Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibOCon CfL
On 07/01/2012 Florian Effenberger wrote: I have just worked on the Call for Locations, and my extended version is available at http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/CallforLocation I felt free to fix some obvious typos myself http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/index.php?title=Marketing%2FCallforLocationaction=historysubmitdiff=43035oldid=43023 I tried to not demand too much, so in case someone thinks I exaggerate with my requirements, let me know. :-) Actually I would prefer (but maybe it's just a personal preference, motivated by the fact that I had to miss the LibreOffice conference 2011 due to some last-minute changes in my travel schedule) that video recording is made mandatory: live streaming has complex requirements and can remain optional, but video/audio recording facilities (at least at amateur level) should be available to any teams that want to organize a conference. Regards, Andrea. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] website terminology for free software
On 04/08/2011 Florian Effenberger wrote: I've received a request to change two things on our website, regarding terminology: - Instead of solely using open source, I was asked that we should also use free software. - Linux should be referred to as GNU/Linux. Before addressing this, I'd wish that the factual information is right, since the license stated on the English website is just wrong, see http://www.mail-archive.com/website@global.libreoffice.org/msg05211.html (the Italian pages have the right information). Factual errors should be corrected before making any terminology improvements: once the license indication is right, then it's OK to improve the text around it. Regards, Andrea. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] website terminology for free software
Bernhard Dippold wrote: thanks for the reminder, but the topics seem to be quite unrelated to me. Well, to me they are: you can't specify that the license is free software besides being open source (which, to stay on topic, is right and desirable) but at the same time indicate a wrong license. Please repost this request to the website mailing list again - it is not a marketing question. I'd tend to disagree here, it's basic communication about the product. But I pinged the website list again. Factual errors should be corrected before making any terminology improvements: once the license indication is right, then it's OK to improve the text around it. I don't see these topics to be related at all: The community works on different bugs at the same time. Yes, but here we are talking about highlighting the merits of the LibreOffice license and at the same time we are stating the wrong license, so I see them as very strongly related. Anyway, we are free to have different opinions on this minor detail. Please raise awareness on the appropriate list about your license issue (I'm quite sure it just has been overseen in the past) and let others work on the topics of their interest. I had reported it on the right list, and taking care of it would be a precondition (for me) of any license terminology clarification. But I've followed your advice; sorry if anyone was distracted, and if you want to follow the specific issue of the wrong license (it's just about removing two extra words, and it doesn't need a lot of discussion!) you can use the link from my earlier post. Regards, Andrea. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] need to redue the Extensions page on libreplanet.org/wiki
webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote: With Oracle's dropping OOo, the links for the Extensions at http://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:OpenOfficeExtensions/List seem not to work most times. I don't know how many times people had to write it already, and Volker just tried to explain it again, but... despite what most people seem to think, http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/ is NOT hosted by Oracle but by osuosl.org; Thorsten Bosbach sent an update yesterday, please see http://openoffice.org/projects/extensions/lists/websites/archive/2011-05/message/6 and the OSUOSL service ticket id is #18367 (but I actually don't know if tickets are exposed through a web interface). Regards, Andrea. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: Fwd: [libreoffice-marketing] BrOffice product and community will be called LibreOffice
Italo Vignoli wrote: On 04/24/2011 01:13 PM, Riemer Thalen wrote: - Three times I tried to introduce OOo in organisations I that hired me. Three times I failed. Reason number one: OOo/LibO lacks normal view ... There are many examples like this one, of user requests which have been ignored for years by OOo developers. There are indeed examples, this is undeniable. In this specific case, however, the OOo developers spent a significant amount of time to fix preliminary issues, leading to 20,000 lines of code that have been recently committed to OOo (and thus have been, or will be soon, integrated into LibreOffice too), so in this specific case the OOo developers haven't ignored the problem, they just started solving (huge) subproblems. Regards, Andrea. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] reg: Presentation - Introducing LibreOffice
