Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon Rear strut/shock
Loren, I'm no expert on the 124's... But I don't think the rears are struts.. What I've chased shows the following: Shock Absorber; Rear Left/Right; Hydropneumatic Self-Leveling They ain't cheap! There are struts on the front only. Hope this helps... Chuck Phoenix AZ On Feb 20, 2006, at 4:40 PM, Real Estate wrote: I want to rebuild the rear struts in the 88 TE. I know others have rebuilt the 123 hydraulic struts. Rusty can't find a kit to sell me for the 124 wagon struts. Has anyone rebuilt 124 struts, or is the only choice to buy new ones? I need a source for parts, and advice about any tools needed. Are they simply o-rings, and I buy the boot and mouninting kit, then find orings locally? Les, are you lurking out there? I think you have the answer? Loren Faeth 88 300TE 87 TD, et al - Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Oil Change - Questions
On Monday, February 20, 2006, at 04:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I plan to change the oil filter in my '91 300D Turbo this week -
ordered
parts from Rusty -
How many quarts of oil (mobil 1) will I need to buy? How hard is it
to get
to the oil filter?
Should be 7.4 qts with filter but you'll never get it all in. Stop at
6 and run the engine for a minute or two then wait a good long while,
recheck and top-off. It should be no more difficult to get at the
filter than one would expect.
Any unusual stuff I should expect? I also ordered a AT Filter kit -
need to
know how much ATF to buy?
5.8 qts if used and 7 if its brand new bone dry.
TIA -
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] 220D Trunk floor project
On Monday, February 20, 2006, at 04:53 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: If you put grinding stones in it, it's a grinder. If you put cutoff wheels in it... It's called a die grinder because die makers use them. To grind on their dies. Obviously they have other uses too. -- Jim Dentists have another name for it too. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon Rear strut/shock
Hi Chuck, I know the new ones are $500 each. I know the 123s can be rebuilt. I am hoping there is a rebuild option for the 124. Shock Absorber; Rear Left/Right; Hydropneumatic Self-Leveling is the book jargon. I have heard them referred to as shocks and as struts. I don't care what anyone wants to call them, I just hope I don't have to shell out $1000 (plus the other parts) to get this car running. Has anyone out there got a Shock Absorber; Hydropneumatic Self-Leveling, that you could look at to see if it comes apart? Loren Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Loren, I'm no expert on the 124's... But I don't think the rears are struts.. What I've chased shows the following: Shock Absorber; Rear Left/Right; Hydropneumatic Self-Leveling They ain't cheap! There are struts on the front only. Hope this helps... Chuck Phoenix AZ On Feb 20, 2006, at 4:40 PM, Real Estate wrote: I want to rebuild the rear struts in the 88 TE. I know others have rebuilt the 123 hydraulic struts. Rusty can't find a kit to sell me for the 124 wagon struts. Has anyone rebuilt 124 struts, or is the only choice to buy new ones? I need a source for parts, and advice about any tools needed. Are they simply o-rings, and I buy the boot and mouninting kit, then find orings locally? Les, are you lurking out there? I think you have the answer? Loren Faeth 88 300TE 87 TD, et al - Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net - Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Feb 21 00:09:55 2006 Received: from pop-satin.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([207.69.195.63]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FBL6J-0006GC-4P for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 00:09:55 + Received: from user-10mt01r.cable.mindspring.com ([65.110.128.59] helo=earthlink.net) by pop-satin.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #10) id 1FBL6H-00042X-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 19:09:53 -0500 Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 19:09:50 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Off Topic - keeping warm X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 00:09:55 - On Monday, February 20, 2006, at 06:20 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: in other news.. i was wondering how every one has been dong regarding house heat it has been a mild winter here in phila i have a wood stove insert that has saved me a fortune in heating costs in my living room fireplace and a fireplace in the basement that i use for enjoyment ( not a good efficient source of heat really) so ... do we have any other wood burners out there ? mike collins phila pa 1985 500 sec Go Villanova Yup, we did this last week or so. I burn 5-6 cords each Winter. 2 Vermont castings stoves. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
[MBZ] Spotted 300CD for sale
Driving around here in Tucson, I spotted an '82 CD for sale. I caught the owner as he came out of his jewelry shop. He says he is very interested in selling quickly to make room in his garage. The thing looks real nice - light tan, clean from what I saw. Said the tranny was slipping but he had it fixed. Moonroof doesn't work. I think he wants either 5500. or 6500. I forget. I got his number if anyone wants it. Oh, 141k mi. No affiliation. Brian _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Spotted 300CD for sale
Driving around here in Tucson, I spotted an '82 CD for sale. When I saw the topic I thought: Rust spots? Gateway paint job? -- Jim
[MBZ] Anger Management
I have to vent! My Bride, for the second time in 5 days, backed her car out of the drive and drove down the street with the extension cord plugged in to the block heater. Except today, the plug was ripped off the cord instead of just coming unplugged. AGGGHHH!! This woman, who never misses an opportunity to dog me for being forgetful, claims that since she doesn't think about cars 24 hours a day like me, that she can't be expected to remember to unplug the heater. I offered to drape the cord over the rearview mirror, but she claims that it wouldn't help!! Thanks for listening. Regards, Rory Morrison Oroville, WA 1985 300SD 1982 300TD
Re: [MBZ] Off Topic - keeping warm
so ... do we have any other wood burners out there ? This winter, since I'm unemployed, we stepped up the use of wood to near 100%. The furnace was only on one weekend that we were away. We have two old mid-70's fireplace inserts, one up and one down. Both have been running continuously since November, and have consumed all the dry wood I had for this year, and most of the not-so-dry that I'd laid in for next. Turns out my woodshed is only half the size it needs to be. The power bills have been significantly reduced, to around $100/month. Friends with an historic house have brought me the rusted-out pieces of the Heatilator that was in their fireplace to repair. (Welding for beer, using my finely-honed Frankenheap repair skills.) Their heating bills are running $400-$500/month, they're quite interested in augmenting their heat using the fireplace, yet don't want to ruin the look of the thing with an insert. Not to mention, a new insert costs more than cases of beer! Nor can a new Heatilator be purchased at any price. Without the Heatilator, using the wood isn't a gain. Too much lost up the chimney. With it, who knows? We all figure it can't hurt. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Pics from my latest Beater-Benz journey
Those are some great pics! Where (in W Texas) were they taken? Making me think about a road trip. --R Pablo wrote: Dell City/My Land/Carlsbad/Hike to Guadalupe Peak http://www.pbdev.com/westtex/ p. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] FWD GM tubs
Pls don't tell Elwood (my 76 Eldo) that. --R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Toranado was and American oddity as it was the only major production front wheel drive vehicle for years. So you are ignoring the '67 Cad Eldo? And it's Toronado. RLE ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Off Topic - keeping warm
i am going through 5 cord or so also osburn 2400 insert i am thinking about getting a pellet stove also!!! last months gas bill was bill was 277.00( gd) collins 1985 500 sec phila pa
Re: [MBZ] Anger Management
Leave it unplugged and make her walk. Hendrik who wouldn't have the guts to do something like that - Original Message - From: Rory [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 11:16 AM Subject: [MBZ] Anger Management I have to vent! My Bride, for the second time in 5 days, backed her car out of the drive and drove down the street with the extension cord plugged in to the block heater. Except today, the plug was ripped off the cord instead of just coming unplugged. AGGGHHH!! This woman, who never misses an opportunity to dog me for being forgetful, claims that since she doesn't think about cars 24 hours a day like me, that she can't be expected to remember to unplug the heater. I offered to drape the cord over the rearview mirror, but she claims that it wouldn't help!! Thanks for listening. Regards, Rory Morrison Oroville, WA 1985 300SD 1982 300TD ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.15.11/264 - Release Date: 17/02/2006
Re: [MBZ] OT CD burning?
K3B Linux. On 2/19/06, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been happy with deepburner. www.deepburner.com ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] Off Topic - keeping warm
When I lived near Boston I ran a woodstove in my kitchen of the old Victorian, kept the thermostat low, the heat went up the back stairs and kept upstairs nice and toasty. When got ready to sell the house the realtor wanted to add up the oil bills, came to $500some for the winter, she refused to believe that. Most people were spending that per month in the big old drafty houses. I'd run the boiler in the morning to get the house warm and then when I got home to warm it up, one of those cheap timer thermos, set it way low over night and during the day. I would scrounge wood from the neighborhood when the city or neighbors cut down trees, sometimes the city guys would drop off nice oak and maple they had cut up already into manageable chunks, i would split it. A few 6s now and again left out by the trash on pickup day kept the supply flowing. --R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/20/2006 6:18:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, PONDERSOA writes: in other news.. i was wondering how every one has been dong regarding house heat it has been a mild winter here in phila i have a wood stove insert that has saved me a fortune in heating costs in my living room fireplace and a fireplace in the basement that i use for enjoyment ( not a good efficient source of heat really) so ... do we have any other wood burners out there ? mike collins phila pa 1985 500 sec Go Villanova ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Off Topic - keeping warm -- YES GO 'NOVA!
Go Villanova
Re: [MBZ] Anger Management
On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 16:46:59 -0800 Rory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I offered to drape the cord over the rearview mirror, but she claims that it wouldn't help!! I was the one in our house who drove off with the block heater plugged in. I've taken to draping the power cord over the hood (we park on the street and drive off in the forward direction). One way might be to have her put her key inside the engine compartment (on the W123 a good place is by the windshield washer fluid reservoir), close the hood, connect up the block heater and drape the power cord over the star on the hood. she will have to open the hood and see the cord before she can get her key to start the car. That only works, though, if the car is parked inside a garage where it can be left unlocked. Another way, a little more work, would be to add under the hood a 120 V relay that's powered when the block heater is. A set of normally open contacts wired in parallel with the horn would insure that the horn would sound when the ignition key is turned on with the power cord plugged in. (IIRC, the horn won't sound even if the horn ring is pressed when the key is off.) Craig
Re: [MBZ] Anger Management
Could be worse. I did that last winter (leaving work) in front of our CEO, who unfortuantely shares my sick sense of humor. I even got a small write up about it in the company newsletter, about my Electric Benz. On 2/20/06, Rory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to vent! My Bride, for the second time in 5 days, backed her car out of the drive and drove down the street with the extension cord plugged in to the block heater. Except today, the plug was ripped off the cord instead of just coming unplugged. AGGGHHH!! -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
[MBZ] CD Wiring?
Howdy -
Still learning about my 91 300D - the radio is CD compatible - does that
mean the wiring is pre-installed?
Would make installation a *lot* easier -
Not sure what kind of radio it is - it says Mercedes Benz on it - does
that mean it's a Becker?
;-)TIA
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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Re: [MBZ] Anger Management
On Monday, February 20, 2006, at 07:46 PM, Rory wrote: I have to vent! My Bride, for the second time in 5 days, backed her car out of the drive and drove down the street with the extension cord plugged in to the block heater. Except today, the plug was ripped off the cord instead of just coming unplugged. AGGGHHH!! This woman, who never misses an opportunity to dog me for being forgetful, claims that since she doesn't think about cars 24 hours a day like me, that she can't be expected to remember to unplug the heater. I offered to drape the cord over the rearview mirror, but she claims that it wouldn't help!! Thanks for listening. Regards, Rory Morrison Oroville, WA The easy answer is only plug the car in when absolutely necessary and unplug it and start the car for her when its that cold. How often does the ambient temperature get lower than 0 F? What year and model is her car? What year and model is your car? Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] Anger Management
that she can't be expected to remember to unplug the heater. I offered to drape the cord over the rearview mirror, but she claims that it wouldn't help!! Perhaps loop it through the door handle? EMT guys have self-ejecting plug-ins on the front of their rigs. (They spit when the key goes on.) In the worst case maybe you could buy one and install it underneath enough that it worked well, yet wasn't ugly. They're not cheap, though. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Mats, Mirror Owners Manual for my 91 300D
Geez, Chuck! That sounds VIOLENT!! I'll take a look when the new mirror
arrives - it's from Rusty so it'll probably be here *really* quickly!
