Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance and hate
I don't think I perrsonally drove anyone away. I rarely intervene in the general flow of the list, and what little I do say is usualy looking for tidbits of information to help with my project, or a reply to an off-topic discussion. I guess I slipped up by giving an opinion about the double pane window thing, but that is hardly a reason for anyone to fly off the handle. I have no personal issue with anyone here, I understand we all have a difference in opinion, and that is a good thing. I just can't see why this is going on right now. Walt On Dec 19, 2010 1:29 AM, "Gary Hurst" wrote: > if you wish to learn, it's probably not best to drive jaime to unsubscribe. > he's not only a good fella, but has much specialized knowledge. first to > drive him off and then to just keep piling on is not stylish > > i also got an email from richard, the founder of this list, regarding the > endless slander he receives here > > you guys really act viciously and abnormally and i don't think you see it at > all > > On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 1:25 AM, Walt Zarnoch wrote: > >> Ok, I'm a nobody with less experience than most list member's pinky toes, >> but I won't stand people outright flaming. >> >> I don't care to know the exact nature of what was going on when I first >> joined the list, but it seems to be repeating itself. I don't know why. >> I don't care who started it, or their reasons. >> >> Are not we all above this? Does everything now devolve to people acting >> like >> rabid dogs? >> >> I joined this list to learn, not to get my inbox accosted with vitriolic >> hate. One would think that people who take pride in owning or working on a >> Benz would be better suited at turning the other cheek and acting congenial >> to their fellow man, especially during this season. >> >> Walt >> On Dec 19, 2010 12:49 AM, "Gary Hurst" wrote: >> > you and penoff are identical cousins maybe? >> > >> > the fools have already driven jaime off the lists. what more do you want >> > from him? he's left. everyone here must be like you? >> > >> > >> > On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Hendrik & Fay > >wrote: >> > >> >> Yes I saw you where back and it seems back to your usual way of >> expressing >> >> yourself. >> >> >> >> I reckon I still have the right to express thoughts on this list or >> perhaps >> >> you are now in charge and only mad rants, directed at whole sections of >> list >> >> members, are allowed (ie. the haters and ignorant ones) and the hating >> >> ignorant ones are especially going to feel the wrath of Jabba the hutt >> and >> >> the ueber master of automotive knowledge, or has he had his dummy spit, >> >> grabbed his bat and joined a more intelligent MB forum, where they >> >> appreciate the 140 and it's gadgets and deride any MB that cost less >> than >> >> 20K to buy. >> >> >> >> Now perhaps you would be good enough to point out the rule that posts, >> of >> a >> >> certain age, cannot be commented upon. The original post from the master >> was >> >> on the 13th of December and unfortunately I have been busy, thus unable >> to >> >> catch up on all the posts sent by the members. >> >> >> >> There are lots of things wrong with me but I think the one you are >> >> referring to is the one where I am not happy for a list member to call >> the >> >> list (or some members thereof) ignorant because they declared the 140 to >> be >> >> a step back for Mercedes, or at the very least contain some very >> expensive >> >> components that fail in a time frame not usual for a Benz product. >> >> >> >> Perhaps Jaime could get a job at Daimler as a customer liaison >> executive, >> >> in charge of telling them that they are ignorant to be unhappy that >> their >> MB >> >> is spending a lot of time in the workshop and the reason the MB's of the >> mid >> >> 90's to late 00's are less reliable than the cars they replaced is that >> this >> >> is how automotive development works. "We tried to build a more >> sophisticated >> >> machine on a smaller budget and it just didn't work out quite the way it >> was >> >> supposed to but that's OK with us, we get to sell some very expensive >> bits >> >> to you ignorant fools." >> >> >> >> Hendrik >> >> who is ignorant and hates some things, like machines that I can't repair >> >> >> >> Gary Hurst wrote: >> >> >> >>> can't you guys leave anything alone? he's unsubscribed already and it's >> >>> been a while. wtf is wrong with you? >> >>> >> >>> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 9:05 AM, Hendrik & Fay < heni...@ozemail.com.au >> >>> >wrote: >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Not sure if I should say anything, I may be accused of being ignorant >> by >> the new high master of knowledge. >> However being a daredevil I shall try and sneak some stupidity past >> the >> overlord of automotive development information, guess if he catches me >> I'll >> cop a beating with the workshop manual of the W140 (and that's gotta >> hurt, >> especially if it includes the electronic section).
