Re: [MBZ] Experiment - Raising Injector pressure
I dont think they were staring at your car because it was macho Steve MacSween wrote: I can attest to this from experience. I pulled my OM617 injectors about 12 months after I purchased my SD, and after reinstalling them and firing up the car I almost collapsed from fright at the noise. I was working in a confined space with bare concrete walls and it sounded like I had swapped in a Ford Powerstroke. Took about 200 miles for them to settle into a more reasonable tone, though it was always a bit louder than it had been before. Actually, however, it was sort of a macho trip to ride around town with people staring at your car at stoplights. It was *that* loud for a few days. mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: New nozzles, in a high compression engine (as in factory new spec.) Will make a very crisp, clean noise at idle. Softer idle sound comes when the nozzles get worn, and the spray pattern is not as sharp and the pressure gets lower, and the compression gets lower. ~200-300k in most cases. 150k or so on most OM 621 engines. Your mileage may vary. I highly recommend nozzle testing and adjustment or replacement. At 09:57 PM 8/10/2005, you wrote: I have just tried increasing the injector popping presuure in my 300D 617. It runs but now is very loud at idle, quiets down as it comes off idle but still more noise than before. Sounds almost like the cummins diesel at idle. The exhaust seems cleaner than before, smells less pungent. Question is, will this damage the engine? How much pressure is safe? I need to presure test my experimental injectors and find out what I am dealing with.. -Dan ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Special
that is new, not rebuilt? Holy crap, that is CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP. Rusty Cullens wrote: Brand new R4 a/c compressor for your W123 or W126 diesel $150.00 Brand new drier to go with it $31.00 Jump on it quick, this won't last long. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. 1-800-741-5252 ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Special
no, that uses the A6 OK Don wrote: Same for a 107? On 8/11/05, Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brand new R4 a/c compressor for your W123 or W126 diesel $150.00 Brand new drier to go with it $31.00 Jump on it quick, this won't last long. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. 1-800-741-5252 ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com http://www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com http://www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] clogged radiator?
On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 06:06:26PM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: On my 85 300D, I noticed today that while idling, if you rev engine up to about 2-3K the coolant in overflow tank goes down, sometimes near the bottom. As soon as you let off of it and return to idle, the coolant rapidly flows back up to the very top of the tank then stabilized back down I guess near the fill line. Does this seem like a plugged radiator maybe? Depends if your 617 has a pressurized overflow tank or not, don't remember if the turbos did or not. My brother's 78 feeds through the top like american iron, but my 60x's feed through the bottom hose. Your situation is possible for a tank that feeds into the bottom hose. The radiator is probably not completely plugged, but has a few rods clogged or kinked. I know you have a spare 123 radiator in your yard... K
Re: [MBZ] clogged radiator?
Yes, its pressurized. I did notice though when it flows back up to the top I get a stream of coolant out of a tiny hole where the seam is. So I need to replace the tank. This radiator was out of my wagon that I just put the engine in. I needed a radiator to throw in this car and just used that one while the engine was out. Not sure if I have another turbo radiator laying around, will have to check.. Might try a different one just to see. Kevin wrote: On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 06:06:26PM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: On my 85 300D, I noticed today that while idling, if you rev engine up to about 2-3K the coolant in overflow tank goes down, sometimes near the bottom. As soon as you let off of it and return to idle, the coolant rapidly flows back up to the very top of the tank then stabilized back down I guess near the fill line. Does this seem like a plugged radiator maybe? Depends if your 617 has a pressurized overflow tank or not, don't remember if the turbos did or not. My brother's 78 feeds through the top like american iron, but my 60x's feed through the bottom hose. Your situation is possible for a tank that feeds into the bottom hose. The radiator is probably not completely plugged, but has a few rods clogged or kinked. I know you have a spare 123 radiator in your yard... K ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] W124 A/C question - compressor cuts off too soon?
Bingo, Joe. In parallel on B10/6, in the left side of the heater box, pretty close to the ignition/steering lock. I would test your vent temps first... if 50-ish, go with the 80-85k shunt, if it's already in the mid- to low-40's then try the 90k shunt. As long as you stay over 36-38F min vent temps (after the mod) things should be fine. I'd be nervous below that. With 65F ambients this morning I saw as low as 37-38°F vent temps, which IMO is perfect. :-) -dm -- Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 15:30:58 -0700 From: Joe Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 A/C question - compressor cuts off too soon? So, humor me will ya? The shunt being referred to is across the leads to the evaporator temp sensor, B10/6, located under the r/s of the steering column? Am I sort of in the ballpark? And Spud, the resistors are in parallel, correctimundo? joe
Re: [MBZ] FS: New R-134a hoses for manifold gauge
I also got a set of adapters for my r12 gauges/hoses. Cost me about $35. Royce Engler 1985 300TD Turbo 265K -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joe Knight Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 2:05 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] FS: New R-134a hoses for manifold gauge I got a set of adaptors for my R12 gauges/hoses. Think I even used 'em once to confirm that there was no refrigerant in the albatross. Don't remember offhand where I got them (online, I'm sure) but I think I got them in the same order with a MasterCool side can tap. They're quick connect to the R-134 service fittings. joe ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] clogged radiator?
I've got a turbo radiator you can have.for a nominal fee. -Original Message- From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Aug 11, 2005 6:25 PM To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] clogged radiator? Yes, its pressurized. I did notice though when it flows back up to the top I get a stream of coolant out of a tiny hole where the seam is. So I need to replace the tank. This radiator was out of my wagon that I just put the engine in. I needed a radiator to throw in this car and just used that one while the engine was out. Not sure if I have another turbo radiator laying around, will have to check.. Might try a different one just to see. Kevin wrote: On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 06:06:26PM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: On my 85 300D, I noticed today that while idling, if you rev engine up to about 2-3K the coolant in overflow tank goes down, sometimes near the bottom. As soon as you let off of it and return to idle, the coolant rapidly flows back up to the very top of the tank then stabilized back down I guess near the fill line. Does this seem like a plugged radiator maybe? Depends if your 617 has a pressurized overflow tank or not, don't remember if the turbos did or not. My brother's 78 feeds through the top like american iron, but my 60x's feed through the bottom hose. Your situation is possible for a tank that feeds into the bottom hose. The radiator is probably not completely plugged, but has a few rods clogged or kinked. I know you have a spare 123 radiator in your yard... K ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix) '82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi
Re: [MBZ] clogged radiator?
I've got a turbo radiator you can have.for a nominal fee. -Original Message- From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Aug 11, 2005 6:25 PM To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] clogged radiator? Yes, its pressurized. I did notice though when it flows back up to the top I get a stream of coolant out of a tiny hole where the seam is. So I need to replace the tank. This radiator was out of my wagon that I just put the engine in. I needed a radiator to throw in this car and just used that one while the engine was out. Not sure if I have another turbo radiator laying around, will have to check.. Might try a different one just to see. Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix) '82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi
Re: [MBZ] clogged radiator?
oh yea, well I believe we might be doing all kinds of business this weekend. Luther Gulseth wrote: I've got a turbo radiator you can have.for a nominal fee. -Original Message- From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Aug 11, 2005 6:25 PM To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] clogged radiator? Yes, its pressurized. I did notice though when it flows back up to the top I get a stream of coolant out of a tiny hole where the seam is. So I need to replace the tank. This radiator was out of my wagon that I just put the engine in. I needed a radiator to throw in this car and just used that one while the engine was out. Not sure if I have another turbo radiator laying around, will have to check.. Might try a different one just to see. Kevin wrote: On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 06:06:26PM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: On my 85 300D, I noticed today that while idling, if you rev engine up to about 2-3K the coolant in overflow tank goes down, sometimes near the bottom. As soon as you let off of it and return to idle, the coolant rapidly flows back up to the very top of the tank then stabilized back down I guess near the fill line. Does this seem like a plugged radiator maybe? Depends if your 617 has a pressurized overflow tank or not, don't remember if the turbos did or not. My brother's 78 feeds through the top like american iron, but my 60x's feed through the bottom hose. Your situation is possible for a tank that feeds into the bottom hose. The radiator is probably not completely plugged, but has a few rods clogged or kinked. I know you have a spare 123 radiator in your yard... K ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
[MBZ] Anti squeal paste
Perhaps I should ask Rusty. But maybe someone can tell me yet tonight I got from Rusty a pair of ATE rebuilt rear brake calipers for my 124. They are preassembled including pads. Do these assembled things usally have the backs of the pads already lubed up with that anti-squeal paste? I don't want to risk screwing something up by taking them apart if I don't need to. Thanks, Ned Kleinhenz '95 E300D - copy #1, now getting new brakes
Re: [MBZ] 126 STABILIZER FAILURE
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, not safe, but certainly doable. I certainly wouldn't do it unless it was the only means to get myself and the car home, where the car would then be parked until I either parted the car or repaired it - with a preference towards the former. If the stabilizer bar is broken at the end, someone else fabricated this fix: http://landiss.info/mbz/small%20swaybar%20large.jpg -- -- Never argue with a dragon, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
[MBZ] 190D turbo
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-Series-1997-MERCEDES-190D-TURBO-DIESEL_W0QQitemZ4566885730QQcategoryZ6328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Rear axle R R
Finished the installation of my rear axle this week with parts from Rusty. Job went well, just tool longer than an hour as I had to replace the parking brake pads and the fuel line coming out of the tank. All the parts were about $165.00, with the free shipping. Thanks to Kaleb for advice and for Rusty's great service on getting me the parts. Steve Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 20:32:22 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, here is the quick version of what to do: GREAT writeup, Kaleb! Yup, that's exactly what I did in changing the half-shafts on my 240D/3.0. __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp
[MBZ] 126 STABILIZER FAILURE--UNHITCH THE OTHER END METHOD
Thanks again, everyone who has contributed ideas, suggestions, and wisdom. Jim, that was my first thought. Exactly. But, the car pulls to the left when braking now, rather dramatically, and did not do so at all before the break. I assume because the sway bar, perhaps unlike those on other cars, helps keep the suspension geometry the way it should be. I had assumed, without really thinking about it, that if I unhitched the other side BOTH sides would be compromised and out of whack. But perhaps not--perhaps the problem is simply that it's attached on one side and not on the other, and if both sides were disconnected, everything would be fine. Looks like I'm probably out nothing by trying the disconnect approach. Thanks to you, I'm now I'm thinking of unhitching the other side, cutting off the ends, and driving wooden wedges in to keep what remains from rattling around. I looked for, and did notice, more body roll on turns after the break, but could live with that much more easily than I could parting out an otherwise very fine car. Before I get out the wrench and the cutting wheel, anyone else care to weigh in? What I DON'T want to do is cut loose a major and essential element of the front suspension and find out so while, say, braking hard and watching an entire front subframe, wheel, and tire slew out or fall off. I know on old detroit iron, sway bars were often simply a bolt-on option. I am sure such is not the case on a 126, and wonder if perhaps they were engineered in as an essential part. Anyone know? Dan In a message dated 8/11/2005 6:58:32 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yeah. Sorry to hear it. This car is used almost exclusively for long business trips--1500 miles a week for two weeks out is pretty typical. While I'm gone, I'm virtually living in the car 14 hours a day, doing a combination of long highway runs and then driving around various locations doing photography. It has to be reliable. Looks like I've hit on one of the few fatal flaws that will ground an otherwise very, very nice 126 for life. Rats! :-( Dan, and all, IN my opinion, a broken front sway bar does not ground a car at all, just disconnect the other end and push it up out of the way. The car may lean a little more on turns but will actually turn in quicker without the front bar. Over steer is what it is called and manufacturers try to avoid that on all but the most aggressive sports cars (such as 911 Porsche, etc). With oversteer, you can drive hard into a corner and eventually the back end will come around the front, ala Porche 911. Understeering cars start to plow straight ahead, when driven hard into a corner, so the sensible driver lets off the gas and the car turns again! Driven sensibly, I doubt if you'll even know it's gone. I do not believe the stabilizer bar adds any structural integrity to the front suspension so safety is hardly an issue. Many millions of cars were produced without stabilizer bars at either end. Try it, you may like it! Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 261 K miles 98 ML 320, 137 K miles -- Dan Weeks Freelance Writing and Photography 515/279-4825 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] 126 STABILIZER FAILURE--UPDATE/Opinion/ Correct me if I'mwrong!
