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[MBZ] Portland CL 1983 300SD 87K original miles $4K!

2008-09-08 Thread Kevin Kraly

This seems like a killer deal!

http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/cto/833112540.html

Mine has just over three times the miles and still runs great, so this one 
should make someone happy for a long long long time!

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300sD 267Kmi, Ursula 


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Re: [MBZ] Obama and political gobbeldegook

2008-09-08 Thread Loren Faeth

you named 2 out of 10 of thousands of "journalists"   Not a very high 
percentage is it? Even if you add the eight in your second list, that 
is 00.1% or 1 tenth of one percent, if there were only 10,000 
"journalists" in the country.

As for your party, no matter what they call it, is the 
socialist/communist party  They use words like "progressive" to mask 
the real intent.  It does not take much research to find the links 
from Hillary and BO to Saul  Alinsky
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saul_Alinsky
If you listen to JFK's speeches, he would be called a "radical 
Conservative" now.  "Ask what you can do for your country"  Tax cuts, 
Strong Military, an unprecendented space race.   That was the 
democrat party.  It is a very undemocratic party now.   "You WILL 
think our way, OR ELSE!"I am glad you enjoy it.  As for me, I 
like JFK's approach.

Enjoy your BO while he is in the game!  Take away his teleprompter 
and see how well you like his speeches then.  The clinton machine is 
trying to take him out still.  I don't think BO will win any more 
elections, even for chicago dog catcher.   That is what I'd call 
effed as you put it.

At 10:41 PM 9/8/2008, you wrote:
>Loren,
>
>Funny you mention that...
>
>"Basically now a degree in 'journalism' means you are a democrat party hack
>for its propaganda machine.."
>
>I wonder if education plays a part in this. Clearly you just expressed your
>opinion that those who attend a post secondary institution and devote their
>studies to journalism end up leaning on the Democratic side.
>
>I wonder what that says about 'journalists' with inferior education (e.g
>high school diploma, GED, etc.). Some examples come to mind, namely:
>
>Sean Hannity - high school education, honorary degree awarded by Jerry
>Falwell doesn't count
>
>Shepard Smith - high school education, almost finished college (sorry almost
>only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades)
>
>
>Based on your logic, one can reason that the more education one receives,
>the less likely they are to be a supporter of the Republican Party. Of
>course, there are plenty Republican Party supporters that did attend
>college; the point herein is simply to show that your logic is effed, just
>like your presidential candidate.
>
>Oh yea, and it's the Democratic Party, not democrat party.
>
>Yours truly,
>
>Obama '08
>
>
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>
>and part of what passes for "journalism."  Basically now a degree in
>"journalism" means you are a democrat party hack for its propaganda
>machine..
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] '87 300D saga continues

2008-09-08 Thread Loren Faeth

You could if you wired in a 'lectric fuel pump for temporary use.


At 10:20 PM 9/8/2008, you wrote:
>you cant set it on a 60x with a drip tube because it does not have the
>hand primer pump
>
>Peter Frederick wrote:
> > You can set the timing with a drip tube, of course.  26 degrees
> > BTDC.  However, you will have to fabricate a drip tube (rubber hose
> > that fits over the nipple will work) as there is no factory tool.
> >
> > You can also use the IP lock tool -- it will only seat when the IP is
> > at the correct rotation.  Set engine to 15 degrees ATDC and adjust IP
> > so that the tool locks all the way down.
> >
> > however, unless you dropped the chain or took the injection timer
> > off, I don't think you are that far off on timing, it takes 10
> > degrees or so to make white smoke on these engines.  Low compression
> > from a leaking injector seat is more likely.
> >
> > You have check to see if you have compression leaking out of the
> > retainer rings on the prechambers, and that the prechamber seals are
> > actually in contact with the head?  The old chambers on a new head
> > sometimes have to be machined down a bit to let the compression ring
> > at the top get compressed enough to seal.  The flare at the top of
> > the "tip" of the pre-chamber bottoms out in the bore before it's all
> > the way inserted.  You can use plastigage to tell -- it must be
> > squished all the way out.
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> > On Sep 7, 2008, at 1:25 PM, OK Don wrote:
> >
> >> I've been installing them woth the conical side up - just as they were
> >> when I removed the injectors. However, I understand that doesn't mean
> >> they were installed right to begin with.
> >>
> >> I can't tell from the FSM - there is no text to speak of, and the
> >> picture is too small and crude to tell - I can see it either way.
> >>
> >> Since it's not running right the way it is, we might burn the last set
> >> of seals by trying Peter's way - the description makes sense.
> >>
> >> The FSM only describes measuring the IP timing with instruments - can
> >> the old drip method be used on a 603, or would the specification be
> >> different vs. the electrical sensor method? Anyone have one of the
> >> gadgets?
> >>
> >> On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Peter Frederick
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> Not according to my MB trained friend nor the FSM.  There is a cavity
> >>> on the "flat" side that serves as a head shield for the nozzle.
> >>>
> >>> Conical side DOWN, hollow side UP.  The seal is between the outer
> >>> edge of the nozzle and the prechamber outer rim, not the hole in the
> >>> bottom.
> >>>
> >>> Upside down there will be very poor sealing with the bottom of the
> >>> pre-shamber, which is conical.
> >>>
> >>> If you feel considerable "give" you have the seal upside-down.
> >>>
> >>> Peter
> >> --
> >> OK Don, KD5NRO
> >> Norman, OK
> >> "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics."
> >> -Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
> >> '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply
> >> Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go)
> >>
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>Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
>   92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL,
>   87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D,
>   84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D,
>   76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb
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Re: [MBZ] Oh, come now

2008-09-08 Thread Hendrik & Fay

There can be variations in the fill, as such you have to do it over a 
few tankfuls to get somewhere near accurate.
My shonky math works it out at 40 miles to the gallon, even in that 
foreign language I can make it out to be a fairytale.