Re: [MBZ] RUF
I'm not sure, as the AMG catalog I have was before AMG was absorbed by Mercedes. As for the the body kits, there may be a few couple of places out there that have copied the old AMG bits. I think Ronial make or made a rim very similar to what was offered during the period by AMG. As for engine bits, I have no idea, but there are probably much better options today for such projects anyway. For what your dollar would buy you in NOS AMG parts, or used bits, you could probably do an engine swap and end up with just as a much, or more power, and replacement parts wouldn't be such a hassle either. There is a guy on YouTube who has a W123 wagon, with a 560 engine in it. Nicely done from the looks of it. I think I have the link somewhere if interested in me posting it? If you can get your hands on an older catalog by a company called (from memory, G&W), they offered all kind of kits for a variety of cars in Germany. Not sure if any company still offers bits for the W123, but at least an old catalog would give you some of the names of companies that once did, so you could then take your search to eBay and such places. Original (pre mercedes) AMG parts are pretty much made of unobtainium now, and priced accordingly. But things like old 560 engines are now plentiful, and cheap, so these projects can happen, if you have the time to invest yourself. If not, paying someone to do them can still run kind of high, even if the parts can be had cheap. Ed 300E On 18 December 2010 23:48, MG wrote: > Sounds like I may be going on an unfulfilled quest. Where would one find > pieces like that now a days? > > Manfred > > > > Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 21:15:27 -0500 > > From: E M > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] RUF > > Will do Manfred. Fellow around here had one, or the body kit and wheels on > a 123 wagon years ago. I thought it looked great. > > Ed > 300E > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance and hate
if you wish to learn, it's probably not best to drive jaime to unsubscribe. he's not only a good fella, but has much specialized knowledge. first to drive him off and then to just keep piling on is not stylish i also got an email from richard, the founder of this list, regarding the endless slander he receives here you guys really act viciously and abnormally and i don't think you see it at all On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 1:25 AM, Walt Zarnoch wrote: > Ok, I'm a nobody with less experience than most list member's pinky toes, > but I won't stand people outright flaming. > > I don't care to know the exact nature of what was going on when I first > joined the list, but it seems to be repeating itself. I don't know why. > I don't care who started it, or their reasons. > > Are not we all above this? Does everything now devolve to people acting > like > rabid dogs? > > I joined this list to learn, not to get my inbox accosted with vitriolic > hate. One would think that people who take pride in owning or working on a > Benz would be better suited at turning the other cheek and acting congenial > to their fellow man, especially during this season. > > Walt > On Dec 19, 2010 12:49 AM, "Gary Hurst" wrote: > > you and penoff are identical cousins maybe? > > > > the fools have already driven jaime off the lists. what more do you want > > from him? he's left. everyone here must be like you? > > > > > > On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Hendrik & Fay >wrote: > > > >> Yes I saw you where back and it seems back to your usual way of > expressing > >> yourself. > >> > >> I reckon I still have the right to express thoughts on this list or > perhaps > >> you are now in charge and only mad rants, directed at whole sections of > list > >> members, are allowed (ie. the haters and ignorant ones) and the hating > >> ignorant ones are especially going to feel the wrath of Jabba the hutt > and > >> the ueber master of automotive knowledge, or has he had his dummy spit, > >> grabbed his bat and joined a more intelligent MB forum, where they > >> appreciate the 140 and it's gadgets and deride any MB that cost less > than > >> 20K to buy. > >> > >> Now perhaps you would be good enough to point out the rule that posts, > of > a > >> certain age, cannot be commented upon. The original post from the master > was > >> on the 13th of December and unfortunately I have been busy, thus unable > to > >> catch up on all the posts sent by the members. > >> > >> There are lots of things wrong with me but I think the one you are > >> referring to is the one where I am not happy for a list member to call > the > >> list (or some members thereof) ignorant because they declared the 140 to > be > >> a step back for Mercedes, or at the very least contain some very > expensive > >> components that fail in a time frame not usual for a Benz product. > >> > >> Perhaps Jaime could get a job at Daimler as a customer liaison > executive, > >> in charge of telling them that they are ignorant to be unhappy that > their > MB > >> is spending a lot of time in the workshop and the reason the MB's of the > mid > >> 90's to late 00's are less reliable than the cars they replaced is that > this > >> is how automotive development works. "We tried to build a more > sophisticated > >> machine on a smaller budget and it just didn't work out quite the way it > was > >> supposed to but that's OK with us, we get to sell some very expensive > bits > >> to you ignorant fools." > >> > >> Hendrik > >> who is ignorant and hates some things, like machines that I can't repair > >> > >> Gary Hurst wrote: > >> > >>> can't you guys leave anything alone? he's unsubscribed already and it's > >>> been a while. wtf is wrong with you? > >>> > >>> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 9:05 AM, Hendrik & Fay >>> >wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > Not sure if I should say anything, I may be accused of being ignorant > by > the new high master of knowledge. > However being a daredevil I shall try and sneak some stupidity past > the > overlord of automotive development information, guess if he catches me > I'll > cop a beating with the workshop manual of the W140 (and that's gotta > hurt, > especially if it includes the electronic section). > > Anyway I think the gripe the ignorant so and so's have is fair enough. > The > issue being that there are a lot of MB only parts on that car that > fail > eventually and trying to find a part out of a wreck is a lottery, > considering that the part may fail again. > Automotive development is good when it is taken one step after another > but > the leap between the 126 and 140 was mighty and a bit too far. As a > side > note the W220 also suffered from reliability problems due to more > leaping. > Technology is great when it works but when it doesn't and costs a > fortune > to fix it is a pain. > I have heard stories of cars being wrecked because the accident > d
Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance and hate
