Re: software updates

[Brad Snyder]

That means you need to go to System Settings > Software Update.
It is probably an OS update, or an update to Safari.

- Brad -



On Jan 12, 2024, at 18:13, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

I. can hear there’s 1 update when I go to system settings but I can’t. find out 
what it is. I’ve tried “details” a few times but it doesn’t yield anything. 
since I have a new Mac I’ve been stumbling into Applecare.  Plus and can’t 
figure out how to get out of there. I just have to wait for it to end the 
session by itself if vo reads it, it’s too late to navigate away. this is in 
Ventura.

> On Jan 12, 2024, at 5:18 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> First of all, now that you have read the notification, dismiss it.
> Then check 2 places.
> 1.  Go to the Mac AppStore, and press CMD + NumRow 8, which will take you to 
> Updates.  This is where you can see if there are any app updates for any apps 
> you may have installed from the AppStore.
> 2.  Go to System Settings > Software Updates, and see if there are any OS or 
> system related updates pending installation.
> You can also go to the Apple menu, in the Menu Bar, where you can also find 
> out if there are any pending updates by navigating to either System Settings, 
> or AppStore in the menu.
> 
> HTH. 
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 12, 2024, at 15:45, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> I’m getting the message that updates are available and then I’m asked if I 
> want to install them now or try tonight. I’m trying to get details and find 
> out what these updates are but so far no go. I get taken to system settings 
> but no details are available. how do I find out what updates my Mac wants to 
> install?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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Re: software updates

[Lorie McCloud]

I. can hear there’s 1 update when I go to system settings but I can’t. find out 
what it is. I’ve tried “details” a few times but it doesn’t yield anything. 
since I have a new Mac I’ve been stumbling into Applecare.  Plus and can’t 
figure out how to get out of there. I just have to wait for it to end the 
session by itself if vo reads it, it’s too late to navigate away. this is in 
Ventura.

> On Jan 12, 2024, at 5:18 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> First of all, now that you have read the notification, dismiss it.
> Then check 2 places.
> 1.  Go to the Mac AppStore, and press CMD + NumRow 8, which will take you to 
> Updates.  This is where you can see if there are any app updates for any apps 
> you may have installed from the AppStore.
> 2.  Go to System Settings > Software Updates, and see if there are any OS or 
> system related updates pending installation.
> You can also go to the Apple menu, in the Menu Bar, where you can also find 
> out if there are any pending updates by navigating to either System Settings, 
> or AppStore in the menu.
> 
> HTH. 
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 12, 2024, at 15:45, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> I’m getting the message that updates are available and then I’m asked if I 
> want to install them now or try tonight. I’m trying to get details and find 
> out what these updates are but so far no go. I get taken to system settings 
> but no details are available. how do I find out what updates my Mac wants to 
> install?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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Re: software updates

[Brad Snyder]

First of all, now that you have read the notification, dismiss it.
Then check 2 places.
1.  Go to the Mac AppStore, and press CMD + NumRow 8, which will take you to 
Updates.  This is where you can see if there are any app updates for any apps 
you may have installed from the AppStore.
2.  Go to System Settings > Software Updates, and see if there are any OS or 
system related updates pending installation.
You can also go to the Apple menu, in the Menu Bar, where you can also find out 
if there are any pending updates by navigating to either System Settings, or 
AppStore in the menu.

HTH. 

- Brad -



On Jan 12, 2024, at 15:45, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

I’m getting the message that updates are available and then I’m asked if I want 
to install them now or try tonight. I’m trying to get details and find out what 
these updates are but so far no go. I get taken to system settings but no 
details are available. how do I find out what updates my Mac wants to install?

thanks.
Lorie

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software updates

[Lorie McCloud]

I’m getting the message that updates are available and then I’m asked if I want 
to install them now or try tonight. I’m trying to get details and find out what 
these updates are but so far no go. I get taken to system settings but no 
details are available. how do I find out what updates my Mac wants to install?

thanks.
Lorie

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RE: Software updates on iPhone.

[David Griffith]

I have found   that turning off automatic update in App and ITunes settings 
helps. This at least delays matters.
Despite this my phone did eventually download iOS 11 last week and wanted to 
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However I then went into manage my storage in settings. There I ffound the iOS 
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From: Simon Fogarty
Sent: 23 November 2017 21:33
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Software updates on iPhone.

I also don’t believe there is a way to turn off update notifications unless 
there is a hidden notification to do this for system features.

The only thing I’m aware of allowing this is MDM systems but I don’t think the 
average user will be using one.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Maria Reyes
Sent: Friday, 24 November 2017 6:54 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; Macvisionaries 
<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Software updates on iPhone.

Hi, 
When you get the popup hit remind me later. I don't think there is a way that 
you can turn it off totally. 

Get Outlook for iOS

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> on 
behalf of Stacey Robinson <stacey...@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 10:47:05 AM
To: Macvisionaries
Subject: Software updates on iPhone. 
 
Can anyone tell me if there’s a way to tell your iPhone SE not to alert you to 
software updates?
I’d rather check for them manually.

Peace,
Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.

stacey...@bellsouth.net

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RE: Software updates on iPhone.

[Simon Fogarty]

I also don’t believe there is a way to turn off update notifications unless 
there is a hidden notification to do this for system features.

The only thing I’m aware of allowing this is MDM systems but I don’t think the 
average user will be using one.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Maria Reyes
Sent: Friday, 24 November 2017 6:54 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; Macvisionaries 
<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Software updates on iPhone.

Hi,
When you get the popup hit remind me later. I don't think there is a way that 
you can turn it off totally.

Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> on 
behalf of Stacey Robinson 
<stacey...@bellsouth.net<mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net>>
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 10:47:05 AM
To: Macvisionaries
Subject: Software updates on iPhone.

Can anyone tell me if there’s a way to tell your iPhone SE not to alert you to 
software updates?
I’d rather check for them manually.

Peace,
Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.

stacey...@bellsouth.net<mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net>

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Re: Software updates on iPhone.

[John JD Denning]

Hi, I don’t get notifications for app updates. I have a setting under 
notifications for the App Store to only give me temporary banners. But in there 
you could choose to have no notifications at all. So you can’t look at the 
settings for the App Store you have to go into notifications and then the 
settings for the App Store in there.

I hope that’s what you’re looking for.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 23, 2017, at 12:54, Maria Reyes <the.big.apple.n...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> When you get the popup hit remind me later. I don't think there is a way that 
> you can turn it off totally.
> 
> Get Outlook for iOS
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> on 
> behalf of Stacey Robinson <stacey...@bellsouth.net>
> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 10:47:05 AM
> To: Macvisionaries
> Subject: Software updates on iPhone.
>  
> Can anyone tell me if there’s a way to tell your iPhone SE not to alert you 
> to software updates?
> I’d rather check for them manually.
> 
> Peace,
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Re: Software updates on iPhone.

[Maria Reyes]

Hi,
When you get the popup hit remind me later. I don't think there is a way that 
you can turn it off totally.

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Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 10:47:05 AM
To: Macvisionaries
Subject: Software updates on iPhone.

Can anyone tell me if there’s a way to tell your iPhone SE not to alert you to 
software updates?
I’d rather check for them manually.

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Software updates on iPhone.

[Stacey Robinson]

Can anyone tell me if there’s a way to tell your iPhone SE not to alert you to 
software updates?
I’d rather check for them manually.

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Re: Problems updating to the New Software updates

[E.T.]

Tim,
   I imagine one could boot into safe mode and try this. For me, it 
almost always occurs when I bring up the app store so Apple should not 
have any trouble replicating this.


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On 5/19/2016 8:14 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

If we could just figure out what process is grabbing VO focus, it may be
easier to get Apple to deal with it.  Whenever these sorts of loss of
focus things happen, it's usually because another process hooked on to
VO during app startup.  For example, if you have Google Drive installed
on your Mac, it will automatically sync in the background when logging
in to your Mac.  When Google Drive does its thing, focus is moved away
from the Desktop and Finder,, thus one needs to use cmd-tab to get back
to the Finder.  Sighted folks never even notice this sort of behaviour
as these are invisible layers and a simple click of the mouse on their
desired object brings focus to it.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 19, 2016, at 09:05, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se
<mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote:

Hi!
Ok, what i did to make it work was to restart voiceover.
But its not ok to have to do this every time when updating from app store.
/A

On 18 May 2016, at 23:28, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com
<mailto:kilbu...@me.com>> wrote:

Hi,

I've also found that using the Window Chooser (VO-f2-f2) in the App
Store instead of cmd-tabbing around also will bring focus back to the
App Store.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 18, 2016, at 15:26, Christopher-Mark Gilland
<clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I'm not totally sure what's going on, but what I can tell you is this:
The issue with  losing focus in the app store, then having to
command+tab away from the window, then command tab again to go back
and regain focus has been a bug for some time now.  I'm not sure why
Apple's not squashed it, seeing a lot of us have reported it.
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.
clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>
Phone: (704) 256-8010.

- Original Message -
*From:*Helga Schreiber <mailto:helga.schreibe...@gmail.com>
*To:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
*Sent:*Wednesday, May 18, 2016 5:10 PM
*Subject:*Re: Problems updating to the New Software updates

Hey Chris. This is what is occuring. When i go to the  app store,
Voiceover tels me open window, but wen I move around with VO right
 and left arrow, I can't  see anything until I  perform the command
tab,and go back to the app store window,and it shows me everything
dmd. After waiting for a few minutes, the updates buttonit is not dmd
anymore. So I press Vo space bar on updates, adn then I stop
interacting with the tool bar, so I can go to the updates  link, but
it it takes me to the back dmd button. I really don't know why is
doing that! For some reason Last night, I manage to try it for the
first time, and the updates appear, but it did  not install them. And
last night Voiceover told me that I had seven items available.   This
is not my internet  connection since I have internet connection.
Voiceover told me now, I have two updates but I can't see them! My
last update to Os10 11.4, I was able to do it,  but this new updates
for iTunes,and OS10 11.5, I'm not able to do it at all! Do you have
any idea what could be happening? I look forward in hearing from you
soon. Thanks and God bless!

Helga Schreiber

Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of
Blind Students.
Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
Phone:  (561) 706-5950
Email:helga.schreibe...@gmail.com <mailto:helga.schreibe...@gmail.com>
Skype: helga.schreiber26
4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.as
<http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx>px
INT Website: http://int4life.com/

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that
whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John
3:16
Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 9.3.1

On May 18, 2016, at 4:34 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
<clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Helga, we need more info.
You say it's not working.  O, Kayyy? What is it doing when you try
updating?
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.
clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>
Phone: (704) 256-8010.

