Re: [MBZ] Attn: all gullibles

2007-03-23 Thread Hendrik Riessen
I think this may be a bit of an urban myth, if it was true it would have 
made the nerws a bit more, rather than on a Kiwi gossip site. But keep 
dreaming Rodger, one day you may find the fabled annoyed wife who wants to 
get even with her cheating hubby.


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Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freighter

2007-03-23 Thread Rich Thomas
Oil it up, bake it in the oven at fairly high temp, repeat a few times.  
Do not use soap except for the first time (too late), use salt to clean 
stuck stuff off, water to rinse, little oil before putting it away.  Do 
not clean off your seasoning.


--R (using grannie's cast iron skillets, which I think she was given 
when she got married in the 1920s, by her mother, who might have got 
them when she was married in the late 1800s -- well-seasoned)


Curt Raymond wrote:

Seems like each has its own little niche. Homier seems to have more small hand 
tools. I got a bunch of multibit screwdrivers at one of their shows once, $0.19 
apeiece.
Smelled like old tires, worked pretty good though.
Cummins is where I got my woodsplitters which have been awesome. My new cell 
phone holder is decent too. Made a soup Sunday night in the dutch oven, it 
tasted wierd, probably the waxy preservative they used although my wife thinks 
it was from the olive oil I used to season it.
I'm still alive so its probably not poison... Used it to cook taco meat last 
night which worked out fine.
Interestingly cooking taco meat seems to be the fastest way to season cast 
iron. After dinner boiled some water in it and mopped it out with paper towels 
and dammed if it hasn't improved 50%.

-Curt
  
  





Re: [MBZ] OT - Sunrise in the east

2007-03-23 Thread OK Don

I did about that same thing, but substituted a compass for the binocs.

On 3/22/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Back when I flew - in the 70s - I used to fly IFR (I Follow Roads) - a road
map, altimeter and binoculars.  And a watch was handy -
;-)

Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)


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Norman, OK
Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just
sit there.
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Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D - is it worth it?

2007-03-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

quite drivable

Gary Hurst wrote:

i don't know how driveable a 240D is on modern roads.




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 (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL,
 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freighter

2007-03-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
did they have the CIS injection tester in stock?  I was thinking that 
was an online only deal.  Whats the item number?


Jim Cathey wrote:

Did I mention that I now work across the street from the
store?  I _walked_ over and bought an armload of crap, and
then walked to KFC and had lunch.  The long-term potential
harm of this store's location cannot be underemphasized!

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D - is it worth it?

2007-03-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

I got a super nice 300SDL I might trade you for.

Sunil Hari wrote:

I'd trade my 300D for a 300SDL in a heartbeat - that and a stick 240D are
the two practical cars I lust for

On 3/22/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Trade for a 300SDL?

Original Message
From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03/21/07 10:32 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D - is it worth it?
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Tell you what - I'll trade my '81 240D, manual tranny, manual windows,
manual sunroof, manual heater and AC, for your 300D. Light Yellow with
tan MB Tex. It's been in our family for four generations - since we're
all Donald A. Norris, I say it's a one owner car. Approx. 150K miles.

On 3/21/07, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

My mechanic here has a 1982 240D with 220Kmi on the chassis, 150Kmi on

the

engine that he just put in, manual tranny, body has no rust on it. He

says

it's ready to roll with no mechanical issues.  Burgundy with tan Tex
interior.

Ceteris paribus, is it worth the $3000 he wants for it?  I know that

value

is a highly subjective term to the listers, but please give me your

honest

opinion.

More importantly, is it worth selling my current 300D (124) in order

to buy

the 240D?  I know, my current ride is a better car, but I really

like the

manual transmission in the benzes ...

--
Sunil Hari

--
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just
sit there.
Will Rogers
'90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager

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 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] a Hell of a nice car

2007-03-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

right

Donald Snook wrote:

WOW! That is a nice car.  That would be a great car with the MB long
block in it.   I wonder how much that will go for?  I wonder even more
if I could buy it and just swap it out for my car so my wife wouldn't
notice.  

With the MB reman these engines are very reliable, Right?   


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 (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL,
 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.okiebenz.com



Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D - is it worth it?

2007-03-23 Thread Sunil Hari

Super nice?  How nice are we talking?

On 3/22/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I got a super nice 300SDL I might trade you for.

Sunil Hari wrote:
 I'd trade my 300D for a 300SDL in a heartbeat - that and a stick 240D
are
 the two practical cars I lust for

 On 3/22/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Trade for a 300SDL?

 Original Message
 From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 03/21/07 10:32 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D - is it worth it?
 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
 Tell you what - I'll trade my '81 240D, manual tranny, manual windows,
 manual sunroof, manual heater and AC, for your 300D. Light Yellow with
 tan MB Tex. It's been in our family for four generations - since we're
 all Donald A. Norris, I say it's a one owner car. Approx. 150K miles.

 On 3/21/07, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My mechanic here has a 1982 240D with 220Kmi on the chassis, 150Kmi on
 the
 engine that he just put in, manual tranny, body has no rust on it. He
 says
 it's ready to roll with no mechanical issues.  Burgundy with tan Tex
 interior.

 Ceteris paribus, is it worth the $3000 he wants for it?  I know that
 value
 is a highly subjective term to the listers, but please give me your
 honest
 opinion.

 More importantly, is it worth selling my current 300D (124) in order
 to buy
 the 240D?  I know, my current ride is a better car, but I really
 like the
 manual transmission in the benzes ...

 --
 Sunil Hari
 --
 OK Don, KD5NRO
 Norman, OK
 Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just
 sit there.
 Will Rogers
 '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager

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  89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
  81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freighter

2007-03-23 Thread OK Don

Buy my SLC, and I'll include the CIS tester ---

On 3/22/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

did they have the CIS injection tester in stock?  I was thinking that
was an online only deal.  Whats the item number?




--
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Norman, OK
Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just
sit there.
Will Rogers
'90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager



Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D - is it worth it?

2007-03-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

you have not seen the pictures?

http://www.okiebenz.com/pics/8730sdl/

brand new front seat covers, brand new tires, brand new radiator, brand 
new vacuum pump.  Doubt I would get rid of it except for a REALLY nice 
car.  Oh yea, trap has been removed.


Sunil Hari wrote:

Super nice?  How nice are we talking?

On 3/22/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I got a super nice 300SDL I might trade you for.

Sunil Hari wrote:

I'd trade my 300D for a 300SDL in a heartbeat - that and a stick 240D

are

the two practical cars I lust for

On 3/22/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Trade for a 300SDL?

Original Message
From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03/21/07 10:32 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D - is it worth it?
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Tell you what - I'll trade my '81 240D, manual tranny, manual windows,
manual sunroof, manual heater and AC, for your 300D. Light Yellow with
tan MB Tex. It's been in our family for four generations - since we're
all Donald A. Norris, I say it's a one owner car. Approx. 150K miles.

On 3/21/07, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

My mechanic here has a 1982 240D with 220Kmi on the chassis, 150Kmi on

the

engine that he just put in, manual tranny, body has no rust on it. He

says

it's ready to roll with no mechanical issues.  Burgundy with tan Tex
interior.

Ceteris paribus, is it worth the $3000 he wants for it?  I know that

value

is a highly subjective term to the listers, but please give me your

honest

opinion.

More importantly, is it worth selling my current 300D (124) in order

to buy

the 240D?  I know, my current ride is a better car, but I really

like the

manual transmission in the benzes ...

--
Sunil Hari

--
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just
sit there.
Will Rogers
'90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager

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  89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
  81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freighter

2007-03-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

how much do you want for it?

OK Don wrote:

Buy my SLC, and I'll include the CIS tester ---

On 3/22/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

did they have the CIS injection tester in stock?  I was thinking that
was an online only deal.  Whats the item number?






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 (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL,
 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.okiebenz.com



[MBZ] mobile 1

2007-03-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
OK, so today walmart has the 5 quart 15w50, doesnt say extended 
performance.  Also have 4qt in stock turbo diesel truck for 23 
something.  The 15w40 was 22 something for 5 quarts.  Is the TDT still 
the same as delvac 1.

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 (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL,
 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.okiebenz.com



Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D

2007-03-23 Thread RELNGSON
 1982 240D - is it worth it?
 
Very nice repaint, probably done when the collision damage was repaired. The 
area inside the fuel door gives it away plus the trunk lid fit is way off and 
the star on it is lopsided to the left.

RLE





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Re: [MBZ] Ebay diesel

2007-03-23 Thread RELNGSON
Oops, it's a 300D, not a 240D.

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Re: [MBZ] First gullible replies

2007-03-23 Thread RELNGSON
 I think this may be a bit of an urban myth, if it was true it would have 
 made the news a bit more, rather than on a Kiwi gossip site. But keep 
 dreaming Roger, one day you may find the fabled annoyed wife who wants to get 
 even 
 with her cheating hubby.
 
What ARE you on about? The lead story was the one about buy one get one 
free at the Porsche store. Looking at all the rest, it was obvious the whole 
site 
was made up humor.

Sorry you didn't get it. Well, not really.

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[MBZ] Drivable on Modern Roads, was 240D

2007-03-23 Thread Dan Weeks
do 35K a year on every interstate from Bangor Maine to Bellefonte  
Ohio to

Richmond VA.  1979 240D Auto, the roads are still made with the same
material they were 30 years ago.

