post I’ll try again.
  I understand fully the process of switching an account on one’s own device.
  What I was asking was this:
  Once enabling imap with comcast themselves can you then only access your 
account via that protocol or can you choose between them without comcast 
needing to make any further changes on their end. I.E. from comcast’s 
perspective is it all or nothing I.E. pick imap and that’s it or does this 
registration merely enable you to use imap should you wish while still 
maintaining pop access on another device?
  Is that better?
  Robin


  From: Ray Foret Jr 
  Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2014 10:32 PM
  To: Mac Visionaries List 
  Subject: Re: mail problem

  IF you want to move from pop to imap or imap to pop, you must completely turn 
off and delete the one before switching to the other.  You are given the choice 
only upon setting up the new account.  For example, say you want to switch from 
pop to imap, as I did.  First, turn off the pop account.  Next, completely 
delete it from your Mac.  Now, set up a brand new account and set it for imap. 
it is not possible to switch an account from one account type to another. 


  Sincerely,
  The Constantly Barefooted Ray


  Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!

  Sent from my Mac,
  the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in

On Dec 27, 2014, at 9:27 PM, Robin Frost robinn...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,
Once you make this switch does that mean you can only use imap and not pop 
or can you choose between them after instituting this change?
Robin


From: Deb Lewis 
Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2014 4:49 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: mail problem

I found it. Just was annoyed that you have to register for it and wait, 
can’t just do it. 

  On Dec 27, 2014, at 1:46 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:

  I don't know why Comcast does not make it more evident that they are 
offering lineup parameters. I could look up the part numbers and send them to 
you if you want.


  Sincerely,
  The Constantly barefooted Ray,


  Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!

  Sent from my iPhone,
  the only smart phone with full accessibility for the blind built-in

  On Dec 27, 2014, at 3:35 PM, Deb Lewis deblewi...@gmail.com wrote:


I didn’t know comcast is now offering Imap. This is useful. I stopped 
using their email when I got more devices bedew of the Pop3 problems. Looks 
like you have to request the change, it’s not just there to do for yourself in 
case anyone else needs to do this. 

  On Dec 27, 2014, at 11:14 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net 
wrote:

  Very same point I was gonna make.  ever since I switched my iPhone 
and Mac from using Comcast's Pop3 protocall to using the Imap protocall, my 
mail in both has behaved much better.  Should have done this years ago. 


  Sincerely,
  The Constantly Barefooted Ray


  Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!

  Sent from my Mac,
  the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in

On Dec 27, 2014, at 6:23 AM, Buddy Brannan bu...@brannan.name 
wrote:

Do you have both iPhone and Mac set up with your Email as IMAP? If 
your iPhone is set up as POP3, it will download and delete your Email, so it 
isn’t available for your Mac to get. 

— 
Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Phone: 814-860-3194 
Mobile: 814-431-0962
Email: bu...@brannan.name




  On Dec 27, 2014, at 6:49 AM, becky sabo beckyas...@gmail.com 
wrote:

  Hi all,
  I am not getting all my mail.  I have  lot of email showing up on 
my iPhone but some reason it is not showing up on my mack .  Am I doing 
something wrong?
  Becky 

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[becky sabo]

Hi all,
I am not getting all my mail.  I have  lot of email showing up on my iPhone but 
some reason it is not showing up on my mack .  Am I doing something wrong?
Becky 

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Re: mail problem

[Buddy Brannan]

Do you have both iPhone and Mac set up with your Email as IMAP? If your iPhone 
is set up as POP3, it will download and delete your Email, so it isn’t 
available for your Mac to get. 

— 
Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Phone: 814-860-3194 
Mobile: 814-431-0962
Email: bu...@brannan.name



 On Dec 27, 2014, at 6:49 AM, becky sabo beckyas...@gmail.com wrote:
 
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 I am not getting all my mail.  I have  lot of email showing up on my iPhone 
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 Becky 
 
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Re: mail problem

[Ray Foret Jr]

Very same point I was gonna make.  ever since I switched my iPhone and Mac from 
using Comcast's Pop3 protocall to using the Imap protocall, my mail in both has 
behaved much better.  Should have done this years ago.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray

Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!

Sent from my Mac,
the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in

 On Dec 27, 2014, at 6:23 AM, Buddy Brannan bu...@brannan.name wrote:
 
 Do you have both iPhone and Mac set up with your Email as IMAP? If your 
 iPhone is set up as POP3, it will download and delete your Email, so it isn’t 
 available for your Mac to get. 
 
 — 
 Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
 Phone: 814-860-3194 
 Mobile: 814-431-0962
 Email: bu...@brannan.name
 
 
 
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 6:49 AM, becky sabo beckyas...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I am not getting all my mail.  I have  lot of email showing up on my iPhone 
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 wrong?
 Becky 
 
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Re: mail problem

[Deb Lewis]

I didn’t know comcast is now offering Imap. This is useful. I stopped using 
their email when I got more devices bedew of the Pop3 problems. Looks like you 
have to request the change, it’s not just there to do for yourself in case 
anyone else needs to do this.

 On Dec 27, 2014, at 11:14 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Very same point I was gonna make.  ever since I switched my iPhone and Mac 
 from using Comcast's Pop3 protocall to using the Imap protocall, my mail in 
 both has behaved much better.  Should have done this years ago.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 
 Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
 
 Sent from my Mac,
 the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
 
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 6:23 AM, Buddy Brannan bu...@brannan.name 
 mailto:bu...@brannan.name wrote:
 
 Do you have both iPhone and Mac set up with your Email as IMAP? If your 
 iPhone is set up as POP3, it will download and delete your Email, so it 
 isn’t available for your Mac to get. 
 
 — 
 Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
 Phone: 814-860-3194 
 Mobile: 814-431-0962
 Email: bu...@brannan.name mailto:bu...@brannan.name
 
 
 
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 6:49 AM, becky sabo beckyas...@gmail.com 
 mailto:beckyas...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I am not getting all my mail.  I have  lot of email showing up on my iPhone 
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 Becky 
 
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Re: mail problem

[Ray Foret Jr]

I don't know why Comcast does not make it more evident that they are offering 
lineup parameters. I could look up the part numbers and send them to you if you 
want.

Sincerely,
The Constantly barefooted Ray,

Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!

Sent from my iPhone,
the only smart phone with full accessibility for the blind built-in

 On Dec 27, 2014, at 3:35 PM, Deb Lewis deblewi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I didn’t know comcast is now offering Imap. This is useful. I stopped using 
 their email when I got more devices bedew of the Pop3 problems. Looks like 
 you have to request the change, it’s not just there to do for yourself in 
 case anyone else needs to do this.
 
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 11:14 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Very same point I was gonna make.  ever since I switched my iPhone and Mac 
 from using Comcast's Pop3 protocall to using the Imap protocall, my mail in 
 both has behaved much better.  Should have done this years ago.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 
 Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
 
 Sent from my Mac,
 the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
 
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 6:23 AM, Buddy Brannan bu...@brannan.name wrote:
 
 Do you have both iPhone and Mac set up with your Email as IMAP? If your 
 iPhone is set up as POP3, it will download and delete your Email, so it 
 isn’t available for your Mac to get. 
 
 — 
 Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
 Phone: 814-860-3194 
 Mobile: 814-431-0962
 Email: bu...@brannan.name
 
 
 
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 6:49 AM, becky sabo beckyas...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I am not getting all my mail.  I have  lot of email showing up on my 
 iPhone but some reason it is not showing up on my mack .  Am I doing 
 something wrong?
 Becky 
 
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Re: mail problem

[Deb Lewis]

I found it. Just was annoyed that you have to register for it and wait, can’t 
just do it.

 On Dec 27, 2014, at 1:46 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 I don't know why Comcast does not make it more evident that they are offering 
 lineup parameters. I could look up the part numbers and send them to you if 
 you want.
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly barefooted Ray,
 
 Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
 
 Sent from my iPhone,
 the only smart phone with full accessibility for the blind built-in
 
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 3:35 PM, Deb Lewis deblewi...@gmail.com 
 mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I didn’t know comcast is now offering Imap. This is useful. I stopped using 
 their email when I got more devices bedew of the Pop3 problems. Looks like 
 you have to request the change, it’s not just there to do for yourself in 
 case anyone else needs to do this.
 
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 11:14 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net 
 mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Very same point I was gonna make.  ever since I switched my iPhone and Mac 
 from using Comcast's Pop3 protocall to using the Imap protocall, my mail in 
 both has behaved much better.  Should have done this years ago.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 
 Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
 
 Sent from my Mac,
 the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
 
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 6:23 AM, Buddy Brannan bu...@brannan.name 
 mailto:bu...@brannan.name wrote:
 
 Do you have both iPhone and Mac set up with your Email as IMAP? If your 
 iPhone is set up as POP3, it will download and delete your Email, so it 
 isn’t available for your Mac to get. 
 
 — 
 Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
 Phone: 814-860-3194 
 Mobile: 814-431-0962
 Email: bu...@brannan.name mailto:bu...@brannan.name
 
 
 
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 mailto:beckyas...@gmail.com wrote:
 
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 I am not getting all my mail.  I have  lot of email showing up on my 
 iPhone but some reason it is not showing up on my mack .  Am I doing 
 something wrong?
 Becky 
 
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Re: mail problem

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Once you make this switch does that mean you can only use imap and not pop or 
can you choose between them after instituting this change?
Robin


From: Deb Lewis 
Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2014 4:49 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: mail problem

I found it. Just was annoyed that you have to register for it and wait, can’t 
just do it. 

  On Dec 27, 2014, at 1:46 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:

  I don't know why Comcast does not make it more evident that they are offering 
lineup parameters. I could look up the part numbers and send them to you if you 
want.


  Sincerely,
  The Constantly barefooted Ray,


  Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!

  Sent from my iPhone,
  the only smart phone with full accessibility for the blind built-in

  On Dec 27, 2014, at 3:35 PM, Deb Lewis deblewi...@gmail.com wrote:


I didn’t know comcast is now offering Imap. This is useful. I stopped using 
their email when I got more devices bedew of the Pop3 problems. Looks like you 
have to request the change, it’s not just there to do for yourself in case 
anyone else needs to do this. 

  On Dec 27, 2014, at 11:14 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:

  Very same point I was gonna make.  ever since I switched my iPhone and 
Mac from using Comcast's Pop3 protocall to using the Imap protocall, my mail in 
both has behaved much better.  Should have done this years ago. 


  Sincerely,
  The Constantly Barefooted Ray


  Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!

  Sent from my Mac,
  the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in

On Dec 27, 2014, at 6:23 AM, Buddy Brannan bu...@brannan.name wrote:

Do you have both iPhone and Mac set up with your Email as IMAP? If your 
iPhone is set up as POP3, it will download and delete your Email, so it isn’t 
available for your Mac to get. 

— 
Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Phone: 814-860-3194 
Mobile: 814-431-0962
Email: bu...@brannan.name




  On Dec 27, 2014, at 6:49 AM, becky sabo beckyas...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi all,
  I am not getting all my mail.  I have  lot of email showing up on my 
iPhone but some reason it is not showing up on my mack .  Am I doing something 
wrong?
  Becky 

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Re: mail problem

[Ray Foret Jr]

IF you want to move from pop to imap or imap to pop, you must completely turn 
off and delete the one before switching to the other.  You are given the choice 
only upon setting up the new account.  For example, say you want to switch from 
pop to imap, as I did.  First, turn off the pop account.  Next, completely 
delete it from your Mac.  Now, set up a brand new account and set it for imap. 
it is not possible to switch an account from one account type to another.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray

Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!

Sent from my Mac,
the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in

 On Dec 27, 2014, at 9:27 PM, Robin Frost robinn...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 Once you make this switch does that mean you can only use imap and not pop or 
 can you choose between them after instituting this change?
 Robin
  
  
 From: Deb Lewis mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com
 Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2014 4:49 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: mail problem
  
 I found it. Just was annoyed that you have to register for it and wait, can’t 
 just do it.
  
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 1:46 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net 
 mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
  
 I don't know why Comcast does not make it more evident that they are 
 offering lineup parameters. I could look up the part numbers and send them 
 to you if you want.
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly barefooted Ray,
 
 Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
  
 Sent from my iPhone,
 the only smart phone with full accessibility for the blind built-in
 
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 3:35 PM, Deb Lewis deblewi...@gmail.com 
 mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I didn’t know comcast is now offering Imap. This is useful. I stopped using 
 their email when I got more devices bedew of the Pop3 problems. Looks like 
 you have to request the change, it’s not just there to do for yourself in 
 case anyone else needs to do this.
  
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 11:14 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net 
 mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
  
 Very same point I was gonna make.  ever since I switched my iPhone and Mac 
 from using Comcast's Pop3 protocall to using the Imap protocall, my mail 
 in both has behaved much better.  Should have done this years ago.
  
  
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 
 Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
 
 Sent from my Mac,
 the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
  
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 6:23 AM, Buddy Brannan bu...@brannan.name 
 mailto:bu...@brannan.name wrote:
  
 Do you have both iPhone and Mac set up with your Email as IMAP? If your 
 iPhone is set up as POP3, it will download and delete your Email, so it 
 isn’t available for your Mac to get. 
 
 — 
 Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
 Phone: 814-860-3194 
 Mobile: 814-431-0962
 Email: bu...@brannan.name mailto:bu...@brannan.name
 
 
 
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 6:49 AM, becky sabo beckyas...@gmail.com 
 mailto:beckyas...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I am not getting all my mail.  I have  lot of email showing up on my 
 iPhone but some reason it is not showing up on my mack .  Am I doing 
 something wrong?
 Becky 
 
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sudden mail problem

[Christina C.]

Hello listers,

I do not know what is going on. This just started today. I have not changed 
anything. I do have a gmail account and I'm using the apple mail client on 
latest version of Mac. Nothing that I do in my mail program is sticking. If I 
delete a message from my inbox, it appears that the message was moved to my 
trash label/folder. However, a few minutes later, the email re-appears back in 
my inbox. This is happening in all of my folders. Also, if I move an email to 
another folder/label it also re-appears a few minutes later back where it 
started. :( I have shut down apple mail several times, I have completely shut 
down my computer for an hour and rebooted everything. The problem has not gone 
away. :( I have checked my wifi connection and that seems to be working 
perfectly fine.

Thanks for any help,
Christina
Sent from Christina's iMac :)

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Re: sudden mail problem

[Caitlyn and Maggie]

This is probably a google issue rather then an apple mail one.
I assume you are using imap with your gmail account?
I had problems like this with my own gmail account and apple mail til I 
switched my gamil to pop instead of imap.
Cait

On May 7, 2014, at 3:50 PM, Christina C. blindmaclo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello listers,
 
 I do not know what is going on. This just started today. I have not changed 
 anything. I do have a gmail account and I'm using the apple mail client on 
 latest version of Mac. Nothing that I do in my mail program is sticking. If I 
 delete a message from my inbox, it appears that the message was moved to my 
 trash label/folder. However, a few minutes later, the email re-appears back 
 in my inbox. This is happening in all of my folders. Also, if I move an email 
 to another folder/label it also re-appears a few minutes later back where it 
 started. :( I have shut down apple mail several times, I have completely shut 
 down my computer for an hour and rebooted everything. The problem has not 
 gone away. :( I have checked my wifi connection and that seems to be working 
 perfectly fine.
 