- Original Message -
*From:*Helga Schreiber <mailto:helga.schreibe...@gmail.com>
*To:*'Adrian Leong' via MacVisionaries
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
*Sent:*Wednesday, May 18, 2016 3:56 PM
*Subject:*Problems updating to the New Software updates

H

Re: Problems updating to the New Software updates

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

If we could just figure out what process is grabbing VO focus, it may be easier 
to get Apple to deal with it.  Whenever these sorts of loss of focus things 
happen, it's usually because another process hooked on to VO during app 
startup.  For example, if you have Google Drive installed on your Mac, it will 
automatically sync in the background when logging in to your Mac.  When Google 
Drive does its thing, focus is moved away from the Desktop and Finder,, thus 
one needs to use cmd-tab to get back to the Finder.  Sighted folks never even 
notice this sort of behaviour as these are invisible layers and a simple click 
of the mouse on their desired object brings focus to it.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 19, 2016, at 09:05, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:

Hi!
Ok, what i did to make it work was to restart voiceover.
But its not ok to have to do this every time when updating from app store.
/A
> On 18 May 2016, at 23:28, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com 
> <mailto:kilbu...@me.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I've also found that using the Window Chooser (VO-f2-f2) in the App Store 
> instead of cmd-tabbing around also will bring focus back to the App Store.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 18, 2016, at 15:26, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> I'm not totally sure what's going on, but what I can tell you is this:
>  
> The issue with  losing focus in the app store, then having to command+tab 
> away from the window, then command tab again to go back and regain focus has 
> been a bug for some time now.  I'm not sure why Apple's not squashed it, 
> seeing a lot of us have reported it.
> ---
> Christopher Gilland
> JAWS Certified, 2016.
> Training Instructor.
>  
> clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>
> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Helga Schreiber <mailto:helga.schreibe...@gmail.com>
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 5:10 PM
>> Subject: Re: Problems updating to the New Software updates
>> 
>> Hey Chris. This is what is occuring. When i go to the  app store, Voiceover 
>> tels me open window, but wen I move around with VO right  and left arrow, I 
>> can't  see anything until I  perform the command tab,and go back to the app 
>> store window,and it shows me everything dmd. After waiting for a few 
>> minutes, the updates buttonit is not dmd anymore. So I press Vo space bar on 
>> updates, adn then I stop interacting with the tool bar, so I can go to the 
>> updates  link, but it it takes me to the back dmd button. I really don't 
>> know why is doing that! For some reason Last night, I manage to try it for 
>> the first time, and the updates appear, but it did  not install them. And 
>> last night Voiceover told me that I had seven items available.   This is not 
>> my internet  connection since I have internet connection. Voiceover told me 
>> now, I have two updates but I can't see them! My last update to Os10 11.4, I 
>> was able to do it,  but this new updates for iTunes,and OS10 11.5, I'm not 
>> able to do it at all! Do you have any idea what could be happening? I look 
>> forward in hearing from you soon. Thanks and God bless!
>> 
>> Helga Schreiber 
>> 
>> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
>> Students.
>> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
>> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
>> Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
>> Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com <mailto:helga.schreibe...@gmail.com> 
>> Skype: helga.schreiber26 
>> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.as 
>> <http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx>px 
>> INT Website: http://int4life.com/ <http://int4life.com/> 
>> 
>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
>> believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
>> Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 9.3.1
>> 
>> On May 18, 2016, at 4:34 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Helga, we need more info.
>>>  
>>> You say it's not working.  O, Kayyy? What is it doing when you try updating?
>>> ---
>>> Christopher Gilland
>>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>>> Training Instructor.
>>>  
>>> clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgil

Re: Problems updating to the New Software updates

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Ok, what i did to make it work was to restart voiceover.
But its not ok to have to do this every time when updating from app store.
/A
> On 18 May 2016, at 23:28, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I've also found that using the Window Chooser (VO-f2-f2) in the App Store 
> instead of cmd-tabbing around also will bring focus back to the App Store.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 18, 2016, at 15:26, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> I'm not totally sure what's going on, but what I can tell you is this:
>  
> The issue with  losing focus in the app store, then having to command+tab 
> away from the window, then command tab again to go back and regain focus has 
> been a bug for some time now.  I'm not sure why Apple's not squashed it, 
> seeing a lot of us have reported it.
> ---
> Christopher Gilland
> JAWS Certified, 2016.
> Training Instructor.
>  
> clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>
> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Helga Schreiber <mailto:helga.schreibe...@gmail.com>
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 5:10 PM
>> Subject: Re: Problems updating to the New Software updates
>> 
>> Hey Chris. This is what is occuring. When i go to the  app store, Voiceover 
>> tels me open window, but wen I move around with VO right  and left arrow, I 
>> can't  see anything until I  perform the command tab,and go back to the app 
>> store window,and it shows me everything dmd. After waiting for a few 
>> minutes, the updates buttonit is not dmd anymore. So I press Vo space bar on 
>> updates, adn then I stop interacting with the tool bar, so I can go to the 
>> updates  link, but it it takes me to the back dmd button. I really don't 
>> know why is doing that! For some reason Last night, I manage to try it for 
>> the first time, and the updates appear, but it did  not install them. And 
>> last night Voiceover told me that I had seven items available.   This is not 
>> my internet  connection since I have internet connection. Voiceover told me 
>> now, I have two updates but I can't see them! My last update to Os10 11.4, I 
>> was able to do it,  but this new updates for iTunes,and OS10 11.5, I'm not 
>> able to do it at all! Do you have any idea what could be happening? I look 
>> forward in hearing from you soon. Thanks and God bless!
>> 
>> Helga Schreiber 
>> 
>> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
>> Students.
>> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
>> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
>> Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
>> Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com <mailto:helga.schreibe...@gmail.com> 
>> Skype: helga.schreiber26 
>> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.as 
>> <http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx>px 
>> INT Website: http://int4life.com/ <http://int4life.com/> 
>> 
>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
>> believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
>> Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 9.3.1
>> 
>> On May 18, 2016, at 4:34 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Helga, we need more info.
>>>  
>>> You say it's not working.  O, Kayyy? What is it doing when you try updating?
>>> ---
>>> Christopher Gilland
>>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>>> Training Instructor.
>>>  
>>> clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>
>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>> From: Helga Schreiber <mailto:helga.schreibe...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: 'Adrian Leong' via MacVisionaries 
>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 3:56 PM
>>>> Subject: Problems updating to the New Software updates
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all! How are you all? I tried to do last night my iTunes  update,and my 
>>>> Mac update to OS10 11.5, but I'm not having so much success  with it! I 
>>>> went  to the app store many ways. I Perform VO with M to go to app store, 
>>>> or search app store in spotlight and to about my mac to access  the app 
>>>> store. But I'm not having so 