Regards Tom

I agree, Tom. 240 D Autos with the air on are speedsters compared to  
what I used to drive--a Vanagon Diesel westfalia. 48 HP, 2 tons, and  
the aerodynamics of an open parachute. I swapped in a 70 hp  
turbodiesel when the NA engine coughed up blood and died, and even  
with that engine I've still been held to a maximum speed of 50 mph on  
dead level ground for hours (in KS) when fighting a hellish headwind.  
I'm not complaining--a full-featured RV that sleeps 4, will ford 18- 
inch deep creeks, off-road like a truck, cruise most days at 65-70  
and get 25 mpg is a hell of a deal in my book.


And THAT's fast compared to my brother's 1942 International KB-7 5- 
ton straight truck. On a trip from Des Moines to Chicago I scaled 8  
3/4 tons with it, hauling river rock. All that with a 265 inch, 6-1  
compression stroker six making all of 89 horsepower. It did the whole  
trip--uphill and down--at it's maximum recommended cruising speed of  
45 mph turning 2000 revs (redline is 2200). Took all ten non- 
syncromesh gears to get it there, I might add.


More recently, I've just returned from a 3500 mile trip to Ellsworth,  
Maine driving a 1986 Chevy S-10 2.5 liter 5-speed. Did the whole trip  
at 65 with a half-ton in the bed and another ton on a utility trailer  
behind, most of it in overdrive, interestingly enough, and averaging  
20.5 mpg. It was damn near wide open the whole way--in 4th when 5th  
wouldn't pull the speed limit.


Underpowered is all in the mind.

That said, I did the same 3,500 mile trip recently in five hours less  
time driving my 300SD. That time, I was averaging--including stops,  
mind you--66 mph, including a stint through chicago after rush hour,  
construction, toll booths, gas stops and potty breaks, and 4 hours of  
two lane roads. Much of the time, I was running 80-85 in effortless  
comfort, and given my other vehicular experiences, appreciating every  
mile of it. Even on the two-lanes I was doing 70, passing supposedly  
better-handling cars whose drivers were jarring their fillings loose  
on the frost heaves at the 50 mph speed limit.


Dan






Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D - is it worth it?

2007-03-23 Thread Sunil Hari

how many miles?

On 3/22/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


you have not seen the pictures?

http://www.okiebenz.com/pics/8730sdl/

brand new front seat covers, brand new tires, brand new radiator, brand
new vacuum pump.  Doubt I would get rid of it except for a REALLY nice
car.  Oh yea, trap has been removed.

Sunil Hari wrote:
 Super nice?  How nice are we talking?

 On 3/22/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I got a super nice 300SDL I might trade you for.

 Sunil Hari wrote:
 I'd trade my 300D for a 300SDL in a heartbeat - that and a stick 240D
 are
 the two practical cars I lust for

 On 3/22/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Trade for a 300SDL?

 Original Message
 From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 03/21/07 10:32 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D - is it worth it?
 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
 Tell you what - I'll trade my '81 240D, manual tranny, manual
windows,
 manual sunroof, manual heater and AC, for your 300D. Light Yellow
with
 tan MB Tex. It's been in our family for four generations - since
we're
 all Donald A. Norris, I say it's a one owner car. Approx. 150K miles.

 On 3/21/07, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My mechanic here has a 1982 240D with 220Kmi on the chassis, 150Kmi
on
 the
 engine that he just put in, manual tranny, body has no rust on it.
He
 says
 it's ready to roll with no mechanical issues.  Burgundy with tan Tex
 interior.

 Ceteris paribus, is it worth the $3000 he wants for it?  I know that
 value
 is a highly subjective term to the listers, but please give me your
 honest
 opinion.

 More importantly, is it worth selling my current 300D (124) in order
 to buy
 the 240D?  I know, my current ride is a better car, but I really
 like the
 manual transmission in the benzes ...

 --
 Sunil Hari
 --
 OK Don, KD5NRO
 Norman, OK
 Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just
 sit there.
 Will Rogers
 '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager

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   89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
   81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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  81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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[MBZ] W115 GP Question

2007-03-23 Thread B Dike
All,

Is there a add-on part that would allow the GPs to stay lit while the starter 
is turning  on the 74 240D?  If so, where might one obtain said device?

Thanks,



Bruce
82 300CD 348kmi 'His'
85 300CD 253kmi 'Hers'
75 240D 202kmi 'Donner'
77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen' gone to a better place
74 240D 79kmi 'Orangewagen'
73 220D 'Fnu Lnu'
 
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yes, it is.

On 3/22/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 OK, so today walmart has the 5 quart 15w50, doesnt say extended
 performance.  Also have 4qt in stock turbo diesel truck for 23
 something.  The 15w40 was 22 something for 5 quarts.  Is the TDT still
 the same as delvac 1.
 --
 Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
   (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL,
   89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
   81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
 http://www.okiebenz.com

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Re: [MBZ] mobile 1

2007-03-23 Thread Ralph W
Since we're talking M1 again I thought I would mention that Murray's Auto 
has it on sale. They are in Michigan, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois,etc and have 
been carrying TDT since it came out in Qt containers. It's on sale for $4.99 
instead of $5.99.


I've been checking local Walmarts and have yet to see gallon jugs of TDT.

Ralph W.
'83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons)
'90 300D   '01 E320 Wagon
'87 300TD
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From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Subject: [MBZ] mobile 1



OK, so today walmart has the 5 quart 15w50, doesnt say extended
performance.  Also have 4qt in stock turbo diesel truck for 23
something.  The 15w40 was 22 something for 5 quarts.  Is the TDT still
the same as delvac 1.
--
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 (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL,
 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.okiebenz.com

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Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers

2007-03-23 Thread Allan Streib


L. Mark Finch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Microsoft Vista Sales Slip
 in Digital Media | Tech | Web/Tech
 Barron's Eric Savitz (Tech Trader Daily) notes that Windows' Vista  
 isn't exactly lighting it up over at Amazon's Software best seller  
 list.

In even stronger terms, on March 19 he notes that ThinkEquity has
proclaimed Vista to be a Disaster.

http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily/2007/03/19/microsoft-vista-is-a-disaster-thinkequity-says/

Allan
-- 
1983 300D
1966 230



Re: [MBZ] W115 GP Question

2007-03-23 Thread Peter Frederick
They do already -- on the pull knob type the dash indicator is bypassed 
to compensate for the voltage and current drop from cranking.


Peter




Re: [MBZ] Drivable on Modern Roads, was 240D

2007-03-23 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
I  drive my 240D auto from southern RI to Boston -145 mile RT 2-3 times a
week.  It is a good middle lane car on  a 3 lane interstate. AS was noted
earlier, you have to learn to anticipate and focus on skill not horsepower.
Of course, it is a treat on the easy I drive the 300D 2.5t and kick the
turbo in on the outside lane.  The AC doesn't work on my 240D so I only have
the automatic drawing horsepower.  My brother's stick 240D is really peppy.


Dwight E. Giles, Jr., Ph.D.
Professor of Higher Education Administration
University of Massachusetts, Boston
Boston, MA
617.287.7621
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Subject: [MBZ] Drivable on Modern Roads, was 240D

 do 35K a year on every interstate from Bangor Maine to Bellefonte  
 Ohio to
 Richmond VA.  1979 240D Auto, the roads are still made with the same
 material they were 30 years ago.





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Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D - is it worth it?

2007-03-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

234k

Sunil Hari wrote:

how many miles?

On 3/22/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

you have not seen the pictures?

http://www.okiebenz.com/pics/8730sdl/

brand new front seat covers, brand new tires, brand new radiator, brand
new vacuum pump.  Doubt I would get rid of it except for a REALLY nice
car.  Oh yea, trap has been removed.

Sunil Hari wrote:

Super nice?  How nice are we talking?

On 3/22/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I got a super nice 300SDL I might trade you for.

Sunil Hari wrote:

I'd trade my 300D for a 300SDL in a heartbeat - that and a stick 240D

are

the two practical cars I lust for

On 3/22/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Trade for a 300SDL?

Original Message
From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03/21/07 10:32 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D - is it worth it?
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Tell you what - I'll trade my '81 240D, manual tranny, manual

windows,

manual sunroof, manual heater and AC, for your 300D. Light Yellow

with

tan MB Tex. It's been in our family for four generations - since

we're

all Donald A. Norris, I say it's a one owner car. Approx. 150K miles.

On 3/21/07, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

My mechanic here has a 1982 240D with 220Kmi on the chassis, 150Kmi

on

the

engine that he just put in, manual tranny, body has no rust on it.

He

says

it's ready to roll with no mechanical issues.  Burgundy with tan Tex
interior.

Ceteris paribus, is it worth the $3000 he wants for it?  I know that

value

is a highly subjective term to the listers, but please give me your

honest

opinion.

More importantly, is it worth selling my current 300D (124) in order

to buy

the 240D?  I know, my current ride is a better car, but I really

like the

manual transmission in the benzes ...

--
Sunil Hari

--
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just
sit there.
Will Rogers
'90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager

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  89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
  81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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  89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
  81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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 (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL,
 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.okiebenz.com



Re: [MBZ] mobile 1

2007-03-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
are we sure, from what I hear they have been messing with the formulas 
again.


Sunil Hari wrote:

yes, it is.

On 3/22/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

OK, so today walmart has the 5 quart 15w50, doesnt say extended
performance.  Also have 4qt in stock turbo diesel truck for 23
something.  The 15w40 was 22 something for 5 quarts.  Is the TDT still
the same as delvac 1.
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
  (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL,
  89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
  81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.okiebenz.com

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 (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL,
 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.okiebenz.com



Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D - is it worth it?

2007-03-23 Thread Sunil Hari

want to trade for my 300D?