Hendrik
who loves his TE until it has to get a drink

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> those figures are way low for a 300E
>
> Wonko the Sane wrote:
>   
>> For the 300E you are offering me.
>>
>> I filled up the tank when Curt was coming for the Quantum. Then I drove it
>> 120 miles 'in-town' back and forth to work, plus to the grocery store, etc.
>>
>> 120 miles later, it took 3.04 gallons to top the tank off.
>>
>> You do the math.
>>
>> D.
>>
>> 
>> 
>
>   

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Re: [MBZ] What would you buy now?

2008-09-08 Thread Loren Faeth

Hondog is supposed to be bringing a Diesel car to the US in the 09 
models.  Not sure if that includes CA or not.  Might be worth a look, 
as it is reputed to be quite thrifty.  A jetta Dissel is 
nice.  Around here, a pretty decent Dodge caravan can be had for a 
few thou.  Not a mileage winner, but very useful for going to your 
cottage and a lot of other stuff.  Will get way better mileage than 
you pickup.  If she only puts on 5 or 6 k miles/10k kliks, then the 
cheapness fo the grand caravan will offset the little but of extra fuel.

At 11:42 AM 9/8/2008, you wrote:
>R A Bennell wrote:
> > Unfortunately, my wife had a mishap with her car this weekend that
> > may well be the end of it. Unfortunate as it was a nice car. A 1998
> > Toyota Avalon with only about 75K miles on it. Clean, no rust etc. I
> > just put 4 new strut assemblies and new back brakes on it about a
> > month ago. I was about to put a timing belt in it and to change the
> > anti-freeze. They may fix it but I am not sure we want to keep it if
> > they do. It took a fairly major hit on the front. Bad enough to break
> > things like the radiator. She is fine so that is the most important
> > thing but she is rather upset about her car.
>
>I don't think breaking the radiator is that big of a problem.  Posting
>pictures would give you some opinions as to how road worthy it is.
>
> > Sort of lost on what to buy as a replacement however. Anyone with a
> > crystal ball out there? Fuel mileage keeps coming to the forefront on
> > our thoughts. A Honda Civic maybe? Don't really like small cars but
> > most of her driving is very close to home so that might be alright.
> > Don't want to spend a fortune but she will not be happy with any sort
> > of a fixer upper so it has to be something relatively new.
>
>I recently saw the engine bay of a 2008 4-cylinder Honda Accord.  It was
>cavernous!  Would be super easy to work on in the future.  Not sure
>about mileage though.  I've also done A/C work on a '92 Civic... was
>very impressed at how easy it was to work on the car.  Removed the
>evaporator in about 1 hour!!
>
>John
>
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad, to really bad, to really really bad, to nightmare

2008-09-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Gary Hurst wrote:
> i can teach him that, no problem
> 
> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 11:01 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> 
>> Mom fine.  Spencer now trying to figure out  how to eat
>>
>> OK Don wrote:
>>> How are Spencer and Mom doing now?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
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>> 6:57 AM
>> --
>> Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
>>  92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL,
>>  87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D,
>>  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D,
>>  76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb
>> http://www.okiebenz.com
>>
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  92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL,
  87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D,
  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D,
  76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb
http://www.okiebenz.com

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Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad, to really bad, to really really bad, to nightmare

2008-09-08 Thread Gary Hurst

i can teach him that, no problem

On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 11:01 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Mom fine.  Spencer now trying to figure out  how to eat
>
> OK Don wrote:
> > How are Spencer and Mom doing now?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> >
> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
> > Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.16/1653 - Release Date: 9/5/2008
> 6:57 AM
> >
>
> --
> Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
>  92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL,
>  87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D,
>  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D,
>  76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
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[MBZ] Mercedes SBC (brake by wire)

2008-09-08 Thread John Robbins

All you ever want to know about MB's brake by wire setup...

John
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Re: [MBZ] BARS LEAKS HEAD GASKET SEALANT?

2008-09-08 Thread Mak

I had used Bar's Leak in my 300SE/89. Seems  It is still working two years 
on. no oily residues  in the tank
mak
- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Weeks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008 6:09 AM
Subject: [MBZ] BARS LEAKS HEAD GASKET SEALANT?


> Folks:
>
> My 300TE has a leaking head gasket. You can smell coolant out the
> pipe, see a bit of steam on startup, and the #1 plug got so fouled
> with other-than-oil calcified coolant crud that it stopped firing the
> other day.
>
> While I was buying a new plug, I noticed a sale on Bars Leaks brand
> head and head gasket sealer, which purports to seal bad head gaskets
> and cracked heads. Since this car basically just hauls stuff around
> town and probably only gets driven 5k a year at most, and I'm not in
> a position to r&r the gasket at this point, does anyone have any
> experience with this product? I dimly remember someone--was it OK
> Don?--saying they'd used it or something similar on a 300SEL for many
> tens of thousands of miles and it worked, but I'd love confirmation
> of this before pouring it in. Other than that, car runs great. Uses
> some oil, but no blue smoke.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Dan
>
>
>
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[MBZ] OT - candidates, Logical Analysis

2008-09-08 Thread Wilton Strickland

I think it's an example of a fighter pilot's recklessness, but this is funny -
could be a lot funnier if it didn't have the possibility of being so tragic for
all of US.

Wilton

Okay, let's work this out logically without a lot of emotion.

If you vote for Obama

You get this.

But if you vote for McCain

You get this...

I don't know about you guys, but looking at this in a logical
manner, McCain appears to be the better candidate.

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