Re: Skype Update?

[Michael Wiktowy]

On 5/8/07, James Knott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Wayne Fiori wrote:
> > Skype is a little heavy for the N800. Besides, it's only taken Skype
> > two-three years to release an upgrade for Linux from version 1.3 to
> > 1.4. While the Windows world is using v 3.1.
> >
> > Why is Google Talk not sufficient?
> >
>
> What I'd like is something that can talk to standard SIP/RTP servers,
> like we have at work.

You should be  able to use Gizmo Project for that. It has a spot for
your own SIP server details. I have been quite happy with Gizmo's
performance on the tablets.

/Mike
___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: Aw: Re: Aw: Re: Poor GPS Navicore software

[Johan Helsingius]

Mathias,

> thanks for that info. That's new for me and my next gadget should be the
> TomTom910 (and play a little bit with opentom.org )

Just be aware that to the great disappointment of the TomTom
3rd party community, TomTom has dropped support for the SDK.
So yes, it runs Linux, but unless you go the opentom route
(and don't get any navigation capabilities!), it's just
another closed box... :(

Julf

___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: Skype Update?

[Acadia Secure Networks]

Neil,

we used to call that a "developer first half". On the other hand in 
marketing's lexicon, the term, "first half", always meant the first day 
of the first month of the half.


Best Regards,

 

John Holmblad

 

Acadia Secure Networks




* *

*would** you like to know where is Darren on his thru-hike?
you can find out at:www.whereisdarren.com***

 

* ***




Neil MacLeod wrote:
> George Farris wrote:
>   
>> On Tue, 2007-08-05 at 20:05 +0100, Alan Williamson wrote:
>> 
>>> As i load up my bag one thing i am missing is skype.  Cheap calls back 
>>> to the UK will probably force me to take my laptop afterall.
>>>
>>> Is there any update to the progress of this?
>>>   
>> Skype is proprietary, try Gizmo or Google Talk.
>>
>>
>> 
> >From the Nokia Skype press release[1]:
>
> "The first implementation on the Nokia N800 is expected to be made available 
> for download by the end of first half of 2007."
>
> So my guess is that Skype will be released along with a new firmware on 
> Friday, 29 June 2007.
>
> 1. http://www.nokia.com/A4136001?newsid=1096860
>
> ___
> maemo-users mailing list
> maemo-users@maemo.org
> https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
>
>   

___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: Skype Update?

[Acadia Secure Networks]

Mike,

I have tested the Skype client for Pocket PC (v 2.2.0.20) on the 
UTStarcom XV6700 running Windows Mobile 5.0 and although it takes a 
while to initialize, it seems to handle calls ok, better using 802.11 
than EVDO but even EVDO works.

Best Regards,

 

John Holmblad

 

Acadia Secure Networks

* *

*would** you like to know where is Darren on his thru-hike?
you can find out at:www.whereisdarren.com***

 


 



Mike Klein wrote:
> Skype is too heavy for HTC Hermes (Cingular 8525) also.
>
> I can do A2DP bluetooth with cellular voice calls but not VOIP 
> callsget choppy/static.
>
> Do they need VOIP support in BT profiles?
>
>
> mike
>
> Alan Williamson wrote:
>> Skype was scheduled for the N800 by Nokia.
>>
>> Google Talk -- well, it has no where near the number of users that Skype 
>> has, and besides, why Pepsi instead of Coca-Cola?  All about choice.
>>
>> in all fairness GoogleTalk is no where near as slick and as good as 
>> Skype, IMHO.  I have tried it, and had to leave it.  Not everything 
>> Google touches is great!
>>
>>
>> Wayne Fiori wrote:
>>   
>>> Skype is a little heavy for the N800. Besides, it's only taken Skype
>>> two-three years to release an upgrade for Linux from version 1.3 to
>>> 1.4. While the Windows world is using v 3.1.
>>>
>>> Why is Google Talk not sufficient?-- 
>>> 
>>
>>
>> Alan Williamson
>>   "a wiki -and- a blog" @ http://www.Blog-City.com/
>>
>>   b: http://alan.blog-city.com/
>> ___
>> maemo-users mailing list
>> maemo-users@maemo.org
>> https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
>>   
> 
>
> ___
> maemo-users mailing list
> maemo-users@maemo.org
> https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
>   

___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: Reading the manual (was RE: Instant on Loading)

[Willie McKemie]

On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 02:51:41PM -0400, Jonathan Greene wrote:
> I found the manual in my own exploration of the device and was
> surprised it was not more actively promoted anywhere since the box
> only included a quickstart guide and no printed material of detail.  I
> missed it was there when I had the 770...
> 
> http://www.maemoapps.com/2007/03/12/the-basics-the-user-guide/

I didn't know the manual was on the 800 either.  Guess I'll have to 
poke around and look for it.

I remember noticing how sparse the printed documentation was when I 
opened up the 800.  And I didn't notice any mention of soft docs.

-- 
Willie, ONWARD!  Through the fog!
http://counter.li.org Linux registered user #228836 since 1995
Debian3.1/GNU/Linux system uptime  415 days 23 hours 54 minutes
___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

RE: Instant on Loading

[randall.arnold]

Now I see why it's so hard to engage my Finnish guests in small talk!
They are very patient with my madness, though (Hi Antti, if you're on
this list).  ; )

Randall (Randy) Arnold
Quality Feedback Analyst
Nokia-CMO/Dallas

 

>-Original Message-
>From: Kalle Valo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 5:02 PM
>To: ext Mathias Uebelacker
>Cc: Arnold Randall (Nokia-CMO/Dallas); maemo-users@maemo.org
>Subject: Re: Instant on Loading
>
>"ext Mathias Uebelacker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> well and another useful thing is an ear protection so that you can 
>> work without any disturbs from the other passengers and 
>there questions like ...
>> oh what a nice little computer or whats that or please describe all 
>> the functions or can i see the video function please.
>
>Move to Finland. Here people don't talk to strangers in a bus 
>or a train, everyone just sits dead quiet and try to even 
>avoid eye contact ;)
>
>Well, cell phones are an exception. It's okay to talk really 
>loud to your phone and discuss about your secret issues etc.
>
>Okay, I'll admit that some people do talk to strangers in a 
>bus. But he will be immediately categorised as being drunk :)
>
>--
>Kalle Valo
>
>
___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: Instant on Loading

[Kalle Valo]

"ext Mathias Uebelacker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> well and another useful thing is an ear protection so that you can work
> without any disturbs from the other passengers and there questions like ...
> oh what a nice little computer or whats that or please describe all the
> functions or can i see the video function please.

Move to Finland. Here people don't talk to strangers in a bus or a
train, everyone just sits dead quiet and try to even avoid eye 
contact ;)

Well, cell phones are an exception. It's okay to talk really loud to
your phone and discuss about your secret issues etc.

Okay, I'll admit that some people do talk to strangers in a bus. But
he will be immediately categorised as being drunk :)

-- 
Kalle Valo

___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: Accuracy of the power meter?

[Ralph Angenendt]

Frantisek Dufka wrote:
> How often omweather updates data? Did you try with omweather disabled? 

It is disabled, as I just found out - I needed the Yellow Notes home
applet and had no place for omweather anymore :)

> Not sure what is default value now but you may try to change PSM timeout
> http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/maemo/users/18057#18057
> I am now at 100ms and did not notice any disadvantages (Asus wl500gx 
> with Oleg's firmware http://oleg.wl500g.info/). 

Thanks, will try that. Completely forgot about it.

Cheers,

Ralph


pgpbDAB78fXDA.pgp
Description: PGP signature
___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: Reading the manual (was RE: Instant on Loading)

[Michael Wiktowy]

On 5/8/07, Theodore Tso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yup, my n800 didn't come with a printed manual either, and I found the
> .PDF manual to be horribly optimized for screen reading.  The fonts
> are too small such that you can't really read it until you blow it up,
> and then you have to cosntantly panning the viewer around to read the
> entire screen.
>
> It would have been really nice if the manual came in HTML format, so
> that the browser could rejustify the text based on the zoom level.
> Basically, I found the .PDF to be pretty much unusable unless I copied
> it over to my laptop and read it on a 1600x1200 display, or if printed
> it out and then read it in dead-tree format.