Ok, I'm a nobody with less experience than most list member's pinky toes, but I won't stand people outright flaming. I don't care to know the exact nature of what was going on when I first joined the list, but it seems to be repeating itself. I don't know why. I don't care who started it, or their reasons. Are not we all above this? Does everything now devolve to people acting like rabid dogs? I joined this list to learn, not to get my inbox accosted with vitriolic hate. One would think that people who take pride in owning or working on a Benz would be better suited at turning the other cheek and acting congenial to their fellow man, especially during this season. Walt On Dec 19, 2010 12:49 AM, "Gary Hurst" wrote: > you and penoff are identical cousins maybe? > > the fools have already driven jaime off the lists. what more do you want > from him? he's left. everyone here must be like you? > > > On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Hendrik & Fay wrote: > >> Yes I saw you where back and it seems back to your usual way of expressing >> yourself. >> >> I reckon I still have the right to express thoughts on this list or perhaps >> you are now in charge and only mad rants, directed at whole sections of list >> members, are allowed (ie. the haters and ignorant ones) and the hating >> ignorant ones are especially going to feel the wrath of Jabba the hutt and >> the ueber master of automotive knowledge, or has he had his dummy spit, >> grabbed his bat and joined a more intelligent MB forum, where they >> appreciate the 140 and it's gadgets and deride any MB that cost less than >> 20K to buy. >> >> Now perhaps you would be good enough to point out the rule that posts, of a >> certain age, cannot be commented upon. The original post from the master was >> on the 13th of December and unfortunately I have been busy, thus unable to >> catch up on all the posts sent by the members. >> >> There are lots of things wrong with me but I think the one you are >> referring to is the one where I am not happy for a list member to call the >> list (or some members thereof) ignorant because they declared the 140 to be >> a step back for Mercedes, or at the very least contain some very expensive >> components that fail in a time frame not usual for a Benz product. >> >> Perhaps Jaime could get a job at Daimler as a customer liaison executive, >> in charge of telling them that they are ignorant to be unhappy that their MB >> is spending a lot of time in the workshop and the reason the MB's of the mid >> 90's to late 00's are less reliable than the cars they replaced is that this >> is how automotive development works. "We tried to build a more sophisticated >> machine on a smaller budget and it just didn't work out quite the way it was >> supposed to but that's OK with us, we get to sell some very expensive bits >> to you ignorant fools." >> >> Hendrik >> who is ignorant and hates some things, like machines that I can't repair >> >> Gary Hurst wrote: >> >>> can't you guys leave anything alone? he's unsubscribed already and it's >>> been a while. wtf is wrong with you? >>> >>> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 9:05 AM, Hendrik & Fay >> >wrote: >>> >>> >>> Not sure if I should say anything, I may be accused of being ignorant by the new high master of knowledge. However being a daredevil I shall try and sneak some stupidity past the overlord of automotive development information, guess if he catches me I'll cop a beating with the workshop manual of the W140 (and that's gotta hurt, especially if it includes the electronic section). Anyway I think the gripe the ignorant so and so's have is fair enough. The issue being that there are a lot of MB only parts on that car that fail eventually and trying to find a part out of a wreck is a lottery, considering that the part may fail again. Automotive development is good when it is taken one step after another but the leap between the 126 and 140 was mighty and a bit too far. As a side note the W220 also suffered from reliability problems due to more leaping. Technology is great when it works but when it doesn't and costs a fortune to fix it is a pain. I have heard stories of cars being wrecked because the accident damaged electrical equipment that is too expensive too replace, or damaged electrical lines which in turn damaged the various computers that are in a car. Hendrik who is hiding from the grand high overlord master of all things Mercedes Jaime Kopchinski wrote: > Wow, the ignorance on this list has reached an all time high. > > You folks really haven't a clue about how automotive development > works, and why an S class is designed the way they are. Not a clue. > > Jaime > > > >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okieb
Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance and hate
you and penoff are identical cousins maybe? the fools have already driven jaime off the lists. what more do you want from him? he's left. everyone here must be like you? On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Hendrik & Fay wrote: > Yes I saw you where back and it seems back to your usual way of expressing > yourself. > > I reckon I still have the right to express thoughts on this list or perhaps > you are now in charge and only mad rants, directed at whole sections of list > members, are allowed (ie. the haters and ignorant ones) and the hating > ignorant ones are especially going to feel the wrath of Jabba the hutt and > the ueber master of automotive knowledge, or has he had his dummy spit, > grabbed his bat and joined a more intelligent MB forum, where they > appreciate the 140 and it's gadgets and deride any MB that cost less than > 20K to buy. > > Now perhaps you would be good enough to point out the rule that posts, of a > certain age, cannot be commented upon. The original post from the master was > on the 13th of December and unfortunately I have been busy, thus unable to > catch up on all the posts sent by the members. > > There are lots of things wrong with me but I think the one you are > referring to is the one where I am not happy for a list member to call the > list (or some members thereof) ignorant because they declared the 140 to be > a step back for Mercedes, or at the very least contain some very expensive > components that fail in a time frame not usual for a Benz product. > > Perhaps Jaime could get a job at Daimler as a customer liaison executive, > in charge of telling them that they are ignorant to be unhappy that their MB > is spending a lot of time in the workshop and the reason the MB's of the mid > 90's to late 00's are less reliable than the cars they replaced is that this > is how automotive development works. "We tried to build a more sophisticated > machine on a smaller budget and it just didn't work out quite the way it was > supposed to but that's OK with us, we get to sell some very expensive bits > to you ignorant fools." > > Hendrik > who is ignorant and hates some things, like machines that I can't repair > > Gary Hurst wrote: > >> can't you guys leave anything alone? he's unsubscribed already and it's >> been a while. wtf is wrong with you? >> >> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 9:05 AM, Hendrik & Fay > >wrote: >> >> >> >>> Not sure if I should say anything, I may be accused of being ignorant by >>> the new high master of knowledge. >>> However being a daredevil I shall try and sneak some stupidity past the >>> overlord of automotive development information, guess if he catches me >>> I'll >>> cop a beating with the workshop manual of the W140 (and that's gotta >>> hurt, >>> especially if it includes the electronic section). >>> >>> Anyway I think the gripe the ignorant so and so's have is fair enough. >>> The >>> issue being that there are a lot of MB only parts on that car that fail >>> eventually and trying to find a part out of a wreck is a lottery, >>> considering that the part may fail again. >>> Automotive development is good when it is taken one step after another >>> but >>> the leap between the 126 and 140 was mighty and a bit too far. As a side >>> note the W220 also suffered from reliability problems due to more >>> leaping. >>> Technology is great when it works but when it doesn't and costs a fortune >>> to fix it is a pain. >>> I have heard stories of cars being wrecked because the accident damaged >>> electrical equipment that is too expensive too replace, or damaged >>> electrical lines which in turn damaged the various computers that are in >>> a >>> car. >>> >>> Hendrik >>> who is hiding from the grand high overlord master of all things Mercedes >>> >>> Jaime Kopchinski wrote: >>> >>> >>> Wow, the ignorance on this list has reached an all time high. You folks really haven't a clue about how automotive development works, and why an S class is designed the way they are. Not a clue. Jaime >>> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance and hate
Yes I saw you where back and it seems back to your usual way of expressing yourself. I reckon I still have the right to express thoughts on this list or perhaps you are now in charge and only mad rants, directed at whole sections of list members, are allowed (ie. the haters and ignorant ones) and the hating ignorant ones are especially going to feel the wrath of Jabba the hutt and the ueber master of automotive knowledge, or has he had his dummy spit, grabbed his bat and joined a more intelligent MB forum, where they appreciate the 140 and it's gadgets and deride any MB that cost less than 20K to buy. Now perhaps you would be good enough to point out the rule that posts, of a certain age, cannot be commented upon. The original post from the master was on the 13th of December and unfortunately I have been busy, thus unable to catch up on all the posts sent by the members. There are lots of things wrong with me but I think the one you are referring to is the one where I am not happy for a list member to call the list (or some members thereof) ignorant because they declared the 140 to be a step back for Mercedes, or at the very least contain some very expensive components that fail in a time frame not usual for a Benz product. Perhaps Jaime could get a job at Daimler as a customer liaison executive, in charge of telling them that they are ignorant to be unhappy that their MB is spending a lot of time in the workshop and the reason the MB's of the mid 90's to late 00's are less reliable than the cars they replaced is that this is how automotive development works. "We tried to build a more sophisticated machine on a smaller budget and it just didn't work out quite the way it was supposed to but that's OK with us, we get to sell some very expensive bits to you ignorant fools." Hendrik who is ignorant and hates some things, like machines that I can't repair Gary Hurst wrote: can't you guys leave anything alone? he's unsubscribed already and it's been a while. wtf is wrong with you? On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 9:05 AM, Hendrik & Fay wrote: Not sure if I should say anything, I may be accused of being ignorant by the new high master of knowledge. However being a daredevil I shall try and sneak some stupidity past the overlord of automotive development information, guess if he catches me I'll cop a beating with the workshop manual of the W140 (and that's gotta hurt, especially if it includes the electronic section). Anyway I think the gripe the ignorant so and so's have is fair enough. The issue being that there are a lot of MB only parts on that car that fail eventually and trying to find a part out of a wreck is a lottery, considering that the part may fail again. Automotive development is good when it is taken one step after another but the leap between the 126 and 140 was mighty and a bit too far. As a side note the W220 also suffered from reliability problems due to more leaping. Technology is great when it works but when it doesn't and costs a fortune to fix it is a pain. I have heard stories of cars being wrecked because the accident damaged electrical equipment that is too expensive too replace, or damaged electrical lines which in turn damaged the various computers that are in a car. Hendrik who is hiding from the grand high overlord master of all things Mercedes Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Wow, the ignorance on this list has reached an all time high. You folks really haven't a clue about how automotive development works, and why an S class is designed the way they are. Not a clue. Jaime ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RUF
Sounds like I may be going on an unfulfilled quest. Where would one find pieces like that now a days? Manfred Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 21:15:27 -0500 From: E M To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] RUF Will do Manfred. Fellow around here had one, or the body kit and wheels on a 123 wagon years ago. I thought it looked great. Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance
That is another great thought from down under!I love the spirit of OZ. It is so like what used to be called the American spirit! One of the fatal signs of PD (programmers' disease) is the utter inability of those infected to see how useless all the added feature creep is. While PD used to be confined to very pale kids (20 to 30 years old) who live in their parents basement and only consume pizza slid under the door and highly caffinated soda rolled under the door, confirmed cases have been present in automotive and consumer electronics employees in the past two decades. If left unchecked, PD is likely to reach international epidemic proportions within 10 years. While previously geographically confined primarily to Redmond, WA, and the SanJose, CA area, severe epidemics are now places like Stuttgart, and Munich in Germany, the entire country of Japan, and sweeping over all of Asia, including the Korean peninsula, and threatening the Indian subcontinent. Personally, I consider my labelling by the High Master of Knowledge to be a badge of honor. All of us have previously benefited from his posts when employed by Becker. Since his arrival and coronation at MumBUSA, he seems to have fallen out of touch with the rest of us poor souls left behind who are not provided with shiny new S cars (and their maintenance costs) by MumBUSA. Dieselhead proud owner of an MB older than the High Master of Knowledge, and a whole bunch of MBs scorned on by MumBUSA Not sure if I should say anything, I may be accused of being ignorant by the new high master of knowledge. However being a daredevil I shall try and sneak some stupidity past the overlord of automotive development information, guess if he catches me I'll cop a beating with the workshop manual of the W140 (and that's gotta hurt, especially if it includes the electronic section). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tire decision time: 195/65!
