Re: [MBZ] Rusty W126
Cool... how about a package deal on all hoses for the 603.960, maybe with a new thermostat, 2 gal of coolant, citric acid, etc.? I need to flush my coolant and figured I might as well change all the hoses at the same time... Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo On 2/2/06, Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 12:45 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rusty W126 Then 124s next, I hope? :) Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo
[MBZ] OT - UK metric?
Has UK gone metric? Wilton
Re: [MBZ] Rear Calipers Torn Boot
Bob: Usually there is a new dust boot in the kit, take another look! Usually there is a new heat shield, new piston seal, and new dust boot. The boot locks into a groove on the piston and fits by spring retainer around the casting of the caliper. Peter
[MBZ] MTBE
I thought that MTBE was considered carcinogenic? Surely no one who claims to be knowledgeable on oxgenated fuels would not know about MTBE and why Montana and Alaska prohibit it. RLE
Re: [MBZ] W's concern abt oil
Here ON 911, I remember gas going up to 1.79, that was HIGH HIGH HIGH!!. Then I remember it going down as low as 79 there for a week or so not too long after. Curt Raymond wrote: Really? Maybe because of reduced demand in NYC? Weren't there price controls instituted right after 911? Our gas prices didn't go down... Of course theres no production or refining here either. -Curt Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 10:34:46 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] W's concern abt oil To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I remember 79 cent a gallon just after 911 - Bring words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] MTBE
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Surely no one who claims to be knowledgeable on oxgenated fuels would not know about MTBE and why Montana and Alaska prohibit it. Didn't the state of Commiefornia require its use in gasoline, and then sue the chemical companies which produced it and sold it to refineries because the companies produced a chemical which was required by law?
Re: [MBZ] Engine Wanted 1981 380SEL
I have a euro 380 engine. MICHAEL ESH wrote: Anybody have any suggestions or leads? I am looking to purchase a good used engine for my 1981 380SEL. I am in Western Lower Michigan. Thanks, Mike 1973 220D 1981 300SEL 1981 300 SD 1982 300 TD Wagon ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
[MBZ] MSRP for 1986 190D
Anyone know what the MSRP was on 190Ds? . I'd like to see prices on all years 1984 right on up but am particularly interested in the cost of my 1986 190D 2.5 its a Euro grey market jammy. Does anyone still have a window sticker? Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb 03 01:24:50 2006 Received: from mxa.windwireless.net ([199.164.167.40]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F4pgw-u2-Qi for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 01:24:50 + Received: from dogear.com (IP-206-63-94-251.progress.wi-fi.windwireless.net [206.63.94.251] (may be forged)) by mxa.windwireless.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id k131PFIO007318 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 17:25:15 -0800 Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 17:24:47 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-Virus-Scan: smtp-vilter X-SMTP-Vilter-Version: 1.1.0rc2 X-SMTP-Vilter-Backend: Clam AntiVirus Daemon (clamd) X-SMTP-Vilter-Status: clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0rc4 (mxa.windwireless.net [199.164.167.40]); Thu, 02 Feb 2006 17:25:15 -0800 (PST) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] W's concern abt oil X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 01:24:51 - how does an economy that makes nothing survive? I'm a simple fella and that question has me worried You weather the storm until there are no more 'grass hut' economies. If we do our part, churning out popular culture that gets exported to everywhere, pretty soon everywhere will be like us. Then there's no problem anymore, and the transportation and language issues can again drive production back home. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] MSRP for 1986 190D
Johnny, From Bob Nitske's book: 1983 190D 2.2 (on East Coast) $23,510 1985 190D 2.2 (on West Coast) $23,810 1986 190D 2.5 (on East Coast) $23,700 1987 190D 2.5 Turbo (on East Coast) $29,800 1985 190D 2.5 in Germany DM33,915 (you will have to see what the DM vs $ was in '85) Hope this helps. Take care, Chuck 1986 190E 2.3 16V 1980 300SD On Feb 2, 2006, at 6:02 PM, John Berryman wrote: Anyone know what the MSRP was on 190Ds? . I'd like to see prices on all years 1984 right on up but am particularly interested in the cost of my 1986 190D 2.5 its a Euro grey market jammy. Does anyone still have a window sticker? Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Rusty W126
Rusty, Thanks for the great deal on the shocks for my SDL, you beat everyone else I price checked by a large margin. James S. Jetton 1987 300SDL 136k From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb 03 02:45:07 2006 Received: from xproxy.gmail.com ([66.249.82.194]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F4qwd-0008I7-0T for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 02:45:07 + Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s11so438631wxc for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 18:45:03 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=h1EwKb7X3pbhSfV4KUPI+sqz5Deb+4wLibVJHtrTjiJmTCsmiXc2u1xtjlGXoUDXELegqMjFN+gM8wwC43z2Vco/ebtywVNGe4JQGHVR3Ch+K4i+bSM99DTfidCeMWbd0AmVpLcZeWO0nrbi5SJmistT+tgAta7w95+D8We1ha0= Received: by 10.70.90.20 with SMTP id n20mr1567016wxb; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 18:45:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.123.14 with HTTP; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 18:45:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 20:45:02 -0600 From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ethanol X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 02:45:07 - I think HEET is Methanol or Isopropanol, not Ethanol. On 2/2/06, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here Here! 3 Cheers for LT Don! Does anyone remember HEET? We used to dump cans of HEET in our tanks in = the winter to prevent the water in gasoline from freezing. HEET was ethyl alcohol. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
Re: [MBZ] MSRP for 1986 190D
Chuck Landenberger wrote: 1985 190D 2.5 in Germany DM33,915 (you will have to see what the DM vs $ was in '85) I used to figure 3:1 in 1984/85. And a lot of used cars had the same price over there as over here. Auto Motor und Sport classifieds were great reading. A Citroen SM might run $10k or DM10k in the mid-1980's. The $6-7000 difference in price should cover shipping and conversion costs, but I never actually tried it. Old 911s were really cheap over there too. Even with cloth seats, no A/C or sunroof, crank windows, etc, I would have liked to pay $12k for a new 190D 2.5 back then. The value of the $ went to pot in 1986, and $ to DM ratio went closer to 2:1. In April '86, the Honda dealer I worked for sold bikes (retail) for less than we paid for them in June '86. IIRC, it was a relatively short period of time that the yen went from 1/200th of a dollar to 1/120th.