 Thanks for any help,
 Christina
 Sent from Christina's iMac :)
 
 
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strange mail problem

[May and Noah]

Hi there everyone.

I have a strange mail problem. Yesterday I got an iMac and transferred all my 
things to it from the mac air.

Well, all is going well in getting it set up, except for mail. For whatever 
reason it’s not letting me create any of my email accounts. I go through all 
the steps and all looks good, but when I’m done, no accounts, no error message, 
no nothing.

Any idea what’s going on?

May and Prince Noah
www.canadianlynx.ca

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Lots of frouble installing Mavericks but solved but not my mail problem.

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Hello All.

I have had lots of problems installing Mavericks.

A friend helped me over Skype and as he’s extremely familiar with Terminal, I 
downloaded Mavericks three days ago and so today, I had to install it.

First we had to go into Terminal and make sure that Mavericks was moved to my 
Rugged Media stick.

Once that was done, I wiped my I Mac and so started the process.

Each time, Mavericks would hang and refuse to install.

Finally, as I use Ethernet, I got Mountain Lion installed on the USB stick.  So 
after skipping a few steps, downloaded Mavericks from the App store and onto 
the USB stick and when it prompted that it needed to be installed, we went 
through the process again but chose my SSD drive to install Mavericks and it 
finally installed.

So after playing with Mail and changing a few things so that it almost looks 
like how it was in Mountain Lion, I now keep getting favourite and tool bar in 
the way.  I don’t like it saying embedded or for the fact that Voice Over does 
not read mail automatically at times.

Kawal.

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Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Apple Mail by default assumes that you're using iMap and I'm guessing that 
Windows may assume otherwise.  As mentioned, at the web interface of your GMail 
account, you'll need to go into your Settings, then then to the POP/iMap 
Settings and make sure that iMap is enabled for your GMail account.  I find it 
much better to use iMap because then the messages are kept in Google-land.  
Therefore, if I remove and re-add the GMail account, all messages and mailboxes 
are maintained.  Once you confirm that iMap is enabled, you may need to remove 
then re-add your GMail account in the Mail, Contacts  Calendars pane of system 
Preferences.

I know that this sounds like something everyone else has been saying but it 
really shouldn't be causing you this much grief unless there's something amiss 
at the Google end.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2013-03-05, at 3:12 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:

 Wow, can you actually have both pop and imap enabled?
 I thought it was 1 or the other.
 Have you had these issues before yourself?
 I can send mail all day from the mac, and the pc has never had an issue.
 Thoughts?
 
 Thanks,
 Jed 
 
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 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Buddy Brannan
 Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 4:54 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem
 
 Hi,
 
 Gmail you say?
 
 Could be that gmail is blocking you. Two things:
 
 First, you'll want to be sure that imap and POP3 are enabled in your gmail
 account. If they aren't, it won't work. You'll need to do this from the
 gmail settings page. 
 
 Second, if you've got pop3 and imap set up, it could be that google is
 blocking you anyway. If so, you'll want to go to this page:
 http://www.google.com/accounts/DisplayUnlockCaptcha
 
 And follow the instructions.
 --
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 Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
 
 
 
 On Mar 5, 2013, at 3:35 PM, David McLean david.mcl...@cox.net wrote:
 
 Do you have another email address?  One assigned when you signed up with
 your ISP?
 My point is to try email without using gmail.  If that works the problem
 is narrowed down to a set up issue with gmail.
 I assume you can get to the internet without a problem?  That wil tell us
 whether you have a network connection.  Just want to eliminate the obvious.
 On Mar 5, 2013, at 12:52 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:
 
 That's another thing, I'm not hearing notification sounds either.  
 Any ideas with that?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noel Romey
 Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 12:41 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem
 
 I can't remember how it's done but you may either enable imap on 
 gmail s side or check their help docs from google to make sure 
 settings jive with osx. I use gmail with mail with no problems except 
 for not hearing new mail notification sounds but that's another issue 
 altogether
 
 Noel
 
 On Mar 5, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:
 
 Hey guys,
 
 4 hours later on the phone with apple, and still no progress on 
 receiving email with my mac.
 I'm about ready to take this mac back at this point.  Can anyone 
 explain what possible issues might be going on?
 All the settings in apple mail look correct, but I can have the 
 computer sit there all day and not 1 piece of email will come in.
 Yet when I check it on the PC, it all comes down.  Yet, I'm getting 
 no errors when I do a get mail command.
 This is beyond frustrating guys.  Ever since I got this brand new 
 mac, I thought apples were just supposed to work.  I feel like I've 
 made no progress on this computer in the alst month.
 Does anyone else use gmail, and has anyone else had these issues of 
 getting no mail?
 
 Thanks,
 Jed
 
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Re: More on this mail problem

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Do you have multiple accounts on your Mac?  If you have another eMail account 
that is working normally, sometimes it can send messages from the other 
account's server.  That would account for the ability to send but not receive.  
It really sounds to me that it is something in your Google settings that is 
causing the issue.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2013-03-05, at 4:58 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:

 Hey guys,
 
 I simply do not understand why I am the only person on this list having
 issues with getting my email from gmail.
 The real killer is, someone on here made a suggestion I change 1 thing the
 1st day I had my mac, and I don't even know what it was. 
 It worked for a while, I have no idea, but it worked.  This person indicated
 they had trouble with imap.
 Upon recommendation of apple, I deleted the account, and now we're back at
 square 1.
 
 I've been back and fourth so many times with this I don't know whether I'm
 coming or going any more.
 To recap everyone, I simply am not receiving mail from my gmail account.  I
 get hundreds of messages a day, but none of them are showing up on my mac.
 I go to create an account on the mac, and go through all the standard stuff
 user name, password, bla bla.
 Yet, no mail, but I can send mail all day cause I type a message hit the
 command to send, and I hear the swish.
 Is anyone available to go through things, is there something I'm missing?
 I can use adium to chat, surf the web, but it's almost like this mac is
 being thrown in to orbit when I check for mail.  All it says is get new
 mail, and nothing else.
 Yet I'll shut the mac down, fire up the PC, and all my mail is there.  Any
 thoughts guys?
 
 Thanks,
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Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem

[Chris Blouch]

So one other general thing to check. If your PC is pulling stuff down 
via POP, that removes messages from the server. That would mean that 
when your mac checks for mail, nothing is there. Can you verify that 
your PC is off or at least not sucking your inbox clean?


CB

On 3/5/13 2:55 PM, Jed Barton wrote:

Cool man, I'll give you a yell on skype.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of matthew Dyer
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 2:10 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem

Hi,  First of all,  do you have the account online.  This will need tio be
online in order to   receive mail.  Are you able to send messages?  In the
mail box menu there is an opsion to take the account online.  Contact me on
skype and I will try to help you out.  I find gmail to be a ppain in the
but.  Sometimes gmail goes off line  as far as the server is conserned.
HTH,.

Matthew


On Mar 5, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Jed Barton wrote:


Hey guys,

4 hours later on the phone with apple, and still no progress on
receiving email with my mac.
I'm about ready to take this mac back at this point.  Can anyone
explain what possible issues might be going on?
All the settings in apple mail look correct, but I can have the
computer sit there all day and not 1 piece of email will come in.
Yet when I check it on the PC, it all comes down.  Yet, I'm getting no
errors when I do a get mail command.
This is beyond frustrating guys.  Ever since I got this brand new mac,
I thought apples were just supposed to work.  I feel like I've made no
progress on this computer in the alst month.
Does anyone else use gmail, and has anyone else had these issues of
getting no mail?

Thanks,
Jed

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RE: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem

[Jed Barton]

Hey there,
We made some huge progress last night.  All is fixed.  Took us 2 hours but we 
got it done. 

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:09 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem

So one other general thing to check. If your PC is pulling stuff down via POP, 
that removes messages from the server. That would mean that when your mac 
checks for mail, nothing is there. Can you verify that your PC is off or at 
least not sucking your inbox clean?

CB

On 3/5/13 2:55 PM, Jed Barton wrote:
 Cool man, I'll give you a yell on skype.

 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of matthew Dyer
 Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 2:10 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem

 Hi,  First of all,  do you have the account online.  This will need tio be
 online in order to   receive mail.  Are you able to send messages?  In the
 mail box menu there is an opsion to take the account online.  Contact me on
 skype and I will try to help you out.  I find gmail to be a ppain in the
 but.  Sometimes gmail goes off line  as far as the server is conserned.
 HTH,.

 Matthew


 On Mar 5, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Jed Barton wrote:

 Hey guys,

 4 hours later on the phone with apple, and still no progress on
 receiving email with my mac.
 I'm about ready to take this mac back at this point.  Can anyone
 explain what possible issues might be going on?
 All the settings in apple mail look correct, but I can have the
 computer sit there all day and not 1 piece of email will come in.
 Yet when I check it on the PC, it all comes down.  Yet, I'm getting no
 errors when I do a get mail command.
 This is beyond frustrating guys.  Ever since I got this brand new mac,
 I thought apples were just supposed to work.  I feel like I've made no
 progress on this computer in the alst month.
 Does anyone else use gmail, and has anyone else had these issues of
 getting no mail?

 Thanks,
 Jed

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Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem

[Chris Blouch]

Can you summarize what resolved the problem in case something similar 
ever comes up again?


CB

On 3/6/13 2:11 PM, Jed Barton wrote:

Hey there,
We made some huge progress last night.  All is fixed.  Took us 2 hours but we 
got it done.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:09 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem

So one other general thing to check. If your PC is pulling stuff down via POP, 
that removes messages from the server. That would mean that when your mac 
checks for mail, nothing is there. Can you verify that your PC is off or at 
least not sucking your inbox clean?

CB

On 3/5/13 2:55 PM, Jed Barton wrote:

Cool man, I'll give you a yell on skype.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of matthew Dyer
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 2:10 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem

Hi,  First of all,  do you have the account online.  This will need tio be
online in order to   receive mail.  Are you able to send messages?  In the
mail box menu there is an opsion to take the account online.  Contact me on
skype and I will try to help you out.  I find gmail to be a ppain in the
but.  Sometimes gmail goes off line  as far as the server is conserned.
HTH,.

Matthew


On Mar 5, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Jed Barton wrote:


Hey guys,

4 hours later on the phone with apple, and still no progress on
receiving email with my mac.
I'm about ready to take this mac back at this point.  Can anyone
explain what possible issues might be going on?
All the settings in apple mail look correct, but I can have the
computer sit there all day and not 1 piece of email will come in.
Yet when I check it on the PC, it all comes down.  Yet, I'm getting no
errors when I do a get mail command.
This is beyond frustrating guys.  Ever since I got this brand new mac,
I thought apples were just supposed to work.  I feel like I've made no
progress on this computer in the alst month.
Does anyone else use gmail, and has anyone else had these issues of
getting no mail?

Thanks,
Jed

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RE: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem

[Jed Barton]

The solution was to go to pop instead of imap. 

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 5:15 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem

Can you summarize what resolved the problem in case something similar ever 
comes up again?

CB

On 3/6/13 2:11 PM, Jed Barton wrote:
 Hey there,
 We made some huge progress last night.  All is fixed.  Took us 2 hours but we 
 got it done.

 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
 Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:09 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem

 So one other general thing to check. If your PC is pulling stuff down via 
 POP, that removes messages from the server. That would mean that when your 
 mac checks for mail, nothing is there. Can you verify that your PC is off or 
 at least not sucking your inbox clean?

 CB

 On 3/5/13 2:55 PM, Jed Barton wrote:
 Cool man, I'll give you a yell on skype.

 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of matthew Dyer
 Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 2:10 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem

 Hi,  First of all,  do you have the account online.  This will need tio be
 online in order to   receive mail.  Are you able to send messages?  In the
 mail box menu there is an opsion to take the account online.  Contact 
 me on skype and I will try to help you out.  I find gmail to be a 
 ppain in the but.  Sometimes gmail goes off line  as far as the server is 
 conserned.
 HTH,.

 Matthew


 On Mar 5, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Jed Barton wrote:

 Hey guys,

 4 hours later on the phone with apple, and still no progress on 
 receiving email with my mac.
 I'm about ready to take this mac back at this point.  Can anyone 
 explain what possible issues might be going on?
 All the settings in apple mail look correct, but I can have the 
 computer sit there all day and not 1 piece of email will come in.
 Yet when I check it on the PC, it all comes down.  Yet, I'm getting 
 no errors when I do a get mail command.
 This is beyond frustrating guys.  Ever since I got this brand new 
 mac, I thought apples were just supposed to work.  I feel like I've 
 made no progress on this computer in the alst month.
 Does anyone else use gmail, and has anyone else had these issues of 
 getting no mail?

 Thanks,
 Jed

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Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Were you able to check your GMail settings on the web interface to determine 
whether or not iMap was enabled for your GMail account?  I have never had an 
issue with iMap on GMail and I use it on multiple accounts on multiple 
machines.  I much prefer iMap to Pop as I only need to read a message once thus 
not having multiple copies on my various machines.  I don't wish for you to 
have more issues and if you're totally comfortable with Pop, then great, but, 
in my opinion, iMap is a much better protocol.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2013-03-06, at 3:16 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:

 The solution was to go to pop instead of imap. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
 Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 5:15 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem
 
 Can you summarize what resolved the problem in case something similar ever 
 comes up again?
 
 CB
 
 On 3/6/13 2:11 PM, Jed Barton wrote:
 Hey there,
 We made some huge progress last night.  All is fixed.  Took us 2 hours but 
 we got it done.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
 Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:09 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem
 
 So one other general thing to check. If your PC is pulling stuff down via 
 POP, that removes messages from the server. That would mean that when your 
 mac checks for mail, nothing is there. Can you verify that your PC is off or 
 at least not sucking your inbox clean?
 
 CB
 
 On 3/5/13 2:55 PM, Jed Barton wrote:
 Cool man, I'll give you a yell on skype.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of matthew Dyer
 Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 2:10 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem
 
 Hi,  First of all,  do you have the account online.  This will need tio be
 online in order to   receive mail.  Are you able to send messages?  In the
 mail box menu there is an opsion to take the account online.  Contact 
 me on skype and I will try to help you out.  I find gmail to be a 
 ppain in the but.  Sometimes gmail goes off line  as far as the server is 
 conserned.
 HTH,.
 
