[MBZ] Welding Wire -- WAS: update on the cracked frame rail
A, that makes sense - I assume the heat from welding reacts with the flux and a gas is created? One more question please - how is the correct diameter of wire selected? larger wire for thicker metal? Thx - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 8:33 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] update on the cracked frame rail Flux filled wire creates its own shielding gas. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 [SNIP] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Welding Wire -- WAS: update on the cracked frame rail
In theory, the larger the work, the more power and that follow the thicker wire. In home duty, you are usually power limited so you make several passes, stopping to chip off slag between each pass. Works ok but time consuming. Pete On Sun, 18 May 2008 08:14:01 -0400, you wrote: A, that makes sense - I assume the heat from welding reacts with the flux and a gas is created? One more question please - how is the correct diameter of wire selected? larger wire for thicker metal? Thx - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 8:33 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] update on the cracked frame rail Flux filled wire creates its own shielding gas. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 [SNIP] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 20Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 286 KMI Now lives with Dave Walton, Cleveland Ohio 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 89 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Octane rating of Cars
Not according to my owner's manual it doesn't. 1972 280 SE 4.5, requires premium -- min 93 octane I think. It knocks on regular. It might have been detuned for the 73 to 78 models though. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hydrogen Power/Browns gas?
hendrik wrote but catching the snakes and milking them is a tricky operation Perhaps you could hire the people who gather (to put a kind spin on it) Moth Balls. I've always admired those people who could catch what must be incredibly large moths and then wrestle them to the ground and get them flipped over before they . well, better not go into the gory details. It's enough to say the moth and ball collector are never quite the same. Luckily for the moth, they grow back - usually to be harvested once again. It must be terribly traumatic for all involved. I would guess snake milking is equally difficult. I've been told (*who* tells me all these things?) the vipers and other highly poisonous snakes provide the highest quality milk. Of course there are often accidents where the snake bites the milker sending them (the milker) to the hospital for anti-venom. Naturally this causes the milkers to be hesitant to milk the poisoness snakes - turnover in this industry is unusually high. Perhaps they could be lured to become Moth Ball Collectors while recovering from a severe bite? They are probably pretty vulnerable when their arms/legs/whatever are still swollen 3 x's the normal size and the pain is second only to childbirth and kidney stones. Have a nice day -- Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hydrogen Power/Browns gas? No not possible in such a way that it would improve your mileage. Browns gas has been around for a long while but has never been gotten to work as advertised. There are heaps of websites that promise much the same thing. Anyway perhaps I could interest you Diesel people with some high zetane snake oil, guaranteed to get you 1000mpg. Hendrik with a large scale snake oil refinery in the back yard but catching the snakes and milking them is a tricky operation LarryT wrote: http://runyourcarwithwater.youbetterreadthis.com/ I immediately became suspicious when J Carter endorsed it -- But some of you are super knowledgable about chemistry - tell me if this is possible -- Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hydrogen Power?
I've been looking at that and thinking about it for a while. I can't see it either. On the other hand I can see that it might be possible that a small amount of Brown's gas (hydrogen and the oxygen that it was split from) burned in conjunction with gasoline or diesel may possibly improve the combustion process enough to actually give more power and thus more mileage from each gallon of fuel. I have seen the power increase from propane injection on a diesel truck so I can't say that this won't work. Probably will try it sometime once I get some time to play just to see. After all I have a good test bed. Manfred Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 15:55:02 -0500 From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] They are burning hydrogen in the engine. They are using power from the battery to split water into hydrogen oxygen. But where does the power come from that's stored in the battery? From the alternator, right? And the alternator is powered by (drum roll please), the engine? So, it goes like this.. They are using power from the engine to generate electricity, which is used to generate hydrogen, which is then fed back into the engine to generate more power. The issue with this system is that in an absolute perfect, no loss system, the results would be a net zero! In other words, no gain! In the real world, you loose energy with every step in the process Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Welding Wire -- WAS: update on the cracked frame rail
You are able to use thinner wire and stay on the same spot longer to create a larger pool of melted metal - which helps offset the higher power you can use with a thicker wire. If you are filling in material, the larger wire deposits more metal quicker so you use less gas. If you have small cylinders the gas will be the largest expense. You can still get an effective weld with thinner wire - on a butt weld just bevel the edges and make 2 or 3 passes, and/or weld both sides if you can get to it, for example. The guy who taught me started in the Navy then worked for the gas company welding natural gas mains. He uses a Lincoln now. -Dave Walton On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 8:26 AM, Peter T. Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In theory, the larger the work, the more power and that follow the thicker wire. In home duty, you are usually power limited so you make several passes, stopping to chip off slag between each pass. Works ok but time consuming. Pete On Sun, 18 May 2008 08:14:01 -0400, you wrote: A, that makes sense - I assume the heat from welding reacts with the flux and a gas is created? One more question please - how is the correct diameter of wire selected? larger wire for thicker metal? Thx - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 8:33 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] update on the cracked frame rail Flux filled wire creates its own shielding gas. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 [SNIP] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 20Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 286 KMI Now lives with Dave Walton, Cleveland Ohio 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 89 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hydrogen Power?