On 3/22/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


234k

Sunil Hari wrote:
 how many miles?

 On 3/22/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 you have not seen the pictures?

 http://www.okiebenz.com/pics/8730sdl/

 brand new front seat covers, brand new tires, brand new radiator, brand
 new vacuum pump.  Doubt I would get rid of it except for a REALLY nice
 car.  Oh yea, trap has been removed.

 Sunil Hari wrote:
 Super nice?  How nice are we talking?

 On 3/22/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I got a super nice 300SDL I might trade you for.

 Sunil Hari wrote:
 I'd trade my 300D for a 300SDL in a heartbeat - that and a stick
240D
 are
 the two practical cars I lust for

 On 3/22/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Trade for a 300SDL?

 Original Message
 From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 03/21/07 10:32 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D - is it worth it?
 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
 Tell you what - I'll trade my '81 240D, manual tranny, manual
 windows,
 manual sunroof, manual heater and AC, for your 300D. Light Yellow
 with
 tan MB Tex. It's been in our family for four generations - since
 we're
 all Donald A. Norris, I say it's a one owner car. Approx. 150K
miles.

 On 3/21/07, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My mechanic here has a 1982 240D with 220Kmi on the chassis,
150Kmi
 on
 the
 engine that he just put in, manual tranny, body has no rust on it.
 He
 says
 it's ready to roll with no mechanical issues.  Burgundy with tan
Tex
 interior.

 Ceteris paribus, is it worth the $3000 he wants for it?  I know
that
 value
 is a highly subjective term to the listers, but please give me
your
 honest
 opinion.

 More importantly, is it worth selling my current 300D (124) in
order
 to buy
 the 240D?  I know, my current ride is a better car, but I really
 like the
 manual transmission in the benzes ...

 --
 Sunil Hari
 --
 OK Don, KD5NRO
 Norman, OK
 Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just
 sit there.
 Will Rogers
 '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager

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   89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
   81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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   89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
   81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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  89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
  81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] 240D is it worth it

2007-03-23 Thread Donald Snook
Hey Kaleb - Want to trade your super 300SDL for a super nice 1990 300SEL
with 100,000 less miles?

 

Donald H. Snook

1990 300SEL 136K 



Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freighter

2007-03-23 Thread OK Don

Too much - make an offer.

On 3/22/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

how much do you want for it?



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Norman, OK
Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just
sit there.
Will Rogers
'90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager



Re: [MBZ] 240D is it worth it

2007-03-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

got pics?

Donald Snook wrote:

Hey Kaleb - Want to trade your super 300SDL for a super nice 1990 300SEL
with 100,000 less miles?

 


Donald H. Snook

1990 300SEL 136K 


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 (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL,
 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.okiebenz.com



Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freighter

2007-03-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

heck I dont know what to offer.

OK Don wrote:

Too much - make an offer.

On 3/22/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

how much do you want for it?





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 (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL,
 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.okiebenz.com



Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freighter

2007-03-23 Thread OK Don

What about a couple of these to be driven by a 616 engine??? 3600 RPM,
7.2KW each.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=45416


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Norman, OK
Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just
sit there.
Will Rogers
'90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager



Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freighter

2007-03-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
speaking of this, I have thought of getting some sort of generator that 
could run the whole house and power it with a 240D engine, like in a 
little shed beside the house.  Hmm. Think I probably need something 
a little bigger than this generator though?


OK Don wrote:

What about a couple of these to be driven by a 616 engine??? 3600 RPM,
7.2KW each.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=45416




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 (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL,
 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.okiebenz.com



[MBZ] OT - Sunrise in east

2007-03-23 Thread wilton strickland
- B-52 navs used to say, We measure it with calipers, mark it with a
grease pencil and chop it with an ax.

Calipers refers to trying to get very fine/precise readings in bearing and
elevation of the celestial body on the sextant.  Mark with grease pencil
refers to the occasional dull pencil which could plot a line on some charts
nearly a mile wide.  Chop it with an ax refers to navigator judgment which
sometimes leads him/her to put more weight/value on one celestial
observation than another or to place more value on DR position (dead
reckoning position obtained by plotting heading, air speed, time and
wind/drift) than on the celestial info.

Wilton




Re: [MBZ] OT - Sunrise in east

2007-03-23 Thread LT Don

Wilton:

Got an email from Moses today. He wants you to return the rock you borrowed
from him.

Dang, Wilton, I at least had Loran-A to guide me thru the skies.

Our plane did carry a sextant, though. I used it once to thump the side of
my HF receiver when a tuning sub-system something-or-other was stuck and
wouldn't track.

The thump fixed the HF. I carefully returned the sextant to its storage
area. Couldn't replace the disturbed cobwebs, however.

Let me bring you up to speed on the modern aircraft nav in the 1970s. Cross
two Loran-A lines on a chart (paper, covered by 1/4 plexiglass, marked on
by a one-mile-wide grease pencil. Took about 30 seconds to get a position,
so by the time you marked where you are (were) you'd boogied a bit down the
piece of paper. Throw in parallax error caused by the plexiglass and ground
speed while plotting, throw in the width of the grease pencil, I always knew
where I was at any given fifteen minute interval, +/- 10 miles. (Lots of
ocean to search in a 10x10 mile area.) ... We started getting Loran-C
receivers about the time I stopped flying nav and headed off to OCS.

All joking aside, I carried my own charts. No grease pencil and no
plexiglass. I nav'd on paper -- carried my own set in my helmet bag -- with
a sharp pencil. Very anal-retentive and detail oriented. And that is the
same characteristic that motivated my air station officers to ask me to
apply (successfully) to OCS.

D.

On 3/22/07, wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


- B-52 navs used to say, We measure it with calipers, mark it with a
grease pencil and chop it with an ax.

Calipers refers to trying to get very fine/precise readings in bearing
and
elevation of the celestial body on the sextant.  Mark with grease pencil
refers to the occasional dull pencil which could plot a line on some
charts
nearly a mile wide.  Chop it with an ax refers to navigator judgment
which
sometimes leads him/her to put more weight/value on one celestial
observation than another or to place more value on DR position (dead
reckoning position obtained by plotting heading, air speed, time and
wind/drift) than on the celestial info.

Wilton


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Sunrise in the east

2007-03-23 Thread LT Don

I drove IFR to a business meeting yesterday. Thick fog, could almost see the
hood star. Came up to what I thought might be a stop light at 20 mph, and it
turned out to be the trailer of an 18-wheeler leaving a fuel stop.

I stopped in time, but just barely.

I said the f-word -- disappointed the two females sitting in the back
seat.

On 3/22/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Back when I flew - in the 70s - I used to fly IFR (I Follow Roads) - a
road
map, altimeter and binoculars.  And a watch was handy -
;-)

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Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Sunrise in the east


 My ground school instructor ferried B-17s during WWII, to South American
 to Africa then to Europe.  He would leave Florida, fly south, take a
 left at land, and find the airfield.  Then he would fly east, hit land,
 take a nav shot then turn right or left to the airfield.  He said he
 always landed withing 15 minutes of the guys who spent their whole
 flight obsessing about their navigation, and played cards, napped, and
 had a good time while flying.

 --R

 LT Don wrote:
 A one mile wide grease pencil on the nav charts I used, I might add.

 On 3/22/07, wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 B-52 navigators used to say, We measure it with calipers, mark
 it with a grease pencil and chop it with an ax.







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Re: [MBZ] OT - Sunrise in east

2007-03-23 Thread OK Don

Sheesh -- I first used LF loops, then moved up to Omni Range - on VHF,
in Dad's plane. I just had a little 4 freq. Narco - could talk to some
of the towers when I got there (or close enough). The E6B and reports
from the FSS was usually close enough (while following the railroad
tracks). I don't think there was room for a sextant in my Cessna 140.
The auto pilot function was not falling asleep.

On 3/22/07, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Wilton:

Got an email from Moses today. He wants you to return the rock you borrowed
from him.

Dang, Wilton, I at least had Loran-A to guide me thru the skies.

Our plane did carry a sextant, though. I used it once to thump the side of
my HF receiver when a tuning sub-system something-or-other was stuck and
wouldn't track.

The thump fixed the HF. I carefully returned the sextant to its storage
area. Couldn't replace the disturbed cobwebs, however.

Let me bring you up to speed on the modern aircraft nav in the 1970s. Cross
two Loran-A lines on a chart (paper, covered by 1/4 plexiglass, marked on
by a one-mile-wide grease pencil. Took about 30 seconds to get a position,
so by the time you marked where you are (were) you'd boogied a bit down the
piece of paper. Throw in parallax error caused by the plexiglass and ground
speed while plotting, throw in the width of the grease pencil, I always knew
where I was at any given fifteen minute interval, +/- 10 miles. (Lots of
ocean to search in a 10x10 mile area.) ... We started getting Loran-C
receivers about the time I stopped flying nav and headed off to OCS.

All joking aside, I carried my own charts. No grease pencil and no
plexiglass. I nav'd on paper -- carried my own set in my helmet bag -- with
a sharp pencil. Very anal-retentive and detail oriented. And that is the
same characteristic that motivated my air station officers to ask me to
apply (successfully) to OCS.

D.

On 3/22/07, wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 - B-52 navs used to say, We measure it with calipers, mark it with a
 grease pencil and chop it with an ax.