Agreed! Even if they kept it a PDF and got rid of the *huge* margins,
it would be vastly easier to use.

However, the current manual is made much less painful to read by using
evince since you can at least change pages while zoomed in ...
something made exceedingly annoying by the built in pdf viewer.

With the latest release of evince (
http://maemo.org/downloads/product/evince ... kindly polished and
packaged up by etrunko http://etrunko.blogspot.com/ ) it has nearly
reached the point where it is a superior drop in replacement for the
built-in PDF viewer (maybe even the image viewer also as it handles
images too) and Nokia should consider using this in their future
firmware, IMHO.

/Mike
___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: Converting Documents

[Scott Carr]

Amichai Rotman wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I am about to start a new job that involves a lot of tech documents 
> reading. I want to be able to read all the documents on my N770.
> Problem: Documents are in different formants (PDF, Doc and some PPS). 
> Reading them as is is not an option - for various reasons, especially 
> because its too small to read.
>
> I found the fb2 format to be the best option.
>
> What would be the easier, faster way to convert the docs (if possible 
> at all) ?
[snip]

I originally bought a PDA to keep up with tech documentation.  Here is 
what I do:

I usually use OpenOffice.org to convert Word, etc to HTML format, and 
then I use jPluck to convert to Plucker format.  Plucker format is read 
by fbReader, easily. 

Keep in mind, it may seem as I have a vested interest in OOo, see my 
sig, but as long as you can convert the Doc to HTML, then you should be 
in business using jPluck.

Also, doing this means the links are still kept with the document, if 
they are there.

-- 
Scott Carr
OpenOffice.org
Documentation Co-Lead
http://documentation.openoffice.org

___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: Instant on Loading

[Scott Carr]

Michael Wiktowy wrote:
> On 5/8/07, Igor Stoppa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> On Sun, 2007-05-06 at 09:49 -0400, ext das manga wrote:
>> 
>>> Is there a way to enable instant on loading,
>>>
>>> i use the device to read while commuting, it gets old having to clik
>>> though to get the pdf or txt file i was reading.
>>>
>>> is there a way to save a state, then when the system boots,   load the
>>> saved state?
>>>   
>> Just let it on and see how long it takes to run out of battery.
>>
>> 
>>> i like the nokia 800 but what asshat designed a portable device
>>> without instant on?   some brain dead zombie i guess.
>>>   
>> b :-D
>> 
>
> I think it is more like ... "gggnnn ... mre brins!" ;]
>
> I think the power saving in the tablets is brilliant. I liked the
> screen cover of the 770 but if you don't want to wait for the screen
> to turn of on the N800, hit the power button followed by the middle of
> the direction pad to instant off and lock the keys and screen. Do the
> exact same thing to re-enable things. Simple and fast.
>   
I only have a 770, so couldn't comment on the 800.  So, is there an 
upgrade path.  ;-)

Really good info on the 800, when I do finally go that direction.

-- 
Scott Carr
OpenOffice.org
Documentation Co-Lead
http://documentation.openoffice.org

___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: Instant on Loading

[Michael Wiktowy]

On 5/8/07, Alan Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Are they are any other combinations of key presses that result in a very
> handy time saving function?

I use that little button in the middle in the direction pad all the
time. It also selects the currently highlighted Wifi AP in the list
that pops up. I can't think of anything specific but those little
buttons along the side are pretty useful in a lot of apps and are
mostly ignored I suspect.

I only wish that that enter-button functionality would extend to the
gmail password pop-ups in Opera ... then I could do more tap/poke-free
browsing of my email. I suppose I could file an RFE in bugzilla but
that stinks of something low gain + high trouble = low priority since
it would require Nokia asking/paying third parties to add
functionality.

/Mike
___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: Aw: Re: Aw: Re: Poor GPS Navicore software

[Mathias Uebelacker]

thanks for that info. That's new for me and my next gadget should be the
TomTom910 (and play a little bit with opentom.org)

Mathias

2007/5/8, Johan Helsingius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Mathias Uebelacker wrote:
> I amanda using some versions off TomTom on an XDA, an IPAQ, Nokia 6610
(S60) and on my Nokia 9510i (S80) and all my devices uing north up but my
versions are two years old and i never made an upgrade.

I have no experience of TomTom on PDA's/phones, but the
stand-alone TomToms definitely lack a north-up mode.

Julf


___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: Reading the manual (was RE: Instant on Loading)

[Theodore Tso]

On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 02:51:41PM -0400, Jonathan Greene wrote:
> I found the manual in my own exploration of the device and was
> surprised it was not more actively promoted anywhere since the box
> only included a quickstart guide and no printed material of detail.  I
> missed it was there when I had the 770...

Yup, my n800 didn't come with a printed manual either, and I found the
.PDF manual to be horribly optimized for screen reading.  The fonts
are too small such that you can't really read it until you blow it up,
and then you have to cosntantly panning the viewer around to read the
entire screen.  

It would have been really nice if the manual came in HTML format, so
that the browser could rejustify the text based on the zoom level.
Basically, I found the .PDF to be pretty much unusable unless I copied
it over to my laptop and read it on a 1600x1200 display, or if printed
it out and then read it in dead-tree format.

- Ted
___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: Aw: Re: Aw: Re: Poor GPS Navicore software

[Johan Helsingius]

Mathias Uebelacker wrote:
> I amanda using some versions off TomTom on an XDA, an IPAQ, Nokia 6610 (S60) 
> and on my Nokia 9510i (S80) and all my devices uing north up but my versions 
> are two years old and i never made an upgrade.

I have no experience of TomTom on PDA's/phones, but the
stand-alone TomToms definitely lack a north-up mode.

Julf

___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: Skype Update?

[Neil MacLeod]

George Farris wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-08-05 at 20:05 +0100, Alan Williamson wrote:
>> As i load up my bag one thing i am missing is skype.  Cheap calls back 
>> to the UK will probably force me to take my laptop afterall.
>>
>> Is there any update to the progress of this?
> 
> Skype is proprietary, try Gizmo or Google Talk.
> 
> 
>From the Nokia Skype press release[1]:

"The first implementation on the Nokia N800 is expected to be made available 
for download by the end of first half of 2007."

So my guess is that Skype will be released along with a new firmware on Friday, 
29 June 2007.

1. http://www.nokia.com/A4136001?newsid=1096860

___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: Skype Update?

[George Farris]

On Tue, 2007-08-05 at 20:05 +0100, Alan Williamson wrote:
> As i load up my bag one thing i am missing is skype.  Cheap calls back 
> to the UK will probably force me to take my laptop afterall.
> 
> Is there any update to the progress of this?

Skype is proprietary, try Gizmo or Google Talk.


___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: Skype Update?

[James Knott]

Wayne Fiori wrote:
> Skype is a little heavy for the N800. Besides, it's only taken Skype
> two-three years to release an upgrade for Linux from version 1.3 to
> 1.4. While the Windows world is using v 3.1.
>
> Why is Google Talk not sufficient?
>   

What I'd like is something that can talk to standard SIP/RTP servers, 
like we have at work.


-- 
Use OpenOffice.org 
___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: Skype Update?

[Mike Klein]

Skype is too heavy for HTC Hermes (Cingular 8525) also.

I can do A2DP bluetooth with cellular voice calls but not VOIP
callsget choppy/static.

Do they need VOIP support in BT profiles?


mike

Alan Williamson wrote:
> Skype was scheduled for the N800 by Nokia.
>
> Google Talk -- well, it has no where near the number of users that Skype 
> has, and besides, why Pepsi instead of Coca-Cola?  All about choice.
>
> in all fairness GoogleTalk is no where near as slick and as good as 
> Skype, IMHO.  I have tried it, and had to leave it.  Not everything 
> Google touches is great!
>
>
> Wayne Fiori wrote:
>   
>> Skype is a little heavy for the N800. Besides, it's only taken Skype
>> two-three years to release an upgrade for Linux from version 1.3 to
>> 1.4. While the Windows world is using v 3.1.
>>
>> Why is Google Talk not sufficient?-- 
>> 
>
>
> Alan Williamson
>   "a wiki -and- a blog" @ http://www.Blog-City.com/
>
>   b: http://alan.blog-city.com/
> ___
> maemo-users mailing list
> maemo-users@maemo.org
> https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
>   
___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: Skype Update?