Re: [MBZ] W's concern abt oil
Sheesh -- there was a gas war bewteen two stations during my senior year. Dad came home and told me to go fill my tank (1951 VW). I only had $1.00 -- the tank wouldn't hold that much! The gas was $0.12/gal. I've never seen it that low since On 2/2/06, BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And an old man like me can remember $0.23 / gal back in high school - for my 1962 Corvair. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD EM 271k miles -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
[MBZ] ground hog cars
as always use delete key as needed http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130755830.html -- 190e stick http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130716898.html -- 67 230 $3k http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130709102.html -- 83 sec $2500 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130705086.html -- POS E320 $6k http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130700775.html -- 62 220Sb $500 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130694025.html -- 84 TD $1200 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130673999.html -- 84 SD $2k http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130651588.html -- Overprice CD http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130627501.html -- Fubar 280C http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130519707.html -- $3K SEL 86 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130600911.html -- 80 Stick 240D http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/13054.html -- Diesel Beemer http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130597021.html -- 90 SEL http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130563347.html -- 88 TE $3k http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130561023.html -- 280SEL $1200 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130473454.html -- 91 SE $4k http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130463104.html -- 81 SE $2k http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130447771.html -- 70 280se $1k http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130312860.html -- 67 250S $600 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130269376.html -- 91 190 2.6 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130253442.html -- 77 300d $2k http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130208253.html -- Casey car http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130184723.html -- 84 SEl $6k http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130135830.html -- 72 SEL $6500 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130134055.html -- 84 SE $1200 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130102927.html -- 68 SE $6k there are probably more out there but these are freshest -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Ethanol
Don't question your elders! On 2/2/06, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BZZZTTT on myself. You were right Don. Red bottle is 98% or 99% IsoPropo Yellow bottle is Methanol. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
Re: [MBZ] Rusty W126
SO Rusty -- are you being the great guy we all konw you are, OR are you telling us in a subtle way that you're clearing the stock of old parts for these obsolete cars, and we're the only market? ;-) Why didn't I read the list mail BEFORE I called in an order this morning? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
Re: [MBZ] MB EPC ON LINE
Yeah Tom... Had lunch w/Jim Friesen today and he pointed it out to me too. That's a mea culpa!.. Just one of those brain farts that happen now and then I'm old enough to get a free ride or two .. Or maybe it's just the result of driving the 16V and not the Queen, my 300SD. Thanks for clarifying my faux pax... Take care, Chuck On Feb 2, 2006, at 12:06 PM, Tom Scordato wrote: Chuck thanks just a quick clarification: EPC stands for electric parts catalog, or a fancy black parts picture book which gives MB part numbers. What Marshall posted is the Mercedes Benz manuals. Regards Tom Scordato - Original Message - From: Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 10:05 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB EPC ON LINE Hi all, Marshall Booth posted this site for EPC's a week or so ago... Give it a try:http://mb.braingears.com/ and pick your model... I've only gone to a few of the models, but it looks pretty complete.. And they're looking for somebody who could mirror this site. Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ 1986 190E 2.3 16V 1980 300SD On Feb 2, 2006, at 12:06 AM, Robert Tara Ludwick wrote: Most of the files in the 126 section lead to dead links, if you can find the same engine in one of the other chassis categories you may have better luck. --Robert ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] MTBE
Mitch Haley wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Surely no one who claims to be knowledgeable on oxgenated fuels would not know about MTBE and why Montana and Alaska prohibit it. Didn't the state of Commiefornia require its use in gasoline, and then sue the chemical companies which produced it and sold it to refineries because the companies produced a chemical which was required by law? I think the EPA forced it on them, actually. For a while it was the only approved oxygenating additive. Now a lot of places use ethanol, but there's been strong resistance by the oil companies when places using MTBE try to switch to it. See, MTBE they can manufacture themselves from byproducts; ethanol they have to buy.
Re: [MBZ] MTBE
Went summpin like dat! Calif was fighting to keep MTBE in gasoline and pure drinkin alcohol out of the gas. Seemed pretty weird to me. At 06:54 PM 2/2/2006, you wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Surely no one who claims to be knowledgeable on oxgenated fuels would not know about MTBE and why Montana and Alaska prohibit it. Didn't the state of Commiefornia require its use in gasoline, and then sue the chemical companies which produced it and sold it to refineries because the companies produced a chemical which was required by law? ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Fw: Fw: Re: Fw: Fwd: Computer Worm Scheduled To Activate February 3rd
The latest virus alert, with an editorial comment by my wife when I forwarded it home. Craig Begin forwarded message: Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 10:48:36 -0700 Subject: Fw: Re: Fw: Fwd: Computer Worm Scheduled To Activate February 3rd Hi, Hubby: I am SO glad we don't use Windows! What a disaster this will be. Should we forward this to people or what? I assume that wouldn't be good, but figured I'd ask anyway. I know Bob Janice use Windows. On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 09:57:44 -0700 Craig McCluskey wrote: Subject: Fwd: Computer Worm Scheduled To Activate February 3rd The worm identified in the message below is scheduled to activate February 3rd. Please make sure your virus definitions are up to date, and perform a full virus scan of your system today. As always, do not open attachments you are not expecting. == Message from CCN-5 CSIRT (Computer Security Incident Response Team) == Please alert all appropriate LANL computer users: The blackmal worm, aka nyxem.e or kama sutra worm, spreads primarily through email as an excutable attachment. It also attempts to spread through open shares. It has infected more than 700,000 Windows computers on the Internet, according to some estimates. Infections have been verified on several LANL computer systems. Blackmal has a dangerous payload that executes on the 3rd of each month. It deletes data files and disables security software. There is disagreement in the security community as to the extent of the threat posed by this worm. Some are hyping it the most dangerous malicious code infection of 2006. Others question the validity of the estimate of machines infected. It has generated concern because of its destructive qualities, and because it is set to execute and delete data and spread this Friday, February 3rd. The LANL Computer Security Incident Response Team (CSIRT) recommends that Windows users download the latest antivirus definition files and run a full system scan. It should be noted that while most computer systems have up-to-date definition files, not all systems are configured to run full scans on a routine basis. This should be completed prior to February 3rd. As a general best practice, computers should be backed up by an automatic system such as the CCN-7 managed Tivoli Storage Manager. The CSIRT recommends that users manually backup their data before February 3rd if they do not have automated backup configured for their computer systems. If there are difficulties operating an antivirus application, users should contact their system administrator. This may be an indicator of infection. If you have questions or concerns, or believe a system has been contaminated with blackmal, please contact the CSIRT. Thank you, Computer Security Incident Response Team
[MBZ] A Phishing Expedition
To all, I got an email tonight from the Bank of Oklahoma that is bogus. They've copied all the correct logos etc... I am not a customer of the bank.. DO NOT reply! I spoke w/someone from the bank and they are aware of it. The Bank website contains an explanation, but I never went there... Just a heads up... Chuck Phoenix...
Re: [MBZ] Ethanol
If Heet went belly up, why can I still buy Heet products? ~ ~The company that made Heet went belly up about 20 years ago. There have ~been different formulations over the years and some are methanol and others ~were ethanol or blends. ~ ~I also remember when the station in town had a drum of alcohol to put in ~the radiator for the oldtimers who didn't believe in Prestone or Zerex ~ ~We had a neighbor who drive his Model T until he died. ~ -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (230,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (158,222 kmi) '90 300E '82 300D (parts or run?)
Re: [MBZ] OT - UK metric?