Re: Problems updating to the New Software updates

[E.T.]

   I did the update a couple days ago and still find command tab to 
work the best as a work around. I sure was hoping this had been fixed.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 5/19/2016 8:02 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
It seems worse now when i tried it after the update.
I will test your suggestion though Tim.
/A

On 18 May 2016, at 23:28, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com
<mailto:kilbu...@me.com>> wrote:

Hi,

I've also found that using the Window Chooser (VO-f2-f2) in the App
Store instead of cmd-tabbing around also will bring focus back to the
App Store.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 18, 2016, at 15:26, Christopher-Mark Gilland
<clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I'm not totally sure what's going on, but what I can tell you is this:
The issue with  losing focus in the app store, then having to
command+tab away from the window, then command tab again to go back
and regain focus has been a bug for some time now.  I'm not sure why
Apple's not squashed it, seeing a lot of us have reported it.
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.
clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>
Phone: (704) 256-8010.

- Original Message -
*From:*Helga Schreiber <mailto:helga.schreibe...@gmail.com>
*To:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
*Sent:*Wednesday, May 18, 2016 5:10 PM
*Subject:*Re: Problems updating to the New Software updates

Hey Chris. This is what is occuring. When i go to the  app store,
Voiceover tels me open window, but wen I move around with VO right
 and left arrow, I can't  see anything until I  perform the command
tab,and go back to the app store window,and it shows me everything
dmd. After waiting for a few minutes, the updates buttonit is not dmd
anymore. So I press Vo space bar on updates, adn then I stop
interacting with the tool bar, so I can go to the updates  link, but
it it takes me to the back dmd button. I really don't know why is
doing that! For some reason Last night, I manage to try it for the
first time, and the updates appear, but it did  not install them. And
last night Voiceover told me that I had seven items available.   This
is not my internet  connection since I have internet connection.
Voiceover told me now, I have two updates but I can't see them! My
last update to Os10 11.4, I was able to do it,  but this new updates
for iTunes,and OS10 11.5, I'm not able to do it at all! Do you have
any idea what could be happening? I look forward in hearing from you
soon. Thanks and God bless!

Helga Schreiber

Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of
Blind Students.
Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
Phone:  (561) 706-5950
Email:helga.schreibe...@gmail.com <mailto:helga.schreibe...@gmail.com>
Skype: helga.schreiber26
4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.as
<http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx>px
INT Website: http://int4life.com/

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that
whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John
3:16
Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 9.3.1

On May 18, 2016, at 4:34 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
<clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Helga, we need more info.
You say it's not working.  O, Kayyy? What is it doing when you try
updating?
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.
clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>
Phone: (704) 256-8010.

- Original Message -
*From:*Helga Schreiber <mailto:helga.schreibe...@gmail.com>
*To:*'Adrian Leong' via MacVisionaries
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
*Sent:*Wednesday, May 18, 2016 3:56 PM
*Subject:*Problems updating to the New Software updates

Hi all! How are you all? I tried to do last night my iTunes
 update,and my Mac update to OS10 11.5, but I'm not having so much
success  with it! I went  to the app store many ways. I Perform VO
with M to go to app store, or search app store in spotlight and to
about my mac to access  the app store. But I'm not having so much
success in performng my updates. My internet works great! I close
the apps tore four times, but still issues with it. I'm using a
Macbook Air 11 inches.  Do you guys ahve any suggestion in how can
I update without any problem? I always have issues updating! I will
try to do the updates   again! I tried to do it last night,and in
the app store it show everything DMd and so on. I look forward in
hearing from you soon. Thanks and God bless!

Helga Schreiber

Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association
of Blind Students.
Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
Indep