 Matthew
 
 
 On Mar 5, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Jed Barton wrote:
 
 Hey guys,
 
 4 hours later on the phone with apple, and still no progress on 
 receiving email with my mac.
 I'm about ready to take this mac back at this point.  Can anyone 
 explain what possible issues might be going on?
 All the settings in apple mail look correct, but I can have the 
 computer sit there all day and not 1 piece of email will come in.
 Yet when I check it on the PC, it all comes down.  Yet, I'm getting 
 no errors when I do a get mail command.
 This is beyond frustrating guys.  Ever since I got this brand new 
 mac, I thought apples were just supposed to work.  I feel like I've 
 made no progress on this computer in the alst month.
 Does anyone else use gmail, and has anyone else had these issues of 
 getting no mail?
 
 Thanks,
 Jed
 
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About at my end of my rope with this mail problem

[Jed Barton]

Hey guys,

4 hours later on the phone with apple, and still no progress on receiving
email with my mac.
I'm about ready to take this mac back at this point.  Can anyone explain
what possible issues might be going on?
All the settings in apple mail look correct, but I can have the computer sit
there all day and not 1 piece of email will come in.
Yet when I check it on the PC, it all comes down.  Yet, I'm getting no
errors when I do a get mail command.
This is beyond frustrating guys.  Ever since I got this brand new mac, I
thought apples were just supposed to work.  I feel like I've made no
progress on this computer in the alst month.
Does anyone else use gmail, and has anyone else had these issues of getting
no mail?

Thanks,
Jed

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Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem

[Daniel C]

Hi,
It's Daniel, nice to see you on this list.
Do you know what error you get? Unless I missed it, I don't see the error 
message you're getting.
Also, do you put in the settings manually? Or do you go through the mail setup 
wizard?
If you do the mail setup wizard, the Gmail settings should work. Make sure you 
have pop enabled for all mail on the Gmail site.
If this can help, try the article from this site
http://macs.about.com/od/applications/qt/mailgmail.htm
P.S.: We do have one another on our Skype lists, so contact me off-list on 
Skype if you are still having trouble.
Good luck,
Daniel

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Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem

[Noel Romey]

I can't remember how it's done but you may either enable imap on gmail
s side or check their help docs from google to make sure settings jive
with osx. I use gmail with mail with no problems except for not
hearing new mail notification sounds but that's another issue
altogether

Noel

On Mar 5, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:

 Hey guys,

 4 hours later on the phone with apple, and still no progress on receiving
 email with my mac.
 I'm about ready to take this mac back at this point.  Can anyone explain
 what possible issues might be going on?
 All the settings in apple mail look correct, but I can have the computer sit
 there all day and not 1 piece of email will come in.
 Yet when I check it on the PC, it all comes down.  Yet, I'm getting no
 errors when I do a get mail command.
 This is beyond frustrating guys.  Ever since I got this brand new mac, I
 thought apples were just supposed to work.  I feel like I've made no
 progress on this computer in the alst month.
 Does anyone else use gmail, and has anyone else had these issues of getting
 no mail?

 Thanks,
 Jed

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Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem

[Noel Romey]

Actually imap is default when you use the setup wizzard so if you use
pop on yourpc And have it enabled on Gmail servers,imap will not work.
It must be enabled on the Gmail side.

Hope this helps.

Ner

On Mar 5, 2013, at 12:38 PM, Daniel C topdog2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 It's Daniel, nice to see you on this list.
 Do you know what error you get? Unless I missed it, I don't see the error 
 message you're getting.
 Also, do you put in the settings manually? Or do you go through the mail 
 setup wizard?
 If you do the mail setup wizard, the Gmail settings should work. Make sure 
 you have pop enabled for all mail on the Gmail site.
 If this can help, try the article from this site
 http://macs.about.com/od/applications/qt/mailgmail.htm
 P.S.: We do have one another on our Skype lists, so contact me off-list on 
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RE: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem

[Jed Barton]

That's the thing, I'm not getting any errors at all.
I go through the mail setup wizard.
Do you have skype, can we go through some stuff? 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel C
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 12:38 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem

Hi,
It's Daniel, nice to see you on this list.
Do you know what error you get? Unless I missed it, I don't see the error
message you're getting.
Also, do you put in the settings manually? Or do you go through the mail
setup wizard?
If you do the mail setup wizard, the Gmail settings should work. Make sure
you have pop enabled for all mail on the Gmail site.
If this can help, try the article from this site
http://macs.about.com/od/applications/qt/mailgmail.htm
P.S.: We do have one another on our Skype lists, so contact me off-list on
Skype if you are still having trouble.
Good luck,
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RE: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem

[Jed Barton]

That's another thing, I'm not hearing notification sounds either.  Any ideas
with that? 

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noel Romey
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 12:41 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem

I can't remember how it's done but you may either enable imap on gmail s
side or check their help docs from google to make sure settings jive with
osx. I use gmail with mail with no problems except for not hearing new mail
notification sounds but that's another issue altogether

Noel

On Mar 5, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:

 Hey guys,

 4 hours later on the phone with apple, and still no progress on 
 receiving email with my mac.
 I'm about ready to take this mac back at this point.  Can anyone 
 explain what possible issues might be going on?
 All the settings in apple mail look correct, but I can have the 
 computer sit there all day and not 1 piece of email will come in.
 Yet when I check it on the PC, it all comes down.  Yet, I'm getting no 
 errors when I do a get mail command.
 This is beyond frustrating guys.  Ever since I got this brand new mac, 
 I thought apples were just supposed to work.  I feel like I've made no 
 progress on this computer in the alst month.
 Does anyone else use gmail, and has anyone else had these issues of 
 getting no mail?

 Thanks,
 Jed

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RE: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem

[Kliphton]

I use Gmail, and I don't have those issues.  When I open apple mail my mails
comes in like it should.  Go through each system preference, and make sure
everything is set correctly, you never know, the slightest setting could be
off.

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 11:15 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem

Hey guys,

4 hours later on the phone with apple, and still no progress on receiving
email with my mac.
I'm about ready to take this mac back at this point.  Can anyone explain
what possible issues might be going on?
All the settings in apple mail look correct, but I can have the computer sit
there all day and not 1 piece of email will come in.
Yet when I check it on the PC, it all comes down.  Yet, I'm getting no
errors when I do a get mail command.
This is beyond frustrating guys.  Ever since I got this brand new mac, I
thought apples were just supposed to work.  I feel like I've made no
progress on this computer in the alst month.
Does anyone else use gmail, and has anyone else had these issues of getting
no mail?

Thanks,
Jed

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RE: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem

[Kliphton]

The default sound is very quiet, that's why I changed mine to something
else.  And now I hear it all the time!

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 11:52 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem

That's another thing, I'm not hearing notification sounds either.  Any ideas
with that? 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noel Romey
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 12:41 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem

I can't remember how it's done but you may either enable imap on gmail s
side or check their help docs from google to make sure settings jive with
osx. I use gmail with mail with no problems except for not hearing new mail
notification sounds but that's another issue altogether

Noel

On Mar 5, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:

 Hey guys,

 4 hours later on the phone with apple, and still no progress on 
 receiving email with my mac.
 I'm about ready to take this mac back at this point.  Can anyone 
 explain what possible issues might be going on?
 All the settings in apple mail look correct, but I can have the 
 computer sit there all day and not 1 piece of email will come in.
 Yet when I check it on the PC, it all comes down.  Yet, I'm getting no 
 errors when I do a get mail command.
 This is beyond frustrating guys.  Ever since I got this brand new mac, 
 I thought apples were just supposed to work.  I feel like I've made no 
 progress on this computer in the alst month.
 Does anyone else use gmail, and has anyone else had these issues of 
 getting no mail?

 Thanks,
 Jed

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Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem

[matthew Dyer]

Hi,  First of all,  do you have the account online.  This will need tio be 
online in order to   receive mail.  Are you able to send messages?  In the mail 
box menu there is an opsion to take the account online.  Contact me on skype 
and I will try to help you out.  I find gmail to be a ppain in the but.  
Sometimes gmail goes off line  as far as the server is conserned.  HTH,.

Matthew


On Mar 5, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Jed Barton wrote:

 Hey guys,
 
 4 hours later on the phone with apple, and still no progress on receiving
 email with my mac.
 I'm about ready to take this mac back at this point.  Can anyone explain
 what possible issues might be going on?
 All the settings in apple mail look correct, but I can have the computer sit
 there all day and not 1 piece of email will come in.
 Yet when I check it on the PC, it all comes down.  Yet, I'm getting no
 errors when I do a get mail command.
 This is beyond frustrating guys.  Ever since I got this brand new mac, I
 thought apples were just supposed to work.  I feel like I've made no
 progress on this computer in the alst month.
 Does anyone else use gmail, and has anyone else had these issues of getting
 no mail?
 
 Thanks,
 Jed
 
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RE: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem

[Jed Barton]

Cool man, I'll give you a yell on skype. 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of matthew Dyer
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 2:10 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem

Hi,  First of all,  do you have the account online.  This will need tio be
online in order to   receive mail.  Are you able to send messages?  In the
mail box menu there is an opsion to take the account online.  Contact me on
skype and I will try to help you out.  I find gmail to be a ppain in the
but.  Sometimes gmail goes off line  as far as the server is conserned.
HTH,.

Matthew


On Mar 5, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Jed Barton wrote:

 Hey guys,
 
 4 hours later on the phone with apple, and still no progress on 
 receiving email with my mac.
 I'm about ready to take this mac back at this point.  Can anyone 
 explain what possible issues might be going on?
 All the settings in apple mail look correct, but I can have the 
 computer sit there all day and not 1 piece of email will come in.
 Yet when I check it on the PC, it all comes down.  Yet, I'm getting no 
 errors when I do a get mail command.
 This is beyond frustrating guys.  Ever since I got this brand new mac, 
 I thought apples were just supposed to work.  I feel like I've made no 
 progress on this computer in the alst month.
 Does anyone else use gmail, and has anyone else had these issues of 
 getting no mail?
 
 Thanks,
 Jed
 
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Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem

[David McLean]

Do you have another email address?  One assigned when you signed up with your 
ISP?
My point is to try email without using gmail.  If that works the problem is 
narrowed down to a set up issue with gmail.
I assume you can get to the internet without a problem?  That wil tell us 
whether you have a network connection.  Just want to eliminate the obvious.
On Mar 5, 2013, at 12:52 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:

 That's another thing, I'm not hearing notification sounds either.  Any ideas
 with that? 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noel Romey
 Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 12:41 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem
 
 I can't remember how it's done but you may either enable imap on gmail s
 side or check their help docs from google to make sure settings jive with
 osx. I use gmail with mail with no problems except for not hearing new mail
 notification sounds but that's another issue altogether
 
 Noel
 
 On Mar 5, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:
 
 Hey guys,
 
 4 hours later on the phone with apple, and still no progress on 
 receiving email with my mac.
 I'm about ready to take this mac back at this point.  Can anyone 
 explain what possible issues might be going on?
 All the settings in apple mail look correct, but I can have the 
 computer sit there all day and not 1 piece of email will come in.
 Yet when I check it on the PC, it all comes down.  Yet, I'm getting no 
 errors when I do a get mail command.
 This is beyond frustrating guys.  Ever since I got this brand new mac, 
 I thought apples were just supposed to work.  I feel like I've made no 
 progress on this computer in the alst month.
 Does anyone else use gmail, and has anyone else had these issues of 
 getting no mail?
 
 Thanks,
 Jed
 
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Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem

[Buddy Brannan]

Hi,

Gmail you say?

Could be that gmail is blocking you. Two things:

First, you'll want to be sure that imap and POP3 are enabled in your gmail 
account. If they aren't, it won't work. You'll need to do this from the gmail 
settings page. 

Second, if you've got pop3 and imap set up, it could be that google is blocking 
you anyway. If so, you'll want to go to this page:
http://www.google.com/accounts/DisplayUnlockCaptcha

And follow the instructions.
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On Mar 5, 2013, at 3:35 PM, David McLean david.mcl...@cox.net wrote:

 Do you have another email address?  One assigned when you signed up with your 
 ISP?
 My point is to try email without using gmail.  If that works the problem is 
 narrowed down to a set up issue with gmail.
 I assume you can get to the internet without a problem?  That wil tell us 
 whether you have a network connection.  Just want to eliminate the obvious.
 On Mar 5, 2013, at 12:52 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:
 
 That's another thing, I'm not hearing notification sounds either.  Any ideas
 with that? 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noel Romey
 Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 12:41 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem
 
 I can't remember how it's done but you may either enable imap on gmail s
 side or check their help docs from google to make sure settings jive with
 osx. I use gmail with mail with no problems except for not hearing new mail
 notification sounds but that's another issue altogether
 
 Noel
 
 On Mar 5, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:
 
 Hey guys,
 
 4 hours later on the phone with apple, and still no progress on 
 receiving email with my mac.
 I'm about ready to take this mac back at this point.  Can anyone 
 explain what possible issues might be going on?
 All the settings in apple mail look correct, but I can have the 
 computer sit there all day and not 1 piece of email will come in.
 Yet when I check it on the PC, it all comes down.  Yet, I'm getting no 
 errors when I do a get mail command.
 This is beyond frustrating guys.  Ever since I got this brand new mac, 
 I thought apples were just supposed to work.  I feel like I've made no 
 progress on this computer in the alst month.
 Does anyone else use gmail, and has anyone else had these issues of 
 getting no mail?
 
 Thanks,
 Jed
 
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RE: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem

[Jed Barton]

Wow, can you actually have both pop and imap enabled?
I thought it was 1 or the other.
Have you had these issues before yourself?
I can send mail all day from the mac, and the pc has never had an issue.
Thoughts?

Thanks,
Jed 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Buddy Brannan
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 4:54 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem

Hi,

Gmail you say?

Could be that gmail is blocking you. Two things:

First, you'll want to be sure that imap and POP3 are enabled in your gmail
account. If they aren't, it won't work. You'll need to do this from the
gmail settings page. 

Second, if you've got pop3 and imap set up, it could be that google is
blocking you anyway. If so, you'll want to go to this page:
http://www.google.com/accounts/DisplayUnlockCaptcha

And follow the instructions.
--
Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY



On Mar 5, 2013, at 3:35 PM, David McLean david.mcl...@cox.net wrote:

 Do you have another email address?  One assigned when you signed up with
your ISP?
 My point is to try email without using gmail.  If that works the problem
is narrowed down to a set up issue with gmail.
 I assume you can get to the internet without a problem?  That wil tell us
whether you have a network connection.  Just want to eliminate the obvious.
 On Mar 5, 2013, at 12:52 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:
 
 That's another thing, I'm not hearing notification sounds either.  
 Any ideas with that?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noel Romey
 Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 12:41 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem
 
 I can't remember how it's done but you may either enable imap on 
 gmail s side or check their help docs from google to make sure 
 settings jive with osx. I use gmail with mail with no problems except 
 for not hearing new mail notification sounds but that's another issue 
 altogether
 
 Noel
 
 On Mar 5, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:
 
 Hey guys,
 
 4 hours later on the phone with apple, and still no progress on 
 receiving email with my mac.
 I'm about ready to take this mac back at this point.  Can anyone 
 explain what possible issues might be going on?
 All the settings in apple mail look correct, but I can have the 
 computer sit there all day and not 1 piece of email will come in.
 Yet when I check it on the PC, it all comes down.  Yet, I'm getting 
 no errors when I do a get mail command.
 This is beyond frustrating guys.  Ever since I got this brand new 
 mac, I thought apples were just supposed to work.  I feel like I've 
 made no progress on this computer in the alst month.
 Does anyone else use gmail, and has anyone else had these issues of 
 getting no mail?
 