I assume this is correct information: http://lamar.colostate.edu/~hillger/internat.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig McCluskey Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 10:08 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - UK metric? On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 19:10:33 -0500 wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has UK gone metric? Uh ... yes ... many years ago. Craig ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] more 7
Trained seals. On 2/2/06, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 12:09:15 -0500 Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: W123 Front Rear Brake Kit Front Wheel Seals Rear Wheel Seals Rusty, What kind of seals are these? Craig ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
[MBZ] Ethanol
-- Message: 3 Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 22:25:12 -0600 From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ethanol To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed The company that made Heet went belly up about 20 years ago. There have been different formulations over the years and some are methanol and others were ethanol or blends. I also remember when the station in town had a drum of alcohol to put in the radiator for the oldtimers who didn't believe in Prestone or Zerex We had a neighbor who drive his Model T until he died. At 08:45 PM 2/2/2006, you wrote: I think HEET is Methanol or Isopropanol, not Ethanol. On 2/2/06, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here Here! 3 Cheers for LT Don! Does anyone remember HEET? We used to dump cans of HEET in our tanks in the winter to prevent the water in gasoline from freezing. HEET was ethyl alcohol. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go ___ The last two bottles of HEET I bought, the main ingredient was methanol. I didn't put in my radiator, but I did put it in my windshield washer fluid tank :) Roger _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] W's concern abt oil
Another scenario is that skyrocketing fuel costs will eventually make it less attractive to have things made in China and shipped over here, as the high shipping costs will offset the cheapness of the labor. Lee On Thursday 02 February 2006 6:24, Jim Cathey wrote: how does an economy that makes nothing survive? I'm a simple fella and that question has me worried You weather the storm until there are no more 'grass hut' economies. If we do our part, churning out popular culture that gets exported to everywhere, pretty soon everywhere will be like us. Then there's no problem anymore, and the transportation and language issues can again drive production back home. -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] W's concern abt oil
thats a good point lee wrote: Another scenario is that skyrocketing fuel costs will eventually make it less attractive to have things made in China and shipped over here, as the high shipping costs will offset the cheapness of the labor. Lee On Thursday 02 February 2006 6:24, Jim Cathey wrote: how does an economy that makes nothing survive? I'm a simple fella and that question has me worried You weather the storm until there are no more 'grass hut' economies. If we do our part, churning out popular culture that gets exported to everywhere, pretty soon everywhere will be like us. Then there's no problem anymore, and the transportation and language issues can again drive production back home. -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Rusty W126
Your welcome. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Jetton Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 9:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rusty W126 Rusty, Thanks for the great deal on the shocks for my SDL, you beat everyone else I price checked by a large margin. James S. Jetton 1987 300SDL 136k ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Rusty W126
Just being a GREAT guy. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 10:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rusty W126 SO Rusty -- are you being the great guy we all konw you are, OR are you telling us in a subtle way that you're clearing the stock of old parts for these obsolete cars, and we're the only market? ;-) Why didn't I read the list mail BEFORE I called in an order this morning? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Drain exits
Bruce - You have that wrong. SD's and SDL's have 'sunrooms'. CD's just have holes in the roof. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD EM 271k -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of B Dike Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 10:59 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] Drain exits Where are the sunroom drain exits for the 85 300CD? Many thanks, Bruce 82 300CD 334kmi 'His' 85 300CD 240kmi 'Hers' 75 240D 202kmi 'Donner' 77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen' 73 220D 'It' - Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OT: Smoky VW diesel when cold
Hey Johnny, Have you ever tried the Powerservice 911, the stuff in the red bottle? It purports Reliquefies gelled fuel in minutes - no tow truck needed I'm curious how that would work, like if you've got gelled fuel in the filter how does the stuff get there? They've got a great animation on their website www.powerservice.com that shows a test tube demo but its not like you can pick up and shake your car... -Curt Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 16:29:19 -0500 From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Smoky VW diesel when cold To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed I've had trouble with sitting cars starting in dead cold when they were last fueled prior to winterized fuel season. I let a couple of cars wait until spring before starting them one year. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am - Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb 03 15:59:48 2006 Received: from pop-siberian.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([207.69.195.71]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F53Lg-0005pZ-8G for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 15:59:48 + Received: from user-10mt01r.cable.mindspring.com ([65.110.128.59] helo=earthlink.net) by pop-siberian.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #10) id 1F53Le-bM-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 10:59:46 -0500 Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 10:59:47 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Smoky VW diesel when cold X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 15:59:48 - On Friday, February 3, 2006, at 10:04 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: Hey Johnny, Have you ever tried the Powerservice 911, the stuff in the red bottle? It purports Reliquefies gelled fuel in minutes - no tow truck needed I'm curious how that would work, like if you've got gelled fuel in the filter how does the stuff get there? They've got a great animation on their website www.powerservice.com that shows a test tube demo but its not like you can pick up and shake your car... -Curt I've used it for algae/h2o but without enough heat the fuel will not flow, so the cure can't get to the problem. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
[MBZ] CL Diesel 'Burb In Milwakee
http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/car/130886345.html No affiliation, ect. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb 03 16:23:54 2006 Received: from xproxy.gmail.com ([66.249.82.203]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F53iv-xS-JK for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 16:23:50 + Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s11so566138wxc for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 08:23:45 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s¾ta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=Z/vkB5z70qdjDa9ygl9r2IcEnaBrh7rx95HVuQV2FUaudMNym9q8fgGk3y7gOEXBgK+Y6A2jI2nuTyIniMPQ9yjUD3zRS+EC3Imm98Ngy71OR4JL6C3e86H04aBDX0j40yZR1Og6/e05WBRLh23w7FIjtf6fViIFlzmV0Ms8YIYReceived: by 10.70.60.11 with SMTP id i11mr2361968wxa; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 08:23:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.65.10 with HTTP; Fri, 3 Feb 2006 08:23:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 10:23:45 -0600 From: Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: [MBZ] power windows fail - coinsidence? X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 16:23:54 - Is it just a coincidence that both, the R/F and L/R window motors went south at the same time or could there be an underlying problem. First I suspected a bad fuse since these windows are on the same circuit, but that all checked good. Traced it down to a bad motor at R/Fhttp://skinnerbox.steaky.org/Service/Library.html and blamed the L/R on a bad switch in the door. The plastic housing had buckled and didn't keep the rocker in place. A new motor fixed the front door. Just now I got a new swith for the rear (Oh, procrastination is so sweet) and it is now evident that the motor is out. -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
[MBZ] best way to clean MB-Tex?
I'm picking up my new 300D tomorrow - what's the best way to clean MB-Tex? After 280Kmi, they don't look as good as they should. Also, anyone know of a way to fix a missing patch of Tex? It's small, but annoying. -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] power windows fail - coinsidence?
On Friday, February 3, 2006, at 11:23 AM, Hans Neureiter wrote: Is it just a coincidence that both, the R/F and L/R window motors went south at the same time or could there be an underlying problem. First I suspected a bad fuse since these windows are on the same circuit, but that all checked good. Traced it down to a bad motor at R/Fhttp://skinnerbox.steaky.org/Service/Library.html and blamed the L/R on a bad switch in the door. The plastic housing had buckled and didn't keep the rocker in place. A new motor fixed the front door. Just now I got a new swith for the rear (Oh, procrastination is so sweet) and it is now evident that the motor is out. I would call it coincidence if the RF now works and LR doesn't. I'd look at (change) the fuse anyway and look into the feed for that circuit. Connections often get hot enough to melt plastic connectors and deform the metal contact area. Have you hooked an external power source (jump box, spare battery or DC power supply) directly to the motor leads? Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] W's concern abt oil
