Re: [MBZ] photos of the new E-Class

2008-12-10 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Maybe it is a official leak to test the market, manufacturers will 
sometimes do that if they are not sure if their styling is heading in 
the right direction.

That way they can just say the fugly car was a work in progress.

Hendrik
who looked at an 220E today, nice outside color but the inside was a 
dark brown/cholcolate


Peter Frederick wrote:
And baboon backside ugly, too, so far as I'm concerned.  Bad 
visibility, too.  What was Benz thinking, they had to look like a Kia?


Peter






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Re: [MBZ] OT: Burnt smell in microwave oven

2008-12-10 Thread Kevin
Yup. Lemon juice. Boil it in the microwave, do it a few times to get all the
smoke out, and this is after you clean the inside as good as possible.

Saved mom's microwave after a wasted brother put some taquitos on a little
too long ;)

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 08:31:09PM -0700, Craig McCluskey wrote:
> Shirley burned some food in our microwave oven yesterday (smoke and all)
> and has tried to get the smell out of the oven. I even took the top cover
> off so it would be easier to get at things.
> 
> Anyone have any suggestions on how to get the smell out?

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Re: [MBZ] Compression measurement

2008-12-10 Thread Peter Merle
The check valve is at the gauge end! This is riduculous as you say. Chinese
piece of crap that I paid a lot of money for.
PEter



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> I did some calculations and the volume of the pipe leading up to
>> the gauge is about 13.8 cm3!
>>
>
> So what?  That's why there is a check valve in the part that screws
> into the head.  If there isn't, the gauge is of course a POS, as
> you've calculated.  But even my $18 Harbor Freight diesel compression
> set has the check valves in the right places.
>
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze is back on

2008-12-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Yea, Im quite sure I could turn a profit on that 140, even if it did 
just get parted out, which I dont think would be the case.  I think Im 
going to go ahead with that deal anyway.


Jim Cathey wrote:
yea, thats true.  Crap, I dont know.  I hate to let lose of any money 
right now, but on the other hand, I did make a deal with the guy and 
he pulled it off CL for me, hate to screw him.


Is the car likely to turn a profit?  Then maybe it's a good
thing to pursue anyway.

Maybe you can go around ahead of the sales manager and tell them you 
will contract to do the work for what they were paying AT.  Go freelance.


Very much worth doing, but be careful about it.  While you're actually
employed, merely tell the guys to call you at home if they feel like
it, after they next meet with X.  "Let me give you my number.  Why?
No particular reason. "  Even on their way down, if they feel
like taking you on for peeing in their pool too it could get a bit ugly.
But the contacts you have in the business you're in are the most
immediately valuable asset you take with you, if there's any way to
continue the service that they have already decided they want.  A
decent defense ought to be: "If it was so valuable, why was I (and
that business) let go?"  Done right, I don't think you'd need a
defense.

I don't recommend my local friends go to a 4-year university for 
computer stuff if they aren't already total geeks;


A college/university is not a trade school.  If you need _training_,
go elsewhere.  If you want an _education_, that is, training in how
to think, reason, research, etc., take on a college degree at a good
facility.  If you want to learn how to change fans, RAM, and power
supplies, find a tech school.  Colleges are good for scientists and
engineers.  Technicians are better served elsewhere.  (All three are
necessary for a big creative technical company to be successful.
At my best job, my favorite tech and I were nigh unstoppable.  We
weren't big/creative enough to need scientists.  IBM needs scientists,
Dell probably does not, but may have slots for engineers.  The corner
computer store needs techs at most.  The big-box store doesn't even
need those.)

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Burnt smell in microwave oven

2008-12-10 Thread harry watkins
Try tomato juice or sauce.  A friend got a skunk mad at him in his carport 
utility room.  The skunk won then left, he/she also marked the room.  One or 
the other above items was the only thing that got the smell down to livable 
conditions.


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[MBZ] Life skills

2008-12-10 Thread Jim Cathey

Wanna come to Iowa and teach me to weld?


Ha!  Anybody who learns to weld from me deserves what he gets...


That is one skill I seem to have missed along the road of life.


Me too.  So I bought a welder and a rusty $100 car.  Four years
later, I'm still driving that car.  It still needs a bunch of
welding, too!  Never ends, on something like that.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Burnt smell in microwave oven

2008-12-10 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 22:06:12 -0600 "Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> You are a scientist. You have two data points. Construct a theory, if
> not a law. 

What's the theory, that I buy a new microwave every year? (And it wasn't
the $25 variety ...)


> Besides, it is approaching Christmas gift giving time and I know the
> perfect present for Ms. Claus.

Good suggestion. I'm already getting her a new electric oven because the
thermostat on our 20 year old one has gotten VERY wierd. What's a second
new microwave in a year? Do I sound a little frustrated? :-)


Craig

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[MBZ] Overnight on a floe

2008-12-10 Thread RELNGSON
Be sure to click on the picture.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Burnt smell in microwave oven

2008-12-10 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 22:19:50 -0600 "OK Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Yup - and second best gift would be a new vacuum cleaner 

And watch out for the dog house, even if it does have dual bags. Oh, wait,
didn't we just do that ...


Craig


> On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 10:06 PM, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > You are a scientist. You have two data points. Construct a theory, if
> > not a law. Besides, it is approaching Christmas gift giving time and I
> > know the perfect present for Ms. Claus.
> >
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Burnt smell in microwave oven

2008-12-10 Thread OK Don
Yup - and second best gift would be a new vacuum cleaner 

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 10:06 PM, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You are a scientist. You have two data points. Construct a theory, if not a
> law. Besides, it is approaching Christmas gift giving time and I know the
> perfect present for Ms. Claus.
>

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Re: [MBZ] More Craigslist beauties

2008-12-10 Thread andrew strasfogel
Steal that car, Curt!

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 9:35 PM, Dwight E. Giles, Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Curt,
> He has had this on CL  for awhile-I em'ed him-I think he has come down
> already.  Probably motivated to sell now. Looks nice if you could get it
> for
> under 2k.
> Dwight
>
> Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
> 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles.
> 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles. (SOLD).
> 1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles.
> Wickford, RI-Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Curt Raymond
> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 8:58 PM
> To: Diesel List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] More Craigslist beauties
>
> So they aren't just carbed disasters? I'm thinking that guy might take
> quite
> a bit less than $2k...
>
> -Curt
>
> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:10:58 -0500
> From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] More Craigslist beauties
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Message-ID:
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>
> I bet the 280 cruise control doesn't work!
>
> Seriously, those are nice cars!  Same as Randy's incomparable W115
> mittlerot
> 300D, but quieter...
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > Do a search on your local Craig's for "classic" the results can make you
> > laugh. Heres some of the better cars I found.
> >
> > http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/952093069.html - Cheap SL
> >
> > http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/952273423.html - Cheap old Bimmer
> >
> > http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/929231735.html - 280 - Wish I could
> > find one of these with an injected engine. This is one of those cars that
> > has the hard to synch carbs right?
>
>
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[MBZ] The joys of an Italian Tuneup

2008-12-10 Thread Peter Frederick
The zany place I work for called me Monday and told me they needed me  
in Louisville in the middle of the night to plate coliform samples  
from this big stormwater event they do a couple times a year.  On  
Wednesday at 2am, no less.


I'd been wanting to take a highway trip to see if I could get rid of  
the nasty injector knock on #6 that I have since I replaced the  
injection line over Thanksgiving -- the car is starting to smell  
better (that is, it doesn't reed of diesel fuel anymore) -- and I  
don't really want to have to replace an injector.  I was afraid some  
of the metal shavings might have gotten into the plunger and stuck it.


So I take off at about 11 pm my time, stopped for fuel, and drove off  
into the rain and fog.  About 70 miles into the trip, just after I  
passed the interchange for Leavenworth, IN, my cell phone rings --  
they don't have as many samples as they thought they would and don't  
need me!  Been nice if they'd called a few minutes later, as I had to  
drive almost 15 more miles to the next interchange, but better than  
45 more to Louisville, and then through town down to the south side  
to find out I wasn't needed.


For some reason the car kept going faster on the westbound half of  
the trip, into the wind this time.  Lots more power, less foot  
movement to keep speed, and I kept zooming up to 75 or so on the  
downgrades.  Still raining and foggy, though, but no traffic to speak  
of.


When I got off the interstate and made the first stop, total  
silence!  Narry a clatter or clank to it, nice and smooth and quiet.   
Still rattles a bit in the morning cold, but none of that "whack,  
whack, whack" of a stuck injector.   Lots less smoke, too -- I can  
hardly see any in the rear view mirror even at night, and it has lots  
more punch.


Now if it just settled the rings down and cured that blowby I don't  
like.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: OT: Burnt smell in microwave oven

2008-12-10 Thread Wonko the Sane
Wanna come to Iowa and teach me to weld? That is one skill I seem to have
missed along the road of life. Was about to take a Community College class
in same, and then they discontinued it. I promise to remove my contact and
wear glasses!

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 9:51 PM, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 3. New microwave (hey, they are like $25 now, aren't they?)
>>>
>> Keep the old one around for ad-hoc car repairs, or send it to Jim.
>>
>
> If you use tin snips to remove flat pieces of metal before
> welding them onto the car you will better maintain the
> aerodynamics of the car.  At least cut the cord off so it
> doesn't drag on the ground reducing your mileage and
>  acceleration.
>
> -- Jim
>
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Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze -- idea and encouragement

2008-12-10 Thread Wonko the Sane
Correction ... WERE.