Re: Problems updating to the New Software updates

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
It seems worse now when i tried it after the update.
I will test your suggestion though Tim.
/A
> On 18 May 2016, at 23:28, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I've also found that using the Window Chooser (VO-f2-f2) in the App Store 
> instead of cmd-tabbing around also will bring focus back to the App Store.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 18, 2016, at 15:26, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> I'm not totally sure what's going on, but what I can tell you is this:
>  
> The issue with  losing focus in the app store, then having to command+tab 
> away from the window, then command tab again to go back and regain focus has 
> been a bug for some time now.  I'm not sure why Apple's not squashed it, 
> seeing a lot of us have reported it.
> ---
> Christopher Gilland
> JAWS Certified, 2016.
> Training Instructor.
>  
> clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>
> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Helga Schreiber <mailto:helga.schreibe...@gmail.com>
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 5:10 PM
>> Subject: Re: Problems updating to the New Software updates
>> 
>> Hey Chris. This is what is occuring. When i go to the  app store, Voiceover 
>> tels me open window, but wen I move around with VO right  and left arrow, I 
>> can't  see anything until I  perform the command tab,and go back to the app 
>> store window,and it shows me everything dmd. After waiting for a few 
>> minutes, the updates buttonit is not dmd anymore. So I press Vo space bar on 
>> updates, adn then I stop interacting with the tool bar, so I can go to the 
>> updates  link, but it it takes me to the back dmd button. I really don't 
>> know why is doing that! For some reason Last night, I manage to try it for 
>> the first time, and the updates appear, but it did  not install them. And 
>> last night Voiceover told me that I had seven items available.   This is not 
>> my internet  connection since I have internet connection. Voiceover told me 
>> now, I have two updates but I can't see them! My last update to Os10 11.4, I 
>> was able to do it,  but this new updates for iTunes,and OS10 11.5, I'm not 
>> able to do it at all! Do you have any idea what could be happening? I look 
>> forward in hearing from you soon. Thanks and God bless!
>> 
>> Helga Schreiber 
>> 
>> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
>> Students.
>> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
>> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
>> Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
>> Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com <mailto:helga.schreibe...@gmail.com> 
>> Skype: helga.schreiber26 
>> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.as 
>> <http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx>px 
>> INT Website: http://int4life.com/ <http://int4life.com/> 
>> 
>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
>> believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
>> Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 9.3.1
>> 
>> On May 18, 2016, at 4:34 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Helga, we need more info.
>>>  
>>> You say it's not working.  O, Kayyy? What is it doing when you try updating?
>>> ---
>>> Christopher Gilland
>>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>>> Training Instructor.
>>>  
>>> clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>
>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>> From: Helga Schreiber <mailto:helga.schreibe...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: 'Adrian Leong' via MacVisionaries 
>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 3:56 PM
>>>> Subject: Problems updating to the New Software updates
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all! How are you all? I tried to do last night my iTunes  update,and my 
>>>> Mac update to OS10 11.5, but I'm not having so much success  with it! I 
>>>> went  to the app store many ways. I Perform VO with M to go to app store, 
>>>> or search app store in spotlight and to about my mac to access  the app 
>>>> store. But I'm not having so much success in performng my updates.

Re: Problems updating to the New Software updates

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

In this case, I really don't believe that you'll need to go to the Apple Store 
nor call Accessibility.

1.  Open the App Store either by going under the Apple menu or through the 
About this Mac option.
2.  Once the App Store is open, if VO just dings when trying to navigate 
around, press VO-f2-f2 to bring up the Window Chooser.  Arrow down to the App 
Store choice and press return.
3.  Navigate around the window with VO-right arrow.  You should hear Toolbar, 
the Close, Minimize and Zoom buttons and either "Mac App Store, HtML Content" 
or "Updates, HTML Content".  If it announces "Mac App Store, HTML Content", 
then press cmd-5 to bring focus to the Updates pane.  Otherwise, move on to the 
next step.
4.  Interact with the HTML Content area.
5.  Navigate with VO-right, past the Software Update heading to the "Install 
All Available Software" button and press it with VO-space.
6.  Depending on what software is waiting to be installed, you may get a 
message dialog that says something about some software needing to be downloaded 
first before restart.  Press the "Download and Restart" button.
7.  Wait patiently as this may take a while to download.
8.  Once the download is complete, another dialog should appear telling you 
that your Mac is going to restart.  You can just wait and it will begin the 
restart/installation process, or you can press the "Restart" button within that 
dialog.  In either case, the process will begin.  Again, this new 
installation/restart process may take quite a while.  During this time, you may 
or may not have any response from VO.  You can press cmd-f5 if you wish, but 
depending on the state of the process, you still may not get any VO 
announcements.
9.  Important!  Do not interrupt the installation by forcably shutting down 
your Mac.  This could render your machine unusable until a total 
reinstallation.  Just be patient, and let it do its job.  It will restart when 
done and bring up the Login screen for you.  In some situations, there is a 
continuation of the set up during the startup process.  Again, just be patient. 
 Try turning on VO to see if you get feedback.  If you don't get any, wait a 
few more minutes and try turning on VO again.

That should do it.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 18, 2016, at 15:45, Helga Schreiber <helga.schreibe...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hey Chris. yeah, I have always experience all the time the problem of command 
tabbing back  to th e app store,   when I update before th e prior  update. I 
think  my plan now is to perhaps pay a visit to the apple store and show  them 
what I'm trying to do  in order to update  the software,adn maybe they can do 
something  about it. I really want to update my software and iTunes specially. 
Or should I call the apple accessibility line  now? I'm just owndering. I 
really don't want to mess something in my Mac though. Hope to ehar form you 
soon. Thansk and God bless!

Helga Schreiber 

Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
Students.
Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com <mailto:helga.schreibe...@gmail.com> 
Skype: helga.schreiber26 
4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.as 
<http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx>px 
INT Website: http://int4life.com/ <http://int4life.com/> 

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 9.3.1

On May 18, 2016, at 5:26 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com 
<mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:

> I'm not totally sure what's going on, but what I can tell you is this:
>  
> The issue with  losing focus in the app store, then having to command+tab 
> away from the window, then command tab again to go back and regain focus has 
> been a bug for some time now.  I'm not sure why Apple's not squashed it, 
> seeing a lot of us have reported it.
> ---
> Christopher Gilland
> JAWS Certified, 2016.
> Training Instructor.
>  
> clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>
> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
> - Original Message - 
> From: Helga Schreiber <mailto:helga.schreibe...@gmail.com>
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 5:10 PM
> Subject: Re: Problems updating to the New Software updates
> 
> Hey Chris. This is what is occuring. When i go to the  app store, Voiceover 
> tels me open window, but wen I move around with VO right  and left arrow, I 
> can't  see anything until I  perform the command tab,and go back to the app 
> store win

Re: Problems updating to the New Software updates

[Helga Schreiber]

Hey Chris. yeah, I have always experience all the time the problem of command 
tabbing back  to th e app store,   when I update before th e prior  update. I 
think  my plan now is to perhaps pay a visit to the apple store and show  them 
what I'm trying to do  in order to update  the software,adn maybe they can do 
something  about it. I really want to update my software and iTunes specially. 
Or should I call the apple accessibility line  now? I'm just owndering. I 
really don't want to mess something in my Mac though. Hope to ehar form you 
soon. Thansk and God bless!