Too early to tell but it seems that with the correct size tire on my 300TE, the tires are not wearing on the insides as much as they did with wrong size tires, which I think where 205/60. Which means they are wider and thus not really suitable unless the front end is aligned. Handling wise i would not know because I never take the car anywhere near it's limit. MB designed the suspension to be used with a certain size tire and I see no reason to think that they do not know what they are doing, when it comes to suspensions. Hendrik who finally got a chance to catch up on list mail Max Dillon wrote: I wonder how much of that difference was due to the size (195/65 vs. 205/60)? Seems intuitive that the 205/60 would have better grip dry than a 195/65, all else being equal, but I suspect that there can be wide variation from batch to batch of tires from the same maker. However, even though purchasing tires seems like taking a chance no matter how much research one does, I'll bet the quality across the board is far higher now that it was decades ago (similar to improvements in motor oils). -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance
can't you guys leave anything alone? he's unsubscribed already and it's been a while. wtf is wrong with you? On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 9:05 AM, Hendrik & Fay wrote: > Not sure if I should say anything, I may be accused of being ignorant by > the new high master of knowledge. > However being a daredevil I shall try and sneak some stupidity past the > overlord of automotive development information, guess if he catches me I'll > cop a beating with the workshop manual of the W140 (and that's gotta hurt, > especially if it includes the electronic section). > > Anyway I think the gripe the ignorant so and so's have is fair enough. The > issue being that there are a lot of MB only parts on that car that fail > eventually and trying to find a part out of a wreck is a lottery, > considering that the part may fail again. > Automotive development is good when it is taken one step after another but > the leap between the 126 and 140 was mighty and a bit too far. As a side > note the W220 also suffered from reliability problems due to more leaping. > Technology is great when it works but when it doesn't and costs a fortune > to fix it is a pain. > I have heard stories of cars being wrecked because the accident damaged > electrical equipment that is too expensive too replace, or damaged > electrical lines which in turn damaged the various computers that are in a > car. > > Hendrik > who is hiding from the grand high overlord master of all things Mercedes > > Jaime Kopchinski wrote: > >> Wow, the ignorance on this list has reached an all time high. >> >> You folks really haven't a clue about how automotive development >> works, and why an S class is designed the way they are. Not a clue. >> >> Jaime >> >> >> On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Peter Frederick >> wrote: >> Piss poor design by children who were totally starry-eyed over >> electronics. >> >> >>> Also suffered from stupid stuff like dual pane argon filled windows that >>> cost $1000 to replace when your neighbor's idiot child threw a rock over >>> the >>> fence, $300 window motors that had to be programmed to work, and it goes >>> on >>> and on. >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance
Not sure if I should say anything, I may be accused of being ignorant by the new high master of knowledge. However being a daredevil I shall try and sneak some stupidity past the overlord of automotive development information, guess if he catches me I'll cop a beating with the workshop manual of the W140 (and that's gotta hurt, especially if it includes the electronic section). Anyway I think the gripe the ignorant so and so's have is fair enough. The issue being that there are a lot of MB only parts on that car that fail eventually and trying to find a part out of a wreck is a lottery, considering that the part may fail again. Automotive development is good when it is taken one step after another but the leap between the 126 and 140 was mighty and a bit too far. As a side note the W220 also suffered from reliability problems due to more leaping. Technology is great when it works but when it doesn't and costs a fortune to fix it is a pain. I have heard stories of cars being wrecked because the accident damaged electrical equipment that is too expensive too replace, or damaged electrical lines which in turn damaged the various computers that are in a car. Hendrik who is hiding from the grand high overlord master of all things Mercedes Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Wow, the ignorance on this list has reached an all time high. You folks really haven't a clue about how automotive development works, and why an S class is designed the way they are. Not a clue. Jaime On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: Piss poor design by children who were totally starry-eyed over electronics. Also suffered from stupid stuff like dual pane argon filled windows that cost $1000 to replace when your neighbor's idiot child threw a rock over the fence, $300 window motors that had to be programmed to work, and it goes on and on. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Windshield Wiper W124
I think anti squeal brake paste can be used, otherwise ATF is good for lubricating everything. Hendrik with lots of lubricants Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I was thinking more like ATF, wheel bearing grease would be way too think. On 12/16/2010 10:48 AM, Allan Streib wrote: Wheel bearing grease is pretty thick. What about synthetic motor oil or ATF? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Where is everyone?
> > WILTON wrote: > > Often they'd say > > something like, "Wish I had a job like yours - out here > > doing yard chores in mid-week, etc." My reply was usually > > something like this, "Well, I just got off of a week on > > alert (confined to base with the airplane, etc.) this > > morning." Or, "Well I flew all night last night and night > > before last, 'gonna leave at 3:00 AM tonight and fly all day > > tomorrow, etc." > Mitch Haley wrote: > > They wish they were home and not at work during the time they > are home to see that you are home and not at work Almost. They wish they were home and not playing hooky from work during the time they see you are home and not at work. I got comments like that on the pretty, sunny days when I did outside camera service work. Nobody seemed to remember that on those windy, raining, snowing days... -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?
HaHaHa. My Dad never keeps a car longer than about three years, almost like our Donald. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 1:53 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth? Max, that is your DAD's car! If you don't adopt it you will forever be kicking yourself. And your daughter is only a few years away from driving --R On 12/18/2010 1:40 PM, Max Dillon wrote: > My father is offering a 'family price' for his '72 280SEL. It is very > straight and rust free, and the interior is fresh (transplant from a > different car), but has been poorly painted in a two-tone scheme which is > now flaking off. Original color looks like ivory, some PO painted the lower > half a caramel color. So, to make the car really nice, it will need to be > sanded and painted. > > > > It has an automatic transmission, fuel injected V8, after-market AC, and > he's put a lot of time and $$ into fixing it up and is now bored with it. > He bought it in AZ a few years ago, so it is supposedly rust free, but I > have not yet seen the car. > > > > I need a third MB like I need a hole in my head, but I really like the style > of this car. SWMBO also thinks it is a beauty, but she is also leery of > taking on another "project". I'm thinking that an $80 roller-paint job > would be in order, nice little summer project to keep me off the streets. > > > > Very respectfully, > /s/ > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '87 300TD 332k miles > > '95 E300 277k miles > > '73 Balboa 20 > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Where is everyone?
--R wrote: > OOPS My O My Yah, well... That link made me search more of Old Grey Whistle Test, which made me watch Mark Knopfler Sultans of Swing, and then another live version of same that is a wonderful 10 minute jam - wonderful stuff. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2nQZPC2uTs&feature=fvw Enjoy. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Thank Our Soldiers at Christmas
Please consider the following: Thanks! Subject: Fw: Xerox is doing it again this year. Send a thank you card to the troops!!! --- XEROX IS DOING SOMETHING COOL (hit Control and Click the link) If you go to this web site, www.LetsSayThanks.com you can pick out a thank you card and Xerox will print it and it will be sent to a soldier that is currently serving in Iraq . You can't pick out who gets it, but it will go to a member of the armed services. How AMAZING it would be if we could get everyone we know to send one!!!It is FREE and it only takes a second. Wouldn't it be wonderful if the soldiers received a bunch of these?Whether you are for or against the war, our soldiers over there need to know we are behind them. This takes just 10 seconds and it's a wonderful way to say thank you.Please take the time and please take the time to pass it on for others to do. We can never say enough thank you's. Thanks for taking to time to support our military! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Where is everyone?