Yes--that's what it felt like to me, too. And yes, the 126 bar does appear to hold the upper control arm in position on my 126. Dan On my 123 coupe the stabilizer holds the upper control arms in position. Without it, the camber/caster changes continuously. I drove it a little while like that, and it was not much fun and certainly NOT SAFE. For me changing it was about a 20 hour job. IIRC, the 126 chassis has the stabilizer bar between two firewalls and not only does everything have to come off of the firewall, the firewall itself has to be removed... ugh. Rick Knoble 1985 300 CD -- Dan Weeks Freelance Writing and Photography 515/279-4825 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] clogged radiator?
Call ArkieParts On 8/11/05, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got a turbo radiator you can have.for a nominal fee. -Original Message- From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Aug 11, 2005 6:25 PM To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] clogged radiator? Yes, its pressurized. I did notice though when it flows back up to the top I get a stream of coolant out of a tiny hole where the seam is. So I need to replace the tank. This radiator was out of my wagon that I just put the engine in. I needed a radiator to throw in this car and just used that one while the engine was out. Not sure if I have another turbo radiator laying around, will have to check.. Might try a different one just to see. Kevin wrote: On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 06:06:26PM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: On my 85 300D, I noticed today that while idling, if you rev engine up to about 2-3K the coolant in overflow tank goes down, sometimes near the bottom. As soon as you let off of it and return to idle, the coolant rapidly flows back up to the very top of the tank then stabilized back down I guess near the fill line. Does this seem like a plugged radiator maybe? Depends if your 617 has a pressurized overflow tank or not, don't remember if the turbos did or not. My brother's 78 feeds through the top like american iron, but my 60x's feed through the bottom hose. Your situation is possible for a tank that feeds into the bottom hose. The radiator is probably not completely plugged, but has a few rods clogged or kinked. I know you have a spare 123 radiator in your yard... K ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix) '82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.
Re: [MBZ] R-12
I've gotta say, I've pulled an indicated 30 with my Harbor Freight venturi pump. My gauge was actually pegged. I've heard bad things about the venturi's, but for $15 (and $10 if you get it on sale like me :) ) its fine. Now, the caveats - I was using shop air with some insane amount of CFM of flow at 90 PSI. My lame little 2.7CFM compressor only pulls it to 15 or so. I'm also at sea level for what its worth. Tjohn 82 300 SD On 8/8/05, Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe, On a side note, all this discussion about pulling less than 29 vacuum to me seems absurd... if you want the system evacuated properly with as much moisture as possible boiled out, you're not going to get that with a venturi pump (27-28 max)(snip)
Re: [MBZ] clogged radiator?
A clogged radiator won't cause the coolant to compress! I suspect you have considerable air in there, try bleeding it again. None of my cars exhibit any such behavior. Peter
Re: [MBZ] clogged radiator?
Kaleb, it's not LAYing around, it's LYing around. And when you recline, you LIE down, not LAY down, as all the yoga and pilates instructors say. Sorry for being such a twit but this is one of my pet peeves... Only 5 percent of the populace knows the difference beween lay and lie. I guesss you have to be a baby boomer... On 8/11/05, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A clogged radiator won't cause the coolant to compress! I suspect you have considerable air in there, try bleeding it again. None of my cars exhibit any such behavior. Peter ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] clogged radiator?
There are some of us who would be happy just to get laid. Royce Engler 1985 300TD Turbo 265K -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 9:44 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] clogged radiator? Kaleb, it's not LAYing around, it's LYing around. And when you recline, you LIE down, not LAY down, as all the yoga and pilates instructors say. Sorry for being such a twit but this is one of my pet peeves... Only 5 percent of the populace knows the difference beween lay and lie. I guesss you have to be a baby boomer... On 8/11/05, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A clogged radiator won't cause the coolant to compress! I suspect you have considerable air in there, try bleeding it again. None of my cars exhibit any such behavior. Peter ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Anti squeal paste
On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 19:47:17 -0400 ned kleinhenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps I should ask Rusty. But maybe someone can tell me yet tonight I got from Rusty a pair of ATE rebuilt rear brake calipers for my 124. They are preassembled including pads. Do these assembled things usally have the backs of the pads already lubed up with that anti-squeal paste? I don't want to risk screwing something up by taking them apart if I don't need to. Whatever you do, DO NOT take the calipers apart. With the removal of some pins, the pads should slide out (if they're anything like a W123's). Craig
Re: [MBZ] clogged radiator?
Kaleb, it's not LAYing around, it's LYing around. And when you recline, you LIE down, not LAY down, as all the yoga and pilates instructors say. Sorry for being such a twit but this is one of my pet peeves... Only 5 percent of the populace knows the difference beween lay and lie. I guesss you have to be a baby boomer... andrew...andru...andrehw...take a big breath...and breathe... any good student of the language watches it change, despite the rules...and almost everyone nos that kalb in okidum is on of the imnovatrors...i men reley...where du yu cum off with speling ruls on this list???!!!
Re: [MBZ] clogged radiator?
How's the veal? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are some of us who would be happy just to get laid. Royce Engler 1985 300TD Turbo 265K -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 9:44 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] clogged radiator? Kaleb, it's not LAYing around, it's LYing around. And when you recline, you LIE down, not LAY down, as all the yoga and pilates instructors say. Sorry for being such a twit but this is one of my pet peeves... Only 5 percent of the populace knows the difference beween lay and lie. I guesss you have to be a baby boomer... On 8/11/05, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A clogged radiator won't cause the coolant to compress! I suspect you have considerable air in there, try bleeding it again. None of my cars exhibit any such behavior. Peter
Re: [MBZ] Anti squeal paste
Should be ready to go, just install. You only need to pull the pads to put anitsqueal paste (aka antisieze) on them anyway. Peter
[MBZ] Need guidance on an engine or driveline swap, w123 240d
I am considering an engine swap in my recently acquired 1982 240d automatic. My issue is that I don't want a 50-hp automatic. Shifting manually just does not cut it, day in day out for me... had to do that with a clapped out, no-compression SD for two weeks that I had on loan once, got on my nerves really quick. My choices are: 1. install engine and manual gearbox (4 spd) from a rusty 240d parts car at a local shop, just swap drivelines complete, however the rusty car has 2x mileage of my car. OR 2. install OM617 from a parts car. Question: I assume the automatic transmissions are not the same? (If they are, I am over the moon as my 240d has a 2-yr-old dealer reman tranny.) OR 3. install OM617 with the 4 spd... this just hit me this moment, as I was typing. (Can this be done? Is this the 4-spd also used in the six-cylinder cars?) I would appreciate comments and direction. I want to get this thing on the road within a few weeks as my current daily driver has to come off the road pronto for major attention. Thanks Mac Steve MacSween Aylmer, Quebec '60 220s / '82 240d / '82 300sd (bucket-o-rust) '75 Volvo 164e / '88 Volvo 245
Re: [MBZ] Need guidance on an engine or driveline swap, w123 240d
Easiest is the plain swap for manny tranny and 615. Putting the 617 in is more complicated, as you need different front springs and a different drive shaft -- at least the front half. Tranny will bolt right up, linkage will work, etc, but the driveshaft is shorter, probably have a hard time finding one (although the 615 auto driveshaft may fit the 617 manny tranny). Peter
Re: [MBZ] Need guidance on an engine or driveline swap, w123 240d
Steve MacSween wrote: 1. install engine and manual gearbox (4 spd) from a rusty 240d parts car at a local shop, just swap drivelines complete, however the rusty car has 2x mileage of my car. Easiest. 2. install OM617 from a parts car. Question: I assume the automatic transmissions are not the same? (If they are, I am over the moon as my 240d has a 2-yr-old dealer reman tranny.) Not quite as easy. 3. install OM617 with the 4 spd... this just hit me this moment, as I was typing. (Can this be done? Is this the 4-spd also used in the six-cylinder cars?) Hardest. Need more hard-to-find parts for the swap, or re$ort to cu$tom fabrication. Ask me how I know, because I've accumulated everything but the time to make our 300TD a manny car. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi 1980 300TD 168+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi
Re: [MBZ] FS: New R-134a hoses for manifold gauge
Think we're talking apples oranges here... adapters to connect R-12 hoses to an R-134a system won't help me. The female threaded fitting on the R-134a hoses looks the same, but it is larger than on R-12 hoses. Guess they're off to eBay when I have a chance... -dm -- Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 18:32:22 -0500 From: Royce Engler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] FS: New R-134a hoses for manifold gauge I also got a set of adapters for my r12 gauges/hoses. Cost me about $35. Royce Engler 1985 300TD Turbo 265K
Re: [MBZ] Need guidance on an engine or driveline swap, w123 240d
Peter Frederick wrote: Putting the 617 in is more complicated, as you need different front springs and a different drive shaft -- at least the front half. Tranny will bolt right up, linkage will work, etc, but the driveshaft is shorter, probably have a hard time finding one (although the 615 auto driveshaft may fit the 617 manny tranny). Don't need to bother with springs much, just maybe spring spacers down the line for a proper conversion. Front halfshaft is different, shifter linkages are different, transmission crossmember is different (though, same crossmember as 240D auto), and auto driveshaft will not work. The 617 manny flywheel is different too, but some folks have used the 616 manny flywheel with no problems - longevity is still up in the air, though. The 5-banger was factory balanced differently than the 4, which explains some of it. Toss in driveshaft rebalancing, pulling dash to install pedal cluster, etc, it's not an easy swap, but doable. Figure a week in a well-equipped shop to do the swap, and another week to sort out niggling issues. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi 1980 300TD 168+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi
Re: [MBZ] 126 STABILIZER FIX (WAS FAILURE)
WOW! A photo of a real repair to emulate! COOL! Where did this come from? How can I contact the wizard who accomplished it for more details? I've already printed the pic to show my indy, but the more info I could supply him, the better! Thanks, Mr. Landiss! The Other Dan If the stabilizer bar is broken at the end, someone else fabricated this fix: http://landiss.info/mbz/small%20swaybar%20large.jpg -- -- Never argue with a dragon, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. -- Dan Weeks Freelance Writing and Photography 515/279-4825 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] W124 A/C question - compressor cuts off too soon?