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Rich Thomas <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The real smart guys are working on Wall St and in WashingtonDC
>
> --R
>
>
> Wilton Strickland wrote:
>
>> 'Zackly.  But only HALF-smart?  ;<)))
>>
>> Wilton
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Rich Thomas" <
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 6:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze -- idea and encouragement
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> You have good computer skills already (you seem to do OK with this list,
>>> keeping it going), and you have picked up whatever business it was you got
>>> whacked from, and they are bailing out from customers who apparently wanted
>>> the service -- just do it yourself and get those guys as customers.  Your
>>> company has left a great gaping hole for you to walk right into.  Talk to
>>> them about being a contractor or consultant or something where they don't
>>> have to carry you as an employee, but would pay you for whatever it is you
>>> would do on some basis as a freelancer.  Keep using their service (which I
>>> presume has some brand awareness?) but do it on a commission or some other
>>> basis.
>>>
>>> You know the business, you know computer stuff, you are a hard working
>>> half-smart guy (which puts you ahead of about 90% of the rest of the
>>> population) -- just run with it.
>>>
>>> --R
>>>
>>> Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
>>>
>>>
 seems our company has been making all the wrong decisions as of late. We
  me for instance, I produce revenue, and if they would work it right, could
 produce alot more revenue.  Its just stupid.




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Re: [MBZ] OT: Burnt smell in microwave oven

2008-12-10 Thread Wonko the Sane
You are a scientist. You have two data points. Construct a theory, if not a
law. Besides, it is approaching Christmas gift giving time and I know the
perfect present for Ms. Claus.

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 9:55 PM, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> We've already been this route once before. This is the second microwave to
> which it's happened.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze -- idea and encouragement

2008-12-10 Thread Rich Thomas

The real smart guys are working on Wall St and in WashingtonDC

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Wilton Strickland wrote:

'Zackly.  But only HALF-smart?  ;<)))

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze -- idea and encouragement


  
You have good computer skills already (you seem to do OK with this list, 
keeping it going), and you have picked up whatever business it was you 
got whacked from, and they are bailing out from customers who apparently 
wanted the service -- just do it yourself and get those guys as 
customers.  Your company has left a great gaping hole for you to walk 
right into.  Talk to them about being a contractor or consultant or 
something where they don't have to carry you as an employee, but would 
pay you for whatever it is you would do on some basis as a freelancer.  
Keep using their service (which I presume has some brand awareness?) but 
do it on a commission or some other basis.


You know the business, you know computer stuff, you are a hard working 
half-smart guy (which puts you ahead of about 90% of the rest of the 
population) -- just run with it.


--R

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

seems our company has been making all the wrong decisions as of late. 
We  me for instance, I produce revenue, and if they would work it 
right, could produce alot more revenue.  Its just stupid.



  

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Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze is back on

2008-12-10 Thread Wonko the Sane
The real money these days is in the trades, such as being a plumber.

You are never downsized when it comes to clogged toilets or slow drains.
These skills are recession proof. Even in the midst of an severe economic
depression, each citizen still has to poop each morning and would like to
flush afterwards. A man will go a month in arrears on his mortgage if the
toilet won't flush and he has to decide between the plumber or the mortgage.


My two university degrees are worth little more than the paper they are
printed on when it comes to finding a job, except to say that my current job
required a four year degree to even get to the interview process. [Sad,
given that our daughter is just now finishing up her four year degree @
$35K a year.]

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 9:42 PM, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> A college/university is not a trade school.  If you need _training_,
> go elsewhere.  If you want an _education_, that is, training in how
> to think, reason, research, etc., take on a college degree at a good
> facility.  If you want to learn how to change fans, RAM, and power
> supplies, find a tech school.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Burnt smell in microwave oven

2008-12-10 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 21:40:56 -0600 "Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> 1. Lots of baking soda
> 
> 2. Fabreze
> 
> 3. New microwave (hey, they are like $25 now, aren't they?)

We've already been this route once before. This is the second microwave to
which it's happened.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: OT: Burnt smell in microwave oven

2008-12-10 Thread Jim Cathey

3. New microwave (hey, they are like $25 now, aren't they?)

Keep the old one around for ad-hoc car repairs, or send it to Jim.


If you use tin snips to remove flat pieces of metal before
welding them onto the car you will better maintain the
aerodynamics of the car.  At least cut the cord off so it
doesn't drag on the ground reducing your mileage and
acceleration.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Burnt smell in microwave oven

2008-12-10 Thread Jim Cathey

Anyone have any suggestions on how to get the smell out?


Friend burned up one of those wheat neck pillows.  (Bounce
on the 0 key, didn't notice it still running 20 minutes
later when the smoke started coming out of the kitchen.)
Got rid of the oven.

No doubt you could do it, but it might need to be opened up
and have all its interior crevices scrubbed with soda.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Burnt smell in microwave oven

2008-12-10 Thread Allan Streib
"Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 3. New microwave (hey, they are like $25 now, aren't they?)

Keep the old one around for ad-hoc car repairs, or send it to Jim.

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Re: [MBZ] Compression measurement

2008-12-10 Thread Jim Cathey

I did some calculations and the volume of the pipe leading up to
the gauge is about 13.8 cm3!


So what?  That's why there is a check valve in the part that screws
into the head.  If there isn't, the gauge is of course a POS, as
you've calculated.  But even my $18 Harbor Freight diesel compression
set has the check valves in the right places.

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Re: [MBZ] VIN check please

2008-12-10 Thread Allan Streib
Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Those Rangers are so awful that one can sit on the lot for 13 months
> without anybody even wanting a test drive.

I test drove a Ranger before I bought my Nissan, and I actually liked
the Ranger better in many ways but the Nissan had the King Cab that I
really wanted and it was 4wd and the Ranger was not.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze is back on

2008-12-10 Thread Jim Cathey
yea, thats true.  Crap, I dont know.  I hate to let lose of any money 
right now, but on the other hand, I did make a deal with the guy and 
he pulled it off CL for me, hate to screw him.


Is the car likely to turn a profit?  Then maybe it's a good
thing to pursue anyway.

Maybe you can go around ahead of the sales manager and tell them you 
will contract to do the work for what they were paying AT.  Go 
freelance.


Very much worth doing, but be careful about it.  While you're actually
employed, merely tell the guys to call you at home if they feel like
it, after they next meet with X.  "Let me give you my number.  Why?
No particular reason. "  Even on their way down, if they 
feel

like taking you on for peeing in their pool too it could get a bit ugly.
But the contacts you have in the business you're in are the most
immediately valuable asset you take with you, if there's any way to
continue the service that they have already decided they want.  A
decent defense ought to be: "If it was so valuable, why was I (and
that business) let go?"  Done right, I don't think you'd need a
defense.

I don't recommend my local friends go to a 4-year university for 
computer stuff if they aren't already total geeks;


A college/university is not a trade school.  If you need _training_,
go elsewhere.  If you want an _education_, that is, training in how
to think, reason, research, etc., take on a college degree at a good
facility.  If you want to learn how to change fans, RAM, and power
supplies, find a tech school.  Colleges are good for scientists and
engineers.  Technicians are better served elsewhere.  (All three are
necessary for a big creative technical company to be successful.
At my best job, my favorite tech and I were nigh unstoppable.  We
weren't big/creative enough to need scientists.  IBM needs scientists,
Dell probably does not, but may have slots for engineers.  The corner
computer store needs techs at most.  The big-box store doesn't even
need those.)

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Burnt smell in microwave oven

2008-12-10 Thread Wonko the Sane
1. Lots of baking soda

2. Fabreze

3. New microwave (hey, they are like $25 now, aren't they?)

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 9:31 PM, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Shirley burned some food in our microwave oven yesterday (smoke and all)
> and has tried to get the smell out of the oven. I even took the top cover
> off so it would be easier to get at things.
>
> Anyone have any suggestions on how to get the smell out?
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Craig
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[MBZ] OT: Burnt smell in microwave oven

2008-12-10 Thread Craig McCluskey
Shirley burned some food in our microwave oven yesterday (smoke and all)
and has tried to get the smell out of the oven. I even took the top cover
off so it would be easier to get at things.

Anyone have any suggestions on how to get the smell out?

Thanks,


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Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze is back on

2008-12-10 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 10:46:18 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Got whacked today at work.

I'm sorry to hear that, Kaleb. I've been there before, too. Shirley and I
will be praying for y'all.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] VIN check please

2008-12-10 Thread Mitch Haley

Curt Raymond wrote:

Yeah, working through the insurance paperwork I noticed the VIN. Shoulda 
checked before I bought it but...

Alex got me an Autocheck report (thanks!) which basically shows it was first titled in January '04 with 8 miles which seems odd. 


Those Rangers are so awful that one can sit on the lot for 13 months without 
anybody even wanting a test drive. Either that, or somebody plugged it into the 
computer terminal and reprogrammed the odometer after it was used for a demo for 
several months. ;-)


Mitch.





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Re: [MBZ] Coolant Leak/Vacuum in Radiator

2008-12-10 Thread Peter Frederick
Look for a leaking hose somewhere -- coolant will go out when hot,  
but when the engine stops, the pressure drop as it cools will pull  
the hose down onto the nipple and seal it off.