No, 'have never flown "for a living," except USAF. I'm also a civil engineer; after retirement from AF, I restored several old houses, including 2 Victorian mansions on National Register of Historic Places and did private, independent home inspections (mostly for buyers) for about 15 years 'til I had to quit nearly 10 years ago because of immune system/motor nerve problems (CIDP). All "employment" activities since retiring from AF 29 years ago have been "self-employment." Wilton - Original Message - From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Where is everyone? So Wilton, maybe I missed it or just forgot, after you got out did you do any flying for a living or what? WILTON wrote: Several times during my nearly 14 years in B-52's, I'd be out in the front yard cutting grass, etc., on an early or mid-afternoon in mid-week, and a neighbor or someone would come along on the street and stop to chat. Often they'd say something like, "Wish I had a job like yours - out here doing yard chores in mid-week, etc." My reply was usually something like this, "Well, I just got off of a week on alert (confined to base with the airplane, etc.) this morning." Or, "Well I flew all night last night and night before last, 'gonna leave at 3:00 AM tonight and fly all day tomorrow, etc." Wilton - Original Message - From: "Rick Knoble" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Where is everyone? I have worked shift work on and off for 33 years. I have worked midnights for the last eight years.Everyone I work with, my self included, is anti-social in general. Not real people persons so to speak.I can't figure out if the sleep schedule makes folks ornery (it does) or if anti-social people are drawn to midnights.My guess is both Rick Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 10:47:07 -0700 From: azbob...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Where is everyone? ya know, having worked shift work for 30 years and after having interfaced with shift workers for all that time, I haven't been to many Holiday parties over the years..interesting. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Where is everyone?
So Wilton, maybe I missed it or just forgot, after you got out did you do any flying for a living or what? WILTON wrote: Several times during my nearly 14 years in B-52's, I'd be out in the front yard cutting grass, etc., on an early or mid-afternoon in mid-week, and a neighbor or someone would come along on the street and stop to chat. Often they'd say something like, "Wish I had a job like yours - out here doing yard chores in mid-week, etc." My reply was usually something like this, "Well, I just got off of a week on alert (confined to base with the airplane, etc.) this morning." Or, "Well I flew all night last night and night before last, 'gonna leave at 3:00 AM tonight and fly all day tomorrow, etc." Wilton - Original Message - From: "Rick Knoble" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Where is everyone? I have worked shift work on and off for 33 years. I have worked midnights for the last eight years.Everyone I work with, my self included, is anti-social in general. Not real people persons so to speak.I can't figure out if the sleep schedule makes folks ornery (it does) or if anti-social people are drawn to midnights.My guess is both Rick Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 10:47:07 -0700 From: azbob...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Where is everyone? ya know, having worked shift work for 30 years and after having interfaced with shift workers for all that time, I haven't been to many Holiday parties over the years..interesting. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bottom gear
> ...Anybody watching Top Gear America? It sucks... > > I've wasted two hours on it and am done. Cancellation will be soon, no doubt. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Where is everyone?
Yep. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 3:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Where is everyone? WILTON wrote: Several times during my nearly 14 years in B-52's, I'd be out in the front yard cutting grass, etc., on an early or mid-afternoon in mid-week, and a neighbor or someone would come along on the street and stop to chat. Often they'd say something like, "Wish I had a job like yours - out here doing yard chores in mid-week, etc." My reply was usually something like this, "Well, I just got off of a week on alert (confined to base with the airplane, etc.) this morning." Or, "Well I flew all night last night and night before last, 'gonna leave at 3:00 AM tonight and fly all day tomorrow, etc." They wish they were home and not at work during the time they are home to see that you are home and not at work Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Where is everyone?
WILTON wrote: Several times during my nearly 14 years in B-52's, I'd be out in the front yard cutting grass, etc., on an early or mid-afternoon in mid-week, and a neighbor or someone would come along on the street and stop to chat. Often they'd say something like, "Wish I had a job like yours - out here doing yard chores in mid-week, etc." My reply was usually something like this, "Well, I just got off of a week on alert (confined to base with the airplane, etc.) this morning." Or, "Well I flew all night last night and night before last, 'gonna leave at 3:00 AM tonight and fly all day tomorrow, etc." They wish they were home and not at work during the time they are home to see that you are home and not at work Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Where is everyone?
Several times during my nearly 14 years in B-52's, I'd be out in the front yard cutting grass, etc., on an early or mid-afternoon in mid-week, and a neighbor or someone would come along on the street and stop to chat. Often they'd say something like, "Wish I had a job like yours - out here doing yard chores in mid-week, etc." My reply was usually something like this, "Well, I just got off of a week on alert (confined to base with the airplane, etc.) this morning." Or, "Well I flew all night last night and night before last, 'gonna leave at 3:00 AM tonight and fly all day tomorrow, etc." Wilton - Original Message - From: "Rick Knoble" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Where is everyone? I have worked shift work on and off for 33 years. I have worked midnights for the last eight years.Everyone I work with, my self included, is anti-social in general. Not real people persons so to speak.I can't figure out if the sleep schedule makes folks ornery (it does) or if anti-social people are drawn to midnights.My guess is both Rick Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 10:47:07 -0700 From: azbob...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Where is everyone? ya know, having worked shift work for 30 years and after having interfaced with shift workers for all that time, I haven't been to many Holiday parties over the years..interesting. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Where is everyone?
I have worked shift work on and off for 33 years. I have worked midnights for the last eight years.Everyone I work with, my self included, is anti-social in general. Not real people persons so to speak.I can't figure out if the sleep schedule makes folks ornery (it does) or if anti-social people are drawn to midnights.My guess is both Rick > Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 10:47:07 -0700 > From: azbob...@gmail.com > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Where is everyone? > > ya know, having worked shift work for 30 years and after having interfaced > with shift workers for all that time, I haven't been to many Holiday parties > over the years..interesting. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?
