Re: [MBZ] euro car question
Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:57:12 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin \(CAT\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote Subject: [MBZ] euro car question Is there a way to tell what country a euro car was originally sold in, or produced for? Will the VIN number or something reveal that - Sometimes, but not always AFAIK, a particular model is associated with a particular country, or there is a version of a particular model associated with a particular country. For example, 123.223 is a rest of the world Mercededs model not sold by Daimler Benz in the US. There is a Japanese version of 123.223, a German version, a Swedish version, a Swiss version, I think an Austrian version, and maybe others. They differ in detail from each other, most outstandingly in the engine compression ratio, Which is 9:1 in the German version and 8:1 in some others, particularly the Japanese version. Engine power is 100 KW on 9:1 engines and IIRC 86 KW on 8:1 engines. There are versions of 123.223 with 14 in. wheels and versions with 15 in. wheels for countries with bad roads. Similar with hard and standard suspensions. There are air cleaners for desert use. The list of relatively minor variations that are dispositive of the intended sale point of a car goes on and on. This kind of information is in little almost pocket size books published by Daimler Benz called Technical Data, Passenger Cars. I have a January 1983 edition, which is on point for my car, an August 1983 manufactured 123.223 German version. It was deliveed at Stuttgart to a US citizen who drove it around Europe for a couple of years and then imported it tothe US. It was federalized by some outfit in North Carolina. If companies that federalize euro cars still exist, they should know where a car came from. The information is also buried in the Electronic Parts Catalog, which US dealers have access to, but in my experience generally pull a Sergeant Schultz (I know nothing!! Nothing at all !!) when asked about euro parts. I think that if you have the book or access to the EPC, you can most likely identify what kind of euro car you have. At least you can get close. You can also email Mercedes Benz USA who can send you the datat card that identifies the original equipment on the car and the key codes. They clearly know more, and may be able to tell where it was delivered originally.. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] euro car question
Without having tested it, I'd say this is the truth coming out. And from the list curmudgeon, no less. Thank you Hendrik. I don't care what everybody says, you're OK at bottom. Cheers. -- Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:05:22 +1030 Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote Subject: Re: [MBZ] euro car question I believe that the VIN for a MB destined for use outside of the US is different. As such I don't know what the US type VIN will tell but I know the normal VIN will tell what country the car was sold in originally. This is handy to determine if a car is grey market or not. This site will work for most VIN numbers http://www.mbclub.ru/mb/vin/?lng=eng or http://www.benzworld.org/modelguide.html? Kaleb C. Striplin (CAT) wrote: Is there a way to tell what country a euro car was originally sold in, or produced for? Will the VIN number or something reveal that? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Diesel powered planes
Ethiopian Airlines Orders 10 Cessna 172TDs. Will Replace Older, Avgas-Powered XP Models Ethiopian Airlines announced this week a contract for 10 new turbo-diesel Skyhawks at the 2007 Dubai Air Show. Introduced last month at AOPA Expo 2007, the Cessna Skyhawk TD (turbo diesel) is a new variant of the erstwhile 172. The Skyhawk TD is powered by a 155 horsepower Centurion 2.0 diesel engine manufactured by Germany's Thielert Aircraft Engines Gmbh. The engine burns JetA-1 fuel, making it a popular option in countries where avgas is scarce. http://www.aero-news.net/news/genav.cfm?ContentBlockID=bf0e336f-14bd-4f06-96c7-b6cf1aa77d42 --- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] VAC LEAKS
- Original Message - From: Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Interesting. What kind of circumference would such a pump have? I'm guessing that submersible pumps are 3 or 4; probably 4. Is it inserted through the pipe or is a larger diameter hole dug with pump and pipes dropped through that? Slides right down the single pipe/casing AFAIK. What sort of current would such a pump require? 110v or 220v. I doubt if we are in such a dome because we are at the top of a hill that drops down to almost river level on all four sides within a mile or less. We certainly do have some hardpan in FL. When I dug a drain field for a bath I was installing in Lakeland [near Tampa] the 'uphill' end of the trench had water in it, and I was able to get to less than 1/2 inch [very carefully] of connecting the trenches with no seepage at all. Percolation rate through that stuff was almost nil. To use a spike stand sprinkler I had to take a hammer and screwdriver and pound a hole in the stuff and stand the sprinkler up in it. Fortunately it was only in a small part of the yard, but I had to extend the drain field another 10 feet to get past the hard pan so the thing would work. In my next life I plan to be rich enough to have the entire job done by the pros and not just the tank. I was fresh out of school then and the only option was sweat equity. BillR Hardpan around Tampa can be hard and thick. Three of us took turns driving a well in North Tampa years ago. After a day of taking turns hammering with a heavy sliding weight and making little progress, we called a welldigger. Another relatives well near Palm River was fairly easy. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel powered planes
Ethiopian Airlines is always my first choice when it comes to airline travel! BuhBye! --R archer wrote: Ethiopian Airlines Orders 10 Cessna 172TDs. Will Replace Older, Avgas-Powered XP Models Ethiopian Airlines announced this week a contract for 10 new turbo-diesel Skyhawks at the 2007 Dubai Air Show. Introduced last month at AOPA Expo 2007, the Cessna Skyhawk TD (turbo diesel) is a new variant of the erstwhile 172. The Skyhawk TD is powered by a 155 horsepower Centurion 2.0 diesel engine manufactured by Germany's Thielert Aircraft Engines Gmbh. The engine burns JetA-1 fuel, making it a popular option in countries where avgas is scarce. http://www.aero-news.net/news/genav.cfm?ContentBlockID=bf0e336f-14bd-4f06-96c7-b6cf1aa77d42 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] famous dave's bbq
andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks, Bob. This list is amazing - no reasonable question ever goes unanswered. Even the unreasonable questions often spawn long discussions Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Am I on crack...?
Joe, Your 300D looks very nice. If I were in the market, I would not hesitate at the price you set. The only downside I see is that it is a NA, but to some people, that is a positive. I happen to like turbos. Good luck Loren (No 123 300D at this time) At 02:06 PM 11/9/2007, you wrote: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/car/473707498.html Most probably but I've found a replacement so it's time to see what it'll bring. If it doesn't sell within a week or so for something close to this I'll probably list it on fleabay and let the chips fall where they may. -joe ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel powered planes
Cool - I had wondered whethre those German aviation turbo Diesels would actually appear in production planes.Now, why is an airline is buying four seat airplanes? On Nov 14, 2007 7:25 AM, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ethiopian Airlines Orders 10 Cessna 172TDs. Will Replace Older, Avgas-Powered XP Models Ethiopian Airlines announced this week a contract for 10 new turbo-diesel Skyhawks at the 2007 Dubai Air Show. Introduced last month at AOPA Expo 2007, the Cessna Skyhawk TD (turbo diesel) is a new variant of the erstwhile 172. The Skyhawk TD is powered by a 155 horsepower Centurion 2.0 diesel engine manufactured by Germany's Thielert Aircraft Engines Gmbh. The engine burns JetA-1 fuel, making it a popular option in countries where avgas is scarce. http://www.aero-news.net/news/genav.cfm?ContentBlockID=bf0e336f-14bd-4f06-96c7-b6cf1aa77d42 --- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] top 10 fave.was best benz
You left out the greatest all around Mercedes of all time - the W123 300TD turbodiesel wagon. Handles like a sports car Incredibly versatile Fast and powerful Rugged and durable Easy to work on Low cost repairs and parts Runs on a variety of fuels Did I mention that it handles like a sports car? On Nov 14, 2007 1:37 AM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, so many on the list here are taking great care of the earth with their diesels, so I may have to buy a few carbon points off them to run my list. :-) W140 600 CL AMG optioned. W126 560 SEL W124 320 TE W124 500 E W123 300 TDT W??? 450 SEL 6.9 W100 600 SWB G55 SLR Unimog Well, there you go. Those are the ones I'd like in my garage. :-) Ed 300E On 14/11/2007, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, do you want to hear my top 10 list? :-) Of course! Beats another oil thread... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Repair of leaking door actuator
If it provides a seal to the shaft, couldn't a person seal it to the shaft and provide more service? Use some adhesive or silicone. Jim?? No. They fail first where they move most, which is in the body where they crumple up each time they operate. You can goop over them, but it won't last long. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] top 10 fave.was best benz
I think it's there, #5. :-) Ed 300E On 14/11/2007, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You left out the greatest all around Mercedes of all time - the W123 300TD turbodiesel wagon. Handles like a sports car Incredibly versatile Fast and powerful Rugged and durable Easy to work on Low cost repairs and parts Runs on a variety of fuels Did I mention that it handles like a sports car? On Nov 14, 2007 1:37 AM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, so many on the list here are taking great care of the earth with their diesels, so I may have to buy a few carbon points off them to run my list. :-) W140 600 CL AMG optioned. W126 560 SEL W124 320 TE W124 500 E W123 300 TDT W??? 450 SEL 6.9 W100 600 SWB G55 SLR Unimog Well, there you go. Those are the ones I'd like in my garage. :-) Ed 300E On 14/11/2007, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, do you want to hear my top 10 list? :-) Of course! Beats another oil thread... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 14 wheel options - 300SD...any?