 Thanks,
 Jed
 
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RE: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem

[Jed Barton]

Hey buddy,
It said that page is in valid.
Any ideas? 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Buddy Brannan
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 4:54 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem

Hi,

Gmail you say?

Could be that gmail is blocking you. Two things:

First, you'll want to be sure that imap and POP3 are enabled in your gmail
account. If they aren't, it won't work. You'll need to do this from the
gmail settings page. 

Second, if you've got pop3 and imap set up, it could be that google is
blocking you anyway. If so, you'll want to go to this page:
http://www.google.com/accounts/DisplayUnlockCaptcha

And follow the instructions.
--
Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY



On Mar 5, 2013, at 3:35 PM, David McLean david.mcl...@cox.net wrote:

 Do you have another email address?  One assigned when you signed up with
your ISP?
 My point is to try email without using gmail.  If that works the problem
is narrowed down to a set up issue with gmail.
 I assume you can get to the internet without a problem?  That wil tell us
whether you have a network connection.  Just want to eliminate the obvious.
 On Mar 5, 2013, at 12:52 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:
 
 That's another thing, I'm not hearing notification sounds either.  
 Any ideas with that?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noel Romey
 Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 12:41 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem
 
 I can't remember how it's done but you may either enable imap on 
 gmail s side or check their help docs from google to make sure 
 settings jive with osx. I use gmail with mail with no problems except 
 for not hearing new mail notification sounds but that's another issue 
 altogether
 
 Noel
 
 On Mar 5, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:
 
 Hey guys,
 
 4 hours later on the phone with apple, and still no progress on 
 receiving email with my mac.
 I'm about ready to take this mac back at this point.  Can anyone 
 explain what possible issues might be going on?
 All the settings in apple mail look correct, but I can have the 
 computer sit there all day and not 1 piece of email will come in.
 Yet when I check it on the PC, it all comes down.  Yet, I'm getting 
 no errors when I do a get mail command.
 This is beyond frustrating guys.  Ever since I got this brand new 
 mac, I thought apples were just supposed to work.  I feel like I've 
 made no progress on this computer in the alst month.
 Does anyone else use gmail, and has anyone else had these issues of 
 getting no mail?
 
 Thanks,
 Jed
 
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Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem

[Buddy Brannan]

Yes, you can. But if you are trying to check POP with only imap available or 
vice versa, it won't work. Also, I believe that POP has to be secure POP. Imap, 
maybe not, but in any case, go to that URL I gave you to unblock, then check 
your mail again when it tells you to.
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Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY



On Mar 5, 2013, at 5:12 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:

 Wow, can you actually have both pop and imap enabled?
 I thought it was 1 or the other.
 Have you had these issues before yourself?
 I can send mail all day from the mac, and the pc has never had an issue.
 Thoughts?
 
 Thanks,
 Jed 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Buddy Brannan
 Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 4:54 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem
 
 Hi,
 
 Gmail you say?
 
 Could be that gmail is blocking you. Two things:
 
 First, you'll want to be sure that imap and POP3 are enabled in your gmail
 account. If they aren't, it won't work. You'll need to do this from the
 gmail settings page. 
 
 Second, if you've got pop3 and imap set up, it could be that google is
 blocking you anyway. If so, you'll want to go to this page:
 http://www.google.com/accounts/DisplayUnlockCaptcha
 
 And follow the instructions.
 --
 Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
 Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
 
 
 
 On Mar 5, 2013, at 3:35 PM, David McLean david.mcl...@cox.net wrote:
 
 Do you have another email address?  One assigned when you signed up with
 your ISP?
 My point is to try email without using gmail.  If that works the problem
 is narrowed down to a set up issue with gmail.
 I assume you can get to the internet without a problem?  That wil tell us
 whether you have a network connection.  Just want to eliminate the obvious.
 On Mar 5, 2013, at 12:52 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:
 
 That's another thing, I'm not hearing notification sounds either.  
 Any ideas with that?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noel Romey
 Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 12:41 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem
 
 I can't remember how it's done but you may either enable imap on 
 gmail s side or check their help docs from google to make sure 
 settings jive with osx. I use gmail with mail with no problems except 
 for not hearing new mail notification sounds but that's another issue 
 altogether
 
 Noel
 
 On Mar 5, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:
 
 Hey guys,
 
 4 hours later on the phone with apple, and still no progress on 
 receiving email with my mac.
 I'm about ready to take this mac back at this point.  Can anyone 
 explain what possible issues might be going on?
 All the settings in apple mail look correct, but I can have the 
 computer sit there all day and not 1 piece of email will come in.
 Yet when I check it on the PC, it all comes down.  Yet, I'm getting 
 no errors when I do a get mail command.
 This is beyond frustrating guys.  Ever since I got this brand new 
 mac, I thought apples were just supposed to work.  I feel like I've 
 made no progress on this computer in the alst month.
 Does anyone else use gmail, and has anyone else had these issues of 
 getting no mail?
 
 Thanks,
 Jed
 
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Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem

[Buddy Brannan]

Really?

Huh. I might've pated it wrong, half a second.


Nope, it came up right away for me, and asked me to log in. 

Let me paste it again. Maybe I accidentally typed something else in the URL.

http://www.google.com/accounts/DisplayUnlockCaptcha


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On Mar 5, 2013, at 5:15 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:

 Hey buddy,
 It said that page is in valid.
 Any ideas? 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Buddy Brannan
 Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 4:54 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem
 
 Hi,
 
 Gmail you say?
 
 Could be that gmail is blocking you. Two things:
 
 First, you'll want to be sure that imap and POP3 are enabled in your gmail
 account. If they aren't, it won't work. You'll need to do this from the
 gmail settings page. 
 
 Second, if you've got pop3 and imap set up, it could be that google is
 blocking you anyway. If so, you'll want to go to this page:
 http://www.google.com/accounts/DisplayUnlockCaptcha
 
 And follow the instructions.
 --
 Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
 Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
 
 
 
 On Mar 5, 2013, at 3:35 PM, David McLean david.mcl...@cox.net wrote:
 
 Do you have another email address?  One assigned when you signed up with
 your ISP?
 My point is to try email without using gmail.  If that works the problem
 is narrowed down to a set up issue with gmail.
 I assume you can get to the internet without a problem?  That wil tell us
 whether you have a network connection.  Just want to eliminate the obvious.
 On Mar 5, 2013, at 12:52 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:
 
 That's another thing, I'm not hearing notification sounds either.  
 Any ideas with that?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noel Romey
 Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 12:41 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem
 
 I can't remember how it's done but you may either enable imap on 
 gmail s side or check their help docs from google to make sure 
 settings jive with osx. I use gmail with mail with no problems except 
 for not hearing new mail notification sounds but that's another issue 
 altogether
 
 Noel
 
 On Mar 5, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:
 
 Hey guys,
 
 4 hours later on the phone with apple, and still no progress on 
 receiving email with my mac.
 I'm about ready to take this mac back at this point.  Can anyone 
 explain what possible issues might be going on?
 All the settings in apple mail look correct, but I can have the 
 computer sit there all day and not 1 piece of email will come in.
 Yet when I check it on the PC, it all comes down.  Yet, I'm getting 
 no errors when I do a get mail command.
 This is beyond frustrating guys.  Ever since I got this brand new 
 mac, I thought apples were just supposed to work.  I feel like I've 
 made no progress on this computer in the alst month.
 Does anyone else use gmail, and has anyone else had these issues of 
 getting no mail?
 
 Thanks,
 Jed
 
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RE: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem

[Jed Barton]

That url doesn't work, it said page not found. 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Buddy Brannan
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 5:18 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem

Yes, you can. But if you are trying to check POP with only imap available or
vice versa, it won't work. Also, I believe that POP has to be secure POP.
Imap, maybe not, but in any case, go to that URL I gave you to unblock, then
check your mail again when it tells you to.
--
Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY



On Mar 5, 2013, at 5:12 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:

 Wow, can you actually have both pop and imap enabled?
 I thought it was 1 or the other.
 Have you had these issues before yourself?
 I can send mail all day from the mac, and the pc has never had an issue.
 Thoughts?
 
 Thanks,
 Jed
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Buddy Brannan
 Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 4:54 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem
 
 Hi,
 
 Gmail you say?
 
 Could be that gmail is blocking you. Two things:
 
 First, you'll want to be sure that imap and POP3 are enabled in your 
 gmail account. If they aren't, it won't work. You'll need to do this 
 from the gmail settings page.
 
 Second, if you've got pop3 and imap set up, it could be that google is 
 blocking you anyway. If so, you'll want to go to this page:
 http://www.google.com/accounts/DisplayUnlockCaptcha
 
 And follow the instructions.
 --
 Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
 Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
 
 
 
 On Mar 5, 2013, at 3:35 PM, David McLean david.mcl...@cox.net wrote:
 
 Do you have another email address?  One assigned when you signed up 
 with
 your ISP?
 My point is to try email without using gmail.  If that works the 
 problem
 is narrowed down to a set up issue with gmail.
 I assume you can get to the internet without a problem?  That wil 
 tell us
 whether you have a network connection.  Just want to eliminate the
obvious.
 On Mar 5, 2013, at 12:52 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:
 
 That's another thing, I'm not hearing notification sounds either.  
 Any ideas with that?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noel Romey
 Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 12:41 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem
 
 I can't remember how it's done but you may either enable imap on 
 gmail s side or check their help docs from google to make sure 
 settings jive with osx. I use gmail with mail with no problems 
 except for not hearing new mail notification sounds but that's 
 another issue altogether
 
 Noel
 
 On Mar 5, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:
 
 Hey guys,
 
 4 hours later on the phone with apple, and still no progress on 
 receiving email with my mac.
 I'm about ready to take this mac back at this point.  Can anyone 
 explain what possible issues might be going on?
 All the settings in apple mail look correct, but I can have the 
 computer sit there all day and not 1 piece of email will come in.
 Yet when I check it on the PC, it all comes down.  Yet, I'm getting 
 no errors when I do a get mail command.
 This is beyond frustrating guys.  Ever since I got this brand new 
 mac, I thought apples were just supposed to work.  I feel like I've 
 made no progress on this computer in the alst month.
 Does anyone else use gmail, and has anyone else had these issues of 
 getting no mail?
 
 Thanks,
 Jed
 
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RE: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem

[Jed Barton]

Yea the 1 you sent me didn't work 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Buddy Brannan
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 5:20 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem

Really?

Huh. I might've pated it wrong, half a second.


Nope, it came up right away for me, and asked me to log in. 

Let me paste it again. Maybe I accidentally typed something else in the URL.

http://www.google.com/accounts/DisplayUnlockCaptcha


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On Mar 5, 2013, at 5:15 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:

 Hey buddy,
 It said that page is in valid.
 Any ideas? 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Buddy Brannan
 Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 4:54 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem
 
 Hi,
 
 Gmail you say?
 
 Could be that gmail is blocking you. Two things:
 
 First, you'll want to be sure that imap and POP3 are enabled in your 
 gmail account. If they aren't, it won't work. You'll need to do this 
 from the gmail settings page.
 
 Second, if you've got pop3 and imap set up, it could be that google is 
 blocking you anyway. If so, you'll want to go to this page:
 http://www.google.com/accounts/DisplayUnlockCaptcha
 
 And follow the instructions.
 --
 Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
 Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
 
 
 
 On Mar 5, 2013, at 3:35 PM, David McLean david.mcl...@cox.net wrote:
 
 Do you have another email address?  One assigned when you signed up 
 with
 your ISP?
 My point is to try email without using gmail.  If that works the 
 problem
 is narrowed down to a set up issue with gmail.
 I assume you can get to the internet without a problem?  That wil 
 tell us
 whether you have a network connection.  Just want to eliminate the
obvious.
 On Mar 5, 2013, at 12:52 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:
 
 That's another thing, I'm not hearing notification sounds either.  
 Any ideas with that?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noel Romey
 Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 12:41 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem
 
 I can't remember how it's done but you may either enable imap on 
 gmail s side or check their help docs from google to make sure 
 settings jive with osx. I use gmail with mail with no problems 
 except for not hearing new mail notification sounds but that's 
 another issue altogether
 
 Noel
 
 On Mar 5, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:
 
 Hey guys,
 
 4 hours later on the phone with apple, and still no progress on 
 receiving email with my mac.
 I'm about ready to take this mac back at this point.  Can anyone 
 explain what possible issues might be going on?
 All the settings in apple mail look correct, but I can have the 
 computer sit there all day and not 1 piece of email will come in.
 Yet when I check it on the PC, it all comes down.  Yet, I'm getting 
 no errors when I do a get mail command.
 This is beyond frustrating guys.  Ever since I got this brand new 
 mac, I thought apples were just supposed to work.  I feel like I've 
 made no progress on this computer in the alst month.
 Does anyone else use gmail, and has anyone else had these issues of 
 getting no mail?
 
 Thanks,
 Jed
 
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Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem

[Buddy Brannan]

Huh. I don't know. It works every time for me. Something being lost in 
translation maybe? 
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On Mar 5, 2013, at 5:23 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:

 That url doesn't work, it said page not found. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Buddy Brannan
 Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 5:18 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem
 
 Yes, you can. But if you are trying to check POP with only imap available or
 vice versa, it won't work. Also, I believe that POP has to be secure POP.
 Imap, maybe not, but in any case, go to that URL I gave you to unblock, then
 check your mail again when it tells you to.
 --
 Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
 Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
 
 
 
 On Mar 5, 2013, at 5:12 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:
 
 Wow, can you actually have both pop and imap enabled?
 I thought it was 1 or the other.
 Have you had these issues before yourself?
 I can send mail all day from the mac, and the pc has never had an issue.
 Thoughts?
 
 Thanks,
 Jed
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Buddy Brannan
 Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 4:54 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem
 
 Hi,
 
 Gmail you say?
 
 Could be that gmail is blocking you. Two things:
 
 First, you'll want to be sure that imap and POP3 are enabled in your 
 gmail account. If they aren't, it won't work. You'll need to do this 
 from the gmail settings page.
 