Well, I certainly wouldn't go buy a new Subaru. I bought my 97' with 92K miles for about $7400 around 6 years ago. It's got 212K on it now and other than an alternator around 140K, all it's needed was a water pump last week. Though I'll agree, the mileage might not be that much better than some truck you're considering if it's small enough. However, if it's a Chevy, I could almost guarantee the Sube would be more reliable. However, if you find yourself hardly ever carrying more than two people and frequently using the bed, then the truck might be the better bet. (though personally I'd go find a used Toyota at that point). The E-bikes are kind of like the E-cars. They work well (you can use them without pedalling at all), but they're greatly effected by hills. And if you don't pedal at all, they can drain pretty quick. But you can travel at around maybe 12mph with a pretty gental pedal on flat pavement. you can do 20mph or better if you're willing to really go at it. It just all depends on the conditions as to how well they will work. The nice part with them is that the chargers are small enough that if you use up the juice on the way to work, you could pop off the battery (even if you leave your bike outside) and plug it in at work so it's good to go for the ride home. I bought a second battery for fear of running out. Problem is the weight. I bought a rack, but it's hard to keep that 35lbs-ish of battery back there without falling off if you go over anything rough... And it feels like I'm pulling the seams apart if I try to put it in a backpack... Levi (: On 2/3/06, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Levi, I wonder if one of the electric bike add-ons would work for my wife? Its her need to walk those stupid dogs that keeps her from just using her bike full time. Theres nowhere to shower at work so she'd end up being all sweaty in the afternoon. I commute 40 miles a day and we have adverse weather here in New England (plenty of ice this year) and I've never had a problem with my 240D. The 190D should cut my fuel usage by 1/3. As for camp, its 3/4 of a mile of pretty rough road, a Subaru might cut it but spending $20,000 on a new car just doesn't make any sense. I can buy a tremendous amount of gas for that money. A Colorado pickup is only going to $16k or so, the extra money to get into the Subaru doesn't make any sense for the small amount of gas saved. If you go over to fueleconomy.gov and compare the small engine manual shift for each the Subaru is 4mpg better, which breaks down to only $269 a year more for the pickup -Curt Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 16:30:39 -0500 From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] W's concern abt oil To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sounds like you could probably do most of your work with just a car and trailer. I used to have a little Toyota 4wd pickup for the occasional hauling of something, but I finally figured out that it just didn't make sense. Between the registration, inspection, insurance and general upkeep, it was costing a good chunk of change for the handful of times we used it a year. I've since just got a little 4x8 trailer with side racks. That works for hauling mulch or the flail mower or barrels or trash or whatnot. It works fine behind my 83' 300D, and either of my 97' Subaru Imprezas. Not sure how rough the terrain is to your campsite, but if you don't need more than about 5 inches of ground clearance a Subaru would probably work for you there as well. I live like 40 miles from where I work, but generally I'm only over here 4 days a week and my parents live about 8 miles from work. So lately I've been staying here for the 3 nights. It's a bit cold here in upstate NY this time of year and sometimes adverse road conditions, but come summer I think I'm going to try my electric bike. You can still pedal, but if you want to go faster or need some help up a hill you can kick in the electric. The problem where I live is the hills. If I lived on flat land I'd be on the bike no question. It can be done with a regular bicycle, but it takes some time and effort. I'm hoping the electric bike won't run out of juice up the hill. But I have about 600-800 feet to climb from work back up to my parents. And of course there's valleys in the way depending on which way I go, so more hills. I agree, I'd love an electric or otherwise more efficient vehicle. I'm just trying to use my 83' 300D on oil during the summer season. Once I get that figured out I might try it in the winter... (: Levi - Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
[MBZ] MBs with Dual wheels
Does anyone remember the dual wheels at every corner option? What years/models were they offered in? What was the thinking behind this feature? Price of this option? When/why was it discontinued? Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb 03 17:11:28 2006 Received: from xproxy.gmail.com ([66.249.82.195]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F54T2-0007Zk-BC for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 17:11:28 + Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s11so574812wxc for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 09:11:26 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=GX5/t8QqYnH3Q5vrzWw6IborOhb/d38vsjRI3SXAvxOnQ46a5qL/E3EbB11o42HqX87wjqUKk7MJAPJRkmHku3MYd+WpmcCb3U+hKGSEYsaNnUqOijX/F9kzqR7wzI4mI0L7QBOkrxHsUSR85lZedYcAUwgzuHyLboZbHYY+n6U= Received: by 10.70.31.8 with SMTP id e8mr2460461wxe; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 09:11:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.65.10 with HTTP; Fri, 3 Feb 2006 09:11:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 11:11:26 -0600 From: Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] best way to clean MB-Tex? X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 17:11:28 - Scotchguard makes a product for upholstery cleaning. Spay on, let it foam and scrub with a brush. Works rerally good. On 2/3/06, Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sunil - you can try some of the Leatherique products on the MBTex - it seems to work on vinyl about as well as anything, and won't hurt it, either. I've used it on my MB and even F150 dash, and it does make it look better and appears to keep it from drying out, too. Werner - Original Message - From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 11:32 AM Subject: [MBZ] best way to clean MB-Tex? I'm picking up my new 300D tomorrow - what's the best way to clean MB-Tex? After 280Kmi, they don't look as good as they should. Also, anyone know of a way to fix a missing patch of Tex? It's small, but annoying. -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
Re: [MBZ] best way to clean MB-Tex?
Hans - While upholstery foaming cleaners work great on upholstery, I would think that they would tend to dry out hard surfaces such as leather or MBtex (vinyl). That's why I use the Leatherique cleaner followed by Rejuvenator to try and keep some of the oils in the material. Perhaps just a matter of preference? Werner - Original Message - From: Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 12:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] best way to clean MB-Tex? Scotchguard makes a product for upholstery cleaning. Spay on, let it foam and scrub with a brush. Works rerally good. On 2/3/06, Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sunil - you can try some of the Leatherique products on the MBTex - it seems to work on vinyl about as well as anything, and won't hurt it, either. I've used it on my MB and even F150 dash, and it does make it look better and appears to keep it from drying out, too. Werner - Original Message - From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 11:32 AM Subject: [MBZ] best way to clean MB-Tex? I'm picking up my new 300D tomorrow - what's the best way to clean MB-Tex? After 280Kmi, they don't look as good as they should. Also, anyone know of a way to fix a missing patch of Tex? It's small, but annoying. -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] power windows fail - coinsidence?
On Friday, February 3, 2006, at 12:06 PM, Hans Neureiter wrote: Jep. That's how I diagnosed the front motor and now the rear. Just too weird that both of them crapped out simultaneously and the switch distorted. My suspicion is that this circuit may had low voltage and overloaded the motors. But than on the other hand, the fuse should have blown. Its possible that it lost enough current through a corroded connection to damage the motors without blowing a fuse. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] best way to clean MB-Tex?
I go afterwards with a dose of Armorall. Leatherique sounds french and is rediculous expensive. On 2/3/06, Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hans - While upholstery foaming cleaners work great on upholstery, I would think that they would tend to dry out hard surfaces such as leather or MBtex (vinyl). That's why I use the Leatherique cleaner followed by Rejuvenator to try and keep some of the oils in the material. Perhaps just a matter of preference? Werner - Original Message - From: Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 12:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] best way to clean MB-Tex? Scotchguard makes a product for upholstery cleaning. Spay on, let it foam and scrub with a brush. Works rerally good. On 2/3/06, Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sunil - you can try some of the Leatherique products on the MBTex - it seems to work on vinyl about as well as anything, and won't hurt it, either. I've used it on my MB and even F150 dash, and it does make it look better and appears to keep it from drying out, too. Werner - Original Message - From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 11:32 AM Subject: [MBZ] best way to clean MB-Tex? I'm picking up my new 300D tomorrow - what's the best way to clean MB-Tex? After 280Kmi, they don't look as good as they should. Also, anyone know of a way to fix a missing patch of Tex? It's small, but annoying. -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
Re: [MBZ] Rear half shafts
Yep, the diagnosis was head gasket. This indie is not very talkative and we have never met face to face. So he says it was a head gasket, so I just have to be satisfied with that. He's the kind of guy that won't offer any more information than he has to. In fact he didn't call us to let us know the car was done. Who knows when he would've called. It's not like we're not giving him a lot of money. Hey, as long as he's skilled and honest, things will be just fine. Brian 83 240D From: Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear half shafts Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 19:46:23 -0600 By the way, the new (used) engine is reportedly in and running well. We should be picking 'er up in a few weeks. Brian 83 240D Congrats Brian. Did a postmortem ever get performed on the old engine to determine the cause of its demise? Just curious Rick Knoble '85 300 CD ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] best way to clean MB-Tex?