Christopher McCann wrote: Do I have anything to chose from other than my bundts? I don't want to change the size because it will throw off my speedo, odo, trip meter, etc...and I don't want to fiddle with anything to make them read correctly with 15 rims. If you get a lower profile tire you can get within 1-2% of the original tire diameter with 15 wheels. http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html I have 15 wheels instead of bundts on my '79 300SD... looks much better and no change in the speedometer. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 14 wheel options - 300SD...any?
Do I have anything to chose from other than my bundts? I don't want to change the size because it will throw off my speedo, odo, trip meter, etc...and I don't want to fiddle with anything to make them read correctly with 15 rims. Thanks, Chris Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 368K km, Wulf -1992 350 Ram Wagon, 58K miles, The Behemoth - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] top 10 fave.was best benz
handles like what sports car? A pinto? :) --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 8:52 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] top 10 fave.was best benz You left out the greatest all around Mercedes of all time - the W123 300TD turbodiesel wagon. Handles like a sports car Incredibly versatile Fast and powerful Rugged and durable Easy to work on Low cost repairs and parts Runs on a variety of fuels Did I mention that it handles like a sports car? On Nov 14, 2007 1:37 AM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, so many on the list here are taking great care of the earth with their diesels, so I may have to buy a few carbon points off them to run my list. :-) W140 600 CL AMG optioned. W126 560 SEL W124 320 TE W124 500 E W123 300 TDT W??? 450 SEL 6.9 W100 600 SWB G55 SLR Unimog Well, there you go. Those are the ones I'd like in my garage. :-) Ed 300E On 14/11/2007, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, do you want to hear my top 10 list? :-) Of course! Beats another oil thread... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 14 wheel options - 300SD...any?
The most popular upgrade for the early 126's is to install the later 15 flat face wheels. I dont really know of any sort of upgrade that stays with 14 wheels. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 9:25 AM Subject: [MBZ] 14 wheel options - 300SD...any? Do I have anything to chose from other than my bundts? I don't want to change the size because it will throw off my speedo, odo, trip meter, etc...and I don't want to fiddle with anything to make them read correctly with 15 rims. Thanks, Chris Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 368K km, Wulf -1992 350 Ram Wagon, 58K miles, The Behemoth - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 14 wheel options - 300SD...any?
That is ingenious! What are the specs on the tire? THANKS!! Chris John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christopher McCann wrote: Do I have anything to chose from other than my bundts? I don't want to change the size because it will throw off my speedo, odo, trip meter, etc...and I don't want to fiddle with anything to make them read correctly with 15 rims. If you get a lower profile tire you can get within 1-2% of the original tire diameter with 15 wheels. http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html I have 15 wheels instead of bundts on my '79 300SD... looks much better and no change in the speedometer. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 368K km, Wulf -1992 350 Ram Wagon, 58K miles, The Behemoth - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Repair of leaking door actuator
Thx Craig - Gotta get me some of those boots! When I replaced the truck element in my W123 one of the boots would have repaired it. But the Fuel FIller Door Element on my W124 that I replaced this morning had a leave internally and there was no boot as shown. I wonder how wide a range of vehicles these boots work on? I believe I have a leaking element in the pasenger door of my W124 (91 300D) so I'm hopeing I can repair it for $2 rather than spending the $30+ for a new element. I;ll look at the WSM to see what the element looks like - or Rustys catalog. Thx for the info -- ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 11:27 PM Subject: [MBZ] Repair of leaking door actuator In the recent discussions of leaking vacuum door lock systems, Larry said, You probably have a bad element somewhere - the rubber diaphragms are damaged moe often than the rubber or plastic hoses. The element diaphrams get torn and leak. In my experience, however, it's not the diaphragms inside the actuator that leak, but the cover that seals the actuating shaft to the plastic body of the actuator. In this case, the leak is when you try to open the doors. I've attached photographs of tonight's repair of my second broken W123 door actuator (I now have a spare). Photograph 1 shows a failed door actuator with a failed attempt at repairing with a plastic sandwich bag. Photograph 2 shows the bag of Bosch parts used for the repair (one for each actuator). The Bosch part number is 3 340 522 025. These are available online from Rock Auto (http://www.rockauto.com). Do a part number search for that Bosch part number and you'll get a search result that allows you to buy the item. They're $1.85 each and come in bags of 5. I bought 3, so 2 were taken out before it was shipped. The shipping charge is more than the part. Photograph 3 shows the Bosch part. This was intended to seal an electrical connection, with the wire coming out the small end. Photograph 4 shows the repair in progress, with a pair of needle-nosed pliers being used to hold the actuating shaft up so the seal can be forced down over it. Photograph 5 shows the finished repair and now functional door actuator. The seal is a little longer than needed but seems to work just fine. Craig -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: door.lock.actuator.repair.1.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 172393 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20071112/b3acfa8f/attachment.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: door.lock.actuator.repair.2.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 173338 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20071112/b3acfa8f/attachment-0001.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: door.lock.actuator.repair.3.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 178210 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20071112/b3acfa8f/attachment-0002.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: door.lock.actuator.repair.4.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 169244 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20071112/b3acfa8f/attachment-0003.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: door.lock.actuator.repair.5.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 162804 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20071112/b3acfa8f/attachment-0004.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.31/1128 - Release Date: 11/13/2007 11:09 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] top 10 fave.was best benz
More like a TR6 or Miata, or at least mine does. I may be selling it soon, too. Who's interested? It has 282 k miles and some rust, but drives great and the AC blows ICE COLD. (I just had to write that) On Nov 14, 2007 10:14 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: handles like what sports car? A pinto? :) --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 8:52 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] top 10 fave.was best benz You left out the greatest all around Mercedes of all time - the W123 300TD turbodiesel wagon. Handles like a sports car Incredibly versatile Fast and powerful Rugged and durable Easy to work on Low cost repairs and parts Runs on a variety of fuels Did I mention that it handles like a sports car? On Nov 14, 2007 1:37 AM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, so many on the list here are taking great care of the earth with their diesels, so I may have to buy a few carbon points off them to run my list. :-) W140 600 CL AMG optioned. W126 560 SEL W124 320 TE W124 500 E W123 300 TDT W??? 450 SEL 6.9 W100 600 SWB G55 SLR Unimog Well, there you go. Those are the ones I'd like in my garage. :-) Ed 300E On 14/11/2007, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, do you want to hear my top 10 list? :-) Of course! Beats another oil thread... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel powered planes
Left our a word or two: One wonders if EAL and other third world airlines that purchase these aircraft will economize on fuel filter replacement, resulting in a possible compromise of fuel delivery mid-flight, with unhappy consequences On Nov 14, 2007 11:14 AM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One wonders if economize on fuel filter replacement, resulting in a possible compromise of fuel delivery mid-flight. On Nov 14, 2007 9:16 AM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cool - I had wondered whethre those German aviation turbo Diesels would actually appear in production planes.Now, why is an airline is buying four seat airplanes? On Nov 14, 2007 7:25 AM, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ethiopian Airlines Orders 10 Cessna 172TDs. Will Replace Older, Avgas-Powered XP Models Ethiopian Airlines announced this week a contract for 10 new turbo-diesel Skyhawks at the 2007 Dubai Air Show. Introduced last month at AOPA Expo 2007, the Cessna Skyhawk TD (turbo diesel) is a new variant of the erstwhile 172. The Skyhawk TD is powered by a 155 horsepower Centurion 2.0 diesel engine manufactured by Germany's Thielert Aircraft Engines Gmbh. The engine burns JetA-1 fuel, making it a popular option in countries where avgas is scarce. http://www.aero-news.net/news/genav.cfm?ContentBlockID=bf0e336f-14bd-4f06-96c7-b6cf1aa77d42 --- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 14 wheel options - 300SD...any?