Too. --R On 12/18/2010 2:00 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: Max, that is your DAD's car! If you don't adopt it you will forever be kicking yourself. And your daughter is only a few years away from driving How few, 12? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fwd: 300TDT 1987 Mercedes Wagon Diesel - $750 (Northfield)
603 anyone?
Not mine etc.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
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300TDT 1987 Mercedes Wagon Diesel
Date: 2010-12-08, 4:26PM
1987 Mercedes 300TDT Wagon with 6 cyl turbo diesel engine - Good parts
car, engine/trans run great. Was running well, but front suspension
spring broke (while parked!), and is not drivable now. Body is in fair
shape with some rust. Interior in fair shape. 'Champagne' exterior, red
interior. Has waste vegetable oil conversion installed. $750.00 or best
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[MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes 1979 300TD - $900 (Fernandina Beach)
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Mercedes 1979 300TD
Date: 2010-12-16, 5:31PM
This car is a classic Mercedes 300TD with a diesel engine and can be ran
off of vegetable oil!
It has all the original paperwork for anything that has ever been done
to it; really taken care of!!
I moved out of the country for a year and it sat at my parents house. It
started right up and I replaced the alternator, back tires, battery,
oil, and fuel filters. As the diesel filtered through the lines some
sludge from it sitting has clogged the tank and I don't have the time or
knowledge to clean it out. I am getting a new car from a relative and
would like to sell this car as fast as possible. Great project &
everything is original in the car except the radio!! Seats are in
excellent condition , but there is no carpet.
FOR QUESTIONS PLEASE CALL ANYTIME 904 753 0924
I am asking $900.00 and I am also open to any offers!!
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Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?
Rich Thomas wrote: Max, that is your DAD's car! If you don't adopt it you will forever be kicking yourself. And your daughter is only a few years away from driving How few, 12? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?
Max, that is your DAD's car! If you don't adopt it you will forever be kicking yourself. And your daughter is only a few years away from driving --R On 12/18/2010 1:40 PM, Max Dillon wrote: My father is offering a 'family price' for his '72 280SEL. It is very straight and rust free, and the interior is fresh (transplant from a different car), but has been poorly painted in a two-tone scheme which is now flaking off. Original color looks like ivory, some PO painted the lower half a caramel color. So, to make the car really nice, it will need to be sanded and painted. It has an automatic transmission, fuel injected V8, after-market AC, and he's put a lot of time and $$ into fixing it up and is now bored with it. He bought it in AZ a few years ago, so it is supposedly rust free, but I have not yet seen the car. I need a third MB like I need a hole in my head, but I really like the style of this car. SWMBO also thinks it is a beauty, but she is also leery of taking on another "project". I'm thinking that an $80 roller-paint job would be in order, nice little summer project to keep me off the streets. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD 332k miles '95 E300 277k miles '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?
My father is offering a 'family price' for his '72 280SEL. It is very straight and rust free, and the interior is fresh (transplant from a different car), but has been poorly painted in a two-tone scheme which is now flaking off. Original color looks like ivory, some PO painted the lower half a caramel color. So, to make the car really nice, it will need to be sanded and painted. It has an automatic transmission, fuel injected V8, after-market AC, and he's put a lot of time and $$ into fixing it up and is now bored with it. He bought it in AZ a few years ago, so it is supposedly rust free, but I have not yet seen the car. I need a third MB like I need a hole in my head, but I really like the style of this car. SWMBO also thinks it is a beauty, but she is also leery of taking on another "project". I'm thinking that an $80 roller-paint job would be in order, nice little summer project to keep me off the streets. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD 332k miles '95 E300 277k miles '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Where is everyone?
OOPS My O My http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dq6fCOGyVJg&feature=player_embedded --R On 12/18/2010 1:23 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Oh my my! --R On 12/18/2010 12:28 PM, Mountain Man wrote: LarryT wrote: I haven’t rec’d a MBZ message since yesterday – VERY off for ya’ll to be so quiet -- Well, let's try to change that... Captain Beefheart died. http://www.spinner.com/2010/12/17/captain-beefheart-dies/ mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Where is everyone?
And we thank you for that, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Bob Rentfro" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Where is everyone? and thank you for that, Wilton. I simply made electricity for 18 out of the last 30 Christmas' Bob R On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 11:30 AM, WILTON wrote: 'Reminds me: I spent MANY a holiday and weekend on alert ready at a moment's notice to takeoff and deliver nuclear weapons to targets in USSR. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Peter Frederick" > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Where is everyone? Probably saved you 10 lbs in belly fat, too. Funny how shift work ALWAYS seems to have you working evenings during party season, eh? Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Where is everyone?
and thank you for that, Wilton. I simply made electricity for 18 out of the last 30 Christmas' Bob R On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 11:30 AM, WILTON wrote: > 'Reminds me: I spent MANY a holiday and weekend on alert ready at a > moment's notice to takeoff and deliver nuclear weapons to targets in USSR. > > Wilton > > - Original Message - From: "Peter Frederick" > > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 1:01 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Where is everyone? > > > Probably saved you 10 lbs in belly fat, too. >> >> Funny how shift work ALWAYS seems to have you working evenings during >> party season, eh? >> >> Peter >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Where is everyone?
'Reminds me: I spent MANY a holiday and weekend on alert ready at a moment's notice to takeoff and deliver nuclear weapons to targets in USSR. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Peter Frederick" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Where is everyone? Probably saved you 10 lbs in belly fat, too. Funny how shift work ALWAYS seems to have you working evenings during party season, eh? Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Where is everyone?
Have fresh box from Rusty - will be installing new bits for rest of the day... -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Where is everyone?