And maker sure its vacuum!  Squeeze the radiator hose when it's cold  
-- if it's hard, you have a leaking head gasket or cracks somewhere!


Vacuum in the cooling system can be a defective radiator cap, too --  
can cause the upper radiator hose to be pulled flat cold.


Peter

On Dec 10, 2008, at 7:28 PM, OK Don wrote:


Result of coolant expansion when hot (overflowing), but no vent action
in the cap, so lower pressure once it cools?

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote:


Loren,
I am curious-does this explain the vacuum in the radiator or is that
normal
on these?


If the water runs out, air has to get in or there will be suction.  
Maybe the

vent in the radiator cap is clogged?




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Re: [MBZ] photos of the new E-Class

2008-12-10 Thread Peter Frederick
And baboon backside ugly, too, so far as I'm concerned.  Bad  
visibility, too.  What was Benz thinking, they had to look like a Kia?


Peter

On Dec 10, 2008, at 7:07 PM, Allan Streib wrote:


Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=137466? 
tid=edmunds.il.home.photopanel..1.*#2


Generic.  Looks like anything else coming out of Toyota, Honda, Lexus,
etc.

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Re: [MBZ] VIN check please

2008-12-10 Thread Curt Raymond
Thanks Kaleb!

Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 19:34:02 -0600
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Re: [MBZ] VIN check please

2008-12-10 Thread Curt Raymond
Yeah, working through the insurance paperwork I noticed the VIN. Shoulda 
checked before I bought it but...

Alex got me an Autocheck report (thanks!) which basically shows it was first 
titled in January '04 with 8 miles which seems odd. The only other entry is 
from delivery to the dealer in December '02...

-Curt

Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 20:06:17 -0500
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"This the one you just bought?

Wilton

- Original Message -
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Subject: [MBZ] VIN check please


> 1FTZR45EX3PA68911
>
> Just out of curiosity. Should be (dammed well better be) an '03 Ford
Ranger.
>
> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] photos of the new E-Class

2008-12-10 Thread Tony Wirtel
>
> Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >
> http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=137466?tid=edmunds.il.home.photopanel..1.*#2
>
> Generic.  Looks like anything else coming out of Toyota, Honda, Lexus,
> etc.
>
> Allan
> --
> 1983 300D


Allan-

Somewhere there's a Sonata missing it tail lights...

Tony Wirtel '92 300e
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Re: [MBZ] More Craigslist beauties

2008-12-10 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Curt,
He has had this on CL  for awhile-I em'ed him-I think he has come down
already.  Probably motivated to sell now. Looks nice if you could get it for
under 2k.
Dwight 

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles.  
1979 240D- auto -250K + miles. (SOLD). 
1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles.
Wickford, RI-Original Message-
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So they aren't just carbed disasters? I'm thinking that guy might take quite
a bit less than $2k...

-Curt

Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:10:58 -0500
From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
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I bet the 280 cruise control doesn't work!

Seriously, those are nice cars!  Same as Randy's incomparable W115 mittlerot
300D, but quieter...



On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Do a search on your local Craig's for "classic" the results can make you
> laugh. Heres some of the better cars I found.
>
> http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/952093069.html - Cheap SL
>
> http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/952273423.html - Cheap old Bimmer
>
> http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/929231735.html - 280 - Wish I could
> find one of these with an injected engine. This is one of those cars that
> has the hard to synch carbs right?


  
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Re: [MBZ] VIN check please

2008-12-10 Thread Mitch Haley


Just like a friend's 2001 F250, 13 months old when he bought it new.
The F250 had more than 8 miles on it though.

Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze is back on

2008-12-10 Thread Gary Hurst
he's scared of black women who have been sexually harrassed.

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> hahahahahahahahahahaha
>
> Bill R wrote:
>
>> Losing the job is not at all a good thing, though your assessment is
>> probably correct and it could well be better to get out now rather than
>> later.
>> I think you should probably hook up with Donald on that idea of being
>> prevented from practicing your religion. After all, they are depriving you
>> of income, and it takes a lot of money to support your devotion to the
>> buying of ancient, decrepit and otherwise 'given up on' MB's, and even
>> raising them from the dead [with laying on of hands, no less]. A good
>> attorney could no doubt get that classified as your religion, and no doubt
>> Regina could give many stories that testify to that personal commitment to
>> it.  You could easily demonstrate more devotion to that faith than many
>> who
>> sit in a pew could demonstrate their practice of faith.  You will need to
>> make sure you have some sort of ceremony each time you buy, sell, or
>> dispose
>> of cars  no, wait, the government takes care of that already!  I'm
>> sure
>> you have a box of MB keys around somewhere to give/sell as talismans to
>> those of us who are also adherents.  I think you are golden, there Kaleb.
>> You will need to work out a percentage scale with Donald, though, and the
>> rest of us will expect a good supply of low priced parts for our expert
>> testimony and admission to being converted to a similar faith.  Make sure
>> you burn your hard drive after you read this so there is no trace of this
>> as
>> a made up religion, though ...
>> BillR
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> ]
>> On Behalf Of Donald Snook
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 12:28 PM
>> To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze is back on
>>
>> Kaleb wrote: "Got whacked today at work.  I at least have 30 days left
>> there, could have been worse.  Will get a severance package after that,
>> but
>> the buying freeze is now back on.  As much as I would love to, I guess Im
>> not going to go after that 140 with the broken valve cover etc like I
>> planned."
>>
>> Sorry to hear that Kaleb.  I hope you find something soon.  Too bad you
>> are
>> not black, or a woman or were sexually harassed.  If you were I could
>> represent you and we could sue their pants off.
>>
>> We've never met in person so I am assuming You're not a black woman who
>> was
>> sexually harassed and prevented from exercising your religion.
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze is back on

2008-12-10 Thread Tim C.
Kaleb,

I sell stuff on CL all the time, fully 10% of my sales meetings are missed by 
the buyer.  Half of those I never hear from the guy again.

No good seller will be a jerk that you lost your job and want to hang on to 
your cash, and you don't want to deal with a bad seller anyway.  He might even 
hire you to get it running, and/or part it on commission.  Might be worth 
suggesting in fact, give him your number and let him mull it over; if someone 
had offered to part - or fix on spec based on the future sale - my Volvo for 
20% I'd have been all over it, 50% I'd have thought pretty hard. 

Contrary to the others on the list, I was glad I cashed out my 401(k) when I 
lost my job in early '06.  It wasn't a lot but the 80% kept the mortgage and 
important bills current, so when I got a real job we weren't too far in the 
hole; when I paid the penalty and taxes it was 12 months later and by that time 
I had income.  Of course the market was pretty good at the time and we didn't 
mind being out for a few years (not bad speculation in retrospect), so the 
calculation was different.

Does OK have state technical schools?  That might be a fast way to a mechanic 
or paralegal or nursing certificate or something.  My wife's been going to one 
here and I've been pleasantly surprised at the quality of the program.

I don't recommend my local friends go to a 4-year university for computer stuff 
if they aren't already total geeks; the market (here in NC at least) is not 
good enough to make it worth the investment of time unless they just really 
would do it anyway and can afford being out of work for 5-6 years, in which 
case I say carpe diem. :)

There are lots of other degrees/jobs in which there isn't so much labor 
competition; many of the restaurant owners, general contractors, and mechanics 
around here used to work at pre-2000 Nortel/Cisco/Lucent/IBM/etc.  I've 
recently been solicited for two jobs with investment firms (a dramatic industry 
change) too, so look there; they must be seriously shorthanded as I'm not at 
all looking.

OTOH like others have said if you can keep doing what you're doing on a 1099 
from local dealers, go for that.  You can go to school on the side if you want 
to get something else on the resume.  (After all someone has to take stock 
photos, having all the autos in one lot is so 20th century.  Bet you could spin 
the model to cars.com :)

Sorry to hear, though.   It's tough to be on the receiving end of a layoff.  
Hope it goes well for you between now and then.

Best,
-Tim

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Date: Wednesday, Dec 10, 2008 1:08 pm
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yea, thats true.  Crap, I dont know.  I hate to let lose of any money 
>right now, but on the other hand, I did make a deal with the guy and he 
>pulled it off CL for me, hate to screw him.
>
>Mitch Haley wrote:
> Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
>> Got whacked today at work.  I at least have 30 days left there, could 
>> have been worse.  Will get a severance package after that, but the 
>> buying freeze is now back on.  As much as I would love to, I guess Im 
>> not going to go after that 140 with the broken valve cover etc like I 
>> planned.
> 
> But you've got time to fix it now...
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Re: [MBZ] More Craigslist beauties

2008-12-10 Thread Curt Raymond
So they aren't just carbed disasters? I'm thinking that guy might take quite a 
bit less than $2k...

-Curt

Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:10:58 -0500
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] More Craigslist beauties
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I bet the 280 cruise control doesn't work!

Seriously, those are nice cars!  Same as Randy's incomparable W115 mittlerot
300D, but quieter...



On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Do a search on your local Craig's for "classic" the results can make you
> laugh. Heres some of the better cars I found.
>
> http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/952093069.html - Cheap SL
>
> http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/952273423.html - Cheap old Bimmer
>
> http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/929231735.html - 280 - Wish I could
> find one of these with an injected engine. This is one of those cars that
> has the hard to synch carbs right?