 Second, if you've got pop3 and imap set up, it could be that google is 
 blocking you anyway. If so, you'll want to go to this page:
 http://www.google.com/accounts/DisplayUnlockCaptcha
 
 And follow the instructions.
 --
 Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
 Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
 
 
 
 On Mar 5, 2013, at 3:35 PM, David McLean david.mcl...@cox.net wrote:
 
 Do you have another email address?  One assigned when you signed up 
 with
 your ISP?
 My point is to try email without using gmail.  If that works the 
 problem
 is narrowed down to a set up issue with gmail.
 I assume you can get to the internet without a problem?  That wil 
 tell us
 whether you have a network connection.  Just want to eliminate the
 obvious.
 On Mar 5, 2013, at 12:52 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:
 
 That's another thing, I'm not hearing notification sounds either.  
 Any ideas with that?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noel Romey
 Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 12:41 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem
 
 I can't remember how it's done but you may either enable imap on 
 gmail s side or check their help docs from google to make sure 
 settings jive with osx. I use gmail with mail with no problems 
 except for not hearing new mail notification sounds but that's 
 another issue altogether
 
 Noel
 
 On Mar 5, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:
 
 Hey guys,
 
 4 hours later on the phone with apple, and still no progress on 
 receiving email with my mac.
 I'm about ready to take this mac back at this point.  Can anyone 
 explain what possible issues might be going on?
 All the settings in apple mail look correct, but I can have the 
 computer sit there all day and not 1 piece of email will come in.
 Yet when I check it on the PC, it all comes down.  Yet, I'm getting 
 no errors when I do a get mail command.
 This is beyond frustrating guys.  Ever since I got this brand new 
 mac, I thought apples were just supposed to work.  I feel like I've 
 made no progress on this computer in the alst month.
 Does anyone else use gmail, and has anyone else had these issues of 
 getting no mail?
 
 Thanks,
 Jed
 
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Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem

[Maria Joe Chapman]

HI.  it works here too.


God Bless! Maria from australia
 Newbie mac user.
bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
will get you fb as well as email  iMessage.   
skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl 









On 06/03/2013, at 9:20 AM, Buddy Brannan bu...@brannan.name wrote:

 Really?
 
 Huh. I might've pated it wrong, half a second.
 
 
 Nope, it came up right away for me, and asked me to log in. 
 
 Let me paste it again. Maybe I accidentally typed something else in the URL.
 
 http://www.google.com/accounts/DisplayUnlockCaptcha
 
 
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 Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
 
 
 
 On Mar 5, 2013, at 5:15 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:
 
 Hey buddy,
 It said that page is in valid.
 Any ideas? 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Buddy Brannan
 Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 4:54 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem
 
 Hi,
 
 Gmail you say?
 
 Could be that gmail is blocking you. Two things:
 
 First, you'll want to be sure that imap and POP3 are enabled in your gmail
 account. If they aren't, it won't work. You'll need to do this from the
 gmail settings page. 
 
 Second, if you've got pop3 and imap set up, it could be that google is
 blocking you anyway. If so, you'll want to go to this page:
 http://www.google.com/accounts/DisplayUnlockCaptcha
 
 And follow the instructions.
 --
 Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
 Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
 
 
 
 On Mar 5, 2013, at 3:35 PM, David McLean david.mcl...@cox.net wrote:
 
 Do you have another email address?  One assigned when you signed up with
 your ISP?
 My point is to try email without using gmail.  If that works the problem
 is narrowed down to a set up issue with gmail.
 I assume you can get to the internet without a problem?  That wil tell us
 whether you have a network connection.  Just want to eliminate the obvious.
 On Mar 5, 2013, at 12:52 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:
 
 That's another thing, I'm not hearing notification sounds either.  
 Any ideas with that?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noel Romey
 Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 12:41 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem
 
 I can't remember how it's done but you may either enable imap on 
 gmail s side or check their help docs from google to make sure 
 settings jive with osx. I use gmail with mail with no problems except 
 for not hearing new mail notification sounds but that's another issue 
 altogether
 
 Noel
 
 On Mar 5, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:
 
 Hey guys,
 
 4 hours later on the phone with apple, and still no progress on 
 receiving email with my mac.
 I'm about ready to take this mac back at this point.  Can anyone 
 explain what possible issues might be going on?
 All the settings in apple mail look correct, but I can have the 
 computer sit there all day and not 1 piece of email will come in.
 Yet when I check it on the PC, it all comes down.  Yet, I'm getting 
 no errors when I do a get mail command.
 This is beyond frustrating guys.  Ever since I got this brand new 
 mac, I thought apples were just supposed to work.  I feel like I've 
 made no progress on this computer in the alst month.
 Does anyone else use gmail, and has anyone else had these issues of 
 getting no mail?
 
 Thanks,
 Jed
 
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RE: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem

[Jed Barton]

Do you have skype?
We can go through some stuff? 

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Buddy Brannan
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 5:25 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem

Huh. I don't know. It works every time for me. Something being lost in
translation maybe? 
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Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY



On Mar 5, 2013, at 5:23 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:

 That url doesn't work, it said page not found. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Buddy Brannan
 Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 5:18 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem
 
 Yes, you can. But if you are trying to check POP with only imap 
 available or vice versa, it won't work. Also, I believe that POP has to be
secure POP.
 Imap, maybe not, but in any case, go to that URL I gave you to 
 unblock, then check your mail again when it tells you to.
 --
 Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
 Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
 
 
 
 On Mar 5, 2013, at 5:12 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:
 
 Wow, can you actually have both pop and imap enabled?
 I thought it was 1 or the other.
 Have you had these issues before yourself?
 I can send mail all day from the mac, and the pc has never had an issue.
 Thoughts?
 
 Thanks,
 Jed
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Buddy Brannan
 Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 4:54 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem
 
 Hi,
 
 Gmail you say?
 
 Could be that gmail is blocking you. Two things:
 
 First, you'll want to be sure that imap and POP3 are enabled in your 
 gmail account. If they aren't, it won't work. You'll need to do this 
 from the gmail settings page.
 
 Second, if you've got pop3 and imap set up, it could be that google 
 is blocking you anyway. If so, you'll want to go to this page:
 http://www.google.com/accounts/DisplayUnlockCaptcha
 
 And follow the instructions.
 --
 Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
 Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
 
 
 
 On Mar 5, 2013, at 3:35 PM, David McLean david.mcl...@cox.net wrote:
 
 Do you have another email address?  One assigned when you signed up 
 with
 your ISP?
 My point is to try email without using gmail.  If that works the 
 problem
 is narrowed down to a set up issue with gmail.
 I assume you can get to the internet without a problem?  That wil 
 tell us
 whether you have a network connection.  Just want to eliminate the
 obvious.
 On Mar 5, 2013, at 12:52 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:
 
 That's another thing, I'm not hearing notification sounds either.  
 Any ideas with that?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noel Romey
 Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 12:41 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem
 
 I can't remember how it's done but you may either enable imap on 
 gmail s side or check their help docs from google to make sure 
 settings jive with osx. I use gmail with mail with no problems 
 except for not hearing new mail notification sounds but that's 
 another issue altogether
 
 Noel
 
 On Mar 5, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:
 
 Hey guys,
 
 4 hours later on the phone with apple, and still no progress on 
 receiving email with my mac.
 I'm about ready to take this mac back at this point.  Can anyone 
 explain what possible issues might be going on?
 All the settings in apple mail look correct, but I can have the 
 computer sit there all day and not 1 piece of email will come in.
 Yet when I check it on the PC, it all comes down.  Yet, I'm 
 getting no errors when I do a get mail command.
 This is beyond frustrating guys.  Ever since I got this brand new 
 mac, I thought apples were just supposed to work.  I feel like 
 I've made no progress on this computer in the alst month.
 Does anyone else use gmail, and has anyone else had these issues 
 of getting no mail?
 
 Thanks,
 Jed
 
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More on this mail problem

[Jed Barton]

Hey guys,

I simply do not understand why I am the only person on this list having
issues with getting my email from gmail.
The real killer is, someone on here made a suggestion I change 1 thing the
1st day I had my mac, and I don't even know what it was. 
It worked for a while, I have no idea, but it worked.  This person indicated
they had trouble with imap.
Upon recommendation of apple, I deleted the account, and now we're back at
square 1.

I've been back and fourth so many times with this I don't know whether I'm
coming or going any more.
To recap everyone, I simply am not receiving mail from my gmail account.  I
get hundreds of messages a day, but none of them are showing up on my mac.
I go to create an account on the mac, and go through all the standard stuff
user name, password, bla bla.
Yet, no mail, but I can send mail all day cause I type a message hit the
command to send, and I hear the swish.
Is anyone available to go through things, is there something I'm missing?
I can use adium to chat, surf the web, but it's almost like this mac is
being thrown in to orbit when I check for mail.  All it says is get new
mail, and nothing else.
Yet I'll shut the mac down, fire up the PC, and all my mail is there.  Any
thoughts guys?

Thanks,
Jed

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Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem

[matthew Dyer]

Hey Just tried it and it took me rite to it and discuvered that there is a 
continue button at the bottom of the page.

Matthew


On Mar 5, 2013, at 5:23 PM, Jed Barton wrote:

 That url doesn't work, it said page not found. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Buddy Brannan
 Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 5:18 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem
 
 Yes, you can. But if you are trying to check POP with only imap available or
 vice versa, it won't work. Also, I believe that POP has to be secure POP.
 Imap, maybe not, but in any case, go to that URL I gave you to unblock, then
 check your mail again when it tells you to.
 --
 Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
 Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
 
 
 
 On Mar 5, 2013, at 5:12 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:
 
 Wow, can you actually have both pop and imap enabled?
 I thought it was 1 or the other.
 Have you had these issues before yourself?
 I can send mail all day from the mac, and the pc has never had an issue.
 Thoughts?
 
 Thanks,
 Jed
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Buddy Brannan
 Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 4:54 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem
 
 Hi,
 
 Gmail you say?
 
 Could be that gmail is blocking you. Two things:
 
 First, you'll want to be sure that imap and POP3 are enabled in your 
 gmail account. If they aren't, it won't work. You'll need to do this 
 from the gmail settings page.
 
 Second, if you've got pop3 and imap set up, it could be that google is 
 blocking you anyway. If so, you'll want to go to this page:
 http://www.google.com/accounts/DisplayUnlockCaptcha
 
 And follow the instructions.
 --
 Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
 Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
 
 
 
 On Mar 5, 2013, at 3:35 PM, David McLean david.mcl...@cox.net wrote:
 
 Do you have another email address?  One assigned when you signed up 
 with
 your ISP?
 My point is to try email without using gmail.  If that works the 
 problem
 is narrowed down to a set up issue with gmail.
 I assume you can get to the internet without a problem?  That wil 
 tell us
 whether you have a network connection.  Just want to eliminate the
 obvious.
 On Mar 5, 2013, at 12:52 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:
 
 That's another thing, I'm not hearing notification sounds either.  
 Any ideas with that?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noel Romey
 Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 12:41 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: About at my end of my rope with this mail problem
 
 I can't remember how it's done but you may either enable imap on 
 gmail s side or check their help docs from google to make sure 
 settings jive with osx. I use gmail with mail with no problems 
 except for not hearing new mail notification sounds but that's 
 another issue altogether
 
 Noel
 
 On Mar 5, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:
 
 Hey guys,
 
 4 hours later on the phone with apple, and still no progress on 
 receiving email with my mac.
 I'm about ready to take this mac back at this point.  Can anyone 
 explain what possible issues might be going on?
 All the settings in apple mail look correct, but I can have the 
 computer sit there all day and not 1 piece of email will come in.
 Yet when I check it on the PC, it all comes down.  Yet, I'm getting 
 no errors when I do a get mail command.
 This is beyond frustrating guys.  Ever since I got this brand new 
 mac, I thought apples were just supposed to work.  I feel like I've 
 made no progress on this computer in the alst month.
 Does anyone else use gmail, and has anyone else had these issues of 
 getting no mail?
 
 Thanks,
 Jed
 
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Re: More on this mail problem

[Ricardo Walker]

Hello,

by any chance, do you own an Apple device running IOS?  An iPhone iPad, or iPod 
touch?  If so, you could transfer your mail account settings straight from the 
phone to your Mac.

Just a thought.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Mar 5, 2013, at 6:58 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:

 Hey guys,
 
 I simply do not understand why I am the only person on this list having
 issues with getting my email from gmail.
 The real killer is, someone on here made a suggestion I change 1 thing the
 1st day I had my mac, and I don't even know what it was. 
 It worked for a while, I have no idea, but it worked.  This person indicated
 they had trouble with imap.
 Upon recommendation of apple, I deleted the account, and now we're back at
 square 1.
 
 I've been back and fourth so many times with this I don't know whether I'm
 coming or going any more.
 To recap everyone, I simply am not receiving mail from my gmail account.  I
 get hundreds of messages a day, but none of them are showing up on my mac.
 I go to create an account on the mac, and go through all the standard stuff
 user name, password, bla bla.
 Yet, no mail, but I can send mail all day cause I type a message hit the
 command to send, and I hear the swish.
 Is anyone available to go through things, is there something I'm missing?
 I can use adium to chat, surf the web, but it's almost like this mac is
 being thrown in to orbit when I check for mail.  All it says is get new
 mail, and nothing else.
 Yet I'll shut the mac down, fire up the PC, and all my mail is there.  Any
 thoughts guys?
 
 Thanks,
 Jed
 
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Re: More on this mail problem

[Mark Baxter]

You tell it to get new mail, and do you hear a little chinking sound that 
indicates no new mail, or what?  I'm curious if somehow the port is not set to 
port 25 any more.  Jed, have you gone through and played with the ports for 
POP3 and SMTP, or the port for IMAP?


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QuickTime plugging Apple Mail problem.

[Danny Noonan]

I've asked once before but thought I'd ask one more time as this issue is 
getting worse.  Several times a day, mail will crash telling me there's a 
problem with the quicktime mail plugging and restart mail.

Is this a known issue? Any solutions round or is there a way I can attempt to 
track down where why how and the like?

Many thanks.
Danny:

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Re: I Am Not Alone and Resolution To Mail Problem Discovered

[Steve Holmes]

Humm, that's strange.  I have two gmail controled accounts here and I just 
looked in my Mail setting preferences and I keep all messages on the server.  
When I send messages, they normally will be kept in the Sent folder on gmail 
and that is mapped to my Sent box in Apple mail.  I also have filters set up on 
gmail for all my lists and when I send a message to the list, I end up with a 
copy of that message in the respective folder for that list.  All has been 
working fine for me.  I use IMAP and am running latest version of Mail under 
Mountain Lion.

It seems that there are so many different ways to configure Mail on the Mac; no 
wonder people keep having issues and others can't duplicate them due to 
configuration differences.

