Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review
Nicely encapsulated, Alex. Even NEW VW diesels are suffering from the craze. Such a disprepancy between the price of the gasser and the diesel. We took a hit buying our high mileage 190D at 4300 bucks. Your mention of a diesel accord struck me. Love it. I tell you, we are in diesel territory here on Bainbridge Island, WA. You can pretty much assume that when you see a set of VW headlights (even beetle) that you will soon hear the accompanying mild klatta. And often with the required biodiesel sticker. And there are so many 123s that we don't even nod at eachother as we pass. BUT, I, so far have the only 190 diesel that I have seen here. A fair amount of 190Es though. Brian Alex wrote: It's true, though. I don't think you fellows in the rest of the country understand quite how crazy the Mercedes diesel market is here in the Pacific Northwest. A few factors in combination---the discovery of biofuels by the granola culture (no offense intended as I'm kind of one myself), the old-car culture that already had a solid presence (thanks to our mild climate and unsalted roads), and the fact that there have always been more furrin than domestic cars on the West Coast---have created a perfect storm for 123 desirability. It's like the tulip mania in 17th-century Holland. Sell your 240D here while you can and retire on the proceeds! The upside, of course, is that for every boom there's a bust. In a couple of years when a wide selection of new cars designed to run on ULSD are on the market, all the flower children will be trading their 300Ds for diesel Accords, and the former will be available dirt cheap. Sadly, I suspect many of them will be in dire condition and need a lot of TLC. Judging by the number of 123 wagons I see dragging ass around town with blown SLS systems, many of the bio-crazy purchasers of Benzes are out of their depth, with neither the will nor the cash to take proper care of an old car. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Anybody watch Mythbusters? Just tested WVO in SD
I have gotten to really like this show on Discovery channel. Now that this channel is included in my limited basic cable package. They just were testing fuel mileage myths. They tested several wacky contraptions they found - mostly on the net - that were supposed to improve MPG. I think only one worked and improved 6%. But later they tested the myth that a diesel can run on discarded cooking oil. They used an SD. They just filtered it (wish they told us how) and ran it out of a translucent plastic jug they mounted up by the windshield. They were quite surprised that with no car modifications it could run the car. It got 30 mpg at a steady 35 mph - compared to 33 mpg with dino. Also, it's amazing to me that sometimes automotive knowledge can be so separate from other engineering knowledge. These are two very knowledgeable guys in lots of different areas of engineering, but neither of them could find the fuel line on a couple of different cars. Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody watch Mythbusters? Just tested WVO in SD
Also: Kaleb: just a note to let you know that somehow I seem to have been removed from the biodiesel list. What should I do to rectify this? Brian On 7/11/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have gotten to really like this show on Discovery channel. Now that this channel is included in my limited basic cable package. They just were testing fuel mileage myths. They tested several wacky contraptions they found - mostly on the net - that were supposed to improve MPG. I think only one worked and improved 6%. But later they tested the myth that a diesel can run on discarded cooking oil. They used an SD. They just filtered it (wish they told us how) and ran it out of a translucent plastic jug they mounted up by the windshield. They were quite surprised that with no car modifications it could run the car. It got 30 mpg at a steady 35 mph - compared to 33 mpg with dino. Also, it's amazing to me that sometimes automotive knowledge can be so separate from other engineering knowledge. These are two very knowledgeable guys in lots of different areas of engineering, but neither of them could find the fuel line on a couple of different cars. Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM617 conversion to generator
South Africa, Europe, Africa, and Australia run on 50hz Not sure about China and Russa PEter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 July 2007 15:27 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM617 conversion to generator Peter, Where are you that you need 50Hz? Mike I only need about 10kw at 50Hz so that's no problem at 3000 rpm. In fact might be able to run it at 1500 rpm and keep the noise down although I'm not sure in the engine will be happy at those rpm's continiously. Doe you think you can modify the existing idle governer to work at 1500 rpm? Peter -Original Message- From: LWB250 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 July 2007 13:24 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM617 conversion to generator The stock 617 would do it, but you're going to need some sort of governor, either mechanical or electronic (isochronous) to regulate the speed. Also, unless you're coupling it to the generator (alternator) with a gear or belt drive, the engine is going to have to run at 1800/3600 rpm of 60 Hz, 1500/3000 rpm for 50Hz. Check the horsepower curves for hosepower at these speeds - that will give you an idea of how many kW you can get out of the engine. Dan (former generator guy) --- Peter Merle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are starting to have several power outages where I stay and I was wondering about getting a spare OM617 ( non turbo ) and hooking it up to an alternator and powering my home . It is a bit of overkill but it also servers the purpose of having a hot standby OM617 on call. ( I have 3 other vehicles with this engine.) The problem I foresee is how to govern the engine to run at a constant 3000 rpm in order to maintain a stable voltage and frequency under varying load. Can the existing MW pump be converted to operate in constant rpm mode? Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __ __ Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/norton/index.php ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] REALLY nice 220D
Oh how I want this auto. The only thing I don't like about it is the blue MB tex. Just don't like MB tex in blue. Funny how this older model has english readings, yet newer models have metric readings (temp and oil pressure). Brian On 7/11/07, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cool! And the colour of my very first car. The shift on the tree is pretty funky too. :-) Ed 300E On 11/07/07, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=160134919405 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody watch Mythbusters? Just tested WVO in SD
Yes but are they really knowledable or just a couple of actors playing the part? It's one thing to read a script but quite another to know something about what goes on under the bonnet of a car. Sort of like when the nasty aliens actually invade earth, are Bruce Willis, Arnie, Mel Gibson and Co going to get together and beat then back? - Original Message - From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 3:38 PM Subject: [MBZ] Anybody watch Mythbusters? Just tested WVO in SD Also, it's amazing to me that sometimes automotive knowledge can be so separate from other engineering knowledge. These are two very knowledgeable guys in lots of different areas of engineering, but neither of them could find the fuel line on a couple of different cars. Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] REALLY nice 220D
Yeah, be a bit freaky if you are used to celcius. - Original Message - From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] REALLY nice 220D Funny how this older model has english readings, yet newer models have metric readings (temp and oil pressure). Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] REALLY nice 220D
You no likey blue interior? How about his? More to your taste? WARNING---PURISTS DO NOT LOOK---WARNING--- MAY PAY TO COVER KEYBOARD WITH A PROTECTIVE PLASTIC COVER http://cgi.ebay.com.au/MERCEDES-300SEL_W0QQitemZ220129370993QQihZ012QQcategoryZ135586QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Be pretty cool dropping the kids off at school in that with the boom box at full blast. - Original Message - From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] REALLY nice 220D Oh how I want this auto. The only thing I don't like about it is the blue MB tex. Just don't like MB tex in blue. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody watch Mythbusters? Just tested WVO in SD
I think the best example of an expert that couldn't really do stuff is Bob Vila. I was often amazed at how much of a noob he was at home improvement stuff. Jeff Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review
On 12/07/07, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok boys, 3 drivers, NO garage OR flat concrete to work on, 5 123's (3 D, CD, TD) , 300SDL, and the BioBeast. We used to DREAM of living in a corridor! Jeff Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] REALLY nice 220D
YO! A donked Benz! --R Hendrik Riessen wrote: You no likey blue interior? How about his? More to your taste? WARNING---PURISTS DO NOT LOOK---WARNING--- MAY PAY TO COVER KEYBOARD WITH A PROTECTIVE PLASTIC COVER http://cgi.ebay.com.au/MERCEDES-300SEL_W0QQitemZ220129370993QQihZ012QQcategoryZ135586QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Be pretty cool dropping the kids off at school in that with the boom box at full blast. - Original Message - From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] REALLY nice 220D Oh how I want this auto. The only thing I don't like about it is the blue MB tex. Just don't like MB tex in blue. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] IowaQ
My darling wife thinks I should do that, though she doesn't want me to drive, so no MB with me. Will follow the thread and see how our lives go. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 291k -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 10:17 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List; Banned List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] IowaQ How many would be interested in coming to west-central Iowa in August/September for a get-together? (Jefferson, Iowa) Kleb's apparently not doing an OkieQ this year, so this would be same thing (sans junkyard-backyard) except eight hour north on I-35. I will go with the Biblical model in scheduling: Where three or four are gathered together . -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody watch Mythbusters? Just tested WVO in SD
Hendrik Riessen wrote: Yes but are they really knowledable or just a couple of actors playing the part? You can only be an expert at so many things... and they do build and design lots of stuff on their own. They also weren't actors in their work before Mythbusters... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] REALLY nice 220D
Hendrik Riessen wrote: You no likey blue interior? How about his? More to your taste? WARNING---PURISTS DO NOT LOOK---WARNING--- MAY PAY TO COVER KEYBOARD WITH A PROTECTIVE PLASTIC COVER http://cgi.ebay.com.au/MERCEDES-300SEL_W0QQitemZ220129370993QQihZ012QQcategoryZ135586QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Be pretty cool dropping the kids off at school in that with the boom box at full blast. Wow. Whoever did that had Mad Skillz but no taste... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Generator heads [was: Re: OM617 conversion to generator]
Note that you could hook a double-U jointed driveshaft to the generator and engine, but you'd probably break keyways and other such things from the lack of torsional resiliency (something I learned when I designed and made our generator). If you're parting out a MBZ for your engine, you can use a flex disk. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] REALLY nice 220D
Quite an artist but not my style. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Robbins Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 8:07 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] REALLY nice 220D Hendrik Riessen wrote: You no likey blue interior? How about his? More to your taste? WARNING---PURISTS DO NOT LOOK---WARNING--- MAY PAY TO COVER KEYBOARD WITH A PROTECTIVE PLASTIC COVER http://cgi.ebay.com.au/MERCEDES-300SEL_W0QQitemZ220129370993QQihZ012QQcatego ryZ135586QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Be pretty cool dropping the kids off at school in that with the boom box at full blast. Wow. Whoever did that had Mad Skillz but no taste... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody watch Mythbusters? Just tested WVO in SD
I've been running 100% WVO in my 87SDL since April with no mods whatsoever to the car. There is a bit of hesitation when you accelerate until it gets warmed up. More so on cold mornings. -Dave Walton On 7/12/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have gotten to really like this show on Discovery channel. Now that this channel is included in my limited basic cable package. They just were testing fuel mileage myths. They tested several wacky contraptions they found - mostly on the net - that were supposed to improve MPG. I think only one worked and improved 6%. But later they tested the myth that a diesel can run on discarded cooking oil. They used an SD. They just filtered it (wish they told us how) and ran it out of a translucent plastic jug they mounted up by the windshield. They were quite surprised that with no car modifications it could run the car. It got 30 mpg at a steady 35 mph - compared to 33 mpg with dino. Also, it's amazing to me that sometimes automotive knowledge can be so separate from other engineering knowledge. These are two very knowledgeable guys in lots of different areas of engineering, but neither of them could find the fuel line on a couple of different cars. Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] REALLY nice 220D