They fit just fine, there is no conflict. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 14 wheel options - 300SD...any? I asked about this a couple weeks ago regarding snow tires, some said the flat 15 rims off the SEL might conflict on the SD. I measured the flat ones the other day, they had 4 3/4 offset from the inside face of the center to the outer edge of the inner side (what is that, like 120mm?). Where do you measure to get the actual diameter? The largest edge-edge dimension was about 16, the inside-inside dimension was about 15 which I guess is what they are. --R Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: The most popular upgrade for the early 126's is to install the later 15 flat face wheels. I dont really know of any sort of upgrade that stays with 14 wheels. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 9:25 AM Subject: [MBZ] 14 wheel options - 300SD...any? Do I have anything to chose from other than my bundts? I don't want to change the size because it will throw off my speedo, odo, trip meter, etc...and I don't want to fiddle with anything to make them read correctly with 15 rims. Thanks, Chris ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel powered planes
They're for it's training school. I wonder if these engines use the same block/head as those in some Mercedes?: The engine is a two-liter adaptation of a Daimler automotive diesel that's been re-engineered for aviation use. It's a dual overhead cam, in-line four-cylinder engine that puts out 155 hp. It comes with full authority digital engine control and is turbocharged. The liquid-cooled engine drives a three-bladed, composite constant speed prop.snip http://www.dieselair.com/ Gerry Cool - I had wondered whethre those German aviation turbo Diesels would actually appear in production planes.Now, why is an airline is buying four seat airplanes? On Nov 14, 2007 7:25 AM, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ethiopian Airlines Orders 10 Cessna 172TDs. Will Replace Older, Avgas-Powered XP Models Ethiopian Airlines announced this week a contract for 10 new turbo-diesel Skyhawks at the 2007 Dubai Air Show. Introduced last month at AOPA Expo 2007, the Cessna Skyhawk TD (turbo diesel) is a new variant of the erstwhile 172. The Skyhawk TD is powered by a 155 horsepower Centurion 2.0 diesel engine manufactured by Germany's Thielert Aircraft Engines Gmbh. The engine burns JetA-1 fuel, making it a popular option in countries where avgas is scarce. http://www.aero-news.net/news/genav.cfm?ContentBlockID=bf0e336f-14bd-4f06-96c7-b6cf1aa77d42 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel powered planes
One wonders if economize on fuel filter replacement, resulting in a possible compromise of fuel delivery mid-flight. On Nov 14, 2007 9:16 AM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cool - I had wondered whethre those German aviation turbo Diesels would actually appear in production planes.Now, why is an airline is buying four seat airplanes? On Nov 14, 2007 7:25 AM, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ethiopian Airlines Orders 10 Cessna 172TDs. Will Replace Older, Avgas-Powered XP Models Ethiopian Airlines announced this week a contract for 10 new turbo-diesel Skyhawks at the 2007 Dubai Air Show. Introduced last month at AOPA Expo 2007, the Cessna Skyhawk TD (turbo diesel) is a new variant of the erstwhile 172. The Skyhawk TD is powered by a 155 horsepower Centurion 2.0 diesel engine manufactured by Germany's Thielert Aircraft Engines Gmbh. The engine burns JetA-1 fuel, making it a popular option in countries where avgas is scarce. http://www.aero-news.net/news/genav.cfm?ContentBlockID=bf0e336f-14bd-4f06-96c7-b6cf1aa77d42 --- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Just another struggling little German company...
Ed wrote 911SC, and maybe another one on the way. :-) Could it be??? Is it True?? Are congratulation in order? Do you know who the father is? I always heard them called pregnant roller skates - now I know why - Actually you're pretty lucky - most people are forced to spend big bucks for a new Porsche - Have you lined up a midwife? Natural birth or medicated? Hmmm,... dare I ask? Boy or girl? I guess sometimes wearing protection is not the preferred method. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 12:53 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Just another struggling little German company... many feel they kind of missed the mark with the quality when they got into the 996, Box era, and I'm one of them. Saved the company, brought in a lot of new customers, and money, so it all went according to plan. I know I wouldn't want one of those cars. One models I like now are the Carrera GT and the GT3. No interest in owning a CGT, like that would happen anyway, but glad they built it, if for no other reason than the remind ppl, you can still build an exotic super car with a stick shift, and not those stupid paddle flipper things. I was a loyal customers when the company was going bust, so not sure my input really counts for much to them. :-) 300E 911SC, and maybe another one on the way. :-) On 14/11/2007, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some people equate cheaper wiith lower quality but faster and cheaper is not a bad thing as long as quality is not compromised. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11/13/07 09:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Just another struggling little German company... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= they just sent some guys to Japan to show them how to make them faster and cheaper. :-) Ed 300E On 13/11/2007, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, Porsche was a struggling (and almost dead) company not too many years ago. It's refreshing to see Capitalism at work. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11/13/07 02:26 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Just another struggling little German company... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Stuttgart. In its session today, the Supervisory Board of Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG, Stuttgart, confirmed the pre-tax earnings of the Porsche Group in the 2006/07 year of business, achieving a record figure of Euro 5.857 billion, up very significantly from the previous year's figure of Euro 2.110 billion. RLE ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.31/1130 - Release Date: 11/14/2007 9:27 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 14 wheel options - 300SD...any?
I asked about this a couple weeks ago regarding snow tires, some said the flat 15 rims off the SEL might conflict on the SD. I measured the flat ones the other day, they had 4 3/4 offset from the inside face of the center to the outer edge of the inner side (what is that, like 120mm?). Where do you measure to get the actual diameter? The largest edge-edge dimension was about 16, the inside-inside dimension was about 15 which I guess is what they are. --R Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: The most popular upgrade for the early 126's is to install the later 15 flat face wheels. I dont really know of any sort of upgrade that stays with 14 wheels. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 9:25 AM Subject: [MBZ] 14 wheel options - 300SD...any? Do I have anything to chose from other than my bundts? I don't want to change the size because it will throw off my speedo, odo, trip meter, etc...and I don't want to fiddle with anything to make them read correctly with 15 rims. Thanks, Chris ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] famous dave's bbq
a lot of people don't like it but i kinda do. there is so much knowledge here and much of it hasn't the vaguest connection to automobiles. as i try to explain to my kid everyday -- why not learn something for a change? On Nov 14, 2007 9:06 AM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks, Bob. This list is amazing - no reasonable question ever goes unanswered. Even the unreasonable questions often spawn long discussions Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel powered planes
Diesels run on all kinds of fuels too, no? -R andrew strasfogel wrote: Left our a word or two: One wonders if EAL and other third world airlines that purchase these aircraft will economize on fuel filter replacement, resulting in a possible compromise of fuel delivery mid-flight, with unhappy consequences ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel powered planes
Ethiopian Airlines Orders 10 Cessna 172TDs. Will Replace Older, Avgas-Powered XP Models Ethiopian Airlines announced this week a contract for 10 new turbo-diesel Skyhawks at the 2007 Dubai Air Show. Introduced last month at AOPA Expo 2007, the Cessna Skyhawk TD (turbo diesel) is a new variant of the erstwhile 172. The Skyhawk TD is powered by a 155 horsepower Centurion 2.0 diesel engine manufactured by Germany's Thielert Aircraft Engines Gmbh. The engine burns JetA-1 fuel, making it a popular option in countries where avgas is scarce. AND based on a Mercedes engine. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centurion_engine At airventure 2006 the valve cover said mercedes, don't know if thats still the case. Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] top 10 fave.was best benz
Message: 10 Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:14:43 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] top 10 fave.was best benz To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original handles like what sports car? A pinto? :) --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor Ya beat me to it. My memories of my '85 TD are of a heavy car that liked to roll and lumber more than handle, combined with 70 series tires that didn't help things. The 116 300sd I had seemed (relatively) much more nimble. Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rear Axle Fluid Change
Any idea where I might find one? I may have to cut off a 14mm Allen Wrench and put it in a socket. Thx - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Frederick W Moir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 10:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear Axle Fluid Change Try Hazet Oil Service Wrench #2567-1 it's da bomb. Fred Moir Tried to have a local shop replace my rear axle fluid recently. His allen wrench would not clear the other stuff around the rear axle and engage the socket properly. So I drive there with my tools and we tried mine - but the only one I had in a 14mmm IIRC was a standard L wrench. Has anyone tried to remove the fill plug on a 91 300D 2.5?Would really like to put the Mobil 1 Synthetic I have in the axle - Any ideas about what kind of Allen Wrench *will work? Maybe a 14mm stub of allen into a socket with a universal? Thx - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.31/1128 - Release Date: 11/13/2007 11:09 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] top 10 fave.was best benz