Oh my my! --R On 12/18/2010 12:28 PM, Mountain Man wrote: LarryT wrote: I haven’t rec’d a MBZ message since yesterday – VERY off for ya’ll to be so quiet -- Well, let's try to change that... Captain Beefheart died. http://www.spinner.com/2010/12/17/captain-beefheart-dies/ mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Where is everyone?
Probably saved you 10 lbs in belly fat, too. Funny how shift work ALWAYS seems to have you working evenings during party season, eh? Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Where is everyone?
ya know, having worked shift work for 30 years and after having interfaced with shift workers for all that time, I haven't been to many Holiday parties over the years..interesting. Bob R On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Peter Frederick wrote: > shoveling snow now that I'm not gorging at holiday parities (burp) > > Peter > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Where is everyone?
shoveling snow now that I'm not gorging at holiday parities (burp) Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Where is everyone?
LarryT wrote: > I haven’t rec’d a MBZ message since yesterday – VERY off for ya’ll to be so > quiet -- Well, let's try to change that... Captain Beefheart died. http://www.spinner.com/2010/12/17/captain-beefheart-dies/ mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] very very preliminary feeler: anyone wish to buy my 83 240D?
Dan wrote: > The day will probably come when I return to the fold, so to speak. My only > regret is the the Finny or long wheelbase 126 that I have always desired will > be that more difficult to find > Get real! It ain't gonna happen, and you *will* make yourself a mental case if you keep dreaming like this. Admit it - you are an old man now, and you will never grab that 5' torque wrench ever again. That is therapy, now use it and get better. Me? - my son fixes cars each day and he does my work... by the book. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] American Top Gear
I found Top Gear on Netflix and watched a couple of episodes (season 12, looks like 13 is not on streaming yet) last night. They can say some dirty words on Brit TV that they can't say here, and make allusions to things verboten. Quite entertaining. I watched them on the laptop, gotta get one of those boxes you can hook to the TV and watch them directly on the rabbit ears. --R On 12/17/2010 8:53 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Anybody watching Top Gear America? It sucks... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] sun shade inop
I'm having both the motor mounts and the sun shade motor replaced under my extended warranty. My indy guy determined it was the motor and his lovely daughter did the phone calling to ensure both the motor mounts and the motor for the sun shade are covered. He straight up told me take it to the dealer for the sun shade repair because they are a royal PITA to mess with. Bob R On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 6:16 PM, wrote: > > ...The motor failed on my rear sun shade with the shade in the up > > position. > > Does anyone know how to get it down until I feel like getting the motor > > repaired/replaced?.. > > > Are you sure it's the motor? When the sunshade quit in my C320, I found the > fault to be in the scissors lifting mechanism. It's been a long time and > the car is long gone but I think I spotted something off the track which I > decided not to touch but asked for a warranty replaceemnt which the dealer > did. > > I think I could have fixed it bit felt that it would just fail again, > likely after the warranty was gone. > > RLE > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Where is everyone?
I haven’t rec’d a MBZ message since yesterday – VERY off for ya’ll to be so quiet -- LarryT 91 300D -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/png Size: 1130 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20101218/8c2f5049/attachment.png> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] very very preliminary feeler: anyone wish to buy my 83 240D?
Brian, Your are reaching a point in your life where priorities are changing - no need to apologize. I had a similar epiphany about 6 years ago when I returned to school to complete my second degree. The reality of the situation was such that I simply did not have the time or resources to continue tinkering with my MBs. While I don't regret the change, I do appreciate not being a slave to a car or cars that need regular maintenance and repairs. I did enjoy my cars and working on them, it's just that the situation forced a change in priorities, just as yours is. The day will probably come when I return to the fold, so to speak. My only regret is the the Finny or long wheelbase 126 that I have always desired will be that more difficult to find Dan Sent from my iPod On Dec 18, 2010, at 3:28 AM, Zoltan Finks wrote: Jim, all, Thanks for the encouraging words. I haven't checked back since I sent my post. Busy time. But I'd like to make more clear the reason I would entertain selling the 240. It's most definitely not that I think that we need more room. My wife and I have long scoffed at the notion that folks have to run out and buy a minivan or suv when they have a kid. The reason is that I have shown myself that I don't make time to work on cars. That's why my '68 Coronet is in the care of my brother in AZ. He loves to work on cars. Since the clutch acted up on the 240, it has sat in the garage. Weekends are full of house and yard projects and relaxation. And with the child coming, I figured I may struggle to make time for my beloved Doberman, much less working on a car. Don't worry, my dog will continue to get exercise, love and stimulation. And after getting back on the list, I feel some encouragement to get out there and try to diagnose the 240's problem. Maybe. Thanks, Brian On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 5:50 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: Congrats on the coming baby! I say keep the car. We did. One child and three 107 SL's. He still fits fine in any car we want to drive. Two would also fit fine in one of those. Why sell in advance? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] very very preliminary feeler: anyone wish to buy my 83 240D?
Jim, all, Thanks for the encouraging words. I haven't checked back since I sent my post. Busy time. But I'd like to make more clear the reason I would entertain selling the 240. It's most definitely not that I think that we need more room. My wife and I have long scoffed at the notion that folks have to run out and buy a minivan or suv when they have a kid. The reason is that I have shown myself that I don't make time to work on cars. That's why my '68 Coronet is in the care of my brother in AZ. He loves to work on cars. Since the clutch acted up on the 240, it has sat in the garage. Weekends are full of house and yard projects and relaxation. And with the child coming, I figured I may struggle to make time for my beloved Doberman, much less working on a car. Don't worry, my dog will continue to get exercise, love and stimulation. And after getting back on the list, I feel some encouragement to get out there and try to diagnose the 240's problem. Maybe. Thanks, Brian On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 5:50 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: > Congrats on the coming baby! I say keep the car. >> > > We did. One child and three 107 SL's. He still fits > fine in any car we want to drive. Two would also fit > fine in one of those. Why sell in advance? > > -- Jim > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