[Mike Lococo]

> Skype is a little heavy for the N800. Besides, it's only taken Skype
> two-three years to release an upgrade for Linux from version 1.3 to
> 1.4. While the Windows world is using v 3.1.

I'm waiting for Skype to support video-calls on the N800 so we finally 
have a video-calling solution that works with anything besides another 
N800 (IMO the current state of the windows client should not be 
described as "working", and there's no mac/linux setup at all).

Thanks,
Mike
___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

RE: Instant on Loading

[randall.arnold]

I sat down for supper one night in CiCi's pizza (a chain in the US) and
wondered if they had wifi.  They sure did, and protected by a 5-charcter
password only.  On a lark, I entered "cicis"-- got me right in.  But,
yeah, I drive around sometimes with my N800 beside me periodically
looking for access points, and at any given time I can easily find a
half-dozen in range, unlocked.

Randall (Randy) Arnold
Quality Feedback Analyst
Nokia-CMO/Dallas


 

>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ext Alan Williamson
>Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 2:05 PM
>To: maemo-users
>Subject: Re: Instant on Loading
>
>Speaking of the field, the instant on has been interesting.  I 
>have found myself sitting idly in the car waiting for my wife 
>as she pops into the shops for various stuff.
>
>fire up the N800, and jump on to an available wireless 
>connection that some poor soul has left completely wide open 
>to let the N800 get its RSS fix!  I can be in and out in the 
>under the minute!!!
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> You reminded me of something.  Verizon guys came over last week to 
>> hook up a new fiber optic based internet/phone/TV system to my house 
>> (very nice, very fast).  When they were done the PC couldn't 
>> immediately connect to the new router and when I was unable to reset 
>> the IP I realized I needed to reboot it, which would take a 
>few minutes.
>> However, I didn't really need the PC to test it, did I?  Not when I 
>> could fire up the N800 in far less time and connect almost instantly!
>> Sure enough, I could get on the internet right away.  The Verizon 
>> techs were stunned.  As they left all they could talk about was 
>> getting a hold of N800s and using them in the field.  Now, if only 
>> Nokia would get behind such corporate uses (hint hint, fellow 
>> employees...)
>___
>maemo-users mailing list
>maemo-users@maemo.org
>https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
>
___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: Skype Update?

[Jonathan Greene]

or Gizmo ... though Gtalk has been awesome in my book.  Skype is on
the books though ... thought sometime around now actually.

On 5/8/07, Wayne Fiori <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Skype is a little heavy for the N800. Besides, it's only taken Skype
> two-three years to release an upgrade for Linux from version 1.3 to
> 1.4. While the Windows world is using v 3.1.
>
> Why is Google Talk not sufficient?
> --
> =W
>
>
> On 5/8/07, Alan Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > As i load up my bag one thing i am missing is skype.  Cheap calls back
> > to the UK will probably force me to take my laptop afterall.
> >
> > Is there any update to the progress of this?
> > --
> > Alan Williamson
> >   "a wiki -and- a blog" @ http://www.Blog-City.com/
> >
> >   b: http://alan.blog-city.com/
> > ___
> > maemo-users mailing list
> > maemo-users@maemo.org
> > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
> >
> ___
> maemo-users mailing list
> maemo-users@maemo.org
> https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
>


-- 
Jonathan Greene
+1.914.750.8740
AIM / iChat - atmasphere
gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gizmo - JonathanGreene
blogs - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp  / http://www.maemoapps.com
___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: Skype Update?

[Alan Williamson]

Skype was scheduled for the N800 by Nokia.

Google Talk -- well, it has no where near the number of users that Skype 
has, and besides, why Pepsi instead of Coca-Cola?  All about choice.

in all fairness GoogleTalk is no where near as slick and as good as 
Skype, IMHO.  I have tried it, and had to leave it.  Not everything 
Google touches is great!


Wayne Fiori wrote:
> Skype is a little heavy for the N800. Besides, it's only taken Skype
> two-three years to release an upgrade for Linux from version 1.3 to
> 1.4. While the Windows world is using v 3.1.
> 
> Why is Google Talk not sufficient?-- 


Alan Williamson
  "a wiki -and- a blog" @ http://www.Blog-City.com/

  b: http://alan.blog-city.com/
___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: Skype Update?

[Wayne Fiori]

Skype is a little heavy for the N800. Besides, it's only taken Skype
two-three years to release an upgrade for Linux from version 1.3 to
1.4. While the Windows world is using v 3.1.

Why is Google Talk not sufficient?
--
=W


On 5/8/07, Alan Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As i load up my bag one thing i am missing is skype.  Cheap calls back
> to the UK will probably force me to take my laptop afterall.
>
> Is there any update to the progress of this?
> --
> Alan Williamson
>   "a wiki -and- a blog" @ http://www.Blog-City.com/
>
>   b: http://alan.blog-city.com/
> ___
> maemo-users mailing list
> maemo-users@maemo.org
> https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
>
___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Skype Update?

[Alan Williamson]

As i load up my bag one thing i am missing is skype.  Cheap calls back 
to the UK will probably force me to take my laptop afterall.

Is there any update to the progress of this?
-- 
Alan Williamson
  "a wiki -and- a blog" @ http://www.Blog-City.com/

  b: http://alan.blog-city.com/
___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: Instant on Loading

[Alan Williamson]

Speaking of the field, the instant on has been interesting.  I have 
found myself sitting idly in the car waiting for my wife as she pops 
into the shops for various stuff.

fire up the N800, and jump on to an available wireless connection that 
some poor soul has left completely wide open to let the N800 get its RSS 
fix!  I can be in and out in the under the minute!!!

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> You reminded me of something.  Verizon guys came over last week to hook 
> up a new fiber optic based internet/phone/TV system to my house (very 
> nice, very fast).  When they were done the PC couldn't immediately 
> connect to the new router and when I was unable to reset the IP I 
> realized I needed to reboot it, which would take a few minutes.  
> However, I didn't really need the PC to test it, did I?  Not when I 
> could fire up the N800 in far less time and connect almost instantly!  
> Sure enough, I could get on the internet right away.  The Verizon techs 
> were stunned.  As they left all they could talk about was getting a hold 
> of N800s and using them in the field.  Now, if only Nokia would get 
> behind such corporate uses (hint hint, fellow employees...)
___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: N800 inflight!

[Acadia Secure Networks]

Alan,


aah! That has been my quest as well."losing" the laptop.

However, you might want to mitigate the risk/consequences of losing of 
your N800 while you experience the "mind fog" of jet lag by taking that 
laptop along as a backup. On the other hand if money is not an issue you 
could purchase a second N800 as a backup and keep it in a separate location.

I did a similar work related experiment a few months ago (i.e. bringing 
to/using at the work site  an N800 in lieu of a laptop to perform 
equipment config work) and the experiment was a success.



Best Regards,

 

John Holmblad

 

Acadia Secure Networks




* *

*would** you like to know where is Darren on his thru-hike?
you can find out at:www.whereisdarren.com***

 

* ***



 



Alan Williamson wrote:
> Afternoon happy N800'ers!
>
> I will be conducting an experiment.  I will be travelling from the UK to 
> San Francisco, and then back via Dallas, and instead of carrying my 
> laptop, i am going to be armed with just my N800 and a bluetooth keyboard.
>
> I have loaded up my 2GB card with tunes, audio books, pics of the kids. 
>   I have VNC all configured and SSH.  SO there should be no stopping 
> me eh?
>
> While i am on the place, is there a way for me to kill the wireless 
> completely?   This would ensure i don't get hassle from the air 
> hostesses but also to save as much battery for the flight as possible.
>
> Any advice?  Am i mad trying this, or should i just take my laptop as a 
> backup?  :)
>
>   

___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: Reading the manual (was RE: Instant on Loading)

[Jonathan Greene]

I found the manual in my own exploration of the device and was
surprised it was not more actively promoted anywhere since the box
only included a quickstart guide and no printed material of detail.  I
missed it was there when I had the 770...