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/ eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=160134919405 Oh how I want this auto. The only thing I don't like about it is the blue MB tex. Just don't like MB tex in blue. Nice car. But I can think of some 6500 reasons to like the Frankenheap better! WARNING---PURISTS DO NOT LOOK---WARNING--- MAY PAY TO COVER KEYBOARD WITH A PROTECTIVE PLASTIC COVER http://cgi.ebay.com.au/MERCEDES- 300SEL_W0QQitemZ220129370993QQihZ012QQcategoryZ135586QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewIt em Oh my! There's a real money loser, that kind of customization is _never_ recouped. Not many people want a car with somebody else's friends' pictures painted on the side. Not many people want purple crush interiors, either. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM617 conversion to generator
Luther wrote: If the engine is provided (MB), what are the best brands for gen head only? Say in the 15-25kw range? How about the 3-7kw range? There was an article in Homepower a few years ago about an old fellow who rewired old industrial electric motors for wind driven generators. Beats paying Grainger prices for the two pole gen heads I found there. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM617 conversion to generator
There was an article in Homepower a few years ago about an old fellow who rewired old industrial electric motors for wind driven generators. Beats paying Grainger prices for the two pole gen heads I found there. My surplus MD3 was $100, and is a double-ended synchronous machine at about 25kW a side. One side 400 Hz and one 60 Hz. Probably an easier starting point if you're going to go to that much trouble. 1200 RPM, too. Will I ever get to it?... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] IowaQ
Karl McCann is due August 24...outside of that, I'll be there, probably with Mary and Kate in tow. Will leave the Shepherds at home. :-) With 30,000 mile maintenance just done, I am dying for a road trip. Chris Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How many would be interested in coming to west-central Iowa in August/September for a get-together? (Jefferson, Iowa) Kleb's apparently not doing an OkieQ this year, so this would be same thing (sans junkyard-backyard) except eight hour north on I-35. I will go with the Biblical model in scheduling: Where three or four are gathered together . -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Christopher McCann, happy customer of austerlitzshepherds.com Ohne Zucht keine Leistung, ohne Leistung keine Zucht! -2006 GSD, Anke (Yanke von der Burg Austerlitz) -2006 GSD, Sammy (Zane von der Burg Austerlitz) Freude an der Arbeit: Hoechste Leistung - Mercedes-Benz. -1985 300SD, 223K miles, Wulf -1982 300Dt, 118K miles, little blue klatter box - We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM617 conversion to generator
Thanks Peter. Mike South Africa, Europe, Africa, and Australia run on 50hz Not sure about China and Russa PEter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 July 2007 15:27 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM617 conversion to generator Peter, Where are you that you need 50Hz? Mike I only need about 10kw at 50Hz so that's no problem at 3000 rpm. In fact might be able to run it at 1500 rpm and keep the noise down although I'm not sure in the engine will be happy at those rpm's continiously. Doe you think you can modify the existing idle governer to work at 1500 rpm? Peter -Original Message- From: LWB250 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 July 2007 13:24 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM617 conversion to generator The stock 617 would do it, but you're going to need some sort of governor, either mechanical or electronic (isochronous) to regulate the speed. Also, unless you're coupling it to the generator (alternator) with a gear or belt drive, the engine is going to have to run at 1800/3600 rpm of 60 Hz, 1500/3000 rpm for 50Hz. Check the horsepower curves for hosepower at these speeds - that will give you an idea of how many kW you can get out of the engine. Dan (former generator guy) --- Peter Merle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are starting to have several power outages where I stay and I was wondering about getting a spare OM617 ( non turbo ) and hooking it up to an alternator and powering my home . It is a bit of overkill but it also servers the purpose of having a hot standby OM617 on call. ( I have 3 other vehicles with this engine.) The problem I foresee is how to govern the engine to run at a constant 3000 rpm in order to maintain a stable voltage and frequency under varying load. Can the existing MW pump be converted to operate in constant rpm mode? Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __ __ Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/norton/index.php ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review
Man I'd like to find a diesel Quantum some day. I know where theres a diesel Dasher (which I think is basically the same car) but its been sitting for at least 10 years and the son of the lady who owns it totalled my parents cars a few years ago so we're not really on speaking terms. -Curt Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:25:30 -0500 From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Point taken. Allow me to rephrase. With a three car garage and three drivers, I have: Wife's Buick Regal, her car and what she likes. Frigid AC (her basic requirement). Daughter's Chevy Cavalier, bought and paid for out of her checkbook -- she loves it. My '77 W123 (my baby) My '82 VW Quantum diesel, a true beater but 50 mpg, my fun car. My '72 Honda motorcycle. One moped. Seven bicycles. Now, why would I want another vehicle on my insurance policy, even if it is a W123? - Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Generator heads [was: Re: OM617 conversion to generator]
The ST heads are AWESOME! They can run for years without problem. Generally nothing more required than a set of brushes now and again and regular lubrication. Mike On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:39:02 -0700 (PDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you want to get serious here ya go... http://utterpower.com/ST.htm Mike Yup, that looks serious, all right! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Hauling calves in a Benz [was Re: Is this Curt and his new 190? Or is it Marshall?]
Very good story Craig!! I can relate to ALMOST every part of it at one time or another. Mike On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 10:50:23 -0600 Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20070711/46bf684c/attachment.jpg You may laugh, but I actually did transport two calves that way. A humorous story in its own right, if anyone wants to hear it. Well, I guess people do want to hear it. OK, then. When Shirley and I lived in Colorado Springs in the early '80s, I was working for Hewlett-Packard. We lived, first, in town. For some reason, the neighborhood we lived in was a noisy one, with people thinking that everyone wanted to listen to the type of music they did and taking offense if asked to turn it down a little. We had enough of that and decided to move to the Black Forest area, north of town. While there, we raised a couple of calves, borrowing a friends horse trailer to tow behind our Willys Utility Wagon. We found, after a couple of years, that unremitting shade from pine trees got more than a little old and, here, too, people were inconsiderate of their neighbors, eventhough the neighbors were farther away from each other. Since they were out in the country, people just turned up their radios. Shirley had an uncle living on a farm in Nebraska, who we had visited a number of times. I liked the living and the environs and Shirley did, too. We finally found a place in spring '83, four miles south of the town of Calhan, Colorado, which is on Highway 24 between Colorado Springs and Limon. The place was 80 acres of unimproved land that had been planted in winter wheat. The nearest building was a microwave tower, about 3/4 mile away, and that was unoccupied. We could see a house to the east-southeast a little over a mile away, and the house of people who became good friends to the south-east a mile-and-a-half away. The land was on the mesa south of Calhan, several hundred feet higher than Calhan and at an elevation of almost 7000'. (Calhan is known as the Highest non-mountainous town in the US.) We bought and moved our Little Mobile Home on the Praire out onthe land, without well, without septic, and without power. Therein began 6 years of interesting adventures, about which we could, and probably should, write a book. We did get a septic tank put in and connected and did get a well put in -- that was 523' deep instead of the estimated 300' and blew our budget for quite a while. I'll cut this very short and skip to the incident in question. The situation is set up by knowing that Hewlett-Packard gave its employees Good Friday off every year and that the Calhan Livestock Auction held auctions on Fridays ... One particular Good Friday, I drove down to the Auction in our '72 220D to watch the proceedings. The weather was overcast, but decent. In watching all the animals being auctioned, I decided that it was time to have calves again (they do better in pairs). I figured I could make a shelter for them with a large tarp and our tractor that would do until I could go into Colorado Springs and get materials to make a better one. So, I bought two calves. At the end of the auction, I went outside to move the car so they could be loaded. I noticed that the weather had deteriorated considerably. Hmmm ... So, I backed up the car, opened the trunk, and told the fellow to load them in. They were just a couple of months old, perhaps 80 pounds. No problem for the W115 trunk (which, by the way, is noticably larger than that of W123s). I got the calves loaded and drove up the hill to home. I parked next to the mobile home and went inside. By this time, a real blizzard was starting, with high winds, lots of snow, and all. I put some black plastic down in the bathroom and told Shirley she needed to put on her coat and help me get some calves that I had just bought out of the trunk of the car. She put her coat on and came outside with me. Standing by the trunk, I told her, I'll open the trunk and grab one. You keep the other one in the trunk. She agreed that's what she would do. So, I opened the trunk. She cried out in surprise, There are calves in there! and just stood there. I grabbed a calf and over the wind yelled, What do you think I've been telling you? Now hold that one! I got the first calf out and we closed the trunk lid without the other calf escaping. We dragged the calf over to the mobile home and up the stairs and inside. We were all covered by snow and ice. I took the calf to the bathroom, which was next to the bedroom at the far end of the mobile home, and shut the door. Going outside, we repeated the process, this time without the incredulity, fortunately. I went down to the Double-Circle Coop in Calhan and bought some supplies before the weather got too bad. Here we were then, in a 12x70' mobile home out in the middle of nowhere, with two calves in the
Re: [MBZ] REALLY nice 220D
YOWZA! My wife would shoot me for spending that much money but that is beautiful! -Curt Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 22:16:31 -0500 From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] REALLY nice 220D To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=160134919405 - Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody watch Mythbusters? Just tested WVO in SD
Yeah but we are not talking about rebuilding a MB gearbox, just finding the fuel pipe. If you have a basic understanding of how a car gets it's fuel you should be able to work out which is the feed pipe and which is the return line. Anyway they seem like nice fellas, if they had the big ego thing happening they would have edited out the part about them standing there looking for a fuel line. - Original Message - From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 10:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody watch Mythbusters? Just tested WVO in SD Hendrik Riessen wrote: Yes but are they really knowledable or just a couple of actors playing the part? You can only be an expert at so many things... and they do build and design lots of stuff on their own. They also weren't actors in their work before Mythbusters... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody watch Mythbusters? Just tested WVO in SD
So Maccas is now your fuel station as well:) I'll have a couple of big macs and 10 gallons of oil, thanks. - Original Message - From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 10:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody watch Mythbusters? Just tested WVO in SD I've been running 100% WVO in my 87SDL since April with no mods whatsoever to the car. There is a bit of hesitation when you accelerate until it gets warmed up. More so on cold mornings. -Dave Walton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody watch Mythbusters? Just tested WVO in SD
They're the real deal, I've worked with Adam before. They were both well known in the industry before they were asked to do the show. -Curt Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 18:45:18 +0930 From: Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody watch Mythbusters? Just tested WVO in SD To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Yes but are they really knowledable or just a couple of actors playing the part? It's one thing to read a script but quite another to know something about what goes on under the bonnet of a car. Sort of like when the nasty aliens actually invade earth, are Bruce Willis, Arnie, Mel Gibson and Co going to get together and beat then back? - Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Hauling calves in a Benz [was Re: Is this Curt and his new 190? Or is it Marshall?]