  
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Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze is back on

2008-12-10 Thread OK Don
SO, what other avenues are there to sell cars on-line? Use another
service. Find a way to manage their on-line sales for them.
Perhaps Wonko will host a shopping cart site on hie laptop for you to
sell from --

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 7:32 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here is the deal.  Autotrader.com bought another company called carspot.com
> end of last year.  Carspot does the inventory collection competing with
> another company called Dealer Specialties (which used to be owned by trader
> publishing but split off when our company split a couple of years ago.
>  Apparently the story I get is that this Carspot company is not doing so
> well, so it sounds like autotrader.com is getting rid of it, shutting it
> down, or something.  So, Im not sure the ability will even be there to do
> that even from a contractor standpoint, since the infrastructure will no
> longer exist.  There is alot of backend stuff that goes along with it that I
> assume will no longer be there.

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Re: [MBZ] VIN check please

2008-12-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin


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Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze is back on

2008-12-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Here is the deal.  Autotrader.com bought another company called 
carspot.com end of last year.  Carspot does the inventory collection 
competing with another company called Dealer Specialties (which used to 
be owned by trader publishing but split off when our company split a 
couple of years ago.  Apparently the story I get is that this Carspot 
company is not doing so well, so it sounds like autotrader.com is 
getting rid of it, shutting it down, or something.  So, Im not sure the 
ability will even be there to do that even from a contractor standpoint, 
since the infrastructure will no longer exist.  There is alot of backend 
stuff that goes along with it that I assume will no longer be there.


Loren Faeth wrote:
Maybe you can go around ahead of the sales manager and tell them you 
will contract to do the work for what they were paying AT.  Go 
freelance.   You might be money ahead.  You can still go around and take 
the pictures and do the postings.  You already know how to do that.  One 
of the dealers might even sponsor you if you need a little extra jack to 
get going.



At 12:11 PM 12/10/2008, you wrote:
maybe I should have a sex/race operation.  I have decided though the 
time I have left Im going to combine all my work into 1 or 2 days a 
week and take the rest of the week off.  Screw 'em.  I guess today the 
sales manager is having to go around to all the dealers we have signed 
up for this new project I was working and tell them we will no longer 
be offering it after 30 days.  I bet it pisses some of them off so 
they wont run in the book either.  You are talking about a MASSIVE 
problem for these dealers.  They have switched everything over to 
where we (I) and collecting photos and info about their inventory, 
which then gets fed to all the various websites.  Its a massive 
project to switch all that back over again, and will be very expensive 
for the dealer.


Donald Snook wrote:
Kaleb wrote: "Got whacked today at work.  I at least have 30 days 
left there, could have been worse.  Will get a severance package 
after that, but the buying freeze is now back on.  As much as I would 
love to, I guess Im not going to go after that 140 with the broken 
valve cover etc like I planned."
Sorry to hear that Kaleb.  I hope you find something soon.  Too bad 
you are not black, or a woman or were sexually harassed.  If you were 
I could represent you and we could sue their pants off.
We've never met in person so I am assuming You're not a black woman 
who was sexually harassed and prevented from exercising your religion.


Donald H. Snook
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Re: [MBZ] Coolant Leak/Vacuum in Radiator

2008-12-10 Thread OK Don
Result of coolant expansion when hot (overflowing), but no vent action
in the cap, so lower pressure once it cools?

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote:
>>
>> Loren,
>> I am curious-does this explain the vacuum in the radiator or is that
>> normal
>> on these?
>
> If the water runs out, air has to get in or there will be suction. Maybe the
> vent in the radiator cap is clogged?
>


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Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze -- idea and encouragement

2008-12-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
They have not got my package together yet, but I will have to sign 
something Im sure.  The last time this happened and I was offered the 
package, or the choice to take a different position, the severance would 
 end if I took a job with another Cox company, or with Dominion which 
is the other half of our once whole company.  Dont remember anything 
about competing, ie, working for say another advertising company of some 
sort for example.


LWB250 wrote:

This brings up an important point - be careful about your employer trying to 
foist a non-compete or some other arrangement that would prevent you from doing 
something competitive.  Since they're laying you off it would be difficult for 
them to do, but that's not to say they wouldn't try.

I had a former employer try this when they RIF'ed me, and I refused to sign the 
paper.  It was a part of my severance package, but when I balked they backed 
down.

Dan



--- On Wed, 12/10/08, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


From: Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze -- idea and encouragement
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 6:07 PM
You have good computer skills already (you seem to do OK
with this list, keeping it going), and you have picked up
whatever business it was you got whacked from, and they are
bailing out from customers who apparently wanted the service
-- just do it yourself and get those guys as customers. 
Your company has left a great gaping hole for you to walk

right into.  Talk to them about being a contractor or
consultant or something where they don't have to carry
you as an employee, but would pay you for whatever it is you
would do on some basis as a freelancer.  Keep using their
service (which I presume has some brand awareness?) but do
it on a commission or some other basis.

You know the business, you know computer stuff, you are a
hard working half-smart guy (which puts you ahead of about
90% of the rest of the population) -- just run with it.

--R

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

seems our company has been making all the wrong

decisions as of late. We  me for instance, I produce
revenue, and if they would work it right, could produce alot
more revenue.  Its just stupid.



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Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze -- idea and encouragement

2008-12-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

yea, I may see what comes out of it.

Rich Thomas wrote:
You have good computer skills already (you seem to do OK with this list, 
keeping it going), and you have picked up whatever business it was you 
got whacked from, and they are bailing out from customers who apparently 
wanted the service -- just do it yourself and get those guys as 
customers.  Your company has left a great gaping hole for you to walk 
right into.  Talk to them about being a contractor or consultant or 
something where they don't have to carry you as an employee, but would 
pay you for whatever it is you would do on some basis as a freelancer.  
Keep using their service (which I presume has some brand awareness?) but 
do it on a commission or some other basis.


You know the business, you know computer stuff, you are a hard working 
half-smart guy (which puts you ahead of about 90% of the rest of the 
population) -- just run with it.


--R

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
seems our company has been making all the wrong decisions as of late. 
We  me for instance, I produce revenue, and if they would work it 
right, could produce alot more revenue.  Its just stupid.





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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes winter driving was Re: 2wd vs 4wd

2008-12-10 Thread OK Don
I don't remember what brand tires they are either, but they're the
BEST snow tires I've EVER had!  It hasn't snowed enough to use them
since I got the car!

> But, I did think once the snow tires were on it, the car did fairly well. 
> However, I prefer >driving front wheel drive cars in the snow. Again, it is 
> probably just my own >experiences with FWD versus RWD.  I don't remember what 
> brand snow tires I put on >the car - you can ask Ok Don and see if he likes 
> them.  I never did put four snow tires >on the car, it wasn't worth it to me 
> driving in the limited amount of snow that we get >here in Kansas.
>
>
> Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] VIN check please

2008-12-10 Thread Alex Chamberlain
Curt, I forwarded you an Autocheck report - check your spam folder if
you don't see it.  Not much in it - new truck looks clean.



On 12/10/08, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 1FTZR45EX3PA68911
>
> Just out of curiosity. Should be (dammed well better be) an '03 Ford Ranger.
>
> -Curt
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] VIN check please

2008-12-10 Thread Wilton Strickland
"This the one you just bought?

Wilton

- Original Message -
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Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 7:37 PM
Subject: [MBZ] VIN check please


> 1FTZR45EX3PA68911
>
> Just out of curiosity. Should be (dammed well better be) an '03 Ford
Ranger.
>
> -Curt
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] photos of the new E-Class

2008-12-10 Thread Allan Streib
Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=137466?tid=edmunds.il.home.photopanel..1.*#2

Generic.  Looks like anything else coming out of Toyota, Honda, Lexus,
etc.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze is back on

2008-12-10 Thread Allan Streib
Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Oddly, I just talked to a retired engineer this afternoon at the used
> book store.  He said the idiots pulling in front of trains really gets
> to you after a while, and he is quite thankful he no longer has to sit
> there are watch the train smash cars.
>
> Pretty much a DAILY occurance for someone to race the train to the
> crossing or dodge around the gates right in front of him.
>
> Didn't say how many people died from his train hitting them and I
> didn't ask, but it was much more than one

What used to happen, not all that uncommonly, when I rode the Metra in
and out of Chicago, was PEOPLE stepping out in front of a train.
Especially the Burlington Northern line, where they have three tracks
and the outermost tracks are for the local trains inbound and outbound,
and the center track is for the express line (inbound in the AM,
outbound in the PM).  People would get off the train, glance the other
way and the tracks appeared clear, and then try to hustle across in
front of the stopped train so as not to have to wait for it to clear the
station -- only to be creamed by an express train they never saw, doing
60 MPH on the center track.

Incidentally in the city of Chicago, they have almost no grade-level
railroad crossings. That's not true in the suburbs though.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] photos of the new E-Class

2008-12-10 Thread Loren Faeth



It looks like an uglied up chrysler something.  Especially from the 
front.  Maybe i could get used to it, but a 123, 124 and of course 
the 126 all look better to me.


At 05:08 PM 12/10/2008, you wrote:

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=137466?tid=edmunds.il.home.photopanel..1.*#2


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[MBZ] VIN check please

2008-12-10 Thread Curt Raymond
1FTZR45EX3PA68911

Just out of curiosity. Should be (dammed well better be) an '03 Ford Ranger.

