Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: mailmanctl -s
WY == Will Yardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: WY What do most folks do so that Mailman will restart when the system is WY restarted uncleanly? Could having the system's startup script (assuming WY a FreeBSD style or SysV style startup script) default to -s cause any WY major problems? When the system goes down uncleanly, you *want* manual intervention to ensure things are really ok. Otherwise, why bother even having that check in place? -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: mailmanctl -s
WY == Will Yardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When the system goes down uncleanly, you *want* manual intervention to ensure things are really ok. Otherwise, why bother even having that check in place? WY In theory, perhaps. But in reality, what we want is for Mailman to WY start. WY If the system has been rebooted, it's not possible for any processes to WY already be running (before the startup script runs), so it seems fairly WY unlikely that any stale locks would be significant. And you know for certain that no other files were corrupted and horribly broken? I don't. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Moving existing archive into NNTP server
JC == Jon Carnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JC You can use the formail command to resend all the mail in an mbox. JC # To resend the mail in a spool to a users new adress: JC formail -Y -s /usr/sbin/sendmail [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ JC /var/spool/mail/user_name On the CPAN (http://www.cpan.org) is a perl program I wrote called mail2news that takes as an argument a newsgroup, and reads from stdin the message to post to that newsgroup. You could simplify the above to split the messages and feed them one at a time to this program instead of having to create a temporary list to populate the newsgroup. I use the script to read some large mailing lists via newsreaders and to provide broader local access and archiving to them. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] The causing a problem
SW == Simon White [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: SW The in shell has a special meaning, it would have to be escaped, SW because If you read Business Week, the Tech You column has a comment email address of tech[EMAIL PROTECTED] Just because the unix shell does something with doesn't mean it is invalid for local part of email addresses. The Mailman aliases should protect that in any case, because it could be used as a vector for attack, even if it does require sysadmin assistance ;-) -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] The causing a problem
e == ed [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: e parameter. Apache / IIS would be significantly confused for sure. 's are e not valid in HTML file names as they specify a part of a parameter list on e the url. If the code isn't URI escaping things when needed, then it is a security breach waiting to happen. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL and spam reports
RKB == Ryan K Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: RKB Please let us know if they are actually able to whitelist you. I've RKB been trying for months to no avail. Perhaps you have found a more RKB intelligent person. They don't whitelist you. You can sign a third party mail agreement with them, which means you do some hoop-jumping and agree to follow their rules. I'm not sure exactly what it buys you, but I think they are not so quick to block you, or they my block you more specifically than site-wide (ie, block only a particular sender or message pattern). -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D.Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman AOL's Client TOS notification
RK == Ricardo Kustner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: RK My ISP has been forwarding me a batch of complaints from AOL users, RK which apparantly are complaints about receiving spam. I guess it's What kind of quantities are you talking here? From my experience, AOL's alarms don't really go off until you reach something like 200+ such notices per day, which is easy to do with a large list. RK coming dumb AOL users who have no idea that they subscribed to the RK discussions at their own request so that they should take care of it RK themself if they want to unsubscribe. AOL knows that people use it as an unsubscribe button. We've asked everyone we could think of there that they should really add an unsubscribe button for those sites with whom they have their third party agreement (ie, those that get these notices), but apparently they don't think that is a good idea. RK Are there any other mailmain admins here who also get alot of complaints RK through AOL? Any tips on what I can do about it before my server and RK possibly ISP gets blacklisted? You can always call up AOL and tell them that your lists are all confirmed opt-in, and see what they say RK I can't even figure out the recipient of most of the messages since the RK mailinglist doesn't include the To: address (and I don't plan on Turn on VERP for each message delivery. Don't expect AOL to change the way they notify you to make it any easier. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D.Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman AOL's Client TOS notification
RK == Ricardo Kustner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: RK So my current situation is that my ISP is risking to get blacklisted and RK I can't do anything about it except for shutting down the lists or RK remove block all AOL users :( Yes, they are at risk. You had better find a way to unsubscribe those folk. VERP is a good start. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: AOL issue