I hauled 9 bags of mulch home in a Porsche 944. My neighbor stopped me - one of his comments was You might be a redneck if... Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 8:59 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Hauling calves in a Benz [was Re: Is this Curt and his new 190? Or is it Marshall?] Very good story Craig!! I can relate to ALMOST every part of it at one time or another. Mike On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 10:50:23 -0600 Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20070711/46b f684c/attachment.jpg You may laugh, but I actually did transport two calves that way. A humorous story in its own right, if anyone wants to hear it. Well, I guess people do want to hear it. OK, then. When Shirley and I lived in Colorado Springs in the early '80s, I was working for Hewlett-Packard. We lived, first, in town. For some reason, the neighborhood we lived in was a noisy one, with people thinking that everyone wanted to listen to the type of music they did and taking offense if asked to turn it down a little. We had enough of that and decided to move to the Black Forest area, north of town. While there, we raised a couple of calves, borrowing a friends horse trailer to tow behind our Willys Utility Wagon. We found, after a couple of years, that unremitting shade from pine trees got more than a little old and, here, too, people were inconsiderate of their neighbors, eventhough the neighbors were farther away from each other. Since they were out in the country, people just turned up their radios. Shirley had an uncle living on a farm in Nebraska, who we had visited a number of times. I liked the living and the environs and Shirley did, too. We finally found a place in spring '83, four miles south of the town of Calhan, Colorado, which is on Highway 24 between Colorado Springs and Limon. The place was 80 acres of unimproved land that had been planted in winter wheat. The nearest building was a microwave tower, about 3/4 mile away, and that was unoccupied. We could see a house to the east-southeast a little over a mile away, and the house of people who became good friends to the south-east a mile-and-a-half away. The land was on the mesa south of Calhan, several hundred feet higher than Calhan and at an elevation of almost 7000'. (Calhan is known as the Highest non-mountainous town in the US.) We bought and moved our Little Mobile Home on the Praire out onthe land, without well, without septic, and without power. Therein began 6 years of interesting adventures, about which we could, and probably should, write a book. We did get a septic tank put in and connected and did get a well put in -- that was 523' deep instead of the estimated 300' and blew our budget for quite a while. I'll cut this very short and skip to the incident in question. The situation is set up by knowing that Hewlett-Packard gave its employees Good Friday off every year and that the Calhan Livestock Auction held auctions on Fridays ... One particular Good Friday, I drove down to the Auction in our '72 220D to watch the proceedings. The weather was overcast, but decent. In watching all the animals being auctioned, I decided that it was time to have calves again (they do better in pairs). I figured I could make a shelter for them with a large tarp and our tractor that would do until I could go into Colorado Springs and get materials to make a better one. So, I bought two calves. At the end of the auction, I went outside to move the car so they could be loaded. I noticed that the weather had deteriorated considerably. Hmmm ... So, I backed up the car, opened the trunk, and told the fellow to load them in. They were just a couple of months old, perhaps 80 pounds. No problem for the W115 trunk (which, by the way, is noticably larger than that of W123s). I got the calves loaded and drove up the hill to home. I parked next to the mobile home and went inside. By this time, a real blizzard was starting, with high winds, lots of snow, and all. I put some black plastic down in the bathroom and told Shirley she needed to put on her coat and help me get some calves that I had just bought out of the trunk of the car. She put her coat on and came outside with me. Standing by the trunk, I told her, I'll open the trunk and grab one. You keep the other one in the trunk. She agreed that's what she would do. So, I opened the trunk. She cried out in surprise, There are calves in there! and just stood there. I grabbed a calf and over the wind yelled, What do you think I've been telling you? Now hold that one! I got the first calf out and we closed the trunk lid without the other calf escaping. We dragged the calf over to the mobile home and up the
Re: [MBZ] OT: Hauling calves in a Benz [was Re: Is this Curt and his new 190? Or is it Marshall?]
I can recommend NOT strapping (12) 20' lengths of 1 galvanized pipe to the roof rack of a Subaru Impreza. It might not seem like that much in talking, but it's a lot heavier than it looks (well over the 125lb limit of the rack) and 20' is quite a bit longer than the car. That was quite interesting as I recall pipe sticking out way out over the hood and a bit in front of the car and a good ways out back too. Just trying to drive smoothly down the highway for 20 or 30 miles while the pipe just kinda see-sawed up and down over the bumps. I still have a dent in the front cross bar from that bit of stupidity. (: Levi Not sure if the mulch in a 944 beats the old Christmas tree on the whale tale of a 911... On 7/12/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hauled 9 bags of mulch home in a Porsche 944. My neighbor stopped me - one of his comments was You might be a redneck if... Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 8:59 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Hauling calves in a Benz [was Re: Is this Curt and his new 190? Or is it Marshall?] Very good story Craig!! I can relate to ALMOST every part of it at one time or another. Mike On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 10:50:23 -0600 Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20070711/46b f684c/attachment.jpg You may laugh, but I actually did transport two calves that way. A humorous story in its own right, if anyone wants to hear it. Well, I guess people do want to hear it. OK, then. When Shirley and I lived in Colorado Springs in the early '80s, I was working for Hewlett-Packard. We lived, first, in town. For some reason, the neighborhood we lived in was a noisy one, with people thinking that everyone wanted to listen to the type of music they did and taking offense if asked to turn it down a little. We had enough of that and decided to move to the Black Forest area, north of town. While there, we raised a couple of calves, borrowing a friends horse trailer to tow behind our Willys Utility Wagon. We found, after a couple of years, that unremitting shade from pine trees got more than a little old and, here, too, people were inconsiderate of their neighbors, eventhough the neighbors were farther away from each other. Since they were out in the country, people just turned up their radios. Shirley had an uncle living on a farm in Nebraska, who we had visited a number of times. I liked the living and the environs and Shirley did, too. We finally found a place in spring '83, four miles south of the town of Calhan, Colorado, which is on Highway 24 between Colorado Springs and Limon. The place was 80 acres of unimproved land that had been planted in winter wheat. The nearest building was a microwave tower, about 3/4 mile away, and that was unoccupied. We could see a house to the east-southeast a little over a mile away, and the house of people who became good friends to the south-east a mile-and-a-half away. The land was on the mesa south of Calhan, several hundred feet higher than Calhan and at an elevation of almost 7000'. (Calhan is known as the Highest non-mountainous town in the US.) We bought and moved our Little Mobile Home on the Praire out onthe land, without well, without septic, and without power. Therein began 6 years of interesting adventures, about which we could, and probably should, write a book. We did get a septic tank put in and connected and did get a well put in -- that was 523' deep instead of the estimated 300' and blew our budget for quite a while. I'll cut this very short and skip to the incident in question. The situation is set up by knowing that Hewlett-Packard gave its employees Good Friday off every year and that the Calhan Livestock Auction held auctions on Fridays ... One particular Good Friday, I drove down to the Auction in our '72 220D to watch the proceedings. The weather was overcast, but decent. In watching all the animals being auctioned, I decided that it was time to have calves again (they do better in pairs). I figured I could make a shelter for them with a large tarp and our tractor that would do until I could go into Colorado Springs and get materials to make a better one. So, I bought two calves. At the end of the auction, I went outside to move the car so they could be loaded. I noticed that the weather had deteriorated considerably. Hmmm ... So, I backed up the car, opened the trunk, and told the fellow to load them in. They were just a couple of months old, perhaps 80 pounds. No problem for the W115 trunk (which, by the way, is noticably larger than that of W123s). I got the calves loaded and drove up the
Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review
Corridor Bloody luxury, we used to live in a shoebox in the middle of the road. I'd give me right leg to be able to live in a corridor. - Original Message - From: Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 8:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review On 12/07/07, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok boys, 3 drivers, NO garage OR flat concrete to work on, 5 123's (3 D, CD, TD) , 300SDL, and the BioBeast. We used to DREAM of living in a corridor! Jeff Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Another reason why alcohol and using the internet don't mix
http://www.autotrader.com.au/iteminfo/adnumber_6523907_loc_locRZSQregtAVSCdistRZSQAVSCstateRZSQ9AVSCregRZSQ_off_9_sect_Automotive_sort_otRZSQ0BJDZfdRZSQSellingPrice_sqt_0_srchby_mmbsRZSQMakeAVSCsrchbyRZSQmkmdlAVSCmkdlsRZSQMercedes-BenzMRFX420SEMRFX420SELMRFX500SL_stpg_1_subs_Used+Cars_ After a dozen stubbies they all look the same. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review
So why don't you have it? Wouldn't that mean you just steal it? Levi On 7/12/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Man I'd like to find a diesel Quantum some day. I know where theres a diesel Dasher (which I think is basically the same car) but its been sitting for at least 10 years and the son of the lady who owns it totalled my parents cars a few years ago so we're not really on speaking terms. -Curt Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:25:30 -0500 From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Point taken. Allow me to rephrase. With a three car garage and three drivers, I have: Wife's Buick Regal, her car and what she likes. Frigid AC (her basic requirement). Daughter's Chevy Cavalier, bought and paid for out of her checkbook -- she loves it. My '77 W123 (my baby) My '82 VW Quantum diesel, a true beater but 50 mpg, my fun car. My '72 Honda motorcycle. One moped. Seven bicycles. Now, why would I want another vehicle on my insurance policy, even if it is a W123? - Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Hauling calves in a Benz
Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I hauled 9 bags of mulch home in a Porsche 944. My neighbor stopped me - one of his comments was You might be a redneck if... This one's always a classic... http://www.snopes.com/photos/lumber.asp Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody watch Mythbusters? Just tested WVO in SD
Zoltan Finks wrote: SNIP But later they tested the myth that a diesel can run on discarded cooking oil. They used an SD. They just filtered it (wish they told us how) and ran it out of a translucent plastic jug they mounted up by the windshield. They were quite surprised that with no car modifications it could run the car. It got 30 mpg at a steady 35 mph - compared to 33 mpg with dino. That exactly the what straight Veggie/Bio should deliver. It has 10% less energy so should deliver 10% less economy - and it does. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] REALLY nice 220D
What's with the mini air filter? What happened to the monster OEM canister and why was it replaced? On 7/12/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: YOWZA! My wife would shoot me for spending that much money but that is beautiful! -Curt Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 22:16:31 -0500 From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] REALLY nice 220D To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=160134919405 - Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Hauling calves in a Benz [was Re: Is this Curt and his new 190? Or is it Marshall?]
