Re: [MBZ] Columbus Day CL
I think I may be done with having kids. She is talking grandkids now. That must free me to go scout the University for fresh flesh. Wont that look great? I can cruise in either green car On Oct 8, 2006, at 3:37 PM, Zeitgeist wrote: On 10/7/06, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Going to check her out. Bound to be able to snag this one for around the price of Gump Nice looking car, but probably a nookie-nixer for the Clayster. Go for it...if you dare! Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler #22 (218k) '84 300D (216k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Fuchs wheels on rennlist
Shucks - I assume you;ve tried the Porsche recyclers like 20th Street, and the rest? Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 6:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuchs wheels on rennlist Was browsing the rennlist.com wheel ads and ad# 9728 has wheels like you are looking for incl the 10.6 offset - they are refinished at $1100. The photo shows 2 wheels but the ad does not state the total # for sale. Thank you. I saw that ad and the price is OK. The problem is that they have been polished and I have to have the factory-look anodized finish. Which means one of them would have to be re-restored at a cost of $220 (includes 2-way shipping to L.A.). I can buy a factory new wheel for the same final cost. But, the problem with THAT is that the OE anodize most likely would not be the same as the California anodize. And on and on.. Some people are paying less for entire cars. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/466 - Release Date: 10/7/2006
Re: [MBZ] Cam cover Vent
I just replaced that part on the SDL (603) last weekend. It was plastic, with a foam tube over it. I also replaced the rubber grommet into the cam cover. Mine had broken sometime, and the PO had repaired it by clamping a piece of fuel line across the break. Rusty sent the new parts. The seeping around the grommet should be stopped now. On 10/8/06, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy - on a 91 300D 2.5T there's a hose from the cam cover to the turbo/air intake. The connection out of the cam cover is a elbow that the hose attaches to - is that elbow something like a PVC or is it just an elbow to attach the hose to? The manuals are not very clear -- -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] OT: continuing the British car thread
True! the 4.2 was a swet sounding engine - until you needed to adjust the valves. I alternately called my MGA the poor man's XKE or Vette. On 10/8/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking of British cars with V8's I once looked into buying a Triumph TR8. From what I know they didn't have the overheating problem of the others With its Rover built aluminum engine it was toast if you did let it get to hot. Still, even with those stuffed with V8 power nothing beats the throaty sound of a Jag twin cam 6 Harry -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2006 update
i know everything. ask anybody On 10/8/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary can help you study if you attend. What class is it, anatomy? On 10/8/06, Tarek Elshenawy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I mean its still up in the air, so ill keep you posted. Im pretty sure I have two tests the following Monday, plus I have a meeting at work at 7am... -- Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2006 update
we can have bourbon for if you if it's that important On 10/8/06, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary, With all of this conversation, I wish I could go. Problem is I had to cancel because the Jack Daniels annual invitational BBQ is the same weekend. I humbly request that next year's event be scheduled on a different weekend. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 3:54 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2006 update am i ever anything but nice? On 10/8/06, Tarek Elshenawy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Only if youre nice... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 3:01 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2006 update i know how far it is, jerkoff a-rab. i'm just trying to raz you into showing up as i do enjoy your company On 10/8/06, Tarek Elshenawy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I mean its still up in the air, so ill keep you posted. Im pretty sure I have two tests the following Monday, plus I have a meeting at work at 7am... Im just being reasonable here. And its more like 250mi, although on the Ducati I can probably make it there in two and a half. SN -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 7:07 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2006 update the guy lives like 100 miles away. it's fucking ridiculous On 10/6/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That figures Tarek Elshenawy wrote: Rusty, due to work and school, I won't be able to attend this year. Tell hursty I love him SN -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: continuing the British car thread
That could be a Silver Spur, one of the names I remember on the Rolls. Shadow? Something like that. Looked like it ought to be chauffeur-driven. Very spacious in back. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] OT: continuing the British car thread
One word -- Lucas. On 10/8/06, Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's hard to imagine how the Brits lost their car industry, -- Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish.
Re: [MBZ] Speaking of Davide Frada,
Yes the V8 interceptor overheated too . the only immensely successful car was the lovely Morris Minor. regards mak - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Speaking of Davide Frada, anyone heard anything from him? M.Afzaal.Khan wrote: stunning cars of their time . There was a Triumph Stag too, another beautiful car with a V8 that was always overheating. Forgot that one. How about the Jensen Interceptor, did that overheat too? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/466 - Release Date: 10/7/2006
Re: [MBZ] CDI's sighted
Absolutely. You shouldn't be embarassed even if it was in the condition of mine. Brian 83 240D On 10/8/06, wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'Cruised with 2 320CDI's in Raleigh yesterday. I was not embarrassed at all by my 20 yr-old showroom-like 300D. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] finally, my own SDL
You are welcome. Luther Gulseth wrote: arrived today. Thanks Kaleb. I'm off to the golf course. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] finally, my own SDL
I didn't think you were old enough for an SDL. You do know it is an old man's car don't you? kinda like the Burgundy 80 something to early 90s buicks, only with a LOT more class and durability At 03:17 PM 10/8/2006, you wrote: arrived today. Thanks Kaleb. I'm off to the golf course. -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '87 300SDL (270,491 mi) head case? '83 300SD (241 kmi) '82 300CD (162 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR engine work ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] OT: continuing the British car thread
I think the Silver Shadow was from the early 70's into the 80's and it was followed by the Silver Spur. Last time I ever saw one of those was in the parking lot of a hospital... in a doctors parking spot of course. Harry 69 280 SEL 135,000 Miles 72 350SL 118,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sun, 8 Oct 2006 7:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: continuing the British car thread That could be a Silver Spur, one of the names I remember on the Rolls. Shadow? Something like that. Looked like it ought to be chauffeur-driven. Very spacious in back. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection.