Dave, What is the chance that the recirc flap is not closing all the way allowing 100% outside air. This would hurt the effectiveness of the system for sure. Also what about a possibly dirty evap. Doesn't the recirc flap at least partially engage anytime the A/C is on - or maybe the source was incorrect. I know on my white car that was an issue because it always sucked outside air. Brian
Re: [MBZ] Special
$300.00 for the A6's -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 6:02 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Special Same for a 107? On 8/11/05, Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brand new R4 a/c compressor for your W123 or W126 diesel $150.00 Brand new drier to go with it $31.00 Jump on it quick, this won't last long. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. 1-800-741-5252 ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC
Re: [MBZ] Special
No, no ,no, I have 40 of these. They are brand new. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LT Don Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 6:08 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Special Would this by any chance be from a black 240D stick? On 8/11/05, Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brand new R4 a/c compressor for your W123 or W126 diesel $150.00 Brand new drier to go with it $31.00 Jump on it quick, this won't last long. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. 1-800-741-5252 ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] clogged radiator?
In fact I believe it was Mark Twain who said he didn't have any use for a person who could only spell a word one way. When I first saw Andrew's post my first thought was that President Clinton got Laid and later Lied about it. Good way to remember the difference. -Curt Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 20:19:43 -0700 From: JJJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] clogged radiator? To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Kaleb, it's not LAYing around, it's LYing around. And when you recline, you LIE down, not LAY down, as all the yoga and pilates instructors say. Sorry for being such a twit but this is one of my pet peeves... Only 5 percent of the populace knows the difference beween lay and lie. I guesss you have to be a baby boomer... andrew...andru...andrehw...take a big breath...and breathe... any good student of the language watches it change, despite the rules...and almost everyone nos that kalb in okidum is on of the imnovatrors...i men reley...where du yu cum off with speling ruls on this list???!!! - Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page
[MBZ] 126 STABILIZER FIX (WAS FAILURE)
Dan Weeks, that stabilizer repair was posted some time back by a subscriber to the mbcoupes list: http://pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/mbcoupes. I don't remember who, but the link above includes archives. The search feature on the archives is not that good, it might be easier to just join the list and ask. -- Never argue with a dragon, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
Re: [MBZ] clogged radiator?
COMPLETELY OT Speaking of presidents getting l**d (or not, depending on what l**d means), one of the funniest parodies I've ever read is this year's winning entry in the 2005 Hemisphere Magazine Faux Faulkner competition. It's so good I copied it below in its entirety: 2005 FAUX FAULKNER WINNER The Administration and the Fury If William Faulkner were writing on the Bush White House By Sam Apple Down the hall, under the chandelier, I could see them talking. They were walking toward me and Dick's face was white, and he stopped and gave a piece of paper to Rummy, and Rummy looked at the piece of paper and shook his head. He gave the paper back to Dick and Dick shook his head. They disappeared and then they were standing right next to me. Georgie's going to walk down to the Oval Office with me, Dick said. I just hope you got him all good and ready this time, Rummy said. Hush now, Dick said. This ain't no laughing matter. He know lot more than folks think. Dick patted me on the back good and hard. Come on now, Georgie, Dick said. Never mind you, Rummy. We walked down steps to the office. There were paintings of old people on the walls and the room was round like a circle and Condi was sitting on my desk. Her legs were crossed. Did you get him ready for the press conference? Dick said. Don't you worry about him. He'll be ready, Condi said. Condi stood up from the desk. Her legs were long and she smelled like the Xeroxed copies of the information packets they give me each day. Hello Georgie, Condi said. Did you come to see Condi? Condi rubbed my hair and it tickled. Don't go messing up his hair, Dick said. He's got a press conference in a few minutes. Condi wiped some spit on her hand and patted down my hair. Her hand was soft and she smelled like Xerox copies coming right out of the machine. He looks just fine, Condi said. Fine day, isn't it, Georgie, Daddy said. Daddy was pitching horseshoes. Horseshoes flew through the air and it was hot. Jeb looked at me. Stand back or one of his horseshoes is going to hit you and knock you down real good, Jeb said. Jeb threw the horseshoe and it went right over the stick and Daddy clapped. Run and get me that horseshoe, Georgie, Daddy said. I ran and picked up the horseshoe. The metal was hot in my hands, and I held it for a little bit and then I dropped it. I picked it up. It was hot in my hands and I started running away from Daddy and Jeb. Come back with that horseshoe, Daddy said. I was running as fast as I could. Jeb run after him and get me my horseshoe before he throws another one in the river, Daddy hollered. Jeb was chasing after me fast. Come back with that horseshoe, Georgie, Jeb hollered. But I was fast and I kept running until I got to the river. Dont you dare throw that horseshoe in the river, Jeb said. I threw the horseshoe in the river. Jeb fell on the ground. Jeb kicked and cried and then I cried. He needs his makeup, Dick said. I'll do it, Condi said. She put a little brush on my check and it tickled and I laughed. Rummy walked into the room. Jesus, what s he laughing about, Rummy said. Don't you pay attention to him, Georgie, Dick said. They're going to be asking you all about Social Security. You just remember what we talked about. He can't remember anything, Rummy said. I started to holler. Dick's face was red and he looked at Rummy. I told you to hush up already, Dick said. Now look what you've gone and done. Go and get him Saddam's gun, Condi said. You know how he likes to hold it. Dick went to my desk drawer and took out Saddam's gun. He gave it to me, and it was hot in my hands. Rummy pulled the gun away. Do you want him carrying a gun into the press conference? Rummy said. Can't you think any better than he can? I was hollering and Dick was turning red and then white and the room was tilted. You give him that gun back, right this minute, Condi said. Rummy gave me Saddam's gun back and I held it my hands. It was hot like a horseshoe. You got the gun, now you stop that hollering, Rummy said. Condi patted me on the back. It sure is hot in here, she said. She fanned herself and took off her jacket. She smelled like perfume. -30- On 8/12/05, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In fact I believe it was Mark Twain who said he didn't have any use for a person who could only spell a word one way. When I first saw Andrew's post my first thought was that President Clinton got Laid and later Lied about it. Good way to remember the difference. -Curt Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 20:19:43 -0700 From: JJJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] clogged radiator? To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Kaleb, it's not LAYing around, it's LYing around. And when you recline, you LIE down, not LAY down, as all the yoga and pilates instructors say. Sorry for being such a twit but this is one
Re: [MBZ] Blower motor 350SDL
Blower motor isn't listed separate from the fan in the epc, Constantine, and there's no indication the part has been upgraded since production began. Guess you sourced your new one outside the dealer network. joe On 8/9/05, Constantine N. Polites [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just received a new Bosch motor for the blower housing. For some reason it is 2 mm shorter than the original Bosch. With this version you can not install the original lock washer, as when the shaft protruded 2mm out of the fan. Did Bosch find that the lock washer was unnecessary and shortened the shaft or is there another model designed to protrude the 2 mm as the original? My original Bosch motor was 0 130 111 017. The replacement which I presently have ( which is 2 mm shorter- and has Only all 126) is 0 130 111 001.
Re: [MBZ] 126 STABILIZER FIX (WAS FAILURE)
Steve MacSween wrote: I would wonder what the sleeve is/was, and what it's made of. ...or how long it will last when the 3/4 solid stock inside the sleeve has already snapped from the stress! Same basic problem with sleeving broken seat springs - the sleeved joint fails because it's not as strong as the solid piece that has already broken! Still - that's a very workmanlike job - nice piece of craftsmanship! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm
Re: [MBZ] OT Faulkner...was clogged radiator?