you wrote -- memories of my '85 TD are of a heavy car that liked to roll and lumber more than handle Sounds like a W107 -- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Tony Wirtel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] top 10 fave.was best benz Message: 10 Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:14:43 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] top 10 fave.was best benz To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original handles like what sports car? A pinto? :) --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor Ya beat me to it. My memories of my '85 TD are of a heavy car that liked to roll and lumber more than handle, combined with 70 series tires that didn't help things. The 116 300sd I had seemed (relatively) much more nimble. Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.31/1130 - Release Date: 11/14/2007 9:27 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rear Axle Fluid Change
LarryT wrote: Any idea where I might find one? I may have to cut off a 14mm Allen Wrench and put it in a socket. Going to order from Rusty any time soon? I got the 12,14,17mm hex bit socket set at Autozone for $10, made a note of how far the 14mm went into a diff plug, and cut the shaft down to slightly longer than the depth of the hole in the plug. Then I put the leftover piece in a box end wrench to turn the tranny fill plug on my W201, which I could not use any square drive tool/handle combo on. Not familiar with your 124 diff clearance, but it can't be any worse than the manny tranny on a 16v. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT - 6.2 diesel suburban gotchas
I'm eyeing a mid '80s Suburban. I own a gasoline-powered one, but it's wearing out and I'd rather have a diesel. But I've never owned a GM diesel. So what thing do I need to look at or ask about? Are there there any wicked or expensive common failure modes? Other advise? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - 6.2 diesel suburban gotchas
Check out gm-diesel.com. I have had several and never had a problem with one. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes list mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 11:29 AM Subject: [MBZ] OT - 6.2 diesel suburban gotchas I'm eyeing a mid '80s Suburban. I own a gasoline-powered one, but it's wearing out and I'd rather have a diesel. But I've never owned a GM diesel. So what thing do I need to look at or ask about? Are there there any wicked or expensive common failure modes? Other advise? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] famous dave's bbq
I would have to say about 300 miles. That and less smoke and heat on the St. Louis. clay On 13 Nov 2007, at 13:33, Gary Hurst wrote: i have no idea what differentiates a st louis rib from a kansas city rib. the ribs i had were large, meaty with a nicely spicy wet sauce. On Nov 13, 2007 4:31 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WTF are St. Louis ribs? Piled on the plate in the shape of an arch? On Nov 12, 2007 10:10 AM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if you ever ate real pizza, you wouldn't be talking this way On Nov 12, 2007 9:09 AM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: guess there is a lesson here, but dont' take it so far as to be ordering dominoes pizza in new york city Domino's used to be not half bad, until they replaced their deck ovens with automatic conveyorized ones. Easier (and safer) for the staff, but makes a totally generic pizza. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 126 Gasser
Here is a high mileage 126 gas car looks pretty nice, the price is right and if you are in the Midwest, it is close. No affiliation http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1989-Mercedes-Benz-560SEL-Sedan-Very-Good -Cond-Classic_W0QQitemZ290181469718QQihZ019QQcategoryZ6332QQssPageNameZW DVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] NICE 240 Manual trans on Ebay
Ebay Item # 26018194 No affiliation - just thought it looked like a nice car. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1984-ONLY-67-000-MILES-4-SPEED-TRULY-ONE- OF-A-KIND_W0QQitemZ26018194QQihZ016QQcategoryZ6329QQssPageNameZWDVWQ QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify me. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 Gasser
High mileage? Heck, thats low mileage. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 11:48 AM Subject: [MBZ] 126 Gasser Here is a high mileage 126 gas car looks pretty nice, the price is right and if you are in the Midwest, it is close. No affiliation http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1989-Mercedes-Benz-560SEL-Sedan-Very-Good -Cond-Classic_W0QQitemZ290181469718QQihZ019QQcategoryZ6332QQssPageNameZW DVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] MB in the movies
Primal Fear, features a early 123 300CD --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT - 6.2 diesel suburban gotchas
Phillip wrote: So what thing do I need to look at or ask about? Are there there any wicked or expensive common failure modes? I don't know that much about these, HOWEVER, when I worked at the dealership we still had a few of these come in from previous days as a GMC truck dealer. The common complaint that I heard about was intake gaskets going bad pretty frequently. I have also heard of IP going bad (but the good thing is they are cheap to get a replacement). GM diesels are not as bad as their reputation especially the newer ones. The GM engine will be very durable if you do things a Mercedes diesel owner does, i.e. be diligent about fuel quality, fuel filter replacement, FREQUENT coolant flushes, and oil change intervals appropriate for the type of oil you are using. I also remember the glow plug relay failing a lot. I think Kaleb has (or had) one of these, so he can probably offer better advice. The 6.5 engine in the later models (starting in 1992 IIRC) was a better engine, produced more power and a turbocharged version was available. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] NICE 240 Manual trans on Ebay
probably to cover up the rust? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] NICE 240 Manual trans on Ebay Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ebay Item # 26018194 No affiliation - just thought it looked like a nice car. Why does it look like its had a lot of black spray paint applied to the rockers? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1984-ONLY-67-000-MILES-4-SPEED-TRULY-ONE-OF-A-KIND_W0QQitemZ26018194QQihZ016QQcategoryZ6329QQssPageNameZWDVWQ QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rear Axle Fluid Change
Thx Mitch - Sounds like a plan. Yep, clearence is the problem - not enough space for a typical L shaped Allen wrench. A socket and cut off wrench should do the trick. Later - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 12:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear Axle Fluid Change LarryT wrote: Any idea where I might find one? I may have to cut off a 14mm Allen Wrench and put it in a socket. Going to order from Rusty any time soon? I got the 12,14,17mm hex bit socket set at Autozone for $10, made a note of how far the 14mm went into a diff plug, and cut the shaft down to slightly longer than the depth of the hole in the plug. Then I put the leftover piece in a box end wrench to turn the tranny fill plug on my W201, which I could not use any square drive tool/handle combo on. Not familiar with your 124 diff clearance, but it can't be any worse than the manny tranny on a 16v. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.31/1130 - Release Date: 11/14/2007 9:27 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] NICE 240 Manual trans on Ebay
Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ebay Item # 26018194 No affiliation - just thought it looked like a nice car. Why does it look like its had a lot of black spray paint applied to the rockers? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1984-ONLY-67-000-MILES-4-SPEED-TRULY-ONE-OF-A-KIND_W0QQitemZ26018194QQihZ016QQcategoryZ6329QQssPageNameZWDVWQ QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] replacing water pump
Go ahead and plan to replace the short piece of hose between the water pump (or is it the block? working from memory here) and the thermostat housing while you're in there. If it hasn't been replaced in a while, it's surely easier to do now than later. Gary Thompson 1995 E320 On 11/13/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, I'll be replacing the water pump on my 300D -- any tips on removing the old one, I've had trouble in the past separating the pump from the pump housing. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel in the sky
Cool - I had wondered whether those German aviation turbo Diesels would actually appear in production planes. Now, why is an airline is buying four seat airplanes? Training. RLE ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] replacing water pump
Gary Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Go ahead and plan to replace the short piece of hose between the water pump (or is it the block? working from memory here) and the thermostat housing while you're in there. If it hasn't been replaced in a while, it's surely easier to do now than later. Actually I'm pretty sure that was replaced a year or so ago when I got a new thermostat -- was too busy at the time and had my indy do it -- I'll double check. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Porsche scraping along
they just sent some guys to Japan to show them how to make them faster and cheaper. :-) Ed, this is what happens when all you read are your own posts. As I posted some time back, more than twelve years ago Porsche openly hired a Japanese consulting company to come in and redesign the factory (from the German way of doing things) to lower costs and raise efficiency. As a result, production cost of the 993 was cut by a third and soon after, the first zero defects car was built in the company's history. And today, Porsche's profit per unit is the highest in the industry, worldwide. Which is also why I bought a new Mercedes instead of a Boxster or Cayman. RLE ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] To those more compu-literate than I