Craig's story is why I always referred to the big ol 70s cadillacs as Missouri Cattle Trucks It was not uncommon to see calves, sheep goats and whatnot loaded into a caddy with the back seat out. At 09:18 AM 7/12/2007, you wrote: I hauled 9 bags of mulch home in a Porsche 944. My neighbor stopped me - one of his comments was You might be a redneck if... Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 8:59 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Hauling calves in a Benz [was Re: Is this Curt and his new 190? Or is it Marshall?] Very good story Craig!! I can relate to ALMOST every part of it at one time or another. Mike On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 10:50:23 -0600 Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20070711/46b f684c/attachment.jpg You may laugh, but I actually did transport two calves that way. A humorous story in its own right, if anyone wants to hear it. Well, I guess people do want to hear it. OK, then. When Shirley and I lived in Colorado Springs in the early '80s, I was working for Hewlett-Packard. We lived, first, in town. For some reason, the neighborhood we lived in was a noisy one, with people thinking that everyone wanted to listen to the type of music they did and taking offense if asked to turn it down a little. We had enough of that and decided to move to the Black Forest area, north of town. While there, we raised a couple of calves, borrowing a friends horse trailer to tow behind our Willys Utility Wagon. We found, after a couple of years, that unremitting shade from pine trees got more than a little old and, here, too, people were inconsiderate of their neighbors, eventhough the neighbors were farther away from each other. Since they were out in the country, people just turned up their radios. Shirley had an uncle living on a farm in Nebraska, who we had visited a number of times. I liked the living and the environs and Shirley did, too. We finally found a place in spring '83, four miles south of the town of Calhan, Colorado, which is on Highway 24 between Colorado Springs and Limon. The place was 80 acres of unimproved land that had been planted in winter wheat. The nearest building was a microwave tower, about 3/4 mile away, and that was unoccupied. We could see a house to the east-southeast a little over a mile away, and the house of people who became good friends to the south-east a mile-and-a-half away. The land was on the mesa south of Calhan, several hundred feet higher than Calhan and at an elevation of almost 7000'. (Calhan is known as the Highest non-mountainous town in the US.) We bought and moved our Little Mobile Home on the Praire out onthe land, without well, without septic, and without power. Therein began 6 years of interesting adventures, about which we could, and probably should, write a book. We did get a septic tank put in and connected and did get a well put in -- that was 523' deep instead of the estimated 300' and blew our budget for quite a while. I'll cut this very short and skip to the incident in question. The situation is set up by knowing that Hewlett-Packard gave its employees Good Friday off every year and that the Calhan Livestock Auction held auctions on Fridays ... One particular Good Friday, I drove down to the Auction in our '72 220D to watch the proceedings. The weather was overcast, but decent. In watching all the animals being auctioned, I decided that it was time to have calves again (they do better in pairs). I figured I could make a shelter for them with a large tarp and our tractor that would do until I could go into Colorado Springs and get materials to make a better one. So, I bought two calves. At the end of the auction, I went outside to move the car so they could be loaded. I noticed that the weather had deteriorated considerably. Hmmm ... So, I backed up the car, opened the trunk, and told the fellow to load them in. They were just a couple of months old, perhaps 80 pounds. No problem for the W115 trunk (which, by the way, is noticably larger than that of W123s). I got the calves loaded and drove up the hill to home. I parked next to the mobile home and went inside. By this time, a real blizzard was starting, with high winds, lots of snow, and all. I put some black plastic down in the bathroom and told Shirley she needed to put on her coat and help me get some calves that I had just bought out of the trunk of the car. She put her coat on and came outside with me. Standing by the trunk, I told her, I'll open the trunk and grab one. You keep the other one in the trunk. She agreed that's what she would do. So, I opened the trunk. She
Re: [MBZ] OT: Hauling calves in a Benz [was Re: Is this Curt and his new 190? Or is it Marshall?]
Does hauling a Red, white and blue Polaris snowmibile with a Yamaha engine and straight pipes on the roof and trunk lid of a 4 door Plymouth Gran Fury(ex cop car) with mag wheels and a whip antenna top all that? Or maybe the time I hauled a Buick 455 with th400 automatic in the back of a 4 door Omni? It was so rear end heavy I couldn't get traction with the front wheels and had to be pushed onto the dirt to get enough traction to get it to move. Hauled it 15 miles or so home, down off Sugar Hill(the highest point in the county) to Watkins(the lowest point) and back up the hill to my place(almost as high). What a ride that was. Mike I can recommend NOT strapping (12) 20' lengths of 1 galvanized pipe to the roof rack of a Subaru Impreza. It might not seem like that much in talking, but it's a lot heavier than it looks (well over the 125lb limit of the rack) and 20' is quite a bit longer than the car. That was quite interesting as I recall pipe sticking out way out over the hood and a bit in front of the car and a good ways out back too. Just trying to drive smoothly down the highway for 20 or 30 miles while the pipe just kinda see-sawed up and down over the bumps. I still have a dent in the front cross bar from that bit of stupidity. (: Levi Not sure if the mulch in a 944 beats the old Christmas tree on the whale tale of a 911... On 7/12/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hauled 9 bags of mulch home in a Porsche 944. My neighbor stopped me - one of his comments was You might be a redneck if... Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 8:59 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Hauling calves in a Benz [was Re: Is this Curt and his new 190? Or is it Marshall?] Very good story Craig!! I can relate to ALMOST every part of it at one time or another. Mike On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 10:50:23 -0600 Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20070711/46b f684c/attachment.jpg You may laugh, but I actually did transport two calves that way. A humorous story in its own right, if anyone wants to hear it. Well, I guess people do want to hear it. OK, then. When Shirley and I lived in Colorado Springs in the early '80s, I was working for Hewlett-Packard. We lived, first, in town. For some reason, the neighborhood we lived in was a noisy one, with people thinking that everyone wanted to listen to the type of music they did and taking offense if asked to turn it down a little. We had enough of that and decided to move to the Black Forest area, north of town. While there, we raised a couple of calves, borrowing a friends horse trailer to tow behind our Willys Utility Wagon. We found, after a couple of years, that unremitting shade from pine trees got more than a little old and, here, too, people were inconsiderate of their neighbors, eventhough the neighbors were farther away from each other. Since they were out in the country, people just turned up their radios. Shirley had an uncle living on a farm in Nebraska, who we had visited a number of times. I liked the living and the environs and Shirley did, too. We finally found a place in spring '83, four miles south of the town of Calhan, Colorado, which is on Highway 24 between Colorado Springs and Limon. The place was 80 acres of unimproved land that had been planted in winter wheat. The nearest building was a microwave tower, about 3/4 mile away, and that was unoccupied. We could see a house to the east-southeast a little over a mile away, and the house of people who became good friends to the south-east a mile-and-a-half away. The land was on the mesa south of Calhan, several hundred feet higher than Calhan and at an elevation of almost 7000'. (Calhan is known as the Highest non-mountainous town in the US.) We bought and moved our Little Mobile Home on the Praire out onthe land, without well, without septic, and without power. Therein began 6 years of interesting adventures, about which we could, and probably should, write a book. We did get a septic tank put in and connected and did get a well put in -- that was 523' deep instead of the estimated 300' and blew our budget for quite a while. I'll cut this very short and skip to the incident in question. The situation is set up by knowing that Hewlett-Packard gave its employees Good Friday off every year and that the Calhan Livestock Auction held auctions on Fridays ... One particular Good Friday, I drove down to the Auction in our '72 220D to watch the proceedings. The weather was overcast, but decent. In watching all the animals being auctioned, I decided that it was
Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review
Assuming its still there (I haven't actually laid eyes on it in like 12 years) I dunno what kind of shape it'd be in. The owner was the theater director when I was in highschool. It wasn't until I left that I realized what a controlling nutjob she really was... So other than the possibility of getting a probably destroyed car I don't particularly want to see her.. -Curt Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 10:00:49 -0400 From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed So why don't you have it? Wouldn't that mean you just steal it? Levi On 7/12/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Man I'd like to find a diesel Quantum some day. I know where theres a diesel Dasher (which I think is basically the same car) but its been sitting for at least 10 years and the son of the lady who owns it totalled my parents cars a few years ago so we're not really on speaking terms. -Curt - Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] IowaQ
Wonko the Sane wrote: How many would be interested in coming to west-central Iowa in August/September for a get-together? (Jefferson, Iowa) Sounds good. 570 miles each way, I can afford to do that in the 190E. Or better yet, if I buy a EX250, I can do it on 8 gallons each way. What's this about ex-lovers and address secrecy? Who's ex, yours or Deb's? Seems like 'Bama Boy already knows where you live. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Hauling calves in a Benz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or maybe the time I hauled a Buick 455 with th400 automatic in the back of a 4 door Omni? I once hauled a 2600lb boat and trailer up into mild Canadian mountains with a fuel injected 93hp Horizon. Made it to the Macinac bridge in 5th gear, but needed 4th a couple of times in Michigan's upper penninsula. 29mpg for the Michigan part of the journey, I was not willing to go over 55mph with no trailer brakes, especially since one of the trailer tires had been replaced with an underrated tire. Several mountains in Canada were ascended in 3rd or 4th with heavy throttle, descended in 3rd with the ignition off. This was after had I wrecked it and put in a used radiator that cooled poorly, so it was an exercise in engine temperature management. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] REALLY nice 220D
andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What's with the mini air filter? What happened to the monster OEM canister and why was it replaced? I thought the shifter lever looked fairly worn for the claimed 24K miles -- assuming the markings are the gear pattern, they looked almost worn off. Perhaps it was just the angle of the photo or lighting though. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Showroom??