A small amount of hydrogen oxygen (brown's gas) will improve the combustion process and will provide more power. Then you'll use that additional power plus extra to make more Brown's gas. Propane injection also works but its false economics. You burn less gas more propane. All of these solutions were tried in the 70's they finally disappeared when the public figured out that they were BS. The real issue is that whenever there is money to be made, there are more than just a few crooks out there waiting to take your hard earned dollars. That said, there is a way to use water to improve mileage, but not by much. We experimented with water injection in the late 70s. The idea was to spray a small stream of water through the carb when it was running. The water would mix with the air would convert to steam in the engine, providing a little extra push. The idea worked - I documented a 1 MPG improvement in my 1974 Olds Cutlass Supreme. Problem was, 1 MPG was not worth the trouble of maintaining the system. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MG Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 8:07 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hydrogen Power? I've been looking at that and thinking about it for a while. I can't see it either. On the other hand I can see that it might be possible that a small amount of Brown's gas (hydrogen and the oxygen that it was split from) burned in conjunction with gasoline or diesel may possibly improve the combustion process enough to actually give more power and thus more mileage from each gallon of fuel. I have seen the power increase from propane injection on a diesel truck so I can't say that this won't work. Probably will try it sometime once I get some time to play just to see. After all I have a good test bed. Manfred Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 15:55:02 -0500 From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] They are burning hydrogen in the engine. They are using power from the battery to split water into hydrogen oxygen. But where does the power come from that's stored in the battery? From the alternator, right? And the alternator is powered by (drum roll please), the engine? So, it goes like this.. They are using power from the engine to generate electricity, which is used to generate hydrogen, which is then fed back into the engine to generate more power. The issue with this system is that in an absolute perfect, no loss system, the results would be a net zero! In other words, no gain! In the real world, you loose energy with every step in the process Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.20/1452 - Release Date: 5/17/2008 6:26 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.20/1452 - Release Date: 5/17/2008 6:26 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT - RRBV's, cost of fuel, etc.
Coupla nights ago, the thirty-something family across the street had a party. I looked out my kitchen window and counted 15 vehicles parked on the street between our 2 houses. Only one - ONE - of the vehicles was a sedan - an RSV (reasonably-sized vehicle). ALL of the rest were RRBV's (really ridiculously-big vehicles - some people call 'em SUV's). Most of 'em were Escalades, Navigators, Hummers, Suburbans, etc. My point: as I've said for many years, way too-few people are concerned about the cost availability of fuel! Wilton 2 MB's, one bigun (126), one mid-size (124) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - RRBV's, cost of fuel, etc.
Heh. Wait until gas hits $4/gallon in a few weeks. They'll be crying big-time then... Dan --- Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Coupla nights ago, the thirty-something family across the street had a party. I looked out my kitchen window and counted 15 vehicles parked on the street between our 2 houses. Only one - ONE - of the vehicles was a sedan - an RSV (reasonably-sized vehicle). ALL of the rest were RRBV's (really ridiculously-big vehicles - some people call 'em SUV's). Most of 'em were Escalades, Navigators, Hummers, Suburbans, etc. My point: as I've said for many years, way too-few people are concerned about the cost availability of fuel! Wilton 2 MB's, one bigun (126), one mid-size (124) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hydrogen Power?