;-)
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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- Original Message -
From: Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 4:46 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mats, Mirror Owners Manual for my 91 300D
Larry,
I recently replaced the interior mirror on my new 190E 2.3 16V...
1. Hold securely as close to the top of the mirror post as
possible and JERK IT OUT down and to the rear.
2. Place one side of the new mirror, preferably the left side
sitting in the car, into the slot Getting one end of the spring
loaded whatsits into the receiver. I then placed the bottom
of a moderate sized hammer handle up next to the post and hit as
hard as I could w/the palm of my hand trying to deliver the force of
the blow up and to the left. It worked...
And I didn't break anything...
Hope this helps
Chuck
Phoenix, AZ
1986 190E 2.3 16Valve
1980 300SD
On Feb 20, 2006, at 2:16 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I ordered a new inside rear
view mirror and now I'm wondering how to get the old one off? Does
it just
pop out of the ball socket swivel joint? And then pop the new one
in? The
old one is damaged - the plastic frams is broken with the night/day
switch
missing.
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[MBZ] FS Manual Transmission and associated parts...
I have a 4 speed transmission, clutch, flywheel, flywheel bolts, pressure plate, pedal hardware, shift linkage, and long drive shaft sitting under my workbench. Parts are from a 240D. It's a great start in the process of converting from an automatic to a manual. If anybody is interested in it, I can part with it for lots less than the commercial scrappers are selling them for on Ebay. Please drop me an email and lets discuss. I am only interested in local pickup. I cannot ship it, or at least cannot ship it for any reasonable shipping fees, as I would have to take it to a boxer and that cannot be cheap. Lets find it a home and supplement my fishing hobby account. Richard Salisbury NC __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] Anger Management
Rory - When we wanted to plug in our ambulances in the winter [in Indiana, not Florida] and were concerned about that the solution suggested was to make sure there was a plug that was anchored near the wall socket and anchored under the ambulance so that the pull would always separate the wire safely and the strain did not rip out the wiring on the heater when it pulled apart. Middle of the night calls in winter did not lend themselves to long start / warm up times and this helped to protect the engines and our wiring. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD EM 271K miles -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rory Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 7:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Anger Management I have to vent! My Bride, for the second time in 5 days, backed her car out of the drive and drove down the street with the extension cord plugged in to the block heater. Except today, the plug was ripped off the cord instead of just coming unplugged. AGGGHHH!! This woman, who never misses an opportunity to dog me for being forgetful, claims that since she doesn't think about cars 24 hours a day like me, that she can't be expected to remember to unplug the heater. I offered to drape the cord over the rearview mirror, but she claims that it wouldn't help!! Thanks for listening. Regards, Rory Morrison Oroville, WA 1985 300SD 1982 300TD ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 220D Trunk floor project
kevin kraly wrote: Hi, Dimitri. Since I've only got $175 in my 220D including the battery, I don't think that I'll be doing anything to the trunk for quite a while. You could do what I did on my old Volvo 240. I used a 3M Rust And Paint Removal Wheel to remove as much rust and bubbled paint as I could, then cut off the danglies to make a relatively smooth opening. Painted with rust converter on both sides, then primed it. Once the paint was dry, I cut patches out of galvanized sheet metal from Home Depot, leaving a bit of overlap all around, and pop-riveted them in place with a bit of silicone sealer in between. It looked like hell, but it kept the water and exhaust fumes out. The only power tool I used was a cordless electric drill; a pair of aviation snips, pliers, vise grips, and a pop-rivet gun took care of the rest. Don't forget to wear a dust mask when using the paint removal wheel, and don't skip the rust converter and primer steps or you'll just have a bigger hole in a year.
Re: [MBZ] Off Topic - keeping warm
On Monday, February 20, 2006, at 07:49 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: Without the Heatilator, using the wood isn't a gain. Too much lost up the chimney. With it, who knows? We all figure it can't hurt. -- Jim Fireplaces are a waste of wood. not only are they inefficient in the task of making heat from wood but you have a gaping hole in your house sucking out the heat as it dies out. Close the damper too soon and you get a house full of smoke. Find a good used insert or wood stove for him. Earn kegs of beer for pick-up, modification installation. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] 220D Trunk floor project
You might want to consider the Nibbler - made for cutting metal - fits in a drill - electric or air powered - and nibbles little chunks of metal - like chewing. Eastwood carries them along with some others. I actually have the Eastwood drill mounted nibbler. Its ok for making coarse cuts but lacks precision. It's hard to keep the thing cutting in a straight line. Also the dies wear out fast and are not cheap to replace. Another problem is that it cuts out a wide strip of metal making it hard to judge were the edge of what you are cutting is. I was wondering about electric shears like those made by Milwaukee and Bosch. I think there are two and three blade varieties. Anyone have any experience with these? For fabrication purposes a Beverly shear would be awesome! Dimitri __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] bobby lickus?
Donald Snook wrote: During a particularly nasty snow/ice storm. I still had the Olds. I drove it to runs some errands because I didn't want to drive the benz and get it all salty. My wife took the olds to work 30 minutes later and I had to drive the benz. The 90 124 was awful in the snow. It had new (all season) tires on it. It slid around and got stuck and was miserable to drive. I put the snow tires on it that day and it improved. But, given any amount of snow I would much rather drive the oldsmobile than a rear wheel drive benz. It's all about getting weight over the driving wheels. When I lived in Ann Arbor I had a Volvo 240DL wagon and my boyfriend had a '99 Chevy Malibu. (He's still got the Malibu, but the tinworm got the Volvo.) The Volvo initially was *terrible* in the snow, but the Malibu was like a tractor -- great traction and it went where you pointed it. I put 120 pounds of sand in the back of the Volvo and suddenly it was much better, almost a match for the Malibu. You do have to be more on your toes with a RWD car, though, because it will oversteer and fishtail, while a FWD car will just understeer. Most people find understeer more intuitive to deal with, which I suspect is part of the reason FWD cars have a reputation for being good in snow.
Re: [MBZ] OT CD burning?
Bob DuPuy wrote: I guess I am a retard. I'm trying to burn a cd from an ISO image. All I seem to be able to do is to make a cd with an ISO file on it. What is the favored method of burning so the CD comes out with usable files. If you're running Windows XP, try ISO Recorder: http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm It adds a 'Copy to CD' option to Explorer that comes up when you right-click on an ISO file.
Re: [MBZ] Oil Change - Questions
I changed the oil and filter yesterday (22 F) - drained 7+ quarts of oil.
Just replace what you drain. I haven't done the ATF or rear diff yet, and
I'm not going to for a while.
This is because I had my ACL and MCL rebuilt today, aka I blew out my knee
Carson Palmer-style and I had surgery to fix it today.
So now I'm laid up for a week, with nothing to do but hit refresh on
gmail.
Rusty, do I get a get-well present?
On 2/20/06, John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Monday, February 20, 2006, at 04:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I plan to change the oil filter in my '91 300D Turbo this week -
ordered
parts from Rusty -
How many quarts of oil (mobil 1) will I need to buy? How hard is it
to get
to the oil filter?
Should be 7.4 qts with filter but you'll never get it all in. Stop
at
6 and run the engine for a minute or two then wait a good long while,
recheck and top-off. It should be no more difficult to get at the
filter than one would expect.
Any unusual stuff I should expect? I also ordered a AT Filter kit -
need to
know how much ATF to buy?
5.8 qts if used and 7 if its brand new bone dry.
TIA -
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am
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Re: [MBZ] Off Topic - keeping warm
when i moved in my house my neighbors were getting 800 a month gas bills my neighbor used to laugh at me for collecting wood ! ( if i EVER got a 800 dollar bill for ANYTHING i would have laid on the floor and instantaneously had a baby and died .) i used a smaller stove the first year the second year i purchased a larger one osburn 2400 my bills have been 160 to 300 ever since however my neighbor across the street has received an $1800.00 (eighteen hundred) dollar gas bill ...( yep that's right) he does not laugh at me any more collins 1985 500 sec phila pa
Re: [MBZ] Off Topic - keeping warm
and another one across the river from Philly - we're using a Better'n'Ben insert 24/7, and have about 5 acres of wood that is going to waste! But not using oil feels REAL good. Werner - Original Message - From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 7:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Off Topic - keeping warm On Monday, February 20, 2006, at 06:20 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: in other news.. i was wondering how every one has been dong regarding house heat it has been a mild winter here in phila i have a wood stove insert that has saved me a fortune in heating costs in my living room fireplace and a fireplace in the basement that i use for enjoyment ( not a good efficient source of heat really) so ... do we have any other wood burners out there ? mike collins phila pa 1985 500 sec Go Villanova Yup, we did this last week or so. I burn 5-6 cords each Winter. 2 Vermont castings stoves. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] Anger Management
Thanks for your comments all. I too did not have the nerve to take the keys and make her walk, although I threatened to not replace it and was quickly rebuffed when she stated that I would no longer be eating since she couldn't get to the store (I do so enjoy eating!). I've decided to unplug her car at the beginning of the day when I leave for work. Hers is the 82 300TD with about half a million miles. It doesn't get too cold here, only to the teens lately, but it's so much nicer to the car even then. Rory Morrison Oroville, WA 1985 300SD 1982 300TD
Re: [MBZ] Anger Management
hahahahahahahahahahahbahahaha Good luck Rory wrote: I have to vent! My Bride, for the second time in 5 days, backed her car out of the drive and drove down the street with the extension cord plugged in to the block heater. Except today, the plug was ripped off the cord instead of just coming unplugged. AGGGHHH!! This woman, who never misses an opportunity to dog me for being forgetful, claims that since she doesn't think about cars 24 hours a day like me, that she can't be expected to remember to unplug the heater. I offered to drape the cord over the rearview mirror, but she claims that it wouldn't help!! Thanks for listening. Regards, Rory Morrison Oroville, WA 1985 300SD 1982 300TD ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] CD Wiring?
Yes, its prewired. The radio is a becker, its actually a 3 piece deal.
The head unit, then the actual radio unit is in the trunk, behind the
liner on the passenger side. The 3rd piece is the amp. You can use a
certain model of alpine cd changer, but requires 3 different adaptors,
wiring harnesses etc. 2 of the adapters can be ordered from any car
audio shop, they are made by PIE. The 3rd one is some sort of converter
box you have to get at the dealer. Its about $160 I think last time I
ordered one. Think the other adapters are about $60 each or so. You
have to plug all that mess together and it will work. The dealer should
have the instruction sheet for it.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Howdy -
Still learning about my 91 300D - the radio is CD compatible - does that
mean the wiring is pre-installed?
Would make installation a *lot* easier -
Not sure what kind of radio it is - it says Mercedes Benz on it - does
that mean it's a Becker?
;-)TIA
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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Re: [MBZ] Anger Management
Mobil 1, valves adjusted, fresh bettery? Then don't bother plugguing it in! On 2/20/06, Rory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for your comments all. I too did not have the nerve to take the keys and make her walk, although I threatened to not replace it and was quickly rebuffed when she stated that I would no longer be eating since she couldn't get to the store (I do so enjoy eating!). I've decided to unplug her car at the beginning of the day when I leave for work. Hers is the 82 300TD with about half a million miles. It doesn't get too cold here, only to the teens lately, but it's so much nicer to the car even then. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] any thoughts on our new look?