On Oct 11, 2012, at 6:00 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:

 Hello Christopher,
 
 To change this setting,
 
 1.
 Go into the Mail Client and open preferences.  
 
 2.
 In the Accounts tab, select the account you wish to change.
 
 3.
 Then, select the mailbox behavior tab and uncheck the Keep sent messages on
 server button.
 
 Mark
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris
 Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 11:51 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: I Am Not Alone and Resolution To Mail Problem Discovered
 
 Hello all so where can we find this option then? Thanks!
 
 
 Christopher Hallsworth
 
 On 11/10/2012 19:21, M. Taylor wrote:
 Hello Everyone,
 
 First please accept my gratitude for working with me on this one.
 
 I am so glad we talked about it for it caused me to go into my gMail 
 account settings on the web and make some much needed adjustments.
 
 Turning to my problem, as it turns out, I am not alone.  After doing 
 some Google searches, I discovered that many, many other Macintosh 
 Mail client people are experiencing the exact same issue.  Apparently, 
 the issue reared its ugly head back in July, before the most recent
 update.
 
 I discovered this, for myself, when I restored my Mac back to the 
 first build of Mountain Lion, a couple of hours ago, only to discover 
 that the problem existed back then.
 
 By the way, I am now running the original Mountain Lion so need to 
 update to
 10.8.2 in a few minutes.
 
 Anyway, getting back to my resolution, it turns out that one must 
 disable the Save A Copy of Message on the Mac option in order for 
 gMail to work as it does in Outlook, Edora, etc.
 
 I turned off this option and can now, once again, see messages posted 
 to this list or those sent to myself or those copied to myself.
 
 From what I have learned on the web, so far, no one knows if this is 
 an
 issue with Google or the Mac Mail client but, at least, we're all up 
 and running.
 
 Finally, I will now update my Mac again and see if this resolution holds.
 
 Thank you all so very muchg for being here.
 
 Most Sincerely,
 
 Mark
 
 
 
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Re: I Am Not Alone and Resolution To Mail Problem Discovered

[Chris]

Thank you Mark, much appreciated.


Christopher Hallsworth

On 12/10/2012 02:00, M. Taylor wrote:

Hello Christopher,

To change this setting,

1.
Go into the Mail Client and open preferences.

2.
In the Accounts tab, select the account you wish to change.

3.
Then, select the mailbox behavior tab and uncheck the Keep sent messages on
server button.

Mark




-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 11:51 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I Am Not Alone and Resolution To Mail Problem Discovered

Hello all so where can we find this option then? Thanks!


Christopher Hallsworth

On 11/10/2012 19:21, M. Taylor wrote:

Hello Everyone,

First please accept my gratitude for working with me on this one.

I am so glad we talked about it for it caused me to go into my gMail
account settings on the web and make some much needed adjustments.

Turning to my problem, as it turns out, I am not alone.  After doing
some Google searches, I discovered that many, many other Macintosh
Mail client people are experiencing the exact same issue.  Apparently,
the issue reared its ugly head back in July, before the most recent

update.


I discovered this, for myself, when I restored my Mac back to the
first build of Mountain Lion, a couple of hours ago, only to discover
that the problem existed back then.

By the way, I am now running the original Mountain Lion so need to
update to
10.8.2 in a few minutes.

Anyway, getting back to my resolution, it turns out that one must
disable the Save A Copy of Message on the Mac option in order for
gMail to work as it does in Outlook, Edora, etc.

I turned off this option and can now, once again, see messages posted
to this list or those sent to myself or those copied to myself.

From what I have learned on the web, so far, no one knows if this is

an

issue with Google or the Mac Mail client but, at least, we're all up
and running.

Finally, I will now update my Mac again and see if this resolution holds.

Thank you all so very muchg for being here.

Most Sincerely,

Mark




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I Am Not Alone and Resolution To Mail Problem Discovered

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,  

First please accept my gratitude for working with me on this one.  

I am so glad we talked about it for it caused me to go into my gMail account
settings on the web and make some much needed adjustments.  

Turning to my problem, as it turns out, I am not alone.  After doing some
Google searches, I discovered that many, many other Macintosh Mail client
people are experiencing the exact same issue.  Apparently, the issue reared
its ugly head back in July, before the most recent update.  

I discovered this, for myself, when I restored my Mac back to the first
build of Mountain Lion, a couple of hours ago, only to discover that the
problem existed back then.  

By the way, I am now running the original Mountain Lion so need to update to
10.8.2 in a few minutes.  

Anyway, getting back to my resolution, it turns out that one must disable
the Save A Copy of Message on the Mac option in order for gMail to work as
it does in Outlook, Edora, etc.  

I turned off this option and can now, once again, see messages posted to
this list or those sent to myself or those copied to myself.  

From what I have learned on the web, so far, no one knows if this is an
issue with Google or the Mac Mail client but, at least, we're all up and
running.

Finally, I will now update my Mac again and see if this resolution holds.

Thank you all so very muchg for being here.

Most Sincerely,

Mark


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Re: I Am Not Alone and Resolution To Mail Problem Discovered

[Chris]

Hello all so where can we find this option then? Thanks!


Christopher Hallsworth

On 11/10/2012 19:21, M. Taylor wrote:

Hello Everyone,

First please accept my gratitude for working with me on this one.

I am so glad we talked about it for it caused me to go into my gMail account
settings on the web and make some much needed adjustments.

Turning to my problem, as it turns out, I am not alone.  After doing some
Google searches, I discovered that many, many other Macintosh Mail client
people are experiencing the exact same issue.  Apparently, the issue reared
its ugly head back in July, before the most recent update.

I discovered this, for myself, when I restored my Mac back to the first
build of Mountain Lion, a couple of hours ago, only to discover that the
problem existed back then.

By the way, I am now running the original Mountain Lion so need to update to
10.8.2 in a few minutes.

Anyway, getting back to my resolution, it turns out that one must disable
the Save A Copy of Message on the Mac option in order for gMail to work as
it does in Outlook, Edora, etc.

I turned off this option and can now, once again, see messages posted to
this list or those sent to myself or those copied to myself.


From what I have learned on the web, so far, no one knows if this is an

issue with Google or the Mac Mail client but, at least, we're all up and
running.

Finally, I will now update my Mac again and see if this resolution holds.

Thank you all so very muchg for being here.

Most Sincerely,

Mark




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RE: I Am Not Alone and Resolution To Mail Problem Discovered

[M. Taylor]

Hello Christopher,

To change this setting,

1.
Go into the Mail Client and open preferences.  

2.
In the Accounts tab, select the account you wish to change.

3.
Then, select the mailbox behavior tab and uncheck the Keep sent messages on
server button.

Mark




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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 11:51 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I Am Not Alone and Resolution To Mail Problem Discovered

Hello all so where can we find this option then? Thanks!


Christopher Hallsworth

On 11/10/2012 19:21, M. Taylor wrote:
 Hello Everyone,

 First please accept my gratitude for working with me on this one.

 I am so glad we talked about it for it caused me to go into my gMail 
 account settings on the web and make some much needed adjustments.

 Turning to my problem, as it turns out, I am not alone.  After doing 
 some Google searches, I discovered that many, many other Macintosh 
 Mail client people are experiencing the exact same issue.  Apparently, 
 the issue reared its ugly head back in July, before the most recent
update.

 I discovered this, for myself, when I restored my Mac back to the 
 first build of Mountain Lion, a couple of hours ago, only to discover 
 that the problem existed back then.

 By the way, I am now running the original Mountain Lion so need to 
 update to
 10.8.2 in a few minutes.

 Anyway, getting back to my resolution, it turns out that one must 
 disable the Save A Copy of Message on the Mac option in order for 
 gMail to work as it does in Outlook, Edora, etc.

 I turned off this option and can now, once again, see messages posted 
 to this list or those sent to myself or those copied to myself.

From what I have learned on the web, so far, no one knows if this is 
an
 issue with Google or the Mac Mail client but, at least, we're all up 
 and running.

 Finally, I will now update my Mac again and see if this resolution holds.

 Thank you all so very muchg for being here.

 Most Sincerely,

 Mark



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Re: Weird mail problem with Mountain Kitty

[Gigi]

Hi guys
Well, last night I had to call the 877 number to talk to them about this weird 
problem. It is being referred to the engineering people. Because, the screens 
of the siding people are just like ours but they can use, of course, there are 
Mousas to go over the thing to select it. I just got told last night there's no 
way to do it with voiceover. I am supposed to get a phone call about this 
later. He asked me if I wanted to get an email or phone call. 
For right now, I canceled all the rules I head. That way, at least I can get 
everything in my inbox. Of course, I can also get mail on my iPhone fortunately.
Regards
Gigi 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 26, 2012, at 12:42 PM, Greg Aikens gpaik...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 I am having the same problem.  My inbox is expanded so that I see the 
 separate inboxes for my separate accounts.  However, I can't see the list of 
 folders under each account.  These used to appear below my trash folder in 
 the list of mailboxes.  In Lion, I could hide these folders by clicking on a 
 disclosure triangle for each account.  Using VO+down arrow on the list of 
 mailboxes allows me to move past the trash folder to items with the names of 
 my email accounts and a disclosure triangle.  When I interact with these 
 items to try and press the triangle to expand the list, I can't.  VO+space, 
 pressing enter, left and right arrows won't do it.  
 
 Any other suggestions?
 
 -Greg
 
 On Jul 26, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Matthew Campbell wrestling.ch...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi.
 Is you're mailbox list expanded?
 Go to you inbox which'll be at the top, and hit right arrow. THis'll expand 
 the mailboxes for you.
 HTH,
 Matthew Campbell.
 
 
 On 2012-07-26, at 1:09 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
 Hi guys. 
 I got Mountain Kitty installed just fine, even though it took forever. I'm 
 really pleased that I could do the installation process myself, but I'm 
 glad also that Les warned us about turning VoiceOver back on after a 
 minute. I almost had heart failure when I pressed command 5 and nothing 
 happened for a second or two. I did have to call that great 877 number last 
 night because a program I thought I had uninstalled insisted on raising up 
 its ugly head, even though I had—I thought—erased all of its files. That 
 took us a while, and the man was very nice and knowledgeable about things. 
 I discovered ast night that I had this weird mail problem, but we couldn't 
 get to that last night. 
 
 I can't get to all my mailboxes. The one where I have messages sent for 
 this list is one of them. I will need to use iPhone to read anything from 
 this list right now. I can get to my inbox and some others like archives. 
 However, some of the ones I created I can't find. I don't think they're 
 gone—I onepe—because I keep hearing the messages coming in, but I can't 
 reach them unless they're in my inbox. Anybody got any ideas on this one? 
 
 
 Eugenia Firth
 gigifi...@sbcglobal.net
 
 
 
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Re: Weird mail problem with Mountain Kitty

[Kliphton]

The way I have always expanded folders in apple mail on the mack was vo 
backslash.  This expands and cllapses them.  HTH

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On Jul 27, 2012, at 6:50 AM, Gigi gigifi...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

Hi guys
Well, last night I had to call the 877 number to talk to them about this weird 
problem. It is being referred to the engineering people. Because, the screens 
of the siding people are just like ours but they can use, of course, there are 
Mousas to go over the thing to select it. I just got told last night there's no 
way to do it with voiceover. I am supposed to get a phone call about this 
later. He asked me if I wanted to get an email or phone call. 
For right now, I canceled all the rules I head. That way, at least I can get 
everything in my inbox. Of course, I can also get mail on my iPhone fortunately.
Regards
Gigi 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 26, 2012, at 12:42 PM, Greg Aikens gpaik...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 I am having the same problem.  My inbox is expanded so that I see the 
 separate inboxes for my separate accounts.  However, I can't see the list of 
 folders under each account.  These used to appear below my trash folder in 
 the list of mailboxes.  In Lion, I could hide these folders by clicking on a 
 disclosure triangle for each account.  Using VO+down arrow on the list of 
 mailboxes allows me to move past the trash folder to items with the names of 
 my email accounts and a disclosure triangle.  When I interact with these 
 items to try and press the triangle to expand the list, I can't.  VO+space, 
 pressing enter, left and right arrows won't do it.  
 
 Any other suggestions?
 
 -Greg
 
 On Jul 26, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Matthew Campbell wrestling.ch...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi.
 Is you're mailbox list expanded?
 Go to you inbox which'll be at the top, and hit right arrow. THis'll expand 
 the mailboxes for you.
 HTH,
 Matthew Campbell.
 
 
 On 2012-07-26, at 1:09 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
 Hi guys. 
 I got Mountain Kitty installed just fine, even though it took forever. I'm 
 really pleased that I could do the installation process myself, but I'm 
 glad also that Les warned us about turning VoiceOver back on after a 
 minute. I almost had heart failure when I pressed command 5 and nothing 
 happened for a second or two. I did have to call that great 877 number last 
 night because a program I thought I had uninstalled insisted on raising up 
 its ugly head, even though I had—I thought—erased all of its files. That 
 took us a while, and the man was very nice and knowledgeable about things. 
 I discovered ast night that I had this weird mail problem, but we couldn't 
 get to that last night. 
 
 I can't get to all my mailboxes. The one where I have messages sent for 
 this list is one of them. I will need to use iPhone to read anything from 
 this list right now. I can get to my inbox and some others like archives. 
 However, some of the ones I created I can't find. I don't think they're 
 gone—I onepe—because I keep hearing the messages coming in, but I can't 
 reach them unless they're in my inbox. Anybody got any ideas on this one? 
 
 
 Eugenia Firth
 gigifi...@sbcglobal.net
 
 
 
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Re: Weird mail problem with Mountain Kitty

[Greg Aikens]

Gigi,
I was having this same problem.  NO matter how many people suggested that I use 
VO \, it just wouldn't open for me.  But, I did a couple of things and was able 
to fix my problem.  I'm not exactly sure which of these did it, so maybe you 
can try them all?

First, I switched to classic view.  I then went to my list of mailboxes and 
when I got to the collapsed account, I interacted with it and tried VO \ on it. 
 This worked to expand the collapsed folder structure.  I then went back to 
modern view and tried it a few times and it also worked to interact first and 
then try VO \.  Not sure why this worked, but it did.  

I would try interacting with the collapsed folder and then hitting VO \.  I 
don't really think switching to classic view did anything for me.  

I hope this works for you like it did for me.  I was very frustrated before 
this worked.