Wasn't someone whining a few days ago about no kulture in the South? My son went to Ole Miss, and on one of our trips to Oxford, MS, we took a tour of Faulkner's house. Lotsa famous folks from Ole Miss... Royce Engler (Native Houstonian) 1985 300TD Turbo 265K -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 9:05 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] clogged radiator? COMPLETELY OT Speaking of presidents getting l**d (or not, depending on what l**d means), one of the funniest parodies I've ever read is this year's winning entry in the 2005 Hemisphere Magazine Faux Faulkner competition. It's so good I copied it below in its entirety: 2005 FAUX FAULKNER WINNER The Administration and the Fury If William Faulkner were writing on the Bush White House By Sam Apple Down the hall, under the chandelier, I could see them talking. They were walking toward me and Dick's face was white, and he stopped and gave a piece of paper to Rummy, and Rummy looked at the piece of paper and shook his head. He gave the paper back to Dick and Dick shook his head. They disappeared and then they were standing right next to me. Georgie's going to walk down to the Oval Office with me, Dick said. I just hope you got him all good and ready this time, Rummy said. Hush now, Dick said. This ain't no laughing matter. He know lot more than folks think. Dick patted me on the back good and hard. Come on now, Georgie, Dick said. Never mind you, Rummy. We walked down steps to the office. There were paintings of old people on the walls and the room was round like a circle and Condi was sitting on my desk. Her legs were crossed. Did you get him ready for the press conference? Dick said. Don't you worry about him. He'll be ready, Condi said. Condi stood up from the desk. Her legs were long and she smelled like the Xeroxed copies of the information packets they give me each day. Hello Georgie, Condi said. Did you come to see Condi? Condi rubbed my hair and it tickled. Don't go messing up his hair, Dick said. He's got a press conference in a few minutes. Condi wiped some spit on her hand and patted down my hair. Her hand was soft and she smelled like Xerox copies coming right out of the machine. He looks just fine, Condi said. Fine day, isn't it, Georgie, Daddy said. Daddy was pitching horseshoes. Horseshoes flew through the air and it was hot. Jeb looked at me. Stand back or one of his horseshoes is going to hit you and knock you down real good, Jeb said. Jeb threw the horseshoe and it went right over the stick and Daddy clapped. Run and get me that horseshoe, Georgie, Daddy said. I ran and picked up the horseshoe. The metal was hot in my hands, and I held it for a little bit and then I dropped it. I picked it up. It was hot in my hands and I started running away from Daddy and Jeb. Come back with that horseshoe, Daddy said. I was running as fast as I could. Jeb run after him and get me my horseshoe before he throws another one in the river, Daddy hollered. Jeb was chasing after me fast. Come back with that horseshoe, Georgie, Jeb hollered. But I was fast and I kept running until I got to the river. Dont you dare throw that horseshoe in the river, Jeb said. I threw the horseshoe in the river. Jeb fell on the ground. Jeb kicked and cried and then I cried. He needs his makeup, Dick said. I'll do it, Condi said. She put a little brush on my check and it tickled and I laughed. Rummy walked into the room. Jesus, what s he laughing about, Rummy said. Don't you pay attention to him, Georgie, Dick said. They're going to be asking you all about Social Security. You just remember what we talked about. He can't remember anything, Rummy said. I started to holler. Dick's face was red and he looked at Rummy. I told you to hush up already, Dick said. Now look what you've gone and done. Go and get him Saddam's gun, Condi said. You know how he likes to hold it. Dick went to my desk drawer and took out Saddam's gun. He gave it to me, and it was hot in my hands. Rummy pulled the gun away. Do you want him carrying a gun into the press conference? Rummy said. Can't you think any better than he can? I was hollering and Dick was turning red and then white and the room was tilted. You give him that gun back, right this minute, Condi said. Rummy gave me Saddam's gun back and I held it my hands. It was hot like a horseshoe. You got the gun, now you stop that hollering, Rummy said. Condi patted me on the back. It sure is hot in here, she said. She fanned herself and took off her jacket. She smelled like perfume. -30- On 8/12/05, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In fact I believe it was Mark Twain who said he didn't have any use for a person who could only spell a word one way. When I first saw Andrew's post my first thought was that President Clinton got Laid and later Lied about it. Good way to remember the difference. -Curt
Re: [MBZ] 126 STABILIZER FAILURE--UPDATE
Bob, Bare in mind that a 123 sway bar replacement is a far sight easier than a 126. I had one of the end bolts break off inside the sway bar on my 123. After breaking off an easy-out trying to pull it, I gave up and bit the bullet. I had heard this was a tough job, but if I had realized just how easy it is, I wouldn't have spent hours trying to pull the broken screw. Ran down to the salvage yard and found a 123 with engine removed to practice on. Pulling the replacement first gave me a good idea of what I'd need to do to get the broken one RnR'ed. Took all of 20 minutes to pull the bar. Back home I went from start to cleanup on the replacement in under 3 hours. No doubt in my mind a pro could do it in well under 2. - Remove battery and battery tray. (Good opportunity to clean this area up if you have any corrosion here.) - Remove water hoses from monovalve. - Loosen brake booster from firewall. (3 nuts accessible from under driver's side kick panel.) Move it out of the way. - Remove bolts holding sway bar to upper control arm. - Remove 4 bolts holding the 2 sway bar mounts to firewall. - Go through contorsions and gyrations to get old bar out. (Yoga helps here.) - Slide new bar back in. (Repeat same contortions in reverse.) - Here's the hardest part. Get the new bar lined up and back through the upper control arms. May take a little prying and jacking. I used a longer bolt to help pull the bar into the right position and start the bushings seating. - Replace everything you removed earlier. - Enjoy frosty adult beverage. - Count leftover pieces. If 0, either figure out where they are supposed to be or repeat above step until feeling goes away. Gary Thompson 1995 E320 1984 300DThe Curse Bob DuPuy wrote: I too have an otherwise decent 123 in my yard with a bad sway bar end. I got it for free for that very reason. My plan was to cut the last four inches from a good bar and trim back the bad bar similarly. I was going to bevel grind both pieces for better weld penitration. I was also going to find a piece of steel pipe that fits snuggly over the bar and splint over the weld and weld that in place too. I think this plan would work and yeild a vehicle worthy of driving around town for myself, but I couldn't put one of the kids or the wife in it. If I sold the car, even disclosing the repair wouldn't limit my liability. I think I'll call the pick and pull to come get it. Sorry Kleb I don't think you'll want to drag it home from Florida. Bob DuPuy Parrish, FL
[MBZ] Long lost brother
I was in Houston the other day to do a structural inspection and passed a guy driving a car almost identical to my shaggin wagin...deep blue 300TD. He and I waved and honked at each other and exchanged the secret TD owner greeting. Sure was nice to see another member of the brotherhood. Wonder if he's on the list? Royce Engler 1985 300TD Turbo 265K
[MBZ] Boy is my face red...
My 300TD has been running REAL rough for a while. The other night I had a flash of intuition and thought I'd better check the connnection from the turbo to the air cleaner. I had taken the air cleaner off a few weeks ago to adjust the valves. Sure enough, it had not been tightened. As a result, whenever I put my foot into it and the boost pressure built up, it blew past the loose fitting and made a sound like a relief valve lifting. As you might guess the resulting loss of boost pretty much eliminated any ability to accelerate. I also did an exorcism on the A/C and have pretty much eliminated the demonic possession that was causing it to suddenly blow hot. A/C seems to be doing a relatively good job of cooling, and only occasionally goes crazy. I still suspect something in the mono valve, even though my indie said he checked it. He did think it might have a weak solenoid(?). Anyway...I have bigger fish to fry and if I can hold the A/C demons at bay for a while, I'll focus on power issues. Royce Engler 1985 300TD Turbo 265K
Re: [MBZ] OT Faulkner...was clogged radiator?
Royce Engler wrote: Wasn't someone whining a few days ago about no kulture in the South? My son went to Ole Miss, and on one of our trips to Oxford, MS, we took a tour of Faulkner's house. Lotsa famous folks from Ole Miss... I once got my 450SEL stuck in the mud in Faulkner's driveway. It was a great microcosm of southern culture on so many levels. Tom Ole Miss dropout, joyfully back in the midwest.
Re: [MBZ] Long lost brother
What's the secret 123 300TD greeting? Andrew 1983 300TD blue/blue (VIN on request) On 8/12/05, Royce Engler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was in Houston the other day to do a structural inspection and passed a guy driving a car almost identical to my shaggin wagin...deep blue 300TD. He and I waved and honked at each other and exchanged the secret TD owner greeting. Sure was nice to see another member of the brotherhood. Wonder if he's on the list? Royce Engler 1985 300TD Turbo 265K ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 126 front stabilizer broken--update
In seeing what it takes to replace the entire bar I would be inclined to try and weld it. I would make sure that you get someone who can really weld. I would check with companies that do it all the time. Putting reinforcing tubing over the weld might give you some extra satisfaction. Of course it must be exactly the right length and parallel to the old bar but a good welder should be able to accomplish that. Those bars must be quite stout and made of good steel and the weld will be stronger than the bar. I was looking at replacing the firewall bushings and have hesitated just for the reason of access. Dennis Perkins 84 300SD
Re: [MBZ] 126 FRONT STABILIZER BROKEN--UPDATE
Just another reason to rejoice in 124World. Even looks like I could pull the thing (5 min?) keep drivin' w/o muvh of a care while I wait for the replacement. Lookin' at my 123 the epc, I'm inclined to agree with the naysayers about doing this w/ a 123 or 126. joe On 8/12/05, Gary Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guys, There's a big difference between replacing a sway bar on a 123 and a 126. Let's not scare the 123 owners by throwing out 12.5 hour labor numbers for 126's. The 123 sway bar can be replaced in well under 3 hours. Easy work. I'd buy all the cheap 123's I could find with broken sway bars!
Re: [MBZ] Long lost brother
I was going to ask the same thing! Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 8/12/05, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the secret 123 300TD greeting? Andrew 1983 300TD blue/blue (VIN on request)
Re: [MBZ] Long lost brother
You guys should have pulled over at a rest stop and made sweet love to each other --- andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the secret 123 300TD greeting? Andrew 1983 300TD blue/blue (VIN on request) On 8/12/05, Royce Engler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was in Houston the other day to do a structural inspection and passed a guy driving a car almost identical to my shaggin wagin...deep blue 300TD. He and I waved and honked at each other and exchanged the secret TD owner greeting. Sure was nice to see another member of the brotherhood. Wonder if he's on the list? Royce Engler 1985 300TD Turbo 265K ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Gabriel S. 1987 300D Southern California 230K+ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [MBZ] 126 STABILIZERFAILURE--UPDATE/Opinion/Correctme ifI'mwrong!