Very nice indeed . ! mak - Original Message - From: M. Mitchell Marmel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 10:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] [Banned] any thoughts on our new look? At 12:47 PM -0500 2/20/06, Gary Hurst wrote: http://www.buymbparts.com/newdesign/index.html#http://www.buymbparts.com/newdesign/index.html Pretty slick. -MMM- ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.11/264 - Release Date: 2/17/2006
Re: [MBZ] Oil Change - Questions
On Feb 20, 2006, at 7:14 PM, Sunil Hari wrote: This is because I had my ACL and MCL rebuilt today, aka I blew out my knee Carson Palmer-style and I had surgery to fix it today. So now I'm laid up for a week, with nothing to do but hit refresh on gmail. Sunil, I hope you were you getting paid Carson Palmer-style bucks when you blew out your knee If so, you can afford to have somebody else do all the work.!!! Just kidding!! Get well quick and get back under your Benz Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ
Re: [MBZ] Oil Change - Questions
Larry - as for the oil, the book says 8 qts, but you can only get about 7 in
before its over full. That's partly because the cooler and hoses hold a
lot, and also most people don't get all the oil out because it takes so long
to really let it drain. And good synthetics like Delvac1, as Marshall
pointed out recently, really clings to the metal surfaces and it can take
literally hours before it all drains into the crankcase. So the accepted
rule is to refill only to the point that it is halfway between the add and
full marks.
Its a similar situation for the transmission - especially if you take the
trouble to drain the torque converter. Add to that the complication that
the full mark on the dipstick is for a transmission and oil at operating
temperature, so again it pays to be patient and fill it in increments.
I would have 8 qts of engine oil and 8 qts of ATF on hand before doing
either job, and 2 quarts of differential Mobil1 when you get to the
differential.
And my apologies for giving misleading info on the rear view mirror - I went
out to the garage and looked at my wife's car, and the base of the mirror is
actually mounted to the windshield surround, and apparently not directly to
the glass. I must have been recalling an earlier car of mine.
Werner
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 4:51 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Oil Change - Questions
I plan to change the oil filter in my '91 300D Turbo this week - ordered
parts from Rusty -
How many quarts of oil (mobil 1) will I need to buy? How hard is it to
get
to the oil filter?
Any unusual stuff I should expect? I also ordered a AT Filter kit - need
to
know how much ATF to buy?
TIA -
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
Re: [MBZ] FWD Cads
So you are ignoring the '67 Cad Eldo? And it's Toronado The 1967 Eldorado was unlike every previous Cadillac not only in that it had front-wheel drive but in style and attitude. Cadillac had never before made a coupe with no accompanying sedan (there wouldn't be a four-door front-drive Caddy until the 1980 Seville), and the '67 Eldorado was also the only coupe that wasn't offered as a convertible. And no Cadillac had ever looked like the hidden-headlight, aggressively modern '67 Eldorado, either. Credit GM designer Bill Mitchell for the truly gorgeous, almost arrogant '67 Eldo. Beneath its skin, the '67 Eldorado had at least as much in common with the Oldsmobile Toronado as it did with any other Caddy. The Toronado had ushered in front-wheel drive to the General Motors lineup the previous year, and most of that car's structure and drivetrain carried over to the Eldo. Most prominent of the shared pieces was the Turbohydramatic three-speed automatic transaxle, which essentially put the transmission beside the longitudinally mounted engine, with power transmitted by a chain. Also coming over from the Toronado was the A-arm front suspension incorporating long torsion bars instead of coil springs and the solid rear axle with leaf springs. Obviously, though, the Eldorado needed Cadillac power, and it used the same 340 horsepower 429-cubic-inch V8 as other Caddies with changes in the exhaust manifolds, oil pan and accessory drive system to accommodate the peculiar drivetrain. Priced at $6,277 (more than any DeVille, but less than a Fleetwood), the '67 Eldorado carried all the luxury equipment of a Fleetwood and, despite its two doors, had room for six passengers. It was instantly the most popular Eldorado ever and sold 17,930 units that first year (only 2,250 '66 Eldorados were sold). It was a bold, confident step forward for Cadillac. Except for moving the front parking lamps to the leading edge of the fenders and extending the hood's trailing edge to hide the windshield wipers, the 1968 Eldorado was barely distinguishable from the '67. Under the hood, however, were some substantive changes as the engine grew to 472 cubic-inches and its output increased to 375 horsepower. Additionally, the suspension was softened somewhat. Except for a new front grille with exposed headlamps, the 1969 Eldorado pretty much carried over from '68. For 1970, Cadillac revived the tradition of the more powerful Eldorado when it bounced displacement on the engine up to a full 500 cubic-inches and output to 400 horsepower, while other Cadillacs stayed with the 472 V8 with 375 horsepower. The grille was revised again, and for the first time metric engine measurements were heralded by an 8.2 litre badge in that grille. It would be a long time before the Eldo would again be as athletic as the '70 model. RLE
[MBZ] W124 TD rear leveling AGAIN!
OK, I'm beginning to get a little pissed here.. I replaced the spheres on my car. At the tim e the rear didn't level with the added load, but it didn't bottom out with my added weight. When I replaced the spheres there was plenty of pressure in the lines leading me to believe that my tandem pump was fine. Now with the new spheres and a full reservoir of fluid, I have the rear bottoming out and skipping all over the road whenever I hit a decent sized bump. Underneath the car tonight, I loosened the control rod nut and was hoping to fill the system this way. There was NO resistance from the valve at all..I could spin it round and round with no tension! Is my valve bad.my tandem pump... Any help is appreciated! Jeff Zedic Toronto 87 300TD
Re: [MBZ] OT CD burning?
Don't try to drag and drop to cd, it won't work. Open up cd burning program and dig through the menues till you find the burn from image option, then select the iso image and burn. That will get you a functional CD ---Robert Bob DuPuy wrote: I guess I am a retard. I'm trying to burn a cd from an ISO image. All I seem to be able to do is to make a cd with an ISO file on it. What is the favored method of burning so the CD comes out with usable files. Thanks, Bob DuPuy ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Off Topic - keeping warm
I have been using only wood for heating for 35 years. We now have a Regency. I cut 3 cords of alder/maple a year off our place in the fall so I'm always a season ahead. I've fabracated a propane log lighter in the stove which eliminates the need for kindling or wadded up paper. I use about 5 gallons of propane in 6 mos. The black iron pipe is replaced with stainless steel which lasts a couple years. I should have done this years ago, it really takes the hassle outa burning wood. Regards Steve 85 Euro 240D, 5 spd manual, 110K 79 240D, 5 spd manual, 20K on eng rebuild 94 Dodge/Cummins PU, 100K 82 TD project wagon 64 VW Bug 65 D15, AC tractor so ... do we have any other wood burners out there ?
Re: [MBZ] FWD Cads
On Monday, February 20, 2006, at 10:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be a long time before the Eldo would again be as athletic as the '70 model. Either you borrowed that Eldo history lesson (very nice by the way) from somewhere or you ought to be writing for Road and Track. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] CD Wiring?
Or you buy an iPod and an FM broadcaster for it, and you ditch CDs entirely.
On 2/20/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, its prewired. The radio is a becker, its actually a 3 piece deal.
The head unit, then the actual radio unit is in the trunk, behind the
liner on the passenger side. The 3rd piece is the amp. You can use a
certain model of alpine cd changer, but requires 3 different adaptors,
wiring harnesses etc. 2 of the adapters can be ordered from any car
audio shop, they are made by PIE. The 3rd one is some sort of converter
box you have to get at the dealer. Its about $160 I think last time I
ordered one. Think the other adapters are about $60 each or so. You
have to plug all that mess together and it will work. The dealer should
have the instruction sheet for it.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Howdy -
Still learning about my 91 300D - the radio is CD compatible - does that
mean the wiring is pre-installed?
Would make installation a *lot* easier -
Not sure what kind of radio it is - it says Mercedes Benz on it - does
that mean it's a Becker?
;-)TIA
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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Re: [MBZ] W124 TD rear leveling AGAIN!
On Monday, February 20, 2006, at 10:53 PM, Jeff Zedic wrote: Underneath the car tonight, I loosened the control rod nut and was hoping to fill the system this way. There was NO resistance from the valve at all..I could spin it round and round with no tension! Is my valve bad.my tandem pump... Any help is appreciated! Jeff Zedic I think there are no detents or they are weakly sprung on the control valve. If my memory serves me well, the only time I felt resistance is when it went into by-pass. Its not clear what you loosened but the link from the control valve arm and the sway bar is what should be remove to manually operate the valve. If air is suspect, the system is supposed to self-bleed but opening the bleeder and operating the valve helps. It should lower with the engine off so be careful operating the valve under there. You did have the engine running? Have a look at where the bracket attaches to the sway bar too. The pinch bolt can be loose. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] FWD Cads
The Toronado front wheel drive assembly was also used -- with a 454 -- to power GMC motorhomes. It was pretty stout for a front wheel drive drivetrain. It used a longitudinally-mounted engine, unlike most modern front wheel drive cars.
[MBZ] main fuel filter question
When I changed the main fuel filter on my 92 300D, I filled it as best I could, then crammed it into place and reattached everything. The maintenance manual said the system is self-priming. Then, when I went to start it, it died after about 3 seconds, then damn near drained the battery because I had to crank it for about a minute. Even had to jump start it with my other car. It finally started and hasn't been a problem since. Is this duration of cranking after a filter change normal? -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] main fuel filter question
Sunil, Yes, it's a scary-long-time to self-primepersonally I had no problem with the manual pumpat least they were a lkot easier to start after a filter change!! Wait until you run out of fuel one time! It takes even longer! Jeff Zedic Toronto
Re: [MBZ] main fuel filter question
On Monday, February 20, 2006, at 11:36 PM, Sunil Hari wrote: Is this duration of cranking after a filter change normal? -- Yes. I like to fill the filter, then take the old one off, then top-off the new one as sometimes they soak up a little fuel. It will take a good amount of cranking. The more fuel you get into the filter the less you have to crank. That's how the self bleeding system is. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] FWD vs. RWD (was: bobby lickus?)