Helga Schreiber 

Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
Students.
Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com 
Skype: helga.schreiber26 
4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx 
INT Website: http://int4life.com/ 

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 9.3.1

> On May 18, 2016, at 5:26 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I'm not totally sure what's going on, but what I can tell you is this:
>  
> The issue with  losing focus in the app store, then having to command+tab 
> away from the window, then command tab again to go back and regain focus has 
> been a bug for some time now.  I'm not sure why Apple's not squashed it, 
> seeing a lot of us have reported it.
> ---
> Christopher Gilland
> JAWS Certified, 2016.
> Training Instructor.
>  
> clgillan...@gmail.com
> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
> - Original Message -
> From: Helga Schreiber
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 5:10 PM
> Subject: Re: Problems updating to the New Software updates
> 
> Hey Chris. This is what is occuring. When i go to the  app store, Voiceover 
> tels me open window, but wen I move around with VO right  and left arrow, I 
> can't  see anything until I  perform the command tab,and go back to the app 
> store window,and it shows me everything dmd. After waiting for a few minutes, 
> the updates buttonit is not dmd anymore. So I press Vo space bar on updates, 
> adn then I stop interacting with the tool bar, so I can go to the updates  
> link, but it it takes me to the back dmd button. I really don't know why is 
> doing that! For some reason Last night, I manage to try it for the first 
> time, and the updates appear, but it did  not install them. And last night 
> Voiceover told me that I had seven items available.   This is not my internet 
>  connection since I have internet connection. Voiceover told me now, I have 
> two updates but I can't see them! My last update to Os10 11.4, I was able to 
> do it,  but this new updates for iTunes,and OS10 11.5, I'm not able to do it 
> at all! Do you have any idea what could be happening? I look forward in 
> hearing from you soon. Thanks and God bless!
> 
> Helga Schreiber 
> 
> Member of National Federation of the Blindand Florida Association of 
> Blind Students.
> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company4Life Research.
> Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
> Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com 
> Skype: helga.schreiber26 
> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx 
> INT Website: http://int4life.com/ 
> 
> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
> believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
> Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 9.3.1
> 
>> On May 18, 2016, at 4:34 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Helga, we need more info.
>>  
>> You say it's not working.  O, Kayyy? What is it doing when you try updating?
>> ---
>> Christopher Gilland
>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>> Training Instructor.
>>  
>> clgillan...@gmail.com
>> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Helga Schreiber
>> To: 'Adrian Leong' via MacVisionaries
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 3:56 PM
>> Subject: Problems updating to the New Software updates
>> 
>> Hi all! How are you all? I tried to do last night my iTunes  update,and my 
>> Mac update to OS10 11.5, but I'm not having so much success  with it! I went 
>>  to the app store many ways. I Perform VO with M to go to app store, or 
>> search app store in spotlight and to about my mac to access  the app store. 
>> But I'm not having so much success in performng my updates. My internet 
>

Re: Problems updating to the New Software updates

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

I've also found that using the Window Chooser (VO-f2-f2) in the App Store 
instead of cmd-tabbing around also will bring focus back to the App Store.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 18, 2016, at 15:26, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

I'm not totally sure what's going on, but what I can tell you is this:
 
The issue with  losing focus in the app store, then having to command+tab away 
from the window, then command tab again to go back and regain focus has been a 
bug for some time now.  I'm not sure why Apple's not squashed it, seeing a lot 
of us have reported it.
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.
 
clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
> - Original Message - 
> From: Helga Schreiber <mailto:helga.schreibe...@gmail.com>
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 5:10 PM
> Subject: Re: Problems updating to the New Software updates
> 
> Hey Chris. This is what is occuring. When i go to the  app store, Voiceover 
> tels me open window, but wen I move around with VO right  and left arrow, I 
> can't  see anything until I  perform the command tab,and go back to the app 
> store window,and it shows me everything dmd. After waiting for a few minutes, 
> the updates buttonit is not dmd anymore. So I press Vo space bar on updates, 
> adn then I stop interacting with the tool bar, so I can go to the updates  
> link, but it it takes me to the back dmd button. I really don't know why is 
> doing that! For some reason Last night, I manage to try it for the first 
> time, and the updates appear, but it did  not install them. And last night 
> Voiceover told me that I had seven items available.   This is not my internet 
>  connection since I have internet connection. Voiceover told me now, I have 
> two updates but I can't see them! My last update to Os10 11.4, I was able to 
> do it,  but this new updates for iTunes,and OS10 11.5, I'm not able to do it 
> at all! Do you have any idea what could be happening? I look forward in 
> hearing from you soon. Thanks and God bless!
> 
> Helga Schreiber 
> 
> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
> Students.
> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
> Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
> Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com <mailto:helga.schreibe...@gmail.com> 
> Skype: helga.schreiber26 
> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.as 
> <http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx>px 
> INT Website: http://int4life.com/ <http://int4life.com/> 
> 
> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
> believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
> Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 9.3.1
> 
> On May 18, 2016, at 4:34 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Helga, we need more info.
>>  
>> You say it's not working.  O, Kayyy? What is it doing when you try updating?
>> ---
>> Christopher Gilland
>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>> Training Instructor.
>>  
>> clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>
>> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: Helga Schreiber <mailto:helga.schreibe...@gmail.com>
>>> To: 'Adrian Leong' via MacVisionaries 
>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 3:56 PM
>>> Subject: Problems updating to the New Software updates
>>> 
>>> Hi all! How are you all? I tried to do last night my iTunes  update,and my 
>>> Mac update to OS10 11.5, but I'm not having so much success  with it! I 
>>> went  to the app store many ways. I Perform VO with M to go to app store, 
>>> or search app store in spotlight and to about my mac to access  the app 
>>> store. But I'm not having so much success in performng my updates. My 
>>> internet works great! I close the apps tore four times, but still issues 
>>> with it. I'm using a Macbook Air 11 inches.  Do you guys ahve any 
>>> suggestion in how can I update without any problem? I always have issues 
>>> updating! I will try to do the updates   again! I tried to do it last 
>>> night,and in the app store it show everything DMd and so on. I look forward 
>>> in hearing from you soon. Thanks and God bless! 
>>> 
>>> Helga Schreiber  
>>> 
>>> Member of National Federation of the