 Calipers refers to trying to get very fine/precise readings in bearing
 and
 elevation of the celestial body on the sextant.  Mark with grease pencil
 refers to the occasional dull pencil which could plot a line on some
 charts
 nearly a mile wide.  Chop it with an ax refers to navigator judgment
 which
 sometimes leads him/her to put more weight/value on one celestial
 observation than another or to place more value on DR position (dead
 reckoning position obtained by plotting heading, air speed, time and
 wind/drift) than on the celestial info.

 Wilton


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Sunrise in east

2007-03-23 Thread LT Don

You were flying Dad's plane, paid for by Dad's bank account.

I had the USA subsidizing my  avionics package, plus paying me a nICe (--
won't fix that, that was the cat's paw) ... wage to fix 'em and then fly
'em.

Today, I'd be doing the same thing in a Falcon 20 w/ SatNav and GPS.

On 3/22/07, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Sheesh -- I first used LF loops, then moved up to Omni Range - on VHF,
in Dad's plane. I just had a little 4 freq. Narco - could talk to some
of the towers when I got there (or close enough). The E6B and reports
from the FSS was usually close enough (while following the railroad
tracks). I don't think there was room for a sextant in my Cessna 140.
The auto pilot function was not falling asleep.

On 3/22/07, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Wilton:

 Got an email from Moses today. He wants you to return the rock you
borrowed
 from him.

 Dang, Wilton, I at least had Loran-A to guide me thru the skies.

 Our plane did carry a sextant, though. I used it once to thump the side
of
 my HF receiver when a tuning sub-system something-or-other was stuck and
 wouldn't track.

 The thump fixed the HF. I carefully returned the sextant to its storage
 area. Couldn't replace the disturbed cobwebs, however.

 Let me bring you up to speed on the modern aircraft nav in the 1970s.
Cross
 two Loran-A lines on a chart (paper, covered by 1/4 plexiglass, marked
on
 by a one-mile-wide grease pencil. Took about 30 seconds to get a
position,
 so by the time you marked where you are (were) you'd boogied a bit down
the
 piece of paper. Throw in parallax error caused by the plexiglass and
ground
 speed while plotting, throw in the width of the grease pencil, I always
knew
 where I was at any given fifteen minute interval, +/- 10 miles. (Lots of
 ocean to search in a 10x10 mile area.) ... We started getting Loran-C
 receivers about the time I stopped flying nav and headed off to OCS.

 All joking aside, I carried my own charts. No grease pencil and no
 plexiglass. I nav'd on paper -- carried my own set in my helmet bag --
with
 a sharp pencil. Very anal-retentive and detail oriented. And that is the
 same characteristic that motivated my air station officers to ask me to
 apply (successfully) to OCS.

 D.

 On 3/22/07, wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  - B-52 navs used to say, We measure it with calipers, mark it
with a
  grease pencil and chop it with an ax.
 
  Calipers refers to trying to get very fine/precise readings in
bearing
  and
  elevation of the celestial body on the sextant.  Mark with grease
pencil
  refers to the occasional dull pencil which could plot a line on some
  charts
  nearly a mile wide.  Chop it with an ax refers to navigator judgment
  which
  sometimes leads him/her to put more weight/value on one celestial
  observation than another or to place more value on DR position (dead
  reckoning position obtained by plotting heading, air speed, time and
  wind/drift) than on the celestial info.
 
  Wilton
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Sunrise in east

2007-03-23 Thread OK Don

I was flying Dad's Cessna 195, and MY Cessna 140, paid for out of my own pocket!

On 3/22/07, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

You were flying Dad's plane, paid for by Dad's bank account.

I had the USA subsidizing my  avionics package, plus paying me a nICe (--
won't fix that, that was the cat's paw) ... wage to fix 'em and then fly
'em.

Today, I'd be doing the same thing in a Falcon 20 w/ SatNav and GPS.



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Re: [MBZ] Drivable on Modern Roads, was 240D

2007-03-23 Thread Loren Faeth

Amen   That is a good description of what Mercedes do best.

The new STAR has an article about 3 elderly MBs running in the Carrera 
Panamerica, 2 pontons and a 111.  Two of the trio won their class, the 
third, with an ameteur driver did respectably.  All were essentially 
stock.  110s and 111 on  rough terrain are amazing.  I never drove a 
ponton, so i can't say about them.


At 07:43 PM 3/22/2007, you wrote:

Much of the time, I was running 80-85 in effortless
comfort, and given my other vehicular experiences, appreciating every
mile of it. Even on the two-lanes I was doing 70, passing supposedly
better-handling cars whose drivers were jarring their fillings loose
on the frost heaves at the 50 mph speed limit.


Loren Faeth 





Re: [MBZ] OT - Sunrise in east

2007-03-23 Thread LT Don

I rest my case. I had Loran-A, Loran-C, twin VOR, TACAN/DME, twin VHF voice,
UHF, VHF-FM, ...

By the way, _I_ as the bench tech calibrating this stuff. Nothing makes you
accurate calibrating glide slope stuff more than knowing it is YOUR butt
these trons are bring home alive.

:-)


On 3/22/07, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I was flying Dad's Cessna 195, and MY Cessna 140, paid for out of my own
pocket!

On 3/22/07, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You were flying Dad's plane, paid for by Dad's bank account.

 I had the USA subsidizing my  avionics package, plus paying me a nICe
(--
 won't fix that, that was the cat's paw) ... wage to fix 'em and then fly
 'em.

 Today, I'd be doing the same thing in a Falcon 20 w/ SatNav and GPS.


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Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freighter

2007-03-23 Thread Jim Cathey

What about a couple of these to be driven by a 616 engine??? 3600 RPM,
7.2KW each.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=45416


They're pretty light-duty.  My plan is to do something more
like this:

http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/genset2.html

There are also good Chinese and Indian generator ends out there.
Stout stuff.  Very heavy.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] W115 GP Question

2007-03-23 Thread Jim Cathey

They do already -- on the pull knob type the dash indicator is bypassed
to compensate for the voltage and current drop from cranking.


Interesting!  I didn't know that.  I did know the 'cigar lighter'
goes out while cranking.  (Usually I don't have to crank long enough
to notice this.)

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] W115 GP Question

2007-03-23 Thread Jim Cathey
Is there a add-on part that would allow the GPs to stay lit while the 
starter is turning  on the 74 240D?  If so, where might one obtain 
said device?


All the key-start ones already do this, I believe.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] W115 GP Question

2007-03-23 Thread Loren Faeth
I use a starter relay from a 66 ford bronco or equivalent.  It has 2 posts 
for the pilot circuit, so you can run a ground wire inside, to a pushbutton 
switch and then to a ground.  The hot side of the pilot circuit only has to 
run a couple of feet to the battery.  Connect the power to the battery side 
of the resistance coil on the dash.  This works on key-glow later models 
when the switch or relay are intermittent.  I used this on my 81 240D when 
it had what turned out to be a series of bad starter relays.  Just push the 
button for glow or start, depending on how you wire it.


I had one on my escort diesel for the glow circuit too.  It was flakey from 
time to time.


At 07:47 PM 3/22/2007, you wrote:

All,

Is there a add-on part that would allow the GPs to stay lit while the 
starter is turning  on the 74 240D?  If so, where might one obtain said device?


Thanks,



Bruce
82 300CD 348kmi 'His'
85 300CD 253kmi 'Hers'
75 240D 202kmi 'Donner'
77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen' gone to a better place
74 240D 79kmi 'Orangewagen'
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Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freighter

2007-03-23 Thread Jim Cathey

did they have the CIS injection tester in stock?  I was thinking that
was an online only deal.  Whats the item number?


They did.  I looked it over before buying it.  #95319

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Drivable on Modern Roads, was 240D

2007-03-23 Thread Rich Thomas
Which ones won?  I saw one in Houston back in the fall, we discussed it 
a bit, I forget now what it was, some German soap powder sponsor or 
something.


--R

Loren Faeth wrote:

Amen   That is a good description of what Mercedes do best.

The new STAR has an article about 3 elderly MBs running in the Carrera 
Panamerica, 2 pontons and a 111.  Two of the trio won their class, the 
third, with an ameteur driver did respectably.  All were essentially 
stock.  110s and 111 on  rough terrain are amazing.  I never drove a 
ponton, so i can't say about them.
  
  





Re: [MBZ] 240D is it worth it

2007-03-23 Thread Loren Faeth
Chill man1  I am trying to sell Snookie my really nice burgundy sDL so i 
can buy a smoke silver SDL with a burgundy interior to replace my high mile 
one!  .Like YOURS!  I WANT IT!   You can have his 300SEL 
gasser.  He wants too much money for it.


At 10:09 PM 3/22/2007, you wrote:

got pics?

Donald Snook wrote:
 Hey Kaleb - Want to trade your super 300SDL for a super nice 1990 300SEL
 with 100,000 less miles?


Loren Faeth 





[MBZ] Correction: was 240D is it worth it

2007-03-23 Thread Loren Faeth
I made an incorrect statement.  The car is worth at least what Don thinks 
it is worth.  It is just that it is not worth that much to  me because I 
like Diesels.  Don, my apologies.  I was just torqued because Kaleb was 
holding out on the car I really am looking for!




 He wants too much money for it.


Loren Faeth 





[MBZ] Nice Shell commercial

2007-03-23 Thread RELNGSON
http://dailymotion.alice.it/video/x1ho6r_shell-ferrari-the-circuit



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Re: [MBZ] W115 GP Question

2007-03-23 Thread Loren Faeth
yes, I meant to put that in my post also, but the ford relay is a good 
backup for either flaky starter switches or flaky glow plug 
switches.  According to the book, the glow circuit stays energized while 
the starter is on.  The pushbutton system however, makes a cheap manual 
afterglow system.