http://www.maemoapps.com/2007/03/12/the-basics-the-user-guide/

On 5/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > so if you do not carry your manual with you ;)
>
> You do, unless you have deleted it from the Documents folder.
>
>
> > oh come on ... surely you aren't expecting me to read the actual
> manual
>
> Only reading once the index would help any new tablet user a lot.
> Really.
>
> 1 extra minut for someone like you would save >1000 subscribers from
> having to deal with basic questions answered in plain English (+ a dozen
> of other languages) in your own tablet.
>
> Think about it.  :)
>
> Quim
> ___
> maemo-users mailing list
> maemo-users@maemo.org
> https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
>


-- 
Jonathan Greene
+1.914.750.8740
AIM / iChat - atmasphere
gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gizmo - JonathanGreene
blogs - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp  / http://www.maemoapps.com
___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

RE: Instant on Loading

[randall.arnold]

You reminded me of something.  Verizon guys came over last week to hook
up a new fiber optic based internet/phone/TV system to my house (very
nice, very fast).  When they were done the PC couldn't immediately
connect to the new router and when I was unable to reset the IP I
realized I needed to reboot it, which would take a few minutes.
However, I didn't really need the PC to test it, did I?  Not when I
could fire up the N800 in far less time and connect almost instantly!
Sure enough, I could get on the internet right away.  The Verizon techs
were stunned.  As they left all they could talk about was getting a hold
of N800s and using them in the field.  Now, if only Nokia would get
behind such corporate uses (hint hint, fellow employees...)

Randall (Randy) Arnold
Quality Feedback Analyst
Nokia-CMO/Dallas
1-817-408-5159 (mobile)

 




From: ext Mathias Uebelacker
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 1:28 PM
To: Arnold Randall (Nokia-CMO/Dallas)
Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org
Subject: Re: Instant on Loading


well and another useful thing is an ear protection so that you
can work without any disturbs from the other passengers and there
questions like ... oh what a nice little computer or whats that or
please describe all the functions or can i see the video function
please. 

Mathias


2007/5/8, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 

Not to mention that the manual is loaded in PDF form to
the device (in way too many languages... delete...delete...delete...
lol)

Randall (Randy) Arnold
Quality Feedback Analyst
Nokia-CMO/Dallas


 




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ext Mathias
Uebelacker
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 1:14 PM
To: Alan Williamson
Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org
Subject: Re: Instant on Loading



so if you do not carry your manual with you ;)
you can use the onboard help by typing "offline" you get some possible
results - with the key-combination

Mathias


2007/5/8, Alan Williamson < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


> Have a look to the manual, it even has
some cool industrial icons (like 
> page 5, some people like these
things).


oh come on ... surely you aren't
expecting me to read the actual manual
now are you?!?!?  Now where would all
the fun be?!?  ;)

___ 
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org

https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users




___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users




___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Converting Documents

[Amichai Rotman]

Hello all,

I am about to start a new job that involves a lot of tech documents reading.
I want to be able to read all the documents on my N770.
Problem: Documents are in different formants (PDF, Doc and some PPS).
Reading them as is is not an option - for various reasons, especially
because its too small to read.

I found the fb2 format to be the best option.

What would be the easier, faster way to convert the docs (if possible at
all) ?

Thanks!

--
.::.

Amichai Rotman

UIN#: 6401746
Registered Linux User#: 201192 [http://counter.li.org/]
Registered Ubuntu User #12851 [http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net]



PLEASE READ: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html



.::.
___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: Instant on Loading

[James Knott]

Mathias Uebelacker wrote:
> so if you do not carry your manual with you ;) you can use the onboard 
> help by typing "offline" you get some possible results - with the 
> key-combination
>

The manual should be available on his N800, unless he delected it.


-- 
Use OpenOffice.org 
___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: Instant on Loading

[Mathias Uebelacker]

well and another useful thing is an ear protection so that you can work
without any disturbs from the other passengers and there questions like ...
oh what a nice little computer or whats that or please describe all the
functions or can i see the video function please.

Mathias

2007/5/8, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


 Not to mention that the manual is loaded in PDF form to the device (in
way too many languages... delete...delete...delete... lol)

*Randall (Randy) Arnold*
*Quality Feedback Analyst*
*Nokia-CMO/Dallas*


 --
*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *ext Mathias Uebelacker
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 08, 2007 1:14 PM
*To:* Alan Williamson
*Cc:* maemo-users@maemo.org
*Subject:* Re: Instant on Loading

so if you do not carry your manual with you ;) you can use the onboard
help by typing "offline" you get some possible results - with the
key-combination

Mathias

2007/5/8, Alan Williamson < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > Have a look to the manual, it even has some cool industrial icons
> (like
> > page 5, some people like these things).
>
>
> oh come on ... surely you aren't expecting me to read the actual manual
> now are you?!?!?  Now where would all the fun be?!?  ;)
> ___
> maemo-users mailing list
> maemo-users@maemo.org
> https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
>


___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users


___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Reading the manual (was RE: Instant on Loading)

[quim.gil]

> so if you do not carry your manual with you ;)

You do, unless you have deleted it from the Documents folder.


> oh come on ... surely you aren't expecting me to read the actual
manual

Only reading once the index would help any new tablet user a lot.
Really.

1 extra minut for someone like you would save >1000 subscribers from
having to deal with basic questions answered in plain English (+ a dozen
of other languages) in your own tablet. 

Think about it.  :)

Quim
___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

RE: Instant on Loading

[randall.arnold]

Not to mention that the manual is loaded in PDF form to the device (in
way too many languages... delete...delete...delete... lol)

Randall (Randy) Arnold
Quality Feedback Analyst
Nokia-CMO/Dallas


 




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ext Mathias
Uebelacker
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 1:14 PM
To: Alan Williamson
Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org
Subject: Re: Instant on Loading


so if you do not carry your manual with you ;) you can use the
onboard help by typing "offline" you get some possible results - with
the key-combination

Mathias


2007/5/8, Alan Williamson < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 

> Have a look to the manual, it even has some cool
industrial icons (like 
> page 5, some people like these things).


oh come on ... surely you aren't expecting me to read
the actual manual
now are you?!?!?  Now where would all the fun be?!?  ;)
___ 
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users



___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: Instant on Loading

[Mathias Uebelacker]

so if you do not carry your manual with you ;) you can use the onboard help
by typing "offline" you get some possible results - with the key-combination

Mathias

2007/5/8, Alan Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


> Have a look to the manual, it even has some cool industrial icons (like
> page 5, some people like these things).


oh come on ... surely you aren't expecting me to read the actual manual
now are you?!?!?  Now where would all the fun be?!?  ;)
___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: Instant on Loading

[Alan Williamson]

> Have a look to the manual, it even has some cool industrial icons (like
> page 5, some people like these things). 


oh come on ... surely you aren't expecting me to read the actual manual 
now are you?!?!?  Now where would all the fun be?!?  ;)
___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

RE: Instant on Loading

[quim.gil]

> Although only "Simple" if you know about it!

User manual included in the sales box (paper) and the device (PDF). Page
15. "Lock touch screen and keys". The s3kr3t combination of keys is
unveiled there. 

Also, "Disable wireless connections" is described in page 24.

Have a look to the manual, it even has some cool industrial icons (like
page 5, some people like these things). 

>Are they are any other combinations of key presses that result 
>in a very handy time saving function?

Make sure not to miss page 31.  ;)

Quim
___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: New install files for N800

[Marius Vollmer]

"ext Graham Cobb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 1) I had chosen the wrong names for some packages.  I have now
> created new packages with the new names but it is necessary to
> remove the broken packages in order to install the new ones.  I used
> the normal Debian idiom of specifying that the new packages
> Conflicts:, Replaces: and Provides: the old package.  apt-get then
> (correctly) removes the old package when asked to install the new
> package (either directly or as a result of a dependency).

Recent versions of the Application Manager do the same (but only for
Conflicts/Replaces, not for Conflicts alone).

I am being very careful with automatically removing packages in the
Application Manager (to resolve Conflicts) since it is easy to remove
too many and we don't want to expect the user to be experienced enough
to decide whether or not the removal is OK.

> 2) Because of the first problem I needed to tell people to remove
> the old packages first.  But these are library packages and are not
> visible (except in red pill mode).  If I tell them to remove the
> actual user applications involved, the application manager does not
> seem to remove the dependencies.