Re: Problems updating to the New Software updates

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

I'm not totally sure what's going on, but what I can tell you is this:

The issue with  losing focus in the app store, then having to command+tab away 
from the window, then command tab again to go back and regain focus has been a 
bug for some time now.  I'm not sure why Apple's not squashed it, seeing a lot 
of us have reported it.
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

clgillan...@gmail.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Helga Schreiber 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 5:10 PM
  Subject: Re: Problems updating to the New Software updates


  Hey Chris. This is what is occuring. When i go to the  app store, Voiceover 
tels me open window, but wen I move around with VO right  and left arrow, I 
can't  see anything until I  perform the command tab,and go back to the app 
store window,and it shows me everything dmd. After waiting for a few minutes, 
the updates buttonit is not dmd anymore. So I press Vo space bar on updates, 
adn then I stop interacting with the tool bar, so I can go to the updates  
link, but it it takes me to the back dmd button. I really don't know why is 
doing that! For some reason Last night, I manage to try it for the first time, 
and the updates appear, but it did  not install them. And last night Voiceover 
told me that I had seven items available.   This is not my internet  connection 
since I have internet connection. Voiceover told me now, I have two updates but 
I can't see them! My last update to Os10 11.4, I was able to do it,  but this 
new updates for iTunes,and OS10 11.5, I'm not able to do it at all! Do you have 
any idea what could be happening? I look forward in hearing from you soon. 
Thanks and God bless!

  Helga Schreiber 


  Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
Students.
  Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
  Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
  Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
  Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com 
  Skype: helga.schreiber26 
  4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx 
  INT Website: http://int4life.com/ 


  "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
  Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 9.3.1

  On May 18, 2016, at 4:34 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
wrote:


Helga, we need more info.

You say it's not working.  O, Kayyy? What is it doing when you try updating?
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

clgillan...@gmail.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Helga Schreiber 
  To: 'Adrian Leong' via MacVisionaries 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 3:56 PM
  Subject: Problems updating to the New Software updates


  Hi all! How are you all? I tried to do last night my iTunes  update,and 
my Mac update to OS10 11.5, but I'm not having so much success  with it! I went 
 to the app store many ways. I Perform VO with M to go to app store, or search 
app store in spotlight and to about my mac to access  the app store. But I'm 
not having so much success in performng my updates. My internet works great! I 
close the apps tore four times, but still issues with it. I'm using a Macbook 
Air 11 inches.  Do you guys ahve any suggestion in how can I update without any 
problem? I always have issues updating! I will try to do the updates   again! I 
tried to do it last night,and in the app store it show everything DMd and so 
on. I look forward in hearing from you soon. Thanks and God bless! 

  Helga Schreiber  


  Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of 
Blind Students.
  Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
  Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
  Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
  Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com 
  Skype: helga.schreiber26 
  4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx 
  INT Website: http://int4life.com/ 


  "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that 
whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
  Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 9.3.1

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Re: Problems updating to the New Software updates

[Helga Schreiber]

Hey Chris. This is what is occuring. When i go to the  app store, Voiceover 
tels me open window, but wen I move around with VO right  and left arrow, I 
can't  see anything until I  perform the command tab,and go back to the app 
store window,and it shows me everything dmd. After waiting for a few minutes, 
the updates buttonit is not dmd anymore. So I press Vo space bar on updates, 
adn then I stop interacting with the tool bar, so I can go to the updates  
link, but it it takes me to the back dmd button. I really don't know why is 
doing that! For some reason Last night, I manage to try it for the first time, 
and the updates appear, but it did  not install them. And last night Voiceover 
told me that I had seven items available.   This is not my internet  connection 
since I have internet connection. Voiceover told me now, I have two updates but 
I can't see them! My last update to Os10 11.4, I was able to do it,  but this 
new updates for iTunes,and OS10 11.5, I'm not able to do it at all! Do you have 
any idea what could be happening? I look forward in hearing from you soon. 
Thanks and God bless!