-Greg

On Jul 27, 2012, at 6:50 AM, Gigi gigifi...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Hi guys
 Well, last night I had to call the 877 number to talk to them about this 
 weird problem. It is being referred to the engineering people. Because, the 
 screens of the siding people are just like ours but they can use, of course, 
 there are Mousas to go over the thing to select it. I just got told last 
 night there's no way to do it with voiceover. I am supposed to get a phone 
 call about this later. He asked me if I wanted to get an email or phone call. 
 For right now, I canceled all the rules I head. That way, at least I can get 
 everything in my inbox. Of course, I can also get mail on my iPhone 
 fortunately.
 Regards
 Gigi 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 26, 2012, at 12:42 PM, Greg Aikens gpaik...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I am having the same problem.  My inbox is expanded so that I see the 
 separate inboxes for my separate accounts.  However, I can't see the list of 
 folders under each account.  These used to appear below my trash folder in 
 the list of mailboxes.  In Lion, I could hide these folders by clicking on a 
 disclosure triangle for each account.  Using VO+down arrow on the list of 
 mailboxes allows me to move past the trash folder to items with the names of 
 my email accounts and a disclosure triangle.  When I interact with these 
 items to try and press the triangle to expand the list, I can't.  VO+space, 
 pressing enter, left and right arrows won't do it.  
 
 Any other suggestions?
 
 -Greg
 
 On Jul 26, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Matthew Campbell wrestling.ch...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi.
 Is you're mailbox list expanded?
 Go to you inbox which'll be at the top, and hit right arrow. THis'll expand 
 the mailboxes for you.
 HTH,
 Matthew Campbell.
 
 
 On 2012-07-26, at 1:09 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
 Hi guys. 
 I got Mountain Kitty installed just fine, even though it took forever. I'm 
 really pleased that I could do the installation process myself, but I'm 
 glad also that Les warned us about turning VoiceOver back on after a 
 minute. I almost had heart failure when I pressed command 5 and nothing 
 happened for a second or two. I did have to call that great 877 number 
 last night because a program I thought I had uninstalled insisted on 
 raising up its ugly head, even though I had—I thought—erased all of its 
 files. That took us a while, and the man was very nice and knowledgeable 
 about things. I discovered ast night that I had this weird mail problem, 
 but we couldn't get to that last night. 
 
 I can't get to all my mailboxes. The one where I have messages sent for 
 this list is one of them. I will need to use iPhone to read anything from 
 this list right now. I can get to my inbox and some others like archives. 
 However, some of the ones I created I can't find. I don't think they're 
 gone—I onepe—because I keep hearing the messages coming in, but I can't 
 reach them unless they're in my inbox. Anybody got any ideas on this one? 
 
 
 Eugenia Firth
 gigifi...@sbcglobal.net
 
 
 
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Re: Weird mail problem with Mountain Kitty

[Eugenia Firth]

Thanks Greg. I did, thanks to Les, get the boxes uncollapsed. However, it's not 
as good and convenient that way it was before, so when I get a chance I will 
try what you did. I need to remember how to get into classic view. 


Eugenia Firth
gigifi...@sbcglobal.net



On Jul 27, 2012, at 7:57 AM, Greg Aikens gpaik...@gmail.com wrote:

 Gigi,
 I was having this same problem.  NO matter how many people suggested that I 
 use VO \, it just wouldn't open for me.  But, I did a couple of things and 
 was able to fix my problem.  I'm not exactly sure which of these did it, so 
 maybe you can try them all?
 
 First, I switched to classic view.  I then went to my list of mailboxes and 
 when I got to the collapsed account, I interacted with it and tried VO \ on 
 it.  This worked to expand the collapsed folder structure.  I then went back 
 to modern view and tried it a few times and it also worked to interact first 
 and then try VO \.  Not sure why this worked, but it did.  
 
 I would try interacting with the collapsed folder and then hitting VO \.  I 
 don't really think switching to classic view did anything for me.  
 
 I hope this works for you like it did for me.  I was very frustrated before 
 this worked.
 
 -Greg
 
 On Jul 27, 2012, at 6:50 AM, Gigi gigifi...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
 Hi guys
 Well, last night I had to call the 877 number to talk to them about this 
 weird problem. It is being referred to the engineering people. Because, the 
 screens of the siding people are just like ours but they can use, of course, 
 there are Mousas to go over the thing to select it. I just got told last 
 night there's no way to do it with voiceover. I am supposed to get a phone 
 call about this later. He asked me if I wanted to get an email or phone 
 call. 
 For right now, I canceled all the rules I head. That way, at least I can get 
 everything in my inbox. Of course, I can also get mail on my iPhone 
 fortunately.
 Regards
 Gigi 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 26, 2012, at 12:42 PM, Greg Aikens gpaik...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I am having the same problem.  My inbox is expanded so that I see the 
 separate inboxes for my separate accounts.  However, I can't see the list 
 of folders under each account.  These used to appear below my trash folder 
 in the list of mailboxes.  In Lion, I could hide these folders by clicking 
 on a disclosure triangle for each account.  Using VO+down arrow on the list 
 of mailboxes allows me to move past the trash folder to items with the 
 names of my email accounts and a disclosure triangle.  When I interact with 
 these items to try and press the triangle to expand the list, I can't.  
 VO+space, pressing enter, left and right arrows won't do it.  
 
 Any other suggestions?
 
 -Greg
 
 On Jul 26, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Matthew Campbell wrestling.ch...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi.
 Is you're mailbox list expanded?
 Go to you inbox which'll be at the top, and hit right arrow. THis'll 
 expand the mailboxes for you.
 HTH,
 Matthew Campbell.
 
 
 On 2012-07-26, at 1:09 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
 Hi guys. 
 I got Mountain Kitty installed just fine, even though it took forever. 
 I'm really pleased that I could do the installation process myself, but 
 I'm glad also that Les warned us about turning VoiceOver back on after a 
 minute. I almost had heart failure when I pressed command 5 and nothing 
 happened for a second or two. I did have to call that great 877 number 
 last night because a program I thought I had uninstalled insisted on 
 raising up its ugly head, even though I had—I thought—erased all of its 
 files. That took us a while, and the man was very nice and knowledgeable 
 about things. I discovered ast night that I had this weird mail problem, 
 but we couldn't get to that last night. 
 
 I can't get to all my mailboxes. The one where I have messages sent for 
 this list is one of them. I will need to use iPhone to read anything from 
 this list right now. I can get to my inbox and some others like archives. 
 However, some of the ones I created I can't find. I don't think they're 
 gone—I onepe—because I keep hearing the messages coming in, but I can't 
 reach them unless they're in my inbox. Anybody got any ideas on this one? 
 
 
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 gigifi...@sbcglobal.net
 
 
 
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Re: Weird mail problem with Mountain Kitty

[Steve Holmes]

One wierd thing I noticed last night with Mail is the mailboxes that
VO says are at level zero had to be expanded or collapsed with
VO-backslash but the other boxes with higher level numbers could be
expanded and collapsed with right and left arrows like I always do.
It was just the top level (level 0) entries that I had to use the
vo-backslash.  Not sure of why the difference.  Beyond that, I have
mail working nearly perfectly for me now.

PS: I think a month or so, some of my settings for Mail got reverted
and messed up some of my IMAP folders on gmail but I got them
straightened out now. Now if they would just stick and not revert in
the future, all will be good.

On 7/27/12, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 Thanks Greg. I did, thanks to Les, get the boxes uncollapsed. However, it's
 not as good and convenient that way it was before, so when I get a chance I
 will try what you did. I need to remember how to get into classic view.


 Eugenia Firth
 gigifi...@sbcglobal.net



 On Jul 27, 2012, at 7:57 AM, Greg Aikens gpaik...@gmail.com wrote:

 Gigi,
 I was having this same problem.  NO matter how many people suggested that
 I use VO \, it just wouldn't open for me.  But, I did a couple of things
 and was able to fix my problem.  I'm not exactly sure which of these did
 it, so maybe you can try them all?

 First, I switched to classic view.  I then went to my list of mailboxes
 and when I got to the collapsed account, I interacted with it and tried VO
 \ on it.  This worked to expand the collapsed folder structure.  I then
 went back to modern view and tried it a few times and it also worked to
 interact first and then try VO \.  Not sure why this worked, but it did.


 I would try interacting with the collapsed folder and then hitting VO \.
 I don't really think switching to classic view did anything for me.

 I hope this works for you like it did for me.  I was very frustrated
 before this worked.

 -Greg

 On Jul 27, 2012, at 6:50 AM, Gigi gigifi...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Hi guys
 Well, last night I had to call the 877 number to talk to them about this
 weird problem. It is being referred to the engineering people. Because,
 the screens of the siding people are just like ours but they can use, of
 course, there are Mousas to go over the thing to select it. I just got
 told last night there's no way to do it with voiceover. I am supposed to
 get a phone call about this later. He asked me if I wanted to get an
 email or phone call.
 For right now, I canceled all the rules I head. That way, at least I can
 get everything in my inbox. Of course, I can also get mail on my iPhone
 fortunately.
 Regards
 Gigi

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 26, 2012, at 12:42 PM, Greg Aikens gpaik...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 I am having the same problem.  My inbox is expanded so that I see the
 separate inboxes for my separate accounts.  However, I can't see the
 list of folders under each account.  These used to appear below my trash
 folder in the list of mailboxes.  In Lion, I could hide these folders by
 clicking on a disclosure triangle for each account.  Using VO+down arrow
 on the list of mailboxes allows me to move past the trash folder to
 items with the names of my email accounts and a disclosure triangle.
 When I interact with these items to try and press the triangle to expand
 the list, I can't.  VO+space, pressing enter, left and right arrows
 won't do it.

 Any other suggestions?

 -Greg

 On Jul 26, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Matthew Campbell
 wrestling.ch...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi.
 Is you're mailbox list expanded?
 Go to you inbox which'll be at the top, and hit right arrow. THis'll
 expand the mailboxes for you.
 HTH,
 Matthew Campbell.


 On 2012-07-26, at 1:09 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net
 wrote:

 Hi guys.
 I got Mountain Kitty installed just fine, even though it took forever.
 I'm really pleased that I could do the installation process myself,
 but I'm glad also that Les warned us about turning VoiceOver back on
 after a minute. I almost had heart failure when I pressed command 5
 and nothing happened for a second or two. I did have to call that
 great 877 number last night because a program I thought I had
 uninstalled insisted on raising up its ugly head, even though I had—I
 thought—erased all of its files. That took us a while, and the man was
 very nice and knowledgeable about things. I discovered ast night that
 I had this weird mail problem, but we couldn't get to that last night.


 I can't get to all my mailboxes. The one where I have messages sent
 for this list is one of them. I will need to use iPhone to read
 anything from this list right now. I can get to my inbox and some
 others like archives. However, some of the ones I created I can't
 find. I don't think they're gone—I onepe—because I keep hearing the
 messages coming in, but I can't reach them unless they're in my inbox.
 Anybody got any ideas on this one?


 Eugenia Firth
 gigifi...@sbcglobal.net



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Re: Weird mail problem with Mountain Kitty

[Shen]

-26, at 1:09 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net
 wrote:

 Hi guys.
 I got Mountain Kitty installed just fine, even though it took
 forever.
 I'm really pleased that I could do the installation process myself,
 but I'm glad also that Les warned us about turning VoiceOver back on
 after a minute. I almost had heart failure when I pressed command 5
 and nothing happened for a second or two. I did have to call that
 great 877 number last night because a program I thought I had
 uninstalled insisted on raising up its ugly head, even though I
 had—I
 thought—erased all of its files. That took us a while, and the man
 was
 very nice and knowledgeable about things. I discovered ast night
 that
 I had this weird mail problem, but we couldn't get to that last
 night.


 I can't get to all my mailboxes. The one where I have messages sent
 for this list is one of them. I will need to use iPhone to read
 anything from this list right now. I can get to my inbox and some
 others like archives. However, some of the ones I created I can't
 find. I don't think they're gone—I onepe—because I keep hearing the
 messages coming in, but I can't reach them unless they're in my
 inbox.
 Anybody got any ideas on this one?


 Eugenia Firth
 gigifi...@sbcglobal.net



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Re: Weird mail problem with Mountain Kitty

[Mark BurningHawk Baxter]

The other thing that left and right arrows do is, when in a column or directory 
tree mode in Finder, open or close subfolders.  I'm wondering if the difference 
is that some users are using a grid layout and others a column layout in 
Finder?  I know it shouldn't matter inside Mail, but I don't care; I still 
wonder if this is the crucial difference between those successfully using an 
arrow versus the Backslash contingent.

PS:  I just did a shutdown and restart.  the new kitty is hella slow to wake 
up, but after forever VoiceOver DID come up in the window.  The new procedure, 
once you establish VO, is to interact with the users scroll area, then 
interact with your user name, then press the button, enter password.  Unless 
you don't have one, in which case everything I just said is meaningless.  
That's usually the case with me.


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Weird mail problem with Mountain Kitty

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi guys. 
I got Mountain Kitty installed just fine, even though it took forever. I'm 
really pleased that I could do the installation process myself, but I'm glad 
also that Les warned us about turning VoiceOver back on after a minute. I 
almost had heart failure when I pressed command 5 and nothing happened for a 
second or two. I did have to call that great 877 number last night because a 
program I thought I had uninstalled insisted on raising up its ugly head, even 
though I had—I thought—erased all of its files. That took us a while, and the 
man was very nice and knowledgeable about things. I discovered ast night that I 
had this weird mail problem, but we couldn't get to that last night. 

I can't get to all my mailboxes. The one where I have messages sent for this 
list is one of them. I will need to use iPhone to read anything from this list 
right now. I can get to my inbox and some others like archives. However, some 
of the ones I created I can't find. I don't think they're gone—I onepe—because 
I keep hearing the messages coming in, but I can't reach them unless they're in 
my inbox. Anybody got any ideas on this one? 


Eugenia Firth
gigifi...@sbcglobal.net



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Re: Weird mail problem with Mountain Kitty

[Mark BurningHawk Baxter]

You should see the on my mac, mailboxes, and then hitting right-arrow will 
take you into that submenu.  From there, you can type the first letter of the 
box you want.  That's the change as it happened when I upgraded.


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Re: Weird mail problem with Mountain Kitty

[Matthew Campbell]

Hi.
Is you're mailbox list expanded?
Go to you inbox which'll be at the top, and hit right arrow. THis'll expand the 
mailboxes for you.
HTH,
Matthew Campbell.


On 2012-07-26, at 1:09 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Hi guys. 
 I got Mountain Kitty installed just fine, even though it took forever. I'm 
 really pleased that I could do the installation process myself, but I'm glad 
 also that Les warned us about turning VoiceOver back on after a minute. I 
 almost had heart failure when I pressed command 5 and nothing happened for a 
 second or two. I did have to call that great 877 number last night because a 
 program I thought I had uninstalled insisted on raising up its ugly head, 
 even though I had—I thought—erased all of its files. That took us a while, 
 and the man was very nice and knowledgeable about things. I discovered ast 
 night that I had this weird mail problem, but we couldn't get to that last 
 night. 
 
 I can't get to all my mailboxes. The one where I have messages sent for this 
 list is one of them. I will need to use iPhone to read anything from this 
 list right now. I can get to my inbox and some others like archives. However, 
 some of the ones I created I can't find. I don't think they're gone—I 
 onepe—because I keep hearing the messages coming in, but I can't reach them 
 unless they're in my inbox. Anybody got any ideas on this one? 
 