At 10:28 PM 3/22/2007, you wrote:

 They do already -- on the pull knob type the dash indicator is bypassed
 to compensate for the voltage and current drop from cranking.

Interesting!  I didn't know that.  I did know the 'cigar lighter'
goes out while cranking.  (Usually I don't have to crank long enough
to notice this.)

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Correction: was 240D is it worth it

2007-03-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
crap, I thought everyone already knew about that SDL of mine, I posted 
pics when I got it.  Im really attatched to it.


Loren Faeth wrote:
I made an incorrect statement.  The car is worth at least what Don thinks 
it is worth.  It is just that it is not worth that much to  me because I 
like Diesels.  Don, my apologies.  I was just torqued because Kaleb was 
holding out on the car I really am looking for!




 He wants too much money for it.


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[MBZ] Gov'ment sales

2007-03-23 Thread Loren Faeth
Someone in the past posted a link to government sales when there were a 
bunch of 603 engines for sale in AK.  Does anyone know what that website 
is?  Seems I am in the market for a forklift.  I was thinking maybe Uncle 
has one i might pick up





Loren Faeth 





Re: [MBZ] Correction: was 240D is it worth it

2007-03-23 Thread Luther
Good thing you weren't attached to my SDL:D

On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 23:02:00 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 crap, I thought everyone already knew about that SDL of mine, I posted
 pics when I got it.  Im really attatched to it.

 Loren Faeth wrote:
 I made an incorrect statement.  The car is worth at least what Don thinks
 it is worth.  It is just that it is not worth that much to  me because I
 like Diesels.  Don, my apologies.  I was just torqued because Kaleb was
 holding out on the car I really am looking for!


  He wants too much money for it.

 Loren Faeth





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[MBZ] OT Tiger

2007-03-23 Thread Redghost
Borked the drive on the TiBook.  Now I have to figure out how to get 
Tiger back on it with a new drive.  No Tiger retail, just the eMac 
disks.  I have an eMac, so ...  Can I install using the eMac and then 
swap disk into the machine I want to have Tiger in?



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Clay
Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz




Re: [MBZ] OT Tiger

2007-03-23 Thread Jim Cathey

Borked the drive on the TiBook.  Now I have to figure out how to get
Tiger back on it with a new drive.  No Tiger retail, just the eMac
disks.  I have an eMac, so ...  Can I install using the eMac and then
swap disk into the machine I want to have Tiger in?


Perhaps.  I just use the Firewire target disk mode, but I have
the install disks for 10.2.8, 10.3.5, and 10.4.8 (or thereabouts).

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Gov'ment sales

2007-03-23 Thread Jim Cathey

Someone in the past posted a link to government sales when there were a
bunch of 603 engines for sale in AK.  Does anyone know what that 
website
is?  Seems I am in the market for a forklift.  I was thinking maybe 
Uncle

has one i might pick up


http://gsaauctions.gov ?

There's another one too, but I forget.  I believe those 603's
are long gone, but I could be wrong.

-- Jim




[MBZ] OT: Wood Splitters

2007-03-23 Thread Jim Cathey

Need to do this sooner or later, and I have a 15% coupon at HF.
Their flier had a 30-ton unit.  Has a 9HP Robin and a 16 GPM pump,
2-speed, and a 24 stroke.  $1300 (before discount).  Any likelihood
that this will be a decent enough unit?  They're all about $1k,
unless they're a whole lot more than that.

Preliminary results with the new Kill-A-Watt indicate that we're
spending about 6 cents/day for heat.  Plus wood.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] First gullible replies

2007-03-23 Thread Hendrik Riessen

The reason I didn't get it, is because it is not funny.
Well, it may be funny to certain people but I fail to see the wit. Perhaps 
if they had some canned laughter to go with it.
To put it into some perspective Fawlty Towers is funny, Benny Hill is not 
but I watched it because of the ladies nonetheless.


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I think this may be a bit of an urban myth, if it was true it would 
have

made the news a bit more, rather than on a Kiwi gossip site. But keep
dreaming Roger, one day you may find the fabled annoyed wife who wants to 
get even

with her cheating hubby.


What ARE you on about? The lead story was the one about buy one get one
free at the Porsche store. Looking at all the rest, it was obvious the 
whole site

was made up humor.

Sorry you didn't get it. Well, not really.

RLE





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Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freighter

2007-03-23 Thread John Peterson
I think it is built and open, the one in Warwick RI.  I saw it last 
weekend.  I didn't go in, but it appeared to be open for business.



Curt Raymond wrote:

None in New England yet, purportedly one being built in Warwick, RI.

Maybe the RI listers and I should plan a group event on opening day?

I fairly frequently see stuff there I'd like, and IR thermometer jumps to mind 
but hearing other stories of mailorder disaster makes me wary...

However I did go to a Cummins Tool show last Sunday. Picked up a decent 
cellphone carrier, a good set of magnetic parts and tool holders and an poor 
quality dutch oven that in 5 or 10 years might season up to acceptable.

-Curt

Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 22:01:04 -0500
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freighter
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Fortunately, the one here is 14 miles away. The distance keeps my trips 
down

to once a week..

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
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[MBZ] When to use Mobil 1 after engine rebuild

2007-03-23 Thread Peter Merle
Having rebuilt my Om 617 non turbo , how long should I run it on dino
before switching to Mobil 1 ?
Peter



[MBZ] [Fwd: Re: mobile (sic) 1]

2007-03-23 Thread Striplin Admin account



 Original Message 
Subject:Re: mobile (sic) 1
Date:   Thu, 22 Mar 2007 20:57:09 -0700
From:   Joe Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



I've got most of the 8 gal of DI I picked up last Fall still on the
shelf; it's still CI-4 Plus.  As I recall, so is TDT.  If I could score
TDT for less than $5/qt, I'd load up the shelves good.  Spud posted the
following offlist this AM:
Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel Truck 5W-40 and Mobil Delvac 1 5W-40 are the
same formulation and meet the exact same performance requirements.  ...
http://www.mobil1.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Synthetics/Myths.aspx

Scroll to the bottom of the page, it's in the fine print under the
'Diesel Engine' chart.

-j



Re: [MBZ] Correction: was 240D is it worth it

2007-03-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

Well, I was, but not quite as much.

Luther wrote:

Good thing you weren't attached to my SDL:D

On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 23:02:00 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


crap, I thought everyone already knew about that SDL of mine, I posted
pics when I got it.  Im really attatched to it.

Loren Faeth wrote:

I made an incorrect statement.  The car is worth at least what Don thinks
it is worth.  It is just that it is not worth that much to  me because I
like Diesels.  Don, my apologies.  I was just torqued because Kaleb was
holding out on the car I really am looking for!



 He wants too much money for it.

Loren Faeth







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Re: [MBZ] Gov'ment sales

2007-03-23 Thread Potter, Tom E
Here are some to get you started. 

http://www.lonestarauctioneers.com/ 

http://www.rbauction.com/index_ind.jsp

http://www.govliquidation.com/index.html 

http://www.liquidation.com/index.html 


Tom Potter

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To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] Gov'ment sales

Someone in the past posted a link to government sales when there were a 
bunch of 603 engines for sale in AK.  Does anyone know what that website

is?  Seems I am in the market for a forklift.  I was thinking maybe
Uncle 
has one i might pick up




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Re: [MBZ] OT Tiger

2007-03-23 Thread Peter Frederick

Jim:

Depends -- the eMac disks MAY allow you to install direct.  Otherwise, 
I would do either the firewire adapter install (connect the disk to the 
eMac via the firewire port) or install the drive in the eMac and then 
swap again.


USB won't work unless e eMac supports bootable USB devices.

Peter




Re: [MBZ] When to use Mobil 1 after engine rebuild

2007-03-23 Thread Peter Frederick
No more than 500 miles.  Make sure you do some full throttle high load 
runs (steep hills in high gear) first -- this polishes the cylinders a 
bit and seats the rings.  If you don't, oil consumption may stay high 
for a long time, MB cylinder walls are fairly hard, and they don't use 
scraper rings.


Change the filter at the same time.

Peter




Re: [MBZ] First gullible replies

2007-03-23 Thread LT Don

Benny Hill wasn't funny? I thought the 'she has Herbie's ring' bit was
great.

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The reason I didn't get it, is because it is not funny.
Well, it may be funny to certain people but I fail to see the wit. Perhaps
if they had some canned laughter to go with it.
To put it into some perspective Fawlty Towers is funny, Benny Hill is not
but I watched it because of the ladies nonetheless.





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Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freighter

2007-03-23 Thread Curt Raymond

Fer cryin out loud my wife used it to boil water on the woodstove yesterday 
while the power was out.
The left it on the stove (not lit) overnight...
When I got to it this morning it had a coating of rust. The seasoning it'd 
gained wasn't anywhere near enough. Had to scrub it with soap to get the rust 
off.

Why not use a pot to boil water I asked, I thought you wanted this to get used 
so it would break in.
Oh well, back to square one, again...

-Curt

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Don't let soap touch that thing and it will last you for years. I'm 
still
using a cast iron dutch oven that I bought in the late 70s or early 80s 
at a
garage sale. It is my favorite method of cooking almost anything I 
make.

On 3/22/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Interestingly cooking taco meat seems to be the fastest way to season 
cast
 iron. After dinner boiled some water in it and mopped it out with 
paper
 towels and dammed if it hasn't improved 50%.