[MBZ] 560sel quick tips 103 service ?
Excellent, any other items to check in a 103 engine/ 126 ? I would like to go over most replacement items due to age related wear. Ever so dependable; yesterday the 300se stalled twice in a row on the overrun before coming to a stop. Restarted after churning' the starter. I left it till mornig and had a perfect start smooth idling . what was wrong, still baffled! As a preventative measure I have simply cleaned the throttle plate and the ICV. mak - Original Message - From: Trampas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 5:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 560sel quick tips? The 560SEL is a great car. The timing chain and valve guide seals should be replaced, I usually do both at the same time. Also replace timing chain guides when doing timing chain regardless of what they look like. The second timing chain will need to be replaced around 100-120k miles. I personally think they wear quicker than OEM. The hydraulic suspension sometimes gives problems. The most common is a leaking line that runs from front of car to rear. Other than that the car is a W126 gasser and has the same problems as most. Specifically you will need to check alternator brushes every 50k miles. Around 170k you might want to replace water pump. Around 120k you will want to replace guide rod bushings/bearings, tie rod ends, idler arm, shocks, and lower ball joints. Also the sway bar links in rear need replaced about every 100k when you start hearing clicking in rear. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 7:24 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 560sel quick tips? Thats the 4.2 that has that problem Frank Pembleton wrote: I seem to remember that on these engines one camshaft wears more quickly than the other. Don't a$k me how I know. But that was on an M117.986. The 560SEL should have an M117.968! _ Frank Pembleton Manchester, MO KLEB FOR PREZ!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve MacSween Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 10:34 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] 560sel quick tips? Seeing as it does appear that my SD's motor has expired, and seeing as I need a vehicle on a daily basis, I may end up buying another car quick. I have a line on an 89? 560sel, cosmetically wonderful (of course) but unfortunately it has been sitting for about two years and started only infrequently during that time. The guy selling it (agent for the PO, a wealthy local resort owner) admits the valve seals are bad and it smokes when cold. Beyond that it's the usual Sgt. Shultz routine. In all my years on the lists I've been a diesel guy so I pretty much ignored V8 talk. I DO know to check if the chains have been done, and the state of the exhaust and cats, and other obvious stuff for a parked car like the waterpump, belts, alternator, stuff that may have accelerated decrepitude from sitting. Another other points? It's a kicking good deal BUT we all know the way that goes -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/466 - Release Date: 10/7/2006
Re: [MBZ] OT: continuing the British car thread
Not only the valves, but those triple webers were a b*tch to sync. I only knew one guy who could do it and he did it all by feel Harry 69 280 SEL 135,000 Miles 72 350SL 118,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sun, 8 Oct 2006 6:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: continuing the British car thread True! the 4.2 was a swet sounding engine - until you needed to adjust the valves. I alternately called my MGA the poor man's XKE or Vette. On 10/8/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking of British cars with V8's I once looked into buying a Triumph TR8. From what I know they didn't have the overheating problem of the others With its Rover built aluminum engine it was toast if you did let it get to hot. Still, even with those stuffed with V8 power nothing beats the throaty sound of a Jag twin cam 6 Harry -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection.
Re: [MBZ] Interceptor
Wasn't the Jensen Interceptor the one with the 440 cid Chrysler engine? I have a 1979 RT buyers guide that shows that one with a 440 cid, not a hemi.. unless the earlier one came with the hemi Harry 69 280 SEL 135,000 Miles 72 350SL 118,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sun, 8 Oct 2006 5:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Interceptor Forgot that one. How about the Jensen Interceptor, did that overheat too? Doubt it. All it's Chrysler Hemi and Torqueflite needed was a decent radiator. Best part about the car. I knew a guy in PCA who owned an Interceptor coupe about 25 years ago and I saw him driving the thing recently and it looked just the same. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection.
Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2006 update
It's more like the family spends the day in the area, plus my Wife is likely to fly in from Wisconsin to suprise me. I can buy Jack-Daniels anywhere, even in as far away a place as Atlanta. ;} Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com Quoting Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]: we can have bourbon for if you if it's that important On 10/8/06, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary, With all of this conversation, I wish I could go. Problem is I had to cancel because the Jack Daniels annual invitational BBQ is the same weekend. I humbly request that next year's event be scheduled on a different weekend. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 3:54 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2006 update am i ever anything but nice? On 10/8/06, Tarek Elshenawy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Only if youre nice... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 3:01 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2006 update i know how far it is, jerkoff a-rab. i'm just trying to raz you into showing up as i do enjoy your company On 10/8/06, Tarek Elshenawy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I mean its still up in the air, so ill keep you posted. Im pretty sure I have two tests the following Monday, plus I have a meeting at work at 7am... Im just being reasonable here. And its more like 250mi, although on the Ducati I can probably make it there in two and a half. SN -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 7:07 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2006 update the guy lives like 100 miles away. it's fucking ridiculous On 10/6/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That figures Tarek Elshenawy wrote: Rusty, due to work and school, I won't be able to attend this year. Tell hursty I love him SN -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
[MBZ] ANTIFREEZE TEST for ALUMINUM RADIATORS
Hi;I have an 88 ford ranger with 219,000 miles, had temp gauge reading problem, after changing a bunch of parts, pulled rad. removed both ends; PERFECT BRAND NEW LOOKING INSIDE; i have always used theCHEAPEST antifreeze( i read somewhere that ALL antifreeze must meet a min. spec. for the state??,maybe federal? ) that is when i started using CHEAP STUFF); also 10 year use of CHEAP stuff in my 79 M.B. 240D; no problems ever with cooling or heating Steve
Re: [MBZ] Maurice manure
the only immensely successful car was the lovely Morris Minor Seen in Open All Hours. RLE
[MBZ] OIL QUALITY TEST
HI; 71 Ford LTD ; Mobil oil, NOT M1 no oil using or burning, about 120K mi 81 Ford LTD ; about 100K mi. 88 FORD Ranger ; 219K mi. very little or no oil usage ford oil then CHEAPEST ?-MART oil 79 M.B. 240D ; Mystic 15-50 oil, cheap little or no oil usage still breaking in??? 85 M.B. 300D Calif. model, with supposedly rebuilt engine(bought on E-Bay) 280K mi. Mystic cheap oil 15-50 ; very little or NO usage 83 M.B. 300D came with Rotella 15-40; changed a few times; probably changeling to Mystic 15-50 as it is cheaper ESPECIALLY BY THE 5 gal. pail; might stick with 15-40 rotella for winter??? or mystic 15-40??? I change my oil filter every 500-3000 miles, or sooner if i feel like doing something; at these change rates I can't see spending $60-$70 for M1 Good thing i know how to work on these diesels rebuild, as using CHEAP oil; SOMEDAY???, I might have to work on them Steve
[MBZ] Repairing cruise controls
Tried repairing my cruise control, re soldering, now it won't even start to do anything; maybe JIM can respond?; i have repaired, re soldered climate controls, Ok, Tach. amplifiers (TRANSDUCERS, according to trained M.B. mech) and a couple of SURFACE mount devices Steve
[MBZ] REPLACING or WORKING on CENTER VENT of 123 cars
M.B. mech. could not believe i replaced center vac. element or repaired missing connector on center flap; WITHOUT removing the dash!; yes i can do it have done about 4 times Steve
[MBZ] MECHANICS LABOR PARTS MARKUP?
Trained M.B. mech, INDY. $60 per hour + his parts were marked up 100% to 300%; maybe his world pac? co. is charging him too much or maybe i am just lucky finding CHEAPER prices? don't know; they usually say cheap parts, NOT as good Quality; LOOKING AT parts they are the SAME brand! ones I've seen; OH well, if i didn't have a small bit of mech. knowledge, i would have to find another Hobby anyone know of this WORLD PAC co. that you must HAVE A RESALE # TO GET PRICES OR PARTS?? and are THEY that much cheaper? maybe i could get resale # start a new business selling M.B. parts, as NO restrictions where i live out in my county Steve
[MBZ] RECHARGING AIR CONDITIONING ON 300D
Although getting cooler; i have recharge a completely low A/C unit for about $38 or less, if no parts are needed; using Freeze 12, last can was $6.59 ea.; anyone know of supplier that is cheaper than this?; thanks in advance for everyones help; hope I can help others also with my small bit of knowledge Steve
[MBZ] JOINED MBCA
Hi; just joined Mercedes Benz Club of America; maybe meet some of you at the Dinners that they have to give get info. help from to others; hope to get my credentials before next Dinner!! ha!ha! Steve
Re: [MBZ] REPLACING or WORKING on CENTER VENT of 123 cars
And you have a write up somewhere? Since this task is on my to do list On 8-Oct-06, at 11:30 PM, Stephen D Murrell wrote: M.B. mech. could not believe i replaced center vac. element or repaired missing connector on center flap; WITHOUT removing the dash!; yes i can do it have done about 4 times Steve ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com John 1983 300TDt 371k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990's 300TDt 177k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 182k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
Re: [MBZ] JOINED MBCA
eh, i joined mbca once and they called the FBI on me for suggesting that the power of the club belongs to the members and not to unelected contractors and their henchman. I'd keep my distance from these freaks if I were you. On 10/9/06, Stephen D Murrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi; just joined Mercedes Benz Club of America; maybe meet some of you at the Dinners that they have to give get info. help from to others; hope to get my credentials before next Dinner!! ha!ha! Steve ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: continuing the British car thread