Hans - I believe the consensus of many on these nets over the years has been to avoid Armorall if at all possible. I've found that the stuff leaves a coating that eventually really makes a mess of things. Definitely you don't want to put that on any of the leather surfaces commonly found in a lot of Mercedes-Benz cars. Leatherique may sound French, but I'm sure George and Kristi Pavlisko wouldn't say that it is. And Rusty carries their products - so its easy to get. And after you've seen the stuff work on real leather, it appears to be worth every penny. Werner - Original Message - From: Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] best way to clean MB-Tex? I go afterwards with a dose of Armorall. Leatherique sounds french and is rediculous expensive. On 2/3/06, Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hans - While upholstery foaming cleaners work great on upholstery, I would think that they would tend to dry out hard surfaces such as leather or MBtex (vinyl). That's why I use the Leatherique cleaner followed by Rejuvenator to try and keep some of the oils in the material. Perhaps just a matter of preference? Werner - Original Message - From: Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 12:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] best way to clean MB-Tex? Scotchguard makes a product for upholstery cleaning. Spay on, let it foam and scrub with a brush. Works rerally good. On 2/3/06, Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sunil - you can try some of the Leatherique products on the MBTex - it seems to work on vinyl about as well as anything, and won't hurt it, either. I've used it on my MB and even F150 dash, and it does make it look better and appears to keep it from drying out, too. Werner - Original Message - From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 11:32 AM Subject: [MBZ] best way to clean MB-Tex? I'm picking up my new 300D tomorrow - what's the best way to clean MB-Tex? After 280Kmi, they don't look as good as they should. Also, anyone know of a way to fix a missing patch of Tex? It's small, but annoying. -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] best way to clean MB-Tex?
Werner Fehlauer wrote: Hans - I believe the consensus of many on these nets over the years has been to avoid Armorall if at all possible. I've found that the stuff leaves a coating that eventually really makes a mess of things. It also outgasses and fogs up your windshield.
Re: [MBZ] best way to clean MB-Tex?
Hi Sunil, I use Meguiar's vinyl cleaner - it works great. Spray on liberally, scrub with a stiff bristled brush, wipe off with a clean cloth (which won't stay clean very long). It's quite a bit of work but the Tex should clean up nicely. Don't waste money on Leatherique, that stuff is magic on real leather, but Tex won't soak it up like leather does. Yes it will work as a cleaner, but the cost is prohibitive. If you can't find Meguiar's vinyl cleaner at your FLAPS, I'd use whatever vinyl cleaner you can locate. :) -Dave M. -- Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 11:32:45 -0500 From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] best way to clean MB-Tex? I'm picking up my new 300D tomorrow - what's the best way to clean MB-Tex? After 280Kmi, they don't look as good as they should. Also, anyone know of a way to fix a missing patch of Tex? It's small, but annoying. -- Sunil Hari
[MBZ] biodiesel bumped
During my lunch break, I drove to our town's truck stop (a five mile round trip from my office) intent on giving the 240D its first taste of B20 fuel. The biodiesel was gone from the sign, replaced by #1 diesel. Went in and asked if they still had B20, and was told that they wouldn't be carrying it again until spring. I took that to mean that they are using the B20's storage tank for #1 diesel during the winter months. Bummer. -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] OT - UK metric?
Now where is my metric Cresent wrench. On 2/3/06, Potter, Tom E [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I assume this is correct information: http://lamar.colostate.edu/~hillger/internat.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig McCluskey Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 10:08 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - UK metric? On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 19:10:33 -0500 wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has UK gone metric? Uh ... yes ... many years ago. Craig ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OT - UK metric?
I just wish the US would switch over instead of doing it half*. I just removed a 700R4 transmission from a GMC truck last week. The bolts connecting the housing to the engine were SAE, but the bolts connecting the torque converter to the flexplate were metric. What an abomination. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rory Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 1:30 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - UK metric? Now where is my metric Cresent wrench. On 2/3/06, Potter, Tom E [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I assume this is correct information: http://lamar.colostate.edu/~hillger/internat.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig McCluskey Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 10:08 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - UK metric? On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 19:10:33 -0500 wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has UK gone metric? Uh ... yes ... many years ago. Craig ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] ground hog cars
The 108 280SE cars both looked great and the one for $950 looked like a truly good deal! On 2/2/06, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: as always use delete key as needed http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130755830.html -- 190e stick http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130716898.html -- 67 230 $3k http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130709102.html -- 83 sec $2500 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130705086.html -- POS E320 $6k http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130700775.html -- 62 220Sb $500 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130694025.html -- 84 TD $1200 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130673999.html -- 84 SD $2k http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130651588.html -- Overprice CD http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130627501.html -- Fubar 280C http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130519707.html -- $3K SEL 86 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130600911.html -- 80 Stick 240D http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/13054.html -- Diesel Beemer http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130597021.html -- 90 SEL http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130563347.html -- 88 TE $3k http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130561023.html -- 280SEL $1200 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130473454.html -- 91 SE $4k http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130463104.html -- 81 SE $2k http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130447771.html -- 70 280se $1k http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130312860.html -- 67 250S $600 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130269376.html -- 91 190 2.6 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130253442.html -- 77 300d $2k http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130208253.html -- Casey car http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130184723.html -- 84 SEl $6k http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130135830.html -- 72 SEL $6500 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130134055.html -- 84 SE $1200 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130102927.html -- 68 SE $6k there are probably more out there but these are freshest -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] B20
-- From: LT Don During my lunch break, I drove to our town's truck stop (a five mile round trip from my office) intent on giving the 240D its first taste of B20 fuel. The biodiesel was gone from the sign, replaced by #1 diesel. Went in and asked if they still had B20, and was told that they wouldn't be carrying it again until spring. I took that to mean that they are using the B20's storage tank for #1 diesel during the winter months. Bummer. -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle -- Thats strange I've be running B20 as my winter fuel. Roger _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement
Re: [MBZ] B20
They're just scared after what happened north of them. But what they don't know is, trucks running BioD may have problems with fuel filters during the summer too! The general public is largely VERY unedumicated about BioD and how it will clean out the Dino crap left in your tank and fuel lines. Oh well, let them be ignorant. Luther ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~Thats strange I've be running B20 as my winter fuel. ~ ~Roger ~ -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (230,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (158,222 kmi) '90 300E '82 300D (parts or run?)
Re: [MBZ] B20
In Iowa, they sell a winter mix of 30% #1 and 70% #2. On 2/3/06, Roger Conlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- From: LT Don During my lunch break, I drove to our town's truck stop (a five mile round trip from my office) intent on giving the 240D its first taste of B20 fuel. The biodiesel was gone from the sign, replaced by #1 diesel. Went in and asked if they still had B20, and was told that they wouldn't be carrying it again until spring. I took that to mean that they are using the B20's storage tank for #1 diesel during the winter months. Bummer. -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle -- Thats strange I've be running B20 as my winter fuel. Roger _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
[MBZ] what IS the diesel noise?
I'm talking about a perfectly healthy purring engine. I'm thinking: 1. Injection pump getting fuel up to pressure (BTW, what pressure does the fuel inject at on an OM617? OM603?) 2. The detonation under higher compression Thanks! Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1992 Volkswagen Golf, diesel, 185K km, Nanook -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 211K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb 03 20:22:52 2006 Received: from wnpgmb02-group-smtpout.mts.net ([142.161.130.102] helo=mx-mtaout02.mts.net) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F57SG-0001vb-Dd for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 20:22:52 + Received: from wnpgmb02-c600c.mts.net ([172.17.170.22]) by mx-mtaout02.mts.net with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 3 Feb 2006 14:22:50 -0600 Received: from wnpgmb09dc1-64-231.dynamic.mts.net (HELO one) ([142.161.64.231]) by wnpgmb02-c600c.mts.net with SMTP; 03 Feb 2006 14:22:49 -0600 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AA== X-IronPort-AV: i=4.02,85,1139205600; d=scan'208; a=44402580:sNHT42698292 From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 14:28:44 -0800 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] best way to REPAIR MB-Tex? X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 20:22:52 - Come on folks - I've been watching this thread all day for the difinitive answer to the question about repair and no one has noted it at all. All of the response so far has related to the issue of cleaning it. My driver's seat has a small hole where one of the springs has worn through the horsehair pad. What is my best bet on a repair? My basic thought was to obtain some cream colored vinyl - naughahyde or whatever - and just lay it in under the seatcovering material. I wasn't sure if it should be glued or otherwise attached or if it might reasonably stay put just by itself. Anyone been there and done that? Randy B - Original Message - From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 11:32 AM Subject: [MBZ] best way to clean MB-Tex? I'm picking up my new 300D tomorrow - what's the best way to clean MB-Tex? After 280Kmi, they don't look as good as they should. Also, anyone know of a way to fix a missing patch of Tex? It's small, but annoying. -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] power windows fail - coinsidence?