PHB == Paul H Byerly Paul writes: PHB I have heard a rumour that AOL's new spam filters are rejecting PHB mail that has URLs as dotted quad addresses. If your server is no rumor. they say they do it on their postmaster web site. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D.Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL now bouncing ALL email from ALL mailman systems
LaMc == Links at Momsview com Links writes: LaMc Oct 23 09:39:34 myserver postfix/smtp[5615]: 974515884F8: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=mailin-04.mx.aol.com[64.12.138.152], delay=1, status=bounced (host mailin-04.mx.aol.com[64.12.138.152] said: 500 SYNTAX ERROR, COMMAND UNRECOGNIZED) I've heard that this particular message is an obscured content-based rejection message. Perhaps your message was discussing something they didn't like, or perhaps they've banned mail referencing some particular domain. did that message include reference to a web site via IP address instead of name? they'll block those, too. My logs show message flowing just fine from Mailman to AOL at 9:24 am US Eastern Time, with the VERP'd return addresses. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D.Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] downloading problems
JC == Jon Carnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JC On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 07:31, Angie wrote: I wanted to find out about downloading the Mailman for a list I am trying to convert over to another type of format. I currently have a couple of list with yahoo that relate to my business and would like to get away from that. It looked like this was a free program- but when I go to download I keep getting a message that I am not authorize to view the site. Could you help me? Thank you I missed the original post... But there are web filters out there that block access to 'free mail' servers, in the attempt that employees should not be reading their personal web-based email from work. We've run into that trap with our service, which is a newsletter sending service for companies, when some broken filter decided we should be blocked based on this type of criterion. I wouldn't be surprized if the not authorized came from such a filter. But it is hard to tell based on the exact error text given. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D.Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail not getting through to AOL
AT == Allan Trick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: AT and that they have to open up all mail coming in from our domain in order AT to get it (like has to be done with Hotmail). But I don't have an AOL AT account and can't tell them exactly what to do. Any guidance on what to AT tell our AOL folks how to receive mail sent through Mailman would be AT appreciated. AOL 8 and AOL 9 introduced many new features with regard to blocking mail. I'd check that they didn't inadvertently turn on some of those tools without also allowing your messages through. Also check out aol's 'postmaster' web site postmaster.info.aol.com, and see what they have to say about blocking and filtering. Check your mail server logs too for some AOL deliveries and see what they say. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D.Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] not allowing mass-subscription (web interface)
WY == Will Yardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: WY Lastly, is there a way to get Mailman to record information about WY confirmation of a subscription (if a link was clicked, from what IP; if WY via an email message, the headers of the message)? Is there a way to I've got some consulting money sitting about for someone to write such a feature into Mailman -- keeping record of the confirmation request and the confirmation response (either email or clickthrough data). Please contact me offlist if interested. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D.Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] not allowing mass-subscription (web interface)
EW == Ed Wilts [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've got some consulting money sitting about for someone to write such a feature into Mailman -- keeping record of the confirmation request and the confirmation response (either email or clickthrough data). EW Given the new anti-spam law coming into California with the burden of EW proof being on the e-mail sender that the user has really opted in, I EW don't see how we can avoid having this feature in Mailman. Some of run Exactly. And I'm willing to be the one to pay someone to build it in sooner rather than later. For similar reasons, I believe the other request of having a tunable to disable uploads but keep invitations is also necessary. I might pay for that too, if it wasn't too much more. I know that I can permanently keep all mail logs and web server logs and mailman logs as proof, but that's just too much unnecessary data. I want to be able to go in as the admin of the site (NOT the list owner -- they could see the secret token from the confirmation message and email/click it themselves) and review that information by pulling up the record of an individual address. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D.Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] postfix MAIL_GID
