Re: Mail Signatures

['Kliph Miller Sr' via MacVisionaries]

Pasting them is not necessary, you can drag and drop them, there for not having 
to copy and paste, and they stay in the all signatures table, no matter how 
many times you drag and drop them on different accounts, they keep only one 
copy in the all signatures table. The late great Tim Kilburn wrote up some 
great instructions on how to do this.


> On May 7, 2024, at 9:50 PM, Joseph hudson  wrote:
> 
> Yeah but you can paste signatures that are in the signature staying into an 
> account signature that you wanna have on the new Mac. And I've done this. 
> Somehow, some old signatures got stored from a previous Mac that I had, and 
> when I got my new Mac, I was able to find those signatures, and paste them 
> into a new signature field. For a new account. So what I did was copied the 
> signature, and then deleted the old signature from the all signature field.
> 
>> On May 7, 2024, at 9:25 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> I am not seeing this.
>> What I do see is something different.
>> I have 4 different mail accounts on my Mac.  One of them is iCloud Mail, 
>> which is not enabled.
>> The others are Gmail, Outlook and AT Yahoo accounts.
>> The AT Yahoo account is my primary email account, and the only one for 
>> which I have created signatures.
>> I have 2 Macs, a Mac studio and a MacBook Pro.
>> In order to use signatures, I have to create them on each Mac, and then 
>> those signatures can only be used on the Mac on which they were created, and 
>> only in the account for which they were created.
>> On each Mac, I can go to Mail Settings > Signatures, and in the Signatures 
>> table, under All Signatures, I can see all signatures created on both of my 
>> Macs, but can only use signatures created on the Mac on which a signature 
>> was created, in the account in which it was created.
>> I have been using a Mac since 2013, and have had 2 Macs since 2014, and this 
>> how signatures have worked all along.
>> I have just learned to accept that this is just how it is.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 6, 2024, at 21:00, ancient.aliens via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Brad,
>>   No idea on why I cannot make changes to the signatures? I can delete them 
>> and add new ones. But if I close the Mail app then open it again, all the 
>> old sigs are back. 
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard…
>> What do batteries run on?
>> My e-Mail:
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 5, 2024, at 7:16 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've never been able to get mail signatures to sync across both of my Max. 
>>> I've always had to set them up separately on each Mac.
>>> I've never been able to get mail signatures to sync across both of my Max. 
>>> I'm always had to set them up separately on each Mac.
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> On May 5, 2024, at 18:29, ancient.aliens via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> On the 2020 MBP, I cannot edit the signatures, cannot remove what is shown 
>>> there in the All sigs table.
>>> 
>>> On this 2012 MBP, I have what I want for each mail account. Is there a way 
>>> to sync this to the 2020 Mac? Thanks.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard…
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>>> My e-Mail:
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
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Re: Mail Signatures

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   That is not the issue. I suspect when the screen on the Mac broke a 
month ago, something got corrupted.Am back in a new install of Ventura 
and will stay out of Sonoma.


   Things look better in the mail app in Ventura and will go back into 
it later and finish sigs and rules.


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On 5/7/2024 7:25 PM, Brad Snyder wrote:

I am not seeing this.
What I do see is something different.
I have 4 different mail accounts on my Mac.  One of them is iCloud Mail, which 
is not enabled.
The others are Gmail, Outlook and AT Yahoo accounts.
The AT Yahoo account is my primary email account, and the only one for which 
I have created signatures.
I have 2 Macs, a Mac studio and a MacBook Pro.
In order to use signatures, I have to create them on each Mac, and then those 
signatures can only be used on the Mac on which they were created, and only in 
the account for which they were created.
On each Mac, I can go to Mail Settings > Signatures, and in the Signatures 
table, under All Signatures, I can see all signatures created on both of my Macs, 
but can only use signatures created on the Mac on which a signature was created, 
in the account in which it was created.
I have been using a Mac since 2013, and have had 2 Macs since 2014, and this 
how signatures have worked all along.
I have just learned to accept that this is just how it is.

- Brad -



On May 6, 2024, at 21:00, ancient.aliens via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Brad,
   No idea on why I cannot make changes to the signatures? I can delete them 
and add new ones. But if I close the Mail app then open it again, all the old 
sigs are back.

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On May 5, 2024, at 7:16 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:

I've never been able to get mail signatures to sync across both of my Max. I've 
always had to set them up separately on each Mac.
I've never been able to get mail signatures to sync across both of my Max. I'm 
always had to set them up separately on each Mac.
- Brad -

On May 5, 2024, at 18:29, ancient.aliens via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi all,
On the 2020 MBP, I cannot edit the signatures, cannot remove what is shown 
there in the All sigs table.

On this 2012 MBP, I have what I want for each mail account. Is there a way to 
sync this to the 2020 Mac? Thanks.


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Re: Mail Signatures

[Brad Snyder]

Same here.

- Brad -



On May 7, 2024, at 21:50, Joseph hudson  wrote:

Yeah but you can paste signatures that are in the signature staying into an 
account signature that you wanna have on the new Mac. And I've done this. 
Somehow, some old signatures got stored from a previous Mac that I had, and 
when I got my new Mac, I was able to find those signatures, and paste them into 
a new signature field. For a new account. So what I did was copied the 
signature, and then deleted the old signature from the all signature field.

> On May 7, 2024, at 9:25 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> I am not seeing this.
> What I do see is something different.
> I have 4 different mail accounts on my Mac.  One of them is iCloud Mail, 
> which is not enabled.
> The others are Gmail, Outlook and AT Yahoo accounts.
> The AT Yahoo account is my primary email account, and the only one for 
> which I have created signatures.
> I have 2 Macs, a Mac studio and a MacBook Pro.
> In order to use signatures, I have to create them on each Mac, and then those 
> signatures can only be used on the Mac on which they were created, and only 
> in the account for which they were created.
> On each Mac, I can go to Mail Settings > Signatures, and in the Signatures 
> table, under All Signatures, I can see all signatures created on both of my 
> Macs, but can only use signatures created on the Mac on which a signature was 
> created, in the account in which it was created.
> I have been using a Mac since 2013, and have had 2 Macs since 2014, and this 
> how signatures have worked all along.
> I have just learned to accept that this is just how it is.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> On May 6, 2024, at 21:00, ancient.aliens via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Brad,
>   No idea on why I cannot make changes to the signatures? I can delete them 
> and add new ones. But if I close the Mail app then open it again, all the old 
> sigs are back. 
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard…
> What do batteries run on?
> My e-Mail:
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> 
>> On May 5, 2024, at 7:16 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> I've never been able to get mail signatures to sync across both of my Max. 
>> I've always had to set them up separately on each Mac.
>> I've never been able to get mail signatures to sync across both of my Max. 
>> I'm always had to set them up separately on each Mac.
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> On May 5, 2024, at 18:29, ancient.aliens via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> On the 2020 MBP, I cannot edit the signatures, cannot remove what is shown 
>> there in the All sigs table.
>> 
>> On this 2012 MBP, I have what I want for each mail account. Is there a way 
>> to sync this to the 2020 Mac? Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard…
>> What do batteries run on?
>> My e-Mail:
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> 
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Re: Mail Signatures

[Joseph hudson]

Yeah but you can paste signatures that are in the signature staying into an 
account signature that you wanna have on the new Mac. And I've done this. 
Somehow, some old signatures got stored from a previous Mac that I had, and 
when I got my new Mac, I was able to find those signatures, and paste them into 
a new signature field. For a new account. So what I did was copied the 
signature, and then deleted the old signature from the all signature field.

> On May 7, 2024, at 9:25 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> I am not seeing this.
> What I do see is something different.
> I have 4 different mail accounts on my Mac.  One of them is iCloud Mail, 
> which is not enabled.
> The others are Gmail, Outlook and AT Yahoo accounts.
> The AT Yahoo account is my primary email account, and the only one for 
> which I have created signatures.
> I have 2 Macs, a Mac studio and a MacBook Pro.
> In order to use signatures, I have to create them on each Mac, and then those 
> signatures can only be used on the Mac on which they were created, and only 
> in the account for which they were created.
> On each Mac, I can go to Mail Settings > Signatures, and in the Signatures 
> table, under All Signatures, I can see all signatures created on both of my 
> Macs, but can only use signatures created on the Mac on which a signature was 
> created, in the account in which it was created.
> I have been using a Mac since 2013, and have had 2 Macs since 2014, and this 
> how signatures have worked all along.
> I have just learned to accept that this is just how it is.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> On May 6, 2024, at 21:00, ancient.aliens via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Brad,
>   No idea on why I cannot make changes to the signatures? I can delete them 
> and add new ones. But if I close the Mail app then open it again, all the old 
> sigs are back. 
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard…
> What do batteries run on?
> My e-Mail:
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> 
>> On May 5, 2024, at 7:16 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> I've never been able to get mail signatures to sync across both of my Max. 
>> I've always had to set them up separately on each Mac.
>> I've never been able to get mail signatures to sync across both of my Max. 
>> I'm always had to set them up separately on each Mac.
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> On May 5, 2024, at 18:29, ancient.aliens via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> On the 2020 MBP, I cannot edit the signatures, cannot remove what is shown 
>> there in the All sigs table.
>> 
>> On this 2012 MBP, I have what I want for each mail account. Is there a way 
>> to sync this to the 2020 Mac? Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard…
>> What do batteries run on?
>> My e-Mail:
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> 
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Re: Mail Signatures

[Brad Snyder]

I am not seeing this.
What I do see is something different.
I have 4 different mail accounts on my Mac.  One of them is iCloud Mail, which 
is not enabled.
The others are Gmail, Outlook and AT Yahoo accounts.
The AT Yahoo account is my primary email account, and the only one for which 
I have created signatures.
I have 2 Macs, a Mac studio and a MacBook Pro.
In order to use signatures, I have to create them on each Mac, and then those 
signatures can only be used on the Mac on which they were created, and only in 
the account for which they were created.
On each Mac, I can go to Mail Settings > Signatures, and in the Signatures 
table, under All Signatures, I can see all signatures created on both of my 
Macs, but can only use signatures created on the Mac on which a signature was 
created, in the account in which it was created.
I have been using a Mac since 2013, and have had 2 Macs since 2014, and this 
how signatures have worked all along.
I have just learned to accept that this is just how it is.

- Brad -



On May 6, 2024, at 21:00, ancient.aliens via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Brad,
  No idea on why I cannot make changes to the signatures? I can delete them and 
add new ones. But if I close the Mail app then open it again, all the old sigs 
are back. 

>From E.T.'s Keyboard…
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My e-Mail:
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> On May 5, 2024, at 7:16 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> I've never been able to get mail signatures to sync across both of my Max. 
> I've always had to set them up separately on each Mac.
> I've never been able to get mail signatures to sync across both of my Max. 
> I'm always had to set them up separately on each Mac.
> - Brad -
> 
> On May 5, 2024, at 18:29, ancient.aliens via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> On the 2020 MBP, I cannot edit the signatures, cannot remove what is shown 
> there in the All sigs table.
> 
> On this 2012 MBP, I have what I want for each mail account. Is there a way to 
> sync this to the 2020 Mac? Thanks.
> 
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard…
> What do batteries run on?
> My e-Mail:
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> 
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Re: Mail Signatures

[ancient.aliens via MacVisionaries]

Brad,
   No idea on why I cannot make changes to the signatures? I can delete them 
and add new ones. But if I close the Mail app then open it again, all the old 
sigs are back. 

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> On May 5, 2024, at 7:16 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> I've never been able to get mail signatures to sync across both of my Max. 
> I've always had to set them up separately on each Mac.
> I've never been able to get mail signatures to sync across both of my Max. 
> I'm always had to set them up separately on each Mac.
> - Brad -
> 
> On May 5, 2024, at 18:29, ancient.aliens via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
>  On the 2020 MBP, I cannot edit the signatures, cannot remove what is shown 
> there in the All sigs table.
> 
>  On this 2012 MBP, I have what I want for each mail account. Is there a way 
> to sync this to the 2020 Mac? Thanks.
> 
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard…
> What do batteries run on?
> My e-Mail:
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
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Re: Mail Signatures

[ancient.aliens via MacVisionaries]

   Bummer. Any idea why I cannot even start fresh on the 2020 Mac? I can remove 
all the sigs but when I open Mail again, they are back. 

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> On May 5, 2024, at 7:16 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
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> I've never been able to get mail signatures to sync across both of my Max. 
> I've always had to set them up separately on each Mac.
> I've never been able to get mail signatures to sync across both of my Max. 
> I'm always had to set them up separately on each Mac.
> - Brad -
> 
> On May 5, 2024, at 18:29, ancient.aliens via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi all,
>  On the 2020 MBP, I cannot edit the signatures, cannot remove what is shown 
> there in the All sigs table.
> 
>  On this 2012 MBP, I have what I want for each mail account. Is there a way 
> to sync this to the 2020 Mac? Thanks.
> 
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Re: Mail Signatures

[Brad Snyder]

I've never been able to get mail signatures to sync across both of my Max. I've 
always had to set them up separately on each Mac.
I've never been able to get mail signatures to sync across both of my Max. I'm 
always had to set them up separately on each Mac.
- Brad -

On May 5, 2024, at 18:29, ancient.aliens via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi all,
  On the 2020 MBP, I cannot edit the signatures, cannot remove what is shown 
there in the All sigs table.

  On this 2012 MBP, I have what I want for each mail account. Is there a way to 
sync this to the 2020 Mac? Thanks.
   

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Mail Signatures

[ancient.aliens via MacVisionaries]

Hi all,
   On the 2020 MBP, I cannot edit the signatures, cannot remove what is shown 
there in the All sigs table.

   On this 2012 MBP, I have what I want for each mail account. Is there a way 
to sync this to the 2020 Mac? Thanks. 


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Re: electronic signatures

['Jason J.G. White' via MacVisionaries]

In general, if accessibility isn’t mentioned on the Web site of an application, 
then it isn’t accessible to screen reader users. I’m sure there are exceptions, 
but, in my experience, this is usually how it goes. Accessibility doesn’t occur 
by accident.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  on 
behalf of Lorie McCloud 
Date: Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 00:41
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Subject: Re: electronic signatures
this is something called Jotform sign. couldn’t find anything about 
accessibility on their website.

> On May 3, 2023, at 5:48 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
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> I think I got it to work once with the Track Pad by writing my signature in 
> the box. It took, but it was a site that probably would have taken it 
> regardless, so I don’t know for sure.
>
>> On May 3, 2023, at 13:52, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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>> There are some forms I’m filling out online for classes. they want a 
>> signature. is there an accessible way to do this?
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Re: electronic signatures

[Lorie McCloud]

this is something called Jotform sign. couldn’t find anything about 
accessibility on their website.

> On May 3, 2023, at 5:48 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
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> I think I got it to work once with the Track Pad by writing my signature in 
> the box. It took, but it was a site that probably would have taken it 
> regardless, so I don’t know for sure.
> 
>> On May 3, 2023, at 13:52, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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>> There are some forms I’m filling out online for classes. they want a 
>> signature. is there an accessible way to do this?
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>> thanks.
>> Lorie
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Re: electronic signatures

['Jason J.G. White' via MacVisionaries]

The forms that I’ve encountered let you set check boxes and activate a button 
to provide an electronic signature (e.g., DocuSign).
Find out whether the system you’re using has an accessible option.
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  on 
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Date: Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 14:52
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Subject: electronic signatures
There are some forms I’m filling out online for classes. they want a signature. 
is there an accessible way to do this?

thanks.
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Re: electronic signatures

[Herbie Allen]

I think I got it to work once with the Track Pad by writing my signature in the 
box. It took, but it was a site that probably would have taken it regardless, 
so I don’t know for sure.