I was considering the generic description of the suspension and not the specific 126 chassis. I had a look at the online manual for a 126 last evening and I see that the setup is different than what I was thinking of. I think that I would be reluctant to even try to repair the end of the stabilizer. If the rest of the car is in good condition, bite the bullet and go for a proper repair. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Vernon Ritchey Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 4:12 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 STABILIZERFAILURE--UPDATE/Opinion/Correctme ifI'mwrong! Randy If you are talking about a 123 or 126, you are wrong. Scott Ritchey Niceville, FL 1982 300 SD 220K miles 1979 300 TD 350K miles - Original Message - From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 7:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 STABILIZER FAILURE--UPDATE/Opinion/Correctme ifI'mwrong! I still don't think it is going to be unsafe to drive it without the stabilizer bar. The description given of the control arms mounting to the body and the stabilizer connecting between them is no different than the majority of vehicles on the street. The stabilizer bar acts as a sort of torsion bar to connect the two sides together and improve handling. It efectively reduces the lean over factor but not much else. I would guess that removing it might even improve the ride somewhat as then you truly have independent front suspension so one side should not affect the other. It will affect handling but not to any extreme and ought not to be unsafe if the rest of the vehicle is intact. I can't see the idea of overextending a shock and ripping off a control arm. That is extreme. There is likely a bump stop of some sort in the suspension somewhere to avoid overextending the shocks and if the body is bad enough that one fears the loss of a control arm then it is time to put the vehicle out to pasture. Lots of older vehicles didn't have stabilizer bars. Offroaders routinely disconnect them in order to keep their tires in contact with the terrain in rough country. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Ervine Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 3:05 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 STABILIZER FAILURE--UPDATE/Opinion/ Correctme ifI'mwrong! Rick Knoble wrote: There is something you don't know about. The stabilizer holds the upper control arms in place. Danger Will Robinson, do NOT drive it like that! It doesn't hold them in place, it links them together in an attempt to improve handling characteristics and reduce body roll in turns. The UCAs are mounted to and pivot at the body on one end, while the other end is connected to the steering knuckle, the bottom of which is mounted to the lower control arm which is held in place by the spring (whose other end is mounted to the chassis, and whose motions are damped by the shock absorber). The LCA is stabilized at the rear by the caster joint. While short-term I think the car would be drivable, long-term I think it would wear the suspension components quickly as they were forced to move more than they should. Worst-case, you over-extend a shock on one side, and ram the UCA of the other side through the inner fender (or rip the UCA from it's mounting point altogether). So, not safe, but certainly doable. I certainly wouldn't do it unless it was the only means to get myself and the car home, where the car would then be parked until I either parted the car or repaired it - with a preference towards the former. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi 1980 300TD 168+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] OT: BMW 535D video
Neat video on the new BMW diesel - see link below (approx 20MB Zip file). My favorite parts were: 1) The fuzzy kittens 2) The smoking tyres near the end! Side note... while they didn't want to point it out, if you look closely, it turned a faster laptime than the Lotus Esprit V8!! Also, this car has a dual-stage turbo setup... small turbo at low RPM, big turbo at high RPM. WAY cool. I bet with a chip it would outrun the 'petrol' version. :-) -- Dave M. Boise, ID 1994 E500 - 94kmi (Q-ship) 1987 300D - 258kmi (Sportline) -- Forwarded message -- From: Aaron Lam Date: Aug 11, 2005 2:38 AM Subject: BMW 535D video Starring good ol' Jeremy Clarkson. Neat car - it would be a blast with a manual tranny. I wonder if they'll bring it over to compete with the MB E320 CDI. http://www.autoclips.net/upload/1s3v7kqbj9r4.zip -Aaron
Re: [MBZ] Long lost brother
It's not like the folding rear seats in a TD weren't made for some good love-making either, eh? Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 8/12/05, Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You guys should have pulled over at a rest stop and made sweet love to each other
Re: [MBZ] OT: BMW 535D video
That's the way the 3Gen Mazda RX-7 was setup with its twin turbo. It eliminates turbo lag and totally pumps up the power. Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 8/12/05, Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Side note... while they didn't want to point it out, if you look closely, it turned a faster laptime than the Lotus Esprit V8!! Also, this car has a dual-stage turbo setup... small turbo at low RPM, big turbo at high RPM. WAY cool. I bet with a chip it would outrun the 'petrol' version.
Re: [MBZ] Long lost brother
hahahhahhai kid, i kid! --- TimothyPilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not like the folding rear seats in a TD weren't made for some good love-making either, eh? Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 8/12/05, Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You guys should have pulled over at a rest stop and made sweet love to each other ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Gabriel S. 1987 300D Southern California 230K+ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [MBZ] OT: BMW 535D video
where, might i ask, is this video located? I sure would like to take a gander at her. --- TimothyPilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's the way the 3Gen Mazda RX-7 was setup with its twin turbo. It eliminates turbo lag and totally pumps up the power. Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 8/12/05, Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Side note... while they didn't want to point it out, if you look closely, it turned a faster laptime than the Lotus Esprit V8!! Also, this car has a dual-stage turbo setup... small turbo at low RPM, big turbo at high RPM. WAY cool. I bet with a chip it would outrun the 'petrol' version. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Gabriel S. 1987 300D Southern California 230K+ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: BMW 535D video
Crap. The DL cutoff after a short time and had a very slow DL rate. Can somebody upload it to www.yousendit.com and post the link? Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 8/12/05, Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neat video on the new BMW diesel - see link below (approx 20MB Zip file). My favorite parts were: 1) The fuzzy kittens 2) The smoking tyres near the end! Side note... while they didn't want to point it out, if you look closely, it turned a faster laptime than the Lotus Esprit V8!! Also, this car has a dual-stage turbo setup... small turbo at low RPM, big turbo at high RPM. WAY cool. I bet with a chip it would outrun the 'petrol' version. :-) -- Dave M. Boise, ID 1994 E500 - 94kmi (Q-ship) 1987 300D - 258kmi (Sportline) -- Forwarded message -- From: Aaron Lam Date: Aug 11, 2005 2:38 AM Subject: BMW 535D video Starring good ol' Jeremy Clarkson. Neat car - it would be a blast with a manual tranny. I wonder if they'll bring it over to compete with the MB E320 CDI. http://www.autoclips.net/upload/1s3v7kqbj9r4.zip -Aaron ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OT: BMW 535D video
if you send that bad boy to me i'll host it --- TimothyPilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Crap. The DL cutoff after a short time and had a very slow DL rate. Can somebody upload it to www.yousendit.com and post the link? Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 8/12/05, Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neat video on the new BMW diesel - see link below (approx 20MB Zip file). My favorite parts were: 1) The fuzzy kittens 2) The smoking tyres near the end! Side note... while they didn't want to point it out, if you look closely, it turned a faster laptime than the Lotus Esprit V8!! Also, this car has a dual-stage turbo setup... small turbo at low RPM, big turbo at high RPM. WAY cool. I bet with a chip it would outrun the 'petrol' version. :-) -- Dave M. Boise, ID 1994 E500 - 94kmi (Q-ship) 1987 300D - 258kmi (Sportline) -- Forwarded message -- From: Aaron Lam Date: Aug 11, 2005 2:38 AM Subject: BMW 535D video Starring good ol' Jeremy Clarkson. Neat car - it would be a blast with a manual tranny. I wonder if they'll bring it over to compete with the MB E320 CDI. http://www.autoclips.net/upload/1s3v7kqbj9r4.zip -Aaron ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Gabriel S. 1987 300D Southern California 230K+ __ Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html
Re: [MBZ] Long lost brother
You're just jealous 'cause you're stuck with a trunk! :) Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 8/12/05, Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hahahhahhai kid, i kid!
Re: [MBZ] W124 A/C question - compressor cuts off too soon?
Brian, Good question. I belive the recirc small lift is dead on this car, allowing 10% outside air, but not allowing 100% recirculation either. Regardless, if there was excess load due to warm air, or if the evap was dirty, AND the cutoff was normal (mid/low 40's), the compressor would never cut off or cycle. It would stay in the 50-ish range and not cycle. The fact that it cycles proves (to me, anyway) that the cutoff temp was too high. I'll be replacing all the pods on this car soon - just received them from Rusty two days ago. BTW - the diverter would normally operate some of the time, on off, when the AC is engaged. This car has a dead diverter pod as well as center vent, so I'm measuring from the side vents. The temp difference would be minimal though. After all the pods are replaced I'll re-test the system to make sure temps aren't too cold. :-) -Dave M. -- Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 07:52:47 -0500 From: brian toscano [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 A/C question - compressor cuts off too soon? Dave, What is the chance that the recirc flap is not closing all the way allowing 100% outside air. This would hurt the effectiveness of the system for sure. Also what about a possibly dirty evap. Doesn't the recirc flap at least partially engage anytime the A/C is on - or maybe the source was incorrect. I know on my white car that was an issue because it always sucked outside air. Brian
Re: [MBZ] lies
Lemme see if I unnerstand: When Bill went to lie down with Monica to lay her, he did the deed, then they lay together and snuggled. When the news broke, he made up a lie about the lay. So when he laid her then lied about laying her is that when he blew it? Ken In a message dated 8/11/2005 7:44:41 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] clogged radiator? To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Kaleb, it's not LAYing around, it's LYing around. And when you recline, you LIE down, not LAY down, as all the yoga and pilates instructors say. Sorry for being such a twit but this is one of my pet peeves... Only 5 percent of the populace knows the difference beween lay and lie. I guesss you have to be a baby boomer...
Re: [MBZ] Boy is my face red...