Hans Neureiter wrote: Is it just a coincidence that both, the R/F and L/R window motors went south at the same time or could there be an underlying problem. First I suspected a bad fuse since these windows are on the same circuit, but that all checked good. Traced it down to a bad motor at R/Fhttp://skinnerbox.steaky.org/Service/Library.html and blamed the L/R on a bad switch in the door. The plastic housing had buckled and didn't keep the rocker in place. A new motor fixed the front door. Just now I got a new swith for the rear (Oh, procrastination is so sweet) and it is now evident that the motor is out. DID you REPLACE the fuse? Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] best way to REPAIR MB-Tex?
On Fri, 3 Feb 2006 14:28:44 -0800, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : Come on folks - I've been watching this thread all day for the difinitive answer to the question about repair and no one has noted it at all. All of the response so far has related to the issue of cleaning it. That is because there is no good way to repair a hole. In my experience the hole is caused by a broken spring and worn out pad. You can lay material under the tex and glue a piece on top. The top piece will shortly fuzz up on the edges. For the cost of the spring and pad you can probably find a used seat with decent srings and pad without a hole. Alan Duff Knoxville, TN
Re: [MBZ] Not so new Benz diesel
Interesting article here on new Benz Diesel. http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Followup/articleId=102283 Except that's not the new diesel. The REALLY new 3.2 V-6 four-cam 3rd generation CDI engine is due maybe later this year as an '07. The UK magazine Mercedes Enthusiast published a road test of a C-Class with the V-6 diesel last year and raved about it. As good as the in-line six is, the V-6 eclipses it in performance and fuel economy. RLE
Re: [MBZ] best way to clean MB-Tex?
Yeah I have heard as well that Armourall is a no go for the dash. It has been suggested that sunscreen is the thing for the dash but I would be carefull of what I would use on the tex because if you wear a white shirt and some of the treatment comes off, the white shirt might not be so white anymore. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 4:36 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] best way to clean MB-Tex? Sunil, I have found good results w/Meguir's #40 Vinyl Cleaner. Available in most MacParts stores. And from past discussions, Armorall will dry out the MBTex, Dashes, etc. Maybe just Urban Legend, but I do believe it has a rather high content of alcohol... Take care, Chuck On Feb 3, 2006, at 10:19 AM, Werner Fehlauer wrote: Hans - While upholstery foaming cleaners work great on upholstery, I would think that they would tend to dry out hard surfaces such as leather or MBtex (vinyl). That's why I use the Leatherique cleaner followed by Rejuvenator to try and keep some of the oils in the material. Perhaps just a matter of preference? Werner - Original Message - From: Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 12:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] best way to clean MB-Tex? Scotchguard makes a product for upholstery cleaning. Spay on, let it foam and scrub with a brush. Works rerally good. On 2/3/06, Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sunil - you can try some of the Leatherique products on the MBTex - it seems to work on vinyl about as well as anything, and won't hurt it, either. I've used it on my MB and even F150 dash, and it does make it look better and appears to keep it from drying out, too. Werner - Original Message - From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 11:32 AM Subject: [MBZ] best way to clean MB-Tex? I'm picking up my new 300D tomorrow - what's the best way to clean MB-Tex? After 280Kmi, they don't look as good as they should. Also, anyone know of a way to fix a missing patch of Tex? It's small, but annoying. -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.15.0/248 - Release Date: 1/02/2006
Re: [MBZ] what IS the diesel noise?
Christopher McCann wrote: I'm talking about a perfectly healthy purring engine. I'm thinking: 1. Injection pump getting fuel up to pressure (BTW, what pressure does the fuel inject at on an OM617? OM603?) 2. The detonation under higher compression New injector injection pressure for a non-turbo OM61x/60x Mercedes diesels is 115-125 bar (1667-1812 psi) and 135-145 bar (1957-2102 psi) for turbos. The noise you hear from a diesel engine is the sound of combustion. It can be made VERY quiet if the interior of the prechamber is very very precise. As it accumulates residue or if the injection spray pattern and pressure isn't precise, the noise increases. The properties of the fuel also contribute to noise. Using noise as a tool to measure the condition of a diesel is foolish. A perfect Cummins or Ford diesel makes one heck of a lot of racket at idle while a Mercedes diesel shouldn't, but it takes only a tiny flaw (a little soot in the prechamber, a little nozzle coking or some air or water in the fuel) to make the Mercedes sound as bad as the Cummins or Ford. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] what IS the diesel noise?
Danke Doktor! Chris Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christopher McCann wrote: I'm talking about a perfectly healthy purring engine. I'm thinking: 1. Injection pump getting fuel up to pressure (BTW, what pressure does the fuel inject at on an OM617? OM603?) 2. The detonation under higher compression New injector injection pressure for a non-turbo OM61x/60x Mercedes diesels is 115-125 bar (1667-1812 psi) and 135-145 bar (1957-2102 psi) for turbos. The noise you hear from a diesel engine is the sound of combustion. It can be made VERY quiet if the interior of the prechamber is very very precise. As it accumulates residue or if the injection spray pattern and pressure isn't precise, the noise increases. The properties of the fuel also contribute to noise. Using noise as a tool to measure the condition of a diesel is foolish. A perfect Cummins or Ford diesel makes one heck of a lot of racket at idle while a Mercedes diesel shouldn't, but it takes only a tiny flaw (a little soot in the prechamber, a little nozzle coking or some air or water in the fuel) to make the Mercedes sound as bad as the Cummins or Ford. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1992 Volkswagen Golf, diesel, 185K km, Nanook -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 211K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb 03 21:13:10 2006 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.162.207]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F58Ew-00072a-Hd for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 21:13:10 + Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i1so832147nzh for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 13:13:09 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:from:to:references:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole; b=CSmc/9W84B3BqT069Nb1dOWcJJa7Y0xZf2rarjQ0cjcPIggiRgMGmdexz9IR7ZgOJzm7ePGjyfAoS/p02mQ/TkFAcSpSGgVs3fkLFCVf+CdcZ3KyU5MqMFJgbFQsv9qr3y0bA32oYUJ6eOOytbildOnuLbv0JyYagUXrOjBcJfU= Received: by 10.36.88.7 with SMTP id l7mr1820224nzb; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 13:13:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from hppav4025 ( [24.250.156.146]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c1sm1666105nzd.2006.02.03.13.13.07; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 13:13:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: kayoooh @ gmail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 15:13:07 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: [MBZ] Another VIN check please. X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 21:13:10 - Hello Kaleb, If these reports are still available, I'd appreciate getting one for this VIN: WDBAB50AXBB006978. Thank you for all your help, Omar.
[MBZ] Cars and electric bikes and such
Levi,
I apparently have really great luck, I have a Dakota pickup now and its been
very reliable. Broke down once but that was my own fault for ignoring a
waterpump that was telling me it was time. My '88 GMC Jimmy was really
terrific, only breakdown on that was a fuel pump which again was telling me it
was time in advance.
I almost never find myself with a bunch of people in the car, the Dakota is
extended cab but we've only ever had more than 2 of us in it twice in 7 years.
On the electric bike front where I live is very hilly but I'm thinking it
might be enough to just have some assistance climbing back up to our house and
over to the place where my wife walks the dogs. I'll hafta look into it.