Harry wrote:a total nightmare to work on I remember when I 1st heard that Rolls welds the head to the block - I knew tight then a Rolls was not for me. Course, if something went wrong I could always pull the Rolls engine and drop in a LT1 or something. ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 6:13 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: continuing the British car thread That could be a Silver Spur, one of the names I remember on the Rolls. Nice car, but a total nightmare to work on too. I'd be thinking sure, I'll bid on that.. only as long as the bidding starts at a $1 ;) Harry 69 280 SEL 135,000 Miles 72 350SL 118,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sun, 8 Oct 2006 4:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: continuing the British car thread Speaking of British cars with V8's I once looked into buying a Triumph TR8. Coupla years ago I stopped by a local used car lot to peek at the Rolls silver something-or-other. Was cool looking, but no doubt a nightmare in the running department. Also in some serious need of refinishing of the woodwork. There was a potential buyer ready to take it on a test drive, so I didn't get much of a chance to look it over. They seemed to think they had an incipient bidding war on their hands. Ha! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/466 - Release Date: 10/7/2006
Re: [MBZ] ANTIFREEZE TEST for ALUMINUM RADIATORS
I believe the problem with using non-MB antifreeze in MB engines is it attacks the alum head components. Did you ever solve the temp gauge problems in the Ford? Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Stephen D Murrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 2:01 AM Subject: [MBZ] ANTIFREEZE TEST for ALUMINUM RADIATORS Hi;I have an 88 ford ranger with 219,000 miles, had temp gauge reading problem, after changing a bunch of parts, pulled rad. removed both ends; PERFECT BRAND NEW LOOKING INSIDE; i have always used theCHEAPEST antifreeze( i read somewhere that ALL antifreeze must meet a min. spec. for the state??,maybe federal? ) that is when i started using CHEAP STUFF); also 10 year use of CHEAP stuff in my 79 M.B. 240D; no problems ever with cooling or heating Steve ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/466 - Release Date: 10/7/2006
[MBZ] OIL QUALITY TEST
* I got fed up with Mobile-1, can't seem to find their proper diesel oil, once they changed the name, seems NOONE is carrying it. I just decided to go back to Delo-400, I can get that at Costco at a good price and will go back to my 3000 mile changes. I'm sure Mobile isn't going broke by loosing me, but at least I don't have to waste my time and fuel just to fine their product. Walt Lasher Seattle 1992 S350/300SD
Re: [MBZ] OT: continuing the British car thread
I didn't have much trouble with the triple SU's - and I did finish tuning them by hand/ear - it was the 8 hours flat rate to set the valves that always got me! Maybe steel doesn't wear in England. On 10/9/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not only the valves, but those triple webers were a b*tch to sync. I only knew one guy who could do it and he did it all by feel Harry -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] RECHARGING AIR CONDITIONING ON 300D
Although getting cooler; i have recharge a completely low A/C unit for about $38 or less, if no parts are needed; using Freeze 12, last can was $6.59 ea.; anyone know of supplier that is cheaper than this?; Sportsman's Warehouse? http://cathey.dogear.com/cwair.html -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Repairing cruise controls
Tried repairing my cruise control, re soldering, now it won't even start to do anything; maybe JIM can respond?; i have repaired, re soldered Well, I'd say you didn't do it right then. (As the symptoms tend to speak for themselves. If it works _worse_ after you've gotten done with it...) It happens. You'll just need to do it again. You _did_ use paint stripper on it first, right? Very important, IMHO. The varnish coating contaminates your attempts to resolder the joints otherwise. I think the first one I repaired required several attempts before I made it better rather than worse. The last several have been successes on the first shot, I guess practice helps. climate controls, Ok, Tach. amplifiers (TRANSDUCERS, according to trained They can call it a transducer, but that doesn't make it one. The thing in the can is an amplifier for the transducer that is mounted on the front (or back) of the engine. (Formally, a transducer changes one form of energy to another. The canned doodad takes a weak electrical signal from the variable reluctance sensor [transducer] and boosts it to a signal that resembles what comes out of a set of points, which can then be fed to a conventional tachometer circuit.) -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] finally, my own SDL
I dont think Zippy will be able to figure out them new fangled diesel engines. Loren Faeth wrote: I didn't think you were old enough for an SDL. You do know it is an old man's car don't you? kinda like the Burgundy 80 something to early 90s buicks, only with a LOT more class and durability -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] ANTIFREEZE TEST for ALUMINUM RADIATORS
Thats fine as long as you change it every 2 years. Stephen D Murrell wrote: Hi;I have an 88 ford ranger with 219,000 miles, had temp gauge reading problem, after changing a bunch of parts, pulled rad. removed both ends; PERFECT BRAND NEW LOOKING INSIDE; i have always used theCHEAPEST antifreeze( i read somewhere that ALL antifreeze must meet a min. spec. for the state??,maybe federal? ) that is when i started using CHEAP STUFF); also 10 year use of CHEAP stuff in my 79 M.B. 240D; no problems ever with cooling or heating Steve ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OIL QUALITY TEST
There is a button on the lower left of your keyboard that says Caps Lock Press it once. --R
Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2006 update