Well, it might be better than that. I often marvel at the condition of cars at some of the local gatherings. They are in many cases much better than they ever would have been when brand new. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 5:39 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Showroom?? unless it's wilton's showroom-condition 300D; then all the cliches are true. Piffle. Unless it was delivered new this week, it is not in showroom condition. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM617 conversion to generator
I have one of the Generac units in my shed for such an occasion. I have no plans to set up a switchover box - I just plan to run extension cords in through the windows and if necessary will disconnect things like the furnace from the house panel and feed from the generator. We don't have many power failures but if we ever do in a bad weather situation, at least I have the ability to keep some basic items running for a while. I stuck with gasoline on the assumption that I can drain it out of my vehicles as an emergency supply. At this time, I have 2 gas pickups, a gas SUV and a gas car and if they each have a half tank, I will have quite a bit of gas to run the generator. If it was a more common occurence to lose power, I would be looking at a Lister type diesel and a big generator but so far I have not had the need for it. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of LWB250 Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 5:25 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM617 conversion to generator For many years, Generac (Genecrap as they were known in the industry) tried hard to compete with us big boys in the spec market, something they were never successful at. However, they finally got their act together anc concentrated on the consumer side, where they have been very successful with the small home standby units. I have a good friend that's a Generac distributor who sells tons of these things. I knnow that the big box retailers like Home Despot do as well. They're very well designed and packaged, and if I wanted a small stationary home standby unit with a transfer switch (switchover gear) I would probably go with one. As for LP as a fuel, the choices are no-brainers, mainly due to the storage issues. The only bad thing about gaseous fuels is the lower BTU content, but the manufacturers have taken that into consideration when sizing engines. Dan --- Scott Ritchey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think fuel is a critical issue. Given the long-term storage problems with gasoline and Diesel fuel, I opted for a 15KW commercial (Generac) package that runs on propane. I have a 500gal underground tank that I also use for cooking and emergency heat. It's a lot less fun, but the Generac package comes with switchover gear, etc and is relatively easy to install. Scott Ritchey -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Merle Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 02:38 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OM617 conversion to generator We are starting to have several power outages where I stay and I was wondering about getting a spare OM617 ( non turbo ) and hooking it up to an alternator and powering my home . It is a bit of overkill but it also servers the purpose of having a hot standby OM617 on call. ( I have 3 other vehicles with this engine.) The problem I foresee is how to govern the engine to run at a constant 3000 rpm in order to maintain a stable voltage and frequency under varying load. Can the existing MW pump be converted to operate in constant rpm mode? Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 420 SEL test port question?
On 7/11/07, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, He says it needs rear brakes as the light comes on. Is the light just an indicator there is a fluid inbalance, or faulty master cylinder? Is it the parking brake light (BRAKE) or the lining light (concentric broken circles)? The former means low fluid or sticking/misadjusted parking brake mechanism (common on 124s, not sure about 126s); the latter means worn pads or faulty (intermittently grounding) sensors. Alex Chamberlain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] REALLY nice 220D
Have you all read the question and answer section? Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh how I want this auto. The only thing I don't like about it is the blue MB tex. Just don't like MB tex in blue. Funny how this older model has english readings, yet newer models have metric readings (temp and oil pressure). Brian On 7/11/07, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cool! And the colour of my very first car. The shift on the tree is pretty funky too. :-) Ed 300E On 11/07/07, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=160134919405 -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody watch Mythbusters? Just tested WVO in SD
WOW, 100% vegoil without pre-heating? You're REALLY asking for trouble. I give you 10,000 miles at MAX before you have injection pump, injectors, pre-chamber, or ring problems. There are major engine problems running 100% vegoil when it's preheated to 150F or higher, let alone running it at ambient temps Once you start having these problems, Italian Tuneup's won't even help. The MB/Bosch injection system is pretty well bullet proof, but it cannot handle the missile you've launched. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (271,xxx mi) needs head '83 300SD (246,645 mi) SOLD! '82 300CD (166 kmi) getting front end rebuild '82 300D (74 kmi) getting '85 donor engine-SOLD! '85 300D (280,176) parts car-sans engine Quoting dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've been running 100% WVO in my 87SDL since April with no mods whatsoever to the car. There is a bit of hesitation when you accelerate until it gets warmed up. More so on cold mornings. -Dave Walton On 7/12/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have gotten to really like this show on Discovery channel. Now that this channel is included in my limited basic cable package. They just were testing fuel mileage myths. They tested several wacky contraptions they found - mostly on the net - that were supposed to improve MPG. I think only one worked and improved 6%. But later they tested the myth that a diesel can run on discarded cooking oil. They used an SD. They just filtered it (wish they told us how) and ran it out of a translucent plastic jug they mounted up by the windshield. They were quite surprised that with no car modifications it could run the car. It got 30 mpg at a steady 35 mph - compared to 33 mpg with dino. Also, it's amazing to me that sometimes automotive knowledge can be so separate from other engineering knowledge. These are two very knowledgeable guys in lots of different areas of engineering, but neither of them could find the fuel line on a couple of different cars. Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Generator heads [was: Re: OM617 conversion to generator]
What about regulation of voltage and frequency? Do they put out a clean signal? -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (271,xxx mi) needs head '83 300SD (246,645 mi) SOLD! '82 300CD (166 kmi) getting front end rebuild '82 300D (74 kmi) getting '85 donor engine-SOLD! '85 300D (280,176) parts car-sans engine Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The ST heads are AWESOME! They can run for years without problem. Generally nothing more required than a set of brushes now and again and regular lubrication. Mike On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:39:02 -0700 (PDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you want to get serious here ya go... http://utterpower.com/ST.htm Mike Yup, that looks serious, all right! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] REALLY nice 220D
it very well might only have 25Kmi on it. Whoever wins this is getting a jewel. I thought the brake pedal was really worn away (indicating higher mileage) but it's really just sunlight. I think the same happened with the shift lever markings. On 7/12/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you all read the question and answer section? Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh how I want this auto. The only thing I don't like about it is the blue MB tex. Just don't like MB tex in blue. Funny how this older model has english readings, yet newer models have metric readings (temp and oil pressure). Brian On 7/11/07, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cool! And the colour of my very first car. The shift on the tree is pretty funky too. :-) Ed 300E On 11/07/07, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=160134919405 -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi - for sale [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM617 conversion to generator
Ever feel like selling?? -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (271,xxx mi) needs head '83 300SD (246,645 mi) SOLD! '82 300CD (166 kmi) getting front end rebuild '82 300D (74 kmi) getting '85 donor engine-SOLD! '85 300D (280,176) parts car-sans engine Quoting Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: There was an article in Homepower a few years ago about an old fellow who rewired old industrial electric motors for wind driven generators. Beats paying Grainger prices for the two pole gen heads I found there. My surplus MD3 was $100, and is a double-ended synchronous machine at about 25kW a side. One side 400 Hz and one 60 Hz. Probably an easier starting point if you're going to go to that much trouble. 1200 RPM, too. Will I ever get to it?... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] REALLY nice 220D
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 10:56:53 -0400 andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's with the mini air filter? What happened to the monster OEM canister and why was it replaced? The OEM oil-bath air filter is located to the lower left of the York A/C compressor, hidden by the front of the car. You can see the air pipe from the intake manifold going that direction and the flex joint to the top of the filter, but the filter itself is hidden. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 420 SEL test port question?