> On May 3, 2023, at 13:52, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> thanks.
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electronic signatures

[Lorie McCloud]

There are some forms I’m filling out online for classes. they want a signature. 
is there an accessible way to do this?

thanks.
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RE: Moderator Note - Signatures and Politics etc on the List

[Simon A Fogarty]

And another one bites the dust.


From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Friday, 3 July 2020 7:28 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Moderator Note - Signatures and Politics etc on the List

Hi Cara,
Thank you for replying. Unfortunately I don’t think I can remain on this list.
I’d like to say thank you to all of those people that helped me with my Mac 
over the last year and a half.
People would be most welcome to keep in touch off list.
petrus.t...@gmail.com<mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>



On 3/07/2020, at 06:05, Cara Quinn 
mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com>> wrote:

Hi All,

Firstly, please let me apologize for the delay in writing. My keeping up with 
each topic these days has been in fits and starts.

I want to thank a hand full of kind souls who highlighted the recent troubling 
thread. -And I needed to make sure I read through the thread(s) in entirety 
before I spoke.

Regrettably, we have people who have either left this list over the last couple 
of days or those who feel that that might be appropriate.

To address at least some of what has happened here, I’d just like to say first 
of all, that here on this list, everyone is viewed and treated equally. Every 
race, creed and color is equal here. This goes for our attitudes and opinions 
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possible, be constructive and help de-escalate disagreements. We need to foster 
common ground and really help each other move ahead.

We are all users of Apple products here with certain needs in our daily usage 
of these products. We share these needs as well as the daily victories that 
these products enable us to have. Sometimes we have set-backs as well. We share 
those too.

We are one community here and even though this is just a mailing list in the 
grand scheme of things, we each provide help and support to each other here. 
That is our purpose.

So please keep this in mind when we write to each other here. Please bear in 
mind that we are people here; we all have lives and stories. We are much more 
than screen names. Please remember this and act to promote dignaty, respect and 
politeness.

It can really go a long way for all of us.

thank you all so much for reading this. Please know that I appreciate you and 
this community that we have all built here.

Let me wish you and yours well.
Please have a great holiday for those who celebrate and a great weekend for 
everyone!

Cheers!

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RE: Moderator Note - Signatures and Politics etc on the List

[Simon A Fogarty]

HI Cara,

Thanks for this and we do understand that you can't always be there to over see 
things as we'd all like.
Take care.


Simon F
 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
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Sent: Friday, 3 July 2020 6:06 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Cc: Cara Quinn 
Subject: Moderator Note - Signatures and Politics etc on the List

Hi All,

Firstly, please let me apologize for the delay in writing. My keeping up with 
each topic these days has been in fits and starts.

I want to thank a hand full of kind souls who highlighted the recent troubling 
thread. -And I needed to make sure I read through the thread(s) in entirety 
before I spoke.

Regrettably, we have people who have either left this list over the last couple 
of days or those who feel that that might be appropriate.

To address at least some of what has happened here, I’d just like to say first 
of all, that here on this list, everyone is viewed and treated equally. Every 
race, creed and color is equal here. This goes for our attitudes and opinions 
as well.

this does not mean however, that this list is a place to express all attitudes 
and opinions., This list is no place for political discussions, plain and 
simple.

Please keep all discussions of politics and political themes off this list.

This list is also no place for deliberately inflammatory speech. What this 
means, is that in the case of signatures, if someone has a sig that simplly 
states how they personally feel and is not aimed at anyone, then that sig is 
allowed. This is free speech.

However, if that signature is being used as a way to get a public message out 
without actually coming right out and saying that message; and using this list 
as a vehicle to do so, then that is absolutely not allowed here.

There is enough going on in the world today that people who would like to share 
their political views in discussion or debate should have ample forums in which 
to do so. This list is not one of them.

This list is a technology list so that is where our discussions should be 
focused.

If you feel you need to get a message out or feel that you cannot be respectful 
of others and their experiences or cannot at the very least, be polite, then 
this list is not the place for you.

Please consider going somewhere else.

Lastly, if someone offends you, please write them off-list. Please, whenever 
possible, be constructive and help de-escalate disagreements. We need to foster 
common ground and really help each other move ahead.

We are all users of Apple products here with certain needs in our daily usage 
of these products. We share these needs as well as the daily victories that 
these products enable us to have. Sometimes we have set-backs as well. We share 
those too.

We are one community here and even though this is just a mailing list in the 
grand scheme of things, we each provide help and support to each other here. 
That is our purpose.

So please keep this in mind when we write to each other here. Please bear in 
mind that we are people here; we all have lives and stories. We are much more 
than screen names. Please remember this and act to promote dignaty, respect and 
politeness.

It can really go a long way for all of us.

thank you all so much for reading this. Please know that I appreciate you and 
this community that we have all built here.

Let me wish you and yours well.
Please have a great holiday for those who celebrate and a great weekend for 
everyone!

Cheers!

Cara


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Re: Moderator Note - Signatures and Politics etc on the List

[Robin]

Oops, I   meant  ThisMessage to be Off the MailingList, MyApologies
At 03:52 PM 7/2/2020, you wrote:

Is This Mr.Eric i.e., the R  Guy from the MobileApp, Vorail?
Meanin' Back  in May2016 & June2016?
JustWonderin
At 02:11 PM 7/2/2020, you wrote:

Hmmm.
Never caught that thread. Usually, when I see 
politics, I simply delete and move on. 
Political discussions often devolve into 
meaningless arguments, insults, name calling, 
labeling and argumentative fallacies. I get 
enough of that on Facebook, twitter, tick tock, 
snapchat, what sap, and LinkedIn.


I think the only exception is politics but only 
where apple and it̢۪s products are concerned,



BUT ONLY THAT. Once it goes OT, then that̢۪s



where it needs to end. Mind you, this is just my opinion.

Anyway, don̢۪t drop off the list because of


politics. Simply delete the thread and move on. 
Believe me, it cuts down on the stress and gives you some control.


Just my 2 cents worth.

-Eric


> On Jul 2, 2020, at 11:05 AM, Cara Quinn  wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Firstly, please let me apologize for the 
delay in writing. My keeping up with each 
topic these days has been in fits and starts.

>
> I want to thank a hand full of kind souls 
who highlighted the recent troubling thread. 
-And I needed to make sure I read through the 
thread(s) in entirety before I spoke.

>
> Regrettably, we have people who have either 
left this list over the last couple of days or 
those who feel that that might be appropriate.

>
> To address at least some of what has 
happened here, I̢۪d just like to say first of all, that


here on this list, everyone is viewed and 
treated equally. Every race, creed and color is 
equal here. This goes for our attitudes and opinions as well.

>
> this does not mean however, that this list 
is a place to express all attitudes and 
opinions., This list is no place for political discussions, plain and simple.

>
> Please keep all discussions of politics and 
political themes off this list.

>
> This list is also no place for deliberately 
inflammatory speech. What this means, is that 
in the case of signatures, if someone has a 
sig that simplly states how they personally 
feel and is not aimed at anyone, then that sig is allowed. This is free speech.

>
> However, if that signature is being used as 
a way to get a public message out without 
actually coming right out and saying that 
message; and using this list as a vehicle to 
do so, then that is absolutely not allowed here.

>
> There is enough going on in the world today 
that people who would like to share their 
political views in discussion or debate should 
have ample forums in which to do so. This list is not one of them.

>
> This list is a technology list so that is 
where our discussions should be focused.

>
> If you feel you need to get a message out or 
feel that you cannot be respectful of others 
and their experiences or cannot at the very 
least, be polite, then this list is not the place for you.

>
> Please consider going somewhere else.
>
> Lastly, if someone offends you, please write 
them off-list. Please, whenever possible, be 
constructive and help de-escalate 
disagreements. We need to foster common ground 
and really help each other move ahead.

>
> We are all users of Apple products here with 
certain needs in our daily usage of these 
products. We share these needs as well as the 
daily victories that these products enable us 
to have. Sometimes we have set-backs as well. We share those too.

>
> We are one community here and even though 
this is just a mailing list in the grand 
scheme of things, we each provide help and 
support to each other here. That is our purpose.

>
> So please keep this in mind when we write to 
each other here. Please bear in mind that we 
are people here; we all have lives and 
stories. We are much more than screen names. 
Please remember this and act to promote dignaty, respect and politeness.

>
> It can really go a long way for all of us.
>
> thank you all so much for reading this. 
Please know that I appreciate you and this 
community that we have all built here.

>
> Let me wish you and yours well.
> Please have a great holiday for those who 
celebrate and a great weekend for everyone!

>
> Cheers!
>
> Cara
>
>
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all members of the Mac Visionaries list.

>
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a member's post is inappropriate, please 
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rather than posting on the list itself.

>
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Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

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Re: Moderator Note - Signatures and Politics etc on the List

[Robin]

Is This Mr.Eric i.e., the R  Guy from the MobileApp, Vorail?
Meanin' Back  in May2016 & June2016?
JustWonderin
At 02:11 PM 7/2/2020, you wrote:

Hmmm.
Never caught that thread. Usually, when I see 
politics, I simply delete and move on. Political 
discussions often devolve into meaningless 
arguments, insults, name calling, labeling and 
argumentative fallacies. I get enough of that on 
Facebook, twitter, tick tock, snapchat, what sap, and LinkedIn.


I think the only exception is politics but only 
where apple and it’s products are concerned, 
BUT ONLY THAT. Once it goes OT, then that’s 
where it needs to end. Mind you, this is just my opinion.


Anyway, don’t drop off the list because of 
politics. Simply delete the thread and move on. 
Believe me, it cuts down on the stress and gives you some control.


Just my 2 cents worth.

-Eric


> On Jul 2, 2020, at 11:05 AM, Cara Quinn  wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Firstly, please let me apologize for the 
delay in writing. My keeping up with each topic 
these days has been in fits and starts.

>
> I want to thank a hand full of kind souls who 
highlighted the recent troubling thread. -And I 
needed to make sure I read through the thread(s) in entirety before I spoke.

>
> Regrettably, we have people who have either 
left this list over the last couple of days or 
those who feel that that might be appropriate.

>
> To address at least some of what has happened 
here, I’d just like to say first of all, that 
here on this list, everyone is viewed and 
treated equally. Every race, creed and color is 
equal here. This goes for our attitudes and opinions as well.

>
> this does not mean however, that this list is 
a place to express all attitudes and opinions., 
This list is no place for political discussions, plain and simple.

>
> Please keep all discussions of politics and political themes off this list.
>
> This list is also no place for deliberately 
inflammatory speech. What this means, is that 
in the case of signatures, if someone has a sig 
that simplly states how they personally feel 
and is not aimed at anyone, then that sig is allowed. This is free speech.

>
> However, if that signature is being used as a 
way to get a public message out without 
actually coming right out and saying that 
message; and using this list as a vehicle to do 
so, then that is absolutely not allowed here.

>
> There is enough going on in the world today 
that people who would like to share their 
political views in discussion or debate should 
have ample forums in which to do so. This list is not one of them.

>
> This list is a technology list so that is 
where our discussions should be focused.

>
> If you feel you need to get a message out or 
feel that you cannot be respectful of others 
and their experiences or cannot at the very 
least, be polite, then this list is not the place for you.

>
> Please consider going somewhere else.
>
> Lastly, if someone offends you, please write 
them off-list. Please, whenever possible, be 
constructive and help de-escalate 
disagreements. We need to foster common ground 
and really help each other move ahead.

>
> We are all users of Apple products here with 
certain needs in our daily usage of these 
products. We share these needs as well as the 
daily victories that these products enable us 
to have. Sometimes we have set-backs as well. We share those too.

>
> We are one community here and even though 
this is just a mailing list in the grand scheme 
of things, we each provide help and support to 
each other here. That is our purpose.

>
> So please keep this in mind when we write to 
each other here. Please bear in mind that we 
are people here; we all have lives and stories. 
We are much more than screen names. Please 
remember this and act to promote dignaty, respect and politeness.

>
> It can really go a long way for all of us.
>
> thank you all so much for reading this. 
Please know that I appreciate you and this 
community that we have all built here.

>
> Let me wish you and yours well.
> Please have a great holiday for those who 
celebrate and a great weekend for everyone!

>
> Cheers!
>
> Cara
>
>
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>
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member's post is inappropriate, please contact 
the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

>
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Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  mk...@ucla.edu 
and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

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Re: Moderator Note - Signatures and Politics etc on the List

[Robin]

I'm not Leavin' this MailingList

At 01:12 PM 7/2/2020, you wrote:
I didn't follow that thread so I'm not leaving. 
I have my opinions like everybody else but there 
are plenty of other places to express those.


> On Jul 2, 2020, at 3:08 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' 
via MacVisionaries  wrote:

>
> I hope everyone isn’t leaving as it would 
be a sad day.  We should be helping each other 
and not fighting.  There’s enough sadness in 
the world with the virus and other things happening.

>
> Kawal.
>
>> On 2 Jul 2020, at 20:34, 'E.T.' via 
MacVisionaries  wrote:

>>
>>  Stay put Petrus. Don't let anyone try to run you off.
>>
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Freedom of Speech Carries With
>> It Implicit Responsibility.
>>
>> On 7/2/2020 12:27 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:
>>> Hi Cara,
>>> Thank you for replying. Unfortunately I 
don’t think I can remain on this list.
>>> I’d like to say thank you to all of those 
people that helped me with my Mac over the last year and a half.

>>> People would be most welcome to keep in touch off list.
>>> petrus.t...@gmail.com <mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>
>>>> On 3/07/2020, at 06:05, Cara Quinn 
mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com>> wrote:

>>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> Firstly, please let me apologize for the 
delay in writing. My keeping up with each topic 
these days has been in fits and starts.

>>>>
>>>> I want to thank a hand full of kind souls 
who highlighted the recent troubling thread. 
-And I needed to make sure I read through the 
thread(s) in entirety before I spoke.

>>>>
>>>> Regrettably, we have people who have 
either left this list over the last couple of 
days or those who feel that that might be appropriate.

>>>>
>>>> To address at least some of what has 
happened here, I’d just like to say first of 
all, that here on this list, everyone is viewed 
and treated equally. Every race, creed and 
color is equal here. This goes for our attitudes and opinions as well.

>>>>
>>>> this does not mean however, that this list 
is a place to express all attitudes and 
opinions., This list is no place for political discussions, plain and simple.

>>>>
>>>> Please keep all discussions of politics 
and political themes off this list.

>>>>
>>>> This list is also no place for 
deliberately inflammatory speech. What this 
means, is that in the case of signatures, if 
someone has a sig that simplly states how they 
personally feel and is not aimed at anyone, 
then that sig is allowed. This is free speech.

>>>>
>>>> However, if that signature is being used 
as a way to get a public message out without 
actually coming right out and saying that 
message; and using this list as a vehicle to do 
so, then that is absolutely not allowed here.

>>>>
>>>> There is enough going on in the world 
today that people who would like to share their 
political views in discussion or debate should 
have ample forums in which to do so. This list is not one of them.

>>>>
>>>> This list is a technology list so that is 
where our discussions should be focused.

>>>>
>>>> If you feel you need to get a message out 
or feel that you cannot be respectful of others 
and their experiences or cannot at the very 
least, be polite, then this list is not the place for you.