Front wheel drive is somewhat better for getting started, but on ice, the back end is like trying to control a trailer. For snow driving my favourite is my '93 Volvo 940 turbo, rear wheel drive with an automatic locking differential and a set of four studded Nokian snow tires and 2 40 pound sacks of kitty litter in the trunk. It will go anywhere comfortably,and i really love passing stuck 4x4's in it. My 300sd did pretty nice with a set of studless friction tires, but not as good as the volvo ( got to love that locking diff :-) If you had a locking diff on a 300sd it would be unstoppable. I had a fwd rabbit that I could get around OK on the white stuff, but I had to drive like I was racing to keep the rear end behind me. I had a pontiac Phoenix fwd for awhile living in the northwest, with snow tires it was OK going uphil or flat, but downright scary going downhill. Robert M Dave M. wrote: I'm with Click Clack. FWD came about because it was cheaper to manufacture. It's not optimal for performance of any kind. The only advantage in snow or slick roads is starting from a stop, due to the higher percentage of weight on the front tires. Once in motion, you have less control with FWD. On the flip side, while you have more control with RWD, it takes a lot more driver skill to use the extra abilities. It's easier to get into trouble with RWD, and once again if you don't have the skills to control oversteer, you're in trouble, probably more so than with FWD. Which all adds up to them claiming FWD is better. A RWD car with some kitty litter in the trunk as ballast, plus FOUR (not two) good snow tires, is a great setup and I'd take that any day over FWD. One caveat... in either case, a limited-slip differential is something I *really* like... open diffs (which result in one spinning tire) are annoying! Now, AWD is way better than either of the above, but there are penalties in cost, maintenance, fuel economy, and weight. Too bad MB never imported the 300D 4Matic over here (the 124.333, which was the AWD version of the 124.133.) Traction tires also make a HUGE difference in driveability on slick roads... my 123 was nearly undriveable with so-called all season Yokohamas, but with four Kumho KW-11 studless snows, it was unstoppable. The best test would be to drive a FWD and RWD car back to back, same day, same conditions, with the same snow tires for comparison! dons snow suit over the flame suit :-) -Dave M. -- Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 12:00:01 -0600 From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] bobby lickus? FWD's vaunted snow handling ability was informally put to the test a few years ago by Click Clack, they compared an Acura to some old land yacht on a nasty day. The land yacht sailed circles around the Acura, and they attributed it all to weight. FWD lets you make a lighter car but with more of its weight on the driven wheels, approximating the traction a heavier car would have. That's pretty much all it does for you. I could not disagree more. When I bought my 90 300D I was driving a 1996 Olds Cutlass Ciera. It was the most boring and unspectacular car around. During a particularly nasty snow/ice storm. I still had the Olds. I drove it to runs some errands because I didn't want to drive the benz and get it all salty. My wife took the olds to work 30 minutes later and I had to drive the benz. The 90 124 was awful in the snow. It had new (all season) tires on it. It slid around and got stuck and was miserable to drive. I put the snow tires on it that day and it improved. But, given any amount of snow I would much rather drive the oldsmobile than a rear wheel drive benz. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] main fuel filter question
Sunil, That's about normal if you don't fill the new filter up before installing it. I made that mistake only once. Now I keep some cans of Diesel Purge handy, and fill the new filter with Purge before installing. Works like a charm. With a dry filter, the car will die after a few seconds and you'll likely kill the battery trying to get it primed re-started. You can fill it with fresh diesel also, or even pour the diesel from the old filter into the new one (via the 'dirty' side), although that's probably not the best thing to do, lol. =) -Dave M. -- Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 23:36:29 -0500 From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] main fuel filter question When I changed the main fuel filter on my 92 300D, I filled it as best I could, then crammed it into place and reattached everything. The maintenance manual said the system is self-priming. Then, when I went to start it, it died after about 3 seconds, then damn near drained the battery because I had to crank it for about a minute. Even had to jump start it with my other car. It finally started and hasn't been a problem since. Is this duration of cranking after a filter change normal? -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi.
Re: [MBZ] Oil Change - Questions
And my apologies for giving misleading info on the rear view mirror - I went out to the garage and looked at my wife's car, and the base of the mirror is actually mounted to the windshield surround, and apparently not directly to the glass. I must have been recalling an earlier car of mine. Yeah, a Chevy! (I've had plenty of Chevy mirrors land in my lap. Enough that I grabbed an old Dodge pickup mirror from the boneyard and screwed it to the ceiling of my Chevy pickup. That ended the problem there.) -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Off Topic - keeping warm
Fireplaces are a waste of wood. not only are they inefficient in the task of making heat from wood but you have a gaping hole in your house sucking out the heat as it dies out. Close the damper too soon and you get a house full of smoke. Find a good used insert or wood stove for him. Earn kegs of beer for pick-up, modification installation. As the owners of a historic home they wish to maintain the original appearance (more-or-less, especially in the showpiece living room) and so don't really want to eliminate the fireplace if the Heatilator (a poor-man's insert) will work at all. The fireplace in question has glass doors, etc., already. They are closed during operation of the Heatilator. -- Jim
[MBZ] Nothing
Re: [MBZ] Anger Management
Rory, Cars and extension cords are cheap as compared to wives! Along the same notes I have found my life to be a whole lot less stressful when I finally realized it was not my job in life to educate people. That is I am not here to teach idiots on the road how to drive, nor am I here to teach my wife about cars. Well unless she wants to learn. What finally made the wife and cars happy was when I said OK dear I am tired of being beat up about the cars, I'll make a deal with you. You go pick out any car you want and we will buy it. However you have to be responsible for the car and repairs. Since we were having our first kid she and I went looking for cars. She test drove a mini-van, and a 560SEL. She asked which was more reliable and safer, I told her that the 560SEL was safer and that her current car was the more reliable as that everything that could break had been replaced. It took her about 2 months and she decided that the 560SEL was what she wanted. I have not heard a peep about the cars since. As far as the extension cord, fix the car as Don mentioned such that it will start with out being plugged in. Then when she complains about how long it takes to heat up hand her an extension cord and have her plug it in at night. She will then remember to unplug it. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 9:46 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anger Management Mobil 1, valves adjusted, fresh bettery? Then don't bother plugguing it in! On 2/20/06, Rory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for your comments all. I too did not have the nerve to take the keys and make her walk, although I threatened to not replace it and was quickly rebuffed when she stated that I would no longer be eating since she couldn't get to the store (I do so enjoy eating!). I've decided to unplug her car at the beginning of the day when I leave for work. Hers is the 82 300TD with about half a million miles. It doesn't get too cold here, only to the teens lately, but it's so much nicer to the car even then. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Taking care of your woman, was Anger Management
Rory wrote: I have to vent! My Bride, for the second time in 5 days, backed her car out of the drive and drove down the street with the extension cord plugged in to the block heater. Except today, the plug was ripped off the cord instead of just coming unplugged. AGGGHHH!! This woman, who never misses an opportunity to dog me for being forgetful, claims that since she doesn't think about cars 24 hours a day like me, that she can't be expected to remember to unplug the heater. I offered to drape the cord over the rearview mirror, but she claims that it wouldn't help!! So speaking as a jerk who's been married to the same (long-suffering) woman for the past 20 years, I'd say just let it go. Sure, unplug it for her...if that works. Or give her a picture of yourself in a small frame with the words Unplug before driving off to put on the dashboard or steering wheel when she plugs in. Make it easy for her to be successful on this. Stop making her wrong. Or sleep in the garage. Alone. Just my .02. Lee
Re: [MBZ] Off Topic - keeping warm
Hey Mike,
I've had the fire going in my fireplace insert off and on since Nov. I wait
until the temp will be consistantly below 45-50F.
I'm home all the time (disabled) so it's easy for me to feed the monster.
The doors seal really well choking the fire down so it's controlled. So I
only have to refill it about 3 times a day - morning, afternoon and before
bed. On really cold nights I'll get up at 3 or so and check it.
I like the smell and seeing a curl of smoke coming out of the chimney is
pleasant to see. But it *is* kinda messy - everytime I bring wood into the
house I get the broom and dustpan to clean up.---
;-)
Sincerely,
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 6:20 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Off Topic - keeping warm
In a message dated 2/20/2006 6:18:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, PONDERSOA
writes:
in other news..
i was wondering how every one has been dong regarding house heat
it has been a mild winter here in phila
i have a wood stove insert that has saved me a fortune in heating costs
in
my living room fireplace and a fireplace in the basement that i use for
enjoyment ( not a good efficient source of heat really)
so ... do we have any other wood burners out there ?
mike collins
phila pa 1985 500 sec
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Re: [MBZ] Off Topic - keeping warm
you wrote:,,add up the oil bills, came to $500some for the winter,
she refused to believe that
HA! Reminds me of when we lived in the mountains of western MD - where it
gets *really* cold. One Jan AM it was 90F below windshill - the wind found
a way to get into the basement and freeze a water line! Br.
When we fired up the wood/coal stove the gas company came out to check out
furnace - siad the bill was *too* low - we weren't using enough gas! They
thought I had bypassed their metering system! Creeps!
Same town that has a $100 min water/sewage bill! The house was empty for a
month between renters and we were *pisses* when that bill came in - $100
freakin' dollars with *no* one in the house!! Crooks! Where we live now,
our water bill is around $35 for 2 months! Zero for sewage as we have a
septic system.
Anyway -
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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- Original Message -
From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Off Topic - keeping warm
When I lived near Boston I ran a woodstove in my kitchen of the old
Victorian, kept the thermostat low, the heat went up the back stairs and
kept upstairs nice and toasty. When got ready to sell the house the
realtor wanted to add up the oil bills, came to $500some for the winter,
she refused to believe that. Most people were spending that per month
in the big old drafty houses. I'd run the boiler in the morning to get
the house warm and then when I got home to warm it up, one of those
cheap timer thermos, set it way low over night and during the day. I
would scrounge wood from the neighborhood when the city or neighbors cut
down trees, sometimes the city guys would drop off nice oak and maple
they had cut up already into manageable chunks, i would split it. A few
6s now and again left out by the trash on pickup day kept the supply
flowing.
--R
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 2/20/2006 6:18:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, PONDERSOA
writes:
in other news..
i was wondering how every one has been dong regarding house heat
it has been a mild winter here in phila
i have a wood stove insert that has saved me a fortune in heating costs
in
my living room fireplace and a fireplace in the basement that i use for
enjoyment ( not a good efficient source of heat really)
so ... do we have any other wood burners out there ?
mike collins
phila pa 1985 500 sec
Go Villanova
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Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon Rear strut/shock
Don't know about the W123 Hydropneumatic struts - but the old W108s used one
next to the rear axle and they were *not* rebuildable. There were some
companies offering a coil spring kit to replace a bad hydro strut. I
bought a spring kit for around $55 IIRC. I believe the struts were almost
$500 at the time.
I really like those old W108s, W109s W111's but they require deep pockets
to keep them going. I wish I still had one though.
Sincerely,
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From: Real Estate [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon Rear strut/shock
Hi Chuck,
I know the new ones are $500 each. I know the 123s can be rebuilt. I am
hoping there is a rebuild option for the 124. Shock Absorber; Rear
Left/Right; Hydropneumatic Self-Leveling is the book jargon. I have heard
them referred to as shocks and as struts. I don't care what anyone wants
to call them, I just hope I don't have to shell out $1000 (plus the other
parts) to get this car running.
Has anyone out there got a Shock Absorber; Hydropneumatic Self-Leveling,
that you could look at to see if it comes apart?
Loren
Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Loren,
I'm no expert on the 124's... But I don't think the rears are
struts..
What I've chased shows the following:
Shock Absorber; Rear Left/Right; Hydropneumatic Self-Leveling
They ain't cheap!
There are struts on the front only.
Hope this helps...
Chuck
Phoenix AZ
On Feb 20, 2006, at 4:40 PM, Real Estate wrote:
I want to rebuild the rear struts in the 88 TE. I know others have
rebuilt the 123 hydraulic struts. Rusty can't find a kit to sell
me for the 124 wagon struts. Has anyone rebuilt 124 struts, or is
the only choice to buy new ones? I need a source for parts, and
advice about any tools needed. Are they simply o-rings, and I buy
the boot and mouninting kit, then find orings locally?
Les, are you lurking out there? I think you have the answer?
Loren Faeth
88 300TE
87 TD, et al
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Re: [MBZ] Off Topic - keeping warm
you wrote: Find a good used insert or wood stove
I've had both - and now use a Woodcheif Insert. It works well enough but
the free standing woodstove seems to be *much* better at providing heat.
The Woodchief has a built in fan to blow the heat away frm the stove but the
freestanding stove provided heat on 4 sides and the top - with a small fan
oscillating on the floor behind it, the heat was substantial.
The only probem with the freestanding unit it safety - plus, it takes up
valuable floor space.