-Curt



  
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Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze is back on

2008-12-10 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Shheeettt, sorry to hear about the lay off, maybe it's time to go into 
the Merc wrecking/fixing business full time.


The problem I see with the 140 is the price of parts, especially if 
there was piston - valve contact (which I doubt) but still, someone over 
here had this happen to a 126 420SE and it cost him a lot to fix, parts 
alone where something like AU$3-4K.

Perhaps talk to Rusty and come up with best and worse case scenario.
Either that or bodgy it up and sell it to some sucker but there again 
finding a buyer is gonna be a bit of a pain.


Anyway best of luck, at least now you know where you're at and can move 
on, perhaps get a temp job as Santa in the local mall.


Hendrik

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
yea, thats true.  Crap, I dont know.  I hate to let lose of any money 
right now, but on the other hand, I did make a deal with the guy and 
he pulled it off CL for me, hate to screw him.





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Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze is back on

2008-12-10 Thread Loren Faeth
Maybe you can go around ahead of the sales manager and tell them you 
will contract to do the work for what they were paying AT.  Go 
freelance.   You might be money ahead.  You can still go around and 
take the pictures and do the postings.  You already know how to do 
that.  One of the dealers might even sponsor you if you need a little 
extra jack to get going.



At 12:11 PM 12/10/2008, you wrote:
maybe I should have a sex/race operation.  I have decided though the 
time I have left Im going to combine all my work into 1 or 2 days a 
week and take the rest of the week off.  Screw 'em.  I guess today 
the sales manager is having to go around to all the dealers we have 
signed up for this new project I was working and tell them we will 
no longer be offering it after 30 days.  I bet it pisses some of 
them off so they wont run in the book either.  You are talking about 
a MASSIVE problem for these dealers.  They have switched everything 
over to where we (I) and collecting photos and info about their 
inventory, which then gets fed to all the various websites.  Its a 
massive project to switch all that back over again, and will be very 
expensive for the dealer.


Donald Snook wrote:
Kaleb wrote: "Got whacked today at work.  I at least have 30 days 
left there, could have been worse.  Will get a severance package 
after that, but the buying freeze is now back on.  As much as I 
would love to, I guess Im not going to go after that 140 with the 
broken valve cover etc like I planned."
Sorry to hear that Kaleb.  I hope you find something soon.  Too bad 
you are not black, or a woman or were sexually harassed.  If you 
were I could represent you and we could sue their pants off.
We've never met in person so I am assuming You're not a black woman 
who was sexually harassed and prevented from exercising your religion.


Donald H. Snook
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Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze is back on

2008-12-10 Thread Peter Frederick
Oddly, I just talked to a retired engineer this afternoon at the used  
book store.  He said the idiots pulling in front of trains really  
gets to you after a while, and he is quite thankful he no longer has  
to sit there are watch the train smash cars.


Pretty much a DAILY occurance for someone to race the train to the  
crossing or dodge around the gates right in front of him.


Didn't say how many people died from his train hitting them and I  
didn't ask, but it was much more than one


Peter

On Dec 10, 2008, at 5:50 PM, Bill R wrote:

The husband of a former secretary was an engineer, and he was gone  
for the
run from Danville ILL to Evansville, IN, then they would send him  
home in a
cab.  Twenty two hours portal to portal twice a week, if my 30 year  
ago
memory is correct.  He is now head of Public Affairs and Safety for  
CSX, and
spends much more time away from home than he did as an engineer.   
Time away
from home depends on the job.  BTW, a wrecker pulled around the  
crossing
gates and a stopped train right in front of him several years ago.   
The
Engineer is taught to hit the floor [danger of decapitation from  
flying
hoods] and said that other than the sound he was not able to detect  
even a
shudder in the train when it demolished the rather substantial  
truck. He
also still remembers the look of sheer terror on the face of the  
driver when
he realized the situation he had put himself into.  Do be careful  
on those
RR crossings, you might gain a few minutes each time you are right,  
but you

will lose big time if you are wrong even once.
BillR

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Allan Streib
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 2:51 PM
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"Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:


http://www.unionpacific.jobs/careers/working/index.shtml


Cool -- certainly the idea of working for a railroad is very  
"romantic"
I would think, for a lot of people.  Drawback I would think would  
be the

potential for being away from home a lot, at least if you're on the
actual train crew.

Allan


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Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze is back on

2008-12-10 Thread Bill R
No, he'd be offering company $500 for the wreck.
BillR

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane
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When Kalebs drive trains ...

http://images.morris.com/images/cjonline/mdControlled/cms/2007/05/07/1681590
03.jpg

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 2:02 PM, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Wonko the Sane wrote:
>
>> Lots of UP folks in this area. Don't know any that hate their jobs and
>> they
>> make a whole lot more money than I do. Good job security, too. The
>> railroads
>> are not going away any time soon.
>>
>
> They're one of the few industries that is doing pretty good!
>
> John
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Re: [MBZ] photos of the new E-Class

2008-12-10 Thread E M
Doubt I will either, but I always like to window shop and know what I'll be
in the market for 10 or so years down the road. ;-)  I see it now, "'08
S550, silver, charcoal interior, only 120,000 kms.  Willing to take a
vintage W124 on trade".  hee hee

Ed
300E

2008/12/10 Wilton Strickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> 'Likely to top $90k?  I may not be buying a new E63 after all.
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Donald Snook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 6:08 PM
> Subject: [MBZ] photos of the new E-Class
>
>
> >
>
> http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=137466?tid=edmunds.il.ho
> me.photopanel..1.*#2
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Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze is back on

2008-12-10 Thread Bill R
The husband of a former secretary was an engineer, and he was gone for the
run from Danville ILL to Evansville, IN, then they would send him home in a
cab.  Twenty two hours portal to portal twice a week, if my 30 year ago
memory is correct.  He is now head of Public Affairs and Safety for CSX, and
spends much more time away from home than he did as an engineer.  Time away
from home depends on the job.  BTW, a wrecker pulled around the crossing
gates and a stopped train right in front of him several years ago.  The
Engineer is taught to hit the floor [danger of decapitation from flying
hoods] and said that other than the sound he was not able to detect even a
shudder in the train when it demolished the rather substantial truck. He
also still remembers the look of sheer terror on the face of the driver when
he realized the situation he had put himself into.  Do be careful on those
RR crossings, you might gain a few minutes each time you are right, but you
will lose big time if you are wrong even once.
BillR 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Allan Streib
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 2:51 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze is back on

"Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

> http://www.unionpacific.jobs/careers/working/index.shtml

Cool -- certainly the idea of working for a railroad is very "romantic"
I would think, for a lot of people.  Drawback I would think would be the
potential for being away from home a lot, at least if you're on the
actual train crew.

Allan


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Re: [MBZ] photos of the new E-Class

2008-12-10 Thread Wilton Strickland
'Likely to top $90k?  I may not be buying a new E63 after all.

Wilton

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Subject: [MBZ] photos of the new E-Class


>
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=137466?tid=edmunds.il.ho
me.photopanel..1.*#2
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] photos of the new E-Class

2008-12-10 Thread E M
Not bad.  Not sure about the rear end, hard to really tell from the pics.
Looks like the tail lights may be integrated into the rear fender arches a
bit.  Angle of the rear lights reminds me a bit of that high end Nissan
(Infiniti), which I wasn't too fond of.

I like the new S, so I think some of those styling elements look good on the
E too.  I've seen a few pics of the new E interior, and it's very similar to
the S.

As far as the current lineup of cars goes, I wish they had carried a bit
more of the styling of the new S rear end over to the coupe.  I think the
sedan's rear is much more elegant than the coupe's rear.

It's nice to see some boldness with the design of the last crop of Mercs.
Also nice to see the quality returning to where it should be in cars in this
league.

Ed
300E

2008/12/10 Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>
> http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=137466?tid=edmunds.il.home.photopanel..1.*#2
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Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze -- idea and encouragement

2008-12-10 Thread Wilton Strickland
'Zackly.  But only HALF-smart?  ;<)))

Wilton

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> You have good computer skills already (you seem to do OK with this list, 
> keeping it going), and you have picked up whatever business it was you 
> got whacked from, and they are bailing out from customers who apparently 
> wanted the service -- just do it yourself and get those guys as 
> customers.  Your company has left a great gaping hole for you to walk 
> right into.  Talk to them about being a contractor or consultant or 
> something where they don't have to carry you as an employee, but would 
> pay you for whatever it is you would do on some basis as a freelancer.  
> Keep using their service (which I presume has some brand awareness?) but 
> do it on a commission or some other basis.
> 
> You know the business, you know computer stuff, you are a hard working 
> half-smart guy (which puts you ahead of about 90% of the rest of the 
> population) -- just run with it.
> 
> --R
> 
> Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> > seems our company has been making all the wrong decisions as of late. 
> > We  me for instance, I produce revenue, and if they would work it 
> > right, could produce alot more revenue.  Its just stupid.
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze -- idea and encouragement

2008-12-10 Thread LWB250
This brings up an important point - be careful about your employer trying to 
foist a non-compete or some other arrangement that would prevent you from doing 
something competitive.  Since they're laying you off it would be difficult for 
them to do, but that's not to say they wouldn't try.

I had a former employer try this when they RIF'ed me, and I refused to sign the 
paper.  It was a part of my severance package, but when I balked they backed 
down.