Hydrogen is a fine fuel aside for the fact it's hard to store. But hydrogen is only an energy storage medium, not an energy source (free hydrogen is not just lying around somewhere). So you need some other energy source to produce hydrogen. Scott Ritchey -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 4:38 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Hydrogen Power? http://runyourcarwithwater.youbetterreadthis.com/ I immediately became suspicious when J Carter endorsed it -- But some of you are super knowledgable about chemistry - tell me if this is possible -- Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hydrogen Power?
A local mechanic here is selling a snake-oil contraption which makes browns gas as well as tinkering with the ignition timing and he claims it gets mileage improvements of over 100%. It is Dennis Lee's device, and it is BS. A good place to start the inquiry is by asking how much of the gasoline which goes into the cylinders in your car exits unburnt. This arguably represents the maximum gain you can make by simply improving combustion. It is a very small number in modern, fuel injected cars. Are internal combustion engines energy efficient? Not really. A lot of energy is released not in the form of kinetic energy but of heat which must be dissipated by the cooling system. But the 'browns gas devices do nothing to change that. Lee Tom Hargrave wrote: A small amount of hydrogen oxygen (brown's gas) will improve the combustion process and will provide more power. Then you'll use that additional power plus extra to make more Brown's gas. Propane injection also works but its false economics. You burn less gas more propane. All of these solutions were tried in the 70's they finally disappeared when the public figured out that they were BS. The real issue is that whenever there is money to be made, there are more than just a few crooks out there waiting to take your hard earned dollars. That said, there is a way to use water to improve mileage, but not by much. We experimented with water injection in the late 70s. The idea was to spray a small stream of water through the carb when it was running. The water would mix with the air would convert to steam in the engine, providing a little extra push. The idea worked - I documented a 1 MPG improvement in my 1974 Olds Cutlass Supreme. Problem was, 1 MPG was not worth the trouble of maintaining the system. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MG Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 8:07 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hydrogen Power? I've been looking at that and thinking about it for a while. I can't see it either. On the other hand I can see that it might be possible that a small amount of Brown's gas (hydrogen and the oxygen that it was split from) burned in conjunction with gasoline or diesel may possibly improve the combustion process enough to actually give more power and thus more mileage from each gallon of fuel. I have seen the power increase from propane injection on a diesel truck so I can't say that this won't work. Probably will try it sometime once I get some time to play just to see. After all I have a good test bed. Manfred Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 15:55:02 -0500 From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] They are burning hydrogen in the engine. They are using power from the battery to split water into hydrogen oxygen. But where does the power come from that's stored in the battery? From the alternator, right? And the alternator is powered by (drum roll please), the engine? So, it goes like this.. They are using power from the engine to generate electricity, which is used to generate hydrogen, which is then fed back into the engine to generate more power. The issue with this system is that in an absolute perfect, no loss system, the results would be a net zero! In other words, no gain! In the real world, you loose energy with every step in the process Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.20/1452 - Release Date: 5/17/2008 6:26 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.20/1452 - Release Date: 5/17/2008 6:26 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Lee If you would be unloved and forgotten, be reasonable. - Kurt Vonnegut ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, windows fax
windows cant find file Russ Williams wrote: It's there Kaleb just not turned on. To start Windows Fax and Scan, click *Start*, type wfs.exe in the *Start Search* box, and then click *wfs.exe* in the *Programs* list. If you are prompted for an administrator password or confirmation, type the password, or click *Continue*. Russ W. Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I discovered the premium home edition does not have fax. Wonko the Sane wrote: Perhaps Vista is faux XP. On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, needing to setup fax on this Vista. With XP and previous versions of windows, I had fax setup to receive fax automatically. Have a switch box installed that will automatically switch to fax if one is coming in. Well, I cant for the life of me find anything about fax in this vista. Anybody know where its hid or what the deal is? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] NY times article
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/18/automobiles/collectibles/18SMOKE.html?_r=1ref=todayspaperoref=slogin -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hydrogen Power/Browns gas?