MS == Michael Sharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MS Are you confused by my question? If so, Mailman has to be told which MTA MS is is being built with, and that was done with make MAIL_GID=65535 install MS clean because in 'make options' postfix had a designation of 65535. No, it does not: [yertle]mailman% make options === Build options for mailman-2.1.3: [[ ... ]] * MAIL_GID [mailnull] The group name or id under which your MTA performs mail delivery Getting the value of MAIL_GID right is crucial to getting Mailman to work with your MTA. By default this port works with Sendmail. If you're using an alternative MTA installed from ports, you should set MAIL_GID at build time according to the following table. You may use either the group name or the numerical GID. (Please contact this port's maintainer if you wish to fill in the blanks or report mistakes!) MTA | MAIL_GID | Submitted by Exim3 | nobody (65534) | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Exim4 | mail (6) | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Postfix | mailman| [EMAIL PROTECTED] Qmail | ???| NOTE: for Postfix, the group may need to be 'nobody' if you are not using the Mailman integration for generating the postfix virtual and aliases files. [[ ... ]] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] RELEASED Mailman 2.1.3
TL == Tom Limoncelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: TL And not to brag, but you should see my BUILD_APACHE.sh script. It gets TL apache, php, mod_perl, checks the md5 checksums, builds everything, and TL does the install. And I only have to change variables at the top each TL time a new version is released. Almost sounds like freebsd's ports system ;-) Personally, for stuff I don't build from ports with default settings, I just keep notes in a text file on what I did. Documentation... who'd a thunk it? -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D.Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] postfix MAIL_GID
MS == Michael Sharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MS What is the numerical MAIL_GID for postfix? 'make options' used to give MS that number but it isnt anymore. You don't need to use a numeric GID, you can use the group name. If you're using the postfix integration with Mailman, then I'd suggest using MAIL_GID=mailman since the aliases and virtual files are owned by mailman, and postfix will do delivery as that user. If you use the FreeBSD port to install Mailman, it will tell you this ;-) -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D.Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] postfix MAIL_GID
d == dikshie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: d cd /usr/ports/mail/mailman d make options d make MAIL_GID=mailman install clean d after that I got: d RuntimeError: command failed: /usr/local/sbin/postalias /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases (status: 1, Operation not permitted) make sure /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases and /data/virtual are owned by user mailman, as are the *.db versions of the same files. In my installation, the data directory is group writable by group mailman. I assume the port did it that way, as I don't recall changing the group ownership, but it is possible. What's the output of: ls -la /usr/local/mailman/data on your system? -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman performance
PN == Peter Nixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: PN I understand all the MTA performance issues, there will be enough PN MTA servers and bandwith to handle the traffic, but my question is PN will mailman handle the load? Is anyone running a mailman How do you make mailman submit a single message to multiple MTA's? -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D.Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman performance
PN == Peter Nixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How do you make mailman submit a single message to multiple MTA's? PN You don't. why on earth would you want to do that? load balancing. redundancy. etc. I've got two really fast outbound servers with SSD mail spools. Why not send parts of the message to each? Or even alternate between them across messages (ie, choose one per message). -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Using VERP to avoid sobig bounces?
JO == Joe Orton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JO bounces using a real subscriber as the return address and JO -bounces@ as the recipient. JO Will turning on VERP avoid this headache? Doubtful. The reason the -bounces@ address is the recipient is because it is in people's LookOut! address books as automagically added when they receive the mail. If you have VERP on, the auto-noticed address will be the VERP'd bounce address instead so the virus will use the proper bounce address anyway. JO Also, following the URL in the automatic your subscription JO has been disabled please go to this URL to confirm always JO results in an Invalid confirmation string message, any JO ideas how to fix that? This happens to me all the time on the FreeBSD mailing lists and it is excessively annoying that the confirm URL doesn't work. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman v 2.0.13
JM == Joseph Mina [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JM I want to use the program mailman to manage my e-mail list. I'm JM using OS X, Jaguar. However, when I attempt to download the file JM via Safari I'm told the download manager can't download the file JM mailman-2.0.13.tgz Perhaps downloading the current version would work out better? Go to the http://www.list.org/ site to find it. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Python error message...