>>>>
>>>> Please consider going somewhere else.
>>>>
>>>> Lastly, if someone offends you, please 
write them off-list. Please, whenever possible, 
be constructive and help de-escalate 
disagreements. We need to foster common ground 
and really help each other move ahead.

>>>>
>>>> We are all users of Apple products here 
with certain needs in our daily usage of these 
products. We share these needs as well as the 
daily victories that these products enable us 
to have. Sometimes we have set-backs as well. We share those too.

>>>>
>>>> We are one community here and even though 
this is just a mailing list in the grand scheme 
of things, we each provide help and support to 
each other here. That is our purpose.

>>>>
>>>> So please keep this in mind when we write 
to each other here. Please bear in mind that we 
are people here; we all have lives and stories. 
We are much more than screen names. Please 
remember this and act to promote dignaty, respect and politeness.

>>>>
>>>> It can really go a long way for all of us.
>>>>
>>>> thank you all so much for reading this. 
Please know that I appreciate you and th

Re: Moderator Note - Signatures and Politics etc on the List

[Eric Oyen]

Hmmm.
Never caught that thread. Usually, when I see politics, I simply delete and 
move on. Political discussions often devolve into meaningless arguments, 
insults, name calling, labeling and argumentative fallacies. I get enough of 
that on Facebook, twitter, tick tock, snapchat, what sap, and LinkedIn.

I think the only exception is politics but only where apple and it’s products 
are concerned, BUT ONLY THAT. Once it goes OT, then that’s where it needs to 
end. Mind you, this is just my opinion.

Anyway, don’t drop off the list because of politics. Simply delete the thread 
and move on. Believe me, it cuts down on the stress and gives you some control.

Just my 2 cents worth.

-Eric


> On Jul 2, 2020, at 11:05 AM, Cara Quinn  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Firstly, please let me apologize for the delay in writing. My keeping up with 
> each topic these days has been in fits and starts.
> 
> I want to thank a hand full of kind souls who highlighted the recent 
> troubling thread. -And I needed to make sure I read through the thread(s) in 
> entirety before I spoke.
> 
> Regrettably, we have people who have either left this list over the last 
> couple of days or those who feel that that might be appropriate.
> 
> To address at least some of what has happened here, I’d just like to say 
> first of all, that here on this list, everyone is viewed and treated equally. 
> Every race, creed and color is equal here. This goes for our attitudes and 
> opinions as well.
> 
> this does not mean however, that this list is a place to express all 
> attitudes and opinions., This list is no place for political discussions, 
> plain and simple.
> 
> Please keep all discussions of politics and political themes off this list.
> 
> This list is also no place for deliberately inflammatory speech. What this 
> means, is that in the case of signatures, if someone has a sig that simplly 
> states how they personally feel and is not aimed at anyone, then that sig is 
> allowed. This is free speech.
> 
> However, if that signature is being used as a way to get a public message out 
> without actually coming right out and saying that message; and using this 
> list as a vehicle to do so, then that is absolutely not allowed here.
> 
> There is enough going on in the world today that people who would like to 
> share their political views in discussion or debate should have ample forums 
> in which to do so. This list is not one of them.
> 
> This list is a technology list so that is where our discussions should be 
> focused.
> 
> If you feel you need to get a message out or feel that you cannot be 
> respectful of others and their experiences or cannot at the very least, be 
> polite, then this list is not the place for you.
> 
> Please consider going somewhere else.
> 
> Lastly, if someone offends you, please write them off-list. Please, whenever 
> possible, be constructive and help de-escalate disagreements. We need to 
> foster common ground and really help each other move ahead.
> 
> We are all users of Apple products here with certain needs in our daily usage 
> of these products. We share these needs as well as the daily victories that 
> these products enable us to have. Sometimes we have set-backs as well. We 
> share those too.
> 
> We are one community here and even though this is just a mailing list in the 
> grand scheme of things, we each provide help and support to each other here. 
> That is our purpose.
> 
> So please keep this in mind when we write to each other here. Please bear in 
> mind that we are people here; we all have lives and stories. We are much more 
> than screen names. Please remember this and act to promote dignaty, respect 
> and politeness.
> 
> It can really go a long way for all of us.
> 
> thank you all so much for reading this. Please know that I appreciate you and 
> this community that we have all built here.
> 
> Let me wish you and yours well.
> Please have a great holiday for those who celebrate and a great weekend for 
> everyone!
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> Cara
> 
> 
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> list.
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> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
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Re: Moderator Note - Signatures and Politics etc on the List

[Karen Lewellen]

And the individual's signature?
Has something been said to them privately?



On Thu, 2 Jul 2020, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries wrote:


I hope everyone isn’t leaving as it would be a sad day.  We should be helping 
each other and not fighting.  There’s enough sadness in the world with the 
virus and other things happening.

Kawal.


On 2 Jul 2020, at 20:34, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

  Stay put Petrus. Don't let anyone try to run you off.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Freedom of Speech Carries With
It Implicit Responsibility.

On 7/2/2020 12:27 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:

Hi Cara,
Thank you for replying. Unfortunately I don’t think I can remain on this list.
I’d like to say thank you to all of those people that helped me with my Mac 
over the last year and a half.
People would be most welcome to keep in touch off list.
petrus.t...@gmail.com <mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>

On 3/07/2020, at 06:05, Cara Quinn mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com>> wrote:

Hi All,

Firstly, please let me apologize for the delay in writing. My keeping up with 
each topic these days has been in fits and starts.

I want to thank a hand full of kind souls who highlighted the recent troubling 
thread. -And I needed to make sure I read through the thread(s) in entirety 
before I spoke.

Regrettably, we have people who have either left this list over the last couple 
of days or those who feel that that might be appropriate.

To address at least some of what has happened here, I’d just like to say first 
of all, that here on this list, everyone is viewed and treated equally. Every 
race, creed and color is equal here. This goes for our attitudes and opinions 
as well.

this does not mean however, that this list is a place to express all attitudes 
and opinions., This list is no place for political discussions, plain and 
simple.

Please keep all discussions of politics and political themes off this list.

This list is also no place for deliberately inflammatory speech. What this 
means, is that in the case of signatures, if someone has a sig that simplly 
states how they personally feel and is not aimed at anyone, then that sig is 
allowed. This is free speech.

However, if that signature is being used as a way to get a public message out 
without actually coming right out and saying that message; and using this list 
as a vehicle to do so, then that is absolutely not allowed here.

There is enough going on in the world today that people who would like to share 
their political views in discussion or debate should have ample forums in which 
to do so. This list is not one of them.

This list is a technology list so that is where our discussions should be 
focused.

If you feel you need to get a message out or feel that you cannot be respectful 
of others and their experiences or cannot at the very least, be polite, then 
this list is not the place for you.

Please consider going somewhere else.

Lastly, if someone offends you, please write them off-list. Please, whenever 
possible, be constructive and help de-escalate disagreements. We need to foster 
common ground and really help each other move ahead.

We are all users of Apple products here with certain needs in our daily usage 
of these products. We share these needs as well as the daily victories that 
these products enable us to have. Sometimes we have set-backs as well. We share 
those too.

We are one community here and even though this is just a mailing list in the 
grand scheme of things, we each provide help and support to each other here. 
That is our purpose.

So please keep this in mind when we write to each other here. Please bear in 
mind that we are people here; we all have lives and stories. We are much more 
than screen names. Please remember this and act to promote dignaty, respect and 
politeness.

It can really go a long way for all of us.

thank you all so much for reading this. Please know that I appreciate you and 
this community that we have all built here.

Let me wish you and yours well.
Please have a great holiday for those who celebrate and a great weekend for 
everyone!

Cheers!

Cara


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Re: Moderator Note - Signatures and Politics etc on the List

[Lorie McCloud]

I didn't follow that thread so I'm not leaving. I have my opinions like 
everybody else but there are plenty of other places to express those.

> On Jul 2, 2020, at 3:08 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> I hope everyone isn’t leaving as it would be a sad day.  We should be helping 
> each other and not fighting.  There’s enough sadness in the world with the 
> virus and other things happening.  
> 
> Kawal.
> 
>> On 2 Jul 2020, at 20:34, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>  Stay put Petrus. Don't let anyone try to run you off.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Freedom of Speech Carries With
>> It Implicit Responsibility.
>> 
>> On 7/2/2020 12:27 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:
>>> Hi Cara,
>>> Thank you for replying. Unfortunately I don’t think I can remain on this 
>>> list.
>>> I’d like to say thank you to all of those people that helped me with my Mac 
>>> over the last year and a half.
>>> People would be most welcome to keep in touch off list.
>>> petrus.t...@gmail.com <mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>
>>>> On 3/07/2020, at 06:05, Cara Quinn >>> <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi All,
>>>> 
>>>> Firstly, please let me apologize for the delay in writing. My keeping up 
>>>> with each topic these days has been in fits and starts.
>>>> 
>>>> I want to thank a hand full of kind souls who highlighted the recent 
>>>> troubling thread. -And I needed to make sure I read through the thread(s) 
>>>> in entirety before I spoke.
>>>> 
>>>> Regrettably, we have people who have either left this list over the last 
>>>> couple of days or those who feel that that might be appropriate.
>>>> 
>>>> To address at least some of what has happened here, I’d just like to say 
>>>> first of all, that here on this list, everyone is viewed and treated 
>>>> equally. Every race, creed and color is equal here. This goes for our 
>>>> attitudes and opinions as well.
>>>> 
>>>> this does not mean however, that this list is a place to express all 
>>>> attitudes and opinions., This list is no place for political discussions, 
>>>> plain and simple.
>>>> 
>>>> Please keep all discussions of politics and political themes off this list.
>>>> 
>>>> This list is also no place for deliberately inflammatory speech. What this 
>>>> means, is that in the case of signatures, if someone has a sig that 
>>>> simplly states how they personally feel and is not aimed at anyone, then 
>>>> that sig is allowed. This is free speech.
>>>> 
>>>> However, if that signature is being used as a way to get a public message 
>>>> out without actually coming right out and saying that message; and using 
>>>> this list as a vehicle to do so, then that is absolutely not allowed here.
>>>> 
>>>> There is enough going on in the world today that people who would like to 
>>>> share their political views in discussion or debate should have ample 
>>>> forums in which to do so. This list is not one of them.
>>>> 
>>>> This list is a technology list so that is where our discussions should be 
>>>> focused.
>>>> 
>>>> If you feel you need to get a message out or feel that you cannot be 
>>>> respectful of others and their experiences or cannot at the very least, be 
>>>> polite, then this list is not the place for you.
>>>> 
>>>> Please consider going somewhere else.
>>>> 
>>>> Lastly, if someone offends you, please write them off-list. Please, 
>>>> whenever possible, be constructive and help de-escalate disagreements. We 
>>>> need to foster common ground and really help each other move ahead.
>>>> 
>>>> We are all users of Apple products here with certain needs in our daily 
>>>> usage of these products. We share these needs as well as the daily 
>>>> victories that these products enable us to have. Sometimes we have 
>>>> set-backs as well. We share those too.
>>>> 
>>>> We are one community here and even though this is just a mailing list in 
>>>> the grand scheme of things, we each provide help and support to each other 
>>>> here. That is our purpose.
>>>> 
>>>> So please keep this in 

Re: Moderator Note - Signatures and Politics etc on the List

['Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries]

I hope everyone isn’t leaving as it would be a sad day.  We should be helping 
each other and not fighting.  There’s enough sadness in the world with the 
virus and other things happening.  

Kawal.

> On 2 Jul 2020, at 20:34, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   Stay put Petrus. Don't let anyone try to run you off.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Freedom of Speech Carries With
> It Implicit Responsibility.
> 
> On 7/2/2020 12:27 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:
>> Hi Cara,
>> Thank you for replying. Unfortunately I don’t think I can remain on this 
>> list.
>> I’d like to say thank you to all of those people that helped me with my Mac 
>> over the last year and a half.
>> People would be most welcome to keep in touch off list.
>> petrus.t...@gmail.com <mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>
>>> On 3/07/2020, at 06:05, Cara Quinn >> <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>> 
>>> Firstly, please let me apologize for the delay in writing. My keeping up 
>>> with each topic these days has been in fits and starts.
>>> 
>>> I want to thank a hand full of kind souls who highlighted the recent 
>>> troubling thread. -And I needed to make sure I read through the thread(s) 
>>> in entirety before I spoke.
>>> 
>>> Regrettably, we have people who have either left this list over the last 
>>> couple of days or those who feel that that might be appropriate.
>>> 
>>> To address at least some of what has happened here, I’d just like to say 
>>> first of all, that here on this list, everyone is viewed and treated 
>>> equally. Every race, creed and color is equal here. This goes for our 
>>> attitudes and opinions as well.
>>> 
>>> this does not mean however, that this list is a place to express all 
>>> attitudes and opinions., This list is no place for political discussions, 
>>> plain and simple.
>>> 
>>> Please keep all discussions of politics and political themes off this list.
>>> 
>>> This list is also no place for deliberately inflammatory speech. What this 
>>> means, is that in the case of signatures, if someone has a sig that simplly 
>>> states how they personally feel and is not aimed at anyone, then that sig 
>>> is allowed. This is free speech.
>>> 
>>> However, if that signature is being used as a way to get a public message 
>>> out without actually coming right out and saying that message; and using 
>>> this list as a vehicle to do so, then that is absolutely not allowed here.
>>> 
>>> There is enough going on in the world today that people who would like to 
>>> share their political views in discussion or debate should have ample 
>>> forums in which to do so. This list is not one of them.
>>> 
>>> This list is a technology list so that is where our discussions should be 
>>> focused.
>>> 
>>> If you feel you need to get a message out or feel that you cannot be 
>>> respectful of others and their experiences or cannot at the very least, be 
>>> polite, then this list is not the place for you.
>>> 
>>> Please consider going somewhere else.
>>> 
>>> Lastly, if someone offends you, please write them off-list. Please, 
>>> whenever possible, be constructive and help de-escalate disagreements. We 
>>> need to foster common ground and really help each other move ahead.
>>> 
>>> We are all users of Apple products here with certain needs in our daily 
>>> usage of these products. We share these needs as well as the daily 
>>> victories that these products enable us to have. Sometimes we have 
>>> set-backs as well. We share those too.
>>> 
>>> We are one community here and even though this is just a mailing list in 
>>> the grand scheme of things, we each provide help and support to each other 
>>> here. That is our purpose.
>>> 
>>> So please keep this in mind when we write to each other here. Please bear 
>>> in mind that we are people here; we all have lives and stories. We are much 
>>> more than screen names. Please remember this and act to promote dignaty, 
>>> respect and politeness.
>>> 
>>> It can really go a long way for all of us.
>>> 
>>> thank you all so much for reading this. Please know that I appreciate you 
>>> and this community that we have all built here.
>>> 
>>> Let me wish you and yours well.
>>> Please have a gr

Re: Moderator Note - Signatures and Politics etc on the List

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Stay put Petrus. Don't let anyone try to run you off.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Freedom of Speech Carries With
It Implicit Responsibility.

On 7/2/2020 12:27 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:

Hi Cara,
Thank you for replying. Unfortunately I don’t think I can remain on this 
list.
I’d like to say thank you to all of those people that helped me with my 
Mac over the last year and a half.

People would be most welcome to keep in touch off list.
petrus.t...@gmail.com <mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>


On 3/07/2020, at 06:05, Cara Quinn <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com>> wrote:


Hi All,

Firstly, please let me apologize for the delay in writing. My keeping 
up with each topic these days has been in fits and starts.