And that reminds me of a joke of course: What do you have when you have a moth ball in one hand and a moth ball in the other hand? A REALLY big moth -probably ticked off, also. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 9:01 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hydrogen Power/Browns gas? hendrik wrote but catching the snakes and milking them is a tricky operation Perhaps you could hire the people who gather (to put a kind spin on it) Moth Balls. I've always admired those people who could catch what must be incredibly large moths and then wrestle them to the ground and get them flipped over before they . well, better not go into the gory details. It's enough to say the moth and ball collector are never quite the same. Luckily for the moth, they grow back - usually to be harvested once again. It must be terribly traumatic for all involved. I would guess snake milking is equally difficult. I've been told (*who* tells me all these things?) the vipers and other highly poisonous snakes provide the highest quality milk. Of course there are often accidents where the snake bites the milker sending them (the milker) to the hospital for anti-venom. Naturally this causes the milkers to be hesitant to milk the poisoness snakes - turnover in this industry is unusually high. Perhaps they could be lured to become Moth Ball Collectors while recovering from a severe bite? They are probably pretty vulnerable when their arms/legs/whatever are still swollen 3 x's the normal size and the pain is second only to childbirth and kidney stones. Have a nice day -- Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hydrogen Power/Browns gas? No not possible in such a way that it would improve your mileage. Browns gas has been around for a long while but has never been gotten to work as advertised. There are heaps of websites that promise much the same thing. Anyway perhaps I could interest you Diesel people with some high zetane snake oil, guaranteed to get you 1000mpg. Hendrik with a large scale snake oil refinery in the back yard but catching the snakes and milking them is a tricky operation LarryT wrote: http://runyourcarwithwater.youbetterreadthis.com/ I immediately became suspicious when J Carter endorsed it -- But some of you are super knowledgable about chemistry - tell me if this is possible -- Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] NY times article
Are you the guy in the article who bought the car for $50? Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 9:51 AM To: mercedes Mailing List Subject: [MBZ] NY times article http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/18/automobiles/collectibles/18SMOKE.html?_r=1 ref=todayspaperoref=slogin -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - RRBV's, cost of fuel, etc.
I still see plenty of these on the road, but it's fun to listen to the owners carp when they are filling them up at the filling station. I have noticed that when my girl and I go out to eat we almost never have to wait for a table anywhere anymore. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wilton Strickland Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 7:52 AM To: mercedes Subject: [MBZ] OT - RRBV's, cost of fuel, etc. Coupla nights ago, the thirty-something family across the street had a party. I looked out my kitchen window and counted 15 vehicles parked on the street between our 2 houses. Only one - ONE - of the vehicles was a sedan - an RSV (reasonably-sized vehicle). ALL of the rest were RRBV's (really ridiculously-big vehicles - some people call 'em SUV's). Most of 'em were Escalades, Navigators, Hummers, Suburbans, etc. My point: as I've said for many years, way too-few people are concerned about the cost availability of fuel! Wilton 2 MB's, one bigun (126), one mid-size (124) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Octane rating of Cars
OK - the manual for teh '78 450SLC stated regular. On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not according to my owner's manual it doesn't. 1972 280 SE 4.5, requires premium -- min 93 octane I think. It knocks on regular. It might have been detuned for the 73 to 78 models though. Peter -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - RRBV's, cost of fuel, etc.
Robert Rentfro wrote: I still see plenty of these on the road, but it's fun to listen to the owners carp when they are filling them up at the filling station. We've got to come up with a good retort for that one. Something like Don't blame me, I didn't buy that POS but wittier. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Refueling!
Wife just refueled the 350SDL for $97!!! Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hydrogen Power?