RB == Richard Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: RB You may have jumped the gun here. On mailman-developers Barry Warsaw RB posted a response to the 2.3 upgrade question. See: RB http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-developers/2003-July/ RB 015462.html I did the upgrade the other day. broke mailman all over the place since for some reason it had /usr/local/bin/python2.2 hard-coded into it. i just re-instaled mailman (actually took the opportunity to update from 2.1.1 to 2.1.2) and it works fine. MM caused python 2.3 to issue some feature going away and depricated warnings, but it still appears to work. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D.Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscriber tracking
TM == Todd Morrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: TM It seems that a user subscribing via mailman's webform thing gets all TM this info logged in $MAILMANROOT/logs/subscribe. However the vast TM majority of my subscribers subscribe via a custom webform (integrated TM with a catalog request page). This custom webform just sends an email TM to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the necessary arguments. TM I looked in the subscribe log and it shows the users email address in TM place of the ip address. Ideally I need it to show the appropriate ip TM address. You can start to see some complications here, as if it were to I was just investigating this for Mailman as well... One of my lives is as running a (broadcast-only) email newsletter service using our own proprietary database-driven software. For confirmation records, we keep a copy of the confirmation request email that was sent and the headers of the confirmation reply or some details from the click-thru confirmation depending on how the confirmation was completed. We do track the IP of the original web-form submission, but that is irrelevent in dealing with most complaints. If you have a copy of the confirmation message and the evidence of the response, almost nobody will come back and say, well, that's not good enough. Heck, even spamcop accepts this as proof of signup. If they're complaining about the confirmation message itself, well, then unless they're AOL, they will go away when you explain that it is just a confirmation message. If they're AOL, you lose, because they play by their own rules :-( As for Mailman, I think keeping this kind of record associated with each active email address would be ideal. How to go about implementing that is way beyond me, as I'm more of a perl hack, and know just enough python to know I don't know enough. Has anyone hacked up Mailman to keep such detailed records of signups and confirmations? If not, is anyone looking for consulting work to do so (and a few other mods to Mailman I need)? -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman performance / sends per hour
JS == John Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JS With a dedicated Pentium 4 2GHz / 1 GB RAM server / JS 10Mbs, what sort of performance should be possible JS with Mailman? Sends per hour / max subscribers. I think it depends on your MTA and whether you have personalization on in Mailman (which will increase the number of messages being pumped through). Also, sending mail tends to be disk-bound if you are not network-bound. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Migrating from Lyris to Mailman - Looking forfunctionality and/or workarounds
MF == Miles Fawcett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MF We are in the process of migrating from Lyris to Mailman/Sendmail. We MF are very excited about this migration however we loose some Good move! I did this about 7 months ago and never regretted it. MF - Create virtual servers so Overview of Mailing Lists only include MF lists for a virtual domain This is already in Mailman. The other features probably require some scripting. Also, be very careful when exporting your lyris list -- it tends to just dump your entire list regardless if someone is unsubscribed or set to nomail or any other flag that means don't send mail. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.2 + Apache 2.0.47
DB == Dhruba Bandopadhyay [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DB Has anyone got latest release of mailman working with apache2? If so, DB how? And if not, what problems did you have? When will mailman support DB for apache2 be official? Works just fine. Mailman is just a CGI program as far as apache is concerned, and CGIs work perfectly fine with pretty much any web server you can name. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer message in html email
JB == Jason Buscema [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JB Regardless, I still need to figure out a way to have a personalized footer JB message in an HTML message. Changing the message from HTML to plain text JB isn't an option either. In one of my businesses, we do attempt to attach a signature to the end of an HTML message. Most of the time it works just fine witho our guess as to where to insert it. When it fails, it fails miserably. I believe it has to do with how well the HTML is formed. Here's how we guess where to insert it: 1) look for /body tag. If present, insert footer HTML code just before it. 2) if not present, tack it on to the end of the message. Most of the time when this fails is when someone forgets to close a table properly. Instead of making a nice footer, it usually ends up starting a new column or something funky like that. I have no clue how to make Mailman do something like this, but I can't image it being all that hard once you figure out which function needs to do it. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D.Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer message in html email