Thanks Alex. Ed On 12/07/07, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/11/07, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, He says it needs rear brakes as the light comes on. Is the light just an indicator there is a fluid inbalance, or faulty master cylinder? Is it the parking brake light (BRAKE) or the lining light (concentric broken circles)? The former means low fluid or sticking/misadjusted parking brake mechanism (common on 124s, not sure about 126s); the latter means worn pads or faulty (intermittently grounding) sensors. Alex Chamberlain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Generator heads [was: Re: OM617 conversion to generator]
Maybe this link will help with this discussion http://utterpower.com/commercial_grid.htm Mike What about regulation of voltage and frequency? Do they put out a clean signal? -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (271,xxx mi) needs head '83 300SD (246,645 mi) SOLD! '82 300CD (166 kmi) getting front end rebuild '82 300D (74 kmi) getting '85 donor engine-SOLD! '85 300D (280,176) parts car-sans engine Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The ST heads are AWESOME! They can run for years without problem. Generally nothing more required than a set of brushes now and again and regular lubrication. Mike On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:39:02 -0700 (PDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you want to get serious here ya go... http://utterpower.com/ST.htm Mike Yup, that looks serious, all right! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] REALLY nice 220D
Maybe. Somebody asked about records to document the miles or service history. The owner maintained it himself from day 1. So the implication is NO records. The star highlight filter used on the photos sort of obscures detail too. Makes the chrome and paint look nice tho. Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: it very well might only have 25Kmi on it. Whoever wins this is getting a jewel. I thought the brake pedal was really worn away (indicating higher mileage) but it's really just sunlight. I think the same happened with the shift lever markings. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Hauling calves in a Benz [was Re: Is this Curt and his new 190? Or is it Marshall?]
I can't trump your weight, but I can trump most anyone's distance. I haulled about 600lbs of bowling equipment for all of 3500mi round trip to Reno NV and back. Over half of it I had an aditional 400-450lbs of fuel in the trunk of a 300D. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (271,xxx mi) needs head '83 300SD (246,645 mi) SOLD! '82 300CD (166 kmi) getting front end rebuild '82 300D (74 kmi) getting '85 donor engine-SOLD! '85 300D (280,176) parts car-sans engine Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Does hauling a Red, white and blue Polaris snowmibile with a Yamaha engine and straight pipes on the roof and trunk lid of a 4 door Plymouth Gran Fury(ex cop car) with mag wheels and a whip antenna top all that? Or maybe the time I hauled a Buick 455 with th400 automatic in the back of a 4 door Omni? It was so rear end heavy I couldn't get traction with the front wheels and had to be pushed onto the dirt to get enough traction to get it to move. Hauled it 15 miles or so home, down off Sugar Hill(the highest point in the county) to Watkins(the lowest point) and back up the hill to my place(almost as high). What a ride that was. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Generator heads [was: Re: OM617 conversion to generator]
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 09:07:32 -0400 Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note that you could hook a double-U jointed driveshaft to the generator and engine, but you'd probably break keyways and other such things from the lack of torsional resiliency (something I learned when I designed and made our generator). If you're parting out a MBZ for your engine, you can use a flex disk. True. You could use two and do away with the U-joints if you arranged things properly. I'd be a little concerned with the flex disks being too stiff, though. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] REALLY nice 220D
Hard to tell with the quality of the pics, but looked like some overspray on the cross member in the engine bay, around the attached tags? I guess a lot of the asking price is based on low mileage which they can't really back up. I'm not so sure such an old car with so few miles, especially one that was laid up for 10 years is really the best car to buy. Then again, what do I know, I'm new to all this Benz stuff. :-) Ed 300E On 12/07/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe. Somebody asked about records to document the miles or service history. The owner maintained it himself from day 1. So the implication is NO records. The star highlight filter used on the photos sort of obscures detail too. Makes the chrome and paint look nice tho. Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: it very well might only have 25Kmi on it. Whoever wins this is getting a jewel. I thought the brake pedal was really worn away (indicating higher mileage) but it's really just sunlight. I think the same happened with the shift lever markings. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody watch Mythbusters? Just tested WVO in SD
resubscribe? - Original Message - From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 1:13 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody watch Mythbusters? Just tested WVO in SD Also: Kaleb: just a note to let you know that somehow I seem to have been removed from the biodiesel list. What should I do to rectify this? Brian On 7/11/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have gotten to really like this show on Discovery channel. Now that this channel is included in my limited basic cable package. They just were testing fuel mileage myths. They tested several wacky contraptions they found - mostly on the net - that were supposed to improve MPG. I think only one worked and improved 6%. But later they tested the myth that a diesel can run on discarded cooking oil. They used an SD. They just filtered it (wish they told us how) and ran it out of a translucent plastic jug they mounted up by the windshield. They were quite surprised that with no car modifications it could run the car. It got 30 mpg at a steady 35 mph - compared to 33 mpg with dino. Also, it's amazing to me that sometimes automotive knowledge can be so separate from other engineering knowledge. These are two very knowledgeable guys in lots of different areas of engineering, but neither of them could find the fuel line on a couple of different cars. Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Interesting way to spend lunch
Today was Show your Wheels day at work. I went to the grocery store last night and picked up 2 gallons of veggie oil (soy was cheapest so thats what I got). Tossed 'em into the tank of the 190D, printed out a BioFuel FAQ and it drew people like moths to a light. They wanted to know the mileage and what modifications I'd made (none) how much the oil cost and how much could I use and on and on. I ran it and I'd say the soy oil smells better than canola I'd used the past. I'd originally wanted to use corn but thats $1.50 a gallon more and I figured I was already economically unsustainable enough... Anyway a guy with a beautiful old Mustang won a nice little trophy. I don't care so many people actually thanked me for bringing my car out that it was totally worth it... -Curt - Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] REALLY nice 220D
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 12:29:49 -0400, you wrote:
Have you all read the question and answer section?
Trying not to be politically incorrect here. How Should I say this...
The car is being sold from New Jersey, home of The Sopranos, Trenton
Newark.
I've done business {Freight} with N.J. Business Men, they lack a
modicum of ethics!
Buyer very very careful !!
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Regards,
Peter T. Arnold
2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 12Kmi, No problems!
1987 300SDL 280KMI Inherited by Grandson
1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi
1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen
Wife has a Cruizer, 80 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is!
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[MBZ] Electromagnetic fan clutch
Finally took the time to figure out why my car heats up when its sitting still, like in heavy traffic. The electromagnetic fan clutch isn't engaging at all... So with multimeter in hand there is 12v at the clutch at both of the wires that come to it. Is one wire to engage the clutch a bit and the other engage more? Is this a relatively easy job? It looks like the fan shroud might have to come out, theres not alot of extra space... Kaleb, any electromagnetic fan clutches hanging around? Rusty needs $130 for one. How often do they fail? Is a used one worth doing? -Curt - Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Electromagnetic fan clutch
Curt Raymond wrote: Finally took the time to figure out why my car heats up when its sitting still, like in heavy traffic. The electromagnetic fan clutch isn't engaging at all... So with multimeter in hand there is 12v at the clutch at both of the wires that come to it. Is one wire to engage the clutch a bit and the other engage more? Is this a relatively easy job? It looks like the fan shroud might have to come out, theres not alot of extra space... Kaleb, any electromagnetic fan clutches hanging around? Rusty needs $130 for one. How often do they fail? Is a used one worth doing? One wire is the 12V to the clutch and the other wire is the ground connection. Both must be intact for the fan to engage. If you connect 12V and ground to those wire (with the proper polarity) the clutch will click. If it doesn't, the clutch coil is bad and will need to be replaced. You engine should NOT overheat under moist conditions even on HOT days (as long as the AC isn't running) even with NO clutch and no fan action. The fan isn't designed to come on until the coolant temp reaches 100+ degrees. That won't happen at idle or at even medium loads (at highway speeds or when climbing mountains it might need the fan) even on very hot days. My cars never exceed about 95 degrees C in city driving - even stop and go with ambient temps in the 90+ deg. F. range so the fan NEVER engages (unless the AC is on - that increases the load and engine coolant temps). If it's overheating then there is SOMETHING other than the fan clutch that's wrong. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Interesting way to spend lunch
You likely could have just showed the car without the biofuel. Most folks have little exposure to diesels and they are not all that common in cars. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 1:18 PM To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] Interesting way to spend lunch Today was Show your Wheels day at work. I went to the grocery store last night and picked up 2 gallons of veggie oil (soy was cheapest so thats what I got). Tossed 'em into the tank of the 190D, printed out a BioFuel FAQ and it drew people like moths to a light. They wanted to know the mileage and what modifications I'd made (none) how much the oil cost and how much could I use and on and on. I ran it and I'd say the soy oil smells better than canola I'd used the past. I'd originally wanted to use corn but thats $1.50 a gallon more and I figured I was already economically unsustainable enough... Anyway a guy with a beautiful old Mustang won a nice little trophy. I don't care so many people actually thanked me for bringing my car out that it was totally worth it... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Electromagnetic fan clutch
Marshall Booth wrote: You engine should NOT overheat under moist conditions even on HOT days (as long as the AC isn't running) even with NO clutch and no fan action. The fan isn't designed to come on until the coolant temp reaches 100+ degrees. That won't happen at idle or at even medium loads (at highway speeds or when climbing mountains it might need the fan) even on very hot days. My cars never exceed about 95 degrees C in city driving - even stop and go with ambient temps in the 90+ deg. F. range so the fan NEVER engages (unless the AC is on - that increases the load and engine coolant temps). If it's overheating then there is SOMETHING other than the fan clutch that's wrong. Not sure what the original car in question was, but this was true of my 190D 2.2 for the brief time I owned it. The only time the clutch engaged was when I pulled off the interstate after doing ~80 with the A/C on. Immediately stopped and fueled up (gas station was about 300ft off the interstate). Once I started it back up everything had heat soaked and the fan engaged. It would get up to *almost* 100C in stop and go traffic though... John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Electromagnetic fan clutch