They _should_ get removed automatically when they have been installed
by the AM in the first place.  The AM keeps a list of automatically
installed packages in /var/lib/osso-application-installer/autoinst,
and when a user package is removed that depends on one these packages,
it should get removed as well.  If this doesn't work for you, I would
be happy to see the details.

> Is there a better solution?

You can make new versions of the packages with the wrong names that
are empty and make them depend on the packages with the correct names.
The packages with the correct names can then conflict with the old
versions of the packages with the wrong names.

Given this setup, the AM should upgrade the wrongly named packages to
the harmless empty ones.  The wrongly named packages would still be in
the system, which is a bit ugly, but if you need the Provides in your
renamed packages, keeping them as real packages is actually cleaner,
I'd say.  (Provides doesn't really work with versioned dependencies.)
___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: Instant on Loading

[Alan Williamson]

Michael Wiktowy wrote:
> I think the power saving in the tablets is brilliant. I liked the
> screen cover of the 770 but if you don't want to wait for the screen
> to turn of on the N800, hit the power button followed by the middle of
> the direction pad to instant off and lock the keys and screen. Do the
> exact same thing to re-enable things. Simple and fast.

By George that works!!!  Very sweet tip!

Although only "Simple" if you know about it!

Are they are any other combinations of key presses that result in a very 
handy time saving function?

-- 
Alan Williamson
  "a wiki -and- a blog" @ http://www.Blog-City.com/

  b: http://alan.blog-city.com/
___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: Instant on Loading

[Michael Wiktowy]

On 5/8/07, Igor Stoppa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 2007-05-06 at 09:49 -0400, ext das manga wrote:
> > Is there a way to enable instant on loading,
> >
> > i use the device to read while commuting, it gets old having to clik
> > though to get the pdf or txt file i was reading.
> >
> > is there a way to save a state, then when the system boots,   load the
> > saved state?
>
> Just let it on and see how long it takes to run out of battery.
>
> > i like the nokia 800 but what asshat designed a portable device
> > without instant on?   some brain dead zombie i guess.
>
> b :-D

I think it is more like ... "gggnnn ... mre brins!" ;]

I think the power saving in the tablets is brilliant. I liked the
screen cover of the 770 but if you don't want to wait for the screen
to turn of on the N800, hit the power button followed by the middle of
the direction pad to instant off and lock the keys and screen. Do the
exact same thing to re-enable things. Simple and fast.

 ... simple enough even for someone who doesn't grasp the concept that
asking for help while insulting someone is a bad strategy and
extremely rude. You should probably apologize if you don't want to end
up on everyone's plonk list, dasmanga.

/Mike
___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

RE: N800 inflight!

[randall.arnold]

Yeah, I'm surprised the option was not put in another location, such as
the wifi icon.  I always forget it's accessed via the tablet's power
button... and I helped launch the crazy thing!  I blame advancing age.

Randall (Randy) Arnold
Quality Feedback Analyst
Nokia-CMO/Dallas
1-817-408-5159 (mobile)

 

>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ext Alan Williamson
>Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 11:34 AM
>To: maemo-users
>Subject: Re: N800 inflight!
>
>> There's a off line option, which turns off all wireless, including 
>> bluetooth.  Just press the power button to bring up the list 
>to select.
>
>oooh sweet, now i see it.  [i never turn off the device!]
>
>thanks James.
>
>--
>Alan Williamson
>  "a wiki -and- a blog" @ http://www.Blog-City.com/
>
>  b: http://alan.blog-city.com/
>___
>maemo-users mailing list
>maemo-users@maemo.org
>https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
>
___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: N800 inflight!

[Alan Williamson]

> There's a off line option, which turns off all wireless, including 
> bluetooth.  Just press the power button to bring up the list to select.

oooh sweet, now i see it.  [i never turn off the device!]

thanks James.

-- 
Alan Williamson
  "a wiki -and- a blog" @ http://www.Blog-City.com/

  b: http://alan.blog-city.com/
___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: Nokia N800 or N770 and very bad eyesight.

[Antonio Orlando]

Me too. Whisper it to someone at Nokia who has the ears to hear and the  
power to start some marketing briefing study ;)
Maybe GP2x staff is already accounting that for their eventual next game  
console, I pointed out to them that this has never been done for portable  
devices (to my - and their - knowledge) but it would be sweet for all  
those 3D games, and affordable too (3D games on portable consoles are the  
perfect fit for this idea, so I've proposed it to GP2X staff, which has  
been so kind to interact with me, but maybe also Nintendo and Sony should  
consider it for DS and PSP, or their successors).

--
Antonio

> hey, Antonio, that's a really interesting idea!  I'd love to see this
> put into use...
>
> Randall (Randy) Arnold
> Quality Feedback Analyst
> Nokia-CMO/Dallas
___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: N800 inflight!

[James Knott]

Alan Williamson wrote:
> Afternoon happy N800'ers!
>
> I will be conducting an experiment.  I will be travelling from the UK to 
> San Francisco, and then back via Dallas, and instead of carrying my 
> laptop, i am going to be armed with just my N800 and a bluetooth keyboard.
>
> I have loaded up my 2GB card with tunes, audio books, pics of the kids. 
>   I have VNC all configured and SSH.  SO there should be no stopping 
> me eh?
>
> While i am on the place, is there a way for me to kill the wireless 
> completely?   This would ensure i don't get hassle from the air 
> hostesses but also to save as much battery for the flight as possible.
>
> Any advice?  Am i mad trying this, or should i just take my laptop as a 
> backup?  :)
>
>   
There's a off line option, which turns off all wireless, including 
bluetooth.  Just press the power button to bring up the list to select.


-- 
Use OpenOffice.org 
___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: New install files for N800

[Graham Cobb]

On Tuesday 24 April 2007 11:46, Marius Vollmer wrote:
> "ext Florian Boor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > - You need to install the libmimedir-gnome1 package manually, it is
> >   not pulled in automatically.
>
> Why is this?  Could the Application Manager do something different to
> make it work?

Marius,

The problem was caused by a packaging bug (mine), not a problem in the 
Application Manager.  However, while fixing this (and other) packaging bugs I 
did come across a couple of problems caused by restrictions in the 
Application Manager:

1) I had chosen the wrong names for some packages.  I have now created new 
packages with the new names but it is necessary to remove the broken packages 
in order to install the new ones.  I used the normal Debian idiom of 
specifying that the new packages Conflicts:, Replaces: and Provides: the old 
package.  apt-get then (correctly) removes the old package when asked to 
install the new package (either directly or as a result of a dependency).  
But the Application Manager just refuses to install the new package reporting 
conflicts with the old package.  Could the Application Manager do the same 
analysis as apt-get to decide how to complete the installation?

2) Because of the first problem I needed to tell people to remove the old 
packages first.  But these are library packages and are not visible (except 
in red pill mode).  If I tell them to remove the actual user applications 
involved, the application manager does not seem to remove the  dependencies.  
So I ended up telling them they had to use apt-get to remove the broken 
packages.

Is there a better solution?

Graham
___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: Poor GPS Navicore software

[Michele]

Hi all,
>
> The one feature that make this device worthless for me (to the point that
> I'll return it to the Nokia shop) is that you cannot have your maps pointing
> North. You only have a function to temporarily orient the map to North and
> then it switches back to its (crazy) rotate map mode so that your car always
> heads forward. I don't understand who can use this mode for navigation. 
> Imagine
> how it would be like to use a paper map instead and have to rotate it at every
> turn you take.
>
>   
I have had (and still have) NaviCore software installed on my 770 Tablet 
for more than one year, and I found it to be best software actually 
available on the market for Navigator systems.

I compared it with lots of other navis (rather simple to have it ever 
with you, my GPS module in a pocket and the 770 in another one...) and 
every time the main defect of the system is the tremendous slow 
start-time. It needs lots of time, probably due to the limited memory of 
the 770 to 'assets' itself, and after some minutes of using it become a 
perfect instrument to walk somewhere. After this kind of boot-up, it 
have proved the best for clarity and precision of information (sometimes 
a little too late, when you are also slightly too much fast) and speed 
of recalculation of routes.

As far as i remember, if you disable the auto-update feature (or 
something similar, I have the Italian localization, i.e. the feature 
that adapts the map to the speed you are travelling) and set the map 
with north up (there is an item in the main menu), it doesn't change 
visualization anymore.