Roy, The connection from turbo to air cleaner is not under pressure - that's the air intake. All the pressurized connections are hard line to the intake manifold. It's good that you fixed it, but you were NOT losing any boost pressure there, nor would this affect rough running. About the AC, if you suddenly get hot air, check the fuses. If one of the fuses (I forget which) is bad or intermittent, it turns off the monovalve and you get full heat. Could also be a failing monovalve insert, or a flaky pushbutton unit, or temp control unit (which is separate on the W123 - weird setup.) :-) -Dave M. -- Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 09:26:00 -0500 From: Royce Engler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Boy is my face red... My 300TD has been running REAL rough for a while. The other night I had a flash of intuition and thought I'd better check the connnection from the turbo to the air cleaner. I had taken the air cleaner off a few weeks ago to adjust the valves. Sure enough, it had not been tightened. As a result, whenever I put my foot into it and the boost pressure built up, it blew past the loose fitting and made a sound like a relief valve lifting. As you might guess the resulting loss of boost pretty much eliminated any ability to accelerate. I also did an exorcism on the A/C and have pretty much eliminated the demonic possession that was causing it to suddenly blow hot. A/C seems to be doing a relatively good job of cooling, and only occasionally goes crazy. I still suspect something in the mono valve, even though my indie said he checked it. He did think it might have a weak solenoid(?). Anyway...I have bigger fish to fry and if I can hold the A/C demons at bay for a while, I'll focus on power issues. Royce Engler 1985 300TD Turbo 265K
Re: [MBZ] lies
This is the infamous line: It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is. If the - if he - if 'is' means is and never has been, that is not - that is not the only one thing. It means there is none. That was a completely true statement. - Bill Clinton, August 1998. Bush does seem like a plain speaking dweeb compared to this. Ken
Re: [MBZ] OT: BMW 535D video
Hey, that's a neat service! I uploaded the full file (30MB) here: http://s18.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=10BSMZ90G5X1D3DC2T3RWJ5LHF :-) -dm -- Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 11:34:40 -0400 From: TimothyPilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: BMW 535D video Crap. The DL cutoff after a short time and had a very slow DL rate. Can somebody upload it to www.yousendit.com and post the link? Tim 1982 300TD Moby
Re: [MBZ] Experiment - Raising Injector pressure
This is Dan again, I will measure the fuel economy - mpg using the exact same diesel fuel as before and report back if any difference is found. It might take a few weeks since I just topped the tank off on monday. I also want to test highway only mpgs. I can report that the starting is a little more difficult with the pressure set too high, I am pressure testing an injector today to find out my readings in bar. I think I found a good compromise today and will run at that setting for a few weeks. I was thinking of adjusting the timing slightly retarded to see if the noise cuts down but I am not going to do that since it will cause my pump gasket to start leaking again. I put a new gasket on it when I rebuilt the engine. My thinking is the fuel is burning much faster with the higher pressure. I can tell a difference at all rpms in sound when I have the hood up. I did not replace the nozzles since they sounded ok when running. I think these nozzles last a very long time. If this helps mileage, it will pay off since diesel on Long Island is now around 2.59 at the pump. Unleaded regular is now 2.59 today. In a message dated 8/11/2005 2:39:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan, You've got my attention! Are you going to report back on changes in fuel consumption, extended oil drain intervals, burn some WVO, what is the goal here??
Re: [MBZ] 126 STABILIZERFAILURE--UPDATE/Opinion/Correctme ifI'mwrong!
In a message dated 8/12/2005 8:23:14 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was considering the generic description of the suspension and not the specific 126 chassis. I had a look at the online manual for a 126 last evening and I see that the setup is different than what I was thinking of. I think that I would be reluctant to even try to repair the end of the stabilizer. If the rest of the car is in good condition, bite the bullet and go for a proper repair. I also took a look at the function of the bar and it does appear to be part of a multipoint support. I WOULD NOT run the 126 farther than necessary to get it fixed. I retract my initial Opinion. Take that, all you GD (gosh darn) lawyers ! Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 261 K miles 98 ML 320, 137 K miles
Re: [MBZ] lies
...So when he laid her then lied about laying her is that when he blew it? My guess is thats when SHE blew it. Jerry Ö¿Ö ~ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 9:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] lies Lemme see if I unnerstand: When Bill went to lie down with Monica to lay her, he did the deed, then they lay together and snuggled. When the news broke, he made up a lie about the lay. So when he laid her then lied about laying her is that when he blew it? Ken
Re: [MBZ] OT: BMW 535D video
Isn't though? Remember, it's only good for a few days. Between that and Gmail, it really cures the difficulties of file transfers of the past. Tim On 8/12/05, Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, that's a neat service! I uploaded the full file (30MB) here: http://s18.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=10BSMZ90G5X1D3DC2T3RWJ5LHF :-) -dm
[MBZ] Which to MBZ buy?
Hi gang, I know this has been asked at least once :-) but since the price of #2 is over $3 bucks I had to park my Dodge Diesel (gets 20mpg) I'm looking to spend about $3k on MBZ diesel. My question to people in the know is which ones get the best mileage? I drive about 600 miles per week and it's all freeway. So if you can help me find the right car I'll use the responses to convince the wife. Now for for my needs: A/C is a must auto or stick I can do both power windows a must if turbo is the way to go, I'll take it love the power when I need it must be able to cruise 80mph with no problems ( I drive between 70 and 75) great fitting seats Well that's all I can think of for now. You guys and gals are great, I have been on this list for almost a year now and really love all the great info I get. Oh BTW I might run it on Bio or WVO Thank you Rory
Re: [MBZ] Which to MBZ buy?
Rory wrote: My question to people in the know is which ones get the best mileage? 190D, 4 cyl, five speed. 190D, 5 cyl, five speed. 190D, turbo 5 cyl, auto. 190D, 4 cyl, auto. 190D, 5 cyl non turbo, auto. (all from the 1980's. I think I got the order more or less correct. Any stick shift diesel VW should beat them though, or a Geo Metro XFI, Honda CRX HF, Civic VX, etc) 300D, 5 cyl turbo, auto. (early 1990's, same drivetrain as the 1987 190D turbo but the body is bigger)
Re: [MBZ] Which to MBZ buy?
Thanks Mitch, do you have MPGs numbers? On 8/12/05, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rory wrote: My question to people in the know is which ones get the best mileage? 190D, 4 cyl, five speed. 190D, 5 cyl, five speed. 190D, turbo 5 cyl, auto. 190D, 4 cyl, auto. 190D, 5 cyl non turbo, auto. (all from the 1980's. I think I got the order more or less correct. Any stick shift diesel VW should beat them though, or a Geo Metro XFI, Honda CRX HF, Civic VX, etc) 300D, 5 cyl turbo, auto. (early 1990's, same drivetrain as the 1987 190D turbo but the body is bigger) ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com http://www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com http://www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Which to MBZ buy?
Rory wrote: Thanks Mitch, do you have MPGs numbers? Highway should be as much as low-mid 40s on 190D stick and turbo, mid-upper 30s on the others, low 30s for the 2.5L W124 body 300D. If you want to drive 60mph, you should get over 60mpg in the three gassers I mentioned, or some of the better VWs diesels. There are two versions of the 92-95 Civic VX. The CA cars didn't have a lean-burn mode, so they don't have lean stumble, but they aren't going to ever hit 60mpg either.
Re: [MBZ] Which to MBZ buy?
not a MB but I had an 03 Jetta TDI wagon. heated leather seats, 5 spd, sunroof,etc. etc. etc. got an average of 48 mpg over 40K miles of ownership. And I drove it like a rental car, often with several hundred pounds of DJ gear in it. Drove it cross country with a cargo carrier on the roof. I saw 35 states in a year and a half in that thing. refill every 600 miles. if it's all highway, maybe you'll go 800 until the fuel light comes on (meaning 2 gallons left) great build quality, a few problems they all have, but join a TDI group to find out about them.My biggest complaint about the car was not about the car -- the dealership was awful. The car: hardly any ground clearance with the VW skidplate protecting the thin cast aluminum oil pan. (highly recommended) front bumper would scrape backing out of driveway, pulling onto a steep side street. skidplate scraped on heavily rutted asphalt when bounding into dips. With the ALDA set incorrectly on my '83 300D auto I got up to 34 mpg (mostly highway).With it set for more fuel I got 26 out of this last tank. (no highway, all city) With the unmodified 03 Jetta I got 48mpg from mile 0 to 40K overall. hope that helps -Rob On Friday, August 12, 2005, at 01:47 PM, Rory wrote: Thanks Mitch, do you have MPGs numbers? On 8/12/05, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rory wrote: My question to people in the know is which ones get the best mileage? 190D, 4 cyl, five speed. 190D, 5 cyl, five speed. 190D, turbo 5 cyl, auto. 190D, 4 cyl, auto. 190D, 5 cyl non turbo, auto. (all from the 1980's. I think I got the order more or less correct. Any stick shift diesel VW should beat them though, or a Geo Metro XFI, Honda CRX HF, Civic VX, etc) 300D, 5 cyl turbo, auto. (early 1990's, same drivetrain as the 1987 190D turbo but the body is bigger) ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Which to MBZ buy?