Dan



--- On Wed, 12/10/08, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze -- idea and encouragement
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 6:07 PM
> You have good computer skills already (you seem to do OK
> with this list, keeping it going), and you have picked up
> whatever business it was you got whacked from, and they are
> bailing out from customers who apparently wanted the service
> -- just do it yourself and get those guys as customers. 
> Your company has left a great gaping hole for you to walk
> right into.  Talk to them about being a contractor or
> consultant or something where they don't have to carry
> you as an employee, but would pay you for whatever it is you
> would do on some basis as a freelancer.  Keep using their
> service (which I presume has some brand awareness?) but do
> it on a commission or some other basis.
> 
> You know the business, you know computer stuff, you are a
> hard working half-smart guy (which puts you ahead of about
> 90% of the rest of the population) -- just run with it.
> 
> --R
> 
> Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> > seems our company has been making all the wrong
> decisions as of late. We  me for instance, I produce
> revenue, and if they would work it right, could produce alot
> more revenue.  Its just stupid.
> > 
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[MBZ] photos of the new E-Class

2008-12-10 Thread Donald Snook
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=137466?tid=edmunds.il.home.photopanel..1.*#2


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Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze -- idea and encouragement

2008-12-10 Thread Rich Thomas
You have good computer skills already (you seem to do OK with this list, 
keeping it going), and you have picked up whatever business it was you 
got whacked from, and they are bailing out from customers who apparently 
wanted the service -- just do it yourself and get those guys as 
customers.  Your company has left a great gaping hole for you to walk 
right into.  Talk to them about being a contractor or consultant or 
something where they don't have to carry you as an employee, but would 
pay you for whatever it is you would do on some basis as a freelancer.  
Keep using their service (which I presume has some brand awareness?) but 
do it on a commission or some other basis.


You know the business, you know computer stuff, you are a hard working 
half-smart guy (which puts you ahead of about 90% of the rest of the 
population) -- just run with it.


--R

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
seems our company has been making all the wrong decisions as of late. 
We  me for instance, I produce revenue, and if they would work it 
right, could produce alot more revenue.  Its just stupid.





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Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze is back on

2008-12-10 Thread Rich Thomas

He does have an Hispanic surname though, that might work?

--R

Donald Snook wrote:

We've never met in person so I am assuming You're not a black woman who was 
sexually harassed and prevented from exercising your religion.


Donald H. Snook


  


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Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze is back on

2008-12-10 Thread John Robbins

Wonko the Sane wrote:

I doubt if they would post train crew openings on the web site. You apply to
the company, get accepted and then go to a school (not too long, if I
remember). This isn't the sort of job that the average individual has
experience doing, anyway. There is always turnover (retirements, etc.) so
they would have to have a pipeline of new hires going all the time.


http://www.railjobs.com/




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Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze back on

2008-12-10 Thread Wonko the Sane
Just don't sign any contracts with a Saturn dealer.

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> I have thought about that possibility.  Im probably going to be laying low
> until friday when I will be back at some of my big dealers.  They are going
> to be in a tight, so who knows, maybe they will offer me a job of some sort.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Wife dropped of MB at garage today

2008-12-10 Thread Chuck Landenberger

Hi,

If memory serves ...  Marshall Booth cautioned against any  
steering box over 1/4 turn.  And remember, adjustments are opposite  
US Steering boxes.  On an MB, to tighten, loosen lock nut and turn  
COUNTERCLOCKWISE!.


Take care,

Chuck
Phoenix AZ

On Dec 10, 2008, at 11:04 AM, John Robbins wrote:


Max Dillon wrote:

the girl behind the counter offered that they would try to adjust the
box first. I'm not in favor of that, I know that on the 123 boxes
there is risk of binding and increased wear, is that true for the 124
boxes as well?


The increased wear and binding is only if you over adjust the box.  
Otherwise, adjusting it isn't a problem.  If you do notice the  
binding and/or returning to center take it back and make them  
adjust it again!


John


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Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze back on

2008-12-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I have thought about that possibility.  Im probably going to be laying 
low until friday when I will be back at some of my big dealers.  They 
are going to be in a tight, so who knows, maybe they will offer me a job 
of some sort.


Wilton Strickland wrote:

Kaleb, since the dealers are gonna be pissed at losing the ad deals you sold
'em for your boss, is there a way you could take 'em over and do 'em in an
ad business for yourself?  You already know HOW to do it, don't you?  Can
you turn this into a business opportunity for yourself somehow?

Wilton


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Re: [MBZ] Coolant Leak/Vacuum in Radiator

2008-12-10 Thread Mitch Haley

Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote:

Loren,
I am curious-does this explain the vacuum in the radiator or is that normal
on these?


If the water runs out, air has to get in or there will be suction. Maybe the 
vent in the radiator cap is clogged?



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Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze is back on

2008-12-10 Thread Mitch Haley

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Is there something I can roll it over to, and not have to pay a penalty 
and can them withdraw it from soon, like a short term CD or something?


You could roll it into an IRA at the local bank or credit union, buy a 3 month 
CD, and after twelve weeks of unemployment you could draw it out to buy medical 
insurance. Or you can spend it on college. Otherwise, you're going to eat that 
10% penalty for early distribution if you spend it.


Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] Compression measurement

2008-12-10 Thread Mitch Haley


Wow.
I believe that all the threaded adapters in my Harbor Freight gauge set have 
check valves in them. Putting the valve in the gauge head with a hose upstream 
from it is insane, unless it is intended for tractors with 8" diameter pistons.


Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] More Craigslist beauties

2008-12-10 Thread andrew strasfogel
I bet the 280 cruise control doesn't work!

Seriously, those are nice cars!  Same as Randy's incomparable W115 mittlerot
300D, but quieter...



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> Do a search on your local Craig's for "classic" the results can make you
> laugh. Heres some of the better cars I found.
>
> http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/952093069.html - Cheap SL
>
> http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/952273423.html - Cheap old Bimmer
>
> http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/929231735.html - 280 - Wish I could
> find one of these with an injected engine. This is one of those cars that
> has the hard to synch carbs right?
>
> http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/923341552.html - Punch buggy for more
> than its original price...
>
> http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/920798208.html - Another good deal
> Sub.
>
> http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/948420809.html - Cheap 116 gasser
>
> -Curt
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] probably buying new tires tomorrow

2008-12-10 Thread Wilton Strickland
I dId, exactly.

Wilton

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> Think of it as a maintenance test flight.
>
> On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Wilton Strickland
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
> > I used to "find" some patches of ice in Lincoln, NE, and the MI UP
> > occasionally, but never tried to find one deliberately.  ;<))
> >
> > Wilton
> >
> >
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[MBZ] Buying freeze back on

2008-12-10 Thread Wilton Strickland
Kaleb, since the dealers are gonna be pissed at losing the ad deals you sold
'em for your boss, is there a way you could take 'em over and do 'em in an
ad business for yourself?  You already know HOW to do it, don't you?  Can
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Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze is back on

2008-12-10 Thread Christopher McCann
Took the new job and am working it from home, which is better than having to go 
somewhere. Although it is easier to get distracted when you are at home.

Chris



--- On Wed, 12/10/08, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze is back on
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 2:31 PM

So did you take the new job and you are working from home at it, or are you just
working from home for yourself?

Christopher McCann wrote:
> Kaleb,
> 
> Sorry to hear about your job. I quit mine (of 10 years) four months ago. I
was going to get fired, so I pre-empted it by quitting (was a non-profit, so I
would not have been able to collect unemployment anyway). I did one crappy job
for a while (courier), then did a bunch of odd jobs for a while (it's
amazing how many small jobs you can pick up without even trying very hard), then
was offered a job at a company similar to the one I left, but now I work from
home. SO, it turned out OK...better than before really. 
> You're a smart guy and you'll come out of this better than
before...even if you can't see what that might be yet. My two cents, since I
just went through the same kind of thing.
> 
> Halten die Ohren steif! (Hold your ears stiff...aka Hang in there!)
> 
> Chris
>  
> '85 300SD 241K mi/'92 Dodge B-350 Ram Wagon/'82 VW Vanagon
Diesel 229K mi/'75 240D/'80 300SD/'83 240D/'84 300Dt/'85
300Dt Cali (parting out)/'87 190E 2.3 (parting out)
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze is back on

2008-12-10 Thread Christopher McCann
I've noticed that here in KC. Might be because we are at the intersection of 
i-70 and i-35, but lots of UPS & yellow freight trucks here too. Diesel 
Mechanics are always in demand here...even in the current economic melt/down 
turn.

Chris

'85 300SD 241K mi/'92 Dodge B-350 Ram Wagon/'82 VW Vanagon Diesel 229K mi/'75 
240D/'80 300SD/'83 240D/'84 300Dt/'85 300Dt Cali (parting out)/'87 190E 2.3 
(parting out)

--- On Wed, 12/10/08, Alex Chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Alex Chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze is back on
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 2:27 PM

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Christopher McCann
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Apprentice Diesel Mechanic...that sounds really cool - and a neat training
program too. Unfortunately, no openings around KC or Claremore/Tulsa.
>

There are always good-paying jobs for diesel mechanics, especially if
you're willing to work somewhere far from civilization like on an oil
rig or in northern Alaska.  That's one job that is never going to be
outsourced---you're not going to ship a city bus over to India to have
the injectors changed.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze is back on

2008-12-10 Thread Christopher McCann
Apprentice diesel mechanic makes $17.54/hour (starting) then three years of 
apprenticeship under a journeyman, then you graduate to Diesel Mechanic. Not 
sure what the pay is then. 