I personally prefer to have the driving direction up while - err... - 
driving, and the north up while walking.

Did you try to disable that adapt-to-speed feature?

It could also be a difference between versions, I thought to transfer 
Navicore from my 770 to my N800, but the two gadgets are being used with 
different use-cases, so I definitely delegate the GPS task to the 770 
thanx to his hard-cover

Cheers,

Michele

___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

N800 inflight!

[Alan Williamson]

Afternoon happy N800'ers!

I will be conducting an experiment.  I will be travelling from the UK to 
San Francisco, and then back via Dallas, and instead of carrying my 
laptop, i am going to be armed with just my N800 and a bluetooth keyboard.

I have loaded up my 2GB card with tunes, audio books, pics of the kids. 
  I have VNC all configured and SSH.  SO there should be no stopping 
me eh?

While i am on the place, is there a way for me to kill the wireless 
completely?   This would ensure i don't get hassle from the air 
hostesses but also to save as much battery for the flight as possible.

Any advice?  Am i mad trying this, or should i just take my laptop as a 
backup?  :)

-- 
Alan Williamson
  "a wiki -and- a blog" @ http://www.Blog-City.com/

  b: http://alan.blog-city.com/
___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: Re: Aw: Re: Poor GPS Navicore software

[Mathias Uebelacker]

in addition to my last answer more details. On my 9510 is TomTom
Mobile 5.20installed and on menue 5-3-3 which means "Kompass
Einstellung" ther is the
option north up.

Mathias

2007/5/8, Mathias Uebelacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


I amanda using some versions off TomTom on an XDA, an IPAQ, Nokia 6610
(S60) and on my Nokia 9510i (S80) and all my devices uing north up but my
versions are two years old and i never made an upgrade.

Mathias

- Ursprüngliche Mitteilung -
Von: Johan Helsingius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
An: Mathias Uebelacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED],  maemo-users@maemo.org
Gesendet: Di.,  8. Mai. 2007 18:00:59 CEST
Betreff: Re: Aw: Re: Poor GPS Navicore software
Mathias Uebelacker wrote:
> Navicore and TomTom are different companys

Totally different. My point was simply that lack of "north-up"
doesn't seem to be an issue for many users, if TomTom can be
a market leader without that feature.

Julf



___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Aw: Re: Aw: Re: Poor GPS Navicore software

[Mathias Uebelacker]

I amanda using some versions off TomTom on an XDA, an IPAQ, Nokia 6610 (S60) 
and on my Nokia 9510i (S80) and all my devices uing north up but my versions 
are two years old and i never made an upgrade.

Mathias

- Ursprüngliche Mitteilung -
Von: Johan Helsingius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
An: Mathias Uebelacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED],  maemo-users@maemo.org
Gesendet: Di.,  8. Mai. 2007 18:00:59 CEST
Betreff: Re: Aw: Re: Poor GPS Navicore software
Mathias Uebelacker wrote:
> Navicore and TomTom are different companys

Totally different. My point was simply that lack of "north-up"
doesn't seem to be an issue for many users, if TomTom can be
a market leader without that feature.

Julf


___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: Instant on Loading

[Igor Stoppa]

On Sun, 2007-05-06 at 09:49 -0400, ext das manga wrote:
> Is there a way to enable instant on loading,
> 
> i use the device to read while commuting, it gets old having to clik
> though to get the pdf or txt file i was reading.
> 
> is there a way to save a state, then when the system boots,   load the
> saved state?

Just let it on and see how long it takes to run out of battery.

> i like the nokia 800 but what asshat designed a portable device
> without instant on?   some brain dead zombie i guess.

b :-D

-- 
Cheers, Igor

Igor Stoppa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
(Nokia Multimedia - CP - OSSO / Helsinki, Finland)
___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: Aw: Re: Poor GPS Navicore software

[Johan Helsingius]

Mathias Uebelacker wrote:
> Navicore and TomTom are different companys

Totally different. My point was simply that lack of "north-up"
doesn't seem to be an issue for many users, if TomTom can be
a market leader without that feature.

Julf

___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Aw: Re: Poor GPS Navicore software

[Mathias Uebelacker]

Navicore and TomTom are different companys
Mathias
- Ursprüngliche Mitteilung -
Von: Johan Helsingius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org
Gesendet: Di.,  8. Mai. 2007 16:04:40 CEST
Betreff: Re: Poor GPS Navicore software
Missouga Dongi wrote:

> The one feature that make this device worthless for me (to the point that
> I'll return it to the Nokia shop) is that you cannot have your maps pointing
> North. 

That misfeature doesn't seem to stop TomTom from being a
market leader...

Julf

___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: Poor GPS Navicore software

[Johan Helsingius]

Missouga Dongi wrote:

> In terms of units sold the models bellow seem to lead:

In what market?

> I have not used any TomTom GPS so I can't comment on that but I own/owned
> 3 different models from Garmin and all of them give you the choice to
> select between north pointing maps and "mary-go-round" maps.

I know. TomTom doesn't. Despite that, TomTom as a company
seems to be the market leader in Europe.

> People who use rotating maps tend to get lost more easily and all it
> takes is a missed turn because they are not aware how they are globally 
> positioned. 

I think that depends on what they are used to.

I prefer "North Up", but only in a situation where I
actually watch a screen. When you drive, you should
*not* be watching a screen.

Julf


___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: Instant on Loading

[Scott Carr]

das manga wrote:
> Is there a way to enable instant on loading,
>   
If you leave the device alone for 30 seconds, then the device goes into 
power save mode.  In this mode, you can bring the device back to the 
same state you had originally.

The asshats as you so eloquently described them, actually thought about 
things quite thoroughly in this regard.  Granted, it would be nice to be 
able to press the power button once, and have it go into power save mode 
without waiting.

With the device in "Power Save" mode, I have had the device go for 
several days without recharge or draining the battery.  It only uses 
battery while you are using the device.  (Unless of course you leave 
something running in the background.)
> i use the device to read while commuting, it gets old having to clik
> though to get the pdf or txt file i was reading.
>
> is there a way to save a state, then when the system boots,   load the
> saved state?
>
>
> i like the nokia 800 but what asshat designed a portable device
> without instant on?   some brain dead zombie i guess.
> ___
> maemo-users mailing list
> maemo-users@maemo.org
> https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
>
>   


-- 
Scott Carr
OpenOffice.org
Documentation Co-Lead
http://documentation.openoffice.org

___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

RE: Nokia N800 or N770 and very bad eyesight.

[randall.arnold]

hey, Antonio, that's a really interesting idea!  I'd love to see this
put into use...