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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- Original Message -
From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 8:57 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Off Topic - keeping warm
On Monday, February 20, 2006, at 07:49 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:
Without the Heatilator, using the wood
isn't a gain. Too much lost up the chimney. With it,
who knows? We all figure it can't hurt.
-- Jim
Fireplaces are a waste of wood. not only are they inefficient in the
task of making heat from wood but you have a gaping hole in your house
sucking out the heat as it dies out. Close the damper too soon and you
get a house full of smoke. Find a good used insert or wood stove for
him. Earn kegs of beer for pick-up, modification installation.
Johnny B.
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Re: [MBZ] Off Topic - keeping warm
you wrote:my bills have been 160 to 300 ever since
however my neighbor across the street has received an $1800.00 (eighteen
hundred) dollar gas bill
And they probably no longer wonder how you can drive a very nice MB!
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Off Topic - keeping warm
when i moved in my house my neighbors were getting 800 a month gas bills
my neighbor used to laugh at me for collecting wood !
( if i EVER got a 800 dollar bill for ANYTHING i would have laid on the
floor and instantaneously had a baby and died .)
i used a smaller stove the first year the second year i purchased a
larger
one osburn 2400
my bills have been 160 to 300 ever since
however my neighbor across the street has received an $1800.00 (eighteen
hundred) dollar gas bill ...( yep that's right)
he does not laugh at me any more
collins
1985 500 sec
phila pa
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Re: [MBZ] CD Wiring?
Thanks Kaleb -
With everyone's help I'll soon learn how my new MB works!
;-)
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] CD Wiring?
Yes, its prewired. The radio is a becker, its actually a 3 piece deal.
The head unit, then the actual radio unit is in the trunk, behind the
liner on the passenger side. The 3rd piece is the amp. You can use a
certain model of alpine cd changer, but requires 3 different adaptors,
wiring harnesses etc. 2 of the adapters can be ordered from any car
audio shop, they are made by PIE. The 3rd one is some sort of converter
box you have to get at the dealer. Its about $160 I think last time I
ordered one. Think the other adapters are about $60 each or so. You
have to plug all that mess together and it will work. The dealer should
have the instruction sheet for it.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Howdy -
Still learning about my 91 300D - the radio is CD compatible - does that
mean the wiring is pre-installed?
Would make installation a *lot* easier -
Not sure what kind of radio it is - it says Mercedes Benz on it - does
that mean it's a Becker?
;-)TIA
Sincerely,
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Re: [MBZ] Oil Change - Questions
Werner wrote:my apologies for giving misleading info on the rear view
mirror
Not a problem - being cautious is always the best policy. ;-)
Thanks for the oil info -- I want to get that changes as quickly as
possibly - when I checked the oil level I could see it was thick and
obviously dino juice. I don't like that stuff!
I was thinking about using my Topsider to extract the oil - you mentioned
draining it and allowing enough time -- is draining preferred on this model?
I'll probably have to extract some, them dr
I plan to change the ATF also - thanks for including the info about it. I
have a AT filter kit on the way from Rusty - and will be sure to drain the
TC when the time comes. I assume the pan on the AT does *not* have a drain
plug like the olds used to - and I'll probably make a mess when I drop the
pan. I may try to extract the ATF with my Topsider to minimize the amount
of fluid that ends up on the floor! ;-)
Thanks again!
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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- Original Message -
From: Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Change - Questions
Larry - as for the oil, the book says 8 qts, but you can only get about 7
in
before its over full. That's partly because the cooler and hoses hold a
lot, and also most people don't get all the oil out because it takes so
long
to really let it drain. And good synthetics like Delvac1, as Marshall
pointed out recently, really clings to the metal surfaces and it can take
literally hours before it all drains into the crankcase. So the accepted
rule is to refill only to the point that it is halfway between the add and
full marks.
Its a similar situation for the transmission - especially if you take the
trouble to drain the torque converter. Add to that the complication that
the full mark on the dipstick is for a transmission and oil at operating
temperature, so again it pays to be patient and fill it in increments.
I would have 8 qts of engine oil and 8 qts of ATF on hand before doing
either job, and 2 quarts of differential Mobil1 when you get to the
differential.
And my apologies for giving misleading info on the rear view mirror - I
went
out to the garage and looked at my wife's car, and the base of the mirror
is
actually mounted to the windshield surround, and apparently not directly
to
the glass. I must have been recalling an earlier car of mine.
Werner
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Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 4:51 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Oil Change - Questions
I plan to change the oil filter in my '91 300D Turbo this week - ordered
parts from Rusty -
How many quarts of oil (mobil 1) will I need to buy? How hard is it to
get
to the oil filter?
Any unusual stuff I should expect? I also ordered a AT Filter kit - need
to
know how much ATF to buy?
TIA -
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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Re: [MBZ] Oil CHange
Peter wrote: Most parts stores that carry Wix filters will have the oil filter (and Wix is very good). Probably 8 quarts if the 603 engine is a guide, at least 6 anyway. I think this was in response to Larry's question about an oil change in his new 92 300D. If that is correct, I would buy 8 quarts, but only put in 7.5. When I had my 90 124 I learned that a full 8 quarts was too much. If you follow Dr. Booth's rule that the oil should be HALFWAY between the full and add mark. 8 quarts puts it past the full mark. At least that was my experience. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL
Re: [MBZ] Off Topic - keeping warm
My best wood stove was a furnace add-on a welder made for folks in Indiana.
It was an inner metal box about 14 x 18 surrounded by a 2 larger metal
box with a fan that attached to the central heat / AC plenum. It used the
existing duct work and heated the entire house. With the feed door acting
as a baffle you could easily regulate the amount of air and speed of burn.
The double wall system was pretty efficient, and with a temperature
activated blower to force warm air it saved me a lot of $$$ in Winter.
Wouldn't have wanted to have it in a part of the house as a decorator item,
though. Worked well, but was not especially pretty.
BillR
Jacksonville FL
1981 300SD 'EM' 271K miles Delvac
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Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 8:50 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Off Topic - keeping warm
you wrote: Find a good used insert or wood stove
I've had both - and now use a Woodcheif Insert. It works well enough but
the free standing woodstove seems to be *much* better at providing heat.
The Woodchief has a built in fan to blow the heat away frm the stove but the
freestanding stove provided heat on 4 sides and the top - with a small fan
oscillating on the floor behind it, the heat was substantial.
The only probem with the freestanding unit it safety - plus, it takes up
valuable floor space.
Sincerely,
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- Original Message -
From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 8:57 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Off Topic - keeping warm
On Monday, February 20, 2006, at 07:49 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:
Without the Heatilator, using the wood
isn't a gain. Too much lost up the chimney. With it,
who knows? We all figure it can't hurt.
-- Jim
Fireplaces are a waste of wood. not only are they inefficient in the
task of making heat from wood but you have a gaping hole in your house
sucking out the heat as it dies out. Close the damper too soon and you
get a house full of smoke. Find a good used insert or wood stove for
him. Earn kegs of beer for pick-up, modification installation.
Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am
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Re: [MBZ] Off Topic - keeping warm
On Tuesday, February 21, 2006, at 08:49 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I've had both - and now use a Woodcheif Insert. It works well enough
but
the free standing woodstove seems to be *much* better at providing
heat.
The Woodchief has a built in fan to blow the heat away frm the stove
but the
freestanding stove provided heat on 4 sides and the top - with a small
fan
oscillating on the floor behind it, the heat was substantial.
The only probem with the freestanding unit it safety - plus, it takes
up
valuable floor space.
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
We initially had one wood stove and a fireplace. After being deeply
involved in the physical aspect of cutting, splitting, stacking and
burning firewood, my wife realized the what a waste the fireplace was.
While I was down South working, she bought a mint Vermont Castings
Resolute Vigilant stove for $250 and had a couple of my good friends
install it on the hearth of our fireplace.
People like to see the flames for some reason. I am content knowing
that heat is being made. The stove she bought has glass in the door and
came with a cast iron piece to be used in lieu of glass.
From experience, I learned that to replace the glass with the right
stuff is expensive. Heat causes expansion which can cause the glass to
break, sudden cooling and impacts from wood being dropped in can also
break the glass. I removed the glass and cut it down the middle
allowing some expansion to prevent damage to the glass.
In the past few days this area was hit by sub-zero temps and 60-70mph
winds blowing down trees and utility poles causing widespread power
outages. We lost power for less than 2 hours but many thousands of
homes and businesses have been without power since mid-day Friday.
Frozen pipes are bursting and many folks are staying in mass shelters
until power is restored and pipes repaired. People are dying as a
result, at least 2 were killed when trees hit their vehicles while
driving.
We will be OK, our stoves provide not only heat, we cook in and on
them even when there is no power outage. I live a stones throw from
Lake George which also serves as a local source of domestic water. The
lake is still very clean and safe for drinking/cooking. If things get
bad, I can always go to the lake with 5gal buckets and ice spud in
hand. There are also several springs from which folks can draw as much
water as is needed. A small inconvenience in comparison to the plight
of others.
Staying warm is a life or death situation around here.
Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] Oil Change - Questions
The AT pan has a hex-head drain plug, but even after you drain it out
there's still about 1/2 - 1 pint of ATF in the pan. Tends to be messy.
The one issue I had with ATF changes is that I didn't have any way to let
air into the system, so the ATF draining looked like someone pouring a
gallon of milk too quickly (i.e. blug-blug-blug instead of laminar flow).
This was true of draining the torque converter. I suspect that if you
loosen a line somewhere, flow becomes smoother and drainage is more
complete.
On 2/21/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Werner wrote:my apologies for giving misleading info on the rear view
mirror
Not a problem - being cautious is always the best policy. ;-)
Thanks for the oil info -- I want to get that changes as quickly as
possibly - when I checked the oil level I could see it was thick and
obviously dino juice. I don't like that stuff!
I was thinking about using my Topsider to extract the oil - you mentioned
draining it and allowing enough time -- is draining preferred on this
model?
I'll probably have to extract some, them dr
I plan to change the ATF also - thanks for including the info about it. I
have a AT filter kit on the way from Rusty - and will be sure to drain the
TC when the time comes. I assume the pan on the AT does *not* have a
drain
plug like the olds used to - and I'll probably make a mess when I drop the
pan. I may try to extract the ATF with my Topsider to minimize the amount
of fluid that ends up on the floor! ;-)
Thanks again!
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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- Original Message -
From: Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Change - Questions
Larry - as for the oil, the book says 8 qts, but you can only get about
7
in
before its over full. That's partly because the cooler and hoses hold a
lot, and also most people don't get all the oil out because it takes so
long
to really let it drain. And good synthetics like Delvac1, as Marshall
pointed out recently, really clings to the metal surfaces and it can
take
literally hours before it all drains into the crankcase. So the
accepted
rule is to refill only to the point that it is halfway between the add
and
full marks.
Its a similar situation for the transmission - especially if you take
the
trouble to drain the torque converter. Add to that the complication
that
the full mark on the dipstick is for a transmission and oil at
operating
temperature, so again it pays to be patient and fill it in increments.
I would have 8 qts of engine oil and 8 qts of ATF on hand before doing
either job, and 2 quarts of differential Mobil1 when you get to the
differential.
And my apologies for giving misleading info on the rear view mirror - I
went
out to the garage and looked at my wife's car, and the base of the
mirror
is
actually mounted to the windshield surround, and apparently not directly
to
the glass. I must have been recalling an earlier car of mine.
Werner
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 4:51 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Oil Change - Questions
I plan to change the oil filter in my '91 300D Turbo this week -
ordered
parts from Rusty -
How many quarts of oil (mobil 1) will I need to buy? How hard is it
to
get
to the oil filter?