I want to thank a hand full of kind souls who highlighted the recent 
troubling thread. -And I needed to make sure I read through the 
thread(s) in entirety before I spoke.


Regrettably, we have people who have either left this list over the 
last couple of days or those who feel that that might be appropriate.


To address at least some of what has happened here, I’d just like to 
say first of all, that here on this list, everyone is viewed and 
treated equally. Every race, creed and color is equal here. This goes 
for our attitudes and opinions as well.


this does not mean however, that this list is a place to express all 
attitudes and opinions., This list is no place for political 
discussions, plain and simple.


Please keep all discussions of politics and political themes off this 
list.


This list is also no place for deliberately inflammatory speech. What 
this means, is that in the case of signatures, if someone has a sig 
that simplly states how they personally feel and is not aimed at 
anyone, then that sig is allowed. This is free speech.


However, if that signature is being used as a way to get a public 
message out without actually coming right out and saying that message; 
and using this list as a vehicle to do so, then that is absolutely not 
allowed here.


There is enough going on in the world today that people who would like 
to share their political views in discussion or debate should have 
ample forums in which to do so. This list is not one of them.


This list is a technology list so that is where our discussions should 
be focused.


If you feel you need to get a message out or feel that you cannot be 
respectful of others and their experiences or cannot at the very 
least, be polite, then this list is not the place for you.


Please consider going somewhere else.

Lastly, if someone offends you, please write them off-list. Please, 
whenever possible, be constructive and help de-escalate disagreements. 
We need to foster common ground and really help each other move ahead.


We are all users of Apple products here with certain needs in our 
daily usage of these products. We share these needs as well as the 
daily victories that these products enable us to have. Sometimes we 
have set-backs as well. We share those too.


We are one community here and even though this is just a mailing list 
in the grand scheme of things, we each provide help and support to 
each other here. That is our purpose.


So please keep this in mind when we write to each other here. Please 
bear in mind that we are people here; we all have lives and stories. 
We are much more than screen names. Please remember this and act to 
promote dignaty, respect and politeness.


It can really go a long way for all of us.

thank you all so much for reading this. Please know that I appreciate 
you and this community that we have all built here.


Let me wish you and yours well.
Please have a great holiday for those who celebrate and a great 
weekend for everyone!


Cheers!

Cara


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Re: Moderator Note - Signatures and Politics etc on the List

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Hi Cara,
Thank you for replying. Unfortunately I don’t think I can remain on this list. 
I’d like to say thank you to all of those people that helped me with my Mac 
over the last year and a half.  
People would be most welcome to keep in touch off list.
petrus.t...@gmail.com 


> On 3/07/2020, at 06:05, Cara Quinn  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Firstly, please let me apologize for the delay in writing. My keeping up with 
> each topic these days has been in fits and starts.
> 
> I want to thank a hand full of kind souls who highlighted the recent 
> troubling thread. -And I needed to make sure I read through the thread(s) in 
> entirety before I spoke.
> 
> Regrettably, we have people who have either left this list over the last 
> couple of days or those who feel that that might be appropriate.
> 
> To address at least some of what has happened here, I’d just like to say 
> first of all, that here on this list, everyone is viewed and treated equally. 
> Every race, creed and color is equal here. This goes for our attitudes and 
> opinions as well.
> 
> this does not mean however, that this list is a place to express all 
> attitudes and opinions., This list is no place for political discussions, 
> plain and simple.
> 
> Please keep all discussions of politics and political themes off this list.
> 
> This list is also no place for deliberately inflammatory speech. What this 
> means, is that in the case of signatures, if someone has a sig that simplly 
> states how they personally feel and is not aimed at anyone, then that sig is 
> allowed. This is free speech.
> 
> However, if that signature is being used as a way to get a public message out 
> without actually coming right out and saying that message; and using this 
> list as a vehicle to do so, then that is absolutely not allowed here.
> 
> There is enough going on in the world today that people who would like to 
> share their political views in discussion or debate should have ample forums 
> in which to do so. This list is not one of them.
> 
> This list is a technology list so that is where our discussions should be 
> focused.
> 
> If you feel you need to get a message out or feel that you cannot be 
> respectful of others and their experiences or cannot at the very least, be 
> polite, then this list is not the place for you.
> 
> Please consider going somewhere else.
> 
> Lastly, if someone offends you, please write them off-list. Please, whenever 
> possible, be constructive and help de-escalate disagreements. We need to 
> foster common ground and really help each other move ahead.
> 
> We are all users of Apple products here with certain needs in our daily usage 
> of these products. We share these needs as well as the daily victories that 
> these products enable us to have. Sometimes we have set-backs as well. We 
> share those too.
> 
> We are one community here and even though this is just a mailing list in the 
> grand scheme of things, we each provide help and support to each other here. 
> That is our purpose.
> 
> So please keep this in mind when we write to each other here. Please bear in 
> mind that we are people here; we all have lives and stories. We are much more 
> than screen names. Please remember this and act to promote dignaty, respect 
> and politeness.
> 
> It can really go a long way for all of us.
> 
> thank you all so much for reading this. Please know that I appreciate you and 
> this community that we have all built here.
> 
> Let me wish you and yours well.
> Please have a great holiday for those who celebrate and a great weekend for 
> everyone!
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> Cara
> 
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[Cara Quinn]

Hi All,

Firstly, please let me apologize for the delay in writing. My keeping up with 
each topic these days has been in fits and starts.

I want to thank a hand full of kind souls who highlighted the recent troubling 
thread. -And I needed to make sure I read through the thread(s) in entirety 
before I spoke.

Regrettably, we have people who have either left this list over the last couple 
of days or those who feel that that might be appropriate.

To address at least some of what has happened here, I’d just like to say first 
of all, that here on this list, everyone is viewed and treated equally. Every 
race, creed and color is equal here. This goes for our attitudes and opinions 
as well.

this does not mean however, that this list is a place to express all attitudes 
and opinions., This list is no place for political discussions, plain and 
simple.

Please keep all discussions of politics and political themes off this list.

This list is also no place for deliberately inflammatory speech. What this 
means, is that in the case of signatures, if someone has a sig that simplly 
states how they personally feel and is not aimed at anyone, then that sig is 
allowed. This is free speech.

However, if that signature is being used as a way to get a public message out 
without actually coming right out and saying that message; and using this list 
as a vehicle to do so, then that is absolutely not allowed here.

There is enough going on in the world today that people who would like to share 
their political views in discussion or debate should have ample forums in which 
to do so. This list is not one of them.

This list is a technology list so that is where our discussions should be 
focused.

If you feel you need to get a message out or feel that you cannot be respectful 
of others and their experiences or cannot at the very least, be polite, then 
this list is not the place for you.

Please consider going somewhere else.

Lastly, if someone offends you, please write them off-list. Please, whenever 
possible, be constructive and help de-escalate disagreements. We need to foster 
common ground and really help each other move ahead.

We are all users of Apple products here with certain needs in our daily usage 
of these products. We share these needs as well as the daily victories that 
these products enable us to have. Sometimes we have set-backs as well. We share 
those too.

We are one community here and even though this is just a mailing list in the 
grand scheme of things, we each provide help and support to each other here. 
That is our purpose.

So please keep this in mind when we write to each other here. Please bear in 
mind that we are people here; we all have lives and stories. We are much more 
than screen names. Please remember this and act to promote dignaty, respect and 
politeness.

It can really go a long way for all of us.

thank you all so much for reading this. Please know that I appreciate you and 
this community that we have all built here.

Let me wish you and yours well.
Please have a great holiday for those who celebrate and a great weekend for 
everyone!

Cheers!

Cara


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Re: Signatures in Apple mail under Mojave

[Lorie McCloud]

ok. thanks. I think I got it to work the way I want it to now.

> On Oct 23, 2019, at 5:52 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   Don't select All sigs if you want to assign sigs to specific email 
> accounts. Much easier to rake that step right off the bat.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 10/23/2019 3:47 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
>> thanks. that did it. it already has something in there which I didn't 
>> realize. now I have to see if I can assign signatures to email accounts.
>>> On Oct 23, 2019, at 5:41 PM, Pete De Vasto  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Lorie,
>>> 
>>> If you go to Mail > Preferences, and get into the toolbar, one of the 
>>> options is Signatures. If you click on that, you’ll go into a table that 
>>> lists all the available signatures you have. If you select a particular 
>>> signature, you can then VO right once, and it will put you into a text 
>>> field with the text that will appear in that signature. You should be able 
>>> to edit it at that point. I may have missed a step but wanted to get 
>>> something back to you as a start. Please, anybody, feel free to chime in if 
>>> you can make the process even clearer.
>>> 
>>> Pete De Vasto
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 23, 2019, at 3:32 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I can name a signature but I can't figure out how to put content in it. 
>>>> how do I edit it?
>>>> 
>>>> thanks.
>>>> Lorie
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Re: Signatures in Apple mail under Mojave

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Don't select All sigs if you want to assign sigs to specific email 
accounts. Much easier to rake that step right off the bat.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 10/23/2019 3:47 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:

thanks. that did it. it already has something in there which I didn't realize. 
now I have to see if I can assign signatures to email accounts.


On Oct 23, 2019, at 5:41 PM, Pete De Vasto  wrote:

Lorie,

If you go to Mail > Preferences, and get into the toolbar, one of the options 
is Signatures. If you click on that, you’ll go into a table that lists all the 
available signatures you have. If you select a particular signature, you can then 
VO right once, and it will put you into a text field with the text that will 
appear in that signature. You should be able to edit it at that point. I may have 
missed a step but wanted to get something back to you as a start. Please, anybody, 
feel free to chime in if you can make the process even clearer.

Pete De Vasto



On Oct 23, 2019, at 3:32 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

I can name a signature but I can't figure out how to put content in it. how do 
I edit it?

thanks.
Lorie

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Re: Signatures in Apple mail under Mojave

[Lorie McCloud]

thanks. that did it. it already has something in there which I didn't realize. 
now I have to see if I can assign signatures to email accounts.

> On Oct 23, 2019, at 5:41 PM, Pete De Vasto  wrote:
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> Lorie,
> 
> If you go to Mail > Preferences, and get into the toolbar, one of the options 
> is Signatures. If you click on that, you’ll go into a table that lists all 
> the available signatures you have. If you select a particular signature, you 
> can then VO right once, and it will put you into a text field with the text 
> that will appear in that signature. You should be able to edit it at that 
> point. I may have missed a step but wanted to get something back to you as a 
> start. Please, anybody, feel free to chime in if you can make the process 
> even clearer.
> 
> Pete De Vasto
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>> On Oct 23, 2019, at 3:32 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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>> I can name a signature but I can't figure out how to put content in it. how 
>> do I edit it?
>> 
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Re: Signatures in Apple mail under Mojave

[Pete De Vasto]

Lorie,

If you go to Mail > Preferences, and get into the toolbar, one of the options 
is Signatures. If you click on that, you’ll go into a table that lists all the 
available signatures you have. If you select a particular signature, you can 
then VO right once, and it will put you into a text field with the text that 
will appear in that signature. You should be able to edit it at that point. I 
may have missed a step but wanted to get something back to you as a start. 
Please, anybody, feel free to chime in if you can make the process even clearer.

Pete De Vasto


> On Oct 23, 2019, at 3:32 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> I can name a signature but I can't figure out how to put content in it. how 
> do I edit it?
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> thanks.
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Re: Signatures in Apple mail under Mojave

[Lorie McCloud]

third one is the one I can't fine. I manage to name it but I don't know how to 
give it text. how do I do that?

> On Oct 23, 2019, at 5:40 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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>   There are 3 sections  to work through. First one is where you select All 
> sigs or a specific account. Second one is where you give the sig a title. 
> Third one is where you enter the text.
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> On 10/23/2019 3:32 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
>> I can name a signature but I can't figure out how to put content in it. how 
>> do I edit it?
>> thanks.
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Re: Signatures in Apple mail under Mojave

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   There are 3 sections  to work through. First one is where you select 
All sigs or a specific account. Second one is where you give the sig a 
title. Third one is where you enter the text.


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   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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in the past. What if it were true?

On 10/23/2019 3:32 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:

I can name a signature but I can't figure out how to put content in it. how do 
I edit it?

thanks.
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Signatures in Apple mail under Mojave

[Lorie McCloud]

I can name a signature but I can't figure out how to put content in it. how do 
I edit it?

thanks.
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Re: signatures in Apple mail

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

go into Mail Preferences, and in the Toolbar, select Signatures.

Later...


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On Oct 17, 2019, at 14:39, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

I want to edit a signature in Apple mail in Mojave. where is this located?

thanks.
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signatures in Apple mail

[Lorie McCloud]

I want to edit a signature in Apple mail in Mojave. where is this located?

thanks.
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Re: Signatures

[Devin Prater]

Hi, you have to make the signature for the accounts specifically, not for all 
accounts only.
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> The signature that I want to use is in the signature table but when I go to 
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Hi all,
The signature that I want to use is in the signature table but when I go to 
write a message it doesn’t show as an option.
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Re: Need help creating signatures in El Capitan

[E.T.]

   Open Mail, go to Mail preferences, Signatures. Select your email 
account from the table, or select All Signatures if you want to use the 
same sigs for all accounts. The rest will be easy to figure out. The 
next table is where you will create the names for each sig, the final 
table where you will enter the corresponding sigs.


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On 11/12/2017 1:34 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote:

Hi,
I used to no how to do this, but I had to redo my email account.
Now I can’t figure out how to create custom signatures.
Could someone give me step by step instruction please?



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Need help creating signatures in El Capitan

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Hi,
I used to no how to do this, but I had to redo my email account.
Now I can’t figure out how to create custom signatures.
Could someone give me step by step instruction please?

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Re: E-Mail Signatures

[E.T.]

   I have not done this in High Sierra so do not know if its changed. 
It appears to be the same as in Sierra.


   In Mail preferences, signatures tab, there is a table with all your 
accounts plus All Signatures. This is where you decide what sig you want 
to associate with any account, or all of them.


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On 10/6/2017 10:36 AM, Bill Gallik wrote:

I have three e-mail accounts and a number of signatures; some I’d prefer to be 
available for only one of the accounts and many that I would like to be 
available to all three accounts.

Perhaps I misunderstand the concepts of signatures in Mac OS, but I thought a 
person could create a number of signatures specific to a specific account and 
some that can be applied to all accounts.  Can this be done? And, if so, how 
does one set up signatures in this manner?

For example, I have an iCloud account, a gmail account and a charter account; 
is it possible to have signatures that could apply to all three accounts, a 
list of signatures that would apply to the iCloud (this) account, a list of 
signatures that apply only to the gmail account and a list of signatures that 
apply only to the charter account?



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E-Mail Signatures

[Bill Gallik]

I have three e-mail accounts and a number of signatures; some I’d prefer to be 
available for only one of the accounts and many that I would like to be 
available to all three accounts. 

Perhaps I misunderstand the concepts of signatures in Mac OS, but I thought a 
person could create a number of signatures specific to a specific account and 
some that can be applied to all accounts.  Can this be done? And, if so, how 
does one set up signatures in this manner?

For example, I have an iCloud account, a gmail account and a charter account; 
is it possible to have signatures that could apply to all three accounts, a 
list of signatures that would apply to the iCloud (this) account, a list of 
signatures that apply only to the gmail account and a list of signatures that 
apply only to the charter account?