On 23/03/2011 Italo Vignoli wrote: On 3/23/11 12:05 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Italo, both of us perfectly know this. Can you just clarify your previous message and confirm that BOTH OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice are free AND open source software? Yes, in term of license the two products are identical, so they are both free and open source. Thanks Italo for this important clarification: misunderstandings on this matters can be really confusing for users. Regards, Andrea. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] reg: Presentation - Introducing LibreOffice
Italo Vignoli wrote: OpenOffice.org is open source while LibreOffice is free software. The difference is small, but substancial. No, there is no difference between OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice in this respect. OpenOffice.org is open source and free software. LibreOffice is open source and free software too. I see no possible confusion on this, the licenses are absolutely clear. Unless I'm really missing something huge... Regards, Andrea. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] torrentfile for American DVD ISO
On 10/03/2011 webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote: My lungstrom.com domain's testing pages. http://www.lungstrom.com/libreoffice-dvd-project/LibreOffice-disc-North-American-DVD/index.html Of the three Italian dictionaries listed at http://www.lungstrom.com/libreoffice-dvd-project/LibreOffice-disc-North-American-DVD/extensions.html you should keep only #2, which in the latest release supersedes #1. Dictionary #3 adds a Latin dictionary to #1, but Latin is not relevant to Italian at all as far as spell checking is concerned. If you only include #2, users will be less confused and no functionality will be lost. Since dictionaries are listed in different orders elsewhere on that page: the one I'm recommending you keep is http://www.lungstrom.com/libreoffice-dvd-project/LibreOffice-disc-North-American-DVD/add-on-dictionaries-large-list/Italian--dictionary-thesaurus-hyphenation-patternsdict-it.oxt Regards, Andrea. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Starting something like LibreCon
On 14/02/2011 public sector wrote: in my eyes the development of the projects OOo and LO hasn't much split yet and so why aren't we using (if possible) the OOoCon for as a platform for presentation and knowledge transfer. We are a fork but I don't think we are enemies. We also have to think of the costumers the most part of the presentations might be interesting for both LO and OOo Users. I was wondering the same when coming back from FOSDEM and greeting the volunteers who had been serving at the LibreOffice booth with See you at... ?. The OOoCon 2011 organization is still in the hands of Charles Schultz (i.e., a TDF Steering Committee member) as far as I know; at least, he was taking responsibility for it at the end of OOoCon 2010 and I haven't seen any statement from him saying the OOoCon Paris is canceled. Moreover, OOoCon has always been a place to discuss anything related to OpenOffice.org in its broadest meaning (including ODF, including interesting presentations and even keynotes about derived products such as Symphony, RedOffice, Go-OO, NeoOffice, OOo4Kids...), so I don't see anything preventing LibreOffice from being one of the stars at OOoCon 2011. Needless to say, I know nothing about what happened at CeBit; but sharing a booth at a fair seems a totally different issue than the annual family gathering. Regards, Andrea. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO DVD fulfillment web-page
Benjamin Horst wrote: We can take a look at the example of the Drupal community for one successful policy. The Drupal trademark cannot be used by for-profit companies or in their domains, but it is permitted for non-profits and in the domain names of non-profits. I think this has worked well for them, and could provide a good model for LibreOffice as well. It's a good idea, but this policy will require significant adaptations to be useful for LibreOffice: for example, Drupal is not sold on DVDs, and does not share code with similar projects bearing its name (to make it clear: I can envisage someone wanting to build and distribute/sell something called LibreOffice Professional Edition consisting of LibreOffice + extras; this would be done in Drupal in a different way, with installation profiles not containing the Drupal name). The Drupal policy is very complex anyway: http://drupal.com/trademark And moreover, handling requests is quite a burden for Dries Buytaert (the trademark holder), at about 100/year (89 in 11 months): http://buytaert.net/drupal-trademark-policy-update-after-11-months So it's good to have a policy but you have to spend a lot of resources either to create a suitable one (you can use Drupal's as a starting point, but it really needs to be adapted and discussed) or to handle requests. Regards, Andrea. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Templating Teams
Drew Jensen wrote: On Sat, 2010-11-13 at 17:31 +0100, Andrea Pescetti wrote: You should have license and author, and derive it via ODF processing and not enter it with a simple CCK field. Moreover, it should be investigated what kind of commitment the Document Foundation took towards Richard Stallman about nonfree add-ons, see http://www.documentfoundation.org/supporters Well, that is how the OO.o team did it, reading the license out of the properties of the template - but I'm not so sure that is the right way To me, if an ODF Templates repository does not use the ODF possibilities in an optimal way then there is something wrong somewhere: everything should be stored and read from the ODF template itself, so that the template file is self-contained. ODF can do this and this just seems the right solution to me. I use the templates from time to time and have been burned twice