 -Curt





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I've been down this road before with a set of Lodge frying pans. Took me a few 
years but they're real good now.
I don't remember if I sanded the pans but now that you mention it I might hit 
this with a little sandpaper...
Interestingly when cooking the taco meat sticking wasn't a problem at all. I 
was real surprised although I did it exactly right, got the pan hot and then 
added the oil, turned down the heat and kept the meat moving...

-Curt

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Curt Raymond wrote:
 
 Interestingly cooking taco meat seems to be the fastest way to season 
cast iron. 

I once bought a cheap piece of cast iron, couldn't season it enough
to make it stop sticking. Showed it to my mother, who pointed out
that it was still rough as cast, not milled smooth like every piece
of iron in her collection. So, either I attack it with auto body
tools or I find a real pancake griddle (Wearever, Regal, etc) at
a garage sale for less than I paid for my unfinished POS griddle. 

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Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D - is it worth it?

2007-03-23 Thread Curt Raymond

The real early vans had the same engine as the bug, so 40hp.

-Curt

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 One sort of learns to anticipate and drive accordingly. I don't
 think that I really hold up traffic or cause myself or anyone else a
 danger when I drive my old non turbo 300D.

Supposedly the worst were the diesel VW vans.  Something like 48 hp?

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Speaking of Benny Hill, does anyone watch Extras on HBO with Ricky Gervais,
original star of The Office?  The latest episodes feature a faux Briish TV
sitcom that is so appalingly bad it is actually funny.  It features the
catch phrase Are we havin' a laugh?.  The irony is that the show is a
commercial successful despite getting panned by critics and everyone in the
artistic community. Just thinking about it cracks me up.



On 3/23/07, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Benny Hill wasn't funny? I thought the 'she has Herbie's ring' bit was
 great.

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  The reason I didn't get it, is because it is not funny.
  Well, it may be funny to certain people but I fail to see the wit.
 Perhaps
  if they had some canned laughter to go with it.
  To put it into some perspective Fawlty Towers is funny, Benny Hill is
 not
  but I watched it because of the ladies nonetheless.
 
 


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Re: [MBZ] 81 300D with only 31K miles on ebay item # 330099948537

2007-03-23 Thread andrew strasfogel

Because he is an idiot.  Furthermore, I also don't trust any car dealer with
a FB rating below 99.



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Beautiful but I wonder why he calls it purple? Does not look purple to me
in the photos.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Wood Splitters

2007-03-23 Thread Curt Raymond

Depends on what you're splitting I think. Elm? Hell no, get something huge. ;)
Poplar (might call it quakeing aspen where you are) sure, it'll fly through it.

I've got a $99 Cummins tool manual splitter which preports to be 10 ton, its 
never failed me yet. Its even butchered its way through some pretty evil elm 
rounds.

Robin is made by Subaru I belive, got a good reputation generally.

-Curt

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Need to do this sooner or later, and I have a 15% coupon at HF.
Their flier had a 30-ton unit.  Has a 9HP Robin and a 16 GPM pump,
2-speed, and a 24 stroke.  $1300 (before discount).  Any likelihood
that this will be a decent enough unit?  They're all about $1k,
unless they're a whole lot more than that.

Preliminary results with the new Kill-A-Watt indicate that we're
spending about 6 cents/day for heat.  Plus wood.

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Elm has interlocking grain and doesn't split worth diddly -- will take 
huge power.  Oak, maple, poplar, etc will split easily without much 
need for umph except around knots.

Peter




[MBZ] OT - Sunrise in east, etc.

2007-03-23 Thread wilton strickland
Lt Don, B-52's have never had Loran; can't rely on outside source for nav
info - enemy may turn it off.  Therefor,  way of life for my era in SAC was
DR, celestial, pressure pattern, radar and  5K bombing/navigation
computers.  SAC had best long-range navigators in the world.  B-52 bomb/nav
computers were significantly upgraded/modernized in mid 80's; program is
underway to do it again.  I think they've  even had GPS for several years.

Wilton




[MBZ] What Mercedes Do Best

2007-03-23 Thread Dan Weeks

Loren:

Yep, I was covering La Carrera this year, and saw and talked to those  
guys. One of them was the only car in the field that ran stock seats-- 
and this was in a '59 (I believe) 220s. Column shift, stock wheels,  
the whole stock bit. He said not so fast--about 100, 110 tops, but  
tougher than a pine knot. His was an unmodified, unrestored ex- 
argentinian taxi.


Wouldn't trade the 300SD's five-link for the old swing axle on rough  
twisty roads though.


Seriously, the 126 flying down frost-heaved Maine backroads was one  
of the finest examples of great suspension engineering I've ever  
experienced. The car stuck to the road even around washboard corners,  
and I felt quite secure and very comfortable. My 75-year-old father  
was along for the ride. His first car was a '52 TD, and he's owned a  
sunbeam alpine, Volvos and Saab's. He said none of them could have  
kept up with us one what we were driving on and survived. And we got  
27.2 mpg for the trip.


Is that steering wheel off yet? :-)

Dan

Loren wrote:

Amen   That is a good description of what Mercedes do best.

The new STAR has an article about 3 elderly MBs running in the Carrera
Panamerica, 2 pontons and a 111.  Two of the trio won their class, the
third, with an ameteur driver did respectably.  All were essentially
stock.  110s and 111 on  rough terrain are amazing.  I never drove a
ponton, so i can't say about them.

At 07:43 PM 3/22/2007, you wrote:


Much of the time, I was running 80-85 in effortless
comfort, and given my other vehicular experiences, appreciating every
mile of it. Even on the two-lanes I was doing 70, passing supposedly
better-handling cars whose drivers were jarring their fillings loose
on the frost heaves at the 50 mph speed limit.



Loren Faeth




Re: [MBZ] OT: Wood Splitters

2007-03-23 Thread Jim Cathey

Elm has interlocking grain and doesn't split worth diddly -- will take
huge power.  Oak, maple, poplar, etc will split easily without much
need for umph except around knots.


Around here it's pine, with the occasional treat of fir!
Cycle time is an issue when you're splitting 10 cords/year
for your own purposes.  We're getting the rounds free from
a local tree service.

The nice ones on-line were something like $3-4k, way out
of my budget.  I've been looking for a decent used one for
years.  Pretty thin on the ground.

-- Jim




[MBZ] 88 MB Dallas auction

2007-03-23 Thread Loren Faeth


This listing is on the dallas impound auction for April 2

7006711 1988 MERC 4D BLAC WDBDA28DXJF497122 
http://www.lonestarauctioneers.com/auctions/DAP/auctionlist.htm




Loren Faeth 





Re: [MBZ] OT: Wood Splitters

2007-03-23 Thread Rich Thomas
You guys are total wimps.  Big sledge hammer and a wedge, or a maul.  
It wahms ya twice as they say down Maine.


--R
  





Re: [MBZ] When to use Mobil 1 after engine rebuild

2007-03-23 Thread LarryT
When I rebuilt my 78 240D I ran it on dino juice for approx 800 miles then 
switched to Mobil 1.  Now, with 30,000 miles on that rebuild it doesn't use 
or drip a single drop of oil.   I've been very happy with the results -


Good luck -

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Re: [MBZ] 88 MB Dallas auction

2007-03-23 Thread Rich Thomas

Probably belonged to a playa.

--R

Loren Faeth wrote:

This listing is on the dallas impound auction for April 2

7006711 1988 MERC 4D BLAC WDBDA28DXJF497122 
http://www.lonestarauctioneers.com/auctions/DAP/auctionlist.htm




Loren Faeth 



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Wood Splitters

2007-03-23 Thread John Robbins

Rich Thomas wrote:
You guys are total wimps.  Big sledge hammer and a wedge, or a maul.  
It wahms ya twice as they say down Maine.


I believe Jim mentioned 10 cords (that term is pretty meaningless to 
me, other than a lot) of wood... 



Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D - is it worth it?

2007-03-23 Thread LarryT
The early 40 horse VW Vans had liesurely acceleration usually measured in 
furlongs per fortnight.  Accelerating onto a Interstate on ramp that was 
slightly uphill was a terrifying experience - watching the traffic bearing 
down from behind and the end of the merge lane approaching from ahead, 
AAA!!  Please let me in!!!


Now, they have become collector vehicles - as the original minivan.  I still 
think about that VW van in the vide passing the Porsche 993!  With 
aerodynamics like that van it must have had a huge amount of hp/torque.


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The real early vans had the same engine as the bug, so 40hp.

-Curt

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One sort of learns to anticipate and drive accordingly. I don't
think that I really hold up traffic or cause myself or anyone else a
danger when I drive my old non turbo 300D.


Supposedly the worst were the diesel VW vans.  Something like 48 hp?

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Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D - is it worth it?

2007-03-23 Thread Gary Hurst

a lot of people don't grasp how fast the driving is here.  triple
digit speeds are not unusual, but it has slowed down quite a bit over
the past few years.

On 3/21/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The roads are pretty much the same as they were in 1983 - I remember
cruising along at 80 MPH back then. But then I don't live in Atlanta, where
there are 2 speeds on the bypass, 100 MPH  slow enough to walk beside a car
as its traveling down the highway..

Thanks,
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i don't know how driveable a 240D is on modern roads.

On 3/21/07, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My mechanic here has a 1982 240D with 220Kmi on the chassis, 150Kmi on the
 engine that he just put in, manual tranny, body has no rust on it. He says
 it's ready to roll with no mechanical issues.  Burgundy with tan Tex
 interior.