Randall (Randy) Arnold
Quality Feedback Analyst
Nokia-CMO/Dallas
 

>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ext Antonio Orlando
>Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 9:59 AM
>To: Maemo users
>Subject: Re: Nokia N800 or N770 and very bad eyesight.
>
>> This thread just made me realize, the N800/770 could be 
>ideal devices 
>> for stereoscopic viewing.
>
>Same opinion here, but with a different approach than the one 
>you propose, which requires dangerous efforts to eyes and 
>mind. The 770 and n800, with their high screen resolution, can 
>"easily" be used as *amazing* stereoscopic photo and video 
>displays. Sure, not many movies are made in 3D, but I think 
>it's a matter of time. And besides videos and photos, there 
>are many other applications that could benefit from depth perception.
>
>I advanced a suggestion to GP2X staff some time ago, and I've 
>already done a bit of experimentation on the 770 on this 
>subject. My "prototype"  
>results are very encouraging. What we need is a sort of 
>"screen cover"  
>perfectly fitting the 770 display with its dimensions, so to 
>avoid every shift on the display.
>
>This "kind-of-screen-cover" has to be a lenticular (you know, 
>those you can find with potato chips, used to bring 2D 
>animations, zoom or 3D effects). The 770 should be used in 
>"portrait mode" (and the lenticular must of course have the 
>vertical stripes parallel to the symmetry axis of our body), 
>because the LCD is built with r, g, b elements oriented in 
>such a way that, using it in landscape mode, would result in 
>color artifacts.
>
>The 3D content should be rendered with the "interlace" mode, 
>that is odd lines for one eye and even lines for the other 
>one: the lenticular bends the rays so that one eye can see 
>just odd lines, and the other can see just even ones. This 
>brings a glasses-free true-colour nice-resolution deep image. 
>For moving images (videos) the perceived effect is even more 
>impressive.
>
>Because of the fact that the lenticular requires high quality 
>and pixel-perfect construction, it's obviuous we can't build 
>them with our knife ;)  Only big companies can afford buying 
>thousands of pieces to lenticular manufacturers, giving their 
>own specifications.
>
>Apart from this "little" problem, if someone could provide and 
>sell these lenticulars, Nokia or 3rd parties, they sure would 
>be rather cheap (it's just a little transparent plastic 
>rectangle, after all), no more than 10$ (and I think I'm 
>exagerating), but they could really add a new dimension to the 
>device (he he :)
>
>Of course this approach requires just one person viewing at 
>the screen, and a specific distance of the tablet from the 
>eyes, which are pretty simple requirements to follow for a 
>portable device user (the lenticular can be done in such a way 
>that the distance is reasonable).
>
>Oh, a quick hack to "experiment" without a lenticular, which I 
>have done:  
>print black vertical lines on a transparent paper, put a 
>transparent plastic rectangle on the tablet display, and put 
>the printed paper on it.  
>IT REQUIRES A LOT OF TRIAL AND ERROR EXPERIMENTATION to find 
>the correct size and distances for the lines to print, so I 
>really can't suggest doing this, but when you get it and try 
>to view a well done 3D picture "remapped" with the interlace 
>method described above, you can't avoid obtaining a lot of 
>"WOW" from everyone staring at it.
>
>--
>Antonio
>___
>maemo-users mailing list
>maemo-users@maemo.org
>https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
>
___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: Nokia N800 or N770 and very bad eyesight.

[Antonio Orlando]

> This thread just made me realize, the N800/770 could be ideal devices
> for stereoscopic viewing.

Same opinion here, but with a different approach than the one you propose,  
which requires dangerous efforts to eyes and mind. The 770 and n800, with  
their high screen resolution, can "easily" be used as *amazing*  
stereoscopic photo and video displays. Sure, not many movies are made in  
3D, but I think it's a matter of time. And besides videos and photos,  
there are many other applications that could benefit from depth perception.

I advanced a suggestion to GP2X staff some time ago, and I've already done  
a bit of experimentation on the 770 on this subject. My "prototype"  
results are very encouraging. What we need is a sort of "screen cover"  
perfectly fitting the 770 display with its dimensions, so to avoid every  
shift on the display.

This "kind-of-screen-cover" has to be a lenticular (you know, those you  
can find with potato chips, used to bring 2D animations, zoom or 3D  
effects). The 770 should be used in "portrait mode" (and the lenticular  
must of course have the vertical stripes parallel to the symmetry axis of  
our body), because the LCD is built with r, g, b elements oriented in such  
a way that, using it in landscape mode, would result in color artifacts.

The 3D content should be rendered with the "interlace" mode, that is odd  
lines for one eye and even lines for the other one: the lenticular bends  
the rays so that one eye can see just odd lines, and the other can see  
just even ones. This brings a glasses-free true-colour nice-resolution  
deep image. For moving images (videos) the perceived effect is even more  
impressive.

Because of the fact that the lenticular requires high quality and  
pixel-perfect construction, it's obviuous we can't build them with our  
knife ;)  Only big companies can afford buying thousands of pieces to  
lenticular manufacturers, giving their own specifications.

Apart from this "little" problem, if someone could provide and sell these  
lenticulars, Nokia or 3rd parties, they sure would be rather cheap (it's  
just a little transparent plastic rectangle, after all), no more than  
10$ (and I think I'm exagerating), but they could really add a new  
dimension to the device (he he :)

Of course this approach requires just one person viewing at the screen,  
and a specific distance of the tablet from the eyes, which are pretty  
simple requirements to follow for a portable device user (the lenticular  
can be done in such a way that the distance is reasonable).

Oh, a quick hack to "experiment" without a lenticular, which I have done:  
print black vertical lines on a transparent paper, put a transparent  
plastic rectangle on the tablet display, and put the printed paper on it.  
IT REQUIRES A LOT OF TRIAL AND ERROR EXPERIMENTATION to find the correct  
size and distances for the lines to print, so I really can't suggest doing  
this, but when you get it and try to view a well done 3D picture  
"remapped" with the interlace method described above, you can't avoid  
obtaining a lot of "WOW" from everyone staring at it.

-- 
Antonio
___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: Poor GPS Navicore software

[Missouga Dongi]

On 8 May 2007, Johan Helsingius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Missouga Dongi wrote:
> 
> > The one feature that make this device worthless for me (to the point that
> > I'll return it to the Nokia shop) is that you cannot have your maps pointing
> > North. 
> 
> That misfeature doesn't seem to stop TomTom from being a
> market leader...

In terms of units sold the models bellow seem to lead:

Garmin StreetPilot i5
Garmin Nuvi 350
Navman iCN 650
Lowrance iWay 500c

I have not used any TomTom GPS so I can't comment on that but I own/owned
3 different models from Garmin and all of them give you the choice to
select between north pointing maps and "mary-go-round" maps. From the
software point of view it is harder to have the rotating maps than just
to move the car pointer on the map so it shouldn't be that hard to have both.

People who use rotating maps tend to get lost more easily and all it
takes is a missed turn because they are not aware how they are globally 
positioned. 

How you navigate should be a user choice and Navicore is gone lose
clients (like myself) if they won't implement this option.

___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: Accuracy of the power meter?

[Michael Wiktowy]

On 5/8/07, Ralph Angenendt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Eero Tamminen wrote:
> > > Omeweather turned out to be it, it looks like.  I need to do some more
> > > tests to conclusively prove it, but it looks like I had set omweather
> > > (version 0.17.2) to "never" update, and my guess that set the interval
> > > time to 0, and that seems to have triggered some continue loop.
> > > Setting the interval time to 4 hours seems to have extended my battery
> > > life.
> >
> > AFAIK it can also make desktop take all the memory in the device within
> > day or two and make some of the other applets not to work.
>
> That seems to have been fixed in one of the last updates to omweather. I
> haven't seen massive memory consumption from omweather during the last
> weeks.

Good news ... maybe I will try using it again as it was causing
spontaneous rebooting on my N800 when I had the applet enabled. As
soon as I turned it off, my N800 has been rock solid. I think that I
had it never to update too so that quirk that Theodore pointed out is
illuminating. Hopefully that gets fixed too.

/Mike
___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: Poor GPS Navicore software

[Johan Helsingius]

Missouga Dongi wrote:

> The one feature that make this device worthless for me (to the point that
> I'll return it to the Nokia shop) is that you cannot have your maps pointing
> North. 

That misfeature doesn't seem to stop TomTom from being a
market leader...

Julf

___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: Poor GPS Navicore software

[Missouga Dongi]

On 8 May 2007, Ralph Angenendt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Missouga Dongi wrote:
> > Other annoyances: Most of the Nokia tablet owners use the auto-lock
> > function of the tablet so when it's not in use for a period longer
> > than a few minutes it locks the screen and then you have to use the
> > stylus to enter your unlock code to activate it again. This function
> > is not disabled by the Navicore software and your device locks its
> > screen while you navigate.
> 
> There is a "power saving" (or similar) setting somewhere, which should
> work around that when disabled. At least my tablet doesn't blank then.

The "power saving" works fine but has nothing to do with the screen-lock.
In "power saving" mode blanks your screen to save battery power until a
turn or other event arrives. Then the screen "wakes up" for the time it
takes to go past that turn and then it goes back to sleep again.

The screen-lock is active regardless of the power saving setting. It
will lock your screen if you have not touched the screen or the keys for
5 minutes (or the period you've set). Once your screen is locked only
the number pad is displayed although the Navicore software is still
running in the background.

___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: Accuracy of the power meter?

[Ralph Angenendt]

Eero Tamminen wrote:
> > Omeweather turned out to be it, it looks like.  I need to do some more
> > tests to conclusively prove it, but it looks like I had set omweather
> > (version 0.17.2) to "never" update, and my guess that set the interval
> > time to 0, and that seems to have triggered some continue loop.
> > Setting the interval time to 4 hours seems to have extended my battery
> > life.
> 
> AFAIK it can also make desktop take all the memory in the device within
> day or two and make some of the other applets not to work.