CTS == Customer Technical Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: CTS And you cant say that more and more people are NOT getting tired CTS of having the mail they receive all cluttered up with look CTS pretty garbage and less real content. I have a vendor who believes that a 4-point checklist for preparing an upgrade is best distributed as a 40k-byte MS Word document attachment. The world is full of people who don't know any better. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer message in html email
JC == Jon Carnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JC That seems like it would accommodate 99% of the situations discussed JC here. The coding for that would also be fairly straightforward. JC Jon in ignorance Carnes Works some/most of the time. Assumes your HTML is correct, for some value of correct. If your html is not correct, even this simle rule fails miserably. See my other post on this topic. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] So far, I'm very disappointed with Mailman
S == SysAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: S Anyone have a better mailing list tool than Mailman that you can S recommend? I'd like to have something that I don't have to babysit so S much. As much as I hate to do it, I might just have to go back to S Majordomo (it has much better documentation, too). Sigh. I don't baby sit my Mailman. Ever. It just runs and runs. It was trivial to set up (using the FreeBSD ports for both Mailman and Postfix). Lyris was also that way, but it is WY expensive and really not worth the money compared with what you can get with Mailman, IMO. But if you're having trouble setting it up, then perhaps Lyris is worth a look... -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Redirect AOL subscribers
EL == Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: EL alternate server, and let the rest go through as usual? I'm running EL Postfix as my MTA on RedHat Linux 8. Wise move to use postfix. Here's what you should do. Enable transport maps in your main.cf, then add a transport map entry to direct aol.com mail to your alternate server. in main.cf: transport_maps = hash:$config_directory/transport in your postfix directory in the file transport: aol.com smtp:[192.168.100.32] then makemap transport to build the hash file. Obviously, replace the 192.168.100.32 with the IP of your alternate server. The brackets are important! Check the man pages for details. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D.Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] FreeBSD 5.1, Python 2.1.3, Mailman 2.1.2 Install
TL == Tim Legg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: TL and FreeBSD likes to have a redundant file called /etc/master.passwd which TL I added the same: TL mailman:*:501:502:Mailman MLM:/nonexistent:/sbin/nologin TL Apparently there is a problem with this. If you editied the /etc/master.passwd file, you did it the wrong way. These two flat files are just text representations of the real password database. The one, true, way to edit the password database is to use the vipw command. You can also add users using the pw program. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D.Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] FreeBSD 5.1, Python 2.1.3, Mailman 2.1.2 Install
CA == Christopher Allen [BigFatPipe.Net] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: is to use the vipw command. You can also add users using the pw program. CA Actually, editing the /etc/master.passwd then rebuiding the DB is an okay CA route to go. Issuing the command: CA /usr/sbin/pwd_mkdb /etc/master.passwd Don't forget file locking to prevent any other program from editing the user database at the same time... vipw handles that too. Like I said, the one true way is to use vipw (or its relatives). It can even be scripted... -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation woes
DG == Dan Gookin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DG According to the README.BSD I used: DG make DIRGETGID=: install DG But make comes back with: Just skip that whole bit and let it install with setgid. It is less painful to do so. Even though the setgid bit is unnecessary in the BSD file system, it is mostly harmless to be there. The only side effect is that if you have nightly scripts that scan for setuid/setgid file changes, these get picked up sometimes. Also, I think that some other scripts in Mailman now check for setgid and complain and they are not affected by the above option to make. Anyhow, if you're using FreeBSD, just go ahead and use the Mailman port -- that's what I do ;-) -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation woes
DG == Dan Gookin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DG At 1:57 PM -0500 4/2/03, Vivek Khera wrote: Just skip that whole bit and let it install with setgid. DG [snip] ...if you're using FreeBSD, just go ahead and use the Mailman port -- that's what I do ;-) DG You're the man! In the README.BSD file. Wow. Glad to make your acquaintance. DG I did that already, but I'm still having trouble. I cannot get it to DG install from the mailman-2.1.1 directory at all. here's what I do these days on FreeBSD: cd /usr/ports/mail/mailman make install make clean then follow the final configuration steps from the Mailman install instructions to set up your lists. it creates the users and groups as necessary. worked like a charm the first time i tried it two months ago. upgrades work just as easily with the portupgrade utility. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: MX Record?
b == bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In general, an MX record is not necessary if you have an A record. That's probably not your problem here. b Since when?! For transporting mail, you certainly DO need an MX record! Since the beginning of time. You do not *need* an MX record, but if one exists you *must* honor it. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D.Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] RuntimeError: command failed: /usr/sbin/postalias
SMA == Shannon M Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: SMA That was my first thought, I even went as far as making the perms on thoses file a little lighter for testing. SMA -rw-rw-rw-1 mailman mailman 1176 Mar 18 11:07 aliases SMA -rw-rw-rw-1 mailman mailman 12288 Mar 18 10:48 aliases.db yes, but what are the perms on the directory? -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Renaming a list
JF == Jerry Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JF Renaming the list would effectively have the MTA bounce all the SPAMS. JF One way I thought of when composing this email would be to leave JF everything on mailman as it is, and simply change the alias. I did this by renaming the list subdirectory, the archive directories, and then redoing the aliases. last step was to fix_url the url to the list. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] https for admin pages only question
NB == Norbert Bollow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You want to run the admin and admindb cgi's using https, but all the other Mailman cgi's (like listinfo) using http... I don't think you can do that with the current versions, at least not without modifying the code. This does seem like it would be a simple hack to the code though NB I think it shouldn't be too hard to do this using apache's NB RewriteEngine. This will fail violently because the admin pages use POST. Rewriting URLs that are POSTed to will lose the data every time. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D.Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and home pages
RB == Richard Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: is the default homepage for the virtual server. The closest I've come is displaying listinfo as a binary. I'm running redhat 8, apache 2.0.40, and mailman 2.1.1. RB I would try using an Apache mod_rewrite RewriteRule. For instance: RB RewriteRule ^/mailman(|/)$ /mailman/listinfo [PT] This is *exactly* what I have in my http.conf for Apache 2: VirtualHost * ServerName lists.kcilink.com # Mailman list hosting RewriteEngine On RewriteRule ^/$ /mailman/listinfo [R] ScriptAlias /mailman /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin Alias /pipermail /usr/local/mailman/archives/public /VirtualHost -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Postfix *2*?
JB == Jeremy Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JB Does Mailman work well with the recently released (20030112), version *2* JB of Postfix? Yes. However... Postfix' sendmail-style virtual domains are no longer officially documented or supported. Virtual domains are now specified using two postfix config variables: virtual_alias_domains and virtual_alias_maps. In virtual_alias_domains you wan to list the same domains you list in Mailman's POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS variable. virtual_alias_maps is the replacement for virtual_maps as Mailman uses it. Since Mailman doesn't set the postfix 'magic' entry to identify a domain to virtualize in the maps it generates, it is necessary to list them in the virtual_alias_domains variable. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D.Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrade to 2.1
RB == Richard Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: RB I confess I cheat by doing test runs: I installed MM 2.0.13 with all the RB patches I was using on my production MM 2.0.13 system onto my secondary RB server, added some sample lists and then did a trial upgrade to MM 2.1 RB (initially beta). Repeated this until upgrading the test system was RB completely trouble free; then doing the real thing was a non-event. Doing RB this was where I sorted out the fixup scripts I needed, and found the sting What?!?!? You mean you test software and upgrade procedures *before* doing them on a production machine? What are you, some kind of *real* system administrator or something? ;-) -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Full Personalization to Hotmail?