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Re: Any Way to Disable Signatures

[Jonathan Cohn]

One can drag signatures into a specific account, but this is quite difficult to 
do with VoiceOver. There is a  AppleScript that creates a new message and then 
appends a random signature to the end of the message. signature 
Best wishes,

Jonathan



> On Nov 26, 2016, at 10:12 AM, Bill Gallik <wfgal...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> With the Christmas Season upon us I would like to include several seasonal 
> signatures in my catalog of signatures.  What I’m looking for is a way to 
> have the Christmas signatures enabled while disabling the non-seasonal 
> signatures.  And then, of course, after the Holidays disabling the Christmas 
> signatures and re-enabling the non-seasonal signatures.  Is there a way to 
> maintain a number of signatures in the catalog with some not available while 
> others are usable?
> 
> 
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Any Way to Disable Signatures

[Bill Gallik]

With the Christmas Season upon us I would like to include several seasonal 
signatures in my catalog of signatures.  What I’m looking for is a way to have 
the Christmas signatures enabled while disabling the non-seasonal signatures.  
And then, of course, after the Holidays disabling the Christmas signatures and 
re-enabling the non-seasonal signatures.  Is there a way to maintain a number 
of signatures in the catalog with some not available while others are usable?


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Re: Signatures again.

[John Panarese]

  I don’t know. I recall the same thing happening to me, which is why I had to 
create them from scratch on each system. However, this was a while back, so it 
might have changed in later operating systems.


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> On Sep 24, 2016, at 9:40 PM, Kliphton Miller <kliph...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> John, I have noticed that when I do signatures on 1 system, it removes them 
> on another.  Meaning, it won’t stay on both at the same time.  You have a fix 
> for this?
>> On Sep 24, 2016, at 8:41 PM, John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:jpanar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>I’d have to check to see if mail signatures are supposed to actually sync 
>> over. For some reason, I recall having to do them myself again on each 
>> system. You might want to uncheck Mail and recheck it again on the Mini in 
>> System Prefs in iCloud settings.
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
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>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
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>>> On Sep 24, 2016, at 8:38 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com 
>>> <mailto:kgli...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes it did John.
>>> 
>>> I was so happy with the fresh install as there were no hitches.  I just 
>>> found the Macmini a bit slow than my powerful I Mac as it has half the 
>>> memory being a 16 rather than the 32 ram.  `Now it feels as if it's come 
>>> from the factory.  So much better than windows.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
>>>> On 25 Sep 2016, at 01:28, John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:jpanar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>Did everything else sync over onto the Mini from iCloud?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Take Care
>>>> 
>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>> Director
>>>> Mac for the Blind
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>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 24, 2016, at 8:25 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com 
>>>>> <mailto:kgli...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I did create a new one John and put it in I cloud but even though my Mac 
>>>>> Mini is on the same network it can't find it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kawal.
>>>>>> On 25 Sep 2016, at 00:21, John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:jpanar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>Does the popup give you the option for the signature. What you might 
>>>>>> want to do is create a new signature and just copy and paste the text 
>>>>>> from the original to the new one.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>> Director
>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>>>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com <mailto:j...@macfortheblind.com>
>>>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com <http://www.macfortheblind.com/>
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sep 24, 2016, at 7:12 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com 

Re: Signatures again.

[Kliphton Miller]

John, I have noticed that when I do signatures on 1 system, it removes them on 
another.  Meaning, it won’t stay on both at the same time.  You have a fix for 
this?
> On Sep 24, 2016, at 8:41 PM, John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>I’d have to check to see if mail signatures are supposed to actually sync 
> over. For some reason, I recall having to do them myself again on each 
> system. You might want to uncheck Mail and recheck it again on the Mini in 
> System Prefs in iCloud settings.
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
> Tel, (631) 724-4479
> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com <mailto:j...@macfortheblind.com>
> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com <http://www.macfortheblind.com/>
> 
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> 
>> On Sep 24, 2016, at 8:38 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com 
>> <mailto:kgli...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes it did John.
>> 
>> I was so happy with the fresh install as there were no hitches.  I just 
>> found the Macmini a bit slow than my powerful I Mac as it has half the 
>> memory being a 16 rather than the 32 ram.  `Now it feels as if it's come 
>> from the factory.  So much better than windows.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>>> On 25 Sep 2016, at 01:28, John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:jpanar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>Did everything else sync over onto the Mini from iCloud?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> 
>>> John D. Panarese
>>> Director
>>> Mac for the Blind
>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com <mailto:j...@macfortheblind.com>
>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com <http://www.macfortheblind.com/>
>>> 
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>>> 
>>>> On Sep 24, 2016, at 8:25 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com 
>>>> <mailto:kgli...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I did create a new one John and put it in I cloud but even though my Mac 
>>>> Mini is on the same network it can't find it.
>>>> 
>>>> Kawal.
>>>>> On 25 Sep 2016, at 00:21, John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com 
>>>>> <mailto:jpanar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>Does the popup give you the option for the signature. What you might 
>>>>> want to do is create a new signature and just copy and paste the text 
>>>>> from the original to the new one.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Take Care
>>>>> 
>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>> Director
>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com <mailto:j...@macfortheblind.com>
>>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com <http://www.macfortheblind.com/>
>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 24, 2016, at 7:12 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:kgli...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It's set to none.  I want it set to my name.  That is the problem, how 
>>>>>> can I get it set to my Signature in In I Cloud?  I want to drag my 
>>>>>> signature to the pop up box but I don't know how.
>>>>>>> On 24 Sep 2016, at 23:59, John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>> <mailto:jpanar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In Mail preferences, when you are looking at the iCloud signature, 
>>>>>>> there is a popup button all the way to the right. This will set the 
>>>>>>> signature as the default one. Is that set?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>&

Re: Signatures again.

[John Panarese]

   I’d have to check to see if mail signatures are supposed to actually sync 
over. For some reason, I recall having to do them myself again on each system. 
You might want to uncheck Mail and recheck it again on the Mini in System Prefs 
in iCloud settings.


Take Care

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Mac for the Blind
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> On Sep 24, 2016, at 8:38 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes it did John.
> 
> I was so happy with the fresh install as there were no hitches.  I just found 
> the Macmini a bit slow than my powerful I Mac as it has half the memory being 
> a 16 rather than the 32 ram.  `Now it feels as if it's come from the factory. 
>  So much better than windows.
> 
> Kawal.
>> On 25 Sep 2016, at 01:28, John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:jpanar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>Did everything else sync over onto the Mini from iCloud?
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com <mailto:j...@macfortheblind.com>
>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com <http://www.macfortheblind.com/>
>> 
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>> 
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>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 24, 2016, at 8:25 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com 
>>> <mailto:kgli...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I did create a new one John and put it in I cloud but even though my Mac 
>>> Mini is on the same network it can't find it.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
>>>> On 25 Sep 2016, at 00:21, John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:jpanar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>Does the popup give you the option for the signature. What you might 
>>>> want to do is create a new signature and just copy and paste the text from 
>>>> the original to the new one.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Take Care
>>>> 
>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>> Director
>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com <mailto:j...@macfortheblind.com>
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>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 24, 2016, at 7:12 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com 
>>>>> <mailto:kgli...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> It's set to none.  I want it set to my name.  That is the problem, how 
>>>>> can I get it set to my Signature in In I Cloud?  I want to drag my 
>>>>> signature to the pop up box but I don't know how.
>>>>>> On 24 Sep 2016, at 23:59, John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:jpanar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In Mail preferences, when you are looking at the iCloud signature, 
>>>>>> there is a popup button all the way to the right. This will set the 
>>>>>> signature as the default one. Is that set?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>> Director
>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>>>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com <mailto:j...@macfortheblind.com>
>>>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com <http://www.macfortheblind.com/>
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sep 24, 2016, at 6:31 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com 
>>>>>>> <mailto:kgli...@i

Re: Signatures again.

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Yes it did John.

I was so happy with the fresh install as there were no hitches.  I just found 
the Macmini a bit slow than my powerful I Mac as it has half the memory being a 
16 rather than the 32 ram.  `Now it feels as if it's come from the factory.  So 
much better than windows.

Kawal.
> On 25 Sep 2016, at 01:28, John Panarese  wrote:
> 
>Did everything else sync over onto the Mini from iCloud?
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
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> 
>> On Sep 24, 2016, at 8:25 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu > > wrote:
>> 
>> I did create a new one John and put it in I cloud but even though my Mac 
>> Mini is on the same network it can't find it.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>>> On 25 Sep 2016, at 00:21, John Panarese >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>>Does the popup give you the option for the signature. What you might 
>>> want to do is create a new signature and just copy and paste the text from 
>>> the original to the new one.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> 
>>> John D. Panarese
>>> Director
>>> Mac for the Blind
>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com 
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>>> 
>>> 
 On Sep 24, 2016, at 7:12 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu > wrote:
 
 It's set to none.  I want it set to my name.  That is the problem, how can 
 I get it set to my Signature in In I Cloud?  I want to drag my signature 
 to the pop up box but I don't know how.
> On 24 Sep 2016, at 23:59, John Panarese  > wrote:
> 
> In Mail preferences, when you are looking at the iCloud signature, 
> there is a popup button all the way to the right. This will set the 
> signature as the default one. Is that set?
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
> Tel, (631) 724-4479
> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com 
> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com 
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> 
>> On Sep 24, 2016, at 6:31 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi John.
>> 
>> What I'd like to do is if I have an I phone, Mac or Mac Mini and because 
>> I'm using the same ID for all, because I have composed my signature in 
>> my mail I Cloud account, regardless of whether I'm sending from an Alias 
>> or my main e-mail, I can select the same signature that I might have 
>> written regardless of what device I'm using.  Just like if I had 
>> composed an I message on my phone, and then finished the same on my Mac. 
>>  Do you understand what I'm saying?  I want a globabl signature that 
>> will work any where despite what device you are composing from.  May be 
>> the same as the universal copy and paste feature that people have been 
>> talking about.  I must find the Apple Viz Podcast which explains it.  If 
>> anyone has that link please post it or send me off list please.
>> 
>> To the left of this message there is a signature pop up button and I 
>> can't select my signature that I wrote a few months ago because I have 
>> installed Sierra but can see all the text in my I cloud signature 
>> settings.  I find this so frustrating.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>>> On 24 Sep 2016, at 22:51, John Panarese >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>>I’m not sure what you are trying to do here. Do you mean where the 
>>> signature actually show up in a message. Or do you mean you want to use 
>>> the signature text in different accounts?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> 
>>> John D. Panarese
>>> Director
>>> Mac for the Blind
>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com 
>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com 
>>> 
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>>> 
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Re: Signatures again.

[John Panarese]

   Did everything else sync over onto the Mini from iCloud?


Take Care

John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
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> On Sep 24, 2016, at 8:25 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> I did create a new one John and put it in I cloud but even though my Mac Mini 
> is on the same network it can't find it.
> 
> Kawal.
>> On 25 Sep 2016, at 00:21, John Panarese > > wrote:
>> 
>>Does the popup give you the option for the signature. What you might want 
>> to do is create a new signature and just copy and paste the text from the 
>> original to the new one.
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com 
>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com 
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 24, 2016, at 7:12 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> It's set to none.  I want it set to my name.  That is the problem, how can 
>>> I get it set to my Signature in In I Cloud?  I want to drag my signature to 
>>> the pop up box but I don't know how.
 On 24 Sep 2016, at 23:59, John Panarese > wrote:
 
 In Mail preferences, when you are looking at the iCloud signature, 
 there is a popup button all the way to the right. This will set the 
 signature as the default one. Is that set?
 
 
 Take Care
 
 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com 
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com 
 
 APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer
 
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> On Sep 24, 2016, at 6:31 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  > wrote:
> 
> Hi John.
> 
> What I'd like to do is if I have an I phone, Mac or Mac Mini and because 
> I'm using the same ID for all, because I have composed my signature in my 
> mail I Cloud account, regardless of whether I'm sending from an Alias or 
> my main e-mail, I can select the same signature that I might have written 
> regardless of what device I'm using.  Just like if I had composed an I 
> message on my phone, and then finished the same on my Mac.  Do you 
> understand what I'm saying?  I want a globabl signature that will work 
> any where despite what device you are composing from.  May be the same as 
> the universal copy and paste feature that people have been talking about. 
>  I must find the Apple Viz Podcast which explains it.  If anyone has that 
> link please post it or send me off list please.
> 
> To the left of this message there is a signature pop up button and I 
> can't select my signature that I wrote a few months ago because I have 
> installed Sierra but can see all the text in my I cloud signature 
> settings.  I find this so frustrating.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Kawal.
>> On 24 Sep 2016, at 22:51, John Panarese > > wrote:
>> 
>>I’m not sure what you are trying to do here. Do you mean where the 
>> signature actually show up in a message. Or do you mean you want to use 
>> the signature text in different accounts?
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com 
>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com 
>> 
>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer
>> 
>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>> 
>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 24, 2016, at 5:49 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi.
>>> 
>>> Just have installed Sierra on to two of my computers namely the Mac 
>>> Mini and I Mac after a clean install.
>>> 
>>> Process went well and I'm very happy with it all.
>>> 
>>> Now I'm just setting up my Macs as I like them and have one problem 
>>> though.
>>> 
>>> I have a signature in I Cloud which I can see meaning I can read the 

Re: Signatures again.

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

I did create a new one John and put it in I cloud but even though my Mac Mini 
is on the same network it can't find it.

Kawal.
> On 25 Sep 2016, at 00:21, John Panarese  wrote:
> 
>Does the popup give you the option for the signature. What you might want 
> to do is create a new signature and just copy and paste the text from the 
> original to the new one.
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
> Tel, (631) 724-4479
> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com 
> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com 
> 
> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer
> 
> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
> 
> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2016, at 7:12 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu > > wrote:
>> 
>> It's set to none.  I want it set to my name.  That is the problem, how can I 
>> get it set to my Signature in In I Cloud?  I want to drag my signature to 
>> the pop up box but I don't know how.
>>> On 24 Sep 2016, at 23:59, John Panarese >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> In Mail preferences, when you are looking at the iCloud signature, 
>>> there is a popup button all the way to the right. This will set the 
>>> signature as the default one. Is that set?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> 
>>> John D. Panarese
>>> Director
>>> Mac for the Blind
>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com 
>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com 
>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sep 24, 2016, at 6:31 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu > wrote:
 
 Hi John.
 
 What I'd like to do is if I have an I phone, Mac or Mac Mini and because 
 I'm using the same ID for all, because I have composed my signature in my 
 mail I Cloud account, regardless of whether I'm sending from an Alias or 
 my main e-mail, I can select the same signature that I might have written 
 regardless of what device I'm using.  Just like if I had composed an I 
 message on my phone, and then finished the same on my Mac.  Do you 
 understand what I'm saying?  I want a globabl signature that will work any 
 where despite what device you are composing from.  May be the same as the 
 universal copy and paste feature that people have been talking about.  I 
 must find the Apple Viz Podcast which explains it.  If anyone has that 
 link please post it or send me off list please.
 