I'm still having problems with gmail, this all started about two weeks ago when trying to open the okiebenz gmail link gave me the following warning after about 35 sec. (Note: After a few months back when others also were complaining of gmail taking too long to open, my original total time to open this link was around 26 sec. . . . I'm using a phone line): *** This seems to be taking longer than usual. If you are using a slow Internet connection, you can wait a bit longer for this page to finish loading, or just use basic HTML view for now. If you are using your normal Internet connection and you usually get past this loading step without any problems, please refresh this page in your browser. If you continue to have trouble loading your account, please visit the help center for troubleshooting information. *** Note: I've visited the help center and performed what was suggested with no change. The okiebenz link will finally open in 45 sec. – 1.5 min., and the submissions link takes around 30 sec., but I'm also having problems sending relatively small jpeg files (e.g., 788K) as I get a #001 error message and the lousy system will not save the draft either as the same error message is displayed. I can send the jpg files via hotmail, but hotmail auto reduces the size such that the jpg file is only sufficient for viewing on a monitor, nothing beyond that. Any ideas? TIA. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Combustion improving inventions
Check this one out, about halfway down the page --R http://www.ideatango.com/component/option,com_sobi2/catid,15/Itemid,/limit,5/limitstart,5/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 Gasser
Wonder why no bids? They also have a very cool 1969 Ford Torino coupe that is equally droolworthy. On Nov 14, 2007 1:01 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: High mileage? Heck, thats low mileage. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 11:48 AM Subject: [MBZ] 126 Gasser Here is a high mileage 126 gas car looks pretty nice, the price is right and if you are in the Midwest, it is close. No affiliation http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1989-Mercedes-Benz-560SEL-Sedan-Very-Good -Cond-Classic_W0QQitemZ290181469718QQihZ019QQcategoryZ6332QQssPageNameZW DVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel in the sky
Training for what? On Nov 14, 2007 2:50 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cool - I had wondered whether those German aviation turbo Diesels would actually appear in production planes. Now, why is an airline is buying four seat airplanes? Training. RLE ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rear Axle Fluid Change
On my 1983 300TD and 1985 300CD the basic standard-issue L-shaped Mercedes oil filter/pan hex wrench works perfectly. I think it's 14 mm. On Nov 14, 2007 1:45 PM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thx Mitch - Sounds like a plan. Yep, clearence is the problem - not enough space for a typical L shaped Allen wrench. A socket and cut off wrench should do the trick. Later - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 12:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear Axle Fluid Change LarryT wrote: Any idea where I might find one? I may have to cut off a 14mm Allen Wrench and put it in a socket. Going to order from Rusty any time soon? I got the 12,14,17mm hex bit socket set at Autozone for $10, made a note of how far the 14mm went into a diff plug, and cut the shaft down to slightly longer than the depth of the hole in the plug. Then I put the leftover piece in a box end wrench to turn the tranny fill plug on my W201, which I could not use any square drive tool/handle combo on. Not familiar with your 124 diff clearance, but it can't be any worse than the manny tranny on a 16v. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.31/1130 - Release Date: 11/14/2007 9:27 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] New developments in Hydrogen as a fuel
This is interesting... http://www.psu.edu/ur/2007/biohydrogen.htm -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] To those more compu-literate than I
It appears you are trying to do something with Gmail on-line, and there is a lot of crap that is trying to load on your slow cnxn. Load Thunderbird as an email client and do your mail off-line, or with the sending/getting working in the background. Just leave Tbird running, set to get mail when you start it and send it when you send it. Just get your mail off the Gmail server, and send to it, do your reading/replying/creating in Tbird. --R Glenn Brown wrote: I'm still having problems with gmail, this all started about two weeks ago when trying to open the okiebenz gmail link gave me the following warning after about 35 sec. (Note: After a few months back when others also were complaining of gmail taking too long to open, my original total time to open this link was around 26 sec. . . . I'm using a phone line): *** This seems to be taking longer than usual. If you are using a slow Internet connection, you can wait a bit longer for this page to finish loading, or just use basic HTML view for now. If you are using your normal Internet connection and you usually get past this loading step without any problems, please refresh this page in your browser. If you continue to have trouble loading your account, please visit the help center for troubleshooting information. *** Note: I've visited the help center and performed what was suggested with no change. The okiebenz link will finally open in 45 sec. – 1.5 min., and the submissions link takes around 30 sec., but I'm also having problems sending relatively small jpeg files (e.g., 788K) as I get a #001 error message and the lousy system will not save the draft either as the same error message is displayed. I can send the jpg files via hotmail, but hotmail auto reduces the size such that the jpg file is only sufficient for viewing on a monitor, nothing beyond that. Any ideas? TIA. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 Gasser
I dont know. I cant hardly give away my super clean 90 420SEL. Its down to $2995 now, if somebody wants it they can have it for $2500. In normal times it would be selling for 4-5k. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 3:13 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 Gasser Wonder why no bids? They also have a very cool 1969 Ford Torino coupe that is equally droolworthy. On Nov 14, 2007 1:01 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: High mileage? Heck, thats low mileage. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 11:48 AM Subject: [MBZ] 126 Gasser Here is a high mileage 126 gas car looks pretty nice, the price is right and if you are in the Midwest, it is close. No affiliation http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1989-Mercedes-Benz-560SEL-Sedan-Very-Good -Cond-Classic_W0QQitemZ290181469718QQihZ019QQcategoryZ6332QQssPageNameZW DVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 Gasser
Here is a link to the craigslist ad with a link to all the pics http://tulsa.craigslist.org/car/476369353.html --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 3:40 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 Gasser Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I cant hardly give away my super clean 90 420SEL. Its down to $2995 now, if somebody wants it they can have it for $2500. In normal times it would be selling for 4-5k. Can you post the link to photos, again (as I recall there are some...) Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 Gasser
Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: Here is a link to the craigslist ad with a link to all the pics Looks like a nice realtor's car. Why isn't Regina driving it? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel in the sky
The Skyhawk TD was selected by Ethiopian Airlines to replace its current training fleet of 10 Cessna 172XPs. Ethiopian Airlines lauded the Skyhawk TD as a more economical aircraft that, along with the standard Garmin G1000 avionics suite, made it the logical choice for the modernization of its fleet. These aircraft will be used in ab-initio airline training and represent the first fleet of the new Skyhawk TDs ordered by a major airline training school. We feel that the early acceptance of this aircraft in the training market is the beginning of a trend we are confident will continue to spread throughout the world, said Bob Gibbs, Cessna's director of International Propeller Aircraft Sales. Established in 1964, Ethiopian Airlines' Pilot Training School, based in Addis Ababa, is one of the premier training organizations in Africa. Africair, Inc. is the Cessna distributor for 41 countries in Africa and has been selling and supporting the full range of Cessna products in Africa since 1968. FMI: www.cessna.com For the WHOLE story, go to http://www.aero-news.net/news/genav.cfm?ContentBlockID=bf0e336f-14bd-4f06-96c7-b6cf1aa77d42 --- - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Training for what? Cool - I had wondered whether those German aviation turbo Diesels would actually appear in production planes. Now, why is an airline is buying four seat airplanes? Training. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel in the sky
Is a diesel engine burning Jet-A more reliable/efficient/cheaper/lighter than a turboprop? What's the advantage? archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Skyhawk TD was selected by Ethiopian Airlines to replace its current training fleet of 10 Cessna 172XPs. Ethiopian Airlines lauded the Skyhawk TD as a more economical aircraft that, along with the standard Garmin G1000 avionics suite, made it the logical choice for the modernization of its fleet. These aircraft will be used in ab-initio airline training and represent the first fleet of the new Skyhawk TDs ordered by a major airline training school. We feel that the early acceptance of this aircraft in the training market is the beginning of a trend we are confident will continue to spread throughout the world, said Bob Gibbs, Cessna's director of International Propeller Aircraft Sales. Established in 1964, Ethiopian Airlines' Pilot Training School, based in Addis Ababa, is one of the premier training organizations in Africa. Africair, Inc. is the Cessna distributor for 41 countries in Africa and has been selling and supporting the full range of Cessna products in Africa since 1968. FMI: www.cessna.com -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 Gasser
Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I cant hardly give away my super clean 90 420SEL. Its down to $2995 now, if somebody wants it they can have it for $2500. In normal times it would be selling for 4-5k. Can you post the link to photos, again (as I recall there are some...) Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 Gasser
Hell, she has a 140 to drive. She doenst seem to like 126's. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 3:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 Gasser Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: Here is a link to the craigslist ad with a link to all the pics Looks like a nice realtor's car. Why isn't Regina driving it? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 Gasser
That does look nice; the white leather doesn't do much for me though. I've got 3 kids. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here is a link to the craigslist ad with a link to all the pics http://tulsa.craigslist.org/car/476369353.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel in the sky
Cheaper and more efficient, but less reliable and probably heavier than a turboprop engine. IIRC from reading about the engines last year, they will also burn regular diesel which is cheaper than Jet-A. I'm curious about the origin of the engine. Is it a modified Mercedes auto engine I wonder? Gerry - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is a diesel engine burning Jet-A more reliable/efficient/cheaper/lighter than a turboprop? What's the advantage? archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Skyhawk TD was selected by Ethiopian Airlines to replace its current training fleet of 10 Cessna 172XPs. Ethiopian Airlines lauded the Skyhawk TD as a more economical aircraft that, along with the standard Garmin G1000 avionics suite, made it the logical choice for the modernization of its fleet. These aircraft will be used in ab-initio airline training and represent the first fleet of the new Skyhawk TDs ordered by a major airline training school. We feel that the early acceptance of this aircraft in the training market is the beginning of a trend we are confident will continue to spread throughout the world, said Bob Gibbs, Cessna's director of International Propeller Aircraft Sales. Established in 1964, Ethiopian Airlines' Pilot Training School, based in Addis Ababa, is one of the premier training organizations in Africa. Africair, Inc. is the Cessna distributor for 41 countries in Africa and has been selling and supporting the full range of Cessna products in Africa since 1968. FMI: www.cessna.com -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.30/1127 - Release Date: 11/12/2007 9:19 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] jabba considers adding a second dog
Cool. I was wondering about that. I've been wanting to meet this German Shepherd I see in this yard that barks a lot but looks so lonely. I think I'll just go ahead and pet him like I've been wanting to. Thanks Gary. Brian On 11/13/07, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what the hell kind of mike vick dog world do you guys live in? these dogs don't go around biting people. for the most part they are just like little children. they like you and seek your approval. unless a dog is badly provoked or trained to attack, they aren't going to bite you. On Nov 13, 2007 6:34 PM, ernest breakfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this one looks like a cutey, and i'm all for rescuing dogs; our Malinois/Lab mix was a rescue dog, and after some time to recover from what was obviously an abusive start, she's become a wonderful critter to have around the house (and the office, and pretty much anywhere else we go). however, Brian raises an excellent point about the biting issue that reminded me of something; you might want to check with your homeowners/renters/business insurance to see if this dog might affect your rates, because the list of breeds that Insurance companies are classifying as High Risk would surprise most people, and it seems to be growing longer all the time. cheers! e Zoltan Finks wrote: Andrew, I think you must be talking about when I wrote the breed is one of the most likely to bite though. Unless I'm missing something. [snip] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - 6.2 diesel suburban gotchas
And drank more fuel in accordance. The 6.2 made just shy of 150hp IIRC which as far as I'm concerned is plenty unless I'm working with really heavy loads, I'm not in a hurry. I'd like to transplant one into an S-truck. My '88 S15 had the little 2.8l v6 which made IIRC around 100hp and drove somewhat like a 240D (although it'd chirp the tires in 1st). A bit more power would be nice and I imagine the fuel economy would be good in a light chassis like that. -Curt Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:19:14 -0600 From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] OT - 6.2 diesel suburban gotchas To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Phillip wrote: So what thing do I need to look at or ask about? Are there there any wicked or expensive common failure modes? The 6.5 engine in the later models (starting in 1992 IIRC) was a better engine, produced more power and a turbocharged version was available. Donald H. Snook - Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rear Axle Fluid Change
Va. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Frederick W Moir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 5:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear Axle Fluid Change Any idea where I might find one? I may have to cut off a 14mm Allen Wrench and put it in a socket. Thx - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) Where in the world are you? Fred Moir Lynn MA ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.32/1131 - Release Date: 11/14/2007 4:54 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] jabba considers adding a second dog
Please keep us all posted on your progress. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 3:44 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] jabba considers adding a second dog Cool. I was wondering about that. I've been wanting to meet this German Shepherd I see in this yard that barks a lot but looks so lonely. I think I'll just go ahead and pet him like I've been wanting to. Thanks Gary. Brian On 11/13/07, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what the hell kind of mike vick dog world do you guys live in? these dogs don't go around biting people. for the most part they are just like little children. they like you and seek your approval. unless a dog is badly provoked or trained to attack, they aren't going to bite you. On Nov 13, 2007 6:34 PM, ernest breakfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this one looks like a cutey, and i'm all for rescuing dogs; our Malinois/Lab mix was a rescue dog, and after some time to recover from what was obviously an abusive start, she's become a wonderful critter to have around the house (and the office, and pretty much anywhere else we go). however, Brian raises an excellent point about the biting issue that reminded me of something; you might want to check with your homeowners/renters/business insurance to see if this dog might affect your rates, because the list of breeds that Insurance companies are classifying as High Risk would surprise most people, and it seems to be growing longer all the time. cheers! e Zoltan Finks wrote: Andrew, I think you must be talking about when I wrote the breed is one of the most likely to bite though. Unless I'm missing something. [snip] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 Gasser
Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: Hell, she has a 140 to drive. She doenst seem to like 126's. At least she knows what the exclamation mark means now! ;) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rear Axle Fluid Change
Any idea where I might find one? I may have to cut off a 14mm Allen Wrench and put it in a socket. Thx - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) Where in the world are you? Fred Moir Lynn MA ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel in the sky
Howdy - When was the old line of Skyhawks discontinued? Whe I was in flight school we had a BBQ on the beach for the school - several people had their own planes (not students) and flew the rest to the beach - my wife I got into a Cessna210 for a total of 4 people - I was skinny back then but we were still regular sized people - I think the 210 might have been called a Skylane (?) and the way that thing took off almost fully loaded really impressed me - rolled down the r'way and pilot pulled back on the wheel and we went UP. Very impressive to see and feel how much power that plane had. Climbed like a homesick angel as they say. It moved to the top of my list of planes I wanted. Along with a 172RG and a 310 twin (getting unrealistic I admit) - Anyway - I haven't looked at Cessna website in a long time - will check out the new Skyhawks - they sound pretty impressive. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 4:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel in the sky The Skyhawk TD was selected by Ethiopian Airlines to replace its current training fleet of 10 Cessna 172XPs. Ethiopian Airlines lauded the Skyhawk TD as a more economical aircraft that, along with the standard Garmin G1000 avionics suite, made it the logical choice for the modernization of its fleet. These aircraft will be used in ab-initio airline training and represent the first fleet of the new Skyhawk TDs ordered by a major airline training school. We feel that the early acceptance of this aircraft in the training market is the beginning of a trend we are confident will continue to spread throughout the world, said Bob Gibbs, Cessna's director of International Propeller Aircraft Sales. Established in 1964, Ethiopian Airlines' Pilot Training School, based in Addis Ababa, is one of the premier training organizations in Africa. Africair, Inc. is the Cessna distributor for 41 countries in Africa and has been selling and supporting the full range of Cessna products in Africa since 1968. FMI: www.cessna.com For the WHOLE story, go to http://www.aero-news.net/news/genav.cfm?ContentBlockID=bf0e336f-14bd-4f06-96c7-b6cf1aa77d42 --- - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Training for what? Cool - I had wondered whether those German aviation turbo Diesels would actually appear in production planes. Now, why is an airline is buying four seat airplanes? Training. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.32/1131 - Release Date: 11/14/2007 4:54 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Where Does The Rust Belt End?