Any unusual stuff I should expect? I also ordered a AT Filter kit -
need
to
know how much ATF to buy?
TIA -
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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Re: [MBZ] Oil Change - Questions
On Tuesday, February 21, 2006, at 09:07 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I was thinking about using my Topsider to extract the oil - you
mentioned
draining it and allowing enough time -- is draining preferred on this
model?
I'll probably have to extract some, them dr
Still a matter of personal preference. There will still be oil in the
cooler and lines, so don't sweat getting every last drop out, it is
impossible to do so.
I plan to change the ATF also - thanks for including the info about
it. I
have a AT filter kit on the way from Rusty - and will be sure to drain
the
TC when the time comes.
Loosen a cooler line to avoid the glug-glug effect while the TC is
draining.
I assume the pan on the AT does *not* have a drain
plug like the olds used to - and I'll probably make a mess when I drop
the
pan. I may try to extract the ATF with my Topsider to minimize the
amount
of fluid that ends up on the floor! ;-)
There should be a drain plug in the pan. If not I would take the
opportunity to either weld one in or buy a pan with a drain built-in.
Topsider will work fine for you.
Thanks again!
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] Off Topic - keeping warm
Johnny B. - you remind me of my years in the frozen wastelands of Indiana.
Sounds like you are far more prepared than most, certainly than I was. Got
down to -34 one weekend [couldn't believe my Chevy started on the first
crank]. One of our friends whose home was on a small hill lost power and
pipes froze in the basement. She had 2 - 3 feet of ice in her basement when
she got home. My [then difficult to afford] investment in the wood stove
suddenly seemed well worth it.
BillR
Jacksonville FL
1981 300SD 'EM' 271K - Delvac
-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 10:38 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Off Topic - keeping warm
On Tuesday, February 21, 2006, at 08:49 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I've had both - and now use a Woodcheif Insert. It works well enough
but the free standing woodstove seems to be *much* better at providing
heat.
The Woodchief has a built in fan to blow the heat away frm the stove
but the freestanding stove provided heat on 4 sides and the top - with
a small fan oscillating on the floor behind it, the heat was
substantial.
The only probem with the freestanding unit it safety - plus, it takes
up valuable floor space.
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
We initially had one wood stove and a fireplace. After being deeply
involved in the physical aspect of cutting, splitting, stacking and burning
firewood, my wife realized the what a waste the fireplace was.
While I was down South working, she bought a mint Vermont Castings
Resolute Vigilant stove for $250 and had a couple of my good friends install
it on the hearth of our fireplace.
People like to see the flames for some reason. I am content knowing
that heat is being made. The stove she bought has glass in the door and came
with a cast iron piece to be used in lieu of glass.
From experience, I learned that to replace the glass with the right
stuff is expensive. Heat causes expansion which can cause the glass to
break, sudden cooling and impacts from wood being dropped in can also break
the glass. I removed the glass and cut it down the middle allowing some
expansion to prevent damage to the glass.
In the past few days this area was hit by sub-zero temps and
60-70mph winds blowing down trees and utility poles causing widespread power
outages. We lost power for less than 2 hours but many thousands of homes and
businesses have been without power since mid-day Friday.
Frozen pipes are bursting and many folks are staying in mass shelters until
power is restored and pipes repaired. People are dying as a result, at least
2 were killed when trees hit their vehicles while driving.
We will be OK, our stoves provide not only heat, we cook in and on
them even when there is no power outage. I live a stones throw from Lake
George which also serves as a local source of domestic water. The lake is
still very clean and safe for drinking/cooking. If things get bad, I can
always go to the lake with 5gal buckets and ice spud in hand. There are also
several springs from which folks can draw as much water as is needed. A
small inconvenience in comparison to the plight of others.
Staying warm is a life or death situation around here.
Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am
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Re: [MBZ] Spotted 300CD for sale
Price is way too high for an '82 CD with obvious issues. On 2/20/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Driving around here in Tucson, I spotted an '82 CD for sale. When I saw the topic I thought: Rust spots? Gateway paint job? -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Off Topic - keeping warm
On Tuesday, February 21, 2006, at 10:50 AM, BillR wrote: Johnny B. - you remind me of my years in the frozen wastelands of Indiana. Sounds like you are far more prepared than most, certainly than I was. Got down to -34 one weekend [couldn't believe my Chevy started on the first crank]. One of our friends whose home was on a small hill lost power and pipes froze in the basement. She had 2 - 3 feet of ice in her basement when she got home. My [then difficult to afford] investment in the wood stove suddenly seemed well worth it. BillR That happens all to frequently around here. There are many seasonal or 2nd homes in this area and many folks do not take precautions and return in the spring to a swimming pool in the basement. In recent years some mfrs are making hot water heaters with dense foam insulation. A great idea except when flooding occurs, they will float and break the water feed line making matters worse as the water will flow freely until someone stops it. The water heaters with fiberglass insulation generally will not float. Something to think about if you have a home in the frozen white North or a flood plain. I have learned an awful lot about things like this from working disasters with FEMA. Houses and coffins can float up out of the ground during floods too. Another lesson learned. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] Off Topic - keeping warm
Having grown up in Illinois, I remember those winters and those winter woes
well. We were discussing weather the other night at the old nuke plant and a
native Az-er was trying to convince everyone that trying to keep cool in our
summers was harder than trying to stay warm in the back east winters. We
pretty much told him he was nuts, citing instances like Johnny B talked
about (it's fun giving crap to him...he was a Chief on a sub...he takes it
so well).
There is no comparison. When you're hot here, get in the shade...jump in a
pool. When you're freezing cold back there, without heat or the prospect of
heat, you're screwed.
Bob Rentfro (don't miss the winters...much)
'77 300D 149K
'01 VW Beetle TDI 61K
Litchfield Park, AZ
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From: BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 8:50 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Off Topic - keeping warm
Johnny B. - you remind me of my years in the frozen wastelands of Indiana.
Sounds like you are far more prepared than most, certainly than I was. Got
down to -34 one weekend [couldn't believe my Chevy started on the first
crank]. One of our friends whose home was on a small hill lost power and
pipes froze in the basement. She had 2 - 3 feet of ice in her basement
when
she got home. My [then difficult to afford] investment in the wood stove
suddenly seemed well worth it.
BillR
Jacksonville FL
1981 300SD 'EM' 271K - Delvac
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of John Berryman
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 10:38 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Off Topic - keeping warm
On Tuesday, February 21, 2006, at 08:49 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I've had both - and now use a Woodcheif Insert. It works well enough
but the free standing woodstove seems to be *much* better at providing
heat.
The Woodchief has a built in fan to blow the heat away frm the stove
but the freestanding stove provided heat on 4 sides and the top - with
a small fan oscillating on the floor behind it, the heat was
substantial.
The only probem with the freestanding unit it safety - plus, it takes
up valuable floor space.
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
We initially had one wood stove and a fireplace. After being deeply
involved in the physical aspect of cutting, splitting, stacking and
burning
firewood, my wife realized the what a waste the fireplace was.
While I was down South working, she bought a mint Vermont Castings
Resolute Vigilant stove for $250 and had a couple of my good friends
install
it on the hearth of our fireplace.
People like to see the flames for some reason. I am content knowing
that heat is being made. The stove she bought has glass in the door and
came
with a cast iron piece to be used in lieu of glass.
From experience, I learned that to replace the glass with the right
stuff is expensive. Heat causes expansion which can cause the glass to
break, sudden cooling and impacts from wood being dropped in can also
break
the glass. I removed the glass and cut it down the middle allowing some
expansion to prevent damage to the glass.
In the past few days this area was hit by sub-zero temps and
60-70mph winds blowing down trees and utility poles causing widespread
power
outages. We lost power for less than 2 hours but many thousands of homes
and
businesses have been without power since mid-day Friday.
Frozen pipes are bursting and many folks are staying in mass shelters
until
power is restored and pipes repaired. People are dying as a result, at
least
2 were killed when trees hit their vehicles while driving.
We will be OK, our stoves provide not only heat, we cook in and on
them even when there is no power outage. I live a stones throw from Lake
George which also serves as a local source of domestic water. The lake is
still very clean and safe for drinking/cooking. If things get bad, I can
always go to the lake with 5gal buckets and ice spud in hand. There are
also
several springs from which folks can draw as much water as is needed. A
small inconvenience in comparison to the plight of others.
Staying warm is a life or death situation around here.
Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am
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Re: [MBZ] Spotted 300CD for sale
On Tuesday, February 21, 2006, at 11:08 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Price is way too high for an '82 CD with obvious issues. How much do you figure it should go for? How about a near mint one? Blue Book is not a good enough source for value of these cars. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] Oil Change - Questions
Larry - yes, the AT has a drain plug, but that will not drain the torque
converter. You have to turn the engine over (in the correct direction) very
slowly until the small Allen-head drain bolt appears at the bottom, then
remove it to drain the fluid. Then you just slightly loosen the external
oil line on the left side of the transmission, up near the top so as to
break the vacuum.
Of course, the major PITA is removing first the front sound panel, and then
the rear main sound panel. And if the small metal clips are stripped, I
would recommend getting a few to keep on hand for spares. The hex head
screws have a big metal washer to firmly hold up the sound panel, and the
metal clip just gets tapped into the opening in the frame.
Werner
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Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 9:07 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Change - Questions
Werner wrote:my apologies for giving misleading info on the rear view
mirror
Not a problem - being cautious is always the best policy. ;-)
Thanks for the oil info -- I want to get that changes as quickly as
possibly - when I checked the oil level I could see it was thick and
obviously dino juice. I don't like that stuff!
I was thinking about using my Topsider to extract the oil - you mentioned
draining it and allowing enough time -- is draining preferred on this
model?
I'll probably have to extract some, them dr
I plan to change the ATF also - thanks for including the info about it. I
have a AT filter kit on the way from Rusty - and will be sure to drain the
TC when the time comes. I assume the pan on the AT does *not* have a
drain
plug like the olds used to - and I'll probably make a mess when I drop the
pan. I may try to extract the ATF with my Topsider to minimize the amount
of fluid that ends up on the floor! ;-)
Thanks again!
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
Re: [MBZ] Oil Change - Questions
Larry - the dealers are almost all using topsiders these days as it saves
fooling around with the sound panels and therefore costs them less labor.
The tradeoff is that you don't get to see what else is going on under the
engine - loose items, small leaks, etc. And as we've mentioned before, you
cannot get all the old oil out using any method - there's the oil cooler,
big connecting lines, etc.
My preference is to get it on a lift or over a pit and take the time to go
over things thoroughly.
Werner
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Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 9:07 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Change - Questions
Werner wrote:my apologies for giving misleading info on the rear view
mirror
Not a problem - being cautious is always the best policy. ;-)
Thanks for the oil info -- I want to get that changes as quickly as
possibly - when I checked the oil level I could see it was thick and
obviously dino juice. I don't like that stuff!
I was thinking about using my Topsider to extract the oil - you mentioned
draining it and allowing enough time -- is draining preferred on this
model?
I'll probably have to extract some, them dr
I plan to change the ATF also - thanks for including the info about it. I
have a AT filter kit on the way from Rusty - and will be sure to drain the
TC when the time comes. I assume the pan on the AT does *not* have a
drain
plug like the olds used to - and I'll probably make a mess when I drop the
pan. I may try to extract the ATF with my Topsider to minimize the amount
of fluid that ends up on the floor! ;-)
Thanks again!