Well that's what I'm not sure about hence the experiment, when I get the time. As far as the propane, I'm not talking about with gas but with diesel in a turbo application. The amount of propane used is very minor but the diesel burn is a lot cleaner and there is an increase of power disproportionate to the amount of propane used. A friend did this on a Dodge pickup and documented an improvement of power on a chassis dyno. I can't remember how much it was but I do remember him telling me about the improvement in power and in mileage. Obviously not at the same time. I did the water thing also but never had any good results with it. The amount of water that was used is just to small to do much. Though in a big supercharged engine it can bring down combustion temps and provide a little longer run time at full power before the engine overheats. That was shown on the fighters in WW2. Once the limited amount of water ran out they were more or less out of the fight. Manfred Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 09:11:58 -0500 From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hydrogen Power? To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1250 A small amount of hydrogen oxygen (brown's gas) will improve the combustion process and will provide more power. Then you'll use that additional power plus extra to make more Brown's gas. Propane injection also works but its false economics. You burn less gas more propane. All of these solutions were tried in the 70's they finally disappeared when the public figured out that they were BS. The real issue is that whenever there is money to be made, there are more than just a few crooks out there waiting to take your hard earned dollars. That said, there is a way to use water to improve mileage, but not by much. We experimented with water injection in the late 70s. The idea was to spray a small stream of water through the carb when it was running. The water would mix with the air would convert to steam in the engine, providing a little extra push. The idea worked - I documented a 1 MPG improvement in my 1974 Olds Cutlass Supreme. Problem was, 1 MPG was not worth the trouble of maintaining the system. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, windows fax
Drat and Double Drat. Gateway the makers of the eMachine must have taken it out of their Distro. I don't have a Vista machine at home. I'll call a friend and see if he can send me the file for you. Russ Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: windows cant find file ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, windows fax
I sent him the one from Vista business --- On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Russ Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Drat and Double Drat. Gateway the makers of the eMachine must have taken it out of their Distro. I don't have a Vista machine at home. I'll call a friend and see if he can send me the file for you. Russ Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: windows cant find file -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, windows fax
now that i'm back from travelling, i think i'll get to work on that triple boot linux, xp, hacked os x machine i've always desired. On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 10:18 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have one laptop -- dual booted Win XP Pro and Ubuntu 8.04 (dist-upgrade from 7.10). When I absolutely MUST use WinXP, I reboot and go into WinXP. Doesn't happen often but it occasionally does. 99.99% I am working in Linux. Online, 100% of the time. On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it just doesn't make any sense. listen, it's hard to be microsoft free. i tried it and did it for a few months, but there are just many things out there you need to be on windoze to use effectively. however, to suffer the other 98% of the time for the 2% you need windoze for is insane. right now i'm about 70% linux, 25% os x and maybe 5% windoze xp. it seems a reasonable balance. given the present availability and ease of use of linux systems, i'm pretty surprised it isn't more popular. maybe it's just a matter of propaganda, but kleb has us so he has no excuse for what he is doing. On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 8:50 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He can't make the break. Sad. XP is bad enough (but usable) -- but Vista? Next thing you know, he will be parting out Yugos on eBay. On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: or decontented xp with an os x knockoff shell? for a guy who runs a linux mailing list, kleb sure does have strange tastes in OS On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 7:50 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps Vista is faux XP. On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, needing to setup fax on this Vista. With XP and previous versions of windows, I had fax setup to receive fax automatically. Have a switch box installed that will automatically switch to fax if one is coming in. Well, I cant for the life of me find anything about fax in this vista. Anybody know where its hid or what the deal is? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ http://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/ http://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/ http://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/ http://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/ http://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ http://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/ http://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/ http://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ http://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___
Re: [MBZ] OT, windows fax
i'm surprised when windoze finds any files at all On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: windows cant find file Russ Williams wrote: It's there Kaleb just not turned on. To start Windows Fax and Scan, click *Start*, type wfs.exe in the *Start Search* box, and then click *wfs.exe* in the *Programs* list. If you are prompted for an administrator password or confirmation, type the password, or click *Continue*. Russ W. Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I discovered the premium home edition does not have fax. Wonko the Sane wrote: Perhaps Vista is faux XP. On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, needing to setup fax on this Vista. With XP and previous versions of windows, I had fax setup to receive fax automatically. Have a switch box installed that will automatically switch to fax if one is coming in. Well, I cant for the life of me find anything about fax in this vista. Anybody know where its hid or what the deal is? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, windows fax
They must be able to find some filesisn't their latest OS 15 gigs?? You'd think they got paid by the pound for software. Sheesh! Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, windows fax
Ok Don then I won't send him the one I got from buddy. Russ OK Don wrote: I sent him the one from Vista business --- On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Russ Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Drat and Double Drat. Gateway the makers of the eMachine must have taken it out of their Distro. I don't have a Vista machine at home. I'll call a friend and see if he can send me the file for you. Russ Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: windows cant find file ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Refueling!