 To the left of this message there is a signature pop up button and I can't 
 select my signature that I wrote a few months ago because I have installed 
 Sierra but can see all the text in my I cloud signature settings.  I find 
 this so frustrating.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Kawal.
> On 24 Sep 2016, at 22:51, John Panarese  > wrote:
> 
>I’m not sure what you are trying to do here. Do you mean where the 
> signature actually show up in a message. Or do you mean you want to use 
> the signature text in different accounts?
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
> Tel, (631) 724-4479
> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com 
> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com 
> 
> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer
> 
> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
> 
> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2016, at 5:49 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi.
>> 
>> Just have installed Sierra on to two of my computers namely the Mac Mini 
>> and I Mac after a clean install.
>> 
>> Process went well and I'm very happy with it all.
>> 
>> Now I'm just setting up my Macs as I like them and have one problem 
>> though.
>> 
>> I have a signature in I Cloud which I can see meaning I can read the 
>> signature name and all the text I wrote in it but I can't add or drag it 
>> to where I want it to be so that it won't appear at the end of my text.
>> 
>> How does one do that please?
>> 
>> I'd like a step by step guide if possible.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> 
>> -- 
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>> Visionaries list.
>> 
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Re: Signatures again.

[John Panarese]

   Does the popup give you the option for the signature. What you might want to 
do is create a new signature and just copy and paste the text from the original 
to the new one.


Take Care

John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
Tel, (631) 724-4479
Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com

APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer

AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE

MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT



> On Sep 24, 2016, at 7:12 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> It's set to none.  I want it set to my name.  That is the problem, how can I 
> get it set to my Signature in In I Cloud?  I want to drag my signature to the 
> pop up box but I don't know how.
>> On 24 Sep 2016, at 23:59, John Panarese > > wrote:
>> 
>> In Mail preferences, when you are looking at the iCloud signature, there 
>> is a popup button all the way to the right. This will set the signature as 
>> the default one. Is that set?
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com 
>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com 
>> 
>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer
>> 
>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>> 
>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 24, 2016, at 6:31 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi John.
>>> 
>>> What I'd like to do is if I have an I phone, Mac or Mac Mini and because 
>>> I'm using the same ID for all, because I have composed my signature in my 
>>> mail I Cloud account, regardless of whether I'm sending from an Alias or my 
>>> main e-mail, I can select the same signature that I might have written 
>>> regardless of what device I'm using.  Just like if I had composed an I 
>>> message on my phone, and then finished the same on my Mac.  Do you 
>>> understand what I'm saying?  I want a globabl signature that will work any 
>>> where despite what device you are composing from.  May be the same as the 
>>> universal copy and paste feature that people have been talking about.  I 
>>> must find the Apple Viz Podcast which explains it.  If anyone has that link 
>>> please post it or send me off list please.
>>> 
>>> To the left of this message there is a signature pop up button and I can't 
>>> select my signature that I wrote a few months ago because I have installed 
>>> Sierra but can see all the text in my I cloud signature settings.  I find 
>>> this so frustrating.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
 On 24 Sep 2016, at 22:51, John Panarese > wrote:
 
I’m not sure what you are trying to do here. Do you mean where the 
 signature actually show up in a message. Or do you mean you want to use 
 the signature text in different accounts?
 
 
 Take Care
 
 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com 
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com 
 
 APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer
 
 AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
 
 MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
 
 
 
> On Sep 24, 2016, at 5:49 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  > wrote:
> 
> Hi.
> 
> Just have installed Sierra on to two of my computers namely the Mac Mini 
> and I Mac after a clean install.
> 
> Process went well and I'm very happy with it all.
> 
> Now I'm just setting up my Macs as I like them and have one problem 
> though.
> 
> I have a signature in I Cloud which I can see meaning I can read the 
> signature name and all the text I wrote in it but I can't add or drag it 
> to where I want it to be so that it won't appear at the end of my text.
> 
> How does one do that please?
> 
> I'd like a step by step guide if possible.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Kawal.
> 
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Re: Signatures again.

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

It's set to none.  I want it set to my name.  That is the problem, how can I 
get it set to my Signature in In I Cloud?  I want to drag my signature to the 
pop up box but I don't know how.
> On 24 Sep 2016, at 23:59, John Panarese  > wrote:
> 
> In Mail preferences, when you are looking at the iCloud signature, there 
> is a popup button all the way to the right. This will set the signature as 
> the default one. Is that set?
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
> Tel, (631) 724-4479
> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com 
> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com 
> 
> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer
> 
> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
> 
> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2016, at 6:31 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi John.
>> 
>> What I'd like to do is if I have an I phone, Mac or Mac Mini and because I'm 
>> using the same ID for all, because I have composed my signature in my mail I 
>> Cloud account, regardless of whether I'm sending from an Alias or my main 
>> e-mail, I can select the same signature that I might have written regardless 
>> of what device I'm using.  Just like if I had composed an I message on my 
>> phone, and then finished the same on my Mac.  Do you understand what I'm 
>> saying?  I want a globabl signature that will work any where despite what 
>> device you are composing from.  May be the same as the universal copy and 
>> paste feature that people have been talking about.  I must find the Apple 
>> Viz Podcast which explains it.  If anyone has that link please post it or 
>> send me off list please.
>> 
>> To the left of this message there is a signature pop up button and I can't 
>> select my signature that I wrote a few months ago because I have installed 
>> Sierra but can see all the text in my I cloud signature settings.  I find 
>> this so frustrating.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>>> On 24 Sep 2016, at 22:51, John Panarese >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>>I’m not sure what you are trying to do here. Do you mean where the 
>>> signature actually show up in a message. Or do you mean you want to use the 
>>> signature text in different accounts?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> 
>>> John D. Panarese
>>> Director
>>> Mac for the Blind
>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com 
>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com 
>>> 
>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer
>>> 
>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>> 
>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sep 24, 2016, at 5:49 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu > wrote:
 
 Hi.
 
 Just have installed Sierra on to two of my computers namely the Mac Mini 
 and I Mac after a clean install.
 
 Process went well and I'm very happy with it all.
 
 Now I'm just setting up my Macs as I like them and have one problem though.
 
 I have a signature in I Cloud which I can see meaning I can read the 
 signature name and all the text I wrote in it but I can't add or drag it 
 to where I want it to be so that it won't appear at the end of my text.
 
 How does one do that please?
 
 I'd like a step by step guide if possible.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Kawal.
 
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Re: Signatures again.

[John Panarese]

In Mail preferences, when you are looking at the iCloud signature, there is 
a popup button all the way to the right. This will set the signature as the 
default one. Is that set?


Take Care

John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
Tel, (631) 724-4479
Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com

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> On Sep 24, 2016, at 6:31 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> Hi John.
> 
> What I'd like to do is if I have an I phone, Mac or Mac Mini and because I'm 
> using the same ID for all, because I have composed my signature in my mail I 
> Cloud account, regardless of whether I'm sending from an Alias or my main 
> e-mail, I can select the same signature that I might have written regardless 
> of what device I'm using.  Just like if I had composed an I message on my 
> phone, and then finished the same on my Mac.  Do you understand what I'm 
> saying?  I want a globabl signature that will work any where despite what 
> device you are composing from.  May be the same as the universal copy and 
> paste feature that people have been talking about.  I must find the Apple Viz 
> Podcast which explains it.  If anyone has that link please post it or send me 
> off list please.
> 
> To the left of this message there is a signature pop up button and I can't 
> select my signature that I wrote a few months ago because I have installed 
> Sierra but can see all the text in my I cloud signature settings.  I find 
> this so frustrating.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Kawal.
>> On 24 Sep 2016, at 22:51, John Panarese > > wrote:
>> 
>>I’m not sure what you are trying to do here. Do you mean where the 
>> signature actually show up in a message. Or do you mean you want to use the 
>> signature text in different accounts?
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com 
>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com 
>> 
>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer
>> 
>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>> 
>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 24, 2016, at 5:49 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi.
>>> 
>>> Just have installed Sierra on to two of my computers namely the Mac Mini 
>>> and I Mac after a clean install.
>>> 
>>> Process went well and I'm very happy with it all.
>>> 
>>> Now I'm just setting up my Macs as I like them and have one problem though.
>>> 
>>> I have a signature in I Cloud which I can see meaning I can read the 
>>> signature name and all the text I wrote in it but I can't add or drag it to 
>>> where I want it to be so that it won't appear at the end of my text.
>>> 
>>> How does one do that please?
>>> 
>>> I'd like a step by step guide if possible.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
>>> 
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Re: Signatures again.

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Hi John.

What I'd like to do is if I have an I phone, Mac or Mac Mini and because I'm 
using the same ID for all, because I have composed my signature in my mail I 
Cloud account, regardless of whether I'm sending from an Alias or my main 
e-mail, I can select the same signature that I might have written regardless of 
what device I'm using.  Just like if I had composed an I message on my phone, 
and then finished the same on my Mac.  Do you understand what I'm saying?  I 
want a globabl signature that will work any where despite what device you are 
composing from.  May be the same as the universal copy and paste feature that 
people have been talking about.  I must find the Apple Viz Podcast which 
explains it.  If anyone has that link please post it or send me off list please.

To the left of this message there is a signature pop up button and I can't 
select my signature that I wrote a few months ago because I have installed 
Sierra but can see all the text in my I cloud signature settings.  I find this 
so frustrating.

Thanks.

Kawal.
> On 24 Sep 2016, at 22:51, John Panarese  wrote:
> 
>I’m not sure what you are trying to do here. Do you mean where the 
> signature actually show up in a message. Or do you mean you want to use the 
> signature text in different accounts?
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
> Tel, (631) 724-4479
> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com 
> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com 
> 
> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer
> 
> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
> 
> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2016, at 5:49 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi.
>> 
>> Just have installed Sierra on to two of my computers namely the Mac Mini and 
>> I Mac after a clean install.
>> 
>> Process went well and I'm very happy with it all.
>> 
>> Now I'm just setting up my Macs as I like them and have one problem though.
>> 
>> I have a signature in I Cloud which I can see meaning I can read the 
>> signature name and all the text I wrote in it but I can't add or drag it to 
>> where I want it to be so that it won't appear at the end of my text.
>> 
>> How does one do that please?
>> 
>> I'd like a step by step guide if possible.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> 
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Re: Signatures again.

[John Panarese]

   I’m not sure what you are trying to do here. Do you mean where the signature 
actually show up in a message. Or do you mean you want to use the signature 
text in different accounts?


Take Care

John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
Tel, (631) 724-4479
Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com

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> On Sep 24, 2016, at 5:49 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> Hi.
> 
> Just have installed Sierra on to two of my computers namely the Mac Mini and 
> I Mac after a clean install.
> 
> Process went well and I'm very happy with it all.
> 
> Now I'm just setting up my Macs as I like them and have one problem though.
> 
> I have a signature in I Cloud which I can see meaning I can read the 
> signature name and all the text I wrote in it but I can't add or drag it to 
> where I want it to be so that it won't appear at the end of my text.
> 
> How does one do that please?
> 
> I'd like a step by step guide if possible.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Kawal.
> 
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Signatures again.

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Hi.

Just have installed Sierra on to two of my computers namely the Mac Mini and I 
Mac after a clean install.

Process went well and I'm very happy with it all.

Now I'm just setting up my Macs as I like them and have one problem though.

I have a signature in I Cloud which I can see meaning I can read the signature 
name and all the text I wrote in it but I can't add or drag it to where I want 
it to be so that it won't appear at the end of my text.

How does one do that please?

I'd like a step by step guide if possible.

Thanks.

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Re: mail signatures in siera

[Jürgen Fleger]

Hi Jean,
look in settings and in the toolbar under Signatures.
Jürgen

> Am 23.09.2016 um 05:54 schrieb Jean <radiofore...@gmail.com>:
> 
> Hello All:
> 
> I am using Siera and the signatures in the mail program are missing. Can 
> anyone tell me where to find the signature editor?
> 
> Many thanks,
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disregard mail signatures message

[Jean]

Hello Again:

Sorry, but please disregard my last message on signatures in mail. I found them 
right where they are supposed to be.


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Hello All:

I am using Siera and the signatures in the mail program are missing. Can anyone 
tell me where to find the signature editor?

Many thanks,
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Re: Mail Signatures in iCloud a perplexing situation and extremely frustrating.

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

I’m up for that.  If we could have one signature for all devices as I couldn’t 
even find the one on my I phone which said ‘sent from my I phone’ looked in all 
the usual places Settings, ICloud, mail, don’t know if I missed anything.  We 
should say to Apple or state to Apple that we’d like to set up one signautre 
which will then be available on all our devices for those of us who use ICloud.

Kawal.  
> On 30 Aug 2016, at 16:36, Jonathan Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> This does bring up an interesting issue. It would not be too difficult for 
> Apple to create an alternative method to associate signatures with Accounts. 
> They do this for contacts and mail messages with out needing to do drag and 
> drop. Anybody up for a Perhaps we can set up a petition somewhere of features 
> that would improve accessibility for blind Apple users. That would certainly 
> be more efficient than sending in 100's of individual requests.
> What do you all think? 
>  
> 
> On 30 August 2016 at 10:45, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com 
> <mailto:kilbu...@me.com>> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> The signatures are likely synced across your machines via iCloud.  So, it 
> will propagate to each machine that you have iCloud Mail services enabled.  
> These signatures created on other machines will propagate to the All 
> Signatures section but not necessarily to the specific account.  It can be 
> moved to that account with some work, but I don't believe that it is an 
> automatic process.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Aug 29, 2016, at 01:04, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com 
> <mailto:kgli...@icloud.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hi.
> 
> I made a discovery but am very frustrated with it.
> 
> Using my I Mac, I created a signature (as you will have read) so no need for 
> detail.  However, when using my Mac Mini which is on the same network as it’s 
> in my bed room upstairs, if I go to mail preferences all signatures, I can 
> read my signature which is in my all signatures tables.  Please understand 
> that in the first instance I made sure the original signature was associated 
> with my iCloud account.  But when going back in to the body of my new 
> message, I can’t select that signature even though the signature can be read 
> in mail preferences.  Does anyone know why this is the case?  I know you must 
> select an account for the signature to be associated with but my original 
> signature is associated with my I cloud account and I should not be able to 
> read it with my Mac Mini but I can.  I hope this is making sense to someone.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Kawal.
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Re: Mail Signatures in iCloud a perplexing situation and extremely frustrating.

[Jonathan Cohn]

This does bring up an interesting issue. It would not be too difficult for
Apple to create an alternative method to associate signatures with
Accounts. They do this for contacts and mail messages with out needing to
do drag and drop. Anybody up for a Perhaps we can set up a petition
somewhere of features that would improve accessibility for blind Apple
users. That would certainly be more efficient than sending in 100's of
individual requests.
What do you all think?


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> Hi,
>
> The signatures are likely synced across your machines via iCloud.  So, it
> will propagate to each machine that you have iCloud Mail services enabled.
> These signatures created on other machines will propagate to the All
> Signatures section but not necessarily to the specific account.  It can be
> moved to that account with some work, but I don't believe that it is an
> automatic process.
>
> HTH.
>
> Later...
>
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>
> On Aug 29, 2016, at 01:04, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:
>
> Hi.
>
> I made a discovery but am very frustrated with it.
>
> Using my I Mac, I created a signature (as you will have read) so no need
> for detail.  However, when using my Mac Mini which is on the same network
> as it’s in my bed room upstairs, if I go to mail preferences all
> signatures, I can read my signature which is in my all signatures tables.
> Please understand that in the first instance I made sure the original
> signature was associated with my iCloud account.  But when going back in to
> the body of my new message, I can’t select that signature even though the
> signature can be read in mail preferences.  Does anyone know why this is
> the case?  I know you must select an account for the signature to be
> associated with but my original signature is associated with my I cloud
> account and I should not be able to read it with my Mac Mini but I can.  I
> hope this is making sense to someone.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Kawal.
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Re: Mail Signatures in iCloud a perplexing situation and extremely frustrating.