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
Re: [MBZ] Off Topic - keeping warm
So where do you get the wood? Around here, firewood is relatively expensive. The other alternative is to get it yourself but that requires a fair amount of equipment to do right. Also a dry place to store it etc. Also wonder about your insurance company. Around here, a woodstove is becoming an option that most insurance companies are not happy about. Proper installation is expensive and takes a fair amount of space. We are fortunate enough to have fairly reasonable natural gas rates so far. My 1800 square foot 2 storey costs, on average $150 per month to heat (including heating water). That is on a budget plan that runs throughout the year so we pay in the summer as well. Randy B in Winnipeg -Original Message- Subject: [MBZ] Off Topic - keeping warm In a message dated 2/20/2006 6:18:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, PONDERSOA writes: in other news.. i was wondering how every one has been dong regarding house heat it has been a mild winter here in phila i have a wood stove insert that has saved me a fortune in heating costs in my living room fireplace and a fireplace in the basement that i use for enjoyment ( not a good efficient source of heat really) so ... do we have any other wood burners out there ? mike collins phila pa 1985 500 sec Go Villanova
Re: [MBZ] any thoughts on our new look?
yes, that would be clever :) On 2/20/06, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very nice. (the horn button doesn't honk, though). On 2/20/06, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.buymbparts.com/newdesign/index.html# http://www.buymbparts.com/newdesign/index.html ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Off Topic - keeping warm
you wrote:Staying warm is a life or death situation around here.
Sorry to hear about nature's fury around you!
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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- Original Message -
From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Off Topic - keeping warm
On Tuesday, February 21, 2006, at 08:49 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I've had both - and now use a Woodcheif Insert. It works well enough
but
the free standing woodstove seems to be *much* better at providing
heat.
The Woodchief has a built in fan to blow the heat away frm the stove
but the
freestanding stove provided heat on 4 sides and the top - with a small
fan
oscillating on the floor behind it, the heat was substantial.
The only probem with the freestanding unit it safety - plus, it takes
up
valuable floor space.
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
We initially had one wood stove and a fireplace. After being deeply
involved in the physical aspect of cutting, splitting, stacking and
burning firewood, my wife realized the what a waste the fireplace was.
While I was down South working, she bought a mint Vermont Castings
Resolute Vigilant stove for $250 and had a couple of my good friends
install it on the hearth of our fireplace.
People like to see the flames for some reason. I am content knowing
that heat is being made. The stove she bought has glass in the door and
came with a cast iron piece to be used in lieu of glass.
From experience, I learned that to replace the glass with the right
stuff is expensive. Heat causes expansion which can cause the glass to
break, sudden cooling and impacts from wood being dropped in can also
break the glass. I removed the glass and cut it down the middle
allowing some expansion to prevent damage to the glass.
In the past few days this area was hit by sub-zero temps and 60-70mph
winds blowing down trees and utility poles causing widespread power
outages. We lost power for less than 2 hours but many thousands of
homes and businesses have been without power since mid-day Friday.
Frozen pipes are bursting and many folks are staying in mass shelters
until power is restored and pipes repaired. People are dying as a
result, at least 2 were killed when trees hit their vehicles while
driving.
We will be OK, our stoves provide not only heat, we cook in and on
them even when there is no power outage. I live a stones throw from
Lake George which also serves as a local source of domestic water. The
lake is still very clean and safe for drinking/cooking. If things get
bad, I can always go to the lake with 5gal buckets and ice spud in
hand. There are also several springs from which folks can draw as much
water as is needed. A small inconvenience in comparison to the plight
of others.
Staying warm is a life or death situation around here.
Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am
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Re: [MBZ] any thoughts on our new look?
That should be a very simple Java script and .wav file. On 2/21/06, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes, that would be clever :) On 2/20/06, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very nice. (the horn button doesn't honk, though). -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
[MBZ] mail
-- Forwarded message -- From: Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Feb 21, 2006 10:59 AM Subject: mail To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I cannot send mail from my gulseth.net account. Will you forward this? Thanks. subject: Re: [MBZ] Spotted 300CD for sale message body: My '82 CD had 153kmi, 2-3 1/4 spots of rust, a good interior, (parts of it apart...p/o trying to add more speakers) and a suspect tranny (fixed by changing to Mobile 1 ATF). It lacked TLC, drives like a scared cat, and was purchased for $1500. Might be on the low end, but that gives you an idea. Luther ~ ~On Tuesday, February 21, 2006, at 11:08 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: ~ ~ ~ Price is way too high for an '82 CD with obvious issues. ~ ~ ~ ~ How much do you figure it should go for? How about a near mint one? ~Blue Book is not a good enough source for value of these cars. ~ ~Johnny B. ~I Mac Therefore I am -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (230,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (158,222 kmi) '82 300D (74,000 kmi) alive and needing work '90 300E (parts or run?) -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] Oil Change - Questions
Whoa Werner,
What sound panels? Under the engine/tranny where I'll be working to change
the ATF? Remember, the most modern MB I'm used to is a '78 240D! Clatter
clatter! How are the sound panels held in place?
;-) Sounds like I'll need to pick up some of the metal clips prior to
starting this job?
I'm still starry eyed to learn I have a windshield washer reservoir with a
*heating* coil in it! That is *so* cool! And I see Buick (or someone)
advertising their heated WW fluid!! And MB was doing it *at least* 15 years
ago! ;-)
Have been out looking at the engine - the coolant level is about 1/2 way up
the reservoir - but I don't see a marker on the reservoir indicating the
proper level. But I suspect it's right. BTW, the coolant res. cap was
loose - probably caused the cooler than normal running? (a little below
80C)
Can the coolant flushing be left to an independant shop? Assuming I bring
the MB coolant and make sure they use it - I'd do it but I always seem to
spill a lot when opening the system to drain. Of course, it looks like MB
has really made things easy to work on with this W124 (in some areas)!
The belt looks to be in good condition - no visible cracks, abrasions, etc.
Found the fuse box (an improvement over the W123!) but it looks like the
same old ceramic fuses. I assume they still need to be replaced on a 12-15
year cycle? Meaning it's time now. Perhaps since the vibrations have been
reduced (so it seems) it's not necessary?
The hood has a foam pad near the latch mechanism - it has some damaged foam
so I'll want to replace it - but that's the only obvious thing needing
attention.
Am getting ready to vacuum the leaves and debris from the hinge area - will
probably see more stuff generating more questions --
Thanks to all who are helping! When I get my Owners Manual (5-10 days) and
other tech books it'll help with many of my questions. BTW, I ordered a
extra key - only came with one - which seems to be typical of a used car for
some reason. MB gets $25 for a key - forgot to ask Rusty to get one for
me --
Love this car!! ;-)
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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- Original Message -
From: Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Change - Questions
Larry - the dealers are almost all using topsiders these days as it saves
fooling around with the sound panels and therefore costs them less labor.
The tradeoff is that you don't get to see what else is going on under the
engine - loose items, small leaks, etc. And as we've mentioned before,
you
cannot get all the old oil out using any method - there's the oil cooler,
big connecting lines, etc.
My preference is to get it on a lift or over a pit and take the time to go
over things thoroughly.
Werner
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Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 9:07 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Change - Questions
Werner wrote:my apologies for giving misleading info on the rear view
mirror
Not a problem - being cautious is always the best policy. ;-)
Thanks for the oil info -- I want to get that changes as quickly as
possibly - when I checked the oil level I could see it was thick and
obviously dino juice. I don't like that stuff!
I was thinking about using my Topsider to extract the oil - you mentioned
draining it and allowing enough time -- is draining preferred on this
model?
I'll probably have to extract some, them dr
I plan to change the ATF also - thanks for including the info about it.
I
have a AT filter kit on the way from Rusty - and will be sure to drain
the
TC when the time comes. I assume the pan on the AT does *not* have a
drain
plug like the olds used to - and I'll probably make a mess when I drop
the
pan. I may try to extract the ATF with my Topsider to minimize the
amount
of fluid that ends up on the floor! ;-)
Thanks again!
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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Re: [MBZ] Oil Change - Questions
What sound panels? Under the engine/tranny where I'll be working to change 201, 124 and 126 diesels (and probably all newer ones too) have belly pans under both the engine and transmission areas. They reduce the sound transmitted outside the car considerably. To the point where it's a bit hard to tell they're diesels. the ATF? Remember, the most modern MB I'm used to is a '78 240D! Clatter clatter! How are the sound panels held in place? Big-headed sheet metal screws. The pans tend to disappear, due to road damage and/or the carelessness of Iffy-Lube monkeys. The pans are expensive to replace. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Off Topic - keeping warm
So where do you get the wood? Around here, firewood is relatively expensive. Off our hillside. We've got 20 acres of pine trees. Neighbors with less personal resources get a permit from the lumber company (it's cheap) and harvest from the slash piles. The other alternative is to get it yourself but that requires a fair amount of equipment to do right. Also a dry place to store it etc. You do need a woodshed, but otherwise nothing more than a pickup truck, axe, and chainsaw. And you can do without the truck if you are on flat land, and have a beater MB that you don't mind treating like a truck! (Take out seats and remove trunk lid, and fill 'er up!) See http://www.woodheat.org for lots more information, including plans for an ultra-cheap woodshed. -- Jim
[MBZ] test
Can I send mail from here? From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Feb 21 17:32:00 2006 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.68]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FBbMm-0001mz-8h for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 17:32:00 + Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([216.79.244.180]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:31:51 -0500 Received: from D4W8P421 ([216.79.244.180]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with SMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:31:49 -0500 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 11:32:05 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Off Topic - FloLogic, was keeping warm X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 17:32:00 - I installed a Flologic water circuit breaker in the main water line coming into the house. Any water outlet running for more than 20 minutes (adjustable) and the Flologic shuts off the main line. If you go out of town and push the away button, it shuts down in 30 seconds. If you don't push the away button, it will do it for you after 18 hours of no water being used It won't stop freezing but it will prevent a major flood situation. It lets you know if something is left running, such as a toilet. One of my best purchases. Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans One of our friends whose home was on a small hill lost power and pipes froze in the basement. She had 2 - 3 feet of ice in her basement when she got home. My [then difficult to afford] investment in the wood stove suddenly seemed well worth it. BillR That happens all to frequently around here. There are many seasonal or 2nd homes in this area and many folks do not take precautions and return in the spring to a swimming pool in the basement. In recent years some mfrs are making hot water heaters with dense foam insulation. A great idea except when flooding occurs, they will float and break the water feed line making matters worse as the water will flow freely until someone stops it.
Re: [MBZ] Pumping oil out of injectors OM617
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How was oil consumption prior to this event? Ah, that's a question. On this car it's low if driven hard, when it's left idling in the cold it goes through a LOT. However it's hard to quantify as it's got two significant oil leaks, one out the pan gasket in front and the other is where the breather tube exits out the left side of the pan (bad seal that my wrench is procrastinating wanting to do). IIRC from my old w126, this tube is a CA-emissions-only deal, runs from pan up to the bottom of the air cleaner assembly. Try to find a rebuild-able set of newer ones if possible. I haven't seen all that many blow that seal out but it obviously happens. Could be that the 2 halves weren't torqued properly on assembly or maybe they vibrate loose. Yeah, from the sounds of them at least two need to be cleaned/rebuilt pretty bad actually. THX Mac
Re: [MBZ] Off Topic - keeping warm
On Tuesday, February 21, 2006, at 01:40 PM, R A Bennell wrote: So where do you get the wood? Around here, firewood is relatively expensive. The other alternative is to get it yourself but that requires a fair amount of equipment to do right. Also a dry place to store it etc. My wood comes from the woods. Where else? I have access to many wood lots, logged land and logging headers. We do not own a wood lot but nature occasionally provides us with a blow-down. Another good source of easy to get at wood is when the Power Co clears the growth that can damage power lines. Also wonder about your insurance company. Around here, a woodstove is becoming an option that most insurance companies are not happy about. Proper installation is expensive and takes a fair amount of space. I go above and beyond building code requirements. I want to stay warm not die trying. We have no problem with insurance as a result of complying. We are fortunate enough to have fairly reasonable natural gas rates so far. My 1800 square foot 2 storey costs, on average $150 per month to heat (including heating water). That is on a budget plan that runs throughout the year so we pay in the summer as well. We fill our 1,000 gal tank every Summer when prices are more reasonable but only use between 400 and 600 gal/year. Our furnace supplies the hot water. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] Off Topic - keeping warm
On Tuesday, February 21, 2006, at 11:40 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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you wrote:Staying warm is a life or death situation around here.