Helga Schreiber 

Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
Students.
Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com 
Skype: helga.schreiber26 
4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx 
INT Website: http://int4life.com/ 

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 9.3.1

> On May 18, 2016, at 4:34 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Helga, we need more info.
>  
> You say it's not working.  O, Kayyy? What is it doing when you try updating?
> ---
> Christopher Gilland
> JAWS Certified, 2016.
> Training Instructor.
>  
> clgillan...@gmail.com
> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
> - Original Message -
> From: Helga Schreiber
> To: 'Adrian Leong' via MacVisionaries
> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 3:56 PM
> Subject: Problems updating to the New Software updates
> 
> Hi all! How are you all? I tried to do last night my iTunes  update,and my 
> Mac update to OS10 11.5, but I'm not having so much success  with it! I went  
> to the app store many ways. I Perform VO with M to go to app store, or search 
> app store in spotlight and to about my mac to access  the app store. But I'm 
> not having so much success in performng my updates. My internet works great! 
> I close the apps tore four times, but still issues with it. I'm using a 
> Macbook Air 11 inches.  Do you guys ahve any suggestion in how can I update 
> without any problem? I always have issues updating! I will try to do the 
> updates   again! I tried to do it last night,and in the app store it show 
> everything DMd and so on. I look forward in hearing from you soon. Thanks and 
> God bless! 
> 
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Re: Problems updating to the New Software updates

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Helga, we need more info.

You say it's not working.  O, Kayyy? What is it doing when you try updating?
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Helga Schreiber 
  To: 'Adrian Leong' via MacVisionaries 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 3:56 PM
  Subject: Problems updating to the New Software updates


  Hi all! How are you all? I tried to do last night my iTunes  update,and my 
Mac update to OS10 11.5, but I'm not having so much success  with it! I went  
to the app store many ways. I Perform VO with M to go to app store, or search 
app store in spotlight and to about my mac to access  the app store. But I'm 
not having so much success in performng my updates. My internet works great! I 
close the apps tore four times, but still issues with it. I'm using a Macbook 
Air 11 inches.  Do you guys ahve any suggestion in how can I update without any 
problem? I always have issues updating! I will try to do the updates   again! I 
tried to do it last night,and in the app store it show everything DMd and so 
on. I look forward in hearing from you soon. Thanks and God bless! 

  Helga Schreiber 


  Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
Students.
  Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
  Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
  Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
  Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com 
  Skype: helga.schreiber26 
  4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx 
  INT Website: http://int4life.com/ 


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Re: Problems updating to the New Software updates

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

After pressing the "Update" button, you may get a message about some things 
needing to download first.  If that dialog appears, press the "Download and 
Restart" button.  If that dialog does not appear, then just be patient.  It may 
take 5 to 10 minutes for the download to complete.  Just leave the App Store 
open and do whatever.  Check back in 10 minutes or so, or when your Mac says 
something like "AppStore Needs Attention".  If nothing happens after 10 or 15 
minutes, then let us know.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 18, 2016, at 14:00, E.T.  wrote:

  After you press the update button, what happens? Did you allow plenty of time 
for the process to complete?

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On 5/18/2016 12:56 PM, Helga Schreiber wrote:
> Hi all! How are you all? I tried to do last night my iTunes  update,and
> my Mac update to OS10 11.5, but I'm not having so much success  with it!
> I went  to the app store many ways. I Perform VO with M to go to app
> store, or search app store in spotlight and to about my mac to access
>  the app store. But I'm not having so much success in performng my
> updates. My internet works great! I close the apps tore four times, but
> still issues with it. I'm using a Macbook Air 11 inches.  Do you guys
> ahve any suggestion in how can I update without any problem? I always
> have issues updating! I will try to do the updates   again! I tried to
> do it last night,and in the app store it show everything DMd and so on.
> I look forward in hearing from you soon. Thanks and God bless!
> 
> Helga Schreiber
> 
> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of
> Blind Students.
> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
> Phone:  (561) 706-5950
> Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com 
> Skype: helga.schreiber26
> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.as
> px
> INT Website: http://int4life.com/
> 
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> whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16
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Re: Problems updating to the New Software updates

[E.T.]

   After you press the update button, what happens? Did you allow 
plenty of time for the process to complete?


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On 5/18/2016 12:56 PM, Helga Schreiber wrote:

Hi all! How are you all? I tried to do last night my iTunes  update,and
my Mac update to OS10 11.5, but I'm not having so much success  with it!
I went  to the app store many ways. I Perform VO with M to go to app
store, or search app store in spotlight and to about my mac to access
  the app store. But I'm not having so much success in performng my
updates. My internet works great! I close the apps tore four times, but
still issues with it. I'm using a Macbook Air 11 inches.  Do you guys
ahve any suggestion in how can I update without any problem? I always
have issues updating! I will try to do the updates   again! I tried to
do it last night,and in the app store it show everything DMd and so on.
I look forward in hearing from you soon. Thanks and God bless!

Helga Schreiber

Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of
Blind Students.
Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
Phone:  (561) 706-5950
Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com 
Skype: helga.schreiber26
4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.as
px
INT Website: http://int4life.com/

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Problems updating to the New Software updates

[Helga Schreiber]

Hi all! How are you all? I tried to do last night my iTunes  update,and my Mac 
update to OS10 11.5, but I'm not having so much success  with it! I went  to 
the app store many ways. I Perform VO with M to go to app store, or search app 
store in spotlight and to about my mac to access  the app store. But I'm not 
having so much success in performng my updates. My internet works great! I 
close the apps tore four times, but still issues with it. I'm using a Macbook 
Air 11 inches.  Do you guys ahve any suggestion in how can I update without any 
problem? I always have issues updating! I will try to do the updates   again! I 
tried to do it last night,and in the app store it show everything DMd and so 
on. I look forward in hearing from you soon. Thanks and God bless! 

Helga Schreiber 

Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
Students.
Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com 
Skype: helga.schreiber26 
4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx 
INT Website: http://int4life.com/ 

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