Wilton, that is terrible. You should not put up with that. I'll come and pick it up and you won't have to do that any more. No charge for the service. BillR, who would love one of those or a 300SDL -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wilton Strickland Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 4:05 PM To: mercedes Subject: [MBZ] Refueling! Wife just refueled the 350SDL for $97!!! Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lawsuuit over a Mercedes
Gerry wrote: In Florida older used cars will often have the words AS IS. in big letters on the cars window placard. Does this relieve the seller of the merchantibility requirement? I don't know about Florida, but Kansas says a car is sold by a dealer with an implied warranty of merchantability. The Court has said that is possible to disclaim the warranty, but saying it is as is is not enough. You have affirmatively and obviously tell the buyer that the there is not implied warranty of merchantability. Just saying as is will not disclaim this warranty. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, windows fax
15 gigs and it doesn't work, yet guys like kleb keep trying to put the square peg into the round hole. now that's marketing! On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 5:20 PM, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They must be able to find some filesisn't their latest OS 15 gigs?? You'd think they got paid by the pound for software. Sheesh! Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 190D goes to town
I changed the oil and fuel filters on the 190D today, vacuum all the rat turds out of the car, put the exhaust back together and take off toward town to fill it up with diesel. It of course runs out about a mile from the house. I thought ahead and brought a diesel can in case it did run out. So I hop out, add a couple of gallons, and continue on my way. Had the wife bring the SDL also so I could fill them both up. For some reason, the local wal mart is still at 4.17, guess they forgot to raise their price along with everyone else. Got about 30 gallons of diesel, was 130 bucks. Geez. Got back home, car drives great. Think its going to need shocks though, but the suspension feels pretty good. Gas guage does not work, needle does not move off of the bottom. Will check that out soon. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Refueling!
I bet they didnt even give her any lube Wilton Strickland wrote: Wife just refueled the 350SDL for $97!!! Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, windows fax
ok, great Russ Williams wrote: Drat and Double Drat. Gateway the makers of the eMachine must have taken it out of their Distro. I don't have a Vista machine at home. I'll call a friend and see if he can send me the file for you. Russ Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: windows cant find file ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Refueling!
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I bet they didnt even give her any lube -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Universal Symbol Assume the Position.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 25644 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080518/5be241e2/attachment.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D goes to town
Impressive - I mean getting Regina to drive the SDL again! Fuel sender sounds like more mouse work -- On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 7:48 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I changed the oil and fuel filters on the 190D today, vacuum all the rat turds out of the car, put the exhaust back together and take off toward town to fill it up with diesel. It of course runs out about a mile from the house. I thought ahead and brought a diesel can in case it did run out. So I hop out, add a couple of gallons, and continue on my way. Had the wife bring the SDL also so I could fill them both up. For some reason, the local wal mart is still at 4.17, guess they forgot to raise their price along with everyone else. Got about 30 gallons of diesel, was 130 bucks. Geez. Got back home, car drives great. Think its going to need shocks though, but the suspension feels pretty good. Gas guage does not work, needle does not move off of the bottom. Will check that out soon. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Refueling!
Install a smaller fuel tank. On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wife just refueled the 350SDL for $97!!! Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Refueling!