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

The signatures are likely synced across your machines via iCloud.  So, it will 
propagate to each machine that you have iCloud Mail services enabled.  These 
signatures created on other machines will propagate to the All Signatures 
section but not necessarily to the specific account.  It can be moved to that 
account with some work, but I don't believe that it is an automatic process.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Aug 29, 2016, at 01:04, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:

Hi.

I made a discovery but am very frustrated with it.

Using my I Mac, I created a signature (as you will have read) so no need for 
detail.  However, when using my Mac Mini which is on the same network as it’s 
in my bed room upstairs, if I go to mail preferences all signatures, I can read 
my signature which is in my all signatures tables.  Please understand that in 
the first instance I made sure the original signature was associated with my 
iCloud account.  But when going back in to the body of my new message, I can’t 
select that signature even though the signature can be read in mail 
preferences.  Does anyone know why this is the case?  I know you must select an 
account for the signature to be associated with but my original signature is 
associated with my I cloud account and I should not be able to read it with my 
Mac Mini but I can.  I hope this is making sense to someone.

Thank you.

Kawal.

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Mail Signatures in iCloud a perplexing situation and extremely frustrating.

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Hi.

I made a discovery but am very frustrated with it.

Using my I Mac, I created a signature (as you will have read) so no need for 
detail.  However, when using my Mac Mini which is on the same network as it’s 
in my bed room upstairs, if I go to mail preferences all signatures, I can read 
my signature which is in my all signatures tables.  Please understand that in 
the first instance I made sure the original signature was associated with my 
iCloud account.  But when going back in to the body of my new message, I can’t 
select that signature even though the signature can be read in mail 
preferences.  Does anyone know why this is the case?  I know you must select an 
account for the signature to be associated with but my original signature is 
associated with my I cloud account and I should not be able to read it with my 
Mac Mini but I can.  I hope this is making sense to someone.

Thank you.

Kawal.

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Jonathan:
I finally got it. Many thanks.
Jean

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Re: signatures

[Jonathan Cohn]

NO, you have to move following my earlier instructions   from the All 
Signatures area into the area for the account you want to use the signature in. 
show up in the signature pull down.

Again, when you open up edit signatures there will be a table called 
signatures. There will be at least two lines in that table. Your signatures 
need to show up in the "names" area when a mail account is selected in the 
first table.

Take care,

Jonathan

Best wishes,

Jonathan



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> Hello Again:
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> As far as I can tell, the signatures are set up properly. The problem is that 
> when I tab to the signatures field when sending a message, all I see are none 
> and edit signatures. The signatures I have created do not appear.
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[Jean]

Hello Again:

As far as I can tell, the signatures are set up properly. The problem is that 
when I tab to the signatures field when sending a message, all I see are none 
and edit signatures. The signatures I have created do not appear.
Jean

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Re: signatures

[Jonathan Cohn]

Hello I will list the most reliable way I have found to do this.
1. Open mail preferences and switch to the signatures tab.

2. Find the table called signatures this is actually a list of mail accounts. 
Select the mailbox you want a signature in and set a hot spot for that mailbox 
perhaps hotspot 3 with vo-shift-3. You can verify you have the correct hot spot 
by typing vo-command-3 and it will tell you what mmail account u have selected. 

3. Move to the top of the table and find the all Signatures item. VO-Home 
should do this on El-Captain. 

4.  Now hit tab and you will be in a table called Names. This should have all 
of the signatures you have created. select one or more of these signatures and 
mark for drag with vo-comma.
5. Find the command “drop item at chosen hotspot” in the commands list, this is 
not bound to any key strokes or commanders  by default. so you need to use 
commands help vo-H followed by VO-H a second time.

5. Voice over will ask you for a hotspot, give it 3 if you used the keystroke I 
provided.

VoiceOver should tell you that it dragged the item(s) to your account. 

Best wishes,

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Re: signatures

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Once your message is written, shift tab to the signature field which is to the 
right of the from field, so you shift tab once and then make sure your 
signature is selected as you need to put a name to call your signature when you 
are in mail preferences.  I hope you are going in to mail preferences with 
command comma and writing your signature that way rather than system 
preferences.

Thanks.  
> On 27 Aug 2016, at 06:02, Jean <radiofore...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hello All:
> 
> I know this question has been asked before. I have put signatures in the 
> field for the purpose in system preferences. When I compose a message, there 
> is a button just below the subject line that says signatures but when I hit 
> that, my signatures do not appear. The only choices I get are none and edit 
> signatures. What am I doing wrong?
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> Jean
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signatures

[Jean]

Hello All:

I know this question has been asked before. I have put signatures in the field 
for the purpose in system preferences. When I compose a message, there is a 
button just below the subject line that says signatures but when I hit that, my 
signatures do not appear. The only choices I get are none and edit signatures. 
What am I doing wrong?

Jean

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Signatures Created in "All Signatures"

[Bill Gallik]

I created a signature in the “All Signatures” category and now want to activate 
that new signature for one of my accounts.  The Help discussion instructs to 
drag and drop this signature onto the desired account, but how is this 
accomplished when one is totally blind?
* * * * * * * * *
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RE: Mail Signatures

[Kat DeNicola]

Thanks… Looks involved, but I’ll give it a go!

 

Kat

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 4:43 PM
To: Macvisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Mail Signatures

 

You actually have to drag the signature or signatures from the right panel into 
the Email account you want them active on.

 

This is a bit difficult because if you have cursor tracking on, then when you 
move to the mail account on the left it selects that account and thereby 
unselecting all the signatures you had selected.

 

My process for this is a bit cumbersome, and if I could figure out how to do 
drag and drop with hot spots it would be much nicer.

 

1. In Mail preferences find the mail account you want to add signatures to.

2. create a hot spot for this folder.

3. select all accounts item in this list.

4. use vo-j to jump to the list of signatures.

5. turn off voice over tracking vo-shift-F3 

6. use vo-return and vo-command  to select signatures.

7. useVO-comma to start a drag operation.

8. jump to the hot  spot you added earlier.

9. use vo-period to process the drag and drop.

10. turn vo tracking back on with vo-shift-F3 

 

Hopefully I got all those steps correct. 

Other options

have a sighted person just drag the items for you or create a text expansion.

:

 

Best wishes,

Jonathan



 

On 11 Apr 2016, at 10:46, waterwogs...@gmail.com 
<mailto:waterwogs...@gmail.com>  wrote:

 

That is what's strange. The signature text is there. Everything looks as it 
should, but there's no option to select it in the pop up button when you go to 
compose a new message.

Kat


On Apr 11, 2016, at 3:05 AM, Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk 
<mailto:a...@anarchie.org.uk> > wrote:

Hello Kat,

 

To check that your signatures have been assigned properly, open Mail 
Preferences and go to the Signatures pane. Select an account in the lefthand 
table and navigate right to the list of signatures for that account. If there 
is nothing there, no signature has been assigned to that account.

 

Cheers,

 

Anne

 

 

 

On 11 Apr 2016, at 04:46, Kat DeNicola <waterwogs...@gmail.com 
<mailto:waterwogs...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

I've created a signature under All Signatures. I've created ones for my 
individual accounts. But when I compose a new message, the only options in the 
popup for selecting a signature are "none" and "edit signatures." What step am 
I missing?
Thanks!

 

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Re: Mail Signatures

[Jonathan Cohn]

You actually have to drag the signature or signatures from the right panel into 
the Email account you want them active on.

This is a bit difficult because if you have cursor tracking on, then when you 
move to the mail account on the left it selects that account and thereby 
unselecting all the signatures you had selected.

My process for this is a bit cumbersome, and if I could figure out how to do 
drag and drop with hot spots it would be much nicer.

1. In Mail preferences find the mail account you want to add signatures to.
2. create a hot spot for this folder.
3. select all accounts item in this list.
4. use vo-j to jump to the list of signatures.
5. turn off voice over tracking vo-shift-F3 
6. use vo-return and vo-command  to select signatures.
7. useVO-comma to start a drag operation.
8. jump to the hot  spot you added earlier.
9. use vo-period to process the drag and drop.
10. turn vo tracking back on with vo-shift-F3 

Hopefully I got all those steps correct. 
Other options
have a sighted person just drag the items for you or create a text expansion.
:

Best wishes,

Jonathan



> On 11 Apr 2016, at 10:46, waterwogs...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> That is what's strange. The signature text is there. Everything looks as it 
> should, but there's no option to select it in the pop up button when you go 
> to compose a new message.
> 
> Kat
> 
> On Apr 11, 2016, at 3:05 AM, Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk 
> <mailto:a...@anarchie.org.uk>> wrote:
> 
>> Hello Kat,
>> 
>> To check that your signatures have been assigned properly, open Mail 
>> Preferences and go to the Signatures pane. Select an account in the lefthand 
>> table and navigate right to the list of signatures for that account. If 
>> there is nothing there, no signature has been assigned to that account.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 11 Apr 2016, at 04:46, Kat DeNicola <waterwogs...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:waterwogs...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've created a signature under All Signatures. I've created ones for my 
>>> individual accounts. But when I compose a new message, the only options in 
>>> the popup for selecting a signature are "none" and "edit signatures." What 
>>> step am I missing?
>>> Thanks!
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Re: Mail Signatures

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Kat,

The text should be at the righthand side and the name of the signature in the 
centre panel. If there’s nothing in the centre panel, no signature has been 
assigned.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 11 Apr 2016, at 16:46, waterwogs...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> That is what's strange. The signature text is there. Everything looks as it 
> should, but there's no option to select it in the pop up button when you go 
> to compose a new message.
> 
> Kat
> 
> On Apr 11, 2016, at 3:05 AM, Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk 
> <mailto:a...@anarchie.org.uk>> wrote:
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>> Hello Kat,
>> 
>> To check that your signatures have been assigned properly, open Mail 
>> Preferences and go to the Signatures pane. Select an account in the lefthand 
>> table and navigate right to the list of signatures for that account. If 
>> there is nothing there, no signature has been assigned to that account.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 11 Apr 2016, at 04:46, Kat DeNicola <waterwogs...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:waterwogs...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've created a signature under All Signatures. I've created ones for my 
>>> individual accounts. But when I compose a new message, the only options in 
>>> the popup for selecting a signature are "none" and "edit signatures." What 
>>> step am I missing?
>>> Thanks!
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Re: Mail Signatures

[waterwogster]

That is what's strange. The signature text is there. Everything looks as it 
should, but there's no option to select it in the pop up button when you go to 
compose a new message.

Kat

> On Apr 11, 2016, at 3:05 AM, Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> Hello Kat,
> 
> To check that your signatures have been assigned properly, open Mail 
> Preferences and go to the Signatures pane. Select an account in the lefthand 
> table and navigate right to the list of signatures for that account. If there 
> is nothing there, no signature has been assigned to that account.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
>> On 11 Apr 2016, at 04:46, Kat DeNicola <waterwogs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I've created a signature under All Signatures. I've created ones for my 
>> individual accounts. But when I compose a new message, the only options in 
>> the popup for selecting a signature are "none" and "edit signatures." What 
>> step am I missing?
>> Thanks!
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Re: Mail Signatures

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Kat,

To check that your signatures have been assigned properly, open Mail 
Preferences and go to the Signatures pane. Select an account in the lefthand 
table and navigate right to the list of signatures for that account. If there 
is nothing there, no signature has been assigned to that account.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 11 Apr 2016, at 04:46, Kat DeNicola <waterwogs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I've created a signature under All Signatures. I've created ones for my 
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> the popup for selecting a signature are "none" and "edit signatures." What 
> step am I missing?
> Thanks!
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Mail Signatures

[Kat DeNicola]

I've created a signature under All Signatures. I've created ones for my 
individual accounts. But when I compose a new message, the only options in 
the popup for selecting a signature are "none" and "edit signatures." What 
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Moving mail signatures from 'all signatures' to account?

[Alex Hall]

Hi list,
I know this was mentioned--or maybe that was another list?--a while back, but 
can someone remind me how to move signatures in Mail? I'm on the Mac Mini, 
which seems to have grabbed all my signatures from iCloud. However, it dumped 
them all into 'all signatures', so my different mail accounts all lack the 
signatures they should have. How do I get them sorted? I've tried vo-comma, but 
dropping onto the account name fails, as does actually dragging a signature 
with the mouse. Thanks.

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Re: Moving mail signatures from 'all signatures' to account?

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Alex,

Did you try turning cursor tracking off either when using VO-Comma or when 
trying the other method? I just applied a signature to an account the other day 
using the VO-Comma method and it worked when I turned cursor tracking off. I 
have eight accounts and sometimes dragging and dropping fails because those 
lower down the list are not visible.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 4 Dec 2015, at 16:00, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
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> Hi list,
> I know this was mentioned--or maybe that was another list?--a while back, but 
> can someone remind me how to move signatures in Mail? I'm on the Mac Mini, 
> which seems to have grabbed all my signatures from iCloud. However, it dumped 
> them all into 'all signatures', so my different mail accounts all lack the 
> signatures they should have. How do I get them sorted? I've tried vo-comma, 
> but dropping onto the account name fails, as does actually dragging a 
> signature with the mouse. Thanks.
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Re: Moving mail signatures from 'all signatures' to account?

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

I have a signature on my I Mac which I can’t move to my Mac Mini which is up 
stairs.  So, if someone could give me a method of doing it please as I can see 
it in my Mac mini but I can’t get it added to my mail if I write using my Mac 
mini.  I wish the same signature could be present on my I phone.

Thanks.

Kawal.
> On 4 Dec 2015, at 18:45, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
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> I should have thought of that! Thanks, that did the job perfectly. I still 
> wonder why iCloud syncs all signatures, but doesn't put them on the right 
> accounts? Non-Apple accounts i add are understandable, but iCloud accounts 
> should, I think, be automatic.
>> On Dec 4, 2015, at 11:40 AM, Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk 
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>> 
>> Hello Alex,
>> 
>> Did you try turning cursor tracking off either when using VO-Comma or when 
>> trying the other method? I just applied a signature to an account the other 
>> day using the VO-Comma method and it worked when I turned cursor tracking 
>> off. I have eight accounts and sometimes dragging and dropping fails because 
>> those lower down the list are not visible.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>>> On 4 Dec 2015, at 16:00, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com 
>>> <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi list,
>>> I know this was mentioned--or maybe that was another list?--a while back, 
>>> but can someone remind me how to move signatures in Mail? I'm on the Mac 
>>> Mini, which seems to have grabbed all my signatures from iCloud. However, 
>>> it dumped them all into 'all signatures', so my different mail accounts all 
>>> lack the signatures they should have. How do I get them sorted? I've tried 
>>> vo-comma, but dropping onto the account name fails, as does actually 
>>> dragging a signature with the mouse. Thanks.
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Re: Moving mail signatures from 'all signatures' to account?

[Alex Hall]

I should have thought of that! Thanks, that did the job perfectly. I still 
wonder why iCloud syncs all signatures, but doesn't put them on the right 
accounts? Non-Apple accounts i add are understandable, but iCloud accounts 
should, I think, be automatic.
> On Dec 4, 2015, at 11:40 AM, Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> Hello Alex,
> 
> Did you try turning cursor tracking off either when using VO-Comma or when 
> trying the other method? I just applied a signature to an account the other 
> day using the VO-Comma method and it worked when I turned cursor tracking 
> off. I have eight accounts and sometimes dragging and dropping fails because 
> those lower down the list are not visible.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On 4 Dec 2015, at 16:00, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi list,
>> I know this was mentioned--or maybe that was another list?--a while back, 
>> but can someone remind me how to move signatures in Mail? I'm on the Mac 
>> Mini, which seems to have grabbed all my signatures from iCloud. However, it 
>> dumped them all into 'all signatures', so my different mail accounts all 
>> lack the signatures they should have. How do I get them sorted? I've tried 
>> vo-comma, but dropping onto the account name fails, as does actually 
>> dragging a signature with the mouse. Thanks.
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Re: more on signatures

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

I would drop the step that selects comcast. 