That seems to have been fixed in one of the last updates to omweather. I
haven't seen massive memory consumption from omweather during the last
weeks.

Ralph


pgpXdbJWL6DQn.pgp
Description: PGP signature
___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: Accuracy of the power meter?

[Eero Tamminen]

Hi,

ext Theodore Tso wrote:
>> Lucky you. When I'm connected to my AP at home (The white fonera AP),
>> I'll get 1.5 days max, even if I don't use the device and just omweather
>> does periodic updates.
> 
> Omeweather turned out to be it, it looks like.  I need to do some more
> tests to conclusively prove it, but it looks like I had set omweather
> (version 0.17.2) to "never" update, and my guess that set the interval
> time to 0, and that seems to have triggered some continue loop.
> Setting the interval time to 4 hours seems to have extended my battery
> life.

AFAIK it can also make desktop take all the memory in the device within
day or two and make some of the other applets not to work.


- Eero
___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: Accuracy of the power meter?

[Theodore Tso]

On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 01:39:35PM +0200, Ralph Angenendt wrote:
> Lucky you. When I'm connected to my AP at home (The white fonera AP),
> I'll get 1.5 days max, even if I don't use the device and just omweather
> does periodic updates.

Omeweather turned out to be it, it looks like.  I need to do some more
tests to conclusively prove it, but it looks like I had set omweather
(version 0.17.2) to "never" update, and my guess that set the interval
time to 0, and that seems to have triggered some continue loop.
Setting the interval time to 4 hours seems to have extended my battery
life.

 - Ted
___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: Accuracy of the power meter?

[Frantisek Dufka]

Ralph Angenendt wrote:
>> I'm running off a SD card too and with bluetooth on and wi-fi connected 
>> to AP it lasts couple of days.
> 
> Lucky you. When I'm connected to my AP at home (The white fonera AP),
> I'll get 1.5 days max, even if I don't use the device and just omweather
> does periodic updates.
> 

How often omweather updates data? Did you try with omweather disabled? 
Not sure what is default value now but you may try to change PSM timeout
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/maemo/users/18057#18057
I am now at 100ms and did not notice any disadvantages (Asus wl500gx 
with Oleg's firmware http://oleg.wl500g.info/). Also I have both N770 
and N800 so one of them sits idle while I am using the other one. Mostly 
the idle one is N800. N770 has hardcover so I take it everywhere and 
then just continue where I left even when at home.

Frantisek
___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: Poor GPS Navicore software

[Ralph Angenendt]

Missouga Dongi wrote:
> Other annoyances: Most of the Nokia tablet owners use the auto-lock
> function of the tablet so when it's not in use for a period longer
> than a few minutes it locks the screen and then you have to use the
> stylus to enter your unlock code to activate it again. This function
> is not disabled by the Navicore software and your device locks its
> screen while you navigate.

There is a "power saving" (or similar) setting somewhere, which should
work around that when disabled. At least my tablet doesn't blank then.

Ralph


pgptlVx7Eeusg.pgp
Description: PGP signature
___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: Accuracy of the power meter?

[Ralph Angenendt]

Frantisek Dufka wrote:
> Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> > The second is that I'm running off a 2gig flash card as my root
> > filesystem instead of the internal flash, per the instructions given in
> > the Maemo wiki.  That's a distinct possibility, although I don't see how
> > the flash card could be pulling so much current when the system is an
> > idle state.
> 
> I'm running off a SD card too and with bluetooth on and wi-fi connected 
> to AP it lasts couple of days.

Lucky you. When I'm connected to my AP at home (The white fonera AP),
I'll get 1.5 days max, even if I don't use the device and just omweather
does periodic updates.

Ralph


pgp9vS37AbcSE.pgp
Description: PGP signature
___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Poor GPS Navicore software

[Missouga Dongi]

I own a Nokia N800 personal tablet which is a great little Linux based PDA
with a beautiful 800x480 screen and lots of functionality. Recently I've
decided to buy the GPS kit from Navicore and I'm quite disappointed with my
purchase.  I've paid for the GPS kit 154? (including transport) and from the
hardware point of view I can't complain. It came with a car holder, power
adaptors, SD memory and quite a sensitive GPS/Bluetooth receiver. The software
on the other hand feels more like a beta version.

The one feature that make this device worthless for me (to the point that
I'll return it to the Nokia shop) is that you cannot have your maps pointing
North. You only have a function to temporarily orient the map to North and
then it switches back to its (crazy) rotate map mode so that your car always
heads forward. I don't understand who can use this mode for navigation. Imagine
how it would be like to use a paper map instead and have to rotate it at every
turn you take.

One useless feature is the "Safety Cameras" warning. The software uses a stupid
algorithm which just warns you when a camera is in a certain distance range
even when the camera is not on the same road you are driving on. When you are
on the motorway you get warnings from cameras on the roads parallel with or
intersecting the motorway. The software has also no knowledge of the direction
the camera is pointing to so you get warnings for cameras on the other side of
the road too.

For the traffic information you have to pay extra for the service and have a
GPRS mobile phone connected to the tablet.

Another software design problem is that your navigation screen is fixed, you
cannot alter any fields and the menus and icons are occupying 50% of your
screen area leaving only the other 50% for the map. There is no translucent
mode for the menus and info fields. Because of this poor GUI design it feels
more like looking at your cell phone screen than a high resolution 800x480 one. 

Other annoyances: Most of the Nokia tablet owners use the auto-lock function
of the tablet so when it's not in use for a period longer than a few minutes 
it locks the screen and then you have to use the stylus to enter your unlock 
code to activate it again. This function is not disabled by the Navicore
software and your device locks its screen while you navigate. You can imagine
what is like to enter numbers while driving just to be able to see the map
again. One solution is to disable to auto-lock function before you start using
the tablet as a GPS but this means pressing at least 3 menu items plus your
unlock code every time you want to switch this on and off.

A last problem is the voice guidance although this is not Navicore or Nokia's
fault: you can only barely hear the directions while driving even with the
volume set at max. This is a limitation of the tablet's speakers and the only
solution is to use the 3.5 jack with ear-phones or an amplifier.

For the reasons listed above I'll give a very poor mark to Navicore for their
navigation software usability. Meanwhile I'll just use my reliable Garmin 276C
GPS for every day navigation.

___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: Accuracy of the power meter?

[Frantisek Dufka]

Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> The second is that I'm running off a 2gig flash card as my root
> filesystem instead of the internal flash, per the instructions given in
> the Maemo wiki.  That's a distinct possibility, although I don't see how
> the flash card could be pulling so much current when the system is an
> idle state.

I'm running off a SD card too and with bluetooth on and wi-fi connected 
to AP it lasts couple of days.

> 
> Has anyone seen anything like this or any thoughts about why I might be
> seeing this?


Apart from something you installed (some home screen or status bar 
applet?) there is this metalayer-crawler that can get stuck when 
indexing card, there is also getty respawning bug 
https://maemo.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1222 but still it is probably 
something else as the first one probably drains battery faster and the 
getty bug slower. Nothing suspicious in kernel log?

Frantisek
___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: Accuracy of the power meter?

[Kalle Valo]

"Theodore Ts'o" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I've been noticing that I don't get anywhere near the promised "10 days
> idle" battery life on my N800.  With bluetooth and the wireless turned
> off (offline mode), and with the display off and keys/touchscreen
> locked, I'm getting at best 8-10 hours of idle time before the battery
> is completely drained.  

8-10 hours of standby time implies that the MPU cannot sleep.

> Has anyone seen anything like this or any thoughts about why I might be
> seeing this?

Usually there are two cases, either serial-console RD flag is enabled
or USB cable is connected. Both block MPU from sleeping (or going into
retention or whatever it is called). If it's not that, I would guess
that it's some badly behaving application.

-- 
Kalle Valo

___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: Accuracy of the power meter?

[Kalle Valo]

"ext Mikhail Sobolev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> One possibility is if you use R&D mode or some other [non-default]
> options changed with flasher application.  In this case power management
> would not be able to deliver the promised time.

RD-mode itself shouldn't affect power consumption, but for example
serial-console RD flag will.

-- 
Kalle Valo

___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users