You think that the folks at Jack Daniels will listen to your request Tom? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Hargrave Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 5:14 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2006 update Gary, With all of this conversation, I wish I could go. Problem is I had to cancel because the Jack Daniels annual invitational BBQ is the same weekend. I humbly request that next year's event be scheduled on a different weekend. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 3:54 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2006 update am i ever anything but nice? On 10/8/06, Tarek Elshenawy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Only if youre nice... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 3:01 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2006 update i know how far it is, jerkoff a-rab. i'm just trying to raz you into showing up as i do enjoy your company On 10/8/06, Tarek Elshenawy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I mean its still up in the air, so ill keep you posted. Im pretty sure I have two tests the following Monday, plus I have a meeting at work at 7am... Im just being reasonable here. And its more like 250mi, although on the Ducati I can probably make it there in two and a half. SN -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 7:07 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2006 update the guy lives like 100 miles away. it's fucking ridiculous On 10/6/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That figures Tarek Elshenawy wrote: Rusty, due to work and school, I won't be able to attend this year. Tell hursty I love him SN -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] finally, my own SDL
I am old enough to know that the 126 is probably the best long distance road car ever made. Add a good 603 to that and you have a powerful car that get's descent fuel economy. I plan to install my hitch to this car and find a wrecked/parts 560 and swap the SLS for my SDL. That'll make it a great long distance road trip car, and I can haul my own cheap fuel -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (236 kmi) '82 300CD (160 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR work Quoting Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I didn't think you were old enough for an SDL. You do know it is an old man's car don't you? kinda like the Burgundy 80 something to early 90s buicks, only with a LOT more class and durability
Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2006 update
Probably not. LOL Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rusty Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 10:24 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2006 update You think that the folks at Jack Daniels will listen to your request Tom? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Hargrave Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 5:14 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2006 update Gary, With all of this conversation, I wish I could go. Problem is I had to cancel because the Jack Daniels annual invitational BBQ is the same weekend. I humbly request that next year's event be scheduled on a different weekend. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 3:54 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2006 update am i ever anything but nice? On 10/8/06, Tarek Elshenawy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Only if youre nice... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 3:01 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2006 update i know how far it is, jerkoff a-rab. i'm just trying to raz you into showing up as i do enjoy your company On 10/8/06, Tarek Elshenawy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I mean its still up in the air, so ill keep you posted. Im pretty sure I have two tests the following Monday, plus I have a meeting at work at 7am... Im just being reasonable here. And its more like 250mi, although on the Ducati I can probably make it there in two and a half. SN -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 7:07 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2006 update the guy lives like 100 miles away. it's fucking ridiculous On 10/6/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That figures Tarek Elshenawy wrote: Rusty, due to work and school, I won't be able to attend this year. Tell hursty I love him SN -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] finally, my own SDL
What fuel economy are you talking? I believe the 603 will out perform the 617 in fuel economy. Plus, this car has the added benefit of more leg room for the rear seat AND the reclining rear seat for extra passenger comfort. -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (236 kmi) '82 300CD (160 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR work Quoting Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think I'd personally prefer ascent fuel economy, but to each their own... On 10/9/06, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am old enough to know that the 126 is probably the best long distance road car ever made. Add a good 603 to that and you have a powerful car that get's descent fuel economy.
Re: [MBZ] finally, my own SDL
on 10/9/06 12:09 PM, Luther at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What fuel economy are you talking? I believe the 603 will out perform the 617 in fuel economy. Plus, this car has the added benefit of more leg room for the rear seat AND the reclining rear seat for extra passenger comfort. Uh, he was violating one of the rules of Netiquette, namely making fun of someone else's spelling error (you typed descent instead of decent). Happy for ya on the new ride. Mac
Re: [MBZ] finally, my own SDL
In general I prefer ascending fuel economy, rather than descending...it's a play on words. On 10/9/06, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What fuel economy are you talking? I believe the 603 will out perform the 617 in fuel economy. Plus, this car has the added benefit of more leg room for the rear seat AND the reclining rear seat for extra passenger comfort. -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (236 kmi) '82 300CD (160 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR work Quoting Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think I'd personally prefer ascent fuel economy, but to each their own... On 10/9/06, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am old enough to know that the 126 is probably the best long distance road car ever made. Add a good 603 to that and you have a powerful car that get's descent fuel economy. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler #22 (218k) '84 300D (216k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
Re: [MBZ] finally, my own SDL
Ugh. -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (236 kmi) '82 300CD (160 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR work Quoting Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In general I prefer ascending fuel economy, rather than descending...it's a play on words.