Jonathan Cohn 

> On Aug 31, 2015, at 9:32 AM, Ray Foret Jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Okay.  this is what I'm doing.
> 
> 1.  With curser tracking on, make sure that the one signature I want to place 
> is selected.
> 
> 2.  Turn curser tracking off.
> 
> 3.  Interact with the table.
> 
> 4.  Now, use shift+VO+5 to route the mouse to selection.
> 
> 5.  Now, With curser tracking still off, navigate to the concast signatures 
> table which is the second table.  Press VO+space here to select it.
> 
> 6.  Now, VO+right to the table where signatures are and use VO+CMD+space to 
> drop the mouse.
> 
>All no good.  Normal cutting and pasting doesn't work either.  Still think 
> I'm doing something wrong blast it!!!
> 
> 
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Re: more on signatures

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi Ray,

do the following:

1.  Navigate to the All Signatures table and make sure that All Signatures is 
selected.
2.  Stop Interacting with the Signatures table, then navigate to the Names 
table and interact with it.
3.  Navigate to the signature you wish to move, press VO-cmd-f5 to make sure 
things are routed where they should be.
4.  Press VO-comma to grab the item for dragging.
5.  Turn off cursor tracking with VO-shift-f3.
6.  Stop interacting with the Names table, navigate to the Signatures table and 
interact with it.
7.  Navigate to the desired account, ComCast in your case, then press VO-cmd-f5 
to make sure that things are properly focused.
8.  Press VO-period to drop.
9.  Turn cursor tracking back on and all should be good.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Aug 31, 2015, at 07:32, Ray Foret Jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> wrote:

Okay.  this is what I'm doing.

1.  With curser tracking on, make sure that the one signature I want to place 
is selected.

2.  Turn curser tracking off.

3.  Interact with the table.

4.  Now, use shift+VO+5 to route the mouse to selection.

5.  Now, With curser tracking still off, navigate to the concast signatures 
table which is the second table.  Press VO+space here to select it.

6.  Now, VO+right to the table where signatures are and use VO+CMD+space to 
drop the mouse.

All no good.  Normal cutting and pasting doesn't work either.  Still 
think I'm doing something wrong blast it!!!


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Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!

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Re: more on signatures

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Ray,

Shift-VO-F5 routes the VO cursor to the mouse. You want VO-Cmd-F5.
• To assign a signature to an account, select its name in the central table;
• Turn off cursor tracking;
• Bring the mouse (VO-Cmd-F5) and Press VO-Cmd-Shift-Space to do mouse down;
• Navigate left to the accounts table;
• Interact and find the account where you want to put your signature;
• Press VO-Cmd-F5 to bring the mouse;
• Press VO-Cmd-Shift-Space to release the mouse and your signature should be in 
the right place.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 31 Aug 2015, at 15:32, Ray Foret Jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Okay.  this is what I'm doing.
> 
> 1.  With curser tracking on, make sure that the one signature I want to place 
> is selected.
> 
> 2.  Turn curser tracking off.
> 
> 3.  Interact with the table.
> 
> 4.  Now, use shift+VO+5 to route the mouse to selection.
> 
> 5.  Now, With curser tracking still off, navigate to the concast signatures 
> table which is the second table.  Press VO+space here to select it.
> 
> 6.  Now, VO+right to the table where signatures are and use VO+CMD+space to 
> drop the mouse.
> 
>   All no good.  Normal cutting and pasting doesn't work either.  Still 
> think I'm doing something wrong blast it!!!
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
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Re: signatures drag and drop problem

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

Try paste after  (greater) or one at a time. If even those fail u will have to 
revert back to mouse lock down. That is what I did last time.


Jonathan Cohn 

> On Aug 31, 2015, at 7:59 AM, Ray Foret Jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Okay,
> 
> Here's what 's going on.  I'm trying to move three signatures from the all 
> signatures table to the Comcast account table.  I select all three 
> signatures, then, press VO+CMD+shift+space to pick them up then navigate to 
> the comcast table where I attempt to drop, but it never works.  What am I 
> doing wrong?
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signatures drag and drop problem

[Ray Foret Jr]

Okay,

Here's what 's going on.  I'm trying to move three signatures from the all 
signatures table to the Comcast account table.  I select all three signatures, 
then, press VO+CMD+shift+space to pick them up then navigate to the comcast 
table where I attempt to drop, but it never works.  What am I doing wrong?


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Re: signatures drag and drop problem

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Ray,

You need first of all to bring the mouse, then turn cursor tracking off before 
doing Mouse Down. You then navigate with the VO keys to where you want to drop 
the signatures, bring the mouse, then do the Mouse Up. Then remember to put 
cursor tracking back on.

I’ve never tried moving three signatures at once, but this method works for one 
signature anyway.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 31 Aug 2015, at 13:59, Ray Foret Jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Okay,
> 
> Here's what 's going on.  I'm trying to move three signatures from the all 
> signatures table to the Comcast account table.  I select all three 
> signatures, then, press VO+CMD+shift+space to pick them up then navigate to 
> the comcast table where I attempt to drop, but it never works.  What am I 
> doing wrong?
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more on signatures

[Ray Foret Jr]

Okay.  this is what I'm doing.

1.  With curser tracking on, make sure that the one signature I want to place 
is selected.

2.  Turn curser tracking off.

3.  Interact with the table.

4.  Now, use shift+VO+5 to route the mouse to selection.

5.  Now, With curser tracking still off, navigate to the concast signatures 
table which is the second table.  Press VO+space here to select it.

6.  Now, VO+right to the table where signatures are and use VO+CMD+space to 
drop the mouse.

All no good.  Normal cutting and pasting doesn't work either.  Still 
think I'm doing something wrong blast it!!!


Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
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Signatures?

[Matthew Dierckens]

Hi guys,
So as you can tell I got my signature back, but I had to manually type it in. 
Here’s what I don’t understand.
When I go to the “Al signatures” I can see all my signatures but I can’t add 
them to iCloud or Gmail.
Is there a way that I can select a signature without adding duplicates?
Thanks.
God bless.
Matthew Dierckens
Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
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Re: Signatures?

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

Drag and drop is the only way I have been able too do this. 


Jonathan Cohn 

 On Aug 29, 2015, at 11:20 AM, Matthew Dierckens matt.dierck...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi guys,
 So as you can tell I got my signature back, but I had to manually type it in. 
 Here’s what I don’t understand.
 When I go to the “Al signatures” I can see all my signatures but I can’t add 
 them to iCloud or Gmail.
 Is there a way that I can select a signature without adding duplicates?
 Thanks.
 God bless.
 Matthew Dierckens
 Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
 Macintosh, Windows and IOS  Trainer
 U.S. number: 573-401-1018
 Personal Email: matt.dierck...@me.com
 
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signatures in email

[Lorie McCloud]

I’m still having trouble with this. the only thing I see is “signature 2” which 
I don’t think really exists. the only one I have so far is named and even 
though I’ve selected it I don’t seem to be able to move it where I want it. how 
does this work?

Thanks.
Lorie

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issues dragging and dropping signatures

[Ray Foret Jr]

Okay.

I have set up my Comcast account as an imap account and thus far, all well.  
However, I cannot seem to drag and drop signatures from the All signatures 
table to the Comcast account table.  Can this even be done with Voice over?

Thanks.

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trouble dragging and dropping signatures

[Ray Foret Jr]

Hi,

Never saw an answer to this yet.  How does one drag and drop signatures in mail 
using Voice OVer from the all signatures table to the table for the actual mail 
account?  Can't seem to manage it witth the usual procedures.  Thanks.

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Re: issues dragging and dropping signatures

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi Ray,

Yes and no.  I’ve got it to work about one out of every 20 times.  What I’ve 
started doing is just copying and pasting the text from my preferred signature 
and creating a new one for the specific Mail account.  So, for example, my 
signature below is attached to my iCloud account, I select iCloud from the 
Signatures area, copy the text of the signature, then select the other account, 
in your case ComCast, then create a new signature called ComCast Home and paste 
in the text.  Not preferred but I was getting too annoyed with the multiple 
attempts.  Sometimes, the old fashioned drag and drop worked , I’m pretty sure 
the newer VO drag  drop never worked since as soon as something moved in one 
of the tables, VO would say that the focused item was no longer visible.

FYI, old fashioned drag  drop uses VO-shift-cmd-space to grab then the same 
combination to drop.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

 On Dec 5, 2014, at 05:03, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Okay.
 
 I have set up my Comcast account as an imap account and thus far, all well.  
 However, I cannot seem to drag and drop signatures from the All signatures 
 table to the Comcast account table.  Can this even be done with Voice over?
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: issues dragging and dropping signatures

[Ray Foret Jr]

Yep, was sort of afraid I'd have to go and do that.  the old or new Drag and 
drop don't do no good for me neither.


 On Dec 5, 2014, at 2:22 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Ray,
 
 Yes and no.  I’ve got it to work about one out of every 20 times.  What I’ve 
 started doing is just copying and pasting the text from my preferred 
 signature and creating a new one for the specific Mail account.  So, for 
 example, my signature below is attached to my iCloud account, I select iCloud 
 from the Signatures area, copy the text of the signature, then select the 
 other account, in your case ComCast, then create a new signature called 
 ComCast Home and paste in the text.  Not preferred but I was getting too 
 annoyed with the multiple attempts.  Sometimes, the old fashioned drag and 
 drop worked , I’m pretty sure the newer VO drag  drop never worked since as 
 soon as something moved in one of the tables, VO would say that the focused 
 item was no longer visible.
 
 FYI, old fashioned drag  drop uses VO-shift-cmd-space to grab then the same 
 combination to drop.
 
 HTH.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Dec 5, 2014, at 05:03, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Okay.
 
 I have set up my Comcast account as an imap account and thus far, all well.  
 However, I cannot seem to drag and drop signatures from the All signatures 
 table to the Comcast account table.  Can this even be done with Voice over?
 
 Thanks.
 
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Adding signatures

[The Believer]

   Seems simple but I have not succeeded in creating any yet. I want to 
create one for each of my 3 email accounts in Mountain Lion.


   I bring up Mail Preferences and select the Signature tab. I press 
the Add button and muddle from there. There is a Kames item but not sure 
how to type in the name. Then the text field for the signature text. If 
I type in text I cannot hit return to start a new line as I want to have 
3 lines, is that possible? If I copy text into that area, I see the word 
actions in there.


   I may not be doing things in the right order or using the correct VO 
commands. Can use some help with this, thanks.


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Re: Adding signatures

[The Believer]

   Well after taking a break I got back to it and figured out the 
process and added 2 signatures.


   Now next question is in regards to iCloud. Before I work on that, I 
want to know if I can create a sig for each alias. Thanks.


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On 9/5/2014 6:45 PM, The Believer wrote:

Seems simple but I have not succeeded in creating any yet. I want to
create one for each of my 3 email accounts in Mountain Lion.

I bring up Mail Preferences and select the Signature tab. I press
the Add button and muddle from there. There is a Kames item but not sure
how to type in the name. Then the text field for the signature text. If
I type in text I cannot hit return to start a new line as I want to have
3 lines, is that possible? If I copy text into that area, I see the word
actions in there.

I may not be doing things in the right order or using the correct VO
commands. Can use some help with this, thanks.

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Re: Adding signatures

[Jose Lomeli]

How did you do it? I am having the same issue! I cannot seem to add any 
signatures! Please help me out!

Jose Lomeli
Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 5, 2014, at 8:58 PM, The Believer ancient.ali...@icloud.com wrote:
 
   Well after taking a break I got back to it and figured out the process and 
 added 2 signatures.
 
   Now next question is in regards to iCloud. Before I work on that, I want to 
 know if I can create a sig for each alias. Thanks.
 
 From The Believer. . .
 . . . what if it were true?
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 
 On 9/5/2014 6:45 PM, The Believer wrote:
Seems simple but I have not succeeded in creating any yet. I want to
 create one for each of my 3 email accounts in Mountain Lion.
 
I bring up Mail Preferences and select the Signature tab. I press
 the Add button and muddle from there. There is a Kames item but not sure
 how to type in the name. Then the text field for the signature text. If
 I type in text I cannot hit return to start a new line as I want to have
 3 lines, is that possible? If I copy text into that area, I see the word
 actions in there.
 
I may not be doing things in the right order or using the correct VO
 commands. Can use some help with this, thanks.
 
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  . . . what if it were true?
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 
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Re: Adding signatures

[The Believer]

   Ok. I have not actually checked how it will work when I compose a 
message. I will do that later.


   Start Mail, then go to Preferences. Land on the Signature tab. You 
should see All Signatures and your email accounts under that. Select 
the account you want. Stop interacting and arrow over and find the Add 
button. (I am doing this from memory because the Mac is across the 
room). Interact with Names, this is where you type a name for the sig. 
Stop interacting and arrow to Signature. Interact and add the text you 
want to use in the sig.


   If you have more than one email account, repeat the process.

   I may have to go back and remove amy failed attemtps but I think I 
have it. And I hope this helps you too. For me the key was to follow an 
orderly path.


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On 9/5/2014 9:02 PM, Jose Lomeli wrote:

How did you do it? I am having the same issue! I cannot seem to add any 
signatures! Please help me out!

Jose Lomeli
Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 5, 2014, at 8:58 PM, The Believer ancient.ali...@icloud.com wrote:

   Well after taking a break I got back to it and figured out the process and 
added 2 signatures.

   Now next question is in regards to iCloud. Before I work on that, I want to 
know if I can create a sig for each alias. Thanks.

 From The Believer. . .
. . . what if it were true?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com


On 9/5/2014 6:45 PM, The Believer wrote:
Seems simple but I have not succeeded in creating any yet. I want to
create one for each of my 3 email accounts in Mountain Lion.

I bring up Mail Preferences and select the Signature tab. I press
the Add button and muddle from there. There is a Kames item but not sure
how to type in the name. Then the text field for the signature text. If
I type in text I cannot hit return to start a new line as I want to have
3 lines, is that possible? If I copy text into that area, I see the word
actions in there.

I may not be doing things in the right order or using the correct VO
commands. Can use some help with this, thanks.

 From The Believer. . .
  . . . what if it were true?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com


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Adding signatures in mail

[denise avant]

Hello all,
I am using Mavericks. I was searching for the place to add signatures to my 
e-mail. Can anyone tell me where I should look? thanks.

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Re: Adding signatures in mail

[Matt Dierckens]

Hello.
Go to mail preferences with command Comma.
You will be automatically interacted with the toolbar.
We want to go to the Signitures tab. VO space on this.
Next you will be placed in a table. You can hit the add button to add a 
signature. Hope this helped.
Matt Dierckens
Macintosh Trainer
Blind Access Training
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 Hello all,
 I am using Mavericks. I was searching for the place to add signatures to my 
 e-mail. Can anyone tell me where I should look? thanks.
 
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Re: Adding signatures in mail

[Angus MacKinnon]

I understand how to do all of this. The one thing that escapes me is how to not 
have a Signature for Forwarded Email. So, no Signature after doing Command - 
Shift - F for a forward.

Angus MacKinnon

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