I did a 90 mile round trip yesterday (high school graduation party) and out of curiosity filled up (stuffing in as much diesel as possible) before I left and then when I returned. Just under $16 dollars, and that was driving very conservatively (55 mph) in a 240D. $4.46 per gallon! Did same experiment today. 185 miles, hauling stuff home from my daughter's university dorm. $28 to top the tank back off. Thinking seriously about brewing my own during the summer. On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wife just refueled the 350SDL for $97!!! Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D goes to town
they might have chewed the wires back there. OK Don wrote: Impressive - I mean getting Regina to drive the SDL again! Fuel sender sounds like more mouse work -- On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 7:48 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I changed the oil and fuel filters on the 190D today, vacuum all the rat turds out of the car, put the exhaust back together and take off toward town to fill it up with diesel. It of course runs out about a mile from the house. I thought ahead and brought a diesel can in case it did run out. So I hop out, add a couple of gallons, and continue on my way. Had the wife bring the SDL also so I could fill them both up. For some reason, the local wal mart is still at 4.17, guess they forgot to raise their price along with everyone else. Got about 30 gallons of diesel, was 130 bucks. Geez. Got back home, car drives great. Think its going to need shocks though, but the suspension feels pretty good. Gas guage does not work, needle does not move off of the bottom. Will check that out soon. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D goes to town
Does the low fuel light come on? I'm guessing not, or you'd have put a gallon or two in first. Loose, broken, or mouse-eaten wire -- check the ground somewhere in the left rear fender, probably near the taillight. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lawsuuit over a Mercedes
We don't have a merchantability thingy as such but a dealer must ensure that the car is roadworthy. A while back there was a big stink over dealers selling bombs and the vehicle inspectors went into car yards and defected cars offered for sale, all of a sudden you saw a lot of cars in yards with 'not for sale' signs on them. I remember looking at a 123 with one such sticker but after a quick chat with the dealer it came out that it was indeed for sale but he was waiting for a new headlight lens. Hendrik with mostly roadworthy cars Donald Snook wrote: Gerry wrote: In Florida older used cars will often have the words AS IS. in big letters on the cars window placard. Does this relieve the seller of the merchantibility requirement? I don't know about Florida, but Kansas says a car is sold by a dealer with an implied warranty of merchantability. The Court has said that is possible to disclaim the warranty, but saying it is as is is not enough. You have affirmatively and obviously tell the buyer that the there is not implied warranty of merchantability. Just saying as is will not disclaim this warranty. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Strange Ebay experience
Few days ago I bid $9.95 on a clothing item, then remembered I was in a golf tournament this weekend and may not be here, so I placed a proxy bid of $22. I checked about four hours before it ended and there were no other bids. Then I get an email that EBay had pulled the item and cancelled the auction. They said it could have been for a number of reason but nothing specific. The seller has a 100% rating with over 300 actions and I have 240 actions with 100% rating. Just out of curiosity I went to the site to eyeball things and found the seller is in a small town about 15 miles from my small town. Could that be it? Maybe they think I'm a BIL pushing up prices and getting filthy rich. Anyway, I bid on another like item with the seller in Shanghai, China, not at all close to my small town. Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Strange Ebay experience
Doubtful. I am more inclined to say there was something going on unrelated to your auction. You sure eBay and not the seller canceled the auction? On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 9:07 PM, Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Few days ago I bid $9.95 on a clothing item, then remembered I was in a golf tournament this weekend and may not be here, so I placed a proxy bid of $22. I checked about four hours before it ended and there were no other bids. Then I get an email that EBay had pulled the item and cancelled the auction. They said it could have been for a number of reason but nothing specific. The seller has a 100% rating with over 300 actions and I have 240 actions with 100% rating. Just out of curiosity I went to the site to eyeball things and found the seller is in a small town about 15 miles from my small town. Could that be it? Maybe they think I'm a BIL pushing up prices and getting filthy rich. Anyway, I bid on another like item with the seller in Shanghai, China, not at all close to my small town. Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Refueling!