I hear you on the Honda VX, my co-worker sold his VX to somebody here at work with 320K miles on it and he said he got around 60mpg's with it. But car is to small for me. I'll start my search for a 190D turbo model. Thanks On 8/12/05, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rory wrote: Thanks Mitch, do you have MPGs numbers? Highway should be as much as low-mid 40s on 190D stick and turbo, mid-upper 30s on the others, low 30s for the 2.5L W124 body 300D. If you want to drive 60mph, you should get over 60mpg in the three gassers I mentioned, or some of the better VWs diesels. There are two versions of the 92-95 Civic VX. The CA cars didn't have a lean-burn mode, so they don't have lean stumble, but they aren't going to ever hit 60mpg either. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com http://www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com http://www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 126 front stabilizer broken--update
Dennis Perkins wrote: In seeing what it takes to replace the entire bar I would be inclined to try and weld it. I would make sure that you get someone who can really weld. I would check with companies that do it all the time. Putting reinforcing tubing over the weld might give you some extra satisfaction. Of course it must be exactly the right length and parallel to the old bar but a good welder should be able to accomplish that. Those bars must be quite stout and made of good steel and the weld will be stronger than the bar. I was looking at replacing the firewall bushings and have hesitated just for the reason of access. Dennis Perkins 84 300SD I think the chance of success is about the same as welding a broken coil or leaf spring! The anti-sway bar has a LOT of force applied to it as the car moves over uneven surfaces. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm
Re: [MBZ] 126 STABILIZERFAILURE--UPDATE/Opinion/Correctme ifI'mwrong!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/12/2005 8:23:14 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was considering the generic description of the suspension and not the specific 126 chassis. I had a look at the online manual for a 126 last evening and I see that the setup is different than what I was thinking of. I think that I would be reluctant to even try to repair the end of the stabilizer. If the rest of the car is in good condition, bite the bullet and go for a proper repair. I also took a look at the function of the bar and it does appear to be part of a multipoint support. I WOULD NOT run the 126 farther than necessary to get it fixed. I retract my initial Opinion. Take that, all you GD (gosh darn) lawyers ! If I recall correctly (and I may not), if the anti-sway bar of a 116 or 126 fails (either the bar or it's attachment to the firewall) the entire front suspension CAN collapse if force in just the right direction is applied. Not sure if that's true of the 123 or not. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm
[MBZ] the cost of commuting
Background -- I live less than a mile from my office. We are moving to a new building in a couple of months, but even then it won't be any more than two miles, easy bicycling or even walking distance. I put in a resume yesterday for a different job. Rather than being walking distance from my house, this is new job would be in the next town over, about 25/30 miles west of where I live. Using an estimated diesel fuel cost of $2.50 per gallon and a conservative estimate of 20 mpg with my 240D, even though 25 mpg is closer to reality, and working an average of 22 days a month, my calculations show about $165 per month in fuel costs alone to commute. That is 3 gallons of fuel per day ($7.50) times 60 miles per day times 22 work days per month. Here is my question. I know it would actually cost me more than just the purchase of fuel to commute this distance. How much money should I factor in for wear tear on the car, tire wear, extra quarts of Mobil 1, etc.? If offered a position, I don't want to quote an acceptable starting salary only to find out later that I am actually making less money than I do now with almost zero commute time. And this doesn't even take into account the commuting time, especially when we are up to our butts in snow and the temp is -10F or lower. The road I would be taking is a major two lane east/west highway (Highway 30 that cuts across Iowa) that is mostly through farm land, with the prevailing winter winds from the north frequently making some very high snow drifts across the road and white-out conditions. The one good thing about the new job is that it is in the computer field. The bad thing is the commute. Anyone have a suggestion? -- If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.
Re: [MBZ] 126 STABILIZERFAILURE--UPDATE/Opinion/CorrectmeifI'mwrong!
Oops, not only am I guilty of overgeneralizing the suspension issue, but I am one of the GD lawyers! Randy in Winnipeg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 9:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 STABILIZERFAILURE--UPDATE/Opinion/CorrectmeifI'mwrong! In a message dated 8/12/2005 8:23:14 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was considering the generic description of the suspension and not the specific 126 chassis. I had a look at the online manual for a 126 last evening and I see that the setup is different than what I was thinking of. I think that I would be reluctant to even try to repair the end of the stabilizer. If the rest of the car is in good condition, bite the bullet and go for a proper repair. I also took a look at the function of the bar and it does appear to be part of a multipoint support. I WOULD NOT run the 126 farther than necessary to get it fixed. I retract my initial Opinion. Take that, all you GD (gosh darn) lawyers ! Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 261 K miles 98 ML 320, 137 K miles
Re: [MBZ] lies
I think the Faulkner parody illuminating Bush's inner thoughts and inner circle is much funnier than all the stale Clinton jokes... as well as being hlghly plausible. On 8/12/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the Prez came to that conclusion. On 8/12/05, Gerald R. Flintrop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My guess is that's when SHE blew it. Jerry Ö¿Ö -- If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Which to MBZ buy?
Any stick shift diesel VW should beat them though, or a Geo Metro XFI, Honda CRX HF, Civic VX, etc) My '92 Jetta D NA 5-speed regularly turned in 43+ mpg at 70. My 86 Golf, same engine, turned in 48 mpg at the same speed, as it had no power steering, a bit taller gearing, and a more aerodynamic body. I've heard of folks who regularly get in the mid fifties on the highway at 75 with TDIs. Nice cars, but light, noisy, and small compared to any mbz, and harder to work on, as clearances are tighter under the hood. My Westfailia TD conversion gets 25 @ 65-70. -- Dan Weeks 82 VW Westfalia 1.6 TD conversion 175k 82 Mercedes 300SD, 260k
Re: [MBZ] the cost of commuting
Don, First of all, you've got to assume that the price of diesel will escalate further due to the inexorable rise in world oil prices (See Rolling Stone Article The Long Emergency at http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0413-28.htm) Let's be optimistic and say $3.00/gallon. That brings your monthly total to about $185 or so. Budgeting 10 cents a mile for maintenance (SWAG) works out to about $135 per month. Together that's $320 (185+135) X 12 months = around $4,000 annually in extra commuting expenses. If you value your personal time at $50/hr., throw in another $50/day, or $1000/month, or $12,000/yr. + $4,000 = $16,000 more than you're currently making. Like I say, it's a SWAG (silly wild-a**ed guess). Andrew On 8/12/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Background -- I live less than a mile from my office. We are moving to a new building in a couple of months, but even then it won't be any more than two miles, easy bicycling or even walking distance. I put in a resume yesterday for a different job. Rather than being walking distance from my house, this is new job would be in the next town over, about 25/30 miles west of where I live. Using an estimated diesel fuel cost of $2.50 per gallon and a conservative estimate of 20 mpg with my 240D, even though 25 mpg is closer to reality, and working an average of 22 days a month, my calculations show about $165 per month in fuel costs alone to commute. That is 3 gallons of fuel per day ($7.50) times 60 miles per day times 22 work days per month. Here is my question. I know it would actually cost me more than just the purchase of fuel to commute this distance. How much money should I factor in for wear tear on the car, tire wear, extra quarts of Mobil 1, etc.? If offered a position, I don't want to quote an acceptable starting salary only to find out later that I am actually making less money than I do now with almost zero commute time. And this doesn't even take into account the commuting time, especially when we are up to our butts in snow and the temp is -10F or lower. The road I would be taking is a major two lane east/west highway (Highway 30 that cuts across Iowa) that is mostly through farm land, with the prevailing winter winds from the north frequently making some very high snow drifts across the road and white-out conditions. The one good thing about the new job is that it is in the computer field. The bad thing is the commute. Anyone have a suggestion? -- If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Which to MBZ buy?
Rory wrote: I'll start my search for a 190D turbo model. I should warn you. 190D turbo was made only in 1987, something like 1600 total vehicles. It's the most fun to drive of the old MBZ diesels, so it tends to sell high when a nice one is available. There was one on eBay last night for $2300, not perfect, but better than I'd expect for that price: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4566885730 There was a POS offered near me a year or two ago, Ron Dwelle looked at it, needed A/C repair, sunroof repair, and I forget what else, plus it was generally kind of beat. He offered them $3k for it (2k more than I would have paid) and they turned him down.
Re: [MBZ] W124 A/C question - compressor cuts off too soon?
brian toscano wrote: Dave, What is the chance that the recirc flap is not closing all the way allowing 100% outside air. This would hurt the effectiveness of the system for sure. Also what about a possibly dirty evap. Doesn't the recirc flap at least partially engage anytime the A/C is on - or maybe the source was incorrect. I know on my white car that was an issue because it always sucked outside air. Mercedes allowed SOME outside air almost no matter what. It was different on different model cars (123 vs 126 vs 201 vs 124) and maybe even different years. There are elaborate charts in the 123, 126, 124, 201 heating/AC manuals showing what the air flow should be thru each flap with inside and outside temperatures and temp wheel settings. I haven't studied the diagrams in years so am unwilling to make any generalities except to say that intuition is UNLIKELY to lead you to the correct decision about how much air should be directed in which direction under what conditions! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm
Re: [MBZ] lies
Ya I agree Clinton jokes are true and ya don´t have to worry about plausible. On 8/12/05, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the Faulkner parody illuminating Bush's inner thoughts and inner circle is much funnier than all the stale Clinton jokes... as well as being hlghly plausible. On 8/12/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the Prez came to that conclusion. On 8/12/05, Gerald R. Flintrop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My guess is that's when SHE blew it. Jerry Ö¿Ö -- If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com http://www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com http://www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com http://www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com http://www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Don Teresa Merriman Market Place Mexico Vacation Rentals Property Administration www.marketplacemexico.com http://www.marketplacemexico.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 front stabilizer broken--update
Maybe have the weld X-ray ed? well at least a magnetic crack check. On 8/12/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dennis Perkins wrote: In seeing what it takes to replace the entire bar I would be inclined to try and weld it. I would make sure that you get someone who can really weld. I would check with companies that do it all the time. Putting reinforcing tubing over the weld might give you some extra satisfaction. Of course it must be exactly the right length and parallel to the old bar but a good welder should be able to accomplish that. Those bars must be quite stout and made of good steel and the weld will be stronger than the bar. I was looking at replacing the firewall bushings and have hesitated just for the reason of access. Dennis Perkins 84 300SD I think the chance of success is about the same as welding a broken coil or leaf spring! The anti-sway bar has a LOT of force applied to it as the car moves over uneven surfaces. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com http://www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com http://www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Don Teresa Merriman Market Place Mexico Vacation Rentals Property Administration www.marketplacemexico.com http://www.marketplacemexico.com
Re: [MBZ] Which to MBZ buy?