 
 Eugenia Firth
 gigifi...@sbcglobal.net
 
 
 
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Re: Weird mail problem with Mountain Kitty

[Gigi]

Hi Mark
Thanks, but it didn't work. I think I've got some kind of weird view on here 
that is causing the problem.
Regards
Gigi

Sent from my iPhone

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wrote:

 You should see the on my mac, mailboxes, and then hitting right-arrow will 
 take you into that submenu.  From there, you can type the first letter of the 
 box you want.  That's the change as it happened when I upgraded.
 
 
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Re: Weird mail problem with Mountain Kitty

[Greg Aikens]

Hi,
I am having the same problem.  My inbox is expanded so that I see the separate 
inboxes for my separate accounts.  However, I can't see the list of folders 
under each account.  These used to appear below my trash folder in the list of 
mailboxes.  In Lion, I could hide these folders by clicking on a disclosure 
triangle for each account.  Using VO+down arrow on the list of mailboxes allows 
me to move past the trash folder to items with the names of my email accounts 
and a disclosure triangle.  When I interact with these items to try and press 
the triangle to expand the list, I can't.  VO+space, pressing enter, left and 
right arrows won't do it.  

Any other suggestions?

-Greg

On Jul 26, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Matthew Campbell wrestling.ch...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Hi.
 Is you're mailbox list expanded?
 Go to you inbox which'll be at the top, and hit right arrow. THis'll expand 
 the mailboxes for you.
 HTH,
 Matthew Campbell.
 
 
 On 2012-07-26, at 1:09 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
 Hi guys. 
 I got Mountain Kitty installed just fine, even though it took forever. I'm 
 really pleased that I could do the installation process myself, but I'm glad 
 also that Les warned us about turning VoiceOver back on after a minute. I 
 almost had heart failure when I pressed command 5 and nothing happened for a 
 second or two. I did have to call that great 877 number last night because a 
 program I thought I had uninstalled insisted on raising up its ugly head, 
 even though I had—I thought—erased all of its files. That took us a while, 
 and the man was very nice and knowledgeable about things. I discovered ast 
 night that I had this weird mail problem, but we couldn't get to that last 
 night. 
 
 I can't get to all my mailboxes. The one where I have messages sent for this 
 list is one of them. I will need to use iPhone to read anything from this 
 list right now. I can get to my inbox and some others like archives. 
 However, some of the ones I created I can't find. I don't think they're 
 gone—I onepe—because I keep hearing the messages coming in, but I can't 
 reach them unless they're in my inbox. Anybody got any ideas on this one? 
 
 
 Eugenia Firth
 gigifi...@sbcglobal.net
 
 
 
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Re: Weird mail problem with Mountain Kitty

[Mark BurningHawk Baxter]

My one last suggestion would be to try VO Backslash or VO Shift Backslash on 
the On my Mac, section, see if that expands things.


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Re: Weird mail problem with Mountain Kitty

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

do you have quick nav turned off?

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On Jul 26, 2012, at 1:40 PM, Gigi gigifi...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Hi Mark
 Thanks, but it didn't work. I think I've got some kind of weird view on here 
 that is causing the problem.
 Regards
 Gigi
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 26, 2012, at 12:11 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter 
 markbaxte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 You should see the on my mac, mailboxes, and then hitting right-arrow will 
 take you into that submenu.  From there, you can type the first letter of 
 the box you want.  That's the change as it happened when I upgraded.
 
 
 • Mark BurningHawk Baxter
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 • My home page:
 • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
 
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Re: Weird mail problem with Mountain Kitty

[Lisette]

Try vo backslash. 

Sent from my iPod

On 27/07/2012, at 5:42 AM, Greg Aikens gpaik...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 I am having the same problem.  My inbox is expanded so that I see the 
 separate inboxes for my separate accounts.  However, I can't see the list of 
 folders under each account.  These used to appear below my trash folder in 
 the list of mailboxes.  In Lion, I could hide these folders by clicking on a 
 disclosure triangle for each account.  Using VO+down arrow on the list of 
 mailboxes allows me to move past the trash folder to items with the names of 
 my email accounts and a disclosure triangle.  When I interact with these 
 items to try and press the triangle to expand the list, I can't.  VO+space, 
 pressing enter, left and right arrows won't do it.  
 
 Any other suggestions?
 
 -Greg
 
 On Jul 26, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Matthew Campbell wrestling.ch...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi.
 Is you're mailbox list expanded?
 Go to you inbox which'll be at the top, and hit right arrow. THis'll expand 
 the mailboxes for you.
 HTH,
 Matthew Campbell.
 
 
 On 2012-07-26, at 1:09 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
 Hi guys. 
 I got Mountain Kitty installed just fine, even though it took forever. I'm 
 really pleased that I could do the installation process myself, but I'm 
 glad also that Les warned us about turning VoiceOver back on after a 
 minute. I almost had heart failure when I pressed command 5 and nothing 
 happened for a second or two. I did have to call that great 877 number last 
 night because a program I thought I had uninstalled insisted on raising up 
 its ugly head, even though I had—I thought—erased all of its files. That 
 took us a while, and the man was very nice and knowledgeable about things. 
 I discovered ast night that I had this weird mail problem, but we couldn't 
 get to that last night. 
 
 I can't get to all my mailboxes. The one where I have messages sent for 
 this list is one of them. I will need to use iPhone to read anything from 
 this list right now. I can get to my inbox and some others like archives. 
 However, some of the ones I created I can't find. I don't think they're 
 gone—I onepe—because I keep hearing the messages coming in, but I can't 
 reach them unless they're in my inbox. Anybody got any ideas on this one? 
 
 
 Eugenia Firth
 gigifi...@sbcglobal.net
 
 
 
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Re: Weird mail problem with Mountain Kitty

[Teresa Cochran]

You might have a collapsed group of mailboxes on your hands. Inbox is often 
collapsed, and if it is, you can press right-arrow to expand it. This goes for 
Gmail, too.

HTH,
Teresa
On Jul 26, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Hi guys. 
 I got Mountain Kitty installed just fine, even though it took forever. I'm 
 really pleased that I could do the installation process myself, but I'm glad 
 also that Les warned us about turning VoiceOver back on after a minute. I 
 almost had heart failure when I pressed command 5 and nothing happened for a 
 second or two. I did have to call that great 877 number last night because a 
 program I thought I had uninstalled insisted on raising up its ugly head, 
 even though I had—I thought—erased all of its files. That took us a while, 
 and the man was very nice and knowledgeable about things. I discovered ast 
 night that I had this weird mail problem, but we couldn't get to that last 
 night. 
 
 I can't get to all my mailboxes. The one where I have messages sent for this 
 list is one of them. I will need to use iPhone to read anything from this 
 list right now. I can get to my inbox and some others like archives. However, 
 some of the ones I created I can't find. I don't think they're gone—I 
 onepe—because I keep hearing the messages coming in, but I can't reach them 
 unless they're in my inbox. Anybody got any ideas on this one? 
 
 
 Eugenia Firth
 gigifi...@sbcglobal.net
 
 
 
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Re: Weird mail problem with Mountain Kitty

[Lisette Wesseling]

Hi
I had this problem too and fixed it by 
1. turning on quick nav briefly. I heard blank, blank, blank, as I arrowed down 
underneath my trash folder.
2. I turned quick nav off again. Then I did vo backslash on where the first 
blank was and everything got expanded again.
Sometimes vo backslash doesn't work and right arrow does. It's a bit hit and 
miss.

Lisette

On 27/07/2012, at 7:22 AM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote:

 You might have a collapsed group of mailboxes on your hands. Inbox is often 
 collapsed, and if it is, you can press right-arrow to expand it. This goes 
 for Gmail, too.
 
 HTH,
 Teresa
 On Jul 26, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
 Hi guys. 
 I got Mountain Kitty installed just fine, even though it took forever. I'm 
 really pleased that I could do the installation process myself, but I'm glad 
 also that Les warned us about turning VoiceOver back on after a minute. I 
 almost had heart failure when I pressed command 5 and nothing happened for a 
 second or two. I did have to call that great 877 number last night because a 
 program I thought I had uninstalled insisted on raising up its ugly head, 
 even though I had—I thought—erased all of its files. That took us a while, 
 and the man was very nice and knowledgeable about things. I discovered ast 
 night that I had this weird mail problem, but we couldn't get to that last 
 night. 
 
 I can't get to all my mailboxes. The one where I have messages sent for this 
 list is one of them. I will need to use iPhone to read anything from this 
 list right now. I can get to my inbox and some others like archives. 
 However, some of the ones I created I can't find. I don't think they're 
 gone—I onepe—because I keep hearing the messages coming in, but I can't 
 reach them unless they're in my inbox. Anybody got any ideas on this one? 
 
 
 Eugenia Firth
 gigifi...@sbcglobal.net
 
 
 
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Re: Mail problem

[Rahul Bajaj]

On 08/06/2012, Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 A couple of days ago, I tried to delete all the messages in Mail by
 selecting all of them and then pressing the 'delete' button in the
 toolbar.
 VO kept saying 'busy' for a long time after that.
 Since yesterday, I have been observing that whenever I open Mail, I am
 only able to view the messages of one ID and not of the other ID which
 is also added to Mail.
 I am only able to view those messages of the other ID which I received
 before selecting and deleting all the messages.
 For the last few messages in that other ID,  VO says 'blank' for
 subject, from, body and all.
 I even tried deleting both the accounts and adding them again, but
 that also didn't work.
 So, how can I change the settings to what they were before I tried to
 delete all the messages?
 Please suggest a way using which I'll  be able to read all the latest
 messages in my inbox from both IDs.

 Cheers,
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Mail problem

[Rahul Bajaj]

Hi all,

A couple of days ago, I tried to delete all the messages in Mail by
selecting all of them and then pressing the 'delete' button in the
toolbar.
VO kept saying 'busy' for a long time after that.
Since yesterday, I have been observing that whenever I open Mail, I am
only able to view the messages of one ID and not of the other ID which
is also added to Mail.
I am only able to view those messages of the other ID which I received
before selecting and deleting all the messages.
For the last few messages in that other ID,  VO says 'blank' for
subject, from, body and all.
I even tried deleting both the accounts and adding them again, but
that also didn't work.
So, how can I change the settings to what they were before I tried to
delete all the messages?
Please suggest a way using which I'll  be able to read all the latest
messages in my inbox from both IDs.

Cheers,
Rahul

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a mac mail problem

[Maurice Mines]

Hello, I have an interesting Mac mail problem on my MacBook, I cannot seem to 
get mail to stop running when I'm done using the application? But I find myself 
having to do any time I want to stop using mail is to force quit the 
application, is there any way to fix this? I've been considering doing a clean 
install while archiving the data do you think that might actually be of some 
use? And if I do that what is the process of doing that when you use a thumb 
drive with the lion installer on it? So I'm looking for any good suggestions 
that might help with all of us? I hope everyone has a great weekend and please 
note that I'm using dictation software to write this message so I hope it is 
understandable thank you all in advance?

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sending mail: problem choosing contacts

[William Windels]

Hello,
About mail in lion, I can't figure out how to select a mail-address when I type 
some letters. e.g. if I type erik, I can have multiple matches but I can't find 
the list of machos to choose from. On iOS, this seems to work very well because 
the choices are visible with voiceover on the screen.

Any help would be great!

Kind regards,
William Windels

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Re: sending mail: problem choosing contacts

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

i believe just pressing the down arrow takes you through the selections when 
your in the to: edit field.

Ricardo Walker
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Twitter  Skype: rwalker296
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On Nov 18, 2011, at 6:49 AM, William Windels wrote:

 Hello,
 About mail in lion, I can't figure out how to select a mail-address when I 
 type some letters. e.g. if I type erik, I can have multiple matches but I 
 can't find the list of machos to choose from. On iOS, this seems to work very 
 well because the choices are visible with voiceover on the screen.
 
 Any help would be great!
 
 Kind regards,
 William Windels
 
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Apple Mail Problem

[Melanie Clouser]

Got a strange problem here. Messages I had saved in my Inbox simply 
disappeared. Didn't find them in the Trash folder nor in any other of my 
folders. And, now, the senders of those invisible messages and mabe others, 
don't seem to be making into my Inbox in Apple Mail. Those messages do download 
onto my IPhone though. The IPhone receives messages that my Mac already 
downloaded and some that won't download to the Mac at all. This is while I have 
both mail programs open or not. This isn't a GMail account. It's my Verizon.net 
account and it's set to POP3 ... if I'm correct. Any suggestions or help for 
finding my disappearing email ... or just fixing the problem of why my email 
isn't downloading to the Mac? 

Melanie

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Re: Apple Mail Problem

[Candie Stiles]

I recently had a very similar experience. When my messages disappeared from the 
inbox, I found them in the mobile me mail box instead. I interacted with the 
mailbox list and arrowed over to mobile me and there they were in that message 
list. Then when I went back to the plain inbox, the messages in the mobile me 
mailbox were no longer in the list. Before, all my messages went to the mobile 
me mailbox. Now all of a sudden they are going to the mailbox that's just 
labeled in box. I'm not sure why the change.
On Sep 20, 2011, at 6:35 PM, Melanie Clouser wrote:

 Got a strange problem here. Messages I had saved in my Inbox simply 
 disappeared. Didn't find them in the Trash folder nor in any other of my 
 folders. And, now, the senders of those invisible messages and mabe others, 
 don't seem to be making into my Inbox in Apple Mail. Those messages do 
 download onto my IPhone though. The IPhone receives messages that my Mac 
 already downloaded and some that won't download to the Mac at all. This is 
 while I have both mail programs open or not. This isn't a GMail account. It's 
 my Verizon.net account and it's set to POP3 ... if I'm correct. Any 
 suggestions or help for finding my disappearing email ... or just fixing the 
 problem of why my email isn't downloading to the Mac? 
 
 Melanie
 
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mail problem

[Maxwell Ivey Jr.]

hello list; just wondering if anyone else is having this same  
problem.  I have a business account with yahoo, so i have pop mail.  I  
get my mail through apple mail just fine.  I can send single emails  
and small bunches with no problem; but i get the server error message  
whenever trying to send to a large group in the bcc or cc field.  has  
yahoo changed something, or what? any help would be appreciated, max 


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Mail Problem Weirdness On iPad2.

[Georges Zaynoun]

Hello.

We have an iPad2 here, I set up three pop3 accounts on it.  When we 
launch the mail application and we hear the chime of new mail it 
becomes very sluggish, pressing only caps lock works as it should but 
pressing all other keys takes very long time to give response, we get 
unpatient and try to restart the whole thing but even this is next to 
impossible, after sometime we can restart and work normally.  What is 
possibly the cause of this sluggishness, too many mails to fetch or the 
apps in the switcher or what?  Thanks.


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