I live in the heart of the rust belt, and I am tired of driving cars that you can watch disintegrate before your very eyes. I realize that Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada cars are gonna be rust free, but where else gets no snow and salt on the roads or doesn't have coastal salt air? Just curious. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] jabba considers adding a second dog
y'all are clearly yankees, huh? On Nov 14, 2007 4:44 PM, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cool. I was wondering about that. I've been wanting to meet this German Shepherd I see in this yard that barks a lot but looks so lonely. I think I'll just go ahead and pet him like I've been wanting to. Thanks Gary. Brian On 11/13/07, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what the hell kind of mike vick dog world do you guys live in? these dogs don't go around biting people. for the most part they are just like little children. they like you and seek your approval. unless a dog is badly provoked or trained to attack, they aren't going to bite you. On Nov 13, 2007 6:34 PM, ernest breakfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this one looks like a cutey, and i'm all for rescuing dogs; our Malinois/Lab mix was a rescue dog, and after some time to recover from what was obviously an abusive start, she's become a wonderful critter to have around the house (and the office, and pretty much anywhere else we go). however, Brian raises an excellent point about the biting issue that reminded me of something; you might want to check with your homeowners/renters/business insurance to see if this dog might affect your rates, because the list of breeds that Insurance companies are classifying as High Risk would surprise most people, and it seems to be growing longer all the time. cheers! e Zoltan Finks wrote: Andrew, I think you must be talking about when I wrote the breed is one of the most likely to bite though. Unless I'm missing something. [snip] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 Gasser
Hi Kaleb, that does sound impressive - what kind of mgp's does it get? You know? there's so many people who have no knowledge of what a MB costs of how much more life is left in them when they hit the used car market. Someone who buys a newish Accord for $12k could have that SEL for $2500 and put $5K aside in a savings account in case it needs something in the future. Then they'd have a REAL car. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 Gasser I dont know. I cant hardly give away my super clean 90 420SEL. Its down to $2995 now, if somebody wants it they can have it for $2500. In normal times it would be selling for 4-5k. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 3:13 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 Gasser Wonder why no bids? They also have a very cool 1969 Ford Torino coupe that is equally droolworthy. On Nov 14, 2007 1:01 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: High mileage? Heck, thats low mileage. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 11:48 AM Subject: [MBZ] 126 Gasser Here is a high mileage 126 gas car looks pretty nice, the price is right and if you are in the Midwest, it is close. No affiliation http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1989-Mercedes-Benz-560SEL-Sedan-Very-Good -Cond-Classic_W0QQitemZ290181469718QQihZ019QQcategoryZ6332QQssPageNameZW DVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.32/1131 - Release Date: 11/14/2007 4:54 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Rodbender
Maybe Kaleb needs to offer $200.00 for it. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Knoble Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 5:22 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Cheap Rodbender Oil pump failure... yeah, right. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MERCEDES-BENZ-350-TURBO-DIESEL_W0QQitemZ29017 9588433QQihZ019QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 Gasser
Mileage does not matter. Condition is everything. Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 11/14/07 11:51 AM Subject: [MBZ] 126 Gasser Here is a high mileage 126 gas car looks pretty nice, the price is right and if you are in the Midwest, it is close. No affiliation http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1989-Mercedes-Benz-560SEL-Sedan-Very-Good -Cond-Classic_W0QQitemZ290181469718QQihZ019QQcategoryZ6332QQssPageNameZW DVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Cheap Rodbender
Oil pump failure... yeah, right. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MERCEDES-BENZ-350-TURBO-DIESEL_W0QQitemZ290179588433QQihZ019QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Rodbender
Maybe Kaleb needs to offer $200.00 for it. Thanks, Tom Hargrave Actually, for a grand it's probably not a bad deal. Just needs about seven grand in new motor to go another 300k miles. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] To those more G MAIL
Yes Gmail does seem to take a long time to load , though it wasn't so initially . mak - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 2:00 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] To those more compu-literate than I It appears you are trying to do something with Gmail on-line, and there is a lot of crap that is trying to load on your slow cnxn. Load Thunderbird as an email client and do your mail off-line, or with the sending/getting working in the background. Just leave Tbird running, set to get mail when you start it and send it when you send it. Just get your mail off the Gmail server, and send to it, do your reading/replying/creating in Tbird. --R Glenn Brown wrote: I'm still having problems with gmail, this all started about two weeks ago when trying to open the okiebenz gmail link gave me the following warning after about 35 sec. (Note: After a few months back when others also were complaining of gmail taking too long to open, my original total time to open this link was around 26 sec. . . . I'm using a phone line): *** This seems to be taking longer than usual. If you are using a slow Internet connection, you can wait a bit longer for this page to finish loading, or just use basic HTML view for now. If you are using your normal Internet connection and you usually get past this loading step without any problems, please refresh this page in your browser. If you continue to have trouble loading your account, please visit the help center for troubleshooting information. *** Note: I've visited the help center and performed what was suggested with no change. The okiebenz link will finally open in 45 sec. – 1.5 min., and the submissions link takes around 30 sec., but I'm also having problems sending relatively small jpeg files (e.g., 788K) as I get a #001 error message and the lousy system will not save the draft either as the same error message is displayed. I can send the jpg files via hotmail, but hotmail auto reduces the size such that the jpg file is only sufficient for viewing on a monitor, nothing beyond that. Any ideas? TIA. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.486 / Virus Database: 269.15.30/1126 - Release Date: 11/12/2007 12:56 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] was famous dave's bbq; now pizza stuff
This time of year youi can get away with that - as I used to when reporting to my home office in N. Indiana. I was in S. FL at the time. I discovered doing it in March could be dangerous. Northern folk get a bit testy by then. BillR -Original Message- From: Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 11/13/07 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] was famous dave's bbq; now pizza stuff It's about the same either way. However...this is the time of the year we brag about84 degrees and sunny. Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 2:28 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] was famous dave's bbq; now pizza stuff I do not envy pizza oven attendants in Phoenix.Major conundrum: do you step inside the oven or outside to cool off? On Nov 12, 2007 10:02 AM, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember some stinkin' pizza outfit having a type of oven that was kind of like a multi leveled carrousel...like one of those pie display case thingys spinning around at boo-fays. These ovens had thin stone cooking surfaces and made better pizza than the conveyers, but not nearly good pizza as the Baker's Pride ovens. I think it was Peter Piper out here in AZ. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 7:48 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] famous dave's bbq Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But if some moron shut the oven off when he went home for the night, you could find it stone cold at 4pm, fire it up immediately, and you would not be making pizza until after 8pm. I hated the Hobart conveyors when I first saw them 20 years ago, but they don't waste gas all night. With the pan pizza, there isn't much difference in taste between the firebrick and the conveyor. The Lang ovens we had were electric, and had timers so they would kick on and start heating at about 1:30. They only took a couple of hours to pre heat, so by 4:00 they were ready to go (unless there had been a power failure overnight and the timers were off). We had 6 ovens in our store, normally used only two or three. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Repair of leaking door actuator
On my '81 SD I replaced the door lock actuators a few months ago. The German ones that came out were easy to remove, but the Swiss replacements were a bear to get on. I had to create a tool out of a sharpened curved paperclip to release the rod. BillR -Original Message- From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 11/13/07 9:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Repair of leaking door actuator In my experience, however, it's not the diaphragms inside the actuator that leak, but the cover that seals the actuating shaft to the plastic body of the actuator. In this case, the leak is when you try to open the doors. I have also noticed that the oblong ones, as used in single-line systems, often fail at that exposed boot and not inside. But the older round ones are prone to the internal diaphragms failing. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Where Does The Rust Belt End?
I feel for you - I'm from just South of Buffalo NY, where on quite nights, you can hear a Ford rust. AMC's were even worse, but not much worse in the 70's. There is a strip that runs across the US. The northern boundary is somewhere around the center of Tennessee extends due East West and the southern boundary is South, probably 100 miles from the coast. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Knoble Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 5:42 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Where Does The Rust Belt End? I live in the heart of the rust belt, and I am tired of driving cars that you can watch disintegrate before your very eyes. I realize that Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada cars are gonna be rust free, but where else gets no snow and salt on the roads or doesn't have coastal salt air? Just curious. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 24, Issue 74
I do wish my air direction problems had cleared up, but they got worse. Mine went from me being able to trick it part of the time so it would blow into the cabin to full-time windscreen. Seems an expensive repair, also. I suspect much of that is labor, but I can't work with my head lower than my heart [life-long condition] so I don't think I can try that repair. I thought you could get to it by taking out the glove box, but Rusty said no to that one. I've got to replace the AC compressor once more so will wait until Spring when the temperatures make it a necessity. I can survive the Winter with a noisy AC and a cold windshield. The transmission shift problems are related to the vacuum, but it was not right before the vac pump was replaced, so it getting worse after was not a surprise. It is too slow to change gears, and occasionally makes the 2-3 3-4 shifts on top of each other. Might need to take that to a Mb transmission place rather than my usual Indy. I trust him completely, but he told me up front he was no expert on MB transmissions. He had cleared up the problems when another shop [out of town engine failure] messed it up, but might not have the experience to do this. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 296k miles -Original Message- From: Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 11/12/07 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 24, Issue 74 Bill: Interesting your vac pump and mine failed at exactly the same milage. Sorry to hear your heater stuff ain't working better--mine cleared right up. My trans shifts exactly the same now as it did before the pump replacement, incidently. Not sure whether the shop recalibrated it or not--they didn't mention doing so. I have had the trans shift hard after a trans service, but that time the shop inadvertantly disconnected a vacuum line entirely. Perhaps the same thing happened to yours. Good luck! Dan 82 300SD, now 298k On Nov 12, 2007, at 6:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just had to replace my vacuum pump, but I was told the pump should be putting out 35lbs of vacuum. I still have the defrost only problem, but can't afford to fix those at the moment. Quote of $385 for that one, and I can't do that work. Anyone else done that for comparison? I also need to reset the vacuum on the transmission, as it was set up with the lower vacuum. Billr Jacksonville, FL 1981 300 SD 296k milwa ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Rodbender
I already have a motor for it Rick Knoble wrote: Maybe Kaleb needs to offer $200.00 for it. Thanks, Tom Hargrave Actually, for a grand it's probably not a bad deal. Just needs about seven grand in new motor to go another 300k miles. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Rodbender
The seller wrote MB does not have a warning light or buzzer when there is an oil pressure failure Well, Heoo? Maybe that's because there's a Oil Pressure *gauge* in the dash?? Duh!? Later -- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 6:22 PM Subject: [MBZ] Cheap Rodbender Oil pump failure... yeah, right. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MERCEDES-BENZ-350-TURBO-DIESEL_W0QQitemZ290179588433QQihZ019QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.32/1131 - Release Date: 11/14/2007 4:54 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Where Does The Rust Belt End?