-Curt
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Subject: [MBZ] How I found this Group
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Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
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Would be interesting to find out how people came to be on this list(or
=A2 the previous mbz.org)
When I was young, I walked 2 miles to school, uphill both ways. The
rich guy who owned the mill would drive his Mercedes by and splash mud
on the pants my dear Mother had made me. Some day I was going to be
like him.
I swore than to make it big as an accordion player, doing weddings,
funerals and retirement parties (from the mill) to earn big bucks.
Diligence has it's rewards, I was able to purchase a 10 year old IBM
8088 for it's original values, you see the mill owners son had opened
a computer store in the center of town, next to his sister's Bordello
that I had a day gig in.
It was an exciting time, I mastered AOL in 6 months flat!
A Giggle search helped me find the list in about 1999. I lurked for 3
weeks, so as to find all of the inner secrets of the Klatta
Brotherhood as we are known to the outer world. I found out that
Diesel fuel was much cheaper than regular gas, M/B parts were readily
available, and even even a cowboy from Oklahoma could handle repairs!
I was also learned of this Trusty Rusty fellow who scratched out a
living in central Georgia selling M/B parts, cars and BBQ. {I must
digress, being a northerner; I feel a certain responsibility to
support the revival of the South. To this day I still drink nothing
but Kentucky Whiskey}
Rusty had a very nice 300SDL, the deal was consummated. Wife and I
flew down, jumped into the car and drove it like we stole it.
Regrets, I have a few;
We never made a BBQ
Sorry Willie!
I really should have looked harder for a 240D Manny. I actually meet
an old fellow in New Hampshire who was driving a mid80's with 58,000
miles on it. He had bought it new and stored it in the barn during
salt season it had -0- rust!. I offered him obscene money for it
{$5,000}. He promised to keep my name next to his registration in the
event he is forced to sell. More my type of car, I like simple things.
I've never had a Yo-Yo I couldn't fix.
I should have painted my car a week after I got it.
Nice group of folks on this list, even the contrary ones are not rude.
I've driven my car about 100,000 miles. Not a cheap ride but very
reliable if you pay attention and do maintenance in a timely manor. My
wife likes to ride but not drive it. She is very uncomfortable with
the lethargic acceleration from rest.
That's my story, I'm sticking to it!
Pete Arnold
Windsor, CT
Re: [MBZ] best way to clean MB-Tex?
I'll second Meguirs as good stuff and add a kick to Armorall. I put Armorall on a snowmobile seat not long ago, really soaked the stuff to it, the seat was hardened a bit from age and it immediately appeared to soften but over the next month or so got even more brittle than before. The seatback on that snowmobile is a separate piece of the same material, I hit that with Meguirs, I think I acutally used leather treatment, I can't remember exactly. That also softened the material but it didn't harden back up. The first time I rode the snowmobile the seat split all to pieces the seatback is fine. I was surprised by this so I seriously beat on the seatback thinking it survived only because I wasn't actually sitting on it. I couldn't make it split... I threw the armorall in the trash. -Curt Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 11:06:04 -0700 From: Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] best way to clean MB-Tex? To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Sunil, I have found good results w/Meguir's #40 Vinyl Cleaner. Available in most MacParts stores. And from past discussions, Armorall will dry out the MBTex, Dashes, etc. Maybe just Urban Legend, but I do believe it has a rather high content of alcohol... Take care, Chuck - Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb 03 21:45:26 2006 Received: from smtp1hou.williams.com ([151.142.221.60] helo=smtp2.williams.com) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F58kA-0002TI-Sv for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 21:45:26 + Received: from unknown (HELO wmshoubh01.WILLIAMS.COM) ([172.31.6.11]) by smtp2.williams.com with ESMTP; 03 Feb 2006 15:45:24 -0600 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AQAAA+k= X-IronPort-AV: i=4.02,85,1139205600; d=scan'208; a=32833089:sNHT36225008 Received: from wmshoumb01.WILLIAMS.COM ([172.31.41.244]) by wmshoubh01.WILLIAMS.COM with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 3 Feb 2006 15:45:38 -0600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 15:45:37 -0600 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [MBZ] How I found this Group Thread-Index: AcYpCq800fU5q2D7QjO8/mbEWRMORgAAGKWA From: Potter, Tom E [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Feb 2006 21:45:38.0072 (UTC) FILETIME=[2BAC2980:01C6290B] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] How I found this Group X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 21:45:27 - You sure you not from the south; you sure tell a good yarn. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter T. Arnold Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 3:41 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] How I found this Group Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: =20 Would be interesting to find out how people came to be on this list(or =A2 the previous mbz.org) When I was young, I walked 2 miles to school, uphill both ways. The rich guy who owned the mill would drive his Mercedes by and splash mud on the pants my dear Mother had made me. Some day I was going to be like him. I swore than to make it big as an accordion player, doing weddings, funerals and retirement parties (from the mill) to earn big bucks. Diligence has it's rewards, I was able to purchase a 10 year old IBM 8088 for it's original values, you see the mill owners son had opened a computer store in the center of town, next to his sister's Bordello that I had a day gig in. It was an exciting time, I mastered AOL in 6 months flat! A Giggle search helped me find the list in about 1999. I lurked for 3 weeks, so as to find all of the inner secrets of the Klatta Brotherhood as we are known to the outer world. I found out that Diesel fuel was much cheaper than regular gas, M/B parts were readily available, and even even a cowboy from Oklahoma could handle repairs! I was also learned of this
Re: [MBZ] OT - UK metric?
On Friday, February 3, 2006, at 02:54 PM, Potter, Tom E wrote: I just wish the US would switch over instead of doing it half*. I just removed a 700R4 transmission from a GMC truck last week. The bolts connecting the housing to the engine were SAE, but the bolts connecting the torque converter to the flexplate were metric. What an abomination. 15mm IIRC. GM threw some 10mm, 16mm and 18mm stuff at us too. ?? Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] B20
On Friday, February 3, 2006, at 03:21 PM, LT Don wrote: In Iowa, they sell a winter mix of 30% #1 and 70% #2. They'll come real close to 50/50 around here for Jan/Feb. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] OT - UK metric?
Just the opposite of GM (and others) fascination with making things complex was an old Lister-Blackstone diesel that I worked on years ago. It took two wrenches to disassemble the whole engine. All the head bolts, rod bolts, and main bearing nuts were 1.5 inch; everything else was 3/4 inch. What a clever idea--much beyond anything our people could ever dream up. The two wrenches came with the engine too. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Berryman Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 3:53 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - UK metric? On Friday, February 3, 2006, at 02:54 PM, Potter, Tom E wrote: I just wish the US would switch over instead of doing it half*. I just removed a 700R4 transmission from a GMC truck last week. The bolts connecting the housing to the engine were SAE, but the bolts connecting the torque converter to the flexplate were metric. What an abomination. 15mm IIRC. GM threw some 10mm, 16mm and 18mm stuff at us too. ?? Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OT - UK metric?
On Friday, February 3, 2006, at 05:02 PM, Potter, Tom E wrote: Just the opposite of GM (and others) fascination with making things complex was an old Lister-Blackstone diesel that I worked on years ago. It took two wrenches to disassemble the whole engine. All the head bolts, rod bolts, and main bearing nuts were 1.5 inch; everything else was 3/4 inch. What a clever idea--much beyond anything our people could ever dream up. The two wrenches came with the engine too. I'd like to see more logic applied to design. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] How I found this Group
Guy I bought my 74 240D from said, there's a list of diesel heads on the
web. check it out for advice. I probably got the wrong list, because I
found parts.mbz.org and then subscribed to a list. What did I do with my
life ...
On 2/3/06, Potter, Tom E [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You sure you not from the south; you sure tell a good yarn.