Re: [MBZ] finally, my own SDL
Aye, Skipper! I was just ribbing you a lil, The 126 Is the best road (trekking) car ever made, with the possible exception of the 6.9 and the 600. Welcome to the SDL club. They are awesome automobiles, whether is descent or ascent, or level flight attitude. As for hauling fuel, btdt. In 1973 i got some cheap fuel oil, so I put 2 30 gallon barrels in the trunk of my 200D, with still enough room for baggage. I filled the barrels and the tank with cheap #2 and took of for 2 weeks in DC. it was great, but i had to buy a little fuel on the way back. Unfortunately, I never was able to get any more cheap #2, so the extra 2 tanks were removed. The 2 extra tanks gave me about a 2500 mile range. 1000 out, 100 driving around there, and 5-700 miles toward the return trip. Has your new ship been assigned an NCC number yet? Kleb has the Enterprise, so I assume that is NCC 1701 Loren SDLx2 At 10:43 AM 10/9/2006, you wrote: I am old enough to know that the 126 is probably the best long distance road car ever made. Add a good 603 to that and you have a powerful car that get's descent fuel economy. I plan to install my hitch to this car and find a wrecked/parts 560 and swap the SLS for my SDL. That'll make it a great long distance road trip car, and I can haul my own cheap fuel -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (236 kmi) '82 300CD (160 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR work Quoting Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I didn't think you were old enough for an SDL. You do know it is an old man's car don't you? kinda like the Burgundy 80 something to early 90s buicks, only with a LOT more class and durability ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] JOINED MBCA
Gary, I joined MBCA in 1989 and have stuck with the club in various sections in various positions.. I am a candidate for a Director at Large position in this year's election. Results will be known next Tuesday/Wednesday. I do agree with you about the state of the club in years past. It has improved greatly in the last four years and will continue to do so. There was a recent RFP distributed to evaluate/select a new editor for the Star Magazine. The current editor will produce the last issue in Jan/Feb 2007. A NEW editor will take over with the March/April issue. Entirely new organization, not related to the future former editor. The club will regain editorial oversight. During my tenure, if elected, I will make sure the club belongs to the members and let their voices be heard. I hope to influence a strong growth in membership.Anyone else interested in joining, please email me offline. Just came back from StarFest 2006 in Las Vegas. Over two hundred members/spouses/friends attended where a concours and driving events (Time Trials, Autocross, Acceleration Run) left a lot of smiles on lots of faces. I was one smiling also with two firsts and one second in the driving events in the 500E, Big Bro'. Not to bore all the non-members but as info.. The fall MBCA Board Meeting will be held in Phoenix, November 9-11... Anyone who wants info, send me an email offline... That's all.. Take care and be safe, Chuck Phoenix AZ On Oct 9, 2006, at 4:44 AM, Gary Hurst wrote: eh, i joined mbca once and they called the FBI on me for suggesting that the power of the club belongs to the members and not to unelected contractors and their henchman. I'd keep my distance from these freaks if I were you. On 10/9/06, Stephen D Murrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi; just joined Mercedes Benz Club of America; maybe meet some of you at the Dinners that they have to give get info. help from to others; hope to get my credentials before next Dinner!! ha!ha! Steve ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] finally, my own SDL
Loren F. wrote: I didn't think you were old enough for an SDL. You do know it is an old man's car don't you? kinda like the Burgundy 80 something to early 90s buicks, only with a LOT more class and durability Well, I am only 33 and not only would I love an SDL (I have an SEL), but I also used to drive 80-90's buicks and two of them were burgundy. Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify me.
[MBZ] Ahhh, those clever Europeans!
From the Times of London driving section: Used Cars Times OnlineAugust 28, 2005 Mercedes-Benz E270 CDI By Jason Dawe of The Sunday Times In July 2002, having waited six months for the new Mercedes- Benz E-class to hit the showrooms, I borrowed one. After driving several hundred miles I was left with one overwhelming emotion: disappointment. I loved the sleek lines and the clever technology; the huge boot swallowed the largest load. But none of this could hide the car’s Achilles heel: its engine. The 177bhp V6 petrol engine fitted to the E240 sounded harsh when pushed, performance felt moderate and after 800 miles it had averaged only 21mpg. But my reaction was out of step; almost universally the car was heaped with praise. And it was 18 months before my opinion was to change. * This time I drove an E270 diesel. It was blessed with virtually identical power to the petrol car on paper but in reality the leap in torque produced a smooth wall of power that made the car genuinely fun to drive, and it also averaged close to 40mpg. At last I understood what everyone had been saying: this was quite possibly the best executive car money could buy. I also tried the more modestly priced E220 diesel with 150bhp. It still felt good, and the 3.2 litre E320 diesel with 204bhp was a real hoot. With these cars Mercedes proved that not only had diesel engine technology caught up with the petrol equivalents but actually eclipsed them. In fact only one petrol version is comparable with the diesel. The E500 boasts a 5 litre V8 that kicks out 306bhp and while economy is not its forte you get huge performance — 0-62mph in 5.8sec and a top speed limited at 155mph. A used example will cost about £25,000 and makes an excellent buy. Both the E200 and E320 petrol engines, boasting 163bhp and 224bhp respectively and introduced in 2003, are best avoided. Once you’ve chosen