Chris

'85 300SD 241K mi/'92 Dodge B-350 Ram Wagon/'82 VW Vanagon Diesel 229K mi/'75 
240D/'80 300SD/'83 240D/'84 300Dt/'85 300Dt Cali (parting out)/'87 190E 2.3 
(parting out)

--- On Wed, 12/10/08, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze is back on
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 2:50 PM

I doubt if they would post train crew openings on the web site. You apply to
the company, get accepted and then go to a school (not too long, if I
remember). This isn't the sort of job that the average individual has
experience doing, anyway. There is always turnover (retirements, etc.) so
they would have to have a pipeline of new hires going all the time.

Dispatcher is another nice job but forget where they are located.

What is the worst that can happen if you apply anyway?

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin
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> I looked and they didnt have any train crew openings, that looked
> interesting.
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] probably buying new tires tomorrow

2008-12-10 Thread Wonko the Sane
Think of it as a maintenance test flight.

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Wilton Strickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> I used to "find" some patches of ice in Lincoln, NE, and the MI UP
> occasionally, but never tried to find one deliberately.  ;<))
>
> Wilton
>
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Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze is back on

2008-12-10 Thread Wilton Strickland
"Buy more parts," he says.

Wilton

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> Kaleb,
> 
> Sorry to hear about that and remember that your friends and family are
> standing by to help in any way that we can.
> 
> Todd Smith
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin
> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 11:46
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> Subject: [MBZ] Buying freeze is back on
> 
> Got whacked today at work.  I at least have 30 days left there, could 
> have been worse.  Will get a severance package after that, but the 
> buying freeze is now back on.  As much as I would love to, I guess Im 
> not going to go after that 140 with the broken valve cover etc like I 
> planned.
> -- 
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>   89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2,
>   84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D,
> http://www.okiebenz.com
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Re: [MBZ] probably buying new tires tomorrow

2008-12-10 Thread Wilton Strickland
I used to "find" some patches of ice in Lincoln, NE, and the MI UP
occasionally, but never tried to find one deliberately.  ;<))

Wilton

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> Drove the 300E home with the new tires, just long enough to unload the old
> Michelins into the garage (Gene is going to put them on his hot rod
project
> car). Found a patch of ice and locked the brakes at about 20 mph. Car
> stopped. Anti-locks came on and I slid a very little bit but it definitely
> stopped quicker than it had with the Michelin X-Ones on.
>
> On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
> > I have the altimax on my 190D, but I have not had any snow time with
them
> > yet.
> >
> > Mitch Haley wrote:
> >
> >> Wonko the Sane wrote:
> >>
> >>> After going back and forth with myself over whether to buy four winter
> >>> tires
> >>> or four good all-season tires, I have just about talked myself into
> >>> getting
> >>> four Goodyear Assurance Triple Tred for the 300E tomorrow.  Ranked #1
at
> >>> TireRack.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Assuranc
e+TripleTred
> >>>
> >>
> >> 195/65/15?
> >>
> >> If so, they are $17 less than the MXV4, but $33 more than the Altimax
HP
> >> grand touring tires.
> >>
> >> http://tinyurl.com/195tires
> >>
> >> It's up to you. The Altimax HP pulls the Achieva over hills in deep
enough
> >> snow to drag the spoiler. (and that spoiler is 5-6" off the ground) I
can't
> >> speak for the Michelin or the Goodyear, but all three seem to be well
> >> regarded. Notice the similarities between the Tripletred and Altimax HP
> >> pictures. I'll know how good the Altimax really are when the snow gets
deep
> >> enough to drag the floorpan. Rain performance is the best I've ever
> >> experienced.
> >>
> >> High rated touring all season tires to look at:
> >> Pirelli P4 Four Seasons (only S speed, but $70 with good ratings)
> >> Yokohama AVID TRZ (also $70, T speed rated)
> >> Kumho Solus KR21 ($60, T)
> >> BFGoodrich Traction T/A T ($67, T-rated) $59 in 205/60/15 makes it a
> >> bargain
> >>
> >> High performance all season: (hey, when you're already at $100, these
are
> >> in your price range)
> >> Michelin Pilot Exalto A/S (these are kick butt tires for $103 or $102
in
> >> 205/60))
> >> Dunlop SP Sport Signature (oops, not available in 195/65/15)
> >>
> >> Ultra High performance all season (these are actually cheaper than the
> >> Goodyear tripletred)
> >> Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Pole Position
> >> Continental ContiExtremeContact (another one not available in 195/65)
> >> (I'm ignoring some high rated tires that aren't as high rated in deep
> >> snow)
> >>
> >> You might look at the Goodyear Eagle GT, but I suspect it isn't as snow
> >> oriented as the others I've mentioned. Good bit cheaper than the
tripletred
> >> though. Unless you're looking to cruise at 120mph, even the S rated
tires
> >> should be adequate, but the car probably came with T or H speed tires
when
> >> new.
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze is back on

2008-12-10 Thread Wonko the Sane
I doubt if they would post train crew openings on the web site. You apply to
the company, get accepted and then go to a school (not too long, if I
remember). This isn't the sort of job that the average individual has
experience doing, anyway. There is always turnover (retirements, etc.) so
they would have to have a pipeline of new hires going all the time.

Dispatcher is another nice job but forget where they are located.

What is the worst that can happen if you apply anyway?

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> I looked and they didnt have any train crew openings, that looked
> interesting.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze is back on

2008-12-10 Thread Wilton Strickland
'Mighty sorry 'bout that, Kaleb.

Wilton

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Subject: [MBZ] Buying freeze is back on


> Got whacked today at work.  I at least have 30 days left there, could 
> have been worse.  Will get a severance package after that, but the 
> buying freeze is now back on.  As much as I would love to, I guess Im 
> not going to go after that 140 with the broken valve cover etc like I 
> planned.
> -- 
> Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
>   92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL,
>   89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2,
>   84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D,
> http://www.okiebenz.com
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Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze is back on

2008-12-10 Thread Mitch Haley

Curt Raymond wrote:

Roll the 401k into an IRA. If you cash it you'll lose half or more. Its not 
that much but its something. IIRC you can take loans against the IRA later if 
needed.
I cashed out a small 401k once and wish I hadn't.


You can take loans from a 401k, but they must be repaid upon separation from the 
employer. IRAs cannot be used for loan collateral, they stop being IRAs the 
minute you borrow against them.


Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze is back on

2008-12-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I looked and they didnt have any train crew openings, that looked 
interesting.


John Robbins wrote:

Wonko the Sane wrote:
Lots of UP folks in this area. Don't know any that hate their jobs and 
they
make a whole lot more money than I do. Good job security, too. The 
railroads

are not going away any time soon.


They're one of the few industries that is doing pretty good!

John



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[MBZ] More Craigslist beauties

2008-12-10 Thread Curt Raymond
Do a search on your local Craig's for "classic" the results can make you laugh. 
Heres some of the better cars I found.

http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/952093069.html - Cheap SL

http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/952273423.html - Cheap old Bimmer

http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/929231735.html - 280 - Wish I could find 
one of these with an injected engine. This is one of those cars that has the 
hard to synch carbs right?

http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/923341552.html - Punch buggy for more than 
its original price...

http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/920798208.html - Another good deal Sub.

http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/948420809.html - Cheap 116 gasser

-Curt



  
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Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze is back on

2008-12-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
So did you take the new job and you are working from home at it, or are 
you just working from home for yourself?


Christopher McCann wrote:

Kaleb,

Sorry to hear about your job. I quit mine (of 10 years) four months ago. I was going to get fired, so I pre-empted it by quitting (was a non-profit, so I would not have been able to collect unemployment anyway). I did one crappy job for a while (courier), then did a bunch of odd jobs for a while (it's amazing how many small jobs you can pick up without even trying very hard), then was offered a job at a company similar to the one I left, but now I work from home. SO, it turned out OK...better than before really. 


You're a smart guy and you'll come out of this better than before...even if you 
can't see what that might be yet. My two cents, since I just went through the 
same kind of thing.

Halten die Ohren steif! (Hold your ears stiff...aka Hang in there!)

Chris
 


'85 300SD 241K mi/'92 Dodge B-350 Ram Wagon/'82 VW Vanagon Diesel 229K mi/'75 
240D/'80 300SD/'83 240D/'84 300Dt/'85 300Dt Cali (parting out)/'87 190E 2.3 
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Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze is back on

2008-12-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

hahahahahahahahahahaha

Bill R wrote:

Losing the job is not at all a good thing, though your assessment is
probably correct and it could well be better to get out now rather than
later.  