Rory wrote: Thanks Mitch, do you have MPGs numbers? On 8/12/05, *Mitch Haley* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rory wrote: My question to people in the know is which ones get the best mileage? 190D, 4 cyl, five speed. 190D, 5 cyl, five speed. 190D, turbo 5 cyl, auto. 190D, 4 cyl, auto. 190D, 5 cyl non turbo, auto. (all from the 1980's. I think I got the order more or less correct. Any stick shift diesel VW should beat them though, or a Geo Metro XFI, Honda CRX HF, Civic VX, etc) 300D, 5 cyl turbo, auto. (early 1990's, same drivetrain as the 1987 190D turbo but the body is bigger) Having owned every Mercedes listed above (except the 300D 2.5 turbo) I can say that average mpg goes from a bit better than 40 mpg for the best to about 31-32 for the worst (all under pretty good conditions and highway driving). The actual high and low numbers go from 48 mpg to about 28 mpg. My '68 Diesel rabbit 4 spd manual was a little better (45-52 mpg for the 15 years and 150kmi that I owned it) and ALMOST as much fun to drive in town, BUT NOT ON THE HIGHWAY. The Mercedes are MUCH more civilized on the highway! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm
[MBZ] Faulkner parody
Dieselvolk, Mis-underestimating W again, me thinks... I think the Faulkner parody illuminating Bush's inner thoughts and inner circle is much funnier than all the stale Clinton jokes... as well as being hlghly plausible. Keep that up, and soon we'll have even more Republicrats in House and Senate and maybe Condi for Prez... (hey, it's Friday, political posts should be allowed - right?) Have a great weekend everyone, my new SLS hydraulic control valve arrived yesterday (Thanks Rusty) and currently the schedule looks good for some garage-play time on Saturday a.m., hopefully I'll have that rear end sag problem fixed!!! Very respectfully, /s/ LCDR Meade M. Dillon, USNR Digest Lurker since 2001 '85 300TD 322k miles (Euro 5spd) '96 Infiniti I30 150k miles (wife's 5spd) '73 Balboa 20 'Sanctification' Charleston SC
Re: [MBZ] Faulkner parody
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keep that up, and soon we'll have even more Republicrats in House and Senate and maybe Condi for Prez... How many non republicrats to we have in the House Senate now, about one total? (seems there's one guy from the northeast who dropped his party affiliation after the election, and I think he's still in office)
[MBZ] which one to buy cont'd
Marshall wrote: 190D, 4 cyl, five speed. 190D, 5 cyl, five speed. 190D, turbo 5 cyl, auto. 190D, 4 cyl, auto. 190D, 5 cyl non turbo, auto. (all from the 1980's. I think I got the order more or less correct. Any stick shift diesel VW should beat them though, or a Geo Metro XFI, Honda CRX HF, Civic VX, etc) 300D, 5 cyl turbo, auto. (early 1990's, same drivetrain as the 1987 190D turbo but the body is bigger) Having owned every Mercedes listed above (except the 300D 2.5 turbo) I can say that average mpg goes from a bit better than 40 mpg for the best to about 31-32 for the worst (all under pretty good conditions and highway driving). The actual high and low numbers go from 48 mpg to about 28 mpg. My '68 Diesel rabbit 4 spd manual was a little better (45-52 mpg for the 15 years and 150kmi that I owned it) and ALMOST as much fun to drive in town, BUT NOT ON THE HIGHWAY. The Mercedes are MUCH more civilized on the highway! Since Marshall has owned all of these cars except the 300D 2.5 Turbo (and that is what I have) then I can report on its numbers. My 1990 300D 2.5 is terrific and fast (for a diesel). I never drive as slow as 60 on the highway. But at 75+ I get better than 30 mpg. In this car, the best I ever got was 34.3. I would agree about the Civics. Even just the basic 1987 Civic DX (5 speed) will get 37 mpg driving hard. Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have recieved this message in error, please delete it and notify me.
Re: [MBZ] Faulkner parody
Yes, he's still in office, caucused with the Democrats, so I guess that leaves zero who aren't Republicrats. Jerry Ö¿Ö ~ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 1:50 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Faulkner parody [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keep that up, and soon we'll have even more Republicrats in House and Senate and maybe Condi for Prez... How many non republicrats to we have in the House Senate now, about one total? (seems there's one guy from the northeast who dropped his party affiliation after the election, and I think he's still in office)
Re: [MBZ] Back on the 'net
redghost wrote: This is the populace rising up against the criminals we voted in who keep giving us stuff we voted against. We have a baseball stadium we voted against twice, a football stadium we voted against, unfunded transportation we did vote for, and the slut gov. gives us a GAS TAX when she swore if elected she would not. It's not that I'm strongly against repealing the tax, mind you. If people want shitty roads like Michigan has, then they can repeal it, and the more power to 'em. I just resent the idea of the majority sticking it to those of us who drive diesels while removing the tax on themselves. I guess that's what happens when you have mob rule, otherwise known as the public initiative process.
Re: [MBZ] Back on the 'net
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps someday folks will realize that if they want to live in the country they should find work in the country. If they want to work in town, then live in town. How about people who work in town, want to live in town, but can't afford the prices in town? I've been an unwilling commuter almost everywhere I've lived, just because living downtown anywhere is hella expensive.
Re: [MBZ] diesel prices
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Re: [MBZ] preferred $5000 car? (kinda OT)
redghost wrote: Owned a 95 civic for a few years. Lots of them around the block. You can always tell when they start up. Razzy little tinny sound. No authority like a diesel benz If no one has taken the muffler off and replaced it with a fart can, you can barely hear 'em idle at all. At least until they get about 60,000 miles on 'em. Then you get a bit of piston slap on cold mornings. Goes away as soon as you touch the throttle, though. I had the Si hatchback version, with variable intake valve timing. It was a blast to drive hard. It had a 7200 rpm redline; you could do 60 mph in second gear. At roughly 4000 RPM it would switch intake cam profiles and pull away nicely as the engine noise took on a more aggressive edge. There was a twisty little onramp near my house with a very short accelleration lane. I used to take the ramp at about 30 mph in 3rd, then downshift to 2nd and floor it after rounding the final 90 degree turn. It'd leap forward, I'd hit third gear just short of redline, merge into traffic, then shift straight into 5th. If driven sanely, that car would get 39 mpg. I usually got about 36. ;) Never would have sold it if the seats were better.
[MBZ] Emergency Road Service: Small fuel leak
Gents/Ladies: Ready to go on a trip tomorrow and noticed a small fuel leak on the hoses looping to/from the injectors. While the engine running, you see no visible leak but tough the hose and a small amount of diesel fuel is on your finger ... the hose itself is darker in color as well as areas of the engine Since the local dealer is closed, looking for suggestions for repair that will last for a 400 mile trip 1) do nothing since it is seepage at this point 2) duck tape or the like Does this line have a lot of pressure in it TIA Bill 1981 300 TD p.s. Just fill it up at 2.55 a gallon south of boston
Re: [MBZ] the cost of commuting
andrew strasfogel wrote: Don, First of all, you've got to assume that the price of diesel will escalate further due to the inexorable rise in world oil prices Not to mention that some experts feel we're in for a shortage of diesel fuel, because refineries have not invested in the equipment to make it. They've concentrated on gasoline, which is more profitable. If those experts are right, the cost of diesel may go far higher than the cost of gasoline in the next few years.
Re: [MBZ] Emergency Road Service: Small fuel leak
I ran that way for months (maybe in excess of a year) before I fixed it. No danger other than maybe a small drop in mpg. On 8/12/05, Bill Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gents/Ladies: Ready to go on a trip tomorrow and noticed a small fuel leak on the hoses looping to/from the injectors. While the engine running, you see no visible leak but tough the hose and a small amount of diesel fuel is on your finger ... the hose itself is darker in color as well as areas of the engine Since the local dealer is closed, looking for suggestions for repair that will last for a 400 mile trip 1) do nothing since it is seepage at this point 2) duck tape or the like Does this line have a lot of pressure in it TIA Bill 1981 300 TD p.s. Just fill it up at 2.55 a gallon south of boston ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com http://www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com http://www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.
[MBZ] Is this for real?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300D-Manual-1984-MERCEDES-300D-RARE-AND-DESIRABLE-NO-RESERVE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6330QQitemZ4568256207QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW ebay item 4568256207, owner says it's a gray market 84 300D turbo, manual tranny, manual everything, cloth interior, 148Kmi. Did any 123s exist in this form, Euro or otherwise? Right now, it's at $820 with 3 days left. -- Sunil Hari 1984 MB 300D Turbo [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] the cost of commuting
But French fry oil is pretty cheap around these parts. ... I think that will be my next project (after fixing the damn'd shutdown box issue). On 8/12/05, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: Don, First of all, you've got to assume that the price of diesel will escalate further due to the inexorable rise in world oil prices Not to mention that some experts feel we're in for a shortage of diesel fuel, because refineries have not invested in the equipment to make it. They've concentrated on gasoline, which is more profitable. If those experts are right, the cost of diesel may go far higher than the cost of gasoline in the next few years. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com http://www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com http://www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.
Re: [MBZ] preferred $5000 car? (kinda OT)
Should have just replaced them with Sparco or Recaro seats, then driven it for another 100Kmi. On 8/12/05, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: redghost wrote: Owned a 95 civic for a few years. Lots of them around the block. You can always tell when they start up. Razzy little tinny sound. No authority like a diesel benz If no one has taken the muffler off and replaced it with a fart can, you can barely hear 'em idle at all. At least until they get about 60,000 miles on 'em. Then you get a bit of piston slap on cold mornings. Goes away as soon as you touch the throttle, though. I had the Si hatchback version, with variable intake valve timing. It was a blast to drive hard. It had a 7200 rpm redline; you could do 60 mph in second gear. At roughly 4000 RPM it would switch intake cam profiles and pull away nicely as the engine noise took on a more aggressive edge. There was a twisty little onramp near my house with a very short accelleration lane. I used to take the ramp at about 30 mph in 3rd, then downshift to 2nd and floor it after rounding the final 90 degree turn. It'd leap forward, I'd hit third gear just short of redline, merge into traffic, then shift straight into 5th. If driven sanely, that car would get 39 mpg. I usually got about 36. ;) Never would have sold it if the seats were better. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari 1984 MB 300D Turbo [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] Is this for real?
On Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 06:36:16PM -0400, Sunil Hari wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300D-Manual-1984-MERCEDES-300D-RARE-AND-DESIRABLE-NO-RESERVE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6330QQitemZ4568256207QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW ebay item 4568256207, owner says it's a gray market 84 300D turbo, manual tranny, manual everything, cloth interior, 148Kmi. Did any 123s exist in this form, Euro or otherwise? I was under the understanding that mercedes didn't do turbo stick. If it's a euro, it's likely non turbo, especially if a stick. Right now, it's at $820 with 3 days left. Seems like a bargain, regardless of what it is (provided it runs). K