SW == Simon White [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: SW Don't know if this helps, but Hotmail checks headers, and if the hotmail SW address isn't on the To: or CC: line, it goes to the Trash folder. So nobody having a hotmail.com address can receive this list? Sounds too bizarre to be true. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Umbrella List Spam Protection
LaM == Links at Momsview [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: LaM I currently have a VERY large ( 100k) announce only list (always LaM moderated) running mailman 2.1 under Postfix. It seems to me if you turn off personalization, turn off VERP, and turn off anything else that would cause individual messages to be sent, postfix would handle this in the most efficient way given a large number of recipients per message. Making sub-lists would just cause a lot more work, I suspect. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Trapping Out-of-office Messages
WH == Warren Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: WH Is there a way, or can somebody recommend a technique, to trap/delete WH Out-of-office messages. They do have a defined syntax (actually several). No, it is generally impossible because there are so many ways to do it, and there are so many bad programmers out there that do it wrong... And many of them repeat the mistakes of the ones who figured it out before... If you have specific patterns to catch, then do it via procmail or some such before handing it off to mailman. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mass Subscriptions -- HELP
WH == Warren Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
WH 1. We're migrating ~1500 users from Lyris - and half of them have digest
WH specified. We have two files of subscribers - one with digest subscribers
Make sure your lyris export script skips over unsubscribed members...
I almost had a fiasco with that ;-)
WH 2. We'd like to import real names for each user (which we have - in the
WH files we extract from the old system). Is there a way to do this?
Here's the script I used to export my lyris lists. None were using
digests, so I didn't separate the lists. The import will fail if the
real name contains commas, so just scan for that and fix those up
before importing. Mailman parses the names and addresses quite well.
--cut here--
#!/usr/bin/perl
use lib '/opt/lyris/apache/lib';
require 'lyrislib.pl';
lyris::init;
unless ($ARGV[0]) { die syntax:\nperl activemembers.pl listname\n; }
my @Members = lyris::MemberFromList($ARGV[0]);
foreach (@Members) {
my %m = lyris::MemberAttribs($_);
if ($m{MemberType} eq 'normal') {
print $m{FullName} $m{EmailAddr}\n;
}
}
--cut here--
I'm sure you can test the member record for digest or not and select
each category appropriately.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem with listinfo and advertised in global virtual host setup(I did my homework)
SW == Steve Werby [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: SW I recently installed Mailman 2.1 on a machine running Apache 1.3.20. SW Mailman is installed in a central location and made available to all virtual SW sites via an Apache ScriptAlias directive. The lists function properly and SW all are accessible, but are not listed on the listinfo page even though I discovered the hard way that the vhost under which the list will be displayed depends on the url set in the list. unfortunately there's no way to change that URL from the web. you need to use the bin/uri_fix.py (or something like that) script to set the url correctly. Then it finds your site based on the vhost. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] 2.1 / ssl / admin
GS == Gregg Siegfried [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: GS By turning SSL off, requests can be processed as expected. If you redirect a POST using mod_redirect, you lose the data. The workaround is to capture the POST data from the original request, convert it to a GET and redirect to that. But then if you're sending the first request in the clear, what exactly do you gain by redirecting to SSL after all the info just went by cleartext? You need to fix it up so that the page is submitted *directly* to the SSL secured URL. GS I am using the same ssl redirection on a 2.0.10 server, and have had no GS such problems. Perhaps is used a GET on the form? -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] MM doesn't send mail
f == friedrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: f When I create a list, I get the message that the list owner had been f notified of its creation by mail. But nothing shows up in the mail.log file, f and the mail never arrives. Posting to a list doesn't work either. Postfix Did you start the queue runner process with mailmanctl? Sounds like you did not. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D.Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Getting mailman to use the same smtp connectionfor messages sent to the same domain
BAW == Barry A Warsaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BAW SMTP_MAX_SESSIONS_PER_CONNECTION determines how many chunks it sends BAW down the same socket connection to the mta. Again, a negative number BAW means blast all the chunks down the same connection. With postfix, this would be ideal. It has no problems accepting at least 50,000+ individual SMTP transactions per connection. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D.Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] cgi-user / create.py
f == friedrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: f No, running postalias as user www generates a Permission denied error on the aliases f file. Hence my question: should I change the file ownership, it's permissions or is there a f way to run postalias under the user mailman? I just stepped in, but I had this issue with postfix integration as well. make sure the aliases and virtual files are chmod g+w so that they can be updated by mailman. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