 Ceteris paribus, is it worth the $3000 he wants for it?  I know that
value
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Wood Splitters

2007-03-23 Thread R A Bennell
Should be able to build a pretty decent one for less. My father built a fairly 
stout unit something like 25 years
ago and we still have it at the cottage. Would send you a photo if it wasn't 
180 miles away. Basically built of
scrap and surplus parts and powered by an 8HP BS. Has split a lot of wood in 
its time but currently needs some
TLC. Motor is getting to where it does not run well. Planning a carb rebuild to 
begin with. Bought a new steel tank
to serve as the resevoir for the oil. Thought about using an expired 20# 
propane tank but did not trust my welding
abilities enough to prevent leakage as it would need a second fitting installed 
somewhere.

Randy

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 Elm has interlocking grain and doesn't split worth diddly -- will take
 huge power.  Oak, maple, poplar, etc will split easily without much
 need for umph except around knots.

Around here it's pine, with the occasional treat of fir!
Cycle time is an issue when you're splitting 10 cords/year
for your own purposes.  We're getting the rounds free from
a local tree service.

The nice ones on-line were something like $3-4k, way out
of my budget.  I've been looking for a decent used one for
years.  Pretty thin on the ground.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Wood Splitters

2007-03-23 Thread Tom Hargrave
10 cords, each measuring 8' long by 4' tall by 4' deep.

I'll burn 2 - 3 cords at the house every winter. I hand split my wood
one winter -  I know I spent 4 hours / week for at least 3
months

But I guess it was good for me.

Tom Hargrave
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Rich Thomas wrote:
 You guys are total wimps.  Big sledge hammer and a wedge, or a maul.  
 It wahms ya twice as they say down Maine.

I believe Jim mentioned 10 cords (that term is pretty meaningless to 
me, other than a lot) of wood... 

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Wood Splitters

2007-03-23 Thread Rich Thomas
Then he will be an extremely manly man when he is done!  With those 
splitters you still have to move 10 cords around, put the big chunks on 
the splitter (a couple of times since they usually just split one way), 
which usually sits kinda low so you are bending over, or if higher 
lifting stuff up, then move the split pieces and stack them.  The 
splitting is the fun part of the whole ordeal.  I put in my time 
splitting wood up in Mass, saved a lot of heating oil money (and 
minimized my carbon footprint, or airprint, or whatever it was, even 
before the Goreacle told me I really needed to do it for my 20,000 ft2 
house!).


--R

John Robbins wrote:

Rich Thomas wrote:
  
You guys are total wimps.  Big sledge hammer and a wedge, or a maul.  
It wahms ya twice as they say down Maine.



I believe Jim mentioned 10 cords (that term is pretty meaningless to 
me, other than a lot) of wood... 



  


Re: [MBZ] OT: Wood Splitters

2007-03-23 Thread Curt Raymond

So does a manual splitter... However I only use the manual splitter for stuff 
that I can't split with 5 of 6 whacks of the axe.
Yes axe, a maul just wears you out faster, a good splitting axe is the way to 
go.

-Curt

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You guys are total wimps.  Big sledge hammer and a wedge, or a maul.  
It wahms ya twice as they say down Maine.

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1280 cubic feet...

I burned about a cord this year but I only had 1 1/2 cord for supply.
I've also only got a 900sqft house. Burned something like 350 gallons of oil.
Next year I'm aiming for 3 cords (128 cubic feet per cord) and get the oil down 
to 200 gallons or less.
I've got a friend who lets me cut his trees for free so its sweat equity.

-Curt

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Rich Thomas wrote:
 You guys are total wimps.  Big sledge hammer and a wedge, or a maul.  
 It wahms ya twice as they say down Maine.

I believe Jim mentioned 10 cords (that term is pretty meaningless to 
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I know this clogs up the mail list, but in this case I really want to 
get out the info, cause 

Re: [MBZ] OT Dog food warning

2007-03-23 Thread Christopher McCann
Rich,

I'm really sorry to hear that. I would angry as hell to see my dogs go through 
that. We just feed Eukanuba dry food (I add water), so I think I'm OK as I 
THINK all the recalls have been on canned food.

Again, I'm really sorry to hear that. Hopefully you'll be able to get in on a 
class action suit, but that doesn't bring your dog back...or help your 
surviving dog with any lingering after effects, if there are any.

Chris



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get out the info, cause this is a real serious problem ---

So I just saw now that they think the stuff killing pets is rat poison 
that was in Chinese wheat used to make the food.  Our 10 yr old dog died 
about 6 weeks ago, miserably, from massive internal bleeding.  Despite 
the best care we could get her she still did not make it.  Our other dog 
(2yo) was sick about the same time but got better after going on some 
other food.  Vet had asked if they had gotten into any rat poison as 
that kind of bleeding is a symptom, and both being sick at the same 
time.  Now I see that the canned stuff I mixed in with their food, and 
bought new from the store (Safeway Priority brand) just before that 
time, was made by this company.

I think that sh*t killed her.  Damn.

Anyone else have anything happen to their animals?  Clean out your pantry...

--R


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Hi Rich,
I'm so sad to hear of your loss.  Our 2 little girls are so close it;s hard 
to imagine them dieing in such a terrible way.  It must have been very hard 
on you seeing both of them sick.  I wonder if there'll be some class-action 
lawsuit?  Typically I'm against law suits - but when a foreign govt like 
China takes advantage of us I think they should be punished.  They probably 
get by with very little oversight on their facilities - and their use of 
prison labor makes their products unfairly underpriced.

Anyway, the primary problem is your loss - We've used LifeScience hard food 
for our 2 and have seen good results.  Also, they have several variants for 
different situations.

Again, sorry to hear of your loss.  I'm your other dog is healthy!

Take care - have a nice weekend -

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Re: [MBZ] OT Dog food warning

2007-03-23 Thread degcoast
Rich,
I too am really sorry about hear about your dogs.  As a dog lover-my 240D is 
known as the dog taxi, as I haul our two rescued Goldens in it, I find this so 
hard to take.  I do hope your younger one is OK.  Maybe some tighter controls 
will come out of this. Thanks for warning us and giving us info that I have not 
seen in the media.
Take care, 
Dwight Giles
 Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 I know this clogs up the mail list, but in this case I really want to 
 get out the info, cause this is a real serious problem ---
 
 So I just saw now that they think the stuff killing pets is rat poison 
 that was in Chinese wheat used to make the food.  Our 10 yr old dog died 
 about 6 weeks ago, miserably, from massive internal bleeding.  Despite 
 the best care we could get her she still did not make it.  Our other dog 
 (2yo) was sick about the same time but got better after going on some 
 other food.  Vet had asked if they had gotten into any rat poison as 
 that kind of bleeding is a symptom, and both being sick at the same 
 time.  Now I see that the canned stuff I mixed in with their food, and 
 bought new from the store (Safeway Priority brand) just before that 
 time, was made by this company.
 
 I think that sh*t killed her.  Damn.
 
 Anyone else have anything happen to their animals?  Clean out your pantry...
 
 --R
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Dog food warning

2007-03-23 Thread Rich Thomas
Thanks all for the kind words.  Losing a dedicated companion animal of 
many years is hard but life goes on.  Y'all just make sure none of this 
stuff is in your house.


Here is a link to the recalled items, but I think there are more brands 
than what is listed.  I had Safeway stuff, not on this list, but it was 
pulled.


http://www.menufoods.com/recall/product_dog.html

--R
  





Re: [MBZ] OT Dog food warning

2007-03-23 Thread andrew strasfogel

Our three cats only eat Trader Joe's and Naturalife, none of which contain
byproducts.  I wonder whether there are labeling requirements for country of
origin?  I never checked but will do so when I get home...

On 3/23/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Rich,
I too am really sorry about hear about your dogs.  As a dog lover-my 240D
is known as the dog taxi, as I haul our two rescued Goldens in it, I find
this so hard to take.  I do hope your younger one is OK.  Maybe some tighter
controls will come out of this. Thanks for warning us and giving us info
that I have not seen in the media.
Take care,
Dwight Giles
 Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I know this clogs up the mail list, but in this case I really want to
 get out the info, cause this is a real serious problem ---

 So I just saw now that they think the stuff killing pets is rat poison
 that was in Chinese wheat used to make the food.  Our 10 yr old dog died
 about 6 weeks ago, miserably, from massive internal bleeding.  Despite
 the best care we could get her she still did not make it.  Our other dog
 (2yo) was sick about the same time but got better after going on some
 other food.  Vet had asked if they had gotten into any rat poison as
 that kind of bleeding is a symptom, and both being sick at the same
 time.  Now I see that the canned stuff I mixed in with their food, and
 bought new from the store (Safeway Priority brand) just before that
 time, was made by this company.

 I think that sh*t killed her.  Damn.

 Anyone else have anything happen to their animals?  Clean out your
pantry...

 --R


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Wood Splitters

2007-03-23 Thread Loren Faeth



Jim,



Check out Northerntool.com  They sell complete units and all the pieces to 
build one yourself.  The heart of it is a 2-stage hydraulic pump.  I have 
bought 3 of those pumps over  the years to upgrade and power the family's 
old 36' cider press.  it powers an 8 cylinder and creates 200,000 lbs of 
pressure.  The shaft speed has to be calculated in minutes per inch of 
travel on high pressure and inches per minute on low pressure.  Log 
splitter need fast cycle times, thus the t stage pump.


you can power the pump by your unimog pto or a motor the next piece is a 3 
or 4 inch hydraulic cylinder.  The rest you can build from scrap.



Loren Faeth 





Re: [MBZ] OT Tiger

2007-03-23 Thread Redghost
So, Instead of busting the eMac apart to get at the drive, I just use a 
Firewire drive (had to use firewire DVD to install to the eMac) and 
install to that?