Tom Potter
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Subject: [MBZ] How I found this Group
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Would be interesting to find out how people came to be on this list(or
¢ the previous mbz.org)
When I was young, I walked 2 miles to school, uphill both ways. The
rich guy who owned the mill would drive his Mercedes by and splash mud
on the pants my dear Mother had made me. Some day I was going to be
like him.
I swore than to make it big as an accordion player, doing weddings,
funerals and retirement parties (from the mill) to earn big bucks.
Diligence has it's rewards, I was able to purchase a 10 year old IBM
8088 for it's original values, you see the mill owners son had opened
a computer store in the center of town, next to his sister's Bordello
that I had a day gig in.
It was an exciting time, I mastered AOL in 6 months flat!
A Giggle search helped me find the list in about 1999. I lurked for 3
weeks, so as to find all of the inner secrets of the Klatta
Brotherhood as we are known to the outer world. I found out that
Diesel fuel was much cheaper than regular gas, M/B parts were readily
available, and even even a cowboy from Oklahoma could handle repairs!
I was also learned of this Trusty Rusty fellow who scratched out a
living in central Georgia selling M/B parts, cars and BBQ. {I must
digress, being a northerner; I feel a certain responsibility to
support the revival of the South. To this day I still drink nothing
but Kentucky Whiskey}
Rusty had a very nice 300SDL, the deal was consummated. Wife and I
flew down, jumped into the car and drove it like we stole it.
Regrets, I have a few;
We never made a BBQ
Sorry Willie!
I really should have looked harder for a 240D Manny. I actually meet
an old fellow in New Hampshire who was driving a mid80's with 58,000
miles on it. He had bought it new and stored it in the barn during
salt season it had -0- rust!. I offered him obscene money for it
{$5,000}. He promised to keep my name next to his registration in the
event he is forced to sell. More my type of car, I like simple things.
I've never had a Yo-Yo I couldn't fix.
I should have painted my car a week after I got it.
Nice group of folks on this list, even the contrary ones are not rude.
I've driven my car about 100,000 miles. Not a cheap ride but very
reliable if you pay attention and do maintenance in a timely manor. My
wife likes to ride but not drive it. She is very uncomfortable with
the lethargic acceleration from rest.
That's my story, I'm sticking to it!
Pete Arnold
Windsor, CT
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Re: [MBZ] How I found this Group
Hello MB-ers. I was first drawn to MB diesels by the unmistakable sound of the 1976 300D that my Uncle Al bought new when I was about 4 years old. I couldn't see, but I could hear that car dieseling down the street whenever he was in the neighborhood. I would always ask him how many miles do you have on it now? Through the next 20 years, the figure climbed to 380K miles which was unbelievable to me! By that time, it still ran ok, but it was becoming too slow to climb the hills of San Clemente, CA. I wanted to have that car when he was ready to get rid of it, but it was truly warn out. I told myself that I was going to have a 300D some day! About 5 years later in 2002, I finally had enough money to buy my first MB diesel. It was a 1978 300D with 178K miles on it for $2500. Everything worked for a while, and it was a very solid car! I found out after joining this group that I may have paid too much for it, but... I wanted to get some advice and tips to properly care for the car which I got from Marshall and others who saved me a lot of time and money too! I've used the relatively small bit of wisdom that I've gotten from this group to help others on another group. It's nice to be a part of the network of classic MB diesel owners around the world. I'm currently benzless now, but not ieselless with a Dodge Cummins diesel pickup in the driveway. However, there will always be a spot in the driveway for a Mercedes diesel. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
Re: [MBZ] OT - UK metric?
Well, aren't I supposed to be able to rebuild my MB from the ground up with that nice little rollup took kit that they put in the trunk? Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Potter, Tom E Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 2:02 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - UK metric? Just the opposite of GM (and others) fascination with making things complex was an old Lister-Blackstone diesel that I worked on years ago. It took two wrenches to disassemble the whole engine. All the head bolts, rod bolts, and main bearing nuts were 1.5 inch; everything else was 3/4 inch. What a clever idea--much beyond anything our people could ever dream up. The two wrenches came with the engine too.
Re: [MBZ] OT - UK metric?
We maybe, with lots of help from the list. Compared to other vehicles, the M-B is very maintenance friendly. :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 6:25 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - UK metric? Well, aren't I supposed to be able to rebuild my MB from the ground up with that nice little rollup took kit that they put in the trunk? Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Potter, Tom E Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 2:02 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - UK metric? Just the opposite of GM (and others) fascination with making things complex was an old Lister-Blackstone diesel that I worked on years ago. It took two wrenches to disassemble the whole engine. All the head bolts, rod bolts, and main bearing nuts were 1.5 inch; everything else was 3/4 inch. What a clever idea--much beyond anything our people could ever dream up. The two wrenches came with the engine too. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Minnesota CL 92 Mercedes Benz 300TE/4Matic Wagon
http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/car/130990242.html Looks like a nice gasser wagon, cheap. Wish I had 4 grand to spare. No affiliation, ect. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb 03 22:30:41 2006 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.207]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F59Rx-0007hc-4v for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 22:30:41 + Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i6so974769wra for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 14:30:39 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s¾ta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=YCXoL6LqyJ5sxr9brAgTWkKSX4Ii1CAxQq11CMT5xxNzEt9krsZRluo9+nnv5fgA7BaVv8GXdyaJAWB6UvU19ZaFnBnko1uZCa9+QT79slc6R05oUWcoYhCbKOBcgU4Dod01XLbrjBZ+UlRkzTnnk+TXSM2zdyp3TJ45V4HbH3kReceived: by 10.54.148.2 with SMTP id v2mr4160609wrd; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 14:30:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.146.11 with HTTP; Fri, 3 Feb 2006 14:30:39 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 16:30:39 -0600 From: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] B20 X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 22:30:41 - I've seen 40/60 here but only when there is extended sub-0 temps. Where you live, sub-0 is the norm. On 2/3/06, John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday, February 3, 2006, at 03:21 PM, LT Don wrote: In Iowa, they sell a winter mix of 30% #1 and 70% #2. They'll come real close to 50/50 around here for Jan/Feb. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] How I found this Group
I found the list by typing cantankerous mercedes crackpot into Google, then hit the I'm feeling lucky button...voila, I'm home! Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (207k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)
Re: [MBZ] How I found this Group
I'm not exactly sure how I found this list. I think I just did some searches on the net and came up with it or a link to it or something like that. I subscribed to a couple of other similar lists a few years back when I was trying to convince myself to go for it, and they may have mentioned it (or its predecessor anyhoo) there as well. I'm 53 and have wanted a MB Diesel since I was of legal age to drive. The perfect car. Lasts a long time, gets good fuel mileage and always looks classy. Most people have no idea of the age so long as it is clean and shiny. I was always considering one but also always concerned about the cost of repairs and the likelyhood of getting a bad one as they aged. At any rate, I bumped into one last summer that I was willing to gamble on and paid through the nose for it. I've only driven it about 1500 miles and have it put away for the winter season but so far it has not bitten me in anyway. If I had some more space, I'd happily bring a few more home. Maybe I could buy out Kaleb and become the MB King of OK? Randy B
Re: [MBZ] How I found this Group
That is a good story too! Google search for cantankerous mercedes crackpot just now yielded 106 hits, but the Kleb Klub was not on the first page! At 04:47 PM 2/3/2006, you wrote: I found the list by typing cantankerous mercedes crackpot into Google, then hit the I'm feeling lucky button...voila, I'm home! Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (207k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] CL Diesel 'Burb In Milwakee
probably a good deal. If the dude upgraded the exhaust wonder why he didnt go with the 4 instead Rick Knoble wrote: http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/car/130886345.html No affiliation, ect. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