Cheez whiz, I can't believe I forgot, its an '85 190D. Okay barring the fact that I need to flush the cooling system When I tested for power I got +12v on BOTH of the wires... Nothing between them... There is some bodgered wiring in the vicinity of where the wires from the clutch come back into the harness over between the powersteering pump and the valve cover. A mystery brown wire was added in at some point I think to force the A/C to come on while the ACC controller was disconnected (plug fell off, I found it because I thought the lights were out) this was all pre-me by the way. I'll dig some more tonight, maybe I'll pull one of the wires and put a ground on and see what happens. -Curt Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 14:39:27 -0400 From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electromagnetic fan clutch To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt Raymond wrote: Finally took the time to figure out why my car heats up when its sitting still, like in heavy traffic. The electromagnetic fan clutch isn't engaging at all... So with multimeter in hand there is 12v at the clutch at both of the wires that come to it. Is one wire to engage the clutch a bit and the other engage more? Is this a relatively easy job? It looks like the fan shroud might have to come out, theres not alot of extra space... Kaleb, any electromagnetic fan clutches hanging around? Rusty needs $130 for one. How often do they fail? Is a used one worth doing? One wire is the 12V to the clutch and the other wire is the ground connection. Both must be intact for the fan to engage. If you connect 12V and ground to those wire (with the proper polarity) the clutch will click. If it doesn't, the clutch coil is bad and will need to be replaced. You engine should NOT overheat under moist conditions even on HOT days (as long as the AC isn't running) even with NO clutch and no fan action. The fan isn't designed to come on until the coolant temp reaches 100+ degrees. That won't happen at idle or at even medium loads (at highway speeds or when climbing mountains it might need the fan) even on very hot days. My cars never exceed about 95 degrees C in city driving - even stop and go with ambient temps in the 90+ deg. F. range so the fan NEVER engages (unless the AC is on - that increases the load and engine coolant temps). If it's overheating then there is SOMETHING other than the fan clutch that's wrong. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Electromagnetic fan clutch
Curt Raymond wrote: When I tested for power I got +12v on BOTH of the wires... Nothing between them... There is some bodgered wiring in the vicinity of where the wires from the clutch come back into the harness over between the powersteering pump and the valve cover. A mystery brown wire was added in at some point I think to force the A/C to come on while the ACC controller was disconnected (plug fell off, I found it because I thought the lights were out) this was all pre-me by the way. I'll dig some more tonight, maybe I'll pull one of the wires and put a ground on and see what happens. Did you ground the wire that is on the temp switch on top of the engine? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Showroom
'Cept for needing wash/wax and vac interior right now, Wilton's 300D still LOOKS showroom cond, anyway, and only 21 yrs and 104kmi; still no nick, smudge, stain, scratch, ding, etc. Wilton 91 350SDL, 87 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Electromagnetic fan clutch
Curt Raymond wrote: Cheez whiz, I can't believe I forgot, its an '85 190D. Okay barring the fact that I need to flush the cooling system When I tested for power I got +12v on BOTH of the wires... Nothing between them... There is some bodgered wiring in the vicinity of where the wires from the clutch come back into the harness over between the powersteering pump and the valve cover. A mystery brown wire was added in at some point I think to force the A/C to come on while the ACC controller was disconnected (plug fell off, I found it because I thought the lights were out) this was all pre-me by the way. I'll dig some more tonight, maybe I'll pull one of the wires and put a ground on and see what happens. If you are measuring the voltage on the pins without disconnecting the wire from the fan and IF the switch complete the circuit to ground (and I believe that is the case in the '85 190D), then there WILL be 12V on both pins except when the switch is closed. Then there will be 12+V on one pin and less than 1 V on the other. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Electromagnetic fan clutch
Not a good idea to just measure voltage with a meter either. Sometimes there is sufficient contact to let the meter read correctly, but not enough to provide power to the unit. Sometimes things like a poor ground are all that is wrong. At the very least, use one of the test light doodads. If the light is bright, then there is likely a good circuit. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marshall Booth Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 2:39 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electromagnetic fan clutch Curt Raymond wrote: Cheez whiz, I can't believe I forgot, its an '85 190D. Okay barring the fact that I need to flush the cooling system When I tested for power I got +12v on BOTH of the wires... Nothing between them... There is some bodgered wiring in the vicinity of where the wires from the clutch come back into the harness over between the powersteering pump and the valve cover. A mystery brown wire was added in at some point I think to force the A/C to come on while the ACC controller was disconnected (plug fell off, I found it because I thought the lights were out) this was all pre-me by the way. I'll dig some more tonight, maybe I'll pull one of the wires and put a ground on and see what happens. If you are measuring the voltage on the pins without disconnecting the wire from the fan and IF the switch complete the circuit to ground (and I believe that is the case in the '85 190D), then there WILL be 12V on both pins except when the switch is closed. Then there will be 12+V on one pin and less than 1 V on the other. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody watch Mythbusters? Just tested WVO in SD
Actually, the red hair guy was ... or at leas an aspiring actor way back. At one time they showed an old clip of him in one of the old Charmin toilet paper commercials, he was the young shop clerk working in Mr Whipple's store in the ' please don't squeeze the Charmin' commercial...with a lot more hair. That aside, they do an incredible job of trying to piece these things together, even if they aren't up to snuff for the purists in any given episode, and they're loads of fun to watch. ---Robert John Robbins wrote: They also weren't actors in their work before Mythbusters... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody watch Mythbusters? Just tested WVO in SD
That guy couldn't find his way out of a paper sack with a sawzall. The few times I've seen that guys show, I've noticed the annoyance on the faces of the people he was supposedly helping while they were quietly covering for his screwing up. -Robert Jeff Zedic wrote: I think the best example of an expert that couldn't really do stuff is Bob Vila. I was often amazed at how much of a noob he was at home improvement stuff. Jeff Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1993 300e 2.8 wiring harness, 230 new car(s)
Even though I've not yet seen nor experienced a wiring harness issue with the bio-degradeable harness, was this malady possible on our car? It's a 1993 300E 2.8. Anyone have any good luck in getting MBUSA to pay for it? (Seems the comments on mercedesshop.com is quite lengthy.) If you'll remember, as a result of the 300SDL being totalled, I've now got a 1977 230 (basic car, like a Euro taxi) in the common beige with brown MB-tex interior... no PW, sunroof, airbags, ABS or fuel injection. However, it does have the original Becker Europa radio (not stereo and not cassette). At 141k, it now has a new tuneup, new tires and exhaust system. Only rust seen is some surface rust under the hood. I've also put on a Right side outside mirror. Oil change this coming weekend. Fun car, for 86HP. :) It will eventually be our daughter's car once I can get something for me. Anyone know what the timing and points gap are on this baby? Dunno what will be my car, but I was thinking of a Porsche 944 turbo from the late 80's or a 2005 C230 Kompressor sedan (mit 6-speed). Comments on my choices? I've got some time to ponder about that choice. Regards, Nick Gough Dayton 1977 230 1993 300E 2.8 1997 Jetta Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/index.php ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Compression readings changed
I rechecked my compression on my 87 300D Turbo and all six cylinders read 30 psi lower than when I checked it 3 weeks ago. The only difference is that this recent (lower psi) reading was taken while the engine was hot. When I did the compression test previously the engine had been sitting cold for three days. Is this normal? Ken ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Gump shift
I got my parts order from Rusty (thanks Rusty) and got down to a few of the tasks the parts are for. The old shift bushings were dead, so I installed the new ones by first marking the position of the arm on the transmission, then removing that and cleaning it up and getting the old metal ring out and inserting the rubber bushing. Nasty little clips to keep the arm on the lever and much cussing, moving arm and lever about, and got them lined up to where I thought I had made the mark. Might have been a tooth or two off though. Now I can not get it to go into gear easily or to stay there. Also lost where neutral is and getting to reverse is a huge problem. I am going to sit down with the manual and see what it calls for. Any ideas from shade tree mechanics would be much helpful as well. We are doing the work on a 1972 220D with manual transmission. -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Compression readings changed
Ken Rushing wrote: I rechecked my compression on my 87 300D Turbo and all six cylinders read 30 psi lower than when I checked it 3 weeks ago. The only difference is that this recent (lower psi) reading was taken while the engine was hot. When I did the compression test previously the engine had been sitting cold for three days. Is this normal? I can think of no situation where the compression across 6 cylinders would drop ~50 psi! Cold compression reading are usually lower and more variable when the engine is hot. 50 psi difference could be within the variability of the tool you are using. Are the cylinders all about the same? I've almost NEVER found a compression test on Mercedes diesels to be worth the effort. If the car starts well cold, that's about the best test there is. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Anybody watch Mythbusters? Just tested WVO in SD
I have gotten to really like this show on Discovery channel. Now that this channel is included in my limited basic cable package. They just were testing fuel mileage myths. They tested several wacky contraptions they found - mostly on the net - that were supposed to improve MPG. I think only one worked and improved 6%. But later they tested the myth that a diesel can run on discarded cooking oil. They used an SD. They just filtered it (wish they told us how) and ran it out of a translucent plastic jug they mounted up by the windshield. They were quite surprised that with no car modifications it could run the car. It got 30 mpg at a steady 35 mph - compared to 33 mpg with dino. Also, it's amazing to me that sometimes automotive knowledge can be so separate from other engineering knowledge. These are two very knowledgeable guys in lots of different areas of engineering, but neither of them could find the fuel line on a couple of different cars. Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gump shift
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 14:29:19 -0700 Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got my parts order from Rusty (thanks Rusty) and got down to a few of the tasks the parts are for. The old shift bushings were dead, so I installed the new ones by first marking the position of the arm on the transmission, then removing that and cleaning it up and getting the old metal ring out and inserting the rubber bushing. Nasty little clips to keep the arm on the lever and much cussing, moving arm and lever about, and got them lined up to where I thought I had made the mark. Might have been a tooth or two off though. Now I can not get it to go into gear easily or to stay there. Also lost where neutral is and getting to reverse is a huge problem. I am going to sit down with the manual and see what it calls for. Any ideas from shade tree mechanics would be much helpful as well. We are doing the work on a 1972 220D with manual transmission. Floor or column shift? If it's floor shift, I can't see how you'd have problems, but then again ... I also have no experience with column shifts. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 2 cars for sale again, auctions for 7/12/07