Yes, this is apparently why the kids' idea of a classic muscle car in Minnesota is a mid-80's Cutlass or Monte Carlo. Had to laugh when I moved into the neighborhood with my '68 Coronet. Not sure of the boundaries, though, Rick. Brian On 11/14/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I feel for you - I'm from just South of Buffalo NY, where on quite nights, you can hear a Ford rust. AMC's were even worse, but not much worse in the 70's. There is a strip that runs across the US. The northern boundary is somewhere around the center of Tennessee extends due East West and the southern boundary is South, probably 100 miles from the coast. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Knoble Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 5:42 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Where Does The Rust Belt End? I live in the heart of the rust belt, and I am tired of driving cars that you can watch disintegrate before your very eyes. I realize that Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada cars are gonna be rust free, but where else gets no snow and salt on the roads or doesn't have coastal salt air? Just curious. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] training
Is a diesel engine burning Jet-A more reliable/efficient/cheaper/lighter than a turboprop? What's the advantage? Cost, first of all, plus there is no need for a million dollar training airplane in the beginning. See if you can find a price somewhere fo a PT-6 turbine engine. RLE ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - 6.2 diesel suburban gotchas
Put a real fuel filter/water separator on it. You can buy the Roosa Master filter pair from a tractor salvage yard. Most John Deere Diesels from 4020 on have them. Most of the problems of the GM diesel stem from water in the fuel/plugged filter. The factory put on an itty bitty filter, not much more than the MB see-thru prefilter, that passes ALL water through to the nozzles, where it ruins them. Side benefits of the Master filters: They are see thru; you can buy replacements lotsa places, including every JD dealer in the country. If you are stranded, you have about a 50/50 chance of the nearest farm having spares; they filter out finer particles than the MB OEM filters. At 11:29 AM 11/14/2007, you wrote: I'm eyeing a mid '80s Suburban. I own a gasoline-powered one, but it's wearing out and I'd rather have a diesel. But I've never owned a GM diesel. So what thing do I need to look at or ask about? Are there there any wicked or expensive common failure modes? Other advise? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Where Does The Rust Belt End?
I always heard Atlanta cars were pretty good bets. Yes there are some costal areas in Georgia but they don't salt the roads and it's not like Florida where they get completely sun-baked. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Where Does The Rust Belt End?
Kleb gets some nice cars. I have had good luck with dallas/Ft Worth cars. Memphis has no salt to speak of, but seem to be worn out or mechaniced to death in good bodies. Atlanta is a good bet. gotta watch nevada/utah cars. Ever heard of bonneville SALT flats? At 06:45 PM 11/14/2007, you wrote: I always heard Atlanta cars were pretty good bets. Yes there are some costal areas in Georgia but they don't salt the roads and it's not like Florida where they get completely sun-baked. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Rodbender
On Nov 14, 2007, at 7:10 PM, LarryT wrote: The seller wrote MB does not have a warning light or buzzer when there is an oil pressure failure Well, Heoo? Maybe that's because there's a Oil Pressure *gauge* in the dash?? Duh!? Yeah, but a buzzer would be a nice backup. Do you keep an eye glued to the oil pressure every second? My '91 VW did not have a pressure gauge, but it had an idiot light AND a very loud, raspy buzzer if you lost pressure while the engine was running. I activated it once or twice banking hard on highway exit ramps, and it was impossible to miss. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rear Axle Fluid Change
Larry T, et al. I'll be in Fredericksburg VA before, during and after Turkey Day and I could bring it on the plane with me. I know that should alert all of the paranoid security types, but still, if you can wait, you may borrow it to play with at your leisure. Fred Moir Lynn MA 300TD 190DT Bent 260E Gone! hooray! At 06:19 PM 11/14/2007, you wrote: Va. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) Where in the world are you? Fred Moir Lynn MA ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Rodbender
A woodruf key left in the oil pan at the MB factory finally worked its way into the oil pump, jamming it. In order for that to happen, the screen just inside the oil intake would have to fall out. Unlikely. -Dave Walton On 11/14/07, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oil pump failure... yeah, right. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MERCEDES-BENZ-350-TURBO-DIESEL_W0QQitemZ290179588433QQihZ019QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Rodbender
MB does not have a warning light or buzzer when there is an oil pressure failure. Duh, no, it actually has a gauge that TELLS You something! Duh At 07:03 PM 11/14/2007, you wrote: A woodruf key left in the oil pan at the MB factory finally worked its way into the oil pump, jamming it. In order for that to happen, the screen just inside the oil intake would have to fall out. Unlikely. -Dave Walton On 11/14/07, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oil pump failure... yeah, right. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MERCEDES-BENZ-350-TURBO-DIESEL_W0QQitemZ290179588433QQihZ019QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Where Does The Rust Belt End?
Rick wrote: but where else gets no snow and salt on the roads or doesn't have coastal salt air? Just curious. Kansas. We get very little snow. Most of the city and counties are so ill equipped to deal with the snow that usually by the time, they try to get salt trucks out on the road, the snow has melted. I have also heard of a lot local governments using sand instead of salt. I have never had a car with a rust problem. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 240D or 300D available?
Does anyone have a 240D or 300D 123 or 300D 124 for sale? A neighbor is interested. I showed them Joe's 300D, but they thought that was too far away. I think not. Just sit on the train for 3 days and go get it. Anyhow, if anyone has a Diesel for sale in the south or midwest, they are interested. Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 Benz on Craigslist
Sorry Fred..it freaked me out a bit. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frederick W Moir Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 8:27 PM To: Mercedes Subject: [MBZ] 87 Benz on Craigslist Hi, All. http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/car/477037387.html Sorry, that was me. No Affilliation etc. Fred Moir Lynn MA 85 300TD 87 190DT Bent ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] famous dave's bbq
Egg-zactly. I even read some of your guys computer threads thinking I might learn something. A nugget a day...that's my motto. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 8:57 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] famous dave's bbq a lot of people don't like it but i kinda do. there is so much knowledge here and much of it hasn't the vaguest connection to automobiles. as i try to explain to my kid everyday -- why not learn something for a change? On Nov 14, 2007 9:06 AM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks, Bob. This list is amazing - no reasonable question ever goes unanswered. Even the unreasonable questions often spawn long discussions Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] To those more compu-literate than I
Do you have MS auto-update turned on? If so, it's possibly trying to download this months updates while you're trying to read email, and there just isn't enough bandwidth for both. On Nov 14, 2007 3:00 PM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It appears you are trying to do something with Gmail on-line, and there is a lot of crap that is trying to load on your slow cnxn. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] famous dave's bbq
No prob...food questions I can answer...I have more trouble with MB questions. If you look at me and my car side by side it becomes evident. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 10:06 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] famous dave's bbq Thanks, Bob. This list is amazing - no reasonable question ever goes unanswered. On 11/13/07, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Spare ribs are the traditional slab of ribs. They come from the belly of the pig, behind the shoulder. They include 11 to 13 long bones. There is a covering of meat on top of the bones and between them. They are the most inexpensive cut of ribs. St. Louis style ribs are a variation of the full slab. They are trimmed and have the brisket bone removed. Kansas City style ribs are another variation. They are trimmed even more than the St. Louis style ribs and have the hard bone removed. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 2:34 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] famous dave's bbq i have no idea what differentiates a st louis rib from a kansas city rib. the ribs i had were large, meaty with a nicely spicy wet sauce. On Nov 13, 2007 4:31 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WTF are St. Louis ribs? Piled on the plate in the shape of an arch? On Nov 12, 2007 10:10 AM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if you ever ate real pizza, you wouldn't be talking this way On Nov 12, 2007 9:09 AM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: guess there is a lesson here, but dont' take it so far as to be ordering dominoes pizza in new york city Domino's used to be not half bad, until they replaced their deck ovens with automatic conveyorized ones. Easier (and safer) for the staff, but makes a totally generic pizza. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] top 10 fave.was best benz
The 107 is definitely more sporty than a 123! I've never driven a TD, but my SLC is far more nimble than the 240D. Nothing like a sports car, but better than the 123. On Nov 14, 2007 11:06 AM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you wrote -- memories of my '85 TD are of a heavy car that liked to roll and lumber more than handle Sounds like a W107 -- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Where Does The Rust Belt End?
Both the Mercedes I bought from the Dallas area have had rust problems. They get so little snow, that I don't know how it happened. There are rusty cars here - we're half way to Wichita, KS. When I was flying to MN for Christmas every year, you could count on the snow beginning just N. of Wichita. Kansas. We get very little snow. Most of the city and counties are so ill equipped to deal with the snow that usually by the time, they try to get salt trucks out on the road, the snow has melted. I have also heard of a lot local governments using sand instead of salt. I have never had a car with a rust problem. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