by that little feature - cause if you forget to remove it then the document you create retains the original license It's enough to make the field more explicit and call it Template License; this is not a blocker. the final document does not relate any longer to the templates license as far as I an concerned - although other may disagree. I would really like to hear your and other's thoughts on that actually. I tend to have the same opinion as yours (i.e., template license does not affect document license) but I prefer when the template author makes it explicit. Again, this would only be a matter of adding the properties Template License and Derived Documents License when creating the ODF file, and you can have your doubts immediately solved. As for the FSF/ R.S. opinions - not everyone agrees with them as I am sure you are aware. This does not affect my question. I'll restate it. On the Document Foundation site http://www.documentfoundation.org/supporters (NOT the FSF site), one can read: --- FSF President Richard Stallman welcomed LibreOffice release and it's [sic] stated policy of only recommending free software. I'm very pleased that the Document Foundation will not recommend nonfree add-ons... --- so it seems this is a Document Foundation policy, and as such it should affect whatever template repository is set up by the Document Foundation. Of course, I don't know more than what is published there. Regards, Andrea. -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Templating Teams
jonathon wrote: LibO has to offer templates on its own website. There are so many microsoft office templates listed on the template section of the openoffice.org website, that the entire template section has to be treated as a microsoft office template repository. I don't know exactly what template section you refer to, but the official repository for OpenOffice.org templates at http://templates.services.openoffice.org only accepts ODF files; of course, a submitter can advertise other repositories in the description and thus it might happen that some non-ODF files are listed, but there's no way to download a .doc file from http://templates.services.openoffice.org directly. As I wrote elsewhere in this thread, the best (and only?) way to grasp the inner workings of http://templates.services.openoffice.org is uploading a template. The procedure will show you how complex and, in a way, smart the OpenOffice.org Templates site is. Anyone thinking about making a new Templates site should really upload a few templates to http://templates.services.openoffice.org to have an idea: making a new one is feasible, but it's a lot more work than one would imagine at first glance. Regards, Andrea. -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Templating Teams
On 04/11/2010 Marc Paré wrote: Le 2010-11-03 17:42, Andy Brown a écrit : Start here http://templates.services.openoffice.org/ same place for OOo and LibO. There is a link there back to the Extensions repository. Thanks. The obvious question is ... are we going to brand a page and have our own repository? I imagine this is yes. If the answer is yes, then you need much more than just web space for rebuilding the Templates infrastructure. Just try uploading a template on http://templates.services.openoffice.org/ if you don't get what I mean. This will apply to a lot of the infrastructure: if LibreOffice wants to have its own infrastructure for everything (including parts where there is 100% compatibility with OpenOffice.org, like Templates and Extensions) it will have the same complexity of the OpenOffice.org infrastructure, plus the cost of initial import of existing material, plus the cost of periodic synchronization from the OpenOffice.org repository. This is a heavy technical burden that should be evaluated before deciding on a separate repository. Regards, Andrea. -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO in Education (JK-High School and NOT post grad. university/college)
Marc Paré wrote: BTW ... Do you know if OOo4Kids is supporting the LibO project? I merely had a look at what Eric Bachard, ideator of OOo4Kids, wrote. Of course, I cannot speak for OOo4Kids and I am not an active member of the OOo Education project. On 28 September he posted a short No LibreOffice for me statement that seems removed now; it was supposed to live at (URL includes ellipsis) http://eric.bachard.org/news/index.php?post/2010/09/28/No-LibreInfo-for-me-... Then I remember seeing an article about EducOOo aiming at being agnostic with respect to OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice but I can't find it now. Regards, Andrea. -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO in Academia
Jon Hamkins wrote: 1. Export to LaTeX*. Support for LaTeX in OOo was limited to the OOoLaTeX extension, which allows one to interface to a TeX engine by typing an equation in LaTeX-style, calling the TeX engine, and inserting a PNG of the typeset result into the OOo document. We used to have built-in LaTeX export from within OOo Writer, with decent results; then the component (which, if I recall correctly, was named Writer2LaTeX or similar) was moved back to a stand-alone project and removed from OOo. I never tested this on math formulas, I just tested it on basic Writer documents. then LibO could become like LyX, a GUI for LaTeX, but better. While we do have a formula editor and basic tools, it would be rather hard to build a LaTeX export that can work the LaTeX way, much like the HTML export suffers from unavoidable artificial conversions. Regards, Andrea Pescetti. -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