http://motors.search.ebay.com/_W0QQfrppZ50QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQrdZ0QQsassZokieQ2dbenz -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] i drive 4 hours to the middle of nowhere for pismo parts
turns out the guy is a baptist minister in some very small very rural town in NE Georgia. he took apart his pismo trying to fix it by replacing the power supply. then he decided he wasn't going to be able to put it back together. $60 for everything except power cord, power supply and hard drive. includes airport card, working battery and 512meg of ram. i've plugged the airport card into my powermac and it works fine and the battery shows life in my pismo, so i've already gotten my money's worth. guy also included a T8 screwdriver! he was hoping his parishioners would get him a new mac, but they got him a new dell laptop instead. he is very sad and can't believe what a complete POS vista is, but he pretends to be grateful to the congregants. turns out he was an amiga guy back in the day as well. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Electromagnetic fan clutch
nope, dont have one Curt Raymond wrote: Finally took the time to figure out why my car heats up when its sitting still, like in heavy traffic. The electromagnetic fan clutch isn't engaging at all... So with multimeter in hand there is 12v at the clutch at both of the wires that come to it. Is one wire to engage the clutch a bit and the other engage more? Is this a relatively easy job? It looks like the fan shroud might have to come out, theres not alot of extra space... Kaleb, any electromagnetic fan clutches hanging around? Rusty needs $130 for one. How often do they fail? Is a used one worth doing? -Curt - Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] killing weeds
Goat first choice (you might be able to borrow one for a little while), or buy one then you can take it to Wonko's grillfest (cabrito!) in the back of your diesel Benz once it has done its work. #2 is Roundup per below (watch the drift), but I don't think the Goracle would like that. --R Kevin wrote: What works the best for me (keep kids and pets you care about away) is the super ridiculous concentrate of roundup, in the 1 gallon jug. Basically liquid death. Anything else makes it a little hard to plant there afterwards if you change your mind in a year or so. What works even better though is a goat. Just fence off what you want cleared, and let it go to town. On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 07:39:42PM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: What is a good home brew or store bought spray to kill certain areas of vegetation? I know diesel works pretty good. Want to kill all living things in certain areas. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] killing weeds
What is a good home brew or store bought spray to kill certain areas of vegetation? I know diesel works pretty good. Want to kill all living things in certain areas. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] killing weeds
What works the best for me (keep kids and pets you care about away) is the super ridiculous concentrate of roundup, in the 1 gallon jug. Basically liquid death. Anything else makes it a little hard to plant there afterwards if you change your mind in a year or so. What works even better though is a goat. Just fence off what you want cleared, and let it go to town. On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 07:39:42PM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: What is a good home brew or store bought spray to kill certain areas of vegetation? I know diesel works pretty good. Want to kill all living things in certain areas. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] killing weeds
I've been toying with the idea of using biodiesel as a weed killer. Haven't tried it yet, but I don't see why it won't work. Goats are great, but they're pretty indifferent to what they consume, so tree bark and flower beds are fair game. On 7/12/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Goat first choice (you might be able to borrow one for a little while), or buy one then you can take it to Wonko's grillfest (cabrito!) in the back of your diesel Benz once it has done its work. #2 is Roundup per below (watch the drift), but I don't think the Goracle would like that. --R Kevin wrote: What works the best for me (keep kids and pets you care about away) is the super ridiculous concentrate of roundup, in the 1 gallon jug. Basically liquid death. Anything else makes it a little hard to plant there afterwards if you change your mind in a year or so. What works even better though is a goat. Just fence off what you want cleared, and let it go to town. On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 07:39:42PM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: What is a good home brew or store bought spray to kill certain areas of vegetation? I know diesel works pretty good. Want to kill all living things in certain areas. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Casey __ '87 300TD intercooler/propane/biodiesel '94 100CSQ Avant '90 90Q '89 Bluestar ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] killing weeds
What is a good home brew or store bought spray to kill certain areas of vegetation? I know diesel works pretty good. Want to kill all living things in certain areas. We always used polybor chlorate, it was stuff that was used to put under sidewalks before pouring, etc. Kills the ground, and it stays dead for years. Don't know if you can get it anymore. We used it to put on tansy ragwort. By hand, selectively. White powder, smells nasty. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM617 conversion to generator
Ever feel like selling?? Nope! Was kinda bummed that I didn't buy two, in fact. (Spare parts, etc.) Someday I'll get to it, or die first. Either way, I won't mind! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] killing weeds
The waste sludge leftover after filtering WVO and watery, nasty wvo not even fit for filtering is a wicked weed killer. Nothing grows there after for a very long time. For larger areas or near the house where I don't want to smell it, there's some stuff I get at the local farm store called Eraser that works infinitely better than Roundup and costs less. Keeps the ground bare for about45 days even with heavy rains. I like the goat idea though. I used to have a brush goat years ago, handy critter, but now days everybody around here selling goats thinks they are purebred show critters and want $100 for the things. Sheesh, who ever heard of a $100 goat. Robert Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: What is a good home brew or store bought spray to kill certain areas of vegetation? I know diesel works pretty good. Want to kill all living things in certain areas. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] REALLY nice 220D
JHFC! That is a nice enough car, but not a $16k car. clay On Jul 11, 2007, at 8:16 PM, John Robbins wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItemitem=160134919405 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] now this just flat gets me excited (mac content, but no mercedes)
What logic board? I am needing the second gen 667 VGA clay On Jul 11, 2007, at 8:53 PM, Sunil Hari wrote: i have a TON of powerbook G4 titanium parts - I'm parting an entire machine out. Anyone interested in any of the parts? On 7/11/07, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/sys/371556192.html On 7/11/07, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 23:04:22 -0400 Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i lost my t8 screwdriver though. grr You seem to have missed the Mac content, too ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi - for sale [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gump shift
Sorry, floor shift. The whole H pattern is off center and moved backward. If I am off a few splines would that screw it all up. What if all three are off increments? On Jul 12, 2007, at 3:31 PM, Craig McCluskey wrote: On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 14:29:19 -0700 Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got my parts order from Rusty (thanks Rusty) and got down to a few of the tasks the parts are for. The old shift bushings were dead, so I installed the new ones by first marking the position of the arm on the transmission, then removing that and cleaning it up and getting the old metal ring out and inserting the rubber bushing. Nasty little clips to keep the arm on the lever and much cussing, moving arm and lever about, and got them lined up to where I thought I had made the mark. Might have been a tooth or two off though. Now I can not get it to go into gear easily or to stay there. Also lost where neutral is and getting to reverse is a huge problem. I am going to sit down with the manual and see what it calls for. Any ideas from shade tree mechanics would be much helpful as well. We are doing the work on a 1972 220D with manual transmission. Floor or column shift? If it's floor shift, I can't see how you'd have problems, but then again ... I also have no experience with column shifts. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] REALLY nice 220D
JHFC! Now, that's a new one for me. What does it mean? Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gump shift
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 21:46:15 -0700 Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, floor shift. The whole H pattern is off center and moved backward. If I am off a few splines would that screw it all up. What if all three are off increments? The approach I would take would be: - block both front wheels and one rear wheel, front and back, - jack up the other rear wheel so it is clear of the ground and put that corner of the car on a sturdy stand, - shake the car to make sure it will remain up in the air, - crawl under the car and disconnect the linkages from the transmission shift levers, - turn the driveshaft a little with one hand and position each of the shift levers in its middle position, this will allow the driveshaft to rotate freely and establish where neutral is, - have someone carefully sit in the car, move the gearshift lever to the left to engage the 1-2 linkage and then slowly move it front and back while you watch the movement of the shift linkage - the movement should be centered around the position of the transmission's 1-2 shift lever. If not, you have a idea the direction the shift lever needs to be moved. - Repeat this with the person moving the inside gearshift lever to the right for the 3-4 linkage, - Conclude with the reverse linkage and correct transmission levers as necessary. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] killing weeds
We used to spray used motor oil on weeds back when it was not politically incorrect to do so. I like goats and like most other animals, they taste good. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Tara Ludwick Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 11:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] killing weeds The waste sludge leftover after filtering WVO and watery, nasty wvo not even fit for filtering is a wicked weed killer. Nothing grows there after for a very long time. For larger areas or near the house where I don't want to smell it, there's some stuff I get at the local farm store called Eraser that works infinitely better than Roundup and costs less. Keeps the ground bare for about45 days even with heavy rains. I like the goat idea though. I used to have a brush goat years ago, handy critter, but now days everybody around here selling goats thinks they are purebred show critters and want $100 for the things. Sheesh, who ever heard of a $100 goat. Robert Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: What is a good home brew or store bought spray to kill certain areas of vegetation? I know diesel works pretty good. Want to kill all living things in certain areas. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gump shift
Sorry, floor shift. The whole H pattern is off center and moved backward. If I am off a few splines would that screw it all up. What if all three are off increments? I'm not quite sure how this could have come to be. IIRC, the linkages are threaded, unless you twisted them in their mounts the new bushings should just pop in and you're off to the races. No length or geometry changes at all. What splines? Did I miss something? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] REALLY nice 220D
JHFC! Now, that's a new one for me. What does it mean? That would be Jesus H. F-ing Christ. Not quite sure of the origin of the expression. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