Sorry to hear about nature's fury around you!
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
Being prepared and resourceful makes it no big deal for us.
Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] Pics from my latest Beater-Benz journey
someone claiming to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dell City/My Land/Carlsbad/Hike to Guadalupe Peak http://www.pbdev.com/westtex/ Nice pics. Try to take better shots of the most important thing, next time. No, not YOU. The CD, for heaven's sake. Mac
Re: [MBZ] Oil Change - Questions
Larry - you have a lot of ground to cover in your questions! First, the 124 2.5 Diesels have (in my case) 2 sound panels, the front one about 3x3 ft which gives access to the engine drains, radiator lower end, etc - and held on with 4 of those special screws. This panel has to come off before you get to remove the rear panel, about 3x4 ft, under the transmission. A real PITA if you try it while on your back, but a piece of cake on a lift. And I keep a few of those screws and clips on hand, as if you overtighten and strip out the clips, the best fix is just to replace them. Some second owners have found the sound panels missing as places like Jiffy Lube are suspected of just forgetting to put them back on! Make sure you take a good look at the metal transmission cooler lines right under the radiator, as with the panels in place, they can get corrosion started there (another reason to look around). Also look for chafe points on those lines. The serpentine belt should look evenly smooth on the flat side, and have no cracks of the grooved side. Changing the belt is simple; getting to it is another PITA job. Coolant level is at the seam of the plastic expansion tank. A loose cap would make me want to see why the engine was run without any cooling system pressure - leaks??? With no pressure, the system might even run hot or boil off some water. Normal temp is around 90-95C, with 100C OK. You might want to get a new radiator pressure cap from Rusty just to be safe. Flushing the system is supposed to be done every 2 years (and I'm delinquent in that on my car). In the old days, we just dumped the old stuff on the ground, but now the EPA and animal rights people have educated us to dispose of this poisonous stuff correctly. I'll get around to that one of these days - but I suspect that if the engine isn't overheating, that a simple drain and refill with good M-B antifreeze (50-50) will suffice. IMO, snake oil procedures are only needed if there are cooling system problems. But while doing this coolant flush is a good time to change the thermostat if the car isn't running at the proper temperature - and you probably want to change the serpentine belt at the same time. Getting working space in there usually involves removing the fan shroud and fan, which is held on by a small 8mm Allen bolt (and it will appear to have been tightened to 200 ft-lbs!!). M-B makes a special tool to do that job, which amounts to a very long arm ratchet handle for the 8 mm screw, and a simple notched bar to hold the pulley, both of which you can improvise. Yes, by all means replace the fuses - and have a 30A strip fuse on hand in case you have to replace the blower fuse. The foam strip across the front underside of the hood keeps the air going through the radiator. I've had to replace mine once in 15 years. And vacuum out all the leaves and debris on both sides - you should make sure that the drains are all open, and that there's no corrosion starting under the battery area. There, have I covered the questions?? Werner - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 12:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Change - Questions Whoa Werner, What sound panels? Under the engine/tranny where I'll be working to change the ATF? Remember, the most modern MB I'm used to is a '78 240D! Clatter clatter! How are the sound panels held in place? ;-) Sounds like I'll need to pick up some of the metal clips prior to starting this job? I'm still starry eyed to learn I have a windshield washer reservoir with a *heating* coil in it! That is *so* cool! And I see Buick (or someone) advertising their heated WW fluid!! And MB was doing it *at least* 15 years ago! ;-) Have been out looking at the engine - the coolant level is about 1/2 way up the reservoir - but I don't see a marker on the reservoir indicating the proper level. But I suspect it's right. BTW, the coolant res. cap was loose - probably caused the cooler than normal running? (a little below 80C) Can the coolant flushing be left to an independant shop? Assuming I bring the MB coolant and make sure they use it - I'd do it but I always seem to spill a lot when opening the system to drain. Of course, it looks like MB has really made things easy to work on with this W124 (in some areas)! The belt looks to be in good condition - no visible cracks, abrasions, etc. Found the fuse box (an improvement over the W123!) but it looks like the same old ceramic fuses. I assume they still need to be replaced on a 12-15 year cycle? Meaning it's time now. Perhaps since the vibrations have been reduced (so it seems) it's not necessary? The hood has a foam pad near the latch mechanism - it has some damaged foam so I'll want to replace it - but that's the only obvious thing needing attention. Am getting ready to vacuum the leaves and
Re: [MBZ] Off Topic - FloLogic, was keeping warm
Where did you get that Harry? Thanks Dave W I installed a Flologic water circuit breaker in the main water line coming into the house. Any water outlet running for more than 20 minutes (adjustable) and the Flologic shuts off the main line. If you go out of town and push the away button, it shuts down in 30 seconds. If you don't push the away button, it will do it for you after 18 hours of no water being used
Re: [MBZ] Off Topic - keeping warm
Mike, We used wood stoves from the mid 70' s to the mid 90's and rarely had to turn on the central steam heat. I cut a good bit of what we used (i.e. free or cheap). Had to stop using wood because my wife was developing serious allergies. The best stove we found for our purpose was a Kresno. It could be burned open like a fire place or closed as an air tight stove. Really miss using it. We have a 4 year gas boiler and gas hot water heater. Looks like cost will peak to 300 to 350 during the coldest months for our 2000 sq. ft old house.) Richard Murdoch Winston-Salem NC 82 240D 82 300TDt (MLS Villanova '64) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/02/20 Mon PM 06:20:25 EST To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Off Topic - keeping warm In a message dated 2/20/2006 6:18:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, PONDERSOA writes: in other news.. i was wondering how every one has been dong regarding house heat it has been a mild winter here in phila i have a wood stove insert that has saved me a fortune in heating costs in my living room fireplace and a fireplace in the basement that i use for enjoyment ( not a good efficient source of heat really) so ... do we have any other wood burners out there ? mike collins phila pa 1985 500 sec Go Villanova ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Pumping oil out of injectors OM617
The oil drain pipe from the turbo down to the pan isn't only for CA cars. On my '83 126, all the O-ring seals had to be replaced to stop some significant oil leaks - a messy job, but worth the effort. Also make sure the air cleaner drain is connected properly - the flex mounts break, and eventually someone doesn't connect the drain properly. Werner
Re: [MBZ] mail
On Tuesday, February 21, 2006, at 12:01 PM, LT Don wrote: I cannot send mail from my gulseth.net account. Will you forward this? Thanks. subject: Re: [MBZ] Spotted 300CD for sale message body: My '82 CD had 153kmi, 2-3 1/4 spots of rust, a good interior, (parts of it apart...p/o trying to add more speakers) and a suspect tranny (fixed by changing to Mobile 1 ATF). It lacked TLC, drives like a scared cat, and was purchased for $1500. Might be on the low end, but that gives you an idea. Luther I got one for a dollar and paid between that and $2,000 for others. Our 1983 300CD came with the original window sticker. MSRP $36,158 Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] Pumping oil out of injectors OM617
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The oil drain pipe from the turbo down to the pan isn't only for CA cars. This isn't a drain, it's a tin crankcase vent breather tube from the upper part of the pan, that wraps up around the turbo and up into the bottom of the air cleaner assembly. Mac
[MBZ] Clean Hands and Trim Questions
It's amazing how clean one's hands are when one is done changing the oil in a vergasser. Anywho I have a couple of pieces of trim in the door (the trim in the middle of the door...the anti-door-bash-in-the-parking-lot-by-a-moron-trim) that is becoming loose and it won't pop back in. How is the best way to address this? Just one fastener is loose/unfastened now. Thanks, like minded car pals. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 149K '01 VW Beetle TDI 61K '87 Acura Legend 169K (fresh oil change) Litchfield Park, AZ From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Feb 21 18:32:51 2006 Received: from mail.sophiosoft.com ([207.97.195.46]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FBcJe-0008V3-Vy; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 18:32:51 + Received: from bimbyjono ([72.17.141.247]) by mail.sophiosoft.com (Mail Server) with ASMTP id CPZ38547; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 13:32:48 -0500 From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Banned List' [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 13:32:48 -0500 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: [MBZ] Announcement X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 18:32:51 - As of 02/21/06 BuyMBparts, Inc., will beat ANY price by ANY competitor on the web. It doesn't matter who it is, where they are, we will NOT be undersold. All you have to do is call us at 1-800-741-5252 and let us know who is selling what item and what their price is, we'll do the rest. We ship from multiple (40) warehouses located all over the country and carry the same OE and OEM parts that all the others do. All orders ship same day with free freight over $75.00. We have been selling Mercedes parts since 1976 and know these cars inside and out. Don't get fooled by all these new parts experts on the web, everyone at BuyMBparts is a genuine Mercedes enthusiast. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. 1-800-741-5252 http://www.BuyMBparts.com http://www.buymbparts.com/ Serving the Mercedes Benz enthusiast for over 30 years.
Re: [MBZ] test
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 09:26:53AM -0800, Luther Gulseth wrote: Can I send mail from here? No.
Re: [MBZ] test
No, I don't see a thing. On 2/21/06, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can I send mail from here? ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
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Thanks for your kind thoughts. I can send mail now. ~No, I don't see a thing. ~ ~On 2/21/06, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ~ ~ Can I send mail from here? ~ ~ ~ ~-- ~1977 240D ~1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed ~1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle ~ ~http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (230,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (158,222 kmi) '82 300D (74,000 kmi) alive and needing work '90 300E (parts or run?)
Re: [MBZ] Pumping oil out of injectors OM617
On Tuesday, February 21, 2006, at 12:36 PM, Steve MacSween wrote: Ah, that's a question. On this car it's low if driven hard, when it's left idling in the cold it goes through a LOT. However it's hard to quantify as it's got two significant oil leaks, one out the pan gasket in front and the other is where the breather tube exits out the left side of the pan (bad seal that my wrench is procrastinating wanting to do). IIRC from my old w126, this tube is a CA-emissions-only deal, runs from pan up to the bottom of the air cleaner assembly. All that I have seen have that tube. It drains away oil from the from the crankcase breather. Try to find a rebuild-able set of newer ones if possible. I haven't seen all that many blow that seal out but it obviously happens. Could be that the 2 halves weren't torqued properly on assembly or maybe they vibrate loose. Yeah, from the sounds of them at least two need to be cleaned/rebuilt pretty bad actually. THX Mac Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] Pumping oil out of injectors OM617
On Tuesday, February 21, 2006, at 12:49 PM, Steve MacSween wrote: This isn't a drain, it's a tin crankcase vent breather tube from the upper part of the pan, that wraps up around the turbo and up into the bottom of the air cleaner assembly. Mac Its a drain, there's that tornado-like device in the filter housing that separates liquid from vapor, kind of. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