On Mar 23, 2007, at 6:17 AM, Peter Frederick wrote:


Jim:

Depends -- the eMac disks MAY allow you to install direct.  Otherwise,
I would do either the firewire adapter install (connect the disk to the
eMac via the firewire port) or install the drive in the eMac and then
swap again.

USB won't work unless e eMac supports bootable USB devices.

Peter


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Re: [MBZ] First gullible replies

2007-03-23 Thread Redghost
Reminds me of the scene in V for Vendetta with the benny hill chase 
scene about the studio


On Mar 23, 2007, at 7:11 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote:

Speaking of Benny Hill, does anyone watch Extras on HBO with Ricky 
Gervais,
original star of The Office?  The latest episodes feature a faux 
Briish TV

sitcom that is so appalingly bad it is actually funny.  It features the
catch phrase Are we havin' a laugh?.  The irony is that the show is a
commercial successful despite getting panned by critics and everyone 
in the

artistic community. Just thinking about it cracks me up.



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Benny Hill wasn't funny? I thought the 'she has Herbie's ring' bit was
great.

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The reason I didn't get it, is because it is not funny.
Well, it may be funny to certain people but I fail to see the wit.

Perhaps

if they had some canned laughter to go with it.
To put it into some perspective Fawlty Towers is funny, Benny Hill is

not

but I watched it because of the ladies nonetheless.





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[MBZ] OT: Shameless selling-- tractor, Caddy, boat

2007-03-23 Thread Rich Thomas
OK today I am dealing with random items, including the local building 
inspector but that is a whole nother PITA.  I am liquidating my dad's 
stuff, another PITA.  Anyway, I wondered if any of you might be 
interested in the following:


John Deere 655 3cyl diesel tractor 4x4, with mower, roto-tiller, plow, 
leaf vac, trailer.  Here is info 
http://www.tractordata.com/td/td128.html  I see some advertised on the 
net for $US6500, seems a reasonable price.  I wish I had some need for 
this or a place to put it, it's lots of fun.


Alumacraft boat/trailer, 18ft or so, some sort of motor I don't recall, 
maybe 100hp or so.  Has a place to sit in front, you walk through the 
windshield.  Outiftted for fishing with depth/fish finders and trolling 
motor(s?).  Used a few times, been sitting covered in the barn for 
years, looks brand new.  If it was fiberglass I would have it here in TX 
in no time.  No idea what this might be worth -- $8-10k?


1998 Cadillac Sedan deVille, dk blue, 53k miles, looks new, always 
dealer serviced, new tires, leather, loaded, very nice ride but not 
quite my style.  Northstar engine moves it with alacrity.  This one 
popped up on a search for $8500, quite similar  
http://www.carsearch.com/ad.html?v=764192  Drove it last week, runs very 
well.


This stuff is in Western KY.   I make a good deal to a deserving new 
owner, could arrange transport I suppose.


--R




Re: [MBZ] OT Dog food warning

2007-03-23 Thread Redghost
I grieve for the passing of a member of your family.  A truly terrible 
thing to witness.


On a darker note.  Might have been a ploy by the Chinese to poison 
older americans who must subsist on canned food.



On Mar 23, 2007, at 11:33 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Rich,
I too am really sorry about hear about your dogs.  As a dog lover-my 
240D is known as the dog taxi, as I haul our two rescued Goldens in 
it, I find this so hard to take.  I do hope your younger one is OK.  
Maybe some tighter controls will come out of this. Thanks for warning 
us and giving us info that I have not seen in the media.

Take care,
Dwight Giles
 Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I know this clogs up the mail list, but in this case I really want to
get out the info, cause this is a real serious problem ---

So I just saw now that they think the stuff killing pets is rat poison
that was in Chinese wheat used to make the food.  Our 10 yr old dog 
died

about 6 weeks ago, miserably, from massive internal bleeding.  Despite
the best care we could get her she still did not make it.  Our other 
dog

(2yo) was sick about the same time but got better after going on some
other food.  Vet had asked if they had gotten into any rat poison as
that kind of bleeding is a symptom, and both being sick at the same
time.  Now I see that the canned stuff I mixed in with their food, and
bought new from the store (Safeway Priority brand) just before that
time, was made by this company.

I think that sh*t killed her.  Damn.

Anyone else have anything happen to their animals?  Clean out your 
pantry...


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Re: [MBZ] Correction: was 240D is it worth it

2007-03-23 Thread OK Don

Hey - that was months ago. We didn't think you held onto cars that long! ;-)

On 3/23/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

crap, I thought everyone already knew about that SDL of mine, I posted
pics when I got it.  Im really attatched to it.



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Re: [MBZ] When to use Mobil 1 after engine rebuild

2007-03-23 Thread OK Don

The MB reman 617 engine that I bought had instructions to change the
oil at 500 miles. I think that's a good indication, and corroborates
Peter's recommendation.

On 3/23/07, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

No more than 500 miles.  Make sure you do some full throttle high load
runs (steep hills in high gear) first -- this polishes the cylinders a
bit and seats the rings.  If you don't, oil consumption may stay high
for a long time, MB cylinder walls are fairly hard, and they don't use
scraper rings.

Change the filter at the same time.

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Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D - is it worth it?

2007-03-23 Thread OK Don

My mother's deluxe microbus had the 36HP engine. She hated it from the
day Dad brought it home due to the low power.

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The early 40 horse VW Vans had liesurely acceleration usually measured in
furlongs per fortnight.  Accelerating onto a Interstate on ramp that was
slightly uphill was a terrifying experience - watching the traffic bearing
down from behind and the end of the merge lane approaching from ahead,
AAA!!  Please let me in!!!



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Re: [MBZ] Gullible

2007-03-23 Thread RELNGSON
 The reason I didn't get it, is because it is not funny. Well, it may be 
 funny to certain people but I fail to see the wit. Perhaps if they had some 
 canned laughter to go with it. To put it into some perspective Fawlty Towers 
 is 
 funny,.
 
Since it's a New Zealand site (I'm sure you noticed that) why don't you row 
over there and give them a good wigging, then?

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Wood Splitters

2007-03-23 Thread Curt Raymond

If its good straight wood I can split about half a cord in 8 hours.
After that I need to rest for a couple days...

My wife and I together using the manual splitter can cut split and stack a 
quarter cord (approximately, whatever fits in one pickup load anyway)
in about 4 hours which I think is pretty impressive.
Memorial Day weekend at camp we're going to try to put up 2 full cords. We've 
got 87 acres in Maine, just cutting the deadwood I think we could pull 2 cords 
a year forever.

-Curt

Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 11:47:54 -0500
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10 cords, each measuring 8' long by 4' tall by 4' deep.

I'll burn 2 - 3 cords at the house every winter. I hand split my wood
one winter -  I know I spent 4 hours / week for at least 3
months

But I guess it was good for me.

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Guy at work is concerned thats happening to his dog right now. I can't believe 
we haven't put a ban on Chineese wheat yet...

-Curt

Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 12:28:34 -0600
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I know this clogs up the mail list, but in this case I really want to 
get out the info, cause this is a real serious problem ---

So I just saw now that they think the stuff killing pets is rat poison 
that was in Chinese wheat used to make the food.  Our 10 yr old dog 
died 
about 6 weeks ago, miserably, from massive internal bleeding.  Despite 
the best care we could get her she still did not make it.  Our other 
dog 
(2yo) was sick about the same time but got better after going on some 
other food.  Vet had asked if they had gotten into any rat poison as 
that kind of bleeding is a symptom, and both being sick at the same 
time.  Now I see that the canned stuff I mixed in with their food, and 
bought new from the store (Safeway Priority brand) just before that 
time, was made by this company.

I think that sh*t killed her.  Damn.

Anyone else have anything happen to their animals?  Clean out your 
pantry...

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Re: [MBZ] rat poison

2007-03-23 Thread RELNGSON
 The stuff was like Cuts in Gravy or something similar, used wheat 
 gluten
 for thickening, from this Chinese wheat that had rat poison.
 
The poison has now been identified as one not approved or used here so the 
Chinese supplier is on the hook. Maybe the Canadian manufacturer will source 
the 
gluten elsewhere from now on.

A local attorney has filed a class action suit here.

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Re: [MBZ] Emac to ?

2007-03-23 Thread RELNGSON
 So, Instead of busting the eMac apart to get at the drive, I just use a
 Firewire drive (had to use firewire DVD to install to the eMac) and
 install to that?
 
 
You are not thinking of putting the emac drive into a laptop, I assume, since 
it won't fit unless you flatten it a bit with your car. The connector cable 
using target disk mode has worked for me.

You can also ask the Genius desk at the Apple store what to do and they will 
tell you. No purchase or Applecare needed.

You can make an appointment online since they are busy.

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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 16, Issue 97

2007-03-23 Thread Redghost

Roger,

I have to upgrade to a 30 gig 2.5 anyway, so I was going to use a 
converter, stick it in the eMac and install that way.  Or use a 
firewire box and target disk mode




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So, Instead of busting the eMac apart to get at the drive, I just 
use a

Firewire drive (had to use firewire DVD to install to the eMac) and
install to that?

You are not thinking of putting the emac drive into a laptop, I 
assume, since
it won't fit unless you flatten it a bit with your car. The connector 
cable

using target disk mode has worked for me.

You can also ask the Genius desk at the Apple store what to do and 
they will

tell you. No purchase or Applecare needed.

You can make an appointment online since they are busy.

RLE





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