Season has begun for me so that means 60 mi. r/t every day until November. All I can do is just be amused as I watch diesel climb. Each week I fill... but it seems to be escalating more and more! Just two weeks ago was $4.069 and today @ $4.469. I've mentioned a perk is that I claim a good supply of WVO from the company food outlets. I've two more sources open this year. I'd never want to alter one of the cars but I'm (more) seriously considering building a processor. I think just to pass the summer I'll have enough fuel delivered to get through until Fall (at current price) then when there's time assess the situation. on 5/18/08 20:49 Uhr, Wonko the Sane at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did a 90 mile round trip yesterday (high school graduation party) and out of curiosity filled up (stuffing in as much diesel as possible) before I left and then when I returned. Just under $16 dollars, and that was driving very conservatively (55 mph) in a 240D. $4.46 per gallon! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lawsuuit over a Mercedes
In Alabama, cars are sold with a written warranty or as is. And as is is exactly as implied. You pay for the car and it's yours with no warranty. After all, it's just a used machine, right? Warranties are clearly defined contracts that state explicitly what is covered. Also, better dealers will outline what is not covered so that there is no confusion later, but there always is. I have several friends in the car business and believe it or not, most really aren't the scum of the earth. The issue with used cars off second hand lots is that most newer ones have been traded in with some pre-existing problems, which is why the car was traded to begin with. The used car lot picks them up from a dealer only auction he really knows nothing of the history of the car. Then Joe Public comes along buys the car, the engine transmission or AC goes south a month later and all the sudden he's a crook, he sold me a [EMAIL PROTECTED] car! Better used car dealers will offer a warranty the cost of the warranty will be reflected in a higher selling the price for the car. Also, better used car dealers have some type of shop on site or a relationship with a local garage and will check out cars as they come in. But like anything else used, it's buyer beware. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hendrik Fay Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 8:54 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lawsuuit over a Mercedes We don't have a merchantability thingy as such but a dealer must ensure that the car is roadworthy. A while back there was a big stink over dealers selling bombs and the vehicle inspectors went into car yards and defected cars offered for sale, all of a sudden you saw a lot of cars in yards with 'not for sale' signs on them. I remember looking at a 123 with one such sticker but after a quick chat with the dealer it came out that it was indeed for sale but he was waiting for a new headlight lens. Hendrik with mostly roadworthy cars Donald Snook wrote: Gerry wrote: In Florida older used cars will often have the words AS IS. in big letters on the cars window placard. Does this relieve the seller of the merchantibility requirement? I don't know about Florida, but Kansas says a car is sold by a dealer with an implied warranty of merchantability. The Court has said that is possible to disclaim the warranty, but saying it is as is is not enough. You have affirmatively and obviously tell the buyer that the there is not implied warranty of merchantability. Just saying as is will not disclaim this warranty. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.20/1452 - Release Date: 5/17/2008 6:26 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.20/1452 - Release Date: 5/17/2008 6:26 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hydrogen Power/Browns gas?
Being a former Test Engineer, I've always liked this one: Know what you get when you put 2 Test Engineers in a room? Why, a pair of testees of course! Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill R Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 11:18 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hydrogen Power/Browns gas? And that reminds me of a joke of course: What do you have when you have a moth ball in one hand and a moth ball in the other hand? A REALLY big moth -probably ticked off, also. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 9:01 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hydrogen Power/Browns gas? hendrik wrote but catching the snakes and milking them is a tricky operation Perhaps you could hire the people who gather (to put a kind spin on it) Moth Balls. I've always admired those people who could catch what must be incredibly large moths and then wrestle them to the ground and get them flipped over before they . well, better not go into the gory details. It's enough to say the moth and ball collector are never quite the same. Luckily for the moth, they grow back - usually to be harvested once again. It must be terribly traumatic for all involved. I would guess snake milking is equally difficult. I've been told (*who* tells me all these things?) the vipers and other highly poisonous snakes provide the highest quality milk. Of course there are often accidents where the snake bites the milker sending them (the milker) to the hospital for anti-venom. Naturally this causes the milkers to be hesitant to milk the poisoness snakes - turnover in this industry is unusually high. Perhaps they could be lured to become Moth Ball Collectors while recovering from a severe bite? They are probably pretty vulnerable when their arms/legs/whatever are still swollen 3 x's the normal size and the pain is second only to childbirth and kidney stones. Have a nice day -- Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hydrogen Power/Browns gas? No not possible in such a way that it would improve your mileage. Browns gas has been around for a long while but has never been gotten to work as advertised. There are heaps of websites that promise much the same thing. Anyway perhaps I could interest you Diesel people with some high zetane snake oil, guaranteed to get you 1000mpg. Hendrik with a large scale snake oil refinery in the back yard but catching the snakes and milking them is a tricky operation LarryT wrote: http://runyourcarwithwater.youbetterreadthis.com/ I immediately became suspicious when J Carter endorsed it -- But some of you are super knowledgable about chemistry - tell me if this is possible -- Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.20/1452 - Release Date: 5/17/2008 6:26 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.20/1452 - Release Date: 5/17/2008 6:26 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D goes to town
light comes on with key, but goes out when engine is started. Lots of mice turds in the trunk, will check it out Peter Frederick wrote: Does the low fuel light come on? I'm guessing not, or you'd have put a gallon or two in first. Loose, broken, or mouse-eaten wire -- check the ground somewhere in the left rear fender, probably near the taillight. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