I think you should probably hook up with Donald on that idea of being
prevented from practicing your religion. After all, they are depriving you
of income, and it takes a lot of money to support your devotion to the
buying of ancient, decrepit and otherwise 'given up on' MB's, and even
raising them from the dead [with laying on of hands, no less]. A good
attorney could no doubt get that classified as your religion, and no doubt
Regina could give many stories that testify to that personal commitment to
it.  You could easily demonstrate more devotion to that faith than many who
sit in a pew could demonstrate their practice of faith.  You will need to
make sure you have some sort of ceremony each time you buy, sell, or dispose
of cars  no, wait, the government takes care of that already!  I'm sure
you have a box of MB keys around somewhere to give/sell as talismans to
those of us who are also adherents.  I think you are golden, there Kaleb.
You will need to work out a percentage scale with Donald, though, and the
rest of us will expect a good supply of low priced parts for our expert
testimony and admission to being converted to a similar faith.  Make sure
you burn your hard drive after you read this so there is no trace of this as
a made up religion, though ...
BillR  


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Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 12:28 PM
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Kaleb wrote: "Got whacked today at work.  I at least have 30 days left
there, could have been worse.  Will get a severance package after that, but
the buying freeze is now back on.  As much as I would love to, I guess Im
not going to go after that 140 with the broken valve cover etc like I
planned."

Sorry to hear that Kaleb.  I hope you find something soon.  Too bad you are
not black, or a woman or were sexually harassed.  If you were I could
represent you and we could sue their pants off.

We've never met in person so I am assuming You're not a black woman who was
sexually harassed and prevented from exercising your religion.


Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze is back on

2008-12-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

yea, thats true

Allan Streib wrote:

"Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

I have not changed my allocations since things have gone down, figured I 
would have time to make up my loses.  Im thinking now I should move it 
all into a fund that is no losing so I dont lose anymore money between 
now and whenever


I personally would not, because you're likely to miss out on a big chunk
of the recovery gains that way, when it eventually happens.  Since the
market is unpredictable, you're unlikely to get the timing right on when
to "jump back in"

Recently, by staying "in" your funds, you've been buying low.  Which is
what you want to be doing.

Allan
--
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Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze is back on

2008-12-10 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Christopher McCann
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Apprentice Diesel Mechanic...that sounds really cool - and a neat training 
> program too. Unfortunately, no openings around KC or Claremore/Tulsa.
>

There are always good-paying jobs for diesel mechanics, especially if
you're willing to work somewhere far from civilization like on an oil
rig or in northern Alaska.  That's one job that is never going to be
outsourced---you're not going to ship a city bus over to India to have
the injectors changed.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze is back on

2008-12-10 Thread Allan Streib
"Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

> When Kalebs drive trains ...
> 
> http://images.morris.com/images/cjonline/mdControlled/cms/2007/05/07/168159003.jpg

Clearly he was busy searching eBay for MBZ listings instead of watching
the road



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Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze is back on

2008-12-10 Thread Wonko the Sane
When Kalebs drive trains ...

http://images.morris.com/images/cjonline/mdControlled/cms/2007/05/07/168159003.jpg

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 2:02 PM, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Wonko the Sane wrote:
>
>> Lots of UP folks in this area. Don't know any that hate their jobs and
>> they
>> make a whole lot more money than I do. Good job security, too. The
>> railroads
>> are not going away any time soon.
>>
>
> They're one of the few industries that is doing pretty good!
>
> John
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Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze is back on

2008-12-10 Thread John Robbins

Wonko the Sane wrote:

Lots of UP folks in this area. Don't know any that hate their jobs and they
make a whole lot more money than I do. Good job security, too. The railroads
are not going away any time soon.


They're one of the few industries that is doing pretty good!

John



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Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze is back on

2008-12-10 Thread Donald Snook
Bill R. wrote: "I think you should probably hook up with Donald on that idea of 
being prevented from practicing your religion. After all, they are depriving 
you of income, and it takes a lot of money to support your devotion to the 
buying of ancient, decrepit and otherwise 'given up on' MB's, and even raising 
them from the dead [with laying on of hands, no less]. A good attorney could no 
doubt get that classified as your religion, and no doubt Regina could give many 
stories that testify to that personal commitment to it.  You could easily 
demonstrate more devotion to that faith than many who sit in a pew could 
demonstrate their practice of faith.  You will need to make sure you have some 
sort of ceremony each time you buy, sell, or dispose of cars  no, wait, the 
government takes care of that already!  I'm sure you have a box of MB keys 
around somewhere to give/sell as talismans to those of us who are also 
adherents.  I think you are golden, there Kaleb. You will need to work out a 
percentage scale with Donald, though, and the rest of us will expect a good 
supply of low priced parts for our expert testimony and admission to being 
converted to a similar faith.  Make sure you burn your hard drive after you 
read this so there is no trace of this as a made up religion, though ..."

Nice job, Bill. That made me laugh and I needed it!


Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge

2008-12-10 Thread Bill R
Thanks for the info Fred.  I'm going to try a couple of those homemade WiFi
antennas, but I am not anywhere near 300 meters from the other end of the
MIL apartment.
Thanks - BillR 

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   Klattavolk.
   300 meters, by the book, unless a router/switch etc is used.
   Fred Moir
   Dec 9, 2008 02:47:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 "Bill R" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
 > These are 12db, but are less effective than the short stock ones. I
 > think I am going to give up and install the 250' of CAT5 I have
sitting
 in a box
 > next to my computer.
 Even CAT5 has limited length on its runs. I'm not sure what it is,
 offhand.
 Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze is back on

2008-12-10 Thread Wonko the Sane
In some situations, it isn't necessarily a drawback.

Lots of UP folks in this area. Don't know any that hate their jobs and they
make a whole lot more money than I do. Good job security, too. The railroads
are not going away any time soon.

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> "Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> > http://www.unionpacific.jobs/careers/working/index.shtml
>
> Drawback I would think would be the
> potential for being away from home a lot, at least if you're on the
> actual train crew.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze is back on

2008-12-10 Thread Christopher McCann
Kaleb,

Sorry to hear about your job. I quit mine (of 10 years) four months ago. I was 
going to get fired, so I pre-empted it by quitting (was a non-profit, so I 
would not have been able to collect unemployment anyway). I did one crappy job 
for a while (courier), then did a bunch of odd jobs for a while (it's amazing 
how many small jobs you can pick up without even trying very hard), then was 
offered a job at a company similar to the one I left, but now I work from home. 
SO, it turned out OK...better than before really. 

You're a smart guy and you'll come out of this better than before...even if you 
can't see what that might be yet. My two cents, since I just went through the 
same kind of thing.

Halten die Ohren steif! (Hold your ears stiff...aka Hang in there!)

Chris
 

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240D/'80 300SD/'83 240D/'84 300Dt/'85 300Dt Cali (parting out)/'87 190E 2.3 
(parting out)

--- On Wed, 12/10/08, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze is back on
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 11:18 AM

Well, as many layoffs as going on, I bet it will be hard to find another job
anywhere near what I am making now, I will probably end up working at some
shithole convieniece store, or sitting in call center or something.  On the
bright side, I know I have 30 days left to start looking, after that I know I
will get at least 8 weeks severance pay, maybe more. I think I will get a cash
out on my pension which wont be much since they just started that when cox took
over.  Not sure what to do about my 401k yet, dont know if I should roll it over
into something or just cash it out as well.  I dont have much in there, only
been in it a year or so, probably have 3k in it, which is way down from what it
was since all the crashes etc.  Then if worse comes to worse, I still have cars
and parts I can sell to raise cash, unless I get forclosed on or something, then
Im screwed.  Wont have anywhere to put all my crap so I will probably just have
to dump it quick.

Peter Merle wrote:
> Hope you get a job soon , its happening down here in South Africa a lot as
> well
> Regards
> Peter
> 
> 2008/12/10 Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
>> Got whacked today at work.  I at least have 30 days left there, could
have
>> been worse.  Will get a severance package after that, but the buying
freeze
>> is now back on.  As much as I would love to, I guess Im not going to
go
>> after that 140 with the broken valve cover etc like I planned.
>> --
>> Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
>>  92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL,
>>  89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2,
>>  84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D,
>> http://www.okiebenz.com
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze is back on

2008-12-10 Thread Allan Streib
"Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

> http://www.unionpacific.jobs/careers/working/index.shtml

Cool -- certainly the idea of working for a railroad is very "romantic"
I would think, for a lot of people.  Drawback I would think would be the
potential for being away from home a lot, at least if you're on the
actual train crew.

Allan


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Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze is back on

2008-12-10 Thread Christopher McCann
Apprentice Diesel Mechanic...that sounds really cool - and a neat training 
program too. Unfortunately, no openings around KC or Claremore/Tulsa.

CM

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240D/'80 300SD/'83 240D/'84 300Dt/'85 300Dt Cali (parting out)/'87 190E 2.3 
(parting out)

--- On Wed, 12/10/08, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze is back on
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 1:31 PM

http://www.unionpacific.jobs/careers/working/index.shtml

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> I thought about going to school for something, maybe somethign computer
> related.  I dont know if it would do any good though if nobody is hiring.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze is back on

2008-12-10 Thread John Robbins

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
I thought about going to school for something, maybe somethign computer 
related.  I dont know if it would do any good though if nobody is hiring.


Depends on how long you're in school...

John


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Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze is back on

2008-12-10 Thread John Robbins

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
I have not changed my allocations since things have gone down, figured I 
would have time to make up my loses.  Im thinking now I should move it 
all into a fund that is no losing so I dont lose anymore money between 
now and whenever


If whenever is 20+ years from now just leave it alone.  I'm a big fan of 
index funds... super low fees and they are used to judge the performance 
of other funds.  I especially like them since I won't be retiring till 
35 years from now.  So I guess now is the time for me to buy like crazy.


Keep in mind that I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

John


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