your engine you have to decide on the trim level. The entry-level Classic is far from basic with climate control, alloys, leather steering wheel, electric windows and auto dimming rear mirror as standard. It has front, side and head airbags, antilock brakes and traction control. The car scored five stars in the Euro NCAP crash tests. Commanding a premium of about £1,500 on a used example is the Elegance model which adds walnut wood veneer, automatic rain-sensing wipers, power headlamp washers and electrically folding door mirrors. For about £750 more the used Avantgarde adds flashier alloy wheels, sports suspension, bi-xenon lights, blue tinted glass and a dark wood interior. Whichever you plump for it’s best to choose an automatic box. They fetch a premium of about £1,250 over the six-speed manuals but you’ll enjoy near-identical performance, equivalent economy and easier resale. On the move the car feels smooth, quiet and well planted on the road, the clever electronics intervening when the car reaches its limit. Leather upholstery and sat nav are desirable options and add about £500 apiece to used values, but multicontour seats that massage your back and Airmatic suspension do little to enhance value. Whichever E-class you choose it’s a pretty safe bet that you will be buying a great car. Just make sure it’s diesel. Jeff Zedic Toronto
Re: [MBZ] JOINED MBCA
my one year in MBCA was during the george murphy/bob beltz/frank barrett era. watching those guys operate has convinced me that this is not a club i ever need to be part of. it's possible it was just a bad time and atypical, but i can't feel comfortable signing up again. On 10/9/06, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary, I joined MBCA in 1989 and have stuck with the club in various sections in various positions.. I am a candidate for a Director at Large position in this year's election. Results will be known next Tuesday/Wednesday. I do agree with you about the state of the club in years past. It has improved greatly in the last four years and will continue to do so. There was a recent RFP distributed to evaluate/select a new editor for the Star Magazine. The current editor will produce the last issue in Jan/Feb 2007. A NEW editor will take over with the March/April issue. Entirely new organization, not related to the future former editor. The club will regain editorial oversight. During my tenure, if elected, I will make sure the club belongs to the members and let their voices be heard. I hope to influence a strong growth in membership.Anyone else interested in joining, please email me offline. Just came back from StarFest 2006 in Las Vegas. Over two hundred members/spouses/friends attended where a concours and driving events (Time Trials, Autocross, Acceleration Run) left a lot of smiles on lots of faces. I was one smiling also with two firsts and one second in the driving events in the 500E, Big Bro'. Not to bore all the non-members but as info.. The fall MBCA Board Meeting will be held in Phoenix, November 9-11... Anyone who wants info, send me an email offline... That's all.. Take care and be safe, Chuck Phoenix AZ On Oct 9, 2006, at 4:44 AM, Gary Hurst wrote: eh, i joined mbca once and they called the FBI on me for suggesting that the power of the club belongs to the members and not to unelected contractors and their henchman. I'd keep my distance from these freaks if I were you. On 10/9/06, Stephen D Murrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi; just joined Mercedes Benz Club of America; maybe meet some of you at the Dinners that they have to give get info. help from to others; hope to get my credentials before next Dinner!! ha!ha! Steve ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MECHANICS LABOR PARTS MARKUP?
Stephen D Murrell wrote: anyone know of this WORLD PAC co. that you must HAVE A RESALE # TO GET PRICES OR PARTS?? and are THEY that much cheaper? I'm sure they are much cheaper from Rusty than from your local indy. Even if you can get a dealer account, probably not worth the hassle over calling Rusty, Hursty or Tommie on the toll free line and ordering. http://www.buymbparts.com
Re: [MBZ] JOINED MBCA
Larry, Answers follow... What section are you in?? If I go thru your neck of the woods, will definitely let you know. Even if I'm not elected, next May I'll be driving to the DC area for StarTech in May from Phoenix... Take care, Chuck Phoenix On Oct 9, 2006, at 1:16 PM, LarryT wrote: Hi Chuck, Glad to hear the F Barrett era is ending. A couple of questions. Will the club continue to pay for the mailing costs or will the new publisher do so? I am not familiar with the terms of the new contract, but have been assured that it will be a positive cash flow to the club. Also, will the club keep the advertising revenue instead of the publisher as in years past? Yes. Basic answer and I'm not aware of the details since I'm still just a vanilla member despite being a candidate for DAL... I would hope that in the future the financial statements in the Star Magazine will be a good deal more definitive These funds would help the club dramatically and allow the central office to help the sections fund special events like social competitive drives, dinners, meets, concours, etc. all of which the rank and file greatly enjoy IMHO. Given a positive cash impact of the revenue from the Star, I want to see some of the Raffle profit directed to Section support. Also, it'd be nice to see The Star as a monthly or perhaps 8 X's per year instead of every other month. For the forseeable future, the Star will remain 6x a year. But, it is a goal of mine and I believe many others to get to a monthly magazine. For many members, The Star is the biggest connection to the club and more issues would provide a more cohesive feeling - And last, but not least, the membership needs to grow through a coordinated effort of all members, dealers, indys and wider publication of why it's a good idea to join MBCA! Thanks for being handy to answer questions - MBCA Member Again. ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] JOINED MBCA Gary, I joined MBCA in 1989 and have stuck with the club in various sections in various positions.. I am a candidate for a Director at Large position in this year's election. Results will be known next Tuesday/Wednesday. I do agree with you about the state of the club in years past. It has improved greatly in the last four years and will continue to do so. There was a recent RFP distributed to evaluate/select a new editor for the Star Magazine. The current editor will produce the last issue in Jan/Feb 2007. A NEW editor will take over with the March/April issue. Entirely new organization, not related to the future former editor. The club will regain editorial oversight. During my tenure, if elected, I will make sure the club belongs to the members and let their voices be heard. I hope to influence a strong growth in membership.Anyone else interested in joining, please email me offline. Just came back from StarFest 2006 in Las Vegas. Over two hundred members/spouses/friends attended where a concours and driving events (Time Trials, Autocross, Acceleration Run) left a lot of smiles on lots of faces. I was one smiling also with two firsts and one second in the driving events in the 500E, Big Bro'. Not to bore all the non-members but as info.. The fall MBCA Board Meeting will be held in Phoenix, November 9-11... Anyone who wants info, send me an email offline... That's all.. Take care and be safe, Chuck Phoenix AZ On Oct 9, 2006, at 4:44 AM, Gary Hurst wrote: eh, i joined mbca once and they called the FBI on me for suggesting that the power of the club belongs to the members and not to unelected contractors and their henchman. I'd keep my distance from these freaks if I were you. On 10/9/06, Stephen D Murrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi; just joined Mercedes Benz Club of America; maybe meet some of you at the Dinners that they have to give get info. help from to others; hope to get my credentials before next Dinner!! ha!ha! Steve ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] OT: continuing the British car thread
Not a bad idea considering they already use a GM's hydramatic Harry 69 280 SEL 135,000 Miles 72 350SL 118,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 6:59 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: continuing the British car thread Harry wrote:a total nightmare to work on I remember when I 1st heard that Rolls welds the head to the block - I knew tight then a Rolls was not for me. Course, if something went wrong I could always pull the Rolls engine and drop in a LT1 or something. ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 6:13 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: continuing the British car thread That could be a Silver Spur, one of the names I remember on the Rolls. Nice car, but a total nightmare to work on too. I'd be thinking sure, I'll bid on that.. only as long as the bidding starts at a $1 ;) Harry 69 280 SEL 135,000 Miles 72 350SL 118,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sun, 8 Oct 2006 4:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: continuing the British car thread Speaking of British cars with V8's I once looked into buying a Triumph TR8. Coupla years ago I stopped by a local used car lot to peek at the Rolls silver something-or-other. Was cool looking, but no doubt a nightmare in the running department. Also in some serious need of refinishing of the woodwork. There was a potential buyer ready to take it on a test drive, so I didn't get much of a chance to look it over. They seemed to think they had an incipient bidding war on their hands. Ha! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/466 - Release Date: 10/7/2006 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection.
[MBZ] Vickers VT27 Steering pump
Hi all, Looks like I resolved my Zenith 32/40 carb problems, I think. Well I fired her up on Sunday, and moved her, part of the problem with the carbs, and when I shut her down There was a spray from the steering pump reservoir top. When I opened it, the fluid was pink from all the air bubbles. Then I found the puddle under the pump :( Ok, so I found the seal kit and the manuals on the CD. On job 47-720 it has a few specialized tools. I only see the sealing ring puller being used. First question is can I rent a generic tool set from my local parts shop to do this job? how difficult is it to replace the seals? Any tips or tricks before I dive into this project? Thanks in advance. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Oct 09 22:17:31 2006 Received: from mail2.mx.voyager.net ([216.93.66.206]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GX3RD-000517-Dt for Mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 09 Oct 2006 22:17:31 + Received: from voyager.net (d58.as0.sfld1.mi.core.com [209.153.142.187]) by mail2.mx.voyager.net (8.13.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id k99MHTLC024645 for Mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 9 Oct 2006 18:17:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2006 18:17:29 -0400 From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mercedes list Mercedes@okiebenz.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: [MBZ] 88 190E 2.6 auto $500 X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2006 22:17:32 - Seen in a front yard near me. (Eaton Rapids, MI 48827) 175k on the clock, big dent in driver's door, but opens and closes. Decent dark blue interior, silver-blue exterior. Cracked windshield, fog lights, missing hood star and grill center. Grill frame seems OK. Something strange mounted under the instrument panel, I should have photographed it. I have a silver '87 W201 parts car, could supply a wrong color door and grill insert, but my hood star was vandalized and my windshield is worse than the one on this car. If you want the car and will pick it up before Halloween, I would be willing to buy it and drive it to my house (if it's driveable, I'm not going to trailer it for you). 517-663-4073 is the phone number in the window. Can email the few pics I took of it, but don't think I should clutter the list with